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Welcome to the Paranormal Project Radio Show. Journey with us through mystical realms to

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a world of the unexplained. If
you're ready, take a deep breath and

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let curiosity be your guide. And
now here are your hosts, Spirit medium

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Scott Allen and Christina Bowen, the
Green Witch of Tennessee. Hello, everyone,

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and welcome back to the Paranormal Project
Radio Show. Christina, how are

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you, my friend? I'm great. How are you doing today? Scott?

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Good? You know it's funny because
I haven't talked to you this weekend

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like I normally do. I have
been up to my eyeballs and stuff,

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and it's so good to have this
time to kind of chat with you.

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I know, I get caught it
up. I'm excited. We're gonna have

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a fun night tonight. So I
know you know that I was in Scotland

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last while, not this past summer, the summer before, so it would

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have been July of twenty twenty two, and it was myself and Andrea Parrin

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and Julie, my former co host, and some other friends had all been

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in Scotland and we met two friends
there and we got to investigate with us

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some pretty cool places So we're gonna
take a little trip down memory lane tonight

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and I think you're gonna like them. We're gonna have a good time.

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They brought some evidence, they brought
some videos and clips, and we are

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going to talk about haunted places,
which is really what I love to do

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most. So, without further ado, please bring my friends Mikey Thompson and

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Cheryl Plumb onto the show. There
you are, Hi, guys, how

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are you. It's so good to
see you again. It's great to see

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you. This is guns Yeah,
because you guys hadn't met before. Yeah,

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where were you in front of Mikey? Is that a real place or

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is that Scotland. I'm at Balgoni
Castle. That is Balgoni Castle. So

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we had an opportunity to go there, which was really great. Yeah.

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We actually had the most amazing investigation
there after the tour. Yeah yeah,

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wait to hear. I know.
We went and we spent some time and

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we got a few little things,
but I'm sure after the fact was great.

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We would have loved to have been
able to spend some time there with

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you guys, but let's got a
lot of things with you. I'm ready

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to go back. I'm definitely ready
to go back. I think there was

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a lot I would have loved to
have done and didn't get a chance to

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do. There were things I was
hoping to see and investigate that we didn't

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get to see and investigate. So
I'm ready to get a trip back there

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and maybe keep it a little casual
this time, you know, not thirty

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five or fifty people, just you
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does it's harder to get in and
out of places and and that kind of

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thing. I think it's great when
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you know, to be able to
go and experience some of these things.

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So I really love some of these
photos you brought, and we're going

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to put some of these up on
the screen. But tell me a little

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bit about Scotland and what was your
favorite part of that whole experience that we

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shared together. Oh wow, I
mean besides meeting us, you know what

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I mean? Because pig just one
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I don't and I don't know why, but I absolutely fell in love with

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the town of Kouros. I love
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was drawn to it. And I
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we found this old cemetery. It's
just the whole town for me was amazing.

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But I got to tell you,
we started out with a bang and

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earth and uh, and that's where
you know, one of the most one

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of the most how do I say
this, Scott, It was a a

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moment that we shared there during your
live reading. I would say, for

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me, it was a very I
needed that kind of a thing. And

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we can talk about that if you
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yeah, whatever you like. Yeah, yeah, in terms of the reading

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itself, is that and the message
it was the message there that came through

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I mean, Cheryl, also Kat. There was a lot of us that

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got to experience that, but for
me personally, I had never it was

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it was confirmation for me. And
and so that was really uh, you

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know, being there with you and
and that time that we spent there together.

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For me, that moment was just
it was a beautiful thing and I

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and I'm so thankful for that,
and I'm glad that we we had that

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opportunity to sit and do a reading
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So yeah, one of my favorite
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Castle because we had like such a
touching thing happen during our investigation, which

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was gone by the dark zone.
So it's there forever for me to go

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back and look at. But Eric
Castle, I mean, between the stuff

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that happened in our investigation and your
reading again you, I was not very

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I was not super open to thinking
somebody would come through for me. That's

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why when you started saying things and
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I didn't. I didn't get it
right away. So so that was kind

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of that was a new experience that
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see this is how it is for
me, like coming and I don't even

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remember I do my grandfather I am. I am like full I'm going crazy

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goosebumps over here. So like my
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about this this little man with you
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My grandfather was a ballroom answer and
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maybe five eight a little taller.
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saying that stuff, and I was
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in the back of my mind like
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of course I'm not you know,
I'm not thinking. I'm not thinking it

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was for me, you know,
until you you kind of like made it

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obvious, like, yeah, that's
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know. It was really interesting because
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House experience and when she was there, and when she was talking, the

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woman that came through for Mikey was
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and and I thought, man,
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is, but I felt like she
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early. And which was really funny
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cool in there. That makes a
huge difference if I'm doing a reading or

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a gallery like that in a place
that has a lot of energy that's haunted,

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I just feel like the vibrations better
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I remember that place. I don't
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the room. There was a woman
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opposite side. So if I'm looking
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Whoever it was on the left,
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Yeah, Kat was over on that
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there was a boy and a girl
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and I remember this, and I
remember that one of them had passed first

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and waited for the other one,
and it was all like In fact,

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I remember saying to her, I
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back rope, that's where they are. And she raised her hand she said,

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it's like that's who it is.
They're right here with me. I

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mean, that was really bizarre.
And it isn't often that that level of

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detail will come through on a on
a reading, that I'll know exactly where

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they're sitting and that person. For
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mean, obviously you made it.
You made an impression clearly. I've I've

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been in readings before and like,
I'm the tech guy. I'm the you

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know, I put a camera up
and I film it guy. I don't.

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I don't. I haven't explored all
of that side yet. But so

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and I didn't feel like in anybody
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to that was specifically for them.
For some reason, that woman that you

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described reminded me of that patient and
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head once you once you described her, Scott like the hair her. She

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was very passionate about her right,
and they have red hair you described she

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had beautiful red hair. And now, so that woman, out of all

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the patients that I've come in contact
with every day for years, this woman

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would not let go. It like
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why towards I even waited towards the
end, like hey, Scott, could

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this be a thing? But why
why would she be in Scotland? Or

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why would you know what I mean? So I had so many questions,

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but but that just felt to me
like that was her, and and and

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and I've always wondered, I've always
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stayed with people while they were passing
and played music for them or talked to

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them or held their hand. I
have just you know, in the back

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of your mind, you wonder did
it even help, Like was it effective

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at all? You know? So
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she she you know, heard you. And the fact that I was telling

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her what her family was asking to
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mind blowingly like emotional for me because
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the strength to just keep doing that. You know that's the now that's I

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mean, that's always been a thing
for me, But now that I know

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or I feel like they know,
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So that was just such a great
experience for me and was going back

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groundbreaking for me too, because that
was the first time that I actually had

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some kind of a contact that was
meant for me in one of these group

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readings. I've done group readings before
with big name psychics, and nobody's ever

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like reached out to me. So
so that right there opened me up.

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I never spent as much time with
a medium, you know, thus far

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as I did with you. So
and now the like, the more I

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open up and the more I pay
attention, I'm seeing you know, I'm

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seeing the third and the process for
me, Scott, if I don't if

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you don't mind me sharing, I
I'm very observant. And so I noticed

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like there was at one point we
even delayed this reading a little bit because

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there was so much coming through.
You were overwhelmed. Not well I'm not

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I'm not saying you were overwhelmed,
but what I'm saying is there was some

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point I think that you remember you
had to take a break and step back,

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because it was just it was very
much you were you were affected by

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it. So we we actually came
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it was just a lot and I
and to see the process for somebody that

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does this and to watch how it
affects you and so that you know,

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so when we're in that room and
we're doing this and knowing that you're tuned

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in now and whatever's coming is coming
and there's no stopping it. I think

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the craziest thing for me about this
whole thing was we were filming it.

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Yeah, oh my god, yes, video of it, yep, we

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love They lost the video. The
videos gone, the videos video it was

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before I'm getting goosebus right now,
I forget. I have them to the

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video right up to the beginning.
It stopped right when I started reading,

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went right through the whole gallery and
then picked up where it ended. The

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whole thing is gone. Yeah,
the whole thing is gone. But the

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recorder never stopped reding. It never
stopped recording. Barbara had the recorder and

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she was going around and it never
stopped. And it picked up before and

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after, but not in the middle. Now, tell me that isn't just

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bizarre. And you know what else
is strange too. And I remember this

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now because some of the details they
kind of go after a while, But

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I remember with her one of the
when a spirit shows me identifying features,

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right, whether it's a shoe or
a foot or a hand. You know,

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if they show me a hand,
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I don't know what, but there's
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bring about It was her hair.
It wasn't just that it was red.

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Is that it was like she had
BedHead. It's like she needed to be

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brushed. And I felt like that
was really significant. And you had said

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afterwards that you brushed her hair for
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holy crap. Well, the family, the family wasn't able to come,

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and the sister said, she loves
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hair. She asked us, would
you please make sure that her hair is

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brushed and washed and just and you
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her hair. So we did.
We would when you know, we turn

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her and bathe her and clean her, we would brush her hair and you

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know, lay it on her chest
or whatever. But she had beautiful hair,

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and so that was so important to
the family that we just keep that

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going and not let her just lie
there and get BedHead or put it up

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in a ponytail or whatever. So
we did that, and so that was

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another thing for me when you,
you know, when you were describing them,

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like, I just kept seeing her
and I kept I'm like, can

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this be her? Can you know? So I kind of asked you if

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you remember I pull, I'm like, God, I gotta throw this at

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you, and you know, I'm
a fool, But you were like,

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that's her, that's her. Once
you made the connection, and they usually

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give me this kind of like thing. They give me this feeling that I

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don't usually get if I'm not doing
a reading. It's not just goosebumps.

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I get it and I don't know. I can't explain it. I don't

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know. But that place was hopping, and I think the vibration and the

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energy in it kind of enhanced everything, really and truly because there's so much

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history. It was so old and
had battles and so much, so much

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history. Even in that little session
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If you remember, Andrea was picking
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young boy. She kept getting the
number twenty three or thirty two, remember,

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And then the younger people in the
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it was just so charged. Everybody
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as well. And so, yeah, it was just one thing after another,

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and then we were getting you know, validation with EVPs and equipment going

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off. Rick with his K two
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I mean, it was just amazing
property. So and I got pushed

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down. I mean I didn't actually
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room. I was standing in the
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walk in the door. There was
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I was standing on the inside doorway
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I was a boom. I was
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wasn't that. I don't remember if
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remember. I think it was before
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oh, okay, yeah, come
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It was you was setting up maybe
perhaps, yeah, yeah, I

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think so. Hey, Cheryl Nancy
wants to know. Have you ever been

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read by a psychic before? I
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but I generally don't, you know, ask my friends to do that

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sort of thing. But I have
had two amazing people do terror readings on

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me. The first one was this
beautiful man named Ken Boggle. He just

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had a TV show come out,
Living for the Dead, and he he

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nailed me. He nailed me.
He was like, you know, do

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you have any idea you're an EmPATH
and he just went on, you know,

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telling me how to how to get
rid of the bad energy that I'm

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hanging onto and all this wonderful stuff. But and the second gal was in

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Tombstone. But I am always I
was always open to hearing things. But

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again, if my friends are psychic, I'm not one to be like,

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hey, what do you know about
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doesn't really work that way at least for

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me. Right, if I know
you and I know things about you,

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I can't I can't bring it through. Like if we did another reading together,

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if we were all together again going
back to earth Castle, I would

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question whether that person coming through was
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because I know about her and I
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almost like I need to know nothing, you know. And I wanted to

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be very picky. I don't,
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going to every you know, tearror
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for questions. I was. I
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old before I got my first tarro
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I really it was the right time
and it was the right person. I

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want to stick a photo up here
of earth Castle because I know you sent

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one. This is such a beautiful
place and earth Castle is a hotel on

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top of it. It was closed. We weren't able to stay there,

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sadly. We were, you know, stuck in the roadside motel up the

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street a little bit. But but
the castle was amazing and I don't know

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if they're doing work and they're what
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to be able to use it and
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Yeah, and and do the gallery, so it was really great. It's

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such a beautiful, beautiful building.
Yeah, there was a lot of construction

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going on and the the and that
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you know. And right behind Earth
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to the English. And it's rumored
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they took him to London because they
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and the Scots were in control of
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later came and burned it down after
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But that's part of that. And
this is all information that we got from

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some of the locals there. So
yeah, records don't don't don't stick around

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after the thirteen hundreds and whatnot.
But so these are some of the stories

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from the locals there at that place. But if even so, that would

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be you know, I mean,
there's so much history there, Like Cheryl

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was saying that it's parts of the
original structure there, A lot of it

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was would but some downstairs Yeah wow, yeah, No, that is not

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the place, Nancy, we were
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We were up in the Highlands.
Do you remember seeing that photo.

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We were in the Highlands and we
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big long table, yes, and
I can't think of the name of the

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end. It was kind of an
old stage coaching, stage coaching, stage

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coaching, yep. And we were
all at dinner, yes, and I'm

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sitting there and it's this black thing
hanging over me. Did you see that?

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The blackness? I did the back
yes, yes, yes, yes,

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right at the end. It was
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And then I actually went grew ahead
in there. What's that? I was

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sorry, I mean interrupt, but
I think you're talking about that. We

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took the big group photo, yes, yes, and the most amazing.

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It was fantastic. And then they
woke me up, got me out of

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bed because they felt they needed to
do reiki on me. I'm like,

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guys, I'm fine, you know, I am not possessed. It's it's

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okay, it's okay. I overed
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it was really great. So let's
see what else do we have. You

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want to look at a few more
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Friars, that's the one. Yep. We got Lori Dorsey. We got

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wife in the back, yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's who that is

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yeh, his wife yep. And
Mikey. That was great, so right,

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where were we shore. I think
if you right behind Laurie, I

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believe that this is where the uh
the inspiration for Harry Potter, some of

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the characters came from the headstone.
The character okay, yes, yes,

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yes, yeah, I know where
you are now. Yeah, because jk

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uh you know, I hung out
in there in Edinburgh. But apparently on

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the other side of the Grave Friars
here is a school and she used to

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walk her daughter to the school and
then she would walk around Edinburgh and cruise

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through the cemetery for inspiration. Things
like that, again from the locals that

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are proud. But uh yeah,
some of the names on the in the

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in the books are very similar to
some of the ones there at Grave Friar.

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M That was really cool. Unfortunately
I did not add. I did

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not add the photo where Mikey had
his wand next show, next showise yeah,

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or the tree that looked like a
butt. I also think that was

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over it. I think that that
was there too. That was there was

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there too? Yeah, yeah,
And I walked by and we kept looking

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back and we're like, that's a
butt. We got to go back rights.

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So what happened to you over in
the jail? Infrairiy jail. What

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happened there, Well, we did
the daytime kind of investigation and we kind

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of branched off with the cousins,
right, Mikey and Uh we were with

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Rick McCollum's cousins, so we just
all of a sudden, we're all family.

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But we went into a jail cell
and we started getting all this coinciding

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evidence. We kept getting murder,
murder, and then we started getting name

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on the FAsMA box. Was it
the FAsMA box? Oh, it was

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a negraphonic app It was a negraphonic
Okay, so we were like, okay,

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you know, maybe we can get
a name. So we get a

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name, and Mikey goes and runs
to the cabinet that has a database of

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all the people that were in that
jail and their crimes, and he's looking

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up this, you know, these
people's names, and we had gotten an

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e VP as well that said,
you know, i'd said, you know,

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what was your crime? What did
you do? And it was unmistakably

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murder. So he was able to
go through and find there's goods bumps again,

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he was able to go and find
a person by the name of I

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don't even remember what the name was
Owen. Yes, Owen Owen was in

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there for murder. Yeah starting point. Yeah, like Thursday, the name

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came through on the on the necraphonics
app and so we we said Owen Owen.

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Okay, So I ran back over
there. I was typing in Owens

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and I think I pulled up like
four and the first one was a thirty

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four year old that was put in
for murder. So, I mean that

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was just that was very cool.
But again, what we like is taking

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all the different tech because one thing
by itself, you know that that doesn't

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that doesn't impress me much. But
you start adding the EVP saying murder the

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name on the necrophonic app that matches
the database, and I mean it was

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that whole place was intense during the
day. Yeah, yeah, it was.

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It's just as fun. I was
just gonna say, ghosts don't know.

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The lights are right, But for
the most part I like the dark

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because you know, my senses are
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So like, I'm very audio driven, so that's when I get, you

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know, I noticed my best audio. But yeah, during the day,

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even with all the two distraction,
all that stuff, and there were a

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lot of people there. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I mean it was

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great, right, And what's that
I was to add animals to the mix.

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Some of the other had gone off
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We're having experiences too. I mean
they were hearing stuff up upstairs above

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them, and it was just it
was going on all around us. Yeah,

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upstairs. We even had you know, my rampod going off and like

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all these other things happening. I
got it all on video. But again

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it's, you know, thirty minutes
of things happening. How do you how

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do you cut down to just one? Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible,

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really, it's incredible. Yeah,
and I love that. I wish we'd

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had more of that while we were
there. The history, it's so much

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history. Yeah. And the other
thing, I'm just looking back because it's

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like a little memory, you know, a trip down memory lane. I

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just want to see Grayfriars and Infrariry. Oh, Roslyn Chapel, All right,

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that is a really that is a
really cool picture. Let me grab

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that here, Rosalind Chappell. I
mean you would remember that from Da Vinci

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code. I was about to ask
if it was the one and the same.

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It is the one and the same
and if you look closely, the

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author of the da Vinci Code.
No, he's not in the photo,

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but there is one author there.
She is right right sort of the there's

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two authors. Rick McCollum also has
a that's right one. Very recently wrote

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about our shenanigans in Scotland, and
Mike wrote in the book you did.

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So if you look at Jay Blumkey
with his arm up waving, he's the

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guy waving in the center. And
if you look to the right of him,

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there's Andrea, and then a couple
to the right is Rick. It's

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so hard to see. Hey,
guys, excuse me one second. I'm

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sorry. I'll be right back.
You go ahead. Yeah, And I

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don't know. I'm sure you guys
are I know. I hate when that

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happens. You know. I'll tell
you before he comes back. This is

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really interesting, Cheryl, because you
made me think of something when and I've

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shown I think i've shown this to
Christina before we were in you're a bit

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of the Shanley Hotel. I know
it's on the op post. So if

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you guys ever come down here,
we need to plan a trip to the

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Shanley. But there was a serial
killer. There was a serial killer who

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lived there on the third floor a
long time ago. It was a boarding

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house. Wasn't a good guy and
the story was his name was Adam and

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and so you know, I turned
on the necrophonic and I said, is

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this Adam and clear as day you
can hear a man speak over and just

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say I'm Adam. Oh did I
did I show you that? Let me

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just I'm gonna show it. You
give me one Randolph County. It was

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cool. It was cool. I
mean, it's really uh, let's see

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uh paranormal project. Because it is. It is on our YouTube channel.

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We're planning our day to the Shanley
Hotel. Mikey. We got to go,

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Okay, I'm going to show you
this because it's like the coolest thing.

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You just made me think of it
when you were talking about let me

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take this photo off, when you
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murder guy. So this guy was
a serial killer and it was It's it's

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incredible. Hang on one second,
I'm going to share this and I want

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to go here check this out.
Mm hmm. Hello there, Wow,

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that's as clear as it you got
it going on the background, pick.

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Yeah, it's crazy. I mean
wow, that's the kind of stuff that

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makes you go all right now,
that's yeah. And then when you pair

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it with you know, the history
and other things that happened, that's what

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gets my goat right there. I
love it. I'm curious what brought you

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guys into the paranormal field. Everybody
has an origin story. When it comes

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to that, I'm going to go
first, because Mikey story is like touching.

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I'm gonna cry again. I started
it was a whole fun thing for

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my family. I lived in a
small town. Wasn't a lot to do,

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so my mom would take us out. We would just go check out

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abandoned buildings and you know, run
around cemeteries with flashlights. It was a

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fun thing for us. And we
were always very spooky watching things. So

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once the paranormal became, you know, more mainstream, strange escapes started having

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like weekend events. So I started
taking my sister and we like had a

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bonding thing happened. So we just
started doing all these investigations and I ended

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up meeting you know, the Dark
Zone and going and then meeting Mikey at

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the LA Police Museum. Funny because
we had a misconnection at the Queen Mary

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the same time we both met Andrea
Parrin for the first time. We were

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both there, but we did not
meet, so weird. Yeah, well

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I got into the paranormal. The
big thing that happened, long story short,

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in two thousand and two, my
daughter drown in the pool sixteen months

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old, and she was as sisterly
for twenty six minutes, and I did

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CPR and took her to the hospital
I worked at, and we got her

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back and she's she's in school for
prerex for nursing. Everything's fine. But

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it was after that incident when we
got home from the drowning, we were

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we were in the hospital for about
a month, and we started to having

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some really extreme paranormal things happening at
home. She in particular, was was

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tortured by this thing she called little
Man, and so we would she would

410
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:17,519
wake up having night terrors and I
would wake up having night terrors, and

411
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,640
we spent I spent a lot of
time trying to figure out what was happening

412
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,400
to her. I didn't know if
it was related to the drowning, if

413
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,440
something attached itself when she came back, or I'm you know, one day,

414
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,240
I'm a normal guy working a job
and everything. Now I'm you know,

415
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,440
thrown into this paranormal world and fighting
something I can't see, so and

416
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:44,599
it was very real. It was
very real. So I my journey,

417
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,400
and you know, for me,
this is therapy. Yeah. I get

418
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:56,000
to meet people that that have similar
stories or not, but that don't want

419
00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,640
to feel like they're crazy, and
they want validation for things. And I

420
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,880
think it's important that we talk about
this stuff and to have a family,

421
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:12,559
a paranormal family. Really that that
we've built here is is therapeutic and and

422
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:18,079
it's necessary. I can come to
Scott and Cheryl and I can tell this

423
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,799
story and you won't think I'm crazy, Whereas I wouldn't go to work and

424
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,880
tell the doctors I work with this
because I don't want to be you know,

425
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,599
I thought of this right, and
then it's not that they would treat

426
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:32,599
me that way, but it's just
that's how it That's how it is when

427
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,839
you go through something like that.
So for me, my journey continues because

428
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:41,960
I really just I like trying to
help people that are living, and I

429
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:47,480
like to try to help people that
have passed and and hopefully someone even if

430
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,880
it's one person in all these years
that has seen something that we've done or

431
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,079
or you know, had a similar
story that's that's had some kind of validation

432
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,039
for themselves or some kind of relief
from this, then then it's a win.

433
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:04,119
So that's that's why I'm still doing
this, and I think that's why

434
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,759
we get along so well, because
I've been able to learn so much from

435
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:13,359
Mikey as far as like the empathetic
part of us, like what can we

436
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,359
do to help you? We're coming
into this space. We're not trying to

437
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,119
taunt the spirits. We're trying to
say, hey, do you need to

438
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,960
talk, Like is there something you
want to say? Can we help you?

439
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:23,559
Is there anything you need to do? Here come the goosebumps again.

440
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:28,920
And we've had some amazing experiences where
it feels like we really did get to

441
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,559
help, even in a small way, even even if things go back to

442
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:37,400
normal, we've been able to help
some of these unseen people. That's a

443
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,880
beautiful thing though, it really is
to actually be able to help people,

444
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,039
and one understand they're not crazy,
right, yeah, right. Everybody assumes

445
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:52,880
you still start talking about ghosts and
they're either going to go hyper religious on

446
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,160
you or you're a nutjob, right, yeah, right, And I'm so

447
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000
grateful we've got an in between place
now, he said, safe space where

448
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,000
we can talk about these things.
Yeah. I love the fact that I

449
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,519
can tell Scott this story about this
patient that I had and he doesn't think,

450
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:10,720
you know, he didn't say,
Mikey, there's no way that this

451
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,440
patient of yours is going to travel
thousands of miles across the sea to be

452
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,640
here today to have this event.
Maybe that was the only way she could

453
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,000
get there and tell me that she
heard me, or or she's been there

454
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,400
all along and you just didn't notice, right, and maybe she's just around

455
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,079
you and that it really there is
no space in time anyway, so you

456
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:34,839
know, not to negate the fact
that she was in Scotland. But I

457
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,279
but I don't know that it's all
that complicated for them either. I think

458
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,640
they're just really a thought away all. I totally agree. I don't think

459
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,960
there is time and space once you
know. But you know, I really

460
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,599
think too about like what you do
for work and how that changes you.

461
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,319
And you know you said that you
know you because of the reading that we

462
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,839
shared together, you have a better
understanding of how the things you do for

463
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,720
those who are less fortunate, who
are dying, who are sick. It

464
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,519
really does make a difference. And
maybe you rendered that, maybe you hoped

465
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:13,400
that, but you know, you
know, and it changes how you work

466
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,719
and you're more aware of that,
and you know, it's funny. I

467
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,079
don't know if you know this about
me. You may I don't remember,

468
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,280
but you know, I was a
funeral director for like thirty five years,

469
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,280
and I did that, which is
sort of the complete opposite of what you

470
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,440
do in a way, but it's
still caring for people. And I was

471
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:37,159
burnt out and I left, and
somehow I've found myself in this niche where

472
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:43,519
I'm still working with the grieved,
with the grieving because the grieving come in

473
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,679
and caring for the people who have
crossed, but in a different way because

474
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:51,400
I'm delivering their messages. So I
really feel like, you know, we

475
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,920
follow our life's work, we follow
our purpose, and it sticks with us.

476
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,400
And you can move things around,
move the little chest pieces, but

477
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,760
I still think at the end of
the day, you're doing what you're supposed

478
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,840
to do, and you learn and
you grow from these experiences. Yeah,

479
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,880
I was gonna you know, chime
in on you were talking about Cheryl had

480
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,960
done the readings for the first time, and I have so before Scotland.

481
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:22,360
I have a friend that sees a
reiki master in Vegas and he was out

482
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,440
visiting and I went up to visit
him and he had made an appointment and

483
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,239
asked me to go with him.
So I went and he didn't tell me

484
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,880
until we were on the way there
that he made an appointment for me too.

485
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,119
So we get there, I walk
in, I sit on the couch.

486
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:37,800
I'm quiet. I don't know what
to expect. I'm watching him do

487
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,519
his session so that I can kind
of get a feel of what's happening.

488
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:43,719
And the guy doesn't say a lot
to me, you know, he's just

489
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,000
a quiet It's a different kind of
vibe in there. And I don't do

490
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:50,199
this, so I don't know what's
happening. But when I went up for

491
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,320
my turn, I sat down and
he starts, you know, doing his

492
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,079
thing, and he goes, you're
in the medical field. And I thought

493
00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:00,800
to myself, why would you pick
that, of all all things, why

494
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,199
would you pick that? Not a
bodyguard or not a you know, a

495
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,800
truck driver, Like why medical field? And he goes, well, it's

496
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,039
more, Uh, the people that
came in with you. He said,

497
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:17,519
when you when you walked in through
the door, I was overwhelmed by the

498
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:22,880
amount of people behind you. That
and when you sat on the couch,

499
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,000
you have a crowd behind you in
my living room. And I was trying

500
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,000
to figure out what's happening here,
But I understand, Uh, it's medical

501
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,639
field. And he goes, in
long story short, he said, he

502
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:37,559
called me. He said, you're
an angel of death, and that scared

503
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,760
me initially. He said, don't
out about that. He goes, It's

504
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,400
not a bad thing. He goes, What I mean is you're a light

505
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,239
and they look for you, or
they talk about you. Hey, Mikey,

506
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:52,880
he'll help you, or whatever you're
it's a good thing. And so

507
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,000
that brought up more questions for me
than anything, because I'd always been that

508
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,800
way. Like I said, you
know, I hold a hand, I

509
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,400
hold a baby, whatever's people are
dying, that I would do what I

510
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,599
could do. But it wasn't until
last year when you had your reading and

511
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,800
she came through that it just that
was the last piece of the puzzle that

512
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,039
I needed to see. The picture
clicked and clicked and you and you helped

513
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:21,239
me do that. And I hope
that you know all your fans and listeners

514
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:28,239
and and believes behind you understand that
that's what you do, and and to

515
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,280
keep listening and absolutely, but you
know what, Mikey and I'm telling you,

516
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,599
I'm getting like all kinds of feels
tonight. I really have. It's

517
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:40,000
crazy. It's like goosebumps everywhere,
but I feel like it's me, but

518
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:44,800
it's not me. I just listen, yeah, I And you know what,

519
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,239
that's what I was told that that's
my superpower apparently is listening. Like

520
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
people like to vent to me.
And I thought it was just like,

521
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,719
oh, that's because you know,
I'm just I'm just that guy. Everybody

522
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,559
likes to vent to me. But
no, I'm a I'm a sponge,

523
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,679
Like give it to me. Whatever
whatever's bonding, just give it to me.

524
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:07,400
Impasse can soak that energy off you
go. You got to make sure

525
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,480
that you're taking care of yourself to
get rid of that and and make sure

526
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:15,920
you know what belongs to some of
somebody else, right, And that's not

527
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:22,159
easy to you know, decipher,
it's not being new, So yeah,

528
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,519
it's it really comes through for us
in these investigations like Cheryl, you know

529
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,000
she does with the living. But
when we were in BALGONI behind me and

530
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:37,000
we had that counter down in the
in the chapel, there was a you

531
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,239
know, Cheryl can feel that and
she like she we call her the audio

532
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,519
Queen, but she felt like this
was an opportunity for her to She didn't

533
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:51,440
run from the opportunity to go down
there and and meet with this entity that

534
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:57,559
the other group Scottish Paranormal and I
have had experiences with in the past.

535
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,639
She said, I got to go
in there. I'm gonna go in there,

536
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:01,360
buy my health and talk to this
guy. And I think it's because

537
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:07,280
she listened, like she said,
she's not just listening to, you know,

538
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,559
me talk about my experience, She's
listening to the environment. And she

539
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,119
went in there and she did that
and we had an amazing, you know

540
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:21,639
encounter there too. So it's we're
we kind of go in this as tech

541
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,519
geeks with everything. I buy all
the stuff I turn But everyone that I've

542
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,480
ever worked with said, Mikey,
your most important piece of equipment that you

543
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,639
bring to an investigation is you you. And we're learning that cheryln You know,

544
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,480
I think Cheryl and I are are
more open to that, and the

545
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,119
more open we are, the more
the better experiences we have. I feel

546
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,559
so much more now. I love
my toys, don't get me wrong,

547
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Please, I love it. I
know where to put them now because I'm

548
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,639
like, oh, I'm like,
I'm feeling something like I've been doing house

549
00:39:54,679 --> 00:40:00,679
cleansing with my friend, the American
witch Melissa Saint Hilaire, and like the

550
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:02,559
minute I walked into this last house, I was like, whoa, like

551
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:09,960
fat old Hollywood and I totally felt
all that energy and it's so strange to

552
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,199
me because I never had that before. But yeah, start paying. The

553
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,559
more you do it, the more
that's going to happen. But we need

554
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:25,159
people like Scott and you know,
the Andreas and the Ricks and they that

555
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:30,440
are doing this that then encourage you
to do that. Yes, it goes

556
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,639
back to that whole I don't want
to talk about it and do it because

557
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:37,079
I don't want to feel weird,
and where Scott will say no, listen,

558
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,679
listen and go to it, run
to the fire fireman, don't run

559
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,159
away from it. Like I mean, here's the thing, Mikey, you

560
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:46,880
know, like I all I when
I say all I do is listen I

561
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,920
mean, but if they don't talk
to me, I don't get it,

562
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,760
right. I'm just lucky that they
choose me to talk to you, because

563
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,920
I can't do it without them.
I mean, this isn't It's not like

564
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,639
you can It's not like teaching somebody
a magic trick, you know, and

565
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:01,159
you can repeat it over and over. I mean, I sit before a

566
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:05,559
reading and I think, Okay,
I'm here for you. I'm trusting you.

567
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,000
So like guys, don't go for
coffee because if if you're gone,

568
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,400
I can't do this, you know, And and it always you know,

569
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,519
you just have to learn to trust. I think that, yeah, it's

570
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:19,039
it's it's it's true. Really,
you know. I used to go on

571
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,320
investigations and I'd have my bag of
tricks and all my stuff, and I

572
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,079
realized that I really didn't get anything. And people would say to me,

573
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:29,280
do you feel anything? I'm like, no, I get nothing like feeling

574
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,119
it. And I think it was
because I was so focused on the bag

575
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,960
of tricks and wondering what i'd pick
up on this thing or that thing,

576
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,119
that I'm not stopping myself and just
being and just listening. And so I'm

577
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,480
going away this weekend I have doing
an event up in Maine, the Parafest

578
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:52,559
Maine, and there's an investigation Friday
night. I'm not bringing anything, but

579
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,039
I might be. I'll probably bring
a K two. That's it. I'm

580
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,400
not doing anything else. I just
want to sit and feel it, you

581
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,559
know, because I feel like I
don't do enough of that, and we

582
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,079
in general, we just don't do
enough for that. We just rely on

583
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:08,599
the other stuff. Yeah, so
I like to layer everything. Yeah.

584
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:15,360
I'm going on a like a touristy
investigation in Vegas this weekend. So I'm

585
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,800
kind of like, you know,
I paid for tickets and and I'm going,

586
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,280
but I'm still running, you know, the voice recorder, the K

587
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,800
two and the spirit box because they'll
allow it. There you go. We've

588
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,320
had a great opportunity, Cheryl and
I working together and doing these things to

589
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,280
work with mediums and psychic and the
marriage of the two. And we've done

590
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,920
this, I mean other you know, this isn't new, but but we

591
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,840
us having the opportunity to do it
has been new to us and our investigations,

592
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,960
and it's been amazing because what we
you know, we pick up you

593
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,840
know, who is a medium picks
up on something and like Cheryl said,

594
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,840
I know what piece of equipment to
grab, and then we say, you

595
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,880
know, hey, what you know
talking to this or whatever. However it

596
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,760
works out. We've had really good
marriage of the two and really good evidence

597
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,840
with it because of that. So
it's it's a it's a great thing.

598
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,760
Yes, I mean to be able
to work that and be open and just

599
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,320
go and do it. And our
medium friend she was like, oh my

600
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,079
gosh. You know we were able
to literally like pass a spirit on and

601
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,679
she's always like, well, you
know, I feel it and I know

602
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:27,079
it's happened. But Mike ended up
recording her basically telling them like what to

603
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,760
do, how to go, all
this good stuff, and we got this

604
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,480
insane sound where it was like a
whoosh, like it was like happening.

605
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,119
So again she was like, you
know, I know it happened. But

606
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:46,480
having that kind of validation, well, right, because exactly happened to you.

607
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,760
Scott. How many times have you
helped someone cross over or whatever it

608
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,239
is that you've done, But you've
been by yourself, you've been with a

609
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,119
small group of people, and you
don't have it, you don't have evidence

610
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:00,639
of it, you know, on
audio or video, but that's that doesn't

611
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:06,039
mean that it's not happening. We've
been lucky enough to have equipment to document

612
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,000
and validate it. For the mediums
that are doing this as well, it's,

613
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:14,519
you know, both sides. Everybody
is getting validation. I've only done

614
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:19,480
it three times. I've never had
equipment with me, but I can tell

615
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:23,800
you that the feeling is very different. Yeah, it's different than just doing

616
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,800
a gallery or having a conversation.
It was all the emotions, all the

617
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,800
feels. I mean, I felt
like I was losing my best friend,

618
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,719
but I was happy I felt I
mean, it was like the weirdest thing.

619
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:39,440
It was all kinds of feelings that
you don't like. I don't usually

620
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,639
get like that in the real world. But you know that you're doing something

621
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:50,519
because it just hits like that,
you know. But to have that evidence,

622
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,639
to have it on camera, to
have it, you know, a

623
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,320
sound or something, is just so
cool. And you hear about that too,

624
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,559
Mike. I don't know if you've
seen it. People that have watched

625
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,559
on camera, you know, they're
with someone who's passing away and they catch

626
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:08,119
the spirit. They just see something
kind of all away, and you know,

627
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:12,440
I don't know if you've experienced that, but I've heard stories like that

628
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,320
too. It's amazing. You know, audio we got, not visual,

629
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:21,840
but we you know, Melissa was
listen. She was in her zone,

630
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,800
seeing and hearing and communicating. And
there was a gentleman in the room that

631
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,920
we the woman had passed, and
we were telling the guy you can go

632
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,159
with her, and the EVP I've
played back. Oh my god, I'm

633
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:38,239
getting tearyot already, and we got
a clear as day EVP of a male

634
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,760
saying will I be okay? Oh
my gosh, and she said, yes,

635
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,679
go, You'll be fine, go
with her. Go. But she

636
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,079
you know, like I said,
Scott in the background, you're hyper focused

637
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:52,440
on this. You're not probably don't
even know. I'm standing next to you

638
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,159
with the recorder, but I'm texting
what you're seeing and what you're feeling.

639
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,280
We're you know, we're catching that
with the cameras and with the and it's

640
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:06,599
so when you put it all together, it was just a beautiful, you

641
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,519
know, amazing encounter and so so
great to I mean, how many times

642
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:15,079
in anybody's lifetime that does this Do
you get to experience that? And we've

643
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:19,960
had multiple so it's just it's a
blessing, you know, And that's asks

644
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,400
like how do you feel if you're
up against evil? That that's Balcone Castle.

645
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,519
The women felt pushed out, the
women didn't feel safe, like didn't

646
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,280
like the women. And I was
like, I feel fine here, like

647
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,519
I feel comfortable. I want to
go in, I want to try,

648
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,400
and you know, amazing things happen
because of it. So you know,

649
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,840
just because you think it's evil up
front, you know, I'd give them

650
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:44,360
a second chance. Yeah. Absolutely, We've did that. And what's that

651
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,280
there's a difference just between evil and
dark, right, And I think a

652
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,679
lot of people confuse the two.
Yeah. Well, and then it's knowledge,

653
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,000
right, and I mean experience,
I guess doing these two like you,

654
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:00,760
we've also had me d say hey, let's back off from this one.

655
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:06,039
Uh right, you know, let's
we need to step away and pull

656
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,000
back and so and I and like
Cheryl said in the beginning, we don't

657
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:15,239
taunt and so there's still so much
to learn, and you know, I'm

658
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,920
just thankful that we have amazing people
like you and all these people that we've

659
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,440
networked with throughout the time that Cheryl
and I have been doing this until the

660
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,239
time we met until now to learn
from and then share our experiences with things

661
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,320
have changed so much. Yeah,
we crossed over someone at Greyfriars Chapel,

662
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,760
Oh wow, in Scotland. And
we got there and it was immediately we

663
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,559
found we sensed this man who was
looking for his wife and his son.

664
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:47,079
He said, he said, now
here's the strange thing. Okay, so

665
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:52,360
I'm I'm picking this up. Someone
else is doing automatic writing next to me,

666
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,000
and we're finding out that the things
she's writing are the things I'm saying.

667
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,360
And he was a peasant and he
thought he wasn't allowed to go to

668
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,920
heaven because he wasn't. And it
was the strangest thing because he crossed.

669
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:13,480
You know, there are no coincidences. Somebody was playing the organ upstairs.

670
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:16,719
It was loud or loud and loud, and then as soon as he crossed

671
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,800
and went through the light, the
organ stopped. The lights went off and

672
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,480
they told us we had to leave, that they were closing the chapel.

673
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:28,119
It was like, oh my god. It was everything for a reason,

674
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:31,320
Scott, every everything for a reason. It was just incredible. People had

675
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,079
people were watching, they had tears. I mean, it was it was

676
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,800
very very strange. And emotional and
beautiful. I don't know, I mean,

677
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,119
it's just beautiful and to be a
part of that is just incredible.

678
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,280
Hey, you know what, I'm
just looking at the time. We only

679
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,960
have a short little few minutes left. What's going on with the Glenn Tabott

680
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,000
And I don't mean to like because
I'm loving this conversation. And I hope

681
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:53,320
you guys will stay on after the
show's over, because I want to talk

682
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:59,599
to you about something else. But
Mikey and I had gone to do the

683
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:04,519
Glen with Rick McCollum and the Spirit
Realm Network and we had an amazing experience

684
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,519
there. So we went back with
our group of friends here just as a

685
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,480
friends trip, and Jay bloom Key
came and filmed it. That was when

686
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,199
we had this amazing experience and we
helped that woman and the man, you

687
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,840
know, will I be okay?
And like all this crazy stuff happened.

688
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:22,719
We turned this into an episode,
right, So we did some dead air

689
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:28,239
full spectrum on it, and now
we're going to be going back. We're

690
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,440
going to be going back with the
Spirit Realm Network and doing a live investigation

691
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:37,719
on November eighteenth, correct, Mikey, Yes, So we get to touch

692
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,199
base with our friends there and kind
of see how things are going. Yeah,

693
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,800
we did have some crazy experiences there
the first time with Spirit Realm.

694
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,800
When we did you know, Rick
was getting cussed at by spirits. We

695
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,360
got cussed at when we went with
our family investigation. But that's where you

696
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:58,159
know, this this particular time and
I know we're run out of time,

697
00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:01,519
but we went into a with There's
been a lot of people there that have

698
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:06,119
done investigations there, that have had
experiences there. We went into it with

699
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,199
the mentality that, you know,
we're not going to try to debunk their

700
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,519
experiences or or validate their experiences.
We're going to have our own experiences.

701
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,679
And so we kind of cleared the
palette and or the plate and went in

702
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:22,159
with our own clean slate. And
the evidence that we got or the experiences

703
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:28,840
that we had were just just emotional
and amazing. So I love that place

704
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,159
and me too looking forward to going
back. So hopefully we'll have another round

705
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:42,440
three of getting cuss out what I
will Yeah, pretty good. I wish

706
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,440
we were closer so I could hang
out with you guys some time on investigation.

707
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:49,440
I think it'd be great. I
just want to say we only have

708
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,440
a few minutes left. I just
want to say thank you both for being

709
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,159
here today, and I feel like
I could have gone another hour with you

710
00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:00,079
too. Chat I do want to
say, I do want to say.

711
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:05,519
Next week we're gonna be chatting with
my friend actor Robert Neil Marshall. Robert

712
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,480
is such a great guy who's on
House of Cards. He's a playwright,

713
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,360
you know, and he had a
near death experience. We're talking about that,

714
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,320
and he came back and now he's
writing a show that he's asked me

715
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,239
to co author with him called Providence
of the Heart and it is a show.

716
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,519
We go live on stage with it
November second at the Alley Theater in

717
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:28,519
Middleborough. And so it's all about
near death experiences and the opening to mediumship

718
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:30,440
and past lives and all of this
kind of stuff that we're all kind of

719
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,559
interested in. So he's going to
be here next week, and of course

720
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:39,639
after that, I've got two events
November eleventh and twelfth, I'm at Salem

721
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:44,079
State College and Salem, Massachusetts for
a couple of galleries of my friend Chris

722
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,559
Brown. So if you're looking at
a tickets, check out Mediumscott Allen dot

723
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:52,400
com. Events and you can get
your tickets to any of these shows,

724
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:54,800
and guess what, we still have
a couple more minutes, So carry on.

725
00:51:55,199 --> 00:52:00,039
I don't want to exact enough out
of the way. Congratulations on all

726
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:07,760
of those. Yes, absolutely both
having us on. I mean, yeah,

727
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,039
we need we need a reunion.
We need a reunion, and I'm

728
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,239
trying to think of where we're all
going to be. I'm going to be

729
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,039
so Christina and I are going to
be in Texas. I told you,

730
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:22,159
Mike, you we chatted, and
we're going to be in San Antonio in

731
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:30,599
when in November, January, January
twenty fourth, February. I'm in Naples,

732
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:32,159
Florida, but that's not near you, so we need to find a

733
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,920
California. I will fly to you
and do some of the cool stuff up

734
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,480
there in your neck of the woods. Well, i'll tell you if you

735
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:44,039
guys all kidding aside, if you
want to plan a Shanley trip, oh,

736
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,159
I would say that place will rock
you and we can meet up with

737
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:52,400
Andrea and we'll yeah, well we'll
do the whole like we get my recorder.

738
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:57,480
Yeah, she's down south though she's
not up here anymore. That's why

739
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,440
I'm here. My grabber will make
it happen. We need a tour of

740
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,639
the house. Well, good luck
with that. You'll you'll, you'll get

741
00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:08,639
in there. And the place is, the place is. The place is

742
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:13,880
busy. But it's it's it's it's
fun. You've never been to the house

743
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,920
before. No, Yeah, it's
it's fun. It's it's it's we've been

744
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,480
a few times. The last couple
of times. It was sort of quiet,

745
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,360
to be honest with you, But
you know how that is. I

746
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,960
mean, it can be it can
be that way. You know, if

747
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,519
you there's a combination of energies that
can make things happen to you know,

748
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:36,079
certain people get stuff happens. Absolutely. I always feel like if you can

749
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:38,360
fall asleep at the Conjuring House,
you know, it's probably one of those

750
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:44,000
nights. So anyway, I want
to thank you all for being here.

751
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:45,400
We've come to the end of our
show. Thank you, Christina, my

752
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,360
co host. Can't wait to see
you next week. Mikey and Cheryl,

753
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,159
thank you again. It's been an
absolute pleasure. Stay on. I want

754
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:53,719
to say goodbye to you after the
show is over. Good Night everyone,

755
00:53:53,760 --> 00:54:07,800
and we'll see you next week.
Thanks so much. You've been listening to

756
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,440
the Paranormal Project radio show with Scott
Allen and Christina Bowen. Be sure to

757
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,159
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758
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:20,199
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759
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,119
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