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Hey, everybody, it's Brian.
This is obviously not the regular intro to

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the show because this is sort of
a special occasion. I'm here to introduce

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the latest show that we've added into
the Paranormal World Productions family. You guys

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have heard Chat and Bob on the
show before talking about crop circles and talking

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about giants, and it is Chat
and Bob from the Basement Hangout. This

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week, they actually joined the Paranormal
World Productions family and became a part of

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the network. So we recorded a
show together just a couple of days ago

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to make this announcement, and it's
a really interesting show. It's about the

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UAP whistleblower from the US government who
just came out recently with some really shocking

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claims about what the government knows about
having crashed alien craft and even alien bodies

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from the pilots. So this is
a really interesting show and it really sort

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of highlights what you're going to hear
from Chat and Bob if you tune into

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The Hangout. I've got a link
to their show in the show notes.

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You can listen to The Basement Hangout
anywhere you get your podcast. We do

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refer to some video there is some
video of us breaking down this guy's body

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language and some other stuff. So
I would highly suggest you go over to

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our website Paranormal World Productions dot com
check out the Sasquatch Outassee blog and you

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can see the video and sort of
follow along as we talk about this.

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If you want, I will have
it posted up on the Sasquatch outse A

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YouTube channel. That's where the link
will take you to when you watch the

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video. We are truly excited to
have Chat and Bob and the Basement Hangout

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as a part of our Paranormal World
Productions family. I know you guys are

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going to enjoy them just as much
as we have. So without further ado,

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let's get into tonight show the Basement
Bob. Today is a special emergency

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broadcast of the Basement Hangout System.
We have to talk about the bombshell UFO

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whistleblower news that hit the wires on
Tuesday. Are you familiar? No,

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you're not. I don't know.
No, I don't know what the fuck

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talking about. Okay, well that's
good. I like you should have prepped

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me. But before we do that, we have an announcement to make.

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Just over a year ago, we
had Brian king Sharp from the Sasquatch Odyssey

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podcast on our show for an interview
because we were fans of his show and

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wanted to pick his brain. You
remember that, Yes. Subsequently we did

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a couple mutual shows, one on
crop circles and one on the possibility of

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giants being a real thing in Earth's
past. Leading up to that time and

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ever since, Bob Sasquatch Odyssey has
been gaining major steam and growing by leaps

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and bounds. Brian has established his
own podcast network named Paranormal World Productions,

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which includes the flagship Sasquatch Odyssey,
as well as the Paranormal Odyssey pod cast

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the True Crime Odyssey podcast, all
of which Brian started and maintained with his

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partner in crime Danny. Now,
Paranormal World Productions network also includes the Kentucky

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X Files podcast, the Weird Encounters
podcast, and the reigns of Paranormal Odyssey

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have been placed into the hands of
a new host. We've had some discussions

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with Brian over the past several months, and Bob, it is my pleasure

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to announce that The Basement Hangout is
now also part of the Paranormal World Productions

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network. Nice in terms of content
and format. For our traditional Basement Hangout

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listeners, nothing will change, but
this will open up new avenues of collaboration

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and networking opportunities, and we are
humbled and delighted to join the network with

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us. Tonight is the man himself, Brian King Sharp. Brian, Welcome

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to the Hangout. What's up,
guys. It's good to be back on

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the Hangout. I love hanging out
in the basement with you guys. Man.

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Yeah, it's good to have you
here, and again, thank you

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for bringing us into your network.
Absolutely. Man, tell us a little

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bit about how that network is growing. Well, it grows, it seems

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every single day. Because ultimately what
this is all about. You and I

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have talked about it. We've all
had conversations on air and off the air

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about collaborations with other people. That's
what it's really all about. For me.

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I mean, I've said it so
many times. I get to do

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this as a full time job.
I get to do what I love to

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do, which is podcast. But
the real thing that I love the most

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about all of this is meeting the
people. The people truly are what I

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enjoy the most. And you know, obviously we hit it off when we

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collaborated a year or so back when
I came on your show, and then

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you guys have come on a couple
of times, and it's just one of

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those things. You fit the niche. As far as what we're looking for

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with the network, it's like minded
people who approach this the right way,

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do it in a professional manner.
Have fun. That's the ultimate goal,

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is to have fun doing all of
this stuff. Everything we talk about is

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subjective for the most part, So
if you can have a little fun along

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the way and talk about some cool
stuff, then I see no harm in

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that. For sure. This is
the way, Brian. Will you stick

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around with us? While we'd discuss
the UFO whistleblower, absolutely, man,

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I wouldn't miss it for the world. Awesome. So two episodes ago,

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Bob, we discussed doctor Gary Nolan's
interview at the Salt conference. Yea,

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I remember that he said that alien
tech and UFOs have been here for a

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long time and that the US is
actively working on reverse engineering the retrieved technology

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from these craft. He also made
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law by Congress provided for whistleblowers to
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without fear of prosecution. And you
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didn't realize that the legislation included that. Remember that, and they had to

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come on the weekend. I remember, well, I don't know if they

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have to. They just kind of
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is the same whistle blower or what. Well, that's part of the story,

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I think so. Doctor Gary Noelan
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community had indeed come forward recently and
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And Noelan himself came across as very
credible and said he was one hundred percent

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sure of his claims. And I
remember you and I were talking afterwards and

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you were like, damn, that
guy was good. Yeah, And I

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was like, why haven't I seen
this anywhere? Right? So, and

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I was wondering, who is this
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out and testified to Congress. Last
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yesterday, and it was about the
NASA panel that has come together to discuss

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their findings in uap or UFO investigations
so far, and in attendance was Kirkpatrick

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from the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Officer
Arrow. You recall Kirkpatrick said, we

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are seeing metallic, sometimes translucent orbs
all over the world which can stand still

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in the air or travel at mock
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all without any discernible propulsion mechanism,
right all over the world. The

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US government is seeing these things and
they don't know what they are. And

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then NASA ultimately says, well,
we need more data and there's no evidence

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that these anomalies are extraterrestrial in nature. And you and I were kind of

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like, what the hell, that
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aired that episode Tuesday morning, literally
two hours later. Ross Colehart remember Ross

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co Yes, we did an interview
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years ago now a year and a
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and he told us that he was
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said that the US government is in
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reverse engineer it. So he just
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he's done, which is releasing this
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Is it online and it's that news
something online Newsmax. No, not

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Newsmax, NewsNation. Oh yeah,
okay, so he is an independent,

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but he's doing this for News Nation. So he dropped that bombshell yesterday.

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What was the bombshell? I don't
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after we released our episode. So
I felt we've got to come on right

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now and discuss this. So what's
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testified in front of Congress about these
covert programs where they have alien craft and

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they are trying to reverse engineer them. Ross Colehart interviewed him and is airing

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that interview. Shit. His name
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of documents to Congress that the US
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of non human origin and they are
actively working to reverse engineer it and has

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been doing so for decades. So
is he in witness protection now or is

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he like safe? He has filed
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retribution, according to him, from
the intel community against him. Baash coming

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forward. Oh yeah, no,
shit, So we can connect the dots,

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Bob, I think and assume that
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real name is Yeah, is the
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who testified in front of Congress.
Brian, have you heard any of this

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stuff? No, this is all
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Okay. So it's funny though,
because you know this came out again it

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was a bombshell. Where did you
see it? Because I know about the

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Canadian smoke in our air, but
I don't know that. I'm gonna play

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it for you. And this is
this is one of the things, right.

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So a US intelligence officer, high
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Force and one of the other major
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the one that deals with satellites,
and he comes forward, testifies in front

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of Congress, gives reams of documents
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gets announced, and the mainstream media
and the public at large reacted something like

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this. I mean, at least
they weren't laughing, I guess because nobody's

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even heard it. It's amazing the
Washington Post. Let me change my screen

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here so you guys can see this. I'm glad Brian doesn't know either.

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So it's not like I'm an idiot
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should be seeing my screen here.
This is Today's New York Times. So

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we've got something about I don't know
even know what that means. Destroyed damn

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in Ukraine. We've heard about that. That's that's a tragedy. Uh,

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something about I don't even know again
what that is. Here's the Canada fires.

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You were talking about. Nothing about
UFOs or alien craft being reverse engineered.

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Here's the Wall Street Journal sec Widen's
crypto crackdown. PGA tour, the

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damn in Ukraine. I mean,
the PGA toured thing is huge, merged

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with live golf, which is like
the Saudi backed Yeah yeah, yeah,

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tourer than aliens visiting our planet for
decades. No, but that is crazy

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ass news because they're basically accepting Saudi
money. That's like dirty. Well,

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if the Aliens come kill us,
none of that will matter. No,

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The Washington Post Ukrainian dam Ukrainian pipeline. So Raine probably, I mean,

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don't you think that's probably the most
Brian I would assume. So, yes,

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it hurts Russia, morbid also hurts
Ukraine. I don't know, so,

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like I said, I mean I'm
just kind of flabbergasted. Maybe people

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don't think it's real. Maybe the
mainstream media is waiting for the full report

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that comes out this Sunday. But
to hear this, I mean, imagine,

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Brian, if you will, that
somebody videos a sasquatch in the wild

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and provides information that the US government
has been farming sasquatch. I don't know,

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and you know, it comes out
and then you hear what would you

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think about that? Well, here's
the thing about that, right, I

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think there's a couple of things going
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don't know what it is about the
UAP phenomenon, but there's been so much

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that has been talked about, at
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disclosure and other things. I think
at this point it may be one of

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those things where people are just so
immune to hearing this kind of stuff.

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They're like, Ah, yeah,
you know, this guy's either crazy or

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maybe he does have something, but
who cares. They've been talking about it

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forever. We kind of knew it
already. It's you know, is there

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really a there there kind of thing? So I agree with you on the

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maybe this guy's crazy, Maybe he's
coming out trying to make a name for

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himself. Maybe the information isn't real. But if we were able to take

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a leap that the information is real, and we were able to say that

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aliens are confirmed to be visiting,
the government knows about it, that they

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have crash tech, I mean it
changes the pair time of pretty much everything.

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Sure, I definitely agree. And
how are we going to get to

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that proof? Though? Where do
you think that's going to come from what

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he's turned over to Congress? Yeah, so supposedly the documents that he's turned

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over to Congress are top secret and
contain communications and information about the US government

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programs. So big ups to Congress, I guess because they like give him

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immunity and yeah, exactly so,
but it might ruin his life. Well,

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yeah, he's already, I mean, he's suing the government because of

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that, he's getting reprisals. But
like we discussed last week, you know,

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it's one of those things where you
know they're going to just destroy him

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and it's gonna be swept under the
rug and we're going to continue forward as

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always. Or so, anyway,
let's play the clip of what was released

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again. It's just minor clips so
far. The full report by Ross Coolheart

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on News Nation is going to be
released on Sunday, and Ross Cooltheart actually

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tweeted today to June ten. Yeah, so he tweeted today that what David

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Grush will reveal this Sunday is shocking
and demands action from Congress. So shouldn't

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they have gotten a group of people
together before they're like, they're gonna out

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this dude and then his life's gonna
be destroyed. Possibly, well, but

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Congress is supposed to be protecting him
now. I don't know if that means

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he's the one seven armed guards or
what if you're one of the other dudes

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waiting to disclose, then hopefully he's
not made an example of like, yeah,

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that's true. Well they're probably waiting
in the wings. Actually, you

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know what, Before I play that, let's listen to what Ross Coldhart told

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us on our show eighteen months ago
or what Yeah, it was October twenty

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twenty one, and this is the
intro to that episode on our show.

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Let's take a listen to this.
I was told by people who purported either

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to have worked or are working on
what they all euphemistically refer to as the

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program that the United States is in
possession of recovered non human technology. What

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blew me away? I just kept
on finding stuff that just made my journalistic

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hackles rise. References to recovered flying
sources in Nepal and Afghanistan, references spot

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to an elite unit flying around the
world recovering space objects. The US government

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years ago recovered non terrestrial material,
and that it's been attempting to back engineer

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that material. Okay, so now
fast forward again. Eighteen months later,

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here's Rask called Heart with his UAP
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twenty months is it? Oh,
it's October. Thank you, Thank you

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for the matter. You're welcome.
You are one of the most trusted former

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intelligence officials in the US Defense and
Intelligence establishment. Yes, I was.

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You were trusted with the most intimate
sea fruits. Yes, what conclusion did

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you come to at the end of
your time on the UAP task course?

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The UAP Task Force was refused access
to a broad crash retrieval program. When

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you say crash retrieval, what do
you make These are retrieving non human origin

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technical vehicles, you know, call
it spacecraft if you will, non human

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exotic origin vehicles. That have either
landed or crashed. We have spicecraft from

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another species? We do? Yeah, how many? Quite a number?

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You're kidding now. I thought it
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first I was being deceived. It
was a ruse. People started confiding in

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me, They approached me. I
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that came to me, many of
which I knew almost my whole career,

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that can confided in me. They
were a part of a program. They

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named the program. I've never heard
of it, and they told me,

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based on their oral testimony, and
they provided me documents and other other proof

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that there was in fact a program
that the UAP Task Force was not read

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into. If you're telling us the
truth, everyone, the entire American public

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has been led to for decades.
Yeah, there's a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting

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the US populace, which is extremely
unethical and immoral. US saying to the

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human race. For the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high

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level from the US government is saying
publicly, we are not alone. We're

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definitely not alone. Absolutely, the
data points empirically that we're not alone.

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Yeah, do we have bodies do
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when you recover something that's either landed
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pilots, And I believe it or
not, as fantastical as that sounds,

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it's true. I've got to be
a bunch about this. You're not making

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this up. This is not a
lie. No, absolutely not, because

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everybody watching this right now is looking
at your face. They're going, is

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this guy for real? I am
for real, and I'm you know,

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I'm sitting here at great personal risk
and obvious professional risk by talking to you

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today, thoughts. I hope he
has someone behind him like that supports him,

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like his life's not ruined. Bryan. Yeah, I can tell you

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just from what I'm seeing, and
I'm certainly no expert. I did some

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interrogation training as a cop, and
if I were talking to this dude,

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I see nothing that indicates any kind
of deception whatsoever. So he looks like

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he's telling the truth to me.
And if he's got the stuff to back

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it up that he's turned over,
then I mean it's it's certainly a huge,

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huge deal if what he's saying is
truth. In Stay tuned from or

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Sasquat jalousy will be right back after
these messages. That's a really interesting take

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because I even though I'm pumping this
and I'm talking about how amazing it is,

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for some reason, and I'm not
trained, I was not a law

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enforcement professional. I am not educated
in any psychology or anything. But something

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about him just rubs me a little
bit the wrong way. And I can't

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put my finger on it. Because
he's smiling. I don't know if it's

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his smile, his smirk, his
mannerisms. He's got to be nervous as

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hell, right, that's true.
That's absolutely true, Brian, and your

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experiences. Could that account for it? Yeah? I think it could be

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nerves. It could be the fact
that he knows that, as he said,

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he's saying this at great personal risk, and he's probably in the back

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of his mind thinking most people aren't
gonna believe me, and the ones who

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do are probably gonna want to kill
me. So yeah, there's a lot

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going on there. But like I
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base, but he looks like a
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he actually he looks a little pissed
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he does. Maybe that's natural reaction
for somebody in his position to be

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in because what he said is very
true. If this is accurate, and

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this is what's happening, and all, as he put it, all the

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data points are pointing to this in
that direction. People have been lied to

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for a very, very long time, and the government of the United States

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is behind it. And he's a
part of that machine. And when you're

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a cog in that machine and you've
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some of the things he's saying,
I think there's a lot there. Again,

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if he's tell them the truth,
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Yeah. So it is interesting though
that I, you guys have a completely

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different take than I did, a
different impression. I, in the bottom

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of my heart hope that he's telling
the truth. So why would he not

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tell the truth? Is going to
his whole life. You know, there's

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a lot of theories out there.
You can call him conspiracy theories if you

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want, but imagine that he's part
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psy op to fool. You know, Let's say that it turns out that

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what he's saying is nonsense. Does
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So he's part of the disinformation he's
even referencing potentially, And I know lou

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Alesando, who's you know, the
biggest guy before him, who supposedly ran

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one of these um you know,
government agencies, who tis you got it?

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A lot of people think that he's
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Oh, I don't know. People
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other thing is, could US intelligence
be doing this to fool our adversaries into

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thinking we have alien text so don't
work with us. Maybe I'm going out

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on a limb there, but I
don't think we need that though, well

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we don't know for sure, do
we? I don't know. So Putin

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won't blow us up, is what
you're saying. So but I do like,

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Brian, that you brought up the
body language. Yes, that is

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what I'm saying, potentially, Brian, I do like that you brought up

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the body language thing because I actually
was looking at that when I watched that

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video. I wanted it to be
true so bad, but something about the

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body language rubbed me the wrong way. So this guy is a YouTube psychologist

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who analyzes body language. Apparently he's
a PhD. I've never heard him before.

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His name's doctor g YouTube psychologist.
He's a YouTube psychologist. A.

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Yeah, well, let's put it
in another way. He is a psychologist

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who now has a YouTube channel.
Okay, that changes everything, thank you.

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Ye it's almost nine minutes long.
I'm not saying we need to watch

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the whole thing, but let's see
what this guy has to say, and

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hopefully we can get some volume.
Which expert and today we're going to be

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analyzing the body language of the UFO
whistleblower, David Grush. David Grush is

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an Air Force veteran and a former
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US has intact UFOs as well as
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The nature of these claims are very
different than many of the body language

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analyses I do. But it seems
that a lot of people are interested in

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this. So let's get started so
I can tell you what I'm observing as

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far as body language goes. Before
we get started, I do want to

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remind you to like and subscribe if
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this. All right, let's go, Well, we're going to watch now.

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Is part of an exclusive interview with
News Nation. We're going to look

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closely at his body language, and
I do want you to keep in mind

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he was part of the National Geospatial
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So before the interview even begins,
something you're going to notice is that

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his lips are pursed. Now what
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lack of confidence. It can also
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Now he's getting ready to do an
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talk about what he says our government
secrets that could make somebody feel any of

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those ways. But I just want
you to keep in mind how this is

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starting. Brian, let me just
ask you, pursed lips. Is that

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something that you looked for when you
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of those indicators. But again,
you got to keep in mind, everything

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this guy's gonna talk about is gonna
be a totality of the circumstances. And

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I'm glad he even alluded to the
fact this guy's nervous. He's about to

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talk about some real shit on national
television. Of course he's going to be

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nervous, and that is a nervous
reaction for a lot of people to do,

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and anybody can take a video and
do a steal. I guarantee you

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somebody could do a steal of anything
that we're talking about right now and make

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us look like complete assholes and make
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and put together an entire video on
our body language. So I'm always a

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little bit apprehensive about that stuff.
But yes, that was a long answer

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to a short question. I agree
with you, and I made did look

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like an asshole pretty much every day. And this looks like a different angle

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than maybe it was a quick shop, but I don't remember, like up

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under the lights. Yeah, so
I didn't have this video and what we

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played. But this was kind of
like as they're preparing right before they start

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recording. All right, let's go
bull on secrets. He says, no

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one has ever shared publicly before one
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the US to thinks an intelligence establishment. Yes, I was. So we're

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seeing a slight smile. That could
be a nervous smile. It could be

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socially appropriate behavior, or it could
be that he is preparing to deceive.

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We're going to have to see which
one it is. You were trusted with

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the most intimate secrets. Yes.
So right now he's nodding his head along

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with yes, as he's acknowledging that
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So of course he's been trusted with
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wasn't trusted with secrets. So that
is true. And I want you to

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keep in mind that he does nod
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sometimes he shakes his head when saying
no. This could be very important.

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It sounds like a small point,
but it's something that's going to be very

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consequential as we continue to watch this
interview. Let's just watch it again,

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said with the most intimate secrets.
Yes. Grush sitting down with award winning

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investigative journalist Ross Coltheart. He's reporting
for News Nation the end of your time

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on the UAP task Course. The
UAP Task Force refuse access to a broad

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crash retrieval program. So we're seeing
the pursing of the lips. We're seeing

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the chorus of the mouth go back. This is oftentimes associated with anxiety,

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concerned things like that. Now,
once again he's saying things that he says

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are secrets. So maybe that's no
shock, But I just want you to

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keep track of all the little body
language pieces that we're seeing. Okay,

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let's watch it again. Those refuse
access to a broad crash retrieval program.

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When you say crash retrieval, what
do you make? These are retrieving non

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human origin technical vehicles, you know. Call it spacecraft if you will.

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Now, this is where it starts
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his head shakes are consistent with what
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human origin technical Now. Right now, his head's sort of bobbing, so

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you can't really say it's nodding or
shaking at this point, Nicoles, you

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know, call it spacecraft if you
will. All right, so he was

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shaking his head, Call it spacecraft
if you will. Now maybe he was

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doing that for emphasis, or maybe
he was suggesting no, as he's talking

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about spacecraft. Let's keep watching.
Oh, non human exotic origin vehicles that

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have either landed or crashed. We
have spicecraft from another species? We do?

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Yeah? How many? Quite a
number? You're kidding? No,

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I thought it was totally nuts,
and I thought at first I was being

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deceived. It was a ruse people
started confiding in me. They approached me.

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I have plenty of current former senior
intelligence officers that came to me.

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Now we're starting to see headshakes as
he's talking about this about current former senior

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officers coming to him. That starts
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he's not agreeing with what he's saying. Let's watch this again, me,

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I have plenty of current former senior
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of which I knew almost my whole
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They were a part of a program. They named the program. I've never

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heard of it. When he says
I've never heard of it, part of

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a program they named the program,
I've never heard him archie his eyebrows like

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that. It is consistent with him
talking about something that did surprise him.

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Purt events. And they told me
based on their oral testimony, and they

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provided me documents another other proof that
there was in fact a program that the

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UAP task. So after he said
that they provided me documents and hard proof,

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he did a heart swallow. Oftentimes
we associate that with very significant amounts

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of stress. Does that necessarily mean
he's lying? No, But we do

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oftentimes see it with deceitful behavior because
people feel anxious after saying that, maybe

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he feels anxious for another reason.
But I can say pretty conclusively that that

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hard swallow after saying that it would
be associated with stress. So I'm going

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to do a meta analysis. Okay, he's analyzing him. I'm gonna analyze

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the psychologist. I've always thought to
myself, the reason I will never go

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to a psychologist is because they just
tell you shit you already know. And

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so far, he's telling us shit. We already know. He's mad,

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stressed, he's stressed. This could
be a lie. It might not be

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a lie. It could be the
truth telling things that are stressful. So

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thank you sir. Shall we continue? I mean, he knows that he

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knows he can ruin his life.
I can't imagine. Yeah, like he's

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bobbing his head, you know,
I don't know. So he looks to

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me like he looks to me like
he knows no one's gonna believe him.

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But it's true, Okay. And
they provided me documents and other other proof

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that there was in fact a program
that the UAP Task Force was not right

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into. If you're telling us the
truth everyone. The entire American public has

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been lied to for decades. Yeah, there's a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the

406
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.559
US populace, which is extremely unethical
and so for our listeners, they couldn't

407
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:51.559
see that. Obviously. The video
paused and he threw in a lips show

408
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.680
contempt. Did you see that?
It was so quick? I didn't.

409
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.440
I'm not sure what that So what
does that mean? Chad? Let's rewind

410
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.519
the tape. If I can find
the right spot, what does contempt?

411
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:10.039
Lip show contempt? Anger at the
question? I think he's going angry anyway.

412
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.759
Yeah, well I can't find that
spot. Let's just play. Yeah,

413
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:18.039
there's a sophisticated Oh there it is
lip show cantad disinformation campaign targeting the

414
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:26.519
US populace, which is extremely unethical
and immoral. US saying intelligence representative at

415
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.920
a high level from the US government
is saying publicly, we are not alone.

416
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.799
We're definitely not alone. Absolutely the
data points. All right, now

417
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.079
this was from behind, but watch
this. He says absolutely the data points.

418
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.920
Just watch his head during that.
We're definitely not alone. Absolutely,

419
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.880
the data points. Absolutely, the
data points. So that was a pretty

420
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.759
clear headshake as he said that empirically
that we're not alone. Yeah, the

421
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.119
lip person again. Once again,
that goes back to anxiety and stress.

422
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.559
Does that mean he's lying? No, not necessarily. We oftentimes look for

423
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:01.880
that and lie and deceit because people
are stressed when they lie or when they're

424
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:07.200
being deceptive. It could also be
that it's stressful talking about or revealing secrets.

425
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:12.799
Do we have species both well?
Naturally, when you recover something that's

426
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:19.000
either landed or crashed, sometimes you
encounter dead pilots, and I believe it

427
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.839
or not as as fan So he's
closing his eyes as he's saying this.

428
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.039
I talk a lot about people closing
their eyes when they're talking. We oftentimes

429
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:29.279
do that when we're thinking about something
that we don't like. Now, does

430
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.519
that mean that he's lying? Not
necessarily. Sometimes it can be used as

431
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.319
a way to deceive. It could
just mean that he's thinking about something he

432
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.759
doesn't want to think about, or
something he doesn't like. But it's a

433
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.119
it's a behavior worth noting. Let's
watch him say this again. Sometimes you

434
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:45.359
encounter dead pilots, the psychologist is
always believe or not. As as fantastical

435
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:51.599
as that sounds, it's true.
And as we saw there was a pretty

436
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.519
vigorous headshake as he said it's true. Let's watch that again. As as

437
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:01.039
fantastical as that sounds, it's true. And the quarters of his mouth are

438
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.119
tied again, which once again suggests
stress or anxiety. So I've got to

439
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.559
be bunch about this. You're not
making this up. This is not a

440
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.759
lie. No, absolutely not.
So now you're seeing him vigorously shake his

441
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.839
head no. So you might be
asking yourself, well, if he's answering

442
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.000
this and showing this body language here, doesn't that contradict what you were saying

443
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:21.519
a second ago. Well, not
necessarily, because something that we see and

444
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.279
we see this on trials all the
time, because normally am analyzing trials,

445
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.759
is that when people are asked a
question directly and they want to have a

446
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.359
very strong point about it, they
can have body language consistent even if it's

447
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.319
not the truth, so they can
say no and shake their head very vigorously.

448
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.519
Is that it occasionally spills out occasionally
they don't hide it. Well,

449
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:43.880
everybody watching this right now is looking
at your face. They're going, it's

450
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.640
this guy for real, I am
for real? And once again they were

451
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.079
the eyes closed, I am for
real now, That could just mean that

452
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.519
he's stressed talking about this. It
could also be a sign of sa take

453
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.559
a position inside which you think it
is. So what conclusions can we come

454
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.279
to after watching this interview? Well, definitely had a lot of stress.

455
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.240
He definitely showed a lot of concern. There were times where it suggested a

456
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.360
lack of confidence. Does that mean
he's being deceptive or lying? Not necessarily,

457
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.079
But what it does mean is that
it brings forth a lot of stress

458
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.079
and anxiety, something that we share. I'm going to hire this guy.

459
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.760
It's not the only reason people show
that. What I find harder to get

460
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:22.320
past is him shaking his head no
when saying things are the affirmative. So

461
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.679
do I believe that he's privy the
information that suggests that we have nonhuman pilots

462
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.960
that we've found. I'm not convinced
yet. I definitely want to see more,

463
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.199
but I'm open to seeing and hearing
more about this as we continue.

464
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.039
I'm sure this isn't the last we've
heard of this. I'm really curious what

465
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.320
y'all think about body language y'all noticed. But before we wrap up, I

466
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.639
do want to remind you to like
and subscribe if you want to see more

467
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.360
content just like this. All right, Bob, this is now our new

468
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:51.400
resident expert on body language. He's
always fifty fifty. I'm coming to you,

469
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.360
Brian, I want your body language
expertise. This guy was a waste.

470
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.960
I'm sorry. I'm not necessarily going
to have any kinds of opinions necessary

471
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.960
barely on necessarily anything. Yeah,
here's the bottom line for me. I've

472
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.679
talked to a lot of people who
did a lot of lying. Right.

473
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.880
Most of the people, unfortunately,
that I dealt with in the course of

474
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.960
my daily career in my sixteen years
in law enforcement, told a lot of

475
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:22.880
lies because they were in stressful situations. They were trying to avoid taking responsibility

476
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.599
for what they were doing, they
were trying not to go to jail,

477
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:29.639
a whole litany of reasons. Right, you know, I'm joking, But

478
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.320
this guy is really he's not taking
a stance because it's almost impossible for him

479
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:36.159
to take a stance on any of
that stuff. Because here's the thing that

480
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.440
we don't have, and I think
it's important for us to all really understand.

481
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.519
We don't have a baseline for this
David Grush guy. Right, we

482
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:49.079
haven't seen fifteen or twenty interviews of
him, to compare side by side to

483
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.239
what he's saying now when he's talking
about mundane stuff. Yeah, we just

484
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:57.039
found a satellite that crashed the earth, you know, from nineteen twenty,

485
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:01.280
and just mundane stuff that doesn't have
anything to do with aliens or crashed craft.

486
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:05.519
So if you don't have a baseline
for what this guy looks like when

487
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.599
he's talking about his golf game or
what I just I just swallowed really hardly.

488
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.440
Man, I may be nervous about
what I'm saying. Well, that

489
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.239
means you're either really nervous, or
you're lying, or you're telling the truth

490
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:22.320
or not necessarily stressed me out.
So if you don't have him thing about

491
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:28.760
his kids or his golf game,
and then you compare that side by side,

492
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:30.679
he may be a really animated guy. See I'm shaking my head no

493
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:35.400
as I'm talking, because I'm getting
a little animated because I'm a little amped

494
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:39.199
up about our resident expert who just
really didn't take any stance on anything.

495
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:43.440
So yeah, I mean it's easy
to say all of those things. Everything

496
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:49.039
he pointed out is a possibility of
him being deceptive. It is something that

497
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:54.400
happens in deceptive people, But do
people who aren't being deceptive every single day?

498
00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:00.119
In general? Mundane convergations absolutely one
content that they do so an and

499
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.000
of themselves. It really means nothing
in the context of what we're talking about,

500
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.639
except for this dude is on television, the reporter basically pointing in his

501
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.960
face, saying, everybody in America
is looking at you right now. Would

502
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.760
that make you a little nervous?
Maybe, would your persh your lips maybe,

503
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:21.079
would your lips show a little discontent
or whatever? Whatever the word was?

504
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.559
Contempt? Excuse me, but yeah, I think he looks like a

505
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.280
guy who's telling the truth to me. Okay, just my opinion. He's

506
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.079
wig out because he does. I'm
sure it makes makes him feel sick to

507
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.280
his stomach to even what he's doing. Yeah, well, okay, you

508
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:37.119
guys have swayed me. You know. My take is, do I believe

509
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:44.960
in the conspiracy theory that the US
intelligence agencies are doing this to proactively conduct

510
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.159
a PSI op to convince our foes
that we have alien tech therefore don't with

511
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.480
us. No, I don't believe
that. Do I believe that this guy

512
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:58.920
is going to risk his entire career
to come out and maybe write some books

513
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:05.159
based on this. I guess that's
possible. But if he was already high

514
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.960
level in the intelligence agency, it's
not like he needs you know, money

515
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.559
necessarily. I assume he had a
decent salary and all that kind of stuff.

516
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:20.199
Why would you put yourself out there
and make wild claims that the intelligence

517
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.360
agencies could just come out and say
completely false, and here's documentation to show

518
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:29.360
that it's false. So you know, for me, I can't. It's

519
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:35.639
hard for me to fathom somebody coming
out and doing this. And also ross

520
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.079
coltheart I have a lot of respect
for him. You know, he's a

521
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:46.480
true investigative journalist, award winning exactly
of the old sort. So you know,

522
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.880
I'm crossing my fingers that this is
real, because if it turns out

523
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.400
that it's fake, like I said
earlier, I think it puts the nail

524
00:38:53.440 --> 00:39:00.960
in the coffin of the UAP disclosure
issue, nobody's going to take it seriously.

525
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.960
Ever again, no matter who comes
out and says anything, and that

526
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.840
would be a real shame. It's
like what you have to deal with sometimes,

527
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:14.079
Brian, where you have hoaxers on
the Bigfoot issue and they make all

528
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:19.920
the real bigfoot shit look like shit. But that's been happening with UFOs UAPs.

529
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.760
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, it's definitely something that happens

530
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.920
throughout But I go back to what
you guys were just saying. At the

531
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.360
end of the day, you have
to take a look at what this guy

532
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:35.360
has to gain versus what he has
to lose, and way the two options

533
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.679
and way the two side by side
to say, what is his motivation here?

534
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:45.159
If he's not trying to be a
stand up guy and tell Americans what

535
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.280
they should have been told from their
government for decades, what does he have

536
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.800
to gain from that? Well,
he'll go down in history possibly as the

537
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:54.719
guy who did that, and he
can stand on his own merits and say,

538
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.079
you know, I bucked the system, I did what was right.

539
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.320
I am a whistleblower. Call me
what you want, but I did the

540
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:06.920
right thing. Versus I can't even
fathom what the motivation would be personal motivation

541
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.760
would be for him to come out
and risk everything that he's worked for and

542
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:15.840
I'm sure a six figure plus salary
and a nice pension in retirement and security

543
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.760
for his family beyond his years to
just come out and make some kind of

544
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:24.119
crazy ass claims about UFOs and dead
aliens. It just doesn't make sense.

545
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:28.079
The only thing that would make sense
as what you were saying, Chad,

546
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.960
is if he is a plant from
the government and somehow he's taken a fall

547
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:36.039
here as the patsy to say,
Okay, we've got to stop this UAP

548
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.360
disclosure crap. So we got to
come up with this, put it out

549
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:43.880
there, and once this is debunked
and we prove that you are crazy and

550
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.280
none of this stuff really happened,
nobody's ever going to take it seriously again.

551
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:51.559
That could be the motivation. I
just don't see it. Stay tuned

552
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:59.239
for more Sasquat Jealousy will be right
back after these messages, right, So

553
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.800
hopefully he didn't like right on the
rooms of paper himself and like crayon that

554
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.840
he turned in. That would be
bad. So I do have one more

555
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:16.760
theory from the Alex Wing Jones excuse
me, the Alex Jones wings. Alex

556
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:24.519
Wing, the Alex Jones wing of
the conspiracy theory. Yes, thank you,

557
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:30.559
Alex. There is this conspiracy called
Project Blue Beam. Have you heard

558
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:36.880
of this? This is the idea
that the US government. It's taken many

559
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.000
forms over the years, but the
current form is that the US government and

560
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:52.119
the United Nations are going to work
together to fake a alien invasion of UFOs

561
00:41:52.719 --> 00:42:00.719
to bring the entire world together and
cause the true one world government, aka

562
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:06.400
the New World Order, because now
we're not fighting against each other, we're

563
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:13.280
fighting against the alien agenda, and
use that as the reason to basically enslave

564
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:22.039
us under this New World Order.
Yes, thank you, Alex. So,

565
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.440
I don't know if I buy that
one either. Yeah, I don't.

566
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:29.360
I don't see that happening. Didn't
Ronald Reagan say something about that during

567
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:34.079
one of his United Nations speeches?
If that famous speech is how would our

568
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.440
differences disappear if there was a threat
from outside of our world kind of thing?

569
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:43.760
Yeah, he did. Perhaps we
need some outside universal threat to make

570
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:52.119
us recognize this common bound. I
occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would

571
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:58.599
vanish if we were facing an alien
threat from outside this world. And yet,

572
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:02.679
I ask you, is not an
alien force already among us? What

573
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:08.880
could be more alien to the universal
aspirations of our people's than war and the

574
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.960
threat of war? I just I
don't see that. That's a really far

575
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.559
out there conspiracy theory. Again.
I've said it on my show and I've

576
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.639
said it as a guest on other
shows. People would be very surprised what

577
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:25.559
the government don't know and what they're
incapable of doing and organizing anything on that

578
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.880
kind of a scale I think is
just beyond the pale for certainly our government.

579
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.880
And when you start throwing in world
governments outside of ours, I just

580
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.519
don't. I don't see that.
So do you think they're capable of hiding

581
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:44.199
UFO craft, UAP craft and pilots. Absolutely, it's all over the world

582
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.159
retrieving them. I definitely believe that. And some people that have sort of

583
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.920
poo pooed that kind of conspiracy quote
unquote conspiracy theory over the years have pointed

584
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.159
to that. So they throw out
the red herrings of you know, the

585
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.400
government can't do this or they can't
do that. It would be impossible to

586
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.840
do that on such a large scale, and so many people involved, somebody

587
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:07.000
would come forward. Well, people
have come forward. Bob Blazar came forward

588
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.199
and look where that got him,
you know, I mean he was a

589
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.920
huge, in my opinion, whistleblower
back in the day. I don't know

590
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.280
how you guys feel Oh, I
swallowed really hard. Again. I don't

591
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:20.639
know how you guys feel about Bob
Blazar, but I believe a story and

592
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.119
I really didn't until I saw that
documentary they did a couple of years ago,

593
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.400
and there was some weird shit that
happened in that documentary that really convinced

594
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:30.440
me that the dudes telling the truth. Yeah, I believe bab Blazar.

595
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.960
I think Chad's on the other side
of the flat. Well you you did

596
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.679
you listen to that one podcast?
Did? I still believe him. Yeah,

597
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.559
even though he put forward all that
evidence about how he was up to

598
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.400
a lot of shenanigans basically his whole
life. Everyone's up a lot of snangians

599
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.599
when you're young, Okay, Yeah, I'm not going to discount Bob Bazarre

600
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.280
because he was like those weren't shenanigans, like smoking a little weed that was

601
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:57.719
like cunning people for Yeah, because
he's like a genius. Okay, well,

602
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.280
so when you're young and dumb and
you're like half genius at that time,

603
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:05.000
he was trying to make money,
like it was a prostitution ring or

604
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.960
something. I'm on the fence with
Bob Blazar if if you asked me to

605
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.400
pick a side. Put a gun
to my head, said you have to

606
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:15.159
pick one or the other. I
would probably have to go with Bob Lazar's

607
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:16.440
full of shit. Yeah, I
knew that. That's why I said,

608
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:21.360
you're other the side of the fence. Based on the information in that podcast

609
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.079
that but DoD he was young and
dumb trying. Maybe he was dating a

610
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.280
hooker, a prosty and then he
ended up so maybe he met a So

611
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.079
I don't know, Brian, if
there's some stuff that's come out about Bob

612
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:37.320
Bazar when he was younger. It's
not just about dating a prostitute. It's

613
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.840
about conning for a living for quite
a while, right, But okay,

614
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.639
it's a bad way to start.
I'm thinking he started dating this girl,

615
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.239
she ends up being a prostitut when
they get to their house. Next thing,

616
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.360
though, he's running the whole ring
or has the house. Like,

617
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.559
because he's smart, I don't discount
him because of that stupid mistake he made

618
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.599
as a young Yeah. Like I
said, that's not the only reason.

619
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.719
There was a lot more information that
I can't recall right now, I have

620
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:05.559
to listen to the podcast you're talking
about, because I haven't heard any of

621
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.360
it. You know, I don't
want to be out there beating the Bob

622
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.880
Blizzard drum without holding and so I
definitely want to look into that myself.

623
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.280
But it also negatively impacted his life
that he said he wishes he never would

624
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:19.360
have come out. Yeah, I
mean that's what you would say. Yeah,

625
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.199
but does he make money off I
don't think he made like a ship

626
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.519
ton of money off. Again,
in that podcast, they there were indications

627
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.039
that he did make some money.
He didn't get like, well, yeah,

628
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.320
of course, did he get independently
wealthy? But he was making some

629
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:36.079
money. So why not get independently
wealthy if that's his goal? Because he's

630
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.000
pretty smart. It's all conjecture.
I don't know, right, he could

631
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.039
be absolutely on the up and up. So I'm not, like I said,

632
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.400
I'm mostly on the fence. It's
just if you held a gun to

633
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:51.280
my head and made me choose which
I will do, not do that all

634
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:52.079
right? So what do you think
about this guy? What do you think

635
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.000
about this David Grush guy. Do
you think he's telling them the truth?

636
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.639
I mean, what does your gut
tell you? I know you had some

637
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.800
issues at the beginning of the episode
that may be Chad, and I have

638
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.639
swayed you from But where are you
on your good with whether this guy's on

639
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.920
the up and up or not.
Man, I want to believe, and

640
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:15.039
I'm a little nervous that my desire
to believe will sway me towards believing him.

641
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.519
That's why you're trying not to believe. But I can't. I can't,

642
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:22.480
no, no, no, I
cannot help the gut reaction that I

643
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.719
had when I watched this for the
first time, and there was something about

644
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.039
his body language that just didn't seem
right to me. But all that said,

645
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.719
right now I think I'm I am
believing and I can't wait for the

646
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.159
full interview on Sunday, which,
like I said, Ross Coolhart said,

647
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.639
is going to be shocking. So
I'm thinking here's what I'm thinking. So

648
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.840
his asses pucker the whole interview.
He's and he's upset. He's been lied

649
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.000
to in the government agencye he didn't
he's on the UAP whatever project and he's

650
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.800
not being told about another part of
the government that knows a bunch of shit.

651
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:01.000
Yes, he's pissed. His asses
pucker at his spouse maybe supports him

652
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:05.199
or not, who knows. And
his life maybe ruin. So that's why

653
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.000
I'm thinking he's showing content like mouth
actions. Well, I don't the contempt

654
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:15.960
mouth thing was not not part of
my consideration. But you can tell he

655
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.679
didn't even believe it in the beginning
and he doesn't even want to believe it

656
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.039
now, I think. But he
just he's like, this is what I

657
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.679
is, and he's shaking his head
no because he's like, well you're convinced.

658
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.360
I mean, why that I can
see. Also, I'm thinking he's

659
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.119
like before in the pre interview,
he's like Ross cold Heart, they said

660
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.679
there'd be more of us, and
he's the only one. I mean,

661
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.039
you know, you would think you'd
come in numbers, not just one,

662
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.320
the first guy that went on a
Sunday, Like I said, I have

663
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:44.840
a lot of faith in Ross Coolheart. So I'm hoping against hope that this

664
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.639
is the real deal that would grab
a colleague. If I was gonna like

665
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.400
out like he may end up living
in Russia with snowdon you don't know who

666
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.400
you can trust at that point.
True, but you would think when I

667
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.639
did my before my Congress this closure, I'd be like, are there more

668
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.239
of us? Or is it only
me? You know? What I mean,

669
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.199
because they could bury it and then
you know it's the end. Yeah,

670
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.639
well, thank god for that NDAA
legislation that included protection. Yeah.

671
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.559
So what is that though? So
there's black projects who could do whatever they

672
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.000
want, That's what I'm saying.
No, but what it is so I

673
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.840
can't I can't speak towards his like
physical safety, like if you were to

674
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:28.320
believe that the intelligence agencies are going
to send the American version of James Bond

675
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.400
to assassinate him in his bed or
something. I don't know about any of

676
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:37.679
that stuff. What it really does
is if you are read into a top

677
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:44.119
secret program sci compartmentalized information that you
only know if you need to know.

678
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:49.360
And even Lazarre talked about this,
how the guy working on this aspect only

679
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.159
knew that, and the guy on
this back aspect only knew that, and

680
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.440
the two of them didn't know how
the two came together because they're only read

681
00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:00.639
into their compartment. If you're read
into one of those programs and you divulge

682
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.360
the information publicly, you can be
prosecuted and put in jail for a very

683
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:09.719
long time. So that legislation prevents
that from happening for anybody who comes forward

684
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:15.639
about black projects related to the reverse
engineering of alien craft. And that's why

685
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.800
he's now able to come out.
So who did that? What congressperson?

686
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.840
Amazingly, this is one of the
few bipartisan things that it comes out of

687
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:30.599
Washington. It was several Republicans,
including Rubio and several Democrats I don't remember

688
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:36.039
any of the names, who put
the legislation into the NDAA and all agreed

689
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.519
on it, so they can't blame
you. Whatever the hell else we need

690
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.760
them to do. But when it
comes to UFOs, they seem to be

691
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:45.159
able to get bipartisan, so at
least that's good. Yeah, yeah,

692
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.920
I'm somewhere, I'm sure buried somewhere
in the bill. They all got mansions

693
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.559
built on top of that funding,
but we won't talk about that. That's

694
00:50:52.559 --> 00:51:00.639
airmarked bridges to nowhere. All right, Well, that's our special report of

695
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:04.079
this evening. Stay tuned on Sunday, which I'm sure we will talk about

696
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:08.280
next week. We do have another
interview this evening, another Targeted Individual is

697
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:14.639
coming on, but that will air
later in the week. Brian, thank

698
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.199
you so much for joining us this
evening, And like I said in the

699
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:23.719
beginning, we are honored to be
part of the Paranormal World Productions network and

700
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:29.719
hopefully we'll be seeing you at the
conference in Tennessee. Yeah, the Smoky

701
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:35.320
Mountain Bigfoot Conference. Yes, yes, awesome. So, as you know,

702
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.679
Brian, words of wisdom are thing. So what you got for us

703
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:45.039
tonight? Don't rat out the government? Your wake up dead? Well,

704
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.320
that's definitely words of wisdom to live
by, Bob. What do you have?

705
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.639
So mine are for David Gulsh that
you may be now a target individual.

706
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.360
I hope not. But maybe that's
why he's so waked back because he

707
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:59.039
knows the power of the government.
Maybe they're sending the microwaves to him now

708
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.559
or the freak and caes or what. I just hope he makes it and

709
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.639
like, isn't suicide? Did yeah? Yeah, yeah, awesome guys.

710
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:09.079
We're glad to have you a part
of the family and it was an honor

711
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.519
being here. I really appreciate it. Okay, well, good words of

712
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:19.119
wisdom there. My words of wisdom
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713
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714
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715
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