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Welcome to Eye on the Ball Hero
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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He's jagan Zaaliz and we have our
guy Sammy. Sammy, how are

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you? I haven't seen him good
since about a month ago. I know

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Steve's been off doing whatever. I've
been off doing whatever. Yeah, and

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Jay's been doing all We're doing whatever
whatever, because we're all doing whatever.

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That seems to be the theme.
Whatever is at this point. It's whatever.

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Basketball season's over football season though,
I was gonna I know, you

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know, Sammy and I are into
the baseball thing, but it's kind of

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whatever. It's Master's Week. It's
Masters week. That's that's I'm exciting att

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Yeah. In fact, we're canceling
the next two shows, but oh really

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we are at because of Steve though, because I'm leaving one Phoenix's Scott.

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He's heading out again. So the
day on my hometown. Yeah, I'm

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tired of being here all by myself
with an intern, and I just don't

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want to be here. I think
that's smart. Take take, take a

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couple of days off. I got
some catching up to do after this month

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of n C Double A tournament.
Stuff. Well, the good news today

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is, as of a minute or
two ago, at least I didn't check.

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Uh, no one's gotten to the
portal. No one else in the

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portal. Yeah, I think,
uh, you know, I would imagine

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the thing will thing will settle fairs
on in terms of guys leaving, you

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know, the rest of the guys
that are here seemed to be the guys

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that Tommy Lloyd would probably be counting
on for next year. He's got to

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get some new guys and we'll see
how We'll see how it turns out.

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But you know, it's gonna be
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assuming that Kylon Boswell does ultimately leave. And that did that lineup started all

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but one game, and that was
on Senior Day when when uh, Tommy

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let Grant Whiteman start Senior Senior Day
game. So and he too has entered

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the point, and he too has
entered the poort. You know, he

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he could go somewhere and play.
Yeah, sure, you know, small

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schools somewhere maybe, I don't know, you know, just one of those

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great academic schools. Get a nicety. He's got a degree from here.

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Just get to find a place to
play, you know where he'll get to

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play. Sure he put in the
work. He played well in that last

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game, in that one game.
Yeah, but you know, you you

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come in as a walk on you
you almost never get to play. But

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you do all the work. You
know. He deserves to go off and

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get a chance to play. That's
what you'll do. Okay, back to

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business here at the station. There's
it's pretty quiet. It's been quiet with

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now. You know. What we
haven't talked about, and I don't know

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enough to talk about it at length, is the football spring train and spring.

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Wow. Yeah, we haven't gotten
that. They play. They do

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it at our time. They do. We can't go to the practice.

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So there was a scrimmage on Saturday, but we were a little busy.

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We were up in Phoenix. Yeah, so I think. But what I

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here is things are going well.
They're putting in new things and burbage and

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all that. Yeah. Uh so
we'll see what happens on the Spring Games

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later in two weeks. It's I
think it's two weeks from this Saturday,

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yeah, twenty seventh. Yeah,
Ok, yeah, I think it's two

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weeks from Saturday. You know,
we'll be definitely go out to check that

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out, but you know, having
had chance to get out there. But

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you know, what you hear is
that it's kind not easy going. But

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I think what we what I heard
from somebody is they're just more involvement,

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you know, of guys, more
more people, more more guys you know,

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playing and practicing, and a lot
less standing around. Well really you

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know by that, I mean,
you know, just a lot of guys

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getting time in. And maybe it's
just because, you know, because Brandon

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wants to see what he's got,
Right, you're checking everybody out, not

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just not just the guys who are
on the too deep or whatever. You

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know, they're kind of checking everybody
out so that you're getting a lot of

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a lot of looks at a lot
of different guys. That makes sense,

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And it's not to say that Jed
didn't do that and something didn't do just

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just the point being that you know, he's out there trying to learn who

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these guys are. Sure, because
he didn't recruit him most of them.

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Okay, what else nothing? Nothing
from the women's too basketball. No,

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you know it's hard to leave lose
players when you don't have very many.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly those seven
you know, we're key and two of

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them are gone because of because of
used having used eligibility. So you know,

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I think you'll start seeing people.
You know, the portal is open,

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so guy, you know, players
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out. You know, I did
see something. One of the Purdue guys,

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one of their one of their guards
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Gillus has jumped into the portal.
And it's not a case of today today.

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Uh, you know, it's still
something that really gets me, hurts

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me is the Facebook and what's going
on Tommy? You know this and they're

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jumping ship. Tommy must be doing
this whatever, you know, not making

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people. It's the way of the
world, right, It's it's what it

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is, Steve, you know,
and we we we talked about them,

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spend a good time talking about it
at lunch today. Is that guys,

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it's professional sports with unlimited free agency, right, pretty much a guy,

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you know, a guy or a
girl, you know, anybody is playing,

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they're at a place, they like
it there. But then somebody comes

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along and says, well, you
know, we can get to another one

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hundred g's if you come over here. Do you think that's really the case?

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That much money and that much you
know? Okay, well, dude,

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do the math on this, okay? And that this is this is

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I was like you skeptical that you
have that much money. Go ahead,

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John Calipari, you're gonna give me
facts. Okay. John Calipari is getting

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five million dollars for nil from the
Tyson Food Company right in his contract to

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spend on players. Well, how
many players does can Kentucky basketball have?

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Fifteen? So you're talking three hundred
thousand or on average or more per player

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they got? They get about ten
because the five hundreds okay, okay,

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then than ten players. This is
so you're talking on average. This is

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like baseball. You get scholarships,
half scholarships, quarter scholarships. Okay,

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Steve, but some Okay, But
are you gonna tell me he's not gonna

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spend it all? No? No, no. If that's by the year,

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right by year, that's the case, Arizona has no chance. If

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that's the case, U c l
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case, tons of programs have no
chance, have no chance. You're doing

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a sense of like you of A
U c l A, U s C.

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There's still we're still gonna be able
to give people and I OL money.

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Yeah, there's fewer. There's fewer
Kentucky basketballs than there are Arizona U

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c l A. You know,
it's just that some schools are going to

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go out and buy the best players
that they can buy. Sure, and

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they're gonna get that. That doesn't
mean they're gonna be great, though,

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because you can go by a player
and he can suck. No, No,

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you've seen that. So all I'm
saying, though, is that you're

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you're you were saying, though I
can't believe it's that much money. Well,

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yes it is. Well let me
tell you something. Okay, I

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get that because he back Apparently he
went back to Kentucky and said can you

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do this better? And they said
no, say good good luck to you,

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take care of don't let the door
hitch in. Yeah, okay,

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now, Arizona, we don't know, realistically, we do not know what's

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in that. We don't know,
but we've heard I haven't tell me.

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We've heard that it's in the two
million dollar range. Oh really just for

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just for basketball, that's what I've
heard. It gets you at sweet sixteen.

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Well, what did it get Kentucky
or Arsaw? Well, I mean

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you look at the frontal fourteen.
It's like and for Steve and I that

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look, I threw that number out. That's just a number I heard somewhere

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that two million dollars on confirmed journals
and confirmed journals. Yeah, I'm throwing

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it out there that there's two million
dollars in in in nil money. And

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that's Tommy Lloyd may be listening right
now. I'm going I wish you'd shut

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the hell up because that's just not
true. Well, and he's also and

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we talked about this because I did
the story on him. He and he

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said, and I know he means
this because I've heard it from other people.

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Arizona's not a place that they're going
to pay their guys to win,

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right. You got to want to
come here to win, right And if

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there's if there's something there for you
will get, you know, we'll get.

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Yeah. No, I said,
I don't see. I don't think

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Arizona's out there handing out half million
dollars. But you know, what do

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we think Bert Lopez gave is giving
uh a team act? Well, I

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know they're doing there. I won't
say I know the number on that.

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They're doing a podcast and all that
stuff. They could be making a ton

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of money, who knows. But
I'm going I'm going back to your point

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though, right where you know where
you said I can't believe it's that much

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money, But yes it is.
It is not everywhere, but in some

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places. We're talking about that kind
of money. Weas and Caleb Williams,

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what do they say is making seven
million bucks millions. Well he's got endorsements

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too and things like that. I
know, but still there's money like that

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there. And it's and again it's
free agent money. It's like you heard

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Matt Painter. Were you at the
press from Painter? He said, he

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said, you know this has been
going on, but now it's not open.

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But this is happening. Guys are
getting a lot of money to play

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basketball and football. Yeah, no, I get it. It's one of

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the reasons, the other reasons why
we talked about these yesterday with the with

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her saying I don't I don't want
to do deal with this. It's I

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regret this. Can you imagine what
this is doing though, all the way

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down to like eight year olds,
a ten year old, twelve year olds

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and their parents, well, what
they're doing to them to drive them to

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this payday? You know what?
What what? What? What? What

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parents were doing with their kids with
golf, you know, with with Tiger

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because the Tiger Woods. They were
doing this in the AAUS before. Yes,

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they were with the bags and say
here, pick up the pick up

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the water burger bag over here.
But I'm not talking about it. But

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you know the pressure that is going
to get put on kids, no question,

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to get to this when they know, now I can get to this

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in college, right and I don't
even have to become a professional athlete an

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NFL or NBA player to make maybe
a couple of million dollars in college.

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What kind of what are parents going
to be doing to their kids? Because

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it used to be, especially in
basketball, like that's why the whole one

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and done thing was so big of
Oh, I gotta I gotta make my

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money. I gotta just go to
college for a year and just make so

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I can make my money. And
now they've eliminated that step completely to where

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now if you're good enough and you
make it to college, it's now not

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even about getting a free education.
Of what a lot of parents were like,

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Oh, I want my kid to
get a scholarship for sports to so

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we don't have to pay tuition.
Now it's like, what can they do

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for me? Well, what it
could do and maybe maybe I'm thinking out

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of the box share or not correctly
that they stay more than one year,

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Well, that's that. That's a
that's they can say three years getting paid,

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which means because if you're a bet, if you're a border thing,

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if you're a borderline, then a
guy who may not make it in the

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NFL may not make it an NFL. I'm going to stay four years here

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and make a half of That's why
cling Look at clinging for Yukon the big

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he could have gone to the G
League or overseas last year, but he

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realistically was probably thinking, I'll come
back to Yukon. This team is great,

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I'll get an I owe money and
we can win a national championship.

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Right and then get and then now
he's getting talked about as being a first

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round draft right, Well, look
at the guy you just mentioned without mentioned

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his name, Caleb Caleb, I'm
not going to play in the Bros this

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year. Stay here. I can
make it whatever whatever that number is,

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right, And you gotta know that
if Caleb Love would be really dumb,

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if he was not shopping himself around, right, and that's what I was

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gonna say, or play somewhere else, to me, he would be he

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would be really doing himself a disservice. All these guys do because of COVID.

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This is the final year of COVID, this is the last straw,

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so after this it should be pretty
normal. Yeah. The only ones pretty

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normal, pretty normal in terms of
Beligi. The only ones who didn't I

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think were Key Shod and uh and
and even and right he can come back.

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Yeah, who's key shot in?
I think that may have been in

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because white Man said he's going somewhere
else. Key Shuttle is one can.

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Then you're wondering why the universities broke
because they have to more scholarships for lasting

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years COVID, all this stuff.
It's a wrench in the system. You

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know, Hey, we'll get more
on this, maybe get some calls later,

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But to what do we have today? Jay we've got uh, we're

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gonna get our first chance to talk
to the new Sugar Skulls head coach,

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Billy Back. Uh. He's uh, he's a first year he's been he's

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been around the Indoor League for a
lot of years. He's got five championships

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under his belt in various leagues.
Most recently he was with the Frisco Fighters,

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one of the newer teams in the
Indoor Football League. He's now the

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head coach at the Sugar skull So
he'll be joining us here at about three

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twenty after the first break, so
we'll be kind of introducing ourselves to him,

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and he'll introduce himself to us well, find out a little bit about

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him. They've got their home opener
is sat this Sunday, three o'clock in

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the afternoon at the two Sun.
So it's a it's a home opener for

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the Sugar Skulls. Their fifth season, the Fish twenty nineteen, twenty three.

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Yeah, their fifth season, fifth
season, but they didn't play one,

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right, so they played in twenty
nineteen, did not play in twenty

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twenty, then twenty one, twenty
two and twenty three. Okay, so

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arena arena, Yeah, inter publy
and then at four to twenty, Clancy

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Shields is going to come in.
They've got a big match coming up against

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Utah this weekend. They want to
get a big crowd out there. I

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believe it's Senior Day and so they're
having an incredible year. We'll talk to

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him about what they're doing. They're
coming off of PAC twelve Championship and looking

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to win another. One one of
the top teams in the country. They've

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had some big wins this year.
So Clancy will be joining us at after

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the second break in the after the
first break in the second half. Okay,

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so let's get out of here and
come back with Sugar Skulls. All

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on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth. They Hey, welcome back to why

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on the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen
fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jaginsaus

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who are just waiting from coach black
back back back back. Ye okay,

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milly billy Billy Beck. That's a
perfect name for something and maybe like a

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cowboy football billy back. Yeah.
So no, well, uh, you

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know, first year for sure,
but a number but he's been around a

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while and he played, he played
sometime. He played six years in the

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in in indoor football, uh,
and then went into coaching. So he's

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been around the he's been around the
indoor game for a long time. Went

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to Miami of Ohio. Yeah,
so okay, so well I have a

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special question to ask him, just
reading his kind of bio here. Yeah,

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fairly young guy. Yeah, but
you know this is this is a

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year five for the for the Sugar
Skulls. What do you what do you?

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What do you? What do you
see has to happen? Because five

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years is you're not you're not young
anymore. Yeah, A nice playoff run

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where people get you know, because
I feel like, you know, they

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can have a good year, but
you know, people away like the wait

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for winners. Right, if you
have playoffs, you know, people people

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who don't normally maybe come to your
regular season and say, oh, it's

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a playoff, right, and you
get him in the door, and then

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then they you know, then you
hope they become fans. Well the first

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year they went to the playoffs,
right, they qualified as the first they've

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they've been in the playoffs two of
the four years, three of the four

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years, and and Tucson in the
summer. You got to prove it to

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him otherwise. Yeah, yeah,
and it's fun, you know, I

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you know, I've not been to
a game as a spec dat right.

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I was the media guy. I
did the TV for the last couple of

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years, which was fun. But
I, you know, going to see

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it as a spectator I think would
be kind of fun. Yeah, it's

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different different, Yeah, okay,
so yeah, I'm texting with the media

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person at uh at the Sugars to
see if maybe you forgot it, got

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into a meeting or something. But
we're waiting for for coach back to call

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it. But you know, well, well we'll see. I'm there one

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in one. Uh. They they
uh, they lost their opener. Uh

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and then they won at Duke City
last week. Uh, your boys up

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in Albuquerque. Uh, you know, had a nice win. I think

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I see a lot of new faces. But Mike Jones, the running back

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who's been has been there from day
one. He's back. Who's the quarterback?

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Let him? Yes, I don't
remember the day because I did that

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story last year. And the kid
from New Mexico, Yes, not him,

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it's not him. Uh. You
know, some new faces, so

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we'll uh, you know, we'll
see what you know, what he's got.

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But the quarterback looks really good.
Another big guy, Lefty he's a

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left hander. Let me ask you, and I want you to be as

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honest as you can be. I'm
always as honest as I can be,

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which I mean, I may be
full of craft but I can but I'm

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honestly full of crafts. So when
they first got here, when the Sugar

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Schools decided to come here, you
were not part of it. You're just

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a normal dude. You were not
part of the team. You were nothing.

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Well no, I mean they they
didn't. They announced you were when

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they when they announced they were coming. It was that day that I called

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Mike Vader and said, I want
to be part of the team. So

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that's what because I was working with
my tour, so I wasn't. I

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wasn't part of it. I wasn't
part of them coming yet. Okay,

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so this doesn't taste your thought.
What did you think it'll succeed? It'll

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what did you think I thought it
could work? Because one, we don't

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have minor league baseball in the summer, right, Okay, I thought there

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was an opening for a professional I
thought football would be good. They were

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gonna need to sell the hell out
of it in terms of this is your

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community team, which they've done to
a degree. I think they did it

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more better. But Mike and I
were you know, involved with the team.

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But I do think they've got a
bit of a following, and and

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so I thought it could work.
And look, it's this is the fifth

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year. To me, that works
now, you know, are they going

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to be here in another five years
or whatever? I don't know. I

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think there was some hope that it
could draw uh, you know, uh,

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better than it has. But you
know, the truth of the matter

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is too that in the summertime a
lot of people leave. Well, okay,

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the owners, you know the owners, I know one of the owners.

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Uh, they have this pie in
the sky vision because they're in Phoenix,

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right, and they have a great
following, right, And they said,

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if it works here, do you
think that thought was in their mind?

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Oh, of course it was.
And it's not the case. It

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absolutely well. It hasn't gotten to
the level of the rattlers. And and

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it's hard to know to Steve,
because it was going pretty well. The

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first year was really good curiosity.
Uh you know, we I mean we

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drew for really good crowds. There
was a there was a five thousand,

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a crowd of five and a couple
of fours that year. COVID really really

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really hurt this, you know,
sports like this, because now it's like

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whatever momentum you had was gone.
You know, you were gone for a

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year, and you were you'd only
been here a year, so people were

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just finding out about you. Then
you were gone for a year, and

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now you're trying to get those people
back. And so I think that really

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that couldn't come at a worse time. And and you know, uh,

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but I know that hurt the hell
out of the Sugar Skulls too. I

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mean out of the Rattlers too,
because that first year back, I remember

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talking to Kevin and their attendants had
been cut in half from from the from

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the return. I don't know.
I haven't paid attention to do whether or

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not they've gotten they've gotten the number, I do know, but they've moved.

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They're out at the Glendale Arena.
Yeah, and and uh and so

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you know, I don't know.
Uh, I think I think on first

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glance, you think, yeah,
this will work a lot of fun to

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go watch, uh some another activity
to do in the summer when it's hot,

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you can be indoors and enjoy a
beer or two, you know,

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and and I've been to a couple
and it was different, but it just

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hasn't cut on to what I thought
it would, that makes any sense.

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Yeah, and maybe that was just
me, but you know, two and

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a half thousand, sometimes three thousand, uh probably they probably need to get

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to your four or five. Yeah, you know, the four thousand,

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You know, four thousand was sort
of a target in terms of if we

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get four thousand a game, we're
gonna be doing really, really well.

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I think break even was kind of
like twenty five hundred a game, which

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you know, yeah, the amisture
needs to but you know, you get

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four thousand in the in the in
the Tucson Arena, that's a good number.

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It's loud, it's a lot of
excitement, it feels you know,

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you know, it feels like a
good, good number. And they haven't

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been able to get there get to
that consistently. And again, like I

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said, you know, winners draw
Tucson fans and so uh, I mean

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think, you know, I think
back, this is a long time ago,

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but I think back to that one
year that you know, the Kenny

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when Kenny Lofton was playing for for
the Toros and they won a championship,

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and there are a lot of people
going to those years. People will follow,

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you know, they'll go to your
games and say, hey, you

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know they're winning, let's go let's
go see what that. Sure, see

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00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.160
what that looks like. Sure even
in the summer when it's hot. Yeah.

408
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.839
Yeah, I just I just let
the sugar Skulls know that if coach

409
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.920
can call maybe at three thirty five, because we're running out of time for

410
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.680
this segment, we wouldn't have much
time to talk to them. So if

411
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.839
you want to move on to another
another time, we were talking what were

412
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.960
talking about before we left. We
were just talking about this whole college college

413
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:03.240
uh n, I l think it's
just turned everything upside down, you know.

414
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.400
Again having a conversation with the old
guys that at my lunch today,

415
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:10.799
they said, they say it's ruining
sports, and I said, well,

416
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:12.559
if you want to say it's ruining, that's right. I sai changed.

417
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.920
I think I prefer to think of
it's changing it. It's we just got

418
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:18.960
to get used to the effect that
it's different. And if you think the

419
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.720
change ruins it for you, then
okay, you know it's it's ruined.

420
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:27.319
Free it's not ruined because it's still
happening. There's still fans, one hundred

421
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.279
thousand fans coming out to games.
You know, Arizona's still going to draw

422
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.359
forty five to fifty thousand a game. We're still going to tailgate. So

423
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.279
it's not ruining it, it's just
changing it. So, Jay, of

424
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:42.599
that two million, supposed alleged supposed
whatever, you want a word and your

425
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.920
group of ten, you could have
twenty, you can have ten on Wednesdays,

426
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.920
how many of that group of ten
throw a little diamondto that two million

427
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.359
dollars? Not into that two million
dollars, but we throw money in for

428
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.759
tickets and going to games and being
a part of it and tailgate party.

429
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.960
There's point. There's my point.
So all the people I see on Facebook,

430
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.960
yeah, bitching, complaining, don't
I guarantee you they're not putting money.

431
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.960
They're not putting money into and they
want they want this, they want

432
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:17.759
the shining car, but at somebody
else's experience, Well they want better bathrooms

433
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:19.920
at the stadium, but they're they're
not handing you money to help build those

434
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.920
better right right, right, So
you know, here we are, there

435
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.559
are a lot of a lot of
complaining, but uh no, helping,

436
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.599
and I'm not surprised by that.
It is what it is, and that

437
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.839
two million, I wonder where that's
gummy from, just out of curiosity.

438
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.319
Yeah, I like, you know, because because who do we talk to

439
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:44.920
you yesterday, let's say yesterday where
it's the the booster booster where you have

440
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.240
to have here pie, this pie, that pie, this pie. How

441
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.640
many pies do you have? Well? Again, that's that's another thing.

442
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.079
That's another change, right. The
boosters are going to have to get used

443
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.480
to the fact that they're gonna need
to come up with more money. If

444
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:03.240
they want their if they want their
their program that they love to be competitive,

445
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.359
they're gonna have to come up with
more money. And that's just the

446
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:07.480
way it's gonna be, sure,
and that's the way it's gonna be from

447
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.880
now on. And if you don't, then you become New Mexico State,

448
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.240
New Mexico State. No. No, hey, let me tell you that.

449
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.160
When I was going through you mextioned
to watching Mexico bul Uh in December

450
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.079
I think it was uh, and
they were doing some commercials on the radio

451
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.119
about nil. I'm thinking, where
are they getting the money for this?

452
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.680
Because they're it's not a rich state. You know, you have your supporters.

453
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.200
In fact, when this NIL started
two three, two couple of years

454
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:33.640
ago, I don't know if you
remember this movie, we had this conversation,

455
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.440
would you rather if you're a you, if you were an athlete,

456
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.000
you're gonna go to LA to collect
this because it's a it's a big metropolis,

457
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.359
but a place where nobody cares kind
of, Or you're gonna go to

458
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.359
a college town where everybody cares.
Yeah, And that's that's the thing.

459
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.920
It's like, you look at even
like the NC State run, you're they're

460
00:29:52.960 --> 00:30:00.200
dominated by Duke UNC even like other
ACC teams and NC States, the team

461
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:06.079
that made this deep run, and
they get overwhelmed by those programs in NIL

462
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:11.160
and whatnot. But now that you
look at DJ Burns or the other guys

463
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.359
there, they're they're gonna be better
off now than some of those like the

464
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.720
eighth guys on Duke or the guys
that could have gone to NC State and

465
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.079
played and that are sitting on the
bench. So it's it's one of those

466
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.799
things where there's a lot of give, there's a lot of take, and

467
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.400
right now it's very these programs are
in adapt or die mode pretty much.

468
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:34.200
Sure. Well, now I think
the nil game will have to be stepped

469
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.920
up. Give the big twelve right, Oh, absolutely, defus released basketball

470
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.200
right Okay, I've just got to
know back coaches and try and call us

471
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:45.759
during this next break. Okay,
so we should have it for the next

472
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.799
segment. Let's go and take Let's
go take a break right now, and

473
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.880
he'll cost in a few minutes.
We'll have him on the line when we

474
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.240
come back from break. So stick
around and we'll hopefully have Coach Billy back

475
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I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jaginsauce now NFL.

514
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:52.319
We have Billy batd Twosons Sugar Skulls
head coaching. Billy. How are

515
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.759
you. I'm doing great, Thanks
for having me on. Great to have

516
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.680
you on the show. Two games
in, right, Brad, Two games

517
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.720
in? Uh you guys, one
so for you know, first year.

518
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.799
So tell us a little bit about
what attracted you to this job. Why

519
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.159
are you in Tucson? Well,
the city itself, you know, and

520
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:12.840
I took the job, I took
the trip in and I didn't realized how

521
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.679
nice of the city Tucson was,
the you know, the area itself,

522
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.119
the practice so we have here at
the Keno Sports Complex. You know,

523
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.280
there's there's no there's nothing else like
it in the IFL. And I just

524
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.920
feel like they've they've had a successful
five years so far, and it just

525
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.000
was a spot where I wanted to
be. Let me ask you a dumb

526
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.920
question from my end right away is
how does a baseball guy become a football

527
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.800
coach? Well, when I got
released playing baseball to find something to do.

528
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.760
It's terrible nine to five jobs,
got fired from a foot locker and

529
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:45.039
finished line trying on the twos too
much. I went to a flag football

530
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:51.119
tournament and there was a Columbus Ashore's
AFL team passing out flyers for a tryout,

531
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.679
and I took it and went to
it. And you know, twenty

532
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.840
some years later, I've been doing
this for my career. Please tell me

533
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.400
you were a shortstop, second basement
or a centerfield there. I was a

534
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:06.079
middle infielder, third stream catcher,
utility guy. Okay, that makes sense.

535
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.599
Okay, So so you've been in
this, in this sport and the

536
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.199
indoor sport for a long time.
What why, I mean, what do

537
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:15.679
you what do you like about it? What's kept you going in this?

538
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:21.679
In this business? Well, I
just you know, you get second chances.

539
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.679
You know, I played back in
UH five, I got to work

540
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.880
out in you know, in Cincinnati, and I'm thinking, if I get

541
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.079
a chance to do this, somebody
that's better than I am a football should

542
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.760
have a chance to do this.
And so it's just been trying to get

543
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.519
guys second chance. It's the second
Chance League, getting guys opportunity to get

544
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:38.559
you know, get seen, get
film, get back to the NFL,

545
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.440
or get their first shot in the
NFL, CFL, not the UFO.

546
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.800
But it's just you know, I
get a coach football, get paid to

547
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:51.239
do it, be around great man, great ownerships, great coaches, and

548
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:52.679
you know, it's just been something
where I've been blessed to be around great

549
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.800
people and have to have success,
and that's propelled me to where I'm at

550
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.800
now. I guess that's part of
your message, right you you were this

551
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.559
guy, now you're one of them, and now you're a coach. Yeah.

552
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.440
Yeah, those who can do those
who can't coach. So that's what

553
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.480
we're doing now. All right.
So so you're in Tucson. You know

554
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.599
you've had You're in this industry.
You're gonna have a lot of different jobs,

555
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.480
different places. You were in Frisco
most recently. When you come to

556
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.920
when you come to a new place, well, what are some of the

557
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:23.679
first things that you do? What
do you what are you trying to establish

558
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.360
right away? What do you what
are you looking for right away when you

559
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.679
walk in the door. I want
to establish the culture I want set,

560
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.199
you know, I want certain guys, I want certain chemistry, you know,

561
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.559
we're gonna look a certain way.
We're not gonna have shirt tails untucked.

562
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.199
You're not gonna have the white T
shirt hanging out past our butts.

563
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.960
You know, I'm I'm big on
addressing for the job you want, not

564
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.039
the job you have. And so
the first things firstus. You know,

565
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.679
I got a strict how we look. You got to look the part,

566
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:52.039
You got to act the part.
You know. Then I want that in

567
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:57.920
the attitude. So just building the
culture and then finding the people we want

568
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:02.280
to build that culture with just the
mentality. I'm okay. We led the

569
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:07.599
league and Personal Files the last two
seed three seasons with the best record last

570
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.639
three seasons, So you know,
I'm okay to having bullies out there that

571
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.960
we's got to produce too. Right
when you come to it, you place,

572
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.480
like Jay said, do you look
at film and say I want that

573
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.960
guy, that guy, don't want
that guy, don't want that guy.

574
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.000
How do you how do you find
your guys? Yeah? Wee hundred percent.

575
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.320
I looked at the films, We
looked at the players that were on

576
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.199
the roster last year, what defense
went under, run, what offense we

577
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.280
wanted to run, and we kept
the ones that we thought weren't soft.

578
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.880
You know, we had a couple
of soft players from last year's team.

579
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.519
They ran a more of an umbrella
defense. We want to be attacking,

580
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.960
you know. And so we we
only signed back five players from last year's

581
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:45.599
team and just felt like that we
could build with young guys and build a

582
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.440
new culture, a new attitude.
You know. Our first thing there told

583
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.840
me, the ownership said, we
haven't won ten games since we've been in

584
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.079
existence, and so I'm thinking we'll
shoot that's that's a goal then, yep.

585
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.840
And so you know, to teach
young guys what we want him to

586
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:00.519
do, how we wanted to do
it, opposed to going with guys said,

587
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.400
well we did it this way last
year. You know, you don't

588
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.039
want that kind of attitude. You
want guys that are bought in and we'll

589
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.440
run through a brick wall for you. So walk us a little bit through

590
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.639
the process of Okay, so you
only kept five guys from last year,

591
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.320
so you got to build a roster
of twenty five. You know, where

592
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.880
are you looking for players? You
go get players that have played for you

593
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.079
before, players who played for you
last year. What's that process? Yeah,

594
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.599
I got a director of player personnel
who lives in Spokane, Washington,

595
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.920
who absolutely knows everybody across the country. And we just started off with the

596
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.159
quarterback position. When to find a
guy that's athletic, that's that's calm,

597
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.559
it's poised, tough. You got
to find the right center, right nose

598
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.079
guard. You build up the middle. You know your quarterback, your center,

599
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.480
your nose guard, your middle backer. We love t Ferrell from last

600
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.840
year's team, one of the best
linebackers in the league. He's fast,

601
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.800
physical, first gay, we offer
back. We love Mike Jones, he's

602
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.039
been a staple in the indoor game
for years. And then we build off

603
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:04.400
those guys and you know, the
left guard, Dallas Rains or just pieces

604
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.960
we wanted. And we had to
find man beating receivers to you know,

605
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.039
you know, staytionary. You want
you don't want to get too many,

606
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.719
too many chiefs. You got to
have some Indians with the chiefs, you

607
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.840
know, some some some jag players
that just that know their role. And

608
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.880
we found a good group of guys
that are hungry. They're still learning the

609
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.400
game. We make mistakes still,
but you know, you build from the

610
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:28.599
quarterback down and we think we got
a pretty good one and a middle linebacker's

611
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.599
pretty solid too. Just from listening
to you, I either feel inspired or

612
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.400
scared. I'm not I'm not too
sure. But how did the players take

613
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.559
you? They taken you all right? Well, I mean I'm five nine,

614
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.639
one hundred and eighty five pounds,
so it's kind of like a little

615
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.840
chihuaha run around here. You know. My nephews call me Lord fardquad Track.

616
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:51.480
So but no, I just I'm
straightforward with them, and I tell

617
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:52.320
them what they don't want to hear, you know, what they need to

618
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.119
hear now. They don't want to
be sugar coated. I'm telling you,

619
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:58.199
if you're terrible, you're terrible.
You know, you got to get better

620
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.480
at this. And you know,
I grew up watching Bob Huggins and coach

621
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.760
the Unison University Sincinnati Bearcats, you
know. And if I said customerd to

622
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.599
the player, he can say it
Cussford back to me. Now we're communicating,

623
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.400
That's what's the most important. And
so you know, we just got

624
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:14.320
to get it any way we can. All right, So you're you're one

625
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.159
and one. Uh. I got
beaten the opener, but came back with

626
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.039
a nice win up a Duke City
next week. You got your home open

627
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.519
home up and on Sunday, tell
us a little bit about what you've seen

628
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:27.119
so far, you know, areas
that you're doing well, areas that you

629
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.519
think you need some work. After
the first couple of games, yeah,

630
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:31.719
you know, for the first game, that was the first time our guys

631
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.880
have been between the walls, you
know, we practice outside. We had

632
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.119
four players that's played this game before
everybody else were rookies, and to compete

633
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.480
and have a chance to beat nas
like we should have, you know,

634
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.159
who had a game prior to us, who practiced the entire bye week,

635
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.639
which you're not supposed to, and
then for those guys to look as crisp

636
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.400
as they did us and us look
as bad as we did, but still

637
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.000
should have won the game. Late. You know, we were kind of

638
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.559
inspired coming out of it, and
we made some changes after that game because

639
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.320
we had some soft some soft tail
tails and some situations we had to had

640
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.679
to change some players out. And
then going to Duke City, you know,

641
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.679
it was kind of a different adversity
situation where you know, defensively we

642
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.159
were still filling things out, you
know, and it was a tough dog.

643
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.159
You know, they always play your
hard they're like those kids across the

644
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:16.840
rairoad tracks where you're going to get
a good game, but you may not

645
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:21.760
want to come back with your basketball. That's how Duke City always always plays,

646
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.519
and so we feel like we should
be too. And oh, but

647
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.559
at the same time, we look
at that first game as kind of a

648
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.840
component game find of what we have, what we need, how we're going

649
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.719
to fix it. And then game
two is basically game one. You know.

650
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.519
Then now we got game three against
the top team in the league,

651
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.519
you had, defending champions, and
so we'll see how good we are going

652
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.760
up to them. We feel like
we had a good a good chance,

653
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.199
a good game plan. It just
comes down to execution. Now, so

654
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:51.000
as we go, we've we've seen
the team a couple of times here over

655
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.159
the years. Who's your quarterback and
what do you like? The name is

656
00:41:54.199 --> 00:42:00.440
Malite Mitchell from Cleveland, Ohio.
Went to Kent State and the mac transferred

657
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.599
to Farris State up in Michigan on
two national titles with Farris State. He's

658
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:09.760
a left He's about six' four
two fifteen smooth operator, doesn't get flustered.

659
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.639
Left. He throws small arm angles. He's athletic and he's a kid

660
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.679
that should get a shot at the
next level. He's the type of guy

661
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.639
at the CFL. They look at
him the Canadian Football League. He's a

662
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.719
third down quarterback up there that can
sling it across the field but also can

663
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.719
carry it toe to and run it. But he's a guy that we hope

664
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.239
to have here for as long as
we can. But he's he's a special

665
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:37.000
character. Looking at the quarterbacks and
the Sugar Skulls previous teams, they've all

666
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.000
been big guys except for one year, and that was just because the guy

667
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:45.400
they had decided not to play that
year and they had to scramble for a

668
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:51.159
quarterback. But they've all been big
guy, big sixty four six three sixty

669
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.519
four, physical guys. I mean, is that the formula you do?

670
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.960
You have to have a guy like
that? No? No, last year

671
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.480
I had a quarterback in Frisco the
league MVP named TJ. Edwards. He

672
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:06.880
was six. He just was a
smart, smart player, great runner.

673
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.079
It's where my league. You know, it happened to be the size he

674
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:14.199
is, and uh it just as
long as they're smart and athletic, that's

675
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.480
what's important this league. So before
you got here, we don't. Jay's

676
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:21.559
related to the to the not related
to that's wrong word. He's been in

677
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.079
the system with the shooter skulls.
I've covered it as a journalist. Uh

678
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.079
what did you think when you were
coming here? For the guys? They

679
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.760
love to win, They love to
win, so pressure, what what's that

680
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.239
thought? Wow? I love to
win too, and so I think it's

681
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.960
a great combination with this, you
know, the last you know, we've

682
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.239
had a couple, you know,
two losing seasons in my entire career.

683
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.360
I just feel like that each game
has got to be focused on that game.

684
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.039
But coming in here and the expectations
of having at least ten wins is

685
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.840
reality. You know, we don't
want to be eight and eight and we

686
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:52.360
want to be shoot ten and six
in the West is going to get you

687
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.639
a one or two seed right now? The way that the parody is to

688
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.840
out. So our goal is to
win the rest of the games from here

689
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:00.639
on out, But the most important
goal is to win the last game.

690
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.199
Okay. So we build these guys
each game, we should be better and

691
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.199
better each week. Okay, So
we have to ask this because it's just

692
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:13.880
it's just a thing. Your ownership
group, your your ownership has is one

693
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.599
of the owners is the coach of
the Arizona Rattlers. How well do you

694
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:22.079
know Kevin guy? And what's that
relationship like in terms of your teammates,

695
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:28.519
but your opponents as well competitors.
How's that working for you? It's it's

696
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.000
working great. You know. Kevin's
Kevin is the best coach to do ever

697
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.280
do. That's going to be honest. I mean he's been successful on and

698
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.360
off the field with the Rattlers the
years he's been there, and he's been

699
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.320
great. He's the one that actually, you know, flew me in and

700
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.880
showed me around the city and he
and I you know, we talked football,

701
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.960
we talked everything around. You know, we laugh and joke about,

702
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:51.559
you know, his love for the
University of Alabama. You know, even

703
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.800
play Sweet Home Alabama his games because
he's he is from Alabama. So but

704
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:59.159
he's been terrific. You know,
he's been great with us, and you

705
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:00.239
know he wants to Song to be
successful. You know, he wants to

706
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:05.760
win in Arizona, but you know
he wants Tusson to be successful also,

707
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.320
as long as it's not against Arizona. And so you know, our plan

708
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.039
is to beat him and we've we've
had success against him the last couple of

709
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.679
years. Yeah, you know,
he's a competitor, all right. So

710
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.320
your opener is, as you mentioned, against the Bay Area, they're the

711
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.159
defending champs. What do you know
about them? And you know, what

712
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.039
can we expect to see in terms
of what's that game gonna look like for

713
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:29.000
the fans who show up. Well, Bayer has got two great head great

714
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:30.599
coaches. You know, Dixie Wooten
was a head coach here in the past.

715
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.559
He's now the offensive coordinator in Bay
Area. He's got his quarterback that

716
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.360
was also here to Kwan Neil at
Bay Area. Those two guys know their

717
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.840
offense like the back of their hands, and so they're gonna be They're gonna

718
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.760
be fast, they're gonna be efficient, they're gonna be physical. It's gonna

719
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:50.039
be a tough game. You know. Their defensive coordinator, coach Keith,

720
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.239
has been in the in the indoor
game for years and he's very fundamentally sound

721
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.960
when it comes to mixing up defenses. So it's going to be a chess

722
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.840
match for sure for us to figure
out what they're doing, for to figure

723
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.519
out we're doing and try to stop
each other. So it's I'm looking for

724
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.760
it to be a high scoring game, but ultimately hopefully we come out with

725
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.079
the victory. Well, coach,
we really appreciate your time. Good luck

726
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:14.039
this weekend. I appreciate it.
Thanks for having me on. All right,

727
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.920
thank you, coach, good luck. Coach. Back, he sounds

728
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.199
like a defensive back. You will
knock you, Yes, he does sound

729
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:22.840
like he would beat your ass.
Yes, and just in a heartbeat,

730
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.920
just for the hell of it.
How you doing and give you a chest.

731
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.039
Well, it's interesting because you know, uh, there's look, there's

732
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.679
always a lot of movement around the
league, both players and coaches. This

733
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:42.599
is the Sugar Skulls fourth coach in
their five and this is their fifth year.

734
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.679
Well that kind of tells you how
how important winning is to that.

735
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.519
Yeah, you know you you heard
Dixie Wooton is that is at the Bay

736
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:53.800
Area And actually if you recall one, you recalled their head coach got let

737
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.800
go somewhere time the middle of the
year. Dixie sat stepped in as to

738
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:04.239
finish as the head coach and won
a championship his second. So it's interesting

739
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.679
how things are in you know,
in this game, it's just uh,

740
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.920
you just never know what you're gonna
wind up with. Yeah, well,

741
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.000
let me ask you. We get
five minutes left. If anyone want to

742
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.039
call police, do five to two
four one, six, seventy four forty

743
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:19.519
And I don't want to poo pooh
an answer, an answer from you.

744
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:24.400
But so you've seen rosters from all
over of the rosters twenty how many twenty

745
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:29.119
two, twenty two in the roster
twenty five or twenty five? Okay,

746
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:31.079
so you saw a lot of people
play, yeah, good enough to play

747
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:37.400
at the next level. How many
I probably saw three or four of the

748
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:43.440
not just here. I'm talking all
low all over, so three times a

749
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.760
handful. Yeah, you know,
like like like that's the dream, like

750
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:51.800
he mentioned to kwan Nea, Okay, you know, in the right situation,

751
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.880
he's he's not as good obviously,
but he's Lamar Jackson, all right,

752
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.000
a bigger one because the March is
not a big guy, right,

753
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:07.360
He's not like six four He's like
Dakwan Neil is a big dude with a

754
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:15.280
rifle arm. But I think maybe
just missing a few of the intangibles.

755
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:22.559
Uh Physically, I will say I've
seen a lot of guys who look physically

756
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:28.760
uh, the part to be able
to play in the NFL. You know,

757
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:32.119
big dudes, stronger, they have
the body right, but you know

758
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:37.360
there's a little piece of that,
the the the the the mental, the

759
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.800
mental piece of it, the mental
like you that's what trying to get it,

760
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:45.840
The mental like q of being you
know an NFL player. Uh maybe

761
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.400
the want you know how hard you're
gonna work to get there, uh be

762
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.320
being able to pick things up.
So I'm gonna say, I've seen a

763
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:59.480
lot of guys who look the part
that you know walking through the airport,

764
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:04.480
they look like they could be an
NFL well, but then but then you

765
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.880
see some of the things that they
do, like in a game, and

766
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:09.920
you go, Okay, that's why
he's not in the league. Bad judgments,

767
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:15.920
bad decisions, bad judge like Mike
Jones get the running back. Guy's

768
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:21.360
got the heart of anybody who could
be in the league. But he's just

769
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.960
he's not fast enough. But essentially
he's just not big enough and faster.

770
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:30.960
He's for the size he is,
he's not fast enough. Okay, if

771
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.119
he was a little bigger and as
fast as he is, then he could

772
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.960
probably play in the league. So
he's missing a piece, right, he's

773
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.320
just you know, but he's a
really good Football League player, you know,

774
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.119
And there's no shot, there's no
shame in the no, no hell.

775
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.760
You know, guys getting played paid
to play professional sports. You and

776
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.599
I have never got paid to play
for professional sports. No, none at

777
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.800
all, not yet yet. I
got his golf kid. So the one

778
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:59.360
thing that I thought was funny was
the big dude, the big dude who's

779
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:05.719
like temper Oh, Antonio Rosal who
finally got kicked again again. There's a

780
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:12.400
dude had everything except that. Yeah, he's a big dude, physical,

781
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.599
mean, is all hell, but
to the point of being a detriment to

782
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.599
his team, right, he couldn't
and he couldn't get there, you know,

783
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.519
nice off the field, nicest guy
you'd never you know, sir,

784
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.639
this sor that, you know,
just totally nice guy. And I'm like,

785
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:34.920
who's that guy that's just creating chaos
on the field. I remember that

786
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.800
game. Yeah, got thrown out
and you never saw him again. We

787
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.960
never saw him again. Actually I
did see him once somewhere. He was

788
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:45.559
working a security guard somewhere. You're
not going to mess with him, Okay,

789
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.400
okay, cool. You have plenty
of breaking news in the complement.

790
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.920
I got a decent amount. All
right, good stuff. It's it's I

791
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.119
feel like sports is winding down.
It's not because going on, but I

792
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.679
just feel like, Okay, the
Final four is over. It's a big

793
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.199
breath as soon as it's called basketball, and then it's a whirlwind for a

794
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.719
month essentially, even before like conference
tournament, and then you lack that uh,

795
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:12.840
that dopamine of watching your team win
lose. But you know, I

796
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.320
like having baseball on every day,
you know, you know, it's like,

797
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.079
you know, I've got an investment
in the Major League Baseball package.

798
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.679
I've got baseball on if I watched
you know, I was working this morning

799
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.519
at my desk and the Dodgers were
playing the Twins today. You know what's

800
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:30.320
really weird and baseball is really the
only sport that can do it. And

801
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.000
just this speaks to baseball. But
it's like random Wednesday at ten forty and

802
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.199
guys, are we got four games
on? Right? It's like, well,

803
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.800
what are we doing? Yeah?
Yeah, which which it's it's neither

804
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.079
here nor there. But I love
it. You love it. You can

805
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:45.599
have it on, yeah, And
you know what, while I will not

806
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.519
sit down to watch an NBA game. If it's not in the playoffs,

807
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.800
I will sit down and watch a
baseball game. Come on, Jay,

808
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.360
we got a good slate tonight of
NBA games. Games that means something tonight,

809
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.400
Well, yeah, because we're it's
in the season right about that.

810
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.119
The three to four against Sons were
horrible. I don't want to talk.

811
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:07.920
I'm assuming that's nothing your breaking.
We played it down like six or so,

812
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.119
yeah, but then we did.
We came back and we had it

813
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.119
within nine in the fourth quarter,
and we played we played the Clippers again

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tonight. Do you know do you
get points for almost nothing? But like

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at least I don't know. I'm
overreat. Come on a break, talk

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about the talk about Arizona fans getting
on Arizona. These guys were brutal on

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the We can we can talk about
it in some of the breaking news,

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Okay, all added in there,
All right, breaking news coming up with

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with Sammy and then uh after the
first after the break, uh, next

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hour, we're gonna have Clancy Shields
uh talking some U of a men's tennis.

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They're they're raging through the Pac twelve
and he had a big match against

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Utah this coming weekend. So stick
around for breaking news,