1 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,920 People listening online who are not in the Manchester area are probably confused. It's 2 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,280 Taco Tour, everybody, welcome, Here we go. It's that time again, 3 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:55,159 Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m N 4 00:00:55,439 --> 00:01:00,799 HIM and Glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also on Comcast ninety seven. 5 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:04,719 If you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the 6 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:07,640 nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot 7 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,280 com for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, 8 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:18,400 show archives, etc. Etc. Today is Thursday May fourth, two thousand 9 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,840 twenty three, and I know this, uh you know, there's a Star 10 00:01:21,879 --> 00:01:23,439 Wars related thing. May the fourth be with you and whatnot. But more 11 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:27,200 importantly, we have more important matters at hand, my friends, because it 12 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,640 is Taco Tour here in the downtown Manchester, New Hampshire area. So very 13 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,239 exciting. It's a big deal. Hopefully it uh it's a little cloudy out 14 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:42,079 there. Hopefully it doesn't rain, but uh, you know, it's it's 15 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,959 cloudy, but it hasn't rained yet that I know of, at least, 16 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:48,079 you know. I mean, I've been inside here, but so hopefully that 17 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:53,640 holds and everyone has a wonderful Taco Tour. I did hear the band Donnerher 18 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,280 earlier. I could hear them out there. I'm not sure where they're playing 19 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,599 exactly, but but I heard I heard one of their songs, call Me 20 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,879 Soon. Great band from the area. But yeah, So it's a busy 21 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:08,080 day here in downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. DJ Reckless I thought was going 22 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:14,520 to be joining us. I don't know where he went, but he is 23 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:17,280 going to be DJ tonight at the six o three Bar and Grill right up 24 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,159 the street here in downtown Manchester for the after party, the Taco Tour after 25 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:28,120 party, So make sure if you're around you stop it and see DJ Reckless. 26 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,360 Also we should mention one of the participants in the Taco Tour. Of 27 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,919 course, I think probably most, if not all, of the restaurants downtown 28 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,319 here are participating in this event. But the Hopknot of course, our wonderful 29 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:45,280 sponsor, right across the street in the Brady Sullivan at one thousand Elm Street, 30 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:50,000 they are participating. And I did see Kenny. We chatted for a 31 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,919 couple of minutes before the show today, but he said here's what you've got 32 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,719 to know if you're planning on stopping by. We're serving walking tacos for three 33 00:02:59,759 --> 00:03:06,159 dollars cash your choice black bean or chicken. We also have three dollars doskis? 34 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,560 Is that how you say? At Doski? Doseki? Right? Doseki? 35 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Abber loggers inside you can pay cash or a card for your beer. 36 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:16,199 It's going to be a huge turnout, so make sure you get here early 37 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,000 so you don't miss out. And I can actually I can actually see the 38 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:27,520 hop Knot from here right across the street, so I do see see people 39 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:30,240 around and about. I think that what time does it get over at eight 40 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,080 o'clock? I think I think it's four to eight Taco Tour. So yeah, 41 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,520 come on down to come on down to downtown Manchester, stopping too the 42 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,639 hop Knot. Of course, there's so many restaurants participating in the Taco Tour. 43 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,960 It's a great event. And uh, if you're a regular listener here 44 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,919 of WMH ninety five point three, you've you've heard a lot about it, 45 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,159 no doubt on the Morning Show with Peter White. And I think that Peter 46 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:55,919 White and the Morning Show crew they're probably out and about getting some tacos as 47 00:03:55,919 --> 00:04:01,479 well, So there you go, Taco tour right here in Manchester, New 48 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:04,159 Hampshire. And of course for the Star Wars fans made the fourth bee with 49 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:08,680 you. I'm more of a track ee myself, always much more into Star 50 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,199 Trek than Star Wars, but we do have an exciting show. Like I 51 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,520 said, I thought DJ Reckless was here, but he must have. He 52 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:17,160 must have gotten stuck over at the six zero three. He was headed there. 53 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:21,439 We rode together and he was heading over there to make sure everything was 54 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:26,199 ready for later. So maybe he got caught up in something there. Duty 55 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,040 calls, So there you go, Oh Texas. Mike is in the chat 56 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,560 room. He says, I'm on my third taco already. Yes. Also 57 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,399 coming up in the second hour today, we're going to have Kevin Hammer. 58 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,800 He's going to be skyping in from I believe he's in Schenectady in New York, 59 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:46,480 the state of New York. Kevin interesting guy. He is a he's 60 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:53,079 a walk away from the Democratic Party who became a Republican. But our friend 61 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:57,920 Billy Painter from Outlaw Radio suggested that we talked to him, and we've talked 62 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,839 to him a little bit on his book Messenger and he you know, he 63 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:04,240 was talking about and also not only in Messenger, but he talked about this 64 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:09,639 too in his interview. He was on a couple of months ago on Billy 65 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,560 Painter's show out Law Radio, and they were talking in Kevin seems to be 66 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,519 a guy who's really interested in having discussions outside of the the echo chamber, 67 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:27,000 you know that that is our ideologically divided and polarized politics in the United States. 68 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:29,600 So I'm looking forward to talking with him. I think it's going to 69 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,800 be really interesting. So Kevin Hammer will be joining us in the second hour 70 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,560 of the program today for a bit vs Skype. Six three two five six 71 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,040 seven is a number if you'd like to join us. Six three two five 72 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,959 O six O seven. Although we should be getting a call. Uh oh, 73 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:49,639 actually we're getting the call right now. Our friend EASYG is calling to 74 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:56,920 do his vaunted entertainment report. And everyone does so love Easyg's entertainment report, 75 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,959 don't they, EASYG? I hope. So I'm going there a couple of 76 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,319 years ago, and the weather wasn't as bright and sunny as it was, 77 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:08,720 and the lines weren't as long, so yeah, it was all a drizzly 78 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:12,639 and so you know, if people come down tonight, they probably won't be 79 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,800 as long lines as they were last year. I don't think it was a 80 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,759 little sunny last year, and like a million people came downtown and yeah, 81 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,279 blah blah. So far. I mean a lot of people are still at 82 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:24,439 work, obviously, but so far, just from where I sit, because 83 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,920 I can see, I can see downtown, it doesn't look terribly busy yet, 84 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:33,759 so I suggest whether it turns people. I think it's only fifth pitting 85 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:36,199 rest or something. Yeah, it's not bad. I mean it's not like 86 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,279 it's it's not like it's called out. But it's not terribly warm either, 87 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:44,279 so I could probably ask for better weather. But like you pointed out, 88 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:47,399 oh actually I do see a long line at uh oh, somebody's got a 89 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:53,160 long line for me. Yeah, I can't tell. I can't tell who 90 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:55,800 that is because there's a tree in the way where the sign is. But 91 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,519 somebody out there's got a big line for me. And so yeah, if 92 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,600 you're thinking about getting some talk, get on down to downtown Manchester, do 93 00:07:01,639 --> 00:07:05,040 it right now before the lines get long, and enjoy some delicious tacos. 94 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:10,639 Now, do you easy? G at the assistant Living facility there and Nashua. 95 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Do they ever serve tacos there? Once in a while they do? 96 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Yeah? Well good? Uh? Now do you when they when they serve 97 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:23,680 them, do you get to enjoy them? Or does Bruce steal them from 98 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:29,079 you? Sometimes I get depends, but sometimes Bruce gets to him first. 99 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,879 I'll tell you you gotta do something about that guy. I knew it. 100 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,839 I knew it. Well, easy, gu what have you got for us? 101 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:42,279 Do you have an entertainment report? I got a couple of things cook 102 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:45,279 in the end. Oh well cooking Milly? All right, let me hit 103 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:50,279 your music here? He was once a thought them around the way? Easy? 104 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:57,480 You want to know about stock market crashes? COVID nineteen drive buys, 105 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:09,360 celebrity gossip, easy gez watch entertainment reports, Stowes does zat nutting but a 106 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,680 jeep bank baby back? Are you ready for let's find out? Ready, 107 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 let's go by the way. I always look by the way, z. 108 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:24,079 Isaac Banks in the chat room says, oh geez, Bruce by Bruce. 109 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:28,600 Yeah, well, I always look for somebody knew a decade the show too, 110 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:31,799 And uh, I arnthe I haven't done this one. I don't know 111 00:08:31,799 --> 00:08:35,519 if you knew this. It was a grand Marshall for the Tacole Tour. 112 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,320 Um Ah, they're gonna do that. You know. It's not parade downtown. 113 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:43,440 So I don't know how that happens. But the gate the show to 114 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:48,120 Alisa Wray. She is the Grand Marshall the Taco Tour. Many people didn't 115 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:50,679 know that they have a Grand Marshal the Taco Tour. Now is there any 116 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,399 truth to the rumor that it was supposed to be Peter White and then you 117 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,240 ruined it for him? Yeah? I know many years ago he went out 118 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,960 Lemo. Yeah, and after that he said, so Taco too many of 119 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,000 them. But it was fun though, huh yep. Not only is the 120 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:11,519 Star Wars Day at four three tomorrow is Revenge at the Fifth. Oh yes, 121 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:16,600 Revenge of the Fifth and another movie that they put off. I saw 122 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,919 another the first three of them. I really haven't seen a sentence. So 123 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,559 yeah. I have not kept up on Star Wars. Like I said earlier, 124 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:28,240 I'm much more of a trekkie. I'd much rather enjoy something star trek 125 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,720 watch a lot of those movie theories like I want to Hooks. It went 126 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,120 out of business. A lot of people just watching on the TV on their 127 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,080 phone now and we're making on their TV streaming. Yeah, I got seventy 128 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,080 of the television. They will really going to movie theaters anymore. Well, 129 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,320 you know, over the course of the pandemic, a lot of things that 130 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,320 we're supposed to come out in theaters ended up coming out on streaming services instead, 131 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:50,679 like Bill and Ted Saved the World for example, that was supposed to 132 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,360 have a theatrical release, but it ended up coming out and streaming. Yeah, 133 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:58,600 so if you headed on to the the world out of the Taco tour 134 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,759 is over. I think it's over hundred restaurants, and I believe they're probably 135 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,279 still having some sales on a hand in the street called the Breeze Teas Attack 136 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,519 on burthendnights. I don't know how that's long they can having for a T 137 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:11,000 shirts hats. I think definite shot glasses too, believe it or not, 138 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,360 And I believe in every I mean all the entertainment tonight is over at nine 139 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,679 two point, probably sponsoring all the events in the free visinately a Veteran's part, 140 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,919 and they mentioned Donna, her Super Nothing band stand, Jeffrey Kin's Faint 141 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,320 Violey That's not broken and call Colleen Green So and I only need Donna is 142 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:33,919 gonna be their whole ton of music from forty eight pm. And we checked 143 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,279 out of course twice. Amla McCarthey as saying at the Tyco tour not a 144 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,799 bunch of spark, but right across the street from where you are, Donna 145 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,720 her must have been soundtracking earlier. That must be what I heard, because 146 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,519 I could actually hear them all the way down here. Well to meet there. 147 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,519 If there was a lead act, I think they would be the lead 148 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:58,759 act. Yes, yes, I agree, great band, great great people, 149 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:01,919 new stuff come up here. I know you'll be excited about this event. 150 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:07,679 I just confirmed this with the folks in the Economic department me twenty nine 151 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:09,320 on a Monday. It's a free event right down I'm Street. Bring your 152 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:15,120 friends, a family event. Two o'clock parade, a Memorial Day parade that's 153 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,279 about thirty minutes, and then you have a thirty minutes ceremony as Peterman's Parker. 154 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,240 You know the Mayor will be there in a couple of dignitaries. You'll 155 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,360 say some say some stuff. And I only had one of the bands from 156 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,519 local bands here. You know he is um Memorial West or Central will place 157 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,840 and taps and all that, all the interesting stuff I'm just excited for. 158 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,279 As you put it, a couple of dignitaries. We'll say some stuff, 159 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,360 right, I don't know. I know once a mayor and maybe sometimes it's 160 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:45,480 the other local I don't know who, but he might have a grand marshal. 161 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:48,120 So I'll to h investigate that. Well, almost every paride as a 162 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:52,399 grand marshal. It's getting busy out there. And then another event coming out 163 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,399 right all that corner now me twenty first on a Sunday, also another family 164 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,679 events rain or shine. The same with the paride. The only reason they 165 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,480 would cancel it if there was a uh, you know, monsoon rain. 166 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:05,879 They can't play. They can't people can't play that the instruments, you know, 167 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,759 but nobody wants to go out is really pouring. So they do say 168 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:13,559 rain or signed. But to the degree it was this event is rain to 169 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,159 sign as Venom's Park as noontime walking against hungress. So I met a lot 170 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:20,240 of people up from the station. That's where I rising for the shelter and 171 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,759 other places to get a free T shirt. That's where only for the walkers, 172 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,200 by the way. Yeah, but dogs, soda, pop, watermelon, 173 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:31,879 chips, the cookies. So they do feed you after the events they 174 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,519 do. I don't know, I don't know if this is true. Can 175 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,000 you confirm this? If you did not walk in the event, but you 176 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,559 try to grab some of this, uh, some of that food that they 177 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,799 put out there, that you are immediately tas, is that true? Uh? 178 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:48,759 Yeah, yeah, it's not a good idea like I did. Yeah, 179 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:50,799 I don't do what I did a couple of years ago. Right, 180 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,399 probably told the lave you and and and you were tays correct. Now, 181 00:12:56,519 --> 00:13:00,879 if you if you could have avoided that, would would would you have her? 182 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,080 Or if you had it all to do again, would you? Was 183 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:07,279 it worth getting tased to enjoy a dog? Don't be dumb like me? 184 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:11,159 Don't right, don't taste me, bro, I'm just enjoying a dog. 185 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,639 That's what you said. I remember those were your exact words. Yeah. 186 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:18,200 Well, anyways, getting getting onto another topic now, I don't know quite 187 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,480 all the details, but if Christman has been um in a commercial on ninety 188 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,639 seven point five station, believe it or not, I heard it was pretty 189 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,840 good. She's up, she's up for an awards, He's a top ten 190 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:35,600 I'm gonna awards she could get and then um same with the details of further 191 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,480 announcement. And then if mccaze's up for six awards, is she I don't 192 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,480 know she made the second round because I haven't heard earning news on her page. 193 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,879 If I do well, I'll let everybody know. But hey, they're 194 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:52,120 superstars thinking without these awards in my book, and I get new music from 195 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:54,840 her. We've heard it last week. It was smoke is available on all 196 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,960 all platforms. And as he's gonna be playing twentieth again this month. Now 197 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:05,279 Landstone Boston as a country crawled country fast. He starts at ten o'clock and 198 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,960 obviously it's a paid event. You get thirty five tickets or you get the 199 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:13,039 VIP tickets. Well, go through the last one. I'm sorry, we 200 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:16,039 have a question for you. In the chat room, Scott Scott Robinson says, 201 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:22,759 is Amanda McCarthy still around? We don't hear about her anymore. Well, 202 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:26,000 she's living down in Pennsylvania now, like everybody knows that. I thought 203 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,279 she lived in Nashville. Does He does come up here for a couple of 204 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,279 times a year, But she's lives she's living. I'll try Pennsylvania. She's 205 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:37,240 down in um Nashville, Tennessee. Yeah, that's what Tennessee. Yes, 206 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,080 okay, if she lives down there now with her husband down Tom. Also, 207 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,320 now Scott hasn't asked this question yet, but he's probably wondering any news 208 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:52,240 on the Hulkster. Uh no, no, nos as good news, I 209 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:56,399 guess okay. And also now Isaac Banks has posted something in the chat room. 210 00:14:56,559 --> 00:15:00,759 Now easyg this might be something that Isaac would want to admit to The 211 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:03,840 Morning Show for love advice, as they do on Fridays. Although this isn't 212 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,399 love, this is more of a family thing. So I'm going to run 213 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,759 this by you because this might be something that you've run into with Bruce there 214 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:16,720 in Nashua. So let's see if you have any advice. Isaac Banks says, 215 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:20,480 last night, my oldest brother want me to sleep in the couch? 216 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,000 Is my bro Mike Banks. And I said to him no, because my 217 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,840 oldest brother want to sleep on my bed and I told him no. Any 218 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,720 advice for Isaac in this situation, no, kind of lost by that question. 219 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:43,639 Isaac also said, my brother played me and joke me last night. 220 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Mike Banks. My brother makes music of beats and there is you can go 221 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,320 to at Dark Park Productions. Oh, very good. So it sounds like 222 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,600 easyg It was just a roller coaster of things with Isaac Banks and his brother. 223 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,519 They had a agreement over the couch and the bed and uh but everything 224 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,679 worked out okay in the end, and they were just joking around and making 225 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:12,840 some beats. Yeah, well, I'm confused if anyways, this event is 226 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:18,120 April Coorsman doing in Massachuos, says tickets available at April Coorsman dot com. 227 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360 You know, we'll go through the list again. Who's gonna be there, 228 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:26,440 Ay Bruss, Amantha Ray, Morgan Johnson, Kevin Horson, Mattie Ryan and 229 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:36,600 Captis Rob Packman, Matson now Nick Cassie ADDIE's Thrower at Lisa Smith Back Roads 230 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:40,679 and Southern City Band. And that's gonna, i mean probably a long day 231 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,639 event. And course every Wednesday she can playing Vermont Chillington River Shop at six 232 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,720 o'clock and ticketed the event. Tills He's not you've been doing that for a 233 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:51,080 while now, um, and that she's got a couple of events, but 234 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:55,159 they're down the roads. We have another question from Scott Robinson. Now this 235 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:59,879 is regarding Amanda McCarthy, she doesn't have any shows anymore. Will U see 236 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,960 all her dates? No matter where they were? Yeah? I know, 237 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:11,039 uh the what's his face there? Went to went to Tennessee to see her. 238 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:18,640 What's this right now? Yeah? Stephen if you remember that his name 239 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Stephen was Stephen? Yeah, stefinite Philburg went down there. Ye. Yeah, 240 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:26,759 you refer to him as what's his name or what's his face? Definitely 241 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:30,240 Philburg. I'm sorry if you listening. Yeah, that was unusual, but 242 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,799 most people don't want to hear about those dates all over the place. I 243 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:38,039 don't only announce it when she plays here in local in New Hampshire. Yes, 244 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,720 from right, but if you want to go see for County will be 245 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:45,720 all over the place. He's going to be back at the Goat in the 246 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:49,920 Manchester at four o'clock the Goat on May twenty nine, and then Dune twenty 247 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,359 six is other days. Oh yeah, a lot of ways to free event? 248 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,440 Is it donating job? We don't forget to tape your way staff? 249 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,759 Yes, giving you great help and then um oh yeah here we go. 250 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:04,519 You see more events here and flip the pain, flip the page, turn 251 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,680 the page. Be more events. He's really busy. May twenty as is 252 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,359 coming around the corners. He's gonna be the backyard brewer right here in Manchester. 253 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:15,519 Who are we talking about? Against free event of courseman, oh yeah, 254 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:19,680 sorry, I lose track. April Cushman once again we donation job and 255 00:18:19,759 --> 00:18:23,519 make sure your tippy waitress please and wait staff. And then May six he's 256 00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:27,880 going to be the monster trucks right around the corner here Foxborough Masters doing a 257 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,559 national anthem and tickets our about fifteen dollars. Very good to me, you 258 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,519 get done online. And then Made twenty as he's gonna also the two events. 259 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,799 I guess this doesn't make any sense here. No, this doesn't make 260 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:42,640 any sense. I'm confused. I'll go back to that because I have listed 261 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,240 two events on the same day. So tat May twenty six of the foundery 262 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,039 and mantras at six o'clock once against the free event, but do any some 263 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,240 job will be there and don't forget to wait, don't forget the tippy waitresses. 264 00:18:56,279 --> 00:19:02,240 And Made twenty seven is to start our company up four thirty and uh 265 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:07,079 yeah, May twentieth at noontime, and this is where m Robert Dion plays 266 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:17,359 main crew um on on are the words that's okay O g U n q 267 00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:21,160 U, I T a garten quit. Yes, it's gonna be there at 268 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,599 at twelve o'clock. Say it with me except for one our free I think 269 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,279 you can say a gun quit. I drew fourteen a flog day, five 270 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,920 o'clock at the courtyard at the Marriot. Right here, just once and local 271 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:37,799 to say a gun quit. I want to hear you say it. Yes, 272 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,039 I know you can do it. I gotten quite quick. You were 273 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:42,880 so close. All getting back to Amanda, he's work on the new songs 274 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,640 for a new album. Not a gun quit. The song on Spotify, 275 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:52,880 but it's a song by Christian Needs. It's called always Smoking Mirrors on the 276 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,519 on the show, Spotify, an Apple on all the platforms, and then 277 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:00,480 said, oh yeah, Katie Dombas is really bi. You know she's got 278 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,799 some uh oh yeah, we're gonna get to this part here. Yeah during 279 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,759 the page. Oh yeah, new music coming out. It's not on Spotify 280 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:11,920 for some reason, but all the other platforms. It's called when Seasons Change 281 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:17,519 and Please. She's working on four more songs down the road, is looking 282 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:19,920 to put them out together. I guess for an album, so that they're 283 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,359 always really busy. You've got a whole message show it's coming up. We 284 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,559 only got a few because they're down the road. Down the road is gonna 285 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:30,200 be a May thirty first at six thirty doors seven o'clock to a thirty shows 286 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:36,519 songwriter around up and the tickets are fifteen to ten to fifteen dollars is a 287 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:41,480 reasonable and Justin Cole in the Holly Furlough will be there and it's not a 288 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:45,119 good definition right May tend to six thirty and the law Leaving Room session hosted 289 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,960 by Lanching Lee and that's another ticket event and married as fifteen dollars and then 290 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,720 she's playing in May eighteenth as a cure goulers have forgotten weeks ago. The 291 00:20:53,759 --> 00:21:00,759 Block Manchester is also a free event. But don't forget to the donas and 292 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:08,039 jar and your waitress and ways staff. You're very impro vision and jazz trios 293 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:15,079 more than the other one twenty five dollars. Pianist Michael are are with what 294 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,160 is it will be playing and yep, and there's a lot of shows coming 295 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,799 up, but they're uh, they're down the road, as it was down 296 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,519 the road at six o'clock songwriters round up. Jackie Turan and Allie Brodrey will 297 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:32,599 be there. I'll be right out lady before Yes, Allie Boudre's I believe 298 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,000 ten to fifteen dollars. I was going through the the new shows. Oh, 299 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,799 Alie Brodrey, of course, what you have not seen her alive? 300 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:45,000 Alie Brodrey both. I believe it's Brown's Bodie, isn't it. Yeah, 301 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:51,640 I've not seen her live now yeah, Stephen Philbrook has entered the chat room? 302 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:53,519 Easy, would you like to uh? Would you like to take this 303 00:21:53,680 --> 00:22:00,319 opportunity to apologize to him for for referring to him him as what's his face? 304 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,640 Stefan? So sorry about that. Very nice. So you've learned his 305 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:07,480 name. They give me trouble where I live here too, They say, 306 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:14,400 uh, Eric, you're you're missing up the guys. You're missing up the 307 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,880 guy's name. It's good to say the name instead of watch his face? 308 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,079 Right, Yes, what's his face is not typically a term of endearment. 309 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,440 Actually saying his name is much nicer. Yes, I agree, right, 310 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:32,400 yes, I remember, I know, I know. Stephen is such a 311 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,960 common name. It's hard to keep track of all the Stephens, you know. 312 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:41,559 I understand. Yeah, m hm, alrighty, So I guess that's 313 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:47,160 gonna wrap up. I'll find out information where where Christman is gonna be playing 314 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,279 instead of two places at the same time once, thank you don't make any 315 00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:52,519 sense? Well, they could both be on the same day, just at 316 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:59,440 different times. You have, but five or six doesn't don't know? Now 317 00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:03,920 you did request you had requested me? Easyg that I end your report with 318 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:08,319 an April Cushman song in a small town? Why this song? Why? 319 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,599 Why? What? What does this song mean to you? In a small 320 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,559 town by Swans either Hampshire. So that's what she wrote about a small town. 321 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,400 It's a small time. A lot of people lived there, not exactly 322 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,000 a booming metropolis. That's true, right, she has a big farm down 323 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:29,279 there, animals and horses, and so you told us what the song might 324 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:36,079 mean to her. But what does this song mean to you? Well? 325 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,680 I really thought about it, Okay, it's a good song. You just 326 00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:44,279 like it. Nothing wrong with that. You just like the song, Like 327 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,480 they say on prior to interruption, I'll try to do better the next time, 328 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000 all right, that's all I canna do, right, try to do 329 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:56,680 better? Well, that's uh, that's all we can ask, all right, 330 00:23:56,759 --> 00:24:00,839 easy know you did, you did wonderfully, You did wonderfully. All 331 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,720 right, bye bye, all right, EASYG leaves us, and I will 332 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,799 go ahead and play him out us once that thought from around the way, 333 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:15,319 Easy You want to know about stock market crashes, COVID nineteen, drive buys, 334 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:26,960 celebrity gossip, easy Gee's gotcha, entertainment reports stats, Wow, thank 335 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:30,359 nutting, but a jeep, thank baby back? Are you ready for let's 336 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,079 find out? Betty? Let go all right, very good, and we 337 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,519 will because we are so appreciative. We will. We will honor Easyg's request, 338 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000 and we will play this April Cushman song is called in a Small Town. 339 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,000 She is very talented. I'm sure we'll get around the show at some 340 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,720 point. We'd love to talk with her. She's um. There's a song 341 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,000 speaking of Amna McCarthy. There's a song that Amana McCarthy wrote called the Long 342 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:03,680 Haul that April awarded, but Amanda wrote it and played a live version for 343 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,799 us in studio. But so they've they've worked together on some things. I 344 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:14,640 think April Kushman also, I think she had written something that Amanda has recorded, 345 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,599 but I'm not sure about that. But let's we'll give this a listen, 346 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,000 We'll show some love to our sponsors, and then we'll be right back. 347 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:23,880 There's plenty more Matt Connerton unleashed to come. It is the Taco Tour. 348 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,559 Oh those, oh, those lines are getting long. Those lines are 349 00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,079 getting long out there. This is going to be a very successful event. 350 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,240 All right. Here's April Cushman. This is called in a Small Town Tacos 351 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:37,559 on My Mind by John Leva. That is the remix. Actually, I 352 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,000 played the original version at the top of the show today. That's the remix 353 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,559 of that. If you're looking for him online, he's got a YouTube channel. 354 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:45,920 He's got a lot of good stuff on there. His name is John 355 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,680 Leva and Leva is l. E. Y Va if you want to look 356 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:52,319 him up. But I don't know him. I just I was looking for 357 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:59,000 for some taco related music for the show today because it is Taco Tour here 358 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,160 in down town Manchester and looking across the street, the line at the hop 359 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,960 Knot they're doing what they call walking tacos. It's getting long. Definitely looks 360 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,720 like a successful event. And I don't see any sign of rain yet. 361 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:15,640 It's cloudy, but actually the sun looks like it's poking through there. I 362 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,599 think EASYG is back on the line. Hello, Yeah, it just isn't 363 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:22,720 investigating way your Taco tour was a song was playing the h is he also 364 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,880 playing? Because we're playing a mass? Twus? Isn't he May twenty and 365 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,680 he's gonna play at the Backyard Brewery so at sixty cook Manchester though apparently should 366 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,799 be one of the know a couple of acts that going first and then will 367 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,240 travel all the way to Manchester. So and then I found out the right 368 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:38,920 day now Thursday May, like I do three events on the same day. 369 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Obviously, Thursday May twenty fifth should be a Stratford mass at five o'clock Independence 370 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,920 in because I mean, I think never on your show saying that Peter White 371 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:56,279 Show was on Peter White the event over the the thing downtown for the charity 372 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,000 there is this cafe. Yes, it gives the wrong date. So that's 373 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,559 good. Yeah, you do idea have the right dates because people want to 374 00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,160 show these events. It's a really good idea the right date. Yes, 375 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,480 So that's my correction, and uh, have a great day, all right, 376 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:17,000 bye bye, Wow? What are you should have known by now? 377 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,319 Easy doesn't that was easy. Gee, who is he talking about? Was 378 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,119 it April Coachman or a mana McCarthy? I don't even know U six Z 379 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,559 three two five h six O seven. If you'd like to join us today 380 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,480 on the program six zo three two five o six zero seven, you'd also 381 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,079 text us at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm 382 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,279 on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton 383 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,480 dot com, and of course you can interact and opine in the Facebook live 384 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,119 chat. But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy 385 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,640 your dulcet tones is to give us a call at six zoo three two five 386 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,200 O six Z seven six zo three two five six o seven. It is 387 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:57,519 Taco Tour in downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, and it looks like it's getting 388 00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:00,319 busy out there, and it looks like the weather is holding up, So 389 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,079 come on down, get some tacos, big line at the Hopknot. I'll 390 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:11,480 just remind you quickly what's going on there today. Kenny posted this on social 391 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,680 media. Here's what you've got to know. If you're planning on stopping by, 392 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:21,480 we're serving walking tacos for three dollars cash your choice black bean or chicken. 393 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:26,799 We also have three dollar Doseki's Amber loggers. Inside you can pay cash 394 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,799 or card for your beer. It's gonna be a huge turnout, so make 395 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,240 sure you get here early so you don't miss out. Hashtag Taco Tour. 396 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,359 So that is going on right now for those of you listening live, So 397 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:42,279 come on down to downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. I do want to say 398 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:45,400 hello to everybody in the Facebook live chat. And then, by the way, 399 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,559 at the top of the hour, we're gonna be joined via Skype by 400 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Kevin Hammer from the Great State of New York, looking forward to speaking with 401 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:55,799 him. EASYG is in the chat room and says happy Stars Day. I 402 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,759 think he meant happy Star Wars. You know, it's a May the Fourth 403 00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:00,680 be with you. That's the other thing that goes on today. Oh and 404 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,640 then he clarified it. Charles Richardson from the Great State of Florida joins us 405 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,480 in the chat and says, hey, everyone, Happy Thursday. Be positive 406 00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,960 and enjoy the day. Thank you, Charles, and thank you for the 407 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,319 positive message. Jay Fed also joins us in the chat and says good afternoon, 408 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:18,559 everyone as well as Jenny is in the chat room and says shalom, 409 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:25,400 peeps. Charles said something in the chat room that I do not dare read 410 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,559 on the air, but that is funny. Regarding one of the taco related 411 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:33,240 songs that I played, Jay Fed says, I'd rather have chicken tenders over 412 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:40,680 tacos. Really, chicken tenders have been a big subject here on WMAH recently 413 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,839 on the morning show. I know that, and I know that Nick Lavalley, 414 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,599 who happens to be in the band Donna Her who I heard sound checking 415 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:56,000 earlier up a Veterans park. I believe I know that he wants to He's 416 00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,119 trying to get Manchester sort of rebranded from manch Vegas, which I never liked 417 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:06,880 calling it that, calling it Tendertown. So there you go. Charles Richardson 418 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,720 says, pineapple on pizza over tacos any day. That's disgusting, sir, 419 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,680 That is I don't know if we can be friends anymore. I'm horrified by 420 00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,640 that. How dare you? Jay Fed says, I would like to try 421 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,359 the Big Mac taco? Is there such a thing? Never quite sure, 422 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:27,720 never quite sure how to say this name when I see it in the chatroom. 423 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:34,079 But Dary Nordeen, I hope I'm saying that somewhat correctly says the most 424 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:41,559 beautiful channel in the world, your brother and friend. I follow you from 425 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,640 North Africa, Morocco. I do not follow you from Spain. Greetings to 426 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,799 you, all right, well, greetings to you. Welcome. We are 427 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,640 truly international, my friend, my friends, a global phenomenon, I dare 428 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,440 say. Jay fed says there is no need to be confused over taco songs. 429 00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:04,480 Isaac Banks. Again, we tried to get some advice from easyg for 430 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,359 our friend Isaac Banks from I believe, by the way, if I'm not 431 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,480 mistaken, from Greensboro, North Carolina. Isaac said, good afternoon hashtag Matt 432 00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:18,279 and I love tacos from Taco Bell. Good afternoon hashtag cat Lee. Well. 433 00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:23,359 The good news about the taco tour here, which is ongoing in downtown 434 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,279 Manchester, New Hampshire, is uh, you don't have to go to Taco 435 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:33,039 Bell. You can get some nothing against Taco Bell, but you can, 436 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,759 you know, in case they're a future responsor. I don't want to say 437 00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:41,160 anything bad, but but you can get the good stuff right here and downtown 438 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:48,519 Manchester really again, I'm not saying anything about Taco Bell. But Texas Mike 439 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,720 is in the chat says, I'm on my third taco already, and that 440 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:52,160 was at the top of the show, so he's probably on his eighth taco 441 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,720 by now. Isaac Banks says, hashtag my brother Mike Banks, he is 442 00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:01,319 okay, he will apologize to my mom and forgive him to my mom. 443 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,039 Well, that's nice, that's very nice. Scott Robinson says, have you 444 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,319 seen the Picard series? Excellent for Trackees. I have not. I know 445 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,559 that Jenny was watching that at one point. I think that's on paramount plus. 446 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,920 Everything I've heard about it is that it's absolutely phenomenal. People rave about 447 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:28,279 Piccard, but I have not seen it. Texas Mike says, in my 448 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:34,720 first oh, in my first line at Blue Aqua Retro Retro, is that 449 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,319 what it is? Restaurant bar? Blue Aqua, the bar up the street. 450 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,920 Here, I'm pointing as though I'm not on a radio show. If 451 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,279 you can see me pointing, you see me pointing up the street. I 452 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:46,599 mean, if you're watching online you can see. But they have an alligator 453 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:54,400 tacom My goodness, my goodness, Isaac Bank says, last night, I 454 00:32:54,440 --> 00:33:00,359 couldn't sleep at all because my brother chat messages me. Is my brother? 455 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,480 I told him I am straight? Oh, so you you came out to 456 00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,720 your brother, but in reverse or something. I'm not sure exactly how that 457 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:14,640 works, but I'm glad that your brother knows that you're straight. That's good. 458 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:20,799 I guess. I'm not sure why your brother would care. But while 459 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:25,359 you are in the never mind, I'm not gonna I'm gonna pull back on 460 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:30,440 that. Let's see. Scott Robinson says, easy. Did you ever have 461 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:35,160 a taco a forbidden fruit? Oh? I didn't know they participate? All 462 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:43,559 right, let's see, and we already went over the trauma, the drama 463 00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:47,400 rather that Isaac Banks is going through with his brother that he posted in the 464 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:51,480 chat room. Uh, let's see. I just want to make sure we 465 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,480 don't miss anybody here. Miriam Bannish shows us in the Facebook live chat. 466 00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:58,480 Hello, Miriam, nice to see you. Isaac Banks says, good afternoon. 467 00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:04,160 Fran Man Sandridge, how are you doing? And how is Ethan Ross 468 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:09,920 getting better? To return next Thursday to rehearsal of Inner Rhythm Choir. Oh, 469 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,519 and Isaac says, hashtag Matt fran man is Sandbridge from Greensboro, North 470 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:21,679 Carolina. I wouldn't have guessed. Isaac also says taco to her hashtag Matt, 471 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:28,440 that is extraordinary, extraordinary. Oh boy, Isaac is very verbose today. 472 00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:32,840 Taco Tour is the best. Isaac says, yes, yes. Melanie 473 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,159 Liberty is in the chat room, says my mom and my mom and I 474 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:45,840 are leaving Taco Tour now. So yummy. Oh wow, very good, 475 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,199 very good. Well, if you'd like to get in with a quick call, 476 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,480 we are rapidly approaching the top of the hour, and we do have 477 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,519 a guest who's gonna be skyping in. I'm gonna play actually something non taco 478 00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:05,599 related when it's time for the break. My dad has been recommending a band 479 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,239 to me called the Rock Dwellers. They are on the Sea coast, and 480 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,000 apparently he saw them, I think at the Stone Church saw them live. 481 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,440 I always say my dad's hipper than me when it comes to new music. 482 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,360 You know, he's in his seventies, but he's always loved hearing new stuff. 483 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,840 You know, so many people, I think most people, they get 484 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,400 to a certain age and they say, okay, that's it. I've heard 485 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,679 all the music. I ever want to hear and I'm only going to like 486 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,960 music up to this point in my life. But my dad's never been like 487 00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:36,360 that. He loves hearing new stuff. He listens to college radio WUNH on 488 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,679 the Sea Coast. But he recommended this band to me, the Rock Dwellers, 489 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,880 and I looked them up online and I really like them. So we're 490 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,159 actually gonna we're gonna play something from them at the top of the hour. 491 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,400 I might sneak in one more taco related song as well. Today we'll see, 492 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,599 and then after that we'll speak with our guests. Who's gonna be skyping 493 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:57,599 in Kevin Hammer from the Great State of New York. But some quick news, 494 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,280 Oh, Stephen Philberk had mentioned in the face Spook live chat. Ed 495 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:07,000 Shearon found not guilty or actually, more accurately, not liable. Jenny and 496 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:10,159 I talked about this quite a bit on Monday. Ed Shearon was being sued 497 00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,239 by the one of the writers of Let's Get It On, by Marvin Gay. 498 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,239 Ed Sharon was being sued for his song. Actually, I have the 499 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,480 article here, we can look at this quickly, and apparently he was found 500 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,639 not liable as he did not steal the song. Ed Sharon's song It's a 501 00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,679 twenty four hit, Thinking out Loud. I'm really glad about this. I'm 502 00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:37,159 glad that he was found not liable. I think that well, obviously I 503 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:44,360 don't approve of musicians stealing music from other musicians. I think that we get 504 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,920 into a very dangerous zone. And you know, the lawsuit against Robin Thick 505 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,639 over the song Blurred Lines is a great example where that was actually the estate 506 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:59,840 of Marvin Gay suing over that, if I remember correctly, over up because 507 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,880 they claimed that Blurred Lines kind of stole the vibe, for lack of a 508 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,880 better way of putting it, from I forget what the Marvin Gay song was. 509 00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:14,920 And it's it's just we're in a very dangerous place artistically where you can 510 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,639 actually write something and have a hit song and then get sued not because you 511 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,280 stole someone's lyrics or even stole someone's melody, but just because you stole kind 512 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,679 of the the vibe of what they did on a previous song, or a 513 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,840 very common chord progression that is used in many many songs. You happen to 514 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,199 use it and somebody says, uh, I think we have a I think 515 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,559 we have a cash grab here potentially. I think that gets us into a 516 00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:46,880 very dangerous place. I was disappointed that Robin Thick was successfully sued over the 517 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,199 song Blurred Lines, even though I hate the song, but I didn't like 518 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,880 to see that. But I'm glad that Ed Shearon was not sued successfully. 519 00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,800 But this is from media. I Ed Shearon blast dangerous copyright k after jury 520 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,679 victory. I won't be a piggy bank for anyone to shake, says you're 521 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:08,079 a musician. Ed Sharon expressed a mixture of relief and frustration after a jury 522 00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:14,079 verdict in his favor in a copyright infringement case, telling reporters that if he 523 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,079 had lost, it would have been dangerous for music creators everywhere. I agree. 524 00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:22,440 The lawsuit accused Sharon's twenty fourteen hit song Thinking Out Loud of having similarities 525 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:28,280 with some of the chord progressions, melodies, and rhythms in Marvin Gay's nineteen 526 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,320 seventy three classic tune Let's Get It On. The complaint was filed by the 527 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,320 family of Ed Townsend, who co wrote the song with Gay, so ed 528 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,960 Townsend's estate effectively. Sharon attended the trial in New York City and testified in 529 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:45,440 defense of his song, which he wrote with his frequent collaborator, singer songwriter 530 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:51,480 Amy Wadge, pointing out that both songs were based on chord progressions that were 531 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,480 very common in pop music. And that's an important point because again, if 532 00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:01,679 you can successfully sue ed Sharon over this song and it is ultimately about a 533 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,599 common chord progression, then that opens the floodgates to all kinds of lawsuits and 534 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,960 there are in pop music. And again, Jenny and I got into this 535 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,920 in some depth on Monday, I think it was Monday. In pop music, 536 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:21,559 there are there are only so many different chord progressions that are commonly used, 537 00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,159 you know. There's only so many progressions, there's only so many chords, 538 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,960 there's only so many notes, you know. And everyone is inspired by 539 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,639 something that they heard before them. So again, I would never justify or 540 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:38,360 rationalize just blatant thievery if somebody else's music or any other form of creative output. 541 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,159 But everyone was inspired by something. And I think I do think it 542 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,199 is clear that Ed Shearon, with that song and the way it's constructed and 543 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,960 the way the song is produced, probably very much inspired by the Marvin Gay 544 00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,440 classic, but not not a copy not a rip off, and so I'm 545 00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:01,079 really happy that that he won this loss suit. It says you're Today A 546 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:06,119 jury returned to verdict in their favor and d Sharon's favor and Amy Wadd's favor, 547 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,719 finding that Thinking Out Loud did not infringe on Gay and Townsend's copyright in 548 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,199 their song. Speaking of the press shortly after the verdict, Sharon said he 549 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,400 was quote obviously very happy with the outcome of the case. It looks like 550 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,599 I'm not having to retire from my day job after all. At the same 551 00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,960 time, I'm unbelievably frustrated that baseless claims like this are allowed to go to 552 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:30,840 court at all, unquote, describing how this case had taken eight years of 553 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,679 quote talking about two songs with dramatically different lyrics, melodies, and four chords, 554 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,679 which are also different and used by songwriters every day all over the world. 555 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,719 Unquote. He continued, pointing out the impact on songwriters. Quote. 556 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:51,039 These chords are common building blocks which are used to create music long before Let's 557 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,079 Get It On was written, and we'll be used to make music long after 558 00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:57,920 we are all gone. They are in a songwriter's alphabet, our toolkit, 559 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,480 and should be there for all of us to use. No one owns them 560 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,719 or the way they are played, in the same way nobody owns the color 561 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:13,119 blue. Unquote. Sorry if I had suddenly distracted, I I hear it 562 00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,880 sounds like a mariachi band down on Elm Street. It is Taco Tuesday, 563 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,280 my friends. No, I'm sorry, it's not Taco Tuesday. It's Thursday. 564 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,840 It's a taco tour. I meant to say, Ah, tripped up 565 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,920 on the illiteration of it all. Sharon blasted the opposing and the idea of 566 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,239 tacos. Sharon blasted the opposing counsel for making unfounded claims with their experts who 567 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,559 had left out words and notes to create quote, misleading comparisons and disinformation and 568 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:42,440 try to manipulate my song to try to convince the jury that they had a 569 00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:46,079 genuine claim unquote. He expressed how he was grateful the jury quote saw through 570 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:52,920 the attempted manipulation and called such cases so dangerous for both songwriters facing this kind 571 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,719 of litigation threat and potential claimants who may be convinced to bring a bogus claim 572 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,239 unquote. There you go, who's getting loud out there? All right? 573 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,159 Here's what we're gonna do. We're going to take a quick break and I'm 574 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:10,840 gonna play as a promise, I'm gonna play a track from the Rock Dwellers. 575 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,440 This is a really good band that my dad is a fan of. 576 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:20,079 So I'm gonna play this song called There and Back Again. No, actually, 577 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,199 I'm not gonna play that one. I'm gonna play Obsession. I might 578 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,039 save the other one for later. Obsession is the one that I liked the 579 00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:28,079 most. Yeah. Yeah, we'll go with this one. Obsession. We'll 580 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,960 play this, We'll show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we'll 581 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,639 be back. We'll have our guest, Kevin Hammer, joining an USBA skype 582 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,400 from the state of New York. There is plenty more to come, my 583 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:45,400 friends on this Matt Connerton Unleashed, don't go away. Who Welcome back, 584 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:51,519 everybody, It is Matt Connerton Unleashed as we enter the second hour. Numero 585 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,039 Dose here from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM and 586 00:42:55,159 --> 00:43:00,639 Glorious Downtown, Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast seven. If you're 587 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,719 in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and 588 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,760 around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for 589 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,519 all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, 590 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:14,719 etc. Et cetera. Today is Thursday May fourth, a, two 591 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,119 thousand twenty three, and it is the Taco Tour day right here in downtown 592 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,239 Manchester. And I'm looking out this window and the lines are getting long. 593 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,559 Uh the hop not, of course, our amazing sponsor and the Brady Sullivan 594 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:30,360 at one thousand Elm Street, they're doing They're doing tacos, they are participating. 595 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,679 There's a lot going on downtown, so it's it's definitely worth checking it 596 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,159 out. And it looks like the weather is holding up, so I hope 597 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:42,679 to hope to look out the window and see you down there. But we 598 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,719 are live. We're gonna bring in a we have a great guest on via 599 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,840 Skype. We're gonna bring in in just a moment. But if you'd like 600 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,760 to enter the discussion that we are about to have, six zo three two 601 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,039 five six Z seven is a studio line six zo three two five six Z 602 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,320 seven. You know also text me at six one seven nine one seven four 603 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,719 four seven X. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email 604 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,360 me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com. You can interact endo Pine in the 605 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,199 Facebook live chat. But the best thing to do so that we can hear 606 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,599 and enjoy your Dulca tones is to give us a call at six zero three 607 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,519 two five zero six zero seven. And we have Kevin Hammer via Skype. 608 00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:24,199 Kevin are you there? Yes, I am hello, welcome to the show. 609 00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:29,880 Glad glad to be here. I just want to check and you hear 610 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,199 me clearly? Yeah, yeah, absolutely can hear me. Okay, a 611 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,679 bit choppy, a bit staticky, but I can make I can make everything 612 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,639 out everywhere just saying okay, good good. Yeah. Technology will will not 613 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,000 always be exactly what we wanted to be, that's for sure, absolutely. 614 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:50,800 But uh yeah, yesterday we had a band on all the way from Germany 615 00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,159 called Factory of Art, and uh, you know, when when you're getting 616 00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:59,280 transcontinental, it can be especially a challenging and they were skyping in but they 617 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,960 had a little bit of a problem connecting. You know. Eventually it worked, 618 00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:05,519 but I had to had to give it a few shots. But where 619 00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:08,920 where are you Are you in Schenectady in New York? Yes, yep, 620 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,880 I do reside in Schenectady, New York. Okay, it's not that far 621 00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:16,559 from the capitol Albany, New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 622 00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:20,559 have some I have some family in New York State. Spend some time there 623 00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,719 as a kid, because I haven't been there in a while, well at 624 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,840 least not not in terms of spending any real time there. But um my, 625 00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,920 uh, my dad's second wife, her family is in I don't know 626 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,599 if you know Frankfort. It's uh kind of near uh, I guess it's 627 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,440 kind of near Utica. Um, yeah, I'm aware of the Frankfort area 628 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,960 absolutely. Okay, Yeah, it's kind of funny in that area. You've 629 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,440 got all those you know, they don't even really call them towns. They 630 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,880 call them villages like Frankfurt and Ilion and and it's hard to tell where one 631 00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,400 ends and and and another one begins. It's they're kind of like a like 632 00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:58,880 one city sort of match together, but it's really like a series of neighborhoods. 633 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,519 It's interesting, but it's funny. Yeah, it's it is funny up 634 00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:05,920 here. I actually grew up in a community where the Amish had posts to 635 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,480 tie up their horses. So really, no kidding in New York or were 636 00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:15,360 you. Yes, Oh wow. I was born and raised in Scaria, 637 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,559 Montgomery Counties in New York State. Uh. And it's funny because most people 638 00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,480 when you say you're from New York, they go to the city. But 639 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,679 I grew up in small town, rural New York. Like I said that, 640 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,320 we had an Amish community. Uh, you know, Mennonites. You 641 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,119 know, we we had all that out there. And like I said, 642 00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:37,159 our bank, our post you know, the post office, our grocery store, 643 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,679 they all had post to um tie up their horses. In fact, 644 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,599 they put in a brand new a few years ago. They put in a 645 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:49,920 brand new sign in the center of town. Uh buggy parking, No kidding, 646 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,760 Oh yep. Oh that's cool. That's interesting. Interesting. Um you 647 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,960 ever see that that that show Amish Mafia. I think it was actually set 648 00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:00,480 in Pennsylvania. Did you see that? I think it was on the Learning 649 00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:06,079 Channel. No, I'm aware that it exists, but no I have I 650 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,159 have actually never seen a full episode. I saw a trailer for it once 651 00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:10,719 and I found it very amusing. It's a it's a trip. I just 652 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,119 I know someone actually, someone who claims to be a real New Yorker from 653 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:21,320 from the city who uh will often brag about the time that he interviewed Lebanon 654 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,440 Levi from Amish Mafia, and it's kind of like, wow, that's uh 655 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,360 quite the brag there, but uh yeah, that that that ship. I 656 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,719 have seen the show. It's it's kind of a trip. But now, 657 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,679 what is your current statis in terms of are you a candidate or do you 658 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,719 currently hold office? Well, I I am currently a candidate. Um I 659 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,960 will. I not going to speak so much to the uh you know, 660 00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:52,360 the race right now my campaign. Yeah, right now, we're the Democrats. 661 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,199 I am a Republican. The Democrats have their primaries, uh, their 662 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,679 primary coming up. Uh you know, so we're just switching out to the 663 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,119 community eight now, still knocking on doors, getting getting our names out there. 664 00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:08,039 I ran in twenty twenty one for city council and I'm running again, 665 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,480 Okay in Sconnectady. Yep, in Sconnectedy. Gotcha. Now, have you 666 00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,679 held office before or if you run, did you run for office prior to 667 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:22,480 twenty twenty one. No, twenty twenty one was my first time entering politics 668 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,519 in that in that fashion. Okay. Prior to that, I had been 669 00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:34,760 involved more on the activist side since probably around College. Okay, and now 670 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,079 you came to us by way of our friend Billy Painter, or Bad Billy 671 00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:44,719 as he is as his online persona. Although I personally I don't know what 672 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,679 you think, Kevin, I think he should just use his real name. 673 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,280 I think Billy Painter is a cool name. I don't know why. I 674 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,159 just like the way it sounds. But uh, but yeah, he had 675 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,280 he had recommended, and I'm glad he connected us, and I did. 676 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,320 I didn't get a chance to see quite the whole thing, but I did 677 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,800 watch most of um, your interview, Billy's interview with you, I should 678 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,079 say, on Outlaw Radio and very interesting and U and you know we had 679 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,199 talked via messenger and you had mentioned, you know, you're a Republican, 680 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,239 but you you know, you like to be able to discuss things with people 681 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,760 outside of the echo chamber, and um, you know, one of the 682 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,679 things that I try to do with this show, and this is part of 683 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,800 what it's part of what made you interesting as a guest, and why I 684 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:30,239 think Billy suggested you come on is you know I m and I'm an independent, 685 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,800 but I would probably best describe my politics and when I go with this 686 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,360 particular description people seem to agree with me. I'm center left, but with 687 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,320 a heavy dose of libertarian in some ways too. But I really like talking 688 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,000 to um. You know, I I don't personally enjoy having discussions that are 689 00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:52,920 strictly you know, ideological, the sort of cable news to people yelling at 690 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,320 each other, you know. I like to dig deeper, and I like 691 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,800 talking to people whom uh you know. I mean, of course, it's 692 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,119 nice to talk to people with whom I agree. It's also nice to talk 693 00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:05,159 to people with whom I disagree and have a real discussion and an exchange of 694 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,440 ideas. And uh, my impression both from Billy and what you had said 695 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,880 on Messenger is that you're very open to that as well, and that you 696 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,480 like to address things outside the echo chamber. So um, so, I 697 00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:21,079 think that's very cool, and I'm very interested in so a couple of things 698 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:24,440 about you that are that are interesting also in addition to that that I wanted 699 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,519 to ask you about. UM. One is I would like to hear your 700 00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:32,599 story about how Billy described you as a walk away from the Democratic Party, 701 00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:37,280 and you you alluded to it a moment ago as well, um, that 702 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,280 you used to be a Democrat, And it's interesting you. You said something 703 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,760 interesting in your conversation with Billy on his show. You were talking about how 704 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:49,480 you really kind of feel more like an independent. But you know the way 705 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,400 the system works in New York. You know, if you want to vote, 706 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,920 or I suppose if you want to be a candidate in your case, 707 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,320 because you're an active candidates. You know, you're an active candidate. Independence 708 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,159 generally don't win, so you know, you almost you almost have to pick 709 00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:05,800 a side, um in that sense. But I do want to ask you 710 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,639 more about all of that, your your journey and and and how you've changed 711 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,960 politically or if you have changed. You know, sometimes people will say regardless 712 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,760 of which party they left, you know, I hear people say, well 713 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,480 the party didn't you know, I didn't leave the party, the party left 714 00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,320 me. But I'm curious to hear more about that. The other thing that's 715 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:28,320 that's interesting about you is um, so you are and and it's right on 716 00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:31,320 on the website there that I was looking at. You know, you're you're 717 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:37,480 openly gay and in a party that I think I think there's a perception and 718 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,400 and you might refute this today, I don't know, or it might be 719 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,960 a concern. I'm curious to hear you address this. Um, but there 720 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:51,280 is a perception that the Republican Party today has kind of taken an anti LGBTQ 721 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:57,039 bent or. But then again, I also realize you're in New York and 722 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,519 the Republican Party of New York State is not the same as, say, 723 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:06,280 no disrespect to the South, but the Republican Party of Alabama, you know. 724 00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:10,360 So so maybe maybe maybe where you are, and I suspect this is 725 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,679 the case, but I'll be interested to hear you address this. Maybe where 726 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,880 you are it just doesn't matter. I mean, I know George Santos is 727 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,679 an openly gay Republican allegedly. Of course, you don't know whether you can 728 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,519 believe anything anything he says, but he is an openly gay Republican from New 729 00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:31,639 York, and nobody seems to care that he's gay. So everyone's very interested 730 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,960 in whether he's actually telling the truth about anything, but nobody seems to care 731 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000 that he's gay. So, um, so, you know, in the 732 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:42,800 Northeast, maybe it's just not an issue. I don't know, but i'd 733 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,760 be curious to get your perspective on that. But um, but yeah, 734 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,159 any any of that that you want to address. I know I threw a 735 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,840 lot at you at once, but you're I'm very curious to learn more about 736 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,880 you. And um, your conversation with Billy left me with a lot of 737 00:52:57,199 --> 00:53:00,559 questions. So as you can tell sore where Oh no, absolutely, yeah, 738 00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:05,559 a lot of a lot of ground at me. Um, you know 739 00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:09,119 where to start on the map. Um, no, Well, it is 740 00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:16,360 true. I was once I was registered Democrat identified actually self identified as a 741 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,880 leftist at one point. You know, I was involved as an activist more 742 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:29,480 during the time when s JW was more commonly used social justice warrior back back 743 00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:34,440 in those you don't you don't really hear that anymore. Um. I had 744 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,800 a journey, which um, I mean there was a lot involved in it, 745 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:43,239 and I came to embrace more my conservative values. Now. Part of 746 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,280 that journey, um was indeed the fact, as you said, many people 747 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,679 say I didn't leave the party, the party left me. The Democratic Party 748 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,679 went further to the left. That's true. However, at around the same 749 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:02,199 time, I was also connecting to some more of my conservative root values that 750 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,960 had that had always been there. So it really it really was a mixture. 751 00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:12,119 Um, I can't I can't say that, you know, now, 752 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,719 I you know, identifying as a conservative and speaking to conservative values, I 753 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,760 can't say that they weren't there at all. Right, they were there even 754 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,119 when I was more on the left. It's just how my interactions went on 755 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,719 the left ultimately led to me embracing more of those conservative values, um, 756 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:37,440 and ultimately rejecting a lot of the ideology that I saw on the rise on 757 00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:42,360 the left. Now, you it is, it is true that um. 758 00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:46,480 In regards I like to say today, UM, that I prefer to discuss 759 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:52,639 values, not party. Yes, and that that really has become more and 760 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,239 more of my focus. Uh. Not too long ago, I was having 761 00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:02,239 a discussion with two gentlemen about issues locally and as. When we got done 762 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,880 with our conversation, you know, I was expressing my opinion. I was 763 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,320 talking about specific issues. And when we got done with the conversation and the 764 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,519 one guy left, the other guy, who happens to be a Republican, 765 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:16,039 a conservative like myself, he goes, Wow, he goes, that was 766 00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:21,000 impressive. He goes. Usually when me and the other guy try to you 767 00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:22,400 know, me and my other friend try to talk to him. You know, 768 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:29,199 he's hard Democrat and he will yell at us, get frustrated with us 769 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,800 and all that, and I go, I understand that, and I've had 770 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,599 that experience as well. But did you notice something in our conversation. Not 771 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:42,760 once did I mention party affiliation during this entire conversation. I just spoke about 772 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,159 the issues and my personal values, which well, leaving party out of it 773 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,880 allowed us to have a better connection. Yeah, that makes sense because you 774 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:58,519 when you had that conversation with Billy on his show, you were talking about 775 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,920 that there's a moment, uh that I and I wanted to kind of mention 776 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,000 this to you, and and I liked what you had to say. There's 777 00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:09,360 a moment where you gave him, you offered him some advice on you know, 778 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:15,519 he's he's Uh. He was talking about his daughter and a political sort 779 00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:19,400 of a political conversation interaction that he had had with his daughter. And you 780 00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:22,519 said to Billy, can I give you some advice and the advice that you 781 00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:25,280 gave him? And I I won't, uh, I'm sure I won't get 782 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,000 it out as eloquently as you put it, because I really liked what you 783 00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,639 had to say. But your suggestion was, you know, start with you 784 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:37,239 know, don't don't talk about political party with your daughter, talk about specific 785 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,920 issues and uh and and and just stick to that. And I really again, 786 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,679 the way you said it was very very good. Um. I can't 787 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,119 remember exactly how you put it, but it really resonated with me because, 788 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,079 you know, I feel like we live in a world where people are so 789 00:56:54,280 --> 00:57:04,239 hyper focused on party identification and ideology that there's no room to even um express 790 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,559 anything outside of what's expected to you, for example, on social media. 791 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:15,119 Um, if you are on either left or right, you know, if 792 00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:19,119 you're if you're a Republican and uh and and you say, well, you 793 00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:22,039 know, I'm a Republican, but here's something that I do give President Biden 794 00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:24,880 credit for. I think he's right on. You know, maybe you know 795 00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:30,000 the way he's supplied weapons in Ukraine or whatever, if that's something you happen 796 00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:31,719 to agree with him on. If you if you give Biden credit for anything 797 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,440 as a Republican, you'll get dog piled. You'll get called a rhino, 798 00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:39,239 you know, you'll get called a I don't know, a socialist, whatever 799 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,679 it is, right, uh And and in the inverse, if you're a 800 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,400 Democrat and you say, well, you know, I don't. I don't 801 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,639 like Trump, but I did agree with him on the debt ceiling. That 802 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,440 was something that he got right. Uh, you'll get dog piled by your 803 00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:58,199 your fellow Democrats and it's like, how can you dare say anything good about 804 00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:04,239 Trump? And so uh it's and and that just perpetuates you know, we 805 00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:07,320 we we live in a world where it's like you've really you're expected to be 806 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,360 locked in on one side or the other. And so I think your approach 807 00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:15,760 is smart. Uh, you know, talk about the you know, forget 808 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:22,599 about the political identification. Uh, start with the issues and and and go 809 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,440 from there. Because at the end of the day, especially when you're talking 810 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,719 about local things, UM, I think there's a lot of room for agreement. 811 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,360 You know, if you're talking about if you're running for city council or 812 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,760 something like that, I think there's probably a lot more room for agreement and 813 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:43,480 less room for ideology uh than there isn't on a broader scale anyway. So 814 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,199 I think what the way you approach it and the way you think about it, 815 00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:51,639 I think makes a lot of sense. We've gotten the we we've gotten 816 00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,840 to a point where if you're talking about a politician, whether they be Democrat, 817 00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:00,440 Republican, whatever they may be, and you are on that opposite end 818 00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:04,239 of the political spectrum, at least that's your party affiliation, and you do 819 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,519 speak kind of to them in any way, you do get that attack. 820 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:13,320 Unfortunately, we are that polarized, although I would say that we're polarized in 821 00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:16,960 regards to what the media highlights, in regards to what the politicians highlight, 822 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:22,800 but not so much when it comes to day today Americans, everyday americans who 823 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,440 I feel actually can have more conversations. And I know in fact we can 824 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,360 because I've taken part in those conversations. It's more on the social media where 825 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,639 I get the conflict, but in person, I've had in depth conversations with 826 00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:39,519 people on the opposite end of the political spectrum. Sure we did not agree, 827 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,559 but we remain civil, absolutely, and I think in part that's because 828 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,719 we and I was I had a friend once kind of put it this way. 829 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,480 He was saying, you know, it's it's kind of like we're at 830 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:54,960 this point, you know, say, there was a historical a dictator and 831 00:59:57,159 --> 01:00:01,400 monstrous dictator, right, and that dictator happened to say, um, puppies 832 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,119 are cute. Well, after that point, no one could ever say puppies 833 01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:09,760 are cute because this dictator said it right, right, so no one, 834 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,800 no one can say puppies are cute now, um you know. So it's 835 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,800 it's very interesting that we have gotten into that, and it's it does exist 836 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,440 on both sides of the aisle, all across the political spectrum. Now, 837 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,199 for me personally, it's interesting because I look back to my roots and where 838 01:00:27,199 --> 01:00:30,920 I came from. One of the things I actually feel very fortunate in regards 839 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:37,679 to is that I did not have very political parents. My parents never discussed 840 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,840 voting with me. To be honest, some people may not look fondly upon 841 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,320 that, um you know, for various reasons, but it's just not who 842 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:51,079 my parents were. Can I remember once asking them about voting, and both 843 01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:54,719 my parents had the same view. Why bother they're all crooked anyways, across 844 01:00:54,840 --> 01:01:00,800 across the board. And that's a common view actually from me. Especially when 845 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,559 I entered UM college and I started looking at the world around me, I 846 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:12,119 realized something that was true. Whether I liked it or not. You know, 847 01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:14,760 there's the saying that you don't have to believe in the devil. All 848 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,599 that matters is the devil believes in you. And that's true when it comes 849 01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:21,880 to politics. You can say you don't care about politics. You can say 850 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,880 that you don't you don't care. You know, it doesn't impact your life. 851 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,599 But that's just not true. I had a conversation with a friend who 852 01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:32,079 lives in a more rural area and he was telling me earlier. He had 853 01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:36,480 been telling me in the week about he was putting in a duck pond and 854 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,119 you know, in a coupe for the ducks and all that stuff. And 855 01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:44,239 then later on he was telling me how politics doesn't impact his life, you 856 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,679 know, so he just doesn't want anything to do with it. And I 857 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,440 remembered back to our earlier conversation and I asked him, owing the answer probably, 858 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,320 I said, I have a question. You think politics doesn't impact your 859 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,280 life? I got a question. Did you check all the zoning laws and 860 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,840 regulations when you put in that pond and you put in that hoop, Because 861 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,320 if you did not follow them to the tea, those were passed, those 862 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,119 rules were passed by government, by local government. So yes, it does. 863 01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:14,360 In politics impacts us from the moment we are born and before we go. 864 01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:16,000 We were born. You know, if you're born in a hospital, 865 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:21,400 there are regulations, policies at the hospital has to follow that have been implemented 866 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:27,400 by government. Government does impact us from womb to tomb, um and even 867 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,920 after the tomb. To be honest, because they can you know semties. 868 01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:35,280 So I mean, politics does impact you, whether you like it or not. 869 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,960 Someone seem to that um that realization. When I entered college, I 870 01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,719 got involved and at the time it was more on the left. I was 871 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,800 actually I was an activist. I was a co founder of the of one 872 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,599 of the GSAs at my college. Um at the first college I went to, 873 01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:53,519 and I really did fall into more with the left, and for me, 874 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:59,440 that did end up eventually taking more of an extreme turn at one point 875 01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:04,079 to where I did cut out family over over politics. The one thing I 876 01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:07,039 never did I never told anyone they didn't have a right to speak. Um. 877 01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:14,400 This is where it honestly started to change for me is when I actually 878 01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:16,559 got that treatment in return, and I'm actually thankful that I did. To 879 01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:22,559 be honest, I started to question things on the left at the time. 880 01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:27,360 And like I said, I don't say this to say that everyone who has 881 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:32,480 left or leaning has these personality traits or takes part in this behavior. Of 882 01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:37,000 course, I'm speaking to the experience I had during my journey from the left 883 01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:43,000 to the right. And you know, and I've met I've met people on 884 01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:46,599 the right who are very big on if you don't have this specific view, 885 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:51,360 then you're cut off right, nothing nothing to do with you. But for 886 01:03:51,519 --> 01:03:55,360 me, I experienced it largely on the left and still do to this day. 887 01:03:57,079 --> 01:04:00,199 Um, what it happened was, I think, as I always I 888 01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:06,239 always kind of say, I think what really ultimately was going to result in 889 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:13,639 my conflict with the left was that I'm very stubborn and I don't respond well 890 01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,800 to people trying to put me in my place. I'm someone who always asked 891 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:23,239 questions. Yeah. I wasn't the child who easily accepted when my parents told 892 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:28,840 me something. I wasn't the child to really accept because I said so. 893 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,039 I was the child who would ask why, yeah, And I view that 894 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:35,599 as important. You tell a child not to touch a burning stove, why 895 01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:40,760 not explain to them why they shouldn't touch the hot stove because they could get 896 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,800 hurt instead of just saying because I said so, right, They're more likely 897 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,039 to rebel against that and actually touch the stove and get and get burnt. 898 01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:54,039 But if you explain to them why, you're gonna probably have a different result. 899 01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:57,079 I mean, they could still do it, you know, but but 900 01:04:57,199 --> 01:05:00,039 you're probably gonna at least they're gonna have a better understanding. And I I 901 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,000 really had that personality from the time I was very young. Trust me, 902 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:08,679 it frustrated my mother at times, but my mother let me. Let my 903 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:14,079 mother understood where my logic was was going. And ultimately, I think this 904 01:05:14,239 --> 01:05:19,960 personality trait is what eventually caused me to conflict with the left as it moved 905 01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:25,559 further and further to the left. Because when I entered the left, there 906 01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:29,760 was a lot of things that were preached that I absolutely believed in and still 907 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,400 do actually believe into this day. It's just when I noticed a lot of 908 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:39,360 double standards and hypocrisy on the rise, that was when I started to conflict 909 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,079 because I started to ask more questions. Yeah, and I do have a 910 01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:47,480 few examples of those that I found where I was starting to like, For 911 01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:53,559 example, you know, there was this we would say, all right, 912 01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:58,159 you shouldn't judge someone by the color of their skin. Absolutely absolutely, you 913 01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:01,599 shouldn't. That's wrong, that's racist. To have a prejudice against someone based 914 01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:04,599 on the color of their skin. That is racism. That is the definition 915 01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:10,320 of racism. Right, It's wrong to judge someone's entire character based on their 916 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:15,400 sex. Absolutely absolutely agreed with that, and I still agree with that deeply. 917 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,760 It's wrong to judge someone hate someone based on their sexual orientation, and 918 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,480 you know, in regards homosexuality, heterosecution. Still I still believe that. 919 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,880 However, I noticed that there became more and more among my friends as double 920 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,800 standard, meaning they believed that racism only went one way, sexism only one 921 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:40,119 way, Hating someone based on sexual orientation only went went only went one way, 922 01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:45,719 and that if you were the oppressed quote unquote demographic, you had every 923 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:54,639 right to treat other people however you wanted based on these characteristics because you were 924 01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:58,840 the oppressed. And that just didn't sit right with me. I think that 925 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:04,159 it's just as wrong for me to attack a heterosexual man for being heterosexual, 926 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,440 to call him some kind of name a slur related to that, as it 927 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:13,599 would be for him to call me a slur in regards to my sexual orientation. 928 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,280 I saw that as just as wrong. But unfortunately, on the progressive 929 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:23,239 left right now, they don't see that as they see one is wrong but 930 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:29,880 not the other. Um, but where were these Were there expert personal experiences 931 01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:31,760 that you had where this came up? Because I don't, I don't. 932 01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:33,920 I mean, well, first of all, I mean to say, so 933 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,559 I fundamentally agree with you. I mean, any anybody, uh, you 934 01:07:38,639 --> 01:07:42,119 know, being prejudiced against anyone is as a form of prejudice. Like I'm 935 01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:45,320 not a big fan of the term, and you might agree, I'm not 936 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:51,320 a big fan of the term reverse racism. I think racism is yeah yeah, 937 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,639 um, but but I am, I am curious. So uh, 938 01:07:56,039 --> 01:07:59,880 I mean, were there personal experiences that you were having or did something happen 939 01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:05,000 you online where where you began to notice because I don't feel like I see 940 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:13,599 while I agree with you, um, in principle, I haven't. Granted, 941 01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:17,000 I don't really engage much online in politics. I kind of save it 942 01:08:17,079 --> 01:08:23,279 all for the show. Um. But I so I agree with you in 943 01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:26,560 principle, but it's not something I've seen, Like I can't, off the 944 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:31,159 top of my head think of a lot of examples of straight people being attacked 945 01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:36,359 for being straight. I'm not sure. So I'm just can you clarify that 946 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,800 a little bit. I'm just curious where where you were running into that, 947 01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:45,640 and and and if you can walk us through how you responded to that when 948 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:53,319 you encountered it, and how that drew you to to see hypocrisy and double 949 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:57,319 standards and so forth. Well, let me, I guess, let me 950 01:08:57,399 --> 01:09:00,279 explain, because I know the perspective you're coming from. In my personal life. 951 01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:02,960 When I say I was an activist, well I may not have, 952 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,239 you know, been high up there and gotten a lot of attention. I 953 01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:12,680 was very much involved in activism, and I did end up with friends who 954 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,600 went further and further to left, like not just people on social media, 955 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:20,079 people in my circle of friends who, for example, over a political disagreement 956 01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:24,039 one friend I had, he did try to get someone fired from their job. 957 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:30,119 He t but he docks them like I knew people who honestly were at 958 01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:35,800 that level of encouraging people to cut off family even divorce their spouses over political 959 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:43,439 disagreements. Like my circle of friends was hard went hard left. So it 960 01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:45,760 wasn't even social media, which, don't get me wrong, I experienced that 961 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,920 on social media of course. Yeah, I was part of a law of 962 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:54,319 left leaning political groups and chats and everything like that. But I had people 963 01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,680 in my life, people I had known for years, who were also of 964 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,479 this mentality in act actually took part in these actions. And like when I 965 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,479 had the falling out with my family member over politics, a lot of my 966 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,640 friends encouraged me to cut her out of my life and never talk to her 967 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,600 again. And this was someone who is my baby cousin. I'm about I'm 968 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,039 all about four years older than her, and I was there when she was 969 01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:26,199 born and we had a falling out over politics. And at the time, 970 01:10:26,399 --> 01:10:31,560 I was much more extreme and much more of you know that you gotta agree 971 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,600 with me on this or else I don't want to talk to you. And 972 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:41,640 I was surrounded by people who had that same mentality and encouraged that mentality in 973 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,319 me. Now, I still made the decision, right, I'm not. 974 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,399 No one held a gun to my head or anything. Not to say that 975 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,560 someone wanted to do that. These days, it seems like some might, 976 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:54,880 But no, I still made that decision. So I still take responsibility for 977 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,600 my actions there. I'm not going to sit here and claim that I was 978 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,479 completely helpless they I was. I was forced to, you know, by 979 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,119 threat of my life or anything. I ultimately was the one that made those 980 01:11:06,199 --> 01:11:11,760 decisions. But all so that was my circle of friends or just to clarify, 981 01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:15,920 because I actually marched on Washington, DC, I protested outside my capital. 982 01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:21,960 I went to organizational meetings. UM, I helped organize protests, I 983 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:30,279 spoke at protests. I was deeply involved on in regards to the activity locally 984 01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:34,199 when it came to the left. Yeah, yeah, um, I will. 985 01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:39,319 Actually, uh, I want to kind of retract and rephrase something I 986 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:44,520 said when you mentioned when you mentioned specifically people trying to get people fired from 987 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,840 their jobs or because of maybe not you know, whatever it is, their 988 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:55,119 their position or something. I have seen examples of that. Actually, so 989 01:11:55,720 --> 01:12:00,319 I was not. I'm realizing now I'm because as you're talking, I'm thinking 990 01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:03,840 of specific things you know where Um. It kind of reminds me of the 991 01:12:04,279 --> 01:12:11,319 what what Candice Owens talked about. Although in in I don't believe her story, 992 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,720 I do believe your story because I've seen examples of what you're talking about. 993 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,039 I have, and it's starting to come back to me. Candice, 994 01:12:16,079 --> 01:12:17,880 I don't I don't. I don't know how you feel about her. I 995 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:23,000 don't believe her, but that's a separate conversation. But I but I know 996 01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:26,079 what you're saying, and it's it's um, yeah, if if somebody, 997 01:12:27,119 --> 01:12:33,479 um, you know, somebody uh does something that that someone perceives as uh 998 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,920 and and they may be right in their perception that it's prejudiced or something, 999 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,840 and then they go and they try to get that person fired from their job. 1000 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,720 Uh, that type of thing. Uh. Yeah, I don't like 1001 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,319 to see that either. I think I think people do go much too far 1002 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,640 with that or the dock singe that goes on. And so I I understand, 1003 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,960 Uh, you're being repelled by that. Um. I've never I've never 1004 01:12:58,039 --> 01:13:01,880 been an activist in that way, so I've not experienced that. But I've 1005 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,279 never been in that position either. But I have seen that kind of thing 1006 01:13:05,359 --> 01:13:09,479 happen, Kevin. So I do get where you're coming from on that. 1007 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,680 And let me let me just because you asked for a specific examples, so 1008 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:19,439 um, there were specific examples, especially around twenty sixteen going into twenty seventeen, 1009 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:24,640 because obviously that's when things really heated up. Yeah, and that was 1010 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,359 when you know, I cut out a family member. But then I started 1011 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:33,800 to really question myself on that. I over politics was going to cut out 1012 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:39,039 someone that I had known literally since the day she was born. Yeah, 1013 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:45,319 over over politics. I had a falling out with well, my in laws 1014 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,960 event you know, eventually for a little bit. And you know, I 1015 01:13:49,079 --> 01:13:53,840 don't regret. Some people might say they regret these falling out, these falling 1016 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:59,199 outs, I don't because I stepped back and reflected on them and more I 1017 01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:01,279 became critical myself. What could I have done differently? What could I have 1018 01:14:01,399 --> 01:14:06,000 said differently? Yea. And some of the UM, some of the things 1019 01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:12,560 that happened personally where I actually became a target in my circle of friends UM 1020 01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:15,520 started around that time. So I don't know if you recall, UM, 1021 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:23,920 when a group of four UM young individuals who happened to be black kidnapped a 1022 01:14:24,079 --> 01:14:30,439 young UM man with mental health issues and tortured him and recorded it. I, 1023 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,479 you know, and we're in we're calling, and we're using racial slurs 1024 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:39,840 and you know, uh, you know, towards towards white's. During that, 1025 01:14:40,319 --> 01:14:43,359 I remember in my group of friends saying, oh, okay, here's 1026 01:14:43,359 --> 01:14:47,479 an act of racism. Just as we've called out acts of racism against other 1027 01:14:48,119 --> 01:14:53,600 other demographics, other racial demographics, here's an act of racism that we should 1028 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,600 call out as well. Like I said, in my mind, racism is 1029 01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,479 racism and it's wrong and we should call out. But when I to call 1030 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,359 that out, people in my own circle of friends said, no, you 1031 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:08,279 can't do that. That's not racism. Was that a violent act yes? 1032 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,159 Was that prejudice yes? And I'm like prejudices in the definition of racism, 1033 01:15:13,239 --> 01:15:16,319 But you know, I started getting push pushed back with that. UM. 1034 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:21,039 Another thing that that happened to me is I had made a lot of posts 1035 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:28,880 critical of Christianity in regards to while the LGBT community UM, and I had 1036 01:15:29,119 --> 01:15:30,920 you know, I had made a number of posts and friends had my friends 1037 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,600 in my closed circle, they had liked and shared them. Well, I 1038 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,880 made a similar post, except this post. I was being critical of Islam 1039 01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:45,199 in regards to how it has how that how that religion has treated homosexuals, 1040 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,079 UM and other people from the community over over our span of years. And 1041 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:56,439 I was told I couldn't, I should take down that post because my post 1042 01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,520 against Christianity were fine, but my my post being critical of Islam, we're 1043 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,960 wrong because in the context of America, we're talking about minority demographic So I'm 1044 01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:11,800 punching down, and this just didn't make sense to me. I realized what 1045 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,840 came. The biggest issue I had was inconsistency and logic. If you have 1046 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:21,279 a specific set of values and you don't apply them equally across the board, 1047 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:27,520 I have to question you. I have to question if you can and then 1048 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,359 you don't acknowledge the double standards, the hypocrisy at play in your own mind. 1049 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,199 Don't get me wrong, we all have our double standards join right, 1050 01:16:35,279 --> 01:16:40,520 like when it comes to policy, like there are things that yes, children 1051 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:45,159 shouldn't do, but adults can. Right. That's that's one case where absolutely 1052 01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:48,720 into me, that's that's legitimate. I stand by that. But this was 1053 01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:56,680 very different. And more and more I started speaking on issues and getting told 1054 01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,319 to be quiet by those in my circle of friends. To the well, 1055 01:17:00,319 --> 01:17:08,319 I was actually removed from several uh messaging groups that I had been part of 1056 01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:12,319 on social media where I actually knew the people in person. And then one 1057 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,479 individual was amusing the one that tried to get a guy fired from his job. 1058 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:20,920 Yeah, there was a protest locally in front of in front of my 1059 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:26,399 police station. Actually, and this I had already been started being very open 1060 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,880 about my criticisms of the left, and I had starting I had started to 1061 01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:33,800 embrace more of my conservative values in part as a result of that, started 1062 01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:39,600 reflecting more upon who I really am, really soul searching. But during that 1063 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,399 time I hadn't heard from him as much. Yea, I happened to go 1064 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,560 to that protest. I saw him there. He kind of looked at me, 1065 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,439 then looked away, and someone I had been at his house. I 1066 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:53,000 had celebrated with him, celebrated birthdays, like really, we had hung out, 1067 01:17:53,319 --> 01:17:56,079 and sure enough I went to look him up on social media. Not 1068 01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:00,279 only had he unfriended me on social media, he had blocked me as well. 1069 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,439 Yeah, so this is what started to happen. And one I think 1070 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:13,000 one big thing issue for me was my unwavering belief in free speech, no 1071 01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:16,199 matter what even my days when I was the furthest to the left I had 1072 01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:21,239 ever gotten. I still while I might cut people out, I might have 1073 01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:25,720 cut people out, I still didn't believe that they should be silenced right. 1074 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,880 I still believed that they had a right to speak to their values, to 1075 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,760 what they believed, even if their values hurt my feelings, I just want 1076 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,279 to associate with them if it hurt my feelings. I believed that to my 1077 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:43,239 core and I still do so. When a number of my friends started taking 1078 01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:46,039 those actions of well, we're gonna work to get people fired, We're gonna 1079 01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:51,520 even you know docs, people release their information and even sometimes go after family 1080 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:57,159 members, all because people were just speaking their values. That for me was 1081 01:18:57,279 --> 01:19:00,800 like, I'm done. I have to step away from this, and that 1082 01:19:01,039 --> 01:19:06,039 was when my journey really started to where I am today. Yeah yeah, 1083 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,760 um no, I can. I can understand all of that, and now 1084 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,199 I'm curious the other aspect that I'm really interested in it. So, um, 1085 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,960 it is my theory, correct, Kevin, that you as a as 1086 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,399 an openly gay man in the Republican Party in the state of New York probably 1087 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,600 not an issue or have you or have you run in any have you run 1088 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,520 in any problems with that where where maybe some maybe somebody just uh gives you 1089 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:39,279 a hard time. Well, I'm not someone who tries to um blind myself 1090 01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:43,640 to reality or tries to deny truth. Um. Of course, the Republican 1091 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,520 Party has not had a history that has been great with individuals who like myself, 1092 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,520 are gay. Right, Yeah, yeah, that's that's a fact. 1093 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,079 Then again, it wasn't too long ago that you had Biden up there talking 1094 01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:00,279 about marriage being between a man and a woman. So but furthermore, I 1095 01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:03,680 want, I want to um I put it this way now with people, 1096 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,840 because people do say to me, how can you vote this way? How 1097 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:13,239 can you have these values when the party that you're a part of, UM 1098 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,239 you know, have had, has had this history when it comes to the 1099 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,439 LGBT community. Well, I'm like, well, first of all, there's 1100 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:26,079 a great deal in the LGBT community that I stand firmly against what I see, 1101 01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:32,800 especially in the current lgbt Q all the way to Z a community that 1102 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,800 I just I absolutely am adamantly against. So first of all, there's that. 1103 01:20:38,199 --> 01:20:44,039 And second of all, even if let's say the Republican Party today put 1104 01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:48,279 out a platform that all homosexuals should be put to death. Right, even 1105 01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:55,039 if that were to happen today, my values on freedom of speech, the 1106 01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:58,720 first Amendment would be the same, The second Amendment would be the same, 1107 01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:04,479 Abortion would be the same, border issues would be the same. I would 1108 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:11,199 still have these values. So would I vote for a politician that wanted me 1109 01:21:11,399 --> 01:21:15,840 put to death? No? But I would vote for a politician that supported 1110 01:21:15,159 --> 01:21:19,479 that fought for the values that I preach, and yes, they happen to 1111 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:26,359 be conservative and Republican. And that's just the fact. So when people try 1112 01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:30,000 to bring up the history, I'm like, well, that's also the point. 1113 01:21:30,039 --> 01:21:32,880 It's history, right, yeah, because we can spend all day going 1114 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:38,319 down history, going down that road as to who did what and who did 1115 01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:40,359 when? I mean, do you want to go back to segregation? Do 1116 01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:43,720 you want to go back to Democratic Party? I mean, how far do 1117 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,079 you want to take this? Well? Yeah, yeah, no, I 1118 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,239 understand that. But what I'm curious though, Kevin is like, do you 1119 01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:54,399 get any pushback you know, you're a candidate for office as a Republican, 1120 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,720 do you get any pushback in your own party in New York? Because because 1121 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,600 if you look at the Republican Party's history with say, for example, marriage 1122 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:06,560 equality, um uh, you know, obviously there are Republicans. Well I'll 1123 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,840 just give you just a quick example. So here in New Hampshire we were 1124 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,119 actually ahead of the curve on marriage equality because um and uh, Jenny was 1125 01:22:15,159 --> 01:22:19,159 was serving in the in the House, uh, in the legislature here uh 1126 01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:25,000 in New Hampshire at the time. But um so uh, there there were 1127 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,119 a large contingent of Republicans uh in New Hampshire who voted in favor of marriage 1128 01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:34,880 equality and then voted against repealing it when some Republicans tried to repeal it in 1129 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,399 the next term. So so we were ahead of the curve. But part 1130 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,039 of what contributed to that was was, you know, some Republicans who said, 1131 01:22:43,279 --> 01:22:45,479 no, we we we, you know, let's let's go ahead, 1132 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,199 and let's go ahead and do this. Uh. Not not all of them, 1133 01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:50,119 of course, plenty of them opposed it as well, but um and 1134 01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:56,359 there there are certainly Republicans who who bristle at the idea of undoing that for 1135 01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,880 example. Um so, um so, there are a lot of Republicans who 1136 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,920 are pro marriage equality. But I'm just wondering, I mean, do you 1137 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:09,119 do you run into any any fellow Republicans or Republicans you've campaigned with, for 1138 01:23:09,239 --> 01:23:13,880 example, who who have any issue. Again, I wouldn't think that it 1139 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,920 would be a problem in in New York, not to you know, bring 1140 01:23:18,199 --> 01:23:23,479 Northeastern elitism into it. But you know, we can We're both Northeasterners. 1141 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,560 We can do that. Um. Whereas you know, if you were if 1142 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,960 you were running for city council in Alabama or Mississippi or Oklahoma. You know, 1143 01:23:32,319 --> 01:23:39,000 as a Republican, you you might very well, uh, you know, 1144 01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:42,880 you might run into some trouble. But I'm wondering, have you had 1145 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,079 any of that here or or has it? Has that part been pretty smooth 1146 01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:49,920 because to your credit, you don't try to hide it. Um. You 1147 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,960 know, again the website I was looking at, you know, you could 1148 01:23:54,039 --> 01:23:58,039 try to slide one by and refer to your partner on that website, but 1149 01:23:58,159 --> 01:24:00,760 you don't. You refer to him as your husband. If you had said 1150 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,159 partner and captain ambiguous, you might foolsome people, but you're not trying to 1151 01:24:04,199 --> 01:24:09,880 fool anybody, which I really respect you for. Um. Because of the 1152 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,159 position that you're in, no one could blame you if you did try to 1153 01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:17,640 sneak one by, you know what I mean? So and so, so 1154 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,720 it's it's so it's interesting, I guess, first of all, it's a 1155 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:24,039 matter of my approach, right, Yeah, is to me. To me, 1156 01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:28,159 there's nothing special in that that I that I do reference my husband in 1157 01:24:28,279 --> 01:24:32,119 my description. I've seen plenty of profiles where, you know, a male 1158 01:24:32,199 --> 01:24:36,600 candidate will say my wife in regards to explaining why he's running for office, 1159 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:41,960 my wife, my family. I'm running because I want my family to have 1160 01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,039 to live in a safer, safer community. And that's the thing is First 1161 01:24:45,039 --> 01:24:47,920 of all, I want to stress I am not a gay candidate. I 1162 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:54,760 am not a gay Republican. I am a Republican candidate who happens to be 1163 01:24:54,880 --> 01:25:00,880 gay, who happens to be a homosexual. So gay is not the priority 1164 01:25:00,079 --> 01:25:04,760 of my identity. Yeah, it's not something I put any work into. 1165 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,840 It's something I just am. So that's also the idea of taking pride in 1166 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,359 that. To me, one of the things is taking pride in an identity 1167 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,880 that you didn't work for. That's where you get into narcissism and you get 1168 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,680 into more entitlements. So for me, when I when I go to speak 1169 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,319 to a Republican on the street or not, you know, I knock on 1170 01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:30,720 their door, I don't introduce myself as HI, I'm Kevin the homosexual. 1171 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,279 I introduced myself as HI, my name is Kevin Hammer. I'm running for 1172 01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:41,279 city council. Um, these are the issues that I'm focusing on, and 1173 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,880 that's where the conversation is. Yeah, I have I interacted with any pushback, 1174 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,319 Yeah, I've interact but to me, it's no different. So so 1175 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,640 I have out with Republicans, h I had. I do have an example 1176 01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:00,359 of one Republican who couldn't get past the fact that I happen to be a 1177 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:05,800 homosexual man. Um But at the same time, I have people on the 1178 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:10,399 left who can't get past the fact that I'm a homosexual who's a Republican. 1179 01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:15,880 So I witnessed it on both sides. Now, when we go some marriage 1180 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,279 equality specifically, I was involved as an activist during that time. I actually 1181 01:26:20,359 --> 01:26:25,000 marched on Washington, DC for the Equality March in two thousand and nine. 1182 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,000 Um so, yeah, yes, it was two thousand and nine, I 1183 01:26:29,039 --> 01:26:33,520 believe, Um so, I was involved, you know, in that. 1184 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:38,039 But to be honest, my view even on that to a degree has changed 1185 01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:42,079 in regards to what I why I personally was was fighting for was is. 1186 01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:46,880 I wanted legal protections. I wanted to be able to have to live my 1187 01:26:47,039 --> 01:26:51,920 life with and with a man that I fell in love with and not have 1188 01:26:53,039 --> 01:26:57,920 to worry about my family or anyone else coming in during certain times, say 1189 01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,159 I was injured in the hospital, I don't want to worry about my family 1190 01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:03,439 coming in and laying claim to me. I didn't want to worry about if 1191 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:08,720 I were to pass away my spouse, you know, being able to inherit 1192 01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:13,039 what I leave him in my will. I didn't want to worry about that. 1193 01:27:13,239 --> 01:27:15,159 Now a lot of people say, well, you could still follow those 1194 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,479 you know, the legal processes and leave. The problem is is that there 1195 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:24,680 was a history of it when we didn't have those legal protections that even if 1196 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,159 someone said, okay, I'm going to sign off that this person makes all 1197 01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:32,079 medical decisions for me if I'm incapacitated, or that my items go to this 1198 01:27:32,399 --> 01:27:36,159 families would often come in and there was a history of this and challenge it 1199 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:43,680 on the basis of morality and even say well, we feel that our relative 1200 01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:49,079 was brainwashed into this lifestyle, and therefore we want, you know, we 1201 01:27:49,159 --> 01:27:53,439 want custody, we want a right to him to make those decisions about his 1202 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,960 health, or we want to right to his estate. And if a judge, 1203 01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,800 if a judge's morality was in line with that family. Quite often it 1204 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,800 didn't matter if there was a will, it didn't matter, you know, 1205 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,880 if anything was on paper, the judge would go with that. So for 1206 01:28:09,039 --> 01:28:13,680 me, it wasn't about even the word marriage. I just wanted security in 1207 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,439 the fact that there were legal protections for me and the man that I love. 1208 01:28:17,239 --> 01:28:19,680 Yeah, that's a big that's a big part of why, um, 1209 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:25,279 civil unions. In my view, that wasn't enough. You know, that 1210 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,600 was sort of the compromise when when when civil unions came in and it was 1211 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,479 like, well but but as you know, some of the examples that you 1212 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,760 gave are reasons why even civil unions didn't quite hold up. And that's that's 1213 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,800 one of the reasons why it was it was so important in my view. 1214 01:28:39,119 --> 01:28:42,199 You know, like I said, I've always been pro marriage equality. But 1215 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,640 Kevin, we are. You've been very generous with your time. We're already 1216 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,439 it's about ten minutes of five, so we'll we'll let you go. I 1217 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:54,079 know you got to get to get to dinner and so forth. But UM, 1218 01:28:54,319 --> 01:28:56,319 not to put you on the spot, but I would like to do 1219 01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,239 this again soon because I've really enjoyed the conversation. I feel like we barely 1220 01:29:00,319 --> 01:29:03,920 scratched the surface. And uh, you know, you're an interesting guy. 1221 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,119 So I do hope we can do this again soon. But before we let 1222 01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:12,159 you go, please, is there anything that we should know for anyone who 1223 01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:15,920 might be listening online in your area where where they should go to learn more 1224 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,760 about your campaign or social media or anything you want to make sure our listeners 1225 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:26,479 know about, or anything that you're that you might be involved in online politically 1226 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,880 or otherwise that people should know about. Well. I mean, for um, 1227 01:29:31,319 --> 01:29:33,800 in regards to my campaign, where you can learn more about me and 1228 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:40,199 also my other amazing candidates who are running alongside me. I really do have 1229 01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:43,920 some great people surrounding me. You on Facebook, you can go to your 1230 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:49,720 GOP candidates for Schenectady City Council. It is actually the same on Twitter. 1231 01:29:50,319 --> 01:29:55,560 Um. There you can find links to our website and just just learn more 1232 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,760 about us. But ultimately, I guess what I want to leave people with 1233 01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:05,560 is just to really work on avoiding the echo chambers that we have today in 1234 01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:11,560 our society, regardless of whether they are on the right or the left. 1235 01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:16,840 Echo chambers, I truly believe are one of the greatest dangers in our society 1236 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:23,000 today. We Once you get trapped in them, you get this mentality to 1237 01:30:23,159 --> 01:30:28,359 actually hate the other side. Yes, And the scary thing about that is 1238 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,479 once you convince yourself to hate someone, to hate a group of people, 1239 01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:38,880 history shows us that eventually you can justify doing the most horrific things to those 1240 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,720 individuals. So get out of your echo chambers if you're in it, think 1241 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,960 about your think about your life for a moment. Say, do I have 1242 01:30:45,079 --> 01:30:47,479 a friend, not an acquaintance. Do I have a friend or someone that 1243 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:55,000 I can have deeper conversations with who's of a different perspective on this issue or 1244 01:30:55,079 --> 01:30:59,960 that issue, or a different political affiliation. And do we have these conversations. 1245 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,399 If not, work on changing that, work on making connections, because 1246 01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:09,920 like I said, it's the it's the politicians, it's the media, it's 1247 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:15,319 the hardcore activists that are creating this view that we are so divided that we 1248 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:20,159 can't stand each other. But on the streets, I feel that we very 1249 01:31:20,279 --> 01:31:25,560 much still can have conversations. Oh yeah, and people treat each other differently 1250 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:30,439 in person than they do on social media anyway. Absolutely. Yeah, So, 1251 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,119 by the way, I would love to come back on UM, I'm 1252 01:31:33,399 --> 01:31:40,560 very much enjoying this conversation in your right over all the topics in general, 1253 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:45,279 we've just barely scratched the surface. Yeah, because I've definitely had an interesting 1254 01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:50,720 journey, uh, from from left to right and my walk away experience as 1255 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:55,039 well. Yeah, yeah, definitely, Well we will will set something up, 1256 01:31:55,359 --> 01:32:00,319 Jenny, Jenny will connect with you on that and uh and and will 1257 01:32:00,359 --> 01:32:02,399 make it happen because I've enjoyed this very much. All Right, Kevin Hammer, 1258 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,119 thank you again so much for joining us today, and we will talk 1259 01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:11,159 soon. Let's have a good day, all right, YouTube bye bye, 1260 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,920 all right, very good. That was Kevin Hammer, a Republican from Schenectady, 1261 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,359 New York. He is on the ballot for all I don't know if 1262 01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:23,840 there's a ballot yet, but he's running for city council there in Schenectady. 1263 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,800 And uh yeah, and I you know, I really like what he had 1264 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,880 to say about, you know, getting out of the echo chambers, because 1265 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:31,600 that's and that's part of the reason why I wanted to talk with him today 1266 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,880 is because that's something that we talk about a lot on this show, you 1267 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,800 know, and I really believe that, you know. In fact, we 1268 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,920 were talking just the other day about algorithms, you know, and how on 1269 01:32:43,239 --> 01:32:45,800 social media, whether it be YouTube or Facebook or whatever it is, you're 1270 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:51,279 you're actively served up content that matches what you've already looked at, what you've 1271 01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:57,960 already absorbed so you're constantly being fed information that reinforces what you already think. 1272 01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:03,000 And that's good in one sense, right from a customer service standpoint, because 1273 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:15,119 you want to you want to be suggested, so to speak, products or 1274 01:33:15,239 --> 01:33:19,920 services or content that you are going to be interested in. So you know, 1275 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:24,520 it's no different than on social media in terms of content. It's no 1276 01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:29,079 different from when say you're shopping on Amazon. You want to be presented with 1277 01:33:29,239 --> 01:33:34,600 products that somehow align with things that you've previously purchased or things that you've previously 1278 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:41,119 looked at. So that all makes sense. So the algorithms are necessary evil. 1279 01:33:42,319 --> 01:33:46,479 But the evil part in the necessary evil is that, yeah, it 1280 01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:53,319 does reinforce these echo chambers that we all get trapped in and that we're vulnerable 1281 01:33:53,399 --> 01:34:00,600 too. And if you can have constructive intellectual discussions outside of that and outside 1282 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,039 of being you know, trapped in an ideology. And you know, Kevin 1283 01:34:03,119 --> 01:34:06,640 put it very well when he said, what happens is that gets reinforced to 1284 01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,640 the point where people who disagree with each other begin to hate each other. 1285 01:34:11,319 --> 01:34:18,800 And that's the worst part, and a lot of terrible things become justified because 1286 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,399 of that hatred. So yeah, so there you go. But like I 1287 01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,560 said, I feel like we barely scratched the surface with Kevin, so we 1288 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,760 will do that again soon. But we are approaching the top of the hour, 1289 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,319 my friends, I'm going to leave you with another track from the band 1290 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,159 Rock Dwellers in a Moment, this band that my dad suggested, There and 1291 01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:41,760 back again. A great song. But if you're thinking about coming downtown for 1292 01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:45,600 the Taco Tour, please do looks like it's going pretty well out there. 1293 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,960 Of course, the Hopknot's got a lot going on for Taco Tour. You 1294 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:55,199 should check that out. And thank you again Easy G for the entertainment report. 1295 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,680 And we do have a guest tomorrow. Truth is going to be skyping 1296 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,800 or calling in. We've had him many times on the show. But he's 1297 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:06,560 got a new single and I believe tomorrow we will be the world radio premiere 1298 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,920 right here on Matt Connerton unleashed of the new single from Truth, So we 1299 01:35:12,079 --> 01:35:15,800 look forward to that. Isaac Sierra is his name on Facebook, and uh 1300 01:35:15,039 --> 01:35:17,960 he's he's a great guy and he does a lot in terms of activism. 1301 01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:25,199 He does a lot, uh in terms of mental health activism. So here's 1302 01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:27,760 a little bit, you know, what we're gonna play. Uh, we 1303 01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,840 are going to play that rock Dweller song. But before we do that, 1304 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:45,199 because it is Taco Tour, tacos, no need to ask why. All 1305 01:35:45,279 --> 01:35:47,520 right, very good, go enjoy some delicious tacos. And if you miss 1306 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,760 any part of today's show, it'll be up in just a little bit at 1307 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:56,239 WMNH radio dot org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com. Oh, 1308 01:35:56,279 --> 01:35:59,319 by the way, if you're wondering about YouTube, they denied my appeal. 1309 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,479 We'll talk about that tomorrow. All right. Here's this is called There and 1310 01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,600 Back again. This is from the band great band from the seacoast here in 1311 01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:10,880 New Hampshire. This is by the Rock Dwellers. Check this out and now 1312 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,439 I'll talk to y'all a little bit later. By everybody,