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are one thousand UFO sightings reported around the

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world every month. Ninety percent of
these sightings can be explained, but ten

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percent cannot. Officially and unofficially,
the US military has been investigating the UFOs

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since nineteen forty seven. They're top
secret goal is to mine out what's behind

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these unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies
them as unusual airborne anomalies, but a

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better term is X files. Join
us now as Mac one one and Commander

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Cobra explore these unsolved cases UFO incidents
that baffle even the US military. This

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is mac Maloney's Military X files and
now here's Mac maloney. Good evening when

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welcome mc maloney's Miltor Exiles show here
on the Distant fund To Radio Network.

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This is Mac maloney. Wow,
what a show we have for you tonight.

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It's already funny. We have only
started. Girls, your big box

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of clinics and big box of white
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down because Ray Fans one one is
here. Jannie, Hey, baby,

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Hey Mac, how's it going?
What's happening? How's it going? Girls

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out there, ladies, gentlemen,
all ships at sea, Welcome to the

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show. It's going to be a
fun show tonight. I can feel it.

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You can feel it. If I
was m Path I would be able

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to feel it. I'm not.
But I can feel it anyway. I

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feel it anyway. That's that strong. Huh yeah. Interesting. The last

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time I was trying to feel it, I got arrested. Well well really

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with thirty eight seconds into the show. Eighteen dollars no cocoa. I'll saving

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this very screwed up world. But
our national corresponden switched by Steve Waters with

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us down there and Western Jinny,
how you doing that switching? I'm doing

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really good. Mac okay, and
how are you beyond wonderful? Beyond wonderful?

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We have to hear it. Anything
new down there? You just got

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off of the big mopband festival and
you're heading somewhere else. Yeah, I

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kind of recovered from that. Nothing
nothing new down here, but I will

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be doing some traveling this weekend out
to the Van Meter Visitor Festival and I

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will be the MC there as well. The MC. Yeah you get around?

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Do you mention us at all?
Do you ever bring us off at

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any of these places that you have
the special? Guess? I don't know

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if it cuts into my per diem
or any of my benefits. I'd have

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to really think about it. Wow. Man, But if they can afford,

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you know, with without uh you
know, screwing me over, sure

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they haven't played really Send Meca Bill
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one also with a SA security chief
Willie Club w C. Well, w

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C. How you doing? You
know? I'm doing great markets. It's

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great to be here again tonight and
gain fit like a lot of energy.

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I just a little one. I
had a clam my throat so excited.

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But anyways, uh, I'm pretty
excited about u switch. Sounds like he's

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got a big time coming up here. And I wanted to ask, which

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I've been asking. I'm thinking to
ask you about this. When you do

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big events like that, do you
wear different you know, head pieces you

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might call them. I guess,
oh, for those? Or is it

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you wear the same one thing?
Do you dress it up for the consistency

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fools them? If you're consistent,
If you're always changing your your wig,

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you know, people will know it's
a wig. So you just wear the

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same same thing and they say,
is that a wig? You know?

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And they said, well, I
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always did. Well, some of
the things I've seen you wear, I

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know right away even if my eyes
are closed. But cruel. Now,

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I am kind of a fashion plate
when it comes to T shirts. I

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mean I will wear as many as
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weekend. You distract them away from
your head. It's called I never thought

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about it that way, but that's
that's a good good distraction. Hey,

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listen, speaking of distractions. Also
in the house with us tonight is your

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full mechanic Ellen now though, well, oh Mac, hello, everyone,

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So Willy Willy, real quick Uh, they brought act some part of an

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asteroid. What do you think he's
going to talk about? All right,

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well you're gonna you want you're taking
my show now? Well, no,

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I just want to ask you about
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hear. I'm curious because even though
that says I'm only limited to too many,

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I never got it from some ever
Poughkeepsie. You know it's play not

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a real No, no, no, don't say that. You know.

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I think it's going to be.
I think it's going to be very interesting

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news from that thing. You never
know. But anyway, Spike talking about

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interesting news, bad news. No
Raven tonight, No Raven tonight. Guys.

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Wow, So it's a sassages.
I don't know how to deal with

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that. I mean, you know, plumbing issue said something to plumbing issue

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apparently, Yes, nothing good to
look at tonight, that's the problem.

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Uh. Anyway, we do have
a guest coming on later on, so

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never say never, Stephanie from the
Ghostly Adventures people. I think his the

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name of her gang. And also
doctor Bob Gross is going to be joining

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us later on. Well in a
few minutes, he's going to tell us

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about NASA's new initiative, believing it
not to use AI to look for UFOs.

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You know, NASA is everywhere now
all of a sudden, they were

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everywhere. You're absolutely right, Yeah, yep. As you know, my

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daughter, my daughter Alison is still
going for a PhD and artificial intelligence and

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she's getting a lot closer. She's
doing a lot of work for NASA ames

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out there in the West Coast.
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Games Research Centers. Came back from
a gig. She's going to go out

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there again. Now, this is
the one who were employers refused to let

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her come on the show. I
don't think that's you know what, they

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wouldn't have remember something like that.
I think it was more per decision in

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case, you know. Okay,
so she just hated. That's okay.

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One of women loose slips six ships. Oh wow, okay, So anyway,

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uh, Raven isn't here. However, we do heavy top ten,

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so playing the pot of Raven tonight
will be Switchblade Steve Watt, well bad,

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you know you're up after the test
there, can you do it?

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I prefer saying filling in for Raven
but not playing report. I don't I

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think the I made out Tomato compete
with a black eyed kid, So good

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job. This is the top ten
reasons the Aliens will not be landing in

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twenty twenty three. Okay, the
top ten reasons the Aliens will not be

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landing in twenty twenty three. Number
ten, stop the music. Gasoline is

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at three to eighty a gallon and
it takes a lot of gas. Are

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on a Starbuster three thirty five warp
engine drive. Wow, Wow, that

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sounds accurate. Thought, sure he
would laugh with that. Nice pleaseitch Number

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nine, they're waiting to hear back
about their dinner invitation to Taylor Swift.

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Now listen, let me just talk
about her for a second. Okay,

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did you see her on TV with
the with with Kelsey with Kelsey? Okay,

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no, Kelsey and Swift going out
together. Okay, they're the new

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item, They're the new thing.
And she was in the she was in

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the booth with his mother for the
game and she went nuts. They beat

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the hell out of somebody. I
forget how he caught a couple of passes.

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So on. So then now they're
the cup right Bill Belichick, who

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has never cracked a joke in his
life, and the press conference, goes,

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someone asked him about it. Someone
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ask about it. He goes,
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career. This might be the best
one yet, not yet. I heard

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that. I heard that when it
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about it? Mac? No,
what that it's a publicity stunt, I'm

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sure. Yeah, since that happened, they can't keep the Kelsey shirts in

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the you know, it's just selling
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you expect that that's going to be
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of her Ye, some recent touris
so they said, keep an eye on

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that, they said, but that
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like her. Madonna's done that,
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Yeah, all the Kadashians have done
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kind of like a an then arranged
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both both people get hot publicity wise, and you know, everyone wins until

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they break up and she writes a
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phony. If you saw her in
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you had a touchdown. They would
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you know, she made it look
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Yep, he was going nuts.
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was just sitting there and she's finally
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come on, go on. So, I I mean, I like

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her and I like Kelsey, but
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that. Yeah. Well, they
said she needed to write a new breakup

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song, so she had to go
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it on. I listen while we
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has violated the code. What's the
universal code? I can see his hands.

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one. I thought he had an
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his cat's tail. Get that thing, Get that thing out of here.

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Good. They call it kitty letter
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it the way you don't tell cats
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it. Really Yeah, okay,
exactly exactly tell them that when they're eating

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your body. So we were saying
to Taylor, Swift makes more money in

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one set of ticket sales for one
concert, Yeah, then he makes in

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a season. Is that right.
Yeah, one of her arrows or whatever

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they call. Yeah, one sold
out stadium like Arrowhead when she did it.

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And the ticket sales are more money
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So there's another case where you know, the ladies made a lot more

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money than the guy when Brady,
you know, you know who's going to

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be on top. As the kids
say, all right, let's move on.

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Number eight. Please. These are
the top ten reasons. Top top

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ten reasons the Aliens will not be
landing in twenty twenty three. The fact

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that aliens everywhere drink only bud light
restricts the number of places that they can

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land on Earth. Well, that's
probably true. Next, please chicklay down

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south. Number seven. They took
a vote and decided to hold off revealing

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themselves until next February's spring break.
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are funny. About two hours you
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in the Ukraine, but some asshole
tried to shoot them down. Oh huh,

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there you go, next, police, they should shoot back. Number

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five. They will land only when
lonely Larry tells them to. I thought

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even will go to be on tonight. Next. Please, Hey, the

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number four reason that aliens are not
going to land on Earth. They would

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land in China, but they're afraid
that they'd want to take off and then

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land back fare again in an hour
later. Now that's funny. Wad it

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one? Do another read through with
that one, sweet, we'll see just

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how funny it is. They would
they would land in China, but they're

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afraid that they'd want to take off
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later. Okay, well, okay, is that like the physics thing?

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Should I read it slower for clothes? That's all right, I'm not good

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in physics. We can read it. We can read it now of them

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now sweat okay. Number three,
they're still trying to work out an endorsement

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deal with those pricks at ticktack.
Come on, see what those pricks at

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ticktac the tic tac ufo videos.
They're trying to work on an endorsement.

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What's the mat with the spikel Okay? Number two, they're not quite ready

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to reveal that Lily James is their
queen and that once they land, all

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men must die except one who would
that be? Who else? One who

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loves Lily James? It's all right, it's got to be you. That's

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that's the end of the story.
Okay. Number one please, and the

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number one reason why the Aliens will
not land at twenty twenty three. They

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don't think anyone will notice. It's
true. Some guy had a New Yorker

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cartoon and the guy is standing on
the you know, the guy is standing

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on the street corner. He's going, you know, UFO has proven to

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exist, and people just rushing by
him. No one cares, you know,

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ten years ago, that's all anyone
would care about. Oh, twenty

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years ago. Now, there's so
much stuff going on in the fact that

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they have videos of them that the
military agrees there's something there, that everyone

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agrees that there's something there, that
they actually exist. It's just another story.

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It's weird how it happened. But
that's how I see it anyway.

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Well, I think that it's like
that because we still want to see more

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our core evidence, right, proof, more videos, something that's not blurry

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and weird and right. You know, we want to see it. We're

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hearing it all the time, we're
curious about it. Show me the money,

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show me the videos. And we're
not getting it, And the government

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steps in and says, hey,
we're kind of you know, buying into

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this. Yeah, well, right, show us some money then, I

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mean, let's see the evidence.
The only thing that has really happened is

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that the military establishment of this country
has publicly agreed that they don't know what

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they are. That's always been the
big question, right, And I don't

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believe they know what they are,
because they wouldn't go go through all this

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if they did. Now here's the
thing, though, but is why all

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of a sudden, why did they
get woken up? What did they see?

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see. What did they see that
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probably more than the tiktak videos or
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the conclusion that we don't know what
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That's all they tell us. Now
for the past few years, we

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don't know what they are. We're
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We haven't classified as unknown something phenomenon
club nose what do they call them

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u aps? Right, you?
Unidentified aerial phenomenon anomalous And I can't even

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remember the word. Now, yeah, I mean that took the word are

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out of it because they're lumping in
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I mean, that's that's a classic
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name of the you know, the
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know they get lost. You know. Well, the big thing is they're

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putting their money with them all.
They're putting money with them outs, which

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they've never done. There's a lot
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now, so I think you're right, Mac, someone's got something that something

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is motivating the government to do much
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at least they're showing that they're trying
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my opinion, they had to come
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the line that they have to go
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these things are. And you know, and even though they're not Russian to

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Chinese, they've you know, categorically
ruled that out. They do show up

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more often during a military exercise as
well UFO's and watime during military exercises,

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you know, they stock military ships. You know, they seem to know

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when military activity is going on because
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that would lead you to believe that
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of technology that those tic TAC videos
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years ago, some of them were
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big mystery. But the bigger mystery
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the US military admit that they don't
know what they are? That's you know,

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that's the question has to be answered. Anyway, Why don't we do

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this? Why don't we take any
commercial break now? And when we come

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back, Club's going to tell us
a little bit about this asteroid a retrieval

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spacecraft that landed in the Utah,
doesert today what it's all about? And

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then we're going to have a guest
on in about thirty minutes in Switch is

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going to give us. Switch.
You are going to give us just like

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a real kind of quick report on
what van meter is about and so on.

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Yes, okay, why don't we
take that commercial bright now and we'll

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be right back after this. This
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showing here in the distant Thunder Radio
Network, Please stay tuned. All heard

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of Area fifty one, the US
government's top secret base in the Nevada Desert.

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But have you ever heard of Area
fifty two or fifty three or fifty

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four fifty four? How about Connepar
Test Range or the Navy's secret base inside

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the Bermuda Triangle. Find out about
them and more in mac Maloney's Beyond Area

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fifty one Mysteries of the World's most
Forbidden Places. Did Richard Nixon show Jackie

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Gleeson a crashed alien spaceship near the
swamps of Florida? Is it true that

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more UFOs are seen over a small
Scottish village than anywhere else in the world.

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And is there a secret place in
Russia that some people think is Heaven

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on Earth? In mac Maloney's Beyond
Area fifty one, you'll visit more than

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a dozen top secret places around the
globe. The haunted forests of New Jersey,

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a valley in Colorado where shadows come
alive and humans can fly without wings.

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And where's the only secret base in
America that's not been visited by UFOs?

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You've heard Mac talk all about these
places on his radio show. Now

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you can read all about them yourself. That's mac maloney's Beyond Area fifty one

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Mysteries of the World's Most Forbidden Places, now on sale at Amazon. What

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a back We went to Mac maloney's
No trackshund show Here in the Distant Thunder

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Radio Network. This is Mac Maloney. Wow, what a show we have

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for you, tonime. What a
gang we have for you? First and

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moment girls you see, yeah,
the very famous one one oh Mac a

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little girls. So everybody book the
show? Everything? Okay? Over there?

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Oh yeah? Yeah? Over here
in England there's a you know,

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all the foot ball has started,
you know, the college football here,

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soccer and apparently a big golf tournament. It's going to be happening really huh

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Okay, sock got in this country. But in your ware, the health,

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the Ryder Cup, it's it's some
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excited about. Actually a good thing
to bet on anyway. Soccer is boring,

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worst sport in the world. Also
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Switchblade, Steve Ward, switchy,
it is great to be here tonight.

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Matt. You hate you hate soccer, don't you be truthful? Uh?

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I actually watched a little bit of
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and uh, what you do is
you tape it and you put it

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on fast forward. Oh yeah,
yeah, and you know after and then

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got forty five minutes go by,
go buy five minutes and it looks like

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it just moves faster and you can
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a Bruins game just watching fast forward. Uh. Anyway, also with us

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when the house is uh you foaming
Canada right now though? Hello Mac,

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Hello everyone. Slash ghost Hunt the
Slash Getaway driving. Okay, that was

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funny, just to hear. A
little while ago, we saw a shadow

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here in the station, which is
not good because no one's supposed to be

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in the station except us. We
did another We did a wide search,

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armed with a golf club and a
weapon that Coco gave me years ago.

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Couldn't find anybody. So but he
went right by the door right. We

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were a studio off to the from
the main big studio, and there have

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been a number of times I closed
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the door opened by itself. I'll
be sitting here and Mac doesn't notice it

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because he's facing away from it.
But I'm sitting facing the door and I

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see it open and he's talking,
and I'm like, should I say something?

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I just let it go with this
and you can hear it. You

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can hear us on the tape.
You know, oh what something happened?

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You know, you can hear us
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It's gonna win. Nobody's there switching
really, But one thing, I don't

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think a lot of people knew that
a golf club was proper ghost tiny equipment.

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It is it is now, believe
me, switching real quick. What

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you have a breakfast today where it
wants to know? Well, it was

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more of a brunch. I had
meat loaf with mashed potatoes and gravy okay

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and corn? Oh yeah, where'd
you go? You know we're talking.

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Where'd you go? Tutors? Tutors? Okay? Really they have that a

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tutors okay, all right? And
you don't have to tip right? No?

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No, no, no tip cup? No. Uh you don't know.

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You you put your card in and
there's no you know, choose your

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percent or whatever. Okay, you
know who does here? We don't have

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any of that. Not who it
is, it's not who it is anyway.

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That voice you hear Willie club Ossy
crazy Willy. How you doing?

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Okay? Oh hi, mac Hi, gang Hi, everyone are there.

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It's great to be here, see
all these smiling faces. And keep a

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nile for Bob from my angle.
Haks a lot. Okay, you know

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forty forty five miles away. Okay, if you hear it, jump in

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your carrying, come and get us. Okay if you have screams, Oh,

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I'm not going anywhere near that.
I think you guys might try just

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just for the heck of it,
say beetlejewice three times, No, no,

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no, alright, stop screwing around. Yeah anyway, Also with us,

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we got to behave ourselves because a
doctor what is what does doctor Bob

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gross? How you doing from Chicago? Hello Maclow, Everyone's terrific to be

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here. Okay, A right,
good to see you, doctor Bob.

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I suppose we should flap him on
though he's a semi regular, but you

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know, I think he feels better. Yeah, so anyway, so good

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to hear. Have you here tonight? Now you are working on a book?

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You told me you're working in a
book lately. Yes, I've been

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in co writing a book with cal
Kors and the title of the book is

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the Roswell and Kecksburg UFO Crashes the
scientific Evidence. Okay, all right,

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and it should be coming out in
about thirty days. And so do you

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do you solve both of those famous
cases? Uh? Yes? Really?

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Yeah? Okay, all right pretty
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I don't want them. I don't
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but right, okay, okay.
It's probably the most intense textsburgh book

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that I've written. Really, yeah, huh. Kenksbury is an interesting case.

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I mean, a lot of people
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and a lot of people actually saw
a take like a ninety degree turn and

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so on. Some people, you
know, they said as a media or

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whatever. But you know what they
found in the in the woods looked a

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lot about us, A lot alike, a lot alike, a lot like

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a sawyer's space beraft that the Russians
used to use, kind of chest that

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shape. And you know, the
army came and took away real quick and

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left behind a lot of mysteries,
a lot of men and black stuff so

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on. So that should be interesting. So what's the title of the book

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talked about? It's the title was
the Roswell and Kecksburgh UFO crashes scientific evidence.

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All right, well you'll have to
come on and you know, tell

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us all about it when it comes
out. Okay, it should be very

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interesting thing. Okay, Now,
as in the biz, I'm going to

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say, as they saying the BIS, I'm going to throw it to the

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club. Club. Let me put
your bumper in right here, reporting the

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latest the US military's new investigation into
UFOs and what they still aren't telling you.

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It's time for buck Global Report.
So I'm going to tell us about

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this latest development in the world of
asteroards. This US spacecraft that was gone

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seven years. Does how long it
takes to get to these things? Colickly?

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The sample came back parachuted into the
UTAH. Does it successfully? Now

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they have, you know, a
lot of bits and pieces, rock stuff

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and so on from an actual asteroid
that they think late hit Earth sometime in

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the future. So what do we
know? Should we be excited? Just

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the thing? I'm sorry? Next, I got to tell you this.

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This past week has really been a
big, very successful for NASA. Two

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major events in their asteroid research.
You know. First of all, as

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Mac mentioned, and it has been
all over the news the UH, the

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NASA seven years ago it sent up
a flight UH to an asteroid because they

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wanted to get pieces of an asteroid
and bring it back to Earth so they

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could study it to determine they you
know, they there's always been a something

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in the in the scientific area that
felt that pieces of our beginnings came from

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an asteroid, you know, something
that had impacted the Earth. And so

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one of the reasons that NASA claimed
they were going on this mission was to

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get samples bring it back here so
they could study and to see if there's

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anything that lines up with you know, the beginning of life here on Earth

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and some other things. So it
was very successful, and it's amazing,

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you know that things set out seven
years ago in twenty sixteen to go up

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there, just I don't think it
even landed. The idea was that it

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was going to drop something down,
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dig into the ground, which it
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samples. And the interesting thing was
they said is the asteroid was much softer

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than they expected. So they were
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The important thing about it is that, you know, it now leads to

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another event that happened. I believe
it was yesterday, and so anyways,

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what happened is they went down,
they got the sample. Now they're going

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to sho that with the scientific community
and find out if there's anything there that

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that makes sense. The idea of
beha I was just gonna say real quick.

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The idea being is that when you
say asteroids might be there, and

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the reason for the origin of life
on Earth is that they think that some

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of them might be they might contain
amino acids and stuff like that, which

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are very very you know, important
to life, you know on Earth and

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probably you know the places of the
universe too, And you know, that

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just seems to be almost the way
the universe works. You know, this

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kind of help the skelter of random
stuff. You know, an asteroid hits

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a planet, and billions of years
later we have this, you know.

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So it'd be cool if they were
able to you know, kind of find

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stuff like that out. But go
ahead, Clumb, Sorry, yeah,

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you know, and I'm a big
amino acid person myself is, absolutely,

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especially especially in college. But anyways, I took a college Yeah, absolutely,

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But anyways, this vehicle, this
capsule was called a serious Rex.

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Okay, it's the name of it. So if anyone of Rassia it was

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a serious Now this phase two of
this whole thing is that the serious Rex

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vehicle dropped off that sample and then
it headed back out to the asteroid ap

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office on a new mission. Yes, in case you don't know, Greek

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stands for evil. It stands for
something evil. So I don't like that

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that right away tells you that it's
going to hit us an evil uh asteroid.

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It's a different asteroid than they just
came. What's it in a pickup

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samples again? Do the whole thing
all over again. Yeah, well,

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you know there's I'm questioning some of
the motivation for that. You know,

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they're not being very open about what
it's going to do, exactly what the

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mission is. That's bad man.
In case you know anything about and you

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know my studies on asteroids, Apophus
is one of the asteroids that we have

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been fearing would be impacting the Earth
for years. They've been watching this.

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It gets close to the Earth everyon
fifty or something years, and the next

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time it's going to get about twenty
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That's close. That's very close.
And in fact, when they studied

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it back about twenty years ago,
that was the one they identified as the

408
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:41,279
asteroid that probably has the strongest chance
of hitting the Earth asteroid most likely causing

409
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,359
damage, and the thought was that
that was going to be I believe,

410
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,880
in twenty twenty six. So this
thing is going to that asteroid and they're

411
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,480
being tight lipped about what it's going
to do. Then well, what they're

412
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:56,519
saying is, you know, similar
to the other asteroid. You know,

413
00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:02,319
they're looking at different pieces. They'll
probably take back samples. But I'm sorry,

414
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,759
I'm reading something else into that.
First of all, you know,

415
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:12,119
as I mentioned, they originally thought
that that was going to be the someone

416
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,480
was going to hit the Earth in
the next twenty years. Now they've backed

417
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,599
off that a few years ago and
said, no, you know, now

418
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,039
we don't see it as being a
real threat like we first thought like that,

419
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:30,079
probably not for another hundred years.
What bothers me is this is that

420
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:34,559
they usually crow like crazy, go
overboard, and what some of these things

421
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,440
do and gonn to do, And
that's pretty spectacular when I'm thinking of it.

422
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,039
You shoot this thing out seven years
ago, it goes up the collect

423
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,799
samples, drops them on Earth successfully, and then it goes out for another

424
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:46,759
mission. I mean, that's that's
money we'll spend. That's amazing in a

425
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:52,839
way, but not to tell you
again, it's the motivation that is bothering

426
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,559
me. Now, this is Apophus, just so you know. It's it's

427
00:32:55,559 --> 00:33:00,440
about eleven hundred feet, but it
weighs one hundred and thirty four billion pounds

428
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:07,200
billion pounds. So it's estimated that
if that has an impact on the Earth,

429
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:12,039
it will not be as great as
the dinosaur hit, but it will

430
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:15,240
be like the size of all our
nuclear arsenal going on together. So it's

431
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,400
going to record day. It's the
cave. How do they weigh it the

432
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,839
cable? They know where they weigh
it cable? Well, you know,

433
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:25,480
I'm not a physicist, so I
really don't know, but you know,

434
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:30,200
how do you weigh certain things from
a distance, you know, by I

435
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:36,079
am in a or an in depth
or something. But anyways, the important

436
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,240
thing now that I want to emphasize, we're really going to look forward to

437
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,680
see what this brings back. But
we got to wait another seven years.

438
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,400
That's amazing for that one. Yeah, yeah, so we got Yeah,

439
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:52,559
they got the sample. But this
thing, now, when they looked at

440
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,400
it recently, then they said,
oh, maybe it could have a real

441
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:02,279
good chance of hitting us in twenty
six all all of a sudden they backed

442
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,720
off that. So now I would
say about one hundred years. But the

443
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:10,559
bottom line is that this is eventually
going to impact the Earth. Nobody in

444
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:15,280
the scientific community argues that it's like
I said, it's swinging out there are

445
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,760
twenty thousand miles up there, and
for some reason they say, oh,

446
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,800
it's shifted gravity shifted it a bit. But as we all know, gravity

447
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:31,440
is not something that's real predictable,
particularly now with the climate change and all

448
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:37,000
that it's affecting the atmosphere. Everyone. All I'm saying is, and as

449
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:44,199
I've worn you folks in the past, there's some real scary things going on

450
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:50,360
with asteroids up there. Our government
is spending all this money again another example

451
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,920
that you know they're putting them money
with him out there. So I'm confirmed,

452
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,519
you know what I mean, concerned
about this one up there. Now,

453
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:05,719
popas that is, maybe they they're
not going to tell us that maybe

454
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,880
it is going to hit us in
twenty or thirty years, even in forty

455
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,920
years you know, that's forty six
years. That's a lot of people are

456
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,960
still going to be around here,
well, you know, always on the

457
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:21,559
beach from I'm just alerting everyone to
keep the air out on all these things

458
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,679
that maybe we'll hit the other side
of the earth. Now, play what

459
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,599
the purpose is? So yeah,
yeah, I mean if they send me

460
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:35,360
to being tight left about sending a
spacecraft too asteroid that translates into evil and

461
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,599
they're not really and tell them us
what it's about, and this is the

462
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,880
one most likely to hit us,
then I'm a little and a suspicious.

463
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,679
Really, let's face it, is
that the asteroid that's coming in underneath the

464
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,239
satellites. It's he been coming in
lower than the sun. Yes, it's

465
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,079
only twenty thousand yeah, miles up. That's dangerous. Well, they call

466
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:59,599
it a fly by, so everything
comes up there, we have a fly

467
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,639
by, and the concern is that
one of these fly bys is going to

468
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:07,400
get turned into a drive. So
it's just it sounds like nobody's denying that

469
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:13,159
itself. It's just a matter of
time switching. Oh so anyways, would

470
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:15,960
I just wanted to alert you to
that, thank you, And I'm trying

471
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,000
out of the way to talk to, trying to give you information about it.

472
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,599
I wish I could be more positive. It's it's you can. You

473
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:29,280
can the first DOT mission of last
year or earlier this year, they did

474
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,480
prove it took a long time to
get up to this kind of meandering asteroid,

475
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:38,360
and they did prove that they could
alter its trajectory. Okay by just

476
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,519
kind of hitting it, like hitting
the pool ball is going to you know,

477
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,239
but it was a very small by
what six inches or something? Yeah,

478
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,519
yeah, it moved. It moved, you know, But how you

479
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:52,280
move something that's you know, eleven
hundred feet and you know, zillion billion

480
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,400
pounds. I don't know. But
listen, before we get the segments,

481
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:58,840
especially, I want to go right
to you really quick. Thank you club

482
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,760
for that. Let's let's clap.
We don't clap a club enough. And

483
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:08,400
that's what his text says. Club. Thanks well, thank you, thank

484
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,480
you. Switch. You have something
coming up because you please explain to us

485
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,079
is the van Meter conference. You're
going to be the MC tell us what

486
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:20,360
happened at van Meter? It sounds
like the name of a game show host.

487
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:30,119
Frankly, what happened to me?
Turning your microphone there? Switchy Switchy,

488
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:34,360
Mike, Mike, Mike switching,
waving to him frantically, Yes,

489
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,599
let me start earlier. And I
assumed that you wouldn't want to hear that.

490
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:40,440
Okay, well you never know,
so listen, let me just start

491
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,920
again. Okay, So Switchy,
you have a conference coming up called the

492
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:49,760
van Meta Conference. You're going to
be the MC tell us what's happening there

493
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,639
or festival? Okay, and what
is Van Meter anywhere? As I said

494
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,760
before to no laughs, sounds like
a talk show host, game show host

495
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:04,559
met rand and with Van Veda.
Yeah, it started with a book written

496
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,480
by Chad Lewis, Noa Voss and
Kevin Nelson. They uncovered this interesting piece

497
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,000
of call it folklore, call it
history from nineteen oh three and Van Meter,

498
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,159
Iowa. Van Meter is just west
of Des Moines, and they call

499
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:21,000
it the Week of Terror. The
last weekend in September, the townspeople started

500
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,280
seeing this sort of a terodactyl like
creature in town. It had some very

501
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,119
very strange properties. It had a
beak and a horn, and on the

502
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:36,280
end of the horn it seemed like
it had a light that were just it

503
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,400
was giving off its own lights somehow. In fact, one of the early

504
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,599
sightings of this thing, it was
moving along the top of a building,

505
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,400
and they thought it was a burglar
with a flashlight. And so as time

506
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,440
went on. Now, one of
the things when I met Chad Lewis and

507
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,360
Kevin Nelson, the first thing I
asked him, I said, well,

508
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,159
was could this have been a some
kind of a stunt put on by some

509
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:02,400
of the townspeople. And they said
it seemed unlikely because so many prominent citizens

510
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,239
saw this thing, including a bank
manager he was actually worried about because of

511
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:14,239
the the the rumors about there being
a burglar or whatever. He went and

512
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,440
stayed the night at the bank and
then he saw this creature outside the window

513
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,840
and took a shot at it with
a shotgun. There was another another person

514
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,039
that uh, and and and this
is I always say here insert your own

515
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:32,239
joke. He was looking at it
through a second story window and he saw

516
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,239
this thing and it kind of exuded
or gave off some kind of vapor.

517
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Again insert your own joke here.
But what happened as a result was he

518
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:45,039
had missing time. So here you
have this creature. It's it's generating its

519
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:51,559
own light somehow and also creating missing
time again. I'm you know, I'm

520
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,400
going to raise the specter of John
Keel. John Keel thought that he wasn't

521
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,559
so interested in the manifestations anymore,
whether as a craft or whether it was

522
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:05,840
a creature. He was more interested
in the cosmic mechanism behind it. And

523
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,800
one wonders if if this was the
Van Meter Visitor were just some kind of

524
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:15,840
a manifestation, although it also acted
very much like a flesh and blood creature.

525
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,239
One guy saw it sitting on top
of a telephone pole and it climbed

526
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,119
down the pole using its beak in
the same way you'll see a parrot do

527
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,559
it in a cage. So and
then when it when it went to take

528
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,559
off, it was running and flapping
its wings and flapping its wings and took

529
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,360
took a while hit enough airspeed to
to actually get up and take off.

530
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:39,119
It was the last time they saw
it where it was near the old mines.

531
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:45,159
Chad Lewis takes you on a walking
tour of the week Week of Terror

532
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:47,760
and it describes, you know what, what all the buildings used to be

533
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,639
and all the different incidents. And
it has grown from a from a kind

534
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:57,440
of a humble festival to a much
bigger festival, and it's uh it's it's

535
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:01,199
really really great. A lot of
great people there and uh it's I've been

536
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:05,400
going there for years now. I
have spoken there a few times as well,

537
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,800
and we've got another another good list
of speakers and people just always have

538
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,239
a good time at the Van Meter
Visitor Festival. Okay, and you're on

539
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,800
the MC right MC, that's right, MC, switchy. I love it.

540
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,199
Let'sten you were there lost year to
right switch? Yes, all right,

541
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,719
switching you would. Let's clap for
Switchy because now I'm going to get

542
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:32,239
letters from him because that was a
little louder than clubs class. There you

543
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,880
go. I'm just, you know, not much. I don't need clapping.

544
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,440
I can tell unless people look at
me. Are you saying you already

545
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,639
what I talk about? Well,
you need reinforcement. I don't listen listen.

546
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:55,840
Oh wow, you're saying you already
have the clap years ago without a

547
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,840
busy on that note, don't Oh
you take a quick commercial break. Now

548
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,400
you're listening to Maclone's Milt tracks.
I show here in the Distant Thunderradio Network.

549
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565
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to backlone. He's mil trak saw
show here in the distance under radio networried.

566
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:14,960
This is macclone and well show we
have here tonight. Very quickly,

567
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,559
the members of the posse include for
a famous one one money. Hello,

568
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:22,280
everybody, welcome back to the show. It's been a fun show so far.

569
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,519
Mack wand you to be here,
by the way, Have you had

570
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:30,199
fish and chips lately? Yeah?
Yeah, some awesome fish and chips and

571
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,199
one of the most haunted restaurants in
the UK. Cool. You can't beat

572
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,480
that. It's in the heart of
the smuggler territory. Did you tip?

573
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,840
You tip? I do? Okay, that's good idea. If they can

574
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,000
put up with it, they work
the extra money. Also with us is

575
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,440
a national correspondent down there in West
Virginia, switch Blade Steve, but switchy,

576
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,880
how you doing. I am beyond
wonderful. Great to be here tonight.

577
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,159
I'll swatch security chief is with us, will he uh Willie? Well,

578
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:06,519
Marc. I'm not being wonderful,
but I'm really feeling pretty good to

579
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,000
night, and I feel like again, I'm, you know, picking up

580
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:14,360
some more information that things I didn't
know before. So that's what it's about.

581
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,719
Yeah, that's a lot for me. I feel like a sponge tonight.

582
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:22,239
Good. Okay, there's a joke
in there somewhere. Yeah, I

583
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,920
feel like a sponge case. It's
only a two hour show, all right.

584
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:30,920
Also in the studio with us tonight
is and now and you're a full

585
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,679
mechanic hour now and they'll also get
away drive. Also a ghost hunter volunteer

586
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:43,239
ghost Hunt just minutes Marc everyone uh. And also a good friend, doctor

587
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,079
Bob Gross out there in Chicago,
toddling as of a hello boys and girl.

588
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,480
However, how are you, doctor
Bob? What's happening? Oh?

589
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,960
The weather's changing a bit now.
Really it goes back raining as much as

590
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,960
it did. It rained all morning
today so far what you should be used

591
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:07,400
to it? You're the London of
America. That's also with us. We

592
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:15,320
have to behave ourselves. Is Stephanie
mcnewll. She is of the highly spiritual

593
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:21,639
podcast Spiritual. Why am I saying
that? Okay, let me start again?

594
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,800
Also with us, Wow, we're
eating almonds tonight. Maybe that wasn't

595
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,840
a good idea? Has some kind
of effect on us. Also joining us

596
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,480
tonight, we're having a lot of
problems. I mean, just to be

597
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,760
fair about it, we're having a
lot of problems here tonight technical wise,

598
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:45,760
with the wires and stuff and seeing
ghosts is just you know, part of

599
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:52,840
it. Also joining us tonight is
Stephanie McNew from the Highly Spirited podcast.

600
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:58,920
Is that correct, Stephanie? It
is? Let's clap for me please if

601
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,800
you don't want, thank you.
Happy to be here, Stephanie. Where

602
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,440
are you in the country? Indianapolis, Indiana? Really right in the middle,

603
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:10,039
uh, right in the snacktob middle. I'm not a cult fan,

604
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:15,039
are you? Are you a cult
fan? I'm married to one, but

605
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,639
I'm more of a New Orleans fan. Like New Orleans. It's like,

606
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,159
so I'm still reading for them.
Okay, that's right. So hey,

607
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:29,639
they'll come back, you know.
So anyway, So, so you have

608
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:35,880
a podcast and you talk about tell
us. Yeah, so in my podcast,

609
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:39,280
I pair cocktails with ghost stories,
so it's always like cocktails, right,

610
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,199
But I wanted to know the history
of them, so I do deep

611
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,840
dives and like, where the hell
did this come from? Why is it

612
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,880
called this? And because I want
to know because there's some funny cocktails out

613
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,599
there. So I do the history
of them. Yes, then I go

614
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:54,880
to break and then I tell a
ghost story. If they're from the same

615
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,719
area, I try to pair them
together, like this cocktail came from New

616
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,199
England, and so I want to
do a New England ghost story where this

617
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,920
one came from Savannah. So I'm
doing a Savanna cocktail too. So I

618
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:08,760
try to pair things together where they
make sense. But it's always a cocktail

619
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,519
in a ghost story or multiple ghost
stories if they're short ones. Okay,

620
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,760
thinking on a second, Okay,
I just want to make sure you're standing

621
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,639
cocktails right, as in drinks and
so on. Oh yeah, drink Okay,

622
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:27,440
where have you been? Allow love
so so so? So you can

623
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:31,159
actually match a cocktail to a certain
ghost story, is that what we're saying?

624
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:37,119
You can? That's what I try
to do. So because a lot

625
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,840
of cocktails, they say, oh, it was invented here in like eighteen

626
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,079
whatever, nineteen something, So there's
always a history behind a lot of them.

627
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,559
They had to be somewhere. So
I tried to find a ghost story

628
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:52,119
that was also probably the same place. What's a ghost story behind them?

629
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:58,280
Like a shot at Jack for instance, I quick and bloody, but I

630
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,800
did do a Jack and Coke,
which of course started in Tennessee. So

631
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,880
I've heard it with the bell which
I think a lot of people are aware

632
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,760
of the Bellwich, but I caught
it, goot story. So if I

633
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,079
can't do the city specifically, I
will do the state. Okay, I

634
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:15,800
can. How about Boston? There
must be a lot of I haven't done

635
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,280
Boston yet honestly to pick from.
Yeah, okay, okay, mag I

636
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,039
found one that I got to jump
on maybe tomorrow, maybe tonight when the

637
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:30,880
show's over. It's that Tequila Sunrise
and Haunted Arizona. Yeah. So the

638
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,719
Tequila Sunrise is interesting because it was
a favorite of Mick Jagger and he kind

639
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,679
of brought life to it during one
of their US tours. Really, do

640
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:45,159
you think the Eagles of Someone did
it? You know, the Eagles weren't

641
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:50,159
involved in this one either where they
or slightly. It was also a favorite

642
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,639
of theirs, Yes, yes,
what's a favorite of all of us?

643
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,840
Yes? So, well that's that's
interesting. So so on the on the

644
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,039
podcast, you say, tonight we're
going to be talking about this ghost story

645
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:06,400
in footlot of the only you should
be having a you know, Miami Minosa

646
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:08,440
or something like it. Right,
yeah, so that's exactly it. So

647
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:13,440
I'll share history and I'll give you
a recipe. So if you want to

648
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,039
make it while I go to break, you can have it while I'm telling

649
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:19,280
a good story. Wow. And
by the how how long is your podcast?

650
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,880
An hour? Two hours? It
varies, so I try to shoot

651
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,159
for an easy thirty minutes, summer
shorter, summer longer, depending on the

652
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,440
subject matter. So is everyone kind
of shit faced at the end of it?

653
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:36,960
As the kids saying? Oh?
The problem is sometimes I get that

654
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:42,280
way because I'm like, I have
one too. Yeah. We've known to

655
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,159
see ghosts after we've had a few. Oh that's great, yeah yeah,

656
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,559
yeah, yeah, yes, so
so but you're into ghosts, right,

657
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:52,360
you're into ghosts, right, yeah, so really into them. I think

658
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,920
that I've seen a couple in my
lifetime. So yeah, if it's on

659
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:59,920
it or spooky, I definitely want
to visit it. I want to see

660
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:04,079
it. Okay, I'm not so
into ghost hunting with the equipment, but

661
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,280
I want to go and somebody say, hey, so and so lived here,

662
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,360
here's what happened to them. That's
why we think their spirits still here.

663
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:14,079
So I like the story behind things, of course, so that scientific

664
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,719
parts. Have you heard the story
about the ghost in our radio station where

665
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,199
we are right now? Where were
we talking about that? Off here?

666
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,039
No can tell me. Okay,
So and this just happened like about twenty

667
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:28,000
minutes ago. Stuff always happens.
We're in a radio station. I think

668
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,760
I explained this hopefully is off here. We're in a radio station that is

669
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,159
in a house that looks like any
other house in the suburban part of Exit

670
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,519
in New Hampshire. Okay, you
wouldn't know a radio station was here.

671
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:44,480
Do you see the big tower?
So anyway it The guy who was the

672
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,920
engineer here lived next door to the
place for thirty years. That's all he

673
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:52,039
did. He walked twenty feet and
he was at work and he was just

674
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:54,400
like this great engineer, you know, gave his sweat, let's wit and

675
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,480
tears to the place. And he
died here. And he died here,

676
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:05,079
so we you know, died in
the building. In the building, yeah,

677
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:12,639
I think downstairs and downstairs when we
moved we were at another radio station.

678
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,400
We moved up here, and I
think it's twenty seventeen. It must

679
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,440
have been right. I can't remember
back that we would see stuff, you

680
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,800
know, they were doing the place
over. You know, there's stuff we

681
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,519
talked bad about Bob and goes.
The lights would go out and one one

682
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:30,519
saw someone walking through once. And
what's really creepy is that the front door.

683
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,000
If you come in the front door, you hear a bell ring,

684
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:36,199
you know, and sometimes we'll hear
people in the building. We don't hear

685
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,480
the bell ring. Sometimes we hear
the bell ring and no one's here.

686
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:42,880
Okay, So yeah, that's why
we have the bell not ring when you

687
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,440
open that door just right right.
It's as simple as that. We've searched

688
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,400
this place many many times. And
Alan and I just searched it again really

689
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,119
about a half hour ago, because
you know, he saw our shadow in

690
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,159
the hall. So we got to
pull everything to a halt and go around

691
00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:00,159
with our golf clubs, you know, looking for people. We're the only

692
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:06,639
two people. We're the only ghost
unting equipment you use. Yes, yeah,

693
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:14,440
golf club and would that's a problem. I don't know about golf,

694
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,800
but I know one of them.
Wood. So, Stephanie, how long

695
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,599
have you been doing this? So
I started this about a year and a

696
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,679
half ago. I've always been interested
in it, but it was like,

697
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,519
let's actually do it. So yeah, I think April of last year I

698
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:36,679
started right and and do you know, uh, the skew of your audience

699
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,119
and they know what your audience,
you know, what's the what's the I'm

700
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:43,079
not trying to say it, you
know what I mean? I mean,

701
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,920
is it? Is it mostly let's
say women in there for whatties or whatever.

702
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,559
It kind of kind of is so
a lot of women, and then

703
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:53,119
there's none that surprised me. There
are guys that are not like they'd be

704
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:55,800
like I'll get a message on Instagram
and be like, hey, I listened

705
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,280
today. It was great, and
like you don't take me for the kind

706
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,360
of person that care about cocktails or
ghosts, but thank you for listening.

707
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,920
Oh that's cool. Some surprised me, but yeah, lots of like middle

708
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,559
aged women are kind of the audience
I have. Yep, Okay, all

709
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:12,719
right, that's great. And what
is it weekly? Yeah? Weekly?

710
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,880
Every Friday comes out Fridays at midnight. Oh that's at midnight. Okay,

711
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:22,239
that's nice. Sure. So when
did you you know, when did you

712
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,719
become interested in ghosts as a kid
or something? Did you see one as

713
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,119
a kid or yeah, as a
kid. So we lived in this farmhouse.

714
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,800
It was a rental. My parents
moved into beautiful house, great property,

715
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,400
great place to grow up. I
swore it was haunted. So since

716
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,320
I've been nine years old and I've
been like, ghosts exist. I've seen

717
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,320
them my whole life, almost my
whole life at this point. So what

718
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,519
do you think they are? I
think I think they're just spirits. I

719
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:52,519
think they're energy because some I think
they're just people that never left. They

720
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:57,199
got confused, maybe they don't know
they should have left. Others I think

721
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,280
are residual energy, especially if it's
a battle feeld there's something traumatic. I

722
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:07,280
just think that energy replays a lot
sometimes even it stays around like residual Yeah,

723
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:12,400
yep, it just never left.
It still there does something? Are

724
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,960
they friendly? Yeah? Are they
friendly? And some? I mean I

725
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:22,039
think I think what they were in
life, they probably are in the afterlife

726
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:23,960
too. So if they were like
this hateful, evil person, they're probably

727
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:28,360
not a nice ghost. If they
were you know, normal, easy going,

728
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,400
probably an okay ghost. Well that's
a good way to explain it.

729
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,239
I never thought of it that way. But but why do why do you

730
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,400
think. I mean, there's and
there's no way of a knowing, But

731
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:40,239
why do you think that some get
confused and some don't. Yeah, personally,

732
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,119
I think it's an acceptance thing,
you know, like some I just

733
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:49,000
think I didn't die. I don't
know I died. They just never clicked

734
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,960
that they should have crossed over,
so they just haven't. So they're just

735
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:55,360
here not knowing they're gone. And
like say, if it's an old house,

736
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:59,480
they're probably like, why are these
people moving into my house? It's

737
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:02,440
still my house? Why they're making
a racket knocking things off the shelves,

738
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:06,280
Like why are you in my house? See? That's what That's what's funny,

739
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,159
is like it's almost like two kinds
or two main kinds. First of

740
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:13,159
all, is like you've seen I've
seen videos of stuff flying around houses and

741
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,239
kitchens and stuff. Man, it's
really weird. And you would say,

742
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,400
in no way they're faking this.
There's just the way they're faking it anyway.

743
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,000
Is that? But then when you
go to these battlefields that switchy One

744
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:28,320
said on the show, it looks
like it looks like a piece of film

745
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,480
that's caught in a loop. You
know what I mean, and I can

746
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:34,920
almost see, well, there's something
who knows what it is, you know,

747
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,800
between the mention who knows what it
is? But it's almost like they're

748
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,639
caught there. You really get that
idea that they're caught there, other than

749
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:43,880
the person throwing stuff around in a
haunted house, you know. So there's

750
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:49,320
got to be different kinds of different
kinds of you know, hauntings, whatever,

751
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:52,880
ghosts or whatever, like like what
you're saying, like residual and imprints

752
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,119
as opposed to something more conscious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

753
00:56:55,239 --> 00:57:00,760
funny. I remember we talked about, you know, Roman soldiers seen in

754
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:05,599
people during renovation on buildings in England
somewhere, and they see a troop of

755
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,960
Roman soldiers walk by, and they're
where they're walking. Isn't necessarily that the

756
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:14,280
actual floor level. They might be
higher or lower, but it's where they

757
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,599
were. I have a question for
Stephan on that line. If you do

758
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:22,599
you accept that there are probably some
hauntings that are merely imprints that are not

759
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:28,159
really conscious fond hauntings for whatever reason, people die and leave some kind of

760
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,039
energy behind that kind of repeats itself. Yeah, I do, And I

761
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:37,039
think I would almost call them a
time loop like they're stuck, and they

762
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:39,239
might not. They don't consciously know
they're stuck. It just replays. Like

763
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,440
you said, it's like a film, it's like rewatching the same thing over

764
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:46,199
and over again. I definitely think
that's a type of haunting that we see

765
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:51,360
pretty often, but I think it's
more where there was trauma, like a

766
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,239
battlefield is a great example, and
it is in some cases. Do you

767
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,039
think their soul or essence has moved
on, but for some reason they still

768
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:07,360
leave some kind of an imprint on
the atmosphere or somehow that repiece itself but

769
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,280
it's not really them. Yeah,
I do, especially when it's like that,

770
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:15,519
I think those souls have moved on
to wherever they were going, but

771
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:20,000
there was just so much energy there
right like it was a battle or it

772
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,760
was a train wreck. There was
so much energy there. That energy just

773
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:28,679
hasn't dissipated or gone somewhere else.
And one thing I wonder is that if

774
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,159
it occasionally somebody leaves an imprint behind. And when we think of the tradition

775
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:37,079
of Tulpa's the slender Man phenomena that
was supposed to have been created out of

776
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:46,280
the Internet, I wonder if those
imprints can somehow become interactive sometimes as if

777
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:51,119
they are that person, but their
actual soul or essence has moved on.

778
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,079
There's no way to prove or disprove
that. But I just wonder if sometimes

779
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,840
we're not really dealing with a conscious
haunting, we're dealing with something that has

780
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,079
sort of evolved from an imprint.
Yeah, like it's something that manifests into

781
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:05,840
something else. Because it's funny you
brought up slender Man. I was watching

782
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,920
something the other day, don't remember
if it's YouTube or TikTok, But slender

783
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,360
Man isn't a new phenomenon like we
thought it was born of the Internet.

784
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:17,199
Like twenty twelve reports that thing had
been around since the eighteen hundreds. It

785
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,400
just kind of became a new phenomenon
in like this millennia for whatever reason.

786
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,960
But I do you know, it
could have been around forever. Listen.

787
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:29,760
That creeps me out that of all
these weird things floating around out there.

788
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:32,000
And Raven two bitch, she's not
on tonight because she really knows a lot

789
00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:38,320
about these just painting really crazy stuff, you know, But Sliderman makes Bob

790
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,119
look nice and country. Yeah,
slender Man is a very, very just

791
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:49,239
I had some interesting poldergeist activity when
I was in New Mexico. It was

792
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:55,159
called the Double Eagle Hotel in Old
Messilla, New Mexico. Okay, go

793
00:59:55,239 --> 01:00:00,440
ahead, it was. It makes
a story really short, but I was

794
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:07,079
there for a meeting. Yes,
and it's it's an old vamped hotel where

795
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:09,760
like Billy the Kid and those people
used to hang out. Yes, and

796
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:15,239
it's called Double Eagle Hotel in Old
Messia, New Mexico. And I was

797
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:20,960
leaving the get together that we had. This is after we had seen a

798
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:25,920
ghost in the mirror in the dining
room. Okay, we'd seen that I

799
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:31,239
was in the look like it was
just a flash of like it was like

800
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,239
a grayish white, almost like like
you'd see a sheet. He was in

801
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,440
that mirror, you know, and
several of us saw it appear and disappear.

802
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:45,079
That it was a huge mirror.
But when we were I was leaving

803
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:50,559
and I went to use the restroom, and the restroom had all these old

804
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,599
furnishings in it, and an old
sink and an old uh paper you know,

805
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,719
it wasn't a paper towel, but
it was like a cloth towel dryer

806
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,679
on the wall, and so forth. So I went in and again to

807
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,840
make a long short story short,
uh, I'd use the urin all.

808
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,719
And I was washing my hands in
the sink, and then another man he

809
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,320
was in the in the stall and
he had come out. He was waiting

810
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,159
to use the sink, okay,
And I was washing my hands, and

811
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,360
I was standing right ready to reach
out. You know how they have those

812
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:27,320
big towels They come out of those
old yes with a crank. Yes,

813
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:30,840
I went to crank, and they
cranked itself out to towels for me.

814
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:37,400
I never even touched her. And
the guy that was waiting for the towels,

815
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:42,360
he wiped his hands in his pants
and ran out. How about that

816
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:46,000
A thoughtful Yeah, was trying to
tell you, Wow, that's bhasy.

817
01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:52,280
But see that's a weird thing though. Why would they hang around old places?

818
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,960
You know what I mean, Stephanie
White? I mean, are there

819
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:59,159
haunted condominiums? That is a great
name for a book, the haunted condominium

820
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,079
You know what I mean? Yeah, So there is I forget its real

821
01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:07,719
name, the corn Cob Towers in
Chicago. They're not old by any means,

822
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,599
are not even one hundred years old. Those are very haunted. Do

823
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:15,039
you call it again, Stephanie.
The corn Cob Towers. They have a

824
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:20,639
real name. It's something Marina.
They're on the Chicago River. Did people

825
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,719
die in there? Is there a
reason for the haunt? Like there was

826
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,239
death there or there was lots of
deaths, lots of suicides, lots of

827
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,199
general bad blocks and those things were
built. Yeah, funny, funny.

828
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,559
There's a place in whether there's the
Damas State Hospital, which we talked about

829
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,400
probably too much here, but there's
a place near there. I think it's

830
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,960
called Pabd Meadows or something. It's
just one of these things along one of

831
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,400
the main routes coming out of Boston
on twenty eight and you know, it's

832
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:55,159
just a thousand apartments in seven or
eight buildings. And I think that there's

833
01:02:55,239 --> 01:03:00,719
been I don't know, maybe up
to ten people been killed there over the

834
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,559
years working on the place. They
had a fire there ones Do you remember

835
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:07,840
this club They had a fire with
the in the They say it started in

836
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:13,119
a pilot leaves and it wiped out
like half of the half of the place

837
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,119
and none of the people had had
insurance yet, and it was like really

838
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:21,679
a mess. It just seems this
place, you know, kind of cursed

839
01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:23,639
in a way, you know,
but you have a haunt economy and that's

840
01:03:23,679 --> 01:03:25,920
cool. Hey, listen, why
don't we do this, Stephanie, Can

841
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,039
you hang around with us for a
while? Yeah, of course. Okay,

842
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:31,559
all right, why don't we take
a quick bick now, and we'll

843
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:36,159
be right back after this, we'll
come down regroup. You're listening to macloney's

844
01:03:36,159 --> 01:03:38,559
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845
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861
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,960
This is Mac and Arney. Well, what a show we have for you

862
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:41,280
tonight. Very quickly the co Conspirators
girls, she's here, one one across

863
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,039
the play girls. Hello, everybody, welcome back to the show. It's

864
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,920
been a fun, wacky show tonight. It's been wacky. Wacky is the

865
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,519
exact word for him. Uh,
speaking of wacky down there in West Virginia

866
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:57,440
is a natural correspondent Switch plays Steve
Wood. Great to be here tonight,

867
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,400
Matt, what you have meat loaf? Today. Is that what you said

868
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,840
your head? I had for brush. I had meat lot with mashed potatoes

869
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,440
and gravy and corn. Yeah.
Nice, okay. And they gave me

870
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:09,079
a huge biscuit which which I didn't
eat. I took it home. Yes,

871
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,320
it's in the refrigerator. I had
to have a couple of neighbors helped

872
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,480
me carry it in because she's big. Is that big? The size of

873
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:19,719
the rocket gibralture they make there.
I love who it is, you know,

874
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,639
that's to go to that place.
Think about the army song that the

875
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:26,639
biscuits in the army. They say
they're mighty fine. One rolled off the

876
01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:29,800
table and killed the peal of mines. This thing hits the floor. You

877
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,119
want to be out of the way. Maybe a cat will be passing underneath.

878
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:39,599
Would not be ironic anyway. Also
is with us as security chief Willie

879
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:44,119
club w C. Hey, Mac, I everyone great to be here.

880
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,400
It's tough sometime follow and switch.
You know. I just can't keep up

881
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,800
with him. He said so much
going on in his life, that's so

882
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:58,559
far. I just I'm so impressed. I just that's the cut. I

883
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:02,199
mean, wow, first, and
you know, B to B what kind

884
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:05,119
of dunk Food. I look forward
to the this is my night out,

885
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:09,679
you know, yes, usually have
a basket of dunk Food near you.

886
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:14,880
Do you have anything tonight to tease
us? Let's say, got any takies

887
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:23,320
tonight? Watch this? What's he
got? Oh? I love that stuff?

888
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,760
It was made within twenty miles of
here. Yeah, yeah they're still

889
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,320
around. That's good to know.
Also want thank you very much. Now

890
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:35,119
I'm starving like crazy. And and
oh oh I love those cookies. Yeah

891
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:41,079
they're great. Yeah those are good. Wow. Huh, I see you

892
01:07:41,159 --> 01:07:46,960
know you got me going. Let's
I need some. I'm having a party

893
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:49,440
tonight. Yeah, I'm going to
show you what I got from this again.

894
01:07:50,119 --> 01:07:54,440
And you got your doctor's number on
speed dollar. Oh we just happened

895
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,880
to have a doctor with us,
Doctor Bobs, how you doing send me

896
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,320
one of those cheeses? Yeah?
Yeah, okay, look adoked Bob out

897
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:09,199
there in Chicago and also joining us
from Indianapolis, is is Stephanie Mnau of

898
01:08:09,559 --> 01:08:15,639
Spirited Highly Spirited podcast? Right yep? Okay, guys, and you came

899
01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:20,000
up with the brilliant idea of matching
ghosts with cocktails, right, Yeah,

900
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,920
I don't know how brilliant it is, but it entertains me, and I'm

901
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,760
hoping it's entertaining other people. I
think it's genius. You can wow,

902
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,720
that's cool. So basically what you
do is like that. If you're let's

903
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,079
say you haven't done bust and yet, good luck when you do that.

904
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:38,239
But you know, if you're in
LA's in your interest in this ghost,

905
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:42,399
this is the cocktail that goes with
this haunting or whatever. Right, Yeah,

906
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,520
and I died, well, I
did part of LA. I did

907
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,039
Haunted Hollywood and there's a there's actually
a Marilyn Monroe cocktail, so that one

908
01:08:48,119 --> 01:08:53,199
I have done. What is the
Maryland is a Saint Patrick's cocktail. You'll

909
01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:57,000
have to go to the website and
look for that one. Okay, what

910
01:08:57,159 --> 01:09:00,439
is the Merril Monroe cocktail? Do
you remember? That's not a shot at

911
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,880
Jack, isn't gosh? I don't
remember. I can look it up while

912
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:08,720
we guys away from me. I
don't remember on today. Yeah, I

913
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,439
wouldn't be surprised. You know what
it was. I'll have to check out

914
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,960
the the old Worth and Low Mass
did I introduced alvenwdo get away drive on?

915
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:21,720
It goes something? It doesn't The
Old Worthings where Jack Kerouac used to

916
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:27,880
drink and uh low. Edgar Allan
Poe was supposed to have penned part of

917
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,560
the Raven while sitting at the bar
at the Old Worth. Wow. So

918
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:36,159
it's a very old bar and low
mass dump it. Well they've really redone

919
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:39,560
it these days. Yeah. Back
when I was a kid, you could

920
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,159
go in there and get a hot
dog boiled in beer for twenty five cents.

921
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,279
Yeah, and draft beers were about
a quarter low area. Yes,

922
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:50,159
yeah, yeah, so again you
know it's the old worthing was slated to

923
01:09:50,199 --> 01:09:59,159
be torn down until someone figured out
it had historical uh you know yeah passed

924
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,680
so and showed Edgar Allan Poe and
Jack Kerouac and some other people that were

925
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:09,760
pretty famous. So maybe Poe has
a drink. Did they tip you know?

926
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:14,800
Never more in Baltimore. Yeah,
I would love to do him.

927
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,960
I'm a big fan of him.
Him and Baltimore. Maybe if I can

928
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,199
find a cocktail that inter twice,
it's definitely stories I want to deal.

929
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:27,840
There is a this then this actually
happens every year on his either his birthday

930
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:31,720
or the day he died. Someone
lays a bouquet of roses. I think

931
01:10:32,359 --> 01:10:36,960
yellow roses at his gravestone in in
the cemetery, which I think is right

932
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:42,560
in the middle of Baltimore. And
no one has ever like caught this person

933
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,119
or chased them or anything. It's
like really weird, but it's been going

934
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:49,520
on for obviously it's being passed down
because it's been going on for a very

935
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:55,920
very long time. You know,
there's a weird dude. Man more weirdness

936
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,399
to add to the weirdness. He
lived. So I like what this happens.

937
01:10:59,399 --> 01:11:01,119
I wish say who it was.
But that's kind of the funny part

938
01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:03,319
of the mystery is no one knows. Well, see, you would think

939
01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:08,680
these days that you know, some
tabloid news channel would tackle a person or

940
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,920
something, you know, camera somewhere
just we know, they know the day

941
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,479
is coming. Let's set up a
camera or something at the very least.

942
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,399
Yeah, one thing. Yeah yeah. So anyway, so this is what

943
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,640
we're going to do this segment,
is that you know, we what do

944
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:24,439
you think of UFOs? Stephanie.
So, I do believe in UFOs,

945
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:29,439
and I definitely think there's other creatures
out there and other galaxies, other planets.

946
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:36,600
I do think that they are like
extraterrestrials and they're visiting. They want

947
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:42,159
to meet us. Yeah, I
definitely think UFOs are out there want to

948
01:11:42,199 --> 01:11:44,880
meet us. I think they're curious
about us, or that they see that

949
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,840
we're a hot mess and we're like, hell no, we're going to turn

950
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,159
her out to leave. I'd be
another thing too, it'd be like that.

951
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:51,079
It'd be like the town on the
throughway you don't get off at But

952
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,840
do you think that they have ghosts? Not that exit you going? Do

953
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,720
you think that aliens have ghosts?
I mean they must Why would it be

954
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,279
just us? Right? Yeah,
I mean I think if they're like energetic

955
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:08,039
beings with souls, then yeah,
why wouldn't they have those? Well that'd

956
01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:12,279
be crazy. So anyway, so
lately, what's happened is that NASA,

957
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,880
as someone said before one won't said
before, and all of a sudden,

958
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,119
NASA is everywhere. And one of
the things that they're doing is they've put

959
01:12:19,159 --> 01:12:26,760
together this committee finally to look into
UFO cases, Okay, sightings and so

960
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,560
on. And when it first came
out and then we commented on the show

961
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,760
about and saying, well, what
are they going to do? They're going

962
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,800
to look at stuff that isn't top
secret, isn't classified, and so on.

963
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,359
But now it turns out, you
know, and you always follow the

964
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,600
money, that they got a bunch
of money, and now they're going to

965
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:48,159
turn into it take to artificial intelligence
to literally sweep the sky and identify everything

966
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,239
around the planet. I guess I
don't know, so, Bob, how's

967
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:58,119
that? Fortise? Yeah, that's
great, thank you. It's a wild

968
01:12:58,319 --> 01:13:00,560
night. I'll tell you here with
this show. It was especially we started

969
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,600
out with a presentation on NASA.
Yes, do that, okay, go

970
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,279
ahead, But but you but you
you you were really kind of involved in

971
01:13:10,319 --> 01:13:15,560
it, right, Yes, well, actually I started out my you know,

972
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:20,000
professional career as a professional, like
classically trained musician. Yes, okay,

973
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:25,199
But then when it was uh,
I started like in nineteen eighty you

974
01:13:25,279 --> 01:13:30,520
know, NASA is NASA. I'm
sorry, it's NASA. It is a

975
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,680
government agency, a federal government agency. And then in nineteen eighty I first

976
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:40,479
started working at the Penn State Center
for Acoustics, and that's when I was

977
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,319
introduced to the Space Shuttle and they
were that team that I was working with

978
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,920
was working on problems at the Space
Shuttle, NASA's Space shuttle back then yep,

979
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:55,159
okay, sure, then yes,
go ahead. So I sort of

980
01:13:55,279 --> 01:13:59,000
had like an you know, a
liking for them back and then at that

981
01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:02,159
time and then back in nineteen ninety
two is when I became actually a government

982
01:14:02,319 --> 01:14:08,319
agent, and I was working on
something called the Transdisciplinary Technology Team, so

983
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:13,600
NASA at times was involved in that. And then I started also, you

984
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,479
know, working with the Ohio Department
of Education. And then I started working

985
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:24,399
in Washington, d C. What
it was called a it was a not

986
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,479
a A. It was called a
dual agent, not a double agent.

987
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,239
I wasn't a spire or go ahead, yes. And then I was working

988
01:14:30,279 --> 01:14:33,720
in Oklahoma City with the National Science
Foundation. So I had a lot of

989
01:14:34,039 --> 01:14:38,840
things going on with the NASSA in
the past, including in two thousand and

990
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:44,239
six. In two thousand and seven, I was helping them select astronauts for

991
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:49,840
their ares Space directory, which was
the Astro Materials Research and Exploration Science and

992
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,840
when they going to they were going
to select Native Americans right and to that,

993
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,239
Yeah, they's that's why they that's
where they were shooting for because because

994
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:05,039
Native Americans thought differently and they NASA
already knew at that time when they started

995
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:13,399
getting to Mars that people that had
education in the typical Western culture were not

996
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,960
going to be able to handle what
they said that they were going to find

997
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:20,319
when they got tomorrow maybe like yeah, like being the pioneers, but like

998
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:25,880
way way worse. Yeah, or
yeah, just anything, you know,

999
01:15:26,079 --> 01:15:30,199
sound is different. Now they're finding
out And now I think they probably found

1000
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:33,199
out that there was life on Mars
at one time. Yeah. Yeah,

1001
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:38,920
that's just by the way they're acting
and bringing back some of their old programs.

1002
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:45,960
Ok, go ahead. So I
had had some experience with NASA for

1003
01:15:45,159 --> 01:15:56,520
quite a few, you know,
years. Then recently NASA brought together sixteen

1004
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:03,399
outside experts okay, to assess unclassified
data about UAPs or what people used to

1005
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:09,760
call UFOs, because they thought NASA
could start contributing to this whole search.

1006
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:17,960
Now. It was called the NASAs
Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena Independent Study Team. That's

1007
01:16:18,039 --> 01:16:21,760
what the whole that's what the team
was called. There were sixteen people on

1008
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:30,680
the team, and they just recently
put a report up and the report I

1009
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,359
read the whole report, and I
think I might even send you a copy.

1010
01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:36,720
And it was just put out just
a few days ago, was September

1011
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:42,960
fourteenth, and I started looking the
saying what is really in this report?

1012
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:50,039
And the thing that I saw one
things that they reported was the team said,

1013
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:59,560
it is increasingly clear that the majority
of UAP observations can be attributed to

1014
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:06,680
no phenomena or occurrences. Okay,
how many about the vast majority? It

1015
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:14,439
said, yes, it says it's
increasingly that the majority of UAP observations can

1016
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,119
be attributed to known phenomena or occurrences. When you think about it, yeah,

1017
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:25,199
okay, you can tell that made
a lot of people unhappy. All

1018
01:17:25,279 --> 01:17:30,079
right. So then, more importantly, the same report went on to say

1019
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:41,880
NASA's Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena Independent Study team
found no evidence to support that unidentified anomalist

1020
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:47,560
phenomena were extraterrestrial. Okay, all
right, ol, same go ahead,

1021
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,880
I'm sorry, same old stuff,
same old line, same old everything.

1022
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:59,319
And then but they felt that NASA
was not in an ideal position to contribute

1023
01:17:59,399 --> 01:18:04,560
to the serial study of unidentified anomalous
phenomena because of the quality of the people

1024
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:11,640
that had been working for them.
This is a money grab. Then then

1025
01:18:13,279 --> 01:18:15,760
you know, you were asking me, do you think this report would lead

1026
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,199
to anything? So I went through
the whole report, and yes, I

1027
01:18:19,359 --> 01:18:25,640
do think it's it's already led to
something that I followed up on, and

1028
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:32,479
I just I just put down a
couple of these. Okay, So now

1029
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:40,640
the US office that investigates UAP,
it's called the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office

1030
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,399
or ARROW they call it. I
mean, come on, just stop for

1031
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,920
a second half. What is this
kind of bullshit? You know what I

1032
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,159
mean? I mean, this is
this is distraction at its highest level,

1033
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,760
just to you know, so already
people who are really into UFOs in there,

1034
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,359
their lives are same. What's the
name of that place? What's this

1035
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:04,880
Hey, it's called the All Domain
Anomaly Resolution Office, and it's only been

1036
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:10,600
out there for a year or so, but it's now it's been receiving a

1037
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:18,239
large amount of written reports about UAPs. So there are more UAP reports coming

1038
01:19:18,319 --> 01:19:25,800
in that that group is looking at, YEP, and there's now an increase

1039
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:32,399
in UAP sightings as well in addition
to the reports. So there's now since

1040
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:40,039
that group has been put together,
there's more reports, more sightings. Now

1041
01:19:40,359 --> 01:19:47,079
the same group, the Unidentified anomaloust
Phenomena group they have had, they're getting

1042
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:53,840
attention not only from the common person, but from Congress, yes, and

1043
01:19:53,920 --> 01:20:00,800
the Department Offense and now NASA,
since all these people now are seriously looking

1044
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:06,720
into UAPs. But here's the question. I just have to interrupt and ask

1045
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,119
the same question we ask all the
time. Why, now, you know

1046
01:20:11,159 --> 01:20:15,960
what I mean? Why did they
decide to step into it now when they've

1047
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:23,039
been denying it for decades? There's
more and more money floating around. It's

1048
01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:26,279
got to be it to investigate this. Ye, It's got to be it.

1049
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,960
And that's that's what makes everyone stand
up and pay attention. I just

1050
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:32,800
want to interrupt for a second.
I've always want to ask this of someone

1051
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:38,800
who's into ghosts. So Stephanie everything
that they might be part of the same

1052
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,359
thing, do you know what I
mean, Florida, Yeah, I think

1053
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:49,119
that you know, UFOs aliens,
ghosts. I think they exist adjacent to

1054
01:20:49,319 --> 01:20:53,199
us, like on a different plane
of existence, so we're very aware of

1055
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:56,479
them. I think they're aware of
us. I don't think they're the same

1056
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,840
entities, but I think they kind
of exist on the same level. Do

1057
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,640
you think I have this this idea
that there are just like is a different

1058
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:08,920
does it different? Something like right
next right next to us, right next

1059
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,000
door and just sometimes they leak into
each other. Maybe they see us in

1060
01:21:13,079 --> 01:21:19,680
their worldly the home man. Yeah, this guy with a wig today cross

1061
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:25,600
the light or something. But yeah, yeah, that's funny. Mac Quickly,

1062
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,520
John Keel was contacted by a psychiatrist
once he had had a young man

1063
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,520
was telling him that he had had
a UFO encounter a landing and his dead

1064
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,640
father stepped out of the craft and
he asked, Keel, is you know,

1065
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,159
did you ever come across anything like
this or Because the psychiatrists was going

1066
01:21:43,239 --> 01:21:45,760
to just brush it off as as
some kind of a fantasy. Keel had

1067
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:50,119
gotten dozens and dozens of cases over
the years of people that had encounters with

1068
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:56,960
apparently UFOs, but the deceased were
part of that craft. And I've already

1069
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:01,760
told the story about Rosemary Ellen Guiley
some years ago being in Waverley Hill Sanatorium

1070
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:06,880
with somebody and in the shadows they
both saw something that looked like an alien

1071
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,600
gray and a hauntess sanatorium. Take
that for what it's worth. Yeah,

1072
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,680
yeah, that's odd. So doctor
Bob getting back to NASA, I mean,

1073
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,560
do you see is this just going
to be another government agency just kind

1074
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:26,279
of you know, kicking the can
down the road a little bit. Now.

1075
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,000
I mean, I really think that
NASA is going to try to do

1076
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:35,439
something correct because Bill Nelson, who's
the administrator, he says that they have

1077
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:44,319
taken NASA has already taken in when
he called concrete actions to seriously look into

1078
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,439
UAP. Now another thing, I
don't know if you heard this report or

1079
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:53,920
not, but NASA was going to
give out the name they were appointing a

1080
01:22:54,079 --> 01:22:58,880
chief of UAP Research. Yes,
NASA, Yep, they were going to

1081
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,600
do that. Then they nigged on
that because they said they were getting too

1082
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:08,880
much uh you know, flack and
that harassment in the public, so that

1083
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:14,800
they weren't going to announce the new
chief's name. But they did finally announce

1084
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,439
it and his name. This was
after the report was released, and his

1085
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:32,840
name is Mark mckinnerney mcinnernye involved.
He's the new chief of u A p

1086
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:40,520
S for NASA, and I've tried
to con. I've tried to con.

1087
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:45,279
I've contacted him and I haven't gotten
any news back. But I'll tell you

1088
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:53,159
I started looking in what NASA now
has to offer, and it's amazing.

1089
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:59,920
When I when I was working,
they have all types of like uh grad

1090
01:24:00,199 --> 01:24:04,119
postgraduate work that you can get into
postgraduate programs on all of these type of

1091
01:24:04,199 --> 01:24:10,760
things. They've got young people working
on educational programs to teach about UAP.

1092
01:24:11,119 --> 01:24:13,960
So that's good. All of a
sudden that's in the scientific community, and

1093
01:24:14,039 --> 01:24:16,079
that's really what it should have been
a long time ago. But now maybe

1094
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:23,199
that's the milestone that we should celebrate
with, you know. Can I add

1095
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:29,199
to that about mcinnerne. Interesting thing
about his background is that he's been with

1096
01:24:29,399 --> 01:24:35,520
NASA for years, but he was
presently the liaison to the do odal limited

1097
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:43,560
UAP activities. Yeah, so interesting
have that much going for him as far

1098
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:47,760
as fitting into that position. Well, the thing is that just the fact

1099
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:53,960
that the do o D connection to
NASA and he and he now getting the

1100
01:24:55,319 --> 01:24:59,920
taken over the position, that tells
you maybe there's going to be a close

1101
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:04,720
an involvement with you know, the
military. They may for years have stayed

1102
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,640
away from that. Yeah, yeah, you know, but now and and

1103
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:15,600
I've mentioned in another discussions the trying
to bring in more agencies, particularly that

1104
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,840
new uh you know research group that
you just mentioned. One of their charges

1105
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:26,000
is that they're going to deal with
six different agencies. So maybe that's gonna

1106
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:31,039
come up with something a little more
concrete than just keeping us happy. Maybe

1107
01:25:31,079 --> 01:25:36,239
they really are gonna take some positive
steps and working against it seems that way.

1108
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,239
Plus they're going to involve crowd sourcing
into this program. Uh huh,

1109
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:47,399
he may nuts yes, it's really
it's uh you know. And Bill Nelson,

1110
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,079
the administrator there, he's you know, they asked him what would he

1111
01:25:50,199 --> 01:25:56,720
do if they found that, you
know, uh UAPs were extraterrestrial, and

1112
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,119
he said that in his case,
he'd admitted public. That's what it was.

1113
01:26:00,199 --> 01:26:02,960
He went and try to hide it
from the public. Let me tell

1114
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:08,439
you a quick quick story about X
Okay Agent X. Stephanie and everyone else

1115
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,439
there knows is he's on the show
every once in a while, and he

1116
01:26:13,039 --> 01:26:17,199
legitimately was in Army County Intelligence and
then he worked for a company. Afterwards,

1117
01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:23,079
we always bill him as he worked
for the company that worked for the

1118
01:26:23,159 --> 01:26:26,880
company. It was a it was
a you know, kind of like a

1119
01:26:27,039 --> 01:26:31,119
contracted to the CIA in the FBI. So anyway, so he would go

1120
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:34,720
down to Washington, d C.
Once a year for this little kind of

1121
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:42,000
group think group tank thing and they
would they would have representatives from NASA,

1122
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:46,039
from the State Department, from the
un from the military, from everybody.

1123
01:26:46,119 --> 01:26:51,399
I r sked the name, and
they'd give them a problem and then they'd

1124
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:56,159
break up into their own little groups
and they'd come up with solutions to how

1125
01:26:57,079 --> 01:27:00,039
how they go about this, And
usually he's as example, he says,

1126
01:27:00,119 --> 01:27:04,960
like once they did it and terrorists
had taken over a cruise liner. Okay,

1127
01:27:05,079 --> 01:27:08,680
so how are you going to rescue
you know, five thousand people?

1128
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,279
So you know, the military says, we're going to do this. The

1129
01:27:11,359 --> 01:27:15,560
State Department said, we're going to
keep all our allies informed. The works,

1130
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,239
right, So he goes down there
and this year, this particular year,

1131
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:26,800
the problem was, I've told this
story a number of times. What

1132
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,640
happens if we find a UFO a
disc in the desert? What do we

1133
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,359
do? And he said everyone just
looked at each other and they thought it

1134
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:38,840
was a joke because they never talk
about stuff like that ever. But that

1135
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,840
was the problem. And so he
says, you know, we listened to

1136
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,319
the lectures and we all like broke
Obama and so on, and they come

1137
01:27:45,399 --> 01:27:49,520
back and he wouldn't tell me he
was there representing the FBI. He didn't

1138
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:55,000
tell me their response, but he
said that the scientists get up and I've

1139
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,159
said this before, they said could
you lick it? That was the thing,

1140
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:00,760
because they said, if we could
lick it, we could study it,

1141
01:28:01,079 --> 01:28:04,800
you know scientifically. The military said, doesn't have any weapons, and

1142
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:09,560
how can we take advantage of them? Stuff like that, But just the

1143
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:14,239
whole idea that that would be the
problem when that would be the last thing

1144
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,439
that they would talk about and all
of a sudden, this is probably four

1145
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,920
years ago now, you know,
you know they always say they're going to

1146
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,840
stop bleeding this information out, and
now here we are. You know,

1147
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,600
hey, doctor Bob, can I
just add on that press conference that Bill

1148
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,279
Nelson had. One of the interesting
thing was at the end of the conference,

1149
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:40,439
they asked him if he personally believed
in UAPs. He said yes.

1150
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:47,039
He said, how can we think
we're the only you know, living objects

1151
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:53,840
in it where there are trillions of
planets out there? So that was interesting.

1152
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:58,720
He ended his press conference with again, I'm just going over there.

1153
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:03,239
But some of comment that although the
press conference was kind of well, you

1154
01:29:03,319 --> 01:29:09,279
know, everything's been identified, but
when they asked him directly he is the

1155
01:29:09,359 --> 01:29:13,119
head of NASA, that was very
interested that he made that comment. Yeah,

1156
01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:17,640
and then also they announced that they're
going to use more artificial intelligence and

1157
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:25,159
machine learning and looking for UAPs because
basically that's what I was doing with the

1158
01:29:25,359 --> 01:29:30,399
Galileo project and that kind of got
put to the side, but NASA seems

1159
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,520
to be picking that back up.
But one thing that you might find interesting

1160
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:41,640
too is that in this report it
said that NASA could play a vital role

1161
01:29:42,079 --> 01:29:47,640
by assisting Arrow in its development of
a new comprehensive federal system. So that

1162
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:55,039
seems to be what they're looking at, a whole new comprehensive federal system to

1163
01:29:55,159 --> 01:29:59,840
working with UAPs. So that's you
know, look, there's going to be

1164
01:30:00,239 --> 01:30:05,199
change going on, but there's a
lot of unique things. I think this

1165
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:10,600
organization, you know, could be
NASA could be the ones to take the

1166
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:15,920
lead on it. Well, it's
maybe it's another way for NASA to become

1167
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,920
relevant because now they have literally competition
that they help and you know, the

1168
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:25,279
SpaceX and all those kind of private
companies taking away some on the glory.

1169
01:30:26,399 --> 01:30:29,680
I was impressed when I started looking
at what they had to offer, and

1170
01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:33,680
they have like programs where if you're
working on a new project, how they

1171
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:39,319
can analyze how well your project will
work once it's implemented and so forth.

1172
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:44,079
I mean, they were that type
of stuff didn't exist when I was working

1173
01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:45,279
with them. That's cool. That's
a good. That's a good. That's

1174
01:30:45,279 --> 01:30:47,760
a sign in the right direction,
you know what I mean? Yes,

1175
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,039
definitely. All right. Now I
want to throw this to Stephanie again because

1176
01:30:51,039 --> 01:30:55,159
she made a mission when she came
on me. She's married to a fan

1177
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:58,319
of the Indianapolis Coats. Is that
right that I hear that? Or was

1178
01:30:58,359 --> 01:31:04,680
that a ghost whispering? You've heard
that right for a long time. It'll

1179
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:09,239
be three years in October. But
we've been together longer. Oh okay,

1180
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,880
all right? Has he been a
fan longer? Yeah? Mostly his whole

1181
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,960
life? Really yeah? Oh wow, this is gonna get sad really quick.

1182
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,399
So I like to give him hell
for a lot of things. So

1183
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,359
it's fine, Oh really, yeah, okay, this is I don't want

1184
01:31:24,359 --> 01:31:28,239
to give more ammunition. But I
feel bad for them because there was a

1185
01:31:28,399 --> 01:31:32,439
time that they were a good team. Okay, but the guy there in

1186
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:39,000
Baltimore, well yeah, yeah,
forget they were long but the guy who

1187
01:31:39,119 --> 01:31:44,039
owns him you know this guy,
right and who who He's brought up a

1188
01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:47,560
lot of the beatles, guitars,
and he hangs around with Santana and stuff

1189
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,399
like that. And he and he's
just one of these guys. It's like

1190
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:55,279
a it's like a plaything. It's
like a plaything to him. It's like

1191
01:31:55,359 --> 01:31:59,399
a hobby. Yeah. Yeah.
He doesn't give them money, he's not

1192
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,680
super are invested in how they do. I think it's just kind of like,

1193
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,520
yeah, I'm bored. I care
about this team today. He has

1194
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:09,239
a fault like a basketball or a
hockey team or something that's exactly what it

1195
01:32:09,399 --> 01:32:13,279
is. And he thinks he's cool
because he has all these really kind of

1196
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,399
rare instruments, because he's a multi
billionaire, so he can now class anyone

1197
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,239
in the music world, you know, money wise. But now I read

1198
01:32:20,319 --> 01:32:26,439
and what's his name? Mara is
not Marra, that's the Giants own up.

1199
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,319
But anyway, whatever his name is, he's now got a cover band

1200
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:33,239
and he's doing a tour in the
state. The Freaking Guy and shots the

1201
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:39,279
Indians occults. Man was driving nuts
because one of the things you're safe,

1202
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,399
You're safe. He's a character too. He does a lot of weird things.

1203
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,399
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he really is. And when

1204
01:32:45,399 --> 01:32:49,439
you see him, when you see
him interviewed. I don't think he even

1205
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:53,239
knows about football. I don't know
if he knows. They blow it up

1206
01:32:53,279 --> 01:32:57,159
with stuff it with feathers, tell
the truth because all he does is talk

1207
01:32:57,199 --> 01:33:01,039
about gatas and hanging with it,
even Hale and Yeah, he's just a

1208
01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:04,239
guy that owns things to own things. And I think that he hopes he

1209
01:33:04,359 --> 01:33:08,439
hires the right people to win games
so that nobody yells at him. And

1210
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,119
I think that is involved as he
wants to be. Yeah. Right,

1211
01:33:12,319 --> 01:33:15,880
they were really good at one time, and then I think just the atmosphere

1212
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,239
is a little bad. And then
they went through that whole suck for Luck

1213
01:33:17,359 --> 01:33:23,119
thing, which did not you know, piano. But anyway, this is

1214
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:27,840
nic Beloney Sports Hour, so why
don't we do this? Sucked for Luck

1215
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:32,319
who sucked after a while, and
after a short while unfortunately well, as

1216
01:33:32,359 --> 01:33:34,319
it turns out, he was not
a bad guy. And I should now

1217
01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:39,000
explain this suck for Luck was that
this guy, Andrew Luck I think his

1218
01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:43,399
name was, was a number one
quarterback coming out of college and if you

1219
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,920
had the worst record, you got
DIBs on him, you get the first

1220
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:53,239
drafts. So they had this one
year. Let's lose all the games,

1221
01:33:53,279 --> 01:33:57,279
and it was called suck for luck, okay, and they tried their best

1222
01:33:57,359 --> 01:34:01,680
to lose as many games as possible, but then they won a couple.

1223
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,560
They won a couple of people going, what are you doing? Win the

1224
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:09,800
game? But anyway, they get
luck anyway. And he's not he's not

1225
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,760
a bad quarterback. Okay, he's
not a bad quarterback. But he retires

1226
01:34:14,079 --> 01:34:16,600
like, I don't know, three
years into it or so, he just

1227
01:34:17,039 --> 01:34:21,199
was on when he retired. Yeah, he just kind of said his body

1228
01:34:21,319 --> 01:34:24,760
was done and he didn't want to
run it anymore. Which, you know

1229
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,000
what, he made money? Good
for him in fact, yeah, he

1230
01:34:27,079 --> 01:34:29,760
made his money. He did.
He did make his money. It was

1231
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:31,479
but it was during training camp and
everyone was thinking, what you know this

1232
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,960
is this guy has been in there
fifteen years. He's been in your handful

1233
01:34:35,039 --> 01:34:39,840
years anyway after that and never recovered
after that. And now any kind of

1234
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:43,880
betting stuff that's going on, if
we're looking for teams to bet, would

1235
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,520
just say, who's I hate to
say this, don't tell your husband this.

1236
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:51,359
Who's Indianapolis playing? Yeah, he'll
put somebody on them all the time.

1237
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:59,239
Wow. And he's also a Cubs
fan. Like he just t that's

1238
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,640
real. Wow. Okay, that
one blip in the middle of the night

1239
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:09,920
in twenty fourteen, all right,
that nocturnal emission and the rest of it

1240
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,600
has just been boring. Though it's
a cool park. The park is cool,

1241
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,359
used to be very cool. But
you know, the ball gets lost

1242
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,199
in the ivy and all that stuff. But it's way better when the cubs

1243
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:24,479
are good because they've been sad for
so long, you know, Sorry,

1244
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:30,960
doctor Bob. Oh that's okay,
Pirates fan myself, Oh no, you

1245
01:35:31,079 --> 01:35:34,399
really stuck in the energy out of
the room. Pittsburgh Pirates. Yes,

1246
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:40,239
it's called Wrigleyfield, still called.
I used to liville for a little bit,

1247
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:44,760
did you really, Yeah, yeah, yeah really. But it's fun.

1248
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,600
It's fun there whether they're winning or
losing. There's still like a lot

1249
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:53,159
of likes to party. Oh yeah
yeah, yeah. People I know people

1250
01:35:53,239 --> 01:35:57,800
who remember, right before they put
the lights up, people on the apartment

1251
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:02,680
buildings across the street started putting grand
stands on their roofs. Yeah, okay,

1252
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:06,239
remember that, And finally they made
them take them down. But I

1253
01:36:06,319 --> 01:36:10,319
knew someone who lived in one of
the buildings, okay, and they would

1254
01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:12,239
go up there like, well all
the time. First it was just kind

1255
01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:15,399
of friends and stuff. Then I
think they started charging people. I don't

1256
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:16,720
know, maybe that's when they I
met, But you could look into the

1257
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,760
ballpark from the top of the apartments. Then they put up the lights and

1258
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,359
kind of obscured the view and stuff, and you know, that was it

1259
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,960
for the charm of it. But
I agree the Cubs are where they win

1260
01:36:27,039 --> 01:36:30,000
to lose. People are interested in
them. Yeah, it's partying town.

1261
01:36:31,079 --> 01:36:34,239
Yeah, yeah, I'd love to
be in that pot that's on the north

1262
01:36:34,319 --> 01:36:41,960
side, right, I think so, yeah, because the south side south

1263
01:36:42,039 --> 01:36:45,239
side is the White Sox in this
right near where the meatpacking is and all

1264
01:36:45,319 --> 01:36:49,520
that stuff. You know, that's
all they can think of anyway. Wow,

1265
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:55,840
all right, there was five minutes
on lousy yeah Chicago teams. Okay,

1266
01:36:56,079 --> 01:36:58,920
all right, so when do we
do this? What do you say?

1267
01:36:59,039 --> 01:37:00,159
I want to bring the train into
the station? Oh you know,

1268
01:37:00,279 --> 01:37:06,680
you still got eight minutes? Eight
minutes? Okay? All right. Stephanie,

1269
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:15,119
who is the in chage of the
High Spirited podcast which matches? Which

1270
01:37:15,279 --> 01:37:20,439
matches goes with different cocktails? What's
your favorite cocktail that I already ask you

1271
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:25,800
this? You've not asked. It's
actually it depends on the time of year.

1272
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,800
I really like an old fashioned,
but if it's hot outside, I

1273
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,960
like margarita. Okay, now hanging
on, explain the ingredients in an old

1274
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,880
fashion please, So an old fashion
is bourbon based. You're going to use

1275
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:40,760
bourbon and then there's two ways to
make it. You can either use a

1276
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,640
sugar cube or simple syrup. Okay, so it's like a sugar and then

1277
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:48,359
bitters and bitters. Really yeah,
yeah, that will keep you going for

1278
01:37:48,399 --> 01:37:51,199
a while. How about a Manhattan? What's in a Manhattan? I've had

1279
01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:58,359
Manhattan's Manhattans are very similar, except
that they don't have the sugar in it

1280
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,760
and they use formooth hermus like really
kind of it's a little more bitter.

1281
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,039
It's not a bad drink. You
just want somebody that knows what they're doing

1282
01:38:05,119 --> 01:38:08,760
to make it for you. Okay. How about martinis? Are you a

1283
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:13,640
martini fan? I'm not. I'm
not big into gin or vodka at all,

1284
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,119
and you know those can kind of
go either way. Not big on

1285
01:38:15,239 --> 01:38:20,319
Martini's one one's favorite drink of all
time since he's been a kid. It's

1286
01:38:20,359 --> 01:38:27,479
a chocolate martini. I like it. It's a late it's late night.

1287
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:33,560
I love an espresso martini to keep
me up even longer. You'll put half

1288
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:39,640
my body to sleep the other half
flat away. Wow. Okay, well

1289
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,920
we've gone into many buys were avoided. Traca martinis. They have one one

1290
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:48,720
and not that many funs. Yeah, they're right. I never really was

1291
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:54,760
a martini guy until going down to
the galley. That's that of us on

1292
01:38:54,880 --> 01:39:00,000
the long road of You're Oblivia,
Oblivia right. Uh. Anyway, so

1293
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:05,399
they're closing the place up and then
locking us in. It has happened a

1294
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:09,920
couple of times, as it turns
out. But great sea food, as

1295
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,840
it turns out. Yeah, why
don't we do this? Why don't we

1296
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,600
take the train into the station by
the time we thank everybody? This tap

1297
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:21,600
dance with Yova? Uh? Switch
you have the uh you have the the

1298
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:27,520
photo up there switching. Yes,
I brought it in with all that sports

1299
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:33,199
talk. Switch you you have a
you have a book out and about right

1300
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:42,640
out and about high Strangeness, a
book that you collaborated on. Do you

1301
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,199
have a book out? Do you
have a book out? Well? I

1302
01:39:45,319 --> 01:39:47,920
have contributed a couple of chapters in
different books. Okay, all right,

1303
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,479
if you don't want to take credit
for what were you what were you selling

1304
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,479
at the UFO Festival and do you
want to plug it now? If not?

1305
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,039
Oh? That one yes, okay, so wow, okay, that's

1306
01:39:58,119 --> 01:40:02,119
that's one I got just called Man
High Strangeness. Okay, it takes.

1307
01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:04,560
It's the Year of the Garuda,
the Year of the moth Man, sixty

1308
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:10,239
six to sixty seventh year of the
career and Mark Randall is the graphic artist

1309
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,720
and he covers things like John Keel, The Mothman, the Lily Family,

1310
01:40:15,359 --> 01:40:19,119
Great Man in Black yep. And
he and I wrote the pieces for it.

1311
01:40:19,359 --> 01:40:21,359
Yeah that's cool. Yeah, you
gave me a copy when you're up

1312
01:40:21,399 --> 01:40:27,159
here and very nice. Yeah okay. People get that where Amazon? Well

1313
01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:30,159
they can. You can order it
on Amazon or you can see me at

1314
01:40:30,159 --> 01:40:34,159
the bam Munday Visitor Festival this weekend, which will be passed by the time

1315
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:41,960
this airs. I'm probably be going
to the Frogman conference in March. There's

1316
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,960
another conference in Bucks County that might
be coming up. Yes, so you

1317
01:40:45,039 --> 01:40:49,079
can. You can get it through
Amazon or get it for me and I'll

1318
01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:51,279
be happy to sign it for you. What's the frog Man? Where's he

1319
01:40:51,399 --> 01:40:56,640
from? So the frog man was, uh, that's the came out of

1320
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,720
the Miami River in Loveland, Ohio. Okay, not too far from here,

1321
01:41:01,279 --> 01:41:05,199
and he was. He was seen
briefly in the mid fifties and a

1322
01:41:05,279 --> 01:41:10,399
couple times by police officers in seventy
two. Although there is a tradition that

1323
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,640
goes back to the Native Americans.
Yes, when they told it to the

1324
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,039
French that were there. So this
guy, you know, he's almost the

1325
01:41:16,079 --> 01:41:18,760
one off. I mean he hardly
ever shows up. But the guy gets

1326
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:25,479
a conference, He gets the conference
and the audacity to chase cars and paster

1327
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:29,399
well over one hundred people that first
year. This is well, okay,

1328
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,560
everyone gets to dinner. As they
used to say, it's a time.

1329
01:41:33,039 --> 01:41:36,359
Okay, why don't we start thanking
everybody. Let's start with our guest tonight,

1330
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:42,159
and we're going to clap for you, Stephanie. I guess he's happy

1331
01:41:42,199 --> 01:41:45,159
to be here. Highly Spirited Podcasts, everyone, just how do we find

1332
01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:49,680
you? Just google highly Spirited podcast
Yeah, it should be wherever you get

1333
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:55,760
podcasts, and you can follow it
on Instagram at highly spirited Podcasts. Now,

1334
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,199
if one of us had a few
drinks and wanted to call in or

1335
01:41:59,279 --> 01:42:02,479
something like that. Is that possible? So I haven't done guess yet.

1336
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,359
I would love to. So if
you guys want to grab a poptail and

1337
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:10,279
come on sometime, I would be
so happy to have you. You've scene

1338
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,399
or places you wanted me to go, so it'd be fine. That's a

1339
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:20,159
podcast. Okay, we take it, We understand. Well, thanks for

1340
01:42:20,279 --> 01:42:25,359
joining us. Please come back on
again. We love the idea. We

1341
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,680
love the idea a lot. In
the fact we're going to go out now

1342
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:34,520
and have a drink and talk about
ghosts would be quite spirit Thank you Stephanie

1343
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:39,319
for joining us. Doctor Bob,
Doctor Bob, thank you very much.

1344
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,079
We appreciate it. Always good to
have a doctor on board. As you

1345
01:42:42,159 --> 01:42:45,199
can say, thank you, We'll
talk to her. You mentioned the Waverly

1346
01:42:45,359 --> 01:42:48,560
Hills. Uh, I did the
Waverly Hills sanatorious. I've been there and

1347
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:53,359
investigated. That's a strange place,
really, yeah, it is. Well,

1348
01:42:54,439 --> 01:43:00,159
if something may have touched the top
of my head, yes, they

1349
01:43:00,199 --> 01:43:03,479
call that with it where they keep
that all the way? Yes, something

1350
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:11,720
around by mine and Mike Ribs when
I was there. There's a there's a

1351
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,039
ghost of a wig maker. Yeah, and it was in the morgue and

1352
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:19,479
I something, Yes, that was
that was yeah, and some people actually

1353
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:23,439
went into on the slabs, you
know, they put it in there.

1354
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:28,239
No, I was attacked. I
was attacked by a bat in the morgue

1355
01:43:28,399 --> 01:43:30,640
really really yeah. Huh oh man, I hate that. Like four o'clock

1356
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,720
in the morning. Cool. Yeah, that is a creepy place. Nobody

1357
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:38,600
uses flashlights or anything like that.
You just let your eyes adjust to the

1358
01:43:39,159 --> 01:43:43,039
surroundings and uh no, but nothing, you know, I don't even know

1359
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,279
that. If I really had an
experience, it could have been a bug,

1360
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:48,119
you know, passing over my head. But that's just a tour of

1361
01:43:48,199 --> 01:43:53,520
the place. Yes, when you
get a tour, and then they kind

1362
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:57,319
of let you wander around and investigate
in the dark. I was there with

1363
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:02,399
a team of scientists. We set
up experiments and so forth. We had

1364
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:06,279
a bed frame that started vibrating in
the middle of the hall with somebody around

1365
01:44:06,319 --> 01:44:11,079
it. For yeah, yes,
we understand. Anyway, well that was

1366
01:44:11,159 --> 01:44:14,640
really going on there in the afterlife? Yeah, doctor Bob, real quick,

1367
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,279
what's the name of the book you're
working. It's called The Roswell and

1368
01:44:17,399 --> 01:44:24,560
Kecksburg. UFO crashes the scientific evidence
and I'm co writing that with cal Khorf.

1369
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,800
Nice. Okay, that's gonna be
out in about a month. Yes,

1370
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:30,119
thank you, all right, we'll
be in touch very soon. Club,

1371
01:44:30,279 --> 01:44:33,800
Thank you, club, thank my
pleasure. It was great being here,

1372
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:38,439
thank you. Gonna be in touch
very soon about other matters. Okay,

1373
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,920
thank you, thank you, Alvinado, glad to be here, Mac

1374
01:44:43,119 --> 01:44:46,039
keeping time and should we start our
engines a what we're close. We got

1375
01:44:46,079 --> 01:44:48,359
to get out of here, man. Tonight has been really weird. The

1376
01:44:48,399 --> 01:44:51,800
whole vibe once we got in here, no one's here for one thing,

1377
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,439
and in the radio station is playing
in the background. Yeah, and it's

1378
01:44:56,600 --> 01:45:00,279
it's the whole thing is kind of
strange tonight. Anyway, thank you to

1379
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:06,880
Switchy, Switchy, thank you,
thank you already. Switch You can't thank

1380
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:13,039
me enough, really, that's true. However, several demerits from when your

1381
01:45:13,119 --> 01:45:15,239
cat was on earlier, okay,
especially the cats on again. You're just

1382
01:45:15,279 --> 01:45:23,399
missed them. Also one one as
always, thank you you bet you my

1383
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,840
pleasure. Okay, I've got everybody
I think you've done, and the one's

1384
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,680
going to get upset and send me
texts all their lawyers to homestret troops,

1385
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:35,840
homestrut troops is an organization that raises
money for our wounded veterans in post nine

1386
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:41,760
to eleven action mean the aff Guinea
Wall and also the Iraqi Wall. These

1387
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,319
are folks who came home missing limbs
and so on. And what Homes Troops

1388
01:45:45,359 --> 01:45:49,840
does is raise money for them to
build houses that are adapted to these veterans'

1389
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:54,000
needs. That is, lower count
of space, not a lot of steps,

1390
01:45:54,079 --> 01:45:59,520
things of that nature. And then
when these homes are completed, they

1391
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:01,319
rip a the mortgage, they give
them the keys. They do not have

1392
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:06,119
to worry about emoigs payment hang over
their head every month because they own the

1393
01:46:06,199 --> 01:46:11,680
home and they can go out and
rejoin society in a way without having to

1394
01:46:12,199 --> 01:46:18,560
that thing over their shoulder, over
their heads. So nine a dollar goes

1395
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:23,319
who are veterans. Please just go
on homes for our troops, google them

1396
01:46:23,359 --> 01:46:26,640
to do what they're about. Lois
and I went to one of their homes

1397
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,479
down in Massive Poissett, nice part
of Massachusetts, and the home was really,

1398
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:34,640
really beautiful. This is not temporary
housing anything. This home class four

1399
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:40,760
hundred and eighty five thousand dollars beautiful
home adapted for this woman who lost two

1400
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:45,199
legs after doing two tours of duty
in Afghanistan. Just really a nice all

1401
01:46:45,319 --> 01:46:47,760
round thing. Homes for our troops. Just google them to do what they're

1402
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:53,720
about. And I think that's it. Gang, right, Okay, no

1403
01:46:54,479 --> 01:47:00,760
hands are raised. Crickets, you
know, crickets. Hang on, Why

1404
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,800
am I putting those in? So
listen, this is Mac for the entire

1405
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:12,920
gang saying, be safe, be
happy, and bye bye, and now

1406
01:47:13,279 --> 01:47:17,119
please stay tuned for a bonus segment
of Mac Maloney's Military X Files show.

1407
01:47:38,319 --> 01:48:15,039
Stars starts. Walk on the ocean, step on the stone, mold fresh

1408
01:48:15,119 --> 01:48:26,760
becomes water, good, becomes bored. So half an hour later we packed

1409
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:38,279
up our things they said they send
let us and those little things we knew

1410
01:48:38,319 --> 01:48:49,039
when they were laying. But I'm
just the same sins they already forgotten.

1411
01:48:49,319 --> 01:49:01,199
We kay walk on the o sho
step the stone. Let's straight down,

1412
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:16,560
ut because I'm on your show.
Still on the stone, les me go,

1413
01:49:19,960 --> 01:50:00,600
Let me go stop man, get
the homestands with the It makes you

1414
01:50:00,039 --> 01:50:11,920
joke and people don't know you and
trust is a joke. I don't even

1415
01:50:12,159 --> 01:50:21,920
have pictures, just memories to hold
grow sweet ear, its season has a

1416
01:50:23,159 --> 01:51:15,199
slowly grow I'm the only one to
blame for this. Somehow it all adds

1417
01:51:15,319 --> 01:51:24,640
up for sea soaring on the wings
of pride. I flew too high like

1418
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:33,399
a a recycles with the world.
I try so hard to leave, be

1419
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:45,039
high, to rid myself of all
but love, to give and tie,

1420
01:51:50,039 --> 01:51:59,640
turn away and not become another nail
to appears to skin the one who loves

1421
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:06,000
me more deeply than the oceans,
more opu insenitives of a world of embracing

1422
01:52:06,159 --> 01:52:21,640
every holiday? Can I be the
one to side grip fight or grips speak?

1423
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:41,479
Watched the waterflow, Take my world, the farm, I on my

1424
01:52:42,000 --> 01:53:02,079
need, take my world. The
farm broke in on my knee. All

1425
01:53:02,199 --> 01:53:11,279
said and done, I stand alone
amongst remains of a life I should not

1426
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:20,079
over. It takes all I am
just to believe in the mercy that covers

1427
01:53:20,199 --> 01:53:32,920
me. Did you really have to
die for me? All I am for

1428
01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:45,720
all You are what I need and
what I believe our words about. Take

1429
01:53:46,119 --> 01:54:01,279
my well about I on my need, Take my well. A bone broke

1430
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:13,560
in on my ney, Change my
world. The bot I am, my

1431
01:54:14,159 --> 01:55:02,239
myney, change my world, the
bottle my soul. So somebody tell me

1432
01:55:02,359 --> 01:55:14,039
mom, if bout giant, Somebody
tellble mom. Corumba let I diant that

1433
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:39,520
have on my soul that he makes
me Mom. Somebody tell mom mumba if

1434
01:55:39,560 --> 01:57:44,039
by giant. Somebody tellble Mama that
I mechs mos oh my the set.

1435
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:58,439
Someone to tell my mom it's about
die. I tell tell me my compound

1436
01:58:57,239 --> 01:59:31,399
him to so