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Yeah, ripped news need advice?
Who you don't have? Come running just

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as nass as we can. Show
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This is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hey, Tom Martino

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here, Welcome to the show.
Three oh three seven one three talk three

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oh three seven one three A two
five five another day another I don't know

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dollar two dollars, five dollars,
one thousand dollars, whatever you make in

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today. Welcome to the show.
Thanks for being here. Let's talk.

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I gotta tell you it. It
simply amazes me that with this show on

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the air for all these years,
and for my Sleeze Brigade and all the

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other calls we have taken, we
can say that we have never had more

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complaints ever, ever than from Jeff
Jolliffe. In my opinion, the man

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should be in prison. He is
a thief and a liar and a scumbag,

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and he's had a number of different
companies. If you go to Sleavesbrigade

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dot com you can read about some
of it. The man is I don't

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know. I swear to God,
I don't know how anyone in the world

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doesn't know about him. By now
you gotta put the word out. This

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guy is such a scumbag. I
don't even know. I mean, I

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don't think. I think he totally
exists on lies. Totally. He takes

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money and does nothing. He's a
crook. Now in cases where people come

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back to complain and take their car
back because he doesn't repair them by the

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way, he doesn't do what he
says, But when you come back to

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complain, in many of those cases, the cars end up stolen. The

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guy is I don't know how to
put this a scumbag. If you don't

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do anything else, please do me
a favor and at least get the word

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out. Now, why do I
bring him up today? Because I have

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a caller on. Let's talk to
him. Eric, Hi, John,

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good morning. Now have you ever
called me before? Oh? No,

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sorry, I have not. Now
did you know that we have gotten dozens

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and dozens and dozens and dozens of
planes like this on Jeff Jollify. The

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only reason I'm aware of it is
because I just had my experience with him,

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and I decided to google him,
and that's when I saw your yes,

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sir, and then so that's why
I emailed the show. Now would

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I have known prior I wouldn't have
gone to him. Now, let me

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ask you something, when were you
stung by this guy? So I just

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turned fifty in March, and for
my fiftieth birthday is March twenty. I

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about myself a corvette and it was
a cheap corvette, you know, I

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needed a transmission and stuff. So
it was like, how'd you find him?

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How'd you find Tom? I was
looking on Facebook for transmissions in it

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and a specific transmission I need.
He has an AD or six or so

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ad on Facebook with different names and
different cities like Birdtt and Johnstown in Loveland.

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What name is it? What name
is this clown using? Now?

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Well, he I can't remember exactly, but when I met him, he

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said that was his dog's name.
It was a Xander with an X or

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something. Because then I called him
Xander. He's like, no, my

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name is Jeff. That's my dog's
name. I'm like, oh, did

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he say Jeff Jollis? Yeah?
And what what's the name of the business

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you did business with? Come on, you must know, yeah, yes,

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it's Mountain View Transmissioning Gear for Mountain
View Transmission and Gear. And then

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what did you do when you called
him? Did he sound good. Well,

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yeah, he was a silver tongue
devil, so to speak. And

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he said, yeah, you know, I could do it in a day.

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And I was outcited because I didn't
have my first corvette. And so

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Mountain viewed transmission and gear. Yeah, and it's that three fifty five Mountainview

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Road, Birch at Colorado, Okay, number fourteen Mountain View Road, Okay,

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number fifteen fourteen, sorry, fourteen, unit fourteen, got it.

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It's a storage unit, right,
Well, yeah, they're they're big,

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big rental. That's a big storage
building. It's a it's at Atlas Roger

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and Storage at Gateway Park. Okay. And what did what did you do?

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Did you have to give him money
up front? Yes? I so

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I spoke with him, and I
and I had to take the transmission out

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of my car, and which I
did. And oh wait, so you

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didn't take the car to him,
No, No, I just took the

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transmission, all right. And uh
so I showed up there and I met

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him, and he sounded, you
know, there's all kinds of transmission stuff

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in there. And what did you
pay him? I gave him nine hundred

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cash and do you know he's and
then what else did you give him?

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Plus the transmission and the transmission?
Now, I want to tell you something.

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Do you know he has never completed
a job yet. I have a

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feeling. So what happened? When
did you drop this off? Okay,

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so I dropped it off at the
end of March, I'd say, like

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the twenty fifth or so, and
he said, you know, it'll be

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a day. And it was two
weeks before I got it back. And

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he said, oh wait, you
did. Wait whoa, whoa, whoa,

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There is a miracle afoot here,
ladies and gentlemen. You say,

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wait a minute, no, you
just there might be a miracle. You

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said, you actually got it back. I did get it back. Hold

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on, that alone is a miracle. A miracle. I mean, I

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am like flabbergasted that you actually got
it back. The heavens are opening.

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What happened? Then? Well,
there's a catch to it. He was

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supposed to get me a rebuilt port
converter with it, and when I showed

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up to pick it up, finally
he tells me he sends me to Denver.

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He says, go to see my
guy in Denver and sends me to

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go buy my own and torqu converter. But was the transmission rebuilt? Well,

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it was repainted. Let's say,
do you know if it was rebuilt

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or not. Oh, he claims
it it was, but I uh,

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after after drive put it in the
car in the beginning of April and three

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weeks ago, three and a half
weeks ago, you know, the gears

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went out in it. Oh,
and it failed and it failed. It

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failed in how many weeks from I'd
say March twenty eighth to May twentieth,

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May fifteenth th something. Okay,
now here's what I want to know.

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Don't ever take your car there with
the failed transmission. If he says take

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bring your car on all to fix
it, because then it'll be stolen.

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That's what that's what he told me
to do. And I said no,

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thank god, because your car would
have been stolen. Yes. I called

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him back and told him it failed, and he said bring it back.

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Something broke and it was no big
deal to him. He's like, just

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pull it, like I have time. I'm a single dad the two boys.

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I run my own paint company.
I'm like, ye, okay,

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I don't have time to pull it. So I pulled it again and I

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took it to him. Tom and
he said the same thing a day.

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Ok okay. So I dropped it
off and I got it back last Saturday.

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So it was ten days and I
put it in Saturday night and Sunday

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I drove it for nine minutes and
all the gears are gone and it's full

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of sledge. Yeah. So I
don't know. Twice and took it to

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him two times. Now what that's
why I called him. I called him.

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I called him again and he said, he tells me to pull it

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again a third time, and he
said, I said, I don't have

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time and I don't want to pull
it. He said, my guy will

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pull it for five hundred bucks.
What is this guy? Where does it

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stand right now? Right now?
It stands that I told him that he

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needs to refund my money completely.
He won't, And now you can take

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in the small claims court, but
he doesn't care and there's nothing to collect.

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The guy is a crook. In
fact, does he have a phone

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number we can call? We need
to bombard this ass and get him out

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of business. We got to get
him out of business. I have two

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phone numbers for him, and they
both work as of yesterday. They did.

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Okay, Now these are probably new
of okay, numbers, I want

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them. What are they? One
phone number tom is nine seven zero six

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eight nine five zero four seven,
Yeah, and the advertised one for Mountain

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View Transmissions that I had been getting
hold of him on prior to this other

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number, which the other number I
just gave you work yesterday. The other

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number is seven to zero three three
three nine five four eight, and I

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had spoke to him both of these
numbers this week. I want people.

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We got to get him out of
business. Yeah, I'm on a mission

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to get him out of business to
save people. Jeff Jollison is a cruck

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and a liar and achieved. I
could not afford this, and I splurged.

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After my fifty year old fifty birthday, I bought myself book. Well,

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hold on, Eric, I'm gonna
give you some truth right now.

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You're ready for some truth? Yeah? Okay, the truth is and I

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mean this sincerely, he's never gonna
change. Don't go back to him,

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don't use your money, don't waste
your money. You're not going to get

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your money back. You're not going
to get anything. You got to move

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on. I hate to tell you
this, bro. You gotta move on

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because this guy, is I figured
as much for the least that I could

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talk to you and maybe get to
worry out even more. Then that's good

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talk. Mark is here, Mark,

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Mark? Mark? Hey good to
hear. Hey, Hey, hey,

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hey, hey, Mark, listen. And I'm serious. I'm not.

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I'm not talking politically now, but
I'm talking about verdict. What do you

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know anytime you say you're not talking
political, No, what I mean is

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I'm not. What I want people
to know is I'm not trying to bash

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or promote anyone. I'm trying to
ask, what do you think the verdict

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will be? Serious? I would
say, if I was a betting man,

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which I am on occasion, I
would say, we're going to come

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back with a hung jury. But
I do think we have a possibility of

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an acquittal. But I'm guessing it's
going to be a hung jury. So

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the question is how long is it
going to take a man? These people

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are sick and tired of sitting there. So Mark, I think because of

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the venue and where it is in
Manhattan. I think you could get There's

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no way you can get an unbiased
Jerry. First of all, that's well,

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I don't know, man, I
still have confidenaith. Well, yeah,

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I don't even want to say faith. I want to say confidence in

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the individual. I understand you might
like, like I don't like Biden at

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all, But if I was sitting
at a criminal trial, right it was

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evident he didn't do anything wrong,
I simply couldn't. I couldn't throw a

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guilty at him, thinking you know, oh, I don't want this guy

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as president next year. I just
even the dis I know you wouldn't.

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I know most people wouldn't. But
I'm thinking about, then why do we

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say? Why are you even alluding
to that? I was going to explain

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people in New York, Well,
I was going to explain it. What

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I mean is I don't think they
would intentionally say to themselves, yeah,

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the guy didn't prove the case.
Bragg didn't prove the case. But I

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hate this guy. I want him
to be president. No. But what

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I think is this. I think
when they are hearing the evidence, I

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think they convince themselves he is guilty. But now I heard the jury instructions.

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I mean, they believe it or
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the judge was a little straight up, and I think the guys as crooked

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as he gets. Man, But
I think the only time, and I

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think he has to do it now. I'm listening to a lot of pundits

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and a lot of them say the
same thing. He has to give a

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certain set of instructions. And I
listened to all of them coming back,

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or at least as reported from the
courtroom, and I don't see how any

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of them, any of these jurors, let alone all of them, find

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him guilt. So once again,
I think an acquittal is possible. But

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god, there's probably one more on
in the twelve but maybe not. Maybe

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they all are honest. We're gonna
find out. I would hope in the

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next couple of days. Get this
man back on, get him back on

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the campaign trail. It is unbelievable
that one side, one side of our

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political party is going after the biggest
composition who's leading in the polls. And

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then how about this Robert de Niro
freak out. Oh my god, the

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guy sounds like he should be in
a rubber room. Man. I don't

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even understand what he was trying to
say. Man, he was calling him

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a punk and a gangster and oh
my god, Hitler basically, oh,

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I mean god, it was nuts. Man. It see, and I

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think the people are sick of it, and I think, okay, I'll

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go right to some stuff. I
think people coming over illegally from Mexico and

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other places, or people that came
over legally, I think they're sick of

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it. They're like, hell,
we left this kind of stuff to come

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over here, and this guy is
gonna ruin this country. And I'm talking

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about Biden. But then when you
see some wacko like DeNiro get up there,

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Oh my god, what did you
notice happened to this guy? Where

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he's that angry mark. I'm on
mailing lists because I'm an registered as an

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independent. I'm on both mailing lists, and I'm getting all the Biden Harris

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promotional emails. I'm sure you are, now, no I am, and

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I'm getting I'm sure you are.
Now you should too, because it's very

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enlightening. Do you know how many
almost every email has a celebrity attached to

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it. He is, Biden is
big with celebrities, I mean big.

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He's like Okay. See this is
where I don't who even cares? Man?

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No, But what I'm saying is
to god, who even cares?

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Well, I'm telling I'm just saying
something. I think people obviously must care

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because they're they're putting them in every
email. I mean, well, and

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they're also losing money at the box. I mean, with the exception of

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a few theaters, I mean pretty
much everything goes to Netflix. Now,

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I mean, they've destroyed their own
industry. No one cares what Tom Cruise

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has to say. I mean,
honestly, guy, how come when you

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take someone like that that's in scientology. I think that's Tom Cruise. You

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know, there's nothing ever ever talked
about how wacky that is. But by

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the way, speaking of Cake de
Naro, and he goes in and he

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goes off on some just tangent.
That's unbelievable, man, I mean,

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the guy's out of his skull.
Speaking of Julia Roberts, by the way,

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is one of his favorites. He's
on a bunch of stuff, and

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there are all Clooney is Clooney is
part of list and man, the American

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people are sick and tired of these
elite people. Whether they're politicians, or

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they're the elite Hollywood, which is
becoming all the same. They're sick and

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tired of this crueling class. They're
starting to understand when a guy gets up

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there and goes, you're not black
unless you vote for me like Biden,

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did I mean that is racist within
itself. Well, lamarl A's starting to

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come around, thank god now speaking
of that. The racist thing. Honest

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to goodness, I've said this before. I would be so insulted if I

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was black and had to hear everything
Democrats do is because they want to protect

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black people from racism. No,
they're basically saying, you can't live your

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own life. Only I can tell
you how to do it. But it's

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crazy. It's even worse than that. What they say is this, we

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have to decriminalize, we have to
take away crime because you commit too many

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crimes. That's really what they're saying. But the reason, but the reason

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that's even worse than what people are
imagining right now, is because most of

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that crime happens in their own neighborhoods. It's crazy. And then, and

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then what I hear these policies doing
is saying, well, we have to

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change shoplifting. Why did they do
that in California because it was racing and

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Walgreens, Walmart, all these restaurants. Everybody closes up. I don't know

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what's left. You get the point, though, isn't it insulting blacks to

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say to them, yes, if
we don't take they're starting to realize that.

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Yeah, they're saying to you,
well, you know, I know

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you black people aren't going to change
your behavior, so we're going to have

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to decriminalize things so we don't penalize
you too much because it's racist. I

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swear to god, I wish I
don't know if to leave's on, I'd

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love to hear his perspective. I
think they're pandering, and I'd love it

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he's not on today. I see
he sometimes signs onto the YouTube more on

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stream. But anyway, you want
to check what the mayor of Boston wants

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to do. She wants to decriminalize
theft and about ten other crimes and have

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absolutely no pease action on any of
these things. It is so scary tom

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now. But the reason they give, the seated reasons are they feel like

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the laws are too racist against blacks, and they'd say hispanics too. But

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here's the point, is that how
hypocritical is that my gos insane man,

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And we've already proven it doesn't work
to defund the police doesn't. And by

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the way, by the way,
you know we're talking issues here, So

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if there's anyone offended, here's what
I'm going to tell you. Bye.

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Troubleshooter Show, and James wants to talk

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two. Let me quote Robert de
Niro, Donald Trump is a monster,

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and just imagine how dangerous it will
be if he becomes president again. Let's

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make sure he never returns to the
White House. Well, he's going to

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ruin the world was another line or
destroy, But Biden restored decency, compassion,

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honest, intelligent leadership. But the
man can't walk. You notice every

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time he tries to leave a room, he has no idea where the hell

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he is. I can't wait for
these debates, James, what's going on

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with your brother? To hey,
man, can you hear me? Yes?

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Sir? Alrighty. So I don't
know where else to turn. Tom,

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what's going on Gilbert? He is
in Arapahoe County jail. He I

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don't really know what's going on because
of the charges that they have against him.

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Well, what are the charges?
They're holding him on? First degree

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first degree murder? Yes, holy
crap, I don't believe that for a

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second, Tom, Well, no
one ever does. But let me ask

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you, how did this all happen? Though he didn't just show up there?

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What happened? So my mother had
come down to my house, and

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my mother has a restraining order against
my brothers. So he left and I

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don't really know what happened. But
we have been starting our business. Well,

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hold on a second, hold on
who he's not accused of killing mom?

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Is he no? No, no? When what does that have to

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do with the story. Tell me, tell me a logical story. I'm

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gonna listen. So we were starting
our business and we go and we collect

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really nice furniture and we sell it
for a propert. Okay, who is

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this you and Gilbert? Yes?
And what does that mean? You go

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and collect furniture from where like people's
homes, you know people who are selling

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like nice furniture, you know what
I mean? Yeah, when people are

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on vacation or out of town.
And I'm just kidding. Okay, yeah,

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So you buy furniture and resell it. Okay, I got it.

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Keep going. Okay. So we
had met these people at their house.

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I guess I just lost their estate. So we were going to just pick

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up the stuff and take it.
We were gonna have to pay for it

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this time, so it was a
deal. They they offered the furniture free.

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Yes, okay, well the free, the free, the alert that,

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and that's how we found them.
I get it. So they were

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giving away furniture and you and your
brother. What was the name of your

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business? So it's gonna be ju'll
a berry and vermillion? What was it

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somewhere? Oh, never mind.
So you had a business that bought and

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sold furniture. Yes, okay,
now, because I can't run this by

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myself. Okay, you had a
business that bought and sold furniture, and

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and something went terribly wrong. You
you found these people that were giving away

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furniture, and what happened? And
they gave us some furniture on day one.

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Okay, we didn't have enough room
in our vehicle to take it all

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back, so we scheduled for the
next day. Okay, the next day,

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I'm out here selling my furniture and
stuff. My brother went back,

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everything was fine, came back home, we unloaded everything, and then the

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third day, my mom came over. My brother couldn't be here, so

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he decided to go back and finish
teking the rest of the stuff from me.

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Why does the mom Why does the
mom have a restraining order against Gilbert?

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Because she's they have a whole long
history. Put what happens? So

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he goes back to third time?
And what So he goes back to the

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third time and I don't know,
Tom, they were chilling. No,

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is someone dead or what? Yes, who's dead? Is the couple who's

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dead? I believe. I'm not
sure I believe the man that I had

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met, the husband of the journalists
that I really want to get serious here,

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James, you guys were here with
you them, You guys were picking

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up furniture. The next thing you
know is that your brother is accused of

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killing one of them. Yes,
I'm sitting here selling my furniture, trying

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to get rid of this stuff because
we lost our stories, so we had

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to bring all of our stuff here
to our home, in our condo,

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and we can't have it here because
hoa. So I'm trying to get rid

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of this stuff. I'm here.
My brother went back to go finish collecting

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the rest of the stuff while my
mom was here bothering me. Yes,

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well, I waited all night.
I waited all night. I was worrying

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nothing. Finally I get a call
from my brother's ex and my mom telling

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me that nine News is saying this
and nine News is saying that about guilt

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about Gilbert. Yes, hey,
now Gilbert. I want to know name

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is Gilbert accused? And well,
first let me ask this. Does Gilbert

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have a criminal record? Just be
straight yes or no? Yeah? What

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kind of what kind of a criminal
record? Nothing Like first, it's just

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like, what do you even have
a felony? He doesn't even have a

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felony? Just miss the mirrors,
Like, Okay, has he ever been

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violent? Yeah, he does have
a record of that. Yes, Like

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what give me an idea? Just
fights? Just now now, James James,

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I want to ask you something.
How old your brother Gilbert forty three

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and the man that he killed or
excuse me, allegedly killed. I'm sorry,

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sorry, I mean that, thank
you, the alleged victim. I

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don't know how old he is?
Like now, James, I want to

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ask you seriously. I want you
to ask something really serious. James,

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James, why do you feel it's
impossible? Now? Now, if if

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somebody told me Mark murdered someone,
I'd say it's impossible because I know him.

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But what about your brother makes you
feel it's impossible because I know my

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brother. My brother may have fought
people before, but he's always been the

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person to take care of the other
person, no matter what we are,

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life savings? How was it?
How was this other guy murdered? How

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was this other guy murdered? The
news says that he was shot. Did

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they find a murder weapon? I
don't know it's not that anything about no

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murder weapon. Well, first of
all, does your brother? Does your

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brother have an attorney? No?
He final guns or nothing? James,

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does he have an attorney? Oh? Sorry, No, no he doesn't.

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Why can't afford it? Well?
Did you know that he can get

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one of a public defender? Right? Yes, I'm supposed to speak with

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the public defender right when I get
off the phone with you. I've just

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got that information my brother. So
what are you calling us about? This

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is shocking, This is terrible to
happen. But man, I don't know.

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I don't know him from anywhere.
I don't know you. But you're

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saying it's impossible he couldn't yet he
and his mom don't even get along.

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Plus he has a string of misdemeanors, some of them violent. So I

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don't know, Gilbert. Let me
ask you something. What kind of do

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you know? What kind of evidence
they have or anything? What did the

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news say they haven't released anything?
Mark? Are you reading the story?

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Yeah? I believe so. The
last name starts with Vias and Victor,

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right yeah, Vermillion, yeah,
Vermilion. It basically says this an adult

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man. Oh go ahead, Mark, go ahead, an adult man died

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after a shooting and aroar of Friday
night in a suspect is in custody.

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Officers were called to report shots fired. When they arrived, they saw an

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adult man leaving the scene in a
vehicle. The car then crashed nearby,

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and the suspect, identified as Gilbert
Vermillion, forty three years of age,

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was taken to a nearby hospital for
injuries received from falling out of the vehicle

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when it was wait and was in
police custody. So that's it. There's

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nothing else, man, I see
that right now. Yeah. So he

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was seen leaving the scene of the
murder and then he eluded. Why I'm

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just asking this guy. We don't
know what happened, we weren't there,

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but just what can you imagine?
He goes back to this house for the

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third time, there's gunshots fired.
Then he's absconding from the house, eluding

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the cops until they chase him down
and basically pitt maneuver or do whatever,

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and he jumps out of the car, falls out of the car. Then

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he's arrested. Why would he be
eluding? Did it say he was being

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chased? Yes, an adult man
died after Yes, it says he was

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being chased. They saw an adult
man leaving the scene in a vehicle.

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According to police, the car then
crashed nearby. Yeah, but they didn't

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say they were chasing him, right, well, okay, I would assume

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they were, But no, I
didn't get that. I'm sorry. I

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just meant, did it say that? It said his moving Oh wait,

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attempting to flee the scene, according
to police. Anyway, So listen,

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this is you know, James,
I mean, this is terrible, James.

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I gotta take a break. Hold
on, just hold on. I

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want to see what you need now. Now, hold on, Tim.

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Tim has a comment to please hang
on, Tim, you say something about

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the victim. Hold on, we'll
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O three seven one three talk three oh

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three seven one three eight two five
five. Now James had called in saying

409
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:47.519
his brother was wrongly accused of killing
someone. Now James has no idea of

410
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:52.480
the facts, nothing. All he
knows is his brothers in jail for first

411
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.319
degree murder, but says it couldn't
have been Now, obviously, we hear

412
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.319
this all the time. No one
ever believes some one is guilty of anything.

413
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.400
And of course he wasn't convicted yet, but we hear it all the

414
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.640
time. He was a quiet man
or he you know, he kept to

415
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:13.200
himself or whatever. And then all
of a sudden boom. Now, so

416
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:21.279
James's brother Gilbert is in jail facing
first degree murder charges, and he says

417
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.400
it couldn't have been him. Then
Mark pulls up the news stories where he

418
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:30.599
was seen fleeing the scene where he
had been given furniture, and they were

419
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.799
going to sell the furniture. They
had made a couple of loads already,

420
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.279
and Gilbert went back for another load. That's all you knew, right,

421
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:44.400
James. He went back for another
load. Now, yes, that's all

422
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:50.039
I know right now, fancy me
this. If he goes back for another

423
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:54.119
load and he's the only one who
encounters this couple and this one guy ends

424
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.400
up dead. Maybe the wife saw
something. I don't know anything except him

425
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.880
says he knows. Uh, bus
some of this. Tim, Now,

426
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.519
how are you really? Let's put
James on hold so Tim can have his

427
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:13.480
say. Tim, go ahead,
mister Martine. My name is Tim Daffer.

428
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.840
I am the father of Aaron Daffer, the one that was murdered.

429
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.400
How old was Aaron? Was he
giving? He was giving away furniture?

430
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.480
Yeah, are you going to commercial? No? No, well we're going

431
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.320
to a break. But I want
to just start. Go ahead, Okay.

432
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.840
They were in the process of move
in his girlfriend and his girlfriend's daughter

433
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.679
lived there. His girlfriend's family member
wanted them out because he wants to sell

434
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:44.440
the place. So they were they
were moving their stuff and from what I'm

435
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.159
told, it was pretty much empty
and they were offering stuff up for free.

436
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.559
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Tom Martine, Hello, Tom Martino here

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three oh three seven on three talks
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Welcome to the show, the only
show of its kind any And this is

448
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:09.199
a shocking story. James says he
and his brother started a business and they

449
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:15.760
were selling furniture, buying and selling
used furniture, and the business was just

450
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:23.679
getting started. They found a couple
that wanted to give away furniture and they

451
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:28.880
made a couple loads. James said, his brother Gilbert went back to get

452
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:35.079
another load without him, and then
his brother disappears and find he finds out,

453
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:40.239
James finds out his brother was later
arrested for first degree m murder of

454
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:46.639
the guy giving away furniture. Now, he says, it's impossible my brother

455
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:52.440
could not have done this. And
meanwhile, while we're discussing this case,

456
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:58.280
as often happens with this show because
it has such a vast audience, we

457
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:05.960
hear from Tim, who says I
am the dad of the victim. Tim,

458
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.000
my heart goes out to you.
No matter who did this, My

459
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:12.920
God, I just can't even imagine
your grief, Jesus. But anyway,

460
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:20.360
what's going on? Oh my god, what's going on? Okay? So

461
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:22.960
and Tom, I've listened to you
since you from the beginning. I've lived

462
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.199
in Colorado for sixty years, have
been gone for seven. So I drove

463
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:32.000
out Sunday morning straight out here.
But I talked to my son's girlfriend yesterday

464
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.920
and her daughter showed up. And
I'll just try to resummarize this because I

465
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:40.760
know how your time works. So, my son, they were getting rid

466
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.400
of furniture, and this house was
practically empty. It belonged to my son's

467
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.800
girlfriend's relative and they want to sell
the place, so they were moving out.

468
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.119
So they had this free thing you
know, whether it was on Facebook

469
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.239
or whatever. So, yeah,
him and the brother they come to get

470
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:05.320
stuff and then this George Familion comes
back by himself and of the time,

471
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.159
here's the situation that they're leaving out. This is not going to sugarcoat anything.

472
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:17.400
This guy him into the house and
he starts making this young girl.

473
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:22.719
He thinks she's twenty one, she's
fifteen. He starts he holds her hand

474
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.400
and stuff, and he's saying things
like the cartel blah blah blah, looking

475
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.039
into my eyes, this is what
I got from the girl that lives there.

476
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:35.519
Anyway, my brother had an or
my son had enough of this,

477
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.000
and he asked the guy to leave
because there was nothing else left here.

478
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:45.480
Now was this was he flirting?
Was he making these obnoxious overtures to your

479
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.800
son's girlfriend, Oh, to her
daughter, who is no, it's a

480
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.039
fifteen year old girl. Let him
just okay? So then the fifteen year

481
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:58.519
old girls trying to come on to
that. And supposedly this guy is married

482
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.239
with three kids or something. But
anyway, my son realizes what's going on

483
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:06.599
and asks the guy to leave.
Well, my son actually forcibly threw him

484
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.400
out of the house, and my
son will not take crap from anybody,

485
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:15.480
and so they end up outside swinging
it out and this guy finally realizes he

486
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.599
can't beat this guy to a fair
fistfight. And the last words my son

487
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.239
said is what are you gonna do
about it? And he pulls out a

488
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:27.039
gun and he shoots him in the
forehead and then he splits and he runs

489
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.719
and he falls out of his car. That's why this guy, Georgie,

490
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.039
ended up in the hospital. And
while he was in the hospital, he

491
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.079
assaults a nurse. So this guy
has a rap record, which I'm waiting

492
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.920
now, Tim, which is very
tim. Tim. I got to ask

493
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:46.960
you something. So both the girlfriend
and the daughter witnessed the murder. The

494
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.280
girlfriend did not because she was in
the bathtub. She didn't even she didn't

495
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.719
even hear it. She said she
was in the bathtub, and the girl

496
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.320
was still in the house because she
was freaking out. So my son,

497
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.440
but there was others. Then how
do you know? How do you know

498
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:10.400
what happened? You're describing something as
if it was seen, because I'm telling

499
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.239
you the part that I seen,
not that I seen the girl. That

500
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.480
was that he was making very uncomfortable
and how the fight that's how this whole

501
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.239
fight thing uh came out. And
these are all statements made to the REPO.

502
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.280
No, Tim, Tim, all
I need to ask is I'm not

503
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.559
challenging you. I'm asking you this. You said, you said that your

504
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.280
son said, what are you going
to do about it? And the guy

505
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.519
pulls out a gun and shoots him. So did someone report that to the

506
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.719
sheriff's apartment? And if so,
was it an eyewitness? Yes, but

507
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.239
I don't know who the eyewitness was. Okay, it wasn't the fifteen year

508
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:52.119
old daughter. No, she was
still in the house. Okay, but

509
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:59.480
somebody apparently he was in the garage. But somebody apparently somebody neighbors out that

510
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.840
heard the come and there was apparently
three other witnesses out. Okay, that's

511
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.159
what I wanted to know. Thank
you, Tim. And now there's a

512
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:13.440
protection order on five more people from
this guy. So okay, now do

513
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:19.920
you mind listen to him? Okay, God, this is so so.

514
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:22.920
When you were listening to this and
James was saying, there's no way my

515
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:29.400
brother could have done this, you're
thinking he doesn't know his brother. I'm

516
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:34.480
sure Hitler's mom thought he wouldn't have
done what he did either, So what

517
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.440
happens now? What did police say
happens? Now? Well, the guy's

518
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:44.199
supposedly on no bond or it's a
million dollar bond or something, but he's

519
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.400
still I don't know when his court
or any of that thing is. But

520
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.920
right now we're doing preparation for my
son's services. In fact, I'm here

521
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.079
to pick up some clothes right now. But I heard this on the radio

522
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.480
coming down and I just had to
get on because this guy is no saint

523
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.159
and it's too bad about whatever as
as they had. But I don't know

524
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.280
if it's going to be furniture by
murder or what you know? Now,

525
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:08.679
Tim, Tim the daughter, the
fifteen year old girl, what did she

526
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:16.519
say or what did your your his
girlfriend say? What started this flirtatious kind

527
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:23.079
of obnoxious behavior. He just started
eyeing on her and just coming on tour.

528
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.280
And I don't know how long they
run the house that I don't have

529
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.679
any of that statistic, but apparently
just long enough. And he kneeled down

530
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.719
to her. This is what she
told me yesterday. He kneeled down,

531
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.599
he held her hand, and she
was getting She was trying to withdraw,

532
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:43.760
but she was afraid to and he's
saying to look into my eyes, and

533
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.559
he's telling her stuff about the cartails
and blah blah blah. He's a you

534
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.960
know, don't mess with the cars
with me because I'm part of the cartailer

535
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.039
or something like this. And so
that's what I got from her yesterday.

536
00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.920
Okay, okay, And like I
said, he's defense and then this is

537
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.679
not his child, but it's his
girlfriend's daughter. And my son is very

538
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:09.519
protective of family and friends, and
so he asked the guy to leave,

539
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.800
and then he physically had to put
him out, and then so the fight

540
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:20.519
ensued. And then when the guy
has a gun. Yeah, Now does

541
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.599
your I just need to ask this. Does your son have a criminal record?

542
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:28.880
Yes? He does, Okay,
and is somebody who's been on the

543
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.679
right track. I know, Jim, I'm not I'm not Jim. I'm

544
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.559
not trying to you know. I
know anything. I've listened to you for

545
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.840
you. So does he did he
have any violence in his background? Your

546
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:46.159
son? Yes? Because I'm thinking
that this guy, he's not a perpetrator.

547
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.480
He's not a perpetrator. Though most
of the stuff my son has done

548
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:55.360
has only always just affected him.
Just stupid, stupid, choices and stuff,

549
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.039
but he doesn't go out and pick
fights with people on that. No,

550
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.199
No, I understand. I don't
even know what the relevance he would

551
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:06.039
be. He's the guy with the
bullet on his head. Mark am I

552
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:07.719
am? I am? I?
Wait? Wait? Mark, did I

553
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.880
say anything? Let me finish?
Okay, for God's sakes, let me

554
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:19.400
finish. I am trying to tell
Tim that the only defense this other guy

555
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.800
is going to have if there were
eyewitnesses, is that he was trying to

556
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:29.400
defend himself from someone, and they're
going to dig into his son's background.

557
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.000
Now, anyone with two eyes can
see that. For God's sakes, when

558
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.320
somebody is killed and there's a fight, the guy's gonna say I felt my

559
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:44.519
life was in danger. I doubt
he's going to say I felt like killing

560
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:52.119
someone. So that's why I'm asking
about the other guy, because the defense

561
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:58.760
attorney is going to try to tear
the other guy apart. So Tim just

562
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:04.440
be ready for that. Slow because
the only defense, if there are eyewitnesses,

563
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.280
the only defense. What is he
gonna say. He's gonna say I

564
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:13.559
thought my life was in danger.
Yeah, that's what we hear. He's

565
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.079
trying to claim self defense. But
oh really, okay, Marco geez,

566
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:21.880
well, who would have funked that? So ma so bullet? They retrieved

567
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.360
that yesterday in a Rapo County saw
They got to do is match ballistics.

568
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:30.840
But and the eyewitnesses, thank god, you have some three witnesses. All

569
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.519
right, Tim, My heart goes
out to you, man, I mean,

570
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.639
geez, thank you. I mean
I just when I heard this,

571
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.480
it's like, Tom, I have
never talked to you before, but I've

572
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.639
listened to you forever, and I
just had to get on because my heart

573
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.320
beat came out of my chest.
That this guy wants to make his brother

574
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.000
look like a hero and he's not. Wow, And and thank you Tim

575
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.880
for calling. Now, James,
James, you know this is not you.

576
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.800
This is your brother, Okay.
And I'm not saying anything except I'm

577
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.079
listening. But what were you calling
about originally? Now, you didn't call

578
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:07.119
originally about trying to make your brother
look innocent? What did you call about?

579
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.960
I'm calling because my brother needs help. He is in or Appahole County

580
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.880
jail and they're violating all of his
rights. Like what they're not? Like?

581
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.280
What rights? What rights? James? I don't understand which rights are

582
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:28.880
being violated. So when you get
injured, you have the right to medication,

583
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.760
right, well, you have the
right to medical care. Yeah,

584
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:37.159
yeah, exactly. They're not giving
him his medical care. So how was

585
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:42.079
he injured? How was he you're
talking about injured from this accident? Yes,

586
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.639
how do you know that? You
said you haven't been able to talk

587
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.519
to him. How do you know
he's injured? No, I said I

588
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:53.280
did talk to him. Oh,
I'm talking. He's telling me that the

589
00:46:53.400 --> 00:47:00.199
nurses are refusing to give him care. They keep telling him when he tells

590
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:06.280
him that he needs his factor eight
pcombinant factor. What is that? Oh?

591
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.719
Okay, So he doesn't clock blood. So right now he has internal

592
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.880
bleeding and he's bleeding into his extremities, and he's bleeding out of his orifices,

593
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:21.480
like into his underwear and his theater
blue and his public defender has all

594
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:27.039
these pictures. Tom. Okay,
I thought you said he didn't have an

595
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:29.960
attorney. How the hell did he
get one in the last fifteen minutes.

596
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:34.639
I told you that I was going
to call him after you. Okay,

597
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.920
I haven't talked to the journey yet. Okay, So listen, James.

598
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:44.719
So you're calling because your brother's not
getting medical care, yes, and he's

599
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.199
doing really bad, and I can
hear in his voice it's not good.

600
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.599
Now, James, did anything change
in your opinion though, based on what

601
00:47:53.639 --> 00:48:00.599
you heard from Tim and supposedly eyewitnesses. No, not at all. You

602
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:04.119
don't think so. And I thank
you, Tom, thank you because that's

603
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.599
exactly you said, exactly what I
was going to say. Why there's two

604
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:12.320
people, there's two sides. We
don't know what's going on. The police

605
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.480
will let us know, but they
don't have my brother's statement. I don't

606
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:21.679
know about what that girl is saying, but my brother doesn't do stuff like

607
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:23.719
that. Well, come on,
do you think they made the whole story

608
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:32.960
up? Everybody at that house was
drinking, and Aaron was high, and

609
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.480
I know he was high because he
had gotten high when I was there,

610
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:42.280
and he had said that he would
trade for KHC or quick. Anybody that's

611
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:47.280
been on the street knows quick means
nothing, better means. I told him

612
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:52.239
No, I'm eight months in recovery, James. No, James, So

613
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.599
your take on this is that they're
making this whole story up about your brother,

614
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:04.639
Yes, but what reason would they
do that? Because I know my

615
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.000
brother wouldn't do anything. No,
that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking

616
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:13.159
what motive would they have to make
up a story about your brother and then

617
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:20.280
kill him? Wait, you got
that wrong. I'm sorry. No,

618
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.199
no, hold on attempt to kill
him where he had to defend himself,

619
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:29.840
That's what I meant. So my
brother told me that he was trying to

620
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:36.559
leave. I don't know what went
down between Aaron and my brother, but

621
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.000
my brother told me he was trying
to leave, and he's saying that he

622
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:45.079
was defending himself. So so he
Okay, that's what I'm asking. Why

623
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:49.159
would if he's there to pick up
furniture, why would they Why would they

624
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:53.079
all of a sudden want him dead
or hurt him or why would they tell

625
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.960
me? What? Why do you
think they did that? He went over

626
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.280
there to pick up the furniture and
they were over there having a little party.

627
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:04.840
Was he a selling by the way, was your brother is your He

628
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.440
said it was not. He said
it was misdemeanors only. Originally, I

629
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:09.800
don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said, Mark.

630
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:14.920
He said he was a misdemeanors only. But James, yes, man,

631
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.440
that's why they have courts of law. That's why they have cross examination

632
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.800
of witnesses. That's why they have
Your brother will be heard. As far

633
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:28.880
as medical care, his defense attorney
has to make a motion for that if

634
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.320
he's not getting care. Now,
listen, it's not the first time.

635
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.679
It's really not the first time these
claims have been made. I'm not saying

636
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:40.960
you're it's not true, but but
listen, you know this, this is

637
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.840
a this is a procedure, and
I know that people in jail deserve medical

638
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.239
care. He has to stand trial. All of that has to happen.

639
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.840
We all want that to happen,
you know. Now, here's the thing

640
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:59.320
though, It's going to be an
uphill battle with three eye witnesses. James,

641
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:05.719
I know. Wow, I'm not
I'm not worried, Tom, I'm

642
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.119
not worried. I believe my brother
when he says it was self defense.

643
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:14.239
I believe that the three eyed witnesses, Well, what's it called, they'll

644
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.320
say the same thing. No,
there's a word rip, but I don't

645
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:24.719
know the word. They'll confirm,
they'll what they'll collaborate his story. I

646
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.000
mean, do you think the witnesses
will see that it was self defense?

647
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.639
Yes, Okay, so do you
What you're saying is what you're saying,

648
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:38.239
James, what you're saying is these
people were a bunch of tweakers and they

649
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:43.599
were getting violent with your brother.
Your brother tried to leave and he defended

650
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:50.480
himself. Not everybody there, Okay, I know a d was on some

651
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.920
bowl. But here's what I want
to know, James, why would your

652
00:51:52.920 --> 00:52:02.440
brother go to a house to pick
up furniture carrying a gun? Well,

653
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.519
they say he took their gun.
Whose gun was it, Jamesming, I'm

654
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:13.280
assuming it was Aaron. So you're
saying he pulled out a gun and shot

655
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.639
him, But he didn't have a
gun, so I think he took it

656
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:21.719
from him. If anything, I
don't know. I wasn't there, man.

657
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.239
I'd love to talk to these eyewitnesses, my god. Not that we're

658
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.960
going to try it here, but
I am curious as hell. Okay,

659
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:34.320
James, stay in touch with us
and let us know. Meanwhile, if

660
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.360
if you need help with the uh, you know, calling down there and

661
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:42.760
seeing what the procedure is for medical
care, your attorney should be the one

662
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.000
to do that. Really, And
when you talk to the defense attorney,

663
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.480
that's what you ask him first,
And foremost, don't be getting into that

664
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.639
he couldn't have done it. He
couldn't have done it. Get him medical

665
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.880
care first so he can stand trial. We have more coming right up.

666
00:52:54.960 --> 00:53:00.320
I'm Tom Martino three oh three seven
three eight two five five. Go with

667
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:05.559
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668
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:12.840
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In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying
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670
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671
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.639
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673
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:35.320
sixteen twenty two. All right,
So we heard from James who said his

674
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:42.119
brother is facing first degree murder charges
for you know, going to pick up

675
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:46.800
furniture, getting into a fight and
killing a guy. Now there's three eyewitnesses,

676
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:52.639
but James says his brother was defending
himself and that the guy that he

677
00:53:52.760 --> 00:54:00.119
killed was a tweaker doing drugs,
high violent. The dad called in and

678
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:06.320
talking about his son who was murdered, and the dad said, I'm here

679
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:14.039
making funeral arrangements, and eyewitnesses simply
say that his son was sticking up for

680
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:20.400
a fifteen year old girl that this
guy Gilbert was hitting on and being obnoxious

681
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.159
to. He threw him out of
the house, and then the guy,

682
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:30.400
after having a fistfight, shoots him. Now someone else, Tom, don't

683
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.320
you think it's going to be critical
to find out whose gun it was?

684
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.360
I mean, yeah, yeah,
of course. Now, Deputy Doc,

685
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.239
we have another person though involved,
Aliyah. I want to get to right

686
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:45.840
now. Then we'll make come Eliyahu. You are in close contact with who

687
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:52.840
Eliah? So it's Aaliyah. Sorry, I'm sorry, Aliah, go ahead,

688
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:57.800
that's okay. So my name is
Aliyah. The victim is my father.

689
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.519
His name is Aaron Baffler. Oh
my god. So your your your

690
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:07.480
dad is the one that was killed. Yes, so you can imagine my

691
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.079
shock, you know, our grief, our pain, the things that we're

692
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:15.440
dealing with, and then hearing this
story that this other person is saying about

693
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:22.000
you know, my father. I
The witnesses are my father's girlfriend and her

694
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:25.519
daughter, so kind of like a
sister to me. Well well yeah,

695
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:30.119
but they didn't witness the murder.
They said they just they they were a

696
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:35.039
witness to why it started. But
apparently they did not witness the murder,

697
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:40.159
right or did they? They didn't
witness the exact shooting because it happened.

698
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:47.840
Everything happened in about five minutes.
It was very But did anyone, Aliah,

699
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:55.639
did anyone witness the murder? I
believe there were some neighbors. There

700
00:55:55.679 --> 00:56:00.760
were some neighbors. We haven't gotten
did names of the neighbors, because it's

701
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:06.159
still an ongoing trial, you know, and I'm pretty sure they're being you

702
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.199
know, protected, But from what
we know, there were some neighbors.

703
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:16.559
Oh, Ron, do you think
it was I think it was Gilbert's gun

704
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:22.039
because I have a brother. His
name is Demetrius. He's in a band,

705
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:28.920
and in that band. It was
just this random coincidence. One of

706
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:31.239
Gilbert's brothers. I don't think the
brother that called, but I think a

707
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:37.840
younger brother was in this band with
my brother and my brother. The day

708
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.239
of the shooting, my brother goes
to his band and he's venting and he's

709
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:45.559
telling them and he's like, you're
kidding. And it turns out that one

710
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:50.880
of the bandmates is brothers to Gilbert
Vermilion and he tells, my brother,

711
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.639
I am so very sorry for your
loss. I'm so very sorry what happened.

712
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:59.320
My brother is a drug addict.
He is an alcoholic. He has

713
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:02.920
a long wreck or. He's very
aggressive with people. I've gotten into several

714
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:07.760
fights with him. And just two
weeks ago, he broke into our mom's

715
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:15.800
house and stole our guns because because
Aliah was your dad. Was your dad

716
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:21.800
a meth head? No he was
not. And that's why I'm calling It

717
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:27.079
makes me so angry because people are
trashing his name. You know. Yeah,

718
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.760
that guy was trying to say he's
a tweaker. Yeah no, yeah,

719
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:34.679
no, he was defending a fifteen
year old girl. He was always

720
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.840
a very strong, loving, hard
working family man. And if and if

721
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:43.480
he sells furniture to this man and
this man is a tweaker and keeps coming

722
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:47.360
back every single day, he's gonna
he's gonna get angry and kicking. Now,

723
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:52.440
Aliah, Aliyah, the guy went
back because there was more furniture,

724
00:57:52.519 --> 00:58:00.760
right, No, he ended the
My dad kicked him out because he was

725
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:07.320
hitting on the girl. And Gilbert
said that he left his keys and he

726
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.480
and instead of kindly asking for his
keys or asking the police to escort him.

727
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:14.760
After my dad had stated he didn't
want him on his property, he

728
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.119
went in and he broke down their
garage door. He kicked their door in.

729
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:23.360
Jeez, really got it. Yeah, my dad was on My dad

730
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:28.599
was unarmed. He has no possession
of a gun, no possession of anything.

731
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.760
All he had was a small,
cheap famboo stick to try. Was

732
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:37.400
your dad was your well, was
your dad pulling a stick on him?

733
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:43.960
No? It was it was like
a I don't know how to explain it.

734
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:47.440
The guy's you know, the guy
apparently is hitting on a fifteen year

735
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:51.519
old girl in his house. He
wants to get him the hell out of

736
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.960
there, and apparently the guy won't
leave. I might have or a gun,

737
00:58:55.480 --> 00:59:00.519
Aliyah, your dad doesn't get high
and wasn't drunk or anything like that.

738
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:05.559
No, he's at the corners and
they already they already did that.

739
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:10.000
They already did his report and everything, the toxicology. Toxicology came back clean.

740
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.760
I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Aliyah, I'm so sorry. I'm so

741
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:22.880
sorry that this happened to you.
Do you have any siblings to my dad?

742
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:25.960
No, it's just me. Now. He has a lot of nieces

743
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:31.000
and nephews though, and were people
shocked. I mean, what this guy

744
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:37.280
is saying it was self defense,
his life was in danger. I think

745
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.360
you are personally escorted off of property
and you keep coming back in and you're

746
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:50.079
kicking someone's storing. It's not self
defense. Aliyah, thank you for calling

747
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:58.239
this. This this is this is
unbelievable. Unbelievable, and just be ready

748
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:00.960
though, because that's what they're going
to do, Leah. They're going to

749
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:07.119
attack your dad. They're going to
say he was being violent. Uh.

750
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:12.679
And I mean James believes every word
that his brother is telling him from jail.

751
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.159
What I did not know is that
James has a younger brother who says

752
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:25.000
something different. Yeah, because the
older the older brother that's calling in had

753
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:30.079
visited one day with the furniture.
Then the younger brother doesn't talk to the

754
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:35.880
older brothers. Okay, thank you
very much, a Leah, thank you

755
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:38.760
for calling. I'm running from background
check on this guy too, and I'll

756
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:44.960
let everybody. I'll give an update
now James, Now, James, your

757
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:50.760
younger brother, are you guys estranged
you? And uh, the alleged first

758
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:53.199
I'm hearing of a younger brother,
Tom, you don't have a younger brother.

759
01:00:54.679 --> 01:01:01.079
I'm the youngest. Are you in
a band? My brother, Gabriel

760
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:06.719
is in a band. Okay,
well, okay, so big deal.

761
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:08.719
I mean, but you do have
a brother in a band. We don't

762
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:13.800
have to split hairs here. She
said that you have a brother in a

763
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:23.239
band. Who was apologizing because he
says that Gabriel is violent? Gilbert are

764
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:30.320
Gilbert Gilbo? Is Gilbert violent?
I mean Gilbert Gilbert does have past records

765
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.320
of fights. Yes, I've said
that he does. I've been in fights.

766
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:37.159
Have you ever been in a fight? Tom, Yes, when I

767
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:42.599
was a real young, stupid person. Yeah, not as a grown man.

768
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.639
No, but listen, listen,
you got it. Like I said,

769
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:51.320
you know you are just blindly listening
and believing your brother. Now you

770
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:54.639
have your reasons, right, you
have your reasons. I'm not blindly listening,

771
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.199
Tom, Well, sure you are? You? Sure you are?

772
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.079
You weren't there? No, I'm
not and I'm not sure. Well,

773
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:08.960
that's called blind That's called blindly blindly, meaning you're not privy. You did

774
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:14.400
not witness anything. No, but
neither did any of these other people.

775
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.840
No, no, no, I'm
saying, according to the eyewitness reports though.

776
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.800
Now, and is this the first
ye're hearing that your brother kicked down

777
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:28.000
a door? Yeah? And who
was escorted off the premises by cops?

778
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.320
If he was escorted off the premises? No, I don't think you.

779
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.719
I don't know if well, in
any case, I don't know all the

780
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:37.320
fact. Look at I don't have
the report in front of me, but

781
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:42.360
we're going to get a hold of
it. James, listen, I keep

782
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.159
listening. Call with any updates.
I'm Tom Martinez. Got to take this

783
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:53.800
break. Go with a sure thing
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784
01:02:53.840 --> 01:03:01.000
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01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:15.079
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789
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:31.760
twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here
three all three seven one three talk three

790
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:39.400
oh three seven one three eight two
five five Okay, Uh, this is

791
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:45.400
a This is amazing some of the
stories we're doing here. But let's continue

792
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:51.079
here three oh three seven one three
eight two five five. I'm trying to

793
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.079
find my call screener here, Dan. I cannot wait to see this guy's

794
01:03:54.119 --> 01:04:00.280
background check this Gilbert. Now let's
talk to uh somebody else. Now,

795
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:04.079
David's been called a long time ago. David, Hi, thank you for

796
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:09.239
your patience. What's going on?
David? Hiks Tom, It's good to

797
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:12.400
be on the show. I finally
have a trail shooter worthy call to me.

798
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:17.119
So what's going on? Man?
So I got laid off two weeks

799
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:20.480
ago. Okay, and good news
is I already haven't heard a job so

800
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:27.840
well as well. But the downside
was I got a femail. They were

801
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.800
not unable to reach me when they
laid me off personally because I had quit

802
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:35.400
the day before put in my two
weeks notice and I was actually taking that

803
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:40.039
day off. So you wait,
wait, so you were you were let

804
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:45.320
go right after you put in your
notice? Yes, okay, yes,

805
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.639
yeah, because I've seen the writing
on the wall for quite a while.

806
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.800
Okay. So anyway, so I
got I got an email. It says

807
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:57.679
you're May fifteenth, twenty twenty fourth
paychecks will be your final paycheck, et

808
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.519
cetera. And then it said you
will be paid for seventy one hours as

809
01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:05.760
funds are available in PTOs? What
does that mean? As funds are available?

810
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:10.480
What does that mean? That's a
good question. Well, are you

811
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:15.599
paid by the hour, by the
salary or by commission salary? Just straight

812
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:23.039
salary based on a forty hour week? Correct? Okay? Was there an

813
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:28.119
hourly rate attached to it? Or
a flat rate? No? Flat rates?

814
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.559
Okay? What was your Okay?
But I had these seventy one hours

815
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.639
of PTO? Right, so they
paid me for my work days? But

816
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.960
oh okay, but what as far
as you out? Okay, So this

817
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:45.519
just concerned your PTO? Correct?
Okay, go ahead? Sure? So

818
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.119
I asked that question, what do
you mean by funds are available? And

819
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:54.639
it said they said, we will
pay sendy one hours of PO as funds

820
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:58.360
are available at this time, I
do not have a state for PTO to

821
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:02.360
be paid. Can I ask you
something? So PTO at your company works

822
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:08.880
this way. If you don't take
it, you get paid for it anyway.

823
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:13.000
So if you if you leave the
job, if you get laid off,

824
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.039
or even if you quit you're owed
whatever PTO you've accrued. Yeah that

825
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.159
state law time. Okay, thank
you, thank you, Marco, go

826
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:25.920
ahead, sir. Yeah. So, so I've accrued these seventy one hours

827
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:30.079
of PTO, which includes you know, some from someone carried over from the

828
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:36.400
previous year, got and what I've
crew this year also, so I am

829
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:43.320
kind of curious, like I'm willing
to be patient with them. You know,

830
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.159
I kind of thought I would wait
until maybe the end of the month

831
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:47.559
to start. Well, hold on
there, you know, you know that

832
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:51.320
old saying you can't take blood from
a stone or whatever, or blood from

833
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:55.159
a turnip or however they say it. But here's the deal. Here's the

834
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:59.039
deal. They're being honest with you, saying we can't pay you until funds

835
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:00.800
are available. They're not saying we're
not going to pay you. So hold

836
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:09.280
on and let's come back to this. I'm Tom Martino. Go with a

837
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:13.679
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841
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843
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:53.159
two. Hi Tom Martino three oh
three seven one three talk three oh three

844
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.880
seven one three eight two five five. All right, so let's talk again.

845
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:02.639
Now, keep going your story and
let's figure out what's going on.

846
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:08.599
So what's so? So? Continue, David, you were fired, they

847
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:11.840
don't have the money. What do
you expect. They're being honest with you,

848
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:14.000
and they say they're going to try
to pay you even if you get

849
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:17.359
a judgment, that still doesn't put
money in their pocket. Right, And

850
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.880
I'm more just wondering, like I
am. You know, I'm more than

851
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:27.640
willing to be patient, right,
Yeah, I just want to not put

852
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:31.920
myself in a situation where one,
I've waited too long to demand the money,

853
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:40.479
and or well I waited, it's
automatically demanded. I'm don't it's automatically

854
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:45.119
demanded. You're not waiting. Go
ahead. What I've looked at in the

855
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:50.439
statue is I can put in a
formal request for them to to pay that

856
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:56.039
money and then then go to trouble
then go to trouble damages. Right,

857
01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.319
so you can do that. You
can make you can make a notice right

858
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.800
now, just make it, get
it on record, and then after that,

859
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:08.159
if they don't come through with your
pay, you can sue them for

860
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:13.800
treble damages. And will that be
in small claims court with your triple the

861
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.039
amount of PTO? No, probably
it would be over seventy five hundred right

862
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:24.159
for that many hours, yeah,
probably, So you can't go to small

863
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:30.720
claims court for it, So you'd
have to go to an attorney or you'd

864
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:33.199
have to get the labor departments to
try to enforce it. But that would

865
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:38.720
light a fire under them. I
would do that for sure, give them

866
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:43.600
official notice, keep track of it, and then give them a reasonable amount

867
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.199
of time like five days, ten
days, and then call us back.

868
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:53.319
I'm Tom Martine. We have more
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869
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:57.680
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870
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871
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872
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873
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874
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875
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876
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Run in just as fast as the
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877
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:48.239
is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom
Martinez, Hi Tom Martino, You're a

878
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:53.239
troubleshooter three all three seven one three
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879
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:56.520
two five five. We are here
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880
01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:00.319
complaints, to make your life a
little easier, as we have been doing

881
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:02.880
for years and years. And I
got to tell you we have some exciting

882
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:06.199
stuff on this show. A man
did we go over some big stuff by

883
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:10.119
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884
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885
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.600
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886
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887
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com three h three nine to zero, sixteen twenty two. So let's talk

888
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:33.880
about this like we're we're really getting
all kinds of information on and off the

889
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:40.119
air. Somebody called in about this
murder and it was just an incredible story.

890
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:43.840
But James called in about his brother
Gilbert, accused of murdering a guy,

891
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:46.359
and he says, my brother couldn't
have done it. It was self

892
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:51.079
defense. And then the victim's dad
called, the victim's daughter called, and

893
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:56.960
everyone has a different story now.
Of course, then there's supposedly some eyewitnesses

894
01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:01.840
from the Sheriff's department that the Sheriff's
department has on their police report. So

895
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:06.159
that is one of the calls that
was amazing. We also had another ripoff

896
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:12.760
from Jeff Jolliffe who advertises in Facebook
marketplace. And I want to remind you

897
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:16.680
this guy is a sleeze bucket piece
of crap. He is just a piece

898
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:20.119
of garbage. I don't know what
else to say. We have never had

899
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:28.000
more complaints ever ever with auto repairs. He just doesn't do the repairs.

900
01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:30.640
He lies to people. He repaints
stuff to make it look like it was

901
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:35.880
rebuilt. He's a liar, okay, and we have had so many complaints

902
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:41.119
it can't be a coincidence. And
then we've had several others where when he

903
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:45.319
they take it back for warranty work, the vehicle is stolen. That's Jeff

904
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:50.199
Jolliffe. Nine seven zero six'
eight nine fifty forty seven. Nine seven

905
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:54.960
zero six eight nine fifty forty seven. These are his new working numbers.

906
01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:57.720
I'm going to keep putting him out
there until he goes out of business.

907
01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.199
Yes, I do have I do
want to put him out of business.

908
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:03.680
I'm saying that right out in the
open because based on everything we know,

909
01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:09.239
he's a sleeze bucket. Seven two
zero three three three ninety five forty eight.

910
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:14.439
Seven two zero three three three ninety
five forty eight. If you call

911
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.840
you, let him know we know
about him. The jig is up.

912
01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:20.920
We know about him, Okay,
we know about him. We know he's

913
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.399
a liar and a cheater and a
rip off. I don't know what else

914
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:29.079
to do, man, We got
to get this guy from from hurting others.

915
01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:34.600
Nine seven zero six eight nine fifty
forty seven. Also seven two zero

916
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:45.920
three three three ninety five forty eight. So let's talk now to Rich who

917
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.079
wants to talk about a starter.
Go ahead, Rich, Hi Tom,

918
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:54.840
this is Rich. Yes, sir, I'm going to change off of speaker.

919
01:13:54.960 --> 01:14:00.000
Jeey good, thank you, okay. Rich. So I've owned twoday

920
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.760
thousand and three Toyota Corolla for ten
years. It's been a great car,

921
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:11.439
but I've had an intermittent starting problem
with it, and now it's become more

922
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:17.800
more predominant, and now you've had
the problem for the whole time. Yes,

923
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:23.600
it's a five speed and so when
you go to start it, you

924
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.039
have to push in the clutch because
there's a switch on the clutch. And

925
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.239
sometimes it wouldn't start. You just
go click and then you'd let off the

926
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:33.640
clutch and push you back in and
then it would start, no problem.

927
01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:39.199
Once in a while it would do
that. Then it became well it won't

928
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:42.640
start, but if I roll it
a little bit and you know, pop

929
01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:45.520
the clutch and then we'll start.
Well that's because yeah, that's just popping

930
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:50.359
it. You have a Microsoft switch
problem. Yeah, And so I've replaced

931
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:56.520
the starter, the starter relay,
the clutch starts switch, and the battery.

932
01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:00.000
And when you say the start switch, you mean that little micro switch

933
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:04.079
that talks about that sees where the
position of a clutch is. Yes,

934
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:08.640
okay, so when you depress the
clutch pedal, it lets it know you

935
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:14.279
can start right and you've replaced it
with hoping maybe one of your service guys

936
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:18.680
you might be able to recommend someone
who can look into electrical issue. It's

937
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:24.359
not an easy issue because I'm a
mechanical Well, the good part is that

938
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:30.239
Sheridan Autotech does both clutches, and
they do electrical and they do cars in

939
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:38.000
general, and they do foreign cars. So so how often does it happen

940
01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:43.720
every single time you try to start? No, it does now, but

941
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.399
I mean over the last No,
that's what I mean. But now you

942
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.319
but right now, if you go
to start it, it will not start.

943
01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:55.159
No. I actually roll it down
the hillpop to clutch it. It

944
01:15:55.319 --> 01:16:00.159
runs and it runs well once you're
started. Oh yeah yeah, and then

945
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.199
if you turn it and if you
turn it off, you can't start it

946
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:08.640
again. No, Well, it's
got to be. It's got to be

947
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:14.199
in that clutch sensor. It's got
to be. I replaced it. It

948
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:16.560
was a forty five switch from Toyota. Yeah, yeah, I understand that.

949
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:24.720
But the wiring to the switch.
The switch is not made. Huh.

950
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:29.119
Nothing I've never had, I've never
modeled. But it's obvious. And

951
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:33.760
here's here's how you can tell.
You can take the switch out completely and

952
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:39.720
put those two wires together. Just
twist them together. Okay, so it's

953
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:44.079
always on. Then try to start
it in neutral. Obviously, if it

954
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:47.520
doesn't start, that circuit is the
one that's bad. There's no other way

955
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:53.479
it could be. It's that circuit. That's the only thing that makes sense

956
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:58.760
because it starts and it runs.
And if it's that circuit, Kevin Caulkin

957
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:03.720
can trace Itvin, Okay, Kevin
over at Sheridan Auto Tech. Let me

958
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:05.920
just give you the number. You
know what, We don't have to spend

959
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:09.079
I don't want to waste your time
trying to get him on the air.

960
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:15.079
He truly confessed. But you want
to twist those together and see what happens.

961
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.000
Now, obviously you already replaced the
switch, but that would take out

962
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:24.359
the switch completely, and it would
absolutely tell you that circuit is not working.

963
01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:30.039
Because if that circuit's together, it
should start. There's nothing else that

964
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:32.279
I can see that wouldn't make it
start. Now, your starter, by

965
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:36.600
the way, you already replaced that
it could be a grounding issue. But

966
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:44.079
then again before you said it was
intermittent, meaning well, I guess it

967
01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:47.439
could be a ground problem going to
the starter or not getting a voltage and

968
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:51.640
for that, see Kevin can do
that voltage check. He can go and

969
01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:58.039
see I can't do that part.
So forget what I said about that micro

970
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.880
stage, because they could be in
the starter circuit. It really could be.

971
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.159
When you're talking intermittent, it could
be anything. So here's what you

972
01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:05.920
do now. Now, before though, when you used to get it to

973
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:10.000
start, when it was intermittent,
how did you get it to start?

974
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:15.199
Well, if you moved the car
a little bit and you know, pushed

975
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:16.399
in the clutch, moved the car
a little bit, let out the clutch,

976
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:19.880
you know, and then started like
normal, it would work. Okay,

977
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:23.720
Okay, I'm trying to think now
that does not work at all.

978
01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:27.520
It could be Well, you can't
be a dead spot in the starter.

979
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.520
You did a new starter. So
okay, here's here's Kevin. Here's Sheridan

980
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.600
Auto tech dot Com. First of
all, it's Sheridan as in the street.

981
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:38.840
He's not on Sheridan. Yeah,
he's on Callfax west of Wadsworth.

982
01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:43.439
He does electrical and mechanical. So
it's Sheridan Auto Tech dot com. Three

983
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:49.720
oh three four five five four five
seventy two forty two. Where are you

984
01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:55.479
located? Find in North Glenn.
Oh, it's not bad, you're that.

985
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:58.760
He's on Collfax, west of Wadsworth. Give him a call, man,

986
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:00.319
you can just give him. You
can just drive by and they can

987
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.960
do some quick testing. They're really
good people, So thank you for calling.

988
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:08.039
I wish I wish I had an
answer right off the bat, but

989
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:11.279
we know where it is, right, We know that it's isolated somewhere in

990
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:15.239
there, all right. So we
also have Linda. She wants to follow

991
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:17.960
up with. Uh. Now,
Linda, you were going to sue the

992
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:25.079
apartment house for not giving you the
notice about your security deposit and all of

993
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:27.760
that, and you were going to
do it for treble damages, I believe.

994
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:30.920
But you can't find the registered agent, is that right? Yeah?

995
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:35.000
I went to the Colorado Secretary of
State website for both the management company and

996
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:39.960
the apartment complex and I can't find
either one there. So I'm not sing

997
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.880
how to get the registered agent to
serve. The management company is based out

998
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:47.359
of Dallas, Texas. No,
but but hold on, we had to

999
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:54.479
have something in Colorado. At the
apartment complex. Is there an office?

1000
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:58.319
Is there an office? There's a
Yeah, there's an office with a manager

1001
01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:01.760
in it. Then serve that manager. Okay, all right, I just

1002
01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:05.239
wanted to make sure Mark the red
skirt agent Mark, but I wasn't here.

1003
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:06.760
You know, well, I don't
know. If you have to Mark,

1004
01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:12.680
wouldn't that suffice? I would assume
it would. That's where I'd start.

1005
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:16.840
And if they have an argument of
why that person is not proper,

1006
01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:20.800
then they would be telling you who
would be proper. So you just refile,

1007
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:26.359
okay, okay, I g And
you don't even have to have the

1008
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.760
person's You don't even have to have
that person's name in the front desk there.

1009
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.359
If you do, it's fine.
But you can serve the company at

1010
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:38.720
that front desk. Okay, okay, great, thank you, sure,

1011
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:41.680
and let us know what happens.
We have more right after this. Three

1012
01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:44.800
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1013
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:47.239
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1014
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:50.319
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two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi
Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three ozho three

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So uh, let's continue here.
And we have a recommendation for Linda.

1032
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:34.079
Clint called and h This was on
the call about her daughter moved out of

1033
01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:39.720
an apartment and she wanted to serve
the people because she didn't get her uh,

1034
01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:42.840
she didn't get her money. Go
ahead, Clint, what's your comment?

1035
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:48.680
Hey, Thomas Clint Webster, Hey
Clint, Deputy Clint, You're gone.

1036
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:55.000
Holy moly, Clint. Well,
I had some serious health problems,

1037
01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.960
but all I came out the other
side. I'm about one. Hey Clint,

1038
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:04.399
what was your nickname when you were
a dept? Clint? Was it?

1039
01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:09.680
Don't remember Tom Man. We liked
having you. Bro Okay, so

1040
01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:14.399
we got a bad crop right now. I'm just kidding. We got great

1041
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:17.720
peet. We have great people.
Tell me everything I know about being a

1042
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:21.800
deputy. Yeah, so listen,
what's going on? Clinton? You had

1043
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:29.359
somebody with electrical problems. Yeah,
out the back door of Shared Auto Tech,

1044
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.800
there's a separate facility is a place
called Colorado Auto Electric. Right,

1045
01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:38.720
and the girl's name is Ali A
l e E. Yeah. This girl

1046
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:43.119
is an absolute electrical genius. She
worked on my car years ago, Clint,

1047
01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:45.760
can you believe that? Yes,
it's part of Sheridan Auto Tech.

1048
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:49.119
Now they're wonderful. Yeah, she's
out back of there and like that Twitter,

1049
01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:55.439
I haven't found anything. She hasn't
solved. There's really great people out

1050
01:23:55.439 --> 01:24:00.800
there. Hard to find, oh
wholeheartedly. Yeah. Now, anyway,

1051
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:03.319
I gotta pull off here because I'm
getting ready to go out there. All

1052
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:08.399
right, man, do you have
anything else or is that it? No,

1053
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:13.479
I'll talk to you later. I'm
on my way up to Colorado Spaceport

1054
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:15.960
now. Oh cool, okay,
Yeah, of course he has a He

1055
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:19.039
has a lot of business out there
at the airport. Thank you, Clint.

1056
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:21.920
Be in touch, be in touch
please, we'd love to have you

1057
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:27.479
back. Man. All right,
let's talk to Darren. Darren. I

1058
01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:30.680
remember this call, man. It
was a while ago. There was something

1059
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:38.239
about food trucks. What can you
recap what that was? Okay? What

1060
01:24:38.279 --> 01:24:47.680
it is is, I am living
in a residential neighborhood next to a food

1061
01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:54.399
a taco food truck operation business.
Yeah, they got like three or four

1062
01:24:54.439 --> 01:25:00.159
trucks. Yeah, but they don't
they don't have the truck there. Whereeople

1063
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:01.840
are coming to get tacos. Right, they just park there, right,

1064
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:08.800
yep, right right. They cook
food and they clean the trucks, and

1065
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:15.000
they they have their storage and the
building and it's also operating. But is

1066
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:19.119
it a commercial area? Is it
legal or is it illegal? No,

1067
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:25.680
it's it's well the city of lock
Boo is allowing them to do this,

1068
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:31.840
okay, and it is. Uh, it's not. But it's driving him.

1069
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.600
Hold on, let's just get to
it. It drives you crazy because

1070
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:39.520
they're coming and going all times of
the night and making noise as well.

1071
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:43.079
You must have taken this call,
Mark, No, I don't think so,

1072
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.760
I just remember it. Okay,
go ahead. What's happening, Darren?

1073
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:51.720
Yes? So. And they they've
got the concrete business operating over there

1074
01:25:51.760 --> 01:26:00.319
also, which the front end loader
is dumping trash. They have a rciel

1075
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:06.439
dumpster that the truck comes and empties
it before eight o'clock in the morning.

1076
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:12.920
They're over there as But if you
went over this a year ago. But

1077
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:17.159
if lack Bowie in the town saying
you're not doing anything wrong, what could

1078
01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:28.479
we do for you? Okay?
Well, I have the code officer's name.

1079
01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:34.560
I contacted Adams County. They they
won't do anything because they can't see

1080
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:42.239
them cooking food inside, so they're
denying to help me, the town refuses

1081
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:47.000
to shut them down because they can't
see in the building. Also, well

1082
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.079
hold on, wait, wait tell
me what would happen if they could see

1083
01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:54.920
in the building. How would that
change things? Because then they'd be making

1084
01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:59.119
the food in the building, and
then that would be you know, operating

1085
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:03.399
a kitchen inside of a home.
Yeah, but why why are they letting?

1086
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:09.520
What about the concrete business though,
we're just we're just glossing over that

1087
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:14.760
one. What about that one?
I think the county does food tom where

1088
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:18.039
the concrete would be more of a
city issue. Is that what you're thinking,

1089
01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:25.359
Darren? Well, right, but
there they won't serve them. They

1090
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:29.560
won't do assystem deceip But for what
for which one are you talking now?

1091
01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:33.840
The taco business or the concrete business? Either one? Either one? They

1092
01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:41.920
won't do anything about it. Well, is it violating any law? Well,

1093
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.960
yeah, it's it's it's in a
commercial it's in a residential neighborhood.

1094
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:50.319
Okay, But what is in a
residential the parking of the trucks or do

1095
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:55.079
they open up the truck there for
people to come and get tacos? Which

1096
01:27:55.119 --> 01:28:00.880
one? Are they just parking their
trucks? There's so much business in and

1097
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:04.359
out of there, it's constantly not
like what like. But that's what I'm

1098
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:10.479
trying to get at, Darren.
What kind of business is going on in

1099
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:17.840
the house. Well, they have
a great, big building dedicated to just

1100
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:23.880
the taco trucks. Okay, So
is the building separate from the house,

1101
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:31.199
yes, Does the building itself not
the activity? Does the building itself violate

1102
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:39.840
any laws or ordinances or codes?
Well? Probably not. Okay, Then

1103
01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:48.640
you're claiming the activity inside the building
is what would violate zoning. Correct.

1104
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:54.520
And the reason they won't do it
is because they can't see inside there.

1105
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:59.760
What they're saying is they don't have
probable cause to go there with a C

1106
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:08.199
and desist. Correct. I think. So they've been allowing them to do

1107
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:11.880
this for many, many many years. Well, allowing them or turning their

1108
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.199
you know, a blind eye is
different. I know they're the same,

1109
01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:20.039
but they're they're not giving them official
permission, but they're before I thought when

1110
01:29:20.039 --> 01:29:25.560
you said allowing them or it's not
allowed by law, they're just turning a

1111
01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:30.520
blind eye. Is that what you're
saying? Well? Correct? Correct?

1112
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:34.239
Okay, and they're claiming the reason
they're turning a blind eye is because they

1113
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:39.439
don't know what's They don't really know
what they're doing anything illegal, So it's

1114
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:42.640
it sounds like they're just lazy and
they don't want to get involved in a

1115
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:47.760
conflict. Yeah, that sounds like
it too. But they Now, did

1116
01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:55.199
you know that you have a right
as a citizen who you are both common

1117
01:29:55.840 --> 01:30:01.920
to the law, meaning you can
actually sue in civil court if your neighbors

1118
01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:10.359
are violating a law that is damaging
you. And now that I know that,

1119
01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:14.600
that's what I'm thinking of doing is
filing That would be negligence per se.

1120
01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:19.880
Listen, but it's very very technical. You have to have damages as

1121
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:30.399
a result of them breaking the law. Oh, well, it's personal damage.

1122
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:32.880
Well what do they know? I'm
serious. Now you have to have

1123
01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:39.760
a damage. What is your damage? Well, just at a lack of

1124
01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:45.199
sleep, noise pollution? Okay,
I imagine that could happen. I don't

1125
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.159
know. You got to find an
attorney. It's going to be expensive,

1126
01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:54.159
but you can sue them if they're
violating laws and it's causing you harm.

1127
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:57.960
I don't know how to put it
all together. I'm just telling you that

1128
01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:00.760
is one way to do it.
You don't have to wait for someone to

1129
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:06.840
enforce the law. You can go
after someone civilly if they're damaging you by

1130
01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:12.640
breaking the law. Have they Have
you talked to any city council members and

1131
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:17.640
lach Bowie, Uh? I did. I brought it up at the city

1132
01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:25.079
council meeting once. That hasn't been
addressed since then, and I was going

1133
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:29.159
to go back to the city council. I just keep hammering them, Man,

1134
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.640
Why do you think they're letting him
do it? Why do you think

1135
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:41.800
they're letting him do it because somebody
knows somebody? Yeah, but I you

1136
01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:45.439
know, black Boy's pretty small,
man, I mean, that's that's pretty

1137
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:51.680
possible there. They're They're very small
and very crooked. Well, okay,

1138
01:31:53.840 --> 01:32:00.000
I doubt someone's being paid off if
that's what you're insinuating. You know what

1139
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:09.680
county is it? Maybe doing more
than the Taco try business? Adams?

1140
01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:14.239
What what is that thousand people man, Adams County? Yeah? No,

1141
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:15.680
no, I mean what does he
mean they may be doing more? What

1142
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:20.159
do you think they're cooking methan there
or what? Oh? Yeah, it's

1143
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:26.439
probably part of the cartel. Okay, Darren, Now you're getting a little

1144
01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:31.960
overboard. Then then I don't know
what to say wrong. Okay, he's

1145
01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:35.520
just frustrated. I mean, you
can tell he's just frustrated. You got

1146
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:39.520
to just keep going to those meetings, man and fill their ears up,

1147
01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:42.319
or like Tom said, hire an
attorney. But it's not going to be

1148
01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:45.399
it's not going to be cheap.
No one's going to do it on contingency

1149
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.760
because I don't even know what the
hell you'd win besides putting them out of

1150
01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:53.560
business. Well right, that's all
I want is for them to stop doing

1151
01:32:53.600 --> 01:33:00.600
it. But also, but also, the contractor will not let me sell

1152
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:06.640
the house. He wants another twenty
five thousand dollars. What contractor, Jim

1153
01:33:06.720 --> 01:33:11.159
Cope? Remember how I talked to
you about Jim Coch. Just wait a

1154
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:14.840
minute, Wait a minute, Darren. How can a contractor prevent you from

1155
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:20.600
selling your house? He said,
he said that you called him back and

1156
01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:25.760
told him I don't even know Sharon. Do me, Darren. Here's what

1157
01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:30.600
I'm asking Darren. Don't I don't
remember it? Not that point, Darren,

1158
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:32.359
Darren, let me ask you something. This is what I need to

1159
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:36.039
know. You have a house,
and you just made a statement. I

1160
01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:44.640
don't understand the contractor will not let
me sell my house. That statement makes

1161
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:50.520
no sense. What contractor? Well, he's wanting to claim inducement of fraud

1162
01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:57.640
that I got him to build it. Oh god, I remember somehow hold

1163
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:00.359
on, yeah, some guy.
Wait wait wait now I remember, hold

1164
01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:03.239
on, I'll recap it now,
I know, hold on, hold on,

1165
01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:13.800
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1180
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two thousand. Okay, So Darren, I looked up your old call.

1181
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:30.159
I remember exactly. Mark listened to
this old call, this previous call.

1182
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:34.000
So he he said he can't sell
his house to get away from these

1183
01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:40.479
truck these food trucks. And here's
why. He hired a contractor to build

1184
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:45.760
a small two bedroom home for him. Okay. And the contract called for

1185
01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:51.119
two thousand, two hundred thousand dollars
to build it, plus sixty five hundred

1186
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:58.520
in an addendum. During the project, Darren decided he wanted to sell and

1187
01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:04.279
get out of that neighborhood, but
the contractor threatened him, and the contractor

1188
01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:11.119
said it was fraud in the inducement. Now, why would a contractor who

1189
01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:15.520
built a home for two hundred and
six thousand, five hundred dollars claim it

1190
01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:25.880
was fraud if he sold the house
mark why I don't recall. Here's why

1191
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:29.800
I know. I was asking you
if you could fathom any reason why this

1192
01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:35.319
guy would have a case. This
contractor claimed that Darren cried poor mouth to

1193
01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:41.680
him and got the contractor to build
a house. I do remember that,

1194
01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:45.640
okay, and then fat okay,
he actually had some money. No,

1195
01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:48.680
it's not that he had money,
not at all. He said that Darren

1196
01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:55.920
claimed to be poor and couldn't afford
a house, and and so the contractor

1197
01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:00.800
gave him a special discount. Now
the contract says no, nothing about that.

1198
01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:03.560
There is nothing in writing except the
price of the house. Now,

1199
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:08.920
Darren stood to make a profit on
this house when he sold it, and

1200
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:14.159
the contractor was pissed off because the
contractor said, if I knew you were

1201
01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:16.319
going to sell it for a profit, I would have charged you more.

1202
01:37:16.680 --> 01:37:21.399
Now, Darren, I don't care
what that lying's thieving contractor told you.

1203
01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:27.560
I never called that contractor and told
him to sue you. Never did I

1204
01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:30.960
say that. So Darren, you're
free to sell your house. This contractor

1205
01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.600
doesn't have a leg to stand on. Why the hell would you think that

1206
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:40.760
a contractor who's been paid in full
would have some kind of hold over you

1207
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:46.880
selling your house. You know,
I knew you were going to say that,

1208
01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:51.920
because I knew he was lying when
he said that he called him back.

1209
01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:57.520
There was no reason to call him. There was no reason to call

1210
01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:01.119
him because you fell for his cap
Amy's story. Do you know, just

1211
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:04.800
like you think your neighbors are working
for the cartel, Darren, you put

1212
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:11.560
your house up for sale and sell
it. Okay, okay, because you

1213
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:15.239
know, like I said, he
threatened me with inducement or fraud. I'm

1214
01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:19.439
not trying to sell it to make
money, Darren. It wouldn't matter if

1215
01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:25.520
you made a million dollars. The
guy built you a house and you paid

1216
01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:32.119
him. He also, in order
for me to get the certificate of occupancy,

1217
01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:38.880
he forced me to give him another
fifteen hundred dollars that he said was

1218
01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:44.399
for repairs. He never maar anything
that's water. That's water under the bridge.

1219
01:38:44.439 --> 01:38:47.520
Man, You already did that.
But is there anything in writing ever

1220
01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:51.640
that said if you sold the house
you would give him a portion of the

1221
01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:58.199
proceeds. No, no, is
there anything at all? Is there anything

1222
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:02.119
at all that says he's giving you
a special price, under the condition that

1223
01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:09.439
you keep it a certain number of
years. No, no, nothing in

1224
01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:15.520
writing. He was just assuming that
that I did you tell him? Did

1225
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:20.079
you tell him that you would keep
the house and you couldn't afford a house,

1226
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:23.840
And did he say, well,
then I'll give you a special deal.

1227
01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:29.239
Well, I told him, yes, that I wanted to live in

1228
01:39:29.279 --> 01:39:32.800
the house for the rest of my
life. Okay, Okay, so that's

1229
01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:39.199
not fraud. That that's not fraud, and that's not a contract. Listen,

1230
01:39:39.239 --> 01:39:43.119
bro Darren, you're a little nutty. I'm not going to be I'm

1231
01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:45.840
not going to lie to you.
You're a little nutty. You're nutty that

1232
01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:48.159
you think your neighbors are with the
cartel. You're nutty that you think this

1233
01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:53.720
guy can sue you. It's just
a little nutty. Okay. So I

1234
01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:57.399
don't know how to help you.
I don't have medication available, but I

1235
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:00.680
think you should sell your house and
get out of the neighborhood. Three oh

1236
01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:04.000
three seven one three talks seven one
three eight two five five. Joe,

1237
01:40:04.079 --> 01:40:09.520
what's going on with you? Joe? Hey? Tom? Hey, Tom?

1238
01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:14.159
I promised not to be nutty,
Okay, what's happening on? I

1239
01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:17.840
called you a couple months ago,
I had a PayPal credit card backed by

1240
01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:24.079
the wonderful folks at Synchrony Bank,
right, And it was a card that

1241
01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:28.319
I never used, but I sent
seventy five bucks a month to it like

1242
01:40:28.439 --> 01:40:32.359
clockwork, thinking it was like paying
a Roku bill or some stupid bill.

1243
01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:39.079
Right, So I never looked at
the actual bills coming in because if I

1244
01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:41.720
was overpaying, I would get a
check in the mail and I would stop

1245
01:40:42.159 --> 01:40:45.960
send him the seventy five bucks a
month. But what I what did happen

1246
01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:50.159
is I was served with a lawsuit
for three thousand, four hundred and eighty

1247
01:40:50.199 --> 01:40:57.600
two dollars and I have no idea
how that money, how that bill was

1248
01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:02.119
generated. I've asked the law firm
that is really, who's wait a minute,

1249
01:41:02.159 --> 01:41:08.439
man, who's suing you? They
sold it to a collection agency?

1250
01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:13.479
Who's they? Who's they who sold
it to? So you're telling me,

1251
01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:18.319
you're telling me you had a PayPal
credit card, right, And did you

1252
01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:24.079
use the credit card? Never?
I never touched the credit card. And

1253
01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:28.119
why were you sending him seventy five
dollars? That good question, why are

1254
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:31.319
you sending? Yeah? I assumed
it was a Roku or you know,

1255
01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:34.039
a reoccurring bill that it was just
paying. So I was just sending it

1256
01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:41.520
seventy five bucks outside you you were
sending seventy five bucks to Synchrony, but

1257
01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:45.479
you had no idea why. Well, yeah, I I know that when

1258
01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:48.800
I started that seventy five bucks,
there was a reoccurring bill on it.

1259
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:53.279
I mean, that's the only reason
I would do that. What was the

1260
01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:57.319
reoccurring bill? That's what I mean. What was the reoccurring bill that showed

1261
01:41:57.359 --> 01:42:00.960
up on Synchrony. It's so many
yours ago. I think it was Roku

1262
01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:06.199
and another you know little okay,
how many? How many? And why

1263
01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:10.760
was it put on Synchrony because it
was put on your PayPal credit card?

1264
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:15.960
Right. Synchrony is the company that
basically runs the credit card for PayPal.

1265
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:19.239
They run the credit card. They
run the credit card for Amazon too.

1266
01:42:20.399 --> 01:42:26.840
Yeah yeah, yeah, So was
it Amazon or PayPal? It's PayPal,

1267
01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:30.319
it is was a PayPal credit card? All right? Hold on a second,

1268
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:32.720
Joe, I have an idea.
Hold on a second, Just hang

1269
01:42:32.760 --> 01:42:41.840
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1276
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:28.159
scare with you now? Joe said
he was making payments to Synchrony of

1277
01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:32.000
seventy five dollars a month. When
did you stop making those payments? If

1278
01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:40.760
ever, I stopped? I stopped? When basically the lawyer when they sold

1279
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:45.880
the debt to the collection agency slash
law team. So what debt? Did

1280
01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:49.840
they say? So you knew of
some kind of debt with what you're not

1281
01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:56.560
making sense this payment you were This
was not just on a recurring charge.

1282
01:43:56.600 --> 01:43:59.720
This was on a lump. This
was on a balance that you owed.

1283
01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:04.039
Is that true? They? Here's
the big press. The matter is they

1284
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:09.800
can't prove how I got that balance. The Okay, then I have an

1285
01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:12.720
action for you. Then I have
a way you can win. But you're

1286
01:44:12.760 --> 01:44:15.640
gonna have to listen, and I'm
sorry I ran out of time. It

1287
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:17.600
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01:45:12.359 --> 01:45:16.760
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the show. Oh, let's talk
to you. Joe listen. I do

1307
01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:10.800
know how to help you, but
but I do want to just say this.

1308
01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:17.439
Somehow you accumulated a balance on the
PayPal credit card with Synchrony Bank,

1309
01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:21.880
let's just say Synchrony Bank. And
you have no idea really how it got

1310
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:27.359
there, but you made payments on
it for seventy five bucks a month.

1311
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:31.279
Apparently while you were making those seventy
five dollars payments, it was not enough

1312
01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:35.640
to keep up with it. And
now you have a lump sum do that

1313
01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:40.279
they're suing you for? How much
is lump sum? Four thousand? Did

1314
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:44.720
you say? Yeah? Three four
and eighty two. And this is the

1315
01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:48.439
biggest problem is every connection I've had
with the folks who are now trying to

1316
01:46:48.439 --> 01:46:53.079
collect the debt, I've asked them, how did this start. You know

1317
01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:56.479
what was John, Here's what I
want to know. Why don't you know?

1318
01:46:56.800 --> 01:47:00.000
Why don't you know? I because
I don't remember using the card,

1319
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:05.359
that's the But you apparently, Okay, then that's stupid. If you don't

1320
01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:11.359
remember using a card. I would
never send seventy five dollars a month for

1321
01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:16.640
years to a card I never used. Well, there, I agree with

1322
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:23.520
that. I have to plead stupidity. There, it's just that. But

1323
01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:27.880
all of a sudden. But when
I'm going apparently, let's start at the

1324
01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:31.600
beginning. Joe, Apparently you did
apply for a PayPal credit card. Oh

1325
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:39.640
yeah, why why? Just just
real quick answers. Why? Why it's

1326
01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:42.880
been so long? I don't remember
why I How long ago was it?

1327
01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:45.439
That's what I want to know.
How long ago was it? I'm guessing

1328
01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:49.680
at least five years ago, at
least okay, at least five okay,

1329
01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:55.319
because if it was six years ago
that you stopped paying, if it was

1330
01:47:55.439 --> 01:48:00.359
six years ago that this bill was
incurred, they can't get a joejudgment.

1331
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:04.800
It's against the statute limitations, it's
beyond the statute. Okay, So that's

1332
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:09.439
one thing to keep in mind.
And they but but if you were making

1333
01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:13.279
seventy five dollars a month payments,
you were keeping it alive. So when

1334
01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:17.760
did you stop? Well, I
stopped when they sold the debt to the

1335
01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:23.840
collection. When now I don't know
when I'm asking you, when okay,

1336
01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:28.399
ten, ten twenty three with the
last bill, okay, then it's probably

1337
01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:31.079
it's probably alive. And well,
you have a balance due that you don't

1338
01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:34.239
agree with or you don't know how
it came up with. So here's what

1339
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:40.600
you do. You tell them that
without documentation, you will not pay the

1340
01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:43.960
debt, and they're going to take
you to court and they're going to have

1341
01:48:44.039 --> 01:48:46.800
to show the court documentation and if
they can't, you don't have to pay

1342
01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:51.720
it. They don't get to just
collect from you unless they get a judgment.

1343
01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:56.560
And the only way they get a
judgment is proving that you owe the

1344
01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:00.199
money and the only way to prove
you owe the money is with an account

1345
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:04.720
transcript. That's it. You win
if you don't have that bill o'ed.

1346
01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:12.399
Here's the big problem is I don't
know, and this is why I'm The

1347
01:49:12.479 --> 01:49:15.960
crux of the reason I've called is
if there's somebody in the debt collection business

1348
01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:20.319
that knows that when they buy this
debt because that's how they get a hold

1349
01:49:20.359 --> 01:49:25.119
of them. Right, they put
pennies on the dollar to buy my debts.

1350
01:49:25.239 --> 01:49:29.800
Right, you only have twelve months
of accounting that they've sent me three

1351
01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:32.439
times now because every time I've dealt
with these folks who are trying to get

1352
01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:36.960
the money, I said, just
show me where this started. But they

1353
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.640
don't have to show you. They
don't have to. They don't have to

1354
01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:46.079
show you. They don't have to
show you where it started. What they

1355
01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:53.720
have to show you is the time
when you kept paying on it. It

1356
01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:59.359
is assumed you acknowledge the debt.
All they have to show you is what

1357
01:49:59.439 --> 01:50:04.279
the balance was at that time and
what it accumulated to after you stopped paying.

1358
01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:09.039
You are under the impression they have
to go back to the beginning of

1359
01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:16.640
time. Well, that is the
what started this whole thing is the beginning

1360
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:21.640
of the debt. I have been
a victim of identity sept multiple times.

1361
01:50:21.800 --> 01:50:26.920
You were making pay you Okay,
whether whether you like it or not,

1362
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:30.439
you confirmed the debt. Okay.
That's that you're never going to go back.

1363
01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:34.199
You're never going to go back and
say it wasn't my debt. You

1364
01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:38.720
confirmed it. You made payments for
how many years? How many years?

1365
01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:45.319
I have no idea. Okay,
I started that, I think, Joe,

1366
01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:49.079
Joe, it's your debt. Okay, it's your debt. But they

1367
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:54.079
do have to show you did have
a You did open an account with PayPal,

1368
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:58.119
but you admit that, so you
did you open the account. Now

1369
01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.039
there could have been fraudulent charge on
there. There could have been. Maybe

1370
01:51:01.039 --> 01:51:05.279
you didn't make any of those charges, but you just pay your bills every

1371
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:09.439
month, and that was one of
them. But because you did it for

1372
01:51:09.479 --> 01:51:13.600
so long, you can't contest them. Now it's too late. It's too

1373
01:51:13.640 --> 01:51:18.439
late. You confirmed. What don't
you understand, Joe? What do you

1374
01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:21.840
not? What do you not understand? What do we understand? What I

1375
01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:30.359
don't understand is we we know Synchrony
has in their computers every friggin transaction I

1376
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:34.159
made. Why can't they spit them
out and show them, Joe, to

1377
01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:40.520
both the people who are suing me
and me, because they hold let me

1378
01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:44.199
try something. When they sold that
debt, the person that sold it,

1379
01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:47.640
Sacrony Bank, agreed that they were
done with it. They washed their hands

1380
01:51:47.720 --> 01:51:54.399
of it. They won't get involved
in it in anything else. We mean

1381
01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:58.439
you have such an odd Oh my
god, I'm going to hang myself if

1382
01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:03.279
you don't go on, Tom,
It's never ending. Joe, Joe,

1383
01:52:03.319 --> 01:52:10.720
listen what you're saying. You're not
listening, Joe. You're close. Well,

1384
01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:13.159
well, Joe, you keep saying
the same thing over and over.

1385
01:52:13.279 --> 01:52:17.680
You want to know when they sold
that debt. They It's very likely they

1386
01:52:17.680 --> 01:52:21.760
got rid of their records. It's
very likely they sold it. They don't

1387
01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:26.119
care about it. They wrote it
off. They sold it, and whatever

1388
01:52:26.159 --> 01:52:29.680
they sold it for they wrote against
the debt and the rest of it's gone.

1389
01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:32.279
Now the debt, the new guy
that took over the debt. What

1390
01:52:32.319 --> 01:52:36.880
you're saying is because they can't go
back from the beginning of time, they're

1391
01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:41.079
going to have a tard time proving
it was yours to begin with. Well,

1392
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:45.199
if you claimed it was identity theft, you never opened the account,

1393
01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:49.800
or the chargers were fraudulent, that
would have worked had you not paid on

1394
01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:56.880
it for years. Okay, okay. Now, so the time they took

1395
01:52:56.920 --> 01:53:00.640
over that debt to the time you
stopped making payment, they only go back

1396
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:04.399
to where you stop making payments.
You had a legitimate debt you were paying

1397
01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:10.479
on for years. You stop making
payments. That's why they're going back twelve

1398
01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:15.439
months. Now you can argue your
argument. I'm not saying it won't work.

1399
01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:17.359
You can go when they sue you, and they will, but wait

1400
01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:20.720
for them to sue you. They
have to sue you to get a judgment.

1401
01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:25.479
I have a courting date, Jane
twentieth. I have to appear,

1402
01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:29.279
and when you show up. When
you show up, you're simply going to

1403
01:53:29.359 --> 01:53:34.000
ask for documentation and you're going to
say you don't even believe it's your debt.

1404
01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:38.479
Now, if they bring up the
point you've been paying for years and

1405
01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:41.560
the judge says, well, you're
crazy, But the judge might say,

1406
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:45.119
well, what documentation do you have? You don't know how it's going to

1407
01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:47.840
go, just because we think it
could go a certain way. The judge

1408
01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:53.239
can rule anyway he wants, okay, or she wants so so, so

1409
01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:58.239
take your chances. That's it now. It's thirty four hundred dollars right now.

1410
01:53:58.760 --> 01:54:01.000
If you go to court, it's
probably going to be four to five

1411
01:54:01.119 --> 01:54:05.000
grand. But that's okay. Take
your chances. You know you're so hell

1412
01:54:05.119 --> 01:54:09.840
bent on not paying it. Take
your chances. That's what you do.

1413
01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:15.640
I get you take your chances.
There is a chance there is a chance,

1414
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:17.800
Joe, that that the whole thing. The guy might say, get

1415
01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:21.880
out of here. They don't like
collectors that don't have documentation. But again,

1416
01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:26.680
when that documentation has to go back
for As a matter of opinion,

1417
01:54:27.039 --> 01:54:31.079
some people say it is what's called
no vation or confirmation when you make your

1418
01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:35.560
payments and payments and payments and then
stop. Others will say they have to

1419
01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:40.640
go back. It depends on what
judge you get there you go three oh

1420
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:44.119
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01:55:26.039 --> 01:55:29.680
oh three seven seven to one.
Help. You'll think you're his only customer

1429
01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:32.359
when you choose Frank durand the real
estate man dot com to list your home

1430
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:42.920
with Remax Alliance three oh three nine
two zero sixteen twenty two. Tom Martino

1431
01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:46.920
here, three oh three seven one
three talk seven one three A two five

1432
01:55:47.079 --> 01:55:56.680
five. What's going on? Doug? What's happening you every day when I'm

1433
01:55:56.760 --> 01:56:00.039
home in town? Thank you,
Thank you man. I went to the

1434
01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:05.800
mailbox yesterday when I got back in
town, and I found a completed life

1435
01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:15.600
insurance policy paperwork. Wait that you
supposedly did? Somebody signed a name that

1436
01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:21.199
doesn't look anything like my name on
the application form. My birthday's not correct,

1437
01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:25.680
my place of birth is not correct, my phone number is not correct,

1438
01:56:26.279 --> 01:56:30.439
but the address is right, and
the Social Security number is correct.

1439
01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:35.640
It's your name and your social everything
else is not correct and your address,

1440
01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:41.600
but everything else is not correct.
Yes, exactly, it's what is what

1441
01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:45.960
is this? What are you applying
for? In this application? Twenty five

1442
01:56:45.520 --> 01:56:54.720
dollars of simplified whole life insurance payable
in premiums monthly on an auto draft.

1443
01:56:54.920 --> 01:57:00.520
And who's the agent? Say?
It's somebody named Gregory John Wolbright. Did

1444
01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:05.279
you call him and say this is
not me? Every place there's a phone

1445
01:57:05.359 --> 01:57:11.680
number for him is blank on this
paperwork, And I didn't know what to

1446
01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:15.399
do first, So I'm asking you, where's the underwriter, Doug? Who's

1447
01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:23.000
the underwriter? Government Personnel mutual life
insurance out of San Antonio, Texas.

1448
01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:28.880
Why don't you start with them and
tell them you ever get through the phone?

1449
01:57:28.119 --> 01:57:32.880
That if because it rings and then
he put on hold for an hour,

1450
01:57:33.079 --> 01:57:39.800
two hours and they'll be ever picks
it up. Now I know the

1451
01:57:39.840 --> 01:57:45.039
origin of this possibly is a whear
ago. I was shopping for life insurance

1452
01:57:45.760 --> 01:57:53.439
and I applied with this company.
But at the same time, my bank

1453
01:57:53.479 --> 01:57:57.159
account got hijacked and I had to
go to first bank and get a new

1454
01:57:57.159 --> 01:58:00.760
bank account. So I tried to
call this coming beneath to tell them the

1455
01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:04.720
account number they had not going to
work. So wait a minute, so

1456
01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:09.199
you okay, So wait a minute. Then then it's not so foreign.

1457
01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:14.439
You did apply for this policy.
You did apply for not not on May

1458
01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:16.760
twenty seconds of this year. I
did not, no, no, no,

1459
01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:21.560
I understand that you applied for it
back when a year year and a

1460
01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:26.920
half ago okay, and when you
applied for it, they could never draft

1461
01:58:26.960 --> 01:58:30.520
a payment. But had your bank
account not been hijacked back then, you

1462
01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:34.720
would have had a policy with them. Is that correct? I would have

1463
01:58:35.119 --> 01:58:39.159
back then. Okay, I get
it, I get it. That's all

1464
01:58:39.199 --> 01:58:42.239
I'm asking. I'm not trying to
hook you. So you would have had

1465
01:58:42.239 --> 01:58:47.119
a policy back then, but because
you could not authorize payment because you had

1466
01:58:47.159 --> 01:58:50.600
a new account and could never get
through to them, it was never put

1467
01:58:50.640 --> 01:58:58.439
through. So therefore, somehow this
agent or whoever you were in contact with

1468
01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:02.239
was contacted finally by the car.
They're finally getting around to you saying we

1469
01:59:02.359 --> 01:59:06.720
never activated this policy, and I
know what happened. The guy filled it

1470
01:59:06.760 --> 01:59:10.920
out again with a new with a
new date and sent it to you.

1471
01:59:11.279 --> 01:59:14.199
What are you supposed to do with
this? Does it ask you to sign

1472
01:59:14.239 --> 01:59:16.800
it? What does it ask you
to do? It wants me to sign

1473
01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:25.680
for receipt of a policy. And
then what who's paying for it? And

1474
01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:30.119
who's paying for it? I'm supposed
to be paying for it? But they

1475
01:59:30.119 --> 01:59:35.520
don't have drafts from but they have
nothing. They have nothing to draft payments

1476
01:59:35.560 --> 01:59:43.640
from. Right, Okay, Doug, I suspect listen, you may not

1477
01:59:43.800 --> 01:59:46.359
like what I'm saying, but if
what you're telling me is correct, just

1478
01:59:46.479 --> 01:59:55.680
because you did not let them draft
the premium doesn't mean you're not obligated to

1479
01:59:55.720 --> 01:59:59.920
a contract. Let me give you
an example. If I signed a cont

1480
02:00:00.119 --> 02:00:05.079
tract for an annuity, for a
license excuse me, for insurance, or

1481
02:00:05.119 --> 02:00:15.079
for a car, and I was
supposed to supply bank account information, I

1482
02:00:15.159 --> 02:00:18.840
did, and I did not,
and I dropped the ball or forgot about

1483
02:00:18.880 --> 02:00:21.720
it or they didn't answer their phone. No matter what the reason was,

1484
02:00:23.800 --> 02:00:33.039
I could still be liable for the
contract you promised to pay. You have

1485
02:00:33.119 --> 02:00:41.159
a contract. The fact that they
never drafted your account makes it an account

1486
02:00:41.720 --> 02:00:50.840
do not free unless the contract said
it's only it's only official if you make

1487
02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:58.319
your first payment or whatever it could
be that you are obligated to pay because

1488
02:00:58.359 --> 02:01:01.880
you do have a contract. Now
they haven't tried to collect yet. And

1489
02:01:01.960 --> 02:01:05.159
you may think I'm not signing for
receipt of this. I don't have a

1490
02:01:05.199 --> 02:01:11.439
contract. If they show you an
active contract that you signed back a year

1491
02:01:11.439 --> 02:01:15.800
and a half ago, they cannot
only get you for that contract. But

1492
02:01:15.880 --> 02:01:18.239
if they claimed you were insured the
whole time, they can get you for

1493
02:01:18.319 --> 02:01:26.359
back premiums if you have a contract. Well, in the initial thirty day

1494
02:01:28.199 --> 02:01:33.159
preview window when they mailed me the
policy, I canceled the policy at that

1495
02:01:33.239 --> 02:01:38.039
time and mailed it back tome.
Okay, and do you have proof?

1496
02:01:38.319 --> 02:01:45.399
Hold on, do you have proof
you canceled it? That's like a photocopy

1497
02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:48.000
of the page. No, any
I mean you said you canceled it.

1498
02:01:48.079 --> 02:01:55.159
So so back then you say you
had a thirty day review period for a

1499
02:01:55.199 --> 02:01:59.399
policy. Yeah, when they mailed
to me the policy the first time,

1500
02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:03.279
and they say what do they tell
you to do? That says if we

1501
02:02:03.319 --> 02:02:08.239
do not hear back from you in
thirty days from the original date, that

1502
02:02:08.439 --> 02:02:14.119
okas you approve of Okay, did
hear back from me? Because I also

1503
02:02:14.239 --> 02:02:18.520
got a call for an attempted call
from the woman that works in this agents.

1504
02:02:18.640 --> 02:02:23.439
Okay, so you have you have
that original letter from them that says

1505
02:02:23.439 --> 02:02:27.079
you have thirty days to contact them. Sure, yes, it's in the

1506
02:02:27.079 --> 02:02:30.239
file. Good. Well, then
you have nothing to worry about. You

1507
02:02:30.279 --> 02:02:32.159
don't have a contract, but they
think you do, just so you know,

1508
02:02:34.720 --> 02:02:42.680
starting a week ago, I think
what's happening is that's somebody Yeah,

1509
02:02:42.760 --> 02:02:45.640
yeah, that's what I think they're
doing now. I'm not saying they're going

1510
02:02:45.720 --> 02:02:48.800
to be successful, and that's why
you should, you know, make sure

1511
02:02:48.840 --> 02:02:54.479
they don't have your policies or anything. But don't be surprised if after this

1512
02:02:54.640 --> 02:03:00.840
a bill shows up for a premium. I mean, I'm not saying you

1513
02:03:00.880 --> 02:03:03.399
have to pay it. Bro.
There are all kinds of weird people in

1514
02:03:03.439 --> 02:03:08.960
this world. You had a contract, and I think what happened is no

1515
02:03:09.000 --> 02:03:13.840
one acknowledged that you canceled it,
and somebody put a new date on it

1516
02:03:13.880 --> 02:03:16.199
and sent it to you saying the
hell with this, you know, we'll

1517
02:03:16.239 --> 02:03:20.560
just start it again this year.
And does it say on this new one

1518
02:03:20.640 --> 02:03:27.439
that you have to notify them within
thirty days? Yeah? The cover letter

1519
02:03:27.520 --> 02:03:33.760
inside this has the same form letter
good that you have thirty days and what

1520
02:03:33.880 --> 02:03:38.720
do they say? You have thirty
days to say no, or thirty days

1521
02:03:38.760 --> 02:03:43.479
if you don't contact them. It's
automatically because they're not allowed to really send

1522
02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:46.800
you an automatic activation. It says, if we do not hear back from

1523
02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:50.079
you within thirty days from the date
of this letter, we will assume that

1524
02:03:50.159 --> 02:03:55.960
you approve of and accept the policy
as received. You know what, That's

1525
02:03:56.039 --> 02:04:00.279
exactly what they're doing. They're giving
you the original letter back they never heard

1526
02:04:00.279 --> 02:04:02.479
from you back. Then they're claiming
they never heard from you. So they're

1527
02:04:02.479 --> 02:04:08.920
doing it again. You better make
What I would do is make some kind

1528
02:04:08.920 --> 02:04:14.560
of documentation they're going by the original
contact. I would. I would.

1529
02:04:14.840 --> 02:04:17.680
This is a hell a boy of
doing business, but just to protect yourself,

1530
02:04:17.920 --> 02:04:27.600
you better contact them. I would
Doug send him a certified receipt you

1531
02:04:27.720 --> 02:04:30.159
live. Do you live in the
old ages? Do they even do that

1532
02:04:30.199 --> 02:04:31.960
anymore? Yeah? But this way
he has proof that they received it.

1533
02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:36.239
Tom, Well, do they even
do certified mail? I'm serious when I'm

1534
02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:42.720
asking you. I've never heard of
it anymore. Oh. Absolutely, But

1535
02:04:42.800 --> 02:04:46.640
the important thing is return receipt requested, so that proves that they got it

1536
02:04:47.000 --> 02:04:49.800
and then. But I would do
more than that. I would also call

1537
02:04:49.880 --> 02:04:55.279
an email and keep a trail.
Yeah. Yeah, I didn't realize that.

1538
02:04:55.399 --> 02:04:58.560
This one says, if they don't
hear from you, it's automatic.

1539
02:04:59.039 --> 02:05:03.079
What balls do they have? Man? Is in the state, Well,

1540
02:05:03.199 --> 02:05:08.279
it's hold on. They have to
have a previously existing relationship for it to

1541
02:05:08.319 --> 02:05:11.239
be legal, or that's the way
it used to be. I don't know

1542
02:05:11.279 --> 02:05:14.560
the new laws on it. For
example, they're not just allowed to send

1543
02:05:14.560 --> 02:05:16.920
you something like a magazine and say
to you, if you don't send it

1544
02:05:16.960 --> 02:05:20.640
back, you have a subscription.
They're not allowed to do anything like that.

1545
02:05:20.920 --> 02:05:27.520
But with a pre existing relationship on
insurance and all of that, normally

1546
02:05:27.560 --> 02:05:31.840
they still do the negative decline.
They don't do the automatic assumption. But

1547
02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:35.159
but that's why I'm saying, I've
never heard of such a thing. It

1548
02:05:35.319 --> 02:05:40.239
just doesn't sound legit. Did you
look up this insurance company? How legit

1549
02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:44.680
are they? How did you find
them? To begin with? I called?

1550
02:05:45.760 --> 02:05:47.399
Who did I call? A year
ago? You got to call?

1551
02:05:47.560 --> 02:05:50.800
You must have talked to Is this
a new agent or do you remember talking

1552
02:05:50.840 --> 02:05:56.119
to this agent? I don't.
I never talked to the agent. I

1553
02:05:56.159 --> 02:05:58.520
talked to the woman in the office
that took the affic. Well, you

1554
02:05:58.640 --> 02:06:01.640
better keep trying to call because this
is bull crap. I mean, this

1555
02:06:01.760 --> 02:06:08.640
is bull crap. Also, yeah, that's my social Everything else is wrong.

1556
02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:12.000
And the one thing they got right
was the social I know, but

1557
02:06:13.600 --> 02:06:17.239
crazy. Just just make sure bank
account number, no, they have your

1558
02:06:17.239 --> 02:06:23.840
address correct as well. That's it. Yeah, make sure you cancel call

1559
02:06:23.920 --> 02:06:26.000
us back if you have a problem. Man, you got to get a

1560
02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:29.319
hold of somebody, and you have
to do what Doc said. Send some

1561
02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:32.560
mail as well to cover your ass
and let us know what happens. Three

1562
02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:38.119
oh three seven one three talks seven
one three eight two five five. Yeah,

1563
02:06:38.159 --> 02:06:42.960
that guy's smart to take this seriously. By the way, you know,

1564
02:06:43.399 --> 02:06:48.039
Premiere is the name of a window
cleaning and pressure washing company. They're

1565
02:06:48.079 --> 02:06:54.199
also doing window tinting. And I
know these young men. They have a

1566
02:06:54.239 --> 02:06:59.560
great company. We clean windows dot
co. Get your windows cleaned. It's

1567
02:06:59.560 --> 02:07:02.399
spring time, time is getting into
summers when people do it seven two zero

1568
02:07:03.359 --> 02:07:10.000
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02:07:10.199 --> 02:07:20.800
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1571
02:07:28.279 --> 02:07:32.479
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02:07:32.600 --> 02:07:36.560
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1573
02:07:36.640 --> 02:07:41.279
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1574
02:07:41.359 --> 02:07:45.960
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02:07:45.960 --> 02:07:56.359
oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty
two Hi Tom Martine here three oh three

1576
02:07:56.439 --> 02:07:59.399
seven one three talk seven three two
five five. So let's go to Pete,

1577
02:07:59.399 --> 02:08:05.399
Pete. What's happen opening with you? Hello, Pete, Pete?

1578
02:08:07.039 --> 02:08:11.960
Uh? Yeah, what's going on? Pete? Hey? You know Dom?

1579
02:08:11.560 --> 02:08:15.760
Uh? You know? I've got
a problem, Yes, sir,

1580
02:08:15.880 --> 02:08:22.720
what is it? I have parasites? Okay, okay, okay, I've

1581
02:08:22.720 --> 02:08:26.880
been to five different doctors out here
in Colorado. Now can you tell me

1582
02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:31.000
what kind of parasites? Well,
I don't know, Tom, I don't

1583
02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:33.319
know what they are, don't I
know? What I mean is what I

1584
02:08:33.399 --> 02:08:39.680
mean is where are they? They're
in my body? Like where all through

1585
02:08:39.720 --> 02:08:41.600
them? They started in my feet? Now my nose is breaking out.

1586
02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:48.039
Okay, let me, Pete,
Pete, listen, I've handled Oh let

1587
02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:52.600
me look it up about eight or
nine calls like this. So how did

1588
02:08:52.640 --> 02:08:58.560
you discover what they were? And
why do you think they're parasites? Well,

1589
02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:03.359
I've I've looked it up. I've
read about him. But what what

1590
02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:07.079
first started you on this journey?
That's what I need to know, I

1591
02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:11.359
really do. I need to know
what first caused this to to appear?

1592
02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:15.600
Like did you all of a sudden
have itching and then looked up something.

1593
02:09:15.720 --> 02:09:20.119
How did it work? I did
have itching in my legs and my feet

1594
02:09:20.359 --> 02:09:26.159
And then what and you started looking
on the internet? Yeah, okay,

1595
02:09:26.199 --> 02:09:31.439
and what what did you find?
Well? I just started reading about him

1596
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:37.279
and you know that. That's when
I went down to the urgent care on

1597
02:09:37.680 --> 02:09:41.680
Wadsworth. And what did they say? Well, she the doctor, first

1598
02:09:41.680 --> 02:09:46.880
doctor that I've seen, told me
she didn't see any signs of it.

1599
02:09:46.880 --> 02:09:52.079
It wrote me prescriptions for su cream. Yeah, and then what I came

1600
02:09:52.119 --> 02:09:58.039
home didn't work. Went back in
a month seeing another doctor. Yeah,

1601
02:09:58.560 --> 02:10:01.680
I told them when I had.
They said no, he told me what

1602
02:10:01.840 --> 02:10:05.960
I had, what he wanted me
to have, wrote me a prescription for

1603
02:10:05.039 --> 02:10:09.000
su cream. He thought you had. What did he think you had?

1604
02:10:09.920 --> 02:10:13.720
I can't remember, Tom, what
he said. I hadn't been four months

1605
02:10:13.720 --> 02:10:18.560
ago. But anyways, that didn't
work. So I went back another month.

1606
02:10:18.079 --> 02:10:22.239
I seen another doctor. He guaranteed
me what I had and what was

1607
02:10:22.279 --> 02:10:26.319
that? What did he say?
I can't remember what they said. Tom,

1608
02:10:26.439 --> 02:10:31.079
It's been three months ago and I've
been through so much. But anyways,

1609
02:10:31.760 --> 02:10:39.239
he wrote me a prescription for some
bacteria. Can I ask you something?

1610
02:10:39.359 --> 02:10:43.399
Can I ask you something? Bro? What do you think is going

1611
02:10:43.439 --> 02:10:48.359
on, Well, I got I
got something. My nose is breaking out.

1612
02:10:48.600 --> 02:10:52.399
I can pick. I picked my
arms where I could film, and

1613
02:10:52.479 --> 02:10:54.760
I mean I can see. I
can see things moving in my arm when

1614
02:10:54.800 --> 02:11:01.199
I when I cut over. Okay, what now? Now? I assume

1615
02:11:01.239 --> 02:11:05.479
you called me because you wanted an
opinion and you trust me, and all

1616
02:11:05.479 --> 02:11:09.079
I'm gonna say is this. Okay, Pete, here's what I'm gonna say.

1617
02:11:11.039 --> 02:11:16.640
There is a phenomenon. No one
knows why. Every single thing you're

1618
02:11:16.680 --> 02:11:26.840
describing everything, everything is exactly as
you're describing. People feel c itch the

1619
02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:31.119
whole thing. Doctors can't find it, medical tests can't find it. And

1620
02:11:31.159 --> 02:11:41.000
it's called more Gallons disease m O
R G E L L O N S

1621
02:11:41.720 --> 02:11:48.640
more Gallon's disease. Okay, now, did anyone ever mention more Gallon's disease

1622
02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:52.840
to you? No? Okay,
I'm gonna tell you this. Okay,

1623
02:11:54.439 --> 02:12:01.000
it's real, but it's not.
Let me explain this. First of all,

1624
02:12:01.680 --> 02:12:05.960
it causes black, white, red
blue fibers sometimes under the skin that

1625
02:12:07.039 --> 02:12:11.039
appear to move, peeling skin,
itching skin. People feel like something is

1626
02:12:11.119 --> 02:12:18.079
crawling under their skin. The exact
cause is unclear. Many people believe.

1627
02:12:18.439 --> 02:12:24.119
Just so you know, many people, many people have burned their own skin

1628
02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:26.119
to try to get rid of them. They've scraped their own skin. Have

1629
02:12:26.239 --> 02:12:31.399
you ever done anything like that.
I've dug into my arm, but I've

1630
02:12:31.439 --> 02:12:35.399
seen things moving in my arm life. I get it, I get it,

1631
02:12:35.560 --> 02:12:39.680
I get it. But I'm going
to tell you something. You're not

1632
02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:46.560
gonna like what you hear. They
say it's emotional and psychologically based and not

1633
02:12:46.880 --> 02:12:52.600
a real, actual parasite. Now
you may not like it because you swear

1634
02:12:52.760 --> 02:12:58.399
to God it is there, but
there are many other people. But there

1635
02:12:58.560 --> 02:13:05.520
is no Oh, there is absolutely
no anything at all that shows it's viral

1636
02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:13.119
or bacterial. And and many times
it's you have to have something just to

1637
02:13:13.239 --> 02:13:18.520
quell the itching, or an antidepressant
or something. Again, I don't want

1638
02:13:18.560 --> 02:13:22.359
to make light of this, okay, but if you've gone to doctors and

1639
02:13:22.439 --> 02:13:31.800
they can't find the issue, I
believe you. Go ahead, Okay,

1640
02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:35.479
can you guys some down I wander
some bills off of the off the internet

1641
02:13:35.640 --> 02:13:39.680
called Quinn's four. I take,
you know, a couple of months,

1642
02:13:39.680 --> 02:13:43.880
and and I feel a lot better
when I'm taking them. It seems like

1643
02:13:43.880 --> 02:13:46.600
they're going away, you know,
and I'll tell you why. I'll tell

1644
02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:54.319
you why because it's psychological and that
is giving you a great kind of feeling.

1645
02:13:54.520 --> 02:13:56.439
Do it. Then, if you
think it's working, do it.

1646
02:13:58.000 --> 02:14:01.720
Do it to paratize. Look at
there. A parasite detox formula has nothing

1647
02:14:01.720 --> 02:14:05.960
to do with skin parasites what you're
talking about. Listen. I happen to

1648
02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:09.880
know a lot about this because I've
talked to so many people over the years

1649
02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:16.640
and this parasite cleansing product. To
be very honest with you, very few

1650
02:14:16.680 --> 02:14:22.880
people have parasites, especially the kind
you're describing. It's more like outer space

1651
02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:28.640
stuff. It's more I'm not making
fun of you. I believe it's real

1652
02:14:28.680 --> 02:14:31.239
to you, and I believe you
feel everything, and I believe you can

1653
02:14:31.399 --> 02:14:37.239
see it, but other people can't
see it. Why is that, Pete.

1654
02:14:37.239 --> 02:14:39.479
They're not lying to you. Now. I want to ask you another

1655
02:14:39.720 --> 02:14:43.399
very important question, and you're going
to have to be honest with me.

1656
02:14:43.079 --> 02:14:50.119
Did the did the start of this
undiscomfort and disease? Did it come with

1657
02:14:50.399 --> 02:14:58.880
any kind of emotional trauma or upset
or change in your life? No?

1658
02:15:00.239 --> 02:15:03.920
Nothing, Your life was perfect and
then all of a sudden this happened.

1659
02:15:05.119 --> 02:15:09.159
Yeah, Okay, let me tell
you something, Tom, I work over

1660
02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:15.399
or and I work around a lot
of homeless people. Okay, what do

1661
02:15:15.439 --> 02:15:16.840
you do? What do you do
for a living? Pete? What do

1662
02:15:16.880 --> 02:15:24.760
you do? That's what I do? I I clean up property owned by

1663
02:15:26.039 --> 02:15:28.840
uh. Okay, and how old
are you? How old are you?

1664
02:15:28.880 --> 02:15:35.479
Pete? Sixty eight? Okay?
Listen, Pete, I'm telling you you've

1665
02:15:35.520 --> 02:15:39.800
been to doctors and they can't find
the cause. Can they? They have

1666
02:15:39.960 --> 02:15:45.600
looked well because they know that you
don't have it. Because first of all,

1667
02:15:45.600 --> 02:15:50.720
there's no such thing as as parasites
that dig under your skin all over

1668
02:15:50.760 --> 02:15:56.800
your body. There is no such
condition. That's why they know. As

1669
02:15:56.840 --> 02:16:01.000
soon as you walk in, many
of them give you backed antibacterial stuff or

1670
02:16:01.079 --> 02:16:07.079
creams because what they want to do
is they're hoping it has a placebo effect

1671
02:16:07.479 --> 02:16:13.560
and they're hoping it helps you.
Okay, let me ask you one question.

1672
02:16:15.800 --> 02:16:20.239
Now, you would think them,
being doctors, why couldn't they do

1673
02:16:20.279 --> 02:16:26.279
a steel sample and improve one way
or another. And because even if you

1674
02:16:26.439 --> 02:16:30.479
had, even if you had parasites
in your intestines, they're not going to

1675
02:16:30.600 --> 02:16:39.239
manifest under your skin. What you're
describing is not something that would be an

1676
02:16:39.319 --> 02:16:46.159
intestinal parasite or line disease or anything
like it. What you're describing is more

1677
02:16:46.239 --> 02:16:50.879
gallons disease, which is a psychological
disease. Listen, Pete, I don't

1678
02:16:50.879 --> 02:16:54.079
want to take any more time.
I hope you'd honest to God, believe

1679
02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:58.159
me. I'm not trying to hurt
you. I'm trying to help you.

1680
02:16:58.159 --> 02:17:01.840
You don't have parasites, Pete,
because there is no such thing as a

1681
02:17:01.920 --> 02:17:07.280
parasite under skin, all over your
body. It doesn't exist. Okay that

1682
02:17:07.719 --> 02:17:11.879
it exists in space, alien shows
and stuff like that. It's not real.

1683
02:17:13.120 --> 02:17:16.719
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1690
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Okay, let's go to Tony.

1691
02:17:52.200 --> 02:17:58.399
Tony, what's going on with the
IRS? I know that you're running out

1692
02:17:58.440 --> 02:18:01.360
of time doown, so I'll be
quick. Here my twenty twenty two taxes.

1693
02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:07.799
I brought all my information to my
accountant at the very beginning of twenty

1694
02:18:07.920 --> 02:18:13.159
and twenty three, and he got
seriously ill, and he kept on filing

1695
02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:18.799
extensions. I believe you can file
two extensions. I'm not sure about that,

1696
02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:26.639
but go ahead. And then he
finally contacted me in December of twenty

1697
02:18:26.760 --> 02:18:31.440
twenty three and he said, I'm
too sick, and you'll have to come

1698
02:18:31.479 --> 02:18:33.760
and pick up all your paperwork,
and I cannot do your taxes for you.

1699
02:18:35.159 --> 02:18:39.319
So I went to another accountant and
I ended up paying all my taxes

1700
02:18:39.360 --> 02:18:45.000
about nine months later, but I
owed the IRS a little over twelve thousand.

1701
02:18:45.079 --> 02:18:48.360
And all right, Tony, I'm
going to get you on tomorrow with

1702
02:18:48.399 --> 02:18:52.079
an expert. Hang on, Kashina, get him on so we can get

1703
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him up first and help him out. Tony, we're gonna be with you.

1704
02:18:54.520 --> 02:18:58.600
We're going to get an expert to
answer you. I'm Tom Martino.

1705
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