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K IF. I am six forty. It is later with Mo Kelly.

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We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And I'm not saying I'm right all

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the time. I'm just saying I'm
right, damn here all the time,

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somewhat close to right all the time. Yesterday I started off the show saying

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specifically that colleges and universities around the
country were going to have to make a

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decision, an active, affirmative decision
about what they were going to do with

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these campus protests prior to graduation,
because clearly graduation was going to be the

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leverage point for all of these protests. That's the last card in the deck

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to play. Honestly, that's the
time in which they would have the most

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attention. That's the time that they
would have the most say and sway in

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what universities would do or not do
in the coming days and weeks. And

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I talked about how certain universities like
the university you see Irvine have multiple graduations

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depending of the school over the next
few weeks, graduations are going to be

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impacted. Schools need to have a
plan in place immediately. And then I

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open up the news today several dozen
pro Palestinian protesters have set up an encampment

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on the Pomona College commencement stage on
the stage, and they're vowing to remain

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in place and blog graduation activities unless
the college commits to divestment from Israeli tied

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companies and weapons manufacturers. They are
literally camping on the stage, making it

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not virtually impossible, but actually impossible
to have graduation with them camping out on

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the stage. I'm not saying I'm
right all the time. Damn it,

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I've got a good percentage going at
these at this rate. So once again,

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colleges are just gonna have to make
a decision in advance. They're going

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to have to plan in advance.
They're running out of time. But they're

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not going to be able to sit
idly by and act as if they don't

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see it. We don't see them, we don't see them. Not pay

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them attention, ignore them, and
the problem will go away on its own.

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I'm not saying the problem is unsolvable. I'm saying you can't ignore it.

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They're camping out on the stage.
They're not leaving you a lot of

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options. And speaking of not being
left with options, there is a degree

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of belligerence that I'm hearing more and
more with these protests, and I go

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back to what I was saying before. You're not leaving universities and law enforcement

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for that matter. You're not leaving
them a lot of options as to how

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to handle it. If you're saying
we're going to stay on this stage until

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our demands are met, well,
what do you want them to do.

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You're not even saying we're going to
stay on the stage until we have open

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lines of communication. No, you're
saying that you're not going to move unless

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the university gives in. I don't
know what type of leverage you have.

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I know how you're trying to leverage
graduation, but I don't know that you

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have actual leverage to make the university
or universities bend to your will. And

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you have no right to camp out
on the stage. So what do you

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think is the likely response from universities? What do you think they're going to

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do? You think they're gonna pull
up a chair and sit down and talk

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with you because you said we're not
moving until our demands are met are met.

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You're not leaving protesters. You're not
leaving UC Irvine or cal Poly Pomona

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or any other university for that matter. You're not leaving them any choice.

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They're going to call on the police, and the police are going to remove

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you. Why remember last week I
was saying UCLA was going to be the

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premer, they were going to use
that as the guide for what other universities

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would do. And since that time, law enforcement has been coming in and

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sweeping out the protesters. Thankfully,
this is me. Thankfully, it has

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been largely without a major incident.
There hasn't been a riot, there hasn't

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been all sorts of uncontrollable violence.
Thankfully, for the most part, it

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has been without incident. But I'm
hearing more of a rhetorical escalation. Quote.

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Listen to this. Students are prepared
to defend the encampment until their demands

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are met and call upon the college
to heed the overwhelming support for divestment in

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their community. Close quote. That's
according to a statement from an organizing group

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known as Pomona Divest from Apartheid.
You are begging for Let me put it

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this way. There's an old saying, and I know it's said mostly in

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black family, So if you've heard
it before, just know it's something that's

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said in families of African Americans.
Don't write checks with your mouth that you

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ask can't cash. Oh you didn't
hear it, let me say it again.

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Don't write checks with your mouth that
you ask can't cash. Because when

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you say, when you write the
check of quote, students are prepared to

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defend the encampment until their demands are
met and call upon the college to heed

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the overwhelming support for divestment in their
community. And I quote, you are

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writing a check. You are making
a demand. You are dropping the proverbial

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gauntlet in the street and daring the
university to not give in to your demands.

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I sure hope you know what you're
doing, but you can't throw the

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karate kid. Don't drop a challenge
in the dojo and expect that you can

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walk out. Don't I know it's
a karate kid thing. Don't think that

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you can dare the university in this
case and subsequently law enforcement that you are

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not going anywhere unless your demands are
met. And also use the word defend

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the encampment. Defend the encampment.
You are asking for, you are inviting,

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you are encouraging a confrontation. And
when that confrontation does happen, because

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you're not gonna be there come graduation. I can bet you you're not gonna

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be there. When that confrontation does
happen. You don't get to then say,

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oh my gosh, I can't believe
that they removed us. I can't

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believe that they use force to dislodge
us from that graduation stage it is coming.

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I just want to know one thing. I'm going to ask one question

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before I go to break. How
much money is in your ass account because

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you just wrote a check. You're
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mo Kelly. Trying to broaden our
social media profile where we can talk about

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these things off the air. These
are very important issues, very important.

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There are times in which I may
talk about it from a somewhat comte standpoint,

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but after a while I just run
out of jokes. I don't have

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any more jokes. You know.
I may play with Mark Roner, good

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evening Mark Ronner, and we may
go back and forth about some of these

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things, and we may make some
comedic anecdotes on the periphery, but after

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a certain point, there's nothing funny
for me to offer, because literally,

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people are dying. People are dying, people are getting stabbed, people are

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getting hurt consistently. A security guard
was stabbed today and an alleged trespasser was

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shot dead at a Metro station in
Hollywood earlier this morning. You might have

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heard about it. If you hadn't, well, you knew I was going

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to talk about it. This is
the latest violent incident in a wave of

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incidents which have been happening more recently
over the past few weeks. It's been

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consistent, but now it's becoming more
frequent in nature. The Metro security guard

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was stabbed at about nine ten am
the platform of the Metro station at fifteen

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hundred North Vermont Avenue. This according
to the LAPD, and the agency said

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the guard found a trespasser during a
routine security sweep of a non public area

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of the Vermont Slash Sunset station.
And I've passed that station every day when

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I was riding. The guard was
stabbed at the Hollywood Metro station and quote

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this resulted in an altercation where contract
security guards first utilized pepper spray i e.

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Non lethal, and then after the
trespasser stabbed one of the contract security

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guards in the leg a contract security
guard, it seems another person fired a

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weapon in self defense. This was
Metro in a statement. What is not

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clear to me when they say contract
security guard, is that a third party

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or is it a Metro entity.
That's something I will ask Supervisor Catherine Barger

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when I speak with her to tomorrow. And if you don't know Catherine Barger,

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Supervisor Barger will be joining the show
tomorrow evening as we talk about Metro

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and some of the other issues plaguing
my word Southern California, Los Angeles County,

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Los Angeles City proper. So that's
tomorrow, but definitely we're going to

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talk about Metro. The alleged trespasser
succumbed to his wounds and the guard who

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was shot was hospitalized, listed in
stable condition. Is there anything new that

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I can say today that I've not
said before? Probably not. Is there

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a range of anger that I can
display that I've not shared with you before?

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Probably not. Can I try to
appeal to your humanity or try to

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relate to you through family. Can
I use those rhetorical devices about imagine if

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it were your mother or your wife
of our already done that. I don't

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know what else new. I can
tell you someone is going to get hurt

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on the metro sometime soon in the
future. It maybe tonight, it may

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be tomorrow, It may be tonight
and tomorrow. But it doesn't change what

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needs to be done. Something needs
to be done. Yes, yesterday we

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had a dual conversation. We talked
about what was happening more generally on public

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transit. We talked about how dangerous. And it's not about statistics, it's

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about the specifics. As I always
say, I can always find some statistic

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that says violent crime is down,
or this crime is down, or this

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has improved statistically, But specifically,
we know that crime is more prevalent in

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certain aspects of our day to day
lives. Right now, we're talking about

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public transportation. Let's not get bogged
down in the stats. Let's stay with

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the specifics and specifically, public transportation
has been dealing with this issue of violence

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every single day. And this is
assuming that we know all of the incidents.

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I'm quite sure that there is crime
happening that not everyone reports. I'm

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quite sure there are issues that we're
not aware of. It just doesn't rise

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to the level sometimes all the time
of someone getting stabbed. Maybe there is

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a confrontation with a homeless person that
didn't turn into an assault. Maybe there

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is something going on with a person
who is out of their mind on drugs

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and accostant people, but it didn't
rise to the level of someone making a

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report. I'm sure stuff like that
happens every single day, but it doesn't

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rise to a certain level, and
it's not reported in the news, and

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Metro is not going to tell us
about it unless it's something that's going to

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be reported to the police. I'm
out of new words. I don't have

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anything new to say. You know, good evenings, Stepan, good evening,

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sir. Did you ride public transit
today? I did not see.

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That's why you're in a good mood. Good avening, Mark. Did you

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write public transit today? Not on
your life. That's probably why nobody tried

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to stab you today. I want
to talk about stats. Statistically, it

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is very unlikely that I'm going to
get stabbed in my own car. Statistically

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it's very unlikely, so I would
just keep driving Keana. Excuse me,

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Keanna, producer, Keanna. Let
me have a bone to pick with you.

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You spell your name k I a
na. To a reasonable connoisseur of

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the English language, a single N
usually connotes an anna sound with exeption maybe

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Diana. Well none, there's sad, but you do like a Keana Diana

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type thing? One end? Yeah, essentially, Okay, blame my parents.

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I had nothing to do with that. Are you going to be at

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the wedding? Yeah, okay,
Then I will bring it up with them.

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Then. I don't like it when
people try to confuse me with their

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names. You don't have to take
this, Kiki. You can report into

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HR. She would never do that. But to be very serious, I

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care about people. I mentioned Stephan, I mentioned Mark, I mentioned Keana

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because I care about them. I
care about you listening. I care about

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you listening. You might be in
your car and you're probably thinking, thank

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goodness, I'm in my car and
not on public transit. But here's the

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thing. Even though you may be
in your car at this moment, on

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this occasion, we all live in
the same society, we all live in

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the same city, county for the
most part, and crime doesn't stop at

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the border. It doesn't mean that, well I crossed into Orange County.

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I'm saying, no, it doesn't
work that way. Orange County is obviously

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better at prosecuting it. But it's
not limited to Los Angeles County. Last

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night I talked about this idea of
being bereaft of dignity and honor, how

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we don't see common interest and commonality
common humanity with one another. That's part

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of the problem, but we still
have to get to the bottom of this

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crime issue and violence issue. Part
of it is legislative putting people in jail.

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Part of it is the guardrails that
we put in place law enforcement on

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trains on platforms. This is a
perfect example you had, and I'm sorry

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that this contract security guard was injured, but having that presence possibly probably likely

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prevented that from happening to someone else. It was the security guard on this

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occasion, it could have been someone's
mother later that day. That's how I

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choose to look at it. But
tomorrow we'll speak with Supervisor Katherine Barker and

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hopefully get some clarity on what we
as a county LA County at least are

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doing wrong, what we need to
do to get better at this and make

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this place a much better place,
a safer place for you and me and

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everyone we care about, because we
cannot continue on this trajectory. We cannot

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continue dealing with people getting shanked and
shot on a daily basis just trying to

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get to and from work. That
is unheard of, That is ridiculous.

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We have to be able to say
we can do better than this. Can

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we eradicate all crime? No,
that's probably not possible, but we can

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damn sure do better than what we're
doing right now. You're listening to Later

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with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty and a part of the

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larger discussion about violence. We talked
about violence generally in the city, violence

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specifically on public transportation, but there's
also the issue of violence in our high

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schools, middle schools, even sometimes
elementary schools. So once again the debate

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has heated up regarding school resource officers, actual sworn peace officers armed on many

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campuses here in southern California, high
schools specifically. And I understand the argument

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on both sides of the issue.
Here's where I sit personally, and I

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say this as someone who does not
have a school age child to worry about.

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I am not opposed to having a
school resource officer. In fact,

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I lean more to it than I
lean away from it. But here's the

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thing. When you have a school
resource officer, I would hope in a

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perfect world, that that school resource
officer is outward focused, trying to keep

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threats off the campus from coming on, dealing with things which are outside the

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gates. For the most part,
when you have a school resource officer being

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the person who is charged with handling
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for me because I wouldn't want my
child interfacing with the police quote unquote in

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that way. We've seen the videos
where the situations get out of hand and

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you have a school officer, maybe
well intentioned, treating that child and it's

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still a child like a perpetrator and
arresting them. You've seen the videos of

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school resource officers putting children. I'm
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That's not something I want. That's
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and I don't think you would want
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where the debate is. Keeping children
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these school resource officers facing outward or
inward with their responsibilities. Law enforcement responding

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outside Carson High School, please dealing
with a young man here. While paramedics

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were come someone injured there a huge
response. The campus was already on alert

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after parents were notified. A threat
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wall, along with this social media
post that scared some parents enough to want

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to remain anonymous as they kept their
kids at home. They showing a picture

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of a gun and it said Carson
CCHS Carson High School. This At the

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same time, a Board of Education
task force releases a study citing a marked

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increase in high school violence in the
last few years, from the recent shooting

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death of a fifteen year old Washington
Prep student during an after school confrontation just

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outside campus to a middle schooler caught
with weapons in Northridge this week. Fatal

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fenttal overdoses, brawls, incidents of
fights, and physical aggression have just about

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doubled since police officers were removed from
campuses responding to protests. The board slashed

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the school police budget by thirty five
percent. I wish they would have left

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the police on the campuses of the
high school. She's not alone. A

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parent organized petition demanding the return of
police at LAUSD schools will be presented at

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the school board meeting tomorrow, where
the talk is about possibly allowing individual schools

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and parents to decide if they want
police on campus. No, it's not

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necessary. The amount of sure you're
going to have problems anywhere you go.

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If anything happens around the school,
you're gonna see this. Twalie, you

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are a parent of two school age
children. One is getting ready to graduate

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high school, the other is entering
in high school early in high school.

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You work as an administrator at a
school. You have, i would say,

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a ground level view of all this
from the vanish point of being a

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parent, a school administrator. Where
do you come out on this? Absolutely

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am in support of and I am
glad that parent groups are petitioning LAUSD to

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bring back school resource officers. Anytime
I arrived at either my son or daughter

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school and I see a police presence
there, I actually do feel a sense

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of relief because they are there in
a position that they are protecting the school

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from anyone coming from the outside.
On the outside, I have received I

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don't know how many alerts from the
school system alerting me and my children's parent

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that there has been a threat,
whether credible or not, that's being investigated,

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and instantaneously my heart sinks when I
see that. Knowing that that there

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would be an la USD resource officer
on hand, it would ease my tension,

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It would make me have just a
better day in general on campus.

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Though, No, because you and
I have also seen resource officers go above

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and beyond and ultimately end up hurting
and I believe forever damaging children. And

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I believe that we see that more
often than not in inner city communities,

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where relations are already strained between what
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I don't want that inside the campus. I think that schools need to

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have a better system of securing the
halls and securing the campus. Period.

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When you and I grew up,
there was a school security guard on campus

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and it was just a big dude. Chances are it was track code something

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like that. I am okay with
that. And if LAUSD or Orange County

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Unified or any school district needs to
have more on site, just plain clothes

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security guards, security on your shirt, yellow shirt guys, fine resource officers.

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Absolutely, I'm wholeheartedly in support of
that vote, Okay, And it

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doesn't have to be all of this
or none of that. It may vary

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from school to school. But I
do know I'm very concerned with the idea

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of having law enforcement interfacing with kids
in a police perpetrator sort of relationship way,

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because all it's going to do is
escalate to something that is going to

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benefit me there. I just know. I watched that video of that young

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man recently. I believe it was
at Crenshaw who was getting the life stomped

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out of them by a bunch of
young men who were not from that campus.

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Had there been school resource officers,
I think they would have thought twice

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about even sneaking onto the campus to
enact that violence. And the clip I

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played was started with what was happening
the threats at Carson High School. I

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know Carson High School. I know
a lot of those kids officiating their youth

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basketball league for the past fifteen years. A lot of them I've seen grown

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up, grow up, and then
they go to Carson High School officiate games

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at Carson High School. So that's
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that area very well. I would
not want to see law enforcement at those

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middle schools. For example, we
have LA County Sheriff at our games,

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but that's outward facing. You know, we're dealing with the public at that

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point. That's completely different from them
being on campus and dealing with students.

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Would I would, I would really
hesitate to support that you're listening to later

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with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
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asked by people because they know I
practice mansoral LARTs. You know what style

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do you do? Have you ever
had to use it? Hop keto?

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Yes, yes, yes. The
point I try to make is self defense

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is largely about preparing for situations before
they happen, conducting yourself in a way

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which is safer in nature, not
trying. I will never sit here and

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say, hey, you got to
be ready to fight someone who's, you

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know, fifty pounds heavier than you, or who's stronger or younger. There's

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always someone stronger, younger, and
faster than you. I always talk about

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managing your emotions, de escalation and
if you do train, train to use

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it only if you absolutely need to
and if you have to fight, like

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your life depends upon it. That's
what I do, and from time to

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time. We also do women's self
defense seminars and classes. They're relatively simple,

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but it's usually the simple stuff which
is the most effective. Strike get

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away, you know, don't try
to hang around and trade with someone.

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But in this time in which we
are all, I would say all of

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us are very concerned about crime,
violence, our own personal safety. I

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can't imagine what it would be like
to be a woman in today's day and

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age, and how that figures into
how she would move about society, just

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going to the grocery store, taking
the dogs for a walk, anything,

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things that most men take for granted, it might be considered differently if you

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happen to be a woman. Not
that women are victims, it's just something

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that I think men have the luxury
of walking through spaces and places and not

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have to consider certain times that we
may be vulnerable to assault. It's just

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different for men and women in that
regard. And I came across this have

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a lot of thoughts about it.
Listen to this. I'm a new mom.

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Obviously I have my hands full.
What should I do? We're walking

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into the grocery store. It's still
easy for you to stay equipped. You

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can have something on a belt buckle
away from your child. With that quick

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release for a purse, you can
also have it in your pocket. What

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I love is that Damsel also has
these wristlets that can literally carry it all.

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Jen says, you are your own
best defense in these crazy times.

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Why the soundtrack, it's weird fence
in these crazy times, it's incredibly alarming.

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We're seeing it the dramatic music.
Sinister, what's going on here?

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Your own best defense in these crazy
times, it's incredibly alarming. We're seeing

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in on the headlines constantly. She
says. They is to try never come

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in contact with a predator, but
just in case, four things to carry.

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I have my alarm with the GPS
tracking, I have a stun device,

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I have a striking tool for close
contact strikes, and I have my

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pepper spray. But also says one
of the best tools is your voice.

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So he's coming at me and I
do a back off, there's a bigger

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chance he's going to back off.
Using these techniques may in fact help you

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too. Not become a statistic if
we are the consequence, because we can't

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get the consequences through our justice system
or whatever. What if we are the

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consequence because we can't get the consequence
through the justice system or whatever. Is

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that what she said? If we
are the consequence because we can't get the

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consequences through our justice system or whatever. But we have to start to learn

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to be the consequence ourselves. Don't
listen to her. Don't listen to her.

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If you think that you're going to
be the consequence, you're going to

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be death wish. If you're going
to be that person out there, don't

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know. Don't listen to her.
Are you talking to me? I know

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somewhere Charlton Heston is saying, no, that's a movie. Excuse me,

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Charles Bronson. Don't do anything to
escalate a confrontation if you can avoid it.

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You don't want to get in a
fight with someone. And I tell

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my students this all the time.
Songs of Keto were on some Palpta,

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Bolivarden, Culprit City. I tell
them all the time. The last thing

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you want to do, regardless of
who you are, is get in a

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fight. The last thing why because
you could lose, get seriously injured or

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killed. You could win and get
seriously injured, You can win and get

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sued. You could also put someone
else in danger who may be with you.

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You could win, and someone can
come back later and shoot you.

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You could also get in a fight
with someone and not know that they have

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two or three friends around. They
could have a weapon that you don't see.

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The last thing you ever want to
do, and I say this to

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men and women, is get in
a physical confrontation. If you can avoid

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it, just don't do it.
This is horrible advice. Yeah, if

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you should have a handy hand a
carrying weapon, Okay, that's fine.

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You can carry some brass knuckles or
something. Sure, knock yourself out,

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no pun intended. But honestly,
don't try to take on an assailant because

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you think that George Gascon is not
doing his job, so I'm going to

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do his job for him. If
we are the consequence, because we can't

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get the consequences through our justice system
or whatever, but we have to start

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to learn to be the consequence ourselves. We have to start learning to be

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the consequence ourselves. What is that? What the hell is that? Mark?

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What is she trying to say?
It's a bunch of foolishness. I

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agree with you on this one moment. You have to make that distinction.

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This one this day just this one
time, nothing else for the rest of

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the evening, but on this one
Yeah, and you know what I I

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also have taught martial arts, and
I found the women's students to be far

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more brittle than the men and far
more willing to kick in the crotch with

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with no self restrained. However,
there's however, there's a huge difference between

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that and a real life confrontation where
nobody wins. Ever. Ever, and

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if you've ever been in a real
confrontation, the adrenaline, you have to

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know how to process that. You
have to know how to handle that in

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a moment that fright or fight,
fight or flight, because there are three

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things which could happen. You could
be so consumed with fear you freeze up.

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You could fight, or you can
run. So there are three things

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which could happen. I just want
you to be safe, and part of

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being safe is to avoid those dangerous
situations. So you don't have to,

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you know, but you can always
come see us at song sub Keto.

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