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The o' Chilei effect is sponsored by
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you, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all media yea. October twenty,

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twenty twenty three. Allegedly, according
to that thing you call a calendar,

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it's the o'cell effect. It's Friday
night, and we got open lines

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and open topics. Now, to
my best efforts, I'm going to try

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and get to everybody as quickly as
possible. I would really love to hear

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from as many different people as possible
about varied topics tonight. Okay, so

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that is what I want to encourage. No dictating what the topic is.

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But I don't want to get stuck
on one thing and answer and call and

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response and no, let's try and
get people through with maybe not the exact

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time limits I initially set out,
but let's try and get through the callers

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quickly, make the conversation more interesting, more brisk, use up five minutes

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your way, which way it has
to go, and that'll be that.

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I'll put you on hold and bring
you back around if you call in three

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one nine, five two seven five
zero one six. Going out of my

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way to say hey on Facebook and
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five zero one six. Now,
if you have to or you're in

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another country, I do see you
on the stream. There's a bunch of

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you. You can call in via
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First make a contact request. If
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know you want to be part of
the show. We're gonna do this for

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two hours. Uh at least I'm
not going four hours like last week because

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my back is thrown out. But
again, this will be created by you,

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the callers, the participants. We
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if you just search for Ocelli dot
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Actually there's several of them on the
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Three one nine five two seven five
zero one six. You can call

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in, listen to the show while
you're waiting and get on in and I

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will take callers in order, and
uh, no restrictions on what you have

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to say. We're not doing AM
and FM. I really don't like the

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whole you know, dropping f bombs. I just don't do it usually,

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and I don't like to encourage it
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But you know what you do you
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one six. That is the number
to call. And we are now less

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than a month away from when B
Pete and I will make our way to

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Dallas. Still got a couple of
possibilities for people. If you are looking

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at your budget and going crap,
I don't know if I can get there

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or if I can stay there.
Hey, look, if you're somebody that

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we kind of know, can kind
of trust, and you want to kind

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of kick in on the uh hotel
room that B Pete and I are going

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to have, it's not going to
just be a regular room. We got

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a suite, so we're we're gonna
sneak a couple guys in down on our

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costs. How about that? Plus
there's some other possibilities for some box lunches

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and this and that, and the
third thing which I'm trying to reserve and

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make sure that we got enough of. And hey, I got merched too.

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Merch that relates to the show books
related to the JFK case, some

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other historical pieces of this and that, and a few people have actually pledged

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to send me some additional books,
which I'll be offering all that stuff as

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thank you presents for people that fund
the trip to Dallas, fund the network,

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et cetera. If you're there,
you're guaranteed to walk away with a

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gift. And that's the way that
is. I got T shirts, hats,

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i got wallets, I've got or
IFID protectors, keychains, all kinds

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of stuff. Some of it might
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but I've also got a couple of
one of a kind items, some JFK

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related stuff which is either one of
a kind or fairly uncommon. Few things

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are going to be there with me. I had a couple of pieces of

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silver I was bringing along, but
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sold it, so now I don't
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to bring with me to the convention, although I am bringing my poker set

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because that won't take up much room
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odd items because I'm planning on hanging
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what's happening between the seventeenth and nineteenth. Although b Pete and I will likely

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arrive in Dallas the night before,
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seriously gonna want to make sure that
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not up to me. I'm not
the driver. And if for some reason

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you think you can get in with
us on the road trip and you're somewhere

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between Georgia and Dallas, let me
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too. I don't know. I
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have to take up less space because
I got a couple of toads full of

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stuff I'm bringing. Anyway, that's
happening. The week that was happened,

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it was a little bit of a
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I had a professor, David Beto
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that president on Wednesday. I had
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we went over quite a few things
JFK related. Now that podcast has not

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been released yet, but I'm getting
to it. I'm just having a hard

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time sitting at the desk, and
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of things because my back is totally
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at the moment. I've actually had
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out a bit while I'm trying to
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to work. She's got a regular
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So fun and fun and all of
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But you can join in and talk
about the news of the day, the

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events of the day, what's going
on in the world, whatever's on your

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mind, open mic, open topics. Three to one nine five two seven,

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five zero one six one more time, because I don't want to keep

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repeating it tonight too much. Three
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one six. Get on the line, and you'll get on the show with

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at least five minutes to speak,
and then we'll bring you back around and

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see we can get you to fifteen
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game. But who else is with
me? My co host b Pete.

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Now that I've talked for a couple
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minutes late, like normal, here
we are it's Friday again. Be Pete

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and I don't know if we're going
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and we're certainly not doing the seventeenth
of November. There may be other

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breaks necessary. We'll just have to
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to the whole why I didn't release
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yet a little later in the show. But I'm already tired of talking and

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need to adjust myself with my painful
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So anyway, as Ppete said,
welcome to adulthood, and I say to

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be Pete, Well, welcome to
the show. How you doing this week?

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Man? Oh, it's been a
hectic week. I'm just trying to

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catch up. I'm not long in
the door from running around and finishing the

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work. But other than that,
looking forward to a good weekend. We

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had a little lane moving through to
night, and then tomorrow it's supposed to

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really be fall sixty degrees sunny.
I'm looking forward to it nice. Nice.

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Of course, if the pressure gets
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that's gonna you know, double down
on my crippling up because it's gonna hurt

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more. But what the hell,
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and the seventeenth. By the way, that is the plan. We're gonna

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leave, like what Tuesday or Wednesday
to get there by Thursday. Right,

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Well, it's only probably I don't
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probably Wednesday. Well I don't know. I'm thinking on Wednesday driving down getting

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you, and then we leave early
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drive. Oh is that all it
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that. No, it's about twelve
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what it is. I think it's
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Plus, first of all, you
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longer to do things. But secondly, I was literally on that bus for

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twenty six hours, you know,
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ever, compare anything to a bus
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live down here in the Kingston area
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a half hours maybe three by car? That little short drive took me almost

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twenty four hours to make because they
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Oh yeah, I mean, look, even in a tiny state like New

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Jersey, right, I used to
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two and a half hour bus ride
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fifteen minutes down the parkway to get
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we're talking only maybe two miles off
of each parkway exit, so at sixty

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miles an hour another five minutes at
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a twenty minute trip if you don't
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we would be there in about seven
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but my bus ride experience would be
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and from bus stops to go to
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doing in Asbury Park when I lived
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want to look it up on a
map, imagine having to take two and

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a half hours to get from one
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you know, not as often as
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well covered in mass transit. But
I learned exactly how much of a luxury

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the Northeast was with mass transit coming
down south here, people look at me

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like I'm crazy if I think a
bus route might be somewhere around, you

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know, like, is there maybe
a bus there. What are you serious?

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This? You know this ain't Atlanta
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Yeah? Buses right? Sure?
And then they also I love the whole

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Well we got handicapped bus things,
and I go, oh good, you

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know what, I'm handicapped. Yeah, they say handicapped, but even though

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they're a government thing and everything else, they don't necessarily mean everybody who's handicapped.

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a bus anyway. Why did I
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is open for interpretation tonight. So
before I even get into any of my

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news stuff that I have in mind, or let be Pete loose, I

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say, we start to get to
some of the callers right away. What

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do you think, be Pete,
sir. Sounds like a plan. Let's

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do it right, because last week
I had one guy that literally waited ninety

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minutes. That's unacceptable, and I
apologize, So let's try and do it

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as quicker. I think I got
one guy already waiting fifteen though, because

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we didn't start right away and he
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check the order on that. But
is there anything else you want to make

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sure you throw in before we get
the callers while I check this will last

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week was that was a different show
than that was what almost four hours?

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Yeah, it's actually yeah, little
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to get to that. What I'm
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been released as a podcast beatos podcast
out. I got Aaron's Show, which

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there was no Uncle this week,
just the age of transitions. Uncle wasn't

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feeling well, nothing major, but
he was just you know, under the

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weather. So didn't do a show. And yeah, I didn't O'Kelly in

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the Greek from Saturday, but also
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except produce Aaron Show and release those
two podcasts. And it took me days

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to get that done because of my
bad back, can't sit in a chair,

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can't stand over the desk, so
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had to find a place to get
comfortable enough and get through it. So

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it looks to me like Harlan was
the first one waiting, and then we

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got Dvance waiting on the line,
and there was another caller who has now

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dropped. So I'm gonna get to
them and just see what's on their mind

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this week, and this is how
the festivities will begin. Also, I'm

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gonna take a couple of breaks and
break things up a little bit, but

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try to keep the breaks short,
try and keep the pattern short here and

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make the conversation a little more brisk. If all of you don't mind,

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And I did read your criticisms,
and I do get it, and I

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really would like to see more callers. So let's see if we can't accomplish

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all of that, and at the
same time, let everybody be heard,

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regardless of what I or anybody else
thinks about what they have to say.

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Okay, so, oh, just
double checking on something. Indeed, Harlan

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is the first one up. So
Harlan, you're on the line and welcome

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to Friday Night once again. What's
on your mind, my friend? Well,

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I just want to say, first
of all, I denounced il antias,

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semitism real or imagine. Oh boy, how's everybody else? Well,

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now that that's out of the way, be Pete. What do you got

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to say? Oh? Man,
really, nothing enough, you know,

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whatever the topic of the day is. But on that topic, wait,

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wait to go, Arley, what
about you? Go? Girl? Listen?

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I also want to say that I'm
absolutely against theft, murder, and

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rape. I stand firmly against any
of these actions, just because you know

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it's time to say things that really
shouldn't have to say if it's already that

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way. I also am not fond
of liars or hypocrites. So there you

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are, and I do not stand
with good So if we're okay, if

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we're all going to announce what we're
against. I am against the process of

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shrink flation. I'm tired of going
to buy a little Debby cake in the

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morning and the price has gone up
considerable in the past couple of years,

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and you end up with nothing.
Don't make it smaller. Charge me what

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you got to charge me for making
it full sized. I don't mind paying.

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I understand prices go up, but
to charge me more and then make

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it smaller, well, that's just
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my friend b Pete on this particular
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all of that and a big So, Harlan, what do you have to

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say to that? Well, I'm
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gonna say how much more is it
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I mean you're looking now at a
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out where I'm at, any worries, T sixty nine one later is usually

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around three twenty nine to three seventy. Can you charge me another colder?

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Just go ahead, and this ase
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hits it laced colder than bast water. That's an interesting thing. Look,

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I haven't started your clock yet,
but I am going to start it after

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I'm done saying this. Took me
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Remember, I'm a little bit,
a little bit brain damaged from having lived

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in New Jersey, so I didn't
understand what the hell you were talking about

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at first. But now I have
reasoned through context that a cold pop is

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what you were saying. And I
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prepackaged soda, or at least that's
what we would call it New Jersey,

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something like that, and with except
for an eye right and coke a pet

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a drink? Right? Yes,
okay, all about one today and get

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back to the trip. I had
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refrigerator. Get it towed down.
Wow, yes, that's I got it.

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I got to jump in with him
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old cabal about replacing glass bottles with
plastic. You can't get those suckers cold

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enough. Even if you put it
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do not get cold enough. That's
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a glass bottle or a can.
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which is an iffy situation anyway,
given the makeup of the of the

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chemicals inside. But from walking to
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that sucker open and you would have
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It was so and this was in
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what you do with those coolers.
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the cold goes outside and you can't
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one of my biggest pet peeves.
I'm gonna buy a cold drink. I

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wanted to be cold, okay,
fair enough, And I'm not going to

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interfere with any of those points.
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And why I'm gonna let somebody else
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or not. Let's see how this
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I got this thing right. Let's
see die first then quit. Okay,

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that's the banner over jesse Ventura stuff. And apparently he just released right as

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I was going to air, according
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the recent politics. So I'll just
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the show and play a little excerpt
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Governor jesse Ventura here for die first. Then you know, I'm sitting

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here watching our government right now,
and I'm watching the nomination of Representative Jim

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Jordan to be Speaker of the House. You gotta be kidding me. This

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guy's neck deep in January sixth.
He doesn't even acknowledge Donald Trump lost the

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election. He's a total Trump puppet. This is so blatantly obvious. What

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is going on here? This is
Donald Trump talked about him becoming the Speaker

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of the House. No, the
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of the House. And therefore Donald
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Representatives because he'll have his puppet Jim
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I don't even think we need the
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though Jesse has probably made his total
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know what it was. I just
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video and figured, let's hear what
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Anyway, that was going on this
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a complete puppet of his gymnasium Jordan
a puppet of Donald Trump's I don't know.

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I think he's an opportunist and he's
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with Donald Trump. That's an interesting
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Jesse venture once highly lauded figure in
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many others who were lauded for one
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you know that you've heard the term
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meaning with great praise. Anyways,
louday loudly. All that being pronounced all

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over the place sounds to me like
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doesn't sound very alternative to me here
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Not saying I disagree with him,
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of parroting coming out of Jesse Ventura. We'll say one thing for him though,

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as I'm looking at the video,
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back and forth a lot more clearly. I do believe he's suffering some sort

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of neurological thing that's been going on
for quite a while. They covered it

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up quite a bit when he was
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assuming it has not improved a lot. They are doing a better job of

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covering it up. So there you
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with him on this. Die first, then quit media element that he is

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producing out there and putting out.
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just for everybody's knowledge, and I'll
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in the Ocelli chatroom at Ocelli dot
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I got here. I have some
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from Newsmandal which I'm going to reference
later when I get into the points of

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the news for the day, and
this and that sorry, it might have

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part of my clickable link from my
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the link. But there it is, and there you go. Up to

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you if you want to listen to
the other minute, but I ain't doing

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it right now. And he also
did not steal a minute from Harlan.

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So, Harlan, you kicked off
the soda debate, and we've all given

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our disclaimers. But anything else on
your mind before we you know, And

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now the clock is ticking, sir, so it's on you for five minutes.

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Go ahead and tie ust known Advance
since he had to wait a loan

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last week. Now I'm come back
to bate. You got it. That's

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exactly what we'll do. So on
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van Erki himself Vance, So glad
to have him along, and let's get

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him on Vance. I don't know
if you want to weigh in on the

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Great Soda Debate, or if you
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the part of the statement I played, or have you've got something totally interesting

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and completely different to offer for tonight's
discussion. But your time is yours,

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sir. When you were talking about
the soda here in Texas, you know,

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where I you know, growing up, it was like it was the

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only place you could ask for a
coke and then they say, what kind

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of coke you want? You know, because that was just the generic term

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for a soda water, you know, a coke. You know, what

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do you want? You know,
coke, doctor pepper. But you know,

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if I wanted theoretically advance just really
quick, theoretically I want a grape

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soda, I can still go in
and ask for a coke and then they

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go, okay, what kind you
want? I go grape And they go,

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all right, they're not going to
bring me a grape coke. They

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might bring me a Welch's grape soda. Is that right? Well, maybe

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I wasn't explaining that. It's not
necessarily everywhere whatever that it happened because soda

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was, you know, soda water. That's what my grandpa is called soda

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water, soda water, you know. And if they bring you a grape,

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it's probably going to be a Fanta
or a knee high. Okay,

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fair enough, don't you want I
want? Why not? Sure? Okay,

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man, it's not stealing your time, go ahead. Yeah, those

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are all good choices too. You
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I think when they had to change
the name because you know, they

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couldn't sell it over there. But
uh, a friend of the family.

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You're on the junk yard at wrecking
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or wherever come in to the counter
and and at some point he said,

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where's your pop? Pop? Right? He said, well, you know,

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he says he's not you know,
he's not here. And he's like,

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no, where's your pop? He
says, I told you my pops

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he's not here. And he says, no. I mean I mean sort

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of you know, you know,
Coca cola whatever, Where where's your pop?

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Somebody might have said, hey,
he died over the winter. Uh

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you know, I mean it could
be because proper good. It's like I

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was like, she said one more
thing about my pop. I was about

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punching, you know, because it
was like he was confused about what the

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hell was he talking about, and
he's, oh shit, it's a machine

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outside, you know whatever. But
but yeah, those colloquialisms are are kind

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of you know, tricky to do
it with. Sometimes, Yeah, no,

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up north, you might get how's
Joe doing? Joe Joe Who Joe,

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Mama, I didn't, you know, I mean, it just could

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be. You never know what you're
gonna get from. Uh, you know,

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one of the Yankees shows up down
there. Right. Texas though,

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is its own thing, man.
I mean to me, it seems like

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culturally and mentally it's you know,
it's part of the South, but it's

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simultaneously not part of the South,
which is weird like. And I think

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it dates back to the fact that
at one point, you know, the

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reason why there's one star on the
flag is that it was its own republic,

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right, I mean, it was
the Republic of Texas. And there

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are some people that there's still a
movement even today to try and return it

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to just being the Republic of Texas. I don't know how why that would

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be at this point in time,
but I know that that's a real thing

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in the in the mentality of some
people that consider themselves Texas, right.

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Yeah, I wish they I wish
that we could make that happen. I

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think I think we're all the states
should just declare independence and just become our

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own nations again. And and you
know, bypass all this, you know,

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world government, you know, dystopian
bullshit that's been going on. See.

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I mean, yeah, I don't
think it could be any worse,

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you know, I mean Texas already
has the sands. Would be like,

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you know, one of the largest
economies is based on its GDP, you

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know, you know, compared to
other countries, and you know, we

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got a port. You know,
this is the third Coast, and you

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know, we got access to you
know, everything we need. We got

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oil, we got water, we
got land, we got beef, we

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got you know. It's like,
you know, I'd be awful with that.

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Yeah. No, there's a bunch
of people that would be It's it's

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funny though, because it's almost like, you know, okay, yeah,

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you're all for it, But where
would that leave some of those people?

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You know, where would that leave
those people that are relying on certain things.

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I think that some of them don't
realize how much of the comfort that

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they've come to expect, like oh
that goes along with this. It would

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be very weird. But anyway,
I didn't mean to get into that conversation.

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I was just you know, it
was a throwaway thing. But back,

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well, back to where you're at. Ye, I got another minute

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or what oh no, you got
time. I interrupted you, so you

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got you got plenty of time.
Still, It's just that I was just

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bringing it up, like I wasn't
trying to start the whole uh, you

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know, secession discussion. But you
hear it in different places. Texas has

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a significant and consistent one though.
That's all. But yeah, it's really

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interesting when you get into it,
and then some people don't realize, Oh,

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well that means I would lose some
other stuff. Yeah, you might.

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Would it be better some people?
Yeah? It would it be worse

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for others. Yeah, it's a
whole whole thing. Would be worth devoting,

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would be worth the voting a show
to it one night, I think

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too. Anyway, vance enough of
me taking up your time, Go right

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back to it whatever else was on
your mind, because I'm sure the junk

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yard Innesota wasn't all you had in
your in your thoughts, right well,

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I mean I didn't really have anything
specific, but we got into that topic

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and that kind of relates to,
you know, the old dynamic. You

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know, how do we get out
of this situation that we found ourselves in

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right now, which is you know, you know, way over the cliff

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at this point, and you know
that that you know, maybe that's a

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conversation that needs to be you know
more seriously, you know, uh,

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you know considered. And and you
know, once when domino falls, the

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other domino falls, and and you
know, there's a big secession movement in

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New Hampshire. I mean, is
it New Hampshire. Well, New Hampshire

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has one. I think Vermont actually
has one, which is weird, and

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a bunch of the southern states,
the Porcupine State. I think that's New

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Hampshire is like a real little state, right because it's only about twenty million

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people or you know less. It's
like that's why they're focusing it there,

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because you know, it's a lot
easier to get you know, a small

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group of people that are kind of
already independent minded and know that. Yeah.

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In addition, you've got what the
eastern half of Oregon wants to join

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Idaho. Really yeah, yeah,
as serious talk about it there, they

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want to they want to let the
coast live by themselves and join Idaho and

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form another state or become a part
of Idaho. Wow. The Convention of

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States is something you haven't heard much
about. Is is the Convention of States

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where a lot of this stuff,
would you know, bubble to the surface

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on states rights and states trying to
protect their interest at all sides. You

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know, you might start hearing about
that next year or so. I know

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it's trying to pick up steam.
Well, I'm looking at this. I

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mean, there's a Porcupine Mountains area
in Michigan. There's I'm looking for something

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that would be referred to as the
Porcupine State. And I really don't see

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00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.599
it, but I was trying to
find it. It's New Hampshire. Is

408
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:22.680
in New Hampshire. Oh, it's
New Hampshire. Yeah, that's part of

409
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:29.839
the slogan for the secession movement is
a porcupine, you know, for the

410
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.839
quills. And I would assume they
have porcupines. You know a lot of

411
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.799
there have a few of them here
in Texas, but you know, you

412
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.759
very rarely ever see one here but
up north and Colorado and im good places.

413
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.000
I know they got porcupines. Well, they apparently have the porcupine.

414
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.160
Yeah. They have the Porcupine Freedom
Festival in New Hampshire, apparently, which

415
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.960
is pork Fest, No kidding,
prc Fest looks like to me. So

416
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:59.559
the Porcupine Freedom Festival started in June
of two thousand and four. Looks like,

417
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.720
so there's that. Oh yeah,
you've got Porcupine Falls, which is

418
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:08.079
a big park up there. There
a lot of porcupines in New Hampshire.

419
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:15.839
Apparently they like to hang out in
the forest land and hemlock grows close to

420
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:22.279
agricultural lands. Let's see according to
the an article printed in the Boston Globe

421
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.680
in August is headlined these libertarians want
to take over New Hampshire and then there's

422
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.920
more to the headline. I'll get
that as a reference for tonight's show and

423
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.319
I'll put it into the live chatroom
atochelli dot com. It's an article from

424
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.680
the Boston Globe. As I said, so, you know, little sub

425
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.799
reference. There we go. So
I'd never heard of this before. I

426
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.039
mean, I've heard of secession movements, but I'd never heard of the porcupine

427
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.240
thing in New Hampshire anyway, Sorry
man, Yes, yeah, well,

428
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.119
I was going to say, I'll
throw a link in the room. There

429
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.440
is a link to the Free State
Project. Oh yeah, an organization,

430
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.000
and I'll throw that in the room. People can go check it out.

431
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.400
Yeah, please do. Meanwhile,
let's advance get get to his points here.

432
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.000
I've now cut him off twice.
My mistake. Go ahead, vance

433
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:11.200
have anything else you had on your
mind, or go ahead. You know,

434
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.400
that's just that was the point I
was trying to make in general,

435
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.759
is just, you know, that's
something we need to you know, really,

436
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.119
you know, be more aware of
and you know, make more people

437
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.519
aware of so that you know,
you know, it can't happen if it's

438
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.240
not imagined. You know, first
you got to imagine it, and then

439
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.920
you know it can happen. So
you know, you've got a lot of

440
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:37.200
people nowadays that you know, at
whatever level they've accepted it, they know

441
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.319
in the back of their mind that
this is all messed up. And you

442
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:45.039
know, if offered a real,
legitimate, you know, alternative, you

443
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.119
know that they'd be easy to get
a movement gone, you know, And

444
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.559
I guess you know, that's the
biggest problem that has kept it from kicking

445
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.480
off any better since two thousand and
four or whatever in the past is because

446
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.200
of the way that they can control
the narrative. And you know, in

447
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.839
the beginning, you're saying, I'm
a goat says well, I'm against social

448
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.240
engineer and a pillarism and technocracy.
You know, I stand against that,

449
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:12.480
you know. So you know,
I'm I'm glad more people are aware of

450
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.759
it, and you know, I
bring it up every every chance I get.

451
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:22.680
There's a guy named Texas Slim that
has started a beef coalition kind of

452
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.000
thing here to encourage people, you
know, to buy direct from the from

453
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:33.079
the producer and and you know,
get your beef, you know, from

454
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.640
a you know, you can where
you can go to the actual ranch and

455
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.200
walk around, look at the cattle
and see where they you know, where

456
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:42.279
they raise them, and uh,
you know, buy fresh wholesome meat that

457
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.640
you know, you know where it
came from and you know didn't come from

458
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:53.319
Brazil or China or a lab somewhere, and you know that that's that's we

459
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.039
need to start thinking that way because
you know, apparently I'm not really happy

460
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:02.359
with the definitely not very happy with
where our leaders are leading us to you

461
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:07.960
at this point. Now I've seen
Texas Slim actually make the rounds on a

462
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.559
couple of podcasts, a few people
have been talking about this issue with meat,

463
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.119
and the state of Texas is involved
in that discussion quite a bit.

464
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:20.160
I wasn't even aware that they were
still producing a lot of beef quite frankly,

465
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.519
but apparently they are. And there's
things going on with that industry in

466
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:29.519
the state of Texas too, right
man, Well, yeah, and that's

467
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:36.480
what And I was see because I'm
ninety percent certain that they're right two hundred

468
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.279
yards or one hundred and fifty yards
from my door is this big power line

469
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:45.880
that was put up to be a
part of the wind turbine grid and all

470
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.880
that for, you know, the
wind farms, right, and I think

471
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.000
it's just sitting there, not even
being used for all these years, to

472
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:58.440
the truth, but I'm not I'm
not aware. You know, maybe they're

473
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.039
using it for other power or whatever. But anyway, besides the point,

474
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.680
I'm pretty sure he was involved with
that, you know, getting that started.

475
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.359
And he started out as a rancher
up in West Texas, somewhere out

476
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.400
in the West Texas, fan him
or whatever his family, and then he

477
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:15.759
you know, and when he got
older, was restless, and you know,

478
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.559
he went to Austin to to learn
tech stuff and it was like the

479
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.160
tech industry for a while. And
and so any right, when I first

480
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:30.799
heard it, when I when I
I assumed, you know, from his

481
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.559
connection with the wind power thing,
that he was just some rich billionaire dude

482
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.839
that you know, was you know
scammed, you know, and you know,

483
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.079
making money on you know, energy
and all that, you know,

484
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.559
And then I hear these these interviews. I listened to an hour and a

485
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.440
half interview with them the other day, and I was surprised about how intelligent

486
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.640
and he's really you know, he's
in touch with the you know, all

487
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:59.640
the manipulation that they've been doing through
the government agencies and all that, and

488
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:01.119
you know, but you know,
trying to get rid of beef, you

489
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:06.200
know, because it's bad for the
climate, and you know, all that

490
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:07.440
kind of crap, and he was, he was really on the ball.

491
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.039
I was. I was impressed,
and so I'm hoping, you know,

492
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.760
he's a legitimate guy. He's putting
his money where his mouth is. And

493
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.760
he started like a school to teach
butcher you know, butchering, because you

494
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.280
know, it's like the lost art
most people, you know, I imagine

495
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.760
there's probably some kids that don't even
know beef comes from a cow, you

496
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.320
know. Yeah, no, that's
for sure. Yeah, no, that

497
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.119
that's for sure. There's always the
mentality of well where does food come from

498
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:42.519
the food store, which I think
has not been productive for young people in

499
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.119
general, you know, in the
recent generations, and not know where the

500
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.840
hell this stuff comes from, where
it should come from. You know,

501
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.480
like, why would they even object
to the you know, pink sline in

502
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:57.840
the Hamburger me why would they even
bother if they don't even know it's there.

503
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.480
It's just it's just part of the
package. And you know, why

504
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.320
even show them that there's another choice. Meanwhile, this guy's been on a

505
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.800
lot of podcasts and has one of
his own. I put some listings in

506
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.480
the live chatroom Attochelli dot com about
Texas Slim and his podcasts, and you

507
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.159
know, I invite you the listener
to go ahead and listen to other stuff

508
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.039
and gain information. Who knows,
maybe he would be a good guy to

509
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.639
bring on the show and just have
a conversation with, because again I'm not

510
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:28.519
highly educated in this area, but
always good to know where your food does

511
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.199
come from and where it should come
from. And my question bpe good,

512
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.440
Yeah, I got a question.
You know, they talk about cattle.

513
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.719
I mean, I'm a steak lover. I can't help it. I like

514
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.000
my steak, I like my grill. I like my steak, I like

515
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.079
ribs, I like roasts like barbecues. The thing is they talk about,

516
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.679
you know, cowsby in such a
detriment to the climate because of the methane

517
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.119
they put off and everything. And
in some countries over in the EU that

518
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:58.039
are trying to tax farmers per head
of cattle as a carbon tax or a

519
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.440
meththange tax. Yeah, because of
all the pollutants they put in the air.

520
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.760
Some farms are being cold, whether
they're being told they have to half

521
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.280
their herd and get rid of it
and be limited as to what they can

522
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.119
produce. My question is this,
with all the advanced science that we've got,

523
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.920
hasn't boddy anybody figured out that if
you just get a big enough cann

524
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:20.639
ofbino and add it to their feet, it would cut down on the gas.

525
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.639
Shouldn't that work? I don't know, you know, because I remember

526
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.559
this being the big joke a few
years ago where it was like, you

527
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.360
know, it was part of the
package. Right. The frogs are gay,

528
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:31.760
they're trying to take your hamburgers away, you know, I mean,

529
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:36.920
it rhymed, real nice. And
there were people out there screaming it,

530
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.480
whether they knew what they were talking
about or not. And it is a

531
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:44.360
thing Now, on the one hand, I think that factory farming is not

532
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.400
doing us a lot of favors.
I think that it's you know, and

533
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.599
when you're shipping meat from you know, thousands of miles away to get to

534
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.960
somewhere, it's not doing us favors. And there's something to be said about

535
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.360
that. I think that most of
your food should be sourced locally as best

536
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.519
you can. That's just the smart
thing to do for your general well being.

537
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.559
But at the same time, is
it possible, you know, and

538
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.840
and I always ask that question too, is that you know at a certain

539
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.760
point, you know, we can
we can put people in outer space.

540
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:20.000
Uh, we can do this and
that, and you can do gene manipulation

541
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.400
and so on and so forth,
but you can't deal with the cow farting.

542
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.760
I don't know, you know,
is it just about that or is

543
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.960
there more to it? Uh?
You know, I'm will be honest with

544
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.559
you as big as they say that. The problem is if you ever smelled

545
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.920
the cow fart. I haven't,
and I'm living in an area that's basically

546
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.199
rural. So my question is if
they fart so much we don't smell them,

547
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:42.119
Well, I don't know if you
don't smell them now, do you

548
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.440
know they farted? I was around
some cows in Jersey, and uh,

549
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.920
you know that that that's not to
say anything about my dating life. I'm

550
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.760
talking about, you know the fact
that I used to I actually like cows.

551
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.199
And there are some places you can
go and they'll you pay a fee

552
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.760
to hang out with the cows.
No kidding. In New Jersey, okay,

553
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.840
I mean, I know it's strange, but the place was called the

554
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:07.800
Garden State at one point. They
have these giants. The tongues are amazingly

555
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:09.519
large. When they stick out their
mouths like you go to feed them or

556
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:15.920
something. It is really crazy.
They're really large animals. Of course,

557
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.440
I've heard of cow tipping and all
this kind of thing too. People do

558
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:22.079
that at night, and okay,
but I've been around them, and to

559
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.239
tell you the truth, I think
I have been around when they've been farting,

560
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:30.320
because it definitely smelled like that for
sure, and in different blasts at

561
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.199
different points. Might have a lot
to do with what you're feeding them,

562
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.519
though, you know, I think
maybe that the cows that are getting fed

563
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.159
by people that are coming in from
the outside and not always giving them the

564
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:44.199
approved feed might be causing problems.
But I am no sort of expert.

565
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.119
You know. You talk to me
about puppies a little bit. I know

566
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.280
something because I've raised some of them, but I haven't raised cows. I

567
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:54.400
don't know a lot about cows except
that I just think they're very cool creatures

568
00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.880
in a spiritual way. And I
also don't mind eating them. I'm weird

569
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.719
like that. You know, a
lot of people if I get into a

570
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.960
deep discussion about how I appreciate the
animal, they figure I wouldn't want to

571
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.719
eat it. But I have this
very relative sort of viewpoint on those things,

572
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:16.239
you know, where people I appreciate
the most, you know, and

573
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:23.880
look, I'm not they are they
are? You know, let's see,

574
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:28.039
well from the chat room, cows
farting being a problem for the so called

575
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.960
climate crisis is b s Yeah,
okay, face I think so too,

576
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.159
But you know, can I scientifically
prove it? I wonder maybe I should

577
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.239
reach out to Texas Slim and see
if I can get him on here and

578
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.000
have a couple of conversations with him, see what we can learn together.

579
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.480
That might be a good idea.
Let's put a pin in that. Okay,

580
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.519
thanks, vance anything else you want
to add well, the climate change,

581
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:58.800
you know, unless science has changed, which it has. But I

582
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:04.320
was taught that the there's a carbon
based planet. So you know, pretty

583
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:09.079
much everything except for like silicon a
couple of is all carbon. You know,

584
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:14.639
everything's carbon and it and it goes
back to carbon when it when it

585
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:20.079
you know, uh, deteriorates and
you know, degrades and all that.

586
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.920
You know, it breaks back down. You know, water has got carbon

587
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:30.039
in it or you hydrocarbons U.
So this is so weird. It's like,

588
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.440
how are we going to tax people
on carbon when you're made out of

589
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.360
carbon? You know, the cars
made out of carbon, the wheel,

590
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:39.679
the tires have made up you know, a large percentage of carbon. This

591
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.320
is definitely the biggest hoax or one
of the biggest hoaks they've been able to

592
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.719
pull off. So I'll leave it
there. No fair enough. And the

593
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.360
only thing that I could say in
defense of the idea that there could be

594
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.039
problems with this stuff is that when
you have an imbalanced I mean clearly when

595
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.000
it comes to you know, handling
animals and when it comes handling the land,

596
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.719
if you either are extracting too much
of one thing or putting too much

597
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.920
of another thing into that land,
you cause problems. It's just that simple,

598
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.679
right, So, you know,
there has to be a give and

599
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.599
take with the land if you're going
to work with it. I mean,

600
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.559
this is one of those very basic
principles that just seem to prevail among people

601
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.199
that actually did this. I think
when they do it on an industrial scale,

602
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:29.079
though, it might change the equation
and could cause problems, not necessarily

603
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.559
because they're putting something that is toxic
into the situation a lot of times,

604
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.480
although sometimes they're doing that too with
some of these chemicals and things. But

605
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:43.360
I think that the major problems are
probably caused by the massive imbalance, you

606
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.159
know, where they've sort of stripped
land of its usefulness by sucking all the

607
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:51.320
nutrients out of it and never replacing
it back when it comes to farming or

608
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.559
you know. Another thing that's interesting
that a lot of these vegetarians don't understand

609
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.599
is that, you know, one
of the great things that makes your you

610
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.280
know, vegetables suck up so many
great things from the soil is when that

611
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:08.599
soil has some sort of animal products
given back to it. It's one of

612
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:14.000
the great things that does help.
You know, you can't just grow vegetables.

613
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.719
By recycling your vegetables back into the
land. It helps a lot when

614
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:22.119
you have some animal products go back
and decay back into the land. It's

615
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.400
just one of those things that happens. I mean, yes, the sun

616
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:30.360
contributes and all all these things come
into a balance and create these you know,

617
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.159
miraculous things that are plants and animals
and so on and so forth,

618
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.679
and they feed each other, and
there is there are systems here. But

619
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.800
when we throw it totally out of
balance, I think we do no one

620
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.960
any favors now outside of that,
you know, do you have a right

621
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.360
to tell people, Okay, we're
going to tax the hell out of you

622
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.800
because or make it impossible for you
to actually, you know, do the

623
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.280
farming now because you got to pay
Monsanto, and you got to pay your

624
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.679
carbon tax, and you got to
pay your land tax, and you know,

625
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.320
here we go. What are you
going to be left with except these

626
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:09.440
massive conglomerates that do it on an
industrial scales, with the speed and with

627
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.199
the massive sourcing that can be done
with as few people in the equation as

628
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.679
possible. Which is funny because I
haven't seen too many discussions about you know,

629
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.440
the automation of this, right,
I'm figuring automation is in every other

630
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:29.840
type of service and industry that there
has to be an issue of automation here

631
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.960
also, is that the right way
to go? Is that what we're doing?

632
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.599
And is there not a way that
we could sort of distribute these things

633
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.920
a little better so that the give
and take with the planet is a little

634
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:45.039
more balanced. I think those are
all reasonable discussions to be had. But

635
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.000
this whole like, you know,
well, this industry needs to be taxed

636
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.360
and oh, by the way,
you shouldn't even be eating meat anyway,

637
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:57.800
and you know, it gets into
a whole ridiculous thing where okay, now

638
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.960
the control of the culture comes into
play and everything else, and it's just

639
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.639
it's horrendous, man. And it's
a huge, huge topic that you know,

640
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.119
I haven't had the as many opportunities
as I would like to have addressed

641
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.119
it. You know, from a
reasonable perspective, you know, what is

642
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:17.159
it we can do? And yeah? Good? And and I you know,

643
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:24.400
fully aware and uh cognizant of the
you know, the pollution aspect of

644
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.199
it. Yeah, I mean,
you know, I'm not saying that you

645
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.920
know, there's should be nothing you
know, to worry there's you know,

646
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:31.960
absolutely nothing to worry about, and
all that kind of stuff. But the

647
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:37.719
things that they're tempting to tax or
or just I mean that the Agenda twenty

648
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.599
whatever, I mean, they they're
they're on record, you know, saying

649
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.199
that you know, they're going to
make humans the next threat to the planet,

650
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:51.039
you know, and and you know
that that that's that technocracy stuff that

651
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.760
they're pushing all this stuff just to
you know, further tighten their control over

652
00:44:54.800 --> 00:45:02.239
all the resources and and and humanity
excuse me, uh uh in general.

653
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:07.559
And so you know that's the that's
the angle that I was going at,

654
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.719
you know, by saying that you
know, they've convinced us that you know,

655
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.119
we're a threat to you know,
we're all you know, potentially you

656
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.199
know, dangerous, and when they'd
be less of us and all that,

657
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:21.960
which is exactly the opposite of the
case, you know, and the uh,

658
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:27.400
the the control that there's all kinds
of stuff that you know could be

659
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.840
done that would lessen all that.
I mean, the whole hemp thing you

660
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.280
know that that you know got outlawed
in the twenties and all that is is

661
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.880
one of the most useful resources on
the planet and could have you know,

662
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:45.079
prevented all kinds of these problems that
we're talking about from soil erosion and and

663
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.280
you know the health of disoil and
all that kind of stuff. And so

664
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.679
it's definitely a mess. But you
know, there's plenty of everything to go

665
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.679
around. It's just a matter.
You know, they can't make no profit

666
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:01.519
on it, so they want to
make sure they got to control. You

667
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:05.639
follow where I'm growing, I'll stop
there, No, absolutely, I'm gonna

668
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.599
put you on hold just for the
for the time being, and we're gonna

669
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.599
we're gonna cycle things back around.
Here's here's the thing. You know,

670
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.840
the first real argument that was sort
of counterproductive to me being able to be

671
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.639
everybody's friend and podcaster broadcaster extraordinary that
I thought I was on my way to

672
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:24.440
becoming that I never got to.
You know what's funny about it is that

673
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:30.840
the first massive arguments I had,
like really nasty fallouts with people that started

674
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:36.760
turning them against me was this bs
of oh, the population is way out

675
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:39.599
of control, there's too many people
on the planet, and they think they're

676
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.440
freedom fighters, basically telling us there's
too many people on the planet, and

677
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.679
that leads to a very dangerous sort
of mindset in my mind, this whole

678
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.800
idea that well, what we need
to do is this and that, and

679
00:46:52.840 --> 00:47:00.599
there's just too many people. This
planet, if reasonably managed, can actually

680
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.599
handle many more people than are on
it right now. It's not the planet's

681
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:08.159
fault. It's not necessarily you know, all these things that people want to

682
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:14.159
argue about it is. Really it's
like the old Sam Kinnison joke. You

683
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.039
know, look, get out of
the desert. That's not where the food

684
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.119
is. Okay, I'm shortening it, I'm making it a lot nicer,

685
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.440
but that's what the problem is,
is that people are in the wrong spots

686
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:28.880
and stuff is not distributed. If
there was, you know, some way

687
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:34.960
that things could be distributed without playing
the various games of scarcity which are for

688
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.719
profit. Whether it's about water,
it's about literal the basic food staples,

689
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:44.079
it's about shelter, any of this
stuff. There are plenty of resources to

690
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:49.320
go around to sustain people. It's
just that if we're going to argue over

691
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:53.079
it and keep putting people in the
wrong places and not distributing resources and creating

692
00:47:53.559 --> 00:48:00.440
natural solutions where resources are sustainable by
the planet itself, then yeah, you've

693
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:05.679
got problems where there's too many people
in particular places. But even if you

694
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.639
take a look at the available land
and what can be done with it and

695
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:13.039
so on and so forth, there's
plenty of space. There's plenty of space

696
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.480
that we don't need to be compacted
into these mega cities and the Agenda twenty

697
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.280
thirty thing. We don't need to
be forced to eat bugs and we don't

698
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.440
need to be sitting here geting guilt
tripped every time you decide you want to

699
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.679
eat a piece of meat. It's
not necessary. You're not destroying the planet.

700
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.400
It's the management of the resources and
the distribution, well, is the

701
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.639
problem. Yeah, go ahead.
Not only that, it's too many different

702
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:37.559
facts. I mean, granted,
yes, there's a lot of place on

703
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:43.199
the Earth that there aren't many people, but a lot of those places are

704
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.159
conditions that a lot of people don't
want to live in. You know,

705
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:52.800
Siberia is not India population wise,
because it's so damn hard to live there.

706
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:57.559
Yeah. The thing is the biggest
problem is one. You've got the

707
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.800
money aspect of it that vans fraught
of and I see a lot of that

708
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.599
here in this state based on I
mean, this is an agriculture state.

709
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.480
That's their number one industry, and
they do a good job of doing the

710
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:13.800
local sourcing deal. Our agg department
has done a good job of promoting North

711
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.639
Carolina products within the state. But
that being said, the biggest problem you've

712
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:22.039
got is people just can't get along. Well there you go. People would

713
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.840
love to move to other areas,
but it's like, hey, you know,

714
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:27.480
there goes the neighborhood, and now
we got to start a problem.

715
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.400
See, but people could learn to
get along with each other, we'd have

716
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.960
a lot less other problems. You'd
have a lot less people bitching about things

717
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.719
on the periphery, like your cow
is parting too much. You know,

718
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.599
if people were getting along and were
able to share resources, you'd see a

719
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.360
big change in things. Well,
it doesn't even have to be the Kumbaya

720
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:52.840
sharing of resources. It's just a
simple matter of distribution and stopping the artificial

721
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:58.559
scarcity for profit because in reality,
there's plenty of stuff that goes to waste

722
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:05.440
all over the place because things are
distributed according to the economics. It's not

723
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.440
a matter of it doesn't only that
you've got like our government, you know,

724
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:13.159
this whole ethanol thing that's been going
on. You just jacked up the

725
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:17.280
price of the number one commodity in
most things, which is corn, by

726
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:25.119
artificially inflating the use of ethanol,
which doesn't meet any of the purposes that

727
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:30.880
they trying to claim it will help
us with. It doesn't help the you

728
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:35.440
know, the environment, It doesn't
help corn prices, which affects god knows

729
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:39.239
how many other things. It doesn't
help you know, your car. It

730
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:45.480
just it ruins the engine burning the
stuff. But it's a government policy that's

731
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.159
been put in place to help facilitate
keeping the price of a major commodity up.

732
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.079
Think of how much prices would drop
if they did away with all these

733
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.920
ethanol subsidies and we went back to
using regular gasoline. Yeah. See,

734
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:00.599
I wish you see a big change
economically. Ethanol was the major problem.

735
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:04.400
I asked the question all the time, and nobody wants to answer it.

736
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:10.280
What exactly happened here where corn becomes
the commodity that is distributed. I mean,

737
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.039
think about how many things have corn
syrup in them? How many things

738
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:20.199
have I mean, seriously, corn
is like in everything. Why is this

739
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.119
the case? This is not necessarily
the natural order of stuff? I mean,

740
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.360
you go from breakfast cereal to what's
going in your gas tank, and

741
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.440
corn is at the center of millions
of things. I mean it's like,

742
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.280
well, I mean components of corn. It's a meal in itself. But

743
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.920
yet when you start breaking it down
between its oils and its ability to make

744
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:46.639
alcohol, you know, there's like
soybeans, yeah, but there's a lot

745
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.960
of how wide soybeans are used in? How many products you have soy in?

746
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.039
Now? See? But that's the
thing is, at some point somebody

747
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:59.880
pushed this into the system where it
becomes a prevalent staple of thousands of products.

748
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.039
You know what I'm saying. It's
like it clearly that is not the

749
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.440
natural order of things. That was
engineered. Now, I understand that the

750
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:12.159
people that grow corn need to make
a living one way or another, I

751
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.920
get it, But I mean,
seriously, at a certain point, though,

752
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:21.119
you start asking a question like why
is it in everything modern ingenuity and

753
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.320
that goes that goes on worldwide.
I mean, you have a product like

754
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:29.559
corn or soybeans or you know,
anything else, and the guys immediately,

755
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:30.920
Okay, what can we do with
this? Who was it? Was it?

756
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.079
George Washington Carver and the peanut look
at how many uses you found for

757
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.760
the peanut between oil and peanut butter. You know, that's just a natural

758
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.000
mind. What can I do with
this thing here that I have? Well,

759
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.400
I can grow it and eat it, or I can break it down

760
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.519
and ferment it, or I can
grind it up and use it as ingredients

761
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:54.960
in this that's just the ingenuity of
man. I never to make up the

762
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:59.599
versatile products. But the reason that
got so big in this country is because

763
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:05.800
of the corn lobby pumping money into
Washington to mandate that we spend money on

764
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:13.480
ethanol, which is a fuel that
uses more carbon to produce than the value

765
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.440
you get from using it. Yeah, no kidding, but that's how ridiculous

766
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:21.840
it's got. That's but that's my
point is that there is I absolutely object

767
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.079
to the idea that it's just simple
ingenuity, and that this because there are

768
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:30.000
better ways to supplement fuel. There
are better ways to supplement your sweeteners,

769
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:34.239
there are better ways to add to
the food supply cheaply and have things to

770
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.760
be stored. Then to use corn. There are better ways, there are

771
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.599
more diverse ways to do this.
I mean again, you know hemp is

772
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:44.960
one of those things that does grow. I'm not all in on the hemp

773
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.880
for everything idea. However, hemp
is very versatile. There are other things

774
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:54.079
that are very versatile, and there's
a lot of things that could be Trying

775
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:59.280
to get some products. In my
industry, we use a lot of products

776
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.000
that are and eight out of materials
that come from overseas, core fibers and

777
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.159
things of that nature. And I've
been investigating trying to make products out of

778
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:15.639
hemp here locally. And you have
that government law that has taken marijuana and

779
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.079
shoved it into a Class one scheduled
drug. And that's why these companies won't

780
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:27.599
touch it until marijuana is legal on
the federal level. They won't even talk

781
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:32.480
about using hemp products because of the
hassles involved and the permitting and the just

782
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.159
the government overreached. You can produce
things here locally and provide a lot of

783
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:42.719
jobs for people, easy to pain, easy target jobs making products out of

784
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.159
hemp, But until the Feds get
it off the damn Schedule one list,

785
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:49.119
we're screwed. Yeah, it's too
easy a target hemp. I shouldn't have

786
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.159
brought it up because here's the thing. There is a whole variety of things

787
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:58.519
that could be utilized much much better, more efficiently, et cetera, across

788
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.239
the board. I mean seriously,
seaweed is one of those things that was

789
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:05.639
investigated. There's plenty of that when
you go to you know, if we

790
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.519
haven't destroyed the oceans yet, there's
plenty of that available and people are not

791
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:13.559
utilizing it as they could. Anyways, I want you guys to utilize the

792
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:17.039
phones, okay, and get in
on the conversation at three one nine five

793
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.519
two seven, five zero one six. Let's try and move through quicker.

794
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.079
We'll get back around to anybody who's
hanging on and continue the conversation on the

795
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:30.920
live open mic here on a Friday
night three one nine five two seven five

796
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:35.480
zero one six. Please join us, and let's get through any topic that

797
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:37.920
you have on your mind, whether
it is in the news or simply in

798
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.960
the world. Let's do this here
on the Ocelli Effect, my cos Be,

799
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.840
Pete, myself, and any of
you that call in. We'll be

800
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:53.639
back after this. Go ahead,
calin I, let's just sit in the

801
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:57.599
truth about the dafasation, right well, what do you want to know,

802
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.159
paim oswal friends, the new Ruby
and very handser weapons. Really, I

803
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:06.159
imagine I could claim I have four
wheels, it doesn't make me a wagon.

804
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.519
But okay, well, I'm the
building and I'm trying to prevent the

805
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.480
murder of John Kennedy. Come on
now, has a real effort on the

806
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:17.760
DAFA assassination into claim. Go to
Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

807
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:22.519
own words. You'll get the results
for a digital copy of a book where

808
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:27.800
Walt Brown utilizes her own words and
the known evidence in the case to get

809
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.519
at well a different perspective. Let's
say you can get Judith Very Baker in

810
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:37.840
her own words from the author himself
signed if you request it by contacting doctor

811
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.719
Brown at k I A S JFK
at aol dot com. It's a fun

812
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:47.599
book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims Judith Very Baker in

813
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.599
her own words. Thank you for
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It's just the truth about the JFA
assassination. Right, Well, what do

855
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:13.599
you want to know? Daddy Baker's
wild claim Oswald girlfriends he knew Ruby and

856
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.440
Barry hanswer weapons? Really, I
imagine I could claim I have four wheels.

857
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:21.199
It doesn't make me a wagon.
But okay, Oswald building and I'm

858
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:22.920
trying to prevent the murder of John
Kennedy. Come on now, has a

859
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:28.079
real effort on the JAFFA assassination.
Book into her claims. Go to Amazon

860
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:32.119
dot com enter Judith Baker in her
own words. You'll get the results for

861
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:37.000
a digital copy of a book where
Walt Brown utilizes her own words and the

862
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:43.159
known evidence in the case to get
at well a different perspective. Let's say

863
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:47.000
you can get Judith Barry Baker in
her own words from the author himself signed

864
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if you request it by contacting doctor
Brown at k I A S JFK at

865
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:57.920
aol dot com. It's a fun
book and it actually dissects the many,

866
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:05.039
many fantastic claims. Who is very
Baker in her own words? Nuclear holocaust?

867
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:08.039
You know what uranium is right?
Think called nuclear weapons and other things

868
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:13.440
like lots of you know what uranium
is right? Fair things? Things are

869
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:16.960
done with uranium, including some bad
things. Nuclear holocaust. You know what

870
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:22.840
uranium is right? Nuclear holocaust,
Nuclear holocaust? You know what uuranium is

871
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:28.159
right? They think called nuclear weapons
and other things like lots of you know

872
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:55.360
what uranium is right? The things
are done Jilly dot com. The second

873
01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:00.639
segment of the live open mic here
on a Friday night, The Effect and

874
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.880
you can join us, be part
of it, be heard if you want

875
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:07.840
to be uh no restrictions on topic
or whatever's on your mind. Give you

876
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:13.840
an easy five minutes where you know
at least to speak your piece okay,

877
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.639
three one nine five two seven five
zero one six. That's the way it

878
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.800
is. And I do see you
guys on the stream, so why don't

879
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.440
you come on and call in and
be part of the show. Three one

880
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:29.679
nine five two seven five zero one
six. I got two guys, uh,

881
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:31.800
still waiting on the line. We
got Harlan and we got advanced.

882
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:37.760
But you could join them. Three
one nine five two seven five zero one

883
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.079
six. I do get crazy annoyed
with having to repeat that phone number,

884
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.679
but I know if I don't,
and even if I just said, oh,

885
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.000
you guys know the number and whatnot, somebody would go, eh,

886
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:50.360
but you know what, you didn't
say the number, so I didn't know

887
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:52.639
how to call in. I've actually
had somebody say that before, and I'm

888
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.119
like, with how many times I
say it on Friday night? You don't

889
01:03:55.159 --> 01:04:01.480
know anyway. I will run longer
than ten o'clock. If if everybody you

890
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:06.000
know joins in and we got something
I don't know productive going on, no

891
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.360
problem. If not, we'll go
through the merry go round with the two

892
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:14.119
guys I got on the line.
Uh, but a new caller I will

893
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:16.519
add in even out of order.
So come on in and join us,

894
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:19.519
and if you have more than one
caller comes in, I'll put you on

895
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:24.400
in the order that you called in. I think that's fair enough. So

896
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:30.760
I was looking at the news vandal
stuff this week and definitely love to catch

897
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:32.840
what he does on a daily on
to five days a week when he does

898
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:36.760
the rundown. Of course, we
know what's been dominating the news a lot

899
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:40.960
lately, and I guess I'll get
to a couple of things here really quickly.

900
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.280
You know, the race for house
speaker. I'm seeing reports that Jim

901
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.039
Jordan, even though he was offered
up, they're trying to say that there

902
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.400
was some bullying and intimidation behind the
scenes, and blah blah, blah blah

903
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:56.760
blah. Anyway, he's not your
house speaker. We don't have a Speaker

904
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:00.079
of the House at the moment.
So there's that that's going on. Oh,

905
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:06.880
Sidney Powell apparently pled guilty to her
charges in the State of Georgia.

906
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.119
I didn't even really break that one
apart yet, But that's going on.

907
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:15.719
In the political news and such.
We have the war based news that is

908
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:19.440
happening in Israel and Palestine, and
if you don't know that's happening. Welcome

909
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:23.079
back to the daylight. You've just
crawled out from under a rock, and

910
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:27.159
I would like to know where your
rock is because it's probably hitting pretty well.

911
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:32.119
Anyways, there's that there are many
other things going on in the world.

912
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:34.960
Would love to hear from you about
them, even if it's a local

913
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:40.159
story and whatnot. Of course,
murder and mayhem continues to happen everywhere.

914
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:45.440
Not everywhere all the time, but
everywhere it happens. Let's see, I

915
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.800
see in our chat room face Shifter
says he wants to go to Landers and

916
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:55.199
camp with Aaron. Cool enough.
I get that. I did talk about

917
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.159
what we're going to do in Dallas
and all that coming up pretty soon.

918
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:00.480
Also, I'm looking for my newsman
wink care I know I had one.

919
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:04.719
Ah here it is okay, So
the leads from today from the rundown at

920
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:08.760
the news Vandal, just going to
jump around through a couple of them,

921
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:14.440
because, like I said, there's
other things happening inside the psychiatric hospitals where

922
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:18.039
foster kids are a gold mine.
Bet you that gets your mind working out

923
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:21.000
there. But it is true.
There is the business of what it is

924
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:25.920
you can get out of the government
payments that come out of taking care of

925
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:30.920
the people that are vulnerable out there. Anyway, as a counterbalance, what's

926
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:34.480
the next thing here? With end
of federal program? Kansas students space skyrocketing,

927
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:40.519
school meal debt Okay, culture wars
on campus start to affect student choices

928
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:43.880
for colleges. Gee, this is
a lot of suburban issues. Let's skip

929
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:48.519
down a little bit. Republicans change
tu and on free speech over pro Palestine

930
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:55.800
rallies, Palestinian rallies at colleges.
Why we must resist the right wing attack

931
01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:00.320
on free speech on Palestine, Ministry
of Truth movement. Half of Biden voters

932
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:05.679
say government should regulate or restrict offensive
speech. I always love that, by

933
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:10.360
the way, that you know,
regardless of people saying that they're all for

934
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:15.679
free speech, left and right seem
to do this rather nicely on time when

935
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:19.199
it comes up. If they really
aggressively oppose something, they're always happy to

936
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:24.360
post free speech for it, you
know. But other times they're willing to

937
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:29.000
die for your pre speech until it
cuts against their grain somehow. I always

938
01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:32.719
love that. Anyways, New York
flouts quote order by demanding social media platform

939
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:39.119
sensor users over Israeli Jimas war,
who gets to decide what the truth is

940
01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:44.199
when social media is rife with misinformation? Tell you that was an interesting little

941
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:48.239
look at things earlier this week when
we had the hospital get destroyed in Palestine?

942
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.760
Right? Or was that in Israel? Gee? Did anybody even care?

943
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:56.519
They were jumping right on the bandwagon
to talk about what happened even before

944
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:59.920
they knew what happened, which,
by the way, is the overall symptom.

945
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.480
And leads me into one last thing
before I get back to be Pete

946
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:06.760
and see what he's got to add
to the conversation and the callers really fast,

947
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:10.760
I ask you to consider something here, and I'm going to go over

948
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:13.880
that four hour discussion. I think
I'm going to release it in a couple

949
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:18.119
of parts as a podcast and ask
questions that should have been asked of everybody

950
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:23.119
on the show because to my mind
and to the mind of a couple of

951
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:30.239
independent people that I sent the recording
to VP, that's I don't know why

952
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:33.720
you're making a lot of noise on
the mic? You okay, yeah,

953
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:36.399
okay, Now, just all of
a sudden it sounded like your mic was

954
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:41.399
dragging around. Just I thought something
went wrong, all right? Anyways,

955
01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:45.680
back to where I was. I'll
tell you this from the judgments that were

956
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:49.319
sent back to me. It was
interesting because I don't think there was anybody

957
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:57.680
on that show that night that didn't
either make a misstatement or wasn't simply repeating

958
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:02.319
something that is effectively scripted. And
I'm including myself in this, that wasn't

959
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:08.079
effectively scripted by one side of an
argument or another, almost like a completely

960
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:14.640
prescribed, prepackaged thing. Everybody on
the show. I might pull Harlan out

961
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:18.359
of that as maybe the one guy
who I couldn't directly say was absolutely speaking

962
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:24.840
from a scripted point of view,
but everybody, including myself, was basically

963
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:29.399
making misleading statements. I'm going to
ask those questions and I'm going to go

964
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.640
back over it and just say,
Okay, what should we be asking here?

965
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:36.439
What should be getting heard here or
there? It was a terrible job

966
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:42.600
by everybody speaking on that show if
anybody was looking to inform anybody, That's

967
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:46.079
the way that I see it.
And maybe you guys will disagree, maybe

968
01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:49.520
you guys will agree, maybe we'll
all come to a different consensus about what

969
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:53.119
it is we're hearing. But I
think I'm going to go back over it.

970
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:55.600
I might even invite a guest to
go back over with me and see

971
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:58.600
what their impressions are. But I
doubt anybody else is going to want to

972
01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.279
sit through that four hours with me. And also I'm going to break it

973
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:04.479
up so it's not just a four
hour you know, foill, It would

974
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:09.560
be probably about five and a half
hours with commentary or questions being asked in

975
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:15.760
between different things. There was a
lot of weird tactical things going on during

976
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:19.199
that conversation, and it was a
mess. I don't like releasing it as

977
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:25.600
a podcast for that reason, but
I might just to ask the questions that

978
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.439
I think are not getting asked,
because I think in our daily lives,

979
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:33.039
each person on that show represents somebody
or a particular faction that you could easily

980
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:38.920
encounter if you attempt to have the
discussion. But what are the critical things

981
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:45.159
that should be asked, that should
be questioned throughout everybody's statements during that show.

982
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.560
I might do that. I'm considering
it. You guys, let me

983
01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:51.479
know infoodochelli dot com, email me
there, or send me on one of

984
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:56.039
the social media as a message and
let me know if that's even worthy of

985
01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:59.479
your time. Would you want to
hear the podcast. Actually, you know,

986
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:05.159
it's a lot of very typical statements, and I'm really disappointed in myself

987
01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:09.840
over a couple of things. I'm
disappointed in a few other things that were

988
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:12.079
said. I don't want to judge
it, though, I want to just

989
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.840
put out Look, here's the questions
that are not being asked, and here's

990
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:18.000
what you could have heard anywhere else. There was nothing unique coming out of

991
01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:23.840
that show. I don't think it
was productive at all. Might have made

992
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:26.640
some of us feel better that we
were able to vent or discuss this very

993
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.079
frustrating and ugly topic for a bit, but that's honestly how I feel about

994
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:34.920
that last four hour show. Was
not productive or informative. But maybe we

995
01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:38.680
go over it, or maybe we
go over part of it. Like I

996
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:41.000
said, I want to hear what
you guys think. Is it worth our

997
01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:45.000
time to go through it or should
I just release it uncut? You guys

998
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.319
tell me, and that's how that
podcast will come out from last Friday.

999
01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:51.800
Okay, I think that's a fair
enough offer. If you listen to these

1000
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:57.680
Friday night discussions, tell me if
you want to hear four hours a very

1001
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:09.439
very typical banter over the Israeli slash
Palestinian issue and the IDF versus Hamas issue,

1002
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:12.960
and back to that thing really quickly. On the hospital. I'm not

1003
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.119
sure I buy anybody's story. And
by the way, if you honestly think

1004
01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:23.119
that anybody's defense forces or anybody's militarized
element of any organization is going to tell

1005
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:29.720
you the truth in the midst of
a conflict, I don't know what to

1006
01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:31.680
say to you. I mean,
I wish I could live in a world

1007
01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:35.079
where that's the way it worked,
but it doesn't. And I don't think

1008
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:41.600
anybody's completely honest. It is strategically
bad to be completely honest. And there

1009
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:45.760
you go. So there's that.
But anyway, it turns out that this

1010
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:49.319
missile that struck that hospital, which
was a Baptist hospital, I think,

1011
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:57.359
you know, might have been fired
by Islami jihad. Maybe the Israelis are

1012
01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:01.039
telling the truth, maybe not.
If they weren't, it doesn't matter anyway.

1013
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:05.319
What at Al Jazeera broadcast very interesting
to break that all down and to

1014
01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:10.880
watch the reactions that emerge, not
just on social media and people being keyboard

1015
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:15.119
commandos, but people take into the
streets. This is a highly volatile issue.

1016
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.840
And I say, as with any
militarized conflict of any sort or any

1017
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:26.920
action where violence is in play and
is ongoing, guess what happens. You

1018
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.279
won't be able to sort it out
in real time no matter what, even

1019
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:33.079
if you're monitoring it by a video
and you think you have the best sources.

1020
01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:38.000
I gotta tell you that's the way
I see it. It is impossible

1021
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:40.800
to sort out a lot of what
the truth is, a lot of what

1022
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:45.000
the responsibility is. I mean,
even with today's announcements of released hostages,

1023
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:50.680
right, there are some Americans that
were supposedly released that were hostages. Is

1024
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:55.720
that even the truth? Who would
not use that in the midst of this

1025
01:13:55.880 --> 01:14:00.640
conflict for the purposes of propaganda,
for the purposes of scoring political points Hamas,

1026
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:06.920
You know the argument HAMAS wants to
seem like a humanitarian organization. Well,

1027
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:10.560
I'm sure that would be a lot
better than me being called terrorists.

1028
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:13.600
So if they can twist the narrative
to their direction, sure of course they

1029
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.000
will. And the Israelis don't want
to come off as yeah, we just

1030
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:20.880
sorry it happens, we have to
bomb women and children. Nobody wants to

1031
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:26.199
do these things, so obviously they're
gonna give you different spins. Are you

1032
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:28.800
gonna get the reality of it right
away? No, The first thing you're

1033
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:32.159
gonna get is the media's order of
the day, which we know what that

1034
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:36.640
is in general terms. At this
moment, we know exactly what the unified

1035
01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:43.399
opinion is supposed to be. Is
it really the truth? That is yet

1036
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:48.439
another issue? Is it further away
from the truth only because they're underreporting certain

1037
01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:53.800
things that may be true as well? If you think you're getting an honest

1038
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.880
snapshot, an honest evaluation of any
of this stuff as it's happening, telling

1039
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:00.680
you, I want to know what
your source because I don't think it's possible

1040
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:03.840
to get it from a distance at
all. And even if you are on

1041
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.800
the ground there and trying to keep
you know, your head from getting blown

1042
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:11.560
off, et cetera, I still
think your perspective would not be accurate.

1043
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:16.960
This is going to take after action
examinations and a lot of things that cannot

1044
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:21.560
be known in the midst of a
circumstance like that. Anyway, That's why

1045
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:25.520
I think it's interesting to break down
that show. But again, info at

1046
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.439
ochelly dot com, email me there
and tell me if you think that podcast

1047
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.680
should be released, you know,
I'll release it in a couple of parts

1048
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:36.159
four hours as is, or if
you want the commentary, the questions we

1049
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:40.439
should be asking, and the things
where you know, like, look,

1050
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:45.800
that's clearly sort of a pre programmed
response that is being put out there by

1051
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:50.640
the speaker, sometimes even me.
Anyway, I think Harlan I would have

1052
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:54.399
to leave out of that. But
he's on the line now, and hopefully

1053
01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:57.720
some other people will be. But
we do have Harlan Advance on the line,

1054
01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.840
and I want to give be Pede
a chance to say something here.

1055
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.439
But also I want to get back
to the call. So three one nine

1056
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.960
five two seven five zero one six, join us and be heard about anything

1057
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.319
you want. Let's be open about
it. Whatever you think is important to

1058
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:15.279
get to the condition on planet Earth, or the things in the news,

1059
01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:18.399
or current events if they are actually
current. Hell, you want to discuss

1060
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.600
some history, we can do that
too. I enjoyed my conversation about FDR

1061
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:28.039
earlier in the week, and uh, you know, interesting thought that when

1062
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:31.520
it comes to civil rights issues and
freedom of speech, that Professor Bato thinks

1063
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:38.239
that FDR may indeed be worse than
Woodrow Wilson that's a tall order. And

1064
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:42.640
Woodrow Wilson would be a president from
New Jersey who was also a corrupt and

1065
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:46.560
you know, one of the worst
presidents in history is FDR one of the

1066
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:49.840
worst presidents in history if you ask
the general American pri you know, just

1067
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:55.319
random American not not necessarily if they
have any idea who the hell he even

1068
01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:58.640
is anymore. Anyway, enough of
that, be Pete. Anything you want

1069
01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:01.800
to throw in before I go back
to the call, Well, yeah,

1070
01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:05.560
I'm just I don't know, a
little confused on your on your comments about

1071
01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:10.520
last week's show and that. I
mean, if if everybody was speaking from

1072
01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:16.239
a prepackaged opinion, then there's really
no point in discussing anything. There is

1073
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:23.119
no truth using your description. No
matter who you listen to, there's always

1074
01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:27.640
an agenda in there. So I
mean, what's the point of discussing anything

1075
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.840
if we can't get to what the
discussion, what the brass tacks are?

1076
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:33.880
I mean, yeah, there was
a lot of stuff said in four hours

1077
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:38.319
last week. I don't think anybody
was as a group, was, you

1078
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:44.039
know, to be faulted for speaking
a prepackaged opinion on that. I really

1079
01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:46.479
find I'm on here to get my
opinion, give whatever facts I can and

1080
01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:51.039
put a discussion in context. But
I mean, if it's no better than

1081
01:17:51.079 --> 01:17:55.600
the end result the way you described
it, then you know what's the point?

1082
01:17:56.239 --> 01:18:00.199
Well, look, if you're going
to think out loud and you have

1083
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:05.760
come to conclusions on your own,
that's one thing. But when it's clearly

1084
01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:12.119
not something where you consider anything else
outside of certain things, it's another.

1085
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:16.399
You know what I mean, Like, if you wanted to just hear the

1086
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:23.079
absolutely scripted stuff, well we don't
need to do that. I mean,

1087
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:27.359
you guys can that's fully within your
right if you think that is fully your

1088
01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:30.560
own opinion. But I gotta tell
you, when I'm hearing that, it's

1089
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:36.600
like, well there's no way to
consider anything else. That to me needs

1090
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:40.920
to be pointed out where it's like, look, there's no consideration of anything

1091
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.520
else. This is one of those
topics where here we go, that's where

1092
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:47.880
it goes. I mean, don't
you think that there should be some thought

1093
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:55.000
incumbent upon somebody before they state that
this is their absolute position about these anything?

1094
01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.640
Really? I mean? Or should
they just Okay, I found an

1095
01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:00.079
authority that gives me a story,
and that should be the one that I

1096
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:04.199
relate. I mean that to me
seems to be a different process from somebody

1097
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:09.800
thinking on their own being an independent
minded person. What do you think about

1098
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:13.960
that, Well, it depends on
the values that you put into things.

1099
01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:18.479
I mean, you can take any
topic of discussion and have an opinion based

1100
01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:24.319
on things that you've read or learned
in the past, and you can learn

1101
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:28.640
something new which might change your opinion. But it doesn't necessarily mean that somebody

1102
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.359
has found some scripted narrative that they're
going to stick to because that's the one

1103
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:38.199
that fits their personal bias closest.
There were a lot of positions stated by

1104
01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:42.680
people last week that yeah, they
took things into consideration. The problem is

1105
01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:45.720
is when you take things into consideration
the value that you give them. And

1106
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:51.000
if I have five sources of information
and I discount two of them because I

1107
01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:57.159
consider the source or consider the agenda
behind the source, you know, that's

1108
01:19:57.239 --> 01:20:00.560
my personal decision as to which ones
I put a give importance to, which

1109
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.359
ones I put to the top of
the list. Sure, and that's any

1110
01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.880
individual is going to do that.
Sure, And what you're hearing is a

1111
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:14.039
discussion of individuals that have made their
own decisions based off giving certain emphasis to

1112
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:17.439
certain criteria over others. I mean, that's the whole process any kind of

1113
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:23.079
discussion on any subject, right,
but from cal Farts to the Middle East.

1114
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:27.239
Now, fair enough. But the
thing is, if you limit what

1115
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:32.600
it is that you're even okay,
Like, I'll give you this. There

1116
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:36.560
was a point at which you and
I were having this discussion about whether an

1117
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:42.319
area is occupied or not. Right, a territory is an occupied territory.

1118
01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:45.319
Well, it depends on your definition, okay, But here's the thing I

1119
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:48.399
can tell you. Look, I've
got fifteen sources that a lot of people

1120
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:51.520
would find to be reputable and would
be these people that are you know,

1121
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:57.199
publicly as far as we know,
studying these things and keeping a watch on

1122
01:20:57.319 --> 01:21:01.600
the way certain world events uncovered themselves, so on and so forth. And

1123
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.600
you can just say, well,
that's just not true, that's it all

1124
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:09.560
right, Well I want to point
that out, that that's what's going on

1125
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:12.399
here. It's like, if that's
the way, it is, fine.

1126
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:15.039
And I was even saying to you, yeah, they say they turned over

1127
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:19.399
the Gaza strip to them, and
in a way they did. But when

1128
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:24.479
you take a look at the way
certain things were done and the continuous action

1129
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:31.800
that's occurred across this area that we
call Palestine. Are they really being governed

1130
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:40.159
by anything at this point outside of
the outside agitation and another political group which

1131
01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:45.039
is clearly again outside agitation, because
it's not the people there that are funding

1132
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:48.880
say Hamas, right, I mean, they're clearly not in a position to

1133
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:55.680
fund Hamas. They clearly must have
a lot of funding because the rockets seem

1134
01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:58.680
to be unending, the amount of
rockets they're able to get in there.

1135
01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:02.640
And it's strange because they've got a
closed up border Egypt. They've got you

1136
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:06.720
know, a blockade over the ocean, you know, the ocean entrance to

1137
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:12.399
the land. The other border is
Israel, so Israel, i know,

1138
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:17.760
utilizes various things to control that border. So you've got an area that's locked

1139
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:25.960
up pretty tight should be, and
that has to have an effect on exactly

1140
01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:30.800
how much self determination those people have, So whether it's occupied or not,

1141
01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:34.279
and whether there was a strip of
land here claimed or strip of land there

1142
01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:39.399
claimed, and then that's no longer
their land, so therefore we're not occupying

1143
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:45.039
it. It's just ours that's occurred
over time too, right, well,

1144
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:48.039
true, true, But in that
respect, I mean, if you want

1145
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:50.920
to talk about, let's talk,
you know, specifically about Goza, because

1146
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:55.520
that was your example. Yeah,
you know, after the nineteen forty eight

1147
01:22:55.640 --> 01:23:00.680
war, that area was actually occupied. It was occupied by Egypt. The

1148
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:04.760
West Bank was occupied by Jordan,
and those areas were eventually given from those

1149
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:11.279
entities. See, we don't talk
about that occupation. When Egypt gave the

1150
01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:19.039
area back to Israel, the occupation
was over. It's a second occupation that

1151
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:23.920
we're claiming now, which is since
two thousand and five, has not been

1152
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:27.880
an occupation. It's an autonomous region
that's allowed to govern itself and they elected

1153
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:33.279
Omas and now they're reaping the rewards
from that effort. The West Bank,

1154
01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:36.359
you've got the same thing. You've
got the Palestindian Authority that's over the West

1155
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:44.079
Bank areas that have been deemed their
areas to control, and they run the

1156
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:48.399
show. Supposed to be. When
we're talking about occupation, let's talk when

1157
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.720
you want to talk to the original
occupation or when it was let go and

1158
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:57.199
given back to Israel, which was
the area designated to be given as the

1159
01:23:57.279 --> 01:24:00.960
Jewish homeland. I mean, that's
what I'm saying. Any aspect of this

1160
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.680
that we discussed and you have to
keep going back to the before that.

1161
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:06.000
Well book up before that, butook
book before that, and eventually we're back

1162
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:11.279
when they invented dirt. No,
of course, that's that's why that that's

1163
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.239
a problematic thing to do. What
I'm trying to say is if you take

1164
01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:17.319
a look at the circumstances, now, what led to those circumstances, what

1165
01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:20.199
preceded that, And if you take
a look at, you know, the

1166
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:25.399
previous ten years or so, that
gives you an idea. And yeah,

1167
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:28.079
it's supposed to have been handed back
in two thousand and five, but what

1168
01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:31.399
did that actually entail? What did
that actually mean? Not just oh okay,

1169
01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:36.079
it was given back to them.
What went on there? Because this

1170
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:41.239
to me is not they were just
a fully autonomous area. They were not

1171
01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:44.960
able to be They didn't have freedom
of movement, They didn't have the ability

1172
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:47.560
to do a lot of things.
And they had freedom of a movement anywhere

1173
01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:50.560
within their area. Well, I
mean, they had their own government,

1174
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:57.920
they elected their own government. And
then when they had the initial setup of

1175
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:01.279
the government was in one direction than
they had open elections and Hamas won and

1176
01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:08.239
then Hamas turned around within the next
year and forced out the Palestinian authority and

1177
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:14.520
told the Palestinian authority, we rule
Gaza. We represent Palestinians all throughout this

1178
01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:19.239
area. You guys are irrelevant.
So because of internal fighting amongst the Palestinian

1179
01:25:19.399 --> 01:25:24.680
organizations, you end up with the
Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Hamas

1180
01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:29.000
is running Gaza. Well, that's
what happened. Didn't happen in a vacuum

1181
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:31.920
though, Okay, That's that's my
point about it, is that you got

1182
01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:38.520
outside agitation here from various directions.
I'm not pointing all of it at Israel,

1183
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:43.359
even I'm saying that there's outside agitation
using this area. And at the

1184
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:46.319
end of the day, you still
have a whole lot of people that I

1185
01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:50.960
guarantee don't want any part of this, that are going to be caught up

1186
01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:54.000
in it. It's just like you
know, okay, they sent them to

1187
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:57.560
a safe area. And that's why
I made and that's why I made the

1188
01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:00.479
comment that you know, we were
talking about right to this. If Israel

1189
01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:05.520
did not exist the way it was, you would simply have infighting among different

1190
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:11.119
Arab factions from Syria all the way
down to Saudi Arabia. That's the way

1191
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:15.039
it was. When the automans oversaw
it. I mean, it's been a

1192
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:20.640
constant area of battle since it was
created, right, So I'm going to

1193
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:24.039
get back to the callers. Like
I said, I invite you guys to

1194
01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:27.600
come on in and you know,
do send me your comments about what you

1195
01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:30.359
think should be done with that four
hour podcast, what I should do with

1196
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:35.560
it, and that's that's where I'm
proceeding with it. So you guys let

1197
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:38.880
me know if I should just put
it out. I'll put it out,

1198
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:42.600
but I don't feel good about it. It does not seem to have been

1199
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:45.159
a productive thing. And I'm clearly
hearing a whole lot of stuff, and

1200
01:26:45.239 --> 01:26:49.600
stuff was pointed out to me where
it's like, yeah, there's no discussion

1201
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:53.880
on this, it's just this is
the way this is. And I'm like,

1202
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:56.720
okay, well, yeah, I
get it. And they presented to

1203
01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:59.159
me a few other things, and
I'm not saying I agree with their point

1204
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:05.359
of view because one person was clearly, you know, all about everybody's innocent

1205
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:12.239
on the anybody who's opposed to Israel
is basically innocent, which is not a

1206
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.279
valid point of view in my mind. Here's a suggestion, Yeah, here's

1207
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:19.560
a suggestion. Bring the podcast back, and we can do this on a

1208
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:24.960
series of fridays. Bring the podcast
back, we can play the clips from

1209
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:29.000
it, and you can have the
people who are criticizing this and critiquing this

1210
01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:32.920
on to defend their positions against the
individuals who were involved in that podcast.

1211
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:36.520
And I think that would be great
entertainment. There you go, there's a

1212
01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:41.359
perfect idea. Open and let me
know. I agree with B Pete's idea.

1213
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:43.359
That's all you have to send to
me. How about it's only going

1214
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:47.199
to work. It's only going to
work if those people that contacted you or

1215
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:51.199
who heard this and want to give
you their critique are willing to stand up

1216
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:56.119
and verbally express their ideas as well. I mean, it's one thing to

1217
01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:58.680
sit back and write an email to
somebody. Oh I listened to this and

1218
01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:00.840
I didn't agree with this. This
guy was one sided and this guy was

1219
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:04.960
completely irrelevant and blah blah blah blah
blah. Okay, put up or shut

1220
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:08.119
up. Yeah, I mean that's
been my whole point about the call in

1221
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:11.239
show from the beginning. You got
to complaint. Bring it on air.

1222
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:13.039
Oh, I know, the only
way we're going to get a settled.

1223
01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:15.840
But see This isn't about a debate
though. This is about pointing out this

1224
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:19.640
is just factually wrong. And you
know, and this part is factually wrong.

1225
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:24.399
And even the clip that I played
from Oh what's that guy's name?

1226
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:27.279
I forget his name, but the
guy who's a brilliant scientist but has his

1227
01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:30.479
point of view on Israel, that
clip's played from Vance. You know,

1228
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.159
again, they were just saying,
look, here's a fact that just makes

1229
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:40.239
this wrong. Uh, it's not
a matter of here's the premise that is

1230
01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:45.720
wrong with this person's thing. They're
saying, and nobody's telling I'll go ahead

1231
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:47.680
and put it out there. If
somebody's got a problem with anything I've said

1232
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:50.640
at being factually wrong, let them
come and explain it to me and we'll

1233
01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:54.760
see if I'm right or not.
Not no problem, then my statements against

1234
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:58.319
anybody, no problem. But I
mean just saying this is where you know,

1235
01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:01.199
factually there should have been some opposition
offered here, and there wasn't,

1236
01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:08.399
So I get it. But nobody
offered opposition because basically it was you know,

1237
01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:14.159
there was no opposition offered. I'll
just leave it at that. But

1238
01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:17.239
the thing is that would there be
other things to consider here? Where there

1239
01:29:17.279 --> 01:29:23.319
were factual misstatements about the premises.
Yeah, probably, and I think that

1240
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:27.239
happens all the time. But anyway, but there you have it, So

1241
01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:30.479
be Pete's idea. Sure, have
somebody come on and sit there and address

1242
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.359
each piece of it, Okay,
And we could do it in a series.

1243
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:36.680
Obviously, we would plan that series
for after November, and I'd like

1244
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:40.039
to have it planned out so that
it actually gets done. Hell, I'll

1245
01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:42.199
add an extra hour to the show
if you want. We could do it

1246
01:29:42.279 --> 01:29:45.079
for an hour and then go on
to the regular show or the other way

1247
01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:48.720
around, do it at the end
something like that. I'm willing to,

1248
01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:51.159
you know, I'm willing to mess
with the format to get it done.

1249
01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:56.640
But I think it's an interesting thing
to do. And I didn't feel good

1250
01:29:56.680 --> 01:30:00.560
about that show at all, with
the way it went all. But anyway,

1251
01:30:01.880 --> 01:30:04.199
by all means join into this one, and I want to get back

1252
01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:06.920
around. So let's see who was
first. It was Harlan first, right,

1253
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:12.520
sure? Yes? Three one nine, five, two seven, five

1254
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:15.720
zero one six. By the way, Harlan got you back around, I'm

1255
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:18.199
sure you heard a lot of things. Got no idea where you're at,

1256
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:24.239
And hopefully you didn't go to uh
what the uh the waffle house in between?

1257
01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:30.520
So how you doing that? There's
no waffle house, Ray Conda.

1258
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:36.520
Ah, Okay, didn't know you
were in Colorado. But I want a

1259
01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:43.479
jab in real quick. First of
all, since they mentioned the bat North

1260
01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:50.800
Carolina and their agriculture, I'm actually
just a real big slash Christie from North

1261
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:59.600
Carolina. Real quick farms that's pretty
good. And the state guys, I

1262
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:05.800
would say it is a new Vampshire. That's well. Guard goes. Okay,

1263
01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:10.520
they've been all on the stasion up. We're out for years. You

1264
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:13.760
know, it's been a gammicks down
in Texas far back to that, remember

1265
01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:20.000
it. I ain't never gonna have
list right. A few years back,

1266
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:25.119
I was a guest on the Republic
of Texas radio show, actually, uh,

1267
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:28.000
discussing the topic. I have no
idea why the hell they brought me

1268
01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:30.600
to do it, but uh,
but there it was. And then they

1269
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.560
then they had me back to discuss
the JFK stuff, which I'm like,

1270
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.920
well, at least I know a
lot more about that, thanks, But

1271
01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:41.119
yeah, they just invited me on. I was on one of those shows

1272
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.079
years ago. I probably could dig
it out of the archives and re release

1273
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:47.640
it. Anyways, what else on
your mind? Are they? Well,

1274
01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:54.640
I had, uh one quick thing
about the Texas succession. I've actually thought

1275
01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:58.439
about buying, you know, back
in the day years ago, just buying

1276
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:02.039
you know, chunk of but cheap
property out well, back when he was

1277
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.520
cheap out in the West Texas s
deansre Way, just in case, you

1278
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:10.079
know, I might give you citizenship, you know what I mean. But

1279
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:14.880
uh, but you know, there
again, you know, we could do

1280
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:17.279
a whole show on that sometimes,
especially if Fast wanting to. But there

1281
01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:21.079
again, you know, I've heard
it talk. Let's let's see it walk.

1282
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:26.720
I mean, I said a few
things that that's gonna stop it momentarily,

1283
01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:31.279
know basically, but I think it
over go anywhere. Uh as far

1284
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:35.600
as I'm gonna kind of go down
the list here what I remember, uh

1285
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:40.600
far as Jesse Vancier. You know, I'm I'm not gonna shit on Jesse

1286
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:43.359
and I'm not gonna you know,
throw him under the bus or anything.

1287
01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:46.000
But you know, he's he's just
trying to get some attention. You know,

1288
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:50.239
he's you know, part of the
new show. He swapped his gimmick

1289
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:53.720
couple a little bit. I've watched
a lot of stuff over the years,

1290
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:57.079
and you know, I like,
you know, he'll he'll get a little

1291
01:32:57.119 --> 01:33:01.880
slideways here and there. But as
Jim Jordan goes, well, you know,

1292
01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:08.039
and a lot of these other people
was pushing Kevin McCarthy, you know,

1293
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:13.680
back at first of the year and
right after the mid terms, you

1294
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:17.319
know, and even before you had
everybody that was sick of McCarthy that you

1295
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:23.840
know, let's go another direction when
you know, before everybody got rallied back

1296
01:33:23.880 --> 01:33:28.880
around the chosen one, when they
started charging him about all these crimes and

1297
01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:31.039
that in which you know I've said
when I said, again, I can't

1298
01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:35.720
stand him. But most of it
looks like alfare to me, not all

1299
01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:40.479
of it. But anyway, you
know, it just is what it is.

1300
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:43.600
And that's the reason why you know, you may say, you know

1301
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:48.079
conservatives, you know Connors in their
name, because you know it's the same

1302
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:53.039
old shits. I mean, I
don't know if this is some kind of

1303
01:33:53.119 --> 01:33:58.439
seniority deal or you know, or
whatever, but I'm won't try to keep

1304
01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.840
it clean. But you know who
MyD have done whatever kind of favors for.

1305
01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:04.720
I mean, I don't understand,
I mean, how in the hell

1306
01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:11.680
does he represents so called Red state
of America even you know this this fake

1307
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:17.560
Red State of America, the propaganda
red state were but I ain't even been

1308
01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:23.199
keeping up with it because is it
gonna matter? And then Jim Jordan on

1309
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:28.560
top of it, you know,
he makes some good sound bites, but

1310
01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:33.079
there again, listen to the previous
five minutes and you know, the four

1311
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:38.319
or five minutes after those sound bites, go looking at other things that he

1312
01:34:38.479 --> 01:34:42.640
says, and he's done and stuff
he felled. I mean, I'm not

1313
01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:46.960
really impressed by him, you know. I mean he probably wouldn't be impressed

1314
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:50.000
to me, but I mean,
just that squeaky ass, you know,

1315
01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:55.680
hateful, you know, powa hungry
bullshit. He goes on with that,

1316
01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:00.279
just don't doesn't trip my trigger and
then whatever comes out here. Did you

1317
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:05.199
watch any of the committee hearings that
he was the chair chair over regarding the

1318
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:14.640
Judiciary Committee recently. I saw just
a few less than thirty seconds here and

1319
01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:17.920
there, because there again, you
know, show me something. All that

1320
01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:21.640
we see is you know, they'll
get up, you know, and they

1321
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:25.159
get everybody flowered up. And now
I want to go out here, and

1322
01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:31.920
I'm like the best examples I can
excuse. It's like all this Johnny Come

1323
01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:40.199
Lately about in the atl and you
know in this in that you know,

1324
01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:45.760
defund FBI, blah blah blah,
bullshit, it's not going to happen.

1325
01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:53.439
You know, that is just bullshit. That's just them basically just gasl like

1326
01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:58.399
just tease me. That is total
bullshit. You know, you couldn't even

1327
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:00.920
get Republicans that do so. I'm
f it's arm brass gimmick. When they

1328
01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:08.920
had full control of all three branches
of the governments, full control, and

1329
01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:12.560
you couldn't even get them to say, oh yeah, yeah, they've been

1330
01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.239
millions of the sold you know,
I'm glad I never bought one. But

1331
01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:19.520
I mean, who can really sit
back and really believe in this stuff.

1332
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:25.000
I saw an article other they didn't
read all of it, but the headline

1333
01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:30.720
was how the Republican Party was in
runs. I can't disagree with that because

1334
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:36.079
I've said that for at least three
and a half four years. I mean,

1335
01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:41.960
it's like you've got the left,
which is the Republicans, and you've

1336
01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:46.600
got the hard left, which you
know is most immigrants and three quarters of

1337
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:53.920
the so called GOP. I mean, it's just I don't know how to

1338
01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:58.359
say it any other way, is
just sitting here to seeing people just bullshit

1339
01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:04.600
drifting boat Grifton, you know,
donations and I think there's well meaning people

1340
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:10.000
that has some principles, but I
don't think they're going to get that burn

1341
01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:14.239
in front of me. It seems
to me like the people that get attention.

1342
01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:15.840
I mean, maybe it's just me
and maybe it's just you two,

1343
01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:19.760
the people that are really getting any
attention, or just those that are making

1344
01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:25.800
sound bites, uh and and and
fundraising. I mean, that's that's who's

1345
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:30.079
winning when it comes to politics in
general at this point, whether it's the

1346
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:32.760
GOP or it's the DNC. Uh. If you're able to make the sound

1347
01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:36.960
bites and you're able to fundraise,
you get to win. Some weird thing,

1348
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:40.560
though, is that you would have
thought that Jordan might have as sended

1349
01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:45.600
to the speaker chair, but he
had what twenty against him in the first

1350
01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:47.159
vote, and I think they've tried
what is the two or three times?

1351
01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:51.760
How many times has Jordan tried BPG? Are you do you remember? Is

1352
01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:56.640
the two or three they had?
They had the third vote today and he

1353
01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.600
lost my twenty five shorts. So
We started out twenty and then the next

1354
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.800
vote it was twenty two or twenty
one, and then this one was twenty

1355
01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:08.800
five that didn't vote for him.
See I almost wonder this one, Harlan,

1356
01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:12.800
if somebody really had balls on the
on the you know, Republican side,

1357
01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:16.720
they would switch their vote in public
to Jeffries and be like, you

1358
01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:21.159
know what, you don't knock it
off, you don't get your your crap

1359
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:26.960
together here and give us a real, you know, a real workable situation.

1360
01:38:28.119 --> 01:38:32.720
We'll just go ahead and give that
speakership to the Democrats temporarily, you

1361
01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:36.800
know, like just threaten them with
it, not necessarily do it, but

1362
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:40.640
threaten him with it, like two
or three of those guys when he's twenty

1363
01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:44.800
five short and Jeffries is, you
know, also short, two or three

1364
01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:48.960
votes strategically handed over to the Democrats. That would make brand new headlines for

1365
01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:53.920
some of these guys whose names have
gotten forgotten, and they might be able

1366
01:38:53.960 --> 01:38:57.640
to get out there and make a
point about this, Oh why did you

1367
01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:00.840
switch sides and go to the other
side of the aisle, And literally they

1368
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.800
could come out and say, because
our side is so dysfunctional, we have

1369
01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:09.399
to have something functional even if I
don't agree with it. I mean,

1370
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:14.279
that would has been the problem with
Republicans, You can't They never have a

1371
01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:20.319
plan. Look at Obamacare, all
right, Obamacare got approved, they waited

1372
01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:25.479
it out. They kept saying repealing
and replace, repealing and plate and replace.

1373
01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:30.319
But the one time that they actually
had the ability to vote down Obamacare,

1374
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:38.119
what happened. That's when McCain walked
in and gave the thumbs up signal,

1375
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.800
you know, as if he was
Julius Caesar. And when they asked

1376
01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:45.680
him why he voted for to keep
Obamacare, what was his response? Well,

1377
01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:48.000
if you're going to repeal and replace, you got to replace it with

1378
01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:53.159
something. And they didn't have a
plan. Republicans went how many years without

1379
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:58.560
a plan to replace Obamacare? But
yet that was the big number one thing.

1380
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:00.439
We got to get rid of this
in the economy. It controls a

1381
01:40:00.520 --> 01:40:04.119
certain percentage of everybody's wealth. We've
got to do away with it, but

1382
01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:08.199
didn't have anything to replace it.
Well, now they're in that same situation.

1383
01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:13.119
You had what eight members decided to
vote out McCarthy because they felt like

1384
01:40:13.279 --> 01:40:16.359
McCarthy lied to them. That's one
of the things that I heard attributed to

1385
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:19.279
Gates. You know, he said
he was going to have these budgets up

1386
01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:24.640
here, these spending bills, ready
to be voted on. The thing that

1387
01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:28.279
Gabs didn't tell you was is they
couldn't get the spending bills out of committee,

1388
01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:30.720
right, and if it doesn't come
out of committee, you can't put

1389
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:32.800
it on the floor to vote.
But that's something that you didn't hear out

1390
01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:35.720
there. It's just Gates up there
running his mouth. So you had eight

1391
01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:43.159
Republicans decide to pull the rugout from
Honor McCarthy for basically for personal reasons.

1392
01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:47.840
It was a bunch of personal vendettas
that has been going on in Simmering for

1393
01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:50.960
a couple of years. Well,
now there's the problem. You voted to

1394
01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:54.159
get rid of them. Now,
how are you going to vote to get

1395
01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:59.119
somebody in? It took fifteen ballots
to get him accepted. What are you

1396
01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:01.760
going to do now? And that's
been the problem with the Republicans since back

1397
01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:05.640
in the fifties. They don't have
a damn plan for anything. I guess

1398
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:11.199
the last good plan on the Republicans
is when Nixon took the South when he

1399
01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:14.199
ran for election. Yeah, fair
enough. Other than that, they haven't

1400
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:16.039
had a plan since then for anything. See, but that's been the case.

1401
01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:20.760
Dysfunctional now exactly, that's the consistent
problem. And I tried to have

1402
01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:24.800
this discussion with somebody earlier and they
didn't understand it. And I said,

1403
01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:28.039
here's the problem. Okay, fine, you want to take this out.

1404
01:41:28.119 --> 01:41:30.000
You want to get rid of this
guy, you want to get rid of

1405
01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:34.239
Obamacare. Okay, fine, what
do you have to put in its place?

1406
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:39.439
That ridiculous thing that they offered?
Right? Remember that whole Oh we

1407
01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:43.520
have a plan, it's great.
It was nothing. See, here's the

1408
01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:45.119
thing. We want to get rid
of the speaker. We don't have a

1409
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.640
plan to go forward after that.
We're just going to take stuff down and

1410
01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:55.640
score points. And that's what's going
on, and telling you it works the

1411
01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:58.680
other way too. It's just that
they're not in power at the moment when

1412
01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:01.680
it comes to the House. They're
just not so they can know. Because

1413
01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:05.399
when they were in power, they
had someone like Mitch McConnell on the Republican

1414
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:09.960
side that would bend over backwards and
kiss their butt. They didn't need to

1415
01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:14.840
have a plan. They knew they
could get the mcconnald to fold. That's

1416
01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:17.399
you got to. As much as
I hate a Democrat, and I'm sorry,

1417
01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:21.239
I think that they're playing on the
world, but you got to give

1418
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:25.720
them credit. When they come up
with a way of doing something, they

1419
01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:30.000
stick together. There is unity there. The Republicans have been disjointed since what

1420
01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:35.640
the early sixties after Nixon, they
fell apart. Nobody could come up,

1421
01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:41.279
nobody could agree on anything, and
these moderate Republicans and that's why I'm I

1422
01:42:41.399 --> 01:42:45.960
don't. I've never considered myself a
Republican. I've never you know, I've

1423
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.600
never followed along with their ideology because
it's too what's a moderate Republican. A

1424
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:55.840
moderate Republican is a liberal. It's
funny because they're so screwed up now within

1425
01:42:55.960 --> 01:43:00.239
their party. There's no conservatives left
in the Republican Party. It's a missmansh

1426
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:04.960
of mediocre, middle of the road
people with no clue and can't come up

1427
01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:09.760
with an independent thought and get anybody
to get behind them and convince people that

1428
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:12.760
it might be a good way to
do it. What I feel ridiculous.

1429
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:15.960
What I find really bizarre about what
you just said and your opinion is that

1430
01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:23.239
I see the circular firing squad every
time the Democrats get an opportunity to actually

1431
01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:27.319
accomplish something. They go after each
other. I don't see unification. Yes

1432
01:43:27.399 --> 01:43:32.079
they do, but in the long
run, when it comes to them versus

1433
01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:38.039
the other side, they coalesce.
Now they yeah, they shoot each other

1434
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:41.359
in the foot, left and right, but at the end of the day,

1435
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.039
they all stand there with they're wounded
feet, with their arms around each

1436
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:49.399
other's shoulders saying, okay, send
the next Republican all over. You know.

1437
01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:53.920
See it's funny. It's like a
case of Red Rover. They keep

1438
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:56.560
a team, work together. You
got to give the Democrats credit for that.

1439
01:43:56.760 --> 01:43:58.960
They do work as a team.
See what's hilarious. I don't give

1440
01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:00.600
them credit for that, because what's
hilarious to me is that I see it

1441
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:05.199
exactly the opposite. Usually, the
Republicans stick together, but they don't ever

1442
01:44:05.479 --> 01:44:10.920
have what comes next. They stick
together just fine. They will stick together

1443
01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.800
for stuff regardless of what's going on. They don't shoot each other in the

1444
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:17.720
foot usually, but they never have
a plan for what's next. This to

1445
01:44:17.840 --> 01:44:21.079
me is the first time that I'm
really saying that they break it down like

1446
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:25.960
this and are doing a Democrat dance
where it's like we're just going to become

1447
01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:30.520
completely unproductive. We're gonna get zero
done now, you know, Well,

1448
01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:33.119
like you got to look at it
this way. When they're not getting anything

1449
01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:38.960
done in Congress, your pocketbook is
much better off. Okay, But anyway,

1450
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:41.680
Harlan, you just heard us go
back and forth. What do you

1451
01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:44.199
got to say to that? Before
I go to vance and check the lines

1452
01:44:44.199 --> 01:44:48.399
again, I've got plenty to say. Sure, go ahead. First of

1453
01:44:48.439 --> 01:44:55.520
all, I agree, okay,
they that they never have a plan a

1454
01:44:55.560 --> 01:45:02.000
lot, and that's because they're not
looking for it. Uh, you agree

1455
01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:05.800
with both of us very well,
Yeah, you agree with both of us.

1456
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:09.680
You agree with both of us in
that case, because that's one thing

1457
01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:13.039
him and I agree on. They
don't have a plan for what's next.

1458
01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:16.479
They never do that. That's that's
been the case now for at least twenty

1459
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:20.800
five years, I think since uh, since Gingritz was out of the equation.

1460
01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:27.119
Right. They they basically don't have
what's next. They they have what

1461
01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:30.800
they want to do right now.
But yeah, go ahead, Well what

1462
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:34.079
it is? They a plan,
but they don't have a plan like what

1463
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:40.119
they peace? Okay, the plan
is and you know I've been I've been

1464
01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:44.680
a live long enough now that you
know alone looking back, you know years

1465
01:45:44.720 --> 01:45:48.920
in the past. The plan is
is the griff monty, Uh, that's

1466
01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:55.239
the plan. Okay, and you
know, I'll they respect they paying you

1467
01:45:55.359 --> 01:46:01.760
and everybody else listening if you cannot
say how fixed that the majority of this

1468
01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:06.199
is You're not going to see it
in five more years. You're not going

1469
01:46:06.279 --> 01:46:13.359
to see it in ten because they've
been too many times. It's like go

1470
01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:17.720
back to twenty eighteen, okay,
okay, when they took a bath during

1471
01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:21.800
the midtim you know, back you
know, after you know, everybody had

1472
01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:26.399
had, you know about a year
of trust to plan for their chest and

1473
01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:30.680
it was obvious that you know,
Trump was bullshit and he wasn't even done

1474
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:36.279
nothing but the fur run in his
mouth. They still had from election day

1475
01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:42.159
on end of January. They could
have went to chamlenge stuff through like this

1476
01:46:42.359 --> 01:46:46.520
voter frut Stappit's just like the deal
with the We've talked about this before a

1477
01:46:46.600 --> 01:46:51.800
couple of months ago. Back to
Obamacare. They voted seventy two times to

1478
01:46:53.520 --> 01:47:00.319
repeal and kill Obamacare when Obama's present. As soon as Trump gets their kill,

1479
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:05.079
ain't even his plumb out of its
repeal and replace. And now you've

1480
01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:12.600
still got some that's I hear grifting
and trading and electioneering about how they're one

1481
01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:15.720
of you know, now the election
seas are starting for up some of these

1482
01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:19.279
senators of this stuff saying, oh
yeah, we're going to repeal Obamacare.

1483
01:47:20.119 --> 01:47:26.159
The Supreme Court that everybody brags up. I wish Jimmy James was here because

1484
01:47:26.359 --> 01:47:28.279
I don't want to talk about him. You know, he ain't here to

1485
01:47:28.319 --> 01:47:31.800
defend this up. With Jimmy James
and the Supreme Court. You know that

1486
01:47:31.960 --> 01:47:39.039
Trump upon it seven to three or
excuse me, seven to two. You

1487
01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:45.640
had two Republicans on the Supreme Court
ode against the individual mandate and you had

1488
01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:51.960
four go with the three lift.
So, you know, the Obamacare situation,

1489
01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:57.640
and especially since you know that there's
more than one person. I hear

1490
01:47:57.880 --> 01:48:01.319
at a saplus business that's act.
I don't know. I think you know

1491
01:48:01.680 --> 01:48:09.039
what's what talking about that because it's
overwhel I mean, how could you ever

1492
01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:14.479
when you've had, you know,
the first go around with John Roberts say

1493
01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:20.119
it was you know, kosher,
and then you come back to you know

1494
01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:25.520
here just in twenty twenty one,
they said it was kosher again for the

1495
01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:30.359
Supreme Court and it's it's great and
it's grand and blah blah blah. How

1496
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:34.359
do you go over here? But
really, the only thing else I've really

1497
01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:40.439
got to add in there I've got, you know, I hope that you

1498
01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:44.399
know, yes, that they are
some well meaning they might not be his

1499
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:46.520
hardcore's luck a lot of people you
don't want them to, but you know,

1500
01:48:47.319 --> 01:48:51.439
well meaning people just can't grab any
tracks. But I'm telling you,

1501
01:48:53.079 --> 01:48:56.319
you know, here again, where
is this red steak? You told me?

1502
01:48:56.880 --> 01:49:00.720
Where's just the basics? You know. I mean, I've heard this

1503
01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:03.760
ship all of my life, and
it looks like to me that you know,

1504
01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:08.399
the survey says, it's just a
damn life. You know, we

1505
01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:12.199
need more republic standing over here.
A p lettering is saying that, you

1506
01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:15.680
know, it's something here reading at
the baw results and they're going to be

1507
01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:20.720
negative. It's not positive, you
know. I mean, there you go.

1508
01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:24.520
That's why I look at it.
And it's just like I said,

1509
01:49:24.520 --> 01:49:27.479
I want to say one more thing, I shouldn't. It's just like I

1510
01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:31.119
said, if you must go on
this ship, my opinion, there's a

1511
01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:38.159
certain section of people on the right, Republicans or whatever, just going again.

1512
01:49:38.319 --> 01:49:42.800
Democrats you know, in general,
but not somebody you know that's Democrats

1513
01:49:42.960 --> 01:49:46.079
just got too wild or they just
wanted to come over and play Republican,

1514
01:49:46.279 --> 01:49:50.640
you know for a while. Okay, you've got those folks, but you've

1515
01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:57.520
got a hardcore section of people now
that are just like the snowflex on the

1516
01:49:57.640 --> 01:50:02.479
left that they don't want to hear
nothing but whatever conserved you mean, you

1517
01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:06.880
know where the maga folks. You
know, think there's a hardcore six of

1518
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:14.199
those in America that I just don't
think we're gonna be able to outlive unless

1519
01:50:14.279 --> 01:50:19.279
Trump loses this next election and everybody
has a big boohoo and a cry and

1520
01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:23.319
finally, you know, sobers up
like you know, of course he was

1521
01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:27.359
after the mid terms. I don't
say war the hell this is going to

1522
01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:30.760
you know what I'm saying ought to
you guys now, I hear you.

1523
01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:33.560
I'm gonna put you back on hold
so we can get back around advance.

1524
01:50:33.680 --> 01:50:39.039
But I still have in my back
pocket at the moment, despite the fact

1525
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:42.600
that Sidney Palll just pled guilty,
which we didn't even get to that story

1526
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:45.680
tonight. Maybe we'll try and touch
it real quick before we go. But

1527
01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:49.760
I mean, the more they charge
him and everything else. The more I

1528
01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:55.680
see him winning in twenty twenty four
and they're sticking with him, So I

1529
01:50:55.800 --> 01:50:59.119
got to say, there seems to
be a unification there. They've all decided

1530
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:00.920
to get around them. I went
from oh, my god, we can't

1531
01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:05.119
believe that this guy is in our
midst to well, we absolutely support President

1532
01:51:05.159 --> 01:51:11.960
Trump. I don't know what to
say about that conversion because nobody questions it.

1533
01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:15.359
It seems like to me, but
eh, again, my worldview is

1534
01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:19.439
weird. Anyway, what do you
think, be Pete, you want me

1535
01:51:19.479 --> 01:51:23.640
to get around Advance? I mean, because we're heading toward just about the

1536
01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:26.880
two hour mark, and I mean, unless we get some more callers or

1537
01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:29.920
something else happening here, I think
I might close it out pretty soon,

1538
01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:32.239
just so I can get out of
the position I'm in because my back is

1539
01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:38.039
screwed up bad. But other than
that, what do you think? Yeah,

1540
01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:41.720
go ahead and bring Vance on.
I'm curious to see what he thinks

1541
01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:45.439
about it. Well, see Vance, typical Advance. I would think he

1542
01:51:45.439 --> 01:51:46.840
would say, well, this is
a good reason as to why it is.

1543
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.399
You know, just all this crap
all needs to go, is what

1544
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:56.199
I'm thinking. But Map I don't
want to speak for you advance anything you

1545
01:51:56.279 --> 01:52:00.399
want to comment on. Well,
yes, I resemble that remark, and

1546
01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:04.439
you know that's that's been my opinion
for a long time. And well let

1547
01:52:04.479 --> 01:52:09.039
me just first start off real quick
without getting into a new bad tribe.

1548
01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:14.119
But on the Palestine Stindy and thing
and the show and all that out,

1549
01:52:14.199 --> 01:52:15.760
I'll be the first tell you,
and I should just start off any time

1550
01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:18.359
I start. You know, given
my opinion that you know, I may

1551
01:52:18.439 --> 01:52:23.319
be wrong. You know I'm not
as well studied on, you know,

1552
01:52:23.439 --> 01:52:28.880
all the ins and outs of the
history as dpts certainly, and you know

1553
01:52:29.039 --> 01:52:32.319
most of my opinions are based,
you know, basically on my own moral

1554
01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:36.399
code and what resonates you know.
Yet, like I said, I don't

1555
01:52:36.439 --> 01:52:43.640
give authority over the empires that established
all these rules and created these states in

1556
01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:46.279
this way and that way. And
you know there's you know, in my

1557
01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:50.760
opinion, you know, motives for
all that stuff. You know that you

1558
01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:56.640
know we you know, do and
don't know about and et cetera. So

1559
01:52:56.960 --> 01:53:00.680
you know, I'd be interested to
see where I'm wrong. And I admit

1560
01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:05.199
I'm not an expert on doctor Gebe
Matte or any kind of criticisms of his

1561
01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:11.600
opinions or whatever. And very rarely
do I agree one hundred percent with you

1562
01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:15.479
know, anybody on anything. So
I'll just put that caveat out there and

1563
01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:21.359
and and then get back around to
the government thing that you know that that's

1564
01:53:21.760 --> 01:53:27.399
it's just a WWE with suits and
weapons of mass destruction, okay, you

1565
01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:31.199
know in the New World Order is
just the old World Order with you know,

1566
01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:35.399
better technology and mind control. You
know, so you know, the

1567
01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:40.640
there's you know, we may be
able to, you know, if we

1568
01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:45.600
can push back on just like I'm
saying, all this agenda twenty one and

1569
01:53:45.680 --> 01:53:48.079
twenty you know, however far it
goes back and all those you know,

1570
01:53:48.399 --> 01:53:51.239
Davos and you know, all those
things, they're you know, they're on

1571
01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:56.239
record. It's not a conspiracy that
there's a group of people behind the shadows

1572
01:53:56.319 --> 01:54:00.920
that are that are that even because
they're not in the shadows shadow then you

1573
01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:03.319
think they're not you follow what I'm
saying, you know, but but they're

1574
01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:08.560
on records saying you know that you
know, they want to institute this type

1575
01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:12.560
of control. So you know we
can push back you know, here and

1576
01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:15.399
there and stand up, I mean, the right before all this stuff in

1577
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:19.600
Israel that there's demonstrations going on for
like nine months or whatever about netting Yahoo,

1578
01:54:19.720 --> 01:54:25.279
changing the government and trying to you
know, push stuff through. And

1579
01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:28.399
then now they you know, they
have an attack and now they get to

1580
01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:32.119
go to national emergency status just like
after nine to eleven here and he just

1581
01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:36.640
you know, now he's you know, he's pushing any anything through any way

1582
01:54:36.680 --> 01:54:40.920
he wants to at this point because
they've controlled that you know, state of

1583
01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:45.479
emergency that we've been under, and
you know, they'll just stay under forever.

1584
01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:48.560
Also, so you know, there's
there's no voting our way out of

1585
01:54:48.640 --> 01:54:53.760
that. We need to vote our
way into getting back to the actual principles

1586
01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:57.960
that are supposed to be, you
know, protecting our freedoms and instead of

1587
01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:00.880
you know, being able to manipulate
the commodities and you know, all the

1588
01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:05.079
human resources on the planet Earth for
a select group of people that you know,

1589
01:55:05.359 --> 01:55:13.399
apparently are too disjointed and not intelligent
enough to lead us to a better

1590
01:55:13.479 --> 01:55:16.000
solution. Because the world's a better
place, the worst place now than it

1591
01:55:16.199 --> 01:55:19.439
was when I was a kid growing
up in the sixties and seventies, and

1592
01:55:19.960 --> 01:55:25.039
and you know, so whatever they're
doing at work, and so I'm willing

1593
01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:30.520
to try anything at least twice fair
enough. Random thing I want to throw

1594
01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:32.880
in here, which I found funny
is that somebody pointed out to me recently

1595
01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:39.840
that the Rothschilds have a YouTube channel
where they show you, like, you

1596
01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:44.199
know, the opulence of their lifestyle
and what their you know, collective wealth,

1597
01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:48.119
their generational wealth has built up for
them. I found that interesting that

1598
01:55:48.239 --> 01:55:51.680
there's like a YouTube channel with like, I don't know, twenty seven thousand

1599
01:55:51.680 --> 01:55:55.680
subscribers or something. It's not even
a huge one, but it's like,

1600
01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:58.680
hey, you want to see what
Christmas looks like among really rich people?

1601
01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:04.520
Yeah, they do that on YouTube. I found that interesting that that is

1602
01:56:04.600 --> 01:56:11.359
something that exists and people actually still
admire royalty and the decrees thereof, and

1603
01:56:12.199 --> 01:56:17.119
those that were not necessarily sitting on
thrones but have control over various aspects of

1604
01:56:17.279 --> 01:56:24.800
existing institutions. It's fascinating. I
mean, just as fascinating as when they've

1605
01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:29.319
rome Yeah go ahead, let me
is throwing one little, you know,

1606
01:56:29.479 --> 01:56:33.399
clever comment. You know, I
have a good I don't know why they

1607
01:56:33.439 --> 01:56:36.239
didn't think about this long time ago, but you know, in order to

1608
01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:42.960
settle the you know, Israel Palestinian
conflict. You know, maybe they should

1609
01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:45.560
give them some you know, casinos
and liquor stores. You know, that

1610
01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:49.640
would probably calm everything down right way. Uh, you know, I've seen

1611
01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:56.720
that. I've seen that comment.
It's but no, no, but it's

1612
01:56:56.840 --> 01:56:59.640
it's, uh, yeah, I
get where you're going with it, and

1613
01:56:59.840 --> 01:57:03.000
I see what you're saying. But
I mean, really, it's like it's

1614
01:57:03.039 --> 01:57:06.239
like the Vatican channel, you know, the Vatican Channel, the Rothschild's channel.

1615
01:57:06.560 --> 01:57:10.720
You know, you can take a
look at what has generationally been collected

1616
01:57:10.960 --> 01:57:14.079
and who it is that really profits
at the end of all of this,

1617
01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:17.039
whether it's you know, just the
bloodshed of the last seventy five years,

1618
01:57:17.279 --> 01:57:20.479
or it's you know, what's gone
on for the past couple hundred you know,

1619
01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:25.880
in the case of how long this
country's existed, or it's many,

1620
01:57:26.119 --> 01:57:31.239
many centuries, right, there are
groups of individuals that have collected wealth over

1621
01:57:31.359 --> 01:57:36.000
time because they they understand the system
that most of us are not invited to

1622
01:57:36.039 --> 01:57:42.960
play in anyway. So there's that
to consider all together. Anyways, I'm

1623
01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:45.119
gonna put you back on hold and
maybe we'll do a little chaos thing at

1624
01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:47.840
the end unless somebody else wants to
join in here at the tail end of

1625
01:57:47.880 --> 01:57:51.800
the conversation three one nine five two
seven five zero one six. If not,

1626
01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:56.680
maybe I'll just open the phone lines
up and let you guys talk to

1627
01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:59.479
each other for a little bit,
see what comes to that, and then

1628
01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:04.880
close it up out be Pete.
Anything you got on your mind. No,

1629
01:58:05.159 --> 01:58:10.560
I was just scanning some headlines from
around the world, and I mean,

1630
01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:15.760
it's it's amazing how chaotic everything has
actually become. I was reading a

1631
01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:21.640
stroy here wherein or was it Venezuela? The central bank has raised their interest

1632
01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:26.960
rates to one hundred and thirty three
percent. One hundred and thirty three percent.

1633
01:58:27.159 --> 01:58:30.159
What the hell? I mean,
how can that country even function?

1634
01:58:32.279 --> 01:58:36.600
Now? Is that? Oh?
Excuse me for being ignorant, But does

1635
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:42.279
that mean if I put money into
a Venezuelan bank account like that would be

1636
01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:45.720
the interest rate I could collect?
Or is that what they're doing regarding loans

1637
01:58:45.800 --> 01:58:50.159
and things? Now? Now that's
the central bank loans. I mean they're

1638
01:58:50.319 --> 01:58:54.720
interest rate on loans from the Central
Bank of Venezuela now up to one hundred

1639
01:58:54.720 --> 01:58:58.840
and thirty three percent. I mean, you're looking at rates right, pretty

1640
01:58:58.880 --> 01:59:01.760
much in effect before Jeremy and each
finances collapsed where it takes you know,

1641
01:59:01.960 --> 01:59:04.960
a wheelbar full of money to buil
over bread. So this is violent.

1642
01:59:06.119 --> 01:59:12.560
This is Wymar Republic type moves here. So we're looking at a collapsing economic

1643
01:59:12.680 --> 01:59:16.720
situation in Venezuela, which you know
it has to come into play. It's

1644
01:59:16.760 --> 01:59:19.920
going to cause Oh I wonder if
it's going to cause a bunch of people

1645
01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:26.279
to flee that country if they can. I wonder if that's going to happen.

1646
01:59:27.039 --> 01:59:30.720
And one wonders where this idea came
from and why this is necessary.

1647
01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:32.560
I wonder how that happened. But
yeah, go ahead, what else are

1648
01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:38.079
you seeing for chaos? Chaos?
You know? Next next headline that caught

1649
01:59:38.119 --> 01:59:41.880
my eye was Biden caught lying in
Israel. My son Boat was killed in

1650
01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:45.880
Iraq. What I want somebody in
major media to go through and count all

1651
01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:49.800
the time to Joe Biden has reference
his dead son and how many different ways

1652
01:59:49.840 --> 01:59:56.520
he died? Does this this?
I don't know what is wrong with Biden,

1653
01:59:56.560 --> 02:00:00.159
whether it's a phasia or whether it's
Alzheimer's, or whether it's just it's

1654
02:00:00.159 --> 02:00:05.760
a severe case of dumbass that has
multiplied over the years, nobody, nobody

1655
02:00:06.079 --> 02:00:11.800
in the history of American politics has
gotten away with the amount of bull crap

1656
02:00:12.439 --> 02:00:17.600
spouted more than Joe Biden. I
do not understand this at all. Anybody

1657
02:00:17.640 --> 02:00:23.039
else this would be a lie here. It's just well, just old Joe.

1658
02:00:24.640 --> 02:00:29.600
Well look, his son died of
what glioblastoma. It can't at the

1659
02:00:29.640 --> 02:00:32.000
age of forty two. But according
to him, he died in Iraq,

1660
02:00:32.079 --> 02:00:36.199
he died in the Middle East,
he died in the Afghanistan War. This

1661
02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:41.560
is this is I don't you know. We get the we get the government

1662
02:00:41.680 --> 02:00:45.279
we elect, and we have elected
one hell of a government that's in place

1663
02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:46.960
right now. We deserve what we
get. I hate to say it.

1664
02:00:47.119 --> 02:00:51.239
Well, you don't think that that
in some way, this is a logical

1665
02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:56.199
response to the bs that we got
from Trump for four years where you know,

1666
02:00:57.359 --> 02:01:00.600
I mean, you know Washington was
involved in airports and a minute.

1667
02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:05.520
Though. The thing is, when
Trump's founded bullshit, you had every major

1668
02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:11.239
media out there, media outlet reminding
you of it. Okay, yeah,

1669
02:01:11.319 --> 02:01:15.079
true right, we don't hear anything
in regards to these things about from from

1670
02:01:15.159 --> 02:01:17.119
Biden, and Biden has really come
up with some whoppers. Yeah, but

1671
02:01:17.159 --> 02:01:20.720
see outside of media response, nobody's
going to do anything about it either,

1672
02:01:20.720 --> 02:01:23.960
because it's sort of like, yeah, okay, that's just the way this

1673
02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:27.520
guy is, and they want to
make a stay about anything about it.

1674
02:01:27.640 --> 02:01:30.399
He's been elected. We can't get
rid of him, how can? I

1675
02:01:30.479 --> 02:01:32.359
mean the only other ways in the
past have been able to get rid of

1676
02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:35.479
the president is to shoot him in
Dallas. Well, well no, you

1677
02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:40.640
could actually if somebody were to make
a logical argument and say that he needs

1678
02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:44.880
to be removed because he's you know, incapacitated, that would make sense,

1679
02:01:44.880 --> 02:01:46.920
wouldn't it. I mean, we
have a mechanism. No, see,

1680
02:01:47.079 --> 02:01:53.399
because the Democrats blew that load early
as soon as Trump got in the twenty

1681
02:01:53.439 --> 02:01:56.319
fith amendment says, you know,
he's not capable of carrying out his duties.

1682
02:01:56.359 --> 02:01:58.720
We can get rid of them.
We can get rid of them because

1683
02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:01.960
the man is just not mentally We
heard that. Yeah, Trump goes and

1684
02:02:02.079 --> 02:02:05.600
takes a cognitive test and pass it
with flying colors. So now to bring

1685
02:02:05.680 --> 02:02:09.920
it up, it's just rehashing something
that you know, was a stupid idea

1686
02:02:10.399 --> 02:02:12.960
six years ago. Yeah, but
see, there's no point forget that.

1687
02:02:13.279 --> 02:02:15.520
But there's my point is the fact
that we've already been through this. You

1688
02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:18.279
don't think that that's some sort of
like, well, gee, it's kind

1689
02:02:18.319 --> 02:02:23.399
of normalized now. The old man
in the office can say whatever, because

1690
02:02:23.960 --> 02:02:27.560
I promise you this, if they
gave Biden a cognitive test, they would

1691
02:02:27.560 --> 02:02:30.079
also report to you that he passes
it too. And I'm not saying that

1692
02:02:30.159 --> 02:02:34.159
he should or that he would or
that observably, it looks like everybody would

1693
02:02:34.199 --> 02:02:36.920
know that's a lie. Because if
you go back and look at Biden since

1694
02:02:36.960 --> 02:02:41.399
the time he's been in government all. I mean, the guy's never held

1695
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:44.800
a private job. He's been in
politics from what after he got out of

1696
02:02:44.880 --> 02:02:47.720
school. I don't know if you
go back and look at what he had

1697
02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:53.159
to bow out of a presidential race
because he was caught plagiarizing five pages of

1698
02:02:53.239 --> 02:02:58.199
someone else's speech. He plagiarized his
way through school. I mean, that's

1699
02:02:58.239 --> 02:03:01.800
the thing about Biden. What is
it about Joe Biden that all of these

1700
02:03:01.920 --> 02:03:08.279
things, over the cumulative years that
he's been in public service don't finally add

1701
02:03:08.359 --> 02:03:11.760
up to sending him home and telling
them, look, just stay in the

1702
02:03:11.800 --> 02:03:15.079
basement, we're done with you.
See. But outside of the other political

1703
02:03:15.159 --> 02:03:19.000
candidate out there would be would go
through hell over the stuff Joe Biden has

1704
02:03:19.039 --> 02:03:21.600
said and done over the years.
That's the part that gets me. Oh,

1705
02:03:21.640 --> 02:03:25.399
I know they should, he should. But here's the problem again,

1706
02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:28.960
is if it's acceptable on one side, doesn't it make it more normal?

1707
02:03:29.239 --> 02:03:32.159
See, here's the deal. You're
right, we've already been through this and

1708
02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:34.560
it doesn't matter. I mean the
whole thing. Remember when they said,

1709
02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:38.680
oh, look Trump is perfectly healthy. He's uh and I went, are

1710
02:03:38.680 --> 02:03:43.560
you kidding me? This guy's healthy? Okay, you know. And meanwhile

1711
02:03:43.640 --> 02:03:45.279
he's got no troubles, but he's
taking a medication for this and that.

1712
02:03:45.439 --> 02:03:48.239
And I'm like, okay, you
know, and then the guys out there

1713
02:03:48.279 --> 02:03:51.600
making these statements, and it's like, well, how do we believe any

1714
02:03:51.680 --> 02:03:56.159
of these reports? And does it
really matter because at the end of the

1715
02:03:56.279 --> 02:03:59.479
day, it's a media report as
opposed to somebody doing something about it,

1716
02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:02.960
actually did anything about it. See, and nobody will do anything about this.

1717
02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:09.119
It points out really that as much
as the executive branch is supposed to

1718
02:04:09.159 --> 02:04:13.560
have all this power, kind of
thankful, it doesn't because look at who

1719
02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:16.159
was get stuck in there and what
happens I mean was he in this condition

1720
02:04:16.239 --> 02:04:19.119
when he got there, I don't
even know. And by the way,

1721
02:04:19.680 --> 02:04:21.880
I think he was. Well,
I'll be honest with you, I think

1722
02:04:21.920 --> 02:04:26.119
he was. I'm not arguing with
you. Yeah, I think the only

1723
02:04:26.199 --> 02:04:29.720
reason we saw Biden was keep Hillary
out of the deal. Well that and

1724
02:04:29.840 --> 02:04:31.960
also you know enough with Trump too. You had to put him aside,

1725
02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:34.800
and you had to didn't make sure
she did go in there, so and

1726
02:04:34.880 --> 02:04:39.720
they couldn't put Obama in for a
third term despite everybody's paranoid theories that they

1727
02:04:39.760 --> 02:04:44.920
were gonna you know, because I
still to this day have people sending me

1728
02:04:45.039 --> 02:04:49.399
things telling me that Barack Obama's the
Antichrist, which you know doesn't match because

1729
02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:51.800
he wasn't born in the Middle East. No, nobody. He'll tell you

1730
02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:55.479
that he was born in Middle East. But anyway, well, we don't

1731
02:04:55.560 --> 02:04:59.399
know where he was born. Dowey, Well, look, I don't know.

1732
02:05:00.119 --> 02:05:01.079
I don't want to go into that, but I will tell you that

1733
02:05:01.199 --> 02:05:04.520
nobody has ever asserted anywhere that he
was born in the Middle East. Okay,

1734
02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:09.720
that much I know. Regardless of
how they want to stress on the

1735
02:05:09.800 --> 02:05:14.000
Hussein name or whatever, it doesn't
matter. He's not the Antichrist. I

1736
02:05:14.079 --> 02:05:15.760
really wish you guys would stop trying
to show me, you know, Bible

1737
02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:19.239
verses about this because it's too funny. Well, I was saying, honestly,

1738
02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:21.640
though, I do feel that we
have gotten to the point that we

1739
02:05:21.880 --> 02:05:27.279
deserve the government we've got because of
the idiots that we keep putting in office.

1740
02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:30.039
You know, for years, what
did we hear we're tired of old,

1741
02:05:30.199 --> 02:05:33.600
rich white guys running the country.
Well, if you're tired of that,

1742
02:05:33.760 --> 02:05:36.520
why the hell do you keep electing
them? Well you've never gotten a

1743
02:05:36.560 --> 02:05:41.039
good answer to that. Yet that
cracks me up because everybody goes, look,

1744
02:05:41.079 --> 02:05:43.680
we need younger people, we need, you know, invigorate this and

1745
02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:47.039
invigorate. And all I see is
everybody who is in positions of power in

1746
02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:54.039
our government have gotten what older,
they get older and all. And I

1747
02:05:54.199 --> 02:05:58.000
do blame this on Generation X,
my generation not showing up to the party.

1748
02:05:58.199 --> 02:06:00.039
I get it. But same time, I mean, there aren't people

1749
02:06:00.079 --> 02:06:04.399
in their thirties at this point that
couldn't be put in some of these positions.

1750
02:06:04.560 --> 02:06:10.159
Somewhere. No, it's the oldest
possible, you know, people not

1751
02:06:10.319 --> 02:06:15.520
realizing that they were on vacation.
You know, the one woman had to

1752
02:06:15.600 --> 02:06:17.840
die to get out of there,
right, I mean, for God's sake,

1753
02:06:18.039 --> 02:06:21.199
every on both sides of the aisle, just keep the old one in

1754
02:06:21.399 --> 02:06:27.039
there. They can still fundraise cool, you know what, They still present

1755
02:06:27.159 --> 02:06:30.960
a figurehead good enough to oppose what's
worse. You want this, you want

1756
02:06:30.000 --> 02:06:33.279
this? How about we get somebody
good in there for once? That would

1757
02:06:33.319 --> 02:06:35.479
be nice. I mean, it'd
be interesting to see what happens. Well,

1758
02:06:35.560 --> 02:06:40.760
yeah, I mean to have an
election where you actually have a choice,

1759
02:06:40.800 --> 02:06:44.359
and it's not a choice between the
lesser of two evils. That's been

1760
02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:47.600
the dark case since you know factor
in the Reagan era. You know who

1761
02:06:47.680 --> 02:06:50.880
you vote for, Well, it's
the lesser of two evils. I'm sick

1762
02:06:50.920 --> 02:06:54.399
and tired of the lesser of two
of the evils. I want some people

1763
02:06:54.479 --> 02:06:58.399
in there that can you know,
that can get in there and do a

1764
02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:02.600
job that they were elected to.
The problem is, normally politicians have a

1765
02:07:02.720 --> 02:07:08.239
certain amount of narcissism where they wouldn't
be politicians, and so it's all about

1766
02:07:08.319 --> 02:07:13.439
them. It's all about them and
getting them reelected. You know, there's

1767
02:07:13.479 --> 02:07:16.720
been a few members of Congress that
saying, look, I was elected to

1768
02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:21.119
represent the people of my district,
that's what I'm here to do. And

1769
02:07:21.199 --> 02:07:25.520
when they get tired of me representing
them or think someone could do a better

1770
02:07:25.640 --> 02:07:29.159
job, they'll vote me out.
So until I'm voted out, I'm here

1771
02:07:29.199 --> 02:07:33.560
to do a job. That's a
big difference between the McConnell's and the Nadlers

1772
02:07:33.760 --> 02:07:40.199
and the Schumers and these people that
have been around so long. They are

1773
02:07:40.279 --> 02:07:44.359
truly professional politicians. And a professional
politician is the one you got to look

1774
02:07:44.399 --> 02:07:47.239
out for. There's the guy that's
getting voted mayor of the small town in

1775
02:07:47.279 --> 02:07:50.920
the middle of Iowa, who does
it for a couple of years and moves

1776
02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:55.640
on. You know, citizen politicians
are a thing of the past. You

1777
02:07:55.760 --> 02:07:59.640
can't have them above a certain level
because of all the money that it takes

1778
02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:05.159
to become I'm elected above a certain
level. So you can forget the citizen

1779
02:08:05.920 --> 02:08:09.119
politician that's long gone. The days
of you know, mister Smith goes to

1780
02:08:09.319 --> 02:08:13.920
Washington, that's all a pipe dream. You can forget it were well beyond

1781
02:08:13.000 --> 02:08:16.840
that. There's too much money involved
in it for anybody to get in there

1782
02:08:16.880 --> 02:08:22.520
and make an effective change without having
to play money politics. It's impossible to

1783
02:08:22.600 --> 02:08:24.960
do now on a national level,
you know, It's like when you call

1784
02:08:26.119 --> 02:08:28.880
up when you call up Nancy Pelosi's
office to complain about something, then the

1785
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:33.399
first recording that you did is if
you're not a constituent, we really don't

1786
02:08:33.439 --> 02:08:35.680
care about your call. Well,
I happen to get a hold of somebody

1787
02:08:35.760 --> 02:08:39.199
in somebody's office one time and they
made that statement, Well, you don't

1788
02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:43.279
live here, you're really not a
constituent. So she's only going to give

1789
02:08:43.359 --> 02:08:46.199
so much. You know, wait
to the comments you have to say.

1790
02:08:46.239 --> 02:08:48.399
I said, well, wait a
minute, she ever accepted any money from

1791
02:08:48.399 --> 02:08:52.039
the outside of California. Well,
yeah, I said, all right,

1792
02:08:52.119 --> 02:08:54.920
that constituent shit goes out the window
right there. I don't want to hear

1793
02:08:54.920 --> 02:08:58.439
it anymore. She's willing to take
money from outside, and she's willing to

1794
02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:01.439
bowed a lobbyist from outside of the
state of California. But if you know,

1795
02:09:01.520 --> 02:09:05.680
a taxpayer calls up, well you're
not in her district, so she's

1796
02:09:05.720 --> 02:09:09.359
not going to listen to you.
That's our problem. We have so much

1797
02:09:09.479 --> 02:09:13.560
money coming in from not only other
areas in the country, but also international

1798
02:09:15.800 --> 02:09:20.600
individuals or entities pumping money into these
damn elections. And until we get rid

1799
02:09:20.600 --> 02:09:22.359
of the money you're not going to
get government. What you're dealing with now

1800
02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:28.159
is a photocracy. It's crazy.
Yeah, fair enough, And look,

1801
02:09:28.239 --> 02:09:31.840
it would be nice, you know
in the it would be nice file.

1802
02:09:31.880 --> 02:09:35.159
I'd love to see, you know, other than okay, you're hungry,

1803
02:09:35.640 --> 02:09:39.319
how about we have you know,
a dog shit or cat shit sandwich.

1804
02:09:39.720 --> 02:09:43.920
I'd like something else between the bread, please, you know, just just

1805
02:09:43.039 --> 02:09:46.760
something else that, like, I
don't know is food instead of that.

1806
02:09:46.359 --> 02:09:50.239
I mean, I know, technically
speaking, there's nutrients there, but you

1807
02:09:50.319 --> 02:09:52.600
know, not what I want to
eat. Anyways, I'm going to let

1808
02:09:52.640 --> 02:09:56.760
everybody come on the line. Well
it was. I'm going to Harlan first,

1809
02:09:58.199 --> 02:10:01.800
unmuting him, and if anybody else
wants to join in, you can

1810
02:10:01.880 --> 02:10:03.600
do that too at three one nine, five, two seven five zero one

1811
02:10:03.720 --> 02:10:07.840
six because I'm about ready to just
flush this one for the week. And

1812
02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:11.039
I gotta tell you, I feel
a lot better about this show than the

1813
02:10:11.239 --> 02:10:15.600
last. But uh, still waiting
to hear you guys here feedback. We

1814
02:10:15.680 --> 02:10:18.560
got a few live comments, yes, and uh we'll take those into account,

1815
02:10:18.640 --> 02:10:22.000
and you know, let me know
what I should do with that podcast.

1816
02:10:22.199 --> 02:10:24.840
That's all I got to say about
it. And uh, I like

1817
02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:28.560
Bpete's idea. Maybe you do too. Let me know that info at ocelly

1818
02:10:28.640 --> 02:10:33.720
dot com you can email me there, or blind JFK researcher at gmail dot

1819
02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:37.960
com. I will answer either one
of those and take into account what you

1820
02:10:37.039 --> 02:10:41.439
have to say. Okay, so
I've let Harlan and Vance both back on

1821
02:10:41.600 --> 02:10:45.159
the line, and uh I'll start
with Harlan. Anything you want to add

1822
02:10:45.199 --> 02:10:50.079
in here as we're getting ready to
close out. You can't make chicken sad

1823
02:10:50.119 --> 02:10:54.760
with that a chicken shit If they
you won't have to test. There you

1824
02:10:54.840 --> 02:11:01.680
go, there's some wisdom. I
like that nice and punch that shit cover

1825
02:11:01.479 --> 02:11:05.840
and what waves out there? You
have it? There, you have it.

1826
02:11:05.920 --> 02:11:09.640
I can't argue. I be people. I can't argue with them,

1827
02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:13.479
can you. No, not at
all, not at all. And I

1828
02:11:13.560 --> 02:11:16.680
haven't like chicken salad. Yeah I
like chicken salad too, And I think

1829
02:11:16.720 --> 02:11:20.239
if you start adding the chicken shit
in, I've got no I got no

1830
02:11:20.359 --> 02:11:22.079
time for it. You know other
people might do that. I mean you

1831
02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:24.359
want to do that, eat bugs
and everything. I mean, that's up

1832
02:11:24.399 --> 02:11:28.920
to you. I fully support your
right to consume as you choose, but

1833
02:11:28.239 --> 02:11:31.640
uh, not what I want.
So Thank you, Harlan. That's great.

1834
02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:35.000
Vance you're also back on the line, so uh, I'll just let

1835
02:11:35.039 --> 02:11:39.960
you guys talk for a little bit
if you want, go ahead, Harley.

1836
02:11:41.720 --> 02:11:46.159
The one thing I would like to
touch on was, you know,

1837
02:11:46.319 --> 02:11:52.439
the kracking things like it's been through
city Pow. I missed that one.

1838
02:11:54.720 --> 02:12:00.319
I was reading some stories on it
saying that you know, hurt they from

1839
02:12:00.319 --> 02:12:05.119
the testify if you know, quote, if she's styled, and other defend

1840
02:12:05.279 --> 02:12:11.399
and include you know Trump. Uh. And I sent that those stories around

1841
02:12:11.479 --> 02:12:15.960
to a few people on Facebook and
a few of them that I know personally,

1842
02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:18.680
and I'm like, well, that
looks like the cracking has been released

1843
02:12:18.760 --> 02:12:24.760
and you've got the automatic just oh
they was election froud. They was this

1844
02:12:24.920 --> 02:12:28.960
blah blah, Well that what the
peons the pone is she pled guilty,

1845
02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:33.600
she's ready to rat, you know, And that just went right over the

1846
02:12:33.680 --> 02:12:37.119
heads. Hey, Harlan, do
me a favorite. If you have some

1847
02:12:37.239 --> 02:12:39.520
of those stories, send one to
me or drop in the chat room,

1848
02:12:39.600 --> 02:12:46.000
because you know, I'm looking at
the ap story and according to the ape,

1849
02:12:46.239 --> 02:12:48.640
which is the one I was going
to read off of, here's the

1850
02:12:48.720 --> 02:12:50.600
conditions, I skipped down and I'll
give you guys the link in the Ocelli

1851
02:12:50.720 --> 02:12:54.439
chat room. I think I might
have already done it, but if not,

1852
02:12:54.560 --> 02:12:56.520
I'll put it there. I think
I already did, but whatever,

1853
02:12:56.680 --> 02:13:01.920
I'll put it there again. Yeah. It says as part of the deal,

1854
02:13:01.000 --> 02:13:05.239
she will serve six years of probation, will be fined six thousand dollars,

1855
02:13:05.359 --> 02:13:07.439
and we'll have to write an apology
letter to Georgia and its residents.

1856
02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:11.840
So I guess I'm expecting a letter
from Sidney Powell in the mail soon.

1857
02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:18.600
She also recorded a statement for prosecutors
and agreed to testify truthfully against her co

1858
02:13:18.800 --> 02:13:26.279
defendants at future trials. So they're
saying in other articles that part of the

1859
02:13:26.359 --> 02:13:28.640
deal is for her not to have
to testify. Is that what you're saying?

1860
02:13:31.479 --> 02:13:35.039
Yes, yes, yes, to
testify, not not? But yes,

1861
02:13:37.560 --> 02:13:43.039
handy there, okay you yes,
yeah, okay, okay. No,

1862
02:13:43.159 --> 02:13:48.000
I misunderstood you then because I was
saying, wow, because I'm here

1863
02:13:48.079 --> 02:13:50.680
in a contradiction, and it wouldn't
be the first time where there's a legal

1864
02:13:50.720 --> 02:13:54.600
agreement one way and the public thinks
that goes a certain way, and then

1865
02:13:54.640 --> 02:13:58.920
you find out, well, maybe
she doesn't have to. But I thought

1866
02:14:00.159 --> 02:14:05.159
disting point here, Sidney Powell went
ahead and and and took this plea deal.

1867
02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:09.239
But I remember when this stuff was
going on, and they were they

1868
02:14:09.279 --> 02:14:18.039
were filing cases in different jurisdictions to
dispute the election, and there was back

1869
02:14:18.800 --> 02:14:24.560
do you remember back when Millie Weaver
had her falling out with Alex Jones over

1870
02:14:26.920 --> 02:14:35.760
things that were said in conjection with
with m oh god Lills Trump sidekick,

1871
02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:43.079
he got his house got raided,
Michael Cohen, nou dragon tattoo on the

1872
02:14:43.159 --> 02:14:46.520
back. What's a dirty tricks guy. I'm not a dragon tattoo. He's

1873
02:14:46.520 --> 02:14:52.000
got a tattoo at Nixon, Roger
Roger Roger Stone. He's got a tattoo,

1874
02:14:52.199 --> 02:14:56.319
Ni tattoo. Yeah. Anyway,
back when all this was going on,

1875
02:14:58.199 --> 02:15:03.560
Cydney Powell referred to some documents that
were provided to her by a podcaster

1876
02:15:03.840 --> 02:15:09.239
by the name of Toy, who
was a sidekick of Millie Weaver when she

1877
02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:13.880
went through that whole spiel with getting
kicked off Alex Jones's channel and all,

1878
02:15:15.600 --> 02:15:18.560
well, they had brought up some
claims on election fraud and that because of

1879
02:15:18.680 --> 02:15:24.880
the machines being rigged and being able
to transfer votes and things like that,

1880
02:15:24.079 --> 02:15:28.840
nature. She was involved in a
lot of the background information that was provided

1881
02:15:28.920 --> 02:15:33.760
to Sidney Powell, and I have
yet to see her name mentioned anywhere as

1882
02:15:33.880 --> 02:15:39.680
being a co conspirator on any of
this stuff, and I've been trying to

1883
02:15:39.800 --> 02:15:45.199
find I remember seeing information about her
when they were filing the claims, but

1884
02:15:45.319 --> 02:15:48.319
since all this stuff has blown up
over the past three years, I've not

1885
02:15:48.479 --> 02:15:54.720
seen any mention of her whatsoever,
and which I find amazing because she's got

1886
02:15:54.840 --> 02:15:58.479
pretty big footprint when it comes to
podcasting and things of that nature, and

1887
02:15:58.680 --> 02:16:05.279
being involved in the Alex Jones,
Millie Weaver, whole cabal of people that

1888
02:16:05.399 --> 02:16:11.720
have been spout in this election denial
since it started, and I'm just I'm

1889
02:16:11.800 --> 02:16:16.800
amazed that she's been able to stay
under the radar. How she hasn't been

1890
02:16:16.800 --> 02:16:20.239
brought up on charges because she was
providing theo to Sydney Pall and the rest

1891
02:16:20.279 --> 02:16:26.439
of these people over the supposed election
involving the machines and what we had the

1892
02:16:26.560 --> 02:16:33.479
lawsuit against. Was it Fox by
the company that made the machines or something

1893
02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:39.319
that said they were vulnerable. Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't gone after I'm

1894
02:16:39.319 --> 02:16:43.000
trying to find the connection of how
suddenly this girl's able to drop out.

1895
02:16:43.079 --> 02:16:46.159
She's one of these fantasis like Judith
Ferry Baker that has been able to make

1896
02:16:46.239 --> 02:16:52.399
claims about all these background things going
on before Trump got in, and how

1897
02:16:52.479 --> 02:16:56.239
she's involved in all this skullduggery and
crap like that. There's the blog on

1898
02:16:56.360 --> 02:17:00.760
it all, my blog post covering
the whole Millie Weaver thing Dominion. But

1899
02:17:00.920 --> 02:17:03.719
I just found it interesting that I've
dopted able to see her indicted anywhere on

1900
02:17:03.959 --> 02:17:07.719
anything, and she was responsible for
a majority of the information Sydney Powell was

1901
02:17:07.799 --> 02:17:11.799
using. Well I don't know what. I don't know what percentage she was

1902
02:17:11.879 --> 02:17:13.680
responsible for, but I know what
you're talking about, and you're talking about

1903
02:17:13.680 --> 02:17:18.239
the Dominion case. But one of
the things with Fox, because that was

1904
02:17:18.280 --> 02:17:22.479
supposedly the reason for dismissing Tucker Carlson, right, was because he was making

1905
02:17:22.520 --> 02:17:26.520
disparaging remarks while they were in the
midst of that, which, by the

1906
02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:31.360
way, Tucker Carlson I'm pretty certain
is doing quite well at this point,

1907
02:17:31.959 --> 02:17:35.760
having become you know, the Twitter
ex poster boy for had to podcast,

1908
02:17:35.840 --> 02:17:37.840
and by the way, they got
a whole thing growing out of that,

1909
02:17:37.600 --> 02:17:41.920
and now they're going to start charging
like a dollar, I think or something.

1910
02:17:41.000 --> 02:17:46.239
If you knew sign up for Twitter. So, yeah, they say

1911
02:17:46.479 --> 02:17:50.799
to eliminate spam bots, you just
charging the nominal fee will get rid of

1912
02:17:50.879 --> 02:17:54.280
a lot of the problems. Well, I think the people that I can

1913
02:17:54.319 --> 02:17:56.680
see the point on one hand,
But on the other hand, if I

1914
02:17:56.760 --> 02:18:00.680
wanted to buy a thousand spam bots
and I'm in that kind of business,

1915
02:18:00.760 --> 02:18:03.920
I'm thinking to myself, a thousand
dollars investment ain't so bad, you know

1916
02:18:05.159 --> 02:18:09.040
exactly. But anyway, maybe it's
just me and it puts a thousand bucks,

1917
02:18:09.159 --> 02:18:11.680
and it puts a thousand bucks in
Elon's pocket. There you go,

1918
02:18:11.000 --> 02:18:15.040
that's a win win. That's a
capitalistic idea of ever heard one, Well

1919
02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:16.799
kind of sort of, especially since
he didn't even use all his own money

1920
02:18:16.840 --> 02:18:20.200
to buy the thing, you know, that that huge multi billion dollar you

1921
02:18:20.280 --> 02:18:24.040
know, price tag and all that. That's not all his money. Yeah,

1922
02:18:24.319 --> 02:18:28.000
so of course you always do it
with opm OHPM is the other people's

1923
02:18:28.040 --> 02:18:31.120
money, man. That's how the
world goes round. Oh, I know

1924
02:18:31.200 --> 02:18:33.239
it. That's see. That's That's
the funny thing about Trump is that a

1925
02:18:33.319 --> 02:18:35.559
lot of times when he's making these
you know, Oh he made a billion

1926
02:18:35.600 --> 02:18:39.920
dollar deal. I'm like, yet
none of that money's his. You know,

1927
02:18:39.079 --> 02:18:43.760
It's like I do that before he
was even you know, before anybody

1928
02:18:43.840 --> 02:18:50.760
knew he was doing exact credit?
Was that having a dollar? I mean

1929
02:18:50.920 --> 02:18:54.600
just moving his mouth, you know. I mean, that's that's one thing

1930
02:18:54.680 --> 02:18:58.719
about it. It's like people used
to say years ago, you could learn

1931
02:18:58.840 --> 02:19:03.040
a lot watching Bill Clinton. You
can learn a lot watching Donald Trump.

1932
02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:07.559
You've got to respect you to that
attitude. Well, I don't. I

1933
02:19:07.639 --> 02:19:11.920
don't. I don't know how to
apply it, is the problem. I

1934
02:19:11.959 --> 02:19:13.239
mean I see the grift, but
I don't know how to run it.

1935
02:19:13.559 --> 02:19:20.079
I mean, I gotta be honest
with you, what you might I I

1936
02:19:20.280 --> 02:19:24.360
just I a problem. I am
born with a conscience. Is that what

1937
02:19:24.479 --> 02:19:30.440
the problem is? Okay? Makes
sense. Well, look, speaking of

1938
02:19:30.559 --> 02:19:33.559
having a conscience and all that good
stuff again, we are preparing to go

1939
02:19:33.639 --> 02:19:37.959
to Dallas now in less than a
month. Uh but see by this time,

1940
02:19:37.239 --> 02:19:41.840
actually we'll be on our way back
by the twentieth of November. So

1941
02:19:41.559 --> 02:19:45.319
you know, there you go,
that's happening. If you want to meet

1942
02:19:45.399 --> 02:19:48.840
up with us, Uh, there's
still plenty of ways to do that.

1943
02:19:48.280 --> 02:19:50.959
Be Pete and I will be on
the road going to Dallas. Uh,

1944
02:19:52.200 --> 02:19:56.280
hopefully not arguing about you know,
Palaes nine in Israel. The whole way.

1945
02:19:56.239 --> 02:19:58.959
I've got a couple of audio books. If you you have a seat

1946
02:20:00.040 --> 02:20:03.840
D player in your car, do
you have a CD player? No,

1947
02:20:05.520 --> 02:20:07.319
that's the one thing. When I
bought this car, and that's what killed

1948
02:20:07.360 --> 02:20:13.040
me. I had a ton I
mean, I got a crapload of CDs,

1949
02:20:13.079 --> 02:20:15.239
and I had a lot of albums
that I recorded over the CD.

1950
02:20:15.479 --> 02:20:18.479
But when I get it, no
CD players got a damn MP three holes.

1951
02:20:18.520 --> 02:20:22.440
So I had to go out and
buy thumb drives and then transfer all

1952
02:20:22.520 --> 02:20:26.000
my music onto computer, then put
all my music onto the thumb drive just

1953
02:20:26.079 --> 02:20:28.520
so i'd have it with me want
to go. But now that I got

1954
02:20:28.559 --> 02:20:33.079
Bluetooth on it and YouTube music,
that's pretty much what I load up when

1955
02:20:33.079 --> 02:20:35.479
I hit the road, And that
way you can play whatever the hell you

1956
02:20:35.600 --> 02:20:37.000
want, okay, Because I was
wondering, I mean, you know,

1957
02:20:37.079 --> 02:20:41.239
if you wanted to like listen to
some audio books or something along the way.

1958
02:20:41.319 --> 02:20:43.600
I mean, I've got stuff on
CD and things like that. I

1959
02:20:43.680 --> 02:20:48.120
mean I could I could clearly rig
up some like a regular USB thumb drive.

1960
02:20:48.520 --> 02:20:52.399
Could I plug that in there or
no? Yeah, okay, yeah,

1961
02:20:52.600 --> 02:20:54.200
regular USB thumb drive. That's what
I did. I put all my

1962
02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:58.840
CDs on thumb drive. I think
I've got eighteen hours just on one nice

1963
02:21:00.360 --> 02:21:03.559
of a mix of everything. But
like I said, once I win a

1964
02:21:03.600 --> 02:21:07.280
Hit and Ball premium YouTube music so
that when I get on I can turn

1965
02:21:07.319 --> 02:21:09.319
the bluetooth on, put that on
hit shuffle on my music. I got

1966
02:21:09.520 --> 02:21:13.040
like eleven hundred songs right there to
listen to, so excellent, No ads,

1967
02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:16.360
no, nothing. Well, I'm
still working on raising funds to do

1968
02:21:16.479 --> 02:21:20.319
that. And if you want to
come and meet us there, you'll definitely

1969
02:21:20.360 --> 02:21:22.399
get something out of the deal.
I might even have an extra lunch or

1970
02:21:22.440 --> 02:21:28.680
two, depending on arrangements on different
given days, stuff like that. So

1971
02:21:30.319 --> 02:21:33.639
and I don't know, I think
we could probably squeeze somebody else, you

1972
02:21:33.680 --> 02:21:35.280
know, sneak somebody else into the
hotel room kind of thing. VPTE.

1973
02:21:35.319 --> 02:21:37.879
Probably we could probably get one other
spot in there. If you want to

1974
02:21:37.959 --> 02:21:41.079
chip in because you can't afford the
rate and you want to be able to

1975
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:46.879
go to the conference, that's a
possibility, okay, But obviously, I

1976
02:21:46.959 --> 02:21:48.399
mean I'm not going to just take
random I don't know you from anywhere.

1977
02:21:48.920 --> 02:21:52.520
One guy actually offered to put us
up at his house. I sent you

1978
02:21:52.639 --> 02:21:56.799
that email or the message, right
b Pete, Yeah, yeah, so

1979
02:21:58.280 --> 02:22:00.680
you know, but I think he's
a little too poor away for it to

1980
02:22:00.760 --> 02:22:03.719
work out. But I appreciate that, and I appreciate any offers of,

1981
02:22:05.200 --> 02:22:09.719
you know, assistance for us to
get there and back for sure. And

1982
02:22:09.040 --> 02:22:13.719
I'm hoping to meet a bunch of
you at the conference. So let's do

1983
02:22:13.879 --> 02:22:18.079
that and let's gear up for it
and there you go. So I'll tell

1984
02:22:18.120 --> 02:22:20.319
you what, man, how should
we close this one out? And be

1985
02:22:20.360 --> 02:22:24.159
Pete, what do you think?
Well, we can get everybody's part in

1986
02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:28.159
thoughts and just shut her on down. Well we're a little bit pastime,

1987
02:22:28.600 --> 02:22:31.200
a little over, not much,
not too much, but a little bit

1988
02:22:31.280 --> 02:22:33.440
over. So you got more than
two hours out of it. Anyway,

1989
02:22:33.479 --> 02:22:39.360
you guys listening. But I really
hope that we can get more participation again,

1990
02:22:39.479 --> 02:22:41.440
you know, with callers on the
Friday Night show. I appreciate you

1991
02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:46.520
guys that do call in, Harlan
Advanced being two of the main guys who

1992
02:22:46.600 --> 02:22:50.840
often call in. Jimmy James absent
tonight. He probably overslept or something.

1993
02:22:50.879 --> 02:22:54.760
That's what I'm thinking, Either that
maybe there's a good baseball game on or

1994
02:22:54.879 --> 02:22:58.799
no, he's a football guy.
I don't know. Maybe he's a baseball

1995
02:22:58.840 --> 02:23:01.879
guy. I know that there's the
playoff game on tonight, so maybe he's

1996
02:23:01.920 --> 02:23:05.600
doing that. Maybe he forgot I
don't know. But either way, we'd

1997
02:23:05.680 --> 02:23:09.680
love to hear from any of you, you know, especially if you want

1998
02:23:09.719 --> 02:23:13.399
to throw in brand new ideas and
new material into the mix. Certainly.

1999
02:23:13.440 --> 02:23:16.680
And I have no idea what our
plan is for next week, but we

2000
02:23:16.760 --> 02:23:20.360
might have one and we might not, so by all means, join us

2001
02:23:20.399 --> 02:23:22.280
anytime. So who should we go
to first? You want to just,

2002
02:23:24.040 --> 02:23:28.799
you know, let everybody get a
final word sort of, Yeah, let's

2003
02:23:28.959 --> 02:23:31.040
go in order. We'll just hit
Harland, then we'll shoot the vance and

2004
02:23:31.120 --> 02:23:33.799
then we'll scrattle on out of here. There you go, Harlan, you

2005
02:23:33.879 --> 02:23:39.840
got a final thought for this week? You know, really the I didn't

2006
02:23:39.879 --> 02:23:46.040
get into it tonight, not because
I was excused the victim byme in last

2007
02:23:46.120 --> 02:23:48.680
week. You know, I figured, you know, everybody's probably we're out

2008
02:23:48.760 --> 02:23:52.440
with it stuff, you know,
just just pray for pace out over the

2009
02:23:52.520 --> 02:23:58.360
world, and we don't get sucked
into another world war out paste over the

2010
02:23:58.479 --> 02:24:05.040
Vance well before Vance speaks. I
think everybody on this call would agree that

2011
02:24:05.680 --> 02:24:09.200
we do not want to see a
uh, the United States dragged into a

2012
02:24:09.280 --> 02:24:15.319
conflict that because I saw people discussing
a draft and everything else online this week.

2013
02:24:16.399 --> 02:24:18.920
It makes me shake my head every
time, you know, it's like

2014
02:24:18.040 --> 02:24:24.000
this nervous response for they're gonna they're
gonna make a draft. Now we're going

2015
02:24:24.079 --> 02:24:28.120
to it. It's full on and
I'm like, we're not actually technically involved

2016
02:24:28.200 --> 02:24:33.079
yet outside of our money. Yeah, go ahead. You know. I'm

2017
02:24:33.559 --> 02:24:37.680
a post on Twitter this week something
to the fact, you know, the

2018
02:24:37.360 --> 02:24:43.239
generation that nobody wants to work anymore
also seems lack the generation and nobody wants

2019
02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:48.639
to go to war anymore. I
think there is that sentiment out there,

2020
02:24:50.239 --> 02:24:54.280
well would that work for us or
against us? Because you know, look,

2021
02:24:54.399 --> 02:24:58.680
I I really don't want to go
to war either. But when it's

2022
02:24:58.799 --> 02:25:03.479
necessary, it's necessary, you know, and necessity is one thing, and

2023
02:25:03.879 --> 02:25:09.719
being dragged into things because is yet
another. So I would say collectively,

2024
02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:13.479
I'd like to not see a violence
continue on the planet as is, regardless

2025
02:25:13.600 --> 02:25:16.840
of where it is or for what
the purpose is, or which government perpetrates

2026
02:25:16.879 --> 02:25:22.799
it, or which group of individuals
has declared themselves whatever, it's kind of

2027
02:25:22.840 --> 02:25:24.959
irrelevant. I think that bloodshed is
just something that we should be able to

2028
02:25:24.959 --> 02:25:30.360
get passed at some point in our
history, and yet we seem to not

2029
02:25:30.600 --> 02:25:35.600
do it. But you know,
here we are continuing on, and I

2030
02:25:35.639 --> 02:25:41.559
don't think anybody here is like aching
to go to war. As for whether

2031
02:25:41.719 --> 02:25:43.280
you know, the generation that doesn't
want to work also doesn't want to go

2032
02:25:43.319 --> 02:25:46.760
to war, that would kind of
make sense, though Harlan wouldn't it.

2033
02:25:48.120 --> 02:25:52.399
Well, what I really meant,
but that is, you know, we

2034
02:25:52.600 --> 02:25:56.079
often here in the list two or
three years, nobody will work, or

2035
02:25:56.120 --> 02:26:01.760
in a lot of cases, it's
not just these young people that you know,

2036
02:26:01.920 --> 02:26:05.159
gets to blame. It's the same
way like was abortion for many years,

2037
02:26:05.280 --> 02:26:09.360
the young girls got to blame for
it, even though it was you

2038
02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:11.639
know, the forty some year olds
getting it. Those same forty some year

2039
02:26:11.680 --> 02:26:16.879
olds that was done. All the
blaming on these young girls at that time

2040
02:26:16.959 --> 02:26:20.920
is now fifty summer sixty. But
just in general, a lot of people's

2041
02:26:22.000 --> 02:26:24.719
kind of got wise to where,
you don't know, they ain't gonna work

2042
02:26:24.760 --> 02:26:28.239
for us, Just like a lot
of people ain't gonna go to war for

2043
02:26:28.440 --> 02:26:31.239
us or something made up or something
that's on the other side of the world.

2044
02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:35.719
It's just a bunch of politics that's
been going on for you know,

2045
02:26:35.879 --> 02:26:41.399
before they was born. This stuff's
been going on before I think anybody on

2046
02:26:41.520 --> 02:26:45.959
this call, you know, was
born. And that was really you know,

2047
02:26:46.120 --> 02:26:48.719
my overall you know message. You
know, I think some people picked

2048
02:26:48.799 --> 02:26:52.600
up on it, some people get
it. That's kind of way, you

2049
02:26:52.680 --> 02:26:56.159
know, I look at it.
As far as you know about everything's going

2050
02:26:56.200 --> 02:27:03.159
on over there, I will say
this everybody here, all the lives we've

2051
02:27:03.319 --> 02:27:07.319
been you know, BP mentioned earlier, you know, Hamas was elected and

2052
02:27:07.479 --> 02:27:11.360
everything, and you mentioned the part
about how that you know, they're kind

2053
02:27:11.399 --> 02:27:16.079
of just stuck right there, and
both of you have got good pompers,

2054
02:27:16.559 --> 02:27:20.639
but the average person over there just
think our government here, whether if we

2055
02:27:20.719 --> 02:27:24.920
agree, will follow them or not. Well, they're the ones that's elected.

2056
02:27:24.959 --> 02:27:28.760
And like we're looking at you know, hamas As, you know,

2057
02:27:28.920 --> 02:27:31.920
Ben Turist, and I'm not saying
that they're not because it looks like that

2058
02:27:33.079 --> 02:27:35.559
come in and you know, took
over the show over there in that area.

2059
02:27:37.319 --> 02:27:41.000
But they're looking back at us.
I'm sure thinking that you know,

2060
02:27:41.239 --> 02:27:45.879
our government is the terrorist and the
same way then I'm sure that some of

2061
02:27:45.959 --> 02:27:50.360
the Israelis is looking at us that
we're the problem and vice versa. You

2062
02:27:50.440 --> 02:27:52.280
know, you can get this this
searchular orange bluck. But at the end

2063
02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:56.399
of the day, you know,
the majority of these populations of all these

2064
02:27:56.520 --> 02:28:01.719
countries, regardless it's Israel, you
know, the Palestinians or you know,

2065
02:28:01.879 --> 02:28:05.559
the Americans, Russians, the Ukrainians
or whoever, there's a lot of people

2066
02:28:05.639 --> 02:28:09.920
that's just like you know, versions
of us there. It's just trying to

2067
02:28:09.040 --> 02:28:13.760
live them. And it's you know, we're knocking on the twenty fifth year

2068
02:28:13.959 --> 02:28:18.040
of the twenty first century. Screw
a bunch of this boat. If you

2069
02:28:18.200 --> 02:28:22.280
can't come up with a solution,
get out of the way and let somebody

2070
02:28:22.319 --> 02:28:28.040
else track. Well, yeah,
something else what they happened, then it

2071
02:28:28.079 --> 02:28:33.000
ain't working. See. Ultimately,
that's where I come down on it is

2072
02:28:33.639 --> 02:28:37.040
just like with most things, the
reason why there hasn't been a solution is

2073
02:28:37.120 --> 02:28:39.760
because nobody's been able to come up
with it. And that's because there haven't

2074
02:28:39.799 --> 02:28:43.760
been any new ideas. There hasn't
been any innovation. It's just the same

2075
02:28:43.840 --> 02:28:48.840
old arguments which are not accomplishing anything. And you know, if you want

2076
02:28:48.879 --> 02:28:52.840
to leave things as they are,
they will occasionally do what boil over and

2077
02:28:52.920 --> 02:28:56.479
turn into something else. And that's
it. If you don't fix the problem,

2078
02:28:56.719 --> 02:29:03.360
it's going to fester. Whether it's
our our border issue, well,

2079
02:29:03.399 --> 02:29:07.879
whether it's our border issue or it's
their border issue, or it's it doesn't

2080
02:29:07.920 --> 02:29:11.280
matter because if nobody makes a move
to fix it, and they just make

2081
02:29:11.399 --> 02:29:16.079
moves to argue and fundraise off of
it, well then that's what you'll have

2082
02:29:16.559 --> 02:29:20.319
and that's what will result from it, because nobody's making any moves outside of

2083
02:29:20.360 --> 02:29:24.319
the ones that have already failed.
I mean, you know, you go

2084
02:29:24.440 --> 02:29:28.159
with the Trump thing, Hey,
Hamas was smart. They attacked an area

2085
02:29:28.200 --> 02:29:31.440
because somebody said something in public.
Uh. And at the end of the

2086
02:29:31.559 --> 02:29:37.719
day, also, hey, I
did the most for Israel of anybody and

2087
02:29:37.879 --> 02:29:41.079
that's all he had to say.
So what are you gonna do? Trump

2088
02:29:41.280 --> 02:29:45.719
lies? I mean to be I
mean, everybody's just been a listening that

2089
02:29:45.920 --> 02:29:48.120
they know that. You know,
I'm very critical of the Orange one.

2090
02:29:48.719 --> 02:29:52.360
They did. Trump really lies.
Should he have said it, probably not.

2091
02:29:52.719 --> 02:29:58.520
I wouldn't have said it, but
he didn't really lie when you put

2092
02:29:58.600 --> 02:30:01.920
everything in the contection. I'm I'm
not saying that what in some just politics

2093
02:30:01.959 --> 02:30:07.639
over here slanging around it back and
stuff. But you know these statements,

2094
02:30:09.959 --> 02:30:15.879
you know, I mean just because
no absolutely no, no, no,

2095
02:30:16.079 --> 02:30:18.520
no, no lies there, Harlan. But you know what's funny. You

2096
02:30:18.600 --> 02:30:20.840
know what's funny about it, though, is it's not about the lie.

2097
02:30:22.079 --> 02:30:24.399
It's you know, the only way
to do damage with your words is to

2098
02:30:24.520 --> 02:30:28.000
lie. Some people think that,
but that's not true sometimes, you know,

2099
02:30:28.239 --> 02:30:31.399
it is the things that you choose
not to say that are really the

2100
02:30:31.479 --> 02:30:35.799
strongest because on occasion, yeah,
you don't raise up your voice. You

2101
02:30:35.879 --> 02:30:39.200
raise up your voice when it's going
to have a positive result, when it

2102
02:30:39.360 --> 02:30:43.840
changes something, then it's good to
wield it, especially if you know you've

2103
02:30:43.840 --> 02:30:46.399
got a platform. But when you're
just out there making reckless statements, you

2104
02:30:46.440 --> 02:30:50.719
don't know what you're encouraging. And
that's the thing about it, you know.

2105
02:30:50.680 --> 02:30:54.600
So uh no, it's not just
about the lie. Like you know,

2106
02:30:54.639 --> 02:30:56.840
we could sit here and talk about
Biden and his ridiculousness with what's what

2107
02:30:56.920 --> 02:31:01.840
he said with his son, and
yeah, true, it's it's bs absolutely

2108
02:31:01.479 --> 02:31:05.840
What is the damage done? Is
yet another story. I mean, is

2109
02:31:05.920 --> 02:31:09.559
it just because of the lie?
Lying is damaging, sure, but lying

2110
02:31:09.600 --> 02:31:13.200
can also be useful in certain cases
if you don't let people know certain things

2111
02:31:13.239 --> 02:31:16.479
for strategic reasons, which is almost
the point he was trying to make.

2112
02:31:16.959 --> 02:31:20.600
I don't even blame him for it. I just find it strange that you

2113
02:31:20.680 --> 02:31:28.000
know that unrestrained commentary is is is
a good idea? Why anybody thinks that's

2114
02:31:28.040 --> 02:31:31.920
a good idea? I don't know, you know, But anyway, Hey,

2115
02:31:31.959 --> 02:31:33.959
we find out, I'd like to, you know, pulling out everybody,

2116
02:31:35.799 --> 02:31:37.520
you know, especially with the stuff
it's went on this week. And

2117
02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:41.680
I'm not gonna get in the who's
supposed to did walk with the hospital and

2118
02:31:41.719 --> 02:31:45.719
they were saying, but the stuff
that we're saying says this has been going

2119
02:31:45.799 --> 02:31:50.799
on that you know, all of
a sudden, this is gospel and it's

2120
02:31:50.920 --> 02:31:54.200
not blah blah blah. Listen to
more than one person, you know.

2121
02:31:54.360 --> 02:32:00.200
I just don't hardly listen to Fox
Music or but find somebody on the other

2122
02:32:00.319 --> 02:32:03.559
side. I listen to a lot
of Young Turk stuff, and hell,

2123
02:32:03.600 --> 02:32:07.440
I agree with sixty seventy percent of
us, and you know, basically the

2124
02:32:07.520 --> 02:32:11.440
thirty to forty that the don't,
I really don't, but listen to different

2125
02:32:11.520 --> 02:32:18.920
people, you know, and kind
of puts whatever facts you can together and

2126
02:32:18.120 --> 02:32:22.360
come together and kind of discern though
and make a decision on y'all not just

2127
02:32:22.520 --> 02:32:28.760
one hundred percent. This is absolutely
gospel. And the people that's saying that

2128
02:32:28.200 --> 02:32:33.559
the other side's lying, look at
it a little bit and see if they're

2129
02:32:33.639 --> 02:32:39.799
making a good case to say out
because a lot of this stuff it's just

2130
02:32:39.959 --> 02:32:45.559
like I said last week, it's
not looking good. I think we're living

2131
02:32:45.600 --> 02:32:54.200
in a time now that this just
because the Israel lobby says or whatever says

2132
02:32:54.280 --> 02:32:58.920
something to gospel. There's more people
than ever is sitting there scratching their head

2133
02:32:58.959 --> 02:33:03.360
and being like, well you know
about this stuff like that, and that

2134
02:33:03.879 --> 02:33:11.159
is absoually a lot of the problems. M fair enough. So anyways,

2135
02:33:11.920 --> 02:33:16.360
let get in there and say something. He's been over here tasting there you

2136
02:33:16.440 --> 02:33:24.680
go, vance exactly, dvance your
your closing thoughts for the week. Well,

2137
02:33:24.840 --> 02:33:30.079
like you know, Parland said,
you know, that's what everybody should

2138
02:33:30.079 --> 02:33:33.440
be. You know, it's amazing
how we've lost our innocence and and you

2139
02:33:33.520 --> 02:33:37.959
know, and I guess even maybe
our soul, you know, in this

2140
02:33:39.079 --> 02:33:41.879
country, how quick everybody is to
go to war and to you know,

2141
02:33:43.440 --> 02:33:46.239
start labeling people, you know,
to be less than and all that.

2142
02:33:46.440 --> 02:33:50.920
It just seems like that is so
easily flamed, you know, these days,

2143
02:33:52.040 --> 02:33:58.159
and and you know, the the
the notion that vp'd I just want

2144
02:33:58.200 --> 02:34:01.280
to make this comment. We'll discuss
it on time or whatever. But you

2145
02:34:01.360 --> 02:34:05.920
know, when we when talking about
you know, the Israelis gave you know,

2146
02:34:07.040 --> 02:34:09.280
Palestine their own government, let them, you know, let their government,

2147
02:34:09.360 --> 02:34:15.959
and that that that just kind of
had it gives me that Jones plantation,

2148
02:34:16.639 --> 02:34:18.440
you know vibe. You know that
you know here where you know,

2149
02:34:18.680 --> 02:34:22.920
you're in a place that's walled off. We got a wall around you,

2150
02:34:22.040 --> 02:34:26.120
and we get to decide when you
can and can't go, and who can

2151
02:34:26.239 --> 02:34:28.680
come and go across the wall.
And but you get to elect your own

2152
02:34:28.760 --> 02:34:33.360
leaders, so you're free what else
you want, you know, So I'm

2153
02:34:33.399 --> 02:34:35.559
sorry, that's just you know,
that makes no sense at all that you

2154
02:34:37.280 --> 02:34:43.239
know, regardless of you know,
those people's you know, uh animosity or

2155
02:34:43.280 --> 02:34:46.719
not animosity or whatever. It's like, you know, that doesn't that doesn't

2156
02:34:46.760 --> 02:34:52.239
seem like that adds up to me. So beyond that, I hope we

2157
02:34:52.319 --> 02:34:54.360
can. You know, the onset
of war is the fall of reasons.

2158
02:34:54.440 --> 02:34:58.479
So you know, there there hasn't
there. There's kind of be a good,

2159
02:34:58.840 --> 02:35:01.280
you know, a two states solution
that isn't set up this way obviously

2160
02:35:01.399 --> 02:35:05.079
the same way to set up that
two state solution, and maybe it's going

2161
02:35:05.159 --> 02:35:09.239
to have to have a war that's
going to lead to you know, the

2162
02:35:09.399 --> 02:35:13.000
conclusion that you know that will lead
to a better conclusion. But you know,

2163
02:35:13.079 --> 02:35:16.319
I hope it doesn't get that far. And you know, I for

2164
02:35:16.440 --> 02:35:20.200
one, don't support war anywhere on
the planet for you know, anything other

2165
02:35:20.319 --> 02:35:24.239
than being attacked. You know,
you know what I'm saying. You know,

2166
02:35:24.399 --> 02:35:28.000
so we know there were attacks and
you know, blah blah blah.

2167
02:35:28.079 --> 02:35:31.799
But yeah, next next week,
we'll figure it out. Next week,

2168
02:35:31.840 --> 02:35:37.559
we'll figure it out. You're still
an optimist. Have you seen Jones Plantation?

2169
02:35:39.360 --> 02:35:45.280
Now? It's an interesting movie,
man. Yeah, sorry, I

2170
02:35:45.319 --> 02:35:50.959
don't have to watch how they they
You can go on the youth bab it's

2171
02:35:50.959 --> 02:35:58.879
about thirteen minutes. And that was
the original that the full live action.

2172
02:35:58.159 --> 02:36:03.559
Maybe it was based to phone.
But this is like, you know,

2173
02:36:03.680 --> 02:36:05.639
it's kind of like just like pictures
and stuff. It ain't a live base

2174
02:36:05.799 --> 02:36:11.200
movie, but he gives the basis
of about thirteens. Just search on YouTube

2175
02:36:11.280 --> 02:36:16.159
Jones Plantations. You'll probably have to
go through the trailers for the live action

2176
02:36:16.399 --> 02:36:20.920
movie. You should be able to
see it, you know, just skinning

2177
02:36:22.040 --> 02:36:28.280
down through the search results. And
it's a pretty good little piece. We

2178
02:36:28.440 --> 02:36:33.239
played it on Tom Cooper Show probably
about what's it been advanced three weeks from

2179
02:36:33.319 --> 02:36:37.360
months ago. Larkin Rose is one
who made it, and it's got a

2180
02:36:37.360 --> 02:36:41.879
little age on it, so maybe
it several years ago. Yeah, I

2181
02:36:43.000 --> 02:36:46.040
got the years ago. I got
the link for the It was originally something

2182
02:36:46.079 --> 02:36:50.000
written by Larkin Rose, and I've
got the the you know, the one

2183
02:36:50.079 --> 02:36:52.559
with the pictures and stuff you're talking
about. I just put a link in

2184
02:36:52.600 --> 02:36:58.040
the chatroom at Chelly dot com to
it. Yeah, and now there's a

2185
02:36:58.120 --> 02:37:00.879
live action movie to it, which
is, you know, the same story

2186
02:37:03.040 --> 02:37:05.360
a little more drastically told. But
that's that's what the reference is. So

2187
02:37:05.399 --> 02:37:09.479
I was just curious that PPT had
seen it. So anyway, it's there

2188
02:37:09.559 --> 02:37:13.440
if you want to go through it
on YouTube. BPTE and uh, I

2189
02:37:13.479 --> 02:37:16.079
think they got the movie out there
for like a couple of bucks. It's

2190
02:37:16.120 --> 02:37:24.120
not that much. But it's a
it's an interesting story about you know,

2191
02:37:24.159 --> 02:37:28.120
I don't want to, Yeah,
I don't want to. I don't want

2192
02:37:28.120 --> 02:37:33.200
to spoil the story for you.
But it's about It starts out with this

2193
02:37:33.360 --> 02:37:39.079
concept about slavery and how they were
to transition into being free. And it's

2194
02:37:39.079 --> 02:37:43.360
an allegorical story. It's and I
leave it at that, and you should

2195
02:37:43.360 --> 02:37:48.680
probably judge it based on what it
is you view and see what you take

2196
02:37:48.719 --> 02:37:52.479
from it. Uh. That that's
where I thought. It's it's about our

2197
02:37:52.520 --> 02:37:58.319
political system and the free range slaves
that we are. Well, you know

2198
02:37:58.680 --> 02:38:01.399
that that would be a conclusion that
somebody could come to. But I would

2199
02:38:01.479 --> 02:38:05.319
leave it open to you and and
take a look at it and see what

2200
02:38:05.440 --> 02:38:09.440
you think of it. You know, you might reject it out of hand,

2201
02:38:09.159 --> 02:38:13.000
but but leave it open in your
mind when you go into it.

2202
02:38:13.399 --> 02:38:18.799
That's all I'm saying. And L
and we Yeah, definitely, we can

2203
02:38:18.840 --> 02:38:24.319
discuss it next week if you like. So. Anyways, b PTE,

2204
02:38:24.360 --> 02:38:26.920
I guess that sort of leaves it
to you. Now for the final word

2205
02:38:26.959 --> 02:38:35.360
of the week. Well, rather
than everybody go to the Chelly effect and

2206
02:38:35.440 --> 02:38:37.719
hit the donate button and He'll keep
this thing going. Other than that,

2207
02:38:39.360 --> 02:38:43.200
I can give an update on there
are some baseball fans out there. Currently,

2208
02:38:43.319 --> 02:38:50.079
the Chilly's are leading. They won
today, I believe. Yeah,

2209
02:38:50.200 --> 02:38:52.559
and they're leading their series to to
one against the Diamondbacks. No, I

2210
02:38:52.639 --> 02:38:56.840
take that back, they're leading.
I think you were right. I think

2211
02:38:56.840 --> 02:39:01.399
they're playing now. Yeah, right, they're leading, leading three. Wait,

2212
02:39:01.479 --> 02:39:03.399
I'm looking at the wrong one.
The Phillies are right now in the

2213
02:39:03.440 --> 02:39:09.000
bottom of the seventh they're leading the
Diamondbacks and they lead the series to one.

2214
02:39:09.440 --> 02:39:13.159
Okay. On the other side,
you got the Astros and the Rangers.

2215
02:39:13.200 --> 02:39:16.959
They played today. The Astros took
it, so they're ahead three to

2216
02:39:16.040 --> 02:39:20.239
two. There you go, and
out of these two series is going to

2217
02:39:20.280 --> 02:39:24.920
be our World Series, which will
start what about a week No, end

2218
02:39:24.959 --> 02:39:28.959
of the month. Man, it's
given later and later. Yeah, twenty

2219
02:39:28.040 --> 02:39:31.840
seventh of October. It's the first
game of the World Series. Yeah,

2220
02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:33.159
it's crazy. Usually it was,
it used to be. It was over

2221
02:39:33.280 --> 02:39:39.479
by now you could end it without
getting to October. Sometimes I think when

2222
02:39:39.520 --> 02:39:41.840
I was a kid, like you
didn't even have to quite get to October.

2223
02:39:41.879 --> 02:39:45.399
I think you might have touched on
October first, second, third,

2224
02:39:45.479 --> 02:39:48.440
maybe, Uh. Yeah, it
was when they expanded the first time.

2225
02:39:48.520 --> 02:39:52.319
You know, that's when what was
it Reggie Jackson became known as mister October

2226
02:39:52.399 --> 02:39:58.040
because that's when he always picked up
his playing ability was in the playoffs.

2227
02:39:58.319 --> 02:40:01.079
Yeah, so the Yankees then,
I think we was given that mantle.

2228
02:40:01.159 --> 02:40:05.559
But there you go. We got
a World Series starting in a couple of

2229
02:40:05.600 --> 02:40:09.959
weeks and it's going to be two
or four teams. We'll see who shows

2230
02:40:09.040 --> 02:40:11.719
up. Although we all know it's
not really the World Series. It's just

2231
02:40:11.840 --> 02:40:18.120
the American version of the World Series, American Canadian version sort oka. Canada's

2232
02:40:18.159 --> 02:40:20.360
got a couple of team No,
wait, Canada's only got one team.

2233
02:40:20.399 --> 02:40:24.079
Now they got one team? Yeah, Toronto, that's it. Once when

2234
02:40:24.120 --> 02:40:28.000
the Expos went out, that leaves
Toronto as the sole team. Yeah,

2235
02:40:28.079 --> 02:40:31.520
I just as I was speaking for
I have to admit I am a full

2236
02:40:31.600 --> 02:40:37.079
fledged Toronto Blue Jays fan, only
because I can't stand the Yankees and I

2237
02:40:37.159 --> 02:40:41.440
can't stand the Red Sox. So
I'll go with the Canadian Listen, anybody

2238
02:40:41.079 --> 02:40:45.319
anybody with the Yankees as far as
I'm concerned. And I was a Mets

2239
02:40:45.360 --> 02:40:48.559
fan, Yes, I know this
is problem. Like I told you,

2240
02:40:48.719 --> 02:40:52.319
Mets, Jets this is where your
star career goes to die. But anyway,

2241
02:40:52.639 --> 02:40:56.879
that's the way it rolls. And
there's also a controversy about the underpaid

2242
02:40:56.959 --> 02:41:01.040
quarterback at eight hundred and something thousand
dollars a year in San Francis. But

2243
02:41:01.280 --> 02:41:03.879
you know that knows I isn't that
a shame? Isn't that a shame?

2244
02:41:03.959 --> 02:41:07.239
That eight hundred thousand dollars a year
and you just can't make ends meet.

2245
02:41:07.479 --> 02:41:09.920
Well, what I would say,
though, look, and I get that,

2246
02:41:11.120 --> 02:41:13.520
and I feel you on that.
But at the same time, if

2247
02:41:13.559 --> 02:41:16.159
I'm the guy on the bottom of
that barrel, though, I'm pissed.

2248
02:41:16.959 --> 02:41:20.840
I gotta tell you, especially if
I'm doing well, I'm pissed because I

2249
02:41:20.959 --> 02:41:24.159
know there are guys that aren't even
like, you know, playing that are

2250
02:41:24.200 --> 02:41:28.440
getting paid better than me, that
aren't out there risking injury and possibly never

2251
02:41:28.479 --> 02:41:31.920
being able to walk again and taking
a you know, taking a hard enough

2252
02:41:33.000 --> 02:41:37.440
concussion that they might not know who
they are in five years, that are

2253
02:41:37.559 --> 02:41:41.040
not risking their lives basically, that
are getting paid more than me. I'm

2254
02:41:41.079 --> 02:41:46.040
pissed. Say, look, I'm
a Carolina Panthers fan. We've been dealing

2255
02:41:46.079 --> 02:41:48.840
with that since the team was created. You know, our next big draft

2256
02:41:48.879 --> 02:41:52.319
pick is going to save the world. And what do we end up with

2257
02:41:52.520 --> 02:41:56.840
right now, we're at zero to
six. I'm sick and tired of paying

2258
02:41:56.920 --> 02:42:01.040
multi million dollar salaries to individuals who
can't hold on to the ball. Well

2259
02:42:01.079 --> 02:42:03.639
look, look, Carolina Panthers guy, I was a Jets fan and of

2260
02:42:05.159 --> 02:42:11.399
arguments. Anyway, get credit.
Now they've been doing well, They've will

2261
02:42:11.440 --> 02:42:15.639
come up this year, even with
all their setbacks this year. Yeah,

2262
02:42:15.760 --> 02:42:18.239
but don't worry. Before it gets
to the end of the year, they'll

2263
02:42:18.239 --> 02:42:20.280
blow it. Anyways. That is
the way it is, and that's the

2264
02:42:20.360 --> 02:42:24.600
way it was, and that's the
week that was on the Ocelli Effects.

2265
02:42:24.600 --> 02:42:26.639
So no matter who you are,
where you are, when you are,

2266
02:42:26.799 --> 02:42:30.120
I'm nearly Ocelly, all of you
are indeed the effect. And if you

2267
02:42:30.200 --> 02:42:33.719
do donate to the Ocelli Effect and
the network at this point, yes,

2268
02:42:33.799 --> 02:42:37.559
indeed, you'll help me pay the
bills and also help us get to Dallas,

2269
02:42:37.639 --> 02:42:41.120
where I am planning on creating a
bunch of video and stuff and hopefully

2270
02:42:41.159 --> 02:42:46.120
putting out another little mini documentary about
this trip, which will be more interesting

2271
02:42:46.159 --> 02:42:52.000
because we're celebrating ten years of this
show. And also going to be there

2272
02:42:52.079 --> 02:42:56.040
for the sixtieth anniversary of the JFK
assassination. So anyway, that's that,

2273
02:42:56.719 --> 02:42:58.600
good night everybody,