Hey, everybody, Welcome back to the Challenge to podcast. All about the
challenge as always. I'm Brian sitting in his bedroom. Your furn is still
not working, still not working big on the sweet tea. But like four
weeks now, three weeks, I think I think we're going into the third
week. And the guy told me three weeks, so we'll see. Yeah,
sitting over at Minnesota, enjoying a nice cup of tea so she doesn't
mess up her meds. Yeah, Carl in San Diego, and it's out
of a mug that my mom made, a homemade mug. A nice creative
family. And as usual, sitting at work, Jack Banana being the only
one who's actually getting paid to do this show right now, Zach's the smartest
one of all of us. What are we doing this on a free time?
What the hell? I may I got paid to write my notes this
afternoon. Oh there you go, Wow, there you go. Hey,
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a video of her doing the worm from twenty eighteen. She had promised in
the early days of this show Man flashbacks. We're having flashbacks here to early
Challenge days. It is crazy. Heather hasn't been in the chat room in
forever. She went and had two children at the same time. Yeah,
like this, so damn this is awesome. Sorry, I had to go
look it up. Yeah, Scott says a Jay sucks end of podcast.
Yeah, I agree, Scott. I don't know what else there's saying about
this this round. This is maybe the most disappointing episode of the season so
far, and a season full of disappointments. I was actually, I was
actually much happier about this episode than I originally anticipated, being Oh, really,
I've been holding this in up until this episode. I thought that I
was spoiled. Oh spoiled for the winner. You got a fake spoiler?
Yeah, because I was. I can't remember I read it somewhere that Kylon
won the whole thing, Okay, So I have for weeks have thought that
he was going to be the winner. So when we got into this,
uh this episode and he was yet again in the elimination, and was like,
oh, well he's gonna come back. Yep, I was. I've
been fake spoiled. A couple of times. I love it. There's nothing
better than when it's you think you know what's gonna happen, and then something
else happens. You're like, wait what. I was typing notes, and
as I'm typing notes, I'm like, oh, well, he's obviously gonna
pull this out. I don't even have to pay attention to the rest,
and it was a second what. Yeah, crazy, It's always the best.
Has anybody been real real spoiled Zach? You always seem to get real
spoiled, uh not on the season. I have not not this season.
Well, you've avoided him, I've avoided it. But I would say the
way this season is going, if I was fake spoiled that Kylon won,
I think I'd be extremely upset that I was wrong. I want to be
right. Yeah, yeah, this is a season and I mean, we'll
get into it. But this episode I started liking Kylon. Finally. This
episode took me a minute, but I'm I suddenly started liking him. And
then yeah, as he's like, he just keeps getting thrown in. He's
having a really hard season, and I'm like, this is great. I
love it when people have hard seasons and pull it out. But oh yeah,
I was. I was happy that I wasn't actually spoiled, but also
rather upset that I wasn't actually spoiled. Yeah, all right, well we
can. Heather and Maverick both said they've been spoiled purposefully or you were you
guys accidentally spoiled. I was spoiled on an up episode by Challenge Mania when
Klara was coming back. Yeah, oh, both of them are accidentally.
That sucks. Dang, that does suck. Well, let's get into it.
Episode sixteen of season thirty nine, Family Knows Best. I wonder what
that could be alluding to. So we start this episode off with one of
Wolfe's favorite things. Actually, I think it was Wolfe who hated this in
years past, where they played the last like two minutes of the previous episode
as the beginning of this episode. Oh no, that might have been ten.
Yeah. I hate that. I hate that. This is the clear
filler, the obvious filler, like, oh, we don't know what to
do with two Church minu It's just just make them watch the same fucking shit
again. Yes, So we watch Kyland and Horasio beat Zara and then say
goodbye to her, and then finally we watched them get in the van to
head back to the house, and we get a talking head from Kyland saying
that he's going to he's planning on basically pulling a prank and acting like he's
the only one that's that has come back. And then we see that happen.
He walks up into the house that he's the only one. He looks
real damn is moving. Oh stop now, see I can't point it out
because next time I'll try to freeze. I kind of purposely, like on
accident, moved my head. Next time, all just freeze for those listening
to this podcast. In the free show Wolf, he pointed out, but
in Tim's camera it looks like his forehead is moving when it's not. And
yeah, I think it's just a weird like his forehead is doing the worm
weird do it again? Oh oh, it moved again. I think it
might just be the shadows on his face and the way that the shadow is
who knows, hmm, it's a weird illusion. Chris. Yes, I'm
not the only one. All right, Well, we get we get Kylon
walking back into the house and everybody she's kind of like, oh my god,
no way, You're the only one. Is anybody else coming back?
I feel like Kylon played this off perfectly. He played this so well.
I did not know he is gonna be a good actor. He was pretty
good. Yeah, he did a good job of this. Yeah he did.
Yeah. He comes back and says, yeah, they we got there
and we all completed separately. So I mean, is anybody else back and
kind of poses it like, oh, well, maybe there are other people
coming back. I don't know, but I don't think so. The Big
Alliance seems very very happy that they at least got rid of Karroo. Nope,
that was not supposed to happen. We're not there yet, yeah,
Jamie. Jamie asks what I was going to ask, which is why do
this? What was there a strategy here? Was this just a joke?
Like, what's going on here? I think this was more of a just
a prank because he said down a little bit like he didn't mean for it
to go as far as it did, right, because everybody's bawling and something.
Yeah, because Olivia takes this really hard. She s also's forehead movie,
so it's like his face is doing the wave. I don't tell you,
man, I don't think it's actually moving well, We're all just gonna
sit here in silence and stare at his jeez. Oh yeah, okay,
I do you know what you mean? It is? It's like a weird
distortion on the camp. Is that plating? Is it doing it now?
No, I'm not gonna move. I'm just gonna stay frozen. Sure this
is great for all the listeners. But yeah, so Olivia is really upset.
She's feeling bad because she said that Hirasio sacrificed his game for her.
He's in the previous episode we saw him pick him. Yeah, this seems
to later on in this episode. Really, it's sad about it, Olivia.
Yeah, I'm I'm falling out of love with Olivia too, Mack.
How are you feeling disappointed? You know, like I I love Olivia.
I want to love her. She's like my fellow Alaska. But she's making
it really hard. Yeah, she's She's screwed up this episode in a major
way. Yes, she sh did. We'll get there. And then Harassio
comes walk around the corner, walks up the stairs, and everybody's super well
not everybody. Olivia is super excited, Nurie is super excited. But this
is when Kylon's like oscar Worthy like acting. Yeah, even he goes running
up running over it gives them like a hug and stuff like those very enthusiastic
bro high fives that they do. I've never been cool enough to be able
to pull that off, but respect, he did a really good job on
playing this off. Yeah, yeah, I do. I'm I'm with Jamie
though, like why like why was this so convincing that at this point they
can't they just say like, haha, gotcha, Like, I don't know,
I just don't understand what the point of this was. Who knows who
was it? Chris pointed out, Yeah, it was a prank, but
seeing who got upset and who celebrated was kind of telling. I mean,
but was it really though, Like it's kind of all the people that you
expected to be celebrating. Yeah. Later Kylon says something like, oh,
Harassio and I are the only ones that know what happens there, and we're
not going to tell anybody or something like that. I mean, like we've
seen this before where they've done the private eliminations and whoever's coming back, they
you know, keep it real tight amongst themselves, right, which I don't
mind. I kind of like the private eliminations, you know, keep everybody
in the dark. Yeah, I don't mind that at all. We get
an exchange between Kylind and Berna. She pops back up in this episode in
a relatively negative boy quite a few times. Yeah, this is this is
where I started liking Kyland during the Kland and Berna. Yeah, because she
she says something along the lines to Kyland of like, oh, you know,
I was I was feeling so bad for these two because talking about Nourice
and Olivia, because they were so sad that you guys were in and now
that Horacio wasn't was potentially not coming back, and Kylon goes, but were
you really, like, were you actually sad for that, because you're part
of the reason why we went in, and she just fucking loses it on
him. Yeah. It was ridiculous. And then I don't even remember what
she said, but he at some point says like, Berna, I can
talk about whatever I want. It's just like, yeah you can, Kylin,
good for you. Berna is insane. She's a total lunatic, that
woman. Yeah. Well, and then the very next scene is her and
I'm gonna pull a tim on this one and say, I don't care about
any of the next like five minutes, Berna is sitting there talking to Emmanuel.
Oh yeah about how heard. She gives the sob story about how her
her life back home isn't is hard because her mom doesn't talk to her,
And this is like everyone that's on this show has their own sob story.
Everybody does. Everybody on this show is a little fucked up. It's just
the way it is. And yeah, I mean it just it felt like
she was just trying to gain sympathy for that and blame the reason why she's
just why she lets loose on everybody on this That's that's not a valid reason.
Your trauma is not a reason to take it out on somebody else,
right, Yeah, this conversation especially was super weird to have them just talk
about how much they love their moms. Like, is this what we're doing
now in the challenge? We're watching people cry about their moms. Fast forward,
let's move on an Emmanuel talks to like, actually talks to his mom,
calls her up, which I mean, lovely, great. I'm glad
you guys have a good relationship. But I don't care. I don't care
there, I'm not here. Good, my apathy is spreading to the rest
of the podcast. All Right, it's only matter of time, Z act
before you don't give a shit about any these people there. I've always tried.
Almost every time that you have said I don't care about these kinds of
things, I have agreed with you. Oh good. I always felt that
way because all right, I don't watch the show to get the backstory.
If I wanted the backstory and these people, I would watch shows on TLC,
right, yeah, yeah, but those are full of people with multiple
children and little people. Yeah, yeah, I don't care. This is
why I don't watch shows like that, because I just don't care. And
then we are off to the challenge. It's a real abrupt cut, real
abrupt on the show here too, because Wolfie doesn't know what to do.
I was sma, I need it. Indistinguishable by the way I sounded exactly
like, yes, exactly the same. Couldn't tell the difference. All right.
The challenges Heights above Water and the name is end of the line.
This very reminiscent of Battle of the Sexes, which we covered here on this
podcast. I don't remember if they called it the same challenge, but this
is the one. Ruthie just fucking dominated it. Oh, first Battle of
the Sexes Okay, yeah, million years ago, I don't remember that.
Yeah, it was off a crane, and yeah, Ruthie was the one.
Ruthie just shot down so fast, caught it with like an inch to
go in, like I could see her two seconds or something. Crazy.
Yeah, she won this one. Car I think basically this is they're all
up on a on these platforms above the water, and they are attached to
a rope, so they have to repel down this rope as fast as they
can and get as close to the very end of this rope as they possibly
can. They have a mechanism on their carabineer that they can squeeze to slow
themselves down or stop themselves completely. And it's the fastest person to the bottom
of the rope, fastest person to go the farthest distance without falling off the
rope wins, and the slowest person if everybody stays on the rope, slowest
person to go the distance and not far very far is the loser. But
if anyone falls off, it's the slowest person to fall off. Yeah,
do we think this is fair? Is that the right way to do this.
Slowest person to fall off, yeah, because I mean that would mean
that they were they If they were slow getting off of it, then it
meant that they were slow coming down it, so they wouldn't have gotten very
like as far down as quickly as anybody else anyway. Yeah, but yeah,
but still, I mean, I understand because there's very in the very
first heat, James falls off almost immediately. Yeah. Well, and it
seems like that that is a worse performance to me. It seems like falling
off right away you did worse than the guy that sort of inched down and
fell off. But I mean, I guess I can see both ways.
I don't know the best way to do this. Yeah, so I don't
have it, But I don't know that they'd be able to really like,
I don't know how well they'd be able to prove that that was fair,
too. I don't know if it's fair either way. That's the thing.
It's it's very subjective. I think James should have gone home. I think
he did the worst, you know, frankly, But I understand, and
the rules were what they were, and d knew the rules, so you
know, it is what it is. But it sucks. I think it's
good rules because the challenges basically get as far down as fast as you can,
so you're being timed on speed. You should be punished when you don't
have speed. I see that too, Yeah, that's the I can see
it both ways. It's hard to decide who to go home, and I
guess as long as they know it up front, I guess it doesn't matter.
But I don't know it just it feels a little weird to me as
all. Yep. I almost forgot to mention this was a sponsored challenge.
Sponsored it. You got to see the shoes and then the winner would won
fifteen thousand dollars to basically go on an under arm or shopping spree. It's
not BK, but you know it's nice. It's not a T mobile sidekick,
it's not a Razor scooter. Yeah, for sure, So he won.
You have James, who, like we said, falls off almost immediately
because he cannot figure out how to use the stopping device. And it looks
like he wrote burns the shit out of his hand and his device looked fucked
up too, by the way, because everybody else's handles were up. And
he even said, like my handle's not up. I do think there's something
wrong with his thing. I yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there was,
like if they just didn't connect it right or I don't know, but
it was still like, if it was really that wrong, then maybe they
should have let him go again. Who knows, Yeah, not that they
would. I was wondering though, because he was asking Horasio if, like
if his was in the same way, and like how to work this,
and Horassio was laughing the whole time. Do you think Horassio purposely gave him
bad directions to screw him over. No, because they they were all saying
the same thing. They were all saying that it was on the top and
that you just need to squeeze it, and yeah, it looks just laughing
about the fact that James couldn't get it figured out. Yeah, it looked
like when it showed the devices, it looked like Rassio's little red lever could
move up and down, and it looked like James's was stuck down. But
it was. It was a quick little shot and I don't know if James
then fixed it, like who knows what happens after that, but it certainly
didn't look right when it showed it. Yeah, it made me wonder whether
they actually gave them like full instructions on how to use these things or if
it was just like here, go up there and figure it out right.
Hm. But James loses that round because he decus uh. Horasio wins that
he relatively quickly. But he also wrote burns the shit out of his hand.
Yeah, they show they show them going to the medic and oh my
god, I was like, oh yeah, full body crunch. Yeah,
that was that was tough to look at. Still full body cringe ough gives
me the heb gbs. Yeah. Right before we get heat too, we
get a cutaway to Jay talking about how his first time repelling was in the
middle of the night, down one thousand feet outside of Las Vegas, with
only with his headlamp in his teeth, And I call bullshit. I can't
fucking stand anything this guy says or does this season. Every time he opens
his mouth, I want him to shut up. This drove me nuts for
reasons I can't quite explain, but it's I don't know. I didn't like
this. Yeah, it drove me. And like the first time you repel,
that's not the first time you were repelling. Your first time repelling is
not going to be down a thousand feet that's on a mountain outside of Las
Vegas. So that's that's not what happened this episode. Does Jay no favors?
Scott says he was coming down from Mount douchebag. He's the worst this
season, just the worst, this entire episode. Yeah, I agree with
you. How horrible j is just awful? Kylind wins Heat two, Heat
three, j wins and Ed d q's Heat four, Colleen wins and Heat
five, Corey dqs and Berna wins. Can we can we revisit a topic
from last week? Are carlyon you agreed with me? James hair up or
hair down? Better than hair up? Yes? Ed is the reverse?
Right? Yes? Ed better up? Trash down looks horrible down. I
think it's the way that he does it when it's down, like he just
lets it kind of be this mass of hair and there's no real I don't
know, it's just a big triangle on the top of his head and it
looks odd. Yeah, if you had the flowing locks like James, that'd
be all right. So now so now I need to know Tim when I
have long hair hair up, her hair down, I think at all.
No, Zack's not a long hair guy. I like the long hair zact
and I liked it down. Yeah, yeah, Zach, you look much
better with the short hair. I had no opinion. I'm still pissed that
you had all that hair and didn't appreciate it. I think that's why what
Tim likes it to. You know, I think you appreciate it. Those
ac did you appreciate that? Do you appreciate that head of hair you got?
I do? And you know a lot of people are on Team Carlin.
They think I look better short hair. Allison has seen photos of the
long hair. She doesn't hate it, so maybe I will make it comeback
in some way. Joker says t needs to get laid as a p all
he's talking about is how hot dudes are every week. Joker, don't even
worry about my my penis. Man, he's getting laid like every other day,
Joker, don't even worry about a Joker. And then when he gets
done Joke, he done some home. It's right, it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool. Tim's gotten laid more than the rest of us on the
show. Recently. That's right, that's right, It's definitely true. All
right. So ultimately we have the three DQ's, which to Corey, Ed
and James. James is super excited that there are two other people who dqued
because he thought he was going home for sure, and Ed ends up being
the slowest, which is a really shitty way to lose him. What was
Ed thinking? Ed is too smart to fuck up this royally? Right?
What was he doing? I think he I think he was just thinking like,
oh, I can get another few inches out of this and just didn't
That's what she said. Yeah, and just didn't squeeze it tight enough for
something. Hadn't he already lost by the time he fell off the thing too,
So after you lose, especially, just be like, well, I'm
I'm just gonna be here. I don't know, I don't know what he
was to approve. He even said that all I had to do was was
go out onto the rope and be like check and then just be done.
Yeah, would be fine. Yeah. I can see him wanting to win.
I can see him trying to win, but once somebody else in his
heat wins, just just be done then, you know, I just I
don't know. I don't get it. Yeah, who knows? And Joker
wants to know if you think about us off when you're Yeah, I did,
of course, Well I get it's time. I guess the way you
win is you get down as low as you can, as fast as you
can. So even though someone got down like faster than him, maybe he
was thinking, well, it might take me longer if I get lower than
them, I beat them. Yeah, I guess, Yeah, maybe I
don't know. I'm just I guess I'm just more cautious and not so competitive.
I would have taken the easy like stay in the game, you know,
especially because the heat that he was in had Jay in it. And
I mean, I will give Jay this. He is a rock claimer like
we we've heard this in previous seasons. He did that. He did a
an elimination against Awesome in one in his first season where they were hanging from
a bar. Was it awesive? I think it was awesome. Yeah,
it was hanging from a bar up above above the ground. And like his
climbing skills really benefited him there. So I don't know why Ed thought that,
like, oh this is a good idea. Yeah, he's he's kicking
himself. He uh, you know, he al's chin up and whatever.
But I bet you on the flight home he was just like, what the
fuck was I thinking? Probably, and of course fucking Jay ends up winning
it thinks this was real. I do the second the second I saw Jack,
who thinks this this is real outside of Zagie Pane the j one,
Yeah, I think it's real. Yeah, I think he won. I
think the second I saw him, like, do the the challenge, I
was like, oh, he just want it, Like he looked life speeds
faster than anyone else. Yeah. See, I thought Horasio looked faster.
I think if production was going to put their finger on a scale, they
would want Harassio to stay an extra some extra time. Yeah, I just
I think Chris points out, if they were going to rig it, it
would have been better TV to have Horassio with. Is that what Chris said
or is that what I said? Chris all the above? Did you literally
just say that? Yeah, I was not listening. I was looking at
the chat room clearly. I forgive you. I forgive you. So we
go back home and they're all sitting around because now it's Jay has to make
the decision of who he's going to pick in their nominations. It'll be that
trickle down effect if he picked someone and they pick someone and so on and
so forth. The only thing worse than Jay power tripping is this whatever this
shitty passive aggressive thing was to power trip while pretending like he wasn't power trip.
Yeah. Well, and it all starts out because literally, the very
first thing that he says when we get back to the house is that his
his pick is going to either be Michelle or Emmanuel. And he looks at
Michelle and he goes, I think I'm going to pick a manual. And
it's like you what, Yeah? Does he have a strategy on her face?
Like excuse me, Yeah, what is the strategy? What is Jay
doing? Why would Jay think that? And why would he tell that to
Michelle because he's a fucking jackass. I do not understand what's going on with
that guy. Yeah, well, this also we the next little bit of
this is we get Maurice talking to I think Olivia and Michelle or something like
that, and she is basically talking about how she's now quite like truly questioning
whether Jay actually has any loyalty to her. And I thought yesterday last week's
episode proved that he doesn't. I'm confused as to why she still thinks that
he would, and I personally think he does. I think it's a messive
way of doing it. But I think he like he wants to remove her
and Olivia's like extra people to force them to be loyal to him. But
I believe once their like extended people are gone, he's going to be truly
loyal to those two girls. I mean, I don't believe that. I
think that he talks a big game, and I think he's full of shit.
Yeah, and I think he's also sort of like rudderless sometimes. And
I don't know if this is the conversation, but at some point he says,
like, I'm done with h Kylin Tarassio. We don't need to worry
about them. It's like what you've been picking on them the whole season?
What what stopped it? Now? Like what now changed it? But I
don't know, I just don't get what he's thinking or what he's doing.
Yeah, because Nourisa has doing this whole thing. She has a conversation with
him saying, like, you know, please say Farasi, please don't put
him down there, and Jay agrees with that. So I think it was
kind of during that whole exchange that he said that, you know, we
don't have to worry about them anymore. But then we got to the club
night, uh, and Mariah sits down with Nourice and tells her like,
oh, I've heard some things about who we want in the bottom and this,
that and the other. Uh. And Jay said that he's going to
he wants to put down Colleen with Hirasio and Kyland, and Maurice is like,
wait a second, what Harasio he said Hirasio, Yeah, yeah,
to Nourice, he says this to Yeah. I don't think he was ever
saving Kyland or Rosa. I think he just didn't want to deal with Nourse
in the moment. But yeah, but that's still we're seeing like that sort
of gameplay. We're seeing why that doesn't work because Michelle and Jay have made
too many promises to too many people. They have too many number ones in
fighting them. Yeah, this episode was the epitome of if you were going
to have a hierarchy in your alliance, you need to actually stick to said
hierarchy and have one number one yes and one number two and like go down
like that because you cannot be friends with everybody in this house. It does
not work because you get to a point in the game like this where everybody
is up for grabs and you're going to have to start voting in your people.
Yeah, it happens every season, and I don't understand why. Like
Michelle, especially in this episode, freaked out about having to vote someone that
she wanted in. Yep, weird. I don't get any there. Yeah,
yeah, this is we at the club, Michelle's going through this massive
list of people that she has to save. I just I don't understand it.
Yeah, it's a purely semantic thing. I know. I'm stuck on
the semantics of it. But yes, people say like, oh, that's
my number one, and that's my other number one. I'm just like,
fuck you, you're so stupid, Like, yeah, it draws me nuts,
and I feel like we saw we heard a lot of people say that
this episode. Yes, there were a lot of number ones this episode,
a lot of like, oh that's my other number one. Yep, we're
getting to the point it's getting messy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and
while we're at the club, we get a talking head from Jay where he
kind of outs Olivia, where apparently the earlier in the day or within the
last few days, Olivia told him that she doesn't want to run the final
against Horasio, basically giving him like free reign to vote Hirasio in, which
is, Yeah, I think we saw this last episode. Yeah, I
feel like that. I feel like that's actually a throwback clip. I feel
like that was like early on when she's doing the whole thing of like,
I don't even know if he's chilling my friend or I may have missed it
earlier on, but it came back and full force this episode. Jacqueline wants
to know, do you think they're just holding on to James to beat him
in the final or is it just for Mariah. I think it's just for
Mariah. I do too. He's a dumb number, so they'll just keep
him around. And I think I think they're not scared of him too.
Yeah, they know if they take him out, Mariah jumps ship. So
they got to like play along until they have a big enough numbers advantage to
take him out and still outnumber the other side. Yep, which I mean
very well could be next episode, because yeah, we got rid of two
of them, two of the numbers against them. So we're back in the
house. Uh, and Jay is freaking out on Michelle because she wants She's
trying to figure out what the order needs to be, and he keeps doing
the This is when he's power tripping about like, I can only pick one
person, yeah, and so this is up to you to figure out the
rest of my choice. Yeah, I get to pick one person. It's
up to you, guys. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like this
is like a power aggressive or a passive aggressive power play. I think that's
like a guilt trip power play something or other. Either way, Shit,
it was a super shitty move. He's just yeah, he's frustrating to watch.
Yep. Yeah, Oh I just lost my place. Oh uh.
Olivia and Nourice and Michelle are all sitting in the room talking now, and
you know, Nourice is telling them like, I would rather go in than
have Kylin and Horassio go in again, And of course Michelle and Olivia like,
oh, you shouldn't sacrifice your game. You should still want to be
here. And then Olivia turns to Michelle and says like, I don't know
if I can trust you, Like I feel like you're gonna vote me in
and Michelle's response to her was, I would literally never literally did it last
week, like you put her in the bottom to bottom four last week.
Last week it was Noursa's decision of who to save. See this is why
I hate the way this voting thing works now. With smaller alliances, this
would have been a really fun way to do it. But yes, I
agree with with a huge alliance and the predictable winner, It's like, it's
just it's not very interesting. I'm so bored with like how this plays out.
Yeah, and I'm going to be so bored with the rest of the
season. Yeah. Yeah. Nourice does call out Michelle for putting Mariah and
James above her and Olivia, though, and Michelle's kind of like, uh,
doesn't know what to say. Uh, we are onto nominations. Don't
say my name, bitch, see master of impressions right over here. Sounded
just like her indistinguishable. Yep, it's gonna be your new job is to
bus the music with your mouth. Oh acapella, Yes, all right,
I can do that. We start off the nomination. Jay sits down and
he says Michelle, and then t J kind of turns to him and it
is like, you look real upset right now. What's going on? And
he and Michelle both kind of lay out that there's been a bunch of chaos
in the house recently and today was a day and I don't it's just frustrating
to see all of us, and yeah, this is the petulant child Jay
grumpy face on the couch. Yeah, all I can do is save her
because she's been my ride or die. Yeah, you can tell it.
It was sort of like, I don't really want to do this, I
just have to do this. Michelle fuck off. Well, and then TJ
turns to Michelle because Michelle is very obviously upset, and she's up there and
she looks like she's about to start bawling, and she gives her bullshits bullshit
speech about how hard it is to choose the next person, because you know,
she loves everybody, and she starts in her talking head, starts going
down the line like, you know, my number one, my sanity,
my best friend, my you know, my heart. This is just a
bunch of ways of saying you're number one, so you have at least four
of them? What, Yeah, And then she kind of pulls it a
wild card and she saves Olivia like, okay, cool, we're freaking all
of us freaking out at this point. No, not not quite. I
was. I was kind of like, okay, this, this is kind
of neat. I'm okay with this. I don't know how this happened,
but I'm okay with this. Like I was so excited. I was like,
oh my gosh, the Minority Alliance did it. Like they infiltrated somehow.
They're all going to be safe. M M. I was not because
something we didn't talk about in the pre show. We have a ship new
people in the Facebook group and people I don't think we're aware of the twenty
four hour Yeah, I had to. I had a rule kill a few
comments today and just put a hey, heads up spoilers. Yeah, And
I wasn't completely spoiled, but I'd be scrolling through my phone and i'd see
a post from our group and I saw something like I'm so mad at Olivia,
and I was like, oh fuck, So when you called Olivia,
I'm like, oh, well, she's obviously not going to choose the people
we want her to choose. And you know, I saw a lot of
those posts and I that did not even cross my mind. I don't know
why. I've made a new post telling everybody welcome new people, and you
know, everybody seems cool about it. Yeah, so we get a flashback
of why Olivia came to this decision. But what do you guys, we
haven't said. I haven't said Olivia's decision yet. Oh sorry. Yeah.
We get Michelle picking Olivia, and then Olivia sits up there and she goes,
I'm gonna pick Mariah and that's what floored me. Yeah, and that's
when we get the flashback. Well for you love these flashbacks, fucking hate
it. Just give us all the information up front. Yeah, so,
Zach, my question for you, I understand why Olivia had that conversation at
the pool and why she got her name called. Why didn't she uh go
against one? Why didn't she? I don't know, that's what she should
have done. I was thinking of it. They just lost Ed, so
they're down in number. Now she can cripple that lines even more. It
would have gotten so easy. Yeah. Yes, Kyland and her Assio and
even her and Nuris are strong competitors. Like if you could get like Ed
and Jay or a manual this episode, you can run the competitions. Possibly.
I think Olivia thought that she was going to be in a better position,
but she's not. Now she's at the bottom of a big alliance,
which she's no better off. You're better off in the middle of the of
a smaller alliance, you know, I don't know. This seemed like a
very bad move for a lot of reasons. Yeah, Like I mean,
it's one of those things where if she had been if she had said Nuris
or Hiracio or Kyland, whatever, if she'd picked the small alliance, they'd
gotten all of their people. They sent three people from the big alliance out
and we didn't know that there were going to be two people not coming home
this time. I think it very easily they could have gotten Colleen to flip
to their alliance. I mean, potentially, maybe not Berna kind of a
package deal. Corey seems to be up Michelle's ass. I think Corey is
the type of player that if the numbers slept, he would run to whoever
has the power. I do too. I don't think he's loyal because he
likes her or anything. I think he just feels safe over there. Yeah,
that's probably true, but I definitely think they could get Colleen, So
like Olivia is the big one and we're still going through a list, but
there are a couple other people that I'm like, oh, you have a
chance, and they completely just online with everybody else. Yeah, they're still
playing a very weak, scared game. It's weird. That being said,
I don't know if I agree with you, Tim that she's at the bottom
of the alliance now, because I think, you know, as long as
michean d'affa power, I think they will now put her above you know,
Colleen. I think they'll put her above Berna possibly Corey, so I think
she could get but I don't think Emmanuel will put her above Berna. And
I think Emmanuel has more sway with Jay and Michelle. I agree with that
is true. I mean I think she's in the bottom half of that alliance
for sure. If they end up in a pinch, she will be one
of the three people going down. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. It
just does not seem like an advanced her position much or even kept her safe.
Like I just don't know what well. I don't say that she did
this for self preservation, and I don't understand how she thinks that this is
self preservation, that you you're not doing this for self preservation, you are
doing this for Jay and Michelle's game. I think she was scared and saw
a way to be safe and she took it. And it's not in deeper
than that. But that's also why I didn't like this move. Yeah,
I think the self preservations. They just went to her and said it's gonna
be the two guys in you unless you join us, and I mean,
yeah, yeah, it's just goose Force brings up, how the fuck is
Corey still safe? Right? Yeah, he seems to be like just forgotten
somewhere. I don't know how they I don't have the rest of the pick
list down, but it basically ended up like Berna, Colleen and then Corey.
And that's when Jay gets really pissed because Corey is the last one to
get picked and Jason Nourice is left in the bottom three with Haracio and Kyland,
and Jay's just flipping out because he's like, well, Nourice wasn't supposed
to be there. She was supposed to be picked by Corey, and everybody's
looking at him like okay, but Corey was the last one to be picked,
so who was supposed to pick Corey and he just kind of pulls the
well, I don't know. I mean that was for you guys to figure
out, But this wasn't it supposed to be? How how it win?
Like, she's not supposed to be in the bottom. I just don't understand
how Colleen is falling in line right. All these like six or seven weeks
saved Nurie or Harashio or Kylin. She could have picked one of them.
Yeah, And there have been multiple weeks where she pulls out the like I'm
the Mole type of ship from her old show, and none of it has
come to any fruition. She's done nothing, nothing. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I know, Corey. Corey did post on social media. And
as soon as they got to this stage of the game where they were doing
the picks, him, Colleen and Berna like that first day got together made
like a Final three alliance to always pick each other. I mean, I'm
not surprised by that because they're they're all shitty at this game. Yeah,
and they realized, you know, he said, we realized that we were
at the bottom of Jane Michelle's alliance, So like we're gonna stick together and
when push comes to shave, will be the three of us against them.
Yeah. I wonder how well that that alliance would stay together, though,
because Emmanuel is with Jay and Michelle, and I think Berna is more with
a Manuel than she would be with Corey and Colleen. True, I think
if she's in a position where she had to like be the final pick,
I think should pick a Manuel over those guys. Yeah, Joker says,
I don't get how I'm the only one that saw how shady this chick is
last season and people are still shocked she's this shady Olivia. I think you're
talking about Colleen. Maybe what are you talking about? Olivia? But what
did you see last season? And joke and they made you think she's shady?
That's not oh Olivia. Yeah, Yeah, I'm not sure she's shady.
I think she's stupid. I think she's not playing the smart She's not
playing a smart game at all. But this is just this was so bizarre.
It would have been so easy to flip that house upside down. Yeah
and so, and she would have. And if she had done that,
if she had taken third Lee, she obviously had at least a half an
hour between the conversation that she had with Jay and Michelle to when she had
to pick a name, if she had thought about it in that half an
hour's time, Like if I if I go against them, Yeah, it'll
be pain in the moment, But if I go against them, then I
could keep myself and my three people safe, and then we could potentially get
another person and then three people get Like you could play through the scenario in
your head and know that at least one other person is going home. Just
battles me. Yeah, at minimum, at minimum you do you just do
the thing for the game that's going to make the game interesting and the fans
excited, you know what I mean? Like even you've even missed that Olivia,
Like, I don't know, I don't get it. I think the
only only way I would defend this with Olivia if she feels like she's high
enough on the pecking or that she can like just coast her way down to
the final. I do think this is an easier final road than going against
Kylon and Herrassio in the final. I mean, agreed, but she has
Michelle, j Emmanuel, Mariah are all above her, and usually the like
the finals are you know, four people. Yeah. So, and I
think, no offense to Olivia. There's no chance she's going to be the
sole winner no matter what. Right, I mean, she's got to be
one of the at least performing people in the house right now. Yeah,
I do that with I think Jay would have a manual love her. I
think if like Michelle won a daily challenge and had the power, I think
Michelle would prioritize her over Emmanuel. Yeah. I think my larger point is
that if if I'm Olivia, I'm thinking I'm not winning this final, so
I might as well just have fun and make good TV and get a callback,
you know what I mean, and just be chaotic and random and just
do whatever. But we we are also watchers of this show and have seen
it for many years and could approach it that way knowing that none of us
are going to win. Yeah, and I don't feel like any of these
challengers approach it that way. Olivia. Olivia thinks she's gonna win here chance.
Maybe I have i'd all these fuckers. I'm sorry, You're right,
We'll for you would totally win totally. Maybe maybe I feel like I have
too much faith in Olivia. Emmanuel scares me. I feel like if you
could get Emmanuel out, I think she has an equal shot to win against
Michelle or Ja or any of them. Really Like, I, yeah,
they don't scare me in a final like, I don't think they'll be horrible,
but think they're going to be like light years above her. I don't
think she has a chance against the two of them. I don't know.
I think Emmanuel is one of the stronger people, if not the strongest person
in this house right now. I agree, But he's playing a real quiet
game, Like I said last week the week before, he's playing a CT
style game, sitting in the back, being real quiet and just kind of
letting things happen. I think with the three guys we lost this episode,
I think Emmanuel might be the best you know and biggest threat left. Yeah.
True, So Joker says during the reunion, the way she just flipped
on Nelson and disregarded him with no remorse showed she put herself first and fuck
everyone else. And watch the reunion this season, she will start by trying
to sound contrite and apologetic, but I'll fall on deaf ears. After that,
she will double down on what she did, and even more people are
going. All right, somebody saved that comment. Will have to rehash that
one after the reunions. See how accurate joker? Yeah, hey, joker,
and this is sidebar real quick, Joker. I want you to take
that second comment that you made, the that starts with the and watch and
apply that to Tom Sandival because that's exactly what he did anyway. Sorry,
h vander Pump. So ultimately, the bottom three that are going in are
Horasio, Kyland, and Maurice, and Maurice is real pissed, so she
lets loose on Olivia and TJ's up. They kind of like, okay,
well you guys go back to the house and go get ready, and Kylon
goes, well, you don't have to get ready, stay ready and pulls
off his shirt and he's got his challenge shirt underneath. I like, I
like Kylin now, but that was well, I mean, that's a that's
an old school challenge move. That was what's her face from many many many
years ago? She did that. She was on one of the All Stars.
I can't remember her name, Ianna. I slept in my uniform last
night, Yes, I slept in my uniform last night. She did the
same ship and that's a Durell phrase that Kylon used. I don't get ready,
I don't get ready, I stay ready. Oh I don't know.
I think that whos Salad did I because she wanted to feel rich? Whose
was was it? Jody's? Isn't it Jody's? Oh man, you won't
feel will get to get this one. But yeah, it just made me
think of Mojo Rawley when he said that Joe don't bring up Mojo Raleigh in
this Carlin. Who's Who's Mojo Raleigh? No idea, he's Rob gron friend.
He was. He was a former football and his catchphrase was I don't
get hyped, I stay hyped. M gotcha. I know Mojo Jojo anybody
Mojo Jojo? I did know Mojo jo Jo jojo Jo. It's a different
Judjo Jojo power. Yes, all right, So we go back to the
house. Rossio is breaking up. We finally see some emotion from Rassio.
He is breaking down to Maurice, which I honestly don't really care. I
thought it was funny. Yeah I did too. And then so so I
just got a message from Joker my private private Facebook. Oh mind, and
he said, he said, uh, check the date on this wolf Man
and then posted a screenshot of a comment that he made of March of last
year. So I assume when her last season was on, and he says,
calling my shot with Olivia, I think she's the next toy. After
an excellent rookie campaign, she will underperform for the next several seasons and be
known more for drama than her actual performance. I also predict it by her
second third season, she will have lost near fifty percent of the fans that
are currently supporting her. I believe she could win a season way down the
road, but she will need a lot out. Wow, Joker, right,
I'm impressed, Joker, well done. You can read people. Okay,
he's got a gift. Umm, Joker used that skill for good,
not evil, that's all. So, as Horassio is breaking down Tonarise,
Jay knocks on the door and pops his head in, says, can I
talk to you for a minute. I'm not talking to anybody. Yeah,
And he comes in with his notebook and is like, look, and he's
pulling out all these lists of people. See every list that I you were
always supposed to be higher up. You're never supposed to be in this position,
and She's like, I like, dude, I don't fucking care.
I'm in this position now. Obviously didn't help. Yeah, and I do
think that that might be the saving grace for you know, Anaris or even
in an Olivia at this point is we're talking about how, you know,
those three h Berna, Cory, and Colleen have an alliance as I could
see this kind of being that tipping point where now Jay and Michelle realized,
like our own soldiers are not following orders anymore, and it becomes a warmed
between the two members or the two sides of that group, Lene, Olivia
and Reice just slide by to the final. Yeah, it does seem in
more like in more traditional seasons when we have vets on the cast. By
this point in the game, we've dropped the alliances, like they kind of
realize we've got three challenges left to the final. It's just sort of every
man for himself, it is it just because everybody's such a fucking amateur that
we're still sticking to these sides and teams and alliances. I think so I
think Jay is holding on because he's scared because without his alliance, he Yeah,
people aren't really scared of him personally. I don't think the other men
like Corey and who are some of the other men against Jay? Jay's not
looking all that impressive, you know. Yeah, h yeah. We get
a quick shot of him back in his room just bawling his eyes out,
which I'm confused by it because he's part of the reason why Narice is in
this position. So yeah, I think he just knows his like it's coming
for him now, like all this stuff that he's you know, he can't
hold it together. He can't. Yeah, he can't keep all the mad.
Then don't we get our battle royale between Olivia and Nourice. I guess
it wasn't really the baddle. It was kind of a precursor. I think
we're gonna get it next next episode. But Olivia sits down to talk with
Nourice, and Nourice drops the bomb that her brother told her a few weeks
ago when she talked to him that she shouldn't trust her trust Olivia because Olivia
was talking shit and I was gonna backstab her. And Olivia just kind of
has this like epiphany of weight, You've just been waiting for me to do
this to you. Yeah. Yeah, she has been professional. You're confessional
that she's just been waiting for me to fail her. Yeah. I understand
those feelings. Whether I believe Olivia is actually upset about it or not the
story, but I've talked with my therapist multiple times about that. I just
don't like disappointing people or letting people down, and just that actual feeling that
she brought up. I was like, yeah, it's not good. I
don't know if you're feeling that, but it's one of those things that I
don't know that she was. I don't know that it's necessarily a disappointment.
It's more of a you have backstabbed me hard four ye so yeah, which,
oh well, us we're on to elimination. It looks like the same
setup as last week, but TJ drops the bomb of this week, two
players are going home rather than coming back to the house. I like that.
I did too. Yeah, but the players are not happy. No.
Well, and it also takes away that the shenanigans that Harassio and Kyla
did last time, where they were working together to gang up. This is
purely like best I was gonna say best man wins, best person wins,
yeah, which I like. Yep, So again. This elimination is kind
of set up like last week. They have three obstacle course paths with puzzles
at the end, slightly different obstacles, slightly different puzzles, and the first
one to finish all three puzzles is the winner. The first one is a
tanagram. First tanagram we've seen no while. But before that, they have
to do those like hoppy jumpy things over those big block things that are like
five feet tall, and Kylon and Harassio just jumped on them, like from
the ground up. Like that's fucking unreal to me that they could both do
that, That's incredible. And then like twelve times in a row they did
this shit. Yeah, and not only that, you've seen nuricese come out.
Maurice was like crawling on top of them and the guys are like leap
froggering over them. It was unbelievable. By the time they get to the
first station, Maurice's minutes behind. Yeah, I mean it's it's not close.
And I just thought, well, buy Maurice, like, oh so
did I I thought that was an immediate like she's done. Yeah, it
didn't happen. Yeah, So the first puzzle is a tanagram. Both of
the guys go to the tanagram first and they get stuck. Yeah, so
embarrassingly long amount it time. While they're stuck on the tanagram, uh Nouris
goes to the second puzzle, which is she has to put you to put
together a bunch of chains in pairs so that every single chain ends up at
thirty nine links. I think they're like ten or eleven different sets of chains
she has to put together. She runs through that relatively quickly, calls check,
sends her on. She then runs and she does the tanagram, and
as she's going to the tanagram, Haracio goes, I can't figure this out.
I'm gonna call it, and I'm gonna take a chance and go get
the other two done first and come back to this. Smart, right,
I mean, what else are you supposed to do if you'r Horassio? Yeah?
I mean, ultimately it was a smart choice for him because he did
finish the other two and still have time theoretically to do that one. Yeah.
I think for him it doesn't it didn't feel like that big of a
risk. He's being beaten, like he's got and he's gonna go home.
He's got to do something different. I think think Kylon should have left too.
Frankly, Yeah, so Kylon stays there and he's struggle in. Maurice
gets to the tannagram and just kind of looks at it, and it's like
within seconds she pulls in a nissa and just puts it all together and say
okay, check and runs off. Yeah that was pretty cool. Yeah,
I was happy to see that. She she's just straight up smoked these.
Yeah, it was impressed. Ye, yes, it was. Even TJ
thought so TJ was into this. Yeah. Well and maybe they just didn't
show it. But to me, it looked like she finished her puzzle and
this ran away immediately, which made me go, why didn't Kyland run over
and look at her answer? I think she didn't, did she? Okay,
I didn't hear her do that. Like we definitely see like when Horatio
gets it later, he like wipes it clean afterwards. That looked like she
just left it. But maybe I'm wrong. I feel like, I mean,
even if she did leave it, I feel like Kyland is not the
type to go and do that. I agree with you, but it's domb
he should have Yeah, I mean, there's it's definitely something that gets done
in every challenge ever. But I feel like he's not one to do I
feel like he feels like he is too much integrated to do that. And
the third game is they have to stack three sets of blocks on top of
each other and then pull a rope on top of each other on top of
a platform, and then pull a rope to lift the platform to a certain
height without all of the blocks falling. This is like two different Survivor things
put together. It is OK. So I was talking earlier about how I
thought I got spoiled for this season. This was the point in time where
I basically was like, oh, I don't have take notes anymore. Obviously,
Nurice gets stuck on this. Kylon finishes his tanagram, he runs through
the other two, and she's still stuck on trying to pick, trying to
get this to go up. When these things keep falling over and he's gonna
win, I was like, oh, I didn't have to pay attention anymore.
And the wrong and she it's just this and grabs her flag and runs
and wait, wait a second, what this is? This is not how
this supposed to end. Yeah, every every leg surprised me. I just
kept waiting for Nurse to fail, and yeah, she rocked it. Because
we've definitely seen it in previous seasons where someone has like they've been way ahead,
way ahead, way ahead, and then for something as simple as just
trying to get a stack of blocks to not fall over when they're picking them
up has completely ruined their lead. We've seen that happen. Well, this
we saw two people get dekeyed on basically a tanagram. You know, Kylin
and Harassio have been kind of crushing it this season, and they were took
out by that stupid puzzle. I love tanagrams. I'm pretty good at tannagrams.
There are some of my favorite puzzles. Yeahines, thanks Derell. Uh.
Yeah. Ultimately, Naris ens up winning the whole thing and sends Kyland
and Hirasio home. You could tell TJ was ecstatic at this, cheering so
Stove cheering her on the whole time, laughing. Yes, TJ was loving
this, loving it. I mean, it's it was a bummer to see
Kyland and Harassio go home, because it's been fun. I mean, I
guess it's been more fun to watch them go against the main alliance of the
house yeah, but it was. It was really nice to see Nourice just
house this elimination. Yeah, it's a bummer they're going because now the main
alliance is just they're just gonna run the whole thing, which is very boring.
Yes, but I know some people don't like watching the previous but this
isn't a big of a deal. But I mean, Nourice literally shows back
up and she's like, I'm going to elimin all of you. I think
that was actually the end of the episode, wasn't it. We saw the
recent so the very end of the episode, we see her walking towards the
house and everybody's you hear a bunch of people what no, no way,
and then it cuts to black. Okay, but I didn't I didn't see
the preview for next episode, so that's good to know. She comes back
in the house, she still got her uniform on. Everybody's around her and
she just looks at all of them and she's like, I'm going to send
all of you home, and Olivia like, of course, is bawling in
terms and walks away from the group or whatever. But just yeah, so
I'm excited for next week. Yeah, first time i've been excited for the
next episode. It'll probably it up just being a huge letdown. We'll see.
I'm gonna say, hopefully something comes event it's not just her coming in
last place again, throwing an elimination going home. Yeah, I'm struggling because
I'm still struggling to find somebody to root for. I was rooting for Ed,
and so Ed went home. It's like, all right, that's all
right, because I like Kyland all of a sudden this episode, and now
I'm ritten for Kyland and then Guy goes. It's like, well, fuck,
now I'm back to like I hate all these people. I don't want
anybody to win. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm living side right now
because she's she's gonna send everybody home. Yeah, yeah, because you you
all know how much I love it when chaos gets injected into the house and
it looks like she's gonna try to do that next episode successful or not.
We we uh saw they have moved past that. We're on conquest now,
you're so funny, Zach. Chris wants to know, do we think Nurise
is now higher in the food chain because she has no one else. I
think it's the opposite her threatening to send everybody home is gonna make her target.
Yeah. I feel like Jay is still going to try and pretend like
he has her back. But that's just because they're friends on the outside world,
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something along the lines of, like, so when are we going to have
intercourse? What this is that he's Zach? Do we have any social media
stuff? We jokers just pointing out we do. So. First off,
like I said, very Johnny Bananas heavy, Johnny Bananas has become a part
owner in the Orange County Soccer Club, So anyone since in California you can
go support his team that he now owns partially. So Bananas is easing out
of the Challenge world. It's getting old. Bought a gym, bought a
soccer team, yes, and then also speaking of the gym, that's and
every thing we got is that he posted on his Facebook that he's pretty much
hiring for all positions as Jim. So if you're living in Florida, go
go work for the man. Yep tomorrow z that announces I'm moving to Florida.
Guys, enjoy those hurricanes. I will. And then yeah, and
then the only other thing I have is, uh, did anyone end up
watching the new Challenge home spin off Home Front? Nope? Okay, I
watched that earlier today with CT. It is amazing. I recommend it,
like Halfway Covered is like life before the show A lot of it was basically
starting from his Real World season then just kind of like him discussing each like
season of the show he did, you know, he talked a lot about
the Banana's backpack, his feud with Adam, obviously, lots about DM.
But the two big things I got away from there that I thought were interesting
is Uh mentioned that his younger brother actually went to school with Kara Maria and
he's actually known car since long before the show. Yeah. That, okay,
I didn't know that, but I didn't know that either. I mean,
it makes a lot more sense as to why she was always so like,
you know, CT and me, we're gonna like it's not just Boston
strong like it. Their bond makes a lot more sense now. Yeah.
And then I also feel like I might have had this before and forgot.
But he talked about DM and how you know, at the end of her
life, when she was having to take a lot of shots in medicine,
she hated needles, you know, couldn't take her mess in that. Well,
so Banana's actually like moved in a couple of houses down from her and
would go there every day and give her her mess and give her shots and
like her until her passing. Yeah, he's like that's He's like, so
that that's why him and Bananas now are so cool, apparently on the show
is because Banana's like relocated temporarily to be there to like take care of Dim
at the end of her life. Did he relocate specifically for that or he
just happened to be living in that area? So so it sounds like he
and Dim had a mutual friend that lived a couple of houses down from DM,
so he moved in with the mutual friend so that way he could be
there and take care of Dim. Don't say nice things about him, Yeah,
I mean if that's if that's all truly the way it went down,
then good on him. But I feel like that maybe skewed in his favor.
Carlin has doubts. Yes, okay, well maybe maybe he made Bananas
hired CT to like give him good press. Yeah that's it. But yeah,
no, it was really good. I highly recommend you guys check it
out next week, is Carl Maria. So I don't love that that they're
doing Boston back to back weeks, Like we just saw a bunch of Boston
where CT lives, and if him and Car's you know, if his brother
and Carr went to school together, I'm guessing she's from the same basic area,
Like, we don't need to see that area two weeks in a row.
Do you think they'll go someplace She's like, this is where I went
to blah blah blah, and then in the background across the street, you'll
see a camera film in the same locations. It's very possible we might.
Goose Force wants to know if they'll show some of the weird orgy stuff that
they do. What caah, yeah, Brittany, Yeah, you'll see Turbo
and Brittany in the background going at it. And Scott pointed out that Zach
told Polly he couldn't unfunck his girlfriend. That's what I liked, Polly because
he was driving Zach and say and yeah, that's what we have for social
media. Goose Or says, you guys should go to one of their Mexican
retreats for content. No, oh, Carlin seem interested. No, i'd
go to Mexico. I don't want to go to one of the retreats.
Then I know. Olivia did a did her podcast today talking about everything that
went down on this sty but I've not had a chance to listen that yet.
Olivia has a podcast. She does her and of her friends do a
weekly podcast. But it sucks. It's definitely not as good as ours.
It's probably a bunch of person like explaining why this was a why she made
that choice, and that it's not a big deal that that does seem like
what this week's episode about. As you know, why she did it?
Are they friends now? Like you know that she regretted and why or why
not? What's that dumpster fire called? Zach Scott wants to know? Uh,
you know what? I don't let me look it up real quick.
It's on her insta. I would call it. Oh no, Olivia,
Well, if she's doing it with a partner, then you can still be
a partner, right, it's called give me that mic Mine's better blasted in
the forecast, so many meetings, All right, we'll good times. Go
listen to another podcast, I guess, or don't don't, Oh no,
Olivia and Friends, Yeah, Chris m all right, Well, I guess
that's it for this episode of Challenged, Big Uncle, Sweet Tepe, Carlin
San Diego, Zachie Bananas. It is uh Nurice Will hopefully say next week,
I'm a you all home, Light this house on fire. The Shalie ship murdering