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Ben is our producer. 10 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:12.560 You can chat with Ben at Meyer's Hotline eight six six eight three eight 11 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:18.680 forty eight forty three. That's eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty 12 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:22.760 three. When I think of Meyer, I think a couple things. First 13 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:25.840 of all, the tenth Daniel Meyer Classic that's coming up in the middle of 14 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:32.200 June thirteenth through the sixteenth at Blyichfield Country Club. Nellie Korda has won that 15 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:38.359 championship before you know, and I think of their great produce and their great 16 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:46.359 meat department. So head to Meyer and get everything you need for your refrigerator. 17 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:52.640 I no inflation's taking place, but at Meyer, the costs are there 18 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:59.280 to help your budget. So head to your local Meyer and head to the 19 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:02.840 Meyer hotline eight six eight three eight forty eight forty three. In the past, 20 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:10.400 I have heard you loud and clear complain about the load management phrase that 21 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.800 is oftentimes associated with one sport, the NBA. I'm sure it happens in 22 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:22.240 hockey to a certain extent, we just don't hear them talk about it as 23 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:27.800 much hockey. You know, you're you're a dressing what twenty five guys, 24 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:38.280 and you're able to The game almost dictates the load management because sometimes coaches are 25 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.719 going to roll their top two lines at the end of a game late in 26 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:46.080 the third to try and make sure they get the game equalizer. You're going 27 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:51.680 to have powerplay guys, You're gonna have penalty kill guys. There are certain 28 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:57.240 players Dylan Larkin for Detroit, most Cider for Detroit who are going to play 29 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:06.719 in every situation. So the game itself kind of dictates the load management Rarely 30 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:10.319 do you see, if ever, a high end player for a hockey team 31 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:17.120 dressing street clothes because the coach says he's getting the day off. You do 32 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:23.599 find that in basketball, for whatever reason, they have chosen to do that, 33 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:28.639 and for certain teams it's worked, right, then they're going to continue 34 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:31.719 to do that. Well. In baseball, they're starting to do that now 35 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:39.759 too, And a lot of it has to do with analytics. The analytics 36 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:47.000 of baseball is taking over if it hasn't already a front office near you. 37 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:55.520 It doesn't mean every manager uses analytics to make out their lineup or make a 38 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:02.479 pitching change, but it is part of the process. I believe the best 39 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:10.639 managers marry the two together. They marry their instincts and they marry the analytics. 40 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:16.199 I know we move forward in our society, not just in sports society, 41 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:26.839 but in society in general taking advantage of technology. You should. It's 42 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:34.079 kind of stupid not to. Life is one big baseball game. If you've 43 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:40.720 got or one big sporting event, if you have the technology to improve the 44 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:46.680 game, use it. How those leagues choose to use it. It still 45 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:53.240 baffles me sometimes, you know, like baseball, if you've got the technology, 46 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:58.079 Then why isn't everything reviewable? Right? But whatever I digress, I 47 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.240 get the same sense you know in life, if you've got the technology, 48 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:06.240 use it. So Baseball is using their technology that's available to them, and 49 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:15.720 part of that technology ways the amount of time players are exuding energy. And 50 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:23.160 knowing that Major League Baseball plays more games than any other sport twice as many 51 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:29.920 as baseball, or twice as many as basketball or hockey, then why wouldn't 52 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:35.040 baseball use that type of technology fair enough? And let's face it, it 53 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:42.279 is easier to rest a guy in baseball than other sports. He's getting a 54 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.040 day off because they're playing every day. You've played nineteen straight games. You 55 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.199 want to give a certain guy a day off, go ahead, or make 56 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:54.120 him the DH get him off his feet. A little bit happens all the 57 00:05:54.160 --> 00:06:02.800 time. They just don't use the phrase load management. It is creeping into 58 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:11.120 the language of more and more front offices, and it's trickling down to managers, 59 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.759 coaches and players as well. Here's where I think it's coming from. 60 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:29.759 I think it's coming from trainers. What I've noticed over the past number of 61 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:41.439 seasons in calling games is that those trainers are so heavily involved with a player. 62 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.040 Think about it, player gets injured, trainer comes out, or any 63 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:49.000 type of nick, any type of awkward swing. Trainers sees it, they 64 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:56.759 dart out of the bult dugout to talk to the player. Managers and coaches 65 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.480 are talking to trainers on a regular basis. I'm sure that happened before two. 66 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:08.879 But in the end, Bobby Cox was making his decision, he was 67 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:15.720 consulting the trainer. But I think more and more managers now are using them 68 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:20.480 as that sounding board and a big reason on why they may be making a 69 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:30.160 decision. Bobby Cox could manage without analytics. Sparky Anderson managed without analytics. 70 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:39.000 Joe Torre managed without analytics. Tendencies is one thing. Analytics is totally different. 71 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.279 These guys were all really good. I don't care if it's Whitey Herzog 72 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.480 or Dick Williams, you name it, Ralph, Billy Martin. Back in 73 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:57.879 the day it worked. The game's evolved, the information has gone deeper, 74 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.560 and it's probably a good thing. But baseball, more than any other sport, 75 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:15.040 because it's a regular basis, is a rhythmic sport. You get in 76 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:22.040 a groove offensively, you want to stay in the lineup every day. Players 77 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:28.800 used to take a great deal of pride when it came to their availability, 78 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:39.279 and I think certain members of that baseball society still do. When you look 79 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.919 up the players who have played the most games, it's not just longevity and 80 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.240 how long they played the sport, but also how much they were available every 81 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:56.360 year to play the sport. Pete Rose, Carl Yastrensky, Hank Aaron, 82 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:03.840 Ricky Henderson, Albert Poolhols, Eddie Murray, Stam Musil, Willie Mays, 83 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:09.639 cal Ripkin Junior. I can go on and on and on, Barry Bonds. 84 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:16.159 It wasn't that long ago when guys like Yvonne Rodriguez was playing, was 85 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:22.200 it. Adrian Beltree didn't retire that long ago, nor did Albert Pools, 86 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:28.279 and yet Beltray and Pools are in the top fifteen in games played. Why 87 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:37.080 Because they were available every single year. They were playing regularly one hundred and 88 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:43.559 fifty five to one hundred and sixty two games a year. They took pride 89 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.279 in it. I'm not saying players don't take pride in it now. I 90 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:54.000 think there's a lot of players who want to play. But look at Adrian 91 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.840 Beltray's record, one fifty two, one fifty nine, one fifty eight, 92 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:05.279 one fifty six, one fifty six, one sixty one out there every day. 93 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.639 Meyer hotlines open for you. Eight sixty six, eight three, eight 94 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:13.159 forty eight forty three. We're back with more exes and bros. In a 95 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:18.519 moment huge here for my good friends from Flying Ace Whiskey. Now it's an 96 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:24.399 American made whiskey bottled right here in our great state of Michigan. 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Get your tickets now at Meyer LPGA Classic dot com 113 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:07.240 eighteen after the hour. Welcome into Exus and Bros. Matt Sheppard with you 114 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:11.159 here throughout the morning Ben as our producer. We will be joined by Colton 115 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.240 Pouncey, the Athletic Lions writer at eight thirty five. Looking forward to that. 116 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:22.000 Also looking forward to monitoring the PGA Championship that begins here this morning. 117 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:30.159 In fact, folks have already teed off. The first trio is sewn Michael 118 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:39.440 Luke, Donald m Michael Block. Most will be kind of monitoring the eight 119 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:46.639 o'clock hour where Tiger Woods plays with Adam Scott and Keegan Bradley. Nobody thinks. 120 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.919 Nobody thinks tiger Wood Tiger Woods is going to come close to winning this, 121 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.519 right, Okay, because I didn't think so either. The eight to 122 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:01.960 fifteen tea time has Justin Rose, Dustin Johnson, and Rory McElroy big names, 123 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:13.399 but only McElroy is playing really good golf. Jordan Spieth plays with Brooks 124 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:22.240 Koepka and Max Homa at eight thirty seven. Now that is a trio I 125 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:30.000 would follow. That's the one for me anyway, that would catch my eye 126 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.399 and want me to all right, that's how I'm gonna I'm gonna walk with 127 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.799 them throughout the entire round. I've been to golfing events like. My hope 128 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.879 is that plenty of people are are going to head to, you know, 129 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.799 the Blackfield Country Club June thirteenth through the sixteenth of the tenth Anniel Meyer Classic. 130 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:56.480 Walking an entire course just watching guys hit is kind of challenging. It's 131 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.720 a tough debate. Do you do you walk with that trio or that group 132 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.080 or do you want to stay on one hole and see how everybody just kind 133 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:13.360 of approaches that hole. The one point fifty one team time is pretty cool. 134 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.320 That's when I like calin Marka a lot. So it's more Coleen, 135 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:24.639 Matt Fitzpatrick and Phil Mickelson, Ricky Fowlers playing with John Rahm and Cameron Young, 136 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:31.840 Scotty Scheffler is teeing off with Brian Harmon and Wyndham Clark. That's a 137 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:37.480 really good one. Although Brian Harmon, especially with young folks, Brian Harmon 138 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:45.759 is not a fan favorite by any stretch. He takes forever and it's not 139 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.759 like he's talking with his caddie setting stuff up. It's it's him and his 140 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:56.559 waggles that just drive people absolutely crazy. Anyway, they're often running there at 141 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.679 Valhalla. That track is only seven six d and nine yards. Oh is 142 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:07.240 that it? Yeah? Huh, it's amazing. We were talking about load 143 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:20.120 management specifically and how it's creeping into baseball, and I wonder how old school 144 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:26.279 managers start to feel about this because they want I mean, it's their their 145 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:31.440 jobs are on the line. They want their everyday players more than just about 146 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:39.600 any other sport. Baseball. Really good teams I'm talking about challenging teams are 147 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:48.159 putting their lineup together every single day. Aaron Boone's driving to the ballpark for 148 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:54.200 the Yankees and he's like, I'm good man. I know that Aaron Judge 149 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.399 is playing. I know that Juan Soto's playing. I know that Anthony Rizzo's 150 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:04.039 playing. I know that Anthony volpi is playing. He knows Alex Verdugo's playing. 151 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:11.960 He knows his guys, his everyday players, and it's paying off for 152 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:17.759 him. Right. That's the way it works. That's the good news. 153 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:19.799 If you're a really good team, you have everyday players. That's a big 154 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:25.919 reason why New York right now might be twenty nine and fifteen. You don't 155 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:33.120 think the Phillies a big reason for their success. The primary reason they lead 156 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:38.879 the league in wins is because Nick Castianos, Alec Baum, Kyle Schwarber, 157 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:45.559 Bryce Harper, jt Rila, Muto, Trey Turner, Bryce and Stott and 158 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:51.480 Brandon marsh are playing every single day. Now, you're gonna give really Muto 159 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:57.120 a day off because he's the catcher. But that team, I'll give you 160 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:04.119 an example here. That team, the Philadelphia Phillies. I told you they've 161 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:10.200 got thirty one wins, more than anybody else in baseball. New York's got 162 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.720 the most in the American League with twenty nine. The Dodgers have twenty nine. 163 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:18.119 The Phillies are thirty one and thirteen. So they have played forty four 164 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:23.440 games. Castianos has played in every one of them. Bowem has played in 165 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.000 forty three of them. Schwarver has played in forty two of them. Harper's 166 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.920 played in thirty nine. He was nicked up a little bit. Relamuto the 167 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:37.519 Catcher's played in thirty five of the forty four. Bryson or Brandon marsh rather 168 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.039 has played in thirty eight. Bryson Scott has played in thirty nine. You're 169 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:52.680 damn right every single day. Those are your everyday players. Rob Thompson is 170 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.599 as happy as a pig, and you know what, because that's what he 171 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.880 is getting. He's got his guys playing every single day. Dave Roberts, 172 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:07.480 Mookie Betts, Shoe Otani, to Oscar Hernandez, Freddie Freeman, Will Smith, 173 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:12.400 Max Munsey and Go Gavin Lux They're all playing forty games or more. 174 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:22.240 And the Dodgers so far this season have played forty five games. Of those 175 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:26.519 guys I mentioned, Max Munsey's played forty. That's the fewest. What Will 176 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.319 Smith played thirty eight, But Will Smith's catcher, so you're gonna get him 177 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:38.240 a day off once in a while. Mentally as much as physically. Those 178 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:42.559 what the best teams do. The load management might be for teams that just 179 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:51.000 don't know who they have. They don't have good players. Look at the 180 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:57.720 teams that are leading their divisions and look who's playing on an everyday basis. 181 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:11.480 Cleveland Guardians lead the division. Jose Ramirez has missed two games. Andre Semenez 182 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:18.839 has messed three games. Josh Naylor has missed two games. They're gonna play 183 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:23.799 every Stephen Kwan is injured, but he still played thirty two so far. 184 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:36.039 Brian Rochio for crying out loud their shortstop every single day. Maybe the mindset 185 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:41.480 will change. Maybe I'm the one who's living in the past way too much, 186 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:48.079 but I think in baseball you need everyday guys. They're used to it. 187 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.759 Here's what people aren't taking it. It'd be silly for me to say 188 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:57.519 that. Of course, they're taking load management into account in other sports. 189 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.799 Basketball, folks, if you're not playing, your practicing hockey. If you're 190 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:08.759 not playing, you're practicing rarely do you get to get a day off, 191 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:14.079 you got a morning skate. More and more coaches are doing away with that, 192 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.559 by the way. They just don't feel like it's necessary. They'll come 193 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:21.039 in, they'll get some cardio in, let's say running or whatever. They'll 194 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:26.200 get a lift in, perhaps they'll get some treatment. But sometimes they're a 195 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:27.839 lot of guys. John Tortrello is a good example of it. Just they 196 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:34.319 don't believe in the morning skate anymore. The philosophy is individually, but it's 197 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.640 also changing a little bit. So maybe it's changing in baseball. But those 198 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:47.599 people are still getting their body loose, they're still getting their cardio in baseball. 199 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:55.720 Those guys are playing every day, so they're not practicing. I don't 200 00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:02.880 think the load management works in baseball. I think guys are the way they 201 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:07.720 have grown up, college baseball, travel teams. They're playing year round. 202 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:17.240 Their body thrives on it, craves it. Sometimes the technology can be too 203 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:23.039 much. Colton Palzi, the Athletic Lions writer, will join us at eight 204 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.920 thirty five. We've got techs and your phone calls on the Meyer hotline eight 205 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.960 sixty six, eight three, eight forty forty three. 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Welcome Ex's and bros. 223 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:25.319 Don't forget many of these same great station affiliates. The Huge Show Monday 224 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:30.599 through Friday from three until six. My good friend Bill Simonson giving you huge 225 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:36.440 opinions on many of the things that we're talking about. Colton Pouncey of The 226 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:41.519 Athletic follows the Lions, writes about the Lions, tweets about the Lions. 227 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:47.599 You can follow him on Twitter Colton Underscore Pouncy and he will join us at 228 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:52.680 eight thirty five to talk about the Lions' schedule, the Jared Goff contract extension 229 00:23:52.880 --> 00:24:00.079 and more. Tiger is a loser yesterday to nothing. That means say they 230 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.240 haven't scored a run in the last nineteen innings. Casey Mice was really good. 231 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:11.200 You can't expect him or any pitcher to be perfect. Giving up two 232 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:18.799 runs in a game. And I know it was the first inning, understood, 233 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:25.440 and I get that it was two batters deep, you get an infield 234 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:30.920 single, and you get a home run. But Casey Mice gave up two 235 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:37.559 flipping hits, allowed three base runners because he walked one. He struck out 236 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:44.359 six. He threw ninety pitches, sixty one of them for strikes. He 237 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:52.640 deserved better. His offense stinks. They can't score. At one point, 238 00:24:53.480 --> 00:25:02.240 Mice retired eleven in a row. Eighteen of nineteen Tigers hitters. Well, 239 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.759 not much to brag about there. Anybody have a multi hit game? Yeah, 240 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:15.000 Carson Kelly batting ninth, went three for three. The one through six 241 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:21.279 hitters were two for eighteen. As a team, Detroit left ten on base. 242 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:30.400 They advanced a runner in scoring position just twice. So Miami wins that 243 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:37.440 series fewest wins in baseball thirteen. They just beat you two out of three. 244 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.880 You know me, I'm not a huge home field advantage guy, but 245 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.880 they did beat you at home. That makes it even worse. To compound 246 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:52.119 the issue, Trevor Rodgers, who started and got the victory from Miami, 247 00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:03.960 had an era going into that game of eight point five to seven. He's 248 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:21.880 one in six, one win and six unbelievable Phillies torched him for nine hits 249 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:26.960 and five runs and three and a third. Oakland torched him for eight runs, 250 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:33.400 eight hits in two and a third. Atlanta torched him seven hits, 251 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:42.680 five runs in five and two thirds. The Tigers against Trevor Rodgers, who's 252 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:49.000 one in six has an ERA just under six now thanks to what he did 253 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:56.839 against Detroit, managed just three hits in five innings. There's going to come 254 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:03.240 a point in time We're both you and I are no longer saying it's early. 255 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.680 There's going to come a point in time where you and I no longer 256 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:15.480 are saying give them time. There's gonna come a point in time where you 257 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:22.559 and I are no longer saying I'm starting to see them turn the corner. 258 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.000 We're sure as hell not getting in any of the articles. No one's writing 259 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:34.200 about it. It's soft shoe city. Let's go to the Meyer hotline. 260 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.119 Eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. If this were New 261 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:44.559 York, if this for Philadelphia, if this were Chicago, they'd be all 262 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.640 over this team, all over them. Ben, who's waiting for us? 263 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.519 We've got Jake and Grand Rapids. Jake, good morning to you, how 264 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:57.880 are you? Good morning, we're doing all right, just loving this construction 265 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.559 we have going on. But just a couple of thoughts on the Tires. 266 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.759 You last segment, you were going through you know, everyday players, and 267 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.240 it seems like the Tires don't have one, not any good ones anyways. 268 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:17.400 I mean you could say, well, Riley Green's an everyday guy, Torklsen 269 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:22.200 should be an everyday guy, but there's sporadic in their production. It's inconsistent. 270 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.640 And then we have a bunch of you know, seemingly role players, 271 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:33.599 you know Carrie, you know one Seal kinda guys like that that are just 272 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.559 filling guys that don't play one hundred and forty five games a year, and 273 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:42.519 it's showing. And I know last year they were futrid April and May, 274 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:47.920 and then that start kind of just took them out. And I think we're 275 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.559 starting to see that. You know, we had a hot start because we 276 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:56.400 were playing bad teams, and now we're losing the teams that we really should 277 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.599 be. I mean, you have underperforming Astros team that Joe lost two out 278 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.640 of three and you really should have won or swept. Same thing with the 279 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:11.559 Marlins, you know, and just you know, seeing the day to day 280 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.400 status. It seems like these guys, you know, they get hits here 281 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.400 and there, but they're not getting hits when it matters, you know, 282 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.119 they're you know, hits when we have runners in scoring position. Has got 283 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:27.319 to be bottom five, Like, you just don't get hits. And when 284 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.839 you do get hits, that's the game that you win eleven to two or 285 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.640 whatever it is, and that's just too far in between. And you're losing 286 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:41.400 games to teams that are fifteen games under five hundred. It's just at this 287 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.799 point, it's almost unacceptable. I mean, your team's kind of spiraling. 288 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.680 You know, you got three or four pitchers that should be you know, 289 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.839 five or six wins at this point. You know, you got resouls and 290 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.279 who's been pitching out of his mind? Jack Flaherty doing pretty much the same 291 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:02.880 thing, and you know my has been turning it on and obviously Scooby. 292 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:08.240 You just you can't really put a better pitching staff together, and our offense 293 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:12.759 just falls on the space continuously. And it's you know, as a Tigers 294 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:22.039 fan that grew up with those teams in the early twenty tens that were pushing 295 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.279 for Pennant, that's it's completely one eighty and it's it's hard to watch most 296 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.920 nights, to be honest, that's well said. Man, it really is, 297 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.359 and it's passionate and I love that about it. Here's the other thing 298 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.720 I would tell you, So you grew up watching those Tiger teams. Just 299 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.079 to go back to what we were talking about a little bit before, and 300 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:44.640 then we'll get to what you were saying. If you look at those teams, 301 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:52.720 what did you have ever had? Every you had everyday players. Alexanila 302 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.880 is the catcher. He played one hundred and forty one games. And Alex 303 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.720 Savila was a catcher. He played one hundred and forty one. Miguel Cabrera 304 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.279 played one hundred and sixty one games. Johnny Parolta played one hundred and forty 305 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:06.440 six games. Right, Austin Jackson played one hundred and fifty three games. 306 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:08.680 Victor Martinez, I know he's the DH. He played one hundred and forty 307 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:15.759 five games. Those are those are good numbers. Those are numbers you want 308 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:21.920 to see. You need. Brandon Inge played up well over one hundred games. 309 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.920 Those are the things you need. That's that's a big reason why this 310 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:34.039 team back then was successful. It's why you wanted. It's what created your 311 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:41.839 your passion for this team. When a team is good, Look, go 312 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.440 ahead. I was just gonna say, and you had the best of both 313 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:49.440 worlds. You had all those guys, and then you also had a pitching 314 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.799 staff. You know, surez Er, Verlander, Porcello, go down the 315 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:59.640 list. Those guys were getting offense, and we'll have to say that we 316 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.799 would, you know, if we had one or two guys. And you 317 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:07.359 know, I don't want to harp on Riley Green and Tortos in well maybe 318 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.960 just Ryley Green because it doesn't seem like either of those guys have anybody to 319 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:16.359 protect them in the lineup. Look, I don't take Yeah, I don't 320 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:22.640 disagree with you. It's it's impossible to disagree with the statements you're making. 321 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.559 It's impossible because it's so true. And it's why I was so upset in 322 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.839 the off season, and it's why when I was doing the show, I 323 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.559 said, why didn't you go out and get more offense? And it's not 324 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.799 that I have anything against Jill Orchelle. It's not that I have anything against 325 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:44.000 Mark Canna. It doesn't address your need and if you think a guy and 326 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.000 thanks for the phone, call Jake. I love the passion. I appreciate 327 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:51.400 the conversation. It's a great jumping off point for this entire segment. But 328 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.519 if you think about this, we all know, this is what we've been 329 00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:59.119 told by management. Whether the management is in the dugout or in the front 330 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:04.559 office, here's what we've been told. It's a really hard transition for young 331 00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:10.880 guys to make the major leagues. So you should not have expected or counted 332 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:19.519 on a really big production season from cold Keith. I mean, with that 333 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:25.519 mindset right, it just doesn't happen very often guys who are quick risers. 334 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:31.039 I could see it a Bobashett of Vladimir Guerrero Junior for example, Alex Bregman. 335 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.680 Colt Keith wasn't that guy. I'm not saying he's not going to be 336 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.319 the guy, because I believe he's going to be a really good hitter. 337 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:46.400 I think the track record is there based on his minor leagues and everything that 338 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.880 he's done, so I think he's going to be a good hitter. But 339 00:33:49.960 --> 00:34:00.480 I sure wasn't banking on him being a primary run producer this year. Knowing 340 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:06.440 that you had it to you had to find something to surround the Greens, 341 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:14.239 the Torkulsen's, the Carpenters, with established run producers, you didn't do it. 342 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:27.719 One of the big influences in Jake's Tigers baseball life. He mentioned, 343 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.320 you know the twenty ten, twenty eleven, whatever it may be. Look 344 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:38.360 at the twenty nineteen. They finished second. Cabrera won sixty, plaus Deo 345 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:45.519 Polanco won fifty three, Brandon Inge won sixty one, Curtis Granderson won sixty, 346 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:55.880 or Donia's one thirty one steady For the most part, every day guys, 347 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.199 they're not They were and playing one hundred and fifty plus games for the 348 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:08.440 sake of playing it. They were playing it because they were really good at 349 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:15.880 what they did and because they were leading your team to wins. So you 350 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.719 don't want to take them out of the lineup. His point is valid. 351 00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.920 Jake's point is completely valid. I could sit there and say, tell you 352 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.400 know what, Torkosen's playing forty one, Green's playing forty three, cann Is 353 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:37.199 playing forty Verrling's playing thirty nine, Carpenter's playing forty. You need the production 354 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:43.159 with it. I'm not just using those guys as the example, because we 355 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.719 spent a good majority of our show yesterday on the disappointment of one Hobby or 356 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:52.400 Bayez, who's played thirty seven games for this team. I'll go back to 357 00:35:52.440 --> 00:36:01.719 my reoccurring mindset and argument of teams, whether they're good or bad. If 358 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:06.199 you're in the other dugout in this situation in baseball, if you're in the 359 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.519 other dugout, you're the manager of the opposing team and you're looking at the 360 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.639 lineup card, how many of those guys do you want in your lineup? 361 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:24.519 For some it may sound too simplistic, but it's a good gauge. If 362 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:30.639 you're a good manager or a good team and you're on the other side of 363 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:40.079 the field and you're looking across the diamond, pick a guy, pick a 364 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:50.480 manager. Steven vouldve Cleveland, Scott Service of Seattle, Aaron Booda the Yankees. 365 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:55.719 Those are your three, right and Hyde for Baltimore. How many of 366 00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.679 those guys are in their dugout looking across the way, And I really wish 367 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:07.920 we had a guy like this for the Tigers. That's what I would ask 368 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:12.599 myself when I put together a team. How many of those guys and they 369 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.000 don't have to be every day players at that position. I'd like to have 370 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.039 everyday players, but if they're not at that position. Look, I like 371 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:25.239 Matt Vierling a lot. He's a grinder man. He gets after it. 372 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.840 Matt Vierling will help a team. Now, do you want him in center 373 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.000 field every day? No? Do you want him at third base every day? 374 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:36.880 No? Do you want him in right field every day? Probably not, 375 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.440 but you want him somewhere. That's the creativity of a manager. And 376 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.480 every team has that guy, but you can't have a lot of them. 377 00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.079 I don't care who you are. I used to say this to a J. 378 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.639 Hinch all the time when you were in Houston, you were driving him 379 00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:02.880 in a MA park. Here's what you knew. You knew that you had 380 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:09.039 Guriel at first, A'll Twove at second, you had Bregman at third, 381 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:16.760 you had Korea at short, you had Springer in the outfield. And I'm 382 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:23.280 missing a player because Kyle Tucker I don't think was there just yet. So 383 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:32.039 Jordan Olivarez maybe probably more of a dh chas McCormick. Now he had six 384 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:42.079 guys that every day, Six of his eight were everyday guys. How do 385 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:50.440 you beat that? There are some who will say publicly I want the versatility. 386 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.360 I want to be able to move guys around. What I would say 387 00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:04.320 to that is bull roar. You want to have some guys like that, 388 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.960 but you don't want to have all those guys, or you don't want to 389 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:17.679 have more guys like that than not. No no, no, no, 390 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:24.079 no no. You want to have the everyday guys. Michael Brantley might have 391 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:28.840 been the other guy or no, dumb sorry it was Jake marisnik Brandley came 392 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:36.679 later. Those are the guys you want to have, and the Tigers don't 393 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:44.719 have its simple as that right now, they do not have it. You 394 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.239 want the guy if you're gonna win over one hundred games, that's that's primarily 395 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.239 what you're gonna have, the every day guy. And if you have a 396 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:59.559 guy who's gonna play like Hinch and Houston had Marwin Gonzalez. Is he playing 397 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.840 left field every day? Probably not? Or a or a Josh Reddick. 398 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.639 Is he playing right field every day? Probably not? But more often times 399 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:15.159 they are. You're gonna filter in a Tony Kemp back in the day or 400 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:22.239 a Tyler White, but you're gonna those other guys they're posting more often times 401 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:29.679 than not in your lineup and that's what you gotta have. 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