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Hour number two here on a It's
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an opening segment that really just was
reacting to the news of Louisville included in

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the ACC SCC Challenge. I guess
for the first time. Right, this

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is the second year that this event
is happening because the yeah, the Big

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ten ACC Challenge ended two years ago, and then last year, you know,

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louisll was left out. And we'll
never know, or maybe somebody will

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inform me. And I don't say
this to act as if I've got any

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kind of inside info, but I
do believe that Louisville, because of Kittie

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Payne, didn't want to be in
the ACC SEC Challenge last year. But

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this year they're going to be in
it for the first time, and they're

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going to be taken on ole Miss
going to host them, and that gives

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them another chance to really improve their
resume in the non conference portion of their

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schedule if, of course, they
can take advantage and win. So we'll

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right, so Louisville's non conference schedule
right now, I'm going to try to

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find the and the most I would
say when it comes to these college basketball

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early you know, non you know, summer post portal, post NBA draft

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deadline rankings, there's a lot of
them out there, and the one that

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probably gets more traffic and mentioned than
any is the one that is for ESPN.

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And that's not a knock to you
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say that as if it doesn't count, because I think Jeff Borzela does a

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pretty good job. But you know, with the portal changing so much about

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college basketball, I feel like now
you could see four or five different early

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rankings in college basketball that all look
not so similar. Right, Like,

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again, it's going to be pretty
obvious. Kansas, Alabama, Yukon,

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like those are going to be your
preseason top three teams by just about everybody.

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So you know you're going to see
that. But from from really top

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after the top three, you can
you know, I think I don't want

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to say you're just guessing blindly,
but there's so much more un known as

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far as how teams are gonna go
from one year to the other because of

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the portal, right, and you
just never know. So I say all

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that to say when it when it
comes to Louisville's non conference schedule. As

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of right now, I'm looking at
ESPN's rankings, and again these are the

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work of Jeff Borzella, who again
does a good job. And right now

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I'm scrolling through here just to just
to double check. So right now Louisville

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their schedule in the non conference,
here's what we know. They're gonna play

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three non conference games against SEC teams. They'll host ole Miss and they'll host

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Tennessee and then they'll play at Kentucky
and then the Battle for Atlantis. I

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don't know who they're gonna play just
yet, the schedule's not out, but

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they're gonna play Arizona day. Well
again, I don't know who they're gonna

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play, but here's who's playing in
the event that they could end up meeting

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Arizona. Davidson, Gonzaga, Indiana, Oklahoma, Providence in what Virginia.

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So right now, according to these
rankings, Kentucky's not in the top twenty

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five according to the ESPN ranking,
but I'm sure if you look at a

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few different other rankings out there,
you'll see Kentucky feature in the top twenty

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five, maybe even I don't know, top twenty. But Tennessee's preseason number

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thirteen, and Ole Miss is preseason
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you play against, Arizona, you
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and their number nine, and they're
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got Caleb Loveback who won PAC twelve
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Davidson of course not going to be
ranked preseason. Gonzaga is a preseason top

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five team. According to Borsello,
he's got to be a number five,

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which we'll see. I mean,
I don't. I mean, mark few

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usually has good teams, and they
did come on hot last year, and

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it looked like a really down year
for Gonzaga, but once again they made

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the Sweet sixteen, and I mean
their can consistently really good again. Last

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year felt like the year where they'd
taken a massive step back. They look

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like they may not make the tournament
because when you get to January and February,

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they're in a much different situation than
a lot of other schools because they

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don't have really any big opportunities in
conference play. So I don't know if

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I think they're going to be preseason
top five, but you know they're probably

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going to be preseason top ten by
just about everybody. And they could be

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an opponent Louisville has to play in
the Bahamas, Indiana, they could play

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the Hoosiers. Indiana's in my opinion, done is good a job at anybody.

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When it comes to roster management,
they're number eighteen according to ESPN in

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the preseason, and I know the
portal it's really just about the big names,

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right going and getting a guy who's
already proven to be one of the

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best players in college basketball. Adding
him to your roster. That's as good

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as it gets when it comes to
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But I think if you really just
looked at who decided to come back

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and which guys you brought in,
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they're not going to get that kind
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make the case that Mike Woods and
Indiana did as good a job as anybody.

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I mean, they brought back everybody
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other than khalil Ware, who's going
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draft. And then in the portal
they crushed it. They got Billow from

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Arizona, who is the top ranked
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Miles Rice from Washington State, Canaan
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they brought back Malik Renew, who's
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and Baco coming into his sophomore season. So this schedule, I mean,

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unless a lot of these teams are
frauds and not nearly as good as you

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would expect, this is going to
be a very very challenging schedule for Pat

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Kelsey, which, by the way, he's going to join us tomorrow at

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three thirty, and I look forward
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things, including this schedule in year
one, and just curious to see what

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his strategy is. Right. Is
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and every year to make sure they
schedule the best teams possible or is it

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going to be based off of,
you know, who you bring back and

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experience. Right, maybe you go
a little lighter in the non conference schedule

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if you know you're going to be
younger than you would expect. So we'll

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see. But so far this schedule
right now, and again we don't know

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the entire schedule as of right now. And I'm not going to try to

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act like when you play these low
D one like not even mid majors,

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but low majors, that it's going
to be a big challenge. But Eku's

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coming off a season where they were
super competitive in their league and nearly won

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it, and you're going to host
them and morehead State, that's who you

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open up with, and you should
have no problem with them, And if

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you do, then maybe maybe you've
got big problems. But they won their

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league last year, made the NAA
Tournament, and gave Illinois a hell of

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a game in the first round.
So Pat Kelsey has a very, very

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challenging schedule in year one, and
I wouldn't have it any other way,

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and I'm sure he's going to embrace
it. But I guess only time will

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tell as far as is this is
going to be a consistent thing, and

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I hope that it is. I
really do. I hope that every year

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with Pat Kelsey here you see a
non conference schedule that gives you a bunch

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of opportunities to really make make some
early noise as far as you know,

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being a contender, not only you
know, not to win the whole thing,

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but just you know, to kind
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early on. All Right, So
the matchups in the ACC SEC Challenge,

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it seems like right now, and
again I'm just basing this off of what

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you're what I'm seeing on the Toxic
Wasteland that is, you know, Twitter,

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but a lot of folks seem to
be unimpressed with the matchups here.

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And I don't know if it's more
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great league like it used to be. Or if it's the fact that ESPN

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who by the way they decide.
I shouldn't say they have full control,

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because I'm sure the ACC and the
SEC the leagues have somewhat of a say

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so. But keep in mind,
ESPN pays for this event. This is

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this isn't a This is basically like
them having a Bowl game, right.

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This is an ESPN owned event,
meaning they own the media rights to it,

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and with their invent that they pay, you know, to put this

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on, I'm sure they want a
little bit of control as far as who

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gets to play and who doesn't,
which is why I still refuse to believe

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that Louisville was left out last year
because ESPN just decided, well, you

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know, Louisville finished last the year
before, We're not going to include them.

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I mean, even though Louisville was
awful two years ago and last year,

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it's still a game in this event
that would have given you more interest

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in viewership than when you put you
know, Boston College against somebody. So

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Louisvill's going to play Ole Miss Kentucky
is going to travel to take on Clemson,

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and I know Clemson's coming off of
an Elite eight, but I don't

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think they've got a whole lot of
momentum heading into this upcoming season. And

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I'm not trying to do that,
you know, I'm not trying to do

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the rivalry thing here and make it
a slide at Kentucky. But I'd be

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a liar if I told you I
didn't look at whoever decided, if it's

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ESPN or the SEC, whoever decided
to put these two teams together. It

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almost is one of the early signs
that like Kentucky just doesn't have the same

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sizzle as they did when John cali
Perry was there. And that has nothing

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to do with Mark Pope. I
mean, I guess in a way it

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does. I mean he's the new
coach, but like that's not Mark Prope's

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fault. Cali Perry is a larger
than life figure within college basketball. If

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Arkansas is great, mid or terrible
next year, that is still one of

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the biggest storylines in college basketball.
John cali Perry leaving Kentucky to go to

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Arkansas, so they're going to be
instantly more relevant at Arkansas, even if

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they don't have the same success that
they had with Eric Musselman. So,

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I mean, I just I can't
imagine that Kentucky would want that to be

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the matchup. And maybe I'm under
selling Clemson, but let's be real.

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They've never been relevant in any way
in basketball until last year. And even

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last year, I don't think anybody, including myself, thought they were worthy

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of any momentum or I'm sure I'm
sorry any buzz or love because they were,

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you know, a mid team in
a very down ACC. But yet

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they got hot, made it all
the way to the Elite eight, and

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you know that matters. That's a
that's a that's a big season. That's

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probably their best season in school history. But I doubt that they have that

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same kind of success next year.
All Right, so I'm going to rapid

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fire through these matchups. Arkansas will
play at Miami again, I think that's

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a missed opportunity, Like put Caliperi
in Arkansas against one of the better teams

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in the ACC. Put him against
Duke, put them against Carolina, put

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him against uh He, put him
against Florida State. Even I mean,

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I don't believe they've been bad recently, but I feel like they're more relevant

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than Miami overall. But either way, there are some that are you know,

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claiming that they're hearing, which again
I don't know. This could just

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be internet nonsense, which you know, a lot of things that people talk

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about these days I think can be
chalked up as that Internet nonsense. But

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I would totally believe it if in
fact it's true that I said I was

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about to say Kentucky that Kenny Payne
Cali Perry wanted to make it clear that

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they didn't want to see Louisville in
this event, and it would have been

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a storyline. But it really would
have been a storyline locally, like we

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would have been salivating at the thought
of Kenny Payne bringing his bomb ass back

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to Louisville as an assistant to play
against Louisville and Pat Kelcey like it would

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have been like around here. It
would have been crazy. But it may

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not even be something that those who
put these matchups together even think about,

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because again, Kenny Payne, as
far as just like results, is arguably

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the worst coach that ever coached at
Division one basketball, especially at a big

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time program. So like it would
have been a cool and I would have

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loved it, by the way,
I would have embraced it. I would

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have loved the chance to see Louisville
and Arkansas play each other. I mean

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Takenny Payn out of it. I
mean it' give you a chance to go

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up against Caliperry, and you know
I would love that. I embrace as

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a fan matchups against teams or you
have a chance to actually prove something.

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And I think Arkansas, I if
you could have played them and beat them,

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it would have done that. Now
playing Old miss also gives you a

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chance because again as I mentioned their
preseason top twenty five in year two for

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Chris Beard, all right call at
MISSOO. Nobody cares about that game.

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Florida State at LSU. I think
it's another non starter. Georgia Tech at

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Oklahoma, UK at Clemson, as
I mentioned, Notre Dame at Georgia,

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South Carolina at Boston College, Syracuse
at Tennessee, Wake Forest at a and

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M Alabama North Carolina, Auburn at
Duke pitt In, Mississippi State, Texas

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at NC State, Vandy at Virginia
Tech, and then Virginia at Florida.

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So those are the matchups, and
as I said earlier, I wouldn't be

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shocked if the SEC wins this thing
without a whole lot of trouble because their

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league is just in a better spot. I mean, I know at times

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it doesn't look you know, everybody
bases it off of what you do in

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the term, and I understand,
and I really wouldn't have it any other

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way as far as that being how
we really dictate what matters. It's what

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makes college basketball in a way awesomely
unique but also like really stupid, because

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you could have a thirty thirty win
season and if you lose in the first

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round, just about everybody involved,
fan or not a fan, is going

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to say that you didn't have a
good year. I mean, and that

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sounds insane because technically you had a
good season, but it really means nothing

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if there's not a run in March
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hope the ACC is better because that'd
be better for Louisville for sure. It's

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never good if your league stinks.
Even if you do end up taking advantage

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and winning some games, you know, it's still not going to get a

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whole lot of you know, credibility, and unfortunately that matters. Right we're

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not using computers and just flat records
to dictate who gets in the tournament and

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what seed you get based off of
humans, right, the human element,

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human beings, the committee, those
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if your league is not good,
they're not going to give you as

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much credit. And I can't say
that that's unfair. And I know we've

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talked about this before, but it
really is crazy. Ten years ago,

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the SEC as a basketball school,
as a basketball conference was I don't want

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to say a joke, but outside
of Kentucky being dominant, because again that

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was still during the early era of
Caliparia, Kentucky and they were dominant,

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but it kind of became a secondary
conversation, a secondary storyline within college basketball

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that man, Kentucky's great, but
their league sucks. It didn't mean that

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people were doubting Kentucky, but you
knew you weren't. They weren't going to

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be challenged in a major way for
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era of Calipari because the league wasn't
good. I mean, you had Florida

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with Billy Donovan still there. They
were good, and they made a couple

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final fours. I think even during
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that. And if they didn't make
a final before, they were usually pretty

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good. And then who else,
I mean, you know, Tennessee,

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Bruce Pearl got canned and they went
through a stretch where they were awful.

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I mean, who else was good. I can't really think of any school

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that was, you know, consistently
good. I mean, once Auburn got

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Bruce Pearl, took him a while
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I mean, Arkansas was really bad
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that's why when they got good under
Musselman many years later, I think people

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remembered, oh yeah, Arkansas,
they used to be pretty good in basketball.

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So it really was a league that
did not take basketball serious because they

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didn't really need to. And I
remember hearing this on a sports media podcast

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many many years ago, and I
wish I could credit who shared this,

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because it's always stood out to me. Once the SE launched the SEC network

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and they had a lot more money, right, the rich got richer,

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Somebody, probably the commissioner of the
league at the time, told these schools

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like, hey, we you have
the financial means to do so now we

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got a lot of inventory to fill
on the SEC network. It'd be best

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for everybody if these are good basketball
matchups in the league gets good viewership.

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So I'm encouraging you to invest in
basketball. And they did exactly that,

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and now the league is pretty damn
good. I mean, you could make

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the case that the SEC has the
best coaches in college basketball, and it's

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not even close. I mean,
Rick Barnes obviously, Natoates is on fire

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right now, Caliperi's still in the
league. Bruce Pearl at Auburn. I

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mean you could even throw in Lamont
Pair at South Carolina, who is just

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in his second season. I don't
think people would say he's one of the

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best coaches in the country, but
clearly they had a monster second season with

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him there. And I'm sure there's
some names. I mean, Buzz Williams.

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I don't know if I consider him
to be like an elite coach,

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but he's pretty damn good. He's
made a couple of Sweet sixteens, so

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they invested in basketball and it's paid
off because now they they're good. I

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mean Todd Golden at Florida. Some
people think he's like the next rising star

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in this I think he's like younger
than me, so it is wild to

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think ten years ago, the difference
in how this league, the SEC is

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viewed in basketball. I mean,
I'm not saying it's the best league and

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it's going to be the best league
every year, but you know, the

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Big Ten, I mean, i'd
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Now, the Big Twelve, I
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the best league in college basketball with
the dominance that you've seen from some of

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their top teams. They're gonna get
better, right Obviously with the Pac twelve

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dead Arizona, they're joining the Big
Twelve. So yeah, I wish the

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ACC was stronger. When Louisville was
making their run in the eighties with Denny

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and really kind of putting themselves on
the map, conference affiliation didn't really matter.

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You had a good run in the
Metro and even when even in Conference

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USA whenever when, and I'm biased, of course, but I feel like

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that league actually wasn't that bad in
the early stages of it when Louisville was

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there. But once Louisville got into
the Big East in basketball with Rick Patino

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here and you were consistently one of
the better teams in that league. You

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made some final fours, won a
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I mean I got spoiled as a
college basketball super fan to where I

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knew, night in and night out, Louisville was playing in the best league

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in the country and you were gonna
have opportunities at least once a week to

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really add a resume win. And
you had that initially in the ACC but

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right around twenty twenty, right around
the pandemic, it really just completely tailed

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off. And it's not to say
the league is just garbage, but I

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mean it used to be a league
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with teams that you feel I could
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and now it's I don't think that's
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Now you worry about getting five teams
in the tournament, and two of those

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five, you know, could be
playing games. All right, let's get

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to coffee and company feel my sortins
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know, I wish I was more
excited about Game three of the NBA Finals

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tonight. I mean, I'll have
it on, I'll watch. I probably

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won't be watching closely. I thought
about betting on it, but I would

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just be guessing, so I probably
won't waste any money, which, by

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the way, I am glad that
despite sports gambling being legal here in Kentucky

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for I don't know, I guess
nine months or so. Now, it's

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everywhere, right, It's in your
face. You hear about it on commercials

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on this station. There's billboards all
over town like it's it's not only accessible,

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it's in your face everywhere. And
I did worry that because I could

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get in on some action, that
I would gamble on a lot of things

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that I really don't know a lot
about And even if you do that,

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that's okay because I think most people
do it for entertainment. It's not like

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they're doing it to try to create
a side hustle and you know, become

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a millionaire. I mean, if
you are trying to do it, do

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that, then you know, good
luck to you. But I still have,

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you know, no interest in betting
on things. I know that I'm

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just guessing. And to be honest, when I bet on the sports that

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I love, college football, NFL, college basketball, I'm just guessing.

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So but it's an educated guess,
right, I keep up with those sports.

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It's fun to get, you know, lost in the building of a

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parlay er, just building a wager
and you know, thinking, yeah,

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I'm familiar with this matchup and this
team is going to have an advantage and

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the books have it wrong, this
team should be favored. You know.

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That makes it more fun for me. And at times, you know,

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I have some success. I'm way
better at betting on those sports than I

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am when I just take a wild
guess at you know the NBA, and

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I you know, I know enough
about the NBA, like I can tell

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you the personnel, like I you
know, it's not like I know nothing

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about it. When it comes to
sports, I know nothing about that space

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ball. But yeah, with the
NBA, I'm just I find it to

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be a very very difficult league to
be profitable when it comes to betting.

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Now, maybe that's just because I
suck at it. I'm sure there are

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many out there that bet on the
NBA and they do well, but I

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feel like a lot of folks,
at least the ones that I know,

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that really get into betting on the
NBA, it's really just player props.

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Which I could see that being fun
and that could, but I just have

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regardless if it's college basketball or if
it's NFL or player props have just never

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really done it for me. I
mean, I've bet on player props before

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and had some success, but you
know, it's just everybody has their own

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preference and style when it comes to
wagering. Everybody wants to win, but

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I guess everybody has their own way
in which they feel like they have the

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best chance of winning. But anyways, tonight we do have Game three,

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which yesterday, if you are,
you know, not a baseball fan,

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tough day for you when it comes
to live sports. So no NBA playoff

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game yesterday, no Stanley Cup playoff, no NCAA events of any kind,

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and not even an MLS game if
you're into soccer. So June is usually

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where it really just kind of hits
you right in the face if you're somebody

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like myself that is waiting impatiently for
college football to get here, because to

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me, that's when a new calendar
year really starts when it comes to sports,

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because you got the overlap right college
football then NFL and NBA, then

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college basketball, and then you ride
it all the way till till early April.

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And even though we haven't had games
for a while in college basketball,

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man, the Portal has given us
a free agency season that really I think

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extends college basketball as far as being
in the conversation nationally. I know we

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talk about it probably more than most
because we love college basketball around here,

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but I do think that's been a
real big benefit of and I said it

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once we found out all the guys
that are coming back to college basketball this

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current season, right once the deadline
hit, and you saw the amount of

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really good players that were very effective
and successful in college last year and even

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years before that. When you look
at somebody like Hunter Dickinson. And maybe

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this is my bias towards college hoops, but I feel like there's no sport

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that's benefited from the portal more as
far as just being a little more attractive

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to those because of the off season
acquisitions, right free agency. All right,

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So I don't watch baseball, and
I think a lot of you that

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listen know this, but I do
wish I was watching live, not only

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on television. I wish I would
have been there yesterday for the Guardians Reds

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game, because there was something that
happened that had nothing to do with baseball

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that has become a viral story,
and that is a young fan who made

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his way onto the field and of
course, as you could expect, he

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was being chased down by law enforcement
a not just not a security guard,

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but a cop who had a taser. And he got on the field and

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did a backflip, only to then
be tasted, arrested, and a lot

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to unpack here. If you haven't
seen the video, I would encourage you

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go check it out. I'm a
little impressed with the nineteen year old kid

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who was able to not only get
out there and get all the way to

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the middle of the field without being
apprehended, and then stop and do a

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full backflip, like, let me
just double check here. I'm pretty sure

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I'm gonna replay. Obviously there's no
sound for you guys, But yeah,

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he came to a full stop then
did a backflip. I think, you

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know, gymnasts and cheerleaders would call
that a back tuck. And he did

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it successfully and then of course made
it about ten yards before he was taken

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to the ground with a taser.
And I mean, I don't encourage anybody

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to run on the field in any
sport, or run on the court or

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you know, streak like we've seen
at times, like you just shouldn't do

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that because you know, you look
like I mean, you're you know,

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you don't have a right to be
on the field just because you bought a

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ticket, like there's nothing for you
to gain. But I do know why

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idiots do it. There's no consequence. I mean, this nineteen year old

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kid, he knew he was gonna
I mean, he probably did it because

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he knew the attention that he would
receive. But he's nineteen. He doesn't

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care. He's not thinking about when
people google his name in five years when

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he's looking for a career, they're
going to find out that he's the idiot

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that ran on the field and did
a backflip and then got taste. And

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the consequence, as far as legally, is minimal. These are two misdemeanor

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charges that he received, so like
he probably didn't mean did it he even

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get arrested or did this get like
a citation? And was he told he

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had to go to court? Like
it's still going to be like a criminal

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offense and he's going to have to
go to court and face a judge and

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whatnot. But like they really don't
make it to where you learn the hard

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way that you know, I think
the learning that this young man's probably going

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to have his years down the line. He's going to think, man,

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why did I do that? I
was such an idiot. But he's nineteen.

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He was probably drunk as buddies thought
it would be cool, so he

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did it. And the cop I
mean, there's a great, great picture

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that Andy Lyons, who you may
know the name Andy Lyons is a photographer

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for Getty Images. And I don't
know if Andy lives in Louisville, but

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I know he has done photography for
Getty Images for Louisville basketball and Louisville football

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for many, many, many years. And he was there at the Reds

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game yesterday and he got a great
picture that you should check out if you

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have and if you just google this
story, you'll probably see it. But

408
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the picture of the cop letting him
finish the backflip before shooting the taser,

409
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it makes me, really, I'm
impressed with this law enforcement officer. I

410
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assume he's a cop. I mean, he's got a taser, and it

411
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looks like he's wearing an actual police
uniform, but it's a little different than

412
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your typical uniform, probably because you
know he's working this event. But he

413
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.680
could have easily tased this kid mid
flip and it probably would have been something

414
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:10.079
that he would have been justified in
doing, but it might have killed the

415
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:15.480
kid, right like you get tased
mid backflip with your neck and your head

416
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.200
facing down your I mean, I've
never been tased, thankfully, Rick,

417
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.599
have you ever been tasted? Never? Okay, good to know. I

418
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.039
don't want to be tased, how
about you. I'd like to not be

419
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.119
tased the rest of my life,
right, so I would imagine though just

420
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.519
guessing here that when you're tased like
you probably lose all like, you probably

421
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:41.279
go limp and you might fall and
break your neck and die. And again

422
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.480
that would have been a disastrous situation. It would not have been warranted for

423
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.799
this man to this young man to
lose his life. But look heat of

424
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.640
the moment. This officer's out there
trying to get this kid, and the

425
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.039
taser is gonna be what takes him
down because he's not stopping, he's not

426
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.400
giving himself up. And there's a
great picture of what you know, I

427
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:02.759
can't read his mind, but this
still makes it look as if the cop

428
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.799
was about to pull the trigger on
the taser and he realized, okay,

429
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.799
I might kill this kid. I
probably don't want to do that, so

430
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:14.039
he waits for him to land,
only to then perfectly tase him. And

431
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.359
it looks like something out of a
movie. And the video is just video

432
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.359
from people who were there using their
phone, so it doesn't look good.

433
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:26.160
But the HD four K photos here
that we have from Andy Lyons of Getty

434
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:34.319
Images are really really well done.
So again you're going to continue to see

435
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.319
this happen, and it look it's
harmless for the most part. Like,

436
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.359
if you were out there naked,
you're a complete jerk because there's children that

437
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.880
are there, like, you're just
a You're a sicko if you do that.

438
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.440
But you know, young night,
I mean heck, maybe even a

439
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.000
teen maybe even teenagers. There aren't
even adults have done it, I'm sure,

440
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.920
but it's going to continue to happen
because there's not there's really not a

441
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.200
big consequence for it. And the
consequence that is there is not something that

442
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.160
people that are you know, of
that age. I mean some, I'm

443
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:04.759
sure there are plenty of people that
are nineteen years old like this kid,

444
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.960
that are mature and realize that would
be a really big mistake. I don't

445
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.160
want to get arrested. I don't
want to go viral for being, you

446
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:17.079
know, an idiot. But there's
many others that age that don't think that

447
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.200
deeply because you know, they're probably
drunk at a baseball game with their friends.

448
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.440
And yes, he's not legally allowed
to drink, but I'm sure there

449
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.359
was some alcohol involved here. I
don't know that for certain, but I'd

450
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.319
be shocked if this nineteen year old
was stone cold sober when he decided to

451
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:37.720
run on the field. Also,
it's happened from time to time. But

452
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:42.279
if you run onto any any field
or core, like if you run onto

453
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.039
the floor in an NBA game,
or you run on the field in an

454
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.359
NFL game, or like this young
man, you run on a field at

455
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:53.279
a baseball game, or it could
be college football or college basketball, and

456
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:59.240
you know, one of these superhuman
athletes, especially if we're talking like the

457
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:04.119
NFL, if they decide to help
out security, law enforcement and take you

458
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.680
out, like that should be allowed, Like it should be Why don't we

459
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:14.880
just let the officer casually stroll over
to you know what might be a dead

460
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.640
body. I mean, I'm exaggerating. I'm not saying these people should be

461
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:22.279
killed, but I do kind of
wish it was just it was just a

462
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.319
known thing that if you're out there
on the field in an NFL game as

463
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:29.559
a player and you've got a knucklehead
running on the field, you know,

464
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:35.200
collectively somebody take his ass out,
because, by the way, there'd be

465
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.480
a bigger ovation for that than just
people cheering. Somebody who you know,

466
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.880
made their way to the field and
got past security and you know, is

467
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.960
having fun. But it didn't happen
very often, and I think it was

468
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.640
in the pac twelve one of the
schools up there in the Pacific Northwest.

469
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.680
It might have been Washington State or
Oregon State. Years ago, there were

470
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.000
kids that stormed the field and I
think it was a little premature, and

471
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:07.480
they were running, you know,
running towards the field as players of the

472
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.000
losing team were running off the field
to go to the locker room, and

473
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.200
you know, you're just going to
cross paths. And there was a player

474
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:15.240
who I'm sure he knew what he
was doing, but it wasn't like you

475
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.480
went out of his way to to
you know, assault somebody, but he

476
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.079
basically trucked over a student who was
running on the field as he was running

477
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.200
off the field, and that student
end up filing a lawsuit, and you

478
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.200
know, it just makes it even
more I mean, people, look,

479
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.279
fans should never be on You're not
part of the entertainment. You don't you

480
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:35.240
don't have, you don't have a
right to be on the field court whatever

481
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.279
it may be. And if you
do that, you know, actually to

482
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:44.480
be honest with you, when it
comes to the you know, misdemeanor,

483
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.480
very minor charges that you get from
doing that, unless you of course,

484
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:51.160
you know, again I think it's
different if you're out there streaking, but

485
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.000
if you just run on the field
again. This kid got charged with two

486
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.759
misdemeanors. I don't know the actual
charges, but they were not serious.

487
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.279
I actually think the bigger consequence that
could happen is to just, you know,

488
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.079
have one of these professional athletes,
regardless of what sports they play,

489
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:07.559
they just take you out. That
would probably be the most severe punishment that

490
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.239
you could actually get, and maybe
you would really enjoy the attention you get

491
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.199
from it, or maybe you would
actually learn your lesson at that point and

492
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.719
you'd say, yeah, probably shouldn't
do that again. But if you haven't

493
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.920
seen these pictures, I'm actually gonna
tweet a couple of them out because they

494
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:27.360
are I mean talk about getting the
right shot at the right time. And

495
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.639
you can see whatever comes off the
taser, like the you know, the

496
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.880
the string or whatever it is that
has the actual whatever it is that tases

497
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:42.440
you on it. I mean the
visual here of this officer, the look

498
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:49.039
on his face and the kid realizing, uh oh, like I've got you

499
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.039
know it's happening. I'm getting electrically, I mean basically getting electroccuted. It

500
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.920
seemingly it's it's just it's art,
is what it is. It's art.

501
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.320
All right, quick break, we'll
come back on the other side. We

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00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:01.960
will wrap up the four o'clock hour. Keep this thing rolling along. Get

503
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.559
to the text line. Some good
questions coming in, some comments coming in

504
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.159
about basketball. We'll get to those, and again we're with you till six

505
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:23.199
o'clock. So hang out right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety. Now back

506
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:29.199
to Coffee and Company, fueled by
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507
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.599
That's right, Coffee and Company wrapping
up hour number two here on a Wednesday

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00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.880
afternoon. We are fueled about Thornton's. Certainly appreciate our friends over at Thornton's.

509
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:42.519
My name's Nick Coffee Radio. Rick's
got us rocking here on a Wednesday.

510
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.960
Good stuff. Rick, I just
feel like you're in there shred this

511
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.760
guitar solo right now. It's just
I just want all the listeners to visualize

512
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.559
that, because that's that's the kind
of vibe Rick brings to the table.

513
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.679
I'm an old rocker, Nick,
that's right. I love it. Wouldn't

514
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.599
have it any other way, all
right, So real quick, let's go

515
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.559
to the text line. Not a
whole lot of time left as we wrap

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00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.519
up the four o'clock hour, So
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account today at LNFCU dot com.
This Tex says Nick, is the Louisville

520
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.559
Memphis series really happening. Haven't seen
anything official, but I did see someone

521
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:22.440
share it in one of the Louisville
Facebook groups. Yeah, I wouldn't believe

522
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.000
everything you see in a Facebook group, although I find myself at times getting

523
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:30.280
lost in Facebook groups, not those
that are about Louisville Athletics, but just

524
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.679
you know, like my neighborhood group. I'm from Bullet County and there's a

525
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.800
lot of different Bullet County Facebook groups
out there that I'm kind of a quiet

526
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.800
member of. I've never posted or
commented, but I just like to just

527
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.559
look at the drama. So yeah, I don't know what Facebook group you're

528
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.400
referring to. But Brian Clolehman,
pat Kelsey's top assistant coach, was on

529
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:55.360
a podcast I believe, yesterday and
mentioned they're trying to get a home,

530
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.079
and they're trying to get a series
set up with Memphis. It won't happen

531
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.119
this year, of course, but
they're working on getting Memphis on the schedule

532
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:07.119
for not just one year. But
I think Memphis they've got somebody who covers

533
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.079
their program that kind of confirmed that
this is something that is in the works.

534
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.960
They want to potentially do a home
and home where Louisville will host Memphis

535
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.440
and then play Memphis, and they'll
have a neutral side game in Nashville,

536
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.239
which could be a lot of fun. Yeah, Memphis, You know Memphis.

537
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.239
Of course, there's a lot of
history between Louisville and Memphis, one

538
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.159
of Louisville's longest standing rivals in basketball. Didn't feel like it as much anymore.

539
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.280
And I'll be honest with you as
someone my age, you know,

540
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.760
when Louisville and Memphis played during my
childhood, you know, there wasn't as

541
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.639
much hatred there, right at least
not that I can remember. I mean,

542
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:43.599
I remember Calipari at Memphis and the
battles that Louisville and Memphis had during

543
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.360
that time. But the real,
you know, the roots, if you

544
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:52.159
will, of the Louisville Memphis rivalry
that was long before I was around.

545
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.679
But yeah, since we talked a
lot of basketball scheduling today, no doubt

546
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:59.559
I would love to add Memphis.
I mean, they're still in the American

547
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:05.920
which for unfortunately that league continues to
get gutted as expansion has taken place.

548
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:07.960
A lot of the other you know
teams I guess that you would say are

549
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.440
somewhat similar to Memphis. They've been
able to move on from the league,

550
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.000
whereas Memphis is still stuck there.
But look, if Penny's there, they'll

551
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:21.400
always have some level of relevance and
some talent because he brings talent in.

552
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.400
So yeah, I've I'd love that. I'd love that kind of matchup.

553
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:28.079
I mean, again, I know
it's it's really how a lot of these

554
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:34.119
programs at the low D one levels
survive getting a check to go play some

555
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:38.320
of these teams that have you know, twenty thousand seed arenas. There's a

556
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:42.079
reason they call them a bye game, and if you know you blues a

557
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.519
by game, it's a bad look, which Louisville has lost a few of

558
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:49.519
them in recent years. But I
just you know, I if I'm going

559
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.360
to look at it from just a
pure entertainment standpoint as a college basketball fan,

560
00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:00.199
I would love every game to feature
a team that is not of the

561
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.880
lower level of D one. I
mean, you don't need three hundred and

562
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.360
sixty five teams in the Division one
level, and there's no benefit to playing

563
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.840
those teams. And anyway, I'd
love for somebody to tell me the benefit

564
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:16.320
of playing UNBC. You're not learning
a lot about your team. You may

565
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.039
blow them out, but it doesn't
really mean anything. If they stink.

566
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.159
You could end up playing them closer
than you feel like you should. Because

567
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:28.760
again I talk about this all the
time. You can tell yourself, hey,

568
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.400
I'm gonna treat this as if we're
playing the ninety seven Bulls and we're

569
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:35.400
gonna come out and compete, but
you know, deep down like you're not.

570
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.760
You can lie to yourself, but
eventually the human element kicks in and

571
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:42.000
you realize you're playing a team that
you know you could probably coast a little

572
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.320
bit and still win big. The
only benefit would be is that you get

573
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.800
a chance to actually, you know, work out some things, maybe you

574
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.559
know, try to, you know, work out new lineups, give young

575
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.000
guys some some real reps in games
that you know are not close. Because

576
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.599
you're blowing them out, but there
have been example of teams who schedule terribly

577
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.960
in the non conference and it keeps
them out of the tournament. So yeah,

578
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:07.119
I hope they get Memphis on the
schedule. Don't know when that will

579
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.000
happen or if it's actually going to
but it sounds like that is something they

580
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:15.519
are they're working on. Let's see, let's do this again. Another very

581
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.880
quick segment here, but I want
to make sure we have as much time

582
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.239
as possible in the five o'clock hour
because there's a lot of when to get

583
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:22.840
to, including more of your texts
that have come in on the Ellen and

584
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:30.199
Federal Credit Union text line. We
now have a I guess an official breakdown

585
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:35.039
of this new NIL multi team tournament
that's going to take place in Vegas in

586
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:37.400
college basketball, and I have a
feeling that you're going to see multiple tournaments

587
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.360
like this pop up in years to
come, and I don't want to act

588
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.960
as if this is going to be
a big topic of conversation. However,

589
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.199
I believe the first state. There
could be other states that have done this,

590
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.039
but I haven't seen it yet,
but Illinois, I believe, is

591
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.199
the first state that is going to
introduce a shot clock in high school basketball,

592
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.800
and I have strong thoughts on that, So again we'll keep it rolling

593
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along. One more hour to go. Again, it is coffee and Company,

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and we are Field by Thornton's right
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