There you go. It's talking about removing stuff MCU looking like it's like,
look at the slate, let's take some of this out, you know.
So none of these projects I'm gonna throw two rumors is bund them together.
All this stuff is rumored, and they are coming from the same Actually they're
not, but they're coming from similar sources. There's one on the production side
that I feel like it's kind of a no dab. It still's out there
where Iiger, you know. The biggest one, sadly for you, Dylan
is I guess Figy was like fighting and he wants to still do Eternals two,
but Igor feels it's not gonna do well. So Turnals two an Men
four and Captain Marvel three or whatever that whatever it could have been, the
Marvels two whatever, amalgamation something starring Captain Marvel Carol Danvers is off the table.
They were in development, which kind of makes sense. I'm kind of
surprised, and A Man four was in development. To be honest, I
could understand Eternals two and Captain Marvel, but and Man four, it's like,
other than four, we haven't got that. And then the other rumor
it's coming from like a higher CE tier C plus but is saying that,
and it was backed up by another person too, that Gosling has cast in
the MSU. No other further details were given, So that could be ghost
Rider, that could be Doctor Doom, that could be No, that could
be a whole bunch of things. So, Dylan, I want to start
with you, was this anything that was surprising to you or a little awesome?
Might be Sabo Eternals, But do you think it's something that maybe like
those characters, are you fine to see them again in some sort of group
crossover. Do you think they could be kind of just kind of ushered out
in general? Yeah, I'm I'm really not bummed about the Eternals too thing,
even though I do like that first movie. I I mean, I
didn't even have it really in my head that this was actually gonna happen.
It just it seemed weird. Right, We had that movie, which is
like seems like so much set up, and then we've had like nothing happen
with since it came out in like what twenty twenty one. Yeah, at
this point, right, all we've had is like King Goo posters, and
that's like the only way that it's been connected to any other projects, so
it's just seemed like a really weird way to infuse it into the rest of
the brand. And I feel like the way that they closed off the movie
it, you know, it wasn't there like a there wasn't really a direct
line to any other project other than like maybe Blade I guess, but even
that seemed like not really substantial in any way. But for me, I
definitely want those characters to go to other movies, other properties, other shows,
and go interact with them in other places rather than necessarily getting a SQL
movie And like maybe doing that in the future potentially, but I think you
should, you know, get them mingling with other characters that we know and
love in more known properties, in you know, more successful things that more
people were watching and seeing. And then at that point, if the if
it's very successful and you have a good story for it, maybe then go
down the route of a sequel. But yeah, I didn't, I didn't
really want that immediately, so it doesn't that doesn't really bum me out as
much that that's not happening anymore. I I, I guess I worry is
not the right word, but I'll say I'm worried that this means that,
like maybe they're just gonna kind of drop those characters in general, because if
you don't have future plans for a movie, they haven't really interacted with any
characters meaningful way. There isn't really some setup of like, ooh, the
next one's gonna have this big character from Eternals in it. So it seems
like they could just very easily. You know, they have so much on
their plate right now, they're canceling things left and right, they're slowing down
production. That just seems like an easy thing to kind of fall by the
wayside, and then before we know, five or six, seven years,
if we're gonna pass, none of those characters will ever be and anything again.
And it's like, you know what, let's just let's just consider that
the end of the Eternal Story for what it was in the MCU. So
I think that's unfortunately, like might be the easiest thing at the end of
the day. I hope that's not the case, because we do have some
great characters and castings in those roles. But yeah, eventually those actors are
just gonna move on if they're not getting to play those characters again, right,
So not too mumped about that. And then Captain Marvel three. I
mean, first of all, that's gonna be one of the biggest like flops
in Hollywood history, from like Captain Marvel being a billion dollar movie to the
second movie just completely bombing and then like just essentially being canceled on the third
Like can you think of an other movie that was a billion dollar movie?
Then the sequel was like that poorly received? No, because even ant Man
two it's close to five hundred million, Like it started slow, but it
had some good leg So like that's like still it's not great because it's half
but that's still at least something I I'd have to look. But that is
that is probably one of the bigger cases of such a huge draw and I
think that there's a lot of things to do with it, but I all,
now, I'd love to see the what if of Captain Marvel releasing when
it's not the movie before Endgame, you know, or the movie before it
was an Endgame, No Infinity War, so it's Infinity War because and and
Infinity where the pager went off, then everyone knew what was it? Was
it before? After Infinity War? Yeah? No, won does she show
oh no, it is Infinity It's you're right, it's before endgame because it
goes Infinity War. Yeah, and then the Pager and then the Captain Marvel
yeah, and Captain Marvel. The end credit is her showing up being like,
wait, it's Fury right, Okay, Glue. But that's why I
wonder two, well that would have done if not in that realm of movies.
You know, that's a good point, like what any other movie feels
like it could have been dropped in that same slot as it had, and
maybe the Dollar Movie as well, you know, but still like I I
don't love that movie, And you know, a big factor for me for
MCU stuff is like how fun it is to rewatch, how much it's like
a comfort movie for me, just like put it on I did. That
movie is so boring, Like I never put that on, and Miss Marvel
was really bad. I like the Marvels enough. That's my favorite of the
of those three things, I think, But I'm not bummed that we're not
getting a third one here. Once again, those are characters too that I
want to see them interact with other characters. They've done some setup now with
Miss Marvel where she can go off to do some other stuff. Captain Marvel
don't really know exactly what she'll do. I think Spectrum might be the character
like falls by the wayside of who knows what her future is. But I'm
sure she's just hanging out with the X Men right now, right, so
maybe she's got that's a good thing where she ended up, right, sure,
Yeah, she could pop up somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, I
mean the the the bummer for me here is ant Man, because I love
I love those movies. I mean the third one is obviously the exception to
that, but that movie just it it doesn't really feel like much like an
ant Man movie. And you know, we've talked about how after that,
how Paul Rudd had like pitched a script for like a smaller scale, just
like a family story that he wanted to do for that movie, and they're
like, no, we gotta do this Quantumania. Things like, man,
I wish I wish we deviated down that multiverse and just got that lighthearted movie
that was probably a way smaller budget, simpler movie probably would have stuck the
landing a little more. And even if it not like a billion dollar movie
by any means, but it just would have been solid consistent o those first
two. I had a question for you, and I'm gonna pull up the
slate right now. So let's say ant Man did get that, like the
whole Just Family movie. Do you think there's a movie off the top of
your head that would have been better to do that? We have to have
Kang introduced. It's gonna be this one. Let's say it's not an ant
Man. I gotta pull the slate to even see what came out. But
I'm one wondering if in that what if universe of okay Man's not gonna produce
Kang, but this will. Let's see what we have here. Come on
Wikipedia, Oh my god, Wikipedia. So in phase four we had Black
Widow, Sung Sheet Eternals, No Way, Doctor Strange, Love and Thunder
and Black Panther. I think the only way could we work is Strange.
Could you do that? Really? Yeah? Because not Love the Thunder.
But if you if you like tack it onto what that movie already was,
Well, I'm saying conception, you change, like the same way we're changing
ant Man. You change one of these to say like it is no longer
a multiverse of madness, it's King and or strange. Answer is just like
doctor Strange, Doctor Strange four or sorry three. I guess we're still only
on two, right, Yeah, yeah, the route to go True coming
up, maybe it would have made a lot more sense. Or I don't
really don't none, because if Black Panther also was gonna happen for that,
I wouldn't trust Tyke. I still like tayk as movies, but like I
wouldn't trust him to introduce Kang. And then phase five, what do we
get here? For projects? We had ant Man, Guardians three, the
Marvels, Deadpool Wolverine, Captain America four, and Thunderbolts. I wonder if
that's another way too you could change if I wonder if there's a way of
the Marvels too, and maybe you can give it a little bit more oomph
and like they're already cosmic and they always talked about like the bands being something
new with Sung She's I feel like the Marvels and Doctor Strangers like the only
two you could have changed to Manet that you know, I don't think Dead
Poo Wolverine that's not the place. Guardian's three, No, the cap that
would have been quite a big challenge for Cat Sam's first day on the job.
I guess what you're finding the multiverse caller guy, you know, And
I'm not saying shows. I guess I think they introduced in the right spot,
Loki. I was just trying to think movie wise, if you could
do that. So yeah, it's just it's hard for me to blame.
I don't know too, Like at Man three just feels like it was a
situation of the circumstances of what the higher ups wanted to do and like pushing
this story on, like the characters and stories that didn't really make sense for
it. But then all so just like talking about how bad the writing was,
Like obviously it was kind of Dune from the get go in some ways,
just because of the people they had working on it. So but it's
just a bummer to me, Like I just wanted to keep getting ant Man
movies, even if I didn't like that they're just go back to something smaller.
But I understand that sometimes it's hard to reverse scale, especially for something
like that Man, you know, to get as big as it was even
though they were in the quantum realm, and then to go back to like
a smaller story scale. The smaller scale story maybe feels unintuitive for them,
But yeah, that's that's the biggest bummer of the of these three kind of
cancellations for me. I'm sure we'll still like. Out of all these characters,
I think ant Man is probably the one who has that best chance of
being on the next Avengers roster and still being in those movies. Who knows
about the rest of the people in that movie, because there's a lot of
side characters, but at least our main man and Wasp, I'm sure we'll
stick around. And you kind of answered it. Manny says, as if
you could resurrect one project, which you choose ant Man four K to Marvel,
why not Eternals to Maddy. You're saying for me to be like a
Man number one, then Eternals, then Captain Marvel three would be like my
bottom of the barrel. Unfortunately, I think I'm trying to think my order.
I don't know, I really don't know. There's like part of me
that I could say Captain Marvel first, just because she hadn't got that trilogy
to see what else they could do it. Because I really like the three,
I guess I'd have to be confirmed what's going on with the ladies,
because I'd like them all back together as a unit. I feel like there's
more you could do with the trifecta, you know, And obviously it was
in the news, but Maddie I also asked if you had one choice character
for Ryan Gosslingden, who would you like to see him? If this rumor
is true, it's been bad around a few times. Off is very hot
coming off Barbie Fall Guys apparently getting really good reviews. So he's like Goslin's
having a really good run right now with movies. So does he hitch his
wagon in the MCU hoping that, oh, well that's gonna it's gonna go
well, you know, Yeah, I mean i'd love to see it.
I think to me, like a role like Barbie into like a big Marvel
role, would be a really great one two punch to like, I mean,
he's in the zeitgeist right now, so it would make sense. It
would be a great grab if MCU can can get him. I don't know
if he would want to jump on at this point when it's not necessarily the
rocky prestige that maybe was, But yeah, I would love to in the
Barbie way like can kind of continue the villain sort of element of it and
see him see him play another villain character. So yeah, I think,
like I think doctor Doom is probably the easy one. We've talked about it
before, I think, but I think that would be fun, And just
knowing the rest of the cast, I think he would fit well in there,
like age wise and like chemistry wise. I'd really have to think about
because it feels too soon for like an X Men casting. Yeah, And
I just at one point I had him as like a Cyclaus, but I
don't. I don't think he's gonna like It's That's where it's tough, right,
What does the guy want to do? Does he want to gill and
haul one off, one and done and go play the villa and gonna be
done. That's not Doom, right because if it's Doom, he's gonna be
around for a while. And it's tough for me too. It's just kind
of like I feel like he's kind of creating a new brand for himself with
Barbie and fall Guy. That's where I'm finally him being Doom. We doom
Doom. We've seen it like with Drive, and we've seen it with like
places beyond the Pies and Blade Runner, like he can played that cold calculating
person and Henna bring some grovetoss to it. But I almost feel like with
the vibe he is going right now, does he not want to play like
another kind of charismatic fun character, because I think that's what people are wanting
from Gossling now right And I don't know who that would be though in the
MCU right now, that's not like a one off, like it'd be different
if it's like a he give it to me. He's gonna be he's gonna
be Kazar Okay, he's gonna have he's gonna come in before the X men.
He's gonna have long blonde hair, he's gonna be wearing a war cloth
essentially, and then oh my gosh, what's what's his ally? His name,
yeahab and then we're gonna have a Zabo in there. He's just gonna
be just like talking to Zabu the whole time and just like a really again,
it's it's really pulling, I think from the k energy that he brought
from Barbie to that role. But uh yeah, it just popped my head
and I just what about, uh what if he's the Kang recast. That
would be interesting. If he was the King recast. I would, as
his agent, tell not to do that, but it would be something he
could be the way we've theorized before. You know it could. Yeah,
that's the pitch to every act. Yeah, I think we we've talked about
how there's like the villain secret wars known as the Beyonder, and some people
think you could do that. We've talked about as like a King variant,
you could have him do that. Maybe it's just I just feel like he's
like with Barbie and now Fall guys supposed to we gonna do well. It's
just like, is this what he wants to do, like be the villain?
Like I don't know, Like it's just I really don't like if I
had my druthers as far as the villain's Actually, I know this is a
weird pick, but I actually would love him to be Sinister because those rumors
popped up again last week that Foggy is planning for Sinister to be the main
bad guy. But I think if he's cast, that's not Sinister because Sinster.
I don't think he's coming in for a bit now. But I think
a sinister He could play him a bit more flamboyant, but again not as
much as can so that's where it was part of me. I just don't
know if I believe this rumor apart from I'm not counting a Deadpool role where
he's in there for a cup of coffee, right, because like the rumors,
that's pretty much I'm not gonna say what it is, but those rumors
a couple weeks ago that Henry's cast in the M two. It sounds like
he is cast, but it just sounds like it's something fun for Deadpool.
That's what it sounds like. It doesn't sound like he's like, I'm Captain
Britain from now on. So is it just that? Maybe? But I
don't I really and I don't have a fancast because I think all the fan
casts I would want Maddie or Ones. I think he would say no to
always too big for I guess I actually think he would be a good Cyclops,
but I don't think he's gonna be Scott Summers right now, and even
then they might go younger, and I think he could be a good Doom
so that could work. But yeah, I'm very curious about this one,
but I do think it would be a good get for them whatever, if
he was like an actual character. Gossling hot right now. And I also
think that they threw him a fucking boatload of money because this is the hottest
he's ever been. And if they're getting him for an actual not Deadpool,
came like a role role. He's getting the truck backed up to his Ken
mansion right now. So and he's never done the Coming Book with me,
right, I still don't. Also, I know people also think the ghostwriter
thing because Gosling said he would like to play ghostwriter. That to me feels
like a big waste. I know, Taylor, you want ghostwriter, but
I just feel like, maybe, I guess maybe he just wants to do
the voice. I don't know. That just feels like again, as the
agent, i'd be like, you're really hot right now, No pun intended,
but don't do don't do Ghostwriter like. I just don't think that's the
way take Kying before ghost Rider. In my opinion, I'm sorry, Taylor,
but no, no, don't be like I wouldn't really want him as
my ghostwriter, to be honest, Norman, you get a movie made,
though, if he was if Ran Goslin's cast, you're definitely getting movie though.
Yeah, that's true, the big tier star tay, you got someone
for Gossling, and then you can have about the cancelations as well. I
mean, you guys touched upon some great possible castings. I don't know who
else would be left, Like I'm a fisto a silver Surfer, like those
are all villains. Silver Surfer is not a bad one either, if he
just want to get a voice gig, like because I don't think he'd do
the mo cap. Really would you say? I like that? Okay,
one off villain Century Thunderbolts replacing Stephen Unit or did we get a replacement for
Steven? We did. It's Lewis Pulman, the guy who played Bob and
Top Gun. Yeah, but lots of people wanted that because he's blown in
his long hair. But yeah, Surfer is not bad. That's a good
like not one and done. But that's a Bradley Cooper type of gig right
where it's just coming for a little while, maybe films a few things of
like Ryan Gossling as a dude, but get on the board. You know,
he can have lots of fun with the promotion on the board. You
know they he'll do some dumb shit with it, and you know, yeah,
regarding the no longer in developments, UH Turtles to and Men for Captain
and Marvel three, I'd probably rank at Men four as the one i'd want
to get mad. I think that one, and I'd probably go with turnals
to to follow it, actually, just because I really really want to know
what's over Captain. I really want to know what's going on in the Eternal's
storyline because I feel like it's just got such a big cliffhanger with our team
divided, and I feel like they could they could turn a sequel around.
At least. I wasn't hugely enthused with that first one, but I think
that the second one could. No, we've got pre established characters could just
really grow and develop and really sprout. But Captain Marvel three, I just
didn't like the story. I didn't like the villains, but I love I
really did joy of Miss Marvel, Captain Marvel, and then what is Her
came the other ladies, So the trio was great, and I would love
to see some continued adventures with those characters, but I don't feel like I
need another movie on par with Yeah, the Cree and Hope and all that
ship in there. So oh Ben, Yeah, give me my other Emperor
dude. Oh yeah, man, he's the best. He created his own
MC category. We're gonna get next year for cold yeeks. You don't know
what's popping off with him though. You don't know what's going on with the
Scroll Emperor, are you, baby Taylor? No, I'm just asking you
don't know what's going on them after Secret Invasion. I don't need any Scroll
stuff. I'm changing my answer. I'm putting Cat Marvel at number one.
Just actually I said that was my answer, righty. That's another reason just
get more than Emperor going. You know. There you go, mister Patzer,
were you hopeful on the projects to no longer be? I think Captain
Marvel is if you want to give something different on what what are you talking
about? Not yet? NI? Keep going? You're good, You're You're
messed with me right now? You know what's going on the ones that I
would want to keep in the order to be, I would say Captain Marvel,
than ant Man, then Eternals, and then just talking about Eternals.
I guess I I'm not too bummed to that that we're not getting any more
of that. I feel like I didn't love that the way that they were
all set up in that first movie, and for that reason, I just
didn't really have like a strong foundation for this team moving forward, even though
you know, we said goodbye to one member. From my memory, my
memory is correct, right, Is it just Chris that perishes? No?
Isn't there Like there's a couple doesn't know Julio down doesn't she lives? You
know, she lives. The guy who's taking care of Oh yeah, yeah,
what's his name? Iconic character, a little bit forgettable. And I
don't know, like I think when that movie came out, I was wasn't
really ready for the scale of the things that that movie was introduced to.
And I'm glad we're not rushing to Yeah, just thinking of the fucking statue
in the middle of the earth. Now that's just there, that's there.
So yeah, that one I'm not too bummed about. Captain Marvel. I
think that one is the one that hurts the most, and that's kind of
a reason why it's my number one that I would want to save the most,
just because I mean the chemistry of the Three Ladies was was just top
tier, and I think that just had like a bad plot overall, not
because of the three characters. I think you can have the three characters together
with them like bouncing around that they were in the beginning, like swapping places
with different villain and kind of just a different motivation overall. I think you
get a much better story out of that. But yeah, and just I
would want to have that, but hopefully, hopefully we were able to you
know, see those characters and the big big Avengers type titles and maybe just
focus their energies on that type of pairing project as opposed to focus, you
know on just their own being Captain Marvel Film. Also, I didn't ask
this question, but none of us are just like surprised by these cuts,
right, like if the if the ones are going to go in the upcoming
slates, Like these all make sense to me, I'm saying, you know,
Brent Chris, I'm sorry, but like I still think war Machines next
or Armor Wars like the only that helps that is Brent is right. There's
never been an announced MSU project that's been canceled or whatnot. But you know,
here's the first time for everything, just like there was the first time
for MC movie to bomb or you know, a movie to get raw.
Like I just feel if to me, if you if Bob Biger were sitting
down and say, hey, we could only make four of these movies,
I mean it's Eternals to a man four, Captain Marvel three whatever, Armor
Wars. I think Armour Wars for me might be the bottom every time,
maybe a little bit over e Turnals because you can say Rody, but I
was just think after Secret Invasion, all time low for that character, and
with Roddy the at least I could see they could do some chic cane.
It's chicanery, not kang of Oh there's a downy Ai thing or iron Hard
or you can load it with other characters. Captain America maybe so maybe,
but I just don't if you're canceling these ones, I don't see how Armor
Wars still goes through. I just think that's a mistake. I love Sam,
but I don't think that's gonna be guaranteed hit. That might guarantee me
liking it because I you know again, I watched Arnel last week and we
didn't do our what we've been watching Taylor, I will say it for next
time because I want to get your thoughts on last Wish their Irish wish there.
But yeah, like, I don't think Sam Rockwell guarantees that as a
hit movie. You think that, Taylor, Ah, No, I mean
it would take a little bit more. I mean you can honestly just toss
them into one of the other projects to be yeah, and just shoehorn in
a narrative that fits. Just rehoot iron Heart, put them in there.
You know. There you go done so so you'll see. I just don't.
I just don't. I think Armour Wars is a bad idea. I
really do. Again, not for me. I'll go watch it. But
if they're trying to make money and they're canceling these like you're gonna tell me
this Dawn Cheetle lead sidekick movie is gonna scroll chet Well, scroll scroll Cheetle.
Alright, let's take our last. Maybe I'll do what's watching at the
end take because I want your thoughts in it's current this week, so and
everyone else to what they've been watching. But let's say our last at break
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