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And say a prayer for the Archbishop
Dennis Snur who finds himself in difficult situations

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in the local hospital. He asks
me to pass along to some that he

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needs your prayers. Tony Benner is
going to start saying the Rosary. I'm

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not sure Tony Benner knows what the
rosary is, but he tells me he's

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going to start saying win for the
archbishop who's sick. But until then,

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of course, speaking about sick.
David Young is the Warren County Commissioner,

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and just for the purposes of this
great telephone call, we're going to put

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him in charge of Hamilton County in
the City of Cincinnati. We texted earlier

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this morning and he said, Hey, by the way, what's the main

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topic? And I said, Commission
Chaos, Bengals Lease, future Commissions,

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ignored police, standing down, campus
riots, and more. And you say,

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oh, great, David Young,
Commissioner of Warren County, welcome to

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the Bill Cunningham Show. And first
of all the chaos, let's deal with

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the Futures Commission, in which the
City of Cincinnati got together the mothers and

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the fathers, the mamas and the
papas of Cincinnati, the CEO of Parcter

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and Gamble, Procter and God and
more. These are the experts. They

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put a few community leaders in there
just to say we did. And they

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came up with a slew of recommendations, including selling the water plant, selling

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golf courses, selling it all,
taking the retirement system in the City of

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Cincinnati, give it to pr S, plus all these other about raising taxes

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more for garbage pickup, et cetera. Just give me an overview if afterb

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puival, your good friend would get
ahold of you and Saint David Young.

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Warren County is out of debt,
out of hawk, you live within your

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means. It's a great place to
live. The schools are functioning, the

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police have powers in Warren County.
What two or three pieces of information would

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you pass on afterbt puival to improve
the city of Cincinnati. Afternoon, Willie

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how was actually in a meeting with
them with the esteem mayor last week.

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Nice enough guy, I like the
mayor. But yeah, they've got a

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tough, tough job down there.
And and honestly, I'm actually reading you

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know when you told me, uh, you know, hours and hours ago

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what the topics were doing today.
I've spent minutes and minutes researching these different

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topics, and I think I've come
up with somewhat of a solution. Oh.

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I don't know if you know this, but I'm sitting up. I'm

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sitting up. I've got a pen
and paper. Go give me to me.

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You could write this one down,
all right. Government, Government should

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live what's in its means, and
there's an end within means. Okay.

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Number two, government can't do everything
for all residents and do all for all.

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Okay, I got that written down. Now tell me in a concrete

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way the Futures Commission, and if
you've got Ampta a pair of all whispering

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in his ear, tell me the
top two or three practical things that must

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be done. Number One, that
their spending is out of whack. And

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this is what happens in governments.
That a lot of times governments. One

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of the little secrets of governments is
people. A lot of times. When

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I first took office, like twenty
years ago, to work in the public

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sector, and you know, you
knew this from way back when in the

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prosecutor's officer what have you, that
government employees generally made less than private sector

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employees. But there was a couple
of advantages of being a government employee for

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making less money than the private sector. Number one, generally you had better

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job security. You know, government
generally doesn't fire you or lay you off

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like private sectors do. And then
number two was the retirement plan. Yep,

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the retirement plan that government employees have
is off the hook. Back in

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my investment days, I used to
manage a bunch of four on one K

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plans for different employers around town.
And it's not even close how good government

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pensions because most people do four on
one cage now where you put a discretionary

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amount of money in and it grows
based on stock market or what have you,

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and then at the end, hopefully
you have more than a million bucks.

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And that system works when you do
that stuff for a very long period

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of time. You put a little
bit of money in, you invest it,

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you invest in America and generally not
generally, it does work over thirty

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forty year periods of time. However, what doesn't work necessarily is a defined

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benefit plan where based on how much
money you work earn, we the employer,

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are going to promise to pay you
a percentage of your salary. That

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was always based on these guarantees,
and we know one thing with the economy

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is guarantees don't happen very much,
especially when you're based on these high rates

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of returns and these ten percent interest
rates and things like that. So Cincinnati

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found itself in a situation. What
I learned was their pension plan is way,

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way, way upside down. They
owe I forget it, tens of

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millions. It's not one hundred million
dollars of unfunded pension liability, and that

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has to be there. So there
was suggestions in this features reportable, you

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know, turn that over to the
state's pension board. Right, they don't

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want it because it's so upside down. Four hundred million is the number that's

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been reported in the enquire that the
City of Cincinnati is upside down four hundred

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million dollars and the easy solution is
to sell the golf courses or sell the

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Cincinnati water works. Get more than
four hundred million dollars, pay that off

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and the state will accept. Well, the state pers I know the members

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of the board, they want nothing
to do with the City of Cincinnati accepting

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them into the state pension plan because
they don't trust the ability of the City

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of Cincinnati to make any payments of
any type. And they don't want to

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sell the water, and they don't
want to sell the golf courses. They

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had to sell, I guess the
railroad because of the great deal for one

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point six billion dollars to Norfolk Southern, and that did happen. However,

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the city, and when you talk
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say one thing they're not going to
do is sell the water and sell the

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golf courses. They're not going to
do that. In fact, for that

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to happen, the voters have got
to step up and agree to do that,

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and they won't do it. So
they got five thousand retired employees and

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about another five thousand coming and a
four hundred million dollar hole. The only

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way to do it is to sell
an asset, to try to get them

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to go to PERS, which prs
will not accept. And so assuming none

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of that happens, assuming pers will
not accept them into the state system,

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and assuming the city will not sell, what happens sell the assets? What

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happens. Right to fully fund its
pension obligations, the city needs to contribute

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sixty million a year until twenty forty
five. It paid about forty two million

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dollars in the current fiscal year,
so it's upside down eighteen million dollars per

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year. Yeah, and the total
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to plug that hole. So that's
not going away. So as bad as

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the city's budget is right now,
it's actually much worse because it's eighteen million

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dollars unfunded pension liability in there too, so out of their one point six

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billion dollar budget, Willie, it's
it's not a good situation. And I

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think this goes to what you and
I have talked about for a long period

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of time. Government and people always
ask, well, how is one county

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in such a great financial shape?
You know, people say we're the best,

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not just the state, maybe the
nation. It's a very easy answer.

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When you live within your means,
you don't promise everything to everyone.

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Taxpayer money is not like going into
the candy store. It's easy to really

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quote unquote buy votes. You start
handing out money. What do you think

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they're doing in Washington right now with
ending student debt. They're buying votes one

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hundred and seventy five billion dollars to
four and a half million people. They're

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trying to buy votes with money we
don't have because he is messed up and

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as jacked up as the City of
Cincinnati financial structure is. You know what's

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worse, Willie, the federal government. How about one trillion dollars of new

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money is barred every one hundred days. So let's put that issue to the

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side. You're telling me they got
a little bit of a problem here,

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like four hundred million, and it
grows every year, and by twenty years

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from now, it's going to be
a billion dollars. They won't deal with

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that because it is too painful.
Number two, I want to get you

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on in the Bengals. Lease.
We all love the Bengals, want them

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to stay. The window is open. And when I talk to your friend

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Alisha Reese, she tells me that
other cities like Kansas City with the Chiefs,

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in Chicago with the Bears, the
NFL and the owners of the club

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are putting in hundreds of millions of
dollars, in fact, billions of dollars

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to build new stadiums, to refurbish
their president stadiums. When the issue was

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on the ballot in Kansas City,
it went't down hard like a cold butt

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on a hot July afternoon. You
had Patrick Mahomes, you had Kelsey,

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everybody talking about Taylor Swift, singing
songs about it. The voters had a

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chance vote and it was fifty eight
percent. Not no, fifty eight percent.

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Hell no, we're not contributing hundreds
of millions or billions of dollars to

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the Hunt family, who are worth
about twelve billion dollars. So you got

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the Bengals lease coming up, and
we all went to Bengals to stay.

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I think they are going to stay, but the county says, no,

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Moss, we can't afford it.
Solve the Bengals lease. David Young,

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I would look at something a little
bit outside of the box and try to

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be creative. There is something called
new community authorities, which under Ohio law

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says in a particular district that one
district that's clearly defined has certain abilities,

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including certain taxation aspects. That with
something like this, I would look at

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doing some sort of a user fee, that is, it's an increase to

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the sales tax in a specific district. Because again, it is a hard

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sell to people. I'm not a
sports fan, I'm not this you know,

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why would I pay for this.
So this is a kind of a

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backdoor way of user fees that users. You know, it's like a gas

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tax. You know who maintains the
highways, well, people that drive on

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it unless you're in the electric vehicle, and now all of a sudden,

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you're not paying a gas tax,
which is you know, a systemic problem

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long term. But with the Bengals
lease, I would look at doing something

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creative with trying to get there's so
many people that go to that district and

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we all know keeping the Bengals in
town is a big deal. That's one

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of the reasons we were so involved
with keeping the tennis tournament in town because

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there's an impression and a perception that
Greater Cincinnati, Warren County, City of

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Mason they're major league towns. And
when major league sporting teams or events start

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leaving you, that sends a message
to the marketplace of well, maybe they

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don't have it going on there,
Maybe my free market capital investment for a

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tennis tournament or owning an NFL franchise
should maybe go somewhere else. And then

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all of a sudden, those employers
that in a competitive world or saying where

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do I want to expand or place
my new secondary corporate headquarters, or an

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international company looking to come to the
US and go into the Midwest. Where

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am I going to invest my hard
earned capital? We wait a second.

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If the perception is this was a
major league city and now people are starting

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to flee, not just a little
bit, but maybe even in droves,

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Man, do I want to invest
there? So you're talking about a user

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fee from the river, maybe the
Central Parkway. Of course, you got

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Saint Francis Serah with hundreds of homeless
degenerates fornicating and copulating and pooping and peeing

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in public. That's a different issue. We'll get that's issue number three.

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Put that off to the side.
So you're saying a special user's fee from

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the river may up up to Central
Parkway. So for those who specifically benefit

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from that, much like Sycamore Township
was so wise to tax people like Tony

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Bender living working in this special tax
district in Kenwood. But if you live

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in Sycamore Township, work in Sycamore
Township, of course you don't pay the

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tax, which is a very important
aspect of this. But nonetheless, tax

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those who don't have a vote,
and then they will collect the money benefit

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Sycamore Township, and a way we
go. Let's go to issue number three,

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which is the more the easy one
to solve. We've taken care of

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the Futures Commission, We've taken care
of the pension system, we've taken care

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of the Bengals lease. Now we've
got a bigger problem, which is Cincinnati

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Public schools, which is an F. The state have testing and there's an

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F, there's a G, and
an H. They're down to H at

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this point. Before they get to
an F, they're below F. Seventy

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five percent of black boys don't attend. They're chronically absent. You have massive

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lawlessness in which kids are running rampant
on the banks, going nuts. You

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have beatings taking place on Fountain Square
and also in Government Square. You have

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bus routes in which individuals put their
life in their hand getting on a bus.

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They might have your head treated like
a soccer ball kicked around. Then

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you go to juvenile court. Nothing
happens there, you get released. You

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can be literally a murderer and get
out of juvenile court without much punishment.

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So, having solved these other two
important problems, let's get David Young.

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Initial number three, chronically absenteeism,
no education about twenty five thousand dollars per

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kid per year. You graduate with
a certificate but not a diploma, What

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would you do with the school system
go? A very wise person once told

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me that if you do I believe
three very simple things, you have like

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a ninety chance of doing well in
life. Let me ride this. Number

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one, don't get arrested in other
worse nor do not become a criminal.

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That's number one, Tony Bender,
write that down. Don't be a criminal,

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okay. Number two. Number two, graduate from high school, which

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may not be worth anything, but
you can say, look, I graduated,

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m u's I got my I got
a high school discipline, showed discipline

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that you showed up. Number three, don't have kids out of wedlock,

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because what happens then is we're re
being what we sewed because that model,

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which was actually your statistics, which
you're the wise guy, wise man that

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actually told me this was those three
things contribute to you know, ninety something

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percent success rate. So what's happened
is people have not followed that the last

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couple of decades, and now all
of a sudden, the kids that I

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feel for those kids I have a
heart for those kids. They don't know

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any better. No one's told them
no. Most of the time, single

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parent household, where all of a
sudden, people are not paying them attention.

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And the number one thing is they
don't have any discipline, Willy.

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No one's telling them no, there's
no ramifications for actions. Oh, you're

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allowed to do this because you've been
blanked. You know throughout your life you

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have red hair, you have this, or you have some problem that makes

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you special, and therefore you don't
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we're seeing it on the college campuses, Willy. So you have eighteen nineteen

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year olds that are going spitting in
cops spaces, saying let's kill this entire

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ethnic group or what have you,
And all of a sudden they get in

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the cops space, and all of
a sudden, the cop is picking them

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up, them throwing them to the
ground, and they're like, oh,

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my goodness, I can't believe they've
ever done this. Of course, that's

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what the police are going to do
if you do that to them, or

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at least back when you and I
were growing up, that would be a

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normal Friday night if I if I
mess around with the wrong Blue ash Or

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Montgomery cop and said the wrong thing. I was going to be on the

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hood of their car, and I
guess what, I wasn't going to do

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that again. So we have issues
resolved at this point. There's a movement

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of foot to take the homeless,
which should be mentally ill, drug addicted,

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reconstitute Longview State Mental Hospital. Put
them in a facility until they can

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quit pooping in public and quit dealing
with drugs and fornicating. For five dollars,

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put them a long View State Mental
Hospital they used to be have five

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hundred beds there. We have a
functional court system that holds people accountable.

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And if we do those simple things, people won't be move into Warren County

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because right now people go to Boone
County, Warren County, getting County,

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Butler County, they go to Lawrensburg. Get the hell out. We can't

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take it anymore. So if you
do those three simple things, take care

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of the city when it comes to
their financial mismanagement, take care of the

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Bengals, lease and then tell kids, don't be a criminal, graduate from

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high school, don't have kids out
of wedlock, and by the way,

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work do those things. It's simple
David Young, if available, will you

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come and conduct a course in Hamilton
County in the City of Cincinnati to tell

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have to have parival and others there
is a better way, Willie. I

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mean, I would be happy to
hold a masterclass on government efficiency and how

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to do things. But honestly,
I don't think anybody south of Fieldsrtle would

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ever attend. They have their own
way of doing things. And that's one

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of the problems with today's world,
Willy. Once you placate and play up

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to a certain constitution Tucy that you
believe got you into office, and they're

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the only people that can keep you
into office, then all of a sudden,

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you're not going to do anything,
which is what your both to office

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really is. That you're going to
do what's best in all loss of the

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constitution of the State of Ohio.
You're going to do what's best for the

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people you represent. But a lot
of times our politicians don't necessarily do that.

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They do what's best for getting them
reelected, and they don't make the

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hard choices that sometimes go against the
constituencies that voted them in. Because we're

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in a representative democracy, we represent
the people. It's not a straight democracy,

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Willie. We don't vote on every
issue, so they elect people to

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represent you. I tell you what, David Young, you're available. I

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talked to Rob Sanders, he's available. I talked to Jesse Brewer, He's

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available a master class. I will
contact city Council and the Hamlin County Commission

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to say if they will listen.
David Young, once again, thank you

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for coming on the Old Cunningham Show. May God bless you and God bless

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America. David Young, thank you
very much. Pleasure, God bless you,

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William, God bless Warren County,
Hell and blessing everybody. Right now,

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