1 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,960 What is crackoacing fellow thermonuclear a everts. I am Damn Falley. Let me 2 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,079 at you out, my co host grant you once again. This week we 3 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,399 have our mega NBA trade deadline grimers starting to roll out, where we will 4 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:33,479 cover every team in depth as possible. The West, the Eastern Conference excuse 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,079 me, will be going live on Friday, so please check it out. 6 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:39,479 I wanted to tackle some news and rumors, though some of which we might 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,600 not get to immediately. Some of these are teams in the East, so 8 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:45,520 yes, we might talk about them. Otherwise, some of the news items 9 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,399 just don't pertain to the trade deadline. So I wanted to go through react 10 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:52,359 to some of these rumors, some of the stuff that's being bandied about. 11 00:00:52,359 --> 00:00:55,640 We'll see if anything breaks. As I'm recording this in the middle day on 12 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,640 Thursday, so I got one of my phones right here, and if anything 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,039 pops up, we will we will rap about it. So I put together 14 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:07,599 a list, and let's start with the Cleveland Cavaliers who have been balling amid 15 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:14,400 injuries. Even the Darius Garland out, Evan Mobley out, Donovan Mitchell missed 16 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,280 some time as well. They were chugging along, and you have to credit 17 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,599 Jared Allen for just playing like an absolute behemoth, and it reinforces if you 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,480 also need to credit you know, Craig Porter Junior has been filling good minutes 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,400 for them. You have to credit the minute they've been getting from the small 20 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,120 ball furs. Sam Merrill has been an absolute delight on most nights to watch. 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,560 He's also you know, if you watch watch him, that dude really 22 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,319 competes defensively, and so he's not always going to be great at it. 23 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:44,359 But this is not like some sieve necessarily, and so I think that makes 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,640 the cabs a little bit more interesting. Isaaca Corro's had some really good stretches 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,879 for them this year as well. They are in the market for a three 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,799 and D wing according to mark Stein, I believe it was. And that's 27 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:57,879 where this report though, comes from mark Stein, which is the focus of 28 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:01,319 this cavalier stuff, so marks down at his substack. Sources said the Miami 29 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:07,400 Heat continue to have a bona fide interest in Donovan Mitchell despite Cleveland's don't even 30 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:13,039 call us approach, and they could well choose to test that resolve with Mitchell 31 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,159 proposals after Miami's trade pursuits of Bradley Beal and Damian Loward over the summer ended 32 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:21,719 with neither player landing in South Beach. That's a mouthful, So basically, 33 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:24,360 the Heat are still interested that Mitchell. Stein also notes that the Knicks and 34 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:30,560 the Nets continue to be mentioned as well, but that multiple executives from rival 35 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,199 front offices have described Miami as a prime team to watch for Mitchell fit wise, 36 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,080 So take everything with a grain of salt when you're hearing it from rival 37 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:46,919 from an office executives mentioning other teams where Okay, it's clear that this is 38 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,280 not necessarily coming from inside the house and when this always could be. This 39 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:54,639 could even be just Miami talking as well. And look, on some level, 40 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,560 it probably is that they're going to be interested in Player X, the 41 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:01,599 Calves. I do believe we probably telegraph. Don't even call us approach because 42 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:06,360 you don't give up the package for Mitchell that you did just to short circuit 43 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,159 the entire thing less than two seasons into it. I'm sorry, the injuries 44 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:15,719 you think that could change their timeline? Okay, sure, unless Mitchell actually 45 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,000 asks for out, I just don't think this is a discussion. And in 46 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,000 the event it actually gets to that, it's going to be an off season 47 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:25,960 thing. I don't even think his trade demand would come now inside one month 48 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,120 to the trade that and we've seen more shocking things, and this is certainly 49 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:31,879 something to watch if the Cavs get the sense that, hey, he's not 50 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,439 gonna stick around. But the reason you gave up so much to get him 51 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,639 is because he had the three guaranteed years left on his contract before he can 52 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,439 reach free agency, and you see out two of those. If you find 53 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:46,240 out that Mobley and Garland for some reason are done, look, I get 54 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,879 it, and it comes down to the same thing with what we've seen from 55 00:03:47,919 --> 00:03:54,560 Cleveland. This stretch is basically reinforced that they are better off finding bigs that 56 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:59,639 can stretch the floor alongside Mobi or Alan rather than having the two of them. 57 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Yeah, certain matchups, it will work, and they're going to be 58 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:06,680 hell fired defensively, but the offense, the ball is going to be less 59 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,000 sticky. When those two aren't on the court. You're going to see just 60 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:14,560 better flour rounch in general. And to be fair, we haven't given enough 61 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:18,759 time for that dynamic to marinate. Alongside Mitchell and Strus and Garland just not 62 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:23,879 having that sample size. That is something that Cavs have to look at, 63 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,439 and that would be more of an offseason thing as well. For all these 64 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,199 teams. I've seen some people mention that Chared Awn as a trade target. 65 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:32,519 I just don't know how you reasonably trade him right now with the way he's 66 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,879 playing, Evan Mobley being out, So there's that element of it. When 67 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,319 it comes to Miami and Mitchell, I would agree though that they make the 68 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,000 most sense from a fit perspective, and even as a trade partner right now, 69 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,920 I still don't love the idea of Donovan Mitchell in New York with Jalen 70 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,920 Brunton. I think you would need someone if you're going to go that small 71 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:57,680 who's just going to give you more defensive juice. And if they're that small 72 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,800 in the first place, they're probably not giving you a ton defensive juice, 73 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,680 or if they are, they're not giving you enough on on the offensive end. 74 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:05,879 Brooklyn would be semi interesting, but I have no idea where the nets 75 00:05:05,879 --> 00:05:09,800 are going. They're kind of just spinning their wheels right now. Where if 76 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,000 you did go into a consolidation trade, I understand the incentive you have to 77 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:17,920 do that, giving your your draft obligations moving forward. That would just be 78 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,319 weird. And there are other teams that could come into the mix, but 79 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,439 it does seem like Miami and one of the New York squads would be on 80 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:29,279 Mitchell's list. Again if he asks for out, Miami becomes interesting over the 81 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:30,839 offseason, I think because you would be able to put a bunch of picks 82 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:35,079 and swaps on the table. I doubt you're getting Jimi hawkez in it, 83 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,439 but if you could, I mean you absolutely should. He's he's been one 84 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:43,279 of the best, one of the three best rookies this year. And they 85 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:47,319 also this isn't a destination where in theory, if you're getting rid of Mitchell, 86 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:50,480 Tyler Hero could work. I don't know that you want to see a 87 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:55,959 ton of him and Darius Garland playing together, but if you wanted to stagger 88 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,160 them, bring Hero off the bench, you are losing the Donovan Mitchell shot 89 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:03,879 creation element, and so Tyler Hero could make sense there, Whereas Utah kind 90 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:06,839 of beginning of rebuild, they were going to be guard heavy anyway, that 91 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,800 didn't make a ton of sense. Portland Dido having Scoot Henderson Affry Simon's Cleveland 92 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,000 would be different again if and when we get to that point, I just 93 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,560 don't think we're there, and I definitely don't think the Cavs should be there 94 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:24,879 unless something changes on Mitchell's end on the Detroit Pistons. Caid Cunningham it will 95 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,240 be out for at least seven to ten days with a left knee strain, 96 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,680 which he suffered during Sunday's loss to the Denver Nuggets, So we've at least 97 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,480 already passed a few days worth of that timeline. I will say. Prior 98 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:41,879 to his injury, Caid was like balling pretty consistently. He was averaging about 99 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:46,319 twenty five points and eight assists on fifty nine plus true shooting, which is 100 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,000 on the cusp of league average when you're just looking at basically, it was 101 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,040 basically like the end of November through through now, the start of December through 102 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,120 now, and so to be at fifty nine true shooting that's on the cusp 103 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,279 of league average. His turnover rate also went from was at thirteen point seven 104 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:05,759 percent on twenty nine point four usage during this stretch. That's compared to sixteen 105 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,480 point eight turnover rate on thirty one point three percent usage before that, and 106 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:15,160 a fifty point three true shooting percentage. So until November thirtieth, I believe 107 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:17,959 was how I was. How I had split it up. He had a 108 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:25,879 fifty point nine true shooting and that shot up to almost sixty, closer to 109 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:30,360 sixty towards the end of November November thirty if, Yeah, so I confirmed 110 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:31,800 that. That's a pretty long stretch. We're talking a month and a half 111 00:07:31,879 --> 00:07:34,680 ish to be at. That's a big deal because if he's going to be 112 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,160 efficient, he was making better decisions on his drives, his threes weren't falling 113 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:43,759 it necessarily consistent clip, but he had some red like some hot games from 114 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,680 beyond the arc, and he was shooting. And he's at least shooting almost 115 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,600 thirty eight percent on his wide open opportunities again during this stretch. Overall, 116 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:54,000 big loss for the Pistons, but it's it's better that it's not serious. 117 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,199 Speaking of it not being serious, luckily, Tyres Haliburton will be had at 118 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,199 least two weeks with a Grade one strain in his left hamstring. He suffered 119 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,120 it in Monday's win over Boston. The Pacers are relieved it wasn't worse. 120 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,079 Anyone who was watching is relieved it wasn't worse. It looked pretty bad when 121 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:13,639 he slipped and kind of did a split on the floor in the restricted area, 122 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,920 and the team reaction was just that was terrifying as well. I don't 123 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,839 think this shouldn't have unless there's a setback and he winds up missing like three 124 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,959 or four weeks is it, you know, sort of panic mode here, 125 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:28,560 You're not there yet. I do wonder if this impacts his All Star starting 126 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:35,080 candidacy at all. The fan vote element of it I think will help him 127 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,080 there, like just people have noticed him. We'll see what happens with the 128 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,639 players. I do think media unless he winds up missing like the like is 129 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,879 out until the All Star break, I still think that this shouldn't have any 130 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,559 bearing on where he ends up in that All Star pecking order, which is 131 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,600 good because you want players in there who deserve it. He deserves it right 132 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:54,080 now in the games in Indiana, and so you want to see him. 133 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,840 It will be interesting to see how the Pacers fair here. Their offense is 134 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,840 that he tread water for the most part with some of their lineups when Halley's 135 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:05,559 on the bench, but they're just getting blasted overall by like almost nine points 136 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,159 per one hundred possesions when he's on the court, I would expect to see 137 00:09:09,159 --> 00:09:11,080 more of Benedick Mathern, who, by the way, this is not you 138 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,759 know anyone who's listened. We're not the highest on Benanic Mathern. He's been 139 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:18,879 playing really well for like, I don't know, since the start of December. 140 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:24,159 It feels like basically he's been slashing over this long stretch fifty four percent 141 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,000 from two forty three percent on threes and eighty five percent at the foul line. 142 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,720 He looks more even keeled. There are still gonna just be times like, 143 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:33,840 well, why can't he pass more? Where's the defensive consistency? But 144 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,080 you're just getting to a point where it feels like he's a more regularly reliable 145 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,080 contributor, which is a big deal for this team, especially with Hallie out. 146 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,879 The big question here, and this leads into another rumor, is would 147 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:50,639 this change the Pacers trade deadline approach at all? Grant I could get into 148 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:54,919 that. I don't think that halliburton injury changes anything. Woj did say though, 149 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,600 that the Pacers are determined not to give up Jaris Walker and a Siakam 150 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,720 deal, and I'm just like at this point, So whatre you like one 151 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,080 pick and expiring salaries then, or are you trying to sell you know, 152 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:11,639 Obi Toppin as just like the primary asseid in that deal. I can't envision 153 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:15,720 a scenario, especially given that Toronto wants back actual players. It seems where 154 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:22,559 the Pacers trade for Siakam and they don't give up Jaris Walker or Benedic Matherin. 155 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,799 And I don't think there's a need for Bennanick Maathine in Toronto right now. 156 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:28,679 Maybe you'd want some of the shock creation if Siakam does leave there, 157 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,039 and if let's just say, you don't put Jarvis Walker on the table. 158 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,080 And I know that he is Caitlin Cooper had posted some stuff about him, 159 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,080 and I know he's shown some flashes in the G League. But if you're 160 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,000 not giving him up, so then what do you not want to give up 161 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,000 your first round picks at all? Like you, I would imagine that Pascal 162 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,519 Siakam is going to take a minimum of the equivalent of three first round picks 163 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,799 to get I know that they technically got less for og that might be the 164 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,519 eye of the holder. Detroit's Pick's going to be number thirty one, thirty 165 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:58,879 two whatever, and then you got a manual quickly that's like close to two 166 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:03,080 first round picks right there combined. And then depending on how you view RJ. 167 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Barrett and so, are you just trading away your entire future draft with 168 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:09,000 swaps that might appeal to Toronto enough even though it's not actual players to say, 169 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,519 Okay, hey, we'll do this. At the same time, the 170 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,440 Pacers aren't a type of team that mortgages the future to that degree, so 171 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,399 that feels very much like posturing. If they're interested in Siakam, it will 172 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,759 cost them one of their their blue chip youngsters that's not Tarrey's Haliburton would be, 173 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:26,759 would be my guest, And I do believe the Pacers. I've come 174 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:31,759 more around on this. Everyone who listens knows that I'm more of the They 175 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:35,159 need to skew three four here. Siakam cannot slide up to the three. 176 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,600 He could slide down to the five, though, and so that might make 177 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,200 it easier to give up a a jail On Smith and trade like another big 178 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,919 in addition to Jarris Walker. I mean, and just I think the Pacers 179 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,480 you want that extra shot creator who won't torpedo your defense or is more bankable 180 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,360 on defense, and the fit with Miles Turner's just super clean. Maybe your 181 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,399 rebounding is not necessarily where you want it to be, but I think between 182 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,320 Siakam and Turner and then you're gonna get from your your guards in Halliburton, 183 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:07,519 if Bruce Brown is crashing out there, that's going to be enough. I 184 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,120 would just be very interested in seeing, you know, Siakam translates well into 185 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,440 how fast the Pacers want to play. He can attack an open space in 186 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,320 the half court and its three ball has been falling for like a month now, 187 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,519 basically. So I'm this is to say I'm more coming around on the 188 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,519 Siakam deal. This is all to say you don't give up real value if 189 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:28,440 you don't think he's going to stay. And we know that Siakam has We'll 190 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,320 get into that in a little bit. Some of his own preferred destinations here 191 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:37,720 the Golden State Warriors, there's just a bunch of rumors floating around out there. 192 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,639 They don't want to trade Kaminga, They're willing to trade Wiggins. The 193 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,799 report today from Sham's with everybody not named Steph Curry is touchable. So Steph 194 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,159 Curry is the only untouchable. I don't think Sham's used touchable. I use 195 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,519 the word touchable. That's how we should say. Everyone on this roster is 196 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:58,639 touchable, with the exception of Steph Curry. Also, following their really bad 197 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,000 loss to the Pelicans on Wednesday, Steve Kerr said he thinks this team has 198 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,919 quote lost its spirit, confidence and belief, all right, and then Steph 199 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,480 Curry this was big to me. Was as so this wasn't unprompted. But 200 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,679 Steph Curry on whether the Warriors need to show the front office by the trade 201 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,279 deadline that this group should stay together, he said, it's pretty evident that 202 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,399 if things stay the same, that's the definition of insanity, right, do 203 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:26,080 the same thing and expect the same result. I'm assuming he meant different results 204 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,600 or that he was misquoted there. That's like, honestly good for Steph. 205 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:33,519 I saw people were kind of clowning him, saying, oh, you live 206 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,960 long enough. He turned into Lebron James fucked that. Like, this is 207 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,759 not someone who has complained or telegraphed that he needs to get rid of people. 208 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,240 There's definitely been some sort of undercurrents or like he's not not shade, 209 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:50,720 but like He's definitely called out without calling out certain teammates or players or mentalities 210 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:56,159 before, but never this forcefully, And like that's just different from saying that 211 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,480 this team needs We haven't had really a Steph moment where he said we have 212 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:03,039 to make changes at the trade deadline, even when he's asked. And good 213 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,679 for fucking him, because you're in the end of your window. No matter 214 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,919 how you feel about him, You look gassed towards the end of some of 215 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,159 these games. The load your shouldering is just absolutely mind blowing. You have 216 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,600 a dude in Draymond Green who can't even stay on the floor, not because 217 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,360 he can't play, but because he can't control his in game emotions at points. 218 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Good for Steph. Honestly, I just don't know. I've gone through 219 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,559 it. I actually like the idea of de Jante Murray in Golden State. 220 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:31,840 I've just there's just like no fix here though. That makes me feel a 221 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,960 lot better about this team. Whereas even if you slop Pascal Siakam onto them 222 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,399 and that could you know the package that they give up to get him, 223 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:43,559 depending on what that is, you'll feel different about the roster. But it's 224 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,559 they're already kind of deep and what they really need is just the viable number 225 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:52,440 two guy. It feels like the clear second best player who's actually not gonna 226 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,759 get you know, suspended or ejected every other night, and that Siakam does 227 00:14:56,759 --> 00:15:00,919 fit that bill to an extent. But if you're going to play him with 228 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,559 Draymond, since I assumed Raymond wouldn't be part of that deal, you need 229 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:05,960 to then surround them with enough shooting because that's what that's why you could play 230 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Draymond Kaman Looney, who has not been great this year by the way, 231 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:16,279 together is that you just always had the thermonuclear af shooting of Klay Thompson and 232 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Steph Curry that is still there to some extent. Clay's been playing better of 233 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:22,919 late, but like you still need to make sure that the rest of your 234 00:15:22,039 --> 00:15:26,399 non core lineups are then going to have enough shooting on the floor. And 235 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:31,279 I guess between like if you went Steph, POD's, Clay, Draymond and 236 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,799 Siakam, like that is a lineup that would intrigue me. What is you 237 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:39,279 know, I'm assuming the Raptors would want CP three salary in a deal even 238 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:43,519 more. And we're gonna get to more about Shams shams Cham's it's not Shamsiakam 239 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:48,120 and the Raptors in a minute, But like, is Wiggans going out as 240 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:50,919 part of the salary? Is that a possibility or if he's not, then 241 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,200 you're still bringing him off the bench. And could that get what happens with 242 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:58,320 Johnathan Kaminga. Is he going out in that deal with the Raptors insist on 243 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,279 his inclusion or you building this thing around Moody, who, by the way, 244 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,320 I think the world of Moody and I would love a team to just 245 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:07,840 free him at this point and give him a ton of ton of minutes. 246 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,679 But are you building it then around Moody and picks and salary? You need 247 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:14,240 to see what the roster looks like afterwards. And look, the Warriors are 248 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,720 deep. They've gotten good minutes from Pods, They've gotten great minutes from TJD. 249 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,559 Dario Sharitch has been one of the like maybe the single best minimum signing 250 00:16:21,879 --> 00:16:23,120 in the business. I don't want to say that blanket statement. I haven't 251 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,480 really considered it. I know we have others balling out in certain places. 252 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,120 It's like you feel good about points of their depth, especially if they can 253 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:34,440 get a little healthier what's going on with GP two. At the same time, 254 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,279 it's I put Siakam on this team, and even relative to the projected 255 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:44,840 cost of like player like rotational costs of getting him there, I don't know 256 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,679 if I feel much different with the word like. It feels like the player 257 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:52,679 they need or who could transform this franchise is either not available or they actually 258 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,960 need to make the tough call of well, it's really more about do we 259 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,360 move off of Clay's expiring contract? Do we look at moving Draymond? If 260 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:02,919 it feels like and this is how I'll frame it, that they need to 261 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:07,359 get rid of two of Andrew Wiggins, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson, And 262 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,119 that's just a very awkward spot to be And like the meaningful ocker, maybe 263 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,319 I'm wrong, Maybe Siaka would come in and do it. I would make 264 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,759 the move if he's available, but the Warriors' core absolutely needs to change. 265 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:22,039 I don't want to be a hypocrite though, and pretend like I to just 266 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:25,759 say it for them to do something without having a solution. And I don't 267 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:27,839 have a solution because even the best case scenarios, you know, I think 268 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,880 that they should really look into can they get like a DeAndre Hunter who's a 269 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,160 more reliable shooter, but he doesn't pass a rebound, kind of like Kaminga 270 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,960 and Andrew Wiggins, but is more reliable shooter than those two. You can 271 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,519 build the deal around Chris Paul's salary to get there. Maybe a couple first, 272 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,279 along with Moses Moody. I proposed one first because I think Hunters probably 273 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:49,359 on a net value contract, but a net negative contract. Hawk's fans weren't 274 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,720 thrilled about that one, though I get it. I mean, reasonable minds 275 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,720 can disagree. Some of them were asking me for me to be fired, 276 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,400 which feels like that goes touch too far. But what are you gonna do? 277 00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:00,359 That's the nature of fake trades. They could get some like that. 278 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,799 I think the balance is out there roster pretty well. You need to do 279 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,640 it, you need to do it, and it's just like, are they 280 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,440 gonna do it? I think this front office is definitely less married to keeping 281 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,039 the court together. I mean, how could they not be, But like, 282 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:18,480 I just don't know that any move out there. If it was if 283 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:21,440 you told me they acquired a Larry market In or Michale Bridges, I'd probably 284 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,119 feel a lot differently. That's not to say those players are better than Siakam 285 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,400 because they're not. The fit for both of them is just cleaner. I 286 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,119 just don't think you have the equity to get which is the primary issue. 287 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,799 So if you can get Siakam, go out and get him. If it's 288 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:37,279 not him, I do like the idea of Dejontay Murray, can you get 289 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:41,960 someone else? I know in Discord Ruby sca really wanted vote down. Bogdanovic 290 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,079 makes sense on this roster, not if you're keeping Clay and then you also 291 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:48,240 have pods. To me, just that's my personal opinion. The extra shot 292 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:52,839 creation would would be great. Can you insulate them enough defensively to where you 293 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,079 play Dejonte, Clay, Bogdanovich and Steph at once and then with Raymond at 294 00:18:57,079 --> 00:19:00,400 the five. I just don't know if that provide enough. If you can 295 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,799 get him, he's an upgrade over what you have, But it adds to 296 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,519 the move needs to be consolidatory in nature. It can't be the Warriors go 297 00:19:08,599 --> 00:19:14,680 and get like two guys to add to disprotation that's already kind of a smattering 298 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:18,799 of depth. We're gonna jump ahead of the Grizzlies since it's about It's. 299 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,359 Well, there's two news items for the Grizzlies, one of which is breaking 300 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,880 and it's another injury run per Sham's Memphis Grizzlies guard Mark It's Smart has sustained 301 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,920 a severe right finger injury and we'll be silined for approximately six weeks. Another 302 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,680 difficult injury blow in the season for the Grizzlies. Yeah, and I would 303 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,960 think that takes him off the trade market and so far as he was ever 304 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,640 on there does sort of further their tank the Grizzlies also, and that's a 305 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,599 blow. Smart has not been good. We had the discord member Austin was 306 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:48,279 saying he was he's basically dat more expensive Davion Mitchell. That just goes too 307 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:51,480 far. He is still like a more dynamic offensive player at his peak. 308 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,240 He's on a new team, hasn't enough time necessarily to familiarize himself with the 309 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,799 players, including John Morant here. I still think Marcus smartest valuable. I 310 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:00,359 still think the Grizzlies are for paid to get him, and you probably resently 311 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,599 you definitely can't move now that he's injured. You're never gonna match his value 312 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:07,880 per return. They also, though, did sign Vince Williams to a three 313 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,720 year, guaranteed seven and a half million dollars seven point three million dollar contract. 314 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,640 There's a team option on year four. They need to wave back be 315 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,480 Amble to do it. I would look for Biamble to maybe wind up back 316 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:22,799 there though after the trade deadline, maybe when they've sort of consolidated some of 317 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:26,799 their own roster spots, assuming they they do anything about that. I do 318 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,839 really like Vince Williams. He's six' four. I said this in discord. 319 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,799 Join our discord if you haven't already, plays like he's six' eight. 320 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,680 There's been some peaks and valleys to his three point stroke, but he's 321 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,279 at roughly thirty eight percent on spot up threes for the season. That is 322 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:42,039 more than high enough when you're looking at the grizzlies other wing options, and 323 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,599 then just his defensive assignments. This is someone who when he's on the court, 324 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:51,880 he will guard the opponent's best player basically, irrespective of how big those 325 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,480 players are. And if you're hearing Barhey in the background, my dogs are 326 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,119 mad. They think I'm not giving Vincent Williams enough of his flowers. Apparently 327 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,480 like that could be lugad rons. It could be Kevin Durant, It could 328 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,640 be Tyris Halliburton, it could be Kyrie Irving. He's gonna defend those dudes. 329 00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:07,000 That's fucking cool. Good for him. Could end up being a great 330 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,960 deal for the Grizzlies. Bummer about the Marcus Smart injury, just a just 331 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,759 another footnote on what is becoming a lost season for them. Their draft pick. 332 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,799 We'll see where it ends up. I would say the only teams that 333 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:21,400 are guaranteed to have a worse record than them right now, I go san 334 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,359 Antonio and Detroit and Washington are the only teams. And san Antonio could catch 335 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,839 fire just they do with some talent, but they've they've not caught fire just 336 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:37,400 yet. On the La Clippers front, Kawhi Leonard per Woe Jenscham's signed a 337 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,720 three year, one hundred fifty three million dollar extension that includes a fifteen percent 338 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:45,400 trade kicker. The projections on his starting salary are weird. They say fifty 339 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,640 two million. That's higher than his actual max. And so it seems to 340 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:55,240 just expect the current salary cap is going to increase by ten percent next year, 341 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:56,920 which is the most it can increase in any given season. We've been 342 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,799 working with a number. What is the number I have in our little salary 343 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:03,160 sheet here, I've been working with one hundred and forty two million dollars. 344 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:07,200 This is clear, and that would put Kawi's max at about forty nine point 345 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,119 seven. This seems to intimate that the max is going to be higher. 346 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,039 That might be or the excuse me, the salary cap is going to spike 347 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:17,839 by ten percent, or just typical agents speak where they're trying to frame the 348 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,279 deal in the best life for their clients. Would you also know that Paul 349 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,720 George extension talks are ongoing and that this kind of set the floor for what 350 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:29,759 they would have to give him. What I find interesting is in Brian to 351 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:33,599 Porrek from bleacher Port, friend of the podcast and co worker Brian to Porak, 352 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,400 who also writes at Liberty Ballers and hosts the NBA pod. He also 353 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,079 writes at Forbes follow him, had said something about does this make it less 354 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,640 likely verging on impossible, that George and Harden get longer deals than this, 355 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:51,559 Because what's notable here is that Kawhi in Net probably took a winds up, 356 00:22:51,599 --> 00:22:56,759 taking a little too a lot less or not substantially less, but he takes 357 00:22:56,839 --> 00:22:59,200 could be up to more than ten million dollars, less than what his actual 358 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,559 max ends up would end up being. But he also didn't get a player 359 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:06,319 option, and there's only three years tacked on to this one. As part 360 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,119 of the new CBA rules, they were able to work it so that he 361 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,920 declines his player option. He's having three three years tacked on to it. 362 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:15,640 That's not four and it could have been four. And so does that mean 363 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,400 that Paul George has no shot at getting four? That James Harden can't even 364 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,039 get a four year deal and he hits free agency. That benefits the Clippers 365 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,720 just looking at what their window is is that you don't have to commit to 366 00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:29,480 what is gonna fast become an agent corp for too long. I'm just curious 367 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,640 whether it impacts those extension talks at all. What is also interesting here is 368 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,279 that the Clippers have basically said, and this was always gonna be the case, 369 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:41,079 but they've reiterated, fuck it again, We're going to be a second 370 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:44,640 Apron team for the foreseeable future. That really makes them an interesting team at 371 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,640 the trade deadline. They've been the best team in the league, or one 372 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,079 of the two or three best teams the league basically since the start of December, 373 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,079 and so you can look at them and say, well, now the 374 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,079 Terrence Man doesn't miss a three in twenty twenty four, do we really need 375 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,599 anything you want to talk about us? Oh, the fact that PJ. 376 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,640 Tucker's not playing and whould be put in this big spot. While Vita Zubox 377 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,599 looks like someone who needs to play thirty plus minutes a game, I would 378 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,559 still say that I would like to see them get another It doesn't need to 379 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:11,839 be a wing, but like a body that can slot in it. The 380 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,599 four maybe also play some small ball five. That's a pretty tall order. 381 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,480 At the same time, because of where they're at now with just the second 382 00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:22,519 apron, they're not going to be able to combine aggregate salaries soon, and 383 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:26,960 so do you take advantage of that opportunity now? And what if you were 384 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,680 willing to put the twenty thirty first round pick on the table, who and 385 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,519 what does that get you? I mean, they can get to a twenty 386 00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:38,200 million dollar player pretty easily, and they could shoot their sites higher than that. 387 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:42,119 If they're willing to maybe talk about Terrence Man, who should not be 388 00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:45,680 untouchable. I'm not giving up Terrence Man to get a Dorian Hinnie Smith, 389 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,079 a Kelly on Lineika, any of those sort of names. But if you're 390 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,880 kind of looking at a deal that could get you, you wouldn't even need 391 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,519 to do this. Does that twenty thirty pick, if the Hawks are really 392 00:24:55,519 --> 00:25:00,720 willing to blow it up, get you DeAndre Hunter or Yekakungu? You could 393 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,839 reasonably get to that if you were willing to do Man in your twenty thirty 394 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,400 pick? Does that get you plus other salary? Does that get you Jeremy 395 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Grant? Does that go a bridge too far? I would love Jeremy Grant 396 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,319 on this team. He could play from some small ball four you need to 397 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,759 trust on everybody else to small ball five. Excuse me, you need to 398 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,960 really trust on everybody else to rebound. But he's an extra layer of creation. 399 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Just you look at the way that he can attack in the half court, 400 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,759 mostly some straight line stuff, even when he's attacking from like the forty 401 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,119 five angles, but like he still has kind of the speed in the dexterity 402 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,720 to do some things with the ball. In addition is being one of the 403 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:37,720 more liable off ball players, and then that's giving you just more defensive insulation 404 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,480 in certain of your lineups where it's like you if you played Paul George Kawhi, 405 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,039 Leonard Jeremy Grant, excuse me, and then just you're able to play 406 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,119 so Harden's in there, there's your four main combination and then yeah, Zubox 407 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,720 works in there. Could you also get away with minutes if you want to 408 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:55,880 russell Westbrook in that scenario and downsize with Grant at the five, you could 409 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,240 have Man on the court. I like that setup. I just I don't 410 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:00,599 like the idea of giving up Man. And so it's just like if you 411 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,920 wanted another I don't know if I Yaka Kungu really is fits the bill of 412 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,640 the small ball big for them. He's not going to stretch the floor. 413 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,680 He would be like he's going to be better, like his zubats is great 414 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,680 foot speed on the defensive end, and he's a really good rim protector. 415 00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:18,640 Oh, Kungou would give you some more switchability juice there if you wanted that 416 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:22,440 for the playoffs. You could also just shoot your sites lower at this point 417 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,039 and it's like, well, could we get Dorian Phinney Smith? And I 418 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,480 mean nik Klas would definitely cost you the twenty thirty pick, but Dornyan Phiney 419 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,960 Smith would be a good fit on this team. I don't know if you 420 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:36,599 want to get him to small ball five options. I mentioned Kelly Olynock again, 421 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,079 you could match the salaries pretty easy and does it. It shouldn't take 422 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,680 that first round pick to get him unless you're also, well, do we 423 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,640 want something else someone else? Excuse me from Utah. I don't think anyone, 424 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,000 even if you're combining them Jordan Clarkson and Kelly Olinic doesn't do that for 425 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,519 me for the first round pick. My point really is, though, is 426 00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:53,240 the Clippers, and they always were there at least a team to watch at 427 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,160 the trade deadline. They're so good right now that it's tough to envision them 428 00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:00,279 even getting Jeremy Grant. Let's you him as an example. Does it feel 429 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:06,440 like overkill just because it's well, we have our big three. Russ just 430 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,799 like he's been and look, Russ will have his knights where he's just absolutely 431 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,839 terrible, and then he's gonna have his nights, especially when he plays the 432 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,200 Suns where he's really locked in defensively. The pace he can added this team 433 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,559 and the way he's accepted a smaller role has been great for the Clippers overall. 434 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:22,319 I know he might not have been the best soldier so to speak with 435 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,200 the Lakers. Maybe we'll never know the full story there, but I've been 436 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:29,599 really impressed with his demeanor on the Clippers and at times his play. But 437 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,359 like having all of these guys and then if you're gonna keep man, is 438 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,960 it just well, do we really need to aim and with how well Zubots 439 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,839 have been playing, we really need to aim our sites that high? Maybe 440 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,119 you don't. I would just note that it's gonna get so much harder if 441 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,119 you ever wanted to make a substantial trade and not be flipping one of your 442 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,839 star players to use that twenty thirty pick then and so maybe it's just perhaps 443 00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:53,559 the idea of, well, we're gonna use that pick in a smaller salary 444 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:57,240 to get someone who would be cheaper anyway, like a Jaylen Johnson in this 445 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,920 year of his contract. That would That's my dream yet for so many teams, 446 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,240 because I just want to see him freed from Atlanta. But he's been 447 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:10,039 playing, he's been in Atlanta. The Lakers very quickly Darvin Ham's job is 448 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,000 not in jeopardy. He received a text of voted confidence from Jeanie buss Stein 449 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,279 also reiterated that he should be safe for now. The Lakers have won two 450 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,480 straight games. I just I don't know if you changed the coach, how 451 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:26,079 much better off they are. I haven't been a fan of Darvin ham signing 452 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,440 injuries as much, just because, Yeah, the Lakers have dealt with a 453 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,599 bunch of absences and Gabe Vincent's excuse me, that void is huge. He 454 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,480 he was someone that I thought maybe could close for them when they signed him. 455 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:40,839 I get that element of it. A lot of teams are dealing with 456 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920 injuries, and it's not like you're dealing with superstar injuries. Anthony Davis and 457 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,119 Lebron James have battled some stuff, but they buy in large been available, 458 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,880 and so that has rubbed me the wrong way. And some of the lineups 459 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,920 just don't make a ton of sense, and like the way he deprioritizes spacing 460 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,440 at points, it rubs you the wrong way. I just I'm just not 461 00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:00,680 someone who technically calls. It takes a lot for me to call for a 462 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,160 coach's job, and I wasn't there with him anyway, and I would still 463 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,440 be fairly it wouldn't shock me but fairly surprised if he gets bounced before the 464 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:12,680 end of this season. The Knicks were denied a disabled player exception for Mitchell 465 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,119 Robinson, who underwent underwent and left ankle surgery that means he could return this 466 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,680 season. I will say this felt like these things are normally just granted. 467 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,640 I guess it's encouraging that the NBA's determined we don't know if he'll be out 468 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,880 through June, like that's basically the criteria here. I just don't I can't 469 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,440 imagine helped that when Tom Dibdeau was talking about it, he stuck to the 470 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,279 eight to ten week timeline. Was just like, oh, well, you 471 00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:38,799 know, you can ask Leon Rose if he's gonna be out for this season. 472 00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:41,480 Leon Rose has fucking talked to the media at number one, and that 473 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:47,599 just kind of undermined the whole disabled player exception application in itself. So I 474 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,559 found that a little funny. Does the Knicks's recent play impact their trade deadline 475 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:53,319 approach it all, especially if they know Mitch's coming back, That'll be a 476 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:59,000 big question. Hartenstein's been bawling. I think the the implications that they need 477 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:03,519 another ball handler creator and I would agree, but Duce McBride's giving you some 478 00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,759 good minutes. Did it with Quentin Grimes. The ball is just moving incredibly 479 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,000 crisply in New York's half court right now. I don't know if that's an 480 00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:14,559 extension of because og Anoby is in the Capslock Creator, and there's that incentive 481 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,440 for RJ. Barrett, so like he's gonna put the ball on the floor 482 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,200 a little bit more. We've seen what RJ. Barrett can do in Toronto, 483 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,839 We've seen it owns to New York. He wasn't just like this hopeless 484 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:29,119 ball stopper for long stretches and entire games or possessions at a time. So 485 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,200 I watched the offense since they've gotten o'gannaobi, there's a lot over the past 486 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,799 few games. I found myself thinking, with the way that Dante DiVincenzo and 487 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,400 Josh Harder kind of filling the gaps here, and if Duce McBride and grihyme' 488 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,640 is gonna give you reroalw minutes, why go out and get certainly like, 489 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,640 do you even need a Brocton? Do you even need a de Jontay Murray? 490 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,079 He still kind of intrigues me just by rolling some of your assets into 491 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,559 Murray is a singular asset and then making another move later. I find myself 492 00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:56,720 not wanting to mess with this Knicks team, but I also think I'm in 493 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,440 the honeymoon phase of watching them with OG and that come playoff time, you 494 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,519 want the third guy who can generate his own shot aside from Randall and bruns 495 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:08,279 In, especially when one Brunton is small and two given Julius Randall's playoff track 496 00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,799 record. Still great news overall that Mitchell Robinson might be coming back because the 497 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:18,599 Knicks, just in terms of not having star power, they might have between 498 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Robinson and Hartenstein the most capable forty eight minute center rotationally. I mean, 499 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640 there's Jared Allen and Evan Mobley for sure, and then anytman. Minnesota has 500 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,720 Karl Anthony Towns and Rudy Colbert and Nasriez, but they're up there. And 501 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,160 so I've been really impressed with Hart's play. He's been great defensively, and 502 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,079 he's a little more dynamic on a little more DNA. He's a lot more 503 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,680 dynamic on offense than Mitch Eric's Boelstra per. Both Boje and John signed an 504 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,160 eight year, one hundred and twenty million dollars extension with the Heat. It's 505 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,160 the most guaranteed money per WJES for a head coach in North American sports history. 506 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,200 This is supposed sixteenth season at the Helm. He's made six NBA finals, 507 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,880 won two titles. I still am just amazed he's never won Coach of 508 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,759 the Year. Will that change this season? Good for him? Easy decision 509 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:01,440 if you or the Heat. We're seeing coaching salaries go up. He is 510 00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:05,440 technically the second highest paid coach in the league on a per year basis, 511 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,440 behind Greg Popovich. Just as guaranteed money is wild. I mean, these 512 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,279 are coaches made more than some players, but like eight years in one twenty, 513 00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:15,400 now of a sudden, you know that your coach is going to be 514 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,039 making more per year than a you know, a PJ. Tucker, like 515 00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,400 to mid level. That's like this is an average of we're talking like was 516 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:29,319 it fifteen million dollars a year? And so that's like that's more than the 517 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,279 mid level, the non tax players mid level in the NBA. That's a 518 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:35,359 pretty pretty big deal. So it's like, yeah, fifteen million dollars a 519 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,279 year, which is right now about two and a half million dollars more than 520 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:42,440 the mid level good for coaches, and I think Spoe particularly is just a 521 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,960 genius and I won't I will. He just knows how to pull these different 522 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880 levers. Even this year, the Heat are six games above five hundred, 523 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,759 despite Jim hawk Is leading the team in total minutes and neither Bam nor Jinny 524 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:59,000 Jinny that's my mother in law's name, Jimmy ranking inside the top three. 525 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,880 Plus you've had Martin being banged up for most of the year, and your 526 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,000 top three in total minutes are Duncan Robinson and Kyle Lowry. And just the 527 00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:08,039 way that the Heat they cycle through these guys that they'll find in the G 528 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,359 League or just on Earth off the scrap heap, and then even just the 529 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,519 renaissance of Duncan Robinson and the way that they've been able to deploy him since 530 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,599 the playoffs. To me, Spoe isn't just the best coach in the NBA. 531 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,000 He's the best coach in the NBA. And it's by a sizable margin 532 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,359 at this point. I'm interested to see. I think a lot of it's 533 00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:28,359 going to depend on record. And you have Chris Finch in Minnesota, you 534 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:34,319 have Jamal Mosley in Orlando as good candidates. You have Mark Dagnold in Oklahoma 535 00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,400 City. There's always a lot of deserving candidates for Coach of the Year depending 536 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,599 on where the he finished. They'll be interesting to see how much love he 537 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,039 gets. This is absolutely someone who if he never wins a Coach of the 538 00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:47,279 Year awards, that's mind blowing to me. The Sixers Joelle Embiid missed the 539 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,759 game on Wednesday with swelling in his left knee. He's now missed six of 540 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,119 eight due to various injuries and been absent in nine of Phillies thirty six games. 541 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,599 That puts him on pace for under sixty five appearances. Just something to 542 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,279 monitor because we know how much he wants to win a second MVP award. 543 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,519 The priority needs to be just making sure he's whole for the playoff push. 544 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:09,440 I have continued and the Zach Low had mentioned this, I believe on his 545 00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:14,000 podcast and at the point where I'd like to see Philly do more than hold 546 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,159 serve and see what their cap space gets them in free agency, I'd like 547 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,599 to see them do something at the deadline. I don't hate the idea of 548 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,679 de Jante Murray there either, So Benny about maybe should they have gone after 549 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,960 Marcus Smart before his finger injury, that's clearly off the table. I don't 550 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,800 think they. I really don't love zach Lavine there, even though he would 551 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,079 help them. Just that money and what do you actually need to give up 552 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,559 to get him. I'd like to see them to sort of just monitor the 553 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,960 market for opportunities that that might arise. And I wish they note that I 554 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,159 wish because I don't have a rooting interest in this team. They I do 555 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,039 think their big move will need to come aforem in a wing that maybe has 556 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,159 some ball skills surprise, surprise, A lot of teams need that. Orgian 557 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,840 Nobe would have been perfect even though he doesn't have a ton of ball skills. 558 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,599 He can he can do some stuff in open space. If mckal bridges 559 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:04,920 became available, the Philly's just not going to have the best package based off 560 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,079 the picks that they can move. And we know Max he's not going to 561 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,559 be on the table, and so I can't pretend to sit here and say, 562 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:12,639 oh, I know like this, this name is out there and they 563 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:17,440 shouldn't care too much about adding salary for next season. Someone like bo Don 564 00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:22,400 Magdonovich for them though, that's someone where you could still you have a salary 565 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,920 on the books for next year. It could still carve out a MAX slot 566 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:28,239 well, carrying Tyrese Max, He's cap hold, just something for them to 567 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:35,639 consider there and on the Raptors. So per Sam Amick of The Athletic, 568 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,320 this is this is not verbatim, but The Athletic reported Seakam's desire for max 569 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,880 deal is set regardless of whether he stays in Toronto past February's deadline or is 570 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,960 moved to another team. He has also reportedly expressed the fact that he's not 571 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,400 seen the Sacramento Kings as a quote long term fit. Now, I'll start 572 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960 with the King's part of this. I agree with Siakam, and I saw 573 00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:00,400 some Kings fans interpreting this as well. We've had players like Chris we come 574 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,800 here and they were happy in Sacramento. I don't think this is an issue 575 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,079 of oh, Sacramento sucks, or even that the Kings are a terrible organization. 576 00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:09,000 Now, I just don't like the sabonus Siakam fit on the offensive end, 577 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,639 and Siakam if he wants to not just retain his value but be a 578 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,840 featured option or be in the best position to succeed both individually and collectively. 579 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,960 I don't think it's with Sacramento and and Doma Simonis. I'm open to the 580 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,280 idea that it won't flop. I just think that that is such an awkward 581 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,360 dynamic and I wouldn't love it on the max contract front. What is do 582 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,320 like? I get it that there's I'm stumbling here. I wouldn't. I'm 583 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719 at the point where and this is either me I'll admit to either I was 584 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,159 wrong to say that the Raptors should have given up Siakam instead of Annobie. 585 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,639 Or is it just we're getting more information because we know what the Raptors that 586 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,039 look like, because they have another dynamic creator in the mix with Emmanuel quickly 587 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,920 and even just the minute they've been getting from from Marj Barrett. It's a 588 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,360 combination of both I was wrong and there getting more information, so we should 589 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,159 change our takes if something is off. I want to make it clear in 590 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:07,719 Toronto, where Siakam doesn't want to be there or the franchise doesn't value him 591 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,199 or doesn't want to pay him, then yet you need to move him at 592 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:15,320 the trade headline because the biggest disaster would be keeping him not extending him this 593 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,280 season and then he leaves in free agency for nothing. You just you can't 594 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,679 let that happen again, after allowing it to happen with Fred van Fleet, 595 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:28,920 after minimally capitalizing on Kyle Lowry's departure as well. And let's not to say 596 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,400 like you already lost like the whole quiet lender of stuff and like the members 597 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,960 of the championship team. Siakam, though, is an all NBA type player. 598 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,920 He's made to all NBA teams. The fact that people seemed miffed that 599 00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:44,000 he wanted his full boat max. What are we doing here? Just unless 600 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000 you just think that these top fifteen to thirty guys don't deserve maxes anymore. 601 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,519 Okay, that's one stance. Seacom's four year max, if he signs with 602 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,639 his own team, would be one hundred and ninety point eight million dollars about 603 00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:58,119 that's that's the extension he could sign with Toronto right now as well. He 604 00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:00,800 can't sign an extension for that if he goes to a new team, he 605 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,000 would have to wait until free agency. The five year max, which he 606 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,320 can only get from the Raptors or the team that trades for him, is 607 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,960 five years, two hundred and forty seven point one million. Maybe that's the 608 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,840 number that makes you uneasy. The five years takes him through his age thirty 609 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,000 four campaign. That's like, that's about right, I would say. I 610 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:20,239 mean, I think that the back end that deal could be a little rough, 611 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,239 but I would think the first three to four years of any contract he 612 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,519 signs will end up being fine. His four year max if he just leaves 613 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,559 the fret, Like if he leaves the Raptors in free agency or another team 614 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,079 in free agency, it's four years, about one hundred and eighty three point 615 00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,719 two million dollars. Those numbers could go up depending on where the salary cap 616 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:43,440 goes I'm paying SIATI. I would give Siakam a four year max and probably 617 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,400 not think too hard about it. The way that he's kind of finding his 618 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,760 spot to fill in in Toronto as they've done things differently, as they've transitioned 619 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,079 to more of Scottie Barnes and even having a manual quickly there. If you're 620 00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:57,920 the Raptors and Pascal Siaka wants to be there and you can get him the 621 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,480 fifth year stuff I get. I want to make clear I don't want Raptors 622 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:05,079 stands in my mentions saying I watch every Raptors game and this that, by 623 00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:07,599 the way, that's my least, that's a pet peeve of mine. I'm 624 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,000 op. I'm I feel like as a podcast host and content creator, I'm 625 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:15,000 very open to the fact that people who root for a team know more about 626 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,000 that team, or at least just as much about that team than I do. 627 00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:22,960 I don't need you in my mentions because I'm saying something about Team X 628 00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:25,719 and that it's not blatantly wrotch as well. Actually, like my team hasn't 629 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,000 been playing that well of late, and so this doesn't count as a good 630 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,239 victory for a team. Why that just beat Team X? I just that 631 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,039 stuff. Just my job is not to know your team as well as you. 632 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,639 My job is known the rest of the league and if you want to 633 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,280 do as good of a job as me. And I'm going off on this 634 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,679 rant here because I saw people calling out certain other people where they need to 635 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,760 get fired, and it's a lot. It happens a lot of the time 636 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,800 where yeah, there are blowhards when it comes to talking about the entire league 637 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,679 or a bunch of different sports, it's it's annoying. I get it, 638 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,440 it's frustrating as a fan. You need to the bar needs to move when 639 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,360 you're talking about when you do and I'm gonna just say it right here, 640 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,320 when you do what Grant and I do. I'm sorry that we don't know 641 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,079 about the Charlotte Hornets rotation on the second end of a back to back on 642 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:14,000 a Wednesday in January or on as keen into that. We need to know 643 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,519 a general more idea of the Raptors, the way that they're the Raptors, 644 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,159 the Hornets, the way that they're playing in addition to their cap situations, 645 00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:23,199 the direction they're headed, what individual players guys are doing. And yes, 646 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,280 we need to watch the games. We need to watch film and that is 647 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,039 what Grant and I do. If you're just going too well actually literally the 648 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:32,639 smallest points, I'm open for discussion. But if you're gonna preface it, 649 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,159 well, I watch every game. I don't fucking care, honestly, don't 650 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:38,559 fucking care. Go do what I do that and do it better. If 651 00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:44,320 you're gonna take a sception, well giving your opinion on the Excuse me as 652 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,440 I'm choking in the middle of this rant on the Washington Wizards while the other 653 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,679 twenty nine teams in the league, and be accurate in any way about what 654 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,639 you're saying and thorough So please, that's just that's gonna earn you an automatic 655 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,440 mute, or just I'm gonna ignore your comments if you start saying that. 656 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,199 Just a pet peeve of mine. So see, I get why Raptor stands 657 00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:04,920 to that point, and there have been disagreements in discord, and I respect 658 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,199 the hell of the people that think you just need to trade them because something's 659 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,199 off here. If that is the case, yes, you need to trade 660 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719 them because you can't afford to lose them. You can't afford to lose them 661 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,800 for nothing. The real I would do is the organizations. I'm looking to 662 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,039 change up the five spot. Even if you think we've seen Siakam play them 663 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:22,639 five there, what can you Yaka partls injured right now, that's the other 664 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:24,639 thing. He's going to miss some serious time at the moment, and so 665 00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:30,440 I'm fascinated to see how the Raptors wind up playing while he's on the sideline 666 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,440 with his left ankle issue and they don't even have a timeline for his return. 667 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,159 I'm not saying that they're gonna move him at this deadline. I don't 668 00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,880 know necessarily where his contract would be viewed, or how how well or favorably 669 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,119 or disfavorably or be viewed around the league, but that to me is the 670 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:49,559 more palatable path forward, especially because they've already prioritized the acquisition of players over 671 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,639 picks, and a lot of these teams that are interested in Siakam they're not 672 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719 going to have, especially if we don't want to give up jos Walker for 673 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,800 him, They're not going to have actual players that can help you now, 674 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,159 or even some of the ones that will be available Jared Walker as a as 675 00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:06,880 an example, is he going to help you now? The Warriors could probably 676 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,559 be one where it's, oh, we get a pick and then if we 677 00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:12,079 think Kaminga and Moody can help us plus salary, okay, sure, But 678 00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,719 I just if you're telling me that you can get Kaminga and Moody and a 679 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,880 Warriors for Siakam, or you can keep Siakam and then just look at moving 680 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,400 Yaka Peerle, trying to get a floor spacing big in there, or playing 681 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,840 Siakam even more at the five as time goes on, because you have Scottie 682 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,320 Barnes and you have RJ. Barrett, maybe it's oh well, let's just 683 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,239 try and get a bigger wing in there. I like that a lot better, 684 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,000 and I'll get into more of this when we do their trade deadline preview. 685 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:42,880 I just wouldn't rule out the Raptors as under the radar buyers to where 686 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,800 I think we've the ship has sailed on them trying to consolidate, especially now 687 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,320 if they don't have OG and you can't aggregate a manual quickly or r J. 688 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,400 Barrett. If they're they're not going to be in on the I mean, 689 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,800 the cost is apparently low, the market is Barren. I would still 690 00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,440 I wouldn't hate zach Leen on this team still you can. It's late the 691 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,000 hell out of him defensively, even without o Jiananobi there, I not would 692 00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,440 not be my favorite. Guess oh we exactly in the books for forty plus 693 00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:12,440 million, then Siyakham, can you just get another perimeter player or someone who's 694 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,079 gonna where you're not, someone who doesn't nudge up Siakam to the five necessarily, 695 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,079 but is going to be better in those minutes than a Yaka partle who 696 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,639 can limit your spacing as useful as Yaka Purdle is at times. That's just 697 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:29,480 my stance on the Raptors right now. The caveat is just if you if 698 00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,159 you don't want to go five years out for Siakam and that's the only way 699 00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:35,920 he's staying in Toronto, then yes, I get the hesitance. Do not 700 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,159 wait this out. Then that's when you need to move him. If it's 701 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,800 he's looking at other teams, or he's demanding the fifth year, even if 702 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,800 it's some adjusted scale of a submax. But that's also something that could happen. 703 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,880 Is okay, well we had to go out on a fifth year, 704 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,079 but maybe he gives up the player option and it's not a total max. 705 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:58,119 Maybe it's five years and two hundred and twenty million because he's guaranteeing himself a 706 00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,960 you know, more money over the longer hauld. You just save close to 707 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,840 thirty million dollars depending on where the cap winds up. I'm not saying he's 708 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,000 a perfect player. He's just he's been balling lately. There are times where 709 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,400 it feels like he is disengaged. Not that he's not invested in the game, 710 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,199 but the Raptors before the trade, after the trade, We're trying to 711 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,239 figure out their pecking order. This is an all NBA player, and you 712 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,599 don't just move an All NBA player who is more way more of an anomaly 713 00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:25,760 than og Annoby was in a vacuum. Pascal Siakam is a much much, 714 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,199 much better player than og Anobi. Og Anobi is much more scalable, and 715 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,440 so it's in the eye of the beholder. But I think I'm just I 716 00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,760 thought the Raptors need to move him instead of og for fit purposes. I'm 717 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:44,480 kind of not there anymore. He's adapted even even better to Scottie Bonds the 718 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:49,119 season has gone on, and I also just think like adding the second dynamic 719 00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,119 creer or third in a manuel quickly has just opened things up in a way 720 00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:55,119 for Toronto that it wasn't before, in a way that Dennis Shrewder was was 721 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,760 never going to, in a way that even Fred van Fleet didn't because he 722 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,679 was hitt is pull up three pointers the way that i Q can, and 723 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,280 the way that IQ gets into the lane and leverages that float or in an 724 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,960 accurate fashion and has the has like the there's the acceleration there and just has 725 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,559 like the acceleration to deceleration from him. It's just it's wiley, it's crafty, 726 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,039 and then if RJ. Barrett's gonna play like this, of course makes 727 00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,559 your job a lot easier. He's been great at finding he did this in 728 00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:24,199 New York at times. We've been great at finding pockets of space within finite 729 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,159 space of Toronto so far. So that's where I'm at with Siakam. Team 730 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,599 should be interested in him, though, and we'll get into morecam destinations on 731 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,920 the East Pod. But I'm just the Raptors are weird because they're so far 732 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,920 below five hundred that it makes you feel and they just suffer too gutting losses. 733 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,199 They you almost beat the Clippers. There's the controversial loss because the rest 734 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,159 with the Lakers the other night, I believe that was that was Tuesday. 735 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,039 I feel so much better about this team post Oljiannaobi trade, which I never 736 00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,360 thought I would say there. And yet it's just you have to look at 737 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,519 the reality of the NBA standing in standings, and it's well, they might 738 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,079 be a play and it's is that going to be enough? And so you 739 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,440 have to be cognizant of that as well. Whereas are we about to pay 740 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,039 iq Scott. He is extension eligible this summer as well. We have our 741 00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:12,159 j in the books for you know, twenty seven plus, and then we're 742 00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:15,639 gonna give Siakam forty plus million dollars a year forty five plus million dollars a 743 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,679 year over the over the long haul when it averages out, you have to 744 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,119 have that discussion. But I do think, just as I think more avenues 745 00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:27,920 are probably available to them now than they were before, the ogana will be 746 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,559 trade, which again I didn't necessarily think that that would be possible. I 747 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,920 would say for teams that should be in to wrap this up very quickly. 748 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,920 On Pascal Siakam, and I want to If I'm the Raptors, I'm not 749 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,239 trading him. That's just where if he wants to be there, I would, 750 00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:45,000 I'd stick with him. I think the Pacers should probably be super aggressive. 751 00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:49,480 I'm not opposed to the Grizzlies being ultra aggressive with their picks package and 752 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,920 saying, hey, yeah, we're gonna resign him and he'll help us this 753 00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:54,719 season and we're just gonna see how this works. I'm not I don't love 754 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,920 it, but I'm not opposed to it. I would like to just see 755 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,920 him in Golden State because I want Steph to help. Steph is one of 756 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,719 my players of favorite players of all time. Excuse me. So those are 757 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,119 the three teams. I don't hate him in Dallas, I just don't for 758 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:10,039 the Raptors, love the package that you would be getting back in return, 759 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,760 and so I think those are my three teams. Memphis is just so off 760 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,559 the wall that it would be Oh Beckles Yakam and Memphis and John Morant's not 761 00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:21,239 there, and just I would intrigue me to see him play with Jared Jackson 762 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,840 Juniors basically where I'm at there. Hopefully you enjoyed this again, come back. 763 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,159 If you're new to this, subscribe, hit the like button, turn 764 00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:32,039 notifications for YouTube, share our content. We appreciate that. Subscribe across Apple, 765 00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:36,599 Spotify, Stitch, or Google wherever you get your podcasts. Please continue 766 00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:40,760 reading leaving ratings and reviews everyone on Apple. 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But I don't send out listations on 776 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,000 Twitter. Join our discord. The links in the podcast and YouTube description. 777 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,599 The socials are in the podcast, YouTube description or on your screen, and 778 00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:20,519 I believe, I believe that's about it. I want to shout out just 779 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,440 any new listeners that we're getting. It always warms my and all the kind 780 00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:27,639 words we get. We're grateful for all your support. I appreciate every single 781 00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,159 one of you. And when we have people who hit me on the side 782 00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:31,760 to say that they do appreciate the job we do or that they like something 783 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,039 that we do, I do look at a lot of critical feedback and take 784 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,119 it to heart. I probably read too much into it at points, but 785 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,400 that's always valuable to have. I will say, though, when we get 786 00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,360 nice messages, whether it's on discord, in the comments of YouTube in my 787 00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:51,119 dms on Twitter. Finding out that there're still just new people finding this show 788 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,199 after all this years. That's what keeps Grant and Eye going. And so 789 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,760 thank you, every single one of you. And if you're a new listener, 790 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,480 if you've just found us, whether it's on Instagram, you found us 791 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,519 through TikTok or shorts or YouTube, just let me know, Just let let 792 00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:06,920 us know YouTube comments, join our discord. It's always fun to hear that. 793 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,599 Until next time, which will be very soon, And as always, 794 00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:12,639 I leave with the shout out to the one, the only, the indelible, 795 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,480 the eminently not touchable. He can't be touchable. It's not just because 796 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,119 he's injured. It's because he's the best player in the best prospect in the 797 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,280 Basin's not a finished product just yet. Frank Healer