Welcome to the Paranormal Project Radio Show. Journey with us through mystical realms to
a world of the unexplained. If you're ready, take a deep breath and
let curiosity be your guide. And now here are your hosts, Spirit medium
Scott Allen and Christina Bowen, the Green Witch of Tennessee. Hello, everyone,
and welcome back to the Paranormal Project Radio Show. Christina, how are
you, my friend? I'm great. How are you doing today? Scott?
Good? You know it's funny because I haven't talked to you this weekend
like I normally do. I have been up to my eyeballs and stuff,
and it's so good to have this time to kind of chat with you.
I know, I get caught it up. I'm excited. We're gonna have
a fun night tonight. So I know you know that I was in Scotland
last while, not this past summer, the summer before, so it would
have been July of twenty twenty two, and it was myself and Andrea Parrin
and Julie, my former co host, and some other friends had all been
in Scotland and we met two friends there and we got to investigate with us
some pretty cool places So we're gonna take a little trip down memory lane tonight
and I think you're gonna like them. We're gonna have a good time.
They brought some evidence, they brought some videos and clips, and we are
going to talk about haunted places, which is really what I love to do
most. So, without further ado, please bring my friends Mikey Thompson and
Cheryl Plumb onto the show. There you are, Hi, guys, how
are you. It's so good to see you again. It's great to see
you. This is guns Yeah, because you guys hadn't met before. Yeah,
where were you in front of Mikey? Is that a real place or
is that Scotland. I'm at Balgoni Castle. That is Balgoni Castle. So
we had an opportunity to go there, which was really great. Yeah.
We actually had the most amazing investigation there after the tour. Yeah yeah,
wait to hear. I know. We went and we spent some time and
we got a few little things, but I'm sure after the fact was great.
We would have loved to have been able to spend some time there with
you guys, but let's got a lot of things with you. I'm ready
to go back. I'm definitely ready to go back. I think there was
a lot I would have loved to have done and didn't get a chance to
do. There were things I was hoping to see and investigate that we didn't
get to see and investigate. So I'm ready to get a trip back there
and maybe keep it a little casual this time, you know, not thirty
five or fifty people, just you know, just keep its group. It
does it's harder to get in and out of places and and that kind of
thing. I think it's great when you have this small, little intimate group,
you know, to be able to go and experience some of these things.
So I really love some of these photos you brought, and we're going
to put some of these up on the screen. But tell me a little
bit about Scotland and what was your favorite part of that whole experience that we
shared together. Oh wow, I mean besides meeting us, you know what
I mean? Because pig just one right. You can't for me personally,
I don't and I don't know why, but I absolutely fell in love with
the town of Kouros. I love that town. I just was. I
was drawn to it. And I mean Cheryl and I walked and explored,
we found this old cemetery. It's just the whole town for me was amazing.
But I got to tell you, we started out with a bang and
earth and uh, and that's where you know, one of the most one
of the most how do I say this, Scott, It was a a
moment that we shared there during your live reading. I would say, for
me, it was a very I needed that kind of a thing. And
we can talk about that if you want to to later or whatever, but
yeah, whatever you like. Yeah, yeah, in terms of the reading
itself, is that and the message it was the message there that came through
I mean, Cheryl, also Kat. There was a lot of us that
got to experience that, but for me personally, I had never it was
it was confirmation for me. And and so that was really uh, you
know, being there with you and and that time that we spent there together.
For me, that moment was just it was a beautiful thing and I
and I'm so thankful for that, and I'm glad that we we had that
opportunity to sit and do a reading and be part of that with you.
So yeah, one of my favorite parts of the whole thing. Also Balgoni
Castle because we had like such a touching thing happen during our investigation, which
was gone by the dark zone. So it's there forever for me to go
back and look at. But Eric Castle, I mean, between the stuff
that happened in our investigation and your reading again you, I was not very
I was not super open to thinking somebody would come through for me. That's
why when you started saying things and they actually like were meant for me,
I didn't. I didn't get it right away. So so that was kind
of that was a new experience that wasn't very neat. Could somebody come to
see this is how it is for me, like coming and I don't even
remember I do my grandfather I am. I am like full I'm going crazy
goosebumps over here. So like my grandfather apparently came through because you were talking
about this this little man with you know, a cane and a top hat.
My grandfather was a ballroom answer and he was he was of my stature,
maybe five eight a little taller. But but when you started just starting
saying that stuff, and I was like, ah, it was kind of
in the back of my mind like that that could be ja ju. But
of course I'm not you know, I'm not thinking. I'm not thinking it
was for me, you know, until you you kind of like made it
obvious, like, yeah, that's so cool. I love that, you
know. It was really interesting because I was watching Andrea talk about her Conjuring
House experience and when she was there, and when she was talking, the
woman that came through for Mikey was right there, right at the front,
and and I thought, man, you know, I don't know who she
is, but I felt like she was pretty strong. She made herself known
early. And which was really funny about that place because the energy was really
cool in there. That makes a huge difference if I'm doing a reading or
a gallery like that in a place that has a lot of energy that's haunted,
I just feel like the vibrations better and you get more detail. And
I remember that place. I don't know who was sitting in the back of
the room. There was a woman sitting in the back, but on the
opposite side. So if I'm looking at you, you were on the right.
Whoever it was on the left, there was on the other side.
Yeah, Kat was over on that side. So it was Kat, And
there was a boy and a girl who had passed in an automobile accent,
and I remember this, and I remember that one of them had passed first
and waited for the other one, and it was all like In fact,
I remember saying to her, I said, they are right there in that
back rope, that's where they are. And she raised her hand she said,
it's like that's who it is. They're right here with me. I
mean, that was really bizarre. And it isn't often that that level of
detail will come through on a on a reading, that I'll know exactly where
they're sitting and that person. For you, Mikey, that was just I
mean, obviously you made it. You made an impression clearly. I've I've
been in readings before and like, I'm the tech guy. I'm the you
know, I put a camera up and I film it guy. I don't.
I don't. I haven't explored all of that side yet. But so
and I didn't feel like in anybody else or everybody else that you were talking
to that was specifically for them. For some reason, that woman that you
described reminded me of that patient and I could not get her out of my
head once you once you described her, Scott like the hair her. She
was very passionate about her right, and they have red hair you described she
had beautiful red hair. And now, so that woman, out of all
the patients that I've come in contact with every day for years, this woman
would not let go. It like she was just in my head. That's
why towards I even waited towards the end, like hey, Scott, could
this be a thing? But why why would she be in Scotland? Or
why would you know what I mean? So I had so many questions,
but but that just felt to me like that was her, and and and
and I've always wondered, I've always wondered if it made a difference if I
stayed with people while they were passing and played music for them or talked to
them or held their hand. I have just you know, in the back
of your mind, you wonder did it even help, Like was it effective
at all? You know? So and when you said yes, she just
she she you know, heard you. And the fact that I was telling
her what her family was asking to say, like the whole thing was just
mind blowingly like emotional for me because it really just it and it gave me
the strength to just keep doing that. You know that's the now that's I
mean, that's always been a thing for me, But now that I know
or I feel like they know, then I'm just I'm all in with it.
So that was just such a great experience for me and was going back
groundbreaking for me too, because that was the first time that I actually had
some kind of a contact that was meant for me in one of these group
readings. I've done group readings before with big name psychics, and nobody's ever
like reached out to me. So so that right there opened me up.
I never spent as much time with a medium, you know, thus far
as I did with you. So and now the like, the more I
open up and the more I pay attention, I'm seeing you know, I'm
seeing the third and the process for me, Scott, if I don't if
you don't mind me sharing, I I'm very observant. And so I noticed
like there was at one point we even delayed this reading a little bit because
there was so much coming through. You were overwhelmed. Not well I'm not
I'm not saying you were overwhelmed, but what I'm saying is there was some
point I think that you remember you had to take a break and step back,
because it was just it was very much you were you were affected by
it. So we we actually came back and did this another time because initially
it was just a lot and I and to see the process for somebody that
does this and to watch how it affects you and so that you know,
so when we're in that room and we're doing this and knowing that you're tuned
in now and whatever's coming is coming and there's no stopping it. I think
the craziest thing for me about this whole thing was we were filming it.
Yeah, oh my god, yes, video of it, yep, we
love They lost the video. The videos gone, the videos video it was
before I'm getting goosebus right now, I forget. I have them to the
video right up to the beginning. It stopped right when I started reading,
went right through the whole gallery and then picked up where it ended. The
whole thing is gone. Yeah, the whole thing is gone. But the
recorder never stopped reding. It never stopped recording. Barbara had the recorder and
she was going around and it never stopped. And it picked up before and
after, but not in the middle. Now, tell me that isn't just
bizarre. And you know what else is strange too. And I remember this
now because some of the details they kind of go after a while, But
I remember with her one of the when a spirit shows me identifying features,
right, whether it's a shoe or a foot or a hand. You know,
if they show me a hand, I know there's something with their hand.
I don't know what, but there's something going on right that's going to
bring about It was her hair. It wasn't just that it was red.
Is that it was like she had BedHead. It's like she needed to be
brushed. And I felt like that was really significant. And you had said
afterwards that you brushed her hair for her, which I thought was just like,
holy crap. Well, the family, the family wasn't able to come,
and the sister said, she loves her hair and she's always brushing her
hair. She asked us, would you please make sure that her hair is
brushed and washed and just and you know, just keep it because she loves
her hair. So we did. We would when you know, we turn
her and bathe her and clean her, we would brush her hair and you
know, lay it on her chest or whatever. But she had beautiful hair,
and so that was so important to the family that we just keep that
going and not let her just lie there and get BedHead or put it up
in a ponytail or whatever. So we did that, and so that was
another thing for me when you, you know, when you were describing them,
like, I just kept seeing her and I kept I'm like, can
this be her? Can you know? So I kind of asked you if
you remember I pull, I'm like, God, I gotta throw this at
you, and you know, I'm a fool, But you were like,
that's her, that's her. Once you made the connection, and they usually
give me this kind of like thing. They give me this feeling that I
don't usually get if I'm not doing a reading. It's not just goosebumps.
It's a different kind of a feeling. And when we make that connection,
I get it and I don't know. I can't explain it. I don't
know. But that place was hopping, and I think the vibration and the
energy in it kind of enhanced everything, really and truly because there's so much
history. It was so old and had battles and so much, so much
history. Even in that little session there when we did the investigation in there.
If you remember, Andrea was picking up that that young man, the
young boy. She kept getting the number twenty three or thirty two, remember,
And then the younger people in the group were picking up on stuff like
it was just so charged. Everybody was having some kind of personal experience there
as well. And so, yeah, it was just one thing after another,
and then we were getting you know, validation with EVPs and equipment going
off. Rick with his K two meter just you know, five lights blaring.
I mean, it was just amazing property. So and I got pushed
down. I mean I didn't actually go down, I got pushed into the
room. I was standing in the hallway. It was right, and you
walk in the door. There was this little, like small little lobby and
I was standing on the inside doorway and it just all of a sudden,
I was a boom. I was right in. That was early on,
wasn't that. I don't remember if it was before or after, I don't
remember. I think it was before we started filming. I think it was
oh, okay, yeah, come on, I think it was set up.
It was you was setting up maybe perhaps, yeah, yeah, I
think so. Hey, Cheryl Nancy wants to know. Have you ever been
read by a psychic before? I have. I have friends who are psychics,
but I generally don't, you know, ask my friends to do that
sort of thing. But I have had two amazing people do terror readings on
me. The first one was this beautiful man named Ken Boggle. He just
had a TV show come out, Living for the Dead, and he he
nailed me. He nailed me. He was like, you know, do
you have any idea you're an EmPATH and he just went on, you know,
telling me how to how to get rid of the bad energy that I'm
hanging onto and all this wonderful stuff. But and the second gal was in
Tombstone. But I am always I was always open to hearing things. But
again, if my friends are psychic, I'm not one to be like,
hey, what do you know about me? Like what's going to happen?
And you know what too? It doesn't really work that way at least for
me. Right, if I know you and I know things about you,
I can't I can't bring it through. Like if we did another reading together,
if we were all together again going back to earth Castle, I would
question whether that person coming through was really the person that was there before,
because I know about her and I would remember her. It's hard to It's
almost like I need to know nothing, you know. And I wanted to
be very picky. I don't, you know, I don't just go out
going to every you know, tearror card reader, every psychic and asking them
for questions. I was. I was very choosy. I was forty years
old before I got my first tarro reading no Wow. So yeah, I
I really it was the right time and it was the right person. I
want to stick a photo up here of earth Castle because I know you sent
one. This is such a beautiful place and earth Castle is a hotel on
top of it. It was closed. We weren't able to stay there,
sadly. We were, you know, stuck in the roadside motel up the
street a little bit. But but the castle was amazing and I don't know
if they're doing work and they're what they're doing, but we were lucky enough
to be able to use it and investigate there because there were no guests.
Yeah, and and do the gallery, so it was really great. It's
such a beautiful, beautiful building. Yeah, there was a lot of construction
going on and the the and that could have been part of it too,
you know. And right behind Earth is Falkirk and that's where William Wallace fell
to the English. And it's rumored that the English took him to Earth before
they took him to London because they were worried about retaliation and there were more
and the Scots were in control of Earth at the time. Robert the Bruce
later came and burned it down after when he went on a hands page.
But that's part of that. And this is all information that we got from
some of the locals there. So yeah, records don't don't don't stick around
after the thirteen hundreds and whatnot. But so these are some of the stories
from the locals there at that place. But if even so, that would
be you know, I mean, there's so much history there, Like Cheryl
was saying that it's parts of the original structure there, A lot of it
was would but some downstairs Yeah wow, yeah, No, that is not
the place, Nancy, we were in. I don't remember where that was.
We were up in the Highlands. Do you remember seeing that photo.
We were in the Highlands and we were all having dinner. It was this
big long table, yes, and I can't think of the name of the
end. It was kind of an old stage coaching, stage coaching, stage
coaching, yep. And we were all at dinner, yes, and I'm
sitting there and it's this black thing hanging over me. Did you see that?
The blackness? I did the back yes, yes, yes, yes,
right at the end. It was kind of wild, you know.
And then I actually went grew ahead in there. What's that? I was
sorry, I mean interrupt, but I think you're talking about that. We
took the big group photo, yes, yes, and the most amazing.
It was fantastic. And then they woke me up, got me out of
bed because they felt they needed to do reiki on me. I'm like,
guys, I'm fine, you know, I am not possessed. It's it's
okay, it's okay. I overed them and they went to bed. But
it was really great. So let's see what else do we have. You
want to look at a few more pictures. Gray Friars, Now, Gray
Friars, that's the one. Yep. We got Lori Dorsey. We got
wife in the back, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's who that is
yeh, his wife yep. And Mikey. That was great, so right,
where were we shore. I think if you right behind Laurie, I
believe that this is where the uh the inspiration for Harry Potter, some of
the characters came from the headstone. The character okay, yes, yes,
yes, yeah, I know where you are now. Yeah, because jk
uh you know, I hung out in there in Edinburgh. But apparently on
the other side of the Grave Friars here is a school and she used to
walk her daughter to the school and then she would walk around Edinburgh and cruise
through the cemetery for inspiration. Things like that, again from the locals that
are proud. But uh yeah, some of the names on the in the
in the books are very similar to some of the ones there at Grave Friar.
M That was really cool. Unfortunately I did not add. I did
not add the photo where Mikey had his wand next show, next showise yeah,
or the tree that looked like a butt. I also think that was
over it. I think that that was there too. That was there was
there too? Yeah, yeah, And I walked by and we kept looking
back and we're like, that's a butt. We got to go back rights.
So what happened to you over in the jail? Infrairiy jail. What
happened there, Well, we did the daytime kind of investigation and we kind
of branched off with the cousins, right, Mikey and Uh we were with
Rick McCollum's cousins, so we just all of a sudden, we're all family.
But we went into a jail cell and we started getting all this coinciding
evidence. We kept getting murder, murder, and then we started getting name
on the FAsMA box. Was it the FAsMA box? Oh, it was
a negraphonic app It was a negraphonic Okay, so we were like, okay,
you know, maybe we can get a name. So we get a
name, and Mikey goes and runs to the cabinet that has a database of
all the people that were in that jail and their crimes, and he's looking
up this, you know, these people's names, and we had gotten an
e VP as well that said, you know, i'd said, you know,
what was your crime? What did you do? And it was unmistakably
murder. So he was able to go through and find there's goods bumps again,
he was able to go and find a person by the name of I
don't even remember what the name was Owen. Yes, Owen Owen was in
there for murder. Yeah starting point. Yeah, like Thursday, the name
came through on the on the necraphonics app and so we we said Owen Owen.
Okay, So I ran back over there. I was typing in Owens
and I think I pulled up like four and the first one was a thirty
four year old that was put in for murder. So, I mean that
was just that was very cool. But again, what we like is taking
all the different tech because one thing by itself, you know that that doesn't
that doesn't impress me much. But you start adding the EVP saying murder the
name on the necrophonic app that matches the database, and I mean it was
that whole place was intense during the day. Yeah, yeah, it was.
It's just as fun. I was just gonna say, ghosts don't know.
The lights are right, But for the most part I like the dark
because you know, my senses are heightened when I can't see as much.
So like, I'm very audio driven, so that's when I get, you
know, I noticed my best audio. But yeah, during the day,
even with all the two distraction, all that stuff, and there were a
lot of people there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was
great, right, And what's that I was to add animals to the mix.
Some of the other had gone off in the other parts of the jail.
We're having experiences too. I mean they were hearing stuff up upstairs above
them, and it was just it was going on all around us. Yeah,
upstairs. We even had you know, my rampod going off and like
all these other things happening. I got it all on video. But again
it's, you know, thirty minutes of things happening. How do you how
do you cut down to just one? Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible,
really, it's incredible. Yeah, and I love that. I wish we'd
had more of that while we were there. The history, it's so much
history. Yeah. And the other thing, I'm just looking back because it's
like a little memory, you know, a trip down memory lane. I
just want to see Grayfriars and Infrariry. Oh, Roslyn Chapel, All right,
that is a really that is a really cool picture. Let me grab
that here, Rosalind Chappell. I mean you would remember that from Da Vinci
code. I was about to ask if it was the one and the same.
It is the one and the same and if you look closely, the
author of the da Vinci Code. No, he's not in the photo,
but there is one author there. She is right right sort of the there's
two authors. Rick McCollum also has a that's right one. Very recently wrote
about our shenanigans in Scotland, and Mike wrote in the book you did.
So if you look at Jay Blumkey with his arm up waving, he's the
guy waving in the center. And if you look to the right of him,
there's Andrea, and then a couple to the right is Rick. It's
so hard to see. Hey, guys, excuse me one second. I'm
sorry. I'll be right back. You go ahead. Yeah, And I
don't know. I'm sure you guys are I know. I hate when that
happens. You know. I'll tell you before he comes back. This is
really interesting, Cheryl, because you made me think of something when and I've
shown I think i've shown this to Christina before we were in you're a bit
of the Shanley Hotel. I know it's on the op post. So if
you guys ever come down here, we need to plan a trip to the
Shanley. But there was a serial killer. There was a serial killer who
lived there on the third floor a long time ago. It was a boarding
house. Wasn't a good guy and the story was his name was Adam and
and so you know, I turned on the necrophonic and I said, is
this Adam and clear as day you can hear a man speak over and just
say I'm Adam. Oh did I did I show you that? Let me
just I'm gonna show it. You give me one Randolph County. It was
cool. It was cool. I mean, it's really uh, let's see
uh paranormal project. Because it is. It is on our YouTube channel.
We're planning our day to the Shanley Hotel. Mikey. We got to go,
Okay, I'm going to show you this because it's like the coolest thing.
You just made me think of it when you were talking about let me
take this photo off, when you were talking about the Owen guy, the
murder guy. So this guy was a serial killer and it was It's it's
incredible. Hang on one second, I'm going to share this and I want
to go here check this out. Mm hmm. Hello there, Wow,
that's as clear as it you got it going on the background, pick.
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean wow, that's the kind of stuff that
makes you go all right now, that's yeah. And then when you pair
it with you know, the history and other things that happened, that's what
gets my goat right there. I love it. I'm curious what brought you
guys into the paranormal field. Everybody has an origin story. When it comes
to that, I'm going to go first, because Mikey story is like touching.
I'm gonna cry again. I started it was a whole fun thing for
my family. I lived in a small town. Wasn't a lot to do,
so my mom would take us out. We would just go check out
abandoned buildings and you know, run around cemeteries with flashlights. It was a
fun thing for us. And we were always very spooky watching things. So
once the paranormal became, you know, more mainstream, strange escapes started having
like weekend events. So I started taking my sister and we like had a
bonding thing happened. So we just started doing all these investigations and I ended
up meeting you know, the Dark Zone and going and then meeting Mikey at
the LA Police Museum. Funny because we had a misconnection at the Queen Mary
the same time we both met Andrea Parrin for the first time. We were
both there, but we did not meet, so weird. Yeah, well
I got into the paranormal. The big thing that happened, long story short,
in two thousand and two, my daughter drown in the pool sixteen months
old, and she was as sisterly for twenty six minutes, and I did
CPR and took her to the hospital I worked at, and we got her
back and she's she's in school for prerex for nursing. Everything's fine. But
it was after that incident when we got home from the drowning, we were
we were in the hospital for about a month, and we started to having
some really extreme paranormal things happening at home. She in particular, was was
tortured by this thing she called little Man, and so we would she would
wake up having night terrors and I would wake up having night terrors, and
we spent I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what was happening
to her. I didn't know if it was related to the drowning, if
something attached itself when she came back, or I'm you know, one day,
I'm a normal guy working a job and everything. Now I'm you know,
thrown into this paranormal world and fighting something I can't see, so and
it was very real. It was very real. So I my journey,
and you know, for me, this is therapy. Yeah. I get
to meet people that that have similar stories or not, but that don't want
to feel like they're crazy, and they want validation for things. And I
think it's important that we talk about this stuff and to have a family,
a paranormal family. Really that that we've built here is is therapeutic and and
it's necessary. I can come to Scott and Cheryl and I can tell this
story and you won't think I'm crazy, Whereas I wouldn't go to work and
tell the doctors I work with this because I don't want to be you know,
I thought of this right, and then it's not that they would treat
me that way, but it's just that's how it That's how it is when
you go through something like that. So for me, my journey continues because
I really just I like trying to help people that are living, and I
like to try to help people that have passed and and hopefully someone even if
it's one person in all these years that has seen something that we've done or
or you know, had a similar story that's that's had some kind of validation
for themselves or some kind of relief from this, then then it's a win.
So that's that's why I'm still doing this, and I think that's why
we get along so well, because I've been able to learn so much from
Mikey as far as like the empathetic part of us, like what can we
do to help you? We're coming into this space. We're not trying to
taunt the spirits. We're trying to say, hey, do you need to
talk, Like is there something you want to say? Can we help you?
Is there anything you need to do? Here come the goosebumps again.
And we've had some amazing experiences where it feels like we really did get to
help, even in a small way, even even if things go back to
normal, we've been able to help some of these unseen people. That's a
beautiful thing though, it really is to actually be able to help people,
and one understand they're not crazy, right, yeah, right. Everybody assumes
you still start talking about ghosts and they're either going to go hyper religious on
you or you're a nutjob, right, yeah, right, And I'm so
grateful we've got an in between place now, he said, safe space where
we can talk about these things. Yeah. I love the fact that I
can tell Scott this story about this patient that I had and he doesn't think,
you know, he didn't say, Mikey, there's no way that this
patient of yours is going to travel thousands of miles across the sea to be
here today to have this event. Maybe that was the only way she could
get there and tell me that she heard me, or or she's been there
all along and you just didn't notice, right, and maybe she's just around
you and that it really there is no space in time anyway, so you
know, not to negate the fact that she was in Scotland. But I
but I don't know that it's all that complicated for them either. I think
they're just really a thought away all. I totally agree. I don't think
there is time and space once you know. But you know, I really
think too about like what you do for work and how that changes you.
And you know you said that you know you because of the reading that we
shared together, you have a better understanding of how the things you do for
those who are less fortunate, who are dying, who are sick. It
really does make a difference. And maybe you rendered that, maybe you hoped
that, but you know, you know, and it changes how you work
and you're more aware of that, and you know, it's funny. I
don't know if you know this about me. You may I don't remember,
but you know, I was a funeral director for like thirty five years,
and I did that, which is sort of the complete opposite of what you
do in a way, but it's still caring for people. And I was
burnt out and I left, and somehow I've found myself in this niche where
I'm still working with the grieved, with the grieving because the grieving come in
and caring for the people who have crossed, but in a different way because
I'm delivering their messages. So I really feel like, you know, we
follow our life's work, we follow our purpose, and it sticks with us.
And you can move things around, move the little chest pieces, but
I still think at the end of the day, you're doing what you're supposed
to do, and you learn and you grow from these experiences. Yeah,
I was gonna you know, chime in on you were talking about Cheryl had
done the readings for the first time, and I have so before Scotland.
I have a friend that sees a reiki master in Vegas and he was out
visiting and I went up to visit him and he had made an appointment and
asked me to go with him. So I went and he didn't tell me
until we were on the way there that he made an appointment for me too.
So we get there, I walk in, I sit on the couch.
I'm quiet. I don't know what to expect. I'm watching him do
his session so that I can kind of get a feel of what's happening.
And the guy doesn't say a lot to me, you know, he's just
a quiet It's a different kind of vibe in there. And I don't do
this, so I don't know what's happening. But when I went up for
my turn, I sat down and he starts, you know, doing his
thing, and he goes, you're in the medical field. And I thought
to myself, why would you pick that, of all all things, why
would you pick that? Not a bodyguard or not a you know, a
truck driver, Like why medical field? And he goes, well, it's
more, Uh, the people that came in with you. He said,
when you when you walked in through the door, I was overwhelmed by the
amount of people behind you. That and when you sat on the couch,
you have a crowd behind you in my living room. And I was trying
to figure out what's happening here, But I understand, Uh, it's medical
field. And he goes, in long story short, he said, he
called me. He said, you're an angel of death, and that scared
me initially. He said, don't out about that. He goes, It's
not a bad thing. He goes, What I mean is you're a light
and they look for you, or they talk about you. Hey, Mikey,
he'll help you, or whatever you're it's a good thing. And so
that brought up more questions for me than anything, because I'd always been that
way. Like I said, you know, I hold a hand, I
hold a baby, whatever's people are dying, that I would do what I
could do. But it wasn't until last year when you had your reading and
she came through that it just that was the last piece of the puzzle that
I needed to see. The picture clicked and clicked and you and you helped
me do that. And I hope that you know all your fans and listeners
and and believes behind you understand that that's what you do, and and to
keep listening and absolutely, but you know what, Mikey and I'm telling you,
I'm getting like all kinds of feels tonight. I really have. It's
crazy. It's like goosebumps everywhere, but I feel like it's me, but
it's not me. I just listen, yeah, I And you know what,
that's what I was told that that's my superpower apparently is listening. Like
people like to vent to me. And I thought it was just like,
oh, that's because you know, I'm just I'm just that guy. Everybody
likes to vent to me. But no, I'm a I'm a sponge,
Like give it to me. Whatever whatever's bonding, just give it to me.
Impasse can soak that energy off you go. You got to make sure
that you're taking care of yourself to get rid of that and and make sure
you know what belongs to some of somebody else, right, And that's not
easy to you know, decipher, it's not being new, So yeah,
it's it really comes through for us in these investigations like Cheryl, you know
she does with the living. But when we were in BALGONI behind me and
we had that counter down in the in the chapel, there was a you
know, Cheryl can feel that and she like she we call her the audio
Queen, but she felt like this was an opportunity for her to She didn't
run from the opportunity to go down there and and meet with this entity that
the other group Scottish Paranormal and I have had experiences with in the past.
She said, I got to go in there. I'm gonna go in there,
buy my health and talk to this guy. And I think it's because
she listened, like she said, she's not just listening to, you know,
me talk about my experience, She's listening to the environment. And she
went in there and she did that and we had an amazing, you know
encounter there too. So it's we're we kind of go in this as tech
geeks with everything. I buy all the stuff I turn But everyone that I've
ever worked with said, Mikey, your most important piece of equipment that you
bring to an investigation is you you. And we're learning that cheryln You know,
I think Cheryl and I are are more open to that, and the
more open we are, the more the better experiences we have. I feel
so much more now. I love my toys, don't get me wrong,
Please, I love it. I know where to put them now because I'm
like, oh, I'm like, I'm feeling something like I've been doing house
cleansing with my friend, the American witch Melissa Saint Hilaire, and like the
minute I walked into this last house, I was like, whoa, like
fat old Hollywood and I totally felt all that energy and it's so strange to
me because I never had that before. But yeah, start paying. The
more you do it, the more that's going to happen. But we need
people like Scott and you know, the Andreas and the Ricks and they that
are doing this that then encourage you to do that. Yes, it goes
back to that whole I don't want to talk about it and do it because
I don't want to feel weird, and where Scott will say no, listen,
listen and go to it, run to the fire fireman, don't run
away from it. Like I mean, here's the thing, Mikey, you
know, like I all I when I say all I do is listen I
mean, but if they don't talk to me, I don't get it,
right. I'm just lucky that they choose me to talk to you, because
I can't do it without them. I mean, this isn't It's not like
you can It's not like teaching somebody a magic trick, you know, and
you can repeat it over and over. I mean, I sit before a
reading and I think, Okay, I'm here for you. I'm trusting you.
So like guys, don't go for coffee because if if you're gone,
I can't do this, you know, And and it always you know,
you just have to learn to trust. I think that, yeah, it's
it's it's it's true. Really, you know. I used to go on
investigations and I'd have my bag of tricks and all my stuff, and I
realized that I really didn't get anything. And people would say to me,
do you feel anything? I'm like, no, I get nothing like feeling
it. And I think it was because I was so focused on the bag
of tricks and wondering what i'd pick up on this thing or that thing,
that I'm not stopping myself and just being and just listening. And so I'm
going away this weekend I have doing an event up in Maine, the Parafest
Maine, and there's an investigation Friday night. I'm not bringing anything, but
I might be. I'll probably bring a K two. That's it. I'm
not doing anything else. I just want to sit and feel it, you
know, because I feel like I don't do enough of that, and we
in general, we just don't do enough for that. We just rely on
the other stuff. Yeah, so I like to layer everything. Yeah.
I'm going on a like a touristy investigation in Vegas this weekend. So I'm
kind of like, you know, I paid for tickets and and I'm going,
but I'm still running, you know, the voice recorder, the K
two and the spirit box because they'll allow it. There you go. We've
had a great opportunity, Cheryl and I working together and doing these things to
work with mediums and psychic and the marriage of the two. And we've done
this, I mean other you know, this isn't new, but but we
us having the opportunity to do it has been new to us and our investigations,
and it's been amazing because what we you know, we pick up you
know, who is a medium picks up on something and like Cheryl said,
I know what piece of equipment to grab, and then we say, you
know, hey, what you know talking to this or whatever. However it
works out. We've had really good marriage of the two and really good evidence
with it because of that. So it's it's a it's a great thing.
Yes, I mean to be able to work that and be open and just
go and do it. And our medium friend she was like, oh my
gosh. You know we were able to literally like pass a spirit on and
she's always like, well, you know, I feel it and I know
it's happened. But Mike ended up recording her basically telling them like what to
do, how to go, all this good stuff, and we got this
insane sound where it was like a whoosh, like it was like happening.
So again she was like, you know, I know it happened. But
having that kind of validation, well, right, because exactly happened to you.
Scott. How many times have you helped someone cross over or whatever it
is that you've done, But you've been by yourself, you've been with a
small group of people, and you don't have it, you don't have evidence
of it, you know, on audio or video, but that's that doesn't
mean that it's not happening. We've been lucky enough to have equipment to document
and validate it. For the mediums that are doing this as well, it's,
you know, both sides. Everybody is getting validation. I've only done
it three times. I've never had equipment with me, but I can tell
you that the feeling is very different. Yeah, it's different than just doing
a gallery or having a conversation. It was all the emotions, all the
feels. I mean, I felt like I was losing my best friend,
but I was happy I felt I mean, it was like the weirdest thing.
It was all kinds of feelings that you don't like. I don't usually
get like that in the real world. But you know that you're doing something
because it just hits like that, you know. But to have that evidence,
to have it on camera, to have it, you know, a
sound or something, is just so cool. And you hear about that too,
Mike. I don't know if you've seen it. People that have watched
on camera, you know, they're with someone who's passing away and they catch
the spirit. They just see something kind of all away, and you know,
I don't know if you've experienced that, but I've heard stories like that
too. It's amazing. You know, audio we got, not visual,
but we you know, Melissa was listen. She was in her zone,
seeing and hearing and communicating. And there was a gentleman in the room that
we the woman had passed, and we were telling the guy you can go
with her, and the EVP I've played back. Oh my god, I'm
getting tearyot already, and we got a clear as day EVP of a male
saying will I be okay? Oh my gosh, and she said, yes,
go, You'll be fine, go with her. Go. But she
you know, like I said, Scott in the background, you're hyper focused
on this. You're not probably don't even know. I'm standing next to you
with the recorder, but I'm texting what you're seeing and what you're feeling.
We're you know, we're catching that with the cameras and with the and it's
so when you put it all together, it was just a beautiful, you
know, amazing encounter and so so great to I mean, how many times
in anybody's lifetime that does this Do you get to experience that? And we've
had multiple so it's just it's a blessing, you know, And that's asks
like how do you feel if you're up against evil? That that's Balcone Castle.
The women felt pushed out, the women didn't feel safe, like didn't
like the women. And I was like, I feel fine here, like
I feel comfortable. I want to go in, I want to try,
and you know, amazing things happen because of it. So you know,
just because you think it's evil up front, you know, I'd give them
a second chance. Yeah. Absolutely, We've did that. And what's that
there's a difference just between evil and dark, right, And I think a
lot of people confuse the two. Yeah. Well, and then it's knowledge,
right, and I mean experience, I guess doing these two like you,
we've also had me d say hey, let's back off from this one.
Uh right, you know, let's we need to step away and pull
back and so and I and like Cheryl said in the beginning, we don't
taunt and so there's still so much to learn, and you know, I'm
just thankful that we have amazing people like you and all these people that we've
networked with throughout the time that Cheryl and I have been doing this until the
time we met until now to learn from and then share our experiences with things
have changed so much. Yeah, we crossed over someone at Greyfriars Chapel,
Oh wow, in Scotland. And we got there and it was immediately we
found we sensed this man who was looking for his wife and his son.
He said, he said, now here's the strange thing. Okay, so
I'm I'm picking this up. Someone else is doing automatic writing next to me,
and we're finding out that the things she's writing are the things I'm saying.
And he was a peasant and he thought he wasn't allowed to go to
heaven because he wasn't. And it was the strangest thing because he crossed.
You know, there are no coincidences. Somebody was playing the organ upstairs.
It was loud or loud and loud, and then as soon as he crossed
and went through the light, the organ stopped. The lights went off and
they told us we had to leave, that they were closing the chapel.
It was like, oh my god. It was everything for a reason,
Scott, every everything for a reason. It was just incredible. People had
people were watching, they had tears. I mean, it was it was
very very strange. And emotional and beautiful. I don't know, I mean,
it's just beautiful and to be a part of that is just incredible.
Hey, you know what, I'm just looking at the time. We only
have a short little few minutes left. What's going on with the Glenn Tabott
And I don't mean to like because I'm loving this conversation. And I hope
you guys will stay on after the show's over, because I want to talk
to you about something else. But Mikey and I had gone to do the
Glen with Rick McCollum and the Spirit Realm Network and we had an amazing experience
there. So we went back with our group of friends here just as a
friends trip, and Jay bloom Key came and filmed it. That was when
we had this amazing experience and we helped that woman and the man, you
know, will I be okay? And like all this crazy stuff happened.
We turned this into an episode, right, So we did some dead air
full spectrum on it, and now we're going to be going back. We're
going to be going back with the Spirit Realm Network and doing a live investigation
on November eighteenth, correct, Mikey, Yes, So we get to touch
base with our friends there and kind of see how things are going. Yeah,
we did have some crazy experiences there the first time with Spirit Realm.
When we did you know, Rick was getting cussed at by spirits. We
got cussed at when we went with our family investigation. But that's where you
know, this this particular time and I know we're run out of time,
but we went into a with There's been a lot of people there that have
done investigations there, that have had experiences there. We went into it with
the mentality that, you know, we're not going to try to debunk their
experiences or or validate their experiences. We're going to have our own experiences.
And so we kind of cleared the palette and or the plate and went in
with our own clean slate. And the evidence that we got or the experiences
that we had were just just emotional and amazing. So I love that place
and me too looking forward to going back. So hopefully we'll have another round
three of getting cuss out what I will Yeah, pretty good. I wish
we were closer so I could hang out with you guys some time on investigation.
I think it'd be great. I just want to say we only have
a few minutes left. I just want to say thank you both for being
here today, and I feel like I could have gone another hour with you
too. Chat I do want to say, I do want to say.
Next week we're gonna be chatting with my friend actor Robert Neil Marshall. Robert
is such a great guy who's on House of Cards. He's a playwright,
you know, and he had a near death experience. We're talking about that,
and he came back and now he's writing a show that he's asked me
to co author with him called Providence of the Heart and it is a show.
We go live on stage with it November second at the Alley Theater in
Middleborough. And so it's all about near death experiences and the opening to mediumship
and past lives and all of this kind of stuff that we're all kind of
interested in. So he's going to be here next week, and of course
after that, I've got two events November eleventh and twelfth, I'm at Salem
State College and Salem, Massachusetts for a couple of galleries of my friend Chris
Brown. So if you're looking at a tickets, check out Mediumscott Allen dot
com. Events and you can get your tickets to any of these shows,
and guess what, we still have a couple more minutes, So carry on.
I don't want to exact enough out of the way. Congratulations on all
of those. Yes, absolutely both having us on. I mean, yeah,
we need we need a reunion. We need a reunion, and I'm
trying to think of where we're all going to be. I'm going to be
so Christina and I are going to be in Texas. I told you,
Mike, you we chatted, and we're going to be in San Antonio in
when in November, January, January twenty fourth, February. I'm in Naples,
Florida, but that's not near you, so we need to find a
California. I will fly to you and do some of the cool stuff up
there in your neck of the woods. Well, i'll tell you if you
guys all kidding aside, if you want to plan a Shanley trip, oh,
I would say that place will rock you and we can meet up with
Andrea and we'll yeah, well we'll do the whole like we get my recorder.
Yeah, she's down south though she's not up here anymore. That's why
I'm here. My grabber will make it happen. We need a tour of
the house. Well, good luck with that. You'll you'll, you'll get
in there. And the place is, the place is. The place is
busy. But it's it's it's it's fun. You've never been to the house
before. No, Yeah, it's it's fun. It's it's it's we've been
a few times. The last couple of times. It was sort of quiet,
to be honest with you, But you know how that is. I
mean, it can be it can be that way. You know, if
you there's a combination of energies that can make things happen to you know,
certain people get stuff happens. Absolutely. I always feel like if you can
fall asleep at the Conjuring House, you know, it's probably one of those
nights. So anyway, I want to thank you all for being here.
We've come to the end of our show. Thank you, Christina, my
co host. Can't wait to see you next week. Mikey and Cheryl,
thank you again. It's been an absolute pleasure. Stay on. I want
to say goodbye to you after the show is over. Good Night everyone,
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