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Hey, everybody, Welcome back to
the Challenge to podcast. All about the

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challenge as always. I'm Brian sitting
in his bedroom. Your furn is still

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not working, still not working big
on the sweet tea. But like four

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weeks now, three weeks, I
think I think we're going into the third

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week. And the guy told me
three weeks, so we'll see. Yeah,

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sitting over at Minnesota, enjoying a
nice cup of tea so she doesn't

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mess up her meds. Yeah,
Carl in San Diego, and it's out

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of a mug that my mom made, a homemade mug. A nice creative

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family. And as usual, sitting
at work, Jack Banana being the only

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one who's actually getting paid to do
this show right now, Zach's the smartest

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one of all of us. What
are we doing this on a free time?

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What the hell? I may I
got paid to write my notes this

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afternoon. Oh there you go,
Wow, there you go. Hey,

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everybody had her challengebout dot com joined
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group. Old School superfan Heather finally posted

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a video of her doing the worm
from twenty eighteen. She had promised in

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the early days of this show Man
flashbacks. We're having flashbacks here to early

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Challenge days. It is crazy.
Heather hasn't been in the chat room in

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forever. She went and had two
children at the same time. Yeah,

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like this, so damn this is
awesome. Sorry, I had to go

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look it up. Yeah, Scott
says a Jay sucks end of podcast.

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Yeah, I agree, Scott.
I don't know what else there's saying about

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this this round. This is maybe
the most disappointing episode of the season so

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far, and a season full of
disappointments. I was actually, I was

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actually much happier about this episode than
I originally anticipated, being Oh, really,

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I've been holding this in up until
this episode. I thought that I

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was spoiled. Oh spoiled for the
winner. You got a fake spoiler?

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Yeah, because I was. I
can't remember I read it somewhere that Kylon

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won the whole thing, Okay,
So I have for weeks have thought that

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he was going to be the winner. So when we got into this,

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uh this episode and he was yet
again in the elimination, and was like,

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oh, well he's gonna come back. Yep, I was. I've

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been fake spoiled. A couple of
times. I love it. There's nothing

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better than when it's you think you
know what's gonna happen, and then something

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else happens. You're like, wait
what. I was typing notes, and

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as I'm typing notes, I'm like, oh, well, he's obviously gonna

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pull this out. I don't even
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and it was a second what.
Yeah, crazy, It's always the best.

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Has anybody been real real spoiled Zach? You always seem to get real

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spoiled, uh not on the season. I have not not this season.

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Well, you've avoided him, I've
avoided it. But I would say the

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way this season is going, if
I was fake spoiled that Kylon won,

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I think I'd be extremely upset that
I was wrong. I want to be

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right. Yeah, yeah, this
is a season and I mean, we'll

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get into it. But this episode
I started liking Kylon. Finally. This

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episode took me a minute, but
I'm I suddenly started liking him. And

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then yeah, as he's like,
he just keeps getting thrown in. He's

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having a really hard season, and
I'm like, this is great. I

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love it when people have hard seasons
and pull it out. But oh yeah,

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I was. I was happy that
I wasn't actually spoiled, but also

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rather upset that I wasn't actually spoiled. Yeah, all right, well we

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can. Heather and Maverick both said
they've been spoiled purposefully or you were you

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guys accidentally spoiled. I was spoiled
on an up episode by Challenge Mania when

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Klara was coming back. Yeah,
oh, both of them are accidentally.

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That sucks. Dang, that does
suck. Well, let's get into it.

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Episode sixteen of season thirty nine,
Family Knows Best. I wonder what

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that could be alluding to. So
we start this episode off with one of

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Wolfe's favorite things. Actually, I
think it was Wolfe who hated this in

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years past, where they played the
last like two minutes of the previous episode

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as the beginning of this episode.
Oh no, that might have been ten.

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Yeah. I hate that. I
hate that. This is the clear

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filler, the obvious filler, like, oh, we don't know what to

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do with two Church minu It's just
just make them watch the same fucking shit

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again. Yes, So we watch
Kyland and Horasio beat Zara and then say

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goodbye to her, and then finally
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head back to the house, and
we get a talking head from Kyland saying

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that he's going to he's planning on
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the only one that's that has come
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He walks up into the house that
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real damn is moving. Oh stop
now, see I can't point it out

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because next time I'll try to freeze. I kind of purposely, like on

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accident, moved my head. Next
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to this podcast. In the free
show Wolf, he pointed out, but

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in Tim's camera it looks like his
forehead is moving when it's not. And

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yeah, I think it's just a
weird like his forehead is doing the worm

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weird do it again? Oh oh, it moved again. I think it

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might just be the shadows on his
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who knows, hmm, it's a
weird illusion. Chris. Yes, I'm

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not the only one. All right, Well, we get we get Kylon

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walking back into the house and everybody
she's kind of like, oh my god,

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no way, You're the only one. Is anybody else coming back?

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I feel like Kylon played this off
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I did not know he is gonna
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good. Yeah, he did a
good job of this. Yeah he did.

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Yeah. He comes back and says, yeah, they we got there

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and we all completed separately. So
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kind of poses it like, oh, well, maybe there are other people

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coming back. I don't know,
but I don't think so. The Big

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Alliance seems very very happy that they
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that was not supposed to happen.
We're not there yet, yeah,

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Jamie. Jamie asks what I was
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this? What was there a strategy
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Like, what's going on here?
I think this was more of a just

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a prank because he said down a
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to go as far as it did, right, because everybody's bawling and something.

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Yeah, because Olivia takes this really
hard. She s also's forehead movie,

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so it's like his face is doing
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man, I don't think it's actually
moving well, We're all just gonna

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sit here in silence and stare at
his jeez. Oh yeah, okay,

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I do you know what you mean? It is? It's like a weird

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distortion on the camp. Is that
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No, I'm not gonna move.
I'm just gonna stay frozen. Sure this

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is great for all the listeners.
But yeah, so Olivia is really upset.

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She's feeling bad because she said that
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He's in the previous episode we saw
him pick him. Yeah, this seems

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to later on in this episode.
Really, it's sad about it, Olivia.

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Yeah, I'm I'm falling out of
love with Olivia too, Mack.

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How are you feeling disappointed? You
know, like I I love Olivia.

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I want to love her. She's
like my fellow Alaska. But she's making

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it really hard. Yeah, she's
She's screwed up this episode in a major

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way. Yes, she sh did. We'll get there. And then Harassio

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comes walk around the corner, walks
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not everybody. Olivia is super excited, Nurie is super excited. But this

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is when Kylon's like oscar Worthy like
acting. Yeah, even he goes running

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up running over it gives them like
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bro high fives that they do.
I've never been cool enough to be able

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to pull that off, but respect, he did a really good job on

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playing this off. Yeah, yeah, I do. I'm I'm with Jamie

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though, like why like why was
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can't they just say like, haha, gotcha, Like, I don't know,

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I just don't understand what the point
of this was. Who knows who

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was it? Chris pointed out,
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seeing who got upset and who celebrated
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but was it really though, Like
it's kind of all the people that you

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expected to be celebrating. Yeah.
Later Kylon says something like, oh,

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Harassio and I are the only ones
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not going to tell anybody or something
like that. I mean, like we've

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seen this before where they've done the
private eliminations and whoever's coming back, they

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you know, keep it real tight
amongst themselves, right, which I don't

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mind. I kind of like the
private eliminations, you know, keep everybody

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in the dark. Yeah, I
don't mind that at all. We get

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an exchange between Kylind and Berna.
She pops back up in this episode in

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a relatively negative boy quite a few
times. Yeah, this is this is

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where I started liking Kyland during the
Kland and Berna. Yeah, because she

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she says something along the lines to
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I was I was feeling so bad
for these two because talking about Nourice

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and Olivia, because they were so
sad that you guys were in and now

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that Horacio wasn't was potentially not coming
back, and Kylon goes, but were

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you really, like, were you
actually sad for that, because you're part

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of the reason why we went in, and she just fucking loses it on

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him. Yeah. It was ridiculous. And then I don't even remember what

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she said, but he at some
point says like, Berna, I can

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talk about whatever I want. It's
just like, yeah you can, Kylin,

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good for you. Berna is insane. She's a total lunatic, that

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woman. Yeah. Well, and
then the very next scene is her and

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I'm gonna pull a tim on this
one and say, I don't care about

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any of the next like five minutes, Berna is sitting there talking to Emmanuel.

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Oh yeah about how heard. She
gives the sob story about how her

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her life back home isn't is hard
because her mom doesn't talk to her,

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And this is like everyone that's on
this show has their own sob story.

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Everybody does. Everybody on this show
is a little fucked up. It's just

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the way it is. And yeah, I mean it just it felt like

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she was just trying to gain sympathy
for that and blame the reason why she's

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just why she lets loose on everybody
on this That's that's not a valid reason.

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Your trauma is not a reason to
take it out on somebody else,

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right, Yeah, this conversation especially
was super weird to have them just talk

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about how much they love their moms. Like, is this what we're doing

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now in the challenge? We're watching
people cry about their moms. Fast forward,

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let's move on an Emmanuel talks to
like, actually talks to his mom,

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calls her up, which I mean, lovely, great. I'm glad

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you guys have a good relationship.
But I don't care. I don't care

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there, I'm not here. Good, my apathy is spreading to the rest

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of the podcast. All Right,
it's only matter of time, Z act

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before you don't give a shit about
any these people there. I've always tried.

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Almost every time that you have said
I don't care about these kinds of

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things, I have agreed with you. Oh good. I always felt that

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way because all right, I don't
watch the show to get the backstory.

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If I wanted the backstory and these
people, I would watch shows on TLC,

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right, yeah, yeah, but
those are full of people with multiple

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children and little people. Yeah,
yeah, I don't care. This is

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why I don't watch shows like that, because I just don't care. And

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then we are off to the challenge. It's a real abrupt cut, real

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abrupt on the show here too,
because Wolfie doesn't know what to do.

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I was sma, I need it. Indistinguishable by the way I sounded exactly

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like, yes, exactly the same. Couldn't tell the difference. All right.

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The challenges Heights above Water and the
name is end of the line.

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This very reminiscent of Battle of the
Sexes, which we covered here on this

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podcast. I don't remember if they
called it the same challenge, but this

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is the one. Ruthie just fucking
dominated it. Oh, first Battle of

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the Sexes Okay, yeah, million
years ago, I don't remember that.

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Yeah, it was off a crane, and yeah, Ruthie was the one.

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Ruthie just shot down so fast,
caught it with like an inch to

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go in, like I could see
her two seconds or something. Crazy.

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Yeah, she won this one.
Car I think basically this is they're all

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up on a on these platforms above
the water, and they are attached to

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a rope, so they have to
repel down this rope as fast as they

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can and get as close to the
very end of this rope as they possibly

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can. They have a mechanism on
their carabineer that they can squeeze to slow

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themselves down or stop themselves completely.
And it's the fastest person to the bottom

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of the rope, fastest person to
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rope wins, and the slowest person
if everybody stays on the rope, slowest

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person to go the distance and not
far very far is the loser. But

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if anyone falls off, it's the
slowest person to fall off. Yeah,

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do we think this is fair?
Is that the right way to do this.

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Slowest person to fall off, yeah, because I mean that would mean

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that they were they If they were
slow getting off of it, then it

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meant that they were slow coming down
it, so they wouldn't have gotten very

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like as far down as quickly as
anybody else anyway. Yeah, but yeah,

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but still, I mean, I
understand because there's very in the very

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first heat, James falls off almost
immediately. Yeah. Well, and it

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seems like that that is a worse
performance to me. It seems like falling

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off right away you did worse than
the guy that sort of inched down and

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fell off. But I mean,
I guess I can see both ways.

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I don't know the best way to
do this. Yeah, so I don't

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have it, But I don't know
that they'd be able to really like,

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I don't know how well they'd be
able to prove that that was fair,

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too. I don't know if it's
fair either way. That's the thing.

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It's it's very subjective. I think
James should have gone home. I think

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he did the worst, you know, frankly, But I understand, and

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the rules were what they were,
and d knew the rules, so you

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know, it is what it is. But it sucks. I think it's

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good rules because the challenges basically get
as far down as fast as you can,

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so you're being timed on speed.
You should be punished when you don't

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have speed. I see that too, Yeah, that's the I can see

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it both ways. It's hard to
decide who to go home, and I

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guess as long as they know it
up front, I guess it doesn't matter.

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But I don't know it just it
feels a little weird to me as

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all. Yep. I almost forgot
to mention this was a sponsored challenge.

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Sponsored it. You got to see
the shoes and then the winner would won

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fifteen thousand dollars to basically go on
an under arm or shopping spree. It's

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not BK, but you know it's
nice. It's not a T mobile sidekick,

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it's not a Razor scooter. Yeah, for sure, So he won.

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You have James, who, like
we said, falls off almost immediately

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because he cannot figure out how to
use the stopping device. And it looks

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like he wrote burns the shit out
of his hand and his device looked fucked

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up too, by the way,
because everybody else's handles were up. And

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he even said, like my handle's
not up. I do think there's something

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wrong with his thing. I yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there was,

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like if they just didn't connect it
right or I don't know, but

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it was still like, if it
was really that wrong, then maybe they

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should have let him go again.
Who knows, Yeah, not that they

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would. I was wondering though,
because he was asking Horasio if, like

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if his was in the same way, and like how to work this,

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and Horassio was laughing the whole time. Do you think Horassio purposely gave him

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bad directions to screw him over.
No, because they they were all saying

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the same thing. They were all
saying that it was on the top and

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that you just need to squeeze it, and yeah, it looks just laughing

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about the fact that James couldn't get
it figured out. Yeah, it looked

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like when it showed the devices,
it looked like Rassio's little red lever could

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move up and down, and it
looked like James's was stuck down. But

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it was. It was a quick
little shot and I don't know if James

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then fixed it, like who knows
what happens after that, but it certainly

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didn't look right when it showed it. Yeah, it made me wonder whether

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they actually gave them like full instructions
on how to use these things or if

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it was just like here, go
up there and figure it out right.

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Hm. But James loses that round
because he decus uh. Horasio wins that

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he relatively quickly. But he also
wrote burns the shit out of his hand.

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Yeah, they show they show them
going to the medic and oh my

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god, I was like, oh
yeah, full body crunch. Yeah,

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that was that was tough to look
at. Still full body cringe ough gives

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me the heb gbs. Yeah.
Right before we get heat too, we

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get a cutaway to Jay talking about
how his first time repelling was in the

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middle of the night, down one
thousand feet outside of Las Vegas, with

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only with his headlamp in his teeth, And I call bullshit. I can't

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fucking stand anything this guy says or
does this season. Every time he opens

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his mouth, I want him to
shut up. This drove me nuts for

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reasons I can't quite explain, but
it's I don't know. I didn't like

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this. Yeah, it drove me. And like the first time you repel,

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that's not the first time you were
repelling. Your first time repelling is

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not going to be down a thousand
feet that's on a mountain outside of Las

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Vegas. So that's that's not what
happened this episode. Does Jay no favors?

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Scott says he was coming down from
Mount douchebag. He's the worst this

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season, just the worst, this
entire episode. Yeah, I agree with

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you. How horrible j is just
awful? Kylind wins Heat two, Heat

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three, j wins and Ed d
q's Heat four, Colleen wins and Heat

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five, Corey dqs and Berna wins. Can we can we revisit a topic

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from last week? Are carlyon you
agreed with me? James hair up or

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hair down? Better than hair up? Yes? Ed is the reverse?

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Right? Yes? Ed better up? Trash down looks horrible down. I

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think it's the way that he does
it when it's down, like he just

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lets it kind of be this mass
of hair and there's no real I don't

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know, it's just a big triangle
on the top of his head and it

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looks odd. Yeah, if you
had the flowing locks like James, that'd

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be all right. So now so
now I need to know Tim when I

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have long hair hair up, her
hair down, I think at all.

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No, Zack's not a long hair
guy. I like the long hair zact

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and I liked it down. Yeah, yeah, Zach, you look much

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better with the short hair. I
had no opinion. I'm still pissed that

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you had all that hair and didn't
appreciate it. I think that's why what

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Tim likes it to. You know, I think you appreciate it. Those

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ac did you appreciate that? Do
you appreciate that head of hair you got?

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I do? And you know a
lot of people are on Team Carlin.

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They think I look better short hair. Allison has seen photos of the

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long hair. She doesn't hate it, so maybe I will make it comeback

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in some way. Joker says t
needs to get laid as a p all

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he's talking about is how hot dudes
are every week. Joker, don't even

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worry about my my penis. Man, he's getting laid like every other day,

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Joker, don't even worry about a
Joker. And then when he gets

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done Joke, he done some home. It's right, it's pretty cool.

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It's pretty cool. Tim's gotten laid
more than the rest of us on the

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show. Recently. That's right,
that's right, It's definitely true. All

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right. So ultimately we have the
three DQ's, which to Corey, Ed

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and James. James is super excited
that there are two other people who dqued

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because he thought he was going home
for sure, and Ed ends up being

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the slowest, which is a really
shitty way to lose him. What was

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Ed thinking? Ed is too smart
to fuck up this royally? Right?

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What was he doing? I think
he I think he was just thinking like,

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oh, I can get another few
inches out of this and just didn't

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That's what she said. Yeah,
and just didn't squeeze it tight enough for

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something. Hadn't he already lost by
the time he fell off the thing too,

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So after you lose, especially,
just be like, well, I'm

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I'm just gonna be here. I
don't know, I don't know what he

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was to approve. He even said
that all I had to do was was

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go out onto the rope and be
like check and then just be done.

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Yeah, would be fine. Yeah. I can see him wanting to win.

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I can see him trying to win, but once somebody else in his

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heat wins, just just be done
then, you know, I just I

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don't know. I don't get it. Yeah, who knows? And Joker

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wants to know if you think about
us off when you're Yeah, I did,

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of course, Well I get it's
time. I guess the way you

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win is you get down as low
as you can, as fast as you

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can. So even though someone got
down like faster than him, maybe he

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was thinking, well, it might
take me longer if I get lower than

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them, I beat them. Yeah, I guess, Yeah, maybe I

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don't know. I'm just I guess
I'm just more cautious and not so competitive.

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I would have taken the easy like
stay in the game, you know,

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especially because the heat that he was
in had Jay in it. And

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I mean, I will give Jay
this. He is a rock claimer like

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we we've heard this in previous seasons. He did that. He did a

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an elimination against Awesome in one in
his first season where they were hanging from

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a bar. Was it awesive?
I think it was awesome. Yeah,

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it was hanging from a bar up
above above the ground. And like his

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climbing skills really benefited him there.
So I don't know why Ed thought that,

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like, oh this is a good
idea. Yeah, he's he's kicking

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himself. He uh, you know, he al's chin up and whatever.

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But I bet you on the flight
home he was just like, what the

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fuck was I thinking? Probably,
and of course fucking Jay ends up winning

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it thinks this was real. I
do the second the second I saw Jack,

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who thinks this this is real outside
of Zagie Pane the j one,

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Yeah, I think it's real.
Yeah, I think he won. I

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think the second I saw him,
like, do the the challenge, I

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was like, oh, he just
want it, Like he looked life speeds

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faster than anyone else. Yeah.
See, I thought Horasio looked faster.

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I think if production was going to
put their finger on a scale, they

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would want Harassio to stay an extra
some extra time. Yeah, I just

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I think Chris points out, if
they were going to rig it, it

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would have been better TV to have
Horassio with. Is that what Chris said

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or is that what I said?
Chris all the above? Did you literally

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just say that? Yeah, I
was not listening. I was looking at

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the chat room clearly. I forgive
you. I forgive you. So we

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go back home and they're all sitting
around because now it's Jay has to make

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the decision of who he's going to
pick in their nominations. It'll be that

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trickle down effect if he picked someone
and they pick someone and so on and

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so forth. The only thing worse
than Jay power tripping is this whatever this

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shitty passive aggressive thing was to power
trip while pretending like he wasn't power trip.

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Yeah. Well, and it all
starts out because literally, the very

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first thing that he says when we
get back to the house is that his

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his pick is going to either be
Michelle or Emmanuel. And he looks at

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Michelle and he goes, I think
I'm going to pick a manual. And

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it's like you what, Yeah?
Does he have a strategy on her face?

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Like excuse me, Yeah, what
is the strategy? What is Jay

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doing? Why would Jay think that? And why would he tell that to

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Michelle because he's a fucking jackass.
I do not understand what's going on with

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that guy. Yeah, well,
this also we the next little bit of

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this is we get Maurice talking to
I think Olivia and Michelle or something like

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that, and she is basically talking
about how she's now quite like truly questioning

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whether Jay actually has any loyalty to
her. And I thought yesterday last week's

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episode proved that he doesn't. I'm
confused as to why she still thinks that

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he would, and I personally think
he does. I think it's a messive

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way of doing it. But I
think he like he wants to remove her

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and Olivia's like extra people to force
them to be loyal to him. But

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I believe once their like extended people
are gone, he's going to be truly

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loyal to those two girls. I
mean, I don't believe that. I

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think that he talks a big game, and I think he's full of shit.

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Yeah, and I think he's also
sort of like rudderless sometimes. And

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I don't know if this is the
conversation, but at some point he says,

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like, I'm done with h Kylin
Tarassio. We don't need to worry

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about them. It's like what you've
been picking on them the whole season?

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What what stopped it? Now?
Like what now changed it? But I

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don't know, I just don't get
what he's thinking or what he's doing.

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Yeah, because Nourisa has doing this
whole thing. She has a conversation with

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him saying, like, you know, please say Farasi, please don't put

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him down there, and Jay agrees
with that. So I think it was

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kind of during that whole exchange that
he said that, you know, we

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don't have to worry about them anymore. But then we got to the club

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night, uh, and Mariah sits
down with Nourice and tells her like,

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oh, I've heard some things about
who we want in the bottom and this,

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that and the other. Uh.
And Jay said that he's going to

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he wants to put down Colleen with
Hirasio and Kyland, and Maurice is like,

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wait a second, what Harasio he
said Hirasio, Yeah, yeah,

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to Nourice, he says this to
Yeah. I don't think he was ever

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saving Kyland or Rosa. I think
he just didn't want to deal with Nourse

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in the moment. But yeah,
but that's still we're seeing like that sort

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of gameplay. We're seeing why that
doesn't work because Michelle and Jay have made

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too many promises to too many people. They have too many number ones in

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fighting them. Yeah, this episode
was the epitome of if you were going

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to have a hierarchy in your alliance, you need to actually stick to said

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hierarchy and have one number one yes
and one number two and like go down

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like that because you cannot be friends
with everybody in this house. It does

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not work because you get to a
point in the game like this where everybody

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is up for grabs and you're going
to have to start voting in your people.

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Yeah, it happens every season,
and I don't understand why. Like

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Michelle, especially in this episode,
freaked out about having to vote someone that

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she wanted in. Yep, weird. I don't get any there. Yeah,

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yeah, this is we at the
club, Michelle's going through this massive

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list of people that she has to
save. I just I don't understand it.

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Yeah, it's a purely semantic thing. I know. I'm stuck on

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the semantics of it. But yes, people say like, oh, that's

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my number one, and that's my
other number one. I'm just like,

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fuck you, you're so stupid,
Like, yeah, it draws me nuts,

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and I feel like we saw we
heard a lot of people say that

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this episode. Yes, there were
a lot of number ones this episode,

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a lot of like, oh that's
my other number one. Yep, we're

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getting to the point it's getting messy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and

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while we're at the club, we
get a talking head from Jay where he

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kind of outs Olivia, where apparently
the earlier in the day or within the

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00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:33,640
last few days, Olivia told him
that she doesn't want to run the final

408
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:41,759
against Horasio, basically giving him like
free reign to vote Hirasio in, which

409
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,240
is, Yeah, I think we
saw this last episode. Yeah, I

410
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,400
feel like that. I feel like
that's actually a throwback clip. I feel

411
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,839
like that was like early on when
she's doing the whole thing of like,

412
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:55,599
I don't even know if he's chilling
my friend or I may have missed it

413
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,119
earlier on, but it came back
and full force this episode. Jacqueline wants

414
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,240
to know, do you think they're
just holding on to James to beat him

415
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,000
in the final or is it just
for Mariah. I think it's just for

416
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,119
Mariah. I do too. He's
a dumb number, so they'll just keep

417
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,759
him around. And I think I
think they're not scared of him too.

418
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,119
Yeah, they know if they take
him out, Mariah jumps ship. So

419
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,079
they got to like play along until
they have a big enough numbers advantage to

420
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:25,279
take him out and still outnumber the
other side. Yep, which I mean

421
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,200
very well could be next episode,
because yeah, we got rid of two

422
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,519
of them, two of the numbers
against them. So we're back in the

423
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:40,559
house. Uh, and Jay is
freaking out on Michelle because she wants She's

424
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,039
trying to figure out what the order
needs to be, and he keeps doing

425
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,720
the This is when he's power tripping
about like, I can only pick one

426
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,039
person, yeah, and so this
is up to you to figure out the

427
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,319
rest of my choice. Yeah,
I get to pick one person. It's

428
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,920
up to you, guys. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like this

429
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,359
is like a power aggressive or a
passive aggressive power play. I think that's

430
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,279
like a guilt trip power play something
or other. Either way, Shit,

431
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:11,559
it was a super shitty move.
He's just yeah, he's frustrating to watch.

432
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:22,839
Yep. Yeah, Oh I just
lost my place. Oh uh.

433
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,599
Olivia and Nourice and Michelle are all
sitting in the room talking now, and

434
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,680
you know, Nourice is telling them
like, I would rather go in than

435
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,559
have Kylin and Horassio go in again, And of course Michelle and Olivia like,

436
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,359
oh, you shouldn't sacrifice your game. You should still want to be

437
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:45,279
here. And then Olivia turns to
Michelle and says like, I don't know

438
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,440
if I can trust you, Like
I feel like you're gonna vote me in

439
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:56,799
and Michelle's response to her was,
I would literally never literally did it last

440
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:02,599
week, like you put her in
the bottom to bottom four last week.

441
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,839
Last week it was Noursa's decision of
who to save. See this is why

442
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:15,680
I hate the way this voting thing
works now. With smaller alliances, this

443
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,079
would have been a really fun way
to do it. But yes, I

444
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,920
agree with with a huge alliance and
the predictable winner, It's like, it's

445
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,119
just it's not very interesting. I'm
so bored with like how this plays out.

446
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,480
Yeah, and I'm going to be
so bored with the rest of the

447
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,000
season. Yeah. Yeah. Nourice
does call out Michelle for putting Mariah and

448
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:37,359
James above her and Olivia, though, and Michelle's kind of like, uh,

449
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:45,480
doesn't know what to say. Uh, we are onto nominations. Don't

450
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:52,799
say my name, bitch, see
master of impressions right over here. Sounded

451
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,000
just like her indistinguishable. Yep,
it's gonna be your new job is to

452
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:05,559
bus the music with your mouth.
Oh acapella, Yes, all right,

453
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,440
I can do that. We start
off the nomination. Jay sits down and

454
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,720
he says Michelle, and then t
J kind of turns to him and it

455
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:21,200
is like, you look real upset
right now. What's going on? And

456
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
he and Michelle both kind of lay
out that there's been a bunch of chaos

457
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,400
in the house recently and today was
a day and I don't it's just frustrating

458
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,160
to see all of us, and
yeah, this is the petulant child Jay

459
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:37,279
grumpy face on the couch. Yeah, all I can do is save her

460
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,599
because she's been my ride or die. Yeah, you can tell it.

461
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,160
It was sort of like, I
don't really want to do this, I

462
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,039
just have to do this. Michelle
fuck off. Well, and then TJ

463
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:51,519
turns to Michelle because Michelle is very
obviously upset, and she's up there and

464
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,519
she looks like she's about to start
bawling, and she gives her bullshits bullshit

465
00:33:54,599 --> 00:34:00,240
speech about how hard it is to
choose the next person, because you know,

466
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:04,160
she loves everybody, and she starts
in her talking head, starts going

467
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,240
down the line like, you know, my number one, my sanity,

468
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,719
my best friend, my you know, my heart. This is just a

469
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,199
bunch of ways of saying you're number
one, so you have at least four

470
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:23,519
of them? What, Yeah,
And then she kind of pulls it a

471
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:31,480
wild card and she saves Olivia like, okay, cool, we're freaking all

472
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,719
of us freaking out at this point. No, not not quite. I

473
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,760
was. I was kind of like, okay, this, this is kind

474
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,079
of neat. I'm okay with this. I don't know how this happened,

475
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,440
but I'm okay with this. Like
I was so excited. I was like,

476
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:50,079
oh my gosh, the Minority Alliance
did it. Like they infiltrated somehow.

477
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,880
They're all going to be safe.
M M. I was not because

478
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,360
something we didn't talk about in the
pre show. We have a ship new

479
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,079
people in the Facebook group and people
I don't think we're aware of the twenty

480
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:09,639
four hour Yeah, I had to. I had a rule kill a few

481
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:15,199
comments today and just put a hey, heads up spoilers. Yeah, And

482
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,239
I wasn't completely spoiled, but I'd
be scrolling through my phone and i'd see

483
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,079
a post from our group and I
saw something like I'm so mad at Olivia,

484
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,119
and I was like, oh fuck, So when you called Olivia,

485
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,280
I'm like, oh, well,
she's obviously not going to choose the people

486
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,960
we want her to choose. And
you know, I saw a lot of

487
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,119
those posts and I that did not
even cross my mind. I don't know

488
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:47,039
why. I've made a new post
telling everybody welcome new people, and you

489
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:52,320
know, everybody seems cool about it. Yeah, so we get a flashback

490
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,719
of why Olivia came to this decision. But what do you guys, we

491
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,960
haven't said. I haven't said Olivia's
decision yet. Oh sorry. Yeah.

492
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,960
We get Michelle picking Olivia, and
then Olivia sits up there and she goes,

493
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:10,280
I'm gonna pick Mariah and that's what
floored me. Yeah, and that's

494
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,280
when we get the flashback. Well
for you love these flashbacks, fucking hate

495
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,239
it. Just give us all the
information up front. Yeah, so,

496
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:23,719
Zach, my question for you,
I understand why Olivia had that conversation at

497
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,800
the pool and why she got her
name called. Why didn't she uh go

498
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,760
against one? Why didn't she?
I don't know, that's what she should

499
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,599
have done. I was thinking of
it. They just lost Ed, so

500
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:39,760
they're down in number. Now she
can cripple that lines even more. It

501
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,400
would have gotten so easy. Yeah. Yes, Kyland and her Assio and

502
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,199
even her and Nuris are strong competitors. Like if you could get like Ed

503
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,960
and Jay or a manual this episode, you can run the competitions. Possibly.

504
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,639
I think Olivia thought that she was
going to be in a better position,

505
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:59,000
but she's not. Now she's at
the bottom of a big alliance,

506
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:01,800
which she's no better off. You're
better off in the middle of the of

507
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,599
a smaller alliance, you know,
I don't know. This seemed like a

508
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:08,800
very bad move for a lot of
reasons. Yeah, Like I mean,

509
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,320
it's one of those things where if
she had been if she had said Nuris

510
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,280
or Hiracio or Kyland, whatever,
if she'd picked the small alliance, they'd

511
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,880
gotten all of their people. They
sent three people from the big alliance out

512
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,519
and we didn't know that there were
going to be two people not coming home

513
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:27,159
this time. I think it very
easily they could have gotten Colleen to flip

514
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:36,480
to their alliance. I mean,
potentially, maybe not Berna kind of a

515
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,840
package deal. Corey seems to be
up Michelle's ass. I think Corey is

516
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,199
the type of player that if the
numbers slept, he would run to whoever

517
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,440
has the power. I do too. I don't think he's loyal because he

518
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,800
likes her or anything. I think
he just feels safe over there. Yeah,

519
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,519
that's probably true, but I definitely
think they could get Colleen, So

520
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,159
like Olivia is the big one and
we're still going through a list, but

521
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:01,199
there are a couple other people that
I'm like, oh, you have a

522
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:07,320
chance, and they completely just online
with everybody else. Yeah, they're still

523
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,800
playing a very weak, scared game. It's weird. That being said,

524
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,119
I don't know if I agree with
you, Tim that she's at the bottom

525
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,719
of the alliance now, because I
think, you know, as long as

526
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,119
michean d'affa power, I think they
will now put her above you know,

527
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,000
Colleen. I think they'll put her
above Berna possibly Corey, so I think

528
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:30,599
she could get but I don't think
Emmanuel will put her above Berna. And

529
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:36,840
I think Emmanuel has more sway with
Jay and Michelle. I agree with that

530
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,480
is true. I mean I think
she's in the bottom half of that alliance

531
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:45,320
for sure. If they end up
in a pinch, she will be one

532
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,239
of the three people going down.
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. It

533
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,400
just does not seem like an advanced
her position much or even kept her safe.

534
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,159
Like I just don't know what well. I don't say that she did

535
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:58,920
this for self preservation, and I
don't understand how she thinks that this is

536
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,519
self preservation, that you you're not
doing this for self preservation, you are

537
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:06,639
doing this for Jay and Michelle's game. I think she was scared and saw

538
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,199
a way to be safe and she
took it. And it's not in deeper

539
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:13,239
than that. But that's also why
I didn't like this move. Yeah,

540
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,800
I think the self preservations. They
just went to her and said it's gonna

541
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,519
be the two guys in you unless
you join us, and I mean,

542
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:23,960
yeah, yeah, it's just goose
Force brings up, how the fuck is

543
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,599
Corey still safe? Right? Yeah, he seems to be like just forgotten

544
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:34,360
somewhere. I don't know how they
I don't have the rest of the pick

545
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,719
list down, but it basically ended
up like Berna, Colleen and then Corey.

546
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:46,599
And that's when Jay gets really pissed
because Corey is the last one to

547
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:53,159
get picked and Jason Nourice is left
in the bottom three with Haracio and Kyland,

548
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:59,119
and Jay's just flipping out because he's
like, well, Nourice wasn't supposed

549
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,760
to be there. She was supposed
to be picked by Corey, and everybody's

550
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,880
looking at him like okay, but
Corey was the last one to be picked,

551
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,119
so who was supposed to pick Corey
and he just kind of pulls the

552
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:12,320
well, I don't know. I
mean that was for you guys to figure

553
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,679
out, But this wasn't it supposed
to be? How how it win?

554
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,119
Like, she's not supposed to be
in the bottom. I just don't understand

555
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,480
how Colleen is falling in line right. All these like six or seven weeks

556
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:30,079
saved Nurie or Harashio or Kylin.
She could have picked one of them.

557
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:34,519
Yeah, And there have been multiple
weeks where she pulls out the like I'm

558
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,639
the Mole type of ship from her
old show, and none of it has

559
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:44,039
come to any fruition. She's done
nothing, nothing. Yeah, yeah,

560
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:49,000
yeah, I know, Corey.
Corey did post on social media. And

561
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,960
as soon as they got to this
stage of the game where they were doing

562
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,840
the picks, him, Colleen and
Berna like that first day got together made

563
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,960
like a Final three alliance to always
pick each other. I mean, I'm

564
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:07,039
not surprised by that because they're they're
all shitty at this game. Yeah,

565
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:08,239
and they realized, you know,
he said, we realized that we were

566
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,880
at the bottom of Jane Michelle's alliance, So like we're gonna stick together and

567
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,480
when push comes to shave, will
be the three of us against them.

568
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:22,480
Yeah. I wonder how well that
that alliance would stay together, though,

569
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:27,400
because Emmanuel is with Jay and Michelle, and I think Berna is more with

570
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,280
a Manuel than she would be with
Corey and Colleen. True, I think

571
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,719
if she's in a position where she
had to like be the final pick,

572
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:42,239
I think should pick a Manuel over
those guys. Yeah, Joker says,

573
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,280
I don't get how I'm the only
one that saw how shady this chick is

574
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:52,159
last season and people are still shocked
she's this shady Olivia. I think you're

575
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:58,920
talking about Colleen. Maybe what are
you talking about? Olivia? But what

576
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,639
did you see last season? And
joke and they made you think she's shady?

577
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:06,920
That's not oh Olivia. Yeah,
Yeah, I'm not sure she's shady.

578
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,719
I think she's stupid. I think
she's not playing the smart She's not

579
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,559
playing a smart game at all.
But this is just this was so bizarre.

580
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:22,000
It would have been so easy to
flip that house upside down. Yeah

581
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,639
and so, and she would have. And if she had done that,

582
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:30,079
if she had taken third Lee,
she obviously had at least a half an

583
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:35,360
hour between the conversation that she had
with Jay and Michelle to when she had

584
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,800
to pick a name, if she
had thought about it in that half an

585
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:43,320
hour's time, Like if I if
I go against them, Yeah, it'll

586
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,880
be pain in the moment, But
if I go against them, then I

587
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,519
could keep myself and my three people
safe, and then we could potentially get

588
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,880
another person and then three people get
Like you could play through the scenario in

589
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:59,280
your head and know that at least
one other person is going home. Just

590
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,159
battles me. Yeah, at minimum, at minimum you do you just do

591
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,320
the thing for the game that's going
to make the game interesting and the fans

592
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,519
excited, you know what I mean? Like even you've even missed that Olivia,

593
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,480
Like, I don't know, I
don't get it. I think the

594
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,159
only only way I would defend this
with Olivia if she feels like she's high

595
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,880
enough on the pecking or that she
can like just coast her way down to

596
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,159
the final. I do think this
is an easier final road than going against

597
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:30,880
Kylon and Herrassio in the final.
I mean, agreed, but she has

598
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:37,800
Michelle, j Emmanuel, Mariah are
all above her, and usually the like

599
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:44,760
the finals are you know, four
people. Yeah. So, and I

600
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,519
think, no offense to Olivia.
There's no chance she's going to be the

601
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:51,599
sole winner no matter what. Right, I mean, she's got to be

602
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:55,039
one of the at least performing people
in the house right now. Yeah,

603
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,559
I do that with I think Jay
would have a manual love her. I

604
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:02,880
think if like Michelle won a daily
challenge and had the power, I think

605
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,559
Michelle would prioritize her over Emmanuel.
Yeah. I think my larger point is

606
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,800
that if if I'm Olivia, I'm
thinking I'm not winning this final, so

607
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,599
I might as well just have fun
and make good TV and get a callback,

608
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,800
you know what I mean, and
just be chaotic and random and just

609
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,840
do whatever. But we we are
also watchers of this show and have seen

610
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,960
it for many years and could approach
it that way knowing that none of us

611
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,800
are going to win. Yeah,
and I don't feel like any of these

612
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,760
challengers approach it that way. Olivia. Olivia thinks she's gonna win here chance.

613
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:38,039
Maybe I have i'd all these fuckers. I'm sorry, You're right,

614
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:43,960
We'll for you would totally win totally. Maybe maybe I feel like I have

615
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,280
too much faith in Olivia. Emmanuel
scares me. I feel like if you

616
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,639
could get Emmanuel out, I think
she has an equal shot to win against

617
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,199
Michelle or Ja or any of them. Really Like, I, yeah,

618
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:59,199
they don't scare me in a final
like, I don't think they'll be horrible,

619
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:04,559
but think they're going to be like
light years above her. I don't

620
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,559
think she has a chance against the
two of them. I don't know.

621
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,320
I think Emmanuel is one of the
stronger people, if not the strongest person

622
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,199
in this house right now. I
agree, But he's playing a real quiet

623
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:17,360
game, Like I said last week
the week before, he's playing a CT

624
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:22,000
style game, sitting in the back, being real quiet and just kind of

625
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:25,760
letting things happen. I think with
the three guys we lost this episode,

626
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,679
I think Emmanuel might be the best
you know and biggest threat left. Yeah.

627
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:36,199
True, So Joker says during the
reunion, the way she just flipped

628
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,119
on Nelson and disregarded him with no
remorse showed she put herself first and fuck

629
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:45,719
everyone else. And watch the reunion
this season, she will start by trying

630
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,719
to sound contrite and apologetic, but
I'll fall on deaf ears. After that,

631
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,440
she will double down on what she
did, and even more people are

632
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,119
going. All right, somebody saved
that comment. Will have to rehash that

633
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,760
one after the reunions. See how
accurate joker? Yeah, hey, joker,

634
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,559
and this is sidebar real quick,
Joker. I want you to take

635
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,119
that second comment that you made,
the that starts with the and watch and

636
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:14,360
apply that to Tom Sandival because that's
exactly what he did anyway. Sorry,

637
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:21,800
h vander Pump. So ultimately,
the bottom three that are going in are

638
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:27,360
Horasio, Kyland, and Maurice,
and Maurice is real pissed, so she

639
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:34,000
lets loose on Olivia and TJ's up. They kind of like, okay,

640
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,920
well you guys go back to the
house and go get ready, and Kylon

641
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,199
goes, well, you don't have
to get ready, stay ready and pulls

642
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:46,719
off his shirt and he's got his
challenge shirt underneath. I like, I

643
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,199
like Kylin now, but that was
well, I mean, that's a that's

644
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,000
an old school challenge move. That
was what's her face from many many many

645
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:59,519
years ago? She did that.
She was on one of the All Stars.

646
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:04,760
I can't remember her name, Ianna. I slept in my uniform last

647
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,760
night, Yes, I slept in
my uniform last night. She did the

648
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,000
same ship and that's a Durell phrase
that Kylon used. I don't get ready,

649
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:13,920
I don't get ready, I stay
ready. Oh I don't know.

650
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:22,199
I think that whos Salad did I
because she wanted to feel rich? Whose

651
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:30,039
was was it? Jody's? Isn't
it Jody's? Oh man, you won't

652
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:32,559
feel will get to get this one. But yeah, it just made me

653
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:39,000
think of Mojo Rawley when he said
that Joe don't bring up Mojo Raleigh in

654
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:47,360
this Carlin. Who's Who's Mojo Raleigh? No idea, he's Rob gron friend.

655
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:53,039
He was. He was a former
football and his catchphrase was I don't

656
00:47:53,079 --> 00:48:00,000
get hyped, I stay hyped.
M gotcha. I know Mojo Jojo anybody

657
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:06,519
Mojo Jojo? I did know Mojo
jo Jo jojo Jo. It's a different

658
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:15,719
Judjo Jojo power. Yes, all
right, So we go back to the

659
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,320
house. Rossio is breaking up.
We finally see some emotion from Rassio.

660
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:30,840
He is breaking down to Maurice,
which I honestly don't really care. I

661
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:37,679
thought it was funny. Yeah I
did too. And then so so I

662
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:44,760
just got a message from Joker my
private private Facebook. Oh mind, and

663
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:51,000
he said, he said, uh, check the date on this wolf Man

664
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,559
and then posted a screenshot of a
comment that he made of March of last

665
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:04,920
year. So I assume when her
last season was on, and he says,

666
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:08,320
calling my shot with Olivia, I
think she's the next toy. After

667
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:14,119
an excellent rookie campaign, she will
underperform for the next several seasons and be

668
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,480
known more for drama than her actual
performance. I also predict it by her

669
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:22,119
second third season, she will have
lost near fifty percent of the fans that

670
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,760
are currently supporting her. I believe
she could win a season way down the

671
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,480
road, but she will need a
lot out. Wow, Joker, right,

672
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,800
I'm impressed, Joker, well done. You can read people. Okay,

673
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,840
he's got a gift. Umm,
Joker used that skill for good,

674
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:45,440
not evil, that's all. So, as Horassio is breaking down Tonarise,

675
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,760
Jay knocks on the door and pops
his head in, says, can I

676
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,559
talk to you for a minute.
I'm not talking to anybody. Yeah,

677
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:55,840
And he comes in with his notebook
and is like, look, and he's

678
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,679
pulling out all these lists of people. See every list that I you were

679
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,280
always supposed to be higher up.
You're never supposed to be in this position,

680
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,159
and She's like, I like,
dude, I don't fucking care.

681
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,920
I'm in this position now. Obviously
didn't help. Yeah, and I do

682
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:15,039
think that that might be the saving
grace for you know, Anaris or even

683
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:16,800
in an Olivia at this point is
we're talking about how, you know,

684
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,199
those three h Berna, Cory,
and Colleen have an alliance as I could

685
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:27,199
see this kind of being that tipping
point where now Jay and Michelle realized,

686
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,559
like our own soldiers are not following
orders anymore, and it becomes a warmed

687
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:36,679
between the two members or the two
sides of that group, Lene, Olivia

688
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:39,079
and Reice just slide by to the
final. Yeah, it does seem in

689
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:45,079
more like in more traditional seasons when
we have vets on the cast. By

690
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:46,480
this point in the game, we've
dropped the alliances, like they kind of

691
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:50,800
realize we've got three challenges left to
the final. It's just sort of every

692
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,119
man for himself, it is it
just because everybody's such a fucking amateur that

693
00:50:54,119 --> 00:51:00,920
we're still sticking to these sides and
teams and alliances. I think so I

694
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,199
think Jay is holding on because he's
scared because without his alliance, he Yeah,

695
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,360
people aren't really scared of him personally. I don't think the other men

696
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,000
like Corey and who are some of
the other men against Jay? Jay's not

697
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:16,840
looking all that impressive, you know. Yeah, h yeah. We get

698
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,599
a quick shot of him back in
his room just bawling his eyes out,

699
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,119
which I'm confused by it because he's
part of the reason why Narice is in

700
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:31,239
this position. So yeah, I
think he just knows his like it's coming

701
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,639
for him now, like all this
stuff that he's you know, he can't

702
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,119
hold it together. He can't.
Yeah, he can't keep all the mad.

703
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:45,559
Then don't we get our battle royale
between Olivia and Nourice. I guess

704
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:46,639
it wasn't really the baddle. It
was kind of a precursor. I think

705
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:52,440
we're gonna get it next next episode. But Olivia sits down to talk with

706
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:58,159
Nourice, and Nourice drops the bomb
that her brother told her a few weeks

707
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:02,320
ago when she talked to him that
she shouldn't trust her trust Olivia because Olivia

708
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,880
was talking shit and I was gonna
backstab her. And Olivia just kind of

709
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,719
has this like epiphany of weight,
You've just been waiting for me to do

710
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:21,880
this to you. Yeah. Yeah, she has been professional. You're confessional

711
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:29,559
that she's just been waiting for me
to fail her. Yeah. I understand

712
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:34,000
those feelings. Whether I believe Olivia
is actually upset about it or not the

713
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,039
story, but I've talked with my
therapist multiple times about that. I just

714
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:44,440
don't like disappointing people or letting people
down, and just that actual feeling that

715
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:46,519
she brought up. I was like, yeah, it's not good. I

716
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:51,400
don't know if you're feeling that,
but it's one of those things that I

717
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,000
don't know that she was. I
don't know that it's necessarily a disappointment.

718
00:52:54,039 --> 00:53:05,159
It's more of a you have backstabbed
me hard four ye so yeah, which,

719
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:16,079
oh well, us we're on to
elimination. It looks like the same

720
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:22,199
setup as last week, but TJ
drops the bomb of this week, two

721
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,719
players are going home rather than coming
back to the house. I like that.

722
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:32,639
I did too. Yeah, but
the players are not happy. No.

723
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:37,880
Well, and it also takes away
that the shenanigans that Harassio and Kyla

724
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,679
did last time, where they were
working together to gang up. This is

725
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,760
purely like best I was gonna say
best man wins, best person wins,

726
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,920
yeah, which I like. Yep, So again. This elimination is kind

727
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,559
of set up like last week.
They have three obstacle course paths with puzzles

728
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:59,679
at the end, slightly different obstacles, slightly different puzzles, and the first

729
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:04,440
one to finish all three puzzles is
the winner. The first one is a

730
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,400
tanagram. First tanagram we've seen no
while. But before that, they have

731
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,800
to do those like hoppy jumpy things
over those big block things that are like

732
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:15,400
five feet tall, and Kylon and
Harassio just jumped on them, like from

733
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,840
the ground up. Like that's fucking
unreal to me that they could both do

734
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,280
that, That's incredible. And then
like twelve times in a row they did

735
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,639
this shit. Yeah, and not
only that, you've seen nuricese come out.

736
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:32,599
Maurice was like crawling on top of
them and the guys are like leap

737
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:36,920
froggering over them. It was unbelievable. By the time they get to the

738
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,920
first station, Maurice's minutes behind.
Yeah, I mean it's it's not close.

739
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:44,400
And I just thought, well,
buy Maurice, like, oh so

740
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,199
did I I thought that was an
immediate like she's done. Yeah, it

741
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:52,119
didn't happen. Yeah, So the
first puzzle is a tanagram. Both of

742
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:57,960
the guys go to the tanagram first
and they get stuck. Yeah, so

743
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:02,800
embarrassingly long amount it time. While
they're stuck on the tanagram, uh Nouris

744
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,679
goes to the second puzzle, which
is she has to put you to put

745
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:12,519
together a bunch of chains in pairs
so that every single chain ends up at

746
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:15,800
thirty nine links. I think they're
like ten or eleven different sets of chains

747
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,960
she has to put together. She
runs through that relatively quickly, calls check,

748
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,800
sends her on. She then runs
and she does the tanagram, and

749
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:31,239
as she's going to the tanagram,
Haracio goes, I can't figure this out.

750
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,360
I'm gonna call it, and I'm
gonna take a chance and go get

751
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,280
the other two done first and come
back to this. Smart, right,

752
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,840
I mean, what else are you
supposed to do if you'r Horassio? Yeah?

753
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,599
I mean, ultimately it was a
smart choice for him because he did

754
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:51,840
finish the other two and still have
time theoretically to do that one. Yeah.

755
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,000
I think for him it doesn't it
didn't feel like that big of a

756
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:57,760
risk. He's being beaten, like
he's got and he's gonna go home.

757
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,320
He's got to do something different.
I think think Kylon should have left too.

758
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:07,679
Frankly, Yeah, so Kylon stays
there and he's struggle in. Maurice

759
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:09,480
gets to the tannagram and just kind
of looks at it, and it's like

760
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:14,440
within seconds she pulls in a nissa
and just puts it all together and say

761
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,719
okay, check and runs off.
Yeah that was pretty cool. Yeah,

762
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:24,159
I was happy to see that.
She she's just straight up smoked these.

763
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,800
Yeah, it was impressed. Ye, yes, it was. Even TJ

764
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:35,079
thought so TJ was into this.
Yeah. Well and maybe they just didn't

765
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:37,840
show it. But to me,
it looked like she finished her puzzle and

766
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,639
this ran away immediately, which made
me go, why didn't Kyland run over

767
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:45,960
and look at her answer? I
think she didn't, did she? Okay,

768
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,440
I didn't hear her do that.
Like we definitely see like when Horatio

769
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:52,719
gets it later, he like wipes
it clean afterwards. That looked like she

770
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,360
just left it. But maybe I'm
wrong. I feel like, I mean,

771
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,239
even if she did leave it,
I feel like Kyland is not the

772
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,599
type to go and do that.
I agree with you, but it's domb

773
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,719
he should have Yeah, I mean, there's it's definitely something that gets done

774
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,000
in every challenge ever. But I
feel like he's not one to do I

775
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:15,519
feel like he feels like he is
too much integrated to do that. And

776
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:20,920
the third game is they have to
stack three sets of blocks on top of

777
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,719
each other and then pull a rope
on top of each other on top of

778
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:27,159
a platform, and then pull a
rope to lift the platform to a certain

779
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,440
height without all of the blocks falling. This is like two different Survivor things

780
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,559
put together. It is OK.
So I was talking earlier about how I

781
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:37,639
thought I got spoiled for this season. This was the point in time where

782
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:40,639
I basically was like, oh,
I don't have take notes anymore. Obviously,

783
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:45,800
Nurice gets stuck on this. Kylon
finishes his tanagram, he runs through

784
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,159
the other two, and she's still
stuck on trying to pick, trying to

785
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,079
get this to go up. When
these things keep falling over and he's gonna

786
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:54,400
win, I was like, oh, I didn't have to pay attention anymore.

787
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,639
And the wrong and she it's just
this and grabs her flag and runs

788
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:06,880
and wait, wait a second,
what this is? This is not how

789
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,159
this supposed to end. Yeah,
every every leg surprised me. I just

790
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:16,119
kept waiting for Nurse to fail,
and yeah, she rocked it. Because

791
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:22,119
we've definitely seen it in previous seasons
where someone has like they've been way ahead,

792
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,679
way ahead, way ahead, and
then for something as simple as just

793
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:30,119
trying to get a stack of blocks
to not fall over when they're picking them

794
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:35,400
up has completely ruined their lead.
We've seen that happen. Well, this

795
00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:38,800
we saw two people get dekeyed on
basically a tanagram. You know, Kylin

796
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,199
and Harassio have been kind of crushing
it this season, and they were took

797
00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:46,880
out by that stupid puzzle. I
love tanagrams. I'm pretty good at tannagrams.

798
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:57,719
There are some of my favorite puzzles. Yeahines, thanks Derell. Uh.

799
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,719
Yeah. Ultimately, Naris ens up
winning the whole thing and sends Kyland

800
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:09,039
and Hirasio home. You could tell
TJ was ecstatic at this, cheering so

801
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:15,440
Stove cheering her on the whole time, laughing. Yes, TJ was loving

802
00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:21,480
this, loving it. I mean, it's it was a bummer to see

803
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,519
Kyland and Harassio go home, because
it's been fun. I mean, I

804
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:30,519
guess it's been more fun to watch
them go against the main alliance of the

805
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:35,440
house yeah, but it was.
It was really nice to see Nourice just

806
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:40,440
house this elimination. Yeah, it's
a bummer they're going because now the main

807
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:45,880
alliance is just they're just gonna run
the whole thing, which is very boring.

808
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:52,320
Yes, but I know some people
don't like watching the previous but this

809
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:58,119
isn't a big of a deal.
But I mean, Nourice literally shows back

810
00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:00,599
up and she's like, I'm going
to elimin all of you. I think

811
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:02,679
that was actually the end of the
episode, wasn't it. We saw the

812
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:07,320
recent so the very end of the
episode, we see her walking towards the

813
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:12,920
house and everybody's you hear a bunch
of people what no, no way,

814
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:15,159
and then it cuts to black.
Okay, but I didn't I didn't see

815
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:20,639
the preview for next episode, so
that's good to know. She comes back

816
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:23,760
in the house, she still got
her uniform on. Everybody's around her and

817
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,280
she just looks at all of them
and she's like, I'm going to send

818
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,480
all of you home, and Olivia
like, of course, is bawling in

819
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:37,559
terms and walks away from the group
or whatever. But just yeah, so

820
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,800
I'm excited for next week. Yeah, first time i've been excited for the

821
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,519
next episode. It'll probably it up
just being a huge letdown. We'll see.

822
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:49,679
I'm gonna say, hopefully something comes
event it's not just her coming in

823
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,960
last place again, throwing an elimination
going home. Yeah, I'm struggling because

824
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,360
I'm still struggling to find somebody to
root for. I was rooting for Ed,

825
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:00,199
and so Ed went home. It's
like, all right, that's all

826
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:02,119
right, because I like Kyland all
of a sudden this episode, and now

827
01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:05,159
I'm ritten for Kyland and then Guy
goes. It's like, well, fuck,

828
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:07,119
now I'm back to like I hate
all these people. I don't want

829
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,880
anybody to win. Yeah, I
mean, I'm I'm living side right now

830
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,559
because she's she's gonna send everybody home. Yeah, yeah, because you you

831
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:21,159
all know how much I love it
when chaos gets injected into the house and

832
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:27,599
it looks like she's gonna try to
do that next episode successful or not.

833
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,960
We we uh saw they have moved
past that. We're on conquest now,

834
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:43,079
you're so funny, Zach. Chris
wants to know, do we think Nurise

835
01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:45,719
is now higher in the food chain
because she has no one else. I

836
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:51,679
think it's the opposite her threatening to
send everybody home is gonna make her target.

837
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:54,920
Yeah. I feel like Jay is
still going to try and pretend like

838
01:01:55,039 --> 01:02:00,760
he has her back. But that's
just because they're friends on the outside world,

839
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:09,039
right, Yeah, Jace full of
shit. See Hey, everybody head

840
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:15,360
over to challenge pod dot com.
Join the Facebook group. Uh, you

841
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,280
can also draw a Patreon. My
brain literally stop working. That's my whole

842
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,840
life. Sure you can also draw
a Patreon, tim what do people get

843
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,960
when they join? All right?
We have one tier. It's five bucks

844
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,519
a month, and with that one
tier you get years and years with a

845
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,920
bonus content pre shows, after shows, all sorts of fun stuff. Actually,

846
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,360
the Discord. I always forget to
plug the discord, but the discord

847
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,480
is kind of fun if we ever
use it, which we barely do,

848
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,280
but you can at least message us, and we also say her name.

849
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,639
So thank you to Elena, Alvin, Anda, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy,

850
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:49,039
Emily, Greg, Jamie, Jenny
Joker, Julie, Caitlin, Laura

851
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:53,480
Martes, Maverick, aforementioned Maverick,
Patty, Roldan, Ryan, Samuel Sarah,

852
01:02:53,559 --> 01:03:00,079
Sarah, Scott, Seth Shaq Stan
and Yoli sixty eight yy. Yeah,

853
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:06,159
thanks all yeah, thanks, so
thank you. Chris says I think

854
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:10,679
they will be higher on Nuris than
Mariah because she is a backup. Well,

855
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,519
we're gonna see,'m me see
how it goes. We sure do.

856
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:22,960
I hope you guys are ready to
be so disappointed? Uh, I

857
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,800
mean you did. You did ask
last week for people to come in and

858
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,800
just like lambath carln So right.
Well, I'm excited, but you guys

859
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,880
should not be. This one is
from so Cow Librarian, who gives us

860
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,559
a five star review, says,
am, I glad I found this podcast.

861
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:40,280
Yes, i am. I've been
a fan of the challenge from the

862
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,599
beginning. I just discovered this podcast
and it's great. I needed to hear

863
01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:46,440
someone else who hates the current season
as much as I do. Well we

864
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:52,639
delivered. Keep up the great work. I fucking love you, Tim,

865
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,000
Carlyn, yep, Carlyn and Wolfe
you're cool too. Uh sorry Zach,

866
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:03,280
but I could do without the banana
lover Zach. Sorry. Hashtag team Sarah

867
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:08,199
forever. I'm catching up on old
seasons and your takes on vendettas are hilarious.

868
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,760
Nicolsy asking and answering her own questions
and the BRIT's formal phony, funny

869
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,559
ways of asking for sex. I
am dying. I forgot about those.

870
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,559
Yeah, even if future seasons continue
on a download spiral, you need to

871
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:25,840
do this podcast so we can commiserate
hating on it together. Never changed.

872
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,960
Tim hashtag timperm number, timperm I
do and Wolfe perm I ended up I

873
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:35,320
ended up betting that battle. By
the way, but who was that from

874
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:41,920
again? Uh so, cal Library, Calbrary, just a warning, so,

875
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:45,599
cal Librarian. Today's social media is
extremely bananas heavy. I think there's

876
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:48,880
only one thing non bananas, so, uh my, wat skip it this

877
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:57,000
week? Lovely? What was the
say that we did for the British people?

878
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,639
It was Melissa? Melissa had one
we had We had Kyle talking to

879
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:08,599
Kara. He was super super formal. There were there were a few we

880
01:05:08,679 --> 01:05:12,440
used to be funnier on this podcast, didn't we was it? Blissa was

881
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:19,840
like, well you pleasure that's right, Yes, that's right. That's that's

882
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,920
why I love Melissa so much.
I'm trying to remember. Yeah, and

883
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,719
I want to say that Kyle,
while he and Carl were sitting at a

884
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,960
bar, They're sitting at barstools,
and I want to say that he said

885
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,119
something along the lines of, like, so when are we going to have

886
01:05:32,159 --> 01:05:44,039
intercourse? What this is that he's
Zach? Do we have any social media

887
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:48,519
stuff? We jokers just pointing out
we do. So. First off,

888
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:55,519
like I said, very Johnny Bananas
heavy, Johnny Bananas has become a part

889
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,079
owner in the Orange County Soccer Club, So anyone since in California you can

890
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:04,880
go support his team that he now
owns partially. So Bananas is easing out

891
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,280
of the Challenge world. It's getting
old. Bought a gym, bought a

892
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,039
soccer team, yes, and then
also speaking of the gym, that's and

893
01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:16,559
every thing we got is that he
posted on his Facebook that he's pretty much

894
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:21,239
hiring for all positions as Jim.
So if you're living in Florida, go

895
01:06:21,239 --> 01:06:27,239
go work for the man. Yep
tomorrow z that announces I'm moving to Florida.

896
01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:34,960
Guys, enjoy those hurricanes. I
will. And then yeah, and

897
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:40,000
then the only other thing I have
is, uh, did anyone end up

898
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,360
watching the new Challenge home spin off
Home Front? Nope? Okay, I

899
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,599
watched that earlier today with CT.
It is amazing. I recommend it,

900
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:55,679
like Halfway Covered is like life before
the show A lot of it was basically

901
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:59,920
starting from his Real World season then
just kind of like him discussing each like

902
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:01,760
season of the show he did,
you know, he talked a lot about

903
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:09,760
the Banana's backpack, his feud with
Adam, obviously, lots about DM.

904
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,000
But the two big things I got
away from there that I thought were interesting

905
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:19,119
is Uh mentioned that his younger brother
actually went to school with Kara Maria and

906
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:25,679
he's actually known car since long before
the show. Yeah. That, okay,

907
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:28,480
I didn't know that, but I
didn't know that either. I mean,

908
01:07:28,519 --> 01:07:31,400
it makes a lot more sense as
to why she was always so like,

909
01:07:32,119 --> 01:07:34,639
you know, CT and me,
we're gonna like it's not just Boston

910
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:40,360
strong like it. Their bond makes
a lot more sense now. Yeah.

911
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,760
And then I also feel like I
might have had this before and forgot.

912
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,719
But he talked about DM and how
you know, at the end of her

913
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,800
life, when she was having to
take a lot of shots in medicine,

914
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,679
she hated needles, you know,
couldn't take her mess in that. Well,

915
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:56,280
so Banana's actually like moved in a
couple of houses down from her and

916
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,519
would go there every day and give
her her mess and give her shots and

917
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:04,719
like her until her passing. Yeah, he's like that's He's like, so

918
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,400
that that's why him and Bananas now
are so cool, apparently on the show

919
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,639
is because Banana's like relocated temporarily to
be there to like take care of Dim

920
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:16,800
at the end of her life.
Did he relocate specifically for that or he

921
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,359
just happened to be living in that
area? So so it sounds like he

922
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,319
and Dim had a mutual friend that
lived a couple of houses down from DM,

923
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:28,239
so he moved in with the mutual
friend so that way he could be

924
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:35,039
there and take care of Dim.
Don't say nice things about him, Yeah,

925
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,479
I mean if that's if that's all
truly the way it went down,

926
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,359
then good on him. But I
feel like that maybe skewed in his favor.

927
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,359
Carlin has doubts. Yes, okay, well maybe maybe he made Bananas

928
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:57,199
hired CT to like give him good
press. Yeah that's it. But yeah,

929
01:08:57,239 --> 01:08:59,800
no, it was really good.
I highly recommend you guys check it

930
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,960
out next week, is Carl Maria. So I don't love that that they're

931
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,600
doing Boston back to back weeks,
Like we just saw a bunch of Boston

932
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,239
where CT lives, and if him
and Car's you know, if his brother

933
01:09:11,239 --> 01:09:14,640
and Carr went to school together,
I'm guessing she's from the same basic area,

934
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,359
Like, we don't need to see
that area two weeks in a row.

935
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,439
Do you think they'll go someplace She's
like, this is where I went

936
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,600
to blah blah blah, and then
in the background across the street, you'll

937
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:30,880
see a camera film in the same
locations. It's very possible we might.

938
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,319
Goose Force wants to know if they'll
show some of the weird orgy stuff that

939
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:44,479
they do. What caah, yeah, Brittany, Yeah, you'll see Turbo

940
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:51,640
and Brittany in the background going at
it. And Scott pointed out that Zach

941
01:09:51,720 --> 01:10:00,399
told Polly he couldn't unfunck his girlfriend. That's what I liked, Polly because

942
01:10:00,399 --> 01:10:06,920
he was driving Zach and say and
yeah, that's what we have for social

943
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,880
media. Goose Or says, you
guys should go to one of their Mexican

944
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:17,800
retreats for content. No, oh, Carlin seem interested. No, i'd

945
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,720
go to Mexico. I don't want
to go to one of the retreats.

946
01:10:20,119 --> 01:10:25,880
Then I know. Olivia did a
did her podcast today talking about everything that

947
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,600
went down on this sty but I've
not had a chance to listen that yet.

948
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,000
Olivia has a podcast. She does
her and of her friends do a

949
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:36,600
weekly podcast. But it sucks.
It's definitely not as good as ours.

950
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,520
It's probably a bunch of person like
explaining why this was a why she made

951
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,159
that choice, and that it's not
a big deal that that does seem like

952
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:49,039
what this week's episode about. As
you know, why she did it?

953
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:54,239
Are they friends now? Like you
know that she regretted and why or why

954
01:10:54,279 --> 01:11:02,159
not? What's that dumpster fire called? Zach Scott wants to know? Uh,

955
01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:04,520
you know what? I don't let
me look it up real quick.

956
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:11,920
It's on her insta. I would
call it. Oh no, Olivia,

957
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,359
Well, if she's doing it with
a partner, then you can still be

958
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:26,279
a partner, right, it's called
give me that mic Mine's better blasted in

959
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:35,720
the forecast, so many meetings,
All right, we'll good times. Go

960
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,239
listen to another podcast, I guess, or don't don't, Oh no,

961
01:11:40,319 --> 01:11:46,479
Olivia and Friends, Yeah, Chris
m all right, Well, I guess

962
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:51,880
that's it for this episode of Challenged, Big Uncle, Sweet Tepe, Carlin

963
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:59,079
San Diego, Zachie Bananas. It
is uh Nurice Will hopefully say next week,

964
01:11:59,319 --> 01:12:11,680
I'm a you all home, Light
this house on fire. The Shalie ship murdering