1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,039 Hey, this is JD and I am in the lobby of our hotel here 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,560 at Sonicon twenty twenty three. And if you are new to Audio Theater Central, 3 00:00:12,599 --> 00:00:16,679 this is not a regular episode, So if you haven't heard the show 4 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:19,719 before, go back and find another one in the archive and this will all 5 00:00:19,719 --> 00:00:22,559 make sense. But for those of you who've been following our trip here at 6 00:00:22,559 --> 00:00:27,320 Soniccon, we're going to be recapping day two, which was Friday, and 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,399 give you some of the highlights. I'm here with Dominic Trice and Josh Rodriguez. 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,799 Hey, how's it going. You guys might have to scoot in a 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,880 little bit more so we can get your voices on here a little bit better. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:46,000 But yeah, that's right. So we started off that day. I 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,920 think Dominic, you and I were both in Phil Lawler's class, that director's 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:55,000 take on voice acting. Yep, so that was a really great class. 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,679 Do you remember which one you were in now with Josh class, Yeah, 14 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:02,439 you were? Okay, so I great minds think alection, yes, right 15 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:06,840 right, I was. It wasn't sure which one I was going to go 16 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:11,799 to at first, but because I have heard Phil teach both years prior, 17 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:15,560 but there was a lot of new stuff that he covered in this in this 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,920 class, So I really enjoyed it. Yeah. No, and he really 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:25,200 delved into the how story should influence the voice actor, and he had to 20 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:27,719 he had to go over the whole structure of the story to make sure that 21 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:32,920 you know, in how you how you have to research the character and invent 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,599 a backstory for your character, you know, that sort of thing things that 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:41,280 I had heard maybe briefly, but really he went into depth and that was 24 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:47,680 that was great. Yeah. Phil's experience is unique in that excuse me. 25 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Not only has he written and directed I think like four hundred episodes of Odyssey. 26 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:57,680 I believe he is has I believe he has the unofficial record for the 27 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:02,840 most roles on Honesty, but most of them are uncredited. So he and 28 00:02:02,959 --> 00:02:07,800 he's done voice acting and not just with Honesty, but different many different shows. 29 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:14,240 And so he has the perspective from both behind the glass in front of 30 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,120 the mic. Yeah, and so he's like, he has this really great 31 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:20,919 perspective on both sides. And so it was really great to hear from him 32 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,879 because he could give us so much information, you know, from both sides 33 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,879 of the mic, which was which is like I said, I don't know 34 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:29,240 that there's many that have that experience that can really speak from that. I 35 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,599 know there's something like like John Fornoff is now delving into acting, but it's 36 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,400 only been a couple of years. Right, He's fantastic, but he'll probably 37 00:02:37,479 --> 00:02:39,159 have that same experience, you know, over time. It feels very unique 38 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:43,360 and gifted with his experience to be able to speak to both sides, even 39 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,000 having a little bit of post production experience from Elliot House, right, right, 40 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:53,240 So yeah, I do either of you guys remember the three e's Oh 41 00:02:53,840 --> 00:03:01,840 elocution was one? Right? I threw a pop quiz at you guys, 42 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:05,879 and I don't even remember the answer, So I don't feel bad. I'm 43 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:15,479 trying to think. That's all right, Hey go hang, Our crack research 44 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:21,120 team is on it. And but just so you know, this is live 45 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:27,039 to Drive, so there's no editing here unlike another regular episode. And also 46 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:30,520 we're all a little horse because we've been talking for three days straight and very 47 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:38,240 little sleep. That's all right. Yeah, Well, Google Drive is letting 48 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,319 me down, so I do not have the notes, but I did write 49 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:44,840 it down as well, and so it was something that I wanted to make 50 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:52,199 sure that I energy energy. Yeah, that's right elocution and oh it's right 51 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:59,280 there on the tip of your brainer ear and you have to have a good 52 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:05,439 ear like to be listening was the other the other point. So that was 53 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:15,879 cool and thanks to our crack research team the scenes. So the second block 54 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,319 we had a couple of different sessions going on. I did my masterclass in 55 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:25,439 the second block on Friday. He was talking about audio drama distribution and with 56 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:29,199 an emphasis on podcasting specifically. So we went through a lot of those points 57 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,639 and had a full room, which I was not expecting because I was up 58 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:39,160 against Kara O'Brien and Paul McCusker in the same time slot, so kind of 59 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:44,560 unfair scheduling there. I was like every master class block, I was like, 60 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,040 there's there's at least two that I'd be interested in, and I wish 61 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,199 that I could go to both, especially when they scheduled Jared and Paul back 62 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:57,879 to back. But Jared and Todd, you know which one did you go 63 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:00,560 to? An Now I went to Paul McCusker's Okay, Fundamentals of Dialogue, 64 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,839 and boy, that was a cool class. I mean, just Paul being 65 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:13,600 Paul and his his normal collected, friendly, caring self. You know, 66 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:16,439 he brought us. He made the whole class feel personal. You know, 67 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,720 he brought us. He had just had a way of just speaking to us 68 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,279 as he instead of just a teaching lecture. It was it was he took 69 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,160 some questions during it, but and stuff like that, but just the way 70 00:05:28,199 --> 00:05:31,199 he talked made it feel like he was having a conversation with us. Yeah. 71 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:34,480 Absolutely, both of the master classes I took with him in the same 72 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:41,160 way. He was just very conversational and and it was really great to learn 73 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:46,480 from from Philip Klassman. All the things that which I hear he doesn't like 74 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:49,920 that reference, I didn't hear it come up this this, This didn't this 75 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:57,439 weekend. But no, just I mean I thought it, but but I've 76 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,240 heard him talk about how he doesn't like being associated because he can't do other 77 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:05,560 voices. Yeah, so yeah, it was. It was fantastic to see 78 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,439 him again. I've met him a couple of times in the past, and 79 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,000 this is the first time we actually really got a chance to just sit down 80 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,480 and talk and so that was really cool. And unfortunately, since I was 81 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:19,120 teaching class, I didn't get to take his, So no, I didn't 82 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,120 get I didn't attend your masterclass, JD, but did hear you know in 83 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,759 conversations how a lot of a lot of the one people did the tend really 84 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,079 appreciated what you brought. Oh that's good. That's good to hear that feedback. 85 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,040 I mean, just you have the distribution experience at least in terms of 86 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:39,720 you know, you're in the podcast industry, y're you know how to get 87 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,920 the word out to people. So just hearing your take on that. Again, 88 00:06:43,959 --> 00:06:46,000 I wasn't able to make it to your class, but I wish I 89 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,439 could have because that's really cool. And it seems like some of the larger, 90 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,839 more influential production housis are listening because you've been talking about these things for 91 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,360 all the years now and they seem to be branching out into into a little 92 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,720 more creative ways distribution. So and I definitely think that your advice and your 93 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:06,600 consistency with that has had some influence. And so that's a really good thing. 94 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:10,959 Well, that's that's great to hear. I hope it's it's making a 95 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:13,399 difference, you know. And I did get a couple of people giving me 96 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:16,720 some feedback right after the class, and so I was really glad to hear 97 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:23,040 that. And then so that was followed up by another big block of exhibition 98 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:27,399 Hall time, which was great, and Newark's rehearsals. Oh yeah, that's 99 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:33,680 right. I actually got to have bunch with Nato Jacobson and Michael Touche and 100 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,920 his son, and then I went right into the Newark's rehearsal and then came 101 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:43,399 to the exhibition Hall. Just such a good time to network connect with people. 102 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,279 My probably my favorite part other than Paul McCusker and Jared Pasqual, but 103 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:55,839 very intentional on behalf of the Chris Nelson and those the organizers of the event. 104 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,480 We had nine hours dedicated to networking and making connections and it was it 105 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,399 was incredible to those that took advantage of that time. It was well worth 106 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:09,920 the price of admision even more and in so many good conversations, so many 107 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,519 good connections, just a wonderful time. People send me your stuff, you 108 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,879 know, people saying here's what I'm doing. You know. I got to 109 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,319 listen to trailers for some new audio dramas and just talk with people and just 110 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,439 amazing. I don't remember if you and I mentioned this on the last one. 111 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Dominick or not, but I know that Josh and I talked about this. 112 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:31,240 We really liked the layout of the exhibition hall too. I don't know 113 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:37,240 if we mentioned it, but much better, Yeah, because it felt you 114 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,320 could walk around and then you could hang out in the middle. Yeah. 115 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Right. And while that was all going on, also John Farnough was doing 116 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,399 those creative speed sessions and he was telling he was telling me afterwards that he 117 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,200 really enjoyed that, you know, because he's such a personable kinder man. 118 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,080 He just loves getting in there and just talking with people. And he said 119 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,360 it he just thrives on that kind of stuff. And so he said he 120 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,440 really enjoyed doing those just sitting down. I think it was a fifteen minute 121 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,759 block and you just got to tell him where you are in your journey and 122 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:16,000 and just get get straight, uh get advice straight from him where he he 123 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,600 might be able to point you and your next step and things like that. 124 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,639 And so that was a really cool opportunity for me. What a Yeah, 125 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:30,320 opportunities were what an incredible gift from from John to every one of that participated. 126 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,879 Yeah. Well, mean you would never get that somewhere, you know, 127 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,360 at a different times it's just you know, it's just an incredible opportunity. 128 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,679 I heard from several that sat down with John and they they're excited about 129 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,799 their ideas and he gave them some feedback and you know, fifteen minutes is 130 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 kind of a short amount of time, but this a lot can happen when 131 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,679 you know, when you're focused, then when you're intentional. So yeah, 132 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:54,240 what a great opportunity for upcoming you know, producers, actors, anyone that's 133 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,039 interested Innaudy drummer. It's super cool for sure. And just learning from John 134 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,360 ford Off, you know, like it's like he's part of the big three 135 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:07,519 of you know, of the writers. Yeah, so well, I mean 136 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:11,320 there's so many more writers, but the big three that were there. The 137 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,360 next block was Jared Deepest Pall and Todd Busty, and that was the one 138 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,919 that I was like, man, I wanted to go to both of them, 139 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,279 so hard to pick, and I just actually ended up going to the 140 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,559 room that was closest to where I was at the time, right like right 141 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,919 after So I just went right in and there was Jared and so I I'm 142 00:10:30,919 --> 00:10:35,399 not a composer and I have I have no musical ability other thing that I 143 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:39,360 can sing but I don't play any instruments or what or anything. But I 144 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,600 just was interested, and so I didn't stay for the whole session, but 145 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:45,840 I just wanted to get, you know, see see how it was going. 146 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:48,919 And so I know you were in there as well. Down So any 147 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:54,679 top takeaways from that one, Oh, just Jared's amazing. He was just 148 00:10:54,759 --> 00:11:00,120 kind of delving into his what you need to know as a composer for an 149 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,759 audio drama, what you need to develop and learn, and just good tips 150 00:11:03,799 --> 00:11:07,799 and then just playing you know, how he and then showing us how he 151 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,519 does it and playing us little samples from a melody of certain things from his 152 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:18,480 This is mostly this class of mostly melody. He was talking about melody and 153 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:26,519 how and just themes and stuff that he just the basic foundations for for music 154 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:33,679 writers and just just amazing. I'm playing samples of some of the stuff that 155 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,559 he's telling us, of the stories about the people that played a live instruments 156 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:43,399 for him, and he would direct him over zoom and and he played the 157 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,840 main theme from Freedom, which is my I think it's my favorite piece that 158 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:52,960 he's he's written. Okay, it's just I don't know, there's something about 159 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,519 that piece of music that just gets me deep down every time I hear it, 160 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:03,399 almost every piece of to be But he definitely leaves peace with him him, 161 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,639 Oh absolutely does. I didn't get to attend this session because I was 162 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:13,000 in Todd to Steve's, but I would highly recommend that anybody that's interested in 163 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:16,960 you auto drama, whether it's scoring, no matter what discipline it's in, 164 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:22,320 go out to his YouTube page and watch some of his behind the scene videos 165 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,159 because he goes into several different auto dramas and how his creative process and the 166 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:31,759 things that he's gone through. So if you want to really look into his 167 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:35,120 process, which is fascinating, you know, check out his check out his 168 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:41,679 stuff online. So we have four four more segments left from the day, 169 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:43,840 and we only have a couple of minutes to try to get this in, 170 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,159 so we'll try to get through this one will The last one's a little bit 171 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,000 quicker, But the next one was a special feature with River Cross and we 172 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,720 had to hear the first episode of their upcoming show or I guess it's already 173 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,240 out already using the whole show, but they haven't released it all publicly yet. 174 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,080 But the first episode of Bridge to Freedom and excuse me, tough to 175 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:11,320 listen to in parts, but if you are on ATC backstage, you already 176 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:18,120 heard me do an initial reaction to that. But it's it's so well done, 177 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,799 and I don't know the right word. I start to say it's tastefully 178 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:24,759 done, but that sounds a little bit weird to use that word considering the 179 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:33,200 topics that they're covering. But it's very sensitively done. And so it's and 180 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,480 and you know, you wouldn't expect less with people like Todd bus Deed, 181 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:43,279 Kathy Buchanan, you know those people involved. Todd directed and did post and 182 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,840 Aaron Fullan did the music. So it was just an amazing time. So 183 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,919 you hear that, and then just hear some of the the impacts from Cindy 184 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:58,159 Finley and Todd just talking about their time in the studio, which I always 185 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:01,159 love that kind of behind the scenes stuff. So what an amazing ministry. 186 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,679 Yeah, you know, to traumatize children go to Africa using this incredible medium 187 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,039 of audio drama to help and to deliver the gospel to kids healing. Yeah, 188 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:16,000 the kids that really the rest of the world neglects and doesn't really think 189 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:20,759 about. You know, what a great thing oh yeah. Oh and then 190 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:22,639 the next section, Man, this was one of my favorite parts of the 191 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,159 day for it. So odyssey is beginning with Phil Ahler and Paul McCusker and 192 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:33,000 just those two in a room together, playing off each other and giving each 193 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,600 other a hard time, telling each other to shut up, you know, 194 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:41,080 like just had us all on stitches, but also just amazing stories. Yeah, 195 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:48,480 almost like a sibling relationship between the Yeah, yeah, yeah. I 196 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,519 heard from so many people that they really enjoyed that, and that's been the 197 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,480 case every year. If there was a main feature segment at any time over 198 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,919 the weekend, that was like one of the one of the top ones that 199 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 people were talking about. Even if they repeat stories the same ones there. 200 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,759 Yeah, still so much fun. But there was a lot of stuff that 201 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:09,720 I hadn't heard before, I think because Paul this year, he brought, 202 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,240 you know, a lot of memories that we haven't heard. Oh man, 203 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,240 yeah, so cool. Too much to try to recap that, just I'm 204 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,720 just so glad that Paul was able to make it this year. Yeah, 205 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:26,679 I mean, it's such a blessing. Well, and that brings us to 206 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,039 the next one, which was a new program to me, Main Street Music 207 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:37,159 show this. I didn't really know what to expect at first, and then 208 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,919 the guy who runs the show and stopped by the ATC table and kind of 209 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:45,759 explained a little bit about it and gave me his card and twisted my arm 210 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:48,559 and said, come to it. No, I'm just so. I had 211 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,840 told him that I would earlier in the day. I said, yes, 212 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,080 I'll come to the show tonight. And I'm so glad I did. Oh, 213 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,559 so glad I did. It was absolutely hilarious. It's a sort of 214 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:04,799 comedy variety show with sketches and fake advertisements and music. Music. Oh man, 215 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:08,080 that the music they got from Liberty. Did you send a few students 216 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,879 to play bluegrass type music? Yeah? They so good upright, bass and 217 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:18,759 and guitar and fiddle, banjo. Oh yeah, that's right. He switched. 218 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Yeah, and it was amazing. So yeah, I think they're on 219 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:29,919 I sat next to him on the plane on the way to Lynchburg, and 220 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:37,440 I think they're on podcasts or something like that. Drama drama okay, okay, 221 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:41,000 yeah, yeah, because he was told me that because of some of 222 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:45,000 the music that they've had in past episodes, they weren't able to release widely 223 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:49,879 on podcast but Spotify has a deal with Music so they can do the royalty 224 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:53,480 part on their side, but on Spotify they are on Drama Fi. Apparently 225 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:56,720 I found that out afterwards too, because he didn't even mention that to me 226 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,799 when he was telling me where to find the show. He didn't mention Drama 227 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:03,200 Fi. I'm like, okay, but I found out later. And and 228 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,319 the talent that they had, the actress just Daniel Cross and I can't remember 229 00:17:08,519 --> 00:17:15,559 all of the ones, Carol O'Brien, and then Jamie was one of the 230 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:19,359 other regular members. Right, Jamie and Daniel are regular and they were just 231 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,200 amazing, just just thoroughly enjoyed that. I will definitely be checking out that 232 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,559 show. And then we wrapped up the night with the late night session with 233 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:36,759 a listening lounge Sentinel Studios first episode of Homicide at Heaven's Gate, another show 234 00:17:36,759 --> 00:17:42,119 that I have already done an initial reaction episode on ATC backstage, and we 235 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:48,720 had Richie Mills up there talking about it afterwards, and was that his wife 236 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,119 exhorted so she does the graphic design I think for the episode. I think 237 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,960 it's so cool that my husband and wife worked together out in audio drama. 238 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,480 That's pretty awesome. Yeah, and that was it's late night session, but 239 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:03,799 there was pretty good sized crowd there for being the last late night session. 240 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,680 Intriguing story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes me want to go 241 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,920 check out the rest of the episodes. And they had quite a quite a 242 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,519 few familiar names in the cast on this one, and one that I didn't 243 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:19,519 remember. I may I may have mentioned this in my initial reaction, but 244 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:23,920 it was a while ago and I didn't remember until I heard the episode the 245 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:30,519 other night. Laura rich Creek was was in this production too, So I 246 00:18:30,519 --> 00:18:33,720 don't know if she's in that particular episode orf she just in the series, 247 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,279 because it sounded like they give the credits for the entire season or whatever in 248 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,720 the at the end of every episode. But so, yeah, there was 249 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:47,279 there was a lot of other words, Andy Harvey's in this, Nato Jacobson's 250 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:52,039 in this one. So so that was the way we wrapped up the night. 251 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:59,240 And then it was an exhausting day and it's their long days, but 252 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:03,119 so so worth it. It's it's so worth it because there's there's just so 253 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,319 much. Yeah, you're learning, you're interacting, just building the relationships with 254 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,359 other people in the space, and so any any final thoughts, Josh, 255 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,799 I always go back to the connections we make and the exhibit hall. There's 256 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,799 you will not find that experience anywhere else this If you are interested at all 257 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:26,759 in getting into this industry, this is the place you have to be every 258 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,240 time. It's it's helpful, but a fantastic day. Yeah, like you 259 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:36,759 said, j D, very exhausting, but but you feel really good time 260 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:38,079 at the end of the day. So yeah, such a such a such 261 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:44,400 a great educational field day and it's wonderful time. Yeah, all right, 262 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,119 we'll be back with Day three.