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For your seven trillion dollars in allegory
we two see that there is risk ha

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is ninety percent of SMEs that generate
eighty percent. Give me 20 minutes of

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your time, and I' ll
give you information on the most relevant foreign

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trade, tax and customs issues.
With a human touch and let' s

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make a truk, a podcast of
malaga TVs and Mexica Hello, how about

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good afternoon welcome, let' s
barter, as it is at a telese

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magas event and Mexico, And well
the truth, we start this Monday with

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the right foot, with a barter, with a very interesting theme where our

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dear master, Guillermo Malpica, accompanies
us. How are you, Memo?

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I' m so glad you'
re joining us again today Hi, Daniela,

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very well, thank you very much
and very grateful. Let' s

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go for the invitation and well,
the truth is that one topic that is

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very interesting and the truth is that
we admire all your experience, which is

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the UK' s adherence to Tipat. So, I' m really interested

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in knowing how it' s going
to impact us, how this is going

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to impact trade, and well,
who better give us that perspective than you.

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So, to give you the word, I don' t know if

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you' ll let me read your
face. Thank you very much. Master

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Guillermo Malpica has more than twenty years
of experience in international trade, investment and

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international trade negotiations. He is currently
good, not up- to- date,

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but was executive director of the American
Chamber of Commers. Chapter Monterrey.

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He served as the trade representative of
the Ministry of Economy at the Mexican Embassy

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in Washington, where he supported negotiations
and defended Mexico' s commercial interests.

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He also participated in the negotiation of
the Treaty between Mexico, the United States

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and Canada as chief negotiator on services, investment, energy and temporary mobility issues.

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He was Director General of International Trade
in Services and Investment of the Secretariat

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of Economy, adviser to the Permanent
Mission of Mexico to the UMC in Geneva

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and responsible for economic affairs in the
representation of the Secretariat Economy in such Canada.

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Two thousand six to two thousand seven. He participated in the formulation of

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Mexico' s position in different forums
and as a negotiator in the free trade

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agreements in which Mexico participated as the
Mesé, the ogde la lady APEC,

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the negotiation, pizza negotiations is,
the peaceful and marnization of TELECUEM, the

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TPP the TIPAT, to mention the
most relevant. Thank you so much,

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Mema for being here. It'
s an honor for you to be with

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us doing a track. On the
contrary, Daniela, thank you very much

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for the invitation. I got very
happy to see my picture towels and my

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gray hair on my beard, so
I' m very motivated to start this

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presentation. I' ll share my
screen if that' s okay with you.

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To start the presentation, I think
you already have permissions, but something

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I' m seeing. I can' t get out of my own complete

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lack. More we see already if
you can not help it also not anymore

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well, take advantage while greeting the
doctor maximum that when coming down I am

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very happy to have here also in
sight, the carballito, how they are

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happy to have them again here as
panelists, as always there are Monday and

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Wednesday with Don Guillermo. We couldn' t miss them myself the beings you

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' re choosing, it' s
happening here is the Ernanita from the Internet.

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He' s famous in making his
own. It' s true to

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see. I think he was just
opening up so he wouldn' t let

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me share. Now it' s
over. Now we' re going to

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put it on presentation. That'
s where we can see it. No,

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it looks great. Well, then, I proposed to share with you

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on this subject which, moreover,
is of great interest to me, because

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it is a subject that is derived
from a very ambitious treaty that Mexico negotiated

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in some cases I would say the
most ambitious and that has continued to mutate

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to different configurations of countries. And
then I was very curious to learn and,

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after learning it, to share with
you what has happened with this process

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of tipat adherence, with this first
example, which is the United Kingdom,

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of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
what this part is officially called. Well,

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let' s talk about where the
tipat comes from, what is the

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process of accession to this agreement,
where is the interest of the United Kingdom

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to join antipat and what represents for
Mexico this adherence and then some geopolitical reflections.

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By way of conclusion, all this
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or necessarily in that order, because
sometimes during the preparation of the presentation,

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as other topics arise that are also
worth dealing with, but these four will

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surely be treated more by some bonus
track at the end that occurred to me

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at the end of the presentation.
What is the accession process in the near

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future? Well, it doesn'
t happen that when you have a Free

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Trade Agreement, you usually allow or
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you allow new members as part of
that Treaty. The PIPA has an accession

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clause and has already had it right
now. Let us see some candidates join

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this very ambitious agreement. The United
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February 2, twenty- one.
He was the first to do so formally,

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although there had already been press and
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The first to do so formally was
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was seeing a process that we are
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a very intense process of separation,
of a very long, very long relationship

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with the European Union and was in
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negotiating material and its own international agreements. Then, in this context, a

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bilateral negotiation with Mexico and the process
of accession to the tips are announced in

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principle, after a couple of years
of negotiation of two years, two months,

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on the thirty- one March of
two thousand twenty- three and then

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the agreement is signed on the sixteen
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those who do not have much information
about what these post- negotiation processes are

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like. Let' s call him
that. After the technical negotiation in a

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free trade agreement is concluded, there
are a number of steps that are known

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as the post- negotiation. That
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and then a few months go by
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This happened between the thirty- first
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it is part of this process of
negotiations that influences, therefore, to

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have the texts clean, to make
legal revision, to make translations and,

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well, to do all the internal
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the parties. That happened on July
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three and then there is still an
additional process. He didn' t get

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into the vigo. It was only
signed in the cave. No, then

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they have to come into force.
And so that it can go live,

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well, there are some provisions that
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on how the Treaties come into force. We are going to talk about that

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of the PIPAT and there is still
a need to ratify this agreement through the

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internal processes of each country. Some
countries, like the United Kingdom, have

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to go through Parliament, that is, through the chambers of the UK Parliament,

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the House of Lords and the House
of Commons. If I am not

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mistaken in the case of Mexico,
as we all know, international agreements and

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treaties only pass through the Mexican Senate, they do not pass through the House

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of Deputies. In some other members
of the tipat there is only one chamber

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in Congress. And in the case
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example, Malaysia or and the process
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be much more expeditious, because it
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process, but it is just a
decision of the Executive. In short,

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each country has its internal processes to
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already done so or the majority in
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that the majority have already done so, then it can already be said when

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the Treaty enters into force is treaty, then let' s say the United

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Kingdom' s accession to the tipa
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yet enter into force. Although it
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been legally revised, it has already
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yet go through the parliaments or internal
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of the UK Parliament, they said
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the second half of the two thousand
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since basically is to say whether that
power within the State that is ratifying it,

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which agrees with or does not agree
with the terms and conditions that were

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negotiated in the agreement. And if
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most cases, it is the Executive
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to vigor will be until all countries
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for it has not yet submitted ratification
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with some friends of former negotiators who
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they told me that although it has
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soon it will happen, that the
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be discussed in the Mexican Senate for
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Senate, no more to tell them
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the text is sent, it is
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according to the law of concluding treaties
of treaties and according to the law to

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another law that is specified for treaties
in economic matters latime, the law of

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approval of international treaties in economic matters. The Senate has to conduct a detailed

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discussion of the terms and conditions of
the agreement. Normally, the Senate is

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made up of commissions. Then they
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text which commissions should review that agreement
in the case of this accession, for

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it will be the Asia Pacific Commission, perhaps the European Commission plus some sectoral

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commissions, such as the investment one, that of I do not know if

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there is one of market access.
In short, they define which commissions review

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the agreement. Each committee issues an
opinion, an opinion is made and that

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opinion is taken away from the Senate
plenary for discussion, approval and once it

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is adopted and all formally ratified in
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It' s expected to happen soon. Well, this is the process,

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let' s say, of accession, but what this is the tipa

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For those who don' t know
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to read it, it' s
possibly one of the best existing mega regional

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agreements, not only of Mexico,
but existing ones. I would not dare

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to say it and that these are
these mega- regional agreements, because once

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free trade agreements were started to be
negotiated, at some point they began to

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negotiate as treaties by bringing together treaties. It was a tendency to join treaties,

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as it did in Mexico in the
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which we had three treaties and we
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after a few years and another tendency
is that treaties are made between a large

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number of countries, which are those
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because they usually comprise one region of
the world, then they are agreements between

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several countries, a large number of
countries and, because of their importance,

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in the case of tipat, not
only by their size, by the number

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of countries that make up it twelve
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Kingdom, but not and soon with
the injury of the United Kingdom twelve,

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but because it corresponds to a market
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the world pyri and thirteen percent of
the world trade. Among these, among

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those tipa countries they have all this
relative importance in the economy, in the

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number of people and in trade who
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formally has done so the United Kingdom, China, Taipei and Chinese. That

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you know this then, that it
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world recognize as an independent country of
China, and other countries, including Mexico,

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do not recognize as an independent country
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say then it' s called in
the agreements of the international organizations Taipei,

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Taipei, Chinese and it' s
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country not then Chinese tipe, Ecuador, Costa Rica and Uruguay. Only the

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United Kingdom has concluded accession negotiations.
There are already other economies, such as

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South Korea, Thailand and the Philippines, which in fact are not economies,

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but are countries that have also publicly
expressed their interest in joining, but have

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not made the formal and current request. Let' s see how this accession

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thing works and how the UK did
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Before that. Let me explain a
little bit to Mexico what the Tipat

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Comprehensive and Progressive Treaty of Transpacific Association
means. It has a name of a

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very long and complicated Treaty of Integral
and Progressive Transpacific Association in English is more

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difficult. That' s CPITITT.
It looks like a tongue- teller or,

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it looks like the eight- year- old boy crying PITIPIPI and before

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it was called TIPIPI, we didn' t give him a name in Spanish.

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When it was called TPPE in English
it was the Transpacific Partnership, we

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didn' t give it a name
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give us time to put a name
in Spanish. Now for Mexico, it

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is the best agreement in several chapters, even better in several chapters than Temach.

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I say it is an opinion of
the of course personal and one of

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the two best negotiated so far,
along with the TENEC has the decision to

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enter into this negotiation of Mexico,
which is above all geopolitical. In fact,

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the birth of the TPP is more
of a geopolitical strategy event than anything.

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Despite that, despite the fact that
Mexico considered it important to join this

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exercise of an agreement in Asia,
with countries in Asia Pacific and with countries

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in the Americas, because in addition, the United States was leading the process.

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Despite that, Mexico entered the negotiations
very late. It is worth saying

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that we entered the Fifteenth Round until
the Fifteenth Round, that is, from

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three to twelve December of two thousand
and twelve. I remember very well,

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because the first round that came to
Mexico, the Round Fifteen, was in

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Oakland, in New Zealand, is
possibly the furthest place you can go,

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being in Mexico on a good plan, in the farthest place you can go.

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And then we went out, like, thirty- one, like,

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November 30th. She' s not
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we left Mexico and arrived on November
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throughout the trip, we arrived on
December 2nd in Oakland. Then, and

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just then, it was the change
of government. Then he stopped, stopped

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being President of Felipe Calderón and took
office enrique Peña niet just as we were

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flying to Oakland in the first round
of negotiations. Then we arrived and the

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first thing we wrote is that we
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They were later ratified, but we
arrived at that level of uncertainty to participate

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in the first round of negotiations.
I remember very well what the main benefits

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for Mexico are preferential access to six
new markets, i e with six of

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those until then. Until then there
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who entered the same round. Fifteen
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Forgive me, we were already eleven
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there are six countries with which we
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So Australia, New Zealand, Bruneia, Singapore, Malaysia and Vietnam, which

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are their abbreviations, at least the
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We didn' t have a treaty. Then. Making a treaty with

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the TPP represented six new countries where
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of goods or services. Products are
goods and sawdust. In addition, we

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could have access to countries with high
purchasing power. Some of them had high

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purchasing power with like New Zealand,
just new markets for Mexico, such as

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Singapore, New Zealand and Australia.
We were then entering to play with countries

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in the most dynamic region of the
world towards the Pacific. We no longer

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had treaties with North America, dealing
with Europe, but they were regions of

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the world that, while very important, were also the regions that were growing

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less. The most dynamic region was
thus Pacific. Then, finally, we

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joined the global value chains of Asia
Pacific, when this whole issue of globalization

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and global value chains was important.
Then we had a pandemic and we had

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another series of global events that made
us rather think of one more topic of

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geographical shortening, of supply chains,
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But then, in this context also
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also becomes an important decision as a
door to the United States. Mexico becomes

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an imperte to the United States.
Well the good Nashorrin which is this tpp

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let me tell you also quickly,
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day is the TPPM. In the
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- like types minus the United States. Then it is an almost cumulative continuous

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process to reach TPATS. In other
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to grow since the late 1980s when
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Mechanism, is created. APEC was
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don' t know if you know
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a forum that makes up twenty-
one economies here, if we talk about

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twenty- one economies, because there' s Taiwan, there' s China,

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as different parts of the mechanism,
and from APEX it was mentioned that

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it would be very useful to have
a free trade agreement from all of peaceful

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Asia. But the EPP mechanism as
its nature was much more flexible. So,

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there, in APEC, most commitments
are voluntary, not mandatory, as

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in other international forums, such as
the World Trade Organization or the Organization for

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Economic Cooperation. I mean, there
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principle or voluntary commitment. Countries,
economies, excuse me, decided what commitments

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they made and, on the other
hand, there was a growing country.

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We should not use ABEC to make
a peaceful Asia free trade agreement among the

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twenty- one. This idea of
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does not materialize until two thousand fourteen, but there was already a little bit

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among some countries the initiative to do
and before it had done, four of

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the three twenty- one economies are
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' s New Zelan come together and
make a free trade agreement known as P

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four. It' s actually called
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Not every time in Asia. I
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' s still in force. It
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six and remains in force between them
four, but then it is decided to

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grow this P four and two and
in two thousand eight the United States shows

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interest in adding that it is also
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Says I need to play in the
courtyard of China, which is growing in

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an important way. And how I' m gonna play China' s yard.

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I am going to join an agreement
that has more or less aligned what

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I am looking for and I am
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disciplines and have disciplines that I want
to counter disciplines that China could negotiate in

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your region with other countries. So, for example, China brought the initiative

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of ARZIP, which is fifteen countries
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Then the p four plus the United
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playing in the field in the Chinese
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of two thousand ten two thousand begin
negotiations already between the four originals of the

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P four pifo plus the United States
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Australia and Vietnam, which join this
exercise. Then the TPP negotiation between

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eight was born, but look at
it was an agreement that first, if

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I am not mistaken, was to
prove an agreement between two, between New

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Zealand and Chile, and then becomes
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is launched as TPP already participate eight
and in October two thousand ten is added

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in Malaysia, there are already nine
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two thousand twelve is added in Mexico
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the negotiation. And finally, in
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in number twelve in the TPT negotiation. And until October four, two thousand

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and fifteen, the negotiations between the
twelve converge. It' s a very

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ambitious deal. Right now. We' ll see because it' s important.

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It is the subject of this presentation
that the TIPAT brings and why the

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UK goes up to it. The
negotiations are concluded, the TPP is signed

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on February 5, two thousand sixteen
and then something happens in two thousand sixteen,

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which is precisely because the pardon in
January of two thousand seventeen of the

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election of the United States favors Donald
Trump and the first act of government or

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the second act of government no longer
remember very well is precisely to get out

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of the TPP. We have heard
this many times. The United States leaves

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the TPP. It' s not
twelve, it' s eleven. He

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didn' t really get out of
the TPP. Formally speaking, he did

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not leave on 23 January. What
he does is that Donald Trump signs and

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so with all the press shows an
executive order in which he decides to suspend

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the TPP process. For the United
States, that is to say, the

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TPP was already signed, but this
was missing from the post- negotiation,

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which is precisely to ratify in domestic
procedures, international treaties. So, what

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to say about the United States is
no longer to ratify the TPP in your

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Congress. That is why it is
said that the United States leaves the negotiation,

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although formally there was still no TPP
and that is why it did not

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even give us time to name it, a man in Spain. So,

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that' s why I guess this
process over so many years is a cumulative

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process of countries continuing to get to
what we' re going to have now

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with the United Kingdom, which we
could call the plus type not either tipat

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plus one or we could call it
to make it more difficult CPT, CPT

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PAP Ottipata Treaty, Comprehensive and Progressive
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Not because, moreover, now with
the United Kingdom, because we are

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already breaking the fact that they are
countries that have coasts with the Pacific,

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because I do not see anywhere the
coast with the Pacific of the United Kingdom,

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but rather with the Atlantic Ocean.
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he will be called tipat or tipa
blus or tipa twelve. I don

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' t know yet. It is
not very clear whether colloquially this agreement will

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be renamed. What TPP contains and
then TIPATS contain all these chapters. They

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did not change the chapters by migrating
from the TPP to the TPAT, that

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is, when you leave for the
United States, you do a whole exercise

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that I am now going to tell
you. But basically, the provisions of

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the chapters change very little the thousand
and so many pages that this Treaty has,

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which is one of the most ambitious
and one of the best that the

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world has and one of the two
best that it has in Mexico, does

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not change much with the departure from
the United States. We have, in

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fact, at the end of the
day, we have thirty chapters. Here

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you can see the thirty chapters arranged
in three important baskets. All those chapters

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which are drawers, the Treaties which
we call institutional, for example, initial

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provisions and general definitions, exceptions and
general provisions, final provisions, administrative and

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institutional provisions. They' re all
chapters, just like him. Let'

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s say the administration of the Treaties, how they work, how they end,

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how they start, how they add
elements. Then, those institutional chapters,

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plus some existing chapters that did not
undergo major changes from what was being

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negotiated by Mexico. These enter the
first basket everyone who sells that first column.

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It is, therefore, a series
of chapters in which there was deepening

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or major changes with which Mexico was
being negotiated as a customs administration and trade

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facilitation, where the ARMC Trade Facilitation
Agreement is incorporated, where sanitary and phytosanitary

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measures and technical barriers to trade are
made much better chapter than had been done

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before. It makes a super ambitious
investment chapter, very interesting, with very

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different views between the TPP countries and
after TIPAT. There is a very ambitious

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chapter on services, on financial services. There is also a different discussion than

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the one that had been going on
for years in the temporary entry chapter of

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business people. Here I tell you, for example, that normally in these

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chapters of temporary entry of business people
we just had here in FTA let'

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s barter a presentation of some migration
issues and there was some talk about this

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topic in the chapter of the temporary
treatment of business people of almost all our

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treaties before TPT were equal. They
had four categories common to all parts of

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the Treaty of business people who were
basically business visitors, merchants, investors,

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that is, people who go to
another country to close a business, chance

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an investment, intracompany transfers that are
companies, people who move from a parent

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company to a branch, a subsidiary
in another country, that is, they

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change not to change companies, but
they change countries within the same company,

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transfers, below companies and professionals,
those four categories. They were usually negotiated

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in all the Mexican Treaties, from
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But there' s something going on
in the TPP and the TIPAT with

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the United States. The United States
since remember that this negotiation began in the

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two thousand and ten ended in two
thousand and fifteen. America. Over there,

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two thousand four receives a recommendation from
your Congress that you cannot negotiate any

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more agreements that have migratory provisions.
So, in a way, Lester understands

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that they' re the ones who
negotiate in America. He understood that more

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chapters of temporary work could no longer
be negotiated and that they no longer negotiated

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seasonally in their Treaties. When we
get to the TPP, all the other

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countries want to have a chapter of
temporary draw and the U S tells them

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perfect have a chapter of temporary altra. But I don' t make any

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compromise, I mean, I don' t give you access to any of

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the four categories, to any category, in fact, because I have a

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ban on a congress and then,
before done, what could have happened is

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that all countries made commitments and that
the United States was what is known in

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economy as a free rider, one
that travels free and benefits from temporary entry

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commitments without making commitments for themselves to
avoid that changes the dynamics of this chapter

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and then what is done is reciprocity. If I give Mexico four categories,

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Australia, Southern Area also gives me
access in those four categories. If I

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give Mexico, Mexico, Chile six
categories of business people. Chile gives me

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six categories of new people. And
so America, as it does not give

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any category of business people. No
one has any category of business people as

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a profit. Then it also profoundly
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You don' t say. We
also came in this way from a profound

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reform in telecommunications from two thousand,
two thousand thirteen, more or less.

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Several things about telecommunications, of the
telecommunications reform, are now incorporated into these

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very ambitious chapters, state- owned
companies and designated monopeblis. It is a

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chapter that also undergoes important changes in
intellectual property, a very complicated chapter.

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In fact, it was the last
item to be negotiated in this negotiation,

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in this TPP negotiation. The last
item was a few minutes before the ministerial

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meeting. Practically and chapter for the
first time, a labor chapter and an

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environmental chapter for Mexico. We had
no chapters like this, we had parallel

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agreements on the telecan and we had
no chapters on any other Treaty. And

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then a whole new set of chapters
or additional topics, like e- commerce,

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possibly one of the most ambitious chapters
in e- commerce, or maybe

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TENEC is already a little more ambitious
than this TPP. But cooperation and capacity

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development is a chapter on development,
a chapter on competitiveness and business facilitation that

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is repeated later in the tp negotiations
but a chapter for the first time of

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regulatory coherence SMEs, very important when
countries have already completely derecorded their entire tariff

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and almost no tariffs are charged.
What follows the following barriers are how they

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are regulated and the regulatory aspect is
precisely that regulations can be easily read among

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the most countries. A very interesting
chapter that was born for the first time

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in the TPP on anti- corruption, taking as a reference some guidelines that

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had been negotiated a little earlier in
the aogde that are called guidelines for multinational

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companies. Famous lems take some principles
from the OGDE' s lems and the

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Mexican private sector proposes an anti-
corruption chapter to the Mexican government. The

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Mexican government proposes it at the table
and we have for the first time an

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anti- corruption chapter in an international
treaty such as the TPP. Then tipat

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when it is made of TIPATS,
which is the one being lived in the

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UK, all these chapters remain.
What' s the change? Well,

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let' s see what' s
the one change there is with respect to

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TPP and TIPATS. Yeah, alone. Only 22 provisions are removed, they

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are not chapters, they are not
even articles. Sometimes they are only specific

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provisions that are removed from the text
of the TPP, and then what remains

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is the TIPATS. So it'
s a relatively easy negotiation, because it

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' s the United States that comes
out, so what countries do is we

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' re going to look for all
those provisions that were from the United States,

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only from the United States and that
no one else supported and that we

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don' t want to have in
the TPP. Twenty- two provisions are

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found during the tipat negotiation and the
text of the TPP is then removed.

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Less than 22 provisions is the text
of the TIPATS. What are some of

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them, for example, eleven in
intellectual property. Some topics, for example,

411
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that it was going to be with
the new uses of a patent that

412
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.880
had already been granted, if it
was going there was a provision that proposed

413
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the United States that was also removed, that was to extend the duration of

414
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the patent when for some reason not
attributable to the patent applicant, It was

415
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.319
prolonged for longer than necessary the entire
administrative process of granting the patent, protection

416
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:19.640
of undisclosed data, protection of medicines
of biological origin, which this was one

417
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:25.200
of the most sensitive issues for Mexico, is managed to remove from the TPP

418
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.279
by doing the negotiation of the TIPAT. In addition, such as satellite signal

419
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:35.880
protection and some legal resources available to
providers, Internet service providers, Internet Service

420
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:44.200
providers or ISPS in services to trade
in services. There are three provisions that

421
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.240
are removed. Some topic that bothered
Bruneite from his list of commitments without services

422
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:53.960
anymore. An annex on Express Delivery
Service Express that proposed to the United States

423
00:33:53.960 --> 00:34:00.920
and that Mexico did not like anything. A small provision on the scope of

424
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.640
government procurement is also removed from the
TPP. The same and other provisions that

425
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.480
are removed, for example, in
fast- delivery shipments, which also proposed

426
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.400
it to the United States. In
other words, the United States was very

427
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:15.159
keen on the issue of express delivery
services that have to do with electronic commerce,

428
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:21.440
but also with parcel delivery and message
and dispute resolution in telecommunications, that

429
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.679
this is a disposal that is removed
when moving to TIPAT and that Mexico wanted

430
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:31.559
it removed because due to the telecommunications
reform, one could no longer have a

431
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:37.920
recourse as an administrative review that before
Mexico' s telecommunications reform could be made.

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So, with the telecommunications reform,
you can no longer have this administrative

433
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review resource in our country. And
when we came to the negotiation, remember

434
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that we arrived at the negotiation in
the Fifteenth Round was already agreed large parts

435
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of some texts, including in telecommunications. It had already been agreed that there

436
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should be this mechanism for the settlement
of disputes between communications that incorporated this administrative

437
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:06.280
vision that was no longer permitted in
Mexican law. But since we were new

438
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.199
to the negotiation I think we couldn' t take it away unless everyone else

439
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:13.719
agreed. And, obviously, because
everyone else did not agree, then we

440
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.760
had gotten used to it, we
had gotten used to it, resigned ourselves

441
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.800
to having that provision that there went
against Mexican legislation. When the U S

442
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:28.360
leaves the TPP and allows us to
remove that provision from the text of this

443
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.480
PRFE, plus some investment provisions that
also gave it more interest from U S

444
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.719
investors and that gave the U S
a greater power to sue the U S.

445
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:45.960
Then those investment provisions, which were
called investment authorizations, especially investment uses

446
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:52.159
and investment agreements was another, were
removed from the text of TPP. So

447
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.239
the TPP minus twenty- two provisions
is the type. That is the agreement

448
00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:01.679
and here you can see in this
link that I share with them an explanation

449
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:08.239
for one of the twenty- two
provisions that were removed in which they were

450
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.000
removed at that time from the text
to make the tipat. So we already

451
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:15.360
have the tipat here you can see
the negotiation process. It was a year

452
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or so about ten meetings where it
was agreed, because what I am telling

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you is to choose a few provisions
where everyone agreed to remove them and what

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was left, because it was already
the girl. The negotiations in neo of

455
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two thousand eighteen are concluded and the
tipat is finally filmed in March of two

456
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thousand eighteen in Santiago de Chile,
and then comes the whole process that I

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already told them of ratification. It
was gradually ratified, and now we will

458
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see how the Treaty enters into force. Look carefully, this is the technical

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file of the tipa thirty chapters I
already told them related to horizontal trade and

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or new topics, of baskets,
twenty- two suspended provisions that were only

461
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proposed by the United States and to
leave to the United States, as they

462
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are removed. This is important.
How does IPAT come into effect when six

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countries or at least fifty percent of
the GDP of the TEPP countries warn that

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they have already done their ratification process, the one I tell them that Mexico

465
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.320
does it the Senate. When six
countries warn or fifty percent of GDP warns,

466
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.199
this enters into force the rate does
not then type TE enters live right

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there as the thirty- thirty of
November of two thousand eighteen hot right now.

468
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We' re going to see him
with six other countries. Not then

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were five more to ratify and about
fifteen days later Vietnam ratifies it. Not

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this one, or first thing.
They ratify this Australia, in Australia,

471
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New Zealand and Canada, Mexico,
to see if I remember, Singapore and

472
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:12.039
Mexico I do not lack. And
then, fifteen days later, Vietnam ratifies

473
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it. And then there were seven
and there were no more four that were

474
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Chile and Peru, Malasha and Brunei. Interestingly, Malasi and Brunei, who

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were the ones who could most easily
approve it, had not approved it.

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Little. Then Peru tries it.
After Peru, Chile proves it, if

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I am not mistaken, then Malaysia
and finally a few weeks ago this Brunel.

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Then there are already tipats with eleven
countries in force. And that'

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s how it operates today, already
with the eleven countries and here I put

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in green to highlight how accessions work. Any State territory of the independent nervese

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will be able to accede to the
new agreement in terms, terms and with

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ndis to be negotiated between the parties. Anyone has been influencing the United States

483
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:10.599
on U S day wants to return, as they would have to negotiate terms

484
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:15.119
and conditions to agree again pay back
to enter. And well, that'

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00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.679
s a little bit of the tipat' s data sheet How' s the

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adhesion process. Here comes Article 34
of the TPAT Agreement agreements. This Treaty

487
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is open to accession by sub-
paragraph to any other customs State or territory

488
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which is a member of APEC.
The only State is the only territory of

489
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.559
a different one. Someone who is
not an APEC member state is Iwan.

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We are talking about Chinese Taipa and
any other APEC country, that is,

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the 20 APEC or Taiwan economies.
It is open to all adherence by any

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of them that is no longer a
part of TIPAT. Plus any other customs

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territory that the parties may agree to. I do not know any other customs

494
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.199
territory under that name, for example
in the MC, in addition to Taipei

495
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.360
Ching. But well, if there
is another and the parts hang it,

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this could also be part of the
TYPLAT. Any other State, or any

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other country or territory of January other
than that may be part of TIPETS.

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It is now important that it is
prepared to comply with the obligations of that

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Treaty, subject to the terms and
conditions that may be agreed between the State

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and the different customs territory and the
parties and after approval in accordance with the

501
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.719
applicable legal procedures of each party and
the different donor territory that will henceforth be

502
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called a candidate for accession. So
the literal text, obviously very legal of

503
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that article thirty paragraph four, article
thirty four article four of chapter thirty accession

504
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:52.880
is the first literal paragraph and then
there are already another number of paragraphs,

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as for two pages more than what
they contain is this does not have to

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be a written request. The United
Kingdom then made a written depositary request.

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Working groups are then set up.
A working group to negotiate the terms and

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conditions of accession. A working group, an Accession Working Group to WG,

509
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:16.000
was set up to negotiate with the
United Kingdom its membership of the tipat.

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This accession working group presents, as
they conclude their negotiations, a written report

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containing three things. The first thing
is the terms and conditions agreed with the

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candidate country. The Commission' s
recommendation, a recommendation to the Free Trade

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Commission to address this issue. The
Free Trade Commission is the Secretaries of Economy

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or Trade, the heads of trade
of each of the Tipat countries meet regularly

515
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once a year, and that is
called a meeting of the Free Trade Commission.

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It is then recommended that the Commission
decide everything in this case that the

517
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:07.159
working group recommends that the Commission accede
in the terms and conditions agreed with the

518
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United Kingdom. And then that report
also contains a proposal for a Commission decision

519
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.239
in which these committees function, let
us say legally through decisions. They are

520
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:27.639
like legal instruments in which commissions make
decisions. They are called the proposed decision

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00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.880
of the Free Trial Commission. Very
well afterwards this article also speaks of the

522
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fact that there are procedures for when
one of the parties objects to the creation

523
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:42.239
of an accession working group for an
applicant or even the accession decision. Imagine,

524
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.039
for example, among the applicants we
have to tell them here a little

525
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:53.679
bit back, among the applicants we
have Chinese Taipei and Mexico has a one

526
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:58.719
- China foreign policy, that is, it does not recognize Chinese Taipei as

527
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.159
a country. It is very difficult
to have a free trade agreement with a

528
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.039
non- country. So, if
you go ahead and form an accession working

529
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:14.559
group with Chinese tipe, you will
most likely have to object to this formation

530
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:19.840
of this working group in Mexico,
including accession. Then there is a procedure

531
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.159
for making that objection. It'
s not what that asset brings. The

532
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.960
candidate for hession is also given a
period of time to hand over his instrument

533
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.559
of injury. That is, when
accession was already negotiated under the terms of

534
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:36.159
accession. There is a deadline for
the United Kingdom to hand over its instrument

535
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:38.920
of accession to the depositary. That
is to say, to hand over an

536
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:44.360
instrument of accession when it was approved
by your Parliament and I finished and here

537
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:45.199
is the instrument of accession. They
hand it over to the depository. Who

538
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:51.039
' s the depositary? It is
a tipa country that keeps all the legal

539
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:57.119
documents, the original filmed text of
the TIPAT, plus all the decisions of

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00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.920
the Commission, plus the annexes,
plus the parallel letters that the type could

541
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:06.119
have. That depositary is New Zealand. If you enter the New Zealand page,

542
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.280
there is a special page for the
TIPAT as depositary, which is very

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00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:15.440
complete. It has information for SMEs, it has all the information on the

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00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.199
process that it represents economically for countries. Then it' s a page.

545
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:29.360
They are very good sources of information
in the Ministry of Trade, Foreign Affairs

546
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:35.159
and Trade of New Zelan. Who
is the depositary of time and then says

547
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.239
when the accession comes into force.
Well, the accession will come into being

548
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.639
60 days after the instrument of accession
is deposited, i e 60 days after

549
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:46.920
the depositary is formally notified that the
internal procedures have already been completed, i

550
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:52.079
e sixty- two days after the
United Kingdom notified New Zealand, which has

551
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:57.719
already passed through its Parliament and the
tipat was approved. The United Kingdom'

552
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.559
s accession to the type would come
into being and the United Kingdom said it

553
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.639
would do so in the second half
of the two thousand twenty- four or

554
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.159
on an agreed date, because sometimes
it is better than sixty days, exactly

555
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:12.039
sixty days later, because perhaps,
at the time of counting the sixty days,

556
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:19.840
it may happen that they fall on
a rare day, for example,

557
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.880
on 13 March, or that it
falls on 2 April, that is,

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00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.920
that it does not fall in a
fortnight or at the end of the month,

559
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.440
and sometimes it is much easier for
administrative purposes from a treaty that is

560
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:37.840
counted as well as fortnights or by
the beginning of the month. So,

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00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.760
sometimes, if those sixty days don' t fall on a day, as

562
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.119
well as on a fortnight or at
the end of a month, it'

563
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.320
s best to remind each other to
go into Vigo now the next month to

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00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.679
start the first of a month,
for example, or the sixteen of a

565
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:59.760
month, well. That is the
process of accession followed by the United Kingdom.

566
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.639
Now, as the TIPA already had
all these thirty chapters that I taught

567
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:09.760
them negotiated. In fact, the
accession negotiation of the accession working party with

568
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.119
the United Kingdom was therefore that the
United Kingdom would be able to accept all

569
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.599
the provisions of the chapters of the
TPP the provisions of these 30 chapters and

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00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:23.880
where there was negotiation was basically in
the other large part of the free trade

571
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:30.480
treaties, all the free trade treaties. Their level of mission is evidenced by

572
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:37.719
both themes. The first theme is
the whole chapter of the Treaty, which

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00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.119
is the commitments or disciplines of that
Treaty to which countries commit themselves in terms

574
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:51.920
of disciplines or principles of the Treaty. And another major component is the market

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00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.679
access lists, that is, what
access is given to the goods market,

576
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:00.440
what access is given to our partners, or traders in this Treaty, what

577
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.159
access is given to the services market, what access is given to the investments

578
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:12.960
of the partner states in this new
Treaty. And then, in those negotiations

579
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.159
that are called generic negotiations, they
are called access negotiations. There are also

580
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.000
access negotiations, for example, on
government purchases. What access you' re

581
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:24.400
going to give to shopping, public
procurement, foreigners. So all those negotiations

582
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:30.320
say those four and some say that
up to five do not, because also

583
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:36.000
the chapters of commercial enterprises for the
mercy of the State also have their annexes.

584
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:42.519
So let' s say that all
those particular negotiations of what rate of

585
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.719
relief I' m going to give
you, what products in the case of

586
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.920
goods, of how I' m
going to consolidate the opening in the case

587
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.360
of services or investment, of what
activities are going to be covered by the

588
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.199
rules of public procurement, under which
thresholds and which sectors? All these access

589
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:01.480
commitments are the second major component.
And that second big component was what was

590
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:06.760
negotiated with the United Kingdom, because
that depends on each country. Each country

591
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:13.280
has its own annexes on market access, goods, services, investment, government

592
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:19.679
procurement and State- owned enterprises commitments. So that was negotiated with the United

593
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:25.599
Kingdom. We do not yet have
the negotiated text, but what some people

594
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.360
who participated in the negotiation tell me, well, not that they do not

595
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.760
participate in the negotiation, well,
yes, that they participate in the negotiation,

596
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:37.320
but that they are no longer negotiators
or people who participated in the joint

597
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:43.960
room. When there were still plenary
meetings in the next quarter, it is

598
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.760
that, in fact, the United
Kingdom was very cautious in its market access

599
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.559
commitments. He didn' t give
them as much as the Tipat countries would

600
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.119
have wanted. But, well,
at the end of the day he stayed

601
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.519
and took that and the UK is
going to be part of the tipat with

602
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:06.360
that as unambitious paramissions, for example, in trade in goods. We know

603
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.960
that the United Kingdom wanted greater access
from some dairy countries, for example,

604
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.760
Mexico and Canada, and that well, in Canada it is a very complicated

605
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:20.599
issue, in Mexico it did not
want to give access either, because we

606
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.159
wanted more access in meat. But
in meat, because the United Kingdom did

607
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:28.360
not want to give access then,
in the end, that there were already

608
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:35.400
unambitious commitments in dairy for the United
Kingdom and in meat for Mexico. But

609
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.599
there is little we can know until
we really see the market access lists what

610
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:43.679
they contain in this second item.
What we do know is that the United

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00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:52.559
Kingdom accepted, accepted all the disciplines
of the tipats, the thirty chapters of

612
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.039
the tipat. And that, then, represents, because maintaining that at a

613
00:49:55.039 --> 00:50:00.679
very ambitious level of commitments, at
least in this part, because access undertakings

614
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:07.239
can also always be additional rounds to
improve them. There is no flexibi clause

615
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:12.719
for revision of the tipa text that
we have here on the technical date says

616
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.679
revision. The parties shall review the
request of a party for the operation of

617
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:20.159
the Treaty. You are proposing to
consider any amendment to this Treaty, of

618
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.840
any related matter as to whether amendments
to the Treaty can be made, which

619
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:28.079
could be even greater ambition at best
in market access. Another time, because

620
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.239
it was important for forgiveness, I
already went back. Why it was important

621
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.760
for the UK to enter antipats,
but the UK is the second largest service

622
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.679
provider in the world. Not at
that time they also had a lot of

623
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:49.440
interest in the negotiations on transpanterized trade
in services, especially beings and financial digital

624
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.840
trade and their services represent forty-
three percent of their trade with members of

625
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:58.960
the tipat With data of two thousand
twenty- two they accept for the first

626
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.159
time a principle that comes from NAFTA- type treaties, which is the requirement

627
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:06.719
of non- compulsory local presence,
which is in the chapter on cross-

628
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:14.000
border trade in services, as well
as advanced provisions on national regulation, which

629
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:19.840
implies less bureaucracy for the granting of
permits and licences in the field of trade

630
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.400
in services a greater flexibility. These
are data given by the United Kingdom itself

631
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.920
on its page, on the page
of the UK Ministry of Commerce, more

632
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.679
flexibility through an agreement that has modern
rules of origin for greater sectoral competitiveness.

633
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.360
For example, I accept for the
first time cumulation in one of its Treaties.

634
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:43.039
There is a very ambitious investment chapter. The UK' s invasion of

635
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.719
the TPAT region is expected to grow
and the UK received foreign direct investment of

636
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.800
the type per hundred eighty- two
billion pounds sterling in two thousand twenty-

637
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:57.719
one, disciplines of the most modern
that may be, not modern rules for

638
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.920
digital commerce than in two thousand twenty- one high sales from the UK to

639
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:06.960
the tipa for twenty- three million
pounds sterling. New markets a little the

640
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.039
argument Mexico had to enter the TEPEP
not here, in this case, Malaysia

641
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:15.760
is the new market of the UK. Let us remember that Mexico is not

642
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.039
a new market, because it was
part of TELECUEM. When this UK comes

643
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:24.079
out of the good telecuen, because
this we negotiate another thing and we have

644
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.960
an over- investment agreement. No, then it' s not a new

645
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.159
market. But in general they are
eliminated with the countries of the tipat.

646
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.840
They are eliminated by about eighty percent
of UK whisky tariffs over a ten-

647
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:40.320
year period and 30 percent tariffs on
UK car exports. In seven years lower

648
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:45.079
consumer prices are eliminated. In the
end, because the entry of products from

649
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:51.119
other different countries, with greater,
with good quality and this variety, this

650
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.880
allows a greater variety for the consumer
and better, lower prices. This does

651
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.679
not allow imports, for example,
of fruit juice from pro and Chile and

652
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:05.960
mention chocolate and honey from Mexico on
the United Kingdom page. What happens next,

653
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.920
what we have with the United Kingdom, because we had told them we

654
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.000
had the brexist the 20th dwarf of
two thousand twenty, between the transition period

655
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:19.480
of the United Kingdom, that is, that period in which they are separating

656
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:24.400
from a long marriage with the European
Union, and the United Kingdom is beginning

657
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:29.440
to stop enjoying the benefits of hotels
is from the European Union. Then you

658
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:35.119
have to start negotiating deals on your
own. Here I put the first bullleit

659
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:39.519
that the negotiating teams for we process
both for the UK' s accession to

660
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:49.840
TIPATS and for a bilateral treaty with
Mexico. In those two processes, the

661
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:54.880
Mexican negotiating teams, former Mexican negotiators, play a very interesting role, because

662
00:53:54.920 --> 00:54:00.079
there are a lot of former Mexican
negotiators from different generations. And when the

663
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:05.559
United Kingdom starts negotiating agreements, it
starts looking at first, they start looking

664
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:09.360
like negotiators. I remember what I
was looking for and you' re interested

665
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:13.960
in being a negotiator. Well,
send me your résumé video here to the

666
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:17.920
embassy. They then decided that they
would rather seek out consultants and launched bidding

667
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:23.320
processes with the world for firms that
would like to advise them in the negotiations.

668
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:29.079
Some Mexican offices participated in these visitation
processes and some of them won associated

669
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:35.320
with an office, with a European
office. If I am not mistaken to

670
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:42.519
advise the British negotiators in these two
negotiations, in the accession of the United

671
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:50.639
Kingdom anti pat and in the bilateral
treaty Mexico United Kingdom good quickly because it

672
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:55.880
teugía maintain the preferences of TELECUEM For
the United Kingdom and for Mexico an agreement

673
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:00.440
is negotiated that is called a continuity
agreement, simple to give continuity to this

674
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.840
commercial opening. On December 15,
two thousand twenty, this continuity agreement was

675
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:08.599
filmed and entered into force on June
1, two thousand twenty- one.

676
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:12.519
In this link that I share with
you, you agree to continue. It

677
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.639
' s a very short deal.
It has seventeen pages and what it says

678
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:21.400
is good. We kept giving ourselves
the deal we were giving ourselves under the

679
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:24.360
original Telecuem. It seems then that
the negotiation of the telequoum had already taken

680
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.360
place in two zeros, but it
has not entered into force. As you

681
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:31.679
know, then the continuity agreement between
Mexico and the United Kingdom says we are

682
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:38.119
going to deal with Telecuem, one
of the original Telequem, in this continuity

683
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:45.039
agreement and we are going to take
time to negotiate an ambitious, modern and

684
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.480
comprehensive agreement. Thus the text in
article nine of the continuity agreement within the

685
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.440
first year, that is, within
the first year of life of the continuity

686
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:57.840
agreement. This from the first of
June of two thousand and twenty- one.

687
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.199
Before the first of June of the
two thousand twenty- two, negotiations

688
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:05.960
had to begin for an ambitious,
modern and comprehensive agreement. What did happen

689
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:10.519
and they will strive to conclude.
They will thus endeavour to conclude the negotiations

690
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:15.280
in three years' time. I
mean, there' s an obligation but

691
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:19.760
very smooth. It is not a
very harsh obligation, to conclude the negotiations

692
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.280
before June of two thousand twenty-
four. If they are not concluded,

693
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.639
nothing happens, because you can say
that you tried hard to conclude, but

694
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.400
you did not conclude, then it
is a soft obligation. Let' s

695
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:37.760
say this. They will endeavour to
conclude. How' s this negotiation going?

696
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.880
Okay. We' ve had a
change from the Secretary of Economics.

697
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:46.079
She' s gone She' s
got Clutter, the new secretary' s

698
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:49.760
here, and she' s changed. They tell me who is in this

699
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.280
at the Fourth Together, that the
dynamics with the Court of Together have changed

700
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.840
a little bit. In spite of
this, as there are some advances,

701
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:00.000
they do not have the mutual interest
of Mexico and the United Kingdom to strengthen

702
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:05.360
the lateral civil trade, to give
legal certainty, to improve access to the

703
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.639
market of goods and services, influencing
new disciplines with high level of ambition.

704
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:10.599
I mean they want to have and
here the question that won' t be

705
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:13.920
worth having a bilateral agreement when they' re already part of the TIPATS.

706
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:16.599
On the subject of disciplines with a
high level of ambition, I do not

707
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:21.039
know which disciplines can still have a
better level of ambition. And on the

708
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.519
issue of market access, there is
no doubt that we can negotiate on a

709
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:30.880
bilateral basis better market access commitments than
those that were negotiated with ten other countries

710
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:36.440
in the tipat. So, bilaterally, it makes sense to negotiate market access,

711
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.960
because it can be much more ambitious. It' s not the same.

712
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:44.519
Negotiate with another country You can only
go much further, be much more

713
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:49.800
ambitious than negotiating with eleven countries where
normally the lowest common denominator, as it

714
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:54.360
is lower. The common denominator of
forgiveness is lower. Then what happened?

715
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.519
Everything that always happens in a business
process has happened, what we know in

716
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:07.239
the negotiations, such as pre-
negotiation, that is, exploratory talks to

717
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:12.079
define approaches to the scope of the
Treaty. What are the priorities of the

718
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:15.440
Treaty, of the objectives of what
is the architecture of the Treaty and by

719
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:21.440
architecture I mean what levels of negotiation
there will be. There are normally three

720
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:27.239
levels of sharing negotiation in a negotiation, e g at the technical level,

721
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.960
which are the negotiating tables, the
experts of each topic negotiating at their table,

722
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:35.760
then the level of coordinators, negotiating
heads or negotiating coordinators or CHIP negotiators

723
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:40.719
in English and then the ministerial level. When a few things remain to be

724
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:45.280
resolved normally three levels of negotiation,
when each of their levels will be seen.

725
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:49.599
For example, in most of the
Treaties, ministers do not see each

726
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.320
other until the end of the negotiations, when two or three things remain to

727
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.840
be resolved in temach, the ministers
saw each other in each round and had

728
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:01.039
fifteen things to solve at the end
of the negotiations. The levels of negotiation

729
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:06.159
in this shadow round, which is
the pre- negotiation that has already happened,

730
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.360
are a little defined there. Participants
are defined at each level of negotiation,

731
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.239
i e ministers, because we already
know who they are. But the

732
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:20.719
ministers designate a negotiating box, designate
the heads of tables, the technical negotiators,

733
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.519
how many negotiating tables there will be, how many topics or chapters there

734
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:28.360
will be, what the index of
this Treaty is. Legal frameworks are shared

735
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:32.440
to understand the other country a little. Round schedules are defined. Usually they

736
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:37.480
are consecutive rounds, forgive a reciprocal
visit and if they are more than two

737
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:42.800
countries that are becoming, the countries
how the dynamics of the texts will be,

738
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.320
that is, if there are thirty
texts of negotiation, who presents texts

739
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:52.000
in which chapters, if they present
only one or present the two, how

740
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:57.599
the communication will be during the negotiation, who are the points of contact to

741
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:01.320
follow up on all the logistics of
the bare negotiation. All that' s

742
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:06.760
happened. The whole process of pre- negotiation was defined as four major themes.

743
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.559
Trade in goods, trade in services, investment, international trade issues and

744
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:15.000
legal and institutional matters. Legal,
institutional and studyal issues, with which are

745
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:19.800
trade in goods is basically access to
the market of goods, rules of origin,

746
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.679
procedures of origin and commercial facilitation.
Trade of investment service are the general

747
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:28.800
chapter of trades of services, the
chapter of investment, trade, forgiveness,

748
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:34.719
financial services, telecommunications and entrance,
the temporary of people, tengocios and topics

749
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:38.480
of international trade. They are all
the others, the new health media issues,

750
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:43.320
fictionary ones, or they are with
the terno of commerce, trade remedies,

751
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:49.000
government purchases, dispute settlement, commercial
companies of the State, all the

752
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.559
other chapters were put in the big
drawer of international trade issues. They are

753
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:57.360
all international trade issues. But,
well, that' s what this fourth

754
01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:05.119
drawer was called in bilateral negotiations and
it' s made very little substantive progress.

755
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.239
It seems to me that from July
two thousand twenty- two to May

756
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:12.639
two thousand twenty- three have happened
three rounds of negotiation. We can'

757
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:17.960
t know much because there are almost
no meetings of the fourth together Approximately there

758
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:25.199
are thirty negotiating groups that coincide with
the more or less TIPAT negotiating issues And

759
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.519
there have been, for example,
in the first round initial discussions in the

760
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.599
second round of what I could learn
from people who were in these. In

761
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:39.280
those briefings, we already shared the
original texts of each other in the different

762
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:45.360
chapters where we wanted to present text. And in the third round there was

763
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:52.519
already consolidation of texts and identification of
sensitive issues, which is the consolidation of

764
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.119
texts. If I, Mexico,
present a text in telecommunications and in the

765
01:01:55.119 --> 01:02:00.480
United Kingdom presents a text in telecommunications. What we do in the ocean we

766
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:04.960
put together the two texts in a
single world archive and put the items that

767
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.960
look like together with Mexican Corchetes for
what is from Mexico, United Kingdom cars

768
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:13.920
for what is the United Kingdom.
And so we' re doing as an

769
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.679
amalgamated text, full of carriages of
things that look alike and things that don

770
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:20.039
' t look so much alike.
And what follows is already clear that it

771
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.119
is known in the negotiation as cleaning
the text, which is to go removing

772
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:28.320
brackets, arguing, exchanging one quota
for the other and so until the texts

773
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:34.519
are completely negotiated. We are just
putting together the texts presented in round two,

774
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:37.480
in round three and are already beginning
to identify some issues that are going

775
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:43.119
to be complicated in the negotiation.
A fourth round to be defined is missing.

776
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:49.239
And one topic I have also noticed
about this negotiation is that there are

777
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.800
virtual meetings. When it comes to
Mexico going to the UK, I guess

778
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:57.360
it' s about austerity. Rounds
in Mexico are face- to- face

779
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:01.880
and rounds outside Mexico. The second
round outside Mexico was virtual. Sometimes this

780
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:06.960
is useful in the initial rounds,
as there is no big problem in the

781
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:14.119
final defining rounds. This does affect
whether we need the pace to face,

782
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:19.719
as it is said in English,
at face- to- face meetings to

783
01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:21.880
define the last issues of a negotiation, the most sensitive issues. There is

784
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:28.679
no such thing as a face-
to- face process to resolve the negotiations

785
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:34.840
already in their most critical phase,
and that is basically what I have to

786
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:40.760
share. There' s my personal
email and my X account. It'

787
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:45.920
s no longer called Twitter, it' s already called x forgiveness. I

788
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:51.480
lacked a thematic g, but well, that' s a little what I

789
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:58.239
wanted to share with you and,
of course, open to your comments,

790
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:08.239
because here are some questions. Memo
this as always here, they say that

791
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:13.679
excellent presentation and is asking them arming. In his view, what is it,

792
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.360
what is the size of the market, the type and the extent to

793
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:21.639
which trade in goods will be promoted, and that he is struck by the

794
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:27.159
suspended dispute settlement provision in which staff
appear to be basic in international trade.

795
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:33.039
Thanks for the size of the broads. We already know. When you get

796
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.760
the UK you' re going to
have a market of 500 million people,

797
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:41.400
they' re going to represent 13
percent of the world diff. And that

798
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:44.079
' s where I put it 15
percent of the world' s top and

799
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:45.519
13 percent of the world' s
trade. For Mexico, for example,

800
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.480
the entry of the United Kingdom is
important. The United Kingdom is currently Mexico

801
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:56.039
' s 16th trading partner in terms
of trade and is the and and is

802
01:04:56.119 --> 01:05:02.039
the sixth largest. Let' s
say investment exporter to Mexico, let'

803
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.960
s say the sixth most important source
of investment is the United Kingdom. So

804
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:10.760
it is an important agreement to incorporate
the United Kingdom, either through the tipat

805
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:15.800
or through the bilateral. It is
important for Mexico, it is important for

806
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:18.119
tipat because, since the United Kingdom
is the sixth economy in the world and

807
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:23.880
is also part of the GST.
Then he has a power, he has

808
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:28.000
an important place in the world.
It is no coincidence that it is the

809
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.119
first country in which it had its
accession working group and I think it will

810
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:35.239
be very relevant. And a clarification
on the second part of the question.

811
01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:40.000
It is not that the dispute settlement
provision, i e the TPT dispute settlement

812
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:44.679
chapter for the tipat, has been
removed. What was removed was a provision

813
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:50.519
on how to settle telecommunications disputes and
there were three ways to resolve telecommunications disputes.

814
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:58.719
One was by the courts, by
the courts, which, in the

815
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:01.400
case of Mexico, with the reform
of communications, already specialized in telecommunications and

816
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:08.760
competition. Another was, through one
I no longer remember very well, it

817
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:17.000
was like an appeal from a decision
of one authority and another was like amparo.

818
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:21.400
I believe that under the telecommunications reform
of two thousand and thirteen, indirect

819
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:27.480
protection in telecommunications is no longer allowed
and that this was the change. And

820
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:30.119
the third one that was no longer
possible, I think is the possibility of

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administrative review of a hipetel decision can
no longer be reviewed. That is the

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01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:41.239
third way to settle a dispute,
which was to request the administrative review of

823
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:45.599
the body that had decided something is
what can no longer be done in Mexican

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01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.760
law. I mean, I'
m not a lawyer and I' m

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01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:54.320
breaking up by doing a silly thing, but that' s pretty much how

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01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:58.079
I remember it, and that particular
part was already tested at Teput when it

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01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.360
came to Mexico, because we couldn' t take it off anymore we couldn

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01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:01.119
' t say it on a footer. I think Singapore, I said no,

829
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:05.400
this provision does not apply Singapore.
Mexico could no longer do that because

830
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:10.079
we were new to the negotiation.
We couldn' t take it off.

831
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We were able to remove it until
the U S got out of the negotiation

832
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:19.440
and then we suspended that little part
of the administrative review. And they also

833
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:25.800
ask them here that, in your
opinion, why the United States went out,

834
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.639
what was the reason, because in
the United States I didn' t

835
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:34.519
want to participate in the Treaty.
It was basically a project of President Obama

836
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:41.440
and was a battle horse of President
Trump' s campaign. He said that

837
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I don' t know if they
remember he said that the negotiators of the

838
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.440
United States were terrible, that he
always won everything he took to the dance

839
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:54.039
to the United States in the negotiations, that the TPP was going to be

840
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:58.639
even a worse idea because it was
with Asian countries that normally, because they

841
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:00.840
made many traps, and that we
already had a huge deficit with Mexico,

842
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.239
Canada and China and that now,
with the guy, we were going to

843
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.960
have more trade deficits. Trump today
was very concerned about trade deficits and then

844
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:14.519
his whole campaign was dedicated to mistreating
the TPP. And then the first thing

845
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:18.640
he did when he had the power, was basically get out of a political

846
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:28.399
decision. There' s going to
be a very particular ideology of the President

847
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:32.199
and I don' t know if
Ahorita, you could tell us about the

848
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:38.840
issues that are overwhelming, that are
negotiating more or less what you' ve

849
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:41.000
been told, because it' s
very green as just in the third round

850
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.439
the texts were put together. Right
now, as I can imagine, there

851
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.880
hasn' t even been text cleaning. In other words, what has happened

852
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:53.279
is we put all the texts that
are similar in one document all full of

853
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:58.840
square brackets. It is very difficult
to read and you begin to distinguish where

854
01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:02.760
the texts look like, because it
is very similar texts, sticky ones and

855
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:08.119
then texts that are radically different also
there together so that they do where there

856
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:11.439
are those differences. So, that' s why round three says in some

857
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:16.960
report that went into my eyes that
barely the texts have been consolidated and the

858
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.720
greatest sensitivities have been identified, but
the real negotiation has not even begun.

859
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:27.520
The texts are together. You know
pretty much what the big problems are.

860
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:30.840
And I don' t know.
I don' t know what the big

861
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:35.600
problems are. I' d love
to know. And the negotiation is not

862
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:39.760
yet beginning, which is a little
bit cleaning up the texts one by one.

863
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:44.920
We are still going to have to
wait, because, moreover, I

864
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:49.680
do not see how much haste in
this Treaty and because we are just going

865
01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:53.720
in the round, in the round, in round three, there is no

866
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.800
date for round four. And it
seems to me that with the change in

867
01:09:56.840 --> 01:10:02.800
the Ministry of Economy, even one
more step was dropped to the disinterest in

868
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:09.520
international trade. Thank you so much. Hey, in this one I want

869
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:20.479
there would be the microphone for the
panelists who want to make some comment Enrique

870
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:26.800
yes, very serious how interesting this
whole case, as I like how they

871
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:29.880
take all these cotus. In this
group of eleven or twelve countries, there

872
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:35.319
are some r there is some leader
who is the one who manages everything or

873
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:40.039
covers everything up. And there is
a formal leader, who is the depositary,

874
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:44.600
who is New Zealand. And,
in addition, New Zealand played a

875
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.319
very interesting role as a viderazgo.
He forgot to say, for example,

876
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:53.199
that a very interesting dynamic of the
negotiation of the first twelve of TPP,

877
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.640
because now there were very different countries
in the approaches of negotiation, in the

878
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:03.680
styles of negotiation, in the sizes
of economies and, for example, things

879
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:08.159
that we were negotiating as a drawer, that is, many texts of Mexico,

880
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:11.840
if you look over the years,
are very similar. They are practically

881
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.800
the same on some topics. Well, in this TPP exercise it was quite

882
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:20.760
a challenge for the negotiators. It
was like our graduation, because Australia and

883
01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:27.079
New Zealand came with some very interesting
questions, that is, to see why

884
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:28.920
you' re doing it. Not
that, because then it wasn' t

885
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.720
always worth that answer. Of course, you have to explain where it comes

886
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:35.439
from. Then we had to expound
in many houses how it had been the

887
01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:40.039
decision to have a particular approach and
not the other one, because they came

888
01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:44.319
from another vision. Then we tested
ourselves. It was a very good intellectual

889
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:48.640
accident, because we tried to justify
each and every provision we had in our

890
01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:55.920
chapters. Australia and Nubarcelona have a
very particular leadership in tipas. Then Japan

891
01:11:56.079 --> 01:12:01.279
also took very important leadership when it
left for the United States. It was

892
01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:05.439
the one who said to see we' re going to meet quickly, we

893
01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:09.840
' re going to meet here in
jacon and I think it was the meeting

894
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:10.479
in Japan, in Japan when it
was said we' re going to save

895
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:14.399
ourselves. Effort. This has got
to be something we can' t lose

896
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:16.640
a momentum of this we just did. We have to have a quick and

897
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.239
forceful negotiation, and that' s
what we' re going to do,

898
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:20.800
it' s better to remove depositions
that are from the United States. It

899
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:26.760
was decided at the initiative of Japan. Then Japan has an important idea also

900
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:32.359
non- formal in the negotiation.
Yeah, I think so, that'

901
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:39.279
s interesting. Congratulations, it'
s a very good presentation and so that

902
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:45.279
you continue in this and give it
what interesting process. Thank you, thank

903
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:51.520
you, thank you, Enrique,
good night view. Thank you, Dani

904
01:12:51.520 --> 01:13:02.600
Guillermo, many greetings, my Enrique
Doctor. Practically the experience we had as

905
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:09.399
the TPP and Rock And Pack Mexico
served us a lot for tech ME to

906
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:15.319
reassure Donald Front. Yes, because
practically everything we had done was already the

907
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:18.880
TPP, because it was practically a
copy for the technic and, as it

908
01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:27.359
was, as you had rightly said, it was a political position for his

909
01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:32.640
arrival and it was the first action
he had as President on 20 January of

910
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:36.560
16 then, because that we already
had a lot of ground to be able

911
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:42.439
to do the TEC. That would
be my comment. Thank you for your

912
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:48.399
congratulations, Guillermo. Thank you,
and to close another maxim, want to

913
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:56.640
make something a good comment, because
of course, William, many congratulations.

914
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:04.720
This really did not give anything more
a teaching and you gave us two because

915
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:10.840
you opened us up from the TPPE
and you went also with the one from

916
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:15.760
Britain, which is very important,
after leaving the European Union, of course

917
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:21.960
it becomes when you leave the European
Union with 27 countries and he becomes a

918
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:30.560
lone lanner. And it is indeed
very important to achieve this Free Trade Agreement

919
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:40.439
with Britain and Mexico, because it
puts us in a position to have Europe

920
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:47.720
' s leading countries again. Undeniably
Britain is one of the leading countries Germany,

921
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:57.000
France, England. I believe that
the European Community is the most important.

922
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:04.239
So I wish and don' t
stop. Let us hope and see

923
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:13.159
all the benefits that this Treaty can
give us as we have left the European

924
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:18.359
Union. Of course, this one
stayed too and I was going to ask

925
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:25.600
you, but you answered it.
Why Britain, which does not have a

926
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:32.960
Pacific coast and I thought and think, perhaps, because of its colonial background.

927
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:43.119
Many of the countries that are in
New Zealand, Australia, Singapore,

928
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:48.640
in short, were part of the
common Low the great market that Britain had

929
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:56.520
in England with all its colonies.
Right, so maybe. There is also

930
01:15:56.640 --> 01:16:03.039
a historical reason that there have been
countries like the ones you mentioned, if

931
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:08.399
the ones I just mentioned, to
be able to accept Britain and it makes

932
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:15.199
me a certain definitely, thanks for
the extraordinary talk, as always that you

933
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:23.640
teach us that you are very punctual
and your films extraordinarily very didactic, And

934
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:33.119
thank you so much for continuing on
TV and teaching us, Guillermo a hug

935
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:36.279
thanks to giving many thanks for this
great talk and good from all the telesemagas

936
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:40.279
team in Mexico. We arrived at
a truck that we believed before this virtual

937
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:44.319
recognition, Master Guillermo Malpica, to
make a track in the vital conversation with

938
01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:46.359
the subject the United Kingdom wants.
P seventeen ago until two thousand twenty-

939
01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:50.239
three and I go for so much
of the afternoon and there will be many

940
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:56.039
graces. Vamo thank you, Danie
Nach taste as always, thank you for

941
01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:59.319
your questions. On the contrary,
it was an honor for us that you

942
01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:01.880
would be with us and we sent
you a virtual applause, just like a

943
01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:10.279
hug over there. Thank you very
much and recognition, yes, a recognition.

944
01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:15.520
I' m sending it virtually to
him by recognition as well. Thank

945
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:19.680
you very much and well, we
have Wednesday if you help me to join

946
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:25.000
us. Good memo, we'
re going to have corporate credit insurance with

947
01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:29.159
engineer José Sánchez. Nuño is going
to be very interesting to see for example,

948
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:33.079
all importers and exporters who can have
a negotiation and need business insurance and

949
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:36.920
will talk to us a little bit
about when they apply. And let'

950
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:42.199
s also see topics of his employment
with the teacher Gilberto Martínez, also with

951
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.600
this labor issue that is high,
that also the companies have to start it

952
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.800
already. And, well, we' re gonna be talking about these issues.

953
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:53.000
We see each other as usual at
six o' clock in the afternoon,

954
01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:54.680
downtown time, five o' clock
in the afternoon, time for peace.

955
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:58.239
Thank you all so much for making
a trout. Thank you, Mebo,

956
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:02.239
thank you, Henry, Doctor Maximo. Thank you very much as greetings

957
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:11.279
to the great absent, Thanks to
the walk, Thank you, grace connects.

958
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:18.119
Thank you very much. Bus We' ve reached the end of today

959
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:23.199
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much for accompanying us this was to make

960
01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:26.560
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961
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.439
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962
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:35.359
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964
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:47.800
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965
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:51.840
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