It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven to
nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. You know, at times I've mentioned
the the situation here with Louisville just hiring a new coach a couple of weeks
ago, and calling it a circus is probably not fair. I mean,
I think the way the Louisville search played out publicly, maybe circus again isn't
a good fit as far as how to describe it. But you know,
it could have been handled a little better as far as what ended up getting
out there. But none of that'll matter if Pat Kelsey wins, and we
will find that out next season. Not to say that he's got to win
a certain amount of games next season for us to feel like he's going to
be the right guy here, but all the other stuff that you know matters
when you you know, can't coach games. Yet he's doing a phenomenal job
at On the Kentucky side, I think it is kind of a circus on
the Calipari side of it. Now with Kentucky, I don't think they're doing
anything. I mean, in fact, they've had twenty four hours essentially so
far in this search, and I don't think there's anything optically that is playing
out in a bad way, good way, whatever, But the Calipari side
of it is kind of hilarious because of the belief that he got cold feet
and the attempt to maybe kind of walk it back and see if he could
salvage his situation. And at that point, I think Kentucky was never going
to want to do that, and they didn't feel like they had to because
they feel like he violated and breached his contract because of the conversations that he
clearly had already had. I mean, let's be real, he did break
his contracts. He didn't tell Kentucky that he was going to talk to Arkansas
until I guess two days ago, and let's be honest, we all know
that at that time he already knew that he had an offer from Arkansas and
it started to get out so and then the walk and the dog thing like
that still as funny to me. And then it didn't become official until I
guess Arkansas announced it earlier today this morning. And then now he's being introduced,
he's there seeing him walking into I guess wherever they're having their press conference
later is is wild. But at seven o'clock Eastern time, he will have
his press conference and I'm probably not going to be able to listen to it
live, but I will I will. I will try to check it out
at some point, just because this, this could be this could be petty.
I mean, knowing Cal and just reading some of the quotes in his
in his interview that he did that it you know, those quotes that are
included in this article at The Athletic from Sham's Cherana and Kyle Tucker. Maybe
this is me exaggerating a little bit here as far as you know him taking
shots or whatever. But I just you know, his message yesterday where he
looks sad in his video and he talked thank the fans and whatnot. That
made me think that he probably will always be talking up Kentucky or whatever,
and you know, saying that this is the dream job. It was his
dream job, and we all know that's true. But I think you'll see
a different side of him today. I don't know if it's going to be
a huge part of the press conference, but just knowing Cal, I really
do think that, you know, he'll probably take some jabs. They'll be
maybe not he's not gonna say Mitch Barnhart is a bum. And if he
shows up in the state of Arkansas and a whoop his ass, like I
don't think we're gonna hear that, that would be great, though, wouldn't
it? That would be great wild. But in this article, just a
couple of things that he's now well aware are going to be on the record,
and he has no problem with that. Is that he regrets turning down
UCLA in twenty nineteen, and he had admitst that to people that at that
time he should have done it, but Kentucky gave him a ten year,
eighty six million dollar contract to keep him in lexingon in UCLA could not match.
You know. He also, when talking about Nil, is pretty critical
I guess of the Kentucky side of that. I'm going to try to find
this quote really quickly here. I just had it pulled up. But yeah,
so he states that Nil will be ready for him and he doesn't have
to go out and do it anymore. Quote the other this is the actual
quote from it. The other thing to change is figuring out our roster and
you have to go in now and have Nil ready, which the school will
do I don't have to go out and do it anymore. I had to
do it at Kentucky. I mean, it is pretty low of Kentucky to
expect a man to do his job. I mean, right, But again,
that's Cal being able to say that. Cal can say that, and
it is kind of like, wow, this guy. But we know this
guy, so it's not like a real shocker. He's criticizing Kentucky because you
know, there's a requirement that he would need to be a part of it.
Because let's be honest with you, If in fact, Kentucky wants to
have their best I guess success at getting people to give money for NIL,
him being the guy involved is the best way to do it. It's not
like they're asking you to do something you don't need to do. If you
know, I don't even know who, Like if Brad, If Brad Calipari
was the guy in charge of NIL and he's out there working the phones and
meeting with very wealthy people, it's not going to hit the same as if
it's calip Perry doing it like you're if you want to, if you want
to really fill up the bank account for NIL resources, you would have to
know and he does know that him being involved in that process is going to
give you the best ability to raise more money. And you know the bridge
is that he that he burned with donors. That's been talked about quite a
bit, and I think most people are referring to the Craft family and maybe
we would will eventually get some details as to what really created that rift between
the Crafts and Caliperi, but it apparently includes Oscar Sheebway and we'll see.
I mean, I'm not gonna I don't want to get sued, but if
you look it up Oscar Craft, Caliperi, just do a quick Twitter search,
you'll see what a lot of folks are alleging as to what really turned
Cal off with the Craft family and really didn't want their money and actually understand
his position if that's if that's true, But again, you can easily look
it up and you'll see what apparently has created a rift between those two.
And honestly, that's one of the big factors I would say in this thing
coming to an end. So here's what we know right now. Scott Drew
is not in Lexington. He's in Waco, but by all accounts, he's
still believed to be the guy that they are going after and pursuing. And
one of the things that doesn't get mentioned enough throughout these coaching searches is nobody
really like has a real offer to take the job unless they're going to take
the job other than Dusty May, which again like that to me, you
know, it depends on who you talk to. Louisville felt quite sure that
Dusty May was going to take the job, and he was already a done
deal. I don't believe that. I think, you know, he never
told him no, but it wasn't a situation to where it was done,
and you know, that's why it played out, I think, looking pretty
poorly for Louisville, But in the end it was a great thing because I
don't think Dusty May would have fit here at all, and he knew that.
Everybody kind of knew that, I guess, other than you know,
a few other people. But nonetheless, Scott Drew, I just have a
hard time thinking like, it's got to be him, right, Like I'm
trying to find a scenario now where it's not him, and I don't know,
I don't know what that would be because I don't know how close the
relationship is between Mitch Barnhardt and Scott Drew. But it's been well known,
and in fact, we've talked about it before when he was a candidate for
Louisville because understandably so, it would have been a weird thing knowing that Louisville
could potentially have a coach that is like best buddies with Mitch Barnhart. Now
are they actually best buddies, I don't know, but they clearly have some
level of a relationship. And Scott Drew seems like a good enough guy that
he's not going to string along his athletic He's not going to string along his
friend. So if he really just felt like, no way, I'm not
leaving Baylor, I'm not going anywhere, he would let Mitch Barnhart know that,
and he hadn't done that yet, So I think it's just a matter
of time before he is officially announced as the next head coach at Kentucky.
And there's a Baylor Baylor beat writer who covers the team closely. His name
is Kendall Kendall Caught, and he is His latest report is that he believes
they will know something by the end of the day today as far as what
Scott Drew is going to do. So I think it's done. I think
he's going to be the guy. I mean, clearly it's not done yet,
but I think it's happening and it's just a matter of time now.
And I can't imagine any any type of hiccup along the way that would keep
it from happening. And it's not because you know, they're waiting to hear
from Danny Hurley. You know Danny Hurley, he's turned into and I give
John some credit, he said this during the break early earlier. Dan Hurley
has turned into the guy that when a big job opens up, he's going
to be the guy that fans of those schools that have the opening say,
you got to make them say no. You got to make them say no,
which I understand why fans say that, But do you really have to
make them say no? Because I think sometimes they don't want your job,
but they don't want to say no because they don't even want it, like
they don't want they're you know, they appreciate the offer, but you know,
or move it on, like when you hear a coach on an interview
or in a press conference be asked about an opening I think there's so much
over analyzing what they say that you have people that convince themselves of really whatever
they want to hear. And I think his answer with Colin Cowhard earlier today,
Dan Hurley, that is, it's very much similar to whenever Scott Drew
was asked about Louisville on a radio interview and he told us no without saying
no, I'm not going to be the Louisville coach. Right. I mean
I heard that and knew, all right, this guy is not going to
say Nope, Louisville stinks some stand at Baylor, but like he's not coming
here. I think Dan Hurley said the same thing here when he talked to
Colin Cowhard earlier today. However, you know there are many Kentucky fans that
are saying, well, he still hasn't said no. I mean, does
he have to Does he have to email Mitch Barnhart? Does he have to?
Because Mitch Barnhardt only does email, by the way, so he communicates
with people. Still. I mean, like, Dan Hurley's not going to
Kentucky, and I think he's done a couple of well even though I think
what he said after you win the national championship isn't worth a whole lot given
the timing in the moment. But he's now at a couple of days and
I just, you know, I think if there was any level of interest
on his end, then then then it would be out there. And the
only thing keeping hope alive. I guess from some Kentucky people that he could
be their coach is that he hasn't direct He hasn't you know, he hasn't
actually, you know, put out a statement that says, I'm not leaving
Kentucky. I'm not leaving Yukon for Kentucky. You feel like Yukon, uh,
but you don't want schools to take advantage of that, right, You've
got a big market if you wanted to leave is would you ever have to
what happens if somebody comes up and just brings up a Brinks truck and then
you have to go to your boss and say, Okay, they gave me
a zillion dollars, I like what I make? Where are you on that?
Because Dan, for the next five years you're gonna hit fifty offers.
How do you how do you kind of reconcile with the fact that you love
where you're at but you may have somebody double what you're worth. Where are
you on that? What do you do with that? Yeah, it's flattering.
I've come a long way since being a high school coach fifteen years ago,
and uh, you know, havn't having had to kind of work my
way up the ladder and in the business as a coach the way coaches did
it, you know, back a long time ago. Uh, you know,
it's certainly flattering. But I've got a long career of turning down jobs
or more money to stay in places that uh, you know that I was
happy and that fit me and that you know, provide me the resources to
at that level achieve the things you want to achieve. And I mean right
now and U can you know my relationship with day Ben and what the place
means to us. You know, the opportunity to go for for for a
three peat right now is uh, it's it's the only thing that is obviously
on anyone's mind here. So I just can't see that being a thing.
Again, that's not a direct no, but that's that's really what a lot
of coaches say in that situation, and more often than not, they don't
leave like for so many years we heard guys at the podium or at a
radio interview say something that ended up not being actually what you know, like
not being the truth. And it's really because they're in a tough spot,
like what do you if they know they're probably going to go to a job,
but they don't really know for sure if they have the like what are
they supposed to say? Like it's really an impossible situation to be honest with
you. But how many years has it been since we heard a coach directly
like contradict himself. I think it's happened in a long time. I think
that answer you heard from Danny Hurley you must be like shared among coaches across
the country just to kind of stick to this script and you really save yourself
on both sides. But also you know, Hurley wants to make it clear
that he's he's committed to Yukon and he doesn't see himself leaving, but he
also wants more money from Yukon. He's gonna get it. I said it
earlier, halfway joking, like I think the State of Yukon may add some
some tax to their residents in the state annually to go towards paying this man
whatever he needs to stay there because that's how I mean. I have a
crush on him. John. I'm just gonna say it. I love Dan
Hurley. It's because he's He's the new We've been talking all year long about
like the old guard of elite coaches kind of making their way out. Dan
Hurley is the beginning of if there even is a next full wave, He's
the beginning of that wave. I get a sense that he's so genuine and
doesn't really I mean he's not. There's no flash there as far as like
gimmicky stuff. I mean, he's clearly animated and into it. That's just
the Hurley family, that's how they operate. But I think he's I mean,
what he did at Yukon again, That's that's what stood out to me
throughout this tournament run. Specifically, what they are doing is not something that
is going to be difficult to recreate. It's going to be difficult to go
in the national championship again because that doesn't happen very often, But the type
of team that he put together this year in the year before is not something
that is going to be impossible to do when it comes to the personnel.
It's just identifying guys that really align with your brand, right, And he
has the ability to get talented players who are built and driven on winning and
being a part of something. He couldn't do it if he had a bunch
of no stars. But he gets good players, not the elites of the
elite, and he gets some of them. But he's just a guy that
I think has never really tried to do anything other than his way. And
it didn't work early, right, it didn't work at Yukon when he first
got there. And you know he wasn't He was good at Rhode Island,
but not elite. Let's be honest. When he got the Yukon job,
that was not viewed as some oh wow, you got to go hire him.
And now he's on top of the sport. And I think it's because
it's an example of somebody that has always believed in his own formula and his
own way of going about it. And now he's at a place that has
better resources than anywhere he's ever been and he's winning at the highest level.
This was an interview that This is a clip from an interview where he talks
about recruiting, parenting, and accountability and like mad This made it to where
I'm like, Okay, you know what, I'm in love with this guy.
I mean not you know, like romantically, but I love him.
There's measurable talents you have to have, right, the height, the speed,
the skill set. But we spend a lot of time really focusing on
the parents. The parents. Yeah, on the parents. Are they are
they going to be fans while they're on campus of their son or are they
going to be are they going to be parents? Are they going to you
know, hold them accountable? I have an expectation that when something goes wrong
that it's not the coach's fault, that it's their Son's got to work harder,
he's got to do more, he's got to earn his role. We've
got a real old school culture here of accountability. I'm an old school coach
in terms of the tone I take with my players in practice, the expectations
with effort, the focus on winning, and we over me like what does
that mean? Have they played on seven different travel teams? Have they transferred
to four or five different high schools. When you talk to the parents and
the recruiting process, are they constantly complaining about the coaches after a bad game
or are they you know, sending you a text or you having a conversation,
you know, where their son has got to do more. He's got
to play harder, you know, he's he's got to work on his skills.
They they tell on themselves, they drop hints, and you know you've
get the wrong type of kind of you know, people in that inner circle
around your players, they'll sink your program. There's measurable. I mean that
that was so real. But I think in this day and age, there
aren't many coaches that would stick to their guns as far as what they specifically
have set as the criteria to make this work. And I think that's led
to you know, Yukon getting Cam Spencer from Rutgers, who you know,
like not to pick on him because he's the guy that doesn't have like NBA
upside, but I mean, you know, that's a guy that you can
just tell. He and Hurley were like a line as far as you know,
he's a Hurley guy as far as really really excelling in all those things
he mentioned, as far as accountability, toughness and whatnot. And I believed
in Hurley's the kind of guy that if the number one player in America had
those types of traits that he mentioned initially that are red flags, he wouldn't
want him, and he wouldn't take him. He wouldn't care about the brand
bump it gives his program, not that they need it right now, But
I think he's got an old school approach in every way. But he didn't
come off as like an old, crotchety, old school guy, if that
makes sense. I think he's I think he's the future of college basketball,
and I've said that a lot in the last couple of days for obvious reasons,
given that they just went back to back. But getting him away from
Yukon, I'm sure it's possible at some point. I mean anything's possible.
Heck, maybe goes to Kentucky. But I just I think hearing him be
so kind of content in his way of doing things that he's not enamored by
Kentucky's limelight, I just don't think that does anything for him. Now,
everybody's motivated by money, but he's going to get a big raise, and
I know Yukon does not have the money that a place like Kentucky has,
but I also think that they would do anything like they would just say,
look, here's your contract, We'll find the money somewhere. I mean,
I don't know how realistic that is, but you know, and trust me,
it would be a sad day for me if he ended up a Kentucky.
So, like, I'm willing to acknowledge that, but all the things
I'm saying about him are not because like I'm trying to make it like,
oh, Kentucky, this is the best guy and you can't get him.
I mean, I think that is true, but that's not really where I'm
coming from. I mean, I love the guy. You should have seen
John John's face during that interview that we played there, because he I could
tell he wanted to go play for Dan Hurley right now. Oh yeah,
he's the man. He's the man, the man, no doubt about it.
You know who else is the man? Doctor Larry Ben's of pro Reha
Physical Therapy. He's going to join us coming up here on the other side.
Don't go anywhere. It is Coffee and Company taking you up till six
o'clock right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right, We've had about
thirty minutes left here before we wrap it up. Until you goodbye. But
the details of John Calipari's contract at Kentucky or at Arkansas, I should say,
it's gonna take a while for me to get used to that, but
uh, he's gonna get seven million dollars per year. He's got a one
million dollars signing bonus, which I love this. The signing bonus that they're
giving him is the one million dollar buyout that Eric Musselman had to pay to
go to USC. So the money they got, which makes sense, right,
like you put it towards it, But it's rare that you see,
like you know that that's that that's specifically what that transaction ended up being.
The money that USC paid to go take Muscleman. They're going to just say,
hey, we'll give you seven million annually and we'll give you one million
dollars that we just got, which makes sense. It's just rare to see
it, you know, worded that way. He has a yearly retention bonus
of five hundred thousand dollars and then a bunch of incentives for the NCAA tournament.
An appearance is fifty K, Round two is one hundred K, Sweet
sixteen is a quarter of a million. Final four is three hundred and fifty
thousand dollars, and then national title is five hundred k. And then he
has rollover raises and NAA A tournament appearance is a one year rollover of a
fifty thousand dollars salary boost, and then three straight NCAA appearances is three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars in salary increase. So seven million base is great for
any coach, to be honest with you, But as far as the money
he was making annually at Kentucky, he can easily get there with, you
know, with some accomplishments. And then the benefits he gets. He gets
ten tickets to each home basketball game, five tickets to each game for every
Arkansas sport. He gets two cars that will be like loans. I guess
the university owns the vehicles and he drives them, I guess. And then
he gets club memberships at the Blessings and Fayetteville Athletic Club. And here's his
buyout if they fire him, seventy five percent of the remaining contract and if
he leaves, six million dollars will be owed from whoever hires him from Kentucky,
which Mitch Barnhardt. I mean that looked foolish and crazy at the time,
but it is wild how it all worked out for him, because Cali
Perry being entitled to thirty three million if they let him go, but him
not owing them a dime if he leaves is insane. But at the time
that deal was put in place, I mean, again, Cali Perry should
have left for UCLA, like he says in twenty nineteen, just because it
had kind of run its course, right, But I think if you put
yourself in mitche shoes, there's already it's already quite clear that, you know,
and Cal still had all the momentum from the fan base. Cal still
had all the love from UK At that time, things hadn't really fallen apart
yet, and really falling apart is an exaggeration because what ended up happening is
they just simply, you know, they just simply started losing the teams in
the tournament that they shouldn't lose to. But at the time, you know,
if he thinks, Okay, our basketball coach who still seems like the
rock star, he's on top of the world. I can't let him get
I can't let him slip away. And go to UCLA, because if that's
the case, then you know, I'll never live it down. So it
seems it seems crazy now, but I think it actually all kind of made
sense. All right, Let's bring him in. He is doctor Larry Ben's
of pro Rea Physical Therapy. Larry, how are we doing this afternoon?
We're doing well, Nick, waiting at storm here, I guess, But
more importantly, how are you doing? I'm doing well. I consider myself
lucky every day to be able to do what I do. But it's even
better whenever you have a lot of things going on, and that is certainly
the case right now. We've got two programs here in the state that are
going to have new basketball coaches, and that rare happens in general for each
of them, but for both of them to be starting a new is is
kind of wild, no doubt, no doubt in Western Kentucky. Three that's
right, right, Yeah. So one of the things I wanted to ask
you, because I know you are someone that you know, you're more familiar
with this than most certainly myself. When you see if you do see fans
really just being totally consumed by a coaching search flight tracker kind of stuff,
over analyzing every little thing. I mean, to me, it's what makes
us crazy about college sports. But like a lot of it really is nonsense,
right, No, absolutely, I would say ninety plus percent of it,
at least judging by the stuff that I saw during the U of L
search, And that probably is an underestimate, you know. I think on
the positive side of things, I think this you know, type of you
know, irrational exuberance has always you know, it's always been there. It's
just now you've got a venue like Twitter or other social media to you know,
age more. You know, whether it be with the coaches themselves directly
and directly tracking them, tracking airplanes, it's quite amusing and entertainment in many
ways. All Right. So the Masters is getting ready to get set,
and obviously the one golfer that everybody will I think continuously talk about more than
anybody else, is the one the only Tiger Woods. You know, given
his his injury history that he's had for for quite some time. I mean,
is there ever a point where we'll see him not gravitate? I mean,
just he commands such a such a I don't think there's a comparison to
somebody that has just been so different than anybody else that has also been great,
and said Sport, I don't know if there's another. And obviously Michael
Jordan was phenomenal and he commanded a lot of attention, but there's been other
greats too. I mean, even you know Lebron during his great run.
I just think Tiger is so different, and I feel like eventually we're going
to hit a point where maybe there's not still this fanfare in this obsession to
see, Okay, can he get it done? Is he healthy? But
I guess I'll believe it when I see at this point. No, it's
really interesting Tiger Woods has had more injuries as a golfer than a fifteen year
veteran of the NFL as a running back. I mean, it is unbelievable
when you think of you know, four back surgeries, ACL repair, neck
foot, you know, fusions. He's had a bunch of eye surgeries that
probably don't you know, make the news as much, but it certainly has
an impact on putting, you know, just as asking Nick Faldough. But
I'm just amazed he can even get out there, so to me, any
any aspect of him playing as a bonus for the younger generation in my view,
because he's certainly he's not going to go out. You know, Jack
Nicholas eventually retired when he said he can no longer be competitive where he would
go out and play in it EGA Championship or a major, and he ultimately
felt like he couldn't win it. And I think Tiger has somewhat followed that
track, and so he genuinely wouldn't be out there if he didn't think he
had a chance. The flip side of that is it has become fashionable for
him. And this is kind of a negative comment, but it's absolutely a
fact. It's become more fashionable for him to drop out of tournaments. Yeah,
if you look at his starts in the last you know, call it,
I don't know, eighteen months, twenty four months, he's he's entered
and exited tournaments by his own accord, which is not typical and genuinely,
you know, frowned upon. But you know, he's Tiger Wood, so
he can. He's the best golfer of all time. He could do anything
he wants. But it'll be interesting to see if he can get through all
the practice rounds in the fan fear and you know, tee it up and
see what happens. It's exciting stuff. Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned
sort of he didn't truly think he could win, he wouldn't be out there
because I think one of the things that makes athletes of that caliber, meaning
all Tom greats, how makes them special, is there a level to compete,
and there there you know, I don't think there's ever going to be
a scenario where Tiger Woods doesn't believe he can he can get it done at
the highest level, because I think he wouldn't have accomplished what he's accomplished without
having sort of that belief and and that drive. And it's just, you
know, I've learned a lot about his injuries and how rare it is to
see someone you'd be able to still do this given the injury history in our
conversations over the years, and you know, it's just what you said about
the running back injury thing, I mean, that's that's just I mean,
I wonder how many people don't realize that that's insane. It absolutely is insane.
And he's been an absolute godsend for the physical therapy industry, the industry,
I'm sure Sandbox that I play. I mean, you might even remember
some of the comments he's made through the years when he's dropping out of tournaments
and you know, saying his glutes aren't firing enough. And so you know,
we have patience coming in and want to know how to strengthen their glutes.
And he has had a tremendous number of back surgeries and we genuinely,
you know, try to try to you know, avoid that surgery of all
you know that we can. He's had micro dyskectomies, he's had fusions,
and it's just amazing, I mean me acl injuries. You know, when
do you hear golfers tearing apart their a c L. You know, you
hear it in football, You just don't hear it golf. And and then
of recent you know, then he goes through this incredible, you know,
auto accident. The fact that he's even able to recover from that at all
is one thing. Then to play golf as an absolute bonus. And certainly
it looks from the way he's brought his son around and he saw his daughter
actually helping the caddy and some of the you know, more charitable events.
It's good to see his family all around playing but he's got you know,
he had what is known just recently less actually it was about here ago.
Now that so many surgeries, it's hard to keep track of him, but
he had a sub tailor fusion to address what he kept calling this arthritis from
his prior fracture in his ankle. Now, if you're keeping track, that
means he's had fusion in his spine, and he's had fusion in his ankle,
and then his knee has had acl repairs, which obviously are not fusions,
but they're major, you know, injuries that you just typically don't come
back from. So in many ways, he's a real tribute to rehab in
general and the ability to keep it himself in find alternative ways to stay in
shape because he certainly can't run anymore. So he's doing whatever he's doing for
his you know, aerobic capacity, but then his strength training and flexibility.
He travels around with his physical therapist. I mean, it's just it's an
incredible thing to watch. What do you know about his physical therapists specifically,
I'm assuming that's a well known professional or professional in your profession. Given that
he's or she, I'm not even sure anything about this person but obviously I'm
sure that if they haven't wrote a book yet, I mean it'll be or
done a seminar and it'll be very informative. And that's the question. So
for many years he had a very well known physical therapist out of Las Vegas
who he got introduced by his good friend at the time, Marcomera, and
that was his name was Cliff Claven, just a real gem of the industry.
And Cliff unfortunately had an untimely death about oh gosh, about seven years
ago. And so ever since then, you know, Team Tiger has held
things under lock and key relative to signing confidentiality agreements and those kinds of things.
You also have compensatory issues around his injuries. You know, are they
workers comprelated? We've talked about that, you know with other in the NFL
and other things that you have to remember, these are work related injuries.
So there's been, you know, and with hip other privacy rules and everything,
there's been been certainly a lot more of confidentiality. But I'm aware of
two of his physical therapists. One is a male, one's a female and
male rock stars. They are board certified orthopedic specialists. One of them is
in particular is a spying therapist that in more than Norwegian philosophy, so he's
definitely got team Tiger lined up. Well, I know what pro rehab You
guys have the golf rehabilitation and performance training and offer the complimentary screens at all
locations. How often do you find patients really learning a lot about not just
injuries, but just you know, themselves and the types of injuries they can
have. I feel like you know a lot of people who have never really
thought about relying on a physical therapist and that kind of stuff for this sport.
You know, we're talking about average folks, not professional athletes like Tiger
Woods that have had that level of injury history. But I mean, this
is probably one of those things that once golfers do in fact, take you
guys up on it and get the screening done and rely on your help to
have not only a better golf game, but stay healthy and prevent injuries.
It's probably one of those things people wish they would have done a lot longer
ago. No, absolutely, there are two types of athletes that are even
called weekend athletes that will do anything to get back to playing. Maybe more
than two. You might might want to add pickleball to that now, yes,
sure. Traditionally we talk about runners. It's just impossible to keep them
from running, and so we have these, you know, unweighted treadmills that
allow them to run, take weight off, and allow them to keep going.
It's incredible technology. With golf, we have very sophisticated ways of measuring
their flexibility, their strength, both statically and dynamically. And what I mean
by that is the golf swing, you know, all happens in this millisecond
of time period. And you have a lot of golfers who are doing online
instruction. I'm talking about the weekend, you know, kind of warrior golfers.
They watch videos on the internet and YouTube and online and you know,
simulation and there's tons and tons of instruction. The problem with the instruction is
if the golfer isn't physically able to do the correct hip movement, the correct
rotation and their spying, the elevation and their arms, then it's all for
nought. And so what we do is we work in conjunction and personalize the
program to their golf swing. Don't teach the golf swing, but we work
with various club pros on how to adopt their style and philosophy of a golf
swing to that particular golfer. It is incredibly effective. And on top of
that way of a return to golf program where if somebody has hurt, if
they're post surgical, we see a lot of shoulder injuries that go through rehab
and then you know they want to get and alter their swing a bit to
get back to golfing. And I think with with the you know, injury
prevention obviously that's something that is that is a focus for all the sports that
people. You know, any education information you can get as far as things
that can help you stay healthier. Obviously sometimes there's really nothing you could do.
But I feel like with golf, when it's just you know, it's
a swing, you know, injury prevention is just understanding really you know,
how to how to improve yours. You know what you said, take their
swing, learn from that, and you know, maybe a little if some
there could be somebody that's a golfer that for you know, a couple of
years, had had two different injuries that are kind of the same thing,
and it may not have been something they were aware of, but it's just
because of the approach and the swing right now. That's absolutely right. And
they're actually all all the major golf manufacturers, Titleists in Callaway just to name
two of them, have invested a lot of money in certification programs for the
weekend golf athlete, the so called return to back programs, and approbably have
we have we have physical therapists athletic trainers that are that are certified in both
and so they will work with whatever the club pro is, whatever golf clubs
that they use. But you know, golf is one of the sports that
really benefited from COVID, and while there's been some general flattening of that growth,
it is still incredibly popular and was a benefactor and accelerator and it's hard
to get at de time on weekends. All right, last question, who
do you think? Who do you think win's the Masters? Wow? I
just for my personal taste, I'm rooting for one of the PGA folks.
You know, like a Jordan's Speed okay, nice, somebody who's been a
Scottie Chefley, you know, somebody who's been there before. I also like
these young golfers. A lot of people get upset that, you know,
they don't watch LAVM TV and so they get you know, who are these
younger guys. Well, the fact is they're tremendous, But personally I'm pulling
for Justin Thomas of course. Heck yeah, heck yeah, Wait the way
can we He's a Louisville guy, right, I know we always mentions Goshen
and you know, the Oldham County, but like he's he's Louisville. Isn't
he went to Saint X Oh? Absolutely, okay, he went to St.
X. Well, lot of I've got some friends in Oldham County.
They're well, you guys, don't you know, I'm thinking, I'm sure
you guys claim Louisville too, right, we're kind of all. You know,
that's part of the family, isn't it. Oh, it absolutely is.
You know, we got one hundred and twenty counties in the state of
Kentucky. It's only one state that has more counties, that's Texas, and
so we have to you know, adopt all these and annex to them.
And that's why we brought Louisville and formed the city county government. Right,
love it, love it, Larry. Thank you for the time, As
always, my friend, we will talk soon, right all right? Thanks
go cards, Go cards. That's doctor Larry Benn's Proria physical therapy. Quick
time out. We'll come back and wrap this thing up on the other side
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