WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.879 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female home builder with a 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:08.160 passion for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:11.720 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family 4 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:14.199 on a date with me. That's a good note. It's goddymn weird. 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:19.160 See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company in the country. 6 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:23.879 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it 7 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:28.359 just doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of 8 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:33.039 construction, real estate, development, design and more. You're unpredictable. Every 9 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.359 time I think I know what you want, you switch it out. But 10 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:39.159 that's what makes your houses all your day. Discuss anything that happens between the 11 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:43.039 roof and the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about 12 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:45.359 everybody. She can yell at, you can scream, but when you get 13 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:49.479 her alone, she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough 14 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:57.840 as nails. Okay, welcome to Sidney Stuffle Tough as Nails on WBC News 15 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:03.439 Radio ten thirty and I'm here with Samantha who is in the studio besides my 16 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:07.760 daughter Samantha that keeps talking. Go ahead, I'm Holly dan Yeah, Hi, 17 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:14.439 I'm Holly Daniels Christiansen, and I'm so happy to be here. Thanks 18 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.799 for having me. I love having you here. Okay, the topic tonight 19 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.640 is what we're going to talk about, entrepreneurship. I have a couple of 20 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:29.359 businesses we can talk about and just how the road to entrepreneurship and business business 21 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:33.840 ownership. Okay, what is my pronounces right, Dune Jewelry. Doune Jewelry. 22 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:38.560 What is that? It is a jewelry business. I started fourteen years 23 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:44.760 ago at my kitchen table using sand and earth elements from Cape Cod where I 24 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:49.599 grew up. So I was creating jewelry. I was working in real estate 25 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:55.680 at the time, which I'm not even sure anyone told you, and I 26 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.519 was doing it as a side hustle, a hobby, just making jewelry for 27 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:04.000 friends and family, and people started bringing me back sand from like Bermuda and 28 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:07.719 Iceland and the Caribbean and Saint Martin and Italy and saying, hey, can 29 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.000 you make something with this. I just got back. It was the most 30 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.759 incredible trip of my life. I'll want to hold on to it. I 31 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:16.800 was like, of course I can, and so I just started honing in 32 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:22.919 on that skill, and fourteen years later we shipped to six hundred locations worldwide. 33 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:28.120 We have over fifty five hundred sands in earth elements that we inlay into 34 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:31.879 our jewelry to capture people's memories. Really, yeah, so how do you 35 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:36.479 do this? How does they bring you home sand? Can you put in 36 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.120 something and they can wear it in their jewelry? Yeah? Everything I have 37 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:43.280 on pretty much has sand in it. Let me say, I'm sorry listeners 38 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.599 that you can't see. Yeah, so I'm going to pass you over. 39 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:51.599 This is Chinquitare Italy in the middle and set into fourteen carret gold with malachite 40 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:59.120 on the sides. And essentially, I mean the idea is that we're able 41 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:04.719 to give people a tangible reminder and in the middle. Yeah, crazy, 42 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:09.159 it's beautiful. Thank you, very pretty, thank you. Okay, so 43 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.120 that's where we are right now. We started in real estate. Your side 44 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:17.360 hustle was this jewelry. Now this jewelry became one of year bigger and the 45 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:21.560 side the main job left to the side hustle became I always say that, 46 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.319 don't I say you hear me say that. Make that your side. Hustle 47 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.360 until you're making a good living at it, and then you can move on. 48 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:31.159 Yeah, I remember distinctly, starting in twenty ten. In two thousand 49 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:35.800 and fourteen was the first time I didn't have a real estate commission on my 50 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.879 on my tax returns. You're a broker, yeah, and you got scared. 51 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.800 No, No, I know. My husband was like, why are 52 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:50.360 you doing both? He's like, you have a real shot at this business. 53 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.759 He said, it's not rocket science. You'll figure it out. He 54 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.639 said, be done with the real estate. And I loved real estate, 55 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:00.199 so that's where the decision was hard. I had a great, great job, 56 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.479 and so I loved both. But he was right. He was like, 57 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.159 you got to give it your all. Well, thank you to the 58 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.759 husband. Yeah, because she's a leader, right, and she can't make 59 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.719 a decision, so she needed her husband to push it. Amen. Yeah, 60 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:21.600 I hear that. You've had some whatever you want to call your your 61 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:27.240 drama or your trauma or your being of your life. What went on that? 62 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.120 Yeah? I mean I think everyone has a story. Mine just happens 63 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:35.759 to be really colorful. I left home when I was fifteen, dropped out 64 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:41.519 of high school. I my father passed. I let me hold you. 65 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.639 Why would you leave home at fifteen? My mother turned to drugs after my 66 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:49.399 father passed and I was an only child, and the family kind of fell 67 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:55.800 apart after that. You said bye, I said bye. It didn't there 68 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.759 was nothing. It was just made a decision. Then it was all I 69 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:00.240 did make a decision. Then, yeah, that goes to show you I 70 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.360 do have cancer rising So oh there you go. Okay, she's partling me. 71 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:09.720 Yeah, I just even at that age, I knew it was toxic. 72 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:14.879 Fifteen goodbye. So things were normal while your dad was alive or whatever 73 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:18.480 normal was. Whatever normal was. He was very sick. So he right 74 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:25.519 after I was born, he went blind and from type one diabetes, and 75 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.079 so it was a struggle. I mean, my mom did her best, 76 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:32.399 but once he passed. They had been together since she was fourteen, he 77 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.199 was eighteen, she was fourteen, and so that was the love of her 78 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:41.480 life, and she turned to drugs and just could never quite so prid of 79 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.759 that. While he was alive, she didn't touch drugs. No, just 80 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:46.199 came out of nowhere, came well, came out of nowhere. We had 81 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.600 a little farm, we had horses, so she had taken a few falls 82 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:56.279 off the horses, and then of course the doctors prescribed their percocet and Brian, 83 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.839 yeah, it's it's unfortunately, it's no different then a lot of people's 84 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.199 story, and it just progressively got worse and worse and worse and worse. 85 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:08.639 And for me, and maybe it's because I was an only child, I 86 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:13.399 didn't feel the need to hold on forever. I mean I held on to 87 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.199 you know, probably my third When you left at fifteen, did she say 88 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.279 don't go or she was like whatever, she was in her own world. 89 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:25.279 She was in her own world. I think it was almost a relief that 90 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:30.800 because I think I was a pretty energetic child or teenager, so it was 91 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.000 probably a little bit of a relief for her to not have to worry about 92 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:43.600 me anymore and just do any grandparents, yes, but also not okay, 93 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.480 whatever them is. So where did you go at fifteen? I was couch 94 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:53.920 surfing friends, friends houses, parents' houses, sorry friends parents' houses up in 95 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:57.600 Maine, and that because we had moved from the Cape to Maine, so 96 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:01.959 of course she could be alone with no one bothering her my mom and then 97 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:08.160 and then I was CouchSurfing and then I came back down to the Cape and 98 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:12.240 I started. I found like a I remember, like a room to rent. 99 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.319 I found a room to rent. Remember I was sixteen to rent? 100 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.920 Yeah, yeah, room to rent. And started working. And I've had 101 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:25.279 probably fifty different jobs throughout my I've done everything. But you're on your own 102 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:30.160 and you're paying yours. Yeah. I never, I mean knock on wood. 103 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:32.600 I never. I always had a roof over my head. I bartended 104 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.160 a waitressed. I learned to hustle early on. So you learned grit and 105 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:43.480 grind by the time you were sixteen years old, for sure. But even 106 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.920 if it was fourteen or fifteen, there was trouble along the way that you. 107 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.000 I always say this, and my saying is, the football gets thrown 108 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:55.160 at you. Either you can do one or two things. Really catch that 109 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:59.920 football and you jump and you run, or you fumble, and that's it. 110 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.519 And that's how life is. Right. At some point's going to throw 111 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.399 that football at you, and you better go, yeah, because the other 112 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.600 way is fumble and your dumble and your triple and you fell over your feet. 113 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:13.439 Now maybe you get back up. Me that was me at twenty six, 114 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.439 grab the football, win and never looked back. Right, So it's 115 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.879 always a situation that makes that football come at you. You picked it up 116 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:28.759 and you were in. Yeah, and through all this trauma and leaving in 117 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:33.519 the house and not having really anywhere to go, no feeling to turn to, 118 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.039 no feeling to turn to. No, my mom did a good job 119 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.039 at making sure the family didn't want anything to do with us. Really, 120 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.559 she she alienated everybody. Yeah, and now do you talk to her or 121 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.399 she passed passed? Yep, she passed about five years ago and we still 122 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:56.759 weren't fully so she never got clean, now, Nope, she did not, 123 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:00.480 but we tried. We tried over and over again. It's a shame 124 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.960 because I have two daughters that you know, have a lot of questions now, 125 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.759 so and we have to be careful with the daughters because genetics play a 126 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.240 major role, as we know absolutely in all of this. Right. We 127 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.960 didn't know this back twenty years ago, but we know it now. But 128 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.960 let's hold that thought we're going to break. I'm Sitney Stumbling listening to Toughest 129 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:20.440 Nails on w b Z News Radio ten thirty sponsored by Floor and Decor, 130 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:39.159 National Lumber, and Village Banks is going to come and happen. I'm at 131 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:45.320 and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio tenthor and I'm city stumping. 132 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.000 I'm here with Samantha and Holly. Okay, go ahead on it. 133 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:52.080 Pick it up from where you were. So I was, I was just 134 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:58.639 saying that I think that adversity in childhood does kind of breed entrepreneurs. I 135 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.720 think that I remember distinct Put you back from minute. Yeah, I'm gonna 136 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:07.679 take you back in time. How'd you meet your husband? Blinded? And 137 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.600 it words yeah okay, and he knew about your past and you broke that 138 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:15.320 out to him pretty fast on and you said, I'm gonna hide this and 139 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.320 let it go with No, I have to be transparent. What's the point. 140 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.600 We both were raised by single moms for the most part. So his 141 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.000 single mom wasn't doing drugs no, no, nor was she even having a 142 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:31.559 cocktail no. Okay. Yeah, and then you guys got married and now 143 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.960 you have how many children? Two? Two children? How old you are? 144 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.679 The girls? Boys ten and twelve? Of their girls they grow so 145 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:39.720 the baby they yeah, they're amazing. Do they help you at all. 146 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:45.440 Yeah, they do, they do. They're I mean, they're no, 147 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.639 but they like to come in and like venture with the jewelry or yes when 148 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.080 I allow them. Yeah, yeah, it can be chaotic. I've had 149 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.960 her on construction site since she can, since she's been on my hip, 150 00:10:54.639 --> 00:11:01.360 little hard hat everything. I love that everything. So you have the two 151 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.440 kids, you have a husband, good life, right yeah, but you 152 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:07.559 made that good life for you for sure. No one's done that for you, 153 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.720 so I know me. I hate when people say to me, oh, 154 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:16.639 Cyny, you got lucky, okay city, there's a million reasons now 155 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:22.080 right why I'm successful, right yeah? And I just laughed, like yeah, 156 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.320 if I knew that, I would have just stood on a job set 157 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.320 and let them let the let the money flow on me. Right. Absolutely, 158 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.039 No one understands the grit and grind that goes into building a company. 159 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.600 I do not use the word entrepreneur. I've never used that. I never 160 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:41.279 call myself that's not just I just have to call myself a businesswoman. I 161 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:45.399 set out to build a great business and that's what I did. So, 162 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:50.519 like you never hear me use words like mindset and entrepreneur because life balance. 163 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.960 No, they're just words to me, right, they have no meaning. 164 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.639 But that's okay. For other people it works great, right, and they're 165 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:58.840 good words for them. But I'll say, oh, so you're an entrepreneur, 166 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.080 does that mean well I walk dogs for a living? Oh okay, 167 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:09.159 let me know when you get to like you literally own a company that you 168 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:13.840 have about fifty employees working for you and you're walking about three thousand dogs, 169 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:18.039 like I just that's fair. I believe that. I believe in so like, 170 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:20.759 just throw that out there like that, right, that's just me. 171 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:26.159 Everybody's different. So now you take your side hustle and you make it your 172 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:30.679 main focus. But then you said you have other businesses too, I do 173 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.960 now, I mean Dune has been my number one priority. Forced to feed 174 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:41.039 the other companies exactly exactly, So I have Dune. I have a little 175 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:48.240 gift boutique called The Cove in Norwood, and we just launched a yeah, 176 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:54.000 nine thirty five Washington, and we just launched a sub brand called Mitezorro, 177 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.799 which is a secondary jewelry line. So just a little something new to try 178 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.799 out. As I've learned so much over the past fourteen years. And what's 179 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.679 your goals here? My goal I want to ask you how old you because 180 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.159 some people get like upset about that one. Yeah, women, why I 181 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:15.759 mean? My goal is to build an incredible business that captures people's memories, 182 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:20.840 makes people happy that I can hopefully leave to my daughters so that they have 183 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.960 something that they love doing. Hopefully they love doing. Were you manufacturing all 184 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:30.399 Australia, Norwood, Massachusetts? So do you have like factory space that you 185 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.679 use? Yeah? So I just I bought my first commercial building. Okay, 186 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.879 yeah, thank you, And we have the cove boutique in front, 187 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:45.200 and then we have the manufacturing and back. We don't do the metal casting. 188 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:48.279 We do buy our castings all over the world, Rhode Island, India, 189 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.720 China, everywhere, but the actual sand inlay and the artistry is done 190 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:56.720 right there in Norwood. That's where the whole studio is. And how much 191 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.159 you if you don't mind me asking? Your sales keep growing you? Yeah? 192 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:07.559 Last year we hit five million in revenue, which is and so we've 193 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:11.559 organically been growing year over year over year. We're bootstrap. I never wanted 194 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.600 to take on an investor. I never wanted any of that because I didn't 195 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.200 know. Again, without a formal education, I did not have enough trust 196 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.720 in myself In the beginning. I didn't think I'd be able to pay anyone 197 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.600 back. I didn't know what I was doing. Now, in hindsight, 198 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:31.039 it cool. She didn't have a high school education or a college education. 199 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.639 That your brain could only take you so far in this business. I was 200 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.960 insecure for the first six years of my business. Yeah, I would say 201 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.399 it took me six or seven years to get my footing. You know. 202 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.679 It's it's funny because let me tell you something. Yeah, we all are, 203 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:50.600 and we all were. Yeah. No one comes out of the gate 204 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.559 going, yeah, I'm so confident. Yeah, I'm sure. No, 205 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.679 no one does. Neybody tells you that's a liar, say to their face, 206 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:00.480 of course, you're learning as you're going along. What do you think 207 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.720 I knew at twenty three, But I know now. No, it took 208 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.399 me five, six seven years to get out there and be confident and comfortable. 209 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.480 And anybody that says anything different, I won't believe you. I'll end 210 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.000 the conversation right then and there. Yeah, oh I knew what I was 211 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.919 doing them, and I know you did. But there are people out there 212 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:18.480 like that, trust me. I meet them all the time. But you 213 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:20.759 know what. And I always say, they're full of bologna. And they're 214 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.399 the ones that have the best husband, the best kids, the best this, 215 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.159 the best, that mean mother, the most miserable people. Okay, 216 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.440 and they qulinn tell the truth that they tried. So I just kind of 217 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.799 laugh at that. I'm so happy anybody tells me they're so happy, they're 218 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.720 not happy. Yeah, how's that. Everybody's got there? Everyone has there? 219 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.559 Yeah, and we live in this world of Instagram and social media where 220 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:45.559 everyone's glossy, everyone's happy, everyone's so follow my stories. That's not true. 221 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.240 Yeah, it's you're an idiot, you're a moral ye, get your 222 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:52.519 head out of you that Okay, Yeah, I'm sorry. I can't apologize. 223 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.480 No, I live in the real world, am I and my own 224 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.480 hat? I hope I live in the real world. Right, Look all 225 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.879 you have and I always say this, what's the moment most important common that 226 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.360 you have in your life? Time? Family? That's it. You just 227 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.200 said it. Health. I ask people this all the time and they never 228 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.879 can answer it. It's time. Yeah, right, that's your biggest and 229 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.320 most important commondity because at the time you don't have the chance of the opportunity 230 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.080 to be with your family and your children. Right, So you need time, 231 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.720 and you have plenty of time because I'm looking at you, so I 232 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:25.320 don't think you're near my age. Maybe you look really good. I don't 233 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:29.399 know. I haven't day see if I have got Yeah, I got almost 234 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:34.320 eleven year old. Those eleven years a dog years. Those are dog years. 235 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.440 But at forty eight, I was you couldn't start me, unstoppable. 236 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:42.120 Yeah, the yo yo was going like you just couldn't. Yeah. Now 237 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.159 at fifty nine, it's like, okay, I'm ready for you. Aka, 238 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.679 No, it's it's I never go on vacation. I'm constantly working. 239 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.679 I work eighteen days, but all day, every day, seven days a 240 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:53.519 week. I don't care if it's Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 241 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:59.080 Every day's a workday. Yeah. Right, But that's again personality. But 242 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.879 then you get to a point where you go, I am kind of feeling 243 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:04.920 it a little bit, right, so like you will not now you're too 244 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:07.920 young. Now I'm ready. I mean I'm just getting started, and I'm 245 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.759 on the back three of my career. You've been saying that forever. No, 246 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.119 I said I was on the back nine. Then I said, Now 247 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.079 it's back three seven at eighty you'll say I'm on the back two. No, 248 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.240 I'm not talking to be out there yelling at guys. It's seventy years 249 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:25.240 old. That's not going to happen. I'll send you out to do it. 250 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:30.319 But I feel like Sam knows. It's like I said, anybody that 251 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:34.599 I like to meet women in business that talk truth, that say, Cindy, 252 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.000 this is tough, this is hard. This has been a hard struggle. 253 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.839 This has not been easy. Yeah, because that is that's having an 254 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.079 honest conversation with somebody. Anyone who says it's easy is, I mean, 255 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:48.640 it's just and then it's just not no matter not And then you're you're a 256 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.119 mom. Yeah, and then you're trying to do the mom things right. 257 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.079 So go back into my generation, which that ten eleven years makes a difference 258 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.279 when none of the same as friends I had same yet twenty three I get 259 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.079 right of twenty and they didn't work. No, Now that was the bad 260 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.799 moment, I know, trust me. Still, I mean there's still moments 261 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.759 like that, Oh the bad mommy with the next toil running through her cell 262 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:14.759 phone, the next tail and a beepa and then everybody while she's playing softball. 263 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:17.000 Everybody's looking at me like, can you shut the beaber up? Lady? 264 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.839 And I'm like turning your head around. Okay, the beep bis gotta 265 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.119 stay on. I'll put on vibrate. I did this to more mothers on 266 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:27.119 those called like bleachers. Yeah do this, yeah, ninth really, Oh, 267 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.200 I love it because good for you. I'm not married to some CEO 268 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.400 of you know of IBM, and I'm not married to a brain surgeon. 269 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.440 So just turn your head around right now, okay, right, and then 270 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:37.240 no one would screw with me. Ever, it was like, okay, 271 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.039 turn my head around, but it was true. You saw me running to 272 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.599 the field, right. So you live with guilt, you know, every 273 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:49.559 day. Every maternal guilt is one of It's another thing that that is just 274 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.640 it's inevitable, it's undeniable. Everyone has it, whether they say they do 275 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.240 or not. And I feel guilty all the time, even though my daughters 276 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:03.279 are happy and healthy, and but you just want to be there sometimes a 277 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.359 little bit more, and sometimes you get there a little lad or whatever because 278 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:08.839 you're right. And and the worst thing was when if I have and they 279 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.519 I could give you advice on when they get to that age when you're on 280 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:17.000 the phone talk and somebody don't do this with the hend Yeah. I look 281 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:18.839 back now and I go, how many times did I go? Five minutes? 282 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.400 Five minutes? Right? If I could, if I had to do 283 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.480 over, I would not do that because now I can see their faces walking 284 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.200 away as children, going just give me five minutes. Yeah, and there 285 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.920 with no whole buttons. There was no new button. I'm covering the phone 286 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.880 going five minutes. It was we're going off to break. I'm sitting stumbling, 287 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.440 and we'll send top his nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty. 288 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:44.039 We'll be right back, sponsored by Pillow Windows of Boston. Next day Molding 289 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:53.119 and Kennedy Carter want me out mail one Land Town? Were we out mail 290 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.359 down people's down and comment and do with Justin ram Sam. We got out 291 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:03.359 of the way out and I'm sitting stumbling. It's the toughest nails on WBZ 292 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.640 News Radio ten thirty. And I'm here with Holly Christensen and Samantha. I'm 293 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.400 sorry, folks, but we just went off to break and we're just talking 294 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.680 about we went totally off I ninety five. We're on four ninety five we 295 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:18.759 went on age seventeen, and we're talking about the decades. So there's a 296 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:22.480 decade between you and Sammy thinking all that, right, yep, and she 297 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.319 you're married to kids. I was married, divorced two kids, and then 298 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:29.599 you got Sammy in the back of going, I ain't get married because I'm 299 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:30.640 going to find the right guy. Like, I'm not going to end up 300 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:34.400 with what Sammy is a loser, A loser, a loser, right, 301 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:40.200 So there was another colorful word that will be in Sammy. They are losers 302 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:44.359 because why they don't want more for themselves and they're intimidated by someone that does 303 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:47.640 do well. Can't you just be happy because someone's making money in the relationship. 304 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.680 I would think that, But again it's that competition that a woman should 305 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.039 make more money than me, and I think, please go not in my 306 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:00.880 household. Yeah, it wasn't my household. Now it's like who cares? 307 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.519 That's what I think too, Who cares? But she goes on dates and 308 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.240 guys will say, well, you make more money than me, and she'll 309 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:07.960 be like, well, I didn't go on a date with you, and 310 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.960 thank you for letting me know that. Well, that was her age, 311 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:15.039 and I took him on vacation and he drove me nuts about the cost of 312 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.279 everything. No that he was paying for it. Yeah, he's like, 313 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.559 can you believe the cost of the hot dog? Can you believe the cost 314 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:26.640 of this? And I was like, would you like anything with Starbucks? 315 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.079 I don't support that establishment that's for rich people. Are like, it was 316 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:32.599 a yes or no, thank you. I'm out. And then she's texting 317 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:34.480 me. She goes, oh my god, I can't get out of here. 318 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.839 I'm like, stop being so mean. She's like, oh no. 319 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:40.720 He's like, I don't mind you, and that Louis Vuittade never before. 320 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:42.000 But leave the burke in at home. You know what it is? Are 321 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:45.599 you serious? My berkan was ugly. I go, please take a picture 322 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.559 of say this to your mom and your sister and tell him. It's like, 323 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.799 I think it's it's something about him pretentious. I bought her the bag, 324 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.200 but as you were able to. But we're in like the Bahamas at 325 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:59.400 the casino, I can throw my money away. Yeah he doesn't care there. 326 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.519 But if I can taste, touch and feel, there's something messed up 327 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.799 here. No, that doesn't work. Okay. Well, see, so 328 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:08.240 we've got three generations in here because every ten years is pretty much the generation. 329 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:14.319 Right. Yeah, so the three generations oddly enough twenty six to twenty 330 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:18.599 nine have there together more than thirty to thirty five that they are way more 331 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.279 hustlers than that. The next one behind her seems to be waking up. 332 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:27.839 It alternates generations. I'm telling you certain traits within generations, Allele. I 333 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:33.480 take yoga with have like multiple jumps, really all of them. So date 334 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.359 younger. There's like the girls and the guys will have like that's say good, 335 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:42.119 you don't think I don't think it can work. Women age fast and 336 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:45.680 men number one true. Okay, men stay looking better if they don't lose. 337 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:49.000 They hear, so they don't listen, they don't lose, they hear 338 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.799 close share within two years either way, like does it. I don't think 339 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.119 she is younger. It makes a big difference. But if you start doing 340 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.799 that five seven, Yeah, comes a time where you start to look like 341 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.519 his you know mom, Yeah, that's right. We don't want that. 342 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.400 You definitely don't want that. So it can look fine the other way, 343 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.400 an older man younger woman. But that also is a sign that you know, 344 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.559 listen, I'm marrying because I don't want I want to take the easy 345 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.319 way out. Yeah, like at twenty five, because I'd be in love 346 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.200 with an eighty year old man. I highly doubt it. Okay, especially 347 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:22.519 my father when I was twenty five, was twenty three years old than me, 348 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.759 so that would have brought him to like, I don't know, forty 349 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:29.880 eight or whatever. But it's just amazing that we get three generis, like 350 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:34.240 I said, and three different stories. And Sammy, your friends at are 351 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:38.519 your age that are parents. And I remember Danielle call me saying, your 352 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:42.000 friends call me ma, and my son's friends call me ma. I can't 353 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.640 do the smile like I have. I have a daughter and I'm a lawyer, 354 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:47.559 and I don't know how you did all this. You just do it. 355 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.400 You just do it. But you find that they live at guilt going 356 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.519 to work and no, you're a general there and say, I don't know 357 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:59.519 how people do without a nanny. Okay, we just we did it without 358 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:03.319 a nanny. I had family. Their mentality is well Janelle specifically, she's 359 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:06.920 like, if I can't be there because I'm working, then I'm paying for 360 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:08.839 the nanny. But if it's costing me, if I'm making more money, 361 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.680 that it makes sense for me to be at work or I'll switch. And 362 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.519 but what about your other friends, Like, I don't know, babe, 363 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.759 I don't have a friend that doesn't have a nanny. I don't. I 364 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:23.680 can tell you this. Most of my friends had somewhat jobs, but mine 365 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.160 was a job. It was it was building up a business. Yeah, 366 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:30.240 I mean so Empire. There was a career there. So it was like 367 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.759 I'm going to work nine to five and I come home and you worry about 368 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.759 how the lights are coming on tomorrow, and you worry about where the bill's 369 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.000 gonna hip. When it's your business, you don't stop worrying. You got 370 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:44.720 to worry on everything you're worrying about next month and how you're you gonna pay 371 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.480 your bills next month, next week. I believe the bigger difference is that 372 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.680 you all had kids younger than we did, so your parents were there more. 373 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:53.720 Not me, No, my general Sammy, Come on, you know 374 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:59.200 that the average parent your age was ten years old than me. Yeah. 375 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:02.680 But all between where my friends are having kids and their parents now, like 376 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.440 their parents are retired, they're not there to babysit and help. They have 377 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.839 to have the nanny. Oh, they don't have the age gap is too 378 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.599 far between for them to like feel what he's saying. If grandparents are retired 379 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:17.160 now are still working. They're retired, But I don't think the parents trust 380 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.359 their kid fully with their parents that's retired down because they're so much older and 381 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:23.039 they forget how to be with a baby. Now listen, and I retire. 382 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:26.240 Last thing I want to do. I'm going during my life. I 383 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.119 got ten years left here wanting more babies. I'm still raising you and your 384 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.599 brother and everybody else. This is what I say all the time. Meanwhile, 385 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.079 something happens to me. She wants the rights to my eggs. Oh 386 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.400 have you signed anything? Now? They died with me like that, said 387 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.240 what do you do if something happened with your eggs? Like you know, 388 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.880 yeah, no one's getting my eggs like they get tossed the word she wants 389 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.119 to remake me. I said, well what if I want to remake it? 390 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.519 You? This is getting very interesting. You know, it could make 391 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.960 somebody else needed it, like to have a baby and bring another little And 392 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.839 she said no, because I don't want someone else raising my children. Well, 393 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.839 because what if they what if they do something messed up to a kid 394 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:08.680 and ruin that kid's life and it's my eggs and they come looking for me 395 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.680 like I did tonight. Great point, aries aries. Yeah, we're so 396 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:18.799 different. We're so different, but we're in love. But it's just I 397 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.599 know, our conversation was supposed to be about the jewelry stores and and the 398 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:25.960 blah blah bah. But but sometimes women just need to hear and maybe men 399 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.079 need to hear. Yeah that this hasn't been an easy ride. And I 400 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.000 just laugh at people and they go, oh, Cidney Stumple's got panic attacks. 401 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.880 Oh what's how could ship panic attacks? Her life is this? Well, 402 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:38.680 guess what. We all have our stuff. Yeah, we all have 403 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.079 our crap. Right, it doesn't matter. I mean, like you said, 404 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.119 every single you've got, you've got the weight of the world on your 405 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.000 shoulders. When you're a business owner twenty four seven unless you're sleeping. Unless 406 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.240 you're sleeping, and then you wake up. When you wake up, what's 407 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.319 the first thing in your face? Uh? Well, get my kids on 408 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.039 the bus, okay, phone, but right, well, of course, 409 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.759 yeah, the first th eyes the phones in my face. And that's like 410 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.880 such a no no. With any sort of mental health, do you read 411 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.759 about and They're like, do not look at your phone when you first wake 412 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.680 up. I'm like, how can you not missed? Just make sure there's 413 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.839 no fires to put out? Correct, and then move on, you know, 414 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.880 and then go back to it. But you have to. But you 415 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:19.640 hear what you just said. You looking at your phone for the fire, 416 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.400 because when you own a business, you don't get HI, how are you 417 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.359 you get the roof just fell in? Oh god, Billy just fell off 418 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.920 a stud I mean like you're looking for the nine one one calls, right, 419 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:36.000 yep, because that's what the brain is already set absolutely for a problem 420 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.759 after problem after problem. And I'm sure like all of us out here in 421 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:44.240 business, you're looking for help too every day and looking for skilled labor because 422 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.480 what you do you need skilled labor? Yeah? Yeah, we handcraft every 423 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.440 single piece in the studio. Correct. So you can't just find skilled labor, 424 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.720 and you can't find young kids that want to go to work. And 425 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.160 it's I out here right now right Yeah for me, there's like a know, 426 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.720 it was great, but now it's like no one wants to work? 427 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:07.759 Is it different now for you? After COVID, did your business change at 428 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.759 all? No? Because we were essential so we had to work through COVID, 429 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.559 so there was no shutdown, but we worked differently in the fact that 430 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.000 couldn't pigpile the subs on. Yeah, we were in taiveex suit's masks, 431 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.240 couldn't breathe. It's a hundred degrees in that suit, even though it was 432 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.359 sixty degrees out. Then when it gets to eighty degrees you're like drenched in 433 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.920 there. Horrible. Yeah, we were crazy. I mean it was I 434 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.160 look back. How about this washing. I used to say to wait, 435 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.519 if you go grocery shopping, wash the fruit and stuff before you put in 436 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.559 the refrigerator. He used to lie to me, told me after I didn't 437 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.759 wash it nothing, I'm getting undressed in the garage, put in my stuff 438 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:47.119 and bring it. I'm dressing in the garage now, and then bringing my 439 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:48.599 stuff into the laundry room to put to the washing machine. And then some 440 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.240 of the stuff we did was in the singes insane. Yes, and it 441 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.000 has it. I would say if we had never had COVID, I would 442 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.359 have had another good ten years in my career. I think COVID took a 443 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.799 little bit of a beating on me. Sure, okay, because then we 444 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.440 went through no product. We were running out of product. Yeah, the 445 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.559 supply chain was is still a little bit jammed down, jammed up. Yeah, 446 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:14.240 something will jam it up again. Yeah, but it is what it 447 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:15.319 is. So yeah, I mean you've had I've had to learn how to 448 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:22.319 work differently. Yeah, you know AI is not going to build buildings, 449 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.319 okay, not commercial for us, not resime your AI proof, which is 450 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.799 so I have robots right now, I count on human beings. Right. 451 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:32.200 They will sit there and say, oh, i've been on ninety five, 452 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:33.480 it's been three days. As you've been on. You're coming to work, 453 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.400 man, So I don't know if you're dealing with the same aggravation that we're 454 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.519 dealing with out there. Yeah, we're finally starting to stabilize our workforce. 455 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.079 We have some really, really good team members. But it was dicey for 456 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.599 a while and now it's all smooth. No, it's not why why she 457 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:56.359 said that, I love you, Holly. I so hate people that full 458 00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:57.599 of blogey old that I thought we're going to go to break. I'm Sydney 459 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:02.599 Stumble and you're listening to Tough Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty, 460 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.680 sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston Wood Smaller Insurance, World Auto Body 461 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:26.319 and Tosca Drive Auto Body and welcome back to ten Nails on w BZ News 462 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.119 Radio ten thirty. And I'm Sindy and I'm here with Samantha and Sammy. 463 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.279 What are you doing right now? And I'm sorry and you are Holly. 464 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.279 Yeah, okay, you didn't introduce yourself. Okay, so all just passed 465 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.839 out gifts to us, Sam and I and my mom wants hold on. 466 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:44.799 I got this beautiful necklace, and I'll explain to people. First of all, 467 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.160 it kind of resembles a little bit different, but the Tiffany's necklace, 468 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.440 remember the Tiffanys I do, yeah, with the Tiffany sterling. Yeah, 469 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.559 you can see. I like chunky things, but that one is filled with 470 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.880 sand, sand and earth elements. But that one has sand from Marco Island, 471 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:06.000 Florida, and crushed turquoise, which is just one of my favorite stones. 472 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.599 But you could have she brought Maco Island because the last name was Stumpo 473 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.759 and Everyrandon macawell has a vowel at the end of the name. Sammy, 474 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.759 Yes, let me see, because you're hiding over there, I'm reading about 475 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.440 mine. Let me see I have lots of sand from the Nope, I'm 476 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.279 connected to my ears. Oh you can't. Can you bring me that over 477 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.960 place so I can see Sammy gift? This is beautiful. This is really 478 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.519 stunning. This cuff that's all sterling silver. It's actually recycled sterling. We 479 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.640 try to be eco conscious. You put it, yeah, exactly, and 480 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.559 you can squeeze that right to yours. Okay, I love it. Kind 481 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.519 of get a left because you look at this and you look at this right, 482 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.319 yeah, and then you're string bracelet. Yeah, that's me. Like 483 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.599 just that has sand from Saint Martin. It has turquoise. I think it 484 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.720 has Bermuda. Sammy does that. So it says beach sand from Miami Beach 485 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.599 and then beach sand from Boc Grande, Aruba, and then beach sand from 486 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.200 Puerto Rico and the Bahamas. Oh perfect, Okay, I was way off. 487 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.559 Never mind, this is lying to me. But how cool is it? 488 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.000 I mean the sand is like the different textures everything. Of course, 489 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.359 I love it. That actually, would I love that on you? That 490 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:19.319 for the record, you're turning into your mother right now? Where is that? 491 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.119 Because Nana does that? Do you? Oh? But it looks pretty 492 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.160 on me. It does look pretty U Nana doesn't but me it does. 493 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.079 No, no, no, I would never take this break from you. 494 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.359 But see for me, I this this would make me smile in the winter 495 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:36.119 time because it reminds me of summer. Yeah, and what's my favorite time 496 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.759 of the year is warm weather? So the blue. I love the brown 497 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:43.240 sand though, because I'm a Brownie person. But the blue. Where's your 498 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.160 favorite place? Do you have like your happy place? Her bedroom? But 499 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:52.160 that yeah, my bad and my under a massive duvet down comforter. That's 500 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.119 like this thing is I don't know. The blankets that are feel crest blankets 501 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:59.720 would soakle the around though my whole life were chasing around. It's beautiful though, 502 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:05.720 actually, but what is my favorite I love the heat. Yeah, 503 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.960 I'd rather work in ninety degree weather than the cold. Same, okay, 504 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.279 so I don't mind being looking. I'm in the field every day so it 505 00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.559 doesn't matter. So are you the hell like I'm bundled up? Are you 506 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.640 a Cape girl? Are you a Florida girl? You Florida being a girl 507 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.519 beach in Florida? I stay, okay, I'm a cancer as you know, 508 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.279 right, so I don't leave I've grown up at the Diplomat Hotel and 509 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:29.559 I still stay with the love it. Okay, okay, we don't change. 510 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.200 It doesn't like change. We no, No, my life is a 511 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.200 destiny, not a journey. You're on a journey, Sami's on the journey. 512 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.559 My life has been laid out. Yeah, like the book's been written. 513 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.359 So in the winter, so we could make you a little piece of 514 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.079 jewelry with a stand from where the Diplomat is, and then in the winter 515 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.160 you can kind of look at it. Looked at the Florida San Laly is 516 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.920 it all dredged in? Is it the Miami Sands? It's not looking so 517 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.880 great. Yeah, yeah, I mean these are really beautiful there because the 518 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.480 same keeps getting washed away. Yeah. You guys, you have a website, 519 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.160 right, we do. Yeah, we're everywhere. It's dune jewelry dot 520 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.160 com. Repeat that, because if I'm saying it's beautiful, you guys people 521 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:07.559 follow me, know me? You know what I with my jewelry. You've 522 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:12.559 got good taste. Yeah again, you've got this song and we won't say 523 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.480 that. We let my head cut off, right, but then you give 524 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.760 my seven dollar bracelets right right? Next, what's kind of but see these 525 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.719 things, they all mean something to me. Yeah, this was one place, 526 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.400 another place, another place. So they all have just followed you on 527 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:30.519 Instagram. Oh perfect, Yeah, we have a really fun Instagram. It's 528 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.119 Dune Jewelry. So what can we let the people know we're not having a 529 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.960 private conversation. Well, we kind of are, but we are in the 530 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:39.920 studio, Sammy. Well, let people know what Instagram is done jewelry. 531 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:46.079 Well, it's duny, like a sand dune Jewelry dot com and we're everywhere. 532 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:51.039 You'll find us everywhere, from fine jewelry stores with our higher end pieces 533 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.519 to the Paper Store just brought in a whole new collection that is beautiful. 534 00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.639 The Paper Store is a chain of ninety Hallmark stores up and down East Coast, 535 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.760 mostly New England. There's one in them by the dry bar and Starbucks. 536 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.960 Really yeah, across the street. It's a great gift store. You're 537 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:12.920 welcome paying Field Mall or the street the other side near a dry bar. 538 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.960 What that store? Oh yeah, the paper you're right, I can just 539 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.480 I just saw it in my head. The logo. Yeah, it's recognizable. 540 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.559 So we're we're kind of everywhere. And not only do we do sand 541 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.960 in earth elements in our jewelry. But people have sent us wedding flowers, 542 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:34.280 funeral flowers, ashes, human creamin's animal creamine. I know, I'm just 543 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:39.920 throwing it out there. They do because it's their experience, it's their memory. 544 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.239 So people say, Pa, don't write in your world that I have 545 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.880 to wear you. Yeah, no, just put me in my mike. 546 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:51.400 What's that thing she does? She does have a list of people that are 547 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:52.599 not allowed to come to her. Is that right? Oh? Yeah, 548 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.039 there's people I don't want my funeral. That's amazing, and you have it 549 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.760 written down. Oh, Samuel, though I love you, we'll have you 550 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.800 the bodyguids escort right out. You didn't like me while I was alive. 551 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.320 Now you want to come right right? You shall your tribute now? Yeah, 552 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.440 pay your So here's a question I have for you. Well, I 553 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.480 it's kind of hard to ask a question because did you take any like junior 554 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.360 high school, high school friends with you into your future or is all that 555 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:20.599 in the reay view mirror forel No, my high school best friend, Samantha. 556 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.400 We have been friends since we were twelve years old, and she does 557 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:29.199 ninety percent of our photography. Cancer cancer Okay, so she's loyal, so 558 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.760 you're never going to give her up. But how much, Like someone's asked 559 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.480 me, how many friends did you make on the lad of success? I 560 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:38.840 said, you mean how many friends I lose? Yeah? How many acquaintances 561 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:44.079 did I make? But how many friends I lose? So as your business 562 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.079 is growing, people around you, they proud of you, or do they 563 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.679 want is your competition or whatever? I want to see you not do so 564 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.000 well? It's a good question. I don't know one hundred percent. I 565 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:57.880 don't have a lot of close friends, so you keep your world at a 566 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.840 distance. I do. I don't know if I mean to. I think 567 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.599 I'm so busy. I really prioritize my business. I work twenty four to 568 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.440 seven, truly, and then when I'm not working, it's about the kids. 569 00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.199 So it's it is a little bit challenging. You know, there's a 570 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.719 husband in that spot too, right, I know, I know, I 571 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.639 know, uh huh and him but he's so supportive, that's all I mean. 572 00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:25.000 And he can tell little advice. Yeah, pay attention to him to 573 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.360 absolutely. Okay, Okay, so you know it takes two people to make 574 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.239 a marriage. It takes two people to break a marriage. Right. So 575 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.639 I've been with Ray for thirteen years, which I was married for twenty six 576 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:43.559 years. But it's hard to be with a woman that has a career. 577 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.159 And it's hard because you're coming home and the last thing you want to do 578 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:51.719 is talk about your day. And then you lost sometimes in your own brain. 579 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.760 Once the kids go to sleep and everybody the house goes down. Now 580 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.039 you're stuck in your own brain and you don't want to talk to the person 581 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:04.119 you're with with it. You do, but you talk about the surface stuff. 582 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.280 Yeah, once in a while, you talk with the nitty gritty, 583 00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.679 but most of it's in your head and you're alone in your own brain. 584 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:14.119 Yeah, right, always. Yeah, I know it's a terrible feeling, 585 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:19.599 but that's part of being a woman and owning companies and whatever you do. 586 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.960 And I think men have been alone in their own heads forever like that. 587 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.920 So imagine that, because they'd come home and they'll be like, oh, 588 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.840 I bought this, I bought that, I bought this, and IgE like, 589 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:29.840 can you give me a break? Can you get off the credit cards? 590 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.079 Right? You know what that's like. Right, You're out there making 591 00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:37.800 a living and then everybody's like drawing from that money and you're trying to get 592 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:39.679 more money to make that business world that business more and then you take care 593 00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:44.880 of a family and we have those conversations. I mean the girls when I 594 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.280 do travel quite a bit for work now, trunk shows and events and trade 595 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.039 shows, and we have those conversations because they'll be like, Mom, please 596 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.639 don't go. I don't want you to go. Daddy gets crumpy, and 597 00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.440 then we all sit down as a family and I'm like, okay, so 598 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:04.159 we can have have the swimming pool and your gymnastics and because I do all 599 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.159 this, but mom has to work or truly, do you want me to 600 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.679 stay home? Daddy can work. You know, we can have less, 601 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:15.679 do it less and and I really I'm not saying it in a a in 602 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:20.519 a silly way. I'm asking and they're like, no, Mom, bye, 603 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.960 here's your suitcase. You have a nice trip. I mean, at 604 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.199 the end of the day, they're going to dislike us or something. One 605 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.440 of the problems going to be our problems. You know, we didn't create 606 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.039 the problem. They create the problem, but you're gonna be the one that 607 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.760 gets blamed, trust me. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with 608 00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.920 they're just a little too young. Right now, talk to me ten more 609 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:39.639 years if you called me and say no, ten to twelve years saying, 610 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.599 Cindy, what I do wrong? I gave this feel me a great life. 611 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.360 Bah blah bah blah blah blah blah. And I'm getting I'm the one 612 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.760 getting it all over the place, right, But that's just how it is. 613 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.199 And you gotta be tough skited, She tells me, since you've been 614 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.719 through metopause, you're so emotional. Very it does. Oh my god, 615 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.639 this are you more emotional? Oh my gosh, because things now are creeping 616 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.719 up. Yeah. We used to call her the tuner. Now it's emotional. 617 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.239 So I was a tuner rupper. Now I just like maybe. But 618 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:08.599 again, we're all going to have our regrets. So that's just how life 619 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.480 is. But I've given them a great life, so you know it. 620 00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.440 Then the other side of me goes shut up. Yeah, like, I'm 621 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:15.519 not listening to your crap anymore. Ok, you've got a great life. 622 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.559 Off my back. Now stand up and be held accountable and do your thing. 623 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.000 Yeah, we're going to break you. Never say anything. You're good, 624 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.599 that's what we love you. I'm cdny stuff, But you listened Toughest 625 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:40.320 Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty. It'll be right back and welcome back 626 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:45.400 to Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty. And I'm here with Samantha 627 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.639 and Holly. Holly, take us out. Thanks for having me, No, 628 00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.840 it was my pleasure. This has been such a fun conversation. We 629 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:54.840 kind of came on to talk about doing jewelry and being a business owner and 630 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.599 things like that. And we got and we went down nine ninety five, 631 00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.599 We went to Florida, We and Tisrael were in Germany, went everywhere. 632 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:07.440 Okay, So well now, I mean, I just I'm excited to let 633 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.280 everyone know about Dune Jewelry, which you can find us at dunjewelry dot com. 634 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.880 All of our designs are handcrafted. We've donated over two hundred and fifty 635 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:20.039 thousand dollars to Coastal Preservation and other global charities over the past ten years. 636 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.920 We have a lifetime warranty on all our jewelry and it's all personalized and customized 637 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:28.199 with your memories from your travels or special moments. Thank you Holly for coming 638 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.159 in and everybody, have a great, safe weekend and we will see you 639 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.119 next weekend on WBZ news Radio ten thirty