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want about two and a half hours, So thank you all for your continued

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support. On today's episode, we
have another great guest. He was just

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with us about a month ago.
As you all recall, he is author

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of the book The Conspiracy Theorist Survival
Guide, which is available on Amazon and

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his website wake Up or Else dot
com. So much tremendous feedback from the

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last episode, and he's here today
to talk more specifically about providing biblical analysis

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of the Mandela effect. And again
all his information will be in the show

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description, his email, his YouTube
channels, the links to his book and

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his website. Without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back author

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John Kerwin. John how are you
doing today? Super So great to be

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back with you, George. It's
so much great feedback from our first interview.

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So I was really decided to come
back and share with your guests about

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this topic because it's obviously very important
to me. So glad to be here.

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Yeah, And when I saw your
book, when you emailed me,

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I thought, man, this is
a home run because all the things that

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you talk about in your book are
things that we struggle with as truthers.

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And I did get feedback from people
who had actually purchased your book and they

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said how wonderful it was, so
concrads on that and again, folks,

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please check it out. And it's
about many of the things we struggle about

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as truth ors, whether it be
personal relationships or trying to get others to

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take that red pill. It's a
really good book. But like we said

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earlier, we're talking more about the
biblical analysis of the Mandela effect. So

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why don't you go ahead and explain
to the listeners what exactly we're talking about.

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Sure, this is a mind bender, and so you really got to

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just kind of press the pause button
and put your supernaturalist hat on and just

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to describe it. In Layman's terms, this is an experience that hundreds of

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thousands and millions of people are now
reporting to be having for the first time

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in their life, where not just
memories, but vivid memories are no longer

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the way that they vividly remember them, and these objects things people's names,

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anatomy, geography, history, They
spend multiple categories, and there are hundreds

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of different things within each category that
are changed. Now. Of course some

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of the memories aren't vivid, but
what we call them an anchor memory,

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they're so vivid. They're as vivid
as your name that when you see that

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it's no longer what you remember it
as, you're gobsmacked. You're just there's

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no explanation for it right in the
natural. But you can't deny your own

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being. Your own we have a
relationship with ourself where we know that we

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know that we know. That's what
Christians always say, when you have assurance

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of salvation, How do you know
you're saved? I know that, I

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know that I know that's right,
right, don't we see? Absolutely?

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Well, this is in that realm. Okay, So the the empirical evidence

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that's being presented to you in this
experience is baffling to the natural mind.

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But if you have integrity, and
you have a conscience, and you have

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intuition, you're a going to be
unable to just push this office every day,

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run of the mill misremembering. And
let me just jump right into an

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example for it. Okay, just
to clarify the memory argument, because that's

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the number one argument, and I'll
use you as my guinea pig if that's

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right. Yeah, of course,
yeah, all right, So simple question,

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and this is to illustrate, George, what your expectation is of how

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reliable human memory is. I'm not
putting words in your mouth, but that's

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the goal of this question. Here's
the question. It's a hypothetical situation,

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all right. In this scenario,
you aren't on drugs or any external influences

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like mind control weapons, nothing like
that, and you don't have any medical

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illness. All right, But you
wake up tomorrow and instead of your name

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being George, it's now Jim.
It's Jim, and all of your bank

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statements going back twenty years, it's
Jim everywhere, and everybody around you knows

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you was Jim. Now my question
to you is would you consider that a

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phenomenon? Yes, that would definitely
get in my vehicle in a drive for

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about six hours and sit on a
mountaintop. So i'mware and ponder what has

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happened? Okay, So in other
words, why wouldn't you just relegate that

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to misremember exactly? That would be
something that would it's a stop gap type

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of your entire day stops. You
spend the next days, weeks, months

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trying to figure out what happened.
All right, Now, let's go one

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level deeper. Why would you come
to that conclusion? Why would you think

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it's a phenomenon versus just average run
of the mill misremembering. Oh, I

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think that goes back to what you
opened up with, because we believe,

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you know, I believe everything.
I can discern for myself. What is

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the difference between what happened yesterday and
the dream I had last night? So

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that would have to be my primary
example. All right, Well, not

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to put words in your mouth,
but would it be correct to say that

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if if your name had changed?
Your response to that, it's kind of

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like, look, I don't care
what the data spheres saying I know what

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my name is. Okay, bro
of course, right, we have certainty

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human beings have been created by God
to have this. It's actually an emotional

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state certainty. And so what happens
in that scenario is your your personal opinion

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about how reliable the human memory is
actually very high. So you're saying,

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I know what my name is because
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when it comes to vivid memories.
And so because of that, I can't

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just commit intellectual suicide and wound my
conscience and just sluff this off as unbefuddled,

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right, And so you are forced
to push this now over into this

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supernatural category. Does that make sense? One hundred percent? And I think

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everybody listening agrees. Let me give
you one more example, because this memory

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issue is the real crux of this
whole debate of whether this is you know,

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whether our testimony is true or not
is based on whether we're correct when

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we're saying, hey, we're not
misrememory. This is a phenomenon, all

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right. So in this scenario,
I'll use someone else. Someone you know

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goes to their aging parent, and
the aging parent has no history mental illness,

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they're not on drugs, there's no
outward influences effect them. Everything's normal.

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And this person goes there and the
mom says, who are you?

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So the mom doesn't recognize their own
son, what conclusion would you draw?

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You would conclude that maybe some onset
of Parkinson's or something was coming on,

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right, Okay, exactly. Now
that's the response that they always get.

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Now again, it's the same thing. And I'm not putting words in your

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mouth, but just to cut to
the chase, I'll give you my analysis

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of why you're saying that. Okay, you're looking at that mom, and

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all of recorded history would back you
up that the expectation that all of us

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have regarding the reliability of the human
memory is this, if a mom doesn't

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recognize her the face of her own
child, the human memory is so reliable

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in that scenario that if she can't
recognize the child, the only explanation would

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be mental illness. Yeah, that
makes sense absolutely. So what that means

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is that you, George, just
testified twice that your belief is that the

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human memory is very reliable, agree
when it comes to vivid memories. And

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I'm going to really hammer this hall
with one more example, because once this

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argument is dealt with, all of
the other arguments fall aside, and there

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really is no debate. All right, this one is real simple. You

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have a couple that's lived in suburbia
for twenty years, and next door to

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them is Joe. But then down
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you got a couple twenty years living
next door to Joe. Okay, Now

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I'm multiplying at times one hundred,
So you have a hundred examples in this

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case study of one hundred different families
living in a hundred different neighborhoods and next

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door each of them has a guy
named Joe, but down the street,

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two doors down is another guy named
Jim. Now again, the goal of

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this is to gauge your expectation of
how reliable the human memory is. Okay,

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and I'm not going to give you
the answer. You're going to give

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us the answer, and all of
your listeners can do this as well.

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What is your expectation how many of
those people do you think would be confused

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and misremember and have an implanted thought
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wrong after twenty years? Ten percent? Ten percent? Ten percent is very

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low. Yeah, see so,
and most people will see even less than

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that sometimes. And so what that
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most of us agree that one hundred
percent wouldn't get it wrong. Fifty percent

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wouldn't get it wrong. It's not
even twenty five. It's a very low

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number. So when we're told,
oh, you're just misremembering, those people

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are being disingenuous. If they don't
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Yeah, it would be a very
low number. Thank you for letting me

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get that. That settle, because
there's a This is a very polarized topic

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and it's very subjective. But I've
been doing this now for seven years,

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and that really what we just did. I don't think is you can go

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around it. The logic is pretty
searing. You know, everybody thinks the

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same way about the human memory.
It actually is very reliable and did And

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before we move on, I wanted
to mention one thing, if it's okay,

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because a lot of the things within
the Mandela effect, I can kind

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of agree with with it, the
monopoly guy and those type of things,

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but it's interesting, said the Mandela
effect, if I'm correct, was named

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after Nelson Mandela, who died,
you know, ten years ago or so.

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But I guess there's a lot of
people out there who remember him dying

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in prison in the eighties. I'm
one of those people. I remember him

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getting out of prison and you know, would go on to run the country.

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But I didn't realize that that many
people thought or remembered that he died

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back in the eighties. Right.
That was one of the first people that

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were famous where many people remember them
dying and then all of a sudden they

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weren't dead. I had one experience
like that with Billy Graham. I remember

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Billy Graham dying and then somehow he
wasn't dead. That was pretty vivid for

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me. But there's been a lot
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Let me say this also, we
don't know really what how this works,

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or who's causing it specifically, or
how they're causing it. We just know

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what it isn't It isn't misrememory.
We're all adults. We understand when you

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go to the Christmas party and you
say, oh, hey Joe and the

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guy says, oh no, my
name is Jim, that's misrememory. But

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but this is turning our lives upside
down. This is something it's clearly a

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phenomenon. You have millions of people
claiming this. It's it's so widespread that

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you have magazines like Popular Mechanics,
Parade Readers, Digest, Good Housekeeping all

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have done full page spreads on this. You've got Fox News covering it,

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You've got multiple movies covering it,
and the evidence is irrefutable. I mean,

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how many people are the Jackson five? George five? There was originally

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six? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. So at a certain

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point, the human brain is very
reliable in some of these memories. If

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I go through enough of them,
you'll get one that's an anchor memory and

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you're like, no way, yeah, I think that. You kind of

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put your foot down. You put
your foot down, and you say,

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all right, that one. There's
no way that I'm misremembering. So what's

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really going on? That's why you
kind of go down the at all.

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It's really amazing. I saw that
article in Good Housekeeping this week when I

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was just kind of going through some
notes, and the one that kind of

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threw me for a loop was I
could have sworn it was the baron Stein

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Bears, Like, yeah, I
knew it was the baron Stein Bears.

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What that can't be right? Well, there's one event that really took it

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to the next level. This one
pretty much solidified it for a lot of

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us. And this is something we
call flip flops. Now, there have

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been four really documented ones where the
thing changed, and these were in pop

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culture and I'll give them to your
real quick. These things changed and we

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all made videos and talked about it, and it was all this buzz in

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the community. And then six months
later, a year later, George,

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they changed back again. One of
them was flint Stones. We all woke

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up one day and there was flint
Stones. There was no tea, which

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doesn't even make any sense because everything
in Flintstones is a rock, like Barney

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rubble bedrock. Mister Slate will now
flint is a stone, and now there's

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no tea. So it's Flynn.
So we're like, no, why this

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is a bit doesn't affect and we'll
see it. It's not photoshop and it's

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not a change. It's all the
way back to the beginning and it's always

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been that way, and it's in
the stores on the lunch boxes with no

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tea. Well six months later,
we wake up one morning and the tea

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is back. So we literally watched
it in a sense, we watched it

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change, so you can't really go
to the misremembering argument with the flip flop.

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I think it's probably the compelling proof
because it wasn't just one guy,

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it was the entire community. And
then we even have I have I personally

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did a video on another one,
which was Chuck E Cheese. Chuck E

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Cheese. We wake up one morning
and now it's chucky. Well six months

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a year later, it changed back
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what it is now. It's it's
crazy. Yeah, so, oh my

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gosh. That the other one is
a tidy Cats became tidy Cat lost its

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ass, and then it came back
again, and the and the last one

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was Houston, we have a problem
became Houston, We've had a problem.

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And then about a year later it
switched back to what it was what everybody

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remembers. And when did that change
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released the movie A Pello with thirteen
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movie line itself. The original recording
never changed. The movie line changed and

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everybody noticed it, but then it
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because this is what you have to
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that it's really hard to get your
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this aspect of it. When the
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Let's use in Stones as the example. It didn't change like a year

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ago, and before that it was
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changed, and now it's flint When
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and look at it, it's always
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whole timeline has changed. So you
can go back to reviews from the nineteen

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sixties and it's talking about Flintstones.
Somebody's reviewing it, or a book was

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written about whatever. So this is
a real mind better now the three different

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philosophies of what is actually happening.
One is a time stream shift, we're

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shifting to a different timeline. Another
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a different universe. Or it's a
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same but we're seeing differently, like
you've seen that in a hundred sci fi

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movies where they're out of sync and
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Who knows, I mean, who
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this ain't misremembered, bro, We're
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the only way that's the big question
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occur, and more specifically with the
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reddits out there or maybe even websites
like yours that are completely dedicated to this

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type of phenomena. Oh yeah,
I mean the number of websites. I

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did analysis on how many people are
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and at that time I've found four
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predominant. They were most of them
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one hundred thousand subscribers each, and
then there were tons of other ones.

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on Facebook dedicated to this, all
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media and now even tripled quadruple that
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Analytics and easily it's in the millions
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spiritual leaders who are talking openly about
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happening. The whole. There's millions
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happening. Now, my journey has
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found shortly after I found out about
you know, mirror, mirror on the

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wall never existed. It was always
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the changes that are taking place in
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that is a very polarized topic which
I would like to at some point when

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you're ready, He's into because it's
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would believe that that would be impossible
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But it isn't impossible. God has
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it without being a liar. And
so I can ensure you I am not.

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I don't have a chip on my
shoulder. I love God. I've

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been at full time ministry for eleven
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a youth pastor and a worship leader, and another twenty years in lay ministry

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basically full time ministry and different churches
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that the Bible couldn't change just like
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I was forced to go back in
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actually teaching on this, and I
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and very quickly. The difference is
that I believe the Church has conflated the

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terms scripture and the terms Bible to
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of God, which is what the
promises really are saying. Thy word,

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Oh Lord, is forever settled in
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the Bible is settled in heaven?
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So that's where we can go as
we move forward. But I just

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wanted to give your listeners permission,
you know, like it says in Proverbs

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eighteen, he who answers the matter
before he shears it, it is folly

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and shame to him. So I
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an event that was foretold in at
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breathtaking clarity. So this is not
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assure you God is in control and
God God allows the enemy to do things.

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Free will is very much reality to
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we get into this how this is
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knowledge of this in Iran, and
Iran has sure been in the news an

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awful lot just within the last week, and you'd mentioned that there is a

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direct connection to the Mandela effect to
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that out to the listeners. Sure, if you look at passages like Daniel,

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chapter seven, verse twenty five,
it speaks of the anti Christ or

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the beast having the ability to He
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is what it says. And he'll
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Well, without getting into too much
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you can read the commentaries and they
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supernatural Bible, and so it's very
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written thirteen or he's written twelve books
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called the King James Version and the
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this is happening. And he's got
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and having to reluctantly concede that this
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But it's a it's a reputation killer. It's you know, I've lost my

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marriage over a twenty four year marriage
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I would go back to today,
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I've interacted with probably close to two

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hundred people who have been divorced over
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because they came into the truther journey. That's when my ministry is all about.

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It's ministering to the believer who is
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from finding out the moon landing is
fake and oss is fake and nine eleven's

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sake and Rita swat i Mendell affect
is real, and chemtrails are real,

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and there's underground bases and all of
the companies corporations, the government's a corporation

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and all that stuff, and it
just brings such a division between a husband

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and wife and or a father and
children or lifelong friends that very often it's

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it's irreconcilable. And so that's what
the book is about. My ministry is

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really discipleing Christian truthers. Yeah,
and not to beat a dead horse,

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but your book is so important because
I get many emails when you finally wake

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up and you become a truther.
And lucky for me, my wife is

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in the same boat. She sees
everything that I see. But there are

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I guess, so many emails from
people and it's basically they say they're they're

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living a fraudulent life. They can't
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they're not when they're around their partner, and it just hurts them inside.

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very rare example of the exception.
If if your spouse is unconvinced but they

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have grace, you can coexist,
but there's a vacuous gap between you,

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but you know you're able to press
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type of most of us where the
unconvinced basically escalates. And I talk about

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this in chapter six, the Three
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something like this, It's an ultimatum
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I can't have a relationship with you. Yeah, that's what it ends.

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And then of course then there's the
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somebody actually does see these things,
but they don't care. Like I've never

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understand about me either. I don't
find out you're the Truman Show, and

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you just keep going back to work
like you normally when it's didn't say And

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I know there's people out there who
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I think they're afraid. They know
what it means to take They completely understand

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what happens when you take that red
pill, and they just don't want to

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be a part of the reality.
Reality scares a lot of people, and

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that's why so many people folks out
there spend so much time watching movies and

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listening to music. They just want
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the real world can be. Well
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So the truth or mindset is,
we've gone from living on a party

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boat to living on a battleship.
But you know the last six years it

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was still predominantly under the radar.
Well, now the velvet glove of tyranny

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is coming off and it's raining red
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normy is even dealing with things now, But they're disclosing the UFOs are.

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They're talking openly in the Senate hearings
that they have they have biologicals. And

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the senators like, do you mean
you mean human remains? No? The

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guy's like no, and we have
off world technology. All of my life,

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George, they've been telling us we're
kooks if we believes in all right,

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now they're they're telling us straight up. So I don't know what's common,

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man, But it's common suit,
It's common. But isn't it interesting

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we talk about how they use Hollywood
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Did you see those two ets that
they unveiled in Mexico? They looked exactly

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like the et from the eighties movie
You Can't Make It Up. Yes,

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No, yeah, you're talking about
Perue. There's the village that was attacked

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by the seven foot aliens with silver
suits on. Is that the one you're

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talking about. No, they just
unveiled within the last few days. They

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literally had them in these little coffins
and they took off the tops and they

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were taking pictures they were two I
don't remember how old the bodies were,

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but they were aliens in these two
caskets, and they had them in like

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a congress senate type of deal,
a lot of officials around, and everybody

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was taking pictures. But it's liked
exactly like eight from the eighties movie.

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Yeah, yep, it's real,
all right. So you've mentioned the four

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scriptures that mentioned this, I'm assuming
Daniel seven twenty five was one of them.

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eight. I believe it starts at
verse twelve. I don't have it in

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front of me, but basically it
says that God is going to send and

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it is an end day's propsy.
I've talked to many pastors. I've listened

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to three or four independence it is
definitely a fair interpretation to say that Amos

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chapter eight is a future propsy for
a number of reasons which I won't get

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into, you know, for the
sake of time. So, assuming that's

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true, what it says, God
is going to send a famine, not

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a famine of bread, but a
famine of the Word, and men will

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men will seek the Word and will
not be able to find it, they'll

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travel to and fro north and south
and will not find it. Well,

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that's impossible in modernity, because we
have the word in a million different flash

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drives, it's all. Then they
couldn't get rid of the Word. The

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only way that that prophecy could be
fulfilled would be something like the Mandelaphi,

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where it's no longer actually in the
Bibles and so on that note, before

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important is Revelation chapter thirteen, and
I'm just doing it for memory as well.

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So basically what it says, talking
about the beast anti Christ will be

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given power and permission to wage war
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because the primary argument is the devil
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of course he doesn't unless God gives
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he is doing that in Revelation thirteen. And you see that very clearly as

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in principle in the first chapter of
Job, where God and the Devil are

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having this little back and forth that
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finally he says to God to prove
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for the intrinsic love that they got
that man has for God, regardless of

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the circumstances. To prove that point, he says, all that he has

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is in your power to the devil, he basically lifts the hedge. So

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that's an individual example, but it's
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wisdom allowed Job who didn't deserve it, because God bragged on him, said,

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God, he's a righteous man.
He excuse evil. But he allowed

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Satan to mess with his stuff first, and then even you know, at

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the end, to touch his body
but not kill him. Well, that's

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astonishing Godrin. You know that we
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We have to fear him and serve
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not playing and this last Day's thing, what he's going to allow in the

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tribulation is mind bending. I mean, you know, if you're rounded the

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tribulation, you're going to experience a
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a different view of our skin.
He doesn't hold the same value to our

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you know, temporal comforts. You
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is no answer, you know.
He goes like, oh, he's like

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this. He's like, I've not
seen earth, not heard the wonders,

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which God is prepared for those alone. He's like, don't worry about the

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torture. You'll get through it.
I'll be there with you. You know,

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ready, you get to have it. That's like literally how he runs

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the universe. So I'm like my
prayer every day is like, Okay,

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God, I just I accept your
terms. I'm rolling with you because I

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know you're good. But I got
a lot of questions that are unanswered,

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and I'm just going with you God
because they'll arn't your brain, you know,

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urch your brain and this problem,
that's one of the problems that people

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have with them and thee'll effect this. They'll tell me, John, this

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is this is impossible. God wouldn't
allow it. They tell me it's too

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disruptive. Well, that's not proof
that it's not happening. Yeah, that

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would certainly be The common retort would
be, there's no way God would allow

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his word to be changed. It
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right right. So now this is
in all Bibles, but I'm gonna give

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you some out of the King James
if I'm at Yeah, before we do

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that, there's some two things I
want to mention. Number one a good

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catch with Revelation thirteen, because I
think what you were mentioning was verse four

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when they talk about worshiping the dragon, which in turn gave power to the

405
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beast, and that leads into the
forty two months. Yeah, that is

406
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And where was I going with that? Oh? So I got an email

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from a listener and they were mentioning
she was having these lucid dreams. I'm

408
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not going to mention her name,
but she had a dream, a scary

409
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dream about angels landing and blowing trumpets, and basically she would go on a

410
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couple of days later she saw a
TikTok video and it referenced the feast of

411
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trumpets And as most people listening,
no, we're right in the middle of

412
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that interesting area between September fourteenth and
twenty third where a lot of significant events

413
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in history have happened. It's kind
of between what is it Rashishana and Jan

414
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Kapoor, which a lot of big
events in world history has happened. And

415
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she had mentioned Revelations twelve, and
I kind of was reading the email going

416
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back and forth, and I'm a
pretty big numbers guy. And when I

417
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got to twelve I started reading it, and then I got to Revelations twelve

418
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.480
seven and it said, and there
was a war in heaven. Michael and

419
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his angels fought against the dragon,
and the dragon fought and his angels.

420
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And I saw that Revelation twelve seven, twelve seven, and then my jaw

421
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:15.559
hit the ground. This was just
a couple of days ago when I got

422
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this email, and I said,
wait a second, So September eleventh.

423
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You know, many people believe that
Jesus was born on September eleventh, three

424
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BC. And what if because you
know, the folks who wrote the project

425
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Panock, the Peanock authors, and
they wrote that the new Pearl Harbor type

426
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of deal, and a lot of
people thought that twelve seven the Buildings one,

427
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:44.280
two and seven was a tip of
the hat to the authors of that.

428
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But what if Revelation twelve seven and
Buildings one, two and seven were

429
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the kicking off of the war in
heaven. That's very insightful, and there

430
00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:00.360
are a lot of people in this
community that had a lot of p phatic

431
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.639
insight. I don't really go there
myself, I'm on another track. But

432
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:15.000
I listened to the people like you
who are are pointing out that very synchronistic

433
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.719
viewpoints or observations, I mean about
the comparisons between what's happening in reality and

434
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.960
these changes, and it's definitely there, because no question, Yeah, that

435
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:29.559
life definitely changed, I mean completely, and obviously it's as significant event like

436
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:34.880
that physical things changed, the way
we fly and everything else. But it

437
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seemed to me, and I'm old
enough to remember that was, you know,

438
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thirty something whatever that prior to nine
to eleven, there was a faint

439
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.599
evil in the world. You saw
it, but it wasn't as prevalent.

440
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.760
For the last twenty two years,
the evil has been in our face and

441
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.840
it's gotten worse every single day,
specifically over the last three years. They've

442
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:57.519
thrown it in our face and they
haven't even tried to hide the evil.

443
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.519
So it's just an interesting when I
kind of saw that correlation, you know,

444
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:06.480
I don't know, yes, no, it's definitely there. I've listened

445
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.119
to people who are really keen on
that and they pull out these connections.

446
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:14.400
I'm like, wow, that's brilliant. I mean, it's so obviously happening

447
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:20.760
and so it's a very deep web
of intrigue. What's really happening we don't

448
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.519
know. It's definitely not random.
I mean I have theories about how it's

449
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.039
happening, the technology, the witchcraft, how long it's been happening. But

450
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:35.000
you know, ultimately, you know, I have such a sense of destiny

451
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.480
because the things that are changing include
the Bible. And the problem is the

452
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:44.840
majority of Christiandom doesn't acknowledge it.
They don't they either don't know what's happening,

453
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or worse, when we talk with
pastors, they're very recalcitrant. They

454
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don't want to talk about it.
And when we give them the proofs,

455
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.440
they give us all kinds of cockamami
excuses. I mean, when I share

456
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.920
what's in the in your Bible right
now, you won't even believe it.

457
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.239
Yeah, you'll have to go.
You What people have to do is they

458
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.119
don't even trust their own Bibles.
And very often I get this all the

459
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:14.079
time. They go up into the
attic and they get Grandma's Guttenberg and they

460
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:15.800
stay like, you know, like
who laid down with the lamb? I

461
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.920
know you probably know this one because
we always start with this one. But

462
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.480
in your me memory, Do you
remember who laid down with the lamb?

463
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.880
Who laid down with the lamb?
Yeah, it's it's a very enigmatic passage

464
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.599
from the Old Testament talking about the
millennial, right, Oh, that I

465
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:36.880
have remember taking this test on your
website. The wolf, right, Well,

466
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.039
that's what it says now. But
I and that's because you've already been

467
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.360
exposed to the changes. But I
personally have sat with at least twenty pastors

468
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:51.719
now in the last seven years,
twenty pastors. I've talked to hundreds of

469
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.119
other Christians, but twenty pastors sitting
in a room together. Hey, pastor,

470
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.760
who laid down with the lamb?
All of them said the lion.

471
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One ever said, well, not
one, because it's that the wolf and

472
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the lamb, and then the leopard
lied with the goat or the kid,

473
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.760
right, right. But if you
go to Isaiah eleven six, it doesn't

474
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save the line laid down with the
lamb. It says the wolf will dwell

475
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:22.000
with the lamb. And at a
certain point, it's strange credilities to try

476
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:29.440
to suggest that this this is somehow
got into the lexicon of the entire body

477
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:36.440
of Christ and the world because of
some uh mis quote and then the telephone

478
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game. Let's let's address the telephone
game, because that's the only explanation that

479
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.599
I ever get. That's right.
Yeah, I'd mentioned before we started.

480
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I've gotten a couple of emails to
mention to you. Could have been just

481
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a simple case of the telephone game. Right, of course, that's a

482
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.400
that's a go to reason. But
uh, you know, these types of

483
00:38:52.559 --> 00:39:00.480
arguments haven't really been thought through to
be frank, because what's your posing is

484
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:06.360
that you have? Let's take I'll
do a fill in the blanks question for

485
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:13.000
you. This is King James judge
not blank, he be judged, And

486
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:19.000
fill that in for me. Judge
not blank, you be judged? What

487
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:27.880
comes to mind? They're still there. I'm so sorry, I'm muting.

488
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.039
I keep saying, oh good,
I keep frying, and I'm like,

489
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:31.760
why is he to ignore me?
I judge not less, you be judged?

490
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:37.840
Sorry? And now again this is
on the lips of Satan cinner alike

491
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.400
the world over. I've had that
quoted to me when I was preaching in

492
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.679
the streets. Yeah, you know, witnessing judge not let's you be judged?

493
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.199
All the sinners are saying that,
And then of course the preachers are

494
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.840
saying it, and you just said
it. That scripture George has never existed

495
00:39:53.039 --> 00:40:02.239
in any Bible translation ever. Really
really, so, now when I when

496
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I get to this moment right with
a pastor, then I ask him how

497
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is that possible? Now they're cornered, they are be funneled. They just

498
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they don't know what's to say,
and so they blurred out, well,

499
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.719
I have you ever heard of the
telephone game? Well, now let's analyze

500
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.800
that. Let's be rational adults,
and let's think this through. I'd say,

501
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.840
well, what do you mean,
pastor, Well, you know,

502
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:27.719
John, fifty years ago, someone
just misquoted it, and that's gone through

503
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.000
the whole world like the telephone game. That's what they toom it. Okay,

504
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:35.199
now think about what you're trying to
ask me to accept. I on

505
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.800
the other side of that, have
my Bible for the last forty years that

506
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:44.360
I read I don't know, every
day, and then I have I don't

507
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.400
just read the Bible, right,
I memorize the Bible. I mean there's

508
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very few books that I go try
to commit to memory, but I do

509
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that with the Bible, and then
I have a daily devotional Oswald Chambers which

510
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has a scripture each day, which
is, you know, eventually I'm going

511
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to come across judge now lest you
be judged. And then I went to

512
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:07.559
children's church. There's books that I
read that quote scriptures. Then I listened

513
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:13.039
to the Bible on tapes and stuff. Then I go to church and listen

514
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.400
to a guy talking about the Bible, and I'll go to a Bible study

515
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.440
and study the Bible. And I
do that week after week, month after

516
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.840
month, year after year, for
four decades. Those are eight different influences

517
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:32.599
to enforce judge not that ye be
not judged, which is what's what's always

518
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.440
been in all the Bibles of King
James, every version. Okay, that's

519
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:44.360
what I should remember. But somehow, this one guy fifty years ago quoted

520
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.440
judge not less you be judged,
and then it got repeated somehow through the

521
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:53.119
media blah blah blah blah blah.
Okay, and all of those influences overcame

522
00:41:53.239 --> 00:42:00.599
all of my influences. Now,
it might, by some bizarre thing happened

523
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.159
with one scripture, but are you
trying to tell me that that's happened with

524
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:13.320
fifty scriptures. I'm sorry. Yeah, there's there's a there's a scientific discipline

525
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:19.159
called probabilities, right, and it's
the probability of that happening is zero,

526
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:25.480
not possible. Yeah, we're to
abandon the telephone game, please, Yeah,

527
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.159
that's it. That's a great point, because the telephone game wouldn't work

528
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.800
for one hundred percent of all folks
like that. And so I went to

529
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:37.920
Matthew seven one, which is what
is referenced, and I clicked on all

530
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.320
the other versions, just thinking,
well, maybe it was an NIV version

531
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.800
or something else, and it's not
not at all. No, that doesn't

532
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.119
exist. That is that is so
interesting? All right? Now, there's

533
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:55.480
two types of evidence with this.
One is that it's just not what we

534
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.679
remember, and that should be enough. In most of the cases where people

535
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:07.119
have conceded that this is happening,
they saw one or two passages and they

536
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:12.199
had certainty. Like I remember this
one lady, she was seventy five King

537
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:16.119
James. Only she called me and
she said, John, when I saw

538
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.840
the word bank in my Bible,
I knew that that was never there,

539
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:23.039
and I knew this was real one
time. Okay, However, there's another

540
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:29.960
thing that's coming up, which is
a second type of proof. It's cooperative

541
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:36.719
evidence, and that is that some
of the changes are what I call biblical

542
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:45.599
paradoxes. So the change introduces a
corruption into what we know who we know

543
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:52.639
God to be. So there's sexual
innuendo, there's bizarre graphic things, and

544
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.039
I'll share some of them with you. Now, these are gonna be these

545
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:02.199
are gonna be evidences that the Bible's
changing because the nature of them is inconsistent

546
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.760
with who we know God to be. Okay, okay, all right.

547
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.400
So the first one is and this
is dual. This is also a memory

548
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:15.960
in your in your memory, do
you ever remember Jesus spitting in someone's face

549
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:20.599
to heal them? Yes? Yeah, he had to do it twice.

550
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.960
I believe that was one of the
rare occasions where he did it and the

551
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:27.920
person could kind of see. And
he did it again, and the gentleman

552
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.239
was able to see fully. Right
that one, the man said, I

553
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.519
see men, but they look like
tree trees. That's right, he's right,

554
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:39.079
prayed from again. But this was
where he used his spit and he

555
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.400
how do you remember him doing that? When he used to spit to heal

556
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:53.480
the man? How do you remember
him doing? Uh? What do you

557
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.840
remember him making mud? That's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah,

558
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:04.559
okay. Well, now in Mark
eight twenty three we read this and

559
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.519
he took the blind man by the
hand and led him out of the town.

560
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.440
And when he had spit on his
eyes and put his hands on him,

561
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:17.239
he asked him if he saw aught. Well, what we're seeing here

562
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:23.599
is a shift in you know what
we see in the Bible. There's very

563
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.920
odd things in the Bible, but
this is vividly unfamiliar to most of the

564
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.199
people that I've talked to. They'll
say, no, I never never remember

565
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.719
Jesus spitting right in the guy's face
to yell him. But this also introduces

566
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.960
a very coarse type of an interaction. Worth when he did it, he

567
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:42.199
used the mud, which was kind
of weird, and everybody remembers that,

568
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.960
but they don't remember him spitting right
in the guy's eyes, right, all

569
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.920
right. Second, Corinthians eleven eight
says this, This is Paul saying I

570
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:55.280
robbed other churches, taking wages of
them to do you service. Now,

571
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.079
one of the common responses we get
from church leaders is, well, it

572
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.800
doesn't really mean that, So they're
trying to slough this off as as a

573
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.800
bad translation. Well, in this
case, if you go to the original

574
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:15.599
text, it's that the original meaning
of the word is he robbed. So

575
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:21.000
then the only thing explanation you can
have is that it's just an idiom and

576
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.920
you're just worked up over nothing.
But you know, at a certain point,

577
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:30.360
if you take these aggregately, it's
it's a high wall to climbs to

578
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:35.000
try to claim that we're just making
a big deal out of nothing. Okay,

579
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:39.280
because then you go to Revelations chapter
one, verse thirteen. This is

580
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.280
KJV only son of man, clothed
with a garment down to the foot and

581
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.039
girt about with the paps with a
golden girdle. Now that word paps is

582
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:57.960
the word mastos from the Greek,
which is female breasts. The word stethos

583
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:02.519
is used every time to describe the
male breast. Now, I just had

584
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.280
a debate with a pastor, and
when I brought that to his attention,

585
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:13.280
he was forced to attack the concordance
itself, because now the original is so

586
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.679
shocking and it's supporting what's the English
words are saying. He had to then

587
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:22.920
tried to undermine the concordance. Will
you the concordance is just written by one

588
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.239
guy, and it's unreliable. So
there's you know, the more you look

589
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.840
into this, the farther down they
have to go to try to defend it.

590
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.840
Because what you're what this is saying
is that Jesus is being portrayed as

591
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.599
as baffa mat he's a man with
female breasts. It's what the what the

592
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:46.719
scripture says, paps, it's outrageous
at one hundred percent because it means mastos,

593
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.360
and mastos literally means an ancient Greek
drinking vessel shape like a woman's breast.

594
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.639
Yeah, that's G thirty one.
And the concordance, Well then you

595
00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:01.119
have Luke eighteen fifteen. This is
an all version. Uh. It says,

596
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:06.559
and they brought well, let me
ask you in your recollection, did

597
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:14.039
they ever bring infants to Jesus for
him to touch them? Not children?

598
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:20.760
Infants? Yeah? Do you remember
them? Yeah? Well most people don't

599
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.639
remember infants, babies. They remember
they brought children him unto him that he

600
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:29.039
may bless them. Now, what
it says is they brought into him infants

601
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.639
that he would touch them, right
right right, Well that's very different than

602
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:39.360
bringing children, all right, Luke
nineteen twenty seven. But this is Jesus.

603
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.159
But those mine enemies, which would
not that I would reign over them,

604
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:50.239
Bring them hither and slay them before
me. Yea. Now you can

605
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:53.280
split on your cape and become commentary
man and try to commentary your way out

606
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:55.599
of this. But I have I
have. I have a problem because I've

607
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:01.639
been in the streets with Muslims and
for forty years talking to them, and

608
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:05.800
never, ever, ever, in
forty years, did any of them ever

609
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.639
bring up the fact that Jesus,
you know, is saying that he'll slay

610
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:15.000
people that don't follow them. You
know, why should I convert to Christianity,

611
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.119
John, I've already got Jehad with
my God. And you could try

612
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.280
to tell me that, you know, well, it's not talking about now,

613
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:27.679
it's talking about the judgment or it's
a parable. But that's irrelevant because

614
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:32.119
my argument is that my vivid memory, I know this book like the back

615
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:37.199
of my hand. It's like my
name, my name changed to Fred okay,

616
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:42.760
And I'm saying, I don't care
what your explanation is for the underlying

617
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.159
Greek or you know, whatever you're
gonna come up with, it's irrelevant.

618
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:51.960
I do polls on Twitter, and
I'll have one hundred percent. Tell me,

619
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:58.199
oh, that was never in my
bible. That's impossible because sociologist studies

620
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.039
have shown in an event, let's
take a car accident. If you have

621
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:07.599
you know, twenty people that observe
a car accident, anything over five or

622
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:13.760
ten percent where everybody misremembers the same
way is an anomaly. Sure follow me.

623
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:15.880
So they all let's say the guy
had a green shirt on, and

624
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:22.039
more than ten percent all say he
had an orange shirt. Well, guess

625
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.760
what. There was a sociologist early
on in this that did a online study

626
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:32.440
and he say, upled twenty five
thousand people about the Mandel effect. And

627
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.559
he'd asked him what did what did
the witch say when in seven dwarfs when

628
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:42.599
she's standing in front of the mirror, ninety plus percent said mirror, mirror

629
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.039
on the wall. Sure, that's
what I remembered as as well, of

630
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.960
course, all right, so,
but what does that mean? The scientific

631
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:53.599
studies proved that human beings, when
they misremembered, don't all misremember the same

632
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.519
way. But in the case of
the Mandel effect, we're all misremembering the

633
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:04.599
same thing, which means it's absolutely
in the category of a phenomena. This

634
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.719
is not a naturalistic thing. You
can just brush aside. The human memories

635
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.840
unreliable. I'm sorry. We're in
the final days of the church age and

636
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.079
all h e double ellis bake and
loose, and this is one of them.

637
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.039
So in this case, you know
many of the examples that you've given

638
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:29.000
where there were slight changes or were
changes within the text, But in this

639
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:34.599
case you're saying that Luke nineteen,
verse twenty seven was something that just appeared

640
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:39.320
later at some point in time.
Absolutely, because all of those years when

641
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.760
I was in New York in the
ministry, I never heard about this,

642
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.199
and now I do. Now I
see Muslims debating Christians, and the first

643
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:52.039
thing they bring up is ga Jesus, Well, that never happened for forty

644
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.280
thirty years before. Now all of
a sudden, it's happening. And now

645
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:02.000
here there's like a mountain an avalanche
of these articles saying it's a common misconception

646
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.840
that and then then they start to
try to explain away these changes, and

647
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:12.199
the Mendel effect community is like,
no, I mean, I have a

648
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.559
one hundred to one hundred and fifty
news subscribers a month, mostly Christians,

649
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:21.679
and they're leaving the church because they
can't reconcile the fact that the church leader

650
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:27.199
is so spiritually dull that they can't
even recognize the fact that they're not even

651
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:31.320
saying the words correctly that are on
their page. This happened to me numerous

652
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.800
times. I'm in church. I'm
in a KJV only church, and I've

653
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.840
got the Bible open on my lap, and i know the pastor's got a

654
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:45.440
KJV Bible and he's quoting First Corinthia's
thirteen and the greatest of these is love,

655
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.079
like faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is

656
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:52.159
love. And I'm looking at my
Bible and it says charity, and I'm

657
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:57.000
thinking, okay, And I know
the Mandel effect is real and it's happening,

658
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.599
and I'm thinking, I can't say
anything because my wife is sitting next

659
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.400
to me and she'll go ballistic if
my space I'm sure, but we're we're

660
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.320
boxed then, I mean, we're
we're surrounded by people that don't want this

661
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.039
to be true, and if you
try to bring it up, you're you're

662
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.119
relegated to the seventh circle of Hell. In fact, I came home one

663
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:20.719
day and there was an intervention in
my son room with the pastor, the

664
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.440
assistant pastor, and the deacon and
my wife. And my wife has a

665
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:28.920
background alcohol addiction counseling, and she's
telling me I need medication. Some of

666
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.199
your listeners and know what I'm talking
about, and trust me, I know

667
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:36.440
too. When I show up the
family events, you can see the people

668
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.639
elbow and about that. You would
tell me about you going to the family

669
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:45.400
events, what happens to you?
Yeah, there's crazy uncle George. Wow.

670
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.280
It should not be this way.
No, it shouldn't. And at

671
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:53.400
some point I have to ask the
question. I guess now is it good

672
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:58.800
as time as any? And this
goes to many of the conspiracies, and

673
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:05.239
it has a pretty obvious answer.
But the big question is why is this

674
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.719
important? Right? That's that's a
big question that has asked with many of

675
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:12.239
It applies directly to flat earth as
well, and once you see it,

676
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.559
you realize in that case they're trying
to hide God. So in this case,

677
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.280
why is it so important? Well, that's a great question, and

678
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:24.599
it's it's a foundational question for me
because I actually deleted my channel twice in

679
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:30.400
order to try to save my marriage
because my wife was not only didn't want

680
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:34.039
me to believe these things. She
didn't want me involved as an activist at

681
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:38.000
all. It sort of wanted me
to recant totally in order to remain married,

682
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.400
and I wasn't willing to do that. I didn't talk to her or

683
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:45.679
the kids for two years after the
first couple of years. But I'm gonna

684
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.320
go over here and I'm gonna wage
war with the devil, because that's what

685
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.559
I'm supposed to do, right uh
huh. So I deleted my channel.

686
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:55.960
But then I'm sitting there and I'm
like, God is like showing me,

687
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.159
Peter, this is how God showed
me. He showed me, p You're

688
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.480
the apostle, right, And Jesus
comes along says ten words, follow me

689
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:06.960
and I'll make you Fisher's de men, and it says he immediately dropped his

690
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.360
nets and followed super Destiny laid at
your feet. Well, we'll imagine that

691
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:14.440
this is what God showed me,
Like this kind of like a picture or

692
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:19.199
whatever. Peter goes back to his
wife and he goes, hey, honey,

693
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.679
this carpenter from Gali came and I
think he's the Messiah and I just

694
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:24.360
dropped my nest. I'm gonna follow
him. We're gonna follow hi because Peter

695
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:28.559
was married. And then and then
the wife goes, what do you mean

696
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.480
you're gonna drop your nets? You're
a fisherman. How are we going to

697
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.920
provide for ourselves? Your father was
a fisherman and your grandfather. You are

698
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.519
not going to drop your nets?
And what if Peter was like, yes,

699
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:44.920
dear oh, I was like I
was like, good point, God,

700
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:50.760
good points. So the sense of
destiny that is laying upon me is

701
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:57.880
so heavy because this is happening right. And the problem is the majority of

702
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:05.280
the entire body of Christ is unaware
that the Bible is being fiddled with by

703
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:08.079
the devil, and they don't want
to know. They don't know, and

704
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:13.000
they don't want to know. And
so last year, you're my ministry was

705
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:16.000
to the community and the discipling the
follower. But this year God's turned us

706
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:22.599
outwards and we are now starting to
do debates with pastors and it is fireworks,

707
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:29.599
fireworks, because they've got to know, because I don't believe this is

708
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:34.840
a salvation issue if you don't see
this, but it is perilous because the

709
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.719
things that are in your Bible are
becoming so corrupt that I can see how

710
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:43.840
it continues. It could be the
source of the great falling away or how

711
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.519
the very elector to see, because
you're going to hear from the Antichrist and

712
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:52.119
he's going to point to the Bible
to support that he's the guy, and

713
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.519
you're going to be like, well, I guess I misunderstood who Jesus was

714
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:00.320
because everything this guy's talking about himself
is in the Bible. And then you'll

715
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:06.119
take the mark and then you will
be damned. Yeah, okay, that's

716
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:13.920
that's my response to why it matters. I've got Leviticus twelve eight says you

717
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.440
can sacrifice turtles to God. I
mean, if that doesn't knock you off

718
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:22.400
your chair, I don't know what
will. You've got men breastfeeding in numbers

719
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:28.079
eleven verse twelve. Have I conceived
of list people? Have I begotten them?

720
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.920
That thou shouldst say unto me?
Carry them in thy bosom as a

721
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:37.480
nursing father beareth the sucking child.
And then, of course Isaiah eight one.

722
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:44.360
You've got Isaiah knocks up a prophetess
and has an illegitimate child. I'm

723
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.280
sorry, but I've been in the
Bible forty years and now Isaiah never knocked

724
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:51.840
up anybody, okay, period,
And now it says, then I made

725
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.400
love to the prophetess and she conceived
and gave birth to a son, and

726
00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:01.599
the Lord said to me, name
him mahar Shallah hash Baths. You might

727
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.480
remember that. But every time I
ask believers, it's like ninety five percent

728
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:10.159
say no way. And you've got
Isaiah thirty six ten, where you've got

729
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.159
a description of people drinking their own
piss and eating their own dung. Yet

730
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:21.440
look seventeen thirty four, you have
two men in a bed and two women

731
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.719
grinding. Two men in a bed
was two men in a field, and

732
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:30.239
actually says it after that now,
but this was added. And if you

733
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:35.639
think that we just have dirty minds, you're wrong, because the LBGT community

734
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.360
has seized on this because what happens
with the two men in the bed is

735
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:43.480
one of them gets raptured. So
they're pointing to this now and they're saying,

736
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:51.519
see, you can be gay and
go to heaven. And again again,

737
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:58.039
that never that dialogue, that narrative
never happened in thirty five years of

738
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:02.440
being a devout believer, and in
the ministry, I think I would have

739
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:08.599
heard of the two men in a
bad thing or along the way. Yeah,

740
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:17.280
and I would ask you, people
are gonna that. The next question

741
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:21.880
I think that most people would ask
you is why would God allow this?

742
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:27.960
Oh my gosh, thank you for
asking that. Yeah, okay, of

743
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.920
course, who can know the mind
of God. We actually are allowed to

744
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:37.039
know God, but we can't ever
really understand him. And because it'll take

745
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:44.440
all of eternity for his divine perfections
to be unfolded to us throughout eternity,

746
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.840
the divine perfection of his love,
of his righteousness, of his wisdom,

747
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:55.079
of his holiness, we'll look at
him in astonishment and be figuring there's an

748
00:59:55.159 --> 01:00:00.679
infinite ocean of him in this one
aspect, and I can't even taken a

749
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.880
grain of it. How will I? You won't be able to even handle

750
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:08.639
the glory that he has, and
it'll be one drop of an endless ocean.

751
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:15.039
So we'll look forward in astonishment in
eternity as we learn more and more

752
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:22.199
of who this God really is.
But what's happened with this is very similar

753
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:28.360
to what happened when Jesus came,
the Son of God, was God incarnate,

754
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:34.039
The Word became flesh and dwelt among
us. So just as an aside.

755
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:39.719
My definition of what the word means
is the word is the expressed will

756
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:46.199
of God as seen in Christ Jesus, because Jesus said, if you see

757
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:50.800
me, you've seen the Father.
And he said, I don't do anything

758
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:55.000
unless I see the Father do it
first. So Jesus's narrative was, whatever

759
01:00:55.159 --> 01:01:00.679
God wants, that's what I do. And even in the garden he said,

760
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:04.079
I don't want to go to the
cross, but nevertheless my will so

761
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.760
and then we're told in the beginning
was the word, and the word was

762
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.320
with God, and the word was
God. Verse fourteen, the word became

763
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.360
flesh and dwelt among us. Well, that's Jesus. So the word is

764
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:20.320
Jesus. But what does that really
mean. Well, to some degree,

765
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.880
the Father, the Son, and
the Holy Spirit are the Godhead, the

766
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:30.840
one, the three in one trinity. This God is one God, but

767
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:37.519
he's expressed as three separate personalities.
And the Father sent the Son to do

768
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:44.639
his will. He sent the Word
to go down and be the propitiation for

769
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:49.559
fallen man. What is the word? The word is the expressed will of

770
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:53.760
the Father as seen in Jesus Christ. That doesn't change, and that is

771
01:01:53.800 --> 01:02:00.360
forever settled in heaven. But the
terrestrial book is absolutely subject by God's decree,

772
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:04.719
and in his infinite wisdom, He's
allowing this attack because he told us

773
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:09.039
it would happen in Daniel seven twenty
five and also Second Thessalonians chapter two.

774
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:15.360
Okay, but you're asking me why. So Jesus comes on the scene,

775
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:21.760
and the Pharisees didn't recognize that God
was standing right in front of them except

776
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:29.159
Nicodemus. Nicodemus perceived the glory of
Jesus and that Jesus' message was more accurate,

777
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.519
and he snuck out right in the
middle of the night to go meet

778
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:39.119
this messiah, and he he connected
with Jesus. But the branco file Pharisee

779
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:45.719
was corrupt. They were thinking that
they could know God through their head knowledge.

780
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:50.360
And we have the exact same problem
in this day and age. And

781
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:53.960
so this is what I believe is
part of this is a redemptive judgment,

782
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.440
which means it's the goal of it
is to win us back to a relation

783
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:05.679
tim And so what God is allowing
is for this voice of the stranger to

784
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.159
start percolating up in the scriptures,
just as Daniel seven twenty five speaks up

785
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:16.039
that he will speak great swelling words
and wear out the saints. I believe

786
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:21.800
that's what he's talking about. And
what's happening is the same thing in reverse.

787
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:27.840
They didn't recognize Jesus when he came, and now Jesus is essentially leaving

788
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:32.000
the text and they're not recognizing that
he's gone. And this is a test

789
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:37.199
to the body of Christ. And
I'm speaking to you, sir, pastor,

790
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:40.880
church leader, deacon. Do you
know God or do you just know

791
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:47.039
the book? Because if you can, if you can listen to me,

792
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:52.639
tell you that men are breastfeeding and
Peter is running around naked. David and

793
01:03:52.800 --> 01:04:00.119
Jonathan are clearly engaged in homosexual reality
experience because it said now says David exceeded,

794
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:04.760
which means to grow as if in
your body. These are outrageous anomalies.

795
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:10.280
And you're going to defend that because
you have a doctrine that the Bible

796
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:15.719
can't change. That's what the Pharisees
did. I'm sorry, your doctrine is

797
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:18.360
incorrect. We have been told all
of our Christian life. From the front

798
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.760
of the room, I hold in
my hand the eternal Word of God,

799
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:28.480
and with all due respect, no
you don't. What you hold in your

800
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:33.440
hand is the scriptures, which contain, like a cup contains water, contains

801
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:38.840
the Word of God. And so
it's sloppy doctrine. And the church has

802
01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:45.679
led us into this almost where they've
institutionalized the Bible and they've essentially over and

803
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.559
now this is blasphemy to the rank
and phile Baptist preacher. Okay, where

804
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:56.440
I'm going to make a statement that
I see very clearly many do that you've

805
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:00.400
over emphasized the role of scripture in
the in the in the life of the

806
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:06.440
believer. Okay, think about the
thief on the cross. He didn't know

807
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:11.800
nothing and he got into heaven.
And we've got it all down to formulas,

808
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:15.239
the Roman road, romans, you
know, how you confess with your

809
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.079
heart and believe in your heart with
you know, it's all like becoming like

810
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:23.920
incantations. And the pastors have become
like attorneys, chop chop chop chop chop,

811
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.199
getting you all the rules blah blah
blah blah blah. And if you

812
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.280
get out of line, and you
can't be out of church, are you

813
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.000
in a local church? You have
to be under authority. And I got

814
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:36.199
saved in a church. I'm not
anti church, Okay, I'm just anti

815
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:45.199
I'm anti lies. And I'm watching
these pastors try to defend what's obviously happening.

816
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:49.400
And they're liars. They're lying to
us. They don't believe that the

817
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:57.159
human memories unreliable, and the cockleman
the answers they're giving us are obviously desperate

818
01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:00.519
type answers because they don't want it
to be true. And I do believe

819
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:04.360
to some degree with many of them
it's because of the rich young ruler prince

820
01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:11.000
all right, you remember the rich
young rule vaguely? Yeah, Okay,

821
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:15.360
this guy was devout. He comes
to Jesus unsolicited and he goes, Master,

822
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.159
I've kept the commandments from my youth. Up, what do I lack?

823
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.119
He's like, he's not a worldline. He's like seeking the Lord.

824
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:27.679
But by Jesus puts his finger.
He's a word of knowledge and he says,

825
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.000
sell all that you have and give
it to the poor man. That's

826
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:36.199
a big ass, And he's like, give it, give it all away,

827
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:40.920
not like in grease your thighs,
right, like I want you to

828
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.639
go adam bomb for me to just
drop everything and follow me. And then

829
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:50.079
then the guy says nothing. He
is. He just all it says is

830
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:55.039
he walked away said because he had
great riches. All right. So I'm

831
01:06:55.079 --> 01:07:00.559
going to pastors and they're telling us, George, if if I tell my

832
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.159
congregation that the Bible's changeing, I
won't have a job anymore. I'm like,

833
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:08.719
let me step back from you,
bro. If you're gonna say that

834
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:10.880
in front of God, I'm gonna
want to be too close to you.

835
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:16.000
Yeah, you're just abdicated your mantle
as a as a shepherd, and you're

836
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:20.800
a hireling. Sir, You're now
you're We have pastors that are telling us,

837
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:24.159
we know the Bible's changing, but
we're not going to say anything.

838
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:29.920
You're a hireling. You're you're.
What you're doing is you're confessing that you

839
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:35.400
are now a co conspirator with slew
Foot to to keep the char the church

840
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:42.920
in in this deception that this isn't
happening, and you're going to stand before

841
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:45.840
God. I have to give it, not want to be I mean,

842
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:50.480
this is this is total war.
There's the dividing of the body of Christ,

843
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:55.400
the wheat and the tears. This
is a huge topic. So that's

844
01:07:55.480 --> 01:08:00.719
my answer to why is this important? Very interesting, and you laid it

845
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:04.480
out extremely well. And to think
about the power, whether it's magic with

846
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:10.360
a k or to be able to
take words and not just words on a

847
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:15.119
notepad or on my white board that's
over here, but to actually take and

848
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:19.039
change or in that one case,
what was that, Luke eight twenty seven,

849
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:26.520
what was it again? Yeah?
Uh, yeah, Luke where it's

850
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:29.520
two men and a bad You mean
now that where they added the entire verse,

851
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:35.720
that last verse about slang. Oh, yes, so I lost my

852
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:42.239
change there, meant to write it
down. It's definitely not eight. Yeah,

853
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:46.039
it's uh, maybe it's one,
right, Luke, nineteen twenty seven.

854
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:49.720
All right, thank you, thank
you for an entire verse to be

855
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:57.239
added that's powerful and scary at the
same time. Right, some have changed,

856
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:01.279
others have been added. There's there's
new places, new new uh names.

857
01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:08.000
You see a whole list of new
names in the Bible that are completely

858
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:12.000
unfamiliar. I'll give you give you
the list. Jeremy Jeremiah is now listed

859
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:16.439
as Jeremy. Noah is no e
Asher is Asser. Joseiah is shown in

860
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:27.119
is Os. Debucannezzar is now Nebuchadrezzer. Uh Sham is Sam, Gideon is

861
01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:32.479
Gadon, Neptilli is Neptilim. John
the Baptist is John Baptist. Elijah is

862
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:40.720
Delias, John is Joe, Bussis, Isaiah is assaias, Timothy is Timotheus,

863
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.399
Manassa is man asses He from his
Joseph, Zebulon is Zebu Lawn and

864
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:53.399
Boas my favorite is Booze. Now
when we're when we ask the church leaders

865
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:57.960
who I have unlimited respect for,
because I've been one, I don't.

866
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:02.079
I don't have but acts to grind. But their answers are cockamabe. Okay,

867
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:06.840
we're like, Look, in Matthew
twenty four thirty seven, the King

868
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:13.600
James New Testament translates Noah's name as
NOI. Well, then in Second Peter

869
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:19.079
two five, the same New Testament, it translates it as Noah. Now,

870
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:23.680
what we're told is the reason it's
translated Noe John is because it's a

871
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:29.359
transliteration from the original. Well,
first of all, no, okay,

872
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.279
all my life, no Noah was
not Noe. This is brand new,

873
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:39.560
and we're all freaked out nobody's in
our Bible. But let's just go with

874
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:45.560
the commentary thing. Why didn't the
translators translate it Noah or Knowe in both

875
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:48.720
places. And so then somebody I
said this on a live stream, and

876
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:55.399
somebody put a post like, well, the writers of the New Testament,

877
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:59.560
we're writing to the Jews and Matthew
and not Well. I sent that question

878
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:04.039
to my friend Paul Graftonholt, and
he said, dougs, that's horrendous exegesus.

879
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.880
He said, there's no way it
would be the same in both.

880
01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:14.720
So we have these glaring anomalies that
have no explanation, and the only impast

881
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.439
to accepting this is your doctrine that
it can't change. Once that's been addressed,

882
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:24.960
I mean, a ten year old
concedence's happening. There's female angels in

883
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:29.840
the Bible now Zachariah five to nine. Now it doesn't actually say they're angels,

884
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:33.399
but listen to this. Then I
then lifted I. I can't even

885
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:40.279
read. The syntax is so garbled. Now then lifted I up mine eyes

886
01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:45.560
and looked, and behold, there
came out two women, and the wind

887
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:48.199
was in their wings, for they
had wings like the wings of a stork.

888
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:56.279
And they lifted up the efa between
the earth and the heaven. Well,

889
01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:00.840
all of my Christian life in the
ministry on the platform. I have

890
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:05.720
personally been in probably two hundred churches
traveling through music ministry. So I'm not

891
01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:11.640
a benchwarmer, Okay, I'm I'm
in there right, And never did I

892
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:18.880
ever hear any other viewpoint that the
Bible teaches men angels have always been represented

893
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:24.479
as male in the Bible. So
if this was in here, even if

894
01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:28.560
it's vague, right it doesn't say
female angels, I wouldn't I would have

895
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:30.800
known about it, and so would
about a million other people. And but

896
01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:36.319
now it's there, and and so
you know, you're just you're gonna have

897
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:43.359
to deal with this because it is
very disruptive. There's no question. It's

898
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:48.720
an It's a doctrinal adam bombm and
you know, but that's how God rolls.

899
01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:55.199
Whenever you read about revivals. One
of the hallmarks of the revival is

900
01:12:55.359 --> 01:13:01.479
that the control grid gets exploded.
You know, your ministry schedule goes out

901
01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:05.840
the window. You know, it's
normally greet the people two fast songs,

902
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:11.840
you have announcements, three medium too
too slow, and then you have the

903
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:15.880
offer tory and then a thirty two
minute messenger. Everybody's out by eleven fifty

904
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.640
five. Right, yeah, that
that I'll tell you that that that is

905
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:23.039
my biggest pet pee. When preachers
talking, he looks at his watching he

906
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.880
says, I need to wrap it
up because it's it's eleven fifty five,

907
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.760
just like, oh, my goodness, if I did that in the military.

908
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.560
Because the role in the military is
you trained to task, not to

909
01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:38.479
time, and we're talking about eternity. That should that should be the most

910
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:43.319
important thing. If you're more worried
about a football game than you know,

911
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:47.359
salvation, then we've got some problems, right, And for many of us,

912
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:51.560
this has been the greatest thing George
to happen to our relationship with him,

913
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:58.399
because we realized that we had become
pharaceuticals ourselves. So we started to

914
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:01.000
treat the Bible. You know,
initially it was a fiery love affair,

915
01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:04.880
but then over time you start to
treat it like a self help book.

916
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:09.560
Like, you know, you've got
problems in your life, you get depression,

917
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:13.920
you've got battles with suck, and
so you think, oh, the

918
01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.800
reason I have problems is because I
don't have enough information, and so you

919
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:21.560
start going to the Bible to get
more information to fix your problems. But

920
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:28.600
that isn't what the Bible's role is. It's all relational. It's a prayer

921
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:32.520
book, it's a it's a doorway
to him. And unless you approach it

922
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:38.399
that way, you know, it
becomes the letter killeth and the spirit giveth

923
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:42.600
life. And a lot of us
fell into that, and you know,

924
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:47.600
it's become an idol in a sense, because it's very easy to substitute head

925
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:53.199
knowledge for repenting of your wickedness.
You know, you know you resent your

926
01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:56.279
mom and your dad beat you with
a hammer and you hate his guts.

927
01:14:56.359 --> 01:15:00.800
You know, well that's no,
you can't. You can't have forgiveness or

928
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:05.199
lust, or you're stealing things.
You're you're you know, you're you're on

929
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:10.239
a tear with the with the chemicals, right, You're you're hitting that booze

930
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:14.399
pretty hard and you know it's wrong, and you're showing up at church and

931
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:16.600
Bible study though, right, So
hey, God knows I'm in the game.

932
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:25.159
No, no, you can't take
the Bible as a substitute for repentance,

933
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:30.319
because God said, you know,
I don't need sacrifice, I need

934
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:32.399
to contrite heart. That's what I'm
looking for. And so this is the

935
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:36.720
wake up call final wake up call
to purify the bride and say, look,

936
01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:43.560
my children. You know I'm not
I'm not advocating that we we depart

937
01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:46.479
from the scripture. I'm just reporting
on what's happening and trying to formulate a

938
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:53.239
response because we gotta we gotta respond
to this somehow. And so what I

939
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:58.760
am saying is that there is there
is a need in this hour to return

940
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.720
to our first love, not to
abandon the scriptures, but to know that's

941
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:06.319
in there and begin to have a
discerning eye when you're reading it so you're

942
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:11.479
not let astray. That's all.
Just don't turn a blind eye to it

943
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:15.159
because it's a hard thing, because
that's what most people are doing, indeed,

944
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.239
and the most important thing. And
again this isn't a salvation issue,

945
01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:23.560
which is the most important thing to
remind people, but in your eyes it

946
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:29.279
is. It's an extremely important issue. And there is something at a higher

947
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:32.600
level that has gone on here and
made a lot of interesting points. And

948
01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:38.079
it was there anything that we haven't
touched on that you wanted to mention?

949
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:42.920
Yeah, I have an appeal,
Yes, sure, the believer. What

950
01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:46.600
we're trying to do at this point
is to bring this topic into the city

951
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:54.279
gate. For seven years, we
have been brushed aside. We've been ignored

952
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:59.039
and marginalized and even attacked. And
well, we can't get church leaders to

953
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.319
even come on the live streams and
talk with us. So if you are

954
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:05.560
a church leader, or you can
put me in touch with ones that will

955
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:09.720
just come and talk to us.
Okay, if we're deceived, like you

956
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:14.760
believe, I have five thousand subscribers
that you can reach with one conversation,

957
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:18.840
come and share how what we're saying
is impossible, and then be willing to

958
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:24.960
have a discourse with us. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna try to disparage

959
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:30.199
you, Okay, Timothy says.
The goal of our instruction is loved from

960
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:36.239
a pure heart. However, what
we aren't going to allow anymore is for

961
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:42.840
the church leaders to act as gatekeepers. And because they're not your property,

962
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:46.159
those are my brothers and sisters that
you have been given the watch over.

963
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:51.680
And when we approach pastors and they
refuse to carve out thirty minutes to look

964
01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:57.800
at our research, we then post
on their channel a list of things like

965
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.159
I just shared with you, and
we share with our heart is broken.

966
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:02.920
We tried to talk to the pastor. He wouldn't talk to us. So

967
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:06.319
we're giving this to you directly.
That's what Matthew eighteen teaches us. If

968
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:10.680
her brothers and sin, you go
to him, and if he doesn't accept

969
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:15.239
you, you escalate. And so
I'm asking for the church to step out

970
01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:19.399
into the open and meet with us
in public discourse and talk about this.

971
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:24.279
And so if you can help me
in my email is please wake up or

972
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:29.840
else at gmail dot com send me
an email. We'll have a conversation.

973
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.439
We'll get some pastors on here,
and we'll see if we're all nuts.

974
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:39.880
We're definitely not biblically a litter because
I got Bible scholars now that are with

975
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:45.439
me. So you can't say that
I'm definitely not a wolf and sheep's clothing,

976
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:49.800
because I'm a wolf. If I'm
not a sheep's clothing, I'm out

977
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:55.399
on the open right and I'm not
unreachable. I'm the one asking for you

978
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:58.319
to come out and show me that
I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, I'm

979
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:03.439
willing to be instructed. Did So
that's my plea. My plea is for

980
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:10.439
help for me to get this conversation
out into the public because it's like pulling

981
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:14.960
teeth. We're reaching out to pastors
every day and they won't give us a

982
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:20.119
time of day. They refuse.
It doesn't surprise me. Are you still

983
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:25.159
doing the Friday night at seven pm
the Truth or Fellowship? Yeah? Yeah,

984
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:28.479
we have a we have a series
of calls we do. We have

985
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:32.479
a meeting on Mondays at two for
people with addictions on Free Conference Call dot

986
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:36.479
com and the past words wake Up
or Else. And then Fridays at seven

987
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:41.239
we have a fellowship for just just
to hang out where people that are in

988
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:45.640
the Truther movement can go and be
with other Truthers and just talk about what's

989
01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:50.560
going on and not be alone.
And then I do it training on Mondays

990
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:57.359
at eight on becoming an American state
national and freeing yourself from the tyranny of

991
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:03.319
the corporate governments. And then you
know, we do live streams Wake Up

992
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:10.439
or Else on the YouTube pretty pretty
regularly. Now that's great. And by

993
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:12.960
the way, folks just go to
his website wake Up or Else dot com.

994
01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:16.119
The link will be in the show
description all the times to the Recovery

995
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:23.359
Fellowship, the Truth Or Fellowship,
the Free Conference Call website, the passwords.

996
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:30.479
There's affidavits, there's the link to
his books resources. There's a ton

997
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:32.760
of knowledge if you're interested, and
all the links to his Facebook, Twitter,

998
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:38.239
Rumble and YouTube channels are on the
website as well. Again, all

999
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:43.840
that will be in the show description. And John, it's been a fascinating

1000
01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:45.840
ninety minutes, and I'll give you
the last word, sir. I just

1001
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:49.640
want to thank you, George,
because I know what this stakes for someone

1002
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:56.880
with your reputation to be willing to
to have someone come on and talk about

1003
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.800
this topic. It's very polarized,
and so I just want to command you

1004
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:04.720
and appreciate you for being willing to
even have this conversation on your podcast.

1005
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:09.560
I think it's outrageous that we can't
get folks who even talk about us.

1006
01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:13.640
So thank you, Thank you so
much. So as my golden rule as

1007
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:16.800
the truth, there is question everything
everything, and I always leave it to

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the listeners to decide whether or not
it's it's viable or not. I just

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bring people on, they present the
evidence, and it's up to the listeners.

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And I don't think I've ever said
no to someone who asked if I'm

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on the program. It's just I've
gone down too many rabbit holes. That

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why I first thought, this is
ridiculous and everybody knows what I'm talking about.

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And then it turns out that you
know there was something to it.

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And again, even during the course
of the last ninety minutes, if there's

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one nugget that we happen to discuss
helped someone connect to another uh you know,

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connect another dot, then we did
something. And the most important thing

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again is uh salvation. Right,
this isn't as salvation issue, but in

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your eyes, it's a big issue. But I always like to end with

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you know, it's the most important
thing as Christians, as we really we

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let our followers of Christ. I
like to say, actually, is that

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the most important thing is make sure
you admit you're a sinner and you ask

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Jesus into your heart and try to
spread the word like we do in the

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truth or community. Yes, super
interview, George Super Super, Thank you

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so much, well, thank you, best of luck. And I've got

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so many people love your book,
The Conspiracy Theorist Survival Guide. Great,

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great book. I've gotten so much
feedback, so I know a lot of

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listeners out there are going through similar
things that you have done. And you

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wrote it from a first person perspective
because you've dealt with it of extreme level.

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And wish you all the best,
sir, and look forward to you

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back down the road. Yeah,
the audio version on the book will be

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up on Amazon sometime next week,
so if you want to get the audio

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will be on audible and iTunes and
on on Amazon so you can listen to

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it. Did you do the the
audio? No, actually paid someone to

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to the narration because it's it's a
good bit of work. Wow. Yeah,

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very interesting. Well, best of
luck. Thank you so much,

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George, God blessed. Thank you
guys for listening. I appreciate it absolutely

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For John, I'm George God bless
you all, and keep your head on

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this webble and until the next time, my friends, we will see you.

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