WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:26.239 If I am six forty years later with mo Kelly, We're live everywhere on 2 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:33.399 the iHeartRadio app. Another day, another Metro stabbing. At what point do 3 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:40.359 we become numb to the idea of someone being harmed on MTA. I think 4 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:49.119 I stopped actually emotionally responding about a month ago. I actually expect to open 5 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:54.280 up the news, open up my browser, go to maybe KTLA dot com, 6 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:59.439 Kcal dot com, La Times dot com, and I expect the top 7 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:07.040 story to be someone being harmed on Metro because more often than not that's the 8 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.719 case. And he probably heard during the news break the report by Chris Adler 9 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.239 talking about a person being stabbed, and it's one of those stories. Is 10 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.000 still kind of confusing. There's some mix up as far as whether this was 11 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:25.480 a stabbing on a Metro bus or was it on a bus stop, or 12 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:29.200 was it on the bus and it then spilled over to the bus stop. 13 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:34.159 But someone got stabbed on a bus, near a bus, around a bus 14 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:38.359 or at a bus stop, and that's according to the La County Sheriff's Department. 15 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:42.280 I say that there's some confusion because I like the details. I like 16 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:49.159 to be exact, I like to be as correct as possible. The Sheriff's 17 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:56.319 department told KTLA the attack occurred at a bus stop. LA County Supervisor Janis 18 00:01:56.359 --> 00:02:00.959 Hahn released a statement saying the victor was stabbed by another passer while on the 19 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:06.079 bus. It's kind of a big deal the difference, because for me, 20 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:09.280 someone getting stabbed at a random bus stop, that for me, is not 21 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:13.879 the same in the big picture, in the larger scheme of things, It's 22 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.439 not the same thing as someone stabbing someone else on a bus. Because if 23 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:21.479 you've ever ridden a bus, and I have, and I'm pretty sure Twala 24 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:25.280 Sharp has. I'm not so sure about Mark Ronner. No, I haven't 25 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:30.240 written one since I got to LA. So that's like in the six year 26 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:34.639 territory and nope, and it's not looking real likely at this rate either. 27 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.520 What will give you that impression? What out there is souring you on the 28 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:44.199 idea the fact that I am mortal and only made of flesh and blood. 29 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:49.439 Oh okay, Well, you may have noticed, whether you've ridden a bus 30 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.879 out here or not, that most bus stops really don't provide any type of 31 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.360 protection. Protection. They're not managed per se by Metro. I'm not going 32 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.919 to hold Metro responsible for every bus stop in La because, if you know, 33 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:07.199 most bus stops are just a bench or just a sign near a corner 34 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.719 on the street. Yeah, I've been at the bus stop where it's it's 35 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:13.879 just a sign the bus is going to stop at the corner. I don't 36 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:17.719 know that makes Metro inherently more dangerous. That's why I want to be specific. 37 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:23.680 I want to be precise as to whether this happened on the bus where 38 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:27.479 there were two passengers and one stabbed the other, or whether it was something 39 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:30.360 that started on the bus and it spilled over onto the sidewalk, Whether someone 40 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:35.280 was just on the sidewalk standing next to a sign that said Metro waiting for 41 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.759 a bus and got stabbed. I don't know, but La County Shriff's Department 42 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:44.680 they're saying it was on the bus for whatever reason. Supervisor Han, who's 43 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:49.520 also the vice chair of the Metro Board of Directors, said otherwise. Quote 44 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.439 this is her statement. Quote. This attack today on a Metro bus in 45 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.400 Lynnwood is horrific and yet another grim reason that we need a surge of law 46 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.919 enforcement on our trans system. People who rely on Metro every day need to 47 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:08.759 know they can take our buses and train safely. I appreciate our Sheriff's deputies 48 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:13.520 who responded to the scene quickly and have detained a person of interest. Thankfully. 49 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.399 I am told that the victims juries are not life threatening. I am 50 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.240 praying for their quick recovery, and I'm so sorry that they had to endure 51 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:25.399 this close quote. But here's another question I have, and I'm just thinking 52 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:31.959 out loud. I personally wonder what the real tipping point is. Everyone at 53 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:39.920 this point acknowledges the status quo, and that status quo is unsustainable. Just 54 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:44.839 about all the public officials agree on this. We agree that Metro is unsafe. 55 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:46.680 Even the mayor, the chair of the Board of director said Metro is 56 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.600 unsafe. We're all here, We're all at the same party. But what 57 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:57.399 is the real tipping point? What makes an immediate change? What would be 58 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.319 too far? In other words, where you'd have to do something immediately, 59 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:06.680 What would make La County move heaven and earth to make a significant change, 60 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:12.720 Because we haven't yet, don't think that. Because Mayor Bass said she's gonna 61 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:16.639 add another fifty additional officers spread across all of MTA, that is either major, 62 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.959 that is either significant or is going to make any type of indelible mark. 63 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:25.000 No, it's not going to do any of that. I don't know 64 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:30.000 what the tipping point is. Is it five more stabbings, is it four 65 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.279 shootings? Is it three muggings? Maybe two more crashes with cars? I 66 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.079 don't know. A partridge in a pear tree. I don't know what would 67 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:41.279 do the trick. But I know that even though we may have violence on 68 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:48.600 the metro system every single day, we have a stabbing, seemingly the math 69 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:56.600 is getting close to every other day, nothing has changed. And we may 70 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.959 hear about, well, we can't do anything until a fiscal year twenty twenty 71 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:05.639 four is over or July first of this year. We hear that, but 72 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:14.160 nothing significantly has changed. We've heard promises about more law enforcement, a surge 73 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:18.800 and presence of law enforcement on trainings, on buses, on platforms. We've 74 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:25.079 heard that, but we've not seen that. And I know people in Los 75 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:30.120 Angeles County haven't felt that. So what is the tipping point? Do you 76 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.399 need? Like a mass casualty event? And I'm not trying to be funny, 77 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:40.279 I'm being very serious because the crime is not only continuing, I would 78 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:46.000 say it is escalating. And if the crime is escalating, and our response 79 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:48.920 is not commensurate with that, it's not keeping up with that, it's not 80 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:56.079 consistent with that. Then we are falling further and further behind in addressing it. 81 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.120 Because as sure as I'm sitting here, and as sure as you're listening 82 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.600 in your car, or maybe you're at the gym, or maybe you're sitting 83 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:05.920 around the table with your family having dinner, as sure as we're all having 84 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:13.920 this moment together, that there will be some other violence connected to Metro probably 85 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.079 before the end of the week. Are we just going to stay here and 86 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:20.079 assume that we're not going to do anything and just allow it to happen and 87 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:25.519 then issue another statement saying, oh my goodness, this is so horrible, 88 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:29.519 this is so terrible, this can't continue. Or are we going to actually 89 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:35.120 do something which lets the public know, the writers and also the operators know 90 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:42.680 that what happened before, what happened yesterday will not be allowed to continue. 91 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.360 In other words, do something more than pay lip service. You're listening to 92 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:51.879 Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty And if you grew 93 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:58.040 up going to the beach like me, then you know this is the best 94 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.199 time of the year. I find remember getting out there on my boogie board 95 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:07.120 at MacDonald Beach and Hermosa Beach getting pulled out by riptides. Was too stupid 96 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.240 to know that they were kind of dangerous. But I had a great time 97 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:13.759 going to the beach, and as I got older, I realized that southern 98 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:18.600 California beaches are some of the dirtiest in the world, no exaggeration, and 99 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.600 the La County Department of Public Health, to that end, is again warning 100 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:28.920 residents to avoid swimming, surfing, and playing in ocean waters at six area 101 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:35.320 beaches due to high bacteria levels. High bacteria levels I assume that means at 102 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.320 excrement and raw sewage. It kind of throws a wrench from them. Memorial 103 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.000 Day weekend just around the corner, and when these clouds go away, let 104 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.159 me tell you, the sun is just warming us beautifully. And you can 105 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:52.559 see some of those surfers catching the waves. And while some may avoid the 106 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.840 water, these guys say nothing can come between them and their waves. We 107 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:58.000 do want to go ahead and talk to you about some of these beach warnings 108 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:03.639 issued by the Lost Angelis County Department of Public Health. The department is asking 109 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:09.000 those planning to visit beaches on the warnings list to avoid ocean waters in these 110 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:13.639 specific conditions. Take a look for Malibu Lagoon at Surfrider Beach, which is 111 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.480 where we are, there's a warning one hundred yards up and down the coast 112 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:22.519 from the public restrooms. For Santa Monica Pier in Santa Monica one hundred yards 113 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.320 up and down the coast from the pier, Pico Kenter's storm drain at Santa 114 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.320 Monica Beach State Beach one hundred yards up and down the coast from the storm 115 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.279 drain, And for Topanga Canyon Beach in Malibu, one hundred yards up and 116 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.480 down the coast from the lagoon. This beach also given an F rating by 117 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:43.360 the way from heel the bay f The department is also asking folks to avoid 118 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.080 the entire swim area at Inner Cabrio Beach in San Pedro and Mother's Beach in 119 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.360 Marina del Rey. That's way too complicated. I can't remember all that, 120 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.720 You can't remember all that, and I shouldn't have to google is my beach 121 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.639 one hundred yards of this or one hundred yard from that. I'm gonna make 122 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:07.679 it real simple for both you and me follow along. If you have to 123 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:15.720 list six different beaches, let's say within a forty five mile range of each 124 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:20.279 other. If you have to list six different beaches, you might as well 125 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.519 just say all of them are unsafe, all of them are dirty, all 126 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.679 of them have unsafe bacteria levels, all of them are contaminated. Just say 127 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.759 the whole coast of California is contaminated, from Baja California into Oregon and everywhere 128 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.039 in between. Run a yellow caution tape from San Diego to Crescent City. 129 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.039 Just shut it all down. That way, nobody feels left out. Just 130 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.279 say the Pacific Ocean is closed for business this holiday weekend. I know it's 131 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:48.200 Memorial Day week and coming up. You want to go to the beach. 132 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.080 If I were like forty years younger, I would want to go to the 133 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:56.440 beach myself. But you know what, Pacific Ocean is closed for business this 134 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:01.840 holiday weekend. Just say that. Don't bore me, don't bore to all 135 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:07.120 it. It's definitely don't bore Stephan with the specific bacteria levels. Who cares 136 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.919 about that? Keep it simple, stupid. Contaminated is contaminated, Pregnant is 137 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:20.360 pregnant, Dead is dead is ditty is ditty. There aren't varying degrees of 138 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.159 certain things. If I say, oh, it's ditty, well you know 139 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.480 exactly what it is. No, no, no, there's no real discussion 140 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:28.799 to have if you say they're pregnant. Okay, got it, it is 141 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.080 what it is. I mentioned that because the story also says that contamination warnings 142 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:39.480 were lifted for four beaches. Do you really care which four there are? 143 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:46.240 I don't know. Nope, nope. Why Because contaminated is contaminated. It's 144 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:52.600 not like the beaches are partitioned off. It's not like Hermosa Beach is separated 145 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:56.159 from Redondo Beach is separated from Manhattan Beach. It doesn't work that way. 146 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:01.840 How do I know? Well, let's use science. One worm ruins the 147 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:09.000 apple. One turd ruins the whole swimming pool. Am I wrong? Am 148 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:18.440 I wrong? Sewage doesn't observe imaginary beach boundaries. Breakwaters, they may break 149 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.600 water, they may stop water, but they don't stop excrement. They don't 150 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:28.200 stop raw sewage. They don't stop bacteria, They don't stop contamination. Just 151 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:35.039 say the beach is closed until further notice. Just say, don't go into 152 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.759 water, any water if it's related to the Pacific Ocean for the next I 153 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.120 don't know, three four weeks. We'll get back to you in maybe July. 154 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.440 Let's check in again around the fourth of July. Let's check in the 155 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:54.080 next major holiday weekend and see if the beaches are any better. I maybe 156 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.480 I was just too dumb to know when I was a teenager, or maybe 157 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.799 the beaches were less contaminated, or we know more science now and maybe they 158 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:09.519 were always this contaminated. But I get the sense, I really do that 159 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.200 they were always that contaminated because this was back in the time when we had 160 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:18.039 small It was just footloose and fancy free with our environment. It didn't really 161 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.519 matter. We just did whatever. It didn't matter if if the ocean was 162 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.600 black, we would still get in the water. We would still go boogie 163 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.159 boarding, was still go surfing. I never really could surf. I was 164 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.519 never that talented, but I did boogie board. I had a mean boogieyboard 165 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.320 talent. Just say you can't get in the water at all. I don't 166 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.279 remember the last time I was in the water at a California beach. And 167 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.799 I know some of this we've covered before, but it bears mentioned again. 168 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.759 If you've ever listened to Soul Cow Saturdays with Twallas Sharp, He's made it 169 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:52.360 very clear how he feels about these poop beaches. They're not new, Nope, 170 00:13:52.399 --> 00:14:00.279 the water is full of it every single week. Why is this week 171 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:05.960 end any different? Okay, you have a beach advisory this week. I 172 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:11.279 appreciate that, But is this week really any different than last week? And 173 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.960 honestly, let's say they lift the contamination warnings on any of these beaches. 174 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.000 And honestly, I can't remember which ones they are. I heard some of 175 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.639 them are in Santa Monica. I don't know May it might have been Will 176 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.279 Rogers. I can't remember, and I know you can't either. That's why 177 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:31.320 I said keep it simple. They're all contaminated. Why we think of it 178 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:37.559 this way? If someone said that a portion of the water in your bathtub 179 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.360 was contaminated, wouldn't you think all of it was contaminated? And maybe that's 180 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:46.559 an oversimplification of how ocean water works, but I don't know if it's that 181 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.879 different. If you tell me it's contaminated at Will Rogers State Beach, well, 182 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.759 I assume the beach which is right next door to it, or right 183 00:14:54.799 --> 00:15:01.559 next to wherever it was contaminated is probably also contaminated. So do you want 184 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.960 to risk it if these advisories matter to you? If they matter, and 185 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.399 they may not matter at all, because I'm quite sure there will be people 186 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:16.039 in the water come Friday, regardless of these advisories, regardless of these warnings, 187 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.759 regardless of the excrement and raw sewage which may be found in the oceans. 188 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.320 They're gouldna be there. But does it really make any difference if they 189 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:30.320 say, well, it's it's better today, we can lift the advisory. 190 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.559 It was really bad yesterday, but now it's a little bit better. It 191 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.799 is scientifically more safer to go in the water. I just keep it simple, 192 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:46.000 and I just assume it's contaminated from the from San Diego to Crescent City 193 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:50.519 and that way it's a lot easier to wall. Are you going in the 194 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:52.720 water? Hell? No, up Mark Runner, Are you going in the 195 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:58.840 water? Not on your life moat not even my life. Knew his life, 196 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.120 right, Stephan? Are you going in the water? I not? 197 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.279 Nope? Okay, this real, it's a real quick pop quiz, gonna 198 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.360 go around real quick, Stephan, Can you tell me the beaches which were 199 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:17.240 deemed unsafe, all contaminated already, right right? Can you name them? 200 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.200 I can't, Mark? Can you name them? The number two beach? 201 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:26.679 Okay, that's all about Tuala. Can you name any of them that were 202 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:33.360 deemed contaminated? I think it was from Newport all the way back down in 203 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.960 Malibu. Why not? Why not? Because if you use that as your 204 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:44.679 starting point, you can't finish wrong. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly 205 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:51.600 on Demand from KFI AM six forty. If you should be able to afford 206 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.600 a house here in California, you're blessed. God bless you, and I 207 00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:00.639 mean that sincerely. If you are of able to afford paying rent here in 208 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:07.480 California, especially southern California, God bless you. Not everyone can. If 209 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:15.079 you didn't know, it's official that California's median house is now nine hundred thousand 210 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:21.400 dollars nine hundred thousand dollars, just short of a million. If you want 211 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.920 to put this in some perspective, we always say, well, that's that's 212 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:26.359 high. Yeah, it's been high for a long time. But let me 213 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:32.599 give you some perspective. The median cost of a house in California was just 214 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.640 eight hundred thousand dollars. Two years ago, March of twenty twenty two, 215 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:44.200 the median cost was eight hundred thousand dollars. It's gone up one hundred thousand 216 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:47.680 dollars in two years. I know, simple math, but amazing math. 217 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:56.880 Nonetheless. But here's what's less often discussed. There's this correlation between cost of 218 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:04.039 houses and the cost of rent hire. The median cost of houses higher the 219 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:08.319 median rent, and vice versa. Weird, right, they go hand in 220 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:14.319 hand. Housing is expensive in California. I'm not saying that there is a 221 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:18.359 causal relationship. I'm not saying because of this then that, but I'm saying 222 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.720 that there's a correlation. They're related on some level. High housing costs, 223 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:33.000 high rental costs, and get this high homelessness. It's almost strange how they 224 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:36.599 go hand in hand. It's almost strange how they're related. The cost of 225 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:45.880 housing in California is and continues to be ridiculously high. We love capitalism. 226 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:49.640 I love capitalism, and I keep trying to remind you I love capitalism. 227 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:56.359 I don't say that I love capitalism ignorant of its faults and its shortcomings. 228 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.400 I'm saying I love capitalism, and I also acknowledge that it has a lot 229 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.799 of shortcomings. Or let me put it this way, there are consequences of 230 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:10.680 capitalism. You may say, well, but let the free market decide. 231 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:14.759 You may say, let businesses do what they want. Well, this is 232 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.400 a function of letting the free market decide. The free market has decided that 233 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:23.640 the median cost of houses in California is nine hundred thousand dollars. You can 234 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:29.599 say, let the free market decide. And gas station owners have set their 235 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:34.680 price levels much higher than around the country, higher than the gas tax difference. 236 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:40.960 That's capitalism. But let me just stay within the realm of housing. 237 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:48.279 Just for reference sake, the median cost of a house in California was only 238 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:53.240 two hundred thousand dollars back in nineteen ninety nine. We all remember nineteen ninety 239 00:19:53.319 --> 00:20:00.880 nine, two hundred thousand dollars. The only time the median significantly dropped in 240 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:06.640 the past forty years, you got it, the Great Recession. So this 241 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:12.920 has been astronomical in the past quarter century, more than quadrupled, almost quintupled. 242 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.680 You think that's bad, here's some other bad news. And this is 243 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:26.160 almost counterintuitive. It doesn't make sense given what I just told you. According 244 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:32.599 to the US News and World Report, as San Francisco is the only California 245 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:37.160 city in the top twenty five of best places to live in the US. 246 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:42.400 Again, this is according to the US News and World Report. California, 247 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:48.359 the state where the median house costs nine hundred thousand dollars. Only San Francisco 248 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.000 is in the top twenty five of best places to live in the US according 249 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.599 to the US News and World Report. And you say San Francisco, yeah, 250 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:03.279 San Francisco. San Jose came in a number seventy. No other California 251 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.720 city was in the top one hundred. So if we take a step back, 252 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:11.880 we realized that only two cities, according to the US News and World 253 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.559 Report, are in the top one hundred. Two California cities are in the 254 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:22.279 top one hundred. Nowhere else. Nobody else is in the top one hundred 255 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.039 according to the US News and World Report, and their list was based on 256 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:33.240 crime rates, quality of education, air quality, and value. And this 257 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.519 is where I go to someone like Mark Ronner because I would love an outsiders 258 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:40.880 and I consider him an outsider because it wasn't born here, he wasn't raised 259 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:44.200 here, he didn't live here for most of his adult life. I would 260 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:49.920 love an outsider's perspective on why you may think that is where the housing and 261 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:55.559 the land is so very valuable, but the quality of living is not consistent 262 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:57.079 with that. Well, I'll tell you one reason that I just read last 263 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:00.680 night, which is that one out of every five homes are being bought up 264 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:04.680 by private equity firms. That'll drive up the cost. That goes back to 265 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.839 the whole capitalism thing. Well, that's how to control capitalism. That's not 266 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:12.920 even smart capitalism, that's just destructive capitalism. Yea, no no value judgment. 267 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:19.200 I'm saying capitalism is capitalism, and you can't necessarily control all the factors 268 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.880 of it. When you say capitalism, you got to take the good with 269 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.960 the bad. Well, no, you can control this, and there is 270 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.839 a suggestion that legislation be made to prohibit corporations like this from buying residential homes, 271 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:37.359 and that would definitely help get a handle on things. Hey, Mark, 272 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.759 we could control the price of rent, cost of rent, but we 273 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.359 voted down rent control twice. I mean, I hear you this. You're 274 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:52.000 talking about Okay, okay, California. But my point is your point is 275 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.759 well taken. Where there are things that we in the sense of voters, 276 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:03.880 could control, we in the sense of legislators and the legislature could control, 277 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.559 but we don't. We would rather have unfettered capitalism. And the only point 278 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.920 I'm making is this is what it looks like, this is what it feels 279 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:17.960 like. You your word unfettered is exactly right unfettered because here's Mark's aphorism of 280 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.359 the day. Capitalism without any regulations or controls eats itself and destroys things and 281 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.680 hurts people. Unfettered capitalism is what we've got that's driving people out of house 282 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:32.559 and home. And we've never had pure capitalism. And I make a distinction 283 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:36.480 between unfettered and pure capitalism. If there are still go ahead, Mark, 284 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:41.240 if you want that to go to Somalia, Okay, yes, because pure 285 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.400 capitalism does not exist in the real world in any way that is livable. 286 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:49.559 No, And if we want to have a deeper economic conversation, we would 287 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:55.319 have to admit that we live in a blended economy. There are services which 288 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:57.720 are provided and expect to be provided by the government, the state government and 289 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:02.640 our local governments. Is not what people think it is. We have a 290 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.640 blended economy. The only point I'm making this For all the things that we 291 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:08.519 may complain about California, talking about the high cost of living, part of 292 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:11.680 that is we brought that on ourselves. And part of it is, you 293 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.960 know, we're paying for the weather. We will always pay for the weather, 294 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:21.359 and we're paying for this land, which is finite in the sense that 295 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.000 they're not creating any more of it, and it's always going to be very 296 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:30.839 valuable. And as other technology companies may continue to come to California, you 297 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.880 know, the Silicon Beach did not grow in the way that originally was planned 298 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:41.519 to. But still there are some technology hotspots in San Jose area and Santa 299 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:49.039 Monica, which has somehow, to some degree driven the cost of of of 300 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:55.240 land and real estate. But you know, this is what it means to 301 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:56.759 live in California. And for all the people who want to say, well, 302 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.519 look at all the people leaving California, well, you know, you 303 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.079 got to take the good with the bad. Me and I always say this, 304 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:04.400 and I'll say it again, I don't care if everyone leaves. If 305 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:08.240 anything that makes my traffic that much better, my commute that much better, 306 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.079 let them go. I'm happy I moved here. I wish I had moved 307 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.799 here sooner than I did. I love it here. But you got to 308 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.359 remember, Mo, that everything's connected, especially in economics. And so we're 309 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.599 also getting all these reports right now showing that four plus decades of trickle down 310 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:27.079 economics didn't work, okay, and so that's connected to people not being able 311 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:30.480 to buy a home too. It's connected to the fact that when we were 312 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.920 kids, one person with one income could support a family, go on vacation, 313 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.440 set the kids to college. That's insane. Now there's no way you 314 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.599 could do that on one income. Now it's all connected. That's my point. 315 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:48.000 Beyond that, you've made another good point. People unfortunately today think of 316 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:53.799 the economy in one year or two year increments, when honestly, we can 317 00:25:53.839 --> 00:26:00.759 look at the economy from legislative decisions on a state level in the federal level 318 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:07.519 going back a decade or so or more, which have consequences or impact on 319 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.400 what's happening today. But we don't have serious economic discussions. We just have 320 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.839 We talk about the unemployment rate, We talk about inflation of the moment, 321 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.319 and that's it, not any of the factors which might have caused those things, 322 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:25.680 which may have proceeded in administration or two. But you know they don't 323 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:30.039 want to hear that. Nope, look at the time, look at it. 324 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.799 It's Later with mo Kelly, can't buy AM six forty. We're live 325 00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:34.359 everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And when we come back, we have not 326 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:38.680 one, but two sets of earthquake swarms which have hit California. What the 327 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.759 hell is going on with this state? And why is twala give me information 328 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:48.000 about earthquake swarms which did not hit five point zh He knows the rules and 329 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:51.359 he's in violation, but we'll still talk about it when we come back. 330 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.319 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. 331 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:02.279 In this hour of California Bad News has been brought to you by producer Tauala 332 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:07.519 Sharp. You can hear him as host of Soul col Saturday. The whole 333 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.039 damn hour. We start off with someone getting stabbed on the Metro and then 334 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.200 La County released bacteria warning for six beaches. I said, fet all of 335 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.640 them. And then California rank poorly in study of best places to live in 336 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.039 the US. Oh and by the way, California's meeting home price crosses nine 337 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.880 hundred thousand dollars. And if that weren't bad enough, we're going to end 338 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:32.079 the hour with some earthquake swarms because Tuala has that sixth sense of humor, 339 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:36.119 and this is an inside joke actually, which is going to be going to 340 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:41.839 bring it out. I say that I don't take earthquakes seriously unless they're a 341 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.640 five point zero. Tauala doesn't agree with me, and he wants to talk 342 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:51.119 about earthquakes which are three point nine, four point one, four point five, 343 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.400 and to get around that, he wants to use new math. I 344 00:27:55.480 --> 00:28:00.559 say five point oh. He gives me a story about two dozen earthqua quakes 345 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.279 measuring two point five, as if you can add them together and then they 346 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.519 add up to like seven point five or something like that. No, these 347 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:15.440 are minor earthquakes measuring two point five on the Richter scale, and they happened 348 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.039 about two thousand of them. Happened just after midnight Saturday, with an epicenter 349 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:23.519 about one hundred and seventy five miles southeast of downtown, LA and one hundred 350 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.720 miles northeast of San Diego. Hello, Orange County, I'm quite sure you 351 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.559 enjoyed them all. The largest quake and this is the real point to while 352 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:38.920 I hope you're listening, the largest quake of that earthquakes swarm was a magnitude 353 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:45.880 three point nine class Did we already discuss that five point zero was the minimum 354 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:52.440 for discussion of earthquakes? Mo, what are you not understanding about a swarm, 355 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:57.960 a literal swarm of earthquakes descending on California. This is something out out 356 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:04.960 of biblical time, A swarm of earthquakes, swarm, two dozen minor earthquakes. 357 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.559 If anything from what I remember in geology, which is not a hell 358 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.720 of a lot, be clear. If anything, I was told that these 359 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:19.880 minor earthquakes help release tension on at least one or possibly multiple faults, depending 360 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:23.359 where they are, so we don't have to save up all this tension for 361 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:27.119 the big one in California would break off and fall into the ocean and submerge. 362 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:32.799 Maybe that would be the case if it was one here, one there, 363 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:40.119 but a literal swarm descending on California type of ominous being. Don't be 364 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.720 bringing my b phobia into this. Okay, you're trying to connect dot switch, 365 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:49.200 don't connect swarm. These are earthquakes. These are buzzing all across southern 366 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.480 California. I'm not Amy King. I don't do bees. Okay, she 367 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.200 does bees. I don't do bees. We're gonna Bees are not welcome around 368 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.680 here, not even the discussion of them. And if if you should try 369 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.680 to play a beast on effects, Stephan all reach through this radio of this 370 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.039 wall and knock you out. Do not play any beast on effects. An 371 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.359 earthquake of earthquakes don't swarm. No, it's just it's a cluster. Okay, 372 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.160 they're not swarm. Swarm connotes that they're alive, that they have consciousness, 373 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.920 that they're sentient in nature. They're none of that. We don't know 374 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:26.720 what the motive of these earthquakes was. You cannot assign any type of emotion 375 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.680 to these earthquakes. You don't know what they were into. Why don't you 376 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.640 talk to the earthquakes? Mark, look at what I'm doing here. I 377 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.079 need a voice of reason. I need a voice for reason, just someone 378 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:40.160 who can understand that these are earthquakes. Can there possibly be a hive of 379 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:47.559 earthquakes possible? About you too? Bleed? Yeah, makes perfect sense to 380 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:52.759 me. Ben't the slightest this, This makes perfect sense to you. I'll 381 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.039 tell you where I do agree with you. Move. Don't even wake me 382 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.279 up for an earthquake that's below a six. Okay? Did you have any 383 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.920 period of adjustment coming from the Pacific Northwest to California and earthquakes? Was there 384 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.519 any? Not at all? Not at all. The earthquakes don't bother me 385 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.039 the slightest. In fact, I covered a huge one when I worked in 386 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.279 Seattle, where all the facades fell off, the old buildings and Pioneer Square 387 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.680 and everything. That was far worse than anything I've seen since I've lived here. 388 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.359 What was that? A six? Something I don't recall, but I 389 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.559 mean it got people's attention. I'll tell you that it's probably more than a 390 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.559 five. To Wallach, it was probably more than a five. You know 391 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:36.480 what, maybe, but you still need to be wary. No, I 392 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.519 don't, you know, I don't What am I supposed to do about earthquakes 393 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.559 which are in the past. Am I supposed to call like JPL or the 394 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.279 USGS and say, hey, there was an earthquake, swarm. Oh, 395 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.680 you already know about it because you reported it. Thanks a lot, have 396 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.119 a nice day. What am I supposed to do? We are literally letting 397 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.720 every single individual listening to the sound of your voice, sound of my voice. 398 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.359 Now, even Mark Fouch over there on the board. We need to 399 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:07.160 let them know that we know about this warm Okay, they know, we 400 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:10.480 know everybody knows, and there's nothing we can do with it other than say, 401 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:16.319 there were twenty four our earthquakes that nobody felt, nobody and you can 402 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:28.079 go straight to hell, you two. Stephanf I am six forty. 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