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time for this week's episode of Final Vans.

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The original airdate June sixth, nineteen
fifty and the title is The Alibi

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Murder Case. Hello Markham, glad
you could make it here at my office.

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I'm very glad you got here.
Just now. What's the big mystery,

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Markham? Why did you want me
here at exactly eleven o'clock at night?

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I'm not sure this whole thing isn't
a gag of some kind vance,

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but if it isn't, I can
promise you some excitement. Well, the

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Strict Attorney is famous for keeping their
promises. I'm glad I came. I

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hope you will be. What's up, Vance? I found a message on

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my desk this evening indicating I could
expect a phone call at eleven o'clock tonight

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that might save somebody's life. That's
what we're waiting for. Well, that's

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fine with me. I don't know
anything i'd rather do. It's one minute

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after eleven, though, perhaps somebody
else did a little life saving, or

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perhaps we'll wait a few hold everything
then, yes, of course? Is

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it? Attorney Markham begging Marcolm.
This is John Green, Windmere Apartments.

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You got my message about saving your
life? Why? Yes? Just what

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is all? Is Green? It's
terrible? Oh what's in trouble? Man?

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I can't talk to you right now? Goodbye? Vans. Did you

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hear that? I certainly did?
Handed that phone book next year? Yeah?

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Thanks, he said. His name
is Green, John Green, wind

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Mirror Apartments, Green Green. Oh, yes, here we are Dell Green.

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If he's in trouble, we can
be over there in ten minutes.

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All Vans, Hello Green, this
is Marcom again. I listen, Filo.

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Vans and I are on the way
over there. We'll be at your

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house in ten minutes. Oh no, don't come. If you tried green

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Green, he doesn't answer vants Let's
get over to his place right away.

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Apparently somebody shut him while he was
talking to you. Marcolm, you've just

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eaves dropped on a murder. Did
the police question Lucy most of the night

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and the morning? Eddie? They
say my husband was killed at eleven o'clock

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or a couple of minutes after,
and they insisted on knowing where I were.

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Figured they would you told them I'm
worried if you were talking much too

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loudly. After all, this is
a public library and some people come here

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to read. You know. Sorry, don't be sorry. Just blow your

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voices if you please. You'll see
the only thing you have to worry about

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is losing your head. You might
have a perfect alibi for eleven o'clock,

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so, by indeed we do.
We were both seen by different people in

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different places at eleven, and the
police are certain your husband was shot at

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that time. I know, Eddie
or you were very clever, but well,

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how did you do it? We
don't go into it now. All

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you have to do is sit tight
and nobody will come nearly that you or

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me I killed John but nobody will
ever be able to prove it. You

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don't have to worry about me.
I love you too much and they're too

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close to me. Right now,
I need to do anything that would hurt

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I. Remember what I said.
All you have to do is take it

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easy. Right now, I'm going
over to play gin with young Bill Steadman.

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You go home and make like I'm
very sorry that you either have to

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stop talking so loud or leave.
This is a library and people do come

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here to read. I know it's
all right, we're just leaving. Well,

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we've done everything we wanted to do. I do mean everything. Remember,

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you keep shuffling the cards, Bill, and you'll rub the spots off

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them. What's your hurry, Eddie. Sooner you deal them out, the

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sooner we get the game going.
Oh, the sooner you win more of

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my money. Huh? All right, any time you want a quick kid,

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it's okay with me. I'm hooked
almost five hundred dollars. I'll keep

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playing. Oh. I was just
figuring how much you've won from me in

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the past month. How much over
seven thousand dollars you could afford it?

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Yeah? And if you can't,
you shouldn't have played nobody hit you on

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the head and made you play gin
with me? You know which somebody had

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hit me on the head before I
started. I want that card. It's

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a diamonds. No use for it. Taking out of him, Eddie.

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How about doubling the stakes the last
thing doing and get out the way you

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got in. Anything to give me
a break, huh anything? Maybe if

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you're not so smart, friend,
maybe I know a way to get some

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of my money back. What's with
that kind of talk? Well, I

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suppose the police knew that you and
the wife of the guy who was shot

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last night, that John Greene,
were pretty friendly. Don't be a baby,

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So I know, Lucy, I
knew the guy too, didn't I.

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I rented my apartment from them a
year ago. I'll keep this game

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going. I knock with three.
That's good. H three queens, three

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seven, three jacks. That's three. I had no layoffs. I got

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eight eighteen twenty four. Wait a
minute, what's the matter those other cards

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you have palmed in your hand.
You've been cheating me. I'd be a

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dope. I have no card.
You just dropped him on the floor.

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I saw you, and I'm gonna
find it. You're out of your head.

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Don't stop choking, you stop her
off. And if you want to

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play that way boys with too much
money, you shouldn't get suspicious as I

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get hurt. Get up, Bill
and pay me off. I get up

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all riding, and you'll get paid
off too, one way or another.

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Look Vans, are you a private
investigator? Aren't you take it easy?

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Mister Steadman? As far as I
know, I am a private investigator.

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Good, then do something. I
came up to tell you that the police

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are looking for the man who killed
John Green, and I know who it

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is. So you said, or
should I say shovel? Well, all

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I can say now is that you're
a whole lot overrated. Vance You're supposed

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to be the guy who can spot
a murderer with his eyes closed. Most

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murderers don't walk around with their eyes
closed. You don't know what I mean

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yet Here I am coming to you
with a perfect case, motive and all,

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and you're not taking me seriously,
of course I am. Now.

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Look, Bill, I know your
mother, I know you. He spoiled

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you a little. You had too
much money and too little supervision. But

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don't think you can come up here
and order me around. Okay, Okay,

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Vans, just answer one thing.
I told you Edward Lee had a

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crush on John Green's wife. I
told you Lee carried a gun and has

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a bad reputation. Why don't you
investigate him? Or a very si full

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reason. The medical examiner placed the
time of Green's death between ten thirty and

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eleven thirty. As a matter of
fact, District Attorney Markham was talking on

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the phone to Green at a minute
or so after eleven when he heard the

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shots that killed him. And Edward
Lee was with neighbors on his floor,

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completely legitimate neighbors who say he was
with them at one minute after eleven.

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Now are you satisfied? Now?
Well the police are we has an absolute

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alibi? Oh he has? Yes? Well, all I can tell you

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is if you think he has,
then you're not as smart as people think

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you are. And Eddie Lee is
a whole lot smarter. Okay, okay,

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yes, Hello, I'm filo Vans. You are and you've come to

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see me. How nice you're Edward
Lee. That's right, you're the guy

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who just pushed his way in here. That's right. Where were there to

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sit down? I'll be through working
out in a minute or so. Oh,

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go right ahead. You won't disturb
me. I just have some facts

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to find out. What pretty good
left hand you have there, Lee or

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a right handed person that is?
How do you know I'm right handed?

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Your belt buckle it's on the right
side. Most people wear their buckles in

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the center when they don't. A
left handed person as the buckle near his

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left hand, and a right handed
person there is right hand, so I'm

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right handed? What you came up
to find out? Oddly? I want

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to know how well you knew John
Green? That again, I didn't know

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him well at all. I rented
this apartment from him about a year ago.

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He took another place upstairs in the
building. You didn't know his wife?

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Sure, she was here when I
rented the joint. What's it to

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you, Vans? What makes all
your character so curious? All of us

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characters? Sure characters, busybodies,
guys that can't mind their own business,

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Guys like you. Somebody killed John
Green? Okay, he's dead. How

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do you figure to help him?
I figured to stop somebody else sometime from

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murdering a person, because they'll remember
that Green's killer was caught. So far

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as I can see Green's killers going
free, You've got nothing on anybody,

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including and especially me. So how
about getting out of here before I go

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to work on you instead of that
bag, I'd rather enjoy any effort you

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made to throw me out of here, you'd enjoy well. Never let it

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be said that I'm a bad host. Never let it be said that I

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didn't see to it. You had
a good time. You have worked on

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that punch long enough to take care
of you. Wow. That, as

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the saying goes, is that perhaps
the tip I got from young Bill Steadman

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about you Lee wasn't But what tip
was that that you killed Green? Anyhow,

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I did have a good time this
afternoon, So thank you very much

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for the entertainment. And Lee.
Yeah, you must come over and see

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me sometime. Eddie Lucy, I
don't want that librarian to come over here

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and warn us again. I do
want to talk to you. I'll be

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careful. Well, what's been happening? Bill Steadman got sore because I beat

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him in a couple of card games, and he wanted to file out Vance

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and told Vance I killed your husband. Oh he didn't, he did,

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all right. Vance was over at
my place to find out a little more

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about Why do you Kireed, you
got an alibi that nobody will be able

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to crack. You will with you
next door neighbor at a minute after eleven.

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But you know I gimmicked everything.
I know you did it, but

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I don't know how you did it. Oh, Eddie, you're wonderful.

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Cut it out the library. Oh, I don't care about her. I

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only care about us. It's about
you and me. Now that John's out

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of the way, quick, will
you cut it out? Oh? Don't

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you realize how loud talking distracts the
other's humans library? Okay, okay,

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we'll be quiet. You'd better.
You're disturbing the others. It isn't only

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the others he's disturbing. He's also
disturbing. Nicky, you want Markham,

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you're just skeleton. Key back right, fans, Eric at the light switching

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right. This is pretty risky business. Fans breaking into an apartment breaking in

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Markham. Yes, you didn't break
in. We used the key, just

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as missus Green would use a key
if she came home right this night.

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Besides, who could arrest the district
attorney? Fans, It's remarkable how you

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a logic can sound so good even
though both of us knew your ad living.

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Now that we're here, tell me
what we're doing, all right?

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You heard of hunches? Yes,
yes, they're the thing a fictional detective

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always follows when he can't find a
clue. Do you have one? No,

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not at all. This is the
spot where I should have one,

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though if that logic of mine which
you seem to light wasn't functioning, Which

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means that there's a tie up between
Green's widow and Edward Lee. Lee is

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very smug and very sure of himself. His apartment is six floors down,

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but the visit here might result in
our finding something that will connect him with

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the crime. This is a room
where Green's body was found at the telephone,

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a gun inches away from his hand, but not the gun that killed

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him. In other words, when
you called him back from your office,

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he answered the phone while holding a
gun on somebody in the room. Fance.

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Is it possible that my call distracted
him so that the murderer had a

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chance to shoot? I'd hate to
think that. I don't believe that's what

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happened. Markham looked through this desk
where you. I'm going into missus greens

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room and see what I could defy
all right if you see anything that's even

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remotely interesting. Oh, Markom,
what happened? Markham? Markham? You

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hurt badly? Where's that phone operator? Operator? Russian ambulance to the Windmere

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apartments. The district attorney has been
shot. I'm afraid he's badly hurt.

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This is Filo Vans, District Attorney. Markham was shot about an hour ago.

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See and I were looking through the
apartment of John Green, who had

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been murdered the day before. Both
of our suspects, missus Green and a

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man named Edward Lee, have alibis
for around eleven o'clock, the time we

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believe the murder was committed. Markham
has been taken to the hospital. I

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am about to go into his room
now, Hello markhams. The nurse said

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I could stay only a few moments. How do you feel? Not bad?

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The bull had just grazed my side. I've been told I guess somebody

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didn't want us at the Green apartment. Vans. Oh, I don't know.

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Nobody fired at me. Well,
then somebody didn't want me that,

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I'd say somehow I'd have preferred being
told I wasn't wanted to. Can't blame

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you for that. I'll tell you
something, Markham. I got on the

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telephone and called Edward Lee after I've
done what I could for you, while

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I was waiting for the ambulance.
Did you reach him? No? Then

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Lee may have shot me. Yes. It could have been missus Green,

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of course, or it might have
been somebody else, someone I've overlooked.

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Who's that Bill Steadman, that wealthy
young man who came to my office insisting

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that Edward Lee killed John Green.
Perhaps we've been on the wrong track right

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at the moment. I don't particularly
care about. All I care about is

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getting out of his hospital so we
can work together on this case. You

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just stay here and rest. I'll
stay here, of course, until the

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doctors say I can go. But
I don't know how I can rest with

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a murder on South in that case, Markamand in view of the fact that

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we started this investigation together and it
must be continued, let's say that you

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remain here and leave the rest to
me. I want to talk to you,

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mother. I've got to go.
I've got an appointment. I'm kind

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of an appointment to gamble again.
Oh me, don't lie to me,

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William. I've known about your gambling
for some time any day now, I

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expect to pick up a paper and
read William Steadman Junior Welt, the young

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playboy rested in gambling raid. I
won't have that, William. I don't

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go to gambling houses. I know
you haven't been going to them, but

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I know you've been gambling, and
I know you've been losing. Vancod often

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said you were overdrawn. They read
me the amounts of the checks you've been

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giving somebody named Edward Lee, and
before that for someone named John Green.

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Well, I had a little bad
luck. Little you had a lot of

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bad luck. And you're going to
stop gambling right this minute. But I

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don't always lose. Look here,
look, thank you. Look see all

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this money I haven't deposited, but
I want it from whom? From John

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Green? Just before he was murdered? John Green, who was murdered?

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Is that the manual playing with?
Why not? But I won this money

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from him while he was still alive, did you, William? Did you

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win it from him while he was
alive or did you take it from him

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after you killed him? Thank you
for coming down here to Markham's office with

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me. Missus Green. That's all
right. I believe you want to be

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with me when I find out something. If I find it out, what

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are you looking for? Some indication
of who killed your husband? Of course,

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Well, Vance, I have a
confession to make. I know you

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know, I think so you shot
mister Markham did? Yeah? Yeah,

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that's what I was going to say. But how did you know? It

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was rather simple? You realize Marcolm
isn't seriously hurt, and I certainly didn't

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expect you to confess your husband's murder. So what else could it be?

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I didn't mean to shoot Markholm.
I came home, saw somebody bending over

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the desk and thought it was a
burglar carried a gun, so I shot.

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Then when I heard you called mister
Markham's name, I knew I'd made

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a mistake, so I ran out. Well, thank you for telling me,

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Missus Green. I'm sure we'll be
able to straighten up the situation.

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Now, would you mind coming in
here to Markham's office with me? Not

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at all than we are now.
I want you, Missus Green, be

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me. I beg your pardon.
Sit here in this chair now. I'm

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going to pretend to be Markholm,
and also pretend this is the night your

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husband was killed. I'm at the
desk. When the phone rings, Marcolm

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picks it up and a voice says, I'm John Green, went mere apartments,

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I'm in trouble, and so forth
and so on, and hangs up.

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Markolm told me what happened, then
went through the phone book here looking

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for your number. What tell you
the number? It's clover six one five

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six one. Oh? Is it? Well? Markholm then dialed the number.

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Of course, you know there won't
be any answer. There's no one

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at my house. You'll see.
I'm trying to do exactly what Markholm did

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the night your husband was shot.
Remember they're ringing missus Green one, I'll

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answer. I imagine that's so.
Well, Hello, hold the phone,

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there's somebody in my house. But
who could it be? I'll let you

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know in a moment. Hello,
who is this? Jinally twenty third pre

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sect? I might duty here?
Who is this? Oh? I'm sorry,

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Donnally, this is final Vans.
Please excuse this call? Right?

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It was a police officer, Oh, Missus Green. Yeah, I've just

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had an idea, a very brindant
idea. Well, if you say so

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yourself, and you said so yourself, so I did. Yeah, Now

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I'm going to see if mister Markham
is well enough to come over here and

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promise him as a reward that I
know who killed your husband and how his

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killer could have a perfect alibi.
I'm a little weak, but I'll be

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all right. Donal leg are you
will, sir? Thank you for helping

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me here to my office. There's
no trouble at all us market Ah,

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here we are. Oh you're sitting
down now, so you shouldn't feel too

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bad. Life you fine? How
I really needed was final Vance's request to

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come down here? What's this on
my desk? What is it? Oh?

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It's not from Vance. It says
called John Greene's house. Alivan says,

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so I'll do it. I'm handing
that phone book. Please sure?

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I think here yard and I called
Green's number the night he was killed,

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but I don't remember his Let me
see we are Green Green John Green windmer

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partner said this what's supposed to happen
after you fall the number? I don't

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have the slightest idea, Donna Lee, but I'll know in just a minute.

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Hello Vans speaking, This is Markham
Vance. Why do you feel all

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right? But why did you want
me to call? Where am I?

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Where are you? Hell? Look, Vance, I'm the one that was

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shot. Remember you're at John Green's
place. Of course, I just looked

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up your number in the phone book. But I'm not Markham. You're not.

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No. I'm in Edward Lee's apartment, six floors below Greens, and

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I'm quite certain I can prove he
killed Green. He's upstairs in the Green

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apartment. Now I'm going up and
have a showdown with him. So you

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see, wee, that's how you
arranged the entire setup. That very apparent

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to me why you did it.
Of course, there's an alibi for your

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whereabouts at the time we thought Green
was killed. They're pretty smart, Vance,

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Holy tell me Markham's office. He
was brilliant. He can hit and

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he can think. That's a tough
combination to beat. Thank you, Okay,

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Van's health. I'll tell you the
truth. I did kill Green.

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The diference kid. He knows I
wouldn't have set up that alibi gimmick if

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I hadn't killed him, But Vans
it it was self defense and I have

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a witness to prove it. Missus
Green, Yes, yes, that's right,

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I'm listening. Was this way I
was up here in Green's apartment.

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The radio was on. I was
dancing with Missus Green, right, Lucy,

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Oh, yes, yes, yes, it is vance. Anyhow,

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I was dancing with Missus Green.
Her husband came in, saw us and

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yanked out a gun. I never
even thought about what I was doing.

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That whole thing happened so fast.
I never even took my hand from around

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Missus Green. Right, Lucy right, I pulled my gun and shot before

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he could. That's my story,
Vans it is. That's right. You

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found Green's gun next to his body, and it's a story that Lucy will

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back up with self depend I admit
I planted the alipi that you bro that

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I rigged up that telephone stunt,
But I did it because I was scared.

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You can really start getting scared now, Lee, I can break your

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self defense story in a minute.
You're right handed. If you were dancing

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and you still had your arm around
Missus Green, how could you pull a

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gun with your left hand. Well, that's what I thought. Another thing,

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that telephone idea of yours took a
little time to plant. You had

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to do that the afternoon of the
night you were going to kill Green.

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And if that's not premeditation, I
don't know. Water you're nuts. You're

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coming with me, both of you, but we can't. Then I'm going

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to explain to Markham just how your
telephone gimmick worked. Start from the beginning.

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Well, the beginning was a year
ago when Edward Lee rented the Green's

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apartment in the Windmere Building. When
the Greens lived in the place, they

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had a telephone, and naturally the
telephone book listed their name and number.

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Then they moved to another apartment in
the same building. What happened to the

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number? It was changed? The
number they had Edward Lee now has h

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If you look up Lee's name in
the new phone book, you'll find it

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as the same phone number as the
Greens used to have. I see what

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happened now. I looked up Green's
number after the call came into my office,

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and happened to look it up in
the old phone book, so that

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I was really calling the number that
now is in Lee's apartment exactly, except

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that you didn't happen to look it
up in an old book. What do

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you mean Lee was here the afternoon
of the murder and left an old book

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in place of the one in your
office. Slot that could be done without

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exciting any suspicion. Yes, I
imagine. So if my secretary's back were

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turned, or if it were done
surreptitiously, I'll grant you no one would

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notice. After that, it was
easy for Lee. He killed Green at

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ten thirty in Green's apartment. Then
he went to his own apartment and called

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you, put on his act,
and went next door. It was neighbors

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to ablish his alibi. The medical
examiner did say Green was killed between ten

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thirty and eleven thirty, But having
heard that shot on the telephone, the

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one that Lee apparently faked, I
was certain the murder took place at a

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minute after eleven o'clock, and so
was I. Lee tried to get away

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with saying it was self defense,
but too much detail had to be established

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in advance of the killing for it
to be anything but murder, No question

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about that. All the things like
my being alerted for something to happen at

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eleven o'clock, a phone call.
It was cut short abruptly so that I'd

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call back. Yes, it was
all too well planned, well planned,

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Markham, but not too well planned, or it might have succeeded. What

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do you mean that stunt of using
the telephone to establish an alibi was unusual,

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but it could be figured, and
I figured you certainly did. Vance.

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You told me missus Green was the
one who fired at me. Did

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she mean to kill me? I
think she was honest about believing there was

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a burglar in her apartment and that's
why she fired. But she's an accessory

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to the crime of killing her husband, so you have her on that charge.

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It seems to me that thanks to
you Vance, she and Edward Lee

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have reached the end of their trail. That's fair enough, my friend.

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And as much as we've reached an
end to the end of the alibi murder

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case, welcome back. Was nice
Vance to be reassuring to the wife that

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he'd smooth things over so that he
wouldn't get prosecuted for shooting the district attorney

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thinking he was an intruder in her
home because he was an intruder in her

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home. That whole conversation where Hans
is talking about how nobody's going to arrest

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them because Markham is district attorney,
and then she's kind of chuckling a bit

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about it might have been good to
there for someone to say, are we

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sure we're the good guys? This
is a series that you know has had

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so many odd moments that it's hard
to buy too much into them getting all

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dramatic after Markham gets shocked, injury
didn't seem that serious. He said,

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he was only grazed, but he
was hurt so bad that he couldn't narrate.

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And when you get injured so that
you can't narrate, I mean that

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right, there is a serious injury. As to the solution involving the murderer

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sneaking into the district attorney's office and
putting last year's phone book in well,

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I mean you cannot go into a
New York District attorney's office and swap out

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his phone book. Even in the
nineteen fifties, I mean I couldn't get

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into the Ada County Prosecutor's office and
swap the phone book. There's just no

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nonchalant way to do that if you
don't have any business being there. I

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don't think we're to the point where
we have listeners who don't understand what phone

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books were. I think even relatively
young people understand that these things exist,

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because as long as businesses continue to
pay to advertise in these things, there'll

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still be around. But for those
who don't understand how dependent people were back

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then. It would be like the
killer sent a trojan onto Markham's cell phone

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to cause Google to pull up the
incorrect phone number. Only in nineteen fifty

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you accomplish this by swiping a book
and replacing it with the old copy of

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the book. But our killer would
never have been clever enough for something that

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was as complex as Hackey, as
illustrated by the ridiculous idea of trying to

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make this into a self defense case. That's his backup plan, but it's

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so obviously premedicated. And it's funny
that Vets points out the whole dancing thing,

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which you know, again is just
kind of adding a unnecessary detail that

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makes it even more clear that he's
lying. Bans picking on that. It's

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kind of like the smallest problem with
the case. It's like if you had

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a case where you had the fingerprints
on the gun and an eyewitness account that

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showed that the killer was at the
scene of the crime and had left covered

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with blood, and you highlighted the
fact that he spelled labor the American way,

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which indicated that he really wasn't British
and was therefore the killer. Well,

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I guess it's Vats showing that even
if our killer hadn't made numerous large

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mistakes, fans would have caught the
small mistakes that might have been missed by

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the last concerned observer. Listener comments
and feedback now, and we have a

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comment regarding the closing discussion on the
World around Murder Case, Raven Rites.

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I was quite surprised by your revelation
regarding the treasure trove of radio transcription disc

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held by Radio Archives and that they
part with these once they've been transcribed.

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I'd like to have a disc representative
of the ZIV Filo Vance program, such

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as the one I just heard on
your website, not to play, just

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to have it. I'm probably the
foremost Filo Vance collector on the planet.

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Immodestly submit my most prized item is
the Clark agnew painting which was used for

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the Dragon Murder case of the magazine
cover with the installment, the Scribner's first

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edition dust jacket, and the dust
jacket of the Grosset and Dunlap reprint,

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and even a nineteen thirty four foreign
language paperback. I want to go ahead

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and address this part first of all, sounds like a great collection. Collections

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that are really detailed are interesting just
because they have so many things that you

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wouldn't think of, even if you've
got a casual or pretty good knowledge of

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the subject matter. Now, I
want to be clear less that conversation left

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anyone under a false impression. Radio
Archives doesn't currently sell old transcription disc It's

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been years and years since I've seen
those listed on their website. And what

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they do have left in terms of
transcription disk the physical media, they are

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donating to a museum, so they
don't have those for sale. If you're

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looking for a transcription disc, you
can find those on eBay, but most

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of the transcription disc on eBay tend
to be at this point Armed Forces Radio

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Services Music disc. If anyone out
there does have a Filo Vance transcription disc

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they would like to part with,
I would be more than happy to connect

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you with Raymond. Raymond continues,
I put on a Filo Vance presentation at

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the Syracuse Film Convention, wrote the
liner notes for the Radio Archives Filo Vans

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CD box set, which still can
be viewed on the internet at the announcement

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of the second set, and my
case Scope magazine one of these having my

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article on the Filovents Motion Pictures was
subsequently select could buy the Xerox Corporation for

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their university microfilms program. I interviewed
Jackson back regarding the ze Filo Vance program.

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It was a comedian soupie sales who
kindly gave me his phone number and

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told me that his soupies Filo caveatch
was indeed a takeoff on the famous sleuth.

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Before phoning back, I sent him
a complimentary copy of the Citadel Peter

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Lorrie book I co wrote. So
imagine my shock went upon asking him if

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he'd gotten what I'd said. He
roared angrily, yes, I got it,

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and it's garbage, garbage, and
hung up on me. I was

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literally walking around in circles. So
taken aback? Was I? The Lorrie

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book was always getting excellent reviews.
Well, I got up my nerve and

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called him again upon his answering,
and he had a most indemidating voice.

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I nervously stammered something like, mister
Beeck, you didn't like the Peter Lorie

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book I sent you? Oh,
he responded apologetically, I'm so very sorry.

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I mistook you for a salesman who
has been pestering me. I used

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what he told me in the aforementioned
liner notes. Gratefully, ray ray that

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is a wonderful story. I think
we've all done that. It was probably

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more prevalent in the days before cooler
ID, but even still, sometimes you

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just don't recognize a phone number.
Thick definitely had a commanding voice. In

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fact, he might have had multiple
because his voice had a lot of flexibility

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and was such a great talent in
that regards. He created characters like Beanie

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Over on the Adventures of Superman,
the Copyboy at the Daily Planet. He

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also did voices that were more working
class, and they've kind of worked a

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bit of his vocal imitation skills into
the final Evans episodes, and that's been

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a positive point for the series.
Thanks so much for the comment, Raymond,

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as well as for the story.
And now we turn to some comments

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on the Money Machine murder case,
and we have an email from Jonathan in

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Las Vegas who writes, Hello,
Adam, I really enjoyed the Money Machine

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episode. Being someone who has probably
touched more money than anyone else you will

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ever meet, I listened carefully to
the show to figure out how the machine

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work. After seeing Mission Impossible and
other spy shows. I really wondered what

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the trick was. When Joe said, you can check it out. It's

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a good bill. I would have
immediately asked to see another one to see

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if the serial numbers were the same
or different. Then he said, I've

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got the paper right here in my
pocket. Also impossible, as the paper

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that money is printed on is a
very special blend that is a special concoction

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of paper and cloth. Whenever a
customer gives me a bill for change,

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I always instinctively snap it and feel
it with my fingers. Modern bills now

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contain holograms and microprinting, which makes
counterfeiting not impossible. But almost every now

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and then, counterfeit bills do make
their ways into casinos, sometimes right out

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of the ATMs. Believe it or
not, if you get stuck with one,

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hopefully unknowingly tough luck, you don't
get your money back from anyone a

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fountain pen rubbing it on your thumb. What a clever, low tech IDEA

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Ballpoint puts that scam out of business
for good. Keep up the good work.

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I enjoy listening to all the gambling
shows, as you know, plus

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all the others yours truly, Jonathan, Well, thank you so much.

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And then we have another comment from
a different geographic location over on Facebook,

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and this comes from Michael, who
writes, high Adam, I had a

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money making machine when I was a
kid. Good to see you can still

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get them. Greetings from Melbourne,
Australia. Thank you so much, Michael.

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And this links over to a YouTube
video of a magic money maker that

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was uploaded all the way back in
two thousand and seven. Believe it or

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00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:31,679
not, and the product from Banishing
Magic is actually still available. The magic

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money maker and the way it works
as you put a piece of paper in,

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you feed it through the machine and
a bill comes out the other end.

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Now, obviously, since they don't
want to get prosecuted by the Treasury

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Department, the imprint does not look
like US legal tender. It's play money.

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But given that this was around when
Michael as a kid, I wonder

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how long this particular trick has been
out there and whether one of the writers

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might have seen the trick and been
inspired to write this episode. At any

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rate, Thank you so much,
Michael. Was a fun video and you

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can find it on YouTube. I'll
try to include it in the show notes.

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but join us back here tomorrow for
yours truly. Johnny Doller. Where

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Johnny Doller? This is mister Oldfield
calling sir. You've left wood at my

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office. Mister Deller, that's right, mister Oldfield. I think I'm gonna

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need an attorney divorce civil suits.
What mister Deller withholding evidence murder? Let's

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take the murder first I don't know, but I'm pretty sure I have the

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murder weapon in my possession right now. Who is kid? A man named

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Belden. I think, what do
you want me to do? So?

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Take my statement, notarize it,
give me some legal advice. Police station

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in the pay booth down the hall
of the homicide in minutes. I hope

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you'll be with us then. In
the meantime, do send your comments to

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