And we're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle,
senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for
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you download your podcast, and of course to the premium version of our website
as well. I'm joined today by Dandiker, president of the Jerusalem Center for
Public Affairs, a leading independent research institute serving as Israel's global embassy for national
security and applied diplomacy. Israel obviously very key area as it has been for
so long now in the war on terror, although others want to reshape that
argument in the world today and in this country. Dan, thank you so
much for joining us in the Federalist Radio Hour. Thank you for having us,
and I just want to share with our listeners that Drewso Center for Public
Affairs has now become Drewsom Center for Foreign Affairs, being Israel's engine outside the
government for Foreign affairs for exposing Isabella Hamas and the Iranian access of terror.
We can still be found at JCPA dot org. But we are renamed the
Jrusom Center for Foreign Affairs. Good to note and let's start there. Actually,
you've been doing this for a long time. You've been leading that organization
for some time. Tell us what the organization is doing, has done,
and is doing today well. Jewson Center for many years, Jews Center for
Public Affairs is one of Israel's leading conservative think tank do tanks that basically pioneered,
if you will, a number of different Israeli security policies that are basically
consensus driven, for example, defensible borders for Israel. Israel is such a
small country. It's about eighteen percent the size of Iowa. And you know,
we are basically between the size of Maryland and New Jersey, with nine
million people surrounded by three hundred and fifty million Arab Muslims. And now that,
thank God, the Abraham Accords in twenty twenty, historic development in the
Middle East changed the balance certainly of allies versus adversaries. Israel is still surrounded
by the Iranian regime and it's death cult proxies Hisballah in the North, and
as we speak on this podcast, they are sending killer drones and rocket.
It's into the north of Israel, into the north center of Israel. We
have eighty five thousand people displaced within our own country. If you can imagine,
take eighty five thousand people, multiply it, multiply it by thirty five,
and there you have the number of Americans that would be displaced by an
enemy that's sitting on America's borders. This is an impossible situation, but it's
one that Israel that the Jrusalem Center for Foreign Affairs has been monitoring and countering
for years, exposing the Iranian regime and its terror proxy strategy. And I
think after October seventh, which in which the Iranian regime finance strategized, arms,
supplied, and inspired it's sunny proxies called Hamas, we know that Tehran
is the address. It's the address for a lot of the terror activity that's
actually going on out of the United States' southern border, working directly with the
Mexican drug cartels, working directly in the Triborder area in the southern part of
Latin America. This is a global threat that with the drewsm Center, Public
Republic and now Foreign Affairs have been trying to alert the world to this threat.
It's not just a threat against the Jews, it's not just a threat
against the Jewish state. It's a threat against America. And the Jewsim Center
for Foreign Affairs is committed to raising this alarm and to really trying to caution
the great American people as to this Iranian global threat that it says itself intention
is to take over the world. That's what it says. That the Ahmedinajad,
the former prime minister, former president of Iran, made it very clear
some twenty years ago, and the Raisi the current leader under Ali Khamenei,
they grant the aetola has made it very clear to the Middle East, and
they've made it the make very clear to the West. And it's really incumbent
upon the West Matt to wake up and understand that the Iranian regime, it's
on his borders. Iranian regime has the complete intention of trying to take over,
destroy and take over the West, one country at a time. As
you said, Dan, you know, this isn't something that just popped up
overnight. Unfortunately, there are some people who truly believe this in this country
and elsewhere in the world. I mean, Israel has been fighting for its
very existence from the beginning of existence as a nation, not even a century
old country now after World War II, the foundation of Israel, and this
has been a struggle, of course, an existential struggle since the very beginning
of the formation of the country. But nothing like what happened on October seventh.
Take me there personally for you and to the citizens of Israel what that
day was like, because because you are in Israel on a very frequent basis,
of course, well I live in Israel. My son, who is
actually with me right here in New York right now, is in a very
sensitive, very sensitive position in this current Iranian attack against us, and so
I'm very very well aware of what's been going on. Just one point of
context here, Matt. Israel's re establishment in nineteen forty eight was the third
time in history that the Jewish sovereignty was established. Remember, Israel one of
the oldest nations in the world. We're thirty six hundred years old. We
were in the the land of Israel three thousand years ago in King David and
then his son King Solomon established Jerusalem as israel capital. And then we were
exiled, as you know, by the Bibb. We were exiled by the
Babylonians, came back under King Cyrusly, the Persian king who enabled us,
allowed us to re establish our capital in Jerusalem, and then we had another
five hundred years of independence until the Romans massacred us and mass murdered kicked us
out. So the nineteen forty eight was the third time in history that there
was a Jewish commonwealth, independent commonwealth in the very land of Israel that the
state of Israel exists today. So why do I go to great pains to
point that out to your listeners? Is that what the Palestinian Arabs have been
saying for the last hundred years. They didn't even call themselves Palestinians. As
a matter of fact, Jews were called Palestinians beginning the beginning of last century,
and the Arabs were just called They called themselves Arabs. Their capital was
in Damascus, it was not in Ramala, it was not in Israel.
So the point here being that they, the Arabs in what had been called
British Mandate Palesteine and then subsequent to Israel's re establishment nineteen forty eight, had
basically called israelis a colonialist imperialists, when in fact it was the Islamic Empire,
you know, in the seventh century that was one of the biggest imperial
colonialist powers in the world, enslaving Africans and enslaving other Arabs. And so
the idea of calling Israel colonialists is really just a contemporary strategic attempt to delegitimize
the indigenous people in the Middle East, which are the Jews. The vast
majority of Israelis today come from Arab lands and predated Islam so by fifteen hundred
years. So this whole notion of the colonialization of the indigenous population of the
Jewish state is merely a political warfare tool. The Soviets used it, the
Nazis used it, the Arabs used it, and in fact they're trying to
cast us as white Europeans when Israel is not a white European country. It
is a brown and black majority country and has been since for thirty six hundred
years. So just to make that contextual point is very important because that's been
the so called Palestinian Arab strategy, is to try to delegitimize Israel, to
try to cast us as another South African apartheid country. You know when in
fact, they know darn well who the indigenous population is here. And October
seventh was a reminder that, as we said on your radio show just the
other day, that in fact, what we are facing as the United States,
as Israel, as the whole Western alliance, is holy war. It
is jihad. That is what Hamas taught the free world on October the seventh.
So for people to think that October the seventh was an extension of the
Palestinian Israeli conflict, which was, you know, always casts as a territorial
conflict, one that is political in nature, one that can be that can
be solved by creating another Palestinian state. It's absolutely not the case. And
that's what Hamas was trying to teach us by calling it the al Aksa flood.
If you notice, the Hamas always uses religious references when they engage in
mass murder, torture, mass rape, and brutalization of our people, because
for them, this is a religious experience. For the Hamas, this is
jihad. It is the world of war versus the world of Islam. And
it's once it's a binary choice. Either you're with them, it's either you're
in favor of a wak what they call a holy trust in Islamic holy trust,
which they think every every ounce, every inch of the land of Israel
is part of Islam. It is not, it should not be accorded to
Jews any legitimacy whatsoever. And in fact, they see they see Israel as
an extension of the United States in the Middle East. This is what Osama
bin Laden said just ten years before nine to eleven and on nine to eleven
itself. So that's the way that extremist Islam, whether it's the Shiite variety
coming out of Tehran, or whether it's the Salafi Jihada's variety that we see
in Isis and al Qaida, they see this as a epic religious war of
Islam against the Christians and the Jews. That's the way this is. That's
what October seventh was about. It was about a war against the Christians and
the Jews by the civilization of radical Islam. I mean, the history is
clear, it's robust, and it's clear. I mean, we understand the
battles that have gone on over millennia in this fight. So I guess the
question that comes up is how why do you think that this unholy war that
Hamas and the you know, their supporters, their backers have pushed. Why
do you think that they have gained so much currency as victims in what happened
following a previous before October seven, twenty twenty three and after, Because it's
very difficult for the rational human mind to look at what happened on October seven,
twenty twenty three, to look at the crimes against humanity, the worst
attack on Jews and Israel, on Jews in general since the Holocaust. You
know, these were barbaric acts of inhumanity perpetrated in the name of some sort
of listed religious idea. And that's that's very clear, it should be very
clear to most people. And yet you know this victimhood of Hamas, and
you know the people who live there who back Hamas and who provide resources to
Maas, who support them, and a vast majority of people living in Gaza
support Hamas. How does that How do we get to that point where somehow
they are the victims in this struggle? Well, first of all, there
is a cognitive dissonance taking place here. The Arab Muslim establishment, Saudi Arabia,
Bahrain, the United United Arab Emirates, Morocco, the Middle Eastern countries
know that October seventh was a savage, barbaric act by a bunch of uh,
you know, by a bunch of savages. They know that what what
the success, the success of Hamas has been, the success of Hamas has
been in the West, uh. And and what they have done is to
convince uh, the the Western discourse that that they are victims. And this
is this happened some decades ago in what is called the Red Green Alliance,
meaning the alliance of grievances between radical secular Marxist secular Marxist ideology as well as
connecting intersecting with Islamic ideology around the notion that they are victims. The Islamists
claim that they are the victims of the West, and the the red which
is the Marxist, the Stalinist, the Marxist Leninists, they claim that they
are the victis of the of the of the capitalists West. And they they
see, you know, white supremacist capitalists in the West and Israel among them,
as victimizing them. So you have here an intersectionality, a convergence of
radical victim the sense of victimization and The odd thing is that so many of
the supporters of Hamas in the West would themselves be murdered, like the lgt
b Q community, A lot of the minority communities that are supporting Hamas would
themselves be murdered within minutes about entering Gaza because their far left ideologies are an
anathema to the Hamas itself. But what what Yasir Arafat succeeded to do decades
ago is to read the sense of self guilt that was evolving in America,
particularly during the Vietnam years, the sense that America had a profound civil disagreement
among whether you know whether the Soviet back North Vietnamese. You know, that
whole what they called the Domino effect, that the Soviets had prosecuted wars in
North Korea and then in Vietnam, and the civil discourse in America that was
unsure whether it should be at war, you know, nine thousand miles away,
where the Soviets were gobbling up countries one after the other, and Ora
fought. Understood in those years that America had sort of lost its mojo,
had lost its confidence, had been split down the middle. We remember the
Columbia university riots back in nineteen sixty eight. Here you have the Columbia University
riots in twenty twenty four. Then they weren't targeting the Jews. Here they
are. And the reason is guess what else happened in nineteen sixty eight or
nineteen sixty seven. Israel was nearly extinguished by four Arab countries, and it
miraculously won the nineteen sixty seven war, and in a miraculous move, in
six days, it tripled its size against its will, it tripled its sides.
It won the Sinai Desert, It won the Golan Heights, it won
Judensumari otherwise known as the former West Bank of Jordan, all within six days.
So while America was questioning itself and its own virtue, its own sense
of justice, its own sense of being a victor versus a victim, Israel
won a stunning defeat against four Arab countries and tripled its size. So it
was that it was that sort of perfect storm, if you will, that
all of a sudden began to recast Israel decades ago in the late nineteen sixties
early nineteen seventies as this sort of colonialist, this fake but perceptibly colonialist power
that had tripled its size, even though it went against his will. So
you began to see the seeds of this already decades ago, and Arafat played
it perfectly. He recast as the white South Africa. He racialized the conflict.
He connected with the as you remember the Civil rights movement and then the
black militancy movement in the United States with Malcolm X and Lewis Farrakhan and Stokely
Carmichael and Huey Newton. Arafat connected with those leaders and basically recast Israel the
way many in the United States were recasting the United States as an oppressor,
as a colonialist, as an empire, as white supremacist. And there you
have it. That was sort of the run up and the context to October
the seventh in the minds of not a few people, you know, in
the left, the American left. This has been cooking, This has been
bubbling for decades, and it really exploded on on October the seventh. And
that is why we see this unholy as you call it, this sort of
unholy alliance between the radical Islamist and the radical Marxist Lenin has left here in
America. It has been cooking now for fifty to sixty years, and I
think what we have seen, as you mentioned October seventh, is you know,
a day that will truly should live in infamy. But again for this
unholy alliance, it is a day to celebrate what is I think astounding for
Americans. And I think you just laid the groundwork as to why this happened.
But what we saw in our college campuses from Columbia once again, you
know, fifty years later, basically now you have an entire environment that is
going on at Columbia and universities across the country where you had pro Palestinian pro
Hamas demonstrations. You have so much anti Semitism that's going on in our college
campuses. And I think there are a lot of Americans who watched that and
said, how how did we get here? I think you just explained that.
But I'm I think that the educational system in America, the indoctrination that
has taken place in our institutions of higher education and now that's going on,
you know, in our in our elementary and high schools across the country,
that has informed the Marxist mind in this movement, in this alliance, as
well, wouldn't you agree? Absolutely? In fact, America is going through
in its in its blue cities, you know, a crisis. You know,
your gender is up for grabs. There's there's no you know, you
can't you can't lie about your address, right, your addresses, your address,
but you can lie about your gender. You can convince yourself. You
know, people are convincing themselves that they're men, if they're women, if
they're boys, if they're girls. And our institutions are in our school institutions
are actually in some way celebrating and sympathizing with these choices where everything is subjective,
there's no more objective truth. And if we have a world in which
there's no objective truth and that anything is accepted, well, then you know,
Jews can be you know, Jews can be recast as evil once again,
the Jewish state can be recast as a source of evil. You can
actually, though, the Hamas celebrated mass raping of children and women, documenting
it in their own go pro cameras and then denying it and having those denials
be affirmed by people, by young men and women going to places like Harvard
and Yale and Penn and you know, University of Michigan even you know,
and and the New York University system is absolutely astounding that that they themselves,
the Hamas themselves, are celebrating these barbaric acts of middle of middle age savagery.
And yet people, you know, and you have faculty members by the
hundreds across these universities saying, no, there's no proof that had happened.
So, you know, in a in a world that celebrates boys becoming girls
and girls becoming boys, and Jews, you know, and Jews becoming the
sources of evil everything, this is a world that's because that's that's that's turning
upside down. So this is part of the intersectionality of grievances between everyone in
America that sees him or herself as a victim and they have linked with these
unlikely partners and allies in you know, an extremist right wing Islam, which
is the ultimate Is that not the ultimate irony, It is the ultimate irony.
Dan Diyker, president of the Jerusalem Center for Foreign Affairs, joining us
on this edition of the Federalist Radio Hour, you just noted it in how
remarkable we've seen such a change of course in our institutions of higher education.
At one time, of course, you could count on these institutions of higher
education to educate. And within that realm of education was the very real and
tragic history of what happened in Nazi Germany, in countries in Eastern Europe,
of course, in the Holocaust, the movement to destroy a people. And
it is just absolutely astounding how we are at this point. As you just
mentioned, now we have people denying the current attempt at the Holocaust. Remarkable
how things change. It is remarkable that while the Iranian regime Hamas and Isbelah
are trying to execute a publicly declared Holocaust, people denying the last Holocaust against
the Jews, while their enemies are trying to carry out the next one.
So that you know, that sort of I think sharpens the message here.
And in fact the people talking about well, Israel can't really win in Gaza
because it can't defeat the Hamas, it can't defeat ideology. Well, if
history serves us properly, Matt, I think that our viewers, I'm sorry,
our listeners, remember that the United States and its allies defeated Nazi Germany
and World War two and Imperial Japan in World War Two, and today the
Federal Republic of Germany and the Japanese are allies of the United States. So
it is possible to defeat these extremist and these extremist ideologies because these extremist ideologies
require a geographical location in order to seed their poisonous roots and develop and use
a power base in order to threaten the three Free world. So if America
determine what victory looks like, even if there were you know how many millions
of civilians were killed in the Second World War on America's road to victory,
and today you have twenty four thousand civilians that were killed have been killed in
Gaza, mostly because the Hamas does everything it can to cause their death,
as the Wall Street Journal pointed out just the other day. And still you
have this complete cognitive dissonance in which Israel is being blamed for you know,
God forbid for genocide when Israel, and I know this firsthand, drops leaflets,
makes cell phone calls, does everything it can to get civilians out of
harm's way in Gaza, when in fact, the ultimate irony is there were
hundreds of documented cases of Gazen grandfathers and young people who took part in the
atrocities of October the seventh. So for people that say that the public is
should be separate, even the President of the United States said the Palestinian people
are not represented by Hamas. That's total hogwash. They voted, they voted
in the Hamas in two thousand and six, They've supported the Hamas since two
thousand and six, and they participated with the Hamas on October the seventh in
the worst mass atrocity against any democratic country, never mind the Jews, any
democratic country since the Second World War in one day. Well, there in
lies the real trouble in America in foreign policy, Dan Dyker, and that
is we have a president and an administration. The policy is conflicted, and
it's conflicted politically. It's hard not to see the sort of political calculus that
the President, Joe Biden, and his administration and his campaign are playing trying
to placate potential voters in swing state Michigan that have very different views than a
lot of Americans on what happened in Israel in October seventh and what's been happening
since. How do you feel about what is playing out, not only in
terms of policy today from the United States and its president, but the political
notions driving it. Well, first of all, I want to go on
record as saying that Israel has always been a bipart is an issue in the
United States. It's always been, you know, a subject of great support.
It's been, it's been an issue of support both by Democrats, by
both sides of the Aisle Republics and Democrats. But what happened, what has
happened is that it's unfortunately, it has become a domestic political football, I
think by the administration that certainly in an election year it started, it actually
started under the Obama administration to become a more to become sort of recast,
be fashioned as a domestic political issue. And then I think that I think
that in the in the trut years it had been for Trump did not make
it a domestic political issue, but the sharp left right divide in the United
States became even sharper in Israel became sort of thrust in with the with the
Republican side of the domestic political argument, even though from an Israeli point of
view, Israel embraces you know, the majority of Jews in America actually vote
they vote Democratic I mean, even though it may come down into the sixties
at this juncture, and I think that creates a challenge. It creates a
challenge for Israel and American Jews as well. But but nonetheless, the current
administration believes that it can turn leftward to get enough support from from Muslim Americans
in Michigan and Minnesota. But I believe that that, you know, Biden
will be hard pressed to to turn leftward enough in order to please that particular
constituency because the American people and the and they're duly elected representatives in the House
of Representatives in the Senate are overwhelmingly supportive and appreciative of of Israel. We
share the same values, we share the same worldview, you know, we
come from the same Judaeo Christian roots, and and we share the same future
of freedom, of democracy, of stability and security for all Americans. Uh.
And that and that very much would make Israel in a sense the Canary
and the Cold Mine, or makes Israel the front lines for America's war for
freedom and security, especially in the Middle East. So we're we're sort of
bound at the Judeo Christian hip for many for you know, several thousand years
and we're bound at the strategic hip because we share we share the same worldview,
and it is it is really a an issue that's very painful for Israel
to see that. You know that Unfortunately even my former roommate, Tony Blinken
is in not my room, my classmate at Harvard College nineteen eighty eight to
eighty four, has put Israel in a position of great compromise. To really
compromise the perception that we need to win, we must defeat the Hamas.
If we don't defeat the Hamas Hamas and the Isabella any Rad, they're coming
after America. I think that's what's lost in all of this. But politics
is politics, of course, and as you said, you're absolutely right.
You know, traditionally American Jews have voted for Democrats. That's been a reliable
voting block for them. I think that that is very much changing, subject
to change in this election. But what happens if Biden and the administration go
through with the threat where they plays on the side of you know, the
talking points about the destruction in Gaza and innocent lives on the line, all
of that sort of thing, and they refuse to send needed weaponry to Israel.
What happens, well, I think the United States will always send needed
weaponry because again the weaponry approval financial approvals really come from the people. They
come from the Congress of the United States. This is exactly why you know,
in the Obama administration, he had to approve the thirty billion dollars ten
year you know, financial package, because it's the will of American people.
I think that there have been many, many mistakes that have been made,
but I will say this, having lived in the Middle East and worked in
the Middle East for thirty five years, you can always count on America's enemies
and on Israel's enemies to help us straighten up and understand exactly who the enemy
really is. And today the number one enemy of freedom in the world is
the Iranian regime in Tehran. They are so dangerous, they are cunning,
they are foxy, and unfortunately they are underappreciated. The level of danger and
threat to the American people has still gone unappreciated in the public discourse in the
United States. But I do believe to answer your question, that the Iranian
regime will overreach. We are very close to a full fledged conflict in the
North that is being prosecuted by the Iranian regime by the way of their number
one terror proxy called the Hiabella. They basically control Lebanon, and if they
overplay their cards, they're going to they're going to find themselves. In my
assessment, they will find themselves thrust back into the Stone Age. So Iran
has to be very careful about the decisions that they make because the State of
Israel is completely united against this existential threat. And believe me, the Iranians
want to wipe out Israel. They tried to do it on October seventh,
They wanted to do it on April. In April of twenty twenty three.
They just didn't coordinate correctly with the Hamas, between the Hamas and Hibella.
But let's remember what happened. On April fourteenth, twenty twenty four. The
Iranian regime launched a three hundred missile drone attack against the State of Israel.
And they are playing with fire and I think that, you know, it
will remain to see what happens. But the United States, I believe,
will always step up to Israel's side because they understand the Iranian regimes number one
enemy is the United States they set it. Nineteen seventy nine, Grand at
Attola Holmenae set it. He said that America is the big Satan, and
they said Israel is a little Satan, and they're going after both of us.
So the American people have got to make their leadership aware that we have
got Iran must be stopped by all means necessary. Indeed, I believe that
everything you just said is right is Rain. I just happen to have my
misgivings about in administration that is, in effect, the sequel of an administration
under President Barack Obama who brought paletts of cash to Iran and fooled with a
nuclear deal that is very dangerous not only for the Middle East, not only
for Israel, but for America as well. Let me ask you this,
Dan, you live in Israel. I know you travel quite a bit,
But what is life like today in Israel? And we talk about the support
of America. Does Israel still have support from the Israelis? Well, it
does. The big issue, of course, is that we live in this
impossible, intolerable reality where we still have one hundred and twenty Israelis are being
held hostage and brutalized every day by the Hamas. I don't think there's a
precedent in modern political history. I mean, take take one hundred and twenty
and multiply that, you know by thirty five, and so you know you've
got what You've got five thousand, six thousand Americans being held hostage. Could
you imagine if five to six thousand Americans were being held hostage in a neighboring
country, what the United States would do to get them back? You know,
the the amount of destruction and power projection the American whatever American government would
happen to get their their people back from a Can you imagine al Kaieda after
nine to eleven, taking you know, five six thousand people hostage, not
to mention the fact that they killed three thousand Americans in one day. So
this is what Israel's living with domestically, and this is exactly what Iran and
the Hamas want. They wanted to to try to destroy Israel from the inside
by creating a type of societal internal societal warfare over the issue of the hostages.
Because even though Iran sacrifices its own people, the Hamas willingly sacrifice their
own people. They know that Israel loves every individual soul is a world of
itself, so that so it creates a tremendously difficult situation internally as to do
you what do you do to get those hostages back? And you know,
thus far Israel has taken every possible measure in order to get the right intelligence
to get its people back. But it does create internal internal challenges because look,
if either you or I were a mom or a dad, or a
brother or a sister or a family member of any one of those hostages,
we'd be out there demonstrating for their return at any cost as well. But
then again the question becomes, do you you know, what do you sacrifice?
What's the cost of compromising with the Jihati terror organization to get back one
hundred and twenty hostages and many of them are dead by the way. We
know that they've been executed in captivity, and we hope that that's not the
case, but from what we understand, it is the case. And you
know, what do you do in order not to signal weakness but to signal
overwhelming strength, especially to the rest of the Middle East. All eyes of
the Middle East are on Israel. What is Israel going to do? Will
it stick? It out and emerge victorious against this Jihati ter organization. The
Saudis are watching, the Iranians are watching, everyone's watching. So that's you
know, those stakes are very high as to what the cost of victory is
and what the cost of compromise. When people call for a cease fire,
Matt, they're talking about having Israel cease and having Hamas continue to fire.
Yeah, and that's the two front war that you're fighting. It's actually a
multifront war. But really, when you you know, it's everything that we
talked about on this podcast. It's not just the terrorist in Hamas. By
the way, I think it's important that we reiterate over and over again,
this is not These are not freedom fighters. These are terrorists listed as such
by the US State Department. And your former classmate, of course, is
the head of that in Anthony Blincoln. But you really are fighting a multi
front battle. You're fighting the battle against the terrorist, and you're fighting against
those who are aiding and abetting the terrorists. Quite frankly, those that are
constantly calling for ceasefire. And that's why we have one of our biggest moments
of a parent division in America. Certainly there is a small minority of people
doing this, but it's still playing out in the media today. It is
still becoming and still is an integral part of a conversation in this election.
And as you say, politics is the driver often in all of this.
So how do you how do you successfully fight these two battles at the same
time. Well, you're absolutely right. This multi front war, believe it
or not, we're fighting on at least seven fronts. It's extraordinary. There's
a country the size of New Jersey that is fighting seven fronts. We're fighting
the Iranian regime directly. We're fighting to his bull. In the north,
we're fighting the Hamas. In the south, we're fighting the Huthis, which
is a Schiite terror group that is now attacking American shipping and Israeli shipping and
Western shipping. In the Red Sea, we're fighting We're fighting the Iraqi by
the way, we're fighting the Iraqi special the Schiite forces that are under the
control of the Iranian regime. And then we're fighting an international war for legitimacy.
Of those people who are ignorantly and in the most misguided ways supporting the
terrorists, they're not supporting the victims of terror, and they're actually supporting the
Iranian regime. If you support Thamas, you're supporting Iran. So this is
a This is you know, a seriously existential moment for the Jewish people and
I think for the Western Alliance as well, because whatever happens to us is
going to is happening to the free world. So how do you fight it?
I think the first thing you do is expose. Expose, exposed.
You go on offense, one hundred percent on offense. And you know,
this is what the Iranian people say to us. We've worked with the Iranian
people. The vast majority of the Iranian people, like ninety percent are pro
democracy. These are people that are pro America, pro West, pro freedom,
and they keep saying, why is the why are American governments, not
just the current government, but many American governments in is nineteen seventy nine have
actually legitimized the regime that represses its own people, that murders its own women,
you know, for for not wearing the hijob the way they want them
to wear the hijob, and for what they call averting what they call subversion
of the regime in the worst possible torture, the worst possible brutality against its
own people. So the first thing we need to do, as as Americans,
as Israelis, as people in the free world, is expose the Iranian
regime and completely boycott and shut down international trade. We've got to completely isolate
the Iranian regime and then let the and let the people of Iran do their
own bidding and create a better future for their own, for their own you
know, ninety million people or eighty eight million people in Iran. The second
thing we need to do is completely expose the terrorists all the time for what
they are, because there's a lot of moral confusion in the United States as
to what you know as to what a terrorist really is. But if we
basically remind people what Isis did to throughout the Middle East, as well as
what ices did to American boys and girls who ended up in their hands and
being decapitated, as well as what al Qaeda did on nine to eleven,
that's what's happening today. And unfortunately there are those who are who have succeeded
to misguide the American people to believe that this is actually a political problem.
It's not a political problem. It's an ISIS problem, it's an al Qaeda
problem. It's a religious ideological rejection of the Judeo Christian West, and we've
got to understand that. You know that while we do have allies in the
hour Muslim world, and I think that Saudi Arabia is a very brave Muhammad
b and Salomon Crown Prince, very forward looking, brave, and I think
an individual leader that can really take the Middle East to very important places.
But we've got to expose the extremists, and we've got to expose the radical
Islamists. Well, I think, whether we like it or not, that
problem is America's problem too. I think there are a number of people who
want to put their heads in the sand, particularly political leaders. But as
we learned recently, and I think we're going to learn unfortunately over and over
again, Homeland Security ICE agents arresting eight ISIS suspected ice ISIS members, with
what our border policy is and the invasion of this country by the millions of
people that we can't full We certainly have not vetted, some of those coming
from very dangerous parts of the world, and some of those engaged in very
dangerous activities. And I think Unfortunately, America could very well learn what Israel
is learning now what America learned in on September eleventh, two thousand and one.
I wish you nothing but the best of luck, in God's speed in
your efforts. Sir, I very much appreciate your time, the generosity of
your time, and your perspective today with great pleasure, and thank you to
our listeners. Thank you to you, Matt, and that the American people
should keep America strong and Israel. Israel loves the American people, and we
ask for your embrace as well, so that we can emerge victorious in these
forces of evil, and they are no less than forces of evil. That
we have to emerge victorious and we will. Thanks to my guest today,
Dan Deiker, president of the Jerusalem Center for Foreign Affairs, a leading independent
research institute serving as Israel's global embassy for national security and applied diplomacy. You've
been listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle,
senior correspondent the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then,
stay, lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame po