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I have heard you loud and clear complain about the load management phrase that
is oftentimes associated with one sport, the NBA. I'm sure it happens in
hockey to a certain extent, we just don't hear them talk about it as
much hockey. You know, you're you're a dressing what twenty five guys,
and you're able to The game almost dictates the load management because sometimes coaches are
going to roll their top two lines at the end of a game late in
the third to try and make sure they get the game equalizer. You're going
to have powerplay guys, You're gonna have penalty kill guys. There are certain
players Dylan Larkin for Detroit, most Cider for Detroit who are going to play
in every situation. So the game itself kind of dictates the load management Rarely
do you see, if ever, a high end player for a hockey team
dressing street clothes because the coach says he's getting the day off. You do
find that in basketball, for whatever reason, they have chosen to do that,
and for certain teams it's worked, right, then they're going to continue
to do that. Well. In baseball, they're starting to do that now
too, And a lot of it has to do with analytics. The analytics
of baseball is taking over if it hasn't already a front office near you.
It doesn't mean every manager uses analytics to make out their lineup or make a
pitching change, but it is part of the process. I believe the best
managers marry the two together. They marry their instincts and they marry the analytics.
I know we move forward in our society, not just in sports society,
but in society in general taking advantage of technology. You should. It's
kind of stupid not to. Life is one big baseball game. If you've
got or one big sporting event, if you have the technology to improve the
game, use it. How those leagues choose to use it. It still
baffles me sometimes, you know, like baseball, if you've got the technology,
Then why isn't everything reviewable? Right? But whatever I digress, I
get the same sense you know in life, if you've got the technology,
use it. So Baseball is using their technology that's available to them, and
part of that technology ways the amount of time players are exuding energy. And
knowing that Major League Baseball plays more games than any other sport twice as many
as baseball, or twice as many as basketball or hockey, then why wouldn't
baseball use that type of technology fair enough? And let's face it, it
is easier to rest a guy in baseball than other sports. He's getting a
day off because they're playing every day. You've played nineteen straight games. You
want to give a certain guy a day off, go ahead, or make
him the DH get him off his feet. A little bit happens all the
time. They just don't use the phrase load management. It is creeping into
the language of more and more front offices, and it's trickling down to managers,
coaches and players as well. Here's where I think it's coming from.
I think it's coming from trainers. What I've noticed over the past number of
seasons in calling games is that those trainers are so heavily involved with a player.
Think about it, player gets injured, trainer comes out, or any
type of nick, any type of awkward swing. Trainers sees it, they
dart out of the bult dugout to talk to the player. Managers and coaches
are talking to trainers on a regular basis. I'm sure that happened before two.
But in the end, Bobby Cox was making his decision, he was
consulting the trainer. But I think more and more managers now are using them
as that sounding board and a big reason on why they may be making a
decision. Bobby Cox could manage without analytics. Sparky Anderson managed without analytics.
Joe Torre managed without analytics. Tendencies is one thing. Analytics is totally different.
These guys were all really good. I don't care if it's Whitey Herzog
or Dick Williams, you name it, Ralph, Billy Martin. Back in
the day it worked. The game's evolved, the information has gone deeper,
and it's probably a good thing. But baseball, more than any other sport,
because it's a regular basis, is a rhythmic sport. You get in
a groove offensively, you want to stay in the lineup every day. Players
used to take a great deal of pride when it came to their availability,
and I think certain members of that baseball society still do. When you look
up the players who have played the most games, it's not just longevity and
how long they played the sport, but also how much they were available every
year to play the sport. Pete Rose, Carl Yastrensky, Hank Aaron,
Ricky Henderson, Albert Poolhols, Eddie Murray, Stam Musil, Willie Mays,
cal Ripkin Junior. I can go on and on and on, Barry Bonds.
It wasn't that long ago when guys like Yvonne Rodriguez was playing, was
it. Adrian Beltree didn't retire that long ago, nor did Albert Pools,
and yet Beltray and Pools are in the top fifteen in games played. Why
Because they were available every single year. They were playing regularly one hundred and
fifty five to one hundred and sixty two games a year. They took pride
in it. I'm not saying players don't take pride in it now. I
think there's a lot of players who want to play. But look at Adrian
Beltray's record, one fifty two, one fifty nine, one fifty eight,
one fifty six, one fifty six, one sixty one out there every day.
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here throughout the morning Ben as our producer. We will be joined by Colton
Pouncey, the Athletic Lions writer at eight thirty five. Looking forward to that.
Also looking forward to monitoring the PGA Championship that begins here this morning.
In fact, folks have already teed off. The first trio is sewn Michael
Luke, Donald m Michael Block. Most will be kind of monitoring the eight
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Nobody thinks tiger Wood Tiger Woods is going to come close to winning this,
right, Okay, because I didn't think so either. The eight to
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but only McElroy is playing really good golf. Jordan Spieth plays with Brooks
Koepka and Max Homa at eight thirty seven. Now that is a trio I
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That's when I like calin Marka a lot. So it's more Coleen,
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Scotty Scheffler is teeing off with Brian Harmon and Wyndham Clark. That's a
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Valhalla. That track is only seven six d and nine yards. Oh is
that it? Yeah? Huh, it's amazing. We were talking about load
management specifically and how it's creeping into baseball, and I wonder how old school
managers start to feel about this because they want I mean, it's their their
jobs are on the line. They want their everyday players more than just about
any other sport. Baseball. Really good teams I'm talking about challenging teams are
putting their lineup together every single day. Aaron Boone's driving to the ballpark for
the Yankees and he's like, I'm good man. I know that Aaron Judge
is playing. I know that Juan Soto's playing. I know that Anthony Rizzo's
playing. I know that Anthony volpi is playing. He knows Alex Verdugo's playing.
He knows his guys, his everyday players, and it's paying off for
him. Right. That's the way it works. That's the good news.
If you're a really good team, you have everyday players. That's a big
reason why New York right now might be twenty nine and fifteen. You don't
think the Phillies a big reason for their success. The primary reason they lead
the league in wins is because Nick Castianos, Alec Baum, Kyle Schwarber,
Bryce Harper, jt Rila, Muto, Trey Turner, Bryce and Stott and
Brandon marsh are playing every single day. Now, you're gonna give really Muto
a day off because he's the catcher. But that team, I'll give you
an example here. That team, the Philadelphia Phillies. I told you they've
got thirty one wins, more than anybody else in baseball. New York's got
the most in the American League with twenty nine. The Dodgers have twenty nine.
The Phillies are thirty one and thirteen. So they have played forty four
games. Castianos has played in every one of them. Bowem has played in
forty three of them. Schwarver has played in forty two of them. Harper's
played in thirty nine. He was nicked up a little bit. Relamuto the
Catcher's played in thirty five of the forty four. Bryson or Brandon marsh rather
has played in thirty eight. Bryson Scott has played in thirty nine. You're
damn right every single day. Those are your everyday players. Rob Thompson is
as happy as a pig, and you know what, because that's what he
is getting. He's got his guys playing every single day. Dave Roberts,
Mookie Betts, Shoe Otani, to Oscar Hernandez, Freddie Freeman, Will Smith,
Max Munsey and Go Gavin Lux They're all playing forty games or more.
And the Dodgers so far this season have played forty five games. Of those
guys I mentioned, Max Munsey's played forty. That's the fewest. What Will
Smith played thirty eight, But Will Smith's catcher, so you're gonna get him
a day off once in a while. Mentally as much as physically. Those
what the best teams do. The load management might be for teams that just
don't know who they have. They don't have good players. Look at the
teams that are leading their divisions and look who's playing on an everyday basis.
Cleveland Guardians lead the division. Jose Ramirez has missed two games. Andre Semenez
has messed three games. Josh Naylor has missed two games. They're gonna play
every Stephen Kwan is injured, but he still played thirty two so far.
Brian Rochio for crying out loud their shortstop every single day. Maybe the mindset
will change. Maybe I'm the one who's living in the past way too much,
but I think in baseball you need everyday guys. They're used to it.
Here's what people aren't taking it. It'd be silly for me to say
that. Of course, they're taking load management into account in other sports.
Basketball, folks, if you're not playing, your practicing hockey. If you're
not playing, you're practicing rarely do you get to get a day off,
you got a morning skate. More and more coaches are doing away with that,
by the way. They just don't feel like it's necessary. They'll come
in, they'll get some cardio in, let's say running or whatever. They'll
get a lift in, perhaps they'll get some treatment. But sometimes they're a
lot of guys. John Tortrello is a good example of it. Just they
don't believe in the morning skate anymore. The philosophy is individually, but it's
also changing a little bit. So maybe it's changing in baseball. But those
people are still getting their body loose, they're still getting their cardio in baseball.
Those guys are playing every day, so they're not practicing. I don't
think the load management works in baseball. I think guys are the way they
have grown up, college baseball, travel teams. They're playing year round.
Their body thrives on it, craves it. Sometimes the technology can be too
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eight thirty five to talk about the Lions' schedule, the Jared Goff contract extension
and more. Tiger is a loser yesterday to nothing. That means say they
haven't scored a run in the last nineteen innings. Casey Mice was really good.
You can't expect him or any pitcher to be perfect. Giving up two
runs in a game. And I know it was the first inning, understood,
and I get that it was two batters deep, you get an infield
single, and you get a home run. But Casey Mice gave up two
flipping hits, allowed three base runners because he walked one. He struck out
six. He threw ninety pitches, sixty one of them for strikes. He
deserved better. His offense stinks. They can't score. At one point,
Mice retired eleven in a row. Eighteen of nineteen Tigers hitters. Well,
not much to brag about there. Anybody have a multi hit game? Yeah,
Carson Kelly batting ninth, went three for three. The one through six
hitters were two for eighteen. As a team, Detroit left ten on base.
They advanced a runner in scoring position just twice. So Miami wins that
series fewest wins in baseball thirteen. They just beat you two out of three.
You know me, I'm not a huge home field advantage guy, but
they did beat you at home. That makes it even worse. To compound
the issue, Trevor Rodgers, who started and got the victory from Miami,
had an era going into that game of eight point five to seven. He's
one in six, one win and six unbelievable Phillies torched him for nine hits
and five runs and three and a third. Oakland torched him for eight runs,
eight hits in two and a third. Atlanta torched him seven hits,
five runs in five and two thirds. The Tigers against Trevor Rodgers, who's
one in six has an ERA just under six now thanks to what he did
against Detroit, managed just three hits in five innings. There's going to come
a point in time We're both you and I are no longer saying it's early.
There's going to come a point in time where you and I no longer
are saying give them time. There's gonna come a point in time where you
and I are no longer saying I'm starting to see them turn the corner.
We're sure as hell not getting in any of the articles. No one's writing
about it. It's soft shoe city. Let's go to the Meyer hotline.
Eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. If this were New
York, if this for Philadelphia, if this were Chicago, they'd be all
over this team, all over them. Ben, who's waiting for us?
We've got Jake and Grand Rapids. Jake, good morning to you, how
are you? Good morning, we're doing all right, just loving this construction
we have going on. But just a couple of thoughts on the Tires.
You last segment, you were going through you know, everyday players, and
it seems like the Tires don't have one, not any good ones anyways.
I mean you could say, well, Riley Green's an everyday guy, Torklsen
should be an everyday guy, but there's sporadic in their production. It's inconsistent.
And then we have a bunch of you know, seemingly role players,
you know Carrie, you know one Seal kinda guys like that that are just
filling guys that don't play one hundred and forty five games a year, and
it's showing. And I know last year they were futrid April and May,
and then that start kind of just took them out. And I think we're
starting to see that. You know, we had a hot start because we
were playing bad teams, and now we're losing the teams that we really should
be. I mean, you have underperforming Astros team that Joe lost two out
of three and you really should have won or swept. Same thing with the
Marlins, you know, and just you know, seeing the day to day
status. It seems like these guys, you know, they get hits here
and there, but they're not getting hits when it matters, you know,
they're you know, hits when we have runners in scoring position. Has got
to be bottom five, Like, you just don't get hits. And when
you do get hits, that's the game that you win eleven to two or
whatever it is, and that's just too far in between. And you're losing
games to teams that are fifteen games under five hundred. It's just at this
point, it's almost unacceptable. I mean, your team's kind of spiraling.
You know, you got three or four pitchers that should be you know,
five or six wins at this point. You know, you got resouls and
who's been pitching out of his mind? Jack Flaherty doing pretty much the same
thing, and you know my has been turning it on and obviously Scooby.
You just you can't really put a better pitching staff together, and our offense
just falls on the space continuously. And it's you know, as a Tigers
fan that grew up with those teams in the early twenty tens that were pushing
for Pennant, that's it's completely one eighty and it's it's hard to watch most
nights, to be honest, that's well said. Man, it really is,
and it's passionate and I love that about it. Here's the other thing
I would tell you, So you grew up watching those Tiger teams. Just
to go back to what we were talking about a little bit before, and
then we'll get to what you were saying. If you look at those teams,
what did you have ever had? Every you had everyday players. Alexanila
is the catcher. He played one hundred and forty one games. And Alex
Savila was a catcher. He played one hundred and forty one. Miguel Cabrera
played one hundred and sixty one games. Johnny Parolta played one hundred and forty
six games. Right, Austin Jackson played one hundred and fifty three games.
Victor Martinez, I know he's the DH. He played one hundred and forty
five games. Those are those are good numbers. Those are numbers you want
to see. You need. Brandon Inge played up well over one hundred games.
Those are the things you need. That's that's a big reason why this
team back then was successful. It's why you wanted. It's what created your
your passion for this team. When a team is good, Look, go
ahead. I was just gonna say, and you had the best of both
worlds. You had all those guys, and then you also had a pitching
staff. You know, surez Er, Verlander, Porcello, go down the
list. Those guys were getting offense, and we'll have to say that we
would, you know, if we had one or two guys. And you
know, I don't want to harp on Riley Green and Tortos in well maybe
just Ryley Green because it doesn't seem like either of those guys have anybody to
protect them in the lineup. Look, I don't take Yeah, I don't
disagree with you. It's it's impossible to disagree with the statements you're making.
It's impossible because it's so true. And it's why I was so upset in
the off season, and it's why when I was doing the show, I
said, why didn't you go out and get more offense? And it's not
that I have anything against Jill Orchelle. It's not that I have anything against
Mark Canna. It doesn't address your need and if you think a guy and
thanks for the phone, call Jake. I love the passion. I appreciate
the conversation. It's a great jumping off point for this entire segment. But
if you think about this, we all know, this is what we've been
told by management. Whether the management is in the dugout or in the front
office, here's what we've been told. It's a really hard transition for young
guys to make the major leagues. So you should not have expected or counted
on a really big production season from cold Keith. I mean, with that
mindset right, it just doesn't happen very often guys who are quick risers.
I could see it a Bobashett of Vladimir Guerrero Junior for example, Alex Bregman.
Colt Keith wasn't that guy. I'm not saying he's not going to be
the guy, because I believe he's going to be a really good hitter.
I think the track record is there based on his minor leagues and everything that
he's done, so I think he's going to be a good hitter. But
I sure wasn't banking on him being a primary run producer this year. Knowing
that you had it to you had to find something to surround the Greens,
the Torkulsen's, the Carpenters, with established run producers, you didn't do it.
One of the big influences in Jake's Tigers baseball life. He mentioned,
you know the twenty ten, twenty eleven, whatever it may be. Look
at the twenty nineteen. They finished second. Cabrera won sixty, plaus Deo
Polanco won fifty three, Brandon Inge won sixty one, Curtis Granderson won sixty,
or Donia's one thirty one steady For the most part, every day guys,
they're not They were and playing one hundred and fifty plus games for the
sake of playing it. They were playing it because they were really good at
what they did and because they were leading your team to wins. So you
don't want to take them out of the lineup. His point is valid.
Jake's point is completely valid. I could sit there and say, tell you
know what, Torkosen's playing forty one, Green's playing forty three, cann Is
playing forty Verrling's playing thirty nine, Carpenter's playing forty. You need the production
with it. I'm not just using those guys as the example, because we
spent a good majority of our show yesterday on the disappointment of one Hobby or
Bayez, who's played thirty seven games for this team. I'll go back to
my reoccurring mindset and argument of teams, whether they're good or bad. If
you're in the other dugout in this situation in baseball, if you're in the
other dugout, you're the manager of the opposing team and you're looking at the
lineup card, how many of those guys do you want in your lineup?
For some it may sound too simplistic, but it's a good gauge. If
you're a good manager or a good team and you're on the other side of
the field and you're looking across the diamond, pick a guy, pick a
manager. Steven vouldve Cleveland, Scott Service of Seattle, Aaron Booda the Yankees.
Those are your three, right and Hyde for Baltimore. How many of
those guys are in their dugout looking across the way, And I really wish
we had a guy like this for the Tigers. That's what I would ask
myself when I put together a team. How many of those guys and they
don't have to be every day players at that position. I'd like to have
everyday players, but if they're not at that position. Look, I like
Matt Vierling a lot. He's a grinder man. He gets after it.
Matt Vierling will help a team. Now, do you want him in center
field every day? No? Do you want him at third base every day?
No? Do you want him in right field every day? Probably not,
but you want him somewhere. That's the creativity of a manager. And
every team has that guy, but you can't have a lot of them.
I don't care who you are. I used to say this to a J.
Hinch all the time when you were in Houston, you were driving him
in a MA park. Here's what you knew. You knew that you had
Guriel at first, A'll Twove at second, you had Bregman at third,
you had Korea at short, you had Springer in the outfield. And I'm
missing a player because Kyle Tucker I don't think was there just yet. So
Jordan Olivarez maybe probably more of a dh chas McCormick. Now he had six
guys that every day, Six of his eight were everyday guys. How do
you beat that? There are some who will say publicly I want the versatility.
I want to be able to move guys around. What I would say
to that is bull roar. You want to have some guys like that,
but you don't want to have all those guys, or you don't want to
have more guys like that than not. No no, no, no,
no no. You want to have the everyday guys. Michael Brantley might have
been the other guy or no, dumb sorry it was Jake marisnik Brandley came
later. Those are the guys you want to have, and the Tigers don't
have its simple as that right now, they do not have it. You
want the guy if you're gonna win over one hundred games, that's that's primarily
what you're gonna have, the every day guy. And if you have a
guy who's gonna play like Hinch and Houston had Marwin Gonzalez. Is he playing
left field every day? Probably not? Or a or a Josh Reddick.
Is he playing right field every day? Probably not? But more often times
they are. You're gonna filter in a Tony Kemp back in the day or
a Tyler White, but you're gonna those other guys they're posting more often times
than not in your lineup and that's what you gotta have. Meyer hotlines open
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