WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.000 The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. This is Alice 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:10.039 Cooper, the original Techno Todd and you're listening to tech Talk Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:13.679 to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm sean to 4 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:17.879 Weird Click, and I'm Justin And now, if you don't know, we 5 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:25.239 are the show that delves into technology, computers and the Internet. We got 6 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:28.839 that down without a script. Good to have God, it only took us 7 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:33.600 three tries. Well, good to have Slick with us this week. We've 8 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:36.359 been talking about a whole bunch of things pre show, so Slicky kind of 9 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:40.479 came in just as we got started. But I'll tell you there's a lot 10 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:43.119 going on in the world of tech. There is. Not only do you 11 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.679 have big, huge news screens where we're going to be talking about, but 12 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:52.039 we're going to talk about the creative stylings of Justin and something he has created 13 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:57.240 that is absolutely blowing my mind. All right, So some people have heard 14 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:02.119 about mid Journey and can you kind of explainsin what mid Journey is all about? 15 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.439 Well, mid Journey is just one of the many facets of this new 16 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:11.599 AI wave of technology, artificial intelligence. You know, a lot of people 17 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.480 have heard about Chat, GPT and Barred and Microsoft bang Chat. You know, 18 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:22.439 these are the text based AI programs that will you know, write things 19 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:26.000 for you or look up answers or even you know, help you solve coding 20 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.239 problems or whatever. But mid Journey is the visual aspect of AI. So 21 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:36.200 what mid Journey does is it's a Discord server. Now Discord is kind of 22 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:38.799 like you know, it's it's a it's a giant chat room. But there's 23 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.400 you know, millions of different you know, chat rooms you can join, 24 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:47.079 and mid Journey is one of them. You do have to pay for it. 25 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.560 It used to be freed during the beta test, but now you have 26 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.359 to pay. I think I pay ten bucks a month. That yeah, 27 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:55.680 and I get like two hundred images or whatever. But basically, what you 28 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.239 do is you go to mid Journey. You give it a prompt, but 29 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.519 now tell it what you do. This all in within Discord, still within 30 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:05.879 Discord. Yes, okay, so you're in Discord. You're in the Discord 31 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.840 server for mid Journey, and there's guides. If you don't know what I'm 32 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:12.479 talking about, there's guides. It'll tell you how to do it. But 33 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:15.319 what you do is you give the bot a prompt, and so what I've 34 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.360 said in the past and and and Slick. If you go to the zoom 35 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:22.479 chat you can see some of the images that I posted earlier. But for 36 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:27.960 instance, what I did with this one is I told it to generate an 37 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.000 image of three guys. Because I didn't know you were joining Slick at this 38 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:37.719 point, so I said, generate an image of three guys discussing technology on 39 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:43.919 a podcast, one of them being older, slightly slightly middle Eastern descent, 40 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:50.680 one of them being middle aged, white guy a little bit slender, and 41 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:55.800 the third guy glasses and just a tiny bit heavy set. I'm not saying 42 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:00.080 you're fat, Sean, just I'm trying to. I'm trying trying you just 43 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:06.240 give it some ideas behind sugar coated. That one didn't he I'm not saying 44 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:13.800 you're not fat, Sean, you're just big boned. Got back here. 45 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:16.479 But I told it to. That's that was the prompt I gave it, 46 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:20.680 and it generated an image and we'll post it up on the website. It's 47 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.759 kind of interesting because it is a photo realistic image. Now it's obviously not 48 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:29.000 us. These are not even real people. It looks real. It looks 49 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.520 like real people. Wait, so these aren't there not, These aren't pulled 50 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:38.599 from a stock photo somewhere I mean initially yeah, because the thing has got 51 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.840 a train. I mean, the AI has to train. So it looks 52 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:46.639 at millions and millions of images and it puts little tiny pieces together to form 53 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:51.800 new things. Now, during the pre show, Sean was discussing about how 54 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.080 AI is is good at a lot of different images, but one thing it 55 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:00.680 can't do. Sean, what was it again that you said hands and feet 56 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.639 right now? Why why is that? Why can't it do that? Apparently 57 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:09.840 it can't count digits on your finger, because there are other images where you'll 58 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.439 look and you'll see a person with like two hands, well I mean two 59 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.879 hands on one side arm, or a hand cut their armor, or a 60 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.399 hand coming out of their hand, or like six fingers, you know. 61 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:24.040 So to segue out of that a little bit, right, it's that it 62 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:29.560 busted a artist who does content for Wizards of the Coast, for Dungelson and 63 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.160 dragons. Right, so some people notice, like why are the hands and 64 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:38.959 the feet of these wolves the paws of these wolves so terrible? And then 65 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:41.759 he's like, oh, yeah, I used AI to finish some of my 66 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.920 artwork, and Wizards is like, what, we don't use AI at any 67 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.439 of our work. Yeah, we don't pay for AI too. Wait it's 68 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:51.120 already published. Oh wow, you see I don't understand. I'm looking at 69 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.959 this and if you're looking at this to the blog, it is mind boggling. 70 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.600 Uh, you know, Slick is looking at this for for the first 71 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.040 time. I just can't believe these aren't real people that somewhere have you know, 72 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.600 uploaded their photo to you know, a resume exchange, and it's just 73 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:11.160 grabbing him because it really, honestly, we don't even have we don't even 74 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.360 have a group shot of us that looks that great. Okay, yes, 75 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.560 truthfully, yes, but we're gonna post a couple more pictures because there are 76 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.160 some pictures that are just completely jacked up. What were you thinking when you 77 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:26.879 asked mid Jersey to create this? Okay, so Slick look at the third 78 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:31.759 the third image total of the third image total. I told it to generate 79 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:43.279 women celebrating pumpkin spice season, and it generated women generating women celebrating pumpkin spice 80 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.639 season. Why but just because people were talking about pumpkin spice season happening, 81 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.560 and women love pumpkin spice for all the reason, all the places that got 82 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:57.759 the pumpkin lattes and Doggy Tree. Just understand how his brain kind of pulls 83 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.680 to give. Well, I just I just randomly think of things. I'm 84 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.040 like, oh, that'd be a cool prompt, and I generated this. 85 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:04.279 But now this third image, look if you look at it and we'll post 86 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:08.720 it on the blog. First off, the eyes of the women are completely 87 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:13.279 jacked up. They look they they look like aliens. One person's face is 88 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:17.040 just completely melting. What what the heck? I mean, it's it's really 89 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:21.959 really messed up. I think if there's a woman pulling another woman's chin down 90 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:26.399 like the Scream and it looks like the scream masks, Yeah, yeah, 91 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.600 yeah. The pumpkins are there, you know, they look good, the 92 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.759 big lots and she looks like a nineties WWE wrestler, yes, with the 93 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:38.160 face paint on, like the Ultimate Warrior or whatever. Her face is melting 94 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:42.120 in her arm is like disappearing in a foam of pumpkinness. But but the 95 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:45.240 thing is is these are these look real. I mean, for the most 96 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:49.079 part, they look real, and so it's it's it's funny to see what 97 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:53.319 AI can generate based on what you give it. Now, you don't have 98 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:55.959 to do photorealistic stuff. You could do artwork. You could be like, 99 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.399 oh, I want an artistic representation of blah blah blah, and it will 100 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:04.040 do that. You can even give AI an image. You can take an 101 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:09.399 image, a real image, and say make this a little different, and 102 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:13.839 it will generate a new image based off the image you've given it. And 103 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.319 did you put one in there that would say like, uh, you know, 104 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:20.439 upload a photo of Slick and then say, give Slick more more hair? 105 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:26.839 Could I could? This probably won't because he's got enough. There's no 106 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.959 need for that to go. Yeah, there's no need to reach back in 107 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.160 time. Yeah, I was always I was sitting here thinking maybe it's a 108 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.920 good thing I came in late today because I'm free to what Justin would or 109 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:40.240 could have said to go. Oh and by the way, this other guy, 110 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:45.519 let me let me describe him. Do you yeah or or Sean? 111 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.079 I mean Sean looks perplexed. H Do you have a favorite pumpkin picture? 112 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:57.360 I like the last pumpkin picture, which you'll be able to see. Yeah, 113 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:01.639 it's awful. Yeah, I mean, it's just it's just the way 114 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.439 they're positioned. Like you can see the one woman's chest is blending into the 115 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.879 arm of the other girl who's wristled click like it's broken in six places. 116 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. It looks like her 117 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.680 hand is completely malformed. She's holding onto a spoon that's mystically floating in the 118 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:24.800 air. The best part about the best part about mid Journey, though, 119 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.759 is you don't necessarily even have to subscribe to use. I mean you don't. 120 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.639 You can't give it your own prompt unless you subscribe, But you can 121 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.799 still join the Discord channel and look at all the different photos that other people 122 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:39.080 have been generating, and it will tell you the prompt that they're using. 123 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.960 So you'll see a prompt of you know, I'm just looking right now at 124 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.080 some random thing. Let's see here. Do you know none of these women 125 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.000 there's bottom teeth. Well, yeah they are, but it's a weird jaw 126 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.039 thing. And it's again it's got to be the AI is having a problem 127 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.759 recreating not only hands. Yeah, but yeah, well there's there's another one 128 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.039 here. There's the prompt. This guy just something, it said. Abstract 129 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:07.039 illustration of a Hispanic woman standing in a pile of spaghetti, and it literally 130 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:13.159 draws an an artwork. It's not photorealistic. It's artwork of a Hispanic woman 131 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:18.759 wrapped in spaghetti like wearing like a spaghetti dress. Would why would somebody come 132 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.879 up with something like that? I don't know, dude. Honestly, we 133 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.519 Internet literally anything you can think of, somebody's drawn it. You know, 134 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.080 we've seen the commercials too. Did you guys see the pizza commercial that was 135 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.799 done with aih's awful. Maybe we could put that was scary. We could 136 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.399 put that in the blog too. So they created they basically told and you 137 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.919 think about this, the artificial intelligence, you tell it create this, and 138 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.960 it created this pizza commercial that had people enjoying pizza that was like melting into 139 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.200 their face and and it was horrific. It was like a scary movie. 140 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.039 But AI is able to do this kind of thing. Now, imagine now 141 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:07.000 if you took this picture justin like the last picture you created with the Asian 142 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.320 woman walking away from the fire, you want to say, why you created 143 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.519 that? I think that's that's actually pretty good. Oh well, yeah, 144 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.879 so I took a picture of it's basically kind of like that Hollywood shot where 145 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:20.720 somebody's walking away from an explosion, right, and they're walking, they're walking 146 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.320 towards the camera, and this happens to be an Asian woman walking away from 147 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.759 an explosion. And my idea behind that was a story was I was trying 148 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.000 to get Eric ready for bed, and I told him, Hey, Eric, 149 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:33.720 it's it's time for bed. Get ready for bed. Well, as 150 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.720 he was starting to get ready, I went upstairs to get his bed ready, 151 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:39.919 and during that time, my wife decided to pull out some like origami 152 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.840 paper or something and start cutting things. And Eric was like, ooh, 153 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.240 I want to try. So I come downstairs and I'm like, what the 154 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.600 heck, dude, I said bedtime? And my wife just goes all right, 155 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.039 I'm gonna go take a shower and just walks off. And so this 156 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.600 represents her starting an explosion of anger when I'm telling my kid to get ready 157 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.240 and she's just walks away. That's perfect, but it actually looks this one 158 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.960 really looks if you were to do on that image and you went back in 159 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.279 time ten years ago, maybe maybe even fifteen years ago, or you couldn't 160 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:13.879 even till you showed that to somebody, they'd be blown away. They'd be 161 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.360 thinking, yeah, you were the greatest photographer in the world. Yeah, 162 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.000 to be able to add after that, and then this last one I just 163 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.759 posted. I literally just did this on mid journey while we were talking. 164 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:31.600 It is Mortal Kombat characters drawn in the art style of Studio Ghibli. Oh 165 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:33.759 wow, that's actually really good as well. Yeah, it's really good. 166 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:39.799 Now, what are your restrictions when you use these? You can't do anything 167 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:46.039 that's pornographic. You can't do anything that shows harm or death. I mean 168 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.639 you can. You can tell it show me a picture of death, and 169 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.279 it will draw like the character of death. Yeah, but you can't say, 170 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.120 show me somebody getting their head cut off or something. They won't do 171 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.399 that, I mean it won't, it won't. Yeah. It has limitations, 172 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.799 and you can appeal like I've I've told it to do things, and 173 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.000 it's like, oh, we've we've blocked your request because we think it's not 174 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.720 right, and I can. You can click a button to appeel it and 175 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.000 it gets sent to a moderator who's a human who will actually review it and 176 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.759 say hmm, nah, I'm not going to allow that, or yeah, 177 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.279 okay, I'll allow that, and then it will generate the image if they 178 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.039 do allow it. So there are restrictions on what you can and cannot generate. 179 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.759 Right, So if somebody wants to do this, what they need to 180 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.279 do is set up a discord their own discord. Well, which is not 181 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.720 that hard to do, right. You can you can get the mid journey 182 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:37.279 bought uh in your discord. I don't personally know how to do it. 183 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.840 I'm actually on So I just went to mid journey dot com and you can 184 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.799 sign up. You can. You can sign up right there and it will 185 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:50.840 tell you everything about how to use it and what it is and uh yeah, 186 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.559 it'll tell you how to join the discord server and I will tell you 187 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:56.320 how to you know, generate images. So I tried to sign up. 188 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:01.639 It took me unownst to me. You'll find out like a second or third 189 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:07.320 screen that you're creating an account on discord right right, And we have it. 190 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.279 We have a tech talk radio account that only I think you know, 191 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.679 only the three of us are on nobody. I don't really get on it 192 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.360 enough, but I need to. I want to because I think there's a 193 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.080 lot of a lot of things we can have some fun with. Well, 194 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.159 you still got to make us admins. You haven't even done that yet. 195 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.399 Yeah, you're an admin. I like it, either you or Sean. 196 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:28.919 Oh no, you're an admin. Sean, you bumped out before I got 197 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:33.240 a chance to do to add you. So I'll make you an admin too, 198 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.600 and then we could have we'd have some fun with this. But to 199 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.080 be able to create this, how long is the process for you to say, 200 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.039 say, the picture with the three guys sitting around the Apple computer, 201 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:48.039 which is funny, that's that's pretty cool. But how long did it take 202 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:54.840 to create that the Huh let's see from the initial prompt. Uh, then 203 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.159 I went through like about seven variations of it to try to find that perfect 204 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.919 one about five minutes. Wow. You know a lot of the companies are 205 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:07.879 really trying to find a way to integrate AI into Topaz is one of those, 206 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:11.480 and I'm going to be taking a look at their Topaz Photo AI. 207 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.120 They also a video AI program which actually can take like something shot in four 208 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.600 eighty and enhance it for seven to twenty. Now, Sean, you know 209 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.960 what that means. I mean, basically, you could take away that that 210 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:28.919 eighties seventies VHS look and give it a crisp feel a crisp look to it. 211 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:33.759 Using their AI, their photo, AI topaz his photo. AI can 212 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.919 actually make stuff a lot sharper looking, which is kind of neat. And 213 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:43.720 Adobe is also doing this, and Sean has already given us a demo with 214 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.279 that with Generative Phil. Have you still been playing around with that, Sean 215 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:50.519 at all? Nope? No, you know. I mean, you guys 216 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.000 are talking about AI and I'm kind of zoning out of here right now. 217 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.360 You AI. I know that AI is going to change the world, and 218 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.320 I need to get on board, but I just can't do it. I 219 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.240 can't get into it. I can't. Well, do you really need to 220 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:07.000 get on board, though? Is it absolutely necessary? I mean so, 221 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:13.159 because it'll come right for my industry. Yes, it will come, but 222 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.440 you need to get in. I work for an industry leader in the broadcast 223 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.919 world, so I have to know it. I have to get on board 224 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.360 because we're already integrating it. We're already integrating stuff, and the biggest part 225 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:31.279 of our job for AI is logging. So somebody doesn't somebody doesn't have to 226 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:37.759 sit down and watch the screen and say player number twenty five yards at three 227 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.279 minutes on the clock. Two outs, one inning whatever. Right, AI 228 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.879 is scraping all that data and just putting it into the metadata. Wow, 229 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:52.320 we're already using all of our highlights for and you know, who knows if 230 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.279 I'm also allowed to say this, right, but it's like the majority of 231 00:15:54.320 --> 00:16:00.720 our our highlights from sports that are being broadcast are done by AI. We 232 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:07.120 feed our game feed into a program, right that then cuts highlights based on 233 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:12.480 parameters that the people program I mean the content, not the program. Yeah, 234 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:18.120 sure, a programmer, but like the content creator for the social media 235 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.120 says all right, I need these style of highlights, and it just shops 236 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.919 it up and spits them out. Wow. So there's nobody sitting there logging 237 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:29.000 and watching the game going all right, Player twenty is to just score a 238 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:34.200 touchdown clip that here's the metadata player name that we're time whether all that stuff, 239 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.879 It just does it. They're also saying right now that that AI is 240 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:42.519 the fastest growing job industry. Yeah out there, I mean there are jobs 241 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:49.120 posted that are offering five hundred thousand dollars per year to program AI. Yep. 242 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:53.759 And there are people that now that maybe you used to be proficient in 243 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:57.759 Excel or word or lotus one two, three, you know, or maybe 244 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:03.000 a type sixty words per Now, honestly, a company is going to look 245 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.720 at you a little better if you say I have experience with AI, whether 246 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.720 it be Chat GPT you know, or the new enterprise Chat GPT which they've 247 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:17.079 just announced, or any of these, any of these AI programs that can 248 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:18.880 actually help you. It used to be you could say I know how to 249 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:23.000 work illustrator. Well, now you need to to be able to to create 250 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:29.640 faster and even maybe even more dynamic using these AI tools, whether you use 251 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:33.079 imagine somebody comes to you and say, yeah, I could create using Correl, 252 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:34.880 which is great. But if they come in and say I could use 253 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.160 Corel, I could use Illustrator, and I can use mid Journey, They're 254 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.559 gonna look at oh mid Journey, oh wow, because they've heard of it. 255 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.720 So it's going to create more of an environment. Especially the kids are 256 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.519 in school now. I don't know if anybody's teaching them this stuff. But 257 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.680 Sean, you're not you're not a big fan of this. No, I 258 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:56.319 didn't say I wasn't a fan. I just I it doesn't fit my work 259 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.359 style, it doesn't fit my vision of technology. It doesn't fit me and 260 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.400 that's not to say it doesn't fit everybody else, But it's just my interpretation 261 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.319 of what technology technology should be and how it impacts our lives is not Ai, 262 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:18.039 it's not. It's to me. And I've talked about this before. 263 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:25.519 We are as a society are dumb. And that's that's just me saying it. 264 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:29.200 Right. We are so ingrained with technology, and our faces are in 265 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:33.000 everything. There is zero creativity, there's zero art outlet, there's and and 266 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:38.519 again people are ingesting content by the so much content all the time. But 267 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:44.200 when is it too much? When does your brain have a time to shut 268 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:48.240 off and process the content you've seen, the content you've read, the content 269 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.799 you've heard, right, the content that you've created. When you draw a 270 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.759 piece of art, you've got to post it. Like I ran into this 271 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.799 with with just my art in general online I had this immense pressure to just 272 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:07.799 produce content because people wanted to see it. Well, I was burned out. 273 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:08.880 I don't want to produce content, but people were like, hey, 274 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.119 you stop posting pictures on the I really like seeing your pictures. Yeah, 275 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:17.279 because there's a saturation limit, right, Well, I mean look at it 276 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:22.279 from a mental capacity, right, And AI is going to this is again, 277 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:29.240 this is me just on a soapbox. AI is stifling the creativity of 278 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:33.000 the human mind. M m yeah, because I don't have to think about 279 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:34.960 anything anymore. I don't have to think about a story prompt, I don't 280 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:37.720 have to think about an image. I can just type show me this and 281 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.880 it's gonna spit it out, whereas before you you have to be creative to 282 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.880 put it all together. Well yeah, I mean, and granted it's it's 283 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.920 it's enabling people that maybe aren't artists to generate art, and that's cool. 284 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:59.640 But to me, that's scary because it's you're not You are disconnecting yourself from 285 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:03.640 the career creative process that makes us human. The marketplace is going to weed 286 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:07.519 that out though, because to me, that's the shotgun approach. You know, 287 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:11.039 you got created content, doesn't mean it's good content, doesn't mean it's 288 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:14.640 targeted content, you know, doesn't does it even mean it's correct content. 289 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.000 It's just content, you know. I kind of wonder. Buddy of mine 290 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:22.000 is a really good photographer. He's great. He takes some great photos, 291 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:26.400 and lately a couple of the photos he's shown me, it's to me, 292 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.559 it's mind blowing where he's gone out on a photo shoot and it hasn't been 293 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:36.200 the best conditions. Sean, you know more than anybody, especially even flying 294 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:40.599 drones. Uh, sometimes the conditions just aren't going to be right. He's 295 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:42.759 junk. That's that's part of that's part of the business, right. But 296 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:48.799 instead, what what a lot of photographers are doing now is they're taking these 297 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.200 photos and they're there. It's they'll fix it in the mix. It's that 298 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.160 old term. It's a you know, it's an old video fix it. 299 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.519 We'll fix it in post. You know, you'll fix it afterwards. And 300 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.279 now they're fixing a lot of it's being done by AI, where they'll suddenly, 301 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.599 well, we don't need that building there, let's take that out. 302 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:10.839 And that building could be wiped using generative phil from Adobe and some of the 303 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.960 other you know, AI tools that are available. It does all of that 304 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.599 because you still have to be careful, especially you look at it the photos 305 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.839 that we have on our blog now of how many fingers do these people have, 306 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.799 how many hands do they have? They're a little the little and I 307 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.759 think, uh, Sean, you've mentioned this word before, uncanny valley. 308 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:33.640 Oh yeah, you're you're going to see that no matter what right. And 309 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.759 it's just becoming more of a thing and people are getting used to it, 310 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:44.160 which is fine, but there's still that unsettling feeling when you look at something 311 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.839 doing yeah, that's been treated by AI. You even said it earlier, 312 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:49.920 Andy, you can tell one of the article is a I written just because 313 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.079 it doesn't feel right? It doesn't Is there going to be what's the new 314 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:57.000 term on canny valley? Is a film term? Is there going to be 315 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:02.599 a that? Is that a blanket term? Now? For that uneasy feeling 316 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.799 about content that AI we get. We get close to about one hundred maybe 317 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:11.720 one hundred and fifty pieces of email every day, pitches stories, uh, 318 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.400 stuff that's, you know, highlighting an event that is happening, whether it 319 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:19.279 be here in southern Arizona or you know around the globe that you know, 320 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:25.079 maybe we won't want to cover. And I've gotten to that point where I 321 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:30.480 reached that uncanny valley when I'm reading an email because I feel that email is 322 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:37.000 using the words that AI would be using, or I just don't feel it's 323 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.119 really a human that's that's typed it, that's that come up with the wording. 324 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.599 For example, we we have used chat GPT. I'm I'm, I 325 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.799 don't mind saying it. I create every and you don't have a very busy 326 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:55.079 schedule. So when we decide to post our show, I always create a 327 00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:59.319 show synopsis, which usually means we do the show. I go back listen 328 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.000 to the show, and as I'm listening to the show, I'm typing up, 329 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:03.480 yeah, okay, well we talked about this, Okay, we talked 330 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.920 about that, we talked about this, we talked about that, and I'll 331 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:11.000 go ahead and I'll i'll, I'll go ahead and write it. And now 332 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:12.839 what I've done is I've took I thought, well, yeah, maybe I 333 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:17.519 can highlight this a little more, and I have put it into chat GPT 334 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.440 and what comes back usually is something like wow, I didn't expect that, 335 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:27.640 where it's this too much, it's like over the top, like this exciting 336 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:33.119 episode of tech Talk Radio, groundbreaking technology, and I feel, no, 337 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:34.880 no, no, that's not what I want. I read that and I'm 338 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.799 like Andy had too much coffee, or that's chet GPT one of the two. 339 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.079 But I noticed something recently in one of those that we had done, 340 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.000 and I thought, okay, I go in and I edit it and I 341 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.880 think that's what you have to do with chat GPT when you're doing an article 342 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.119 or a story, edit it. If you want to help it, help 343 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.720 you guide along, Fine, go in and edit it. But I miss 344 00:23:53.799 --> 00:24:00.519 something. I noticed that justin on his name it was was crylic So the 345 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:08.400 jay was done by Chad GPT in this different type of j My jays were 346 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:12.359 all perfect, but the AI that I didn't Okay, i'll let that go. 347 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.359 I'll let that go. It was all so you really you can't rely 348 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:22.079 one hundred percent on it. It still needs that human interaction. Now will 349 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.640 it be will you know the enterprise edition fix that? Will there be further 350 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:30.839 renditions? Will there be Chad GPT five that will fix some of that? 351 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.960 I don't. I don't know. And that's that's where it starts getting a 352 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.920 little scary, like skynet like you talked about the other day. So you 353 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.160 mentioned, you know that you mentioned the Gmail part of it or email part 354 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.599 of it. August twenty ninth, Google launched its due at ai for Google 355 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:51.640 Workspace. Ah, now what's that gonna be? And he must have well, 356 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:53.200 no, I was also gonna mention because you just mentioned skynet. I 357 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.160 was about to say, as of the recording August twenty ninth, which is 358 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.200 today. Today is the day that Skynet becomes self aware in the movie. 359 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:06.119 Oh oh that's right. Yeah, that's what I've been trying to say. 360 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:07.920 I've been trying to jump that in there, like hey, happy happy skuy 361 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.440 not becoming self aware to Yeah, that's right. For Terminator fans, I 362 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:18.960 annoyed. Are they making another Terminator movie? Yea, I swear I saw 363 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.160 it. See that's the thing with AI. You don't know anymore. I 364 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.720 saw an ad on YouTube and it said it had John Cena in it. 365 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.519 It had Schwartzenegger in it, and I thought, okay, I thought he 366 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.799 was done with this. So how do you know if it's real or not? 367 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:36.640 Well, you guess they can do it with AI. I mean, 368 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:38.039 look at this picture I'm posting in chower here. We can post this to 369 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.680 this. This picture just got generated. This. There's a really fun Facebook 370 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.440 group that I'm on actually called Cursed AI, and it's just pictures of things. 371 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:51.480 This is Tupac. Tupac going to the beach to enjoying going to the 372 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:53.720 beach to enjoy ice cream. That is not AI's well, I mean it 373 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.839 does, but not well, I mean a little bit maybe ice cream is 374 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:04.359 yeah, yeah, like but yeah that looks wrong, but yeah it does, 375 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.839 it does. But I'm just saying like, this is this is what 376 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:11.960 a I can generate. If you're on Facebook, go look up Cursed AI 377 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.920 and join it. It's funny. It's just funny because it's got some crazy 378 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.119 photos on it. All right, listen, we gotta take a break. 379 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:19.720 We come back. We've got something very cool. Now, a lot of 380 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.680 us are familiar with leap pad, leap frog. Well, we have got 381 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:27.920 the creator, the guy who came up with it all, Jim Margraff. 382 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.839 We're going to talk with Jim and find out about leap pad, what could 383 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:36.559 be the future of that type of entertainment and educational experience for our kids. 384 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:40.960 With more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, 385 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.359 and I'm Justin. Find us on the internet at tech talk radio dot 386 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.480 com. We'll be right back now back to tech talk Radio. So, 387 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:55.119 like many of you, I'm a grandparent, actually i'm a great grandparent. 388 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:57.920 And one of the things is with our you know, grandkids and great grandkids 389 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:00.920 kind of scattered all over the nation, is keeping in touch with them, 390 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:06.319 and I'll be honest with you. Technology has made it a lot easier, 391 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.920 but when it comes to child development, we've seen that before we could ever 392 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.200 think about connecting with them remotely. We are honored to have with us the 393 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.519 inventor of the leap pad, Jim Margraf, standing by with us on the 394 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:23.640 line to tell us a little bit about engaging with grandkids remotely and some of 395 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:29.240 the many different ways that it is possible. Jim also has just recently started 396 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:33.279 another new company called Canoe with the Canoe Magic wand some great stuff, so 397 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:34.839 we'll tell you about that as well. Jim, thank you so much for 398 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.160 coming on tech Talk Radio, Andie thanks good peace to be here with you 399 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:44.119 today. Thank you tell us how did you get involved in, you know, 400 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.519 getting leap pad off the ground and you know, really making this work. 401 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.480 What was the you know, what was the desire here? Well? 402 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.480 Thanks, thanks, It goes back quite a while. It was actually it 403 00:27:55.519 --> 00:28:00.640 was actually twenty three years ago, wow, that I had the idea for 404 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.400 the LeapPad. My kids were two and four, had a boy and girl 405 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.039 was watching the learned to Read and I observed as these black squiggly marks on 406 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.559 a page and thought if we could give more direct access to be able to 407 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.160 allow them to look at a book and know that those little squiggles had names, 408 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.000 and those names of these squiggles had sounds, and if you put them 409 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.480 together, you meet words. I thought that we could create a breakthrough in 410 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.319 reading, and lo and Beholds created this idea of something I called paper based 411 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.559 multimedia, built it and we put books in a cradle, as you know, 412 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.160 with a leap pattern. Within five years we helped roughly one hundred million 413 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.200 kids learned to Wow. Amazing, it was just it was very It was 414 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.720 very gratifying. Made it so much easier too for parents as well to have 415 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.839 to always have that content in front of kids so that they're learning, not 416 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.079 just sitting in front of the television. You know. And now, of 417 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.200 course we think about the computer, but it gives them that ability to use 418 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.440 technology to continue to learn. Now, when it comes to people like myself 419 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.720 that have grandkids and we want to stay engaged with them, the new technology 420 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.319 in our modern world gives us that opportunity when they live far away. But 421 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.799 some grandparents are a little timid about that. What really advice could you give 422 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.839 them to extend that and keep in touch with them. The challenge is is 423 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:18.839 communicated with your grandkids in a way that is interesting and relevant to them and 424 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.960 also understanding the ages and stages of the needs, the style of communication, 425 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.839 the learning interests the kids have at different ages. So here here's a challenge. 426 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.240 Do you think he's a grandparent. You've got a four year old maybe 427 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.599 you're a you're a grandmother and you've got a four year old grandson named Johnny. 428 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.559 And we call this the Johnny problem. And Grandma gets on FaceTime with 429 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:45.640 Johnny and says, hey, Johnny, how are you good at nothing? 430 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.839 And nothing? And Johnny, you know, he just at that point he's 431 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.119 not interested in turning this year. He runs off these four and Mom chases 432 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.079 after him with a smartphone. Johnny talk to Grammy, and Grammy is sitting 433 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.240 on the on the FaceTime colling. She's feeling bad. She doesn't know what 434 00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.480 to say. She knows he's not interest. It's did and and you know, 435 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.599 as that time extends, month after month and they try to have the 436 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.079 calls, they don't really connect. So when eventually they do get together, 437 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:11.839 more than half of grandparents or five hundred miles or so from their grandkids. 438 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.480 So it's a big problem in this country. And the Johnny problem happens every 439 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.680 day every day. Yeah, so you know you can say, so what 440 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.279 do you do? So think about what what does the grandparent need and what 441 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.319 does a grandchild want. Grandchild wants to do something fun. They like playing 442 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.000 games, they like moving their bodies. That's what they and they're in the 443 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.519 moment all the time. They're not thinking ahead. They haven't developed executive function 444 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.720 to look at and you know that part of the brain's not really developed. 445 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.880 So grandparent wants to engage them. So one you could put a game into 446 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.920 the video chat. So if you do that, put a game like TikTok 447 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.359 Tour Checkers in. When you do that, what happens is they play the 448 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.920 game, but they're not really bombing and connecting. But there is time together. 449 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.799 But pretty much the child puts their head down, they focus on the 450 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.119 screen that the grandparent looks at the top of the child's head depending on where 451 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:02.160 the camera is. It's okay, but we could do much better. So 452 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.920 the next step is said, Okay, let's find a way to allow both 453 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.480 to be a guided a bit. So we dropped a character into video chat 454 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:15.519 a cartoon, a retro classic two dimensional cartoon finstones Luck character, so we 455 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.240 put that there the talks to both of them. The next thing we did 456 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.559 is we created games. We'll call it bespoke games designed to bond and connect 457 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.720 nice. Once you have that, now you've got games like you're making a 458 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.039 cake together, you're fishing and grandpa puts a fish on the hook and a 459 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.319 child catches it. Where you're building a puzzle together, where you have to 460 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:37.680 collaborate the way we design it, so it's collaboration, creativity and and the 461 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.559 next piece that was key for us, and this is this is has moved 462 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.920 the whole company rather plane, which is we put a wand a four inch 463 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.759 wond about two houses in the hand of a child's got three bright colored orbs 464 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.279 to change colors, and it responds to the child's movement, and the wand 465 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:59.039 becomes an augmented reality tool on the screen. In the video chat with the 466 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.519 grand parent, you might say, you may think a cake together, and 467 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.880 the grandparent on the screen is the ingredient or the ingredients shown on a shelf, 468 00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.680 and the grandparent drags an egg over and the grandchild takes their wand and 469 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:14.000 they crack the egg by moving it in air, and they see a knife 470 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.000 come down and it cracks the egg. And then the grandparent will pull up 471 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.279 a box of flour a bag of flower over, and the grandchild will pour 472 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.079 the wand the pour the flower by tilting their wand and it'll pour into the 473 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:29.279 bucket. Then it becomes a whisk and then they'll whisk it up and scoop 474 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:30.039 it out and put it on a tray, put it in the oven. 475 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.400 Or I'll go fishing, and Grandpa will see the fish swimming by, and 476 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.640 Johnny ARSUSI can't really see them. It blurt out, and he moves his 477 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.599 finger and puts a fish on the hook. And Johnny here, Susie takes 478 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.559 the wand and pulls it back in the air and catches the fish and pulls 479 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:46.880 it out if it does. Are dance and sings a song and teaches something. 480 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:52.039 So what you're doing is you're you're having that bond doing stuff together where 481 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.200 And it's not like Grandma or Grandpa is over there doing their thing on the 482 00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:01.319 screen and the child sees it related to their screen. They're actually watching each 483 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:06.599 other, communicating with each other and using that wand to have some fun and 484 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:12.480 kind of move the play along. That's right, and it's designed for I 485 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.039 mean, our mission is to create the best possible future for kids their families 486 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.240 in the world through connection, play, and learning. And those three works 487 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:24.759 are so important because we polled grandparents for quite some time as I was getting 488 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.200 this company started in twenty twenty, and what they wanted, we heard it 489 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.519 get in when they want connection, They want to play with their grandkids, 490 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:37.279 and it'd be nice if they'd learn something hotagogically perhaps or something they teach them. 491 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.160 Now we started this and then we heard from parents once we did some 492 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.480 testing on this got it out. Parents want those three things, but in 493 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.519 exactly the reverse order. The first thing they want is learning. They want 494 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.359 to see that that child is getting ready for school. It's going to be 495 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.440 ready for kindergarten, is hopefully can spell the name and maybe knows the you 496 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.480 know, the alphabims and sounds. Next is play and the third ist connection. 497 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.279 So now it's learning, play and connection. So what we did we 498 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.320 took this idea and said, okay, we got this wand what could we 499 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.920 do with the wand to support the parents' needs. So immediately out of the 500 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.480 box, and the child child takes this wand out holds it in her hand, 501 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.239 they turn it on and when they push the button, the parent immediately 502 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.000 sees that child engaged on the spot without any connection, and he set up 503 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:27.039 just immediately with the wand learning. I said, well, I know something 504 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:31.039 about learning. So here's the question. And for you and listeners, if 505 00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.760 I were to give a child one thing and they were to take this and 506 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.320 engage with it, and you saw the four year old doing this, you 507 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.159 would say, oh, that child is learning. What physical thing could I 508 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.199 put in that child's hand? It will cause you to say, oh, 509 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.039 definitively that child is learning, and make you feel good about it. Oh 510 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.119 wow, what would it be? So it'd be And when I say it 511 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:57.599 a book. If you give a child a book and they open it and 512 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.679 they start looking through the pages, and a childish age picture books, you 513 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.800 know, pictures, words, object association, they're flipping through it. If 514 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.199 you've looked over if you walk into the house, is a little kid sitting 515 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:08.360 down with a book in their lap and they're flipping through it, you want 516 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:12.480 to go, child's learning something. Whereas if you see them with a tablet, 517 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.960 you're going to go hmm, I wonder what they're doing and maybe, 518 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.199 look, they're good games on tablets, but a book doesn't. It doesn't 519 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.119 offer the distraction that a tablet has in their screen time limits by the American 520 00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:29.519 Academy of Pediatrics. So there's a realization that books are really good and physical 521 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.599 books are on the increase for parents. Jondren's picture books are selling more now 522 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.199 than they did years ago. The sales are turning up. So back to 523 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.760 the original question, back to what a parent wants. They want learning, 524 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:45.320 play and connection with grandparent. So what we're doing now is we're evolving the 525 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:52.360 wand to support the ability to well, here's an analogy. Think of it 526 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.920 as you know a Nintendo we we okay, think of now a Wei for 527 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:04.840 books merged with a leap pad. Oh so handheld device yep, with colored 528 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.719 ords on it and response to your motion. And when you hold this band 529 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.440 and you take a book. In fact, if you download software into it, 530 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.440 we'll have a library software for books. Nowload your favorite book into it. 531 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.960 You can take that book off your bookshelf if you already own it, 532 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.000 use your wand and your wall will read the book to the child and let 533 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:28.000 them interact with it, just like a LeapPad did, but much more because 534 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.559 it will respond now not just to the child deep being able to interact with 535 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.960 it with words and pictures and the games that we did with what I called 536 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.599 paper Base multimedia, right, but also the one will respond to the child's 537 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:44.119 movement. So, for instance, now just with this book, that child 538 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.960 could be oh, they could be driving a car, and as they move 539 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.719 their wand like they're driving a car, they'll hear the sounds of the roaring 540 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.440 engine in the drive. Or they could reach up and grab a seatbelt, 541 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.679 click and move it down to wand you click down to their side, and 542 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.079 they'll do the seatbelt, plug it and dip in a paint bucket and they'll 543 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.280 hear the slashing paint and move it back and forth and paint a doom buppy 544 00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.920 sitting on the moon, and then maybe climb up into a rocket, wave 545 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.599 it around and hear the rocket tape office they wave it over their head. 546 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.079 So the canoe Magic Wand is really kind of a gateway to progressing that learning, 547 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:21.679 whether it be turning a page, driving a car, counting showing where 548 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.519 a place is on a map when it comes to somewhere and then you get 549 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.079 to see more of that country, whether it be Italy or the United States, 550 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.119 or Canada or Britain. So what families basically would have is like a 551 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:37.960 magic wand that could give them unlimited, really different scenarios depending on the book, 552 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.159 for them to enjoy and share with each other. Love it, That's 553 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.599 it. It's a magic wand that works with books, works with magazines and 554 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.079 books. We also have done a partnership with Highlights Magazine. Oh I love 555 00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.679 it. We will be bringing Highlights magazines to life, so hidden pictures. 556 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:57.079 I'm looking right now at a hidden picture in a Highlights magazine and issue we've 557 00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.159 done and this will be coming out this fall, by the way, So 558 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:04.000 the new Magic wand On will be released supporting books and magazines. This this 559 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.840 spread is called My first Hidden Pictures on the Moon, beautiful artwork from Highlights, 560 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:12.880 and there's a picture of a dog holding a moon rock and uh and 561 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.000 and a rooster connected to a spaceship floating upside down. We've made this come 562 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:20.960 to life of the wand so you do exactly that. You'll paint the dune 563 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.760 bungy, you'll sip the tea, and you'll you'll throw the baseball into space 564 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.679 while you're looking at the pictures and then flip over to a story and have 565 00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.719 the story be read to you and uh and listen to it and interact as 566 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.920 it's reading with pictures and with what you're here. I want our listeners to 567 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.320 take a look at the website Canoe dot com. That's K I N O 568 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:44.599 O dot com and you'll see and I totally see your vision. Now you're 569 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.800 reading a book. And to give you an example, there there is a 570 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.800 page there the wipers on the bush go Swiss, Swiss Swish, and it 571 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.559 shows you this is the movement you would make. So the kids understand. 572 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.239 The child understands Swiss Whish, Swiss left to right, and they get that, 573 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:00.599 they get the movement. They do that and then they go to the 574 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.239 next one. So it's really really well put together. I got to tell 575 00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.880 you, thank you, thank you Andie so much. It's what you're seeing 576 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.679 there, by the way, is a precursor to what will be coming out 577 00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:15.599 this fall. So this this magic wand with the reading capability will be available 578 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.599 this fall. And right now you can go online and you can down out 579 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.960 our app on the apps to the iOS app Store and you can connect with 580 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.880 the grandparent for free up to an hour a month. So that's already working. 581 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:30.719 That's available. It's the Canoe app on the on the Apple App Store 582 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.800 pre iOS device. Yeah wow. But the wand the wands, this this 583 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.280 capability of the reading wand will be coming out this fall, and we're very 584 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.559 excited. I mean just it's as they said, it's it's the Wei for 585 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.719 books meets a leap pad and uh and in a new generation of technology with 586 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.400 AI coming into it as well. But I'll reserve talking about that until maybe 587 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:58.000 we speak later this year. We definitely will definitely and as you said, 588 00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.519 at the fall, we're going to see more of this. But our listeners 589 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.079 can certainly benefit now by going to new dot com ki Noo dot com and 590 00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.559 get all the info they'd eat there about this. This has got to be 591 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:14.519 pretty exciting to see this because especially when you see a child and a grandparent 592 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.199 communicating and doing doing this type of interaction, that's got to be fulfilling. 593 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.880 It is it is. I mean, my kids are they're both engaged at 594 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.559 this point. So I don't have grandkids. They're twenty to thirty. But 595 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.440 my fingers are crossed. But I'll see you Know what I really like, 596 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.719 Andy is was when I started the work on the leak pad, I did 597 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.880 deep dive researchers, I mean fascinating with education. I went to MIT and 598 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:43.199 computer science steadily, but studied education as well. And now I'm stepping in 599 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:47.199 deep brain science because the discoveries that have been made in the last decade that 600 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:52.440 show the visual word form area of the brain and your left hemisphere which is 601 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.360 always in the same place for everybody, cross cultures, and understanding some of 602 00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.480 the theories we have about learning that are actually evolving because now we can look 603 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.920 at what's going on in the brain. So this this this interaction, these 604 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:08.000 interactions and the learning that we're presenting for reading and more are all brain based. 605 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:12.599 So I'd love to say, if you want your kids IQ to climb 606 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.800 and you want a smart kid, come on back this fall because we're really 607 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:23.119 creating some amazing experiences that we are committed to to supporting UH education and reading 608 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.639 and learning. It's great stuff. We will talk again in the fall. 609 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.639 Canoe dot com, k I n Oo dot com. Jim I got to 610 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.519 say it has been a privilege and an honor to speak to you an innovator, 611 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.119 because I mean, let's face it, you know, my kids have 612 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.920 used the LeapPad products over the years, and I will say they have learned 613 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.559 from them and have made them more engaged, and I am just so glad 614 00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.119 it was there. Well, thank you, I really appreciate that, and 615 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:52.599 we hope to help another generation of kids realize their best possible future. Thank 616 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:53.440 you, sir. We're going to take a break. We'll be back with 617 00:41:53.599 --> 00:42:00.280 more of tech Talk Radio and back to tech Talk Radio with a lot more 618 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:05.519 of us wanting to automate our homes and wanting to have all the greatness that 619 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:07.800 technology offers us. You know, we don't want to have security cameras. 620 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:15.079 And a recent report that was released. Daniel Marketson from VPN put out an 621 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:20.239 article all about how your security camera might be streaming your life online. And 622 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:25.639 Adriana's Warmerhoven is a cybersecurity advisor over at nord VPN. It joins us on 623 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.760 Tech Talk Radio. Adriannas, thank you so much for coming on the show. 624 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:34.079 Thank you having me tell us why this is so concerning to many that 625 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.760 we're seeing more and more people wanting to get cameras in their homes, but 626 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.239 yet there are some things to think about before they set them up. Well, 627 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:46.360 it's mostly a trade off on usability or convenience. Most people want to 628 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:51.039 buy something in store and then have a plug and play when they come home, 629 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.960 and within a couple of minutes there will have some results on the mobile 630 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:58.920 phone see in the camera pictures. But the problem is that cameras need to 631 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:04.480 do some really broad configurations of your router because everybody's home is different, everybody's 632 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.960 network is different, so they can only do some really generic configuration, which 633 00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:13.760 usually means opening up your network and your camera directly to the whole of the 634 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.000 Internet. Now with that, that means then you have people that could actually 635 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.960 get into your system. But then we think, okay, you know, 636 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.679 we're protected. We have passwords that we set up within our home, or 637 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:30.679 passwords maybe to access these security cameras. That isn't entirely true. When it 638 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.719 comes to security, that means it's safe. Correct. Again, this disconvenience 639 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.480 part. Most of these apps. During the setup, they kind of forego 640 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:45.119 the whole past or thing because it gives you a really quicker sense of achievement. 641 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.000 Just plug it in and immediately see it. There sometimes is an option 642 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.800 to put on a password later on, but most people never see that option 643 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.119 because well, they see the camera, are happy and do something else. 644 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:02.719 We're talking with Adriana's warm having a cybersecurity advisor at nord VPN based in the 645 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:09.039 nevolence with products and services available around the world for your digital identity and passwords, 646 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:13.480 and when it comes to the dark web, that can be a scary 647 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.719 place. But what you will find on the dark web in many cases is 648 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:22.320 passwords. People. Even after people have set up passwords, they feel that 649 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.920 they're safe because maybe they've gone with you know, an eight character, twelve 650 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.119 character, sixteen and even more password string and the next thing you know, 651 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:35.920 their info is out there on the web. Nord VPN and their story that 652 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.000 Daniel put together actually tell a little bit about one of those sites. Yes, 653 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:45.320 although there's actually quite a lot of those sites. And if you look 654 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.480 at dark web, everything is being sold re sold. In my presentations, 655 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:53.559 I usually mention it the criminals use everything but the soul. That means that 656 00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.360 you will be the sected. Your pastors will be sold, your credentials, 657 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.639 information, your cameras, your pictures, anything that can be solved will be 658 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:09.400 packaged and result wholesale, and some people wonder that's why they get the phone 659 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:15.599 calls from people doing mortgages and doing everything, especially if they've just gone through 660 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.440 that, because that's how it's sold. It's the data's bought cheap. For 661 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:23.199 our listeners who don't know what nord VPN is, adrianas, can you tell 662 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:30.039 us a little bit about the company. Yes, North VPN is a virtual 663 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:36.119 private network company. It has more security produces. I'll said something about that 664 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.559 in a minute, but it started out as doing a virtual private network over 665 00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:44.079 the Internet. What it means is that from my own computer, I have 666 00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:50.360 this secured, armored tunnel to one of north VPN servers and from then on 667 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.639 all the requests to the Internet are being made. So it means that the 668 00:45:52.679 --> 00:46:00.719 recipient websites or email or whatever I'm doing will only see the addresses of the 669 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:06.599 north VPN sites. So if they want to attack that IP address your address 670 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.119 you need to be on the Internet, they will only attack the North VPN 671 00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:16.280 servers. And the other benefit for a VPN is if you are at the 672 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.960 public Wi Fi, nobody can see to which side you are going. Many 673 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:25.760 people sometimes say TLS like the web encryption is enough it is, but an 674 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.360 attacker will still see that you're going to let's say Chase Manhattan Bank, and 675 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:35.960 then they can send you fishing mills for that specific bank because that information is 676 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.480 not encrypted, even if you have an encrypted connection to your bank. So 677 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:44.840 a VPN will also protect you from those kinds of attacks. The problem is 678 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:49.960 with these cameras is that VPN will not necessarily protect you. But one of 679 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:54.480 the other products we have, like the Mesh feature, which means that equipment 680 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:59.039 within your own network you can reach from your phone in a secure manner, 681 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.719 which that on within your NORTHVPN, you don't have to give your camera access 682 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.719 to the Internet and nobody from the Internet could see it. This is going 683 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:09.480 to be very important when it comes to baby monitors. A lot of people 684 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:15.360 have been concerned with those and the connections, and we've heard stories and this 685 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.960 is almost like an ad hoc connection between your smartphone and that device, and 686 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.679 NORD makes that possible. Yes, that's correct, and this is the Mesh 687 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:30.679 feature in the NORTHVPN. You have a North VPN running within your home and 688 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.199 then whenever you're outside of your home, you just enable the Mesh feature on 689 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:38.840 your mobile phone. It makes a secure connection with your home network without opening 690 00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:44.159 up the network to anybody else. Is it easy for the general user? 691 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.000 We have listeners that maybe are somewhat into tech. Is it easy for them 692 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:54.400 to set up? Absolutely? There's a lot of time spent at North about 693 00:47:54.519 --> 00:48:00.920 user experience. And also we test this with a lot of our customers and 694 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:06.039 get a lot of customer feedback. And that means that just with a few 695 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.360 clicks you have and enabled it. We take care and not with all the 696 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:14.360 defaults, with all the routing, with all the configuration, you don't have 697 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.800 to be technical at all. Now, would this also be smart? In 698 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:20.760 the United States? It's tax season, a lot of people going to be 699 00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.960 filing their taxes, connecting to their banks, getting their W two's and whatnot. 700 00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:30.199 Is it important to have a VPN on the home so that when they're 701 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.920 dialing out and they're connecting I said, dialing boy, I'm old school, 702 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:39.920 But when they're connecting to somewhere that they have again that NORD VPN handling the 703 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:45.320 transmitting of data and receiving of it. Actually yes, not specifically because of 704 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:52.119 the encryption and armoring. But now we talked about cameras, but there will 705 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.119 be a lot more devices in your home, all of these plug and play 706 00:48:54.159 --> 00:49:00.559 smart home devices that will open up ports or actually gates inside your fireball or 707 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.639 router to your home network. And if your home address is being exposed to 708 00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.519 anybody who's listening, they can scan your home IP address and they will find 709 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:13.239 those holes, so they could come in through your vacuum cleaner, your almost 710 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.320 vacuum cleaner, or your smart door bell or anything actually that that has some 711 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:21.559 connection to the internet. Yeah, we just bought a fridge and it has 712 00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.320 Wi Fi. I don't know why, but it does either way. I 713 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.960 just say that's just something else story about. Obviously. NordVPN is a great, 714 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.159 great way to go. How do our listeners get this product? Do 715 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:37.000 they just go to NordVPN dot com. Yes, that's all they need and 716 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.400 everything is being explained there. We have lots of tutorials on there, but 717 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.960 also some explanations on what the VPN does if you want to just look at 718 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.440 it in more detail. All the other features like password manage, they're also 719 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.199 free with the Nord VPN, so you can use those as well. It's 720 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.880 a comprehensive suite you get together with your VPN package, so you have like 721 00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.039 a security suite for somebody to be able to use. There's even things like 722 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:07.119 threat protection where we do it at blocking and tracker checking, so even your 723 00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:12.440 browser is getting some benefit out of that. A lot of tracking online with 724 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:20.559 cookies, we help with that, and there's some rudimentary mulware defense as well, 725 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.119 So very good. That's great stuff. Arenas, thank you so much 726 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:28.280 for coming on the show and telling us a little bit about nord vps and 727 00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.280 some things to think about when we're hooking up those home security cameras trying to 728 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.519 stay warm there. Will you? Thank you, take care. We'll be 729 00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.480 back with more of tech Talk Radio, and now back to tech talk Radio. 730 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.840 Hey, this is Detrich Bader for Batman and you're listening to TIK Talk 731 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.440 Radio. I can't remember my password all right, Well, it is the 732 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.920 same password you have for all your stuff. Then she made me change it. 733 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:52.599 Why would you do that? I heard you that you have to change 734 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:57.000 it every three hours. Then I had to change it again because it wanted 735 00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.519 a capital letter, and then again because it wanted an Then it called me 736 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:07.559 a week and I just walked away. Welcome back to tech Talk Radio. 737 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.679 I am Andy Taylor. I want to thank you for tuning into the show. 738 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.920 As a reminder, you can check us out at tech talk radio dot 739 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.599 com. You can also sign up for our speaker and subscribe to that Absolutely 740 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.679 free Zing goes with iTunes. You find us on iTunes and of course Google 741 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.360 Play as well. Sign up, subscribe and never miss a show. Got 742 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.440 some great things gonna be coming up. One of the fun things that we 743 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.880 like to do on the show is find a website of the week, a 744 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.280 website that is a little different. Sometimes it's tech, sometimes it's entertainment. 745 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:44.519 Sometimes it's just playing goofiness. And I have a feeling that today's runs under 746 00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:49.679 the guise of being a little goofy. It had me chuckling. It's a 747 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.559 site that has been put together by the folks over at Studio Moniker Now. 748 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:59.559 You'll find them at Studio Moniker that's m O N i k e r. 749 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:06.039 Now. They're an Amsterdam based interactive design company. And what they've done they've 750 00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:10.800 put together this pointer pointer site. It's an experiment and pointer retrieval. So 751 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:17.239 imagine you have a photo and in the photo somebody is pointing for some reason, 752 00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.519 you come up to you go to their site, you come up to 753 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.800 a black screen and you just move your your pointer, your mouse pointer, 754 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.920 and just leave your cursor there. It will come up with a photo in 755 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:34.280 its database of photos that specifically ties to that pointer to somebody pointing at you 756 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.679 or at the screen. It's kind of goofy again. That's all it is. 757 00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.199 Just move your pointer, leave it there. It finds the pointer, 758 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:49.960 finds the location, and it will tie that finger whoever's pointing to your mouse 759 00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.320 cursor. And it sounds silly, but you got to check it out for 760 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.920 yourself pointer pointer dot com. That's it for this week's show. Next week 761 00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.360 we'll have some special guests. We'll talk more about Outlet and some other cool 762 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.320 things when it comes to technology. If you have a question for us, 763 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.519 please feel free to reach out to us. You can send an email tech 764 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:12.440 Guys at tech talk radio dot com. You can also visit our website visit 765 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.159 the contact page and send us your question or comment as well. We may 766 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.840 even read it on the air in the meantime. Have yourselves a great week 767 00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.239 for tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor. Thanks for tuning in.