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sexual violence against adults, children,
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Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm
Tanya, and together we are Crimes and

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Consequences, a true crime podcast.
Hi everyone, welcome to this episode of

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Crimes and Consequences. I'm Talia and
I'm Tanya, my lovely co host,

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and I have a great story for
you all today. I mean, shouldn't

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say great. Yeah, you know
what we mean. But yeah, this

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story has a lot of twists and
turns, and sometimes things aren't always what

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they seem. That's ominous. Ominous. I'm gonna tell you about the Trover

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family. The Trover family exemplified the
quintessential, wholesome all American family. They

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had There was a father and that
he had a wife, and there was

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a daughter and a son, and
everything was going really well for them.

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John was the dad and Cheryl Trover
was the mom, but she went by

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Sherry, okay, and they lived
this just so you know, this happens

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in December of nineteen ninety eight,
and this quintessential family first in a shocking

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but let me explain. They lived
in this very small town. It's called

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Gillette and it's in Wyoming. I
think I had like, well seventeen thousand

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people, which isn't I guess all
that small considering where I grew up.

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Yeah, there were like two two
people. It's a coal mining town.

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Like I said, there's about seventeen
thousand people. It's surrounded by rolling prairies

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and antelopes would roam free, like
I mean, we're in Wyoming. Yeah,

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have you been, No, I
say when I picture Wyoming, though,

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there's a lot of I've been there, land and mountains and yeah,

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animals, yea natural nature nature.
The trop family was well known around town.

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I mean everybody liked them. The
parents, for example, Sherry,

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she was a math teacher at one
of the high schools. And John worked

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at a coal like for a coal
mining company. But he wasn't a coal

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miner. He did like office work
okay, okay, and he was he

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was an accountant for them. He
had been previously married once and he had

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an older daughter. And I don't
know if I said that. They had

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two children. One was named Tory
Okay, she's thirteen. And then they

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had a son, and his name
was Jackson and he's ten. So John

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had been married before he had custody
of his older daughter. I believe her

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name was Brooke. I'm not one
hundred percent sure. It was very hard

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to find information on this case,
and there's a reason why, but I'll

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talk about that later. So John's
forty three, Sherry is thirty eight.

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They got two children. You know, she's elementary school math teacher. He's

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gotten an accountant job. Everything is
good and in public, everything seemed fine

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with the family. There's nothing to
know. They were just a normal family.

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However, on Friday, December fourth
of nineteen ninety eight, that's when

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something horrendous happens. Yes changed,
That's when the bubble. So the Trorer

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family, it's a Friday night.
They want to go out teat. They're

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going to go out tea, so
they decide to go to this local sports

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bar. It's called Humphrey's Bar and
Girl. It's maybe ten minutes away from

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their house. It's not far.
They go there, they're having dinner and

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when they get done, they head
back to their home and it's on Granite

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Street. The home is just to
describe it a little bit, it's two

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stories. It's twenty eight hundred square
feet. It actually has five bedrooms,

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two bathrooms. Yeah, two bathrooms. But in America, it's kind of

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like your normal house, right,
that's kind of big. Twenty one hundred

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square feet is big. Okay,
Well, I'm just saying. I'm just

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saying. I mean, I mean
five bedrooms. That's a big house.

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I know. I don't know how
they have five bedrooms and twenty eight hundred

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square feet though. Yeah, but
they also had a basement, so maybe

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there was a budget. Yeah.
So they get home, it's Friday night,

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it's about ten thirty. What are
the kids do? They go to

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the rooms. That's what I would
have done. They're done, Yeah,

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hanging out with mom and dad.
I already hung out with mom and dad,

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did my time. I'm done.
So John decides he's going to get

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ready for bed, and Sherry is
like cleaning up around the house, locking

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the doors, shutting the lights off, doing whatever moms do at the end

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of the day, which you all, you know, cleaning up all the

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messes and cleaning up everybody else's along
with my own, right, And so

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she shuts up the lights, locks
the doors, and John goes into the

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master bedroom suite and then somebody starts
knocking on the door and John goes to

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open the door because Sherry is somewhere, maybe in the basement, I don't

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know. And he's he's wearing his
box or shorts, but he's very cautious,

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Okay, he's not just like a
wide open And he does open the

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door, and when he does,
there is somebody wearing a mask in overalls,

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and immediately John gets attacked by this
person and they're struggling. Nobody else

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in the house can hear it.
I don't know the layout of the house,

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but nobody could hear it. But
then this intruder fired two shots at

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John. One struck him in his
arm and the other was his head,

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but neither one was life threatening,
so I don't know exactly where it hit

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him in the hud, but it
did damage but not enough to kill him.

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Okay, he wasn't dead. He
managed eventually to get up and stumble

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slowly around the living room, but
it took a while. It took a

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little bit. I mean, there's
probably shock going on for him, and

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he's bleeding and he's like what that? Yeah, what what the hell is

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going on? The intruder shifted his
focus onto the children, and he went

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into the rooms and he tied their
hands and their feet together so they couldn't

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move, and then they could hear
like a stirring. The children could around

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the house noises, arguing, voices
arguing, but they were bound and they

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were gagged too. Sherry, here's
the commotion, and from wherever she is,

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and I don't know where she was
at the time, she bumps into

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the intruder and he restrains her.
Similarly, he's got her hands and her

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feet bound. And eventually, as
I was saying, so you have Sherry

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bound, you have Tory bound,
and then you have Jackson bound, and

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you have John who's been shot in
the arm and shot in the head.

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John is stumbling now around the house. So the intruder realizes like John's getting

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up and decides to spend his attention
on John because John isn't dead. The

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intruder retreat a knife, and I'm
not sure where the knife came from,

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but I believe it was a hunting
knife. I don't know if it was

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brought at the scene or there's,
like I said, minimum information on this

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case. For a reason. He
was stabbed multiple times and then his throat

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was cut o man, and then
he was dragged from the main living room

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into the family's basement. Okay,
and that's where he was actually finished off.

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Was in the basement. That's where
the throat being cut happened. This

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intruder decides to take Sherry and put
her in the family truck and drive off.

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That had to be terrifying. Yeah, with her kids tied up and

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her husband, she probably didn't even
know where he was. I mean,

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so she's bound, she's gagged.
The intruder walks her into their own truck

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and he secures her. He puts
a seatbelt done okay, just for safety

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reasons, I don't know. And
he drives her to this secluded place and

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it's in the southern part of Jellette. It's it's known as like South Road.

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Okay. So this truck comes to
a halt and then Sherry is forcibly

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well why she's sitting there. Her
clothes are like ripped from her while she's

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restrained, which is strange, okay, And she couldn't defend herself, and

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then she was raped after she was
I mean, Sherry fought really hard for

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the record, just want everybody to
know that she managed to escape. Wow,

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which is amazing, amazing because her
feet in her hands are bound and

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she runs from the truck and the
intruder chases her into the woods, but

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somehow or somehow she escapes. The
assailant decides give up the chase and light

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the truck on fire. What but
he didn't do a good job, Like

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I don't know, I don't know
how he did it, like try to.

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But it did catch on fire,
but it wasn't like a huge blaze.

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It was just enough to eventually,
at five am, catch the attention

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of some passerbys and they noticed that
this truck is on fire, and they

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actually put out the fire. They
did. Yeah right, that wouldn't be

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my first reaction. No, I
just feel like nine to one more.

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Yeah right, No, they put
out the fire. So it had only

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been a few minutes since that fire
was started that they put out the fire.

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And then as they're doing that,
they discover Sherry and she is hiding

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naked in this covert nearby. Her
hands again and feet are bound, and

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she's hysterical. She recounted her ordeal
to them and they immediately contacted. It's

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called Campbell County, the Sheriff's Department
to report the incident. Sherry provided law

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enforcement with a detailed account of the
events that transpired at our home. She's

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an the assault by her attacker,
who is, by the way, wearing

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a mask. Nothing more scary than
opening the door and there's someone with a

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fucking mask. Following her testimony in
the description of the assailant, there was

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this manhunt launched and fifty detectives.
I mean, this is a small area.

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You have to remember, we're helping
out trying to figure this out because

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this is scary. There were sheriffs, detect deputies, police officers, members

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of the Wyoming I'm sorry, my
phone is going off. I'm just gonna

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be honest. I shut off the
volume. Sure you did, I did,

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but it's going off. But we're
not gonna We're not gonna let but

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traditionally it is not work. But
I'm you know, I want to turn

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it up. Mine never goes off. No, you're beeped the other day

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once. Okay, Okay, anyway, it doesn't matter. It's one of

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your quirks that I love so much. I know I don't understand it anyway.

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Can I just go on, yes? Please? Okay, So we

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have what the Wyoming Highway Patrol fire
agencies. They have two airplanes, two

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search dogs. You've got the share
of. Their primary objective was to locate

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this person that Sherry described as being
dark skinned. It was a dark skinned

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man who had allegedly fled on foot. Sherry believes she recognized him and he

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was from minds for John Morton.
She also told police officers that John had

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been receiving, and this is true, threatening phone calls from a woman who

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was very upset because rumors were going
on the mind was going to close,

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and he's the accountant, and so
he was getting in the weeks before his

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death, these threatening phone calls,
but he didn't report him. Not his

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fault, I know, it's not
his I know account they're just pissed.

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I mean, this woman would call
repeatedly with threats. So after Sherry gets

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discovered and she you know, she's
talking to police, the police go to

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her house, right and when they
get there, they see the lifeless body

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of John Trover and he just he's
covered in blood. I mean, he's

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bent, his throat's been slit,
he's been stay dab shot shot twice.

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Uh. The medical examiner revealed that
John had suffered gunshot wounds to his arm

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had and then multiple stab wounds to
his upper tors and then those wounds had

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punctured his lung and his heart and
then his throat slip. In the bedrooms,

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they found thirteen year old Tory bound
on the bed, and then they

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found ten year old Jackson bound on
the bed, but they weren't harmed.

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And when the police initially saw them, they said they could hear struggling outside

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of their bedroom doors. So police
and investigators from the Wyoming State Crime Lab,

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they conducted a thorough search of the
Trover property right humming through the scene.

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Need to know what happened. Sherry
meanwhile, is taking to the hospital.

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She under went a thorough medical examination. She only ended up with minor

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abrasions and I think that's from just
being like bound during the attack. By

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mid morning, so this happened Friday
night, Okay, by mid morning Saturday,

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she was released from the hospital.
And of course they're not gonna go

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home. It's a crime scene,
right right, No, I yeah,

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I wouldn't want to go home.
And no, no, no, they

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went to TJ and Kim Ferguson's house
and that was their friends. So they're

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staying at the Ferguson residence. This
is a Saturday. Investigators are, you

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know, continuing to question Sherry and
the children regarding this masked assailant who had

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you know, killed their dad.
Recognizing the the Sheriff's department recognized the importance

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of the safety of this family,
so they ended up having officers like surround

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the house just in case the perpetrator
because he's still on the loose, right,

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he's still on the loose, his
back. Yeah. When they were

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doing the search of the Trover family
home, they found a gun in the

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bushes by the neighbor the Riley's home. Okay, Okay, they found a

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gun. I mean it was a
twenty two caliber pistol and it was same

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with blood and other tissue I'm biological
fluids. Okay, okay. They identified

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it as the murder weapon based on
the autopsy because it was a twenty two

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caliber that had been used and when
the investigated like the gun's background, they

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really realized it belonged to a man
named John Riley, the neighbor. John

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Riley, the neighbor. He was
also a principal at the same school that

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Sherry worked at. Oh oh that
added a whole new dimension to this,

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like what principal. Yeah, I'm
starting to feel a little uneasy about this

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now, I mean that I was. It raised a lot of questions about

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did John Riley have something to do
with this? I mean it's his gun,

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right, And does he work at
the same school. Yes, he's

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a principal, same high school.
It seems kind of weird. But John

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Riley was out of town. Oh
really, he was an Arizona hmmm.

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He was a principal of Campbell County
High School. And just so you know,

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the Riley family and the Trover family, they were really close. They

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were neighbors, They had kids near
the same age. They would spend Thanksgiving

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together, Christmas together. They would
alternate like whose house, Wow, this

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is? You know is going to
be a house very close, right,

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And that is where Sherry was employed
as a math teacher. So they're very

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close. They're celebrating holidays. But
John Riley, he's at a town.

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They call him up and he's like, you can search my house. I

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didn't have anything to do with this. While I'm in shock, and he

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mentions to them that he has given
the key to his house to so many

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people so many people because it's friends. I don't even know who is Key's

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in my house nine and I've made
like nine and they're all gone. I

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don't know between my kids and probably
I don't know. But he's like searched

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my house. And you did mention
that one of the people that has keiths

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or one of the persons was Sherry
and John Trover. Okay, and then

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he mentioned something else. Uh oh, here it comes. He'd been having

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an affair with Sherry for four years. Four years. I knew it.

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I knew it. I didn't want
to accuse no Ah, shit, okay,

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uh oh oh shit. But he's
out of town, is he though?

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Did they confirm that? Okay,
don't don't. Don't ask me questions

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like you asked to hold me.
During the search of his house, they

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found another handgun, and they sees
that this is pretty unexpected because I mean,

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this adds a lot of dynamics.
Damn. Forty years and it's found

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in his bushes and it's his gun. It's his gun, and he's been

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he's been bang in Sherry for four
years. They're close, real close.

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So the police decide they're going to
have they're going to continue to interrogate Sherry

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and the children about everything that happened. And they're going to hold a press

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conference. A press conference, oh, because the guy's on the loose still

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right, right? Yeah? So
this is Friday night. The press conference

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is Sunday, December sixth, nineteen
ninety eight. The chief of police,

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he wants to be proactive and he
wants to address the public and let him

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know they're safe. Okay, oh
wait, wait, there's a guy who

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murdered someone on a loose, but
we're all safe. Don't worry about it.

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Yeah, you're saying, and he
says in this press conference tomorrow,

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I'm going to have another press conference
and you're going to be shocked at what

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I tell you. Oh, talk
about putting people out of cliffhanger. He's

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going to divulge more a ton am
at a news conference, and the revelations

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are going to shock the community.
Was he running a tabloid? Right?

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Like? I'm thinking, oh,
you wait till tomorrow. His goal was

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to have the community feel confident and
comfortable that they weren't at risk. I

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would just be talking about it.
What the hell is he going to say

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tomorrow? Yeah? Right? What
there's a mass murderer on thee stay safe,

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real safe. So the school prepares
counselors for I mean this, it's

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a big deal. It's a small
area, and it's the principal, right,

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I mean, so they've got counselors
and they're gonna counsel about John Trevor's

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Oh, not the principal probably like
yeah, the teacher, I mean yeah,

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yeah, the school. Yeah,
not the principal. Yeah, not

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the principle. Sorry, well he's
the principal. There are three high schools,

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so he's only the principle of one. So maybe the superintendent I should

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say, well, it's something that
affects the community, right, right,

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And they had makeshift up crisis centers
for people, staff by you know,

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professional counselors, and they range to
set it all up before class started on

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Monday Sunday. Please tell Sherry they
found Hey, we found the gun.

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And great. Throughout the weekend,
she'd been in consistent contact with them and

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both and the children, sharing everything
they know she was. They were all

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eager to assist, even though they
were they were traumatized. I mean,

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oh yeah. But one of the
things when they found the gun on Sunday,

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they told Sherry they found her fingerprints
on it. Oh shit, oh

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shit, And she said, well, I'm always at that house. I've

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got a key. I can explain
it. Sure, sure, sure,

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Oh we got an explanation for that. And then she said, Okay,

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the mask man made me shoot John. Okay, that's why my fingerprints are

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on it. Stop it. This
is getting fishier and fishier. The investigators

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assured Sherry, we are going to
get to the bottom of the Yes,

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it's gonna be okay. They visited
the home of Sherry's friends and where her

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children and she'd been staying, and
they did another interview and Cherry was very

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visibly upset during I don't want to
call it an interrogation, an interview.

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Sensing they could to all teut like
she was getting hysterical, she asked if

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she could have a moment alone,
and she retreated to the Ferguson's master suite,

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their bedroom, locking the door behind
her. There, she found a

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to seventy caliber rifle in the closet. Oh no, what, I don't

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know. To seventy caliber rifle,
point to seven zero caliber rifle in the

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closet, and she loaded it and
she went into their bathroom and she killed

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herself. Are you kidding me?
No, her children, her parents,

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her siblings, her husband's parents,
and her friends and the police were all

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there and she shot herself in the
hud. Oh my god. Oh shit,

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that's because the house the cards are
falling right. Oh shit. And

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so the police rushed in, they
break down the door and they find Sherry

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dead. These poor kids, Oh
my god, these poor children. So

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Monday, the suicide is announced.
I mean, they just thy god.

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They've got those counselors. The associate
principle, his name is Bill Peters of

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Campbell County High School that's where she
worked. He before school started, he

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had all of the employees from Campbell
County High School and some of the other

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schools get their early to talk about
it and talk about how to handle it

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and let them know. Some didn't
even know, and they were provided in

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like an extra hour to collect themselves. There were sixteen hundred students and obviously

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it's pretty well, that's pretty fopped
up. Yeah, that's it's something to

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walk into. Matthew killed herself,
Yeah, and her husband was murdered and

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yeah, it's crazy. Wow.
So there's that news conference. Oh yeah,

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that's morning. Now the sheriffs.
He's got even more information to share.

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Campbell County Sheriff's office had a press
conference at ten am. They said

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there was one suspect in the case, and that was Sherry Trover. Wow.

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And then they said she killed herself. She was the only suspect.

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They believe. They think she did
the whole thing out, her kids up

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and everything. Oh yeah, girl, I'm not done, Okay. They

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believe she'd been planning it for months. Wow, the chief. The chief

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said, quote, our investigation has
conclusively revealed that Cheryl Trover was responsible for

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the death of her husband. Holy
shit. She'd been described as a delightful

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wife, mother, and a teacher. And how she could do this a

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shocking Yeah, so this is what
they think happened. First of all,

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she's been calling, disguising her voice
and threatening her husband. She was the

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one. She was the one,
okay, calling giant work making the threatening

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calls. Mm hmmm. This is
insane in advance, So that's premeditated,

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right right. Investigators disclosed that the
family went to Homphrey's Bar and Grill on

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Friday night and then they all settled
in for the night. As the children

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went to their own rooms, and
John went to the master bedroom. They

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believe that Sherry had already retrieved the
twenty two caliber because she knew that the

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man she was having an affair with, the principal name John Riley, was

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out of town and she had a
key. Oh yeah, that's right,

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and she could just go and help
herself. Helped herself to go get the

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gun. She'd taken it from his
residence. She then, with bare hand,

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put a mask on in overalls.
She knocked on the door. John

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opened it, and she shot him
twice in the hud and once in the

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arm. So she missed one time, though she tried twice, shot him

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once in the hud and then once
in the arm. He was down to

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the count for a little bit.
Right. Then she went to her children's

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room. That's what I'm wondering,
Like, she went to her children's room.

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She's got this this mask on,
she's got gloves, she's got overalls,

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and she disguises her voice. Really, you don't recognize your mom's voice.

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I would My mom could try to
sound like mister T and I would

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still recognize, right, yeah,
you would think. And she bound there.

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She scared them so much with the
mask and stuff, maybe they just

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weren't thinking bound their hands and she
together and gagged them and left them on

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the fence. But you know,
it's interesting. When the investigators came,

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the children said they think their mom
might have been the person. They believed

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that they could kind of recognize her
voice and like just the shape of her

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body. Yeah, like it's the
person you see every single day of your

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life, and it gets weirder.
They also noted that the voice that was

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used resembled their mom's voice when she
was mad. Oh oh, that the

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you know, the mad mom voice, attention to your life when your whole

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government name right. But despite everything
that happened, they thought maybe it was

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just some twisted game their mom was
playing. They didn't I mean, they

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didn't know. You wouldn't think your
Yeah, you don't think your mom's gonna

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like murder your dad. She's a
mad teacher. She never done anything to

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you, right, So, they
later recounted hearing gunshots, but initially mistook

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them for sounds of They didn't know
what it was. They just didn't know.

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They probably got like airds on.
I don't know if they had them

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back their music. Whatever. They're
not paying attention, they're like, whatever

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mom and dad are doing right now, I couldn't been watching TV in thething.

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But throughout the ordeal, the children
heard this is so strange, various

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noises outside their bedroom, including what
they interpreted as their mother alternating her voice

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between different tones to potentially create the
illusion that there were other people there.

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This is insane? Is that fucking
yes? Soon? Right? And you

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still sound like yourself? Right?
These poor kids, they're like, I

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like how they didn't check though,
and like this is weird, but I'm

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not going outside my room and I'm
so tight up. Yeah, And apparently

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this happened for hours, hours,
hours, because she ended up going back

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and seeing that John was stumbling oh
yeah, and then kind of in the

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basement. Yeah, I wonder how
she got him down there. She dragged

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him, She dragged him and then
stabbed him and then slid his throat.

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Jeez. Then she made up the
whole story about being abducted and going in

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rape. She said she was raped, but the I'm assuming like maybe they

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did. I never heard about a
rape kit. There's so little to find

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on this case because she killed herself, so she couldn't be prosecuted. Yeah,

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and if she's not prosecuted. There's
not going to be the police reports

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that we usually get on these cases. Yeah, so Sherry ends up after

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killing John getting inty. Are we
gonna say allegedly now because there's been no

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trial in conviction she's dead. Yeah, that's true. Okay, go on,

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I'm sorry. She got into the
truck and went to the south part

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of Gillette and then she removed her
clothes and she put the mask, the

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gloves, the overalls, some boots, and the hunting knife in the cab

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of the truck. And that's why
she tried to let light the truck on

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fire. Okay, but people came
by and put it out and put it

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out. She's probably like, oh
fuck, she's trying to burn evidence.

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Yeah, so she ignites the truck. Then it gets thwarted because these people

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come, and so she's like once
the culvert and acts like she's all was

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she tied up? Really? Yeah? She was by herself. Yeah,

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get away from someone still being tied
up, like at least your legs,

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like you can't run. She's hopping
away like getting away from an assailant.

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No. Yeah, that's a good, that's a good. But I didn't

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want to bring it up at the
time. I thought it though, So

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I'm like, I'm gonna see where
the story goes. I think she lit

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it on fire and thought it would
burn, and then like went to the

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culvert. Yeah, tied herself up, naked, that teacher naked, and

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then they came and they found her
in the ditch. She knew obviously the

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gig was up. Yeah, so
that's why she killed herself. But they

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think that the reason why she did
it is because she was in love with

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the principal. Yeah, I figured. And during her husband's first marriage,

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I told you he had a daughter. Oh ye older. He got either

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fifty to fifty custody or soul custody. I don't know. I know custody

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was a factor, and she was
really nervous about losing her kids part of

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the time. That's a great reason
for killing your spouse. So this well

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crafted murder, what a mess,
really poorly executed. I'm sorry. Yeah,

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and can you imagine right in the
community found out man math teacher,

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I know, with the principal scandalous
then bound her children, Yes, killed

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her husband, Yeah, faked the
rape. So the principal, he was

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really in Arizona. He was okay, thankfully. On Tuesday, December eighth,

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he resigned, Yeah, citing personal
and professional reasons. Yeah, and

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he addressed his former colleagues and offered
words of encouragement. He was just so,

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you know, never considered to be
a part of this at all.

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He eventually moved away from Gillette,
Wyoming. It's probably good idea. Yeah,

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And did you say, Mary,
do you know does his wife stay

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with him? I wonder, I
don't know. I'm gonna say no,

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they prob Yeah, it's probably ruined
their lives. But damn, there was

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a fun put up for the children. I mean, if you think about

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it, Tory and Jackson. Yeah, these poor kids, they lost their

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dad and their mom. Yeah,
in a weekend. Yeah. And this

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is a wild story. I mean, so Brooke is John's older daughter,

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and she set up a fund for
them and she's been helping to like well

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now it's nineteen ninety eight, but
she helped to take care of them.

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And that's the story. That's crazy. What mom does that she be in

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love with that? I mean,
come on, I just these stories.

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Just divorce, I know, like, just divorce him and share your kids

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with the man that you had the
kids with. What's the problem. It's

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not like he's like a loser.
You just share your kids. Yeah,

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he's got money. You guys can
sports. And I don't think you're not

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gonna get caught. Go your kids
go to the school. I mean the

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girl daughter went to the school.
See them. I just I don't know.

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And I have a feeling that John, I don't know, John wasn't

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gonna leave his wife. Who knows, right, probably well then kill the

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wife. Yeah, sorry, I
know I didn't kill your husband. Kill

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the other woman, right, Yeah, I don't know. This is crazy.

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This I am always just amazed people
think they're gonna get away with it.

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Like I was telling my husband this
weekend, and I don't remember why

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we got on the subject, but
he said, most people are murdered by

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someone they know. Yes, and
a lot of times spouses are murdered by

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their partner, or people are murdered
by their partner boyfriend, girlfriend, husband,

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wife. So it's like those are
the people that you get looked at

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first. Well, I'm not trying
to be weird, but I would have

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been like, hey, kids,
do you want to stay at your friend's

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house tonight? Yeah? Right,
sleepover at your friend's house, and then

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I'm not going to tie up my
kids and pretend not mom. I think

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they're not going to recognize you because
I have overalls on and a mask,

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because that's what they're We're just going
to be like moms really lost their ship.

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Yeah, Like, I just don't
get it. It's really sad.

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It is very sad. I feel
really bad for those the community and the

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kids. Yeah, the kids especially
and John. Yeah, and John.

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John's just standing as a victim here
and everything I read said that on the

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outside, nobody knew there were any
issues. Yeah. They were actually one

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of the most affectionate couples when there
were events. Yeah, well that's really

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sad. I wonder John knew a
probably not. I don't know. Maybe

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I don't know if you had time. Yeah, he's probably busy and I

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don't know. But yeah, yeah, it's seeming like when you open the

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door in his underwear. Yeah,
they still they start fighting though. First

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he had to her because there's a
struggle, right, he knows what his

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wife looks like. Feels like,
I mean, come on, let's just

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be honest. He knows it's her
anyway, and that is this is crazy.

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I want to see I want to
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The wheels fell off the bus for
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it. We'll need some things were
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I don't think so. I think we're

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