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This is w W Superstar Drew McIntyre
and you're listening to the WWE podcast God

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Show, the one that everybody wants
me Step three sixteen and says, I

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just clist your ass is my You're
gonna like malachree. Alrighty, everybody,

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time for the mailbag. It's Wednesday, April twenty six, twenty twenty three.

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Let's get into it. Let's let's
get what's on your mind, starting

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with the patrons and Jared Lee.
He says, am I the only one

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who is surprised that Gunther versus Woods
was close. I felt like that should

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have been a squash match for Gunther. No way, Gunther is in a

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close match with Woods. Should have
been a power bomb and done. I

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don't care who the other team was, Gunn Gunter and done. So yeah,

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and in reality, yeah, if
this was an actual competitive sport,

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yes, of course, there's no
question. But they value Woods and if

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you remember back when they did Bobby
Lashley versus Xavier Woods, I think it

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was last year. The Xavier Woods
put on a hell of a show against

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Bobby Lashley. And the thing is
also not only is he's a mainstay,

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he was He's been a part of
one of the most successful groups in w

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history. But the narrative is,
especially with an established guy, everyone takes

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everyone to the limit. Very rarely
do you see a squash match with men

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and women that are established, Very
rarely. So you knew it was going

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to be competitive, you knew the
story going in at the at the end

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of it anyway, was going to
be Oh, Xavier took gunther to the

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limit. Nonsense, right, I
agree? All right, let's see,

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let's see, Alex says, I
wanted once again to ask you about your

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perception of time. What do you
mean by you think it doesn't exist?

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Could it be an after dark subject? You're European champion, Alex, Yeah,

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so that is going to be a
topic that I'm going to dive into

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probably the next time I do it
after dark. It's a little bit more

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in depth about time and space and
the perception of time. I'm no,

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you know, Neil deGrasse Tyson,
Okay, I'm not. I'm not anywhere

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near there. But I'll try to
break it down into why I think time

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does not exist, it's just a
mirage, and also maybe talk about if

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I think we're actually in a simulation
that's a hot topic too, So yeah,

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if you're interested. By the way, guys, if you're wondering what

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the after Dark Show is, it's
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talk about really everything everything, all
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It's R rated often sometimes X rated. Not for the kids, okay,

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And that's available to you at the
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All right, what else we got
from another patron here? And this is

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oh oh wow, alright a return
here We've got doctor b g B And

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he says, I haven't been on
the mailbag in so long, but I

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just felt the urge to finally return. So once again, Hey, Matt

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Hope all as well, this is
the doc of the w B podcast,

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Doctor b GB. I just have
to ask you, who do you think

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will be the first new World Heavyweight
Champion? And do you like the belt

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design? So? Do I like
the new belt design? At first?

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No, I would have just left
it as is. I love the old

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World Heavyweight Championship. Look, I
didn't think there was a need to change

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it. But belt evolve and it's
not surprising that they put the logo right

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in the middle of what was otherwise
a beautiful belt. It'll grow on us,

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you know, at least it's not
the interbelt. It's not my favorite

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right now, but it's I'm not
going to spend you know, too much

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time complaining about it. What it
represents is more more important to me.

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But who do I think the World
heavyweight Champion is going to be the new

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one? If I was going to
put a you know, money on it,

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probably Cody, because I think I
think Seth is going to SmackDown where

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I think Roman will remain. And
there's a massive story to tell with Roman

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and Seth that they have yet to
tell. And you can't have the new

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world heavyweight champion go where Roman goes
because that means that that I mean that

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that would go in complete opposite of
what Triple Ate said on Raw, that

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that championship will go wherever Roman does
not, And I think Seth's going where

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Roman does. There By Roman,
or rather Seth has not become a champion.

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So I think it's Cody Rhodes,
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think it should be Seth, he
deserves it so much. But I think

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the match of the night at at
Night of Champions should be Seth versus Finn

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in the ring. It would be
magical and have Seth overcome the odds of

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the judgment day would be awesome.
So yeah, and also very apropos Remember

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how the very first Universal Champion was
Finn Balor who faced Seth Rollins. So

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a little bit of poetic poetry there, I guess, right, But yeah,

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I don't hate that. And you
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to SmackDown and they somehow avoid Seth
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some reason they still don't do it, then sure Seth has an absolute case

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to be made and it's going to
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baby face champion, especially the way
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the person who wins this is going
to be a one that defends it anytime,

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anywhere, which is again why number
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anyone can earn it at any time
and it's there's no parameters, there's there's

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nothing, there's no prequalifications. You
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against anyone that asks you. It's
ridiculous. But that all that told me

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was beyond devaluing. The damn thing
was that that that it's going to be

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a baby face, because that's what
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They defended it against anyone. I
hate that narrative. Heels got it

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right. Heel's got it right.
They're they're selective, whether they're doing it

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out of cowardice or whatever. At
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right. Anyway, besides that,
I have one more question, and it's

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what's your favorite match for the Old
World Heavyweight Championship. There's so many grades,

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including including the first ever elimination chamber. Um, anyway, I'll talk

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to you next time, doctor BGB. So the first man my favorite anything

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Shawn Michaels and a Triple H and
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mean, really, any of them, any of them, whether it's the

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Bad Blood match, I think it
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those two had, or was actual
hellless sald match I can't remember, and

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that was amazing. The Royal Rumble
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was with Sean and and Triple H. The Last Man Standing match. I

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mean, just just go down the
list, So just take your pick of

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Triple H. Shawn Michaels from that
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world title. That's my answer.
All right, let's keep moving on here,

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and our next email is from Let's
see Thomas Franco. He saw from

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Montreal and you guys heard him on
the actual Elimination Chamber review show. If

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you guys remember, he was in
attendance for the Sammy's and Roman Reigns title

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match, and he says, it's
been a minute since I last wrote in,

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but I've been waiting since Mania to
see what the fallout would look like.

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I'd like to start off by saying, finally, Triple H bringing back

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the World Heavyweight Championship has been a
long time coming. That was my favorite

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belt back in the day wrestling,
and I remember a lot of my favorite

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wrestlers holding it like Edge seen at
Orton and so on. I don't think

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Cody should win it, and here's
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the finish the story narrative, I
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forty. Cody didn't beat Roman at
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crowd. I think you have a
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will start getting annoyed by lack of
a world championship around his ways. I

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think they're already annoyed, thoughe Thomas. I mean they're already there are people

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still losing their minds over the fact
that Cody Rhodes didn't win at Mania.

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And why would you not want to
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mean, by in six to eight
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wrestling speak. So I think,
what if by that time though, the

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fans have kind of given up hope
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long and they're just kind of disinterested
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eight months, Again, in wrestling, time is an enormous amount of time,

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and a lot can happen. What
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don't know? So for me,
I would strike while the iron's hot kind

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of balance out the Roman Reigns equation
with the Cody Rhodes championship. But I

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hear what you're saying. A Cody
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certainly would be a big moment,
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crowd is as hot as it's going
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I don't think you can continue to
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WrestleMania forty. I just I don't
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your logic. I just think that
you know, they've got a great situation,

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They've got a top baby face,
the fans by have bought in,

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you know, that kind of thing, and I think that absolutely right now

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a Cody is the right time.
But I understand your logic too, and

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I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't
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see you go on to say that
you agree with my opinion that it has

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to be a baby face who wins
the title at Night of champions and your

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picks to be in contention to win
are Seth Shintgate and Bobby Lashley. I

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think Rollins has to be the guy
to win it. He can hold the

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title right up to the Rumble and
then possibly build a few with Roman for

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WrestleMania forty. Screw the Rock he
ain't shown up. You can then have

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Cody and someone else face off of
the World every Way Championshipeth Shinskey and Bobby

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Shinsky probably not. I mean they're
doing an unnice build for his return,

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and Shinsky is I believe, undefeated
since he returned, which isn't saying much.

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But I don't think that they viewed
Shinsky as even in contention for the

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championship. Now, he may be
a part of the tournament that I'm imagining

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they construct, but he may not
make it pass probably the second round,

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I think. And yeah, the
Rock, excuse me, ain't shown up

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now. I mean WrestleMania forty given
it's a nice round number in Philly.

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There is history with Roman and Rock
in Philly from the Royal Rumble in twenty

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fifteen. If you remember, the
Rock came out and Roman Reigns was an

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awful baby face at that point.
Roman Reigns won the Rumble, the Rock

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try to come out and save him
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still bowed, the Rocks still booed
Roman, and it was a beautiful thing

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to see, So you could you
know there's history there. But yeah,

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I agree, until I see the
Rock physically, I'm not predicting anything.

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I agree, all right, So
I think wwe should do this because it

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allows them to tease Seth in Roman
for the world for Roman's title. But

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at Survivor Series later this year,
in a Champion versus Champion match, you

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can plant the seeds here and still
get a great headlining match. Well,

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that also depends if they're going to
go with the brand versus brand nonsense that

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they did but did away with this
past year, which I really enjoyed,

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and they went to war Games,
So I don't. I'm saying no only

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because war Games seems to be the
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and I don't think they'll do Champion
versus Champion. If they ever do Champion

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versus Champion, it has to be, as you said, in kind of

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a non title match, because you
can't unify the already unified belt that Romans

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carrying and then the World Heavyweight Championship
to go back to one. So if

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you have Champion versus Champion, it
has to be non title. But I

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hear what you're saying. Lastly,
looking forward to the Backlash card for a

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B level premium live event, I
think there are a lot of matches that

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have the potential to be amazing if
given time. I think long term w

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W should be looking to have Bianca
dropped the championship to EO Sky when she

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ultimately turns baby face after the damage
control splits. EO Sky versus Oscar at

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Summers sign would be a headline match, but the likes of W likelihood of

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W doing this are not too high
since both the talent don't have English as

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their first language. That's all for
me, Take care, keep with the

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great work. Thanks Tom. Yeah, I mean that hasn't stopped them in

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the past from putting a title on
somebody. I mean, how long was

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Oscar the women's champion? I mean
a long time Raw women's champion, not

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the best run and they actually seem
to have forgotten her for several months if

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you remember that back in twenty twenty
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Women's champion. But they aren't shy
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Now the ceiling is lower because they
can't communicate with their their main audience,

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certainly, but I don't think that
they would shy away from a match that

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they would deem as a high quality
match. It's a new right. They

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love, they love their new matches. Oscar has a new look. I

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love that. I mean, I
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it's not their first language. There's
a lot of men and women that you

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know, English isn't their first language, but I mean they're they're limited.

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English is just I mean, it's
atrocious. I agree. All right,

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So thanks Tom. Let's get to
our next patron, mister DJ Kuzmo,

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and he says he's back at it
again on our mail bag show. I

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know everyone's going to talk about it, but let's talk about it again and

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again. I'm talking about none other
than the return of the World Heavyweight title,

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the Monda and at Raw. Here
we go, everyone, this is

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what we've been waiting for for far
too long. Since Roman became a duel

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champion of last year's WrestleMania, many
of us have mentioned in time passing that

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it would be great to bring back
the world heavyweight title. I like how

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Triple H mentions that this new champion
will quote be a champion you can be

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proud of. This will be a
champion you can respect. This will be

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a champion you can admire. Now, with that being said, I think

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we all know who it's going to
be to become the World Heavyweight Champion.

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I'm not I'm talking about none other
than Seth Freakin Rollins. But let's pump

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the brakes here. Wait a minute. We have about twenty nine or thirty

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days until we know who the new
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Is it going to be a singles
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Plus, there are still some unanswered
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will look like after the draft.
In addition to that, does having this

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new world title on Raw presumably,
DJ presumably and FO the brand split of

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only having the Raw roster compete for
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The answer to as yes, because
Triple H was very clear that Roman,

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wherever he lands, is exclusive to
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presumably. I mean, we all
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going to be a Raw title and
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really nice home on SmackDown. I
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just because of him, I mean
he's there every you know, every third

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week or fourth week, but just
the storyline of the bloodline. They're a

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such a pillar of a foundational piece
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Can there possibly be a unification ceremony
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one thousandth day as champion, Because
if not, my issue would continue to

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be there are too many title belts
on the roster. How about for crying

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out loud not literally though about unifying
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having only one on the main roster. Well, they did unify them.

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The problem is that they unified them, but then then they've over the last

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couple of months had a SmackDown or
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raw tag team title match, and
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Down tag team title match. If
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means they are a singular entity.
You can't just willy nilly split them.

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I guess because the physical belts haven't
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a one belt to represent the one
championship. Don't have two belts representing one

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championship. I think that's the confusion. I'm totally with you. If you're

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going to have a unified belt,
and I hope they do create one,

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right, don't don't do two anyway
you do that, you don't have to

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pick a color, keep them the
same style, and all you have to

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do is just turn it black.
Right. You don't have to go red

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or blue, you just go black. So, or if you really want

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to get cute, go perp.
So it's a mix of red and blue.

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Right. But yeah, the one
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going to be a very interesting one. And here's the other weird thing.

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It's gonna be, as we all
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Saudi Arabia. He's gonna win whatever
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whoever he faces at that event,
or Cody, who knows. But the

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thing is, he's not going to
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champion celebrating his one thousandth day because
more than likely he's gonna be drafted to

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SmackDown. So I guess, from
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Monday Night Raw. After the event. He won't be a part of Raw,

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he'll be a part of SmackDown.
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World heavyweight Champion, which presumably is
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fun, all right? What else, DJ, A lot of unanswered questions,

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so many different goals. Let's enjoy
the moment for Mondonette raw Yeah,

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I agree. Let's just enjoy the
fact that they heard us, they heard

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our complaints, and they are doing
something about it, and that's all we

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can ask now. I quickly want
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Brock attacked Cody a few weeks ago, a logical reason that I thought of

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from a storyline perspective of why Brock
attack Cody. Here we go. The

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reason why Brock attack Cody has nothing
to do with Brock. It has everything

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to do with Paul Hayman. From
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Brock Lesner's phone number. Paul could
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the Brock turn in terms of getting
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and two getting Brock away from challenging
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umpteenth time. Plus Cody needs to
earn a title opportunity. The long drawn

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out storyline way and not take a
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Roman. Just an opinion, enough, said DJ Couzmo signing off okay,

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not impossible. And anytime that Paul
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always going to be there and this
and that Paul diverts or cowers or gets

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anxious and nervous, which tells you
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storyline, but in real life of
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this now, DJ, yours is
a smart logical reason. I have no

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problem with that. I mean my
multi layer problem with the explanations that we

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got with from the announced team and
from Cody. We're number one, we

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were hearing explanations that weren't consistent with
brock Lessner's character at all. Number two,

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they were both speculative, and number
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dude himself. I don't want to
hear about speculation, and then speculation on

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top of illogical reasons. Give me
Brock's reason. I want to hear it

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from him. He shouldn't be off
the hook here because he's not great at

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promos. Give him basic reasons,
even if it's a terrible reason or a

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weak reason. At least I will
respect this a little bit more if they

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just have Brock give us something.
But they've done this time and again with

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Broclos and her programs that they feel
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why he's done. When he's done. It's just Brock beating Brock. That's

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lazy, that's lazy booking, that's
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cents. All right, Let's get
to a couple more emails here, and

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then we'll jump into the voicemails.
And this one is from Chandler. Not

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not Chandler, No, it is
Chandler. Sorry, he says, Hey,

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Matt, Wow, the newer world
title looks great except for the big

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WW logo in the middle. Yeah, I think again. I think in

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time we'll get used to it.
Where But if you've seen the World Heavyweight

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Championship in the past, it's bigger
and it's all gold, and there's no

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big, you know, big logo
in the middle. I missed the days

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when the world title is made to
look like a true championship and not used

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as a promotional tool. But other
than that, I really do like it.

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I hope they hold a tournament for
it and someone really deserving wins,

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like Drew Seth, Cody Bobby.
Anyway, thanks for a time and doing

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your podcast. You make my workday
go by faster. Well, I'm glad.

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I'm glad I can help you out
at work, and I think you're

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your few men that you mentioned here
are the favorites, right, Drew,

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So, Drew, Seth, Cody, Bobby. Yes, I really can't

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see anybody else coming out of the
woodwork to win this. And like I

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mentioned last night, dare you put
it out in the universe that Roman Rains

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wins this? Imagine? I almost
would love to see them do it.

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They won't, but you're correct,
it's one of those four no doubt.

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And yeah, I mean I think
they're going to do a tournament, and

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I think that tournament can't even be
announced or the brackets filled until after obviously

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the draft is done, so you
know who can actually compete. What's crazy

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though, they haven't even told us
how the draft is being done, which

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is weird? Is it lottery?
Is it? Is it just you know

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you get a pick, I get
two picks because I'm raw one pick for

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every two. I mean, I
don't know that it's weird. They haven't

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given us a format, but thanks
Chandler. All right, one more email

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here, Let's get to Isaac.
He says, I hope you're doing well

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man. I'm Isaac Williams from Manchester, England and it's my first time writing

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in Well Welcome. Isaac recently got
back into ww since Triple H became head

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of creative and I've started to feel
how I did when I was younger,

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growing up in the late Ruthless Aggression, early PG era. I've been listening

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to the show now for the past
few months since I started my new job

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and wanted to discover other perspectives on
the product that I've made. You guys

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a part of my weekly routine.
So thank you for getting me through my

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shifts. And you guys use this
a lot for work. I'm not complaining.

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It's just you never know who's listening
to us where you have no idea.

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I mean, I'm sitting in my
little office and you just never know

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who the hell you're reaching. You
know, that's really cool. My question

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for you is do you think the
future of w W is in good hands,

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or do you think the quality of
the next generation has been grossly over

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exaggerated. I'm not one hundred percent
sure myself on how much growing Room stars

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like Carmelo, Hayes, Creed Brothers, Broun, Breaker, et cetera.

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Have. Well, I think WW
is in good hands as long as Vince

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stays the hell away. Now,
Vince isn't going to be Vince is involved

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in I think day to day operational, behind the scenes stuff, presuming he's

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not in creative I think WW has
a chance to evolve because I think Vince

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McMahon's vision for the company and the
way he does things, and his temperament,

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everything, all of those things are
kind of a cancer at this point

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in w W. And look,
he's built an amazing empire. Respect to

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the man, he's the reason we're
all here. But it's just time to

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move on, you know. He's
mentally decaying in front of our eyes,

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physically decaying in front of our eyes, and it's just it's just time to

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move on this hall. But I
think we are in good hands. The

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next quality, the quality of the
next generation, I mean, when you

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say over exaggerated in what way?
Who's who do you think is over exaggerating

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it. If you think it's the
announcers on NXT, or if you think

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maybe it's the wrestlers on social media
or WW themselves in some way, well,

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what do you expect them to say? That's their job, especially the

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announcers, to put over the talent. What are they going to say?

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I mean, even if they truly
believe it, what are they just supposed

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to say? Well, guys,
you know, this next generation of NXT

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stars kind of looks a little vanilla
to me. But you know, maybe

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we'll get maybe we'll get something out
of them, right, of course not,

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They're going to try to sell them
like the next coming of John Cena

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called in the Rock Stone Cold.
I mean, that's their job. That's

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their job. So I guess it
depends on who is saying what when you're

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talking about over exaggeration. But I
think Gunther and Pretty Deadly have the chance

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to become megastars. But I feel
someone like MJF will need to be brought

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in to face be the face of
the company and not rely on returns from

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Roman Reigns the same way they do
currently with the stars of the Attitude era.

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Once again, many thanks for making
my day easier Sea. Thanks Isaac.

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Yeah, Gunther, I mean Gunther
is a future world champion, whether

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it's the world heavyweight or the undisputed. Absolutely and pretty deadly. I followed

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loosely, but from what I've seen, I'm impressed. And MJF, I

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mean, you guys don't need to
hear me say it once again. I

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hope w w E writes as many
zeros on the check that is needed to

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get MJF into the company. I
think he would do wonders here. It

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would certainly hurt AW in a big
way. But if MJF is going to

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follow the money, then I would
say, while Tony Khna absolutely has deep

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pockets, I would just I would
put as many zeros as necessary on that

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check. He is a once in
a generation talent. I mean that,

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and I'm not saying that lightly or
to create buzz or whatever. MJF is

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a once in a generation talent,
and I'm not talking necessarily in ring.

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In ring, he is very good. I actually think he doesn't get the

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credit he deserves for in ring and
how good he is in ring, and

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how good shape he's gotten in it's
personality, presence and of course Mike skills.

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He shows you how important it is
and how much of an asset it

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can be if you can talk right. If you can talk, the wrestling

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almost becomes secondary, doesn't it.
And so I think MJF and WWE would

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give him a new playground to play
on for a long time, on a

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bigger stage, and it would create
more buzz. I think he'd make more

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money than he would in AW long
term, and think of the fantasy matchups.

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As you said, Yeah, WW
sometimes relies on the Attitude era too

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much and eventually they're going to be
aged out of that because of just time.

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Father time wins all battles. But
MJF is young, he's going to

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just get better and as long as
w W if if they bring him in

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and they're desk determined to bring him
in, you let him go on the

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mic. You don't restrict him.
You do exactly what AW has done,

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minus the obviously the TV fourteen language, which does hurt a little bit in

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what he is about because he's kind
of like Shock promo, but he speaks

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truth and doesn't in a way that
is a bit risk a because of the

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TV fourteen rating in AW. But
if you're able to kind of still deliver

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the same message, but do it
in a way that's said, you know

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a little bit more TVPG. I
think he can absolutely be a mega star

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in WWE. And and look,
twenty twenty four is we're almost May first

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here, So what is that?
How many months? Eight months? Right?

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Yeah, eight months away? So
TikTok, TikTok. Thanks Isaac.

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All right, everybody that does it, I believe hold on, hold on,

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wait, wait, no, we
have, we have. Dennis O'Brien.

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I didn't want to miss you,
buddy. You said, how are

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you very short? Here? Quick
question? Where the hell is Shanky?

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I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. You know,

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I'd imagine maybe he's in raw underground
with Debacado, I'm not sure,

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or Commander Dizz maybe maybe maybe they're
all down in raw underground training. I

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honestly don't know. I honestly that
is the first time I've heard Shanky in

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months. All right, Darren,
I know that you said this is not

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for the mail bag, but it
doesn't seem personal and I'm not giving any

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of your last name or anything,
so you're still anonymous generally. So Darren,

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here's what you said, and I'm
only answering this because I'd rather speak

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it than right back you said that. I just wanted to share with you

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my journey back to watching wrestling,
or back to watching WWE. I was

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a big fan when I was younger, from about oh four to OZ nine

404
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.039
when I was watching, but then
you know, high school and it's quote

405
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.279
not cool anymore with friends. Anyway, a few months back, I was

406
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.799
on Twitter and I saw a highlight
clip of the WrestleMania seventeen TLC match with

407
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.960
the Hardy's, Dudley's Edge and Christian
and I was like, oh, I

408
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.039
need to watch that full match.
So I got Peacock just for that,

409
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.480
then decided to watch old other old
matches, and then one day I saw

410
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.960
Survivor Series war Games and I figured
might as well watch that. Shortly after,

411
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.920
I found your podcast and I'm back
totally hooked and loving it. Even

412
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:23.799
got my girlfriend to watch all the
pls with me since her since then and

413
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:29.400
had her screaming at Soloska for cheating
to help Roman Rains win against Cody.

414
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.039
Sorry when online just wanted to share
with somebody, Well, Darren, No,

415
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.680
I mean again, I know you
didn't mean that for the mailbag,

416
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.839
but since it's nothing on a personal
level, it's still wrestling related and I

417
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.480
don't give me your last name or
anything like that, I still felt comfortable

418
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.440
sharing this on the mailbag. I'm
glad you got back into wrestling. First

419
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:51.480
of all, sometimes the product can
take you away. And I totally get

420
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:55.480
the not cool thing. The not
cool factor is something that all wrestling fans

421
00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:02.759
deal with at one point or another
in their wrestling fandom, where you always

422
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.119
get people who are it's just not
cool to watch, or you get especially

423
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.640
in high school. Right, high
school's a mess. It's high schools a

424
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.640
mess as it is. I mean, you know, if you watch a

425
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:21.279
show that's deemed stupid or fake or
not cool, then you know, those

426
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.880
are things at that age that you
you're looking for validation from friends and you

427
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.640
want to be able to fit into
a group. I mean, that's now

428
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:32.200
I don't give it damn right,
Like at thirty eight years old, I

429
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.799
could give a you know what less. In fact, if someone says they

430
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.119
don't find it cool or don't like
it, what does that make me want

431
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.640
to do? Double down? Right? So, you know, but at

432
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:47.279
that age, from what fourteen to
seventeen or eighteen. You want to be

433
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.079
accepted, and if something's not cool, you either have to pretend you don't

434
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.839
watch it or actually stop watching it. So a lot of people fall off

435
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.880
and it you know, it sucks. But I'm glad you're back, and

436
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.680
you certainly started at a hell of
a high point. WrestleMania seventeen regarded as

437
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.839
one of the best, if not
the best WrestleMania of all time. A

438
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:14.720
stone cold heel turn Rock Austin Part
two, Dudley's the infamous triple Threat TLC

439
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:19.240
match. I mean, geez,
I'm glad you're back. I'm glad your

440
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.160
girlfriend's into it. That's cool.
And to define a girl that isn't that

441
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:29.960
enjoys wrestling also mat she's a keeper, okay, because oftentimes you guys out

442
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.440
there can probably relate whether you have
girlfriends or wives or whatever. You know,

443
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:38.519
you probably are ignored, or you
have to go in a separate room,

444
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.319
or she does something else while you
watch wrestling, right, because she

445
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.559
has no interest most of the time. It's not all the time, most

446
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.920
so, all right, Darren,
thanks buddy, I'm glad you're back.

447
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:56.000
All right. That does it for
email portion of the show. Let's dive

448
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.960
into those voicemails right now. Hello, gonna make podcast. Well this is

449
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.640
dj KU's go back at it again
on your mail, Max Shall record to

450
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.000
live on a Wedday, wanted And
before we get to the v V the

451
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.799
VI the ver Mahart Report, Before
we get to the ver Mahard Report,

452
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.759
Man, I gotta say this.
I gotta say this. Last week,

453
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:21.319
I don't know how, I don't
know where, but the WWE The Bump,

454
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.599
that weekly show that comes on every
single I believe it's Wednesday. For

455
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:29.720
some reason, they found my tweet
and my tweet went viral. Oh my

456
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:35.680
goodness, so shut out to everybody
that mentioned about that tweet in the discord

457
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:37.799
chat. Shout out to all the
patriarchs in the discord chat that mentioned that

458
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.799
to me, that pointed it out
to me that my tweet went viral on

459
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.279
w w E The Bump. Now, one of the odds, What are

460
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.359
the odds that whatever you put on
the Internet goes viral. It's like a

461
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.559
one of the million chats that your
stuff can get viral, your video,

462
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.079
your tweet. So if you believe
in yourself and you keep working at it,

463
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.400
and you keep working at it,
you never know your stuff of Mike

464
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.640
Dick viral, just like Mines last
week. Oh my goodness, now,

465
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.559
man, this is not a motificial
space, folks. Let's get back to

466
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.000
Jill favorishon to come on every single
week on the mail bag, and I'm

467
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:15.720
talking about the fear the Vi Maha
report. Now, the Vir Maha report

468
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:22.759
took place last night on NXT and
again again again there was still no mention

469
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.799
of Vir Maha. There was Ston
no mission Saga, there was Ston no

470
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.960
mission I thing in this year.
I run the Modern Day made Raja Jenna

471
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.880
mahall again for I don't know how
many weeks now, it feels like three

472
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:40.480
months now, but I know that
next week as a regular episode of NXT

473
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.240
and hopefully, just hopefully we get
to see the appearance ever in this year,

474
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:51.880
maybe going against Gallus the NXT Tag
Team Champions or remember another tag team

475
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.039
that has coming up in the NXC
Tag Team division. Because I checked the

476
00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.039
Vir Maha social, I checked a
Saga social and I checked in them on

477
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.640
a day Maha Raja social and still
there has not been any any tweets,

478
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.800
any new messages to give me some
hints. So it seems like they are

479
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.800
back, they are back in America, and hopefully, just hopefully they'll be

480
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.679
back next week. Be in this
shar oh my guy vir mahan, oh,

481
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.800
my guys, saga and of course
the Mata day mah raja maha.

482
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.400
Now with that being said, or
you'll have an awesome week. Hope you'll

483
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.280
have a blessed the week. Be
kin to one another, stabs and my

484
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.639
friends at peace. Okay, So
I'm a bit I missed it. I'll

485
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.440
have to go back in. So
I discord chat what tweet went viral.

486
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.960
I went through your social media feed
a little bit as you were As you

487
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:42.440
were talking, I was listening.
I'm trying to scroll. Um, you

488
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.079
tweet a lot, so you have
thirty thousand tweets my friend. Uh And

489
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.280
you know, first of all,
good for you. I wish I actually

490
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.440
could do that. I wish I
had the time to do that and be

491
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.000
more interactive. So it's a it's
not a criticism at all. In fact,

492
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.320
it's a bit of a jealousy because
I don't have time to do that.

493
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.400
But my point is you have to
send me tweet win viral on the

494
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.679
bump. That's awesome. Number one, it is very difficult to go viral.

495
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.199
Sometimes things just happen, right,
let me know. That's awesome.

496
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:13.440
Number one, Number two, Yeah, the Creed Brothers and Songa and the

497
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.280
Moner Day Maha Raja and of course
we Maaha himself. Yeah, things are

498
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.679
radio silence, my friend. I
haven't heard anything either. I did a

499
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:27.039
little bit of kind of cursory research. I didn't see much. Again,

500
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.320
I'm not concerned that they're being released
or anything, but my hunches that they

501
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.599
are just being ready. They're being
ready for the draft. I would imagine

502
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.000
that, even if they're not announced
on TV, that they are placed on

503
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.480
one of the shows as a tag
team in the draft. So I think

504
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.840
we should look forward to that.
All right, thank you DJ. Let's

505
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.559
get to our next voicemail. Hey
Matt, it's Brad in New York.

506
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:58.079
I you know, after watching the
last few weeks, just every Raun SmackDown

507
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:04.639
end with pretty much some iteration and
of Solo Sakoa versus Samy Zane Matt Riddle

508
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:09.880
or what's imna call it, Kevin
Owens, Like I just feel like it's

509
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.239
kind of like always like a repeat
of that match, either opening or closing

510
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:19.119
Raw and SmackDown. Every single week. I just it's just kind of thinking

511
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:23.719
about it, like I'd love to
see like a more creative kind of booking

512
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.880
process where like, you know,
maybe you have like a Solo Sakoa just

513
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.599
kind of run into you know,
Gunter backstage, and you know, Roman

514
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.239
kind of orders like now we have
to get all the belts back, like

515
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:43.599
you're getting that Intercontinental championship or have
you know, Juso go after Theory for

516
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.960
the US title or whatever. Like
I'd love to just see some creativity,

517
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.039
like some weird things happen that are
almost like mashups that you wouldn't expect in

518
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.719
terms of matches, and I feel
like you just kind of get like fude

519
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.039
match, fude match, fuge match. I'd like to see some randomness,

520
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:06.000
like even like you know, going
as far as you know, Solo Sakoa

521
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.559
is ordered to go bring back the
NXT Championship for Roman, almost like Roman

522
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:19.039
is this tribal leader who is ordering
his men to go and get every championship

523
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.159
possible and bring it back to him
for his stable. You know, I

524
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.559
don't know, I just would like
to see some sort of um, you

525
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.079
know, mash up of matchups.
But regardless of that I'm really looking forward

526
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:36.239
to hopefully some NST call up.
Specifically, I'm really hoping Grayson Waller gets

527
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:42.079
called up. I'm hoping people like
pretty Deadly round Breaker, Cora Jade even

528
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:49.880
I'd love to see some life breathe
into the women's division with with NXT call

529
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.480
up. Zoe Stark is one that
comes to mind. I know you're not

530
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.880
a big NXT guy, but I
feel like those type of names would really

531
00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:00.480
widen things up. And I'm hoping
for a really great situation with the draft

532
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.960
because there's a lot of good people
in NXT who can bring a lot to

533
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.639
the main roster. And like La
Knight did, and even like Solosokoa did,

534
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:14.079
I mean we forget you know,
Solsko is an NXT in September,

535
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.880
So you know, I always enjoy
listening to you, man, And yeah,

536
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.559
thanks for having me on. Good
to hear you, brat. It's

537
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.719
been a while, but I've been
a hot minute, as the kids say,

538
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:30.639
And so what you are witnessing,
my friend, is something called a

539
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:40.519
holding pattern with the whole Solosokoa having
some kind of match with Riddle or you

540
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.000
know, against Sammy or whatever,
like it does feel a bit repetitive.

541
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.639
I agree, and it's always Solo
coming out on top, as it should

542
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.840
be. But I'm with you,
like it's been kind of the same thing

543
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.199
for Raw and SmackDown for some time, which also makes you wonder, you

544
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.800
know, what are they going to
do when they don't have Solosakoa and the

545
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.000
usos on every brand that they just
willingly decide to bring them on, you

546
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.039
know, when they actually have to
adhere the brand rules, assuming they do,

547
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.559
how are they going to manage that? Because the bloodline has been carrying

548
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.400
both brands significantly more SmackDown than Raw. Raw is just you know, they

549
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.840
got more time to fill, So
I think it's something that that's a factor.

550
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:24.280
But certainly you're right in the randomness
thing. Well, that's the narrative

551
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.000
they try to push to us all
the time. That's what they want us

552
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.480
to feel like the product is,
and that's how they want the fens to

553
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.840
perceive the product as anything could happen. Even Vince McMahon himself has said that

554
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.800
except for the fact that it has
felt anything but that, I mean until

555
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.320
Triple H took over, and he's
done a great job, not perfect,

556
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.920
and he does he's made some bone
headed decisions. But anyone in this position,

557
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.840
no matter who you put in,
is not going to be perfect.

558
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:58.239
And that's the feeling that I think
overall needs to be worked on, is

559
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.119
things shouldn't feel so formulaic, right. You shouldn't have somebody come out at

560
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.119
the beginning of Raw and say welcome
to Monday Night Raw, as if they're

561
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.880
you know, you know Howard Finkel
or something like, I don't need to

562
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.119
be welcome to Raw. You're not
an announcer. Get to get to your

563
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.679
programs. Stop being a Raw Raw
cheerloader for the company, you know what

564
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:20.639
I mean. I like things like
that, you know, and always knowing

565
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.079
when they're going to go to commercial, someone gets knocked outside the ring and

566
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:28.079
then the baby faces down and Corey
Graves says and so and so can they

567
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.000
get back in this right? And
that's how they go to commercial. And

568
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.400
you're right, like it's been the
same same players in the same room for

569
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.840
a while with solo. But I
think the drafts is going to change things.

570
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:42.039
It has to. It has to. But and you know what,

571
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.800
some of the call ups you mentioned. While I don't follow NXT very closely,

572
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.400
which is why we have a separate
NXT host Memphis Mark does a great

573
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.639
job. I'd recommend you guys go
listen to them. I think that while

574
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:58.760
I don't know the product as intimately
as most NX fans do, I still

575
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:00.760
know who the people are and I've
seen some of the work and I can't

576
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.239
disagree with you. And I think
the fans that don't watch NXT, that

577
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.920
are maybe kind of very casual viewers
like myself of NXT, are going to

578
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:13.719
get to know these people quickly.
But you also can't leave NXT a barren

579
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.159
wasteland, right, It's always that
fine line of well, yeah, of

580
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.000
course NXT is built for it's their
own in house farm system, but you

581
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.800
can't leave it a barren wasteland with
nobody there and take all their stars.

582
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.440
So it's this constant cycle of building
new stars and NXT, but not totally

583
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.760
taking everybody out, even though everyone
may be ready to come up. You

584
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.119
got to be very selective and like
it's a it's a balancing act that I

585
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:43.400
don't envy at all. So all
right, thanks brab and all right,

586
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.519
yeah that means next voicemail, here
we go. It's Kindles Baltimore. So

587
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:50.119
I wanted to talk about this,
but the World Heavingly Championship that will be

588
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:58.239
announced for on RAW last night.
I like it and I kind of I

589
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.840
see it pros of cars. That's
always don't know why people are playing about

590
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.880
it. In other ways, I
can see why people are playing about it

591
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.000
because Rains has still has both championships. They didn't necessarily made one championship four

592
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.599
rum and Raising still coming out with
two championships belts. So some respect,

593
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.280
I can understand on people are upset
a belt bet. But in my own

594
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:22.519
opinion, I'm probably glad to have
this championship belt and I think Roland should

595
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:29.000
win it. So I don't know
when you think about the belt itself and

596
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.760
do you think is there's the pros
and cons of them create a third championship

597
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:38.119
belt today? Just done this before
or after Rains lost? Or what do

598
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:42.239
you think? Because I thought,
I think personally I like it and I'll

599
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:52.480
make wild more interesting. So and
that's just that they still across by Hey,

600
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.480
Kyle, So if you've already listened
up to this point, you've heard

601
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.800
what I've had to say about the
belt. I think the look of it

602
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.119
is, it's fine, It's growing
on me. I think the big logo

603
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.519
in the middle will just eventually,
you know, not be a problem for

604
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.280
us. And it's about what the
belt means, which is more important than

605
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:14.639
how it looks. But yeah,
I mean, the thing is with the

606
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:21.800
World Heavyweight Championship. I think the
overall case of bringing it back is stronger

607
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:27.719
than the case of not because it
tells you that they're gonna, number one,

608
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.599
probably keep the belt on Roman longer
than even we realize. I don't

609
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:37.280
think Roman is done because if they
were going to drop the belt, Say

610
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.840
if Roman was going to drop the
belt in Saudi Arabia or sometime over the

611
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.800
summer, you would say, well, the fans have gone this long without

612
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:51.719
a you know, without two championships
since WrestleMania thirty eight. What the hecks

613
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.320
another couple of months, right,
But that tells me that they're bringing it

614
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:59.960
back, which means they know that
Roman's keeping it longer. Probably it'll rest

615
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.639
Romania forty and that means that the
fans are just going to absolutely, you

616
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:09.960
know, implode if they don't have
a World Championship on raw. Romans schedule

617
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.000
is not going to change. It's
going to be willie nilly here, and

618
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:19.599
they're defending the belt every couple of
months and being on every three smackdowns presumably

619
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:24.320
stays on SmackDown. So all of
that put together, it just it satisfies

620
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:29.000
the concern and the complaints. And
also I think it's better from a rowlback

621
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:34.519
stage with the guys. I mean, because how many times have the men

622
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.119
of rab and shafted of not being
able to have a main event spot because

623
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:44.400
they know that Roman on SmackDown is
going to work with whoever's on SmackDown.

624
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:51.800
So it gives the other brand a
top belt to compete for and to work

625
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.719
towards. And I think they ran
and hit a ceiling. They ran out

626
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.639
of options and hit his ceiling with
the US title on Raw. They did

627
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:06.320
a great job of rebuilding it,
rebranding it, and it was well done.

628
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.000
But you can only go so far
before fans are like, okay,

629
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:13.119
cool, thanks for elevating that.
We were do appreciate it, but um,

630
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.719
yeah, we remember there was another
championship here, Wasn't there one that

631
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.920
actually meant more? Where's that?
You know? And so those are the

632
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.079
things that I, you know,
I think about with this new belt,

633
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:29.079
and an argument against it is,
well, now it devalues the US title.

634
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.199
The US title could go back down, you know, down a peg

635
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:37.320
or two because the because Daddy's home
right, so to speak. So again,

636
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.559
my closing statement is what I started
with, and that is the argument

637
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.199
to bring it, I think is
stronger than the argument to not. So

638
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:52.000
all right, let's get to the
next one. I like the French guy

639
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:59.519
here, your co current European Champion
talking to you from the I don't know,

640
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.400
a small town in the middle of
nowhere in Germany. I am also

641
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:10.239
doing my European tour officially as the
European Champion, artificially for my work.

642
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:17.480
And yeah, I will talk about
the subject. I don't I think everybody

643
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:22.800
will talk about it in this podcast. But first New York Kyle, I

644
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.119
didn't forget you. We will have
a match. But right now, as

645
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:35.119
I'm having my tour, I cannot
be at everyone everywhere every time at the

646
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.559
same time. There's only one French
guy, you know, and I know

647
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:43.079
the subject that I wanted to talk
about like everyone else I think on the

648
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:52.079
podcast today is the new World heavyweight
Champion. I want to thank you Football

649
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:58.639
h for saving WWE, for saving
ratings, for being a good creative,

650
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.679
for taking the right decisions. So
many superstars were on the go. South

651
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.599
Rawleans wanted to go, Drew McIntyre
wanted to go. Rising star, not

652
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:13.760
seeing future, they wanted to go. New championship is the solution. Now,

653
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:21.119
Roman Range can keep the championship until
seventeen seventeen, you can. You

654
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.760
can pretty much take the championship for
ten years. We don't care. We

655
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.639
have another championship. There's so many
old stories for Roman the Rins to tell,

656
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.920
so many stories for other champion,
world champion to tell. Ed will

657
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.760
be. When I saw the news, I was thrilled for the first time

658
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:44.519
in months. I was genuinely happy
for the situation. So thank you Triple

659
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:50.880
H and for the new World heavyweight
Champion. My odds as everyone is South

660
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:59.840
Rawleans, Drew McIntyre, maybe edge, but definitely someone who legitimized the title

661
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.639
to be what it is, you
know, because it's the superstar that makes

662
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:10.119
the titles. And yeah, or
even maybe some new rising star dominant force.

663
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.719
Gunter why not? Why not Gunter? But not yet? Gun will

664
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:21.320
help this championship. That's that's a
fact too. Tell me what you think,

665
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:27.960
Matt and see you next week.
Everybody, all right, Well,

666
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:34.519
Alex welcome back to the show.
Look, I don't think there's really many

667
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:39.079
options here. The way that Triple
H laid out what this championship is going

668
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:44.639
to mean and hinting at the type
of champion you're gonna have, it has

669
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.480
to be a baby face. So
Gunther's out, any heel is out.

670
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:51.239
I know I kind of scared people
with saying it could be Roman Reigns.

671
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.239
I'm only saying I would do that
if I ran the company to see what

672
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.000
people would do. But they're not
going to do that. They can't do

673
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.159
that. Just the cynical part of
me wants to see it. It's got

674
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.480
to be a baby face the way
Triple H was talking about it, and

675
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.199
I know Edge fits the baby face
mold, but the fact is he's a

676
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.320
part timer. You would have a
part timing baby face champion. You can't

677
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.239
have that. This person needs to
be an established, weekly baby face,

678
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.920
big time baby face. Seth Rollins
fits it, Cody fits it, Drew

679
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:25.320
fits it, that's it. Bobby
Lashley kind of fits it. You know,

680
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:28.719
he's not as big of a baby
face, and the fans don't have

681
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.320
as strong a connection with him as
they do with Drew and Cody and Seth.

682
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.239
Those are your three options, and
I'm saying it's got to be one

683
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.280
of those three. It has to
be. So. I would imagine in

684
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:44.519
Saudi Arabia Nighted champions maybe it's a
triple threat. Maybe it's Drew versus Cody

685
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:49.639
versus Seth. I think that'd be
awesome, unless they do a tournament style

686
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.000
in which it's going to be one
on one and if it comes down to

687
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.880
Cody and Seth, hey, then
they get to wrap up their program two

688
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.599
because there's unfinished business there. Not
that I want Seth to turn back to

689
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.719
a heel at all, nor do
I want him to take ye out another

690
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.800
loss to Cody Rhodes. Or maybe
they save that and Seth goes to SmackDown.

691
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.880
There's ways to do this. My
suggestion is that Rollins goes to SmackDown,

692
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:19.239
but only if only if he is
planned to defeat Roman reigns for the

693
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.320
championship. Maybe at SummerSlam that's it. Otherwise, if you're gonna bring Seth

694
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:29.360
to SmackDown only to have him be
yet another notch on Seth or Roman reigns

695
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:34.360
his belt, no stay away is
good of a program as it would be.

696
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.360
I don't need Seth to lose yet
another big match on another big stage

697
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:44.039
multiple times. Seth is ready for
the big time. So I mean,

698
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.760
he's always been ready for the big
time, but I'm saying ready for a

699
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:52.519
championship run in a big moment.
It's been a it's been criminally long since

700
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.360
Seth has held a singles championship of
that ILK. Yeah, he was US

701
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:01.400
title for like a flash, right, but I'm talking about World Heavyweight championship

702
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.960
status. It's time for Seth.
If you're gonna bring him to SmackDown and

703
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.360
have Cody be the champion on Raw
or Drew be the champion on Raw,

704
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:13.840
then you better have big plans for
Seth. And I'm not talking about well

705
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.480
he'll be in a world He'll be
in a program with Roland. Oh no,

706
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.760
he needs to win it. Don't
bring him over to just have a

707
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:25.320
program, right, all right,
Thanks guys, let's uh, well,

708
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:29.000
thank you, Alex. Let's get
to the next one. I don't know

709
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.920
how many more, one or two
more, Let's see what happens. Thank

710
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:37.760
yo, it's me, It's me. It's Rocky One upw podcast. You're

711
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:42.800
kind of call in with a little
vmaul this week. Help. Everybody's doing

712
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.960
great. Hopefully are not having a
good day but having a great day.

713
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.320
Um, I just got done listening
to Current State with you, Matt and

714
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:58.559
Anthony Dum Just to the point seeing
Punk pastery returning at some point, because

715
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.880
we know all super ours eventually get
over their beef and do a return.

716
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.360
When he does return, and I
believe he will, I believe it'll be

717
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:12.199
on a legends contract. He's definitely
deserving of a Hall of Fame spot,

718
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.880
maybe sooner than later. But two, I think it was Anthony's point,

719
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:23.679
he would be a great foil,
a great legend or legacy win for Austin

720
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:30.280
theory and speaking to Austin theory as
being US champ. That is the only

721
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.639
title that Sam Punk has not won
in his time in w W. He

722
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.199
is a triple crown winner. He's
the company's nineteenth triple Crown Champion, and

723
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:45.519
he is a fast fastest wrestler to
do such that in two hundred and three

724
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:50.639
days. So if he came back, he should definitely not be in any

725
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:55.960
title matches. If he comes back, he is definitely in the gives backstage

726
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:01.000
of his career like a John Cena. So if here to come back and

727
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:06.519
Austin still be the champion. Yeah, I wouldn't mind them putting that mid

728
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.480
card title on him so he can
become a grand Clam champ, making you

729
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.360
know, adding to his legacy.
But other than that, bring him back,

730
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.480
have him, give back, have
himself some merch make him and the

731
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.159
company some money, which is something
he likes to do, and you know,

732
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.400
blew them out. So it could
be a one year contract kind of

733
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:30.360
how kind of how like the Dougie
Boys did when they return with their legis

734
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:34.760
contract, make a big return,
Dick top, So some merch put the

735
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.159
younger time and over and then move
on. So those are my thoughts on

736
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:42.800
CM punk And that's it for now, guys, and don't forget to check

737
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:50.519
out for some Magic episode two,
fit review two BLD and everybody's statements by

738
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:54.840
guys. All right, yeah,
I definitely check out Russell Magic episode two.

739
00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:00.239
Guys, we put it out last
week. Well done. And okay,

740
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:06.400
Rocky, I hear you, I
hear you about Sampunkin And I did

741
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:15.199
have the conversation with Anthony two nights
ago Lose the Track and cmpunk returning,

742
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.679
Do I think it'll it'll happen?
Yeah, because as you said, everyone

743
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.199
seems to come back, no matter
how bad the beef seems to be,

744
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:24.679
no matter how much the drama seem
to have overtaken them or whatever, everyone

745
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:29.239
seems to find their way back.
Usually it's the case, and with sampunkin

746
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:30.320
I don't think it'll be any different. But I agree, yeah, Legends

747
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:35.119
contract for sure, not even not
even a semi regular like Legends contract.

748
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:38.559
I agree. But do I think
he should beat Austin theory. I mean,

749
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.360
I don't think sampunk is gonna want
to come back just to lose.

750
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.480
He does have an ego about himself, and I don't think the fans would

751
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.360
want that. Now, the fans
out, I don't know if they'd even

752
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:51.760
want to see or if they would
accept this and just be like, hey,

753
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.159
you're bringing back cmpunk after ten years, and you're gonna just put him

754
00:54:55.159 --> 00:55:00.000
in a kind of a mid upper
card spot with Austin theory, why is

755
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.719
he not in a top spot?
And again, the reason I would give

756
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.239
to somebody like that is maybe you
will, is that he's even if you

757
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:12.320
put him in a championship match,
he's not gonna win. He's not in

758
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:17.119
that place anymore. His age is
well passed what a champion should be that

759
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:21.280
at this point in the game,
and there's no point to having him in

760
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.840
a championship match, you know,
and non titles, sure, but I

761
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.199
don't know. So I'm with you
on the Austin Theory thing. The only

762
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:31.239
damage you would do is, well
he loses, Austin Theory loses, and

763
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:35.639
then Sampunk has a short run,
goes away, and then Austin Theories left

764
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.079
with egg on his face. I
mean Austin Theory. I actually think even

765
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:43.639
though he beat John Cenn at WrestleMania, lost in the victory, if that

766
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.719
makes sense, And I made this
point, but the more I think about

767
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:51.000
it, I think it was on
Raw or my weekend review when Austin Theory

768
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.760
beat John Cena at Mania. The
way he needed to beat him was clean.

769
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.400
There's I mean, John Cena is
beyond a made man. There is

770
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.440
absolutely nothing you can do to him
that would damage his career. At this

771
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.760
point, how people view him,
his legacy, it's all set in cast

772
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:12.800
iron, right, and having John
Cena lose clean to Austin Theory, I

773
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.119
think would have given more credibility to
Austin Theory and more bragging rights. How

774
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:22.400
many I mean low blows are not
for WrestleMania or for helping build new stars.

775
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:27.199
Okay, you can have Heels win
clean, you know, and I

776
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.079
don't know who they were trying to
protect. Why Why are we protecting John

777
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:34.920
Cena again? If that's the argument, why mister Hollywood Now he came for

778
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:40.880
one promo and in came Romania and
then was gone. I mean, I

779
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.239
think that did more damage to Austin
Theory than help. So if if we're

780
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:50.000
gonna have CM Punk now come in
and cut a couple of promos with Austin

781
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:54.400
Theory and he beats theory and takes
his belt, well what does that do

782
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.400
to Austin theory Again? If the
idea is to help build new stars,

783
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.199
well you're not exactly helping here,
you know what I mean? Having Punk

784
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.639
Okay, you oh he worked with
Sam Punk, but Leavey but he lost

785
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:10.239
and he lost his title, you
know. So I get it. I

786
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.320
understand, and I know why people
are just going pointing to Austin theory.

787
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:15.920
But the name of the game should
always be to help build new stars.

788
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:19.880
And I don't know, is giving
back really taking the championship away from a

789
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.119
guy you're trying to build. Is
that a givebackstage? You know? I

790
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:27.639
don't know, so I get it
though. All right, final voicemail,

791
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:32.239
Let's do it in three two one. Hey Matt, this is Randy from

792
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:37.800
LA I have a question. So
what do you want to talk about?

793
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:46.119
Just kidding, I want to talk
about the World Heavyweight Championship tournament scenarios for

794
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:52.480
this upcoming tournament. I know you
mentioned Cody is the favorite, but I

795
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:58.159
feel Cody winning would be the worst
case scenario for Cody. I feel like

796
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:02.079
it's the last to be the last
option for him. I feel like he

797
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:08.039
needs to go on to SmackDown and
finish his story with Rains. I feel

798
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:13.519
like that's the only way for the
story to finish is to beat Roman and

799
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:19.159
capture the WWE belt. Winning a
belt that didn't exist or was retired however

800
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.599
you want to look at this new
championship would make this title look like a

801
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:28.559
consolation prize without taking it from Roman. As a matter of fact, anyone

802
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:36.039
that Roman has beat during the thousand
Days streak and my opinion, shouldn't get

803
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:39.840
to be a part of this tournament. I feel like they need to go

804
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:46.119
to smack Down and and if they
are credible title continers they should have to

805
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:51.199
take the belt from Roman. Winning
this tournament would look like, oh,

806
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:55.360
you couldn't beat Roman, so the
company just created you your own championship.

807
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:00.920
It would just make the new championship
look weak. Um. It would also

808
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:07.840
make the brands look very uneven,
um, just so uneven. You guys,

809
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.559
are you remember back when BIGI was
champion on one brand and Roman was

810
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:16.480
on the other, and one champion
took Mighty Incredible and the other one just

811
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:21.199
looked like Biggie But in anyway,
So I want to leave that alone with

812
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.360
this logic that I'm thrown out there, though, I think whoever wins this

813
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:28.559
title should be someone that hasn't lost
to Roman, And in my opinion,

814
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:32.519
this is the best way to make
this championship look on par with Roman's championship.

815
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:37.280
With these with these ideas, this
logic leads me to Gunther as a

816
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:43.360
new champion. He hasn't face Roman, and he gives off that just that

817
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.440
whole face of the company vibe.
Plus, this is a way to get

818
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:52.840
the Intercontinental title off Gunther without him
actually losing. It keeps his winstry going,

819
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:57.840
and it would make him look so
dominant and obviously he already looks incredible.

820
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.599
Also, why are we supposed I'll
seeking loves? Why are we why

821
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:04.800
do we like? Why are we
supposed to hate Gunther? All he does,

822
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.800
all he's done, or he all
he wants to do is restore the

823
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:15.079
purity and credibility, credibility of wrestling
South Sketchy that we should be cheering Gunther

824
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:19.679
wouldn't feel like an inferior champion the
Roman, and you can tease a Roman

825
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:25.119
versus Gunther match all the way to
WrestleMania. There's also set and possibly maybe

826
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:30.280
solo. They can have bloodline dominique
brands. Anyways, want to see you're

827
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:36.239
you're the first victim of the three
minutes cut off Randy from LA and you

828
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.800
nearly got banned. Anyway, you
know what that's I guess that's poetic justice.

829
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.360
That's karma right there. See,
you wouldn't have got cut off if

830
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.639
you didn't start the voicemail with what
do you want to talk about? So

831
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:52.599
I guess the karma did come back
instantaneously. So anyway, Randy, Okay.

832
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.599
The World Highweight title absolutely seems to
be the focal point of Tonight's conversation,

833
01:00:55.679 --> 01:01:00.719
and rightfully so. But here's the
thing, and I know what you're

834
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.880
saying that if Cody goes to SmackDown, he's going to try he should finish

835
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.920
the story with Roman, and arguably, right now as it stands, the

836
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:15.079
belt that well, two physical belts, one championship that Roman holds has more

837
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:21.599
value than the world who had championship, right, But this isn't a championship

838
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.239
that they just created it out of
nowhere like they did with the Universal to

839
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:30.320
balance out the brands having a champion
on each brand. This championship has a

840
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.400
lot of lineage. I mean,
just for some context here, this championship

841
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:37.400
all we haven't seen it in a
while, has had title holders like Triple

842
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:39.519
H, Shawn Michaels, Goldberg,
Chris Benoi, Randy Orton just to name

843
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:45.159
a few, you know, mainly
Triple H, Batista, Current Angle,

844
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:52.400
Ray Masterio King, Booker, Undertaker
Edge. Okay, there have been a

845
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.920
who's who, nearly of who has
held this belt. Now that was back

846
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.679
in you know, two thousand and
two to two and eight or so,

847
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:06.679
I get it. It seems like
an eternity ago. But it's fair to

848
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:08.840
mention that this belt has a lot
of lineage, heritage, and value that

849
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:14.800
needs to just be re educated to
today's fan. You know, this is

850
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.199
this is not just the championship.
While it looks a little different with the

851
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:21.360
big logo stuck in the middle and
the belt is a little smaller, it

852
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.760
doesn't and it is not a belt
that they just fabricated out of whole cloth.

853
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:29.039
Okay, so there is that,
and it wouldn't be just a championship

854
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.360
that just is again just created.
But I understand what you're saying. He

855
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:36.119
chased Roman and it would look like, well, Cody couldn't beat Roman,

856
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:38.079
so he has to you know,
compete for this. Well, it's also

857
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:43.119
not of Cody's doing of where he
gets drafted, right, Cody can't.

858
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:47.760
Cody can't control that. So if
Cody has to stand raw and is drafted

859
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:52.840
to raw and Roman is drafted to
SmackDown, well what's he gonna do?

860
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:57.119
I mean, the argument is,
well, I can't go to SmackDown.

861
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.519
I can't. You know, as
much as I'd love to to finish my

862
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.880
story and beat Roman Reigns, I
can't. So I'm just gonna do what

863
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:08.119
I have to do here and become
world champion here. You know, so

864
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:14.079
I think Cody wouldn't be hurt by
that. But I also understand why people

865
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:16.159
would want to have him win on
a bigger stage, on a bigger with

866
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:20.679
a bigger quote unquote bigger championship,
even though the World Heavyweight Championship. Even

867
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:22.599
if they just did a couple of
video packages I think would really help.

868
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:28.360
But we're not even talking about like
Biggie. What about big Ee returning.

869
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.280
Maybe he's a big surprise entrit and
he wins. What about Randy Orton?

870
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.559
I don't think Randy Orton would because
he's a legacy star, he's injury prone.

871
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:42.480
At this point, I actually think
he's going to join Riddle to take

872
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:45.039
on the USOS at some point where
Kevin and Sammy move on to their next

873
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:52.159
opponents, whoever those may be.
So this is an interesting timing to be,

874
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:55.559
no doubt about it. But yeah, I'm with you. The thing

875
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:00.119
was with Gunther. While I want
him as a world champion and World heavyweight

876
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:01.760
champion would be a lot of fun, there's just a couple problems with that

877
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.719
one of him. As I mentioned
earlier, this is Taylor made for a

878
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:09.199
baby face champion right now and for
a significant period of time, six to

879
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:12.639
eight months, maybe to Russellmania forty
and have the baby face drop it there

880
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.360
or something. It's tailor made.
You cannot have Roman reigns as a heel

881
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:19.480
champion on Raw or rather unsmackdown holding
it for nearly three years. People are

882
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.719
like, oh my god. And
then Gunther, who is build as a

883
01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:26.920
heel and he wins it on raw, like, you can't do that.

884
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.559
It's you know, it'll defeat the
purpose of bringing a championship to Raw,

885
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.559
at least in the short term.
But also Gunther's his story's not done with

886
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:41.159
the ICY title yet not done.
I think he's got more tread left on

887
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.480
that tire and a more story to
be told with him as IC champion.

888
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:46.880
He's done an amazing job as Icy
Champion. I see no reason to stop

889
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.599
it right now. If you want
to get the belt off him to put

890
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:55.079
him in the world title picture,
you do that at a point when it's

891
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:58.960
a bigger stage for Gunther. If
you're planning on having him win the World

892
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:04.199
Heavyweight Championship after he drops the IC
and that is on a bigger stage SummerSlam

893
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:08.280
at the earliest, I would I
would argue WrestleMania forty it would be a

894
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.679
nice crowning moment for him. You
know, I mean, it's crazy where

895
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:15.159
I'm talking about WrestleMania forty, isn't
it. But yeah, So anyway,

896
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.360
those are my points. I could
go on and on, but don't forget

897
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:23.360
about Randy Orton floating out there and
Big E floating out there. You know,

898
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:27.719
at some point they will return from
the ether. So thanks Randy,

899
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:30.320
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