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at at Talking ECC sports. This
week we have a great return guest in

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Brent Blevins. Brent, welcome back
to the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast.

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Tell us about yourself friend Matthew Jeff. Always great to see you guys be

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on the air with you. Just
for a background, I am a native

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Virginia. I grew up in Southwest
Virginia, about forty five minutes from Blacksburg,

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Virginia. So I went to Virginia
Tech. I have three degrees from

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there, both during the Big East
ACC years, and so I have been

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following ACC sports for quite a long
time. And so it's you know,

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so it's always just a pleasure to
be with you all. You all have

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such great robust discussions, and you
know, I really appreciate the chance to

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be with you all today. Thank
you for joining us, Brent. So

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let's get right through the week that
was in ACC football. Who was the

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most disappointing team in ACC football Week
five? And who was the most impressive

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team? The four is your?
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Pittsburgh is trying to make a case
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the bontod teams of the conference.
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point last night. But all that
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the pretty obvious answer here is Georgia
Tech. I yesterday I was fourteen nothing.

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You know, midway through the first
quarter, I kind of, you

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know, in truth, I stopped
paying attention and I you know, I

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saw a score in the third quarter
and it was thirty one fourteen, and

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I thought I had you know,
I thought I had you re versus scores.

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But you know, obviously I didn't. You know, Georgia Tech was

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coming off, you know, a
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uh nothing, I mean they should, you know, good win for the

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program. You know, it kind
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right direction. But you know,
to give up thirty eight consecutive points to

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a one in three team in the
MAC, which, with all due respect,

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I don't think anyone was necessarily talking
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uh, you know, and I
mean frankly, I mean the final

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score, you know, with like
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there, Brett Brent, Oh,
sorry, sorry about that. But you

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know, to give up thirty eight
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a one and three MAC team is
just you know, it's tough, and

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you know, I'm glad Georgia Tech
a couple of final scores to uh you

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know, kind of make things look
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but uh, just a bad loss
for Georgia Tech. And uh, you

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know, obviously I know they're building
their program, but very very disappointing.

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How would your most impressed? Yeah, I got a follow up on this,

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Brent. Yeah, the Georgia Tech
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watch this game and it was a
it was a complete debacle of a loss.

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I mean, there was no other
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was every bit as bad as some
of Jeff Collins's worst losses at at Georgia

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Tech. The concerning part I would
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happened under Collins, the team's his
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out. Like you said, you
know, they took a fourteen zero lead,

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and I thought they were gonna on
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thirty or forty points, and they
just simply stopped playing. It was like

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a switch went off and the defense
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sustain a drive. I think Bowling
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two minutes, and it's one of
the most bizarre things I've I've seen from

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from even from Georgia Tech as bad
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because it was just, like I
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and you know, it's it's all. It's clearly too early to say,

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you know anything about Brent Key's job
status. It's it's far too early for

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that, and no one's even suggesting
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at a game like that and say, hey, is this a red flag?

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You know, just not having his
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comments from the players. There were
several players that came out and said,

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hey, we didn't respect them,
we didn't focus hard. You haven't been

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to a bowl game since twenty eighteen. There's not a single team on your

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entire schedule that you should be overlooking
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falls on Brent Key. You know, at least I would say he did

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something today that shows some self awareness. That he did demote the previous defensive

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coordinator Thacker. I think his first
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right, yeah, Andy Thacker and
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And that right there says at least
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truly broke and not letting it kind
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you know, can this be fixed
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like, hey, this is something
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let go another week. It probably
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any chance of a bowl game in
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fresh pair of eyes on that defense
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it was good of Key, I
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broken there. But hey, yeah, I think you said it all too

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when you when you went over the
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frankly speechless by the end of the
game after what I saw. I understand,

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I understand completely, Jeff. I'm
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disappointing teams, Brent, and then
we'll go to the impressive team. Should

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I have expected more from Brennan Armstrong
this week at NC State because I expected

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a better offensive performance from NC State
than I did against Louisville. He just

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doesn't look comfortable, which you know, surprising given that he's you know,

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you're you know, reunited, uh, you know with this former offensive coordinator

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I am, you know, it's
it's really interesting. I mean between him

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and you know, Phil Jurkovic,
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know, maybe not outstayd had had
you know, success previously through schools.

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You know, they go to another
conference school for their fifth year, and

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it's just, you know, it's
not clicking, it's not working. I'm

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not really sure. I mean,
Brendan Armstrong just doesn't look comfortable at all.

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I I you know, we're five
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yeah, I mean, maybe something
changes. But and you know, Louisville's

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defense is not I mean, you
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but they're but they're solid, so
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expecting them to get shut out in
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to be sure. So it's really
you know, I'm very curious if they're

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going to get that ship righted and
Raleigh or not. I actually think that

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Virginia Tech has a chance to beat
NC State. I agree. I feel

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weird saying that because I didn't have
that pegged at the beginning of the year,

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and because a lot of us had
Brennan Armstrong maybe as that third team

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all acc I mean, actually we
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and it may be a lot a
lot different than we expect. Brent,

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who's your most impressive ACC team of
the way, Well, I am going

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to I'm going to go with Clemson. They've for some for reasons unclear to

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me, they've never had an easy
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the you know now JMA Wireless Stone. But they went up, they took

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care of business. I mean,
they kind of you know, they took

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an early lead and they never relented. You know, the defense looked phenomenal,

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Like they looked as aggressive as I
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least a couple of years. So
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to give credit. I mean,
you know, Kate Kubman looked he I

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think that's probably one of the best
games he's had, you know, since

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he's been a starter. So you
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jury is still out on where Syracuse
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you have to give Clemson credit.
You know, I would give an honorable

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mention to Louisville Day. It was
They're not going to gain style points for

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you know, their win and Raleigh, but they took care of business.

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Uh, you know, they fell
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they were able to put together enough
in the second half. I mean they

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smothered you know, Brendan Armstrong as
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you know, kudos to those two
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really showed up and you know,
really uh, you know, really met

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expectations. Very good, Brent,
very good analysis, Jeff, You're up

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all right, Thank you, Matthew. Brent. Which what ACC football game

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are you looking forward to the most
in Week six? This is a I

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think this is a pretty easy one
for me. I would say it has

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to be Louisville and Notre Dame.
I mean, I guess it's not you

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know, technically an ACC game,
but you know, for all intents and

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purposes, it is Louisville's five.
And oh, I mean they finally cracked

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the top twenty five. I thought
maybe they should have been a week before.

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But Louisville has shown a lot of
potential. I think we've all sort

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of known that, you know,
maybe under the center field years that Louisville

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wasn't quite meeting expectations. It feels
like they are now, you know,

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with obviously Jeff Brohm, the hometown
boy. And you know Jack Plumbers,

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you know, throws the ball pretty
well, does have a few turn a

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few interceptions. But uh, you
know, given how competitively do play Notre

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Dame last night, and you know, Frankly had a good chance. Uh

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you know, if they'd maybe made
a couple of first half you know,

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field goals and whatnot. I can
see Louisville pulling this off. I mean

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I wouldn't. I mean, I
wouldn't go sports to predict that that will

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happen. But I will not be
at all surprised if Louisville can pull that

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game out. So, you know, primetime in Louisville, it's going to

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be a sell out. You know, it's kind of good to see the

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stadium starting to fill up there.
I am really intrigued to see that game.

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And I don't know about you guys, now, very good, very

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good there, Brent Brand, Which
ACC team could be on upset alert in

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week six if they are looking ahead
to a game on our schedule or otherwise

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just sleepwalking on the field. Well, I'm going to be only sort of

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half facetious when I ask if William
and Bear William and Mary Buva if it

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would be an upset, but I'll
leave that alone. And I had actually

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thought about thought about BC, but
then I saw that Army is the favorite

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in that game. So but I
think the pretty obvious choice here is NC

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State and Marshall. Marshall is a
very capable team. They're undefeated, they're

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well coached, you know therese.
I mean, offensively, they can run

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the ball, you know, not
the best throwing team, but you know,

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they're opportunistic there. I mean their
defense it's pretty you know, pretty

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solid, not spectacular, but solid. I mean, if we you know,

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if we see another game worth you
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you know, Brandan Armstrong or other
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the offense, I can absolutely see
Marshall going in the rally and winning.

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That to me is I mean it
would you know, it would be an

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upset, but I think it is
absolutely in the realm of possibility. Okay,

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let's step out of the ACC for
a bit here, Brent. Which

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National FBS game are you looking forward
to in week six? And we're wide

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open with this question. This can
be a Power five, non Power five

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matchup. You can even have a
have an FCS matchup and then give us

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your winner of that game. So
there are a couple of games in Texas

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that I think are worth following next
week. I mean, you have if

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the Red River shootout that's going to
be I mean, I don't know how

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long it's been since both teams,
I mean, it's been several years since

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both teams have gone in undefeated.
I mean, Oklahoma seems to have,

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you know, righted the ship after
last year, after the transition year.

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It seems like maybe you know,
Texas is now at the point where you

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know, the hype is real,
and so I am very curious to see

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that. I would expect Texas to
win, maybe by a touchdown, but

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you know, but regardless, it's
just really interesting. And of course this

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is the last iteration of that game
is a big twelve before it's an SEC

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game. Next year at three thirty, you do have an SEC game.

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You have Alabama going into College Station
to play A and M. A and

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M of course is always one of
those teams that you're never quite sure what

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you're going to get under Jimbo,
and certainly the offense, uh, you

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know, with Bobby Petrino's you know, that sort of relationship is sort of

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a work in progress, but given
where, given where Alabama is right now,

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I think I think A and M
has a very good chance of pulling

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the upset. So I uh,
you know, I'm going to go on

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a limb here, and I think
A and M. A and M beats

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Bama in College station. So again, two games back to back, both

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you know, two or three hour
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should be some good football next Saturday
afternoon. All right, I like it,

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Matthew. You got a comment you
want to add. I am low

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key looking forward to Fresno State and
Wyoming. That game is gonna be on

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Fox. Oh nice, Yeah,
I like that game. Yes, and

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it's gonna be in where Wyoming in, you know, a very high elevation.

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You're gonna see a Wyoming team that
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State. I know you guys watched
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Jeff Tedford's going to be trying to
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But I don't know how well it's
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go from like Fresno in the valley
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and I see that they're favored by
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favored by six up in the games
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I mean I went through their schedule. I mean, Wyoming's had whyom

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We's had a pretty tough schedule this
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Tech in overtime. They they they
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They beat Appalachian State, They've beat
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actually think that Wyoming has a chance
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five team that gets into some sort
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how high I am on Wyoming and
how because they play such a they play

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such a ball control sort of style
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to watch. It's gonna be fun
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know exactly what Craig Ball wants to
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and smash you and smash you and
smash you, and then they'll throw in

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a play action pass and catch you
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watch, I think will be.
I will enjoy watching every second of that

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game. B do you think,
Brent, you know, my I I

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think that's I think that's a great, great call. I mean, Fresno

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State looked pretty good going into West
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for due of course, I did
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I mean Wyoming was very physical with
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ten ten at one point if I'm
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they I mean they they matched up
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They really looked the part. I
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that game out because it's You're right, it's one of those sort of low

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key matchups that I mean, it's
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little bit of a contrast and styles
too. But I'm glad you called that

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one out. Matth Jeff, You're
up brand all right, Matthew. As

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we continue on here with the podcast, Brent, you know, we're not

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far off from the halfway point of
the college football season. Unbelievable. It

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feels like it just started last week. But in your estimation, which is

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which ACC team has underperformed and who
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coach should be feeling some you know
heat there on his seat already at this

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point in the season. Well,
the underperforming team, I think pretty I

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think we're I'm guessing we're all being
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I mean they're one and four.
They just seemed to be regressing each week.

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I'm kind of confused. I mean
going into uh, you know,

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last night's game with through Virginia Tech, I mean they seemed to be pretty

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solid defensively, and I mean they
looked I mean, you know, they

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got shredded. For lack of a
better word, you know, we I

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think I mentioned, you know,
we mentioned earlier in the podcasts about you

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know, Phil Djurkovic. You know, it's just it doesn't I mean,

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he's barely you know, he's I
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passes. I mean, it just
it, you know, it just looks

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very you know, very uh you
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you know, kind of you know, concerned there. And obviously they had

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a change in offensive corners. Frank
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like a great fit so far.
There's always time to change, and obviously,

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you know, they had you know, obviously they had a great running

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game last year, which is not
carried over. So a lot of different

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factors there. But Pitt is pretty
you know, I think Pitt has been

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pretty disappointed, mean, particularly given
sort of the consistency that they had built

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up and you know, probably the
previous five or six years. You know,

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I've obviously won an ACC title,
but you know, they were always

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competing like they were sort of a
solid eight win team. And I mean,

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this team looks like it's going to
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But I'd also have to give an
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they've just not looked apart at all. I mean, again, you

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talk about actually a team very similar
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and yeah, well, I mean
if they had been a coastal team rather

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than a lack team his last few
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have been, you know, playing
against some ACC title games perhaps, but

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you know, they'd sort of developed
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sort of baseline, I guess you
would say, and and they obviously still

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could but they have looked pretty I
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so far. I mean they you
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bad Yukon team. I mean,
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mean they needed a last second field
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know, UVA, and you know
again the game, you know, Friday

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night against Louisville, they just don't
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there's time I mean, and I
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make a Bowl game. But you
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people sort of thinking that they were
going to be sort of a sleeper team

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the ACC and a look very far
from that right now. You know what

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what you know in terms of who
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we mentioned Louisville earlier, I think
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of credit there. Uh, Jeff
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obviously he's someone the alumni have been
pining for for a while, and you

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know he's delivered to date. You
know, I mean, we'll see,

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you know, even if they don't
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they're still I mean they you know, this week, they'll they would

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still be five and one and a
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you know, very good spot.
You know, they've got a pretty good

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schedule, you know, setting up
a down the line. So you have

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to give a lot of credit to
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the you know how he's reinvigorated that
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I think all of us in ACC
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all be happy that Louisville is you
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here. You know, it's better
for the ACC when you know, of

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course, you know, we always
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but when programs like Louisville are it's
selling, it's you know, it's

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it's good for the conference. You
know when we think about, you know,

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what ACC coach should be feeling,
you know, the hot seat.

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Uh, I mean, I you
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but I mean Jeff Hafley's just you
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they don't don't seem to be able
to turn the corner. Uh. Two

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years ago, it really seemed like, okay, well, you know they're

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I mean, they're never going to
be a great recruiting program or anything,

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but he definitely seemed to have some
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had say Flowers, you know,
you had your Covic and you know,

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they've had some issues on the offensive
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BC's called in card. But you
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in year four now, and it
just it just doesn't feel like it's really

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it's working out. We will,
we will, you know, you know,

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things can always change, but I
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he has to feel concerned right now
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So you know, those are kind
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and I'm certainly curious what you all
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you to follow up, Brent.
I mean, should Tony Elliott be feeling

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some heat to have for this year? Do you think at UVA? Because

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I really don't see it getting a
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I think they may actually be a
worse posis position than Virginia. Oh,

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they absolutely are. I mean,
I mean, I I I they

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are absolutely worst positioned. You know. I think something hopefully we can talk

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about for them the podcast, you
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the two schools in the Commonwealth.
But they just don't seem to have a

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lot of talent. I mean,
I'll give them. You know, they've

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played a couple of competitive games recently, you know against you know, NC

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State and you know, I mean
BC. I mean they had a lad

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and they blew it. Which but
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I don't know that these are again
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I mean they've had some opportunities for
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look at what as you know,
like where where the program was. I

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mean Bronco Mendenhall didn't leave a you
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elite, but like the program was
not in terrible shape. I mean they

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were, you know, they were
you know, they're going to bowl games

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and they were generally competitive. They
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to have been a regression and I
and you know, frankly, I mean,

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the talents just not there. I
mean, they have a quarterback who

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could you know, potentially morph into
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know, you just don't see a
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that I mean, that has to
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I just can't imagine that anything will
happen this year where he would be

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let go. But I would I
would expect he would be expected to make

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you know, several staff changes.
If you know, things kind of trip,

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you know, keep going the way
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of sad to see. I'm with
you, Sarah, I'm with you.

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go, it's open microphone time. Brandon

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doors your Well, yeah, thanks. I mean I think that's you know,

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the last question is kind of a
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something I want to talk about again. I'm a native Virginia and I went

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to Virginia Tech. But you know, despite my you know, allegiance,

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uh to the Hokies, you know, you do want to see UVA do

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well and you know, and uh, you know again, but you know

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that's you know, kind of a
struggle right now. Virginia Tech, you

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know, had a good win last
night, but you know, I don't

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think you can necessarily, you know, I think at the end of the

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season. You're not going to look
back at, you know, beating pit

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at home on a you know,
a night game on a Saturday and think

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that that was you know, a
program defining win necessarily either, but nonetheless,

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you know glad that you know things
have gone you know, well,

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that being said, you know,
Virginia Tech goes to Florida State this weekend

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and are currently a twenty five and
a half point favorite. I'm not sure

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that will that seems pretty high to
me. But nonetheless, I mean I

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think it's kind of indicative of you
know, the state of the program.

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And so you know, as I
think about you know, Matthew, I

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know you and I have had this, you of these discussions before, but

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it's just it's very unfortunate. We
were talking earlier about how it's good for

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you know, a program like Louisville
to sort of rise, you know,

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you'll raise up the perception of the
ACC. But you know, I mean

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Tech is very important in that I
mean, you know, sort of a

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traditional you know, you know,
eighteen years of nineteen seasons of you know,

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pretty high level football and you know, to have kind of seemed like

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the lack of progress is predispiriting,
not not only for Tech, but for

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UVA as well. And you know, one of you know, one of

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the concerns that I look at as
you know, when I look at recruiting

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rankings, and of course, you
know, there are a million caveats to

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those. I mean, Wake Wake
wins you know, consistently without being too

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high, and you know, so
forth, and you know, and there

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are many other examples, but it
has to be a concern when the Virginia

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Tech is currently forty first and you
know UVa's in the seventies, you know,

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and in certainly this error of the
transfer portal. You know, you

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can, you know, you can
try to plug gaps and you know,

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try to build death that way,
but it's you know, you can't,

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you can't candel that. I mean, it's kind of like trying to be

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a pro franchise and just try to
sign free agents for everything. You know,

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if you can't can't, if you
don't draft, well, you know,

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it's just not going to be sustainable
for long term. So I do

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hope to see, you know,
both programs really start to raise their recruiting

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profiles. But you know, but
but it is a concern, you know,

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here we are, you know,
early October, and you know,

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that's kind of where things stand.
It's not to say that there aren't great

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players, you know, potentially coming
in for both programs, but it does

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give you know, it does give
me a lot of pause. And you

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know, it's kind of to your
point about Tony Elliott Matthew and about you

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know, Brent Prye too, is
you know, setting aside the question of

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do you have enough talent? Is
are you doing enough with that talent?

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Are you maximizing what you have?
I don't know that I can you know,

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clearly say yes to for either program. And in a way that's almost

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like the bigger concern for you know, the way these programs are trending.

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You know, I mean, it's
a long season, but you know,

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you know, you don't see many
wins on UVa's schedule. Tech probably has

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a few more opportunities, but getting
to a bowl game at this point it's

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going to be a challenge. So
I think both programs, you know,

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after the season, are going to
have to do a lot of soul searching.

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And I'm really curious and I think, you know, it's unfortunate for

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both both programs. You know,
you have Mike Elko at Duke, who

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is just I mean, you know
last year, I mean they immediately took

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a step up, and I mean
there's a state it right now, and

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it's unfortunate when you have a program
of Duke's resources that you know presumably should

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not be doing as well that just
seems to be really taking off. So

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again, I hope to see some
movement in the Commonwealth, but you know,

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feel I feel just a bit of
pessimism right now. I'm gonna ask

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you a follow up, Brent,
because I have a questions. I have

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serious questions about this. I've I
mean, I'll be fair here. I

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have fair here a little bit.
I mean, I understand at times coaches

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have to make decisions. They see
things in pack practices that we don't as

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fans see on the football field.
But it seems to me that Kiron Drones

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has just been a far superior quarterback
for Virginia Tech over the last several weeks.

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He brings a dimension to the game
that Well has ever had in terms

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of his a his running ability,
and it seems to be that he's more

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decisive at times with his reads and
he'll just I mean he will make a

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decision to throw it. He won't
hesitate. And I think that he gives

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Virginia Tech the best best chance to
win, partly because the offensive line isn't

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as strong as it should should be. I mean, it was pretty it

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looked pretty good yesterday. I'll have
to give them a little credit. And

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they got the ball ball out pretty
quick, pretty quick yesterday. When they

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had to pass or when they had
to run, they made some you know

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something, A lot of a lot
of times they made quick, made quick

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decisions. But I actually think that
he gives Virginia Tech the best chance to

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win. And I wonder in my
mind if he had gotten more more reps,

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like perhaps in that old Dominion game, if they had won, if

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they had would have had a better
chance to win at Rukers, if they

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would have had a better chance to
win at Marshall. Because I think he

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is a better player than than than
than Wells the four as years. Brent,

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Yeah, I mean I don't think
I don't know anyone who can make

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that argument. I mean based on
in game on field performance. Uh,

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you're right, I mean we don't
necessarily see what happens in practice or what

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happens in the film room or whatever. But I think the results speak for

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themselves. You know, he definitely, I mean, there's no question he

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gives Tech the best chance to win
a game. I mean just simply by

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the fact that he can took the
ball and run. That you know,

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adds something that you know, frankly, we didn't have before. And I

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mean, you know, you know, for you know, for various reasons,

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we just don't have the strongest running
game right now. So it's an

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added dimension. So yeah, I
think it does sort of invite questions.

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You know, it's sort of reminiscent
of you know, justin Fuente, you

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know, waiting till you know,
we got blown out by Duke at home

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to you know, roll out Hendon
Hooker and you know kind of how that

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you know, how that dynamic played
out. You know, they're so those

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are the kind of personnel, you
know, decisions that sort of do raise

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questions about, Okay, you know, if who are you know, who

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are who are the best players on
the roster and you know, are we

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putting them in a position to succeed? And you know, and again,

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I you know, I think you
know, Drones has given us such a

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better chance to win. But you
know, I I I also don't want

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to overstate I I I would still
you know, I would still definitely encourage,

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you know, the Virginia Tech coaching
staff to keep an eye on the

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transfer portal and keep you know,
for the all season because you know,

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you know, competition is you know, is good and it does. Yeah,

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I think you're spot on that it
does sort of raise some questions.

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Very good, Very good. I'll
be very quick at my open microphone here.

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I'm actually really disappointed that I didn't
get to watch Washington and Arizona yesterday.

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I've I've I'm I'm. I'm a
very big fan of Michael Paenix junior,

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who plays quarterback for the University of
Washington. And I'm surprised that they

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could never actually even get a streaming
deal. And I'm talking about the PAC

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twelve here getting a streaming deal with
Xfinity nationwide. It didn't have to be

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a linear channel at all. All
they would have had to do was negotiated

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a streaming channel and they can't even
get that, and so nobody got to

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see a Heisman Trophy canon yesterday.
And that's a very distressing, probably probably

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for the PAC twelve and the college
football fan in general, because the PAC

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twelve is having the best, probably
one of the best years that they're you

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know, Jef and I have talked
about this enter prior podcast, but the

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PAC twelve is having one of the
best years is a football conference that they've

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ever had, and no nobody's able
to see perhaps a quarter of their games,

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and that that that turned out to
be a pretty good one yesterday with

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Arizona improving and their defense getting better. But but they the Huskies found a

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way to get it done on the
road. And now Oregon and Washington are

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going to be playing each other after
a bye week in Seattle. Both teams

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will be undefeated. On the fourteenth, certainly will be one that I have

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my eye on for national games that
week. Jeff, you're up open microphone.

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All right, thank you, Matthew. I want to hit my my

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open mic on what's going on with
with Notre Dame and I posted this on

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the block today and they have won
thirty straight regular season games against acc opponents.

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This reign of terror needs to come
to an end. I mean,

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it's not a good look for the
conference for uh, you know, with

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all the games there have been gained
certainly in the last two years for the

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ACC, but this is kind of
an anchor of the conference. In the

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conference with Notre Dame just you know, going out week after week playing ACC

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teams, whether they're ranked, not
ranked, whether Notre Dame is ranked,

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unranked, favorite, underdog. They
haven't lost a game to an ACC team

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in the regular season since two thousand
and seventeen. Yeah, it's that's that's

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kind of frustrating. And Duke,
Duke had an opportunity and for everything Mike

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Elko has done outstanding at Duke and
he's been out standing. He's been just

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an absolutely unbelievable coach for Duke.
He's already being talked about over a number

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of open coaching positions. And we'll
just have to kind of monitor on that.

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I was, you know, on
fourth and sixteen in that game,

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Duke had an opportunity to close out
Notre Dame and Sam Hartman had so much

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room he basically jogged to the first
down. It was one of the first

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times on that drive that Duke sat
back in a prevent ran only thrushed only

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three players, and you're just left
to wonder, why do you go away

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from what got you to that point, which was such an unbelievable defensive performance

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by Duke on that final drive,
that final play you backed off, and

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you know, not saying that if
you would have been as aggressive it you

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had been the majority of that drive, that it would have you know,

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not resulted in Sam Hartman finding a
way to get that first down. It

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still could have happened. But in
my opinion, you want to go with

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what got you there, with how
you were so disruptive during that entire game,

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especially on the defensive side of the
ball, and so do I mean

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Notre Dame just found another way to
beat an ACC team. Louisville, they

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get their opportunity that Brent mentioned earlier
prime time in Louisville ABC seven thirty.

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It's going to be one of those
environments that you know, like like you

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said, Brent, when Louisville is
good, I mean, they can really

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bring one of those environments that looks
as good as as most any in the

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ACC. I think we all remember
the two thousand and sixteen season when Lamar

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Jackson, you know, kind of
took college football by storm. I mean,

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Louisville was front and center, and
they'll have their opportunity to take down

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the Irish on Saturday. The other
games that Notre Dame has against ACC opponents

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this year, our pit, we've
talked about PIT. I think they're just

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a shell of what they've been the
last couple of years. Wake Forest probably

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still a bowl team, but they've
got, you know, a ton of

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issues on that team, struggle with
their offensive line, a little bit of

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issues on the defensive side. I
don't think, you know, in any

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way they're really equipped to take down
Notre Dame. So it's really going to

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come down to Louisville and then a
game later in November when when a Notre

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Dame goes to Clemson, you knows, as the two times that I think

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there's an opportunity for Notre Dame to
lose to an ACC team in a regular

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season. And and like Brent said, with the improvement of Kate Klubnick,

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I mean he is really coming along
as as Clemson quarterback. I mean you

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can just see him, you know, improving each each week, more confident

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in what he's doing. He's stepping
up in the pocket, his reads are

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better, he's more accurate. You
know, he still doesn't have elite speed

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to work with at wide receiver,
you know, but he's scanning the field

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better, taking off when he needs
to. Uh. You know, if

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you're a Clemson van, you're feeling
pretty optimistic because their trajectory of Clebnick is

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definitely moving in the right direction.
And we'll see if if Clemson or Louisville

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can be the team to knock off
Notre Dame in a regular season, because

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it's getting kind of irritating to watch. Actually, I had no idea,

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it had been that long. I
had no idea, And well, I

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know, you know the win before
that twenty seventeen one, No Bran I

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was there in South Bend, that's
right, must I'm sure that was a

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heck of an environment. We'll just
say, you know, and not to

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you know, go down a rabbit
hole. But it's just sort of interesting

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to think about the sort of alternate
history. I mean, Virginia Tech had

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a very good chance to beat Notre
Dame in twenty twenty one, and they

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ended up losing you know, sort
of a lay field goal after having you

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know, a touchdown lead, and
you know, it's really interesting to think

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about the alternate history if you know, Virginia Tech and one and justin Flente,

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had you know, stuck around for
another year, but definitely a conversation

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for another two. Definitely definitely,
Brent, thank you so much for joining

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us on the All Sports Discussion ACC
podcast. We love Devn you come on

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00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,079
the show anytime you want to.
I'm back. We'd love to have you

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come on again. Guys. It's
always a pleasure to be with you.

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Thank you for the invitation. I
love just hearing the conversation about the ACC

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every week and it's you know,
you know, you all do such a

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great job, so again, really
appreciate the opportunity to be with all.

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Right, have a great week,
guys. Take care, take care.
