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Hi, this is Fredgreen from the
Golf Smarter Podcast. This is part two

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of our extended series with Tonymanzoni,
who passed away in twenty eighteen. Even

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if you've heard these episodes in the
past, it's a great reminder to reiterate

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Tony's teaching methods that he communicates so
effectively and based on your feedback, works

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incredibly well. What we're doing differently
this year versus what we've done the last

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few years is that I'm replaying these
episodes in the dated order they were originally

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published. Tony's book The Loss Fundamental, One Simple Move Better Golf Forever is

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once again available on Amazon, including
the Kindle format, and his video of

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the same name can now only be
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Please visit Golfsmarter dot com. Tony. Please make sure that Tony is all

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lower case. Thanks so much for
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Golf Smarter number two fifty four,
recorded on October twenty six, twenty ten.

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The single Pivot swing in detail with
Tony Manzoni. This is Golf Smarter,

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sharing tips and insights from golfers and
golf professionals to help lower your score.

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It's worked for your host, Fred
Green. Welcome and thanks for downloading

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the Golf Smarter Podcast. A few
episodes ago, we had a conversation with

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Tony Manzoni, who claimed to have
unearthed the secret to Ben Hogan's golf swing.

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Tony calls it the single Pivot swing
and he'll soon be opening this Single

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Pivot Academy down in Palm Desert,
California, where he coaches and teaches at

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College of the Desert. Well after
that podcast, not only did Tony get

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a number of calls requesting a coaching
session, I received many emails wanting more

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in depth information. So I called
him and luckily we caught Tony before he

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left the country for meetings in China, and he was more than willing to

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discuss his theories in detail. Welcome
back to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Tony,

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Hey, how are you today.
I'm doing well and I'm so glad

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that we caught you. I understand
you're going to be leaving the country any

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minute, right, Yeah, I'm
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officials about doing some golf courses there, and also created some golf schools and

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kind of tied into what we're doing
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Desert. Wow, that's very exciting. It is, and it's my first

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trip to Asia, and I'm so
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I think that's a hotspot for all
the golf activity in the world. One

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of my business acted We're not just
golf, yeah, oh yeah, everything,

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everything, and golf is kind of
the criteria for people that are working

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in various industries to do business.
In my golf management program, I get

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a lot of boys from Korea and
China that have been sent here by employers

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so that they get some form of
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then also a little bit about teaching, but primarily to get their skills up

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so that they can play golf and
do business on the golf course. Very

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interesting. Well, and part of
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management. Correct, that's correct,
Yes, that's correct, very very good.

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So when you were on the show
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Watch and among other things, but
we wanted to talk about your single pivot

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swing, and I've got to ask
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you were kind of vague about it, which was okay, but I was

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inundated with emails and phone calls from
listeners around the world saying, wait a

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minute, I want more. You
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even talk about it. So it's
not much that I would call someone back

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and say, hey, can you
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in a couple of weeks. Usually
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but this time we had to call
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more about the single pivot swing.
I hope you well, I can do

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that. I can do that for
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and I think we've kind of got
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this thing. When I came up
with a method through years of research and

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especially watching Ben Hogan, I wasn't
sure myself, because when you're thinking a

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little bit out of the box as
an instructor, there's always a question,

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well, you know, have I
flipped my wig here or have I really

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found something? And it took a
while for me to realize that this is

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valid, this is what Hogan did, because there's been a lot of people

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saying they knew what he did,
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it. I'm not sure it's everything
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that in watching some of the film
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his later years, this is exactly
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Well, and one of the comments
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believe he doesn't have a website,
not even a simple one. So you

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need to explain this. And it's
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with a gentleman by the name of
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fine co writer, and I speak
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to keep that flavor in the book
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so Paul does have a website that
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we will have a lot of information. And then Golf Illustrated, because I'm

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working with them with a single pivot
golf school. They have the Golf Illustrated

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has just gone online and they have
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to be doing kind of golf fignettes
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Al Geiberger, Mike Lyons, and
Brian Geiberger. That's the force for some

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of us. And also a young
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our female instructor about to single pivot, how you have to set up to

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it, because setup is really important
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in the single pivot golf swing is
we're eliminating the lateral move, the shift

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from the right leg to the left
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There have been many great players that
played off the left side, but no

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one has ever really explained it in
detail how you do it and what are

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the functions and so forth. So
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has happened, is that I've watched
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a lot of people, especially elderly
people, and now that this doesn't work

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for young people because my golf team
are all you know, they all kill

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the ball and they're all playing off
of one axis. But I saw that

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older people, people that always said
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I can't finish the swing anymore.
I can't get any distance. Increase their

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distance just two to three clubs by
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by setting them to the ball correctly, and then keeping them there throughout the

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motion so that there's not a lot
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they can clear their left side.
They can turn their chest left of the

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target and get the right shoulder pointing
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that, the left arm stack is
connected high on the chest. And that's

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the secret of this. It's playing
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tilting the shoulders, so this is
not stack and tilt. And I don't

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mean to infer that what they do
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into those things. But you can't
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tilting your shoulders, especially on the
through swing, you're going to end up

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in what we used to call a
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of strain on the lower back.
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era that finished with the head back
and the body kind of in a sea

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position, they all were troubled with
their back in later years. And if

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you see any pictures of him,
he posts it up so that he was

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on a straight line because he didn't
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and under to hit the golf ball. When you do that, you have

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to turn your arms over. There's
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You can turn your arms over and
hit it, or you can rotate your

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body and keep your arm connected to
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a gear. So when you set
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thing you're going to do is you're
going to set up sixty forty sixty percent

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of your weight on your left foot
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why you're doing that is because you're
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your left foot, and that's impact. Is when we hit the golf ball,

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whether we sway off the ball and
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we're going to end up. But
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against impact to start with. So
we've positioned the legs in the proper position,

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and now all we have to do
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body and we're gonna coil the body
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We're going to stay our face will
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Okay, So the right shoulder and
the right hip are going to turn

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behind us and that's going to pull
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Well that Donald, I'm going to
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because as you're describing this, not
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I'm standing up, I got a
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I'm sure there are people who listeners
right now who are on a commute

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train standing there doing this with so
so let me just let me just kind

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of visualize this. So when I'm
bringing my hands back, I'm not bringing

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my hands up. I'm bringing my
hands more. You're you're not and you're

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well, yeah, but you're not
bringing your hands back. Your arms are

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connected to your body and you're turning
your you're turning your upper torso, and

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your arms are being moved to a
position behind you. The arms are in

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front of you, okay, and
they're going to stay in front of you

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in the addressed position. But as
your body, as your body is rotating

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and it's it's turning, it's turning
around, the right shoulder is now be

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displaced behind the spine and the right
hip is being displaced behind the spine,

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so your right side is turning.
There's no there's no lateral move back,

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there's no there's no sway back to
low power. You're coiling. Imagine a

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wall against your right shoulder. Okay, you're going to turn inside that wall

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with your right side, and that
movement will take the club back into a

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position. And everybody is different because
we are all built differently. Some people

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have a lot of flexibility, some
don't. Some are short waists, some

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are long legged. So there's no
position you can say you have to take

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the club here. So by connecting
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at address, we from a single
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and we we stay against that brace, almost the feeling of there's an imaginary

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wall on your left side. Okay. So now from that position, you're

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gonna coil the upper body staying centered. Okay. So when we coil,

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we're not gonna tilt our head to
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that ball. So the right shoulder, right hip go behind us, and

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the club the arms will follow.
The left arm is going to go across

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the chest. This is a big
This is the big key, it's going

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to go across the chest, and
the left arm should sit fairly high on

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the left pectoral muscle. Okay.
Years ago, there was a great player

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by the name of Dick Mayer.
He won the US Open, the World

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Open. I had a little problems
with alcohol in his later years, and

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I met him and he used to
watch me hit balls, and he used

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to say, son, you've got
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and he meant the nipple. Okay. And he and he wrote a book

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subsequent to that that gerald Ford was
in the gerald Ford Library. He gave

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me the book, and in that
book it says that everybody has an area

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in the body that defines where the
left arm should be. In that sh

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the left arm should be right above
that nipple of the on the man on

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the left pectoral muscle. Okay.
And he would watch me hit balls and

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say, you got to keep your
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used to think this guy's whacked out
because I had no idea what he was

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talking about, until I learned that
that position is paramount to hitting the ball

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solid and straight time after time after
time, because when the left arm stays

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high in the chest. The only
way it can move because it's connected to

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the body is the rotation of the
body opening up through the target, kind

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of like if you've ever seen Anika
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a real rotator of the golf swing
and it looked like her body was facing

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the target at impact. And that's
exactly what it was. So if people

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out in the audience would stand up, if they can do this and put

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their arm right across their body and
then take their right arm and hold their

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left arm high against the chest,
and then just turn the body and see

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how the arm moves with it.
It's not coming off the chest, it's

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still pressed against it. But if
you keep turning left, the club will

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square itself. Now you talk about
seniors being able to do this. What

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kind of to me? The way
you're describing this In this rotation, it

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seems like a lot of flexibility is
required. I mean, you have,

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oh, no, none at all. I'm believing I'm about as flexible as

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a solid pretzel. I can't.
I can't touch my toes. Okay,

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I'm lucky if I can get past
my knees when I bend over. But

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I can do this. Oh yeah, I can do this. Hey,

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I'm seventy four years old. You
know, an atrophy is snuck in there

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somewhere. And now I try to
stay as limber as I can. But

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really, I'm not going to yoga, I'm not doing stretching. But what

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I found is that all all,
if you put your arms across your chest

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like you see guys chriss cross their
arms, and you get in a swinging

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position, you set yourself off against
the left side brace and just turn the

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top part. You're going to turn
it enough to where your back is to

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the target. Even less than that
is fine, okay, But if you're

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turning your right side behind you,
that's this is the ticket. If you

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try to turn your left shod over
your chin, it's harder to do.

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If you take your right side and
pull it back behind you towards the target.

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That's the keyword, towards the target. Because at the top of your

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swing, your weight is now seventy
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on your left side, the seventy
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started sixty forty. Because you're displacing
your weight behind you and it's going behind

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you towards the target. You have
now braced up seventy thirty. The left

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knee has not pulled back from the
ball or pulled back to go towards the

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ball or behind it. The left
knee is pointed straight to the toe of

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the left foot. Okay, in
your rotation, your your knee is pointed

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to your foot. You're not banking
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you're You're both knees are bent.
Okay, I'm because I'm trying to talk

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you through this. Okays. I
as I turn my right pocket and my

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right shoulder behind me, okay,
towards my left heel towards my left heel.

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As I do that, my left
knee points towards my toe on your

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left left foot, left foot,
the right leg will elongate, it'll get

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it won't lock, but it'll get. It'll get steeper. Okay. So

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now you're now you're braced on your
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Okay, So you're there. Okay. Now all we're all we're doing is

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we've coiled the top part of the
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So now all there is left by
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Okay, we just unwind our chest
through the target around the left leg,

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and we finished with the chest pointing
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We're pointing at the target. And
trust me when I tell you I

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have I've got an eighty six year
old man that when he first came to

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me and he took the club back, he looked like a tree falling to

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the right. He had no conception
of turn. I've got him on his

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left side now and he's hitting the
ball farther now than he did when he

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was in his fifties because he's hitting
it with his whole body. He's not

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working down under so that his arms
have to flip over so that the arms

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leave the body. He's hitting it
with his chest, his core, his

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hips, and the last thing through
is the clubhead, so as his body

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unwinds, the clubhead hits the ball. Now, if you're on the right

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side and you try to do this, you're gonna you're gonna spin out open.

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You're gonna spin open, but you
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on your left side. As you
start unwinding, you can open up as

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early as you want, and you're
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Now, now the key here,
the key as we do this is

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that the left arm must stay on
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So you're gonna be turning level.
You are not gonna work be working down.

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You're gonna stay level like Hogan did
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gonna smash the ball. And the
by product of this is that whether you

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pull it or push it, and
we will do that for our life,

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no one's gonna hit it dead straight
at the pin every time. They're gonna

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push it a little right, but
there'll be no side spin on the ball

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because the club head is held square
throughout the heating area. There's no rotation

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to square it. It's square from
the beginning to the end. Okay,

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So you'll pull it or push it
dead straight, So your your shot dispersion

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is going to get real narrow,
real narrows. So you're gonna start hitting.

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You're gonna hit a lot of greens
and a lot of fairways, and

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you're gonna hit the ball much more
solid, which will make your average hit

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further. See you when we move
off the golf ball, and it's a

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trend in teaching at one time,
the Nicholases, the Palmers, they stayed

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right on the ball their head and
did not move. It didn't move because

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they didn't make that little lateral move
on the backswing. And then all of

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a sudden, instructures starts saying it's
okay to move your head, and I'm

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here to tell you that's a bunch
of bs. It isn't okay to move

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your head because you got to move
it back to the place you started,

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because that's your center before you hit
the golf ball. And you know,

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unless you're neuria Of or somebody like
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especial when you get past fifty.
So that's why so many people, you

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know, we have a driving ring
chare at the college and you see people

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and they're just locked back on that
right foot. The ball goes right,

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and their instructor says, will shift
your weight. Well, that's that's the

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problem. They did shift their weight. They put too much weight on the

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right foot early. Yeah, once
you get back on that right side unless

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you unless you have an athletic body. And even the athletic guys that are

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arm swingers every now and then they're
all all over the place. I mean,

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you look at Dustin Johnson and tremendous
athlete, tremendous strength. He can

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hit the ball two miles, but
every now and then he can hit it

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so far off to Faarrowey Mickelson another
arms swinging around the downswing. But you

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can see it when the when the
arms come down, the body can't.

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The body can't rotate and the arms
come down at the same time. One.

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So if the body doesn't, if
the arms come down, the body's

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going to follow the arms when they
when the when you're a rotator, the

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arms always follow the body. And
and and because you're not turning the club

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over, the club head isn't going
to be opened a long time, closed

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a long time, and square for
just a moment. So now you're you're

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eliminating one of the things that happens
to all of us as soon as you

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get anxious, as soon it means
something. You know, our our eye

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hand coordination runs down our leg I
mean that I don't care who it is.

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Uh. You saw Dustin Johnson in
that one tournament where he stood in

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a bunker, Well, he didn't
have to be in that bucker if he

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could have just hit the ball in
the faraway. But because he's he has

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to square that club with his arms. As soon as it gets really important,

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you're gonna you're just you're gonna hang
on or you're gonna release it too

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early. See, And that's what
Hogan, that's what he really figured out.

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And in his later years he made
statements, I square the golf club

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with my body. Okay, well
that's how, But he didn't tell you

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how to do it. That's what
the single pit was school and concept is

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about. It tells you how to
do it. And I want to tell

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you. Uh And I don't mean
to brag, but I am going to

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brag. Since I've been teaching.
Yes, since I've been teaching this,

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I have had nothing but repeat business
and nothing but referral business, and people

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tell sending me emails and tell me
I never hit the ball like this.

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I haven't hit it like this since
I was a kid. Blah blah blah

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blah blah. And it works.
I've got al Geiberger, who's a pretty

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good golfer in his day, doing
this, Okay. Al geiber was voted

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as having the top one of the
top swings of the top five best wings

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and he is now a single pivot
player. Okay, I have a terrific

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teacher from Canada that was reluctant to
this at first, although he tried to

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stay centered to the ball, but
once he got all the pieces together,

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his following now is expanded tremendously because
you get instant results. I know one

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of the guys that heard your podcast
came down to see me. Really yeah,

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oh yeah, I've had two actually
I had two lessons and this one

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young man great to hear. Thank
you. Yeah, and what do you

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shoot? He said, well,
I'm about a twenty handicap. So I

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said, well, I hit a
few balls from me, and I saw

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he had his hands out of position
and he's just swinging back on the golf

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ball and with no power. And
then here he's in this probably early thirties

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and well built guy, and here
I'm this over the hill pro and I

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get up there with a nine iron
and I'm hitting the pass where he's hitting

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the seven aar and I mean way
past, And he's where are you getting

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on all with that power? And
I said, because you're hitting it with

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your flick of your wrists and I'm
hitting it with my whole body. And

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I got him in position, and
i'll tell you, after about the fifteenth

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golf ball, he was blasting another. So I've never hit a ball this

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far in my life. Oh,
get me the chills. Believe me when

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I tell you it gives me the
chills because my passion is teaching, and

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I'm you know, we all want
to make money, but I promise you

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this is this is like an elixir
for me because I finally found something that

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really works for I don't care what
level player. And I've got some I've

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got some kids. I've got a
twelve year old, and I'm going to

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give a plane lesson too. She's
had six lessons, and she has so

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far and so straight, it's just
ridiculous. But she's she's blessed. But

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she's also she's also lucky that she
got a fellow like me that didn't teach

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her shift to the right, shift
to the left, because she'd be chasing

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that monkey for a long long time. Well, I'll tell you, my

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passion is finding people like you to
share this knowledge. So I'm glad that

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we've found each other now. I
received an email from a listener in Joplin,

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Missouri, and he had a number
of questions. He says that I

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just finished it and I had a
lot of questions. Instead of writing to

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you, he thought he'd write to
me so that maybe I can ask you

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again. And you mentioned a couple
of times about Hogan's later year later years.

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He was just curious, is that
the is those later years? Is

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that after he wrote the Five Lessons? Oh yeah, way after, way

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after. Okay. So he says
that he's intrigued by what you're describing and

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he's read Hogan's Five Lessons and it
really didn't help him as much as would

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he would like. He wants to
well, if you listen, if you

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read the Hogans, there's a lot
of really great stuff in Hogan's but what

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he says in there, and you
know, I mean they asked him near

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his death because he went to Golf
Golf Digest in the nineties to release a

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secret, but he wanted a six
figure payment and they refuse, and so

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I think he took it to the
grave with him. But they asked him

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in his later years, well,
what was your secret? What really was

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it? Because there's been a lot
of speculation, and he said, they're

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going to have to dig it out
of the dirt like I did. And

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I just love him for that because
he had no gruz, he had no

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real video, nothing to work with. He had to get out there and

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just beat balls. But he got
an idea in a dream state. And

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I know what that I really believe
I know what that idea was. And

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it wasn't weakening his grip and all
that pronation and supper nation stuff. I

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mean, he may have done that, but I've got film and you can

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look at him at the top of
his swing and his weight is on top

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of his left side, his right
leg is so steep, been so braced,

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and you can see he's right there
ready to rotate. So he eliminated

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that transitional move that I don't care
who you are, whether you're a tour

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player or a high handicapped player,
it's difficult. You've got to move laterally

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onto the left foot and then rotate, and you have to time that rotation

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in a split second when that club
is really really moving. And for some

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of these young guys that hit three
or four ferris then blowing out of bounds

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right or left and never knowing what
they know what I'm talking about because I

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was one of those guys. When
I was a young man, I was

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a very good player. But every
time I got into a tour event one

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hole or two holes, I'd hit
the ball left and it'd be out of

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bounds or into some real trouble where
I ran my score up, and I

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always thought, well, I just
don't have it, And I just want

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to pass this information onto people.
For those young people that are out there

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that really want to play this game, You've got to be connected and rotate

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that body so that you can control
that club. You have to know where

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that clubhead is through impact. If
you're just guessing and hoping, you're you

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got a long road and a rough
road to go through. Well, you

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had mentioned the word coordinate, and
I'm wondering what it. What kind of

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I guess coordination is the word that
I'm looking for. Does it take a

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lot of good hand eye coordination?
Does it a lot of work to get

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that coordination together to hit it,
to get it at that right spot.

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If you're going to hit the ball
with your hands and arms, if you're

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going to rotate your arms you hit
the golf ball, you better have really

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good coordination, and then you better
practice every single day for a long time,

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because you can lose it immediately,
and you're going to lose it when

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you get anxious anyway. But if
you're if you're scaring the club with the

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rotation of your big muscles, your
your big muscles, your shoulders and chests

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really can't rotate on a lot of
different planes. Your hands and wrists are

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much more pliable. They can they
can flip over and flop and hang on

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and so forth. The body really
can't do those things, and the body

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of the nerve endings are right at
the edge of the body. So when

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you're nervous, the last thing you
want to try to do is to do

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something with your fingertips or your hands. It's just not doable. You know

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when your handshake when you get nervous, but your chest doesn't shake. Okay,

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So if you can take that club
and trap it across your chest,

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and then the only way that that
arm can move is for your chest to

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rotate, that clubhead is going to
be in the same position time in and

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time again. I mean, I'm
writing a book, I'm going to China.

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I run a golf management program,
and the coach of the Ben's golf

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team. I don't have any time
to go out there and hit balls.

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Okay, but when I go out
to hit golf balls and to demonstrate this,

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there is no question in my mind
that I can take a driver out

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seven iron witch. I don't care
what it is. I'm going to hit

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it one way. I'm going to
hit it straight. Now. I may

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tot it a little bit, I
may heat it a little bit, but

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the ball is going to hold its
line because my club head is not turning

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over, it's not tumbling. Just
not a lot of spin on the ball

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when you hit it. No,
I don't have any side spin at all.

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That's what I'm telling you. I
don't have any side spin on my

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golf ball. Ball doesn't draw,
my ball doesn't fade. My ball goes

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right or left a little bit,
but never to the point where it would

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ever be in the rough. Okay, And unfortunately for me, I learned

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this to at an advanced age.
I don't I don't have the desire to

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compete, but I really have the
desire to pass this on. Now.

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I can tell you, as a
golf coach, a lot of the young

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men that come to me they have
they're pretty good players. I mean plus

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ones and scratch and so forth.
And when they hear this, and they

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don't hear it from a lot of
people because this is kind of this is

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not new, but it hasn't been
talked about. Let's put it that way.

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They're always very suspect. And as
I tell them, look, I

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am not going to try to change
the way you think or to play.

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I'm going to just show you the
way I play and think, and then

416
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you make your own mind up on
what you want to do, because I

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don't want to disrupt anybody in their
game. And obviously there's a lot of

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ways to play this game, but
I think I've found a way that really

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makes it easy for that advanced player
as well as a high handicapper. I

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think they both profit from this.
I mean I I would get on the

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golf chair, I would talk to
whoever on the tour and not be a

422
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,440
little bit nervous about what it's about
telling him this, because if they're an

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arm swinger, I can improve them. It's just it's just that simple.

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Wow, now you you mentioned that. Well. One of the things that

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it says in the Hogan's book is
that the beginning of the downswing transfers the

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weight from the right foot to the
left foot. Well, Hogan said,

427
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the first move of the down swinger
is to clear your left side. Okay,

428
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:40,880
if your weights on your right foot
and you rotate your left side,

429
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,599
you're on your right foot when you're
hitting the golf ball. And that's why

430
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a lot of people, when they
took his words verbatim, they couldn't hit

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the golf ball because because he left
out the parrot. The part in the

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letter I have by Ben Hogan to
a friend about how to hit the driver,

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he states emphatically, at the top
of my swinging, my weights on

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the instep of my left foot,
not my right foot, my left foot.

435
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,519
And when the first time I read
that, I just blinked and said,

436
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:15,440
well, Ben must have had a
cocktail that day and or maybe a

437
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,880
little dyslexia kicked in, but he
meant right foot. And then as I

438
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:25,039
continued my research and looked at film
of him, and then saw quotes where

439
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:29,440
he told Mike Austin, who was
a pro from Los Angeles, from now

440
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,519
on, I'm going to play off
the left side. And then one time

441
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,759
I'm with a conversation with Lee Trevino. Lee said, I've seen a lot

442
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,680
of great players play off the left
side. I've never seen anybody great that

443
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,160
stayed for any length of time on
the right side. But I didn't understand

444
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,079
what he was talking about, and
like most people I was, I was

445
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,960
too embarrassed to say, I don't
know what you mean by that. So

446
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,720
through this period of time, this
learning experience, and then also there was

447
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,279
a lot of self doubt. Who
am I? Who am I to say

448
00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:02,240
some of these guys are wrong?
Then when Jack Nicholas made a quote in

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00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,119
Golf Digest after the stack, until
people pointed out to him that he was

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00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,759
staying on his left side, Jack
made the statement, and it was a

451
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very, you know, brash statement. He said, anyone that teaches you

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00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:15,319
to shift your weight on your right
foot on the backswing doesn't know how to

453
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:21,000
teach well. Led Metter and a
lot of these guys hairsit straight up.

454
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,359
Okay. And I know when I
first wrote, you know, when I

455
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:29,640
was writing my book some excerpts of
it. When in the local sportsbook here

456
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,880
a little golf book, a couple
of pros wrote skating reviews of what I

457
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,119
said. You're insane, You're a
fraud, blah blah blah. You know,

458
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,400
in the South side of Chicago,
and me wanted to go over there

459
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,119
and punch somebody in the nose.
But you know, at my age,

460
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:51,160
I watched that stuff. So I
just wrote back. I just wrote that,

461
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,680
and I just said, well,
you have your you know, you

462
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,200
have the right. I don't think
you should slander me, but you have

463
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:02,160
the right to not agree. But
but Al Geiberger and Jack Nicholas agree with

464
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,680
me, and that's pretty That's good
enough for me. But there really was

465
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,400
a lot of self done. I
must say to you that you know,

466
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,519
I've been a hand player all my
life. I had no formal training.

467
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,079
I was a kid and I caddied
like most of us did from my era,

468
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,359
and that's how we learned to play
golf. We got to play on

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00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,720
Mondays at Caddy's Day and we had
hand me down clubs, but we prevailed.

470
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,599
And because I could play baseball pretty
good and I was kind of blessed

471
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,640
with eye hand coordination, I got
to the point where I can play in

472
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,440
a tour event. Not to stay
out there, but I was good enough

473
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,480
to qualify. Let's put it that
point. But the game was always elusive

474
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:38,480
for me, And I just said, I just came to the conclusion,

475
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,400
well, I'm just not good enough. I've put my tie in, but

476
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,880
I'm just not good enough. And
I just didn't understand connection and rotation.

477
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,400
And then a lot of people think
that Jimmy Ballard was the one that was

478
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,759
the first one to say that,
but that's really not true. I've got

479
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:57,079
books that were written in the twenties
and thirties that talked about connection and rotation.

480
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,319
And there was an argument at the
time. Do you face the ball

481
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:02,960
when you're hitting it or are you
facing the target when you hit it?

482
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Because when you're facing the ball,
your arms have to cross over in front

483
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,880
of you when you when your body's
facing the target, then your your arms

484
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,839
are being pulled by the body,
so that this this this argument has gone

485
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,400
gone on for a while. Okay, And Hogan, you know, he

486
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:21,200
was a very bright man. He
had, like I said, one seventy

487
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,400
five IQ, so he was close
to genius. He he figured it out,

488
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,880
He got a thought and figured it
out and worked on it. And

489
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,519
I don't think he ever really divulged
his secret. But you can see it

490
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,279
in his later film. You can
see it so clearly. You can see

491
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:43,119
his rear end is totally on his
left leg, as was Nicholas. Even

492
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,039
though Nicholas hoisted the club upright and
Hogan took it around him, they were

493
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:50,720
still against that brace. And I
think that that is, you know,

494
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,160
playoff of one axis is it really
eliminates a lot of the air made on

495
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,960
the transitional move and then the coupdi
gras on that is, if you could

496
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,519
keep your left arm connected high on
the chest so that the movement of the

497
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:07,880
body rotation brings the arm into impact, then you got the best of everything.

498
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,559
And that's what we teach. I
mean, there's some finite things like

499
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:13,720
when you set up to the ball, your right hip has to be on

500
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,839
the inside of your right foot head
a dress, and then when you go

501
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,839
sixty four do you find that the
left hip has to be in line with

502
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,319
the outside of the left foot.
So the legs are going to be reactionary

503
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,319
to the swing. You're not going
to have to drive the legs, you're

504
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:29,319
not going to have to move the
lower body and then the upper body and

505
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:35,079
all that stuff. That's all very
very difficult. And really when we use

506
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:39,359
the legs for power, that leverage
comes from the ground up. It doesn't.

507
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:45,200
It doesn't come when we're when we're
moving laterally, we're actually not totally

508
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,559
on the ground. So the more
you're grounded, the more power you can

509
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,720
get from your legs. But your
legs have to be in a certain position

510
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:54,880
so that you can so that they
can stay grounded as you rotate the top

511
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,400
part, and then they just react. Unfortunately, you can't see what I'm

512
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,759
saying, but hopefully your listeners are
getting a flavor for this. And and

513
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:07,679
you very descriptive. It's good.
I mean, if if you know,

514
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,159
don't not while you're driving, of
course, but if you can close your

515
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,920
eyes and listen, you can visualize
a lot of what you're saying. Yeah,

516
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,199
because this is this is really important, and I mean it's really important

517
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,920
if you're if you're if you love
the game I do, and you want

518
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,679
to improve. And the beautiful part
about this whole concept is you can do

519
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,719
it from your chip shot to your
drive. It's the same exact concept.

520
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,480
You You are connected at the left
arm and you rotate your body through the

521
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:38,840
target and it pulls a club through. The club can't turn over, and

522
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,360
you're gonna hit really wonderful shots.
And we're not trying to stay behind the

523
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,599
ball. We're trying to move through
the golf ball. Again, that's another

524
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:51,480
concept. See when you drop your
right shoulder down, your head goes backwards,

525
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,440
it goes away from the target.
Your body arches and your hands turnover

526
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:59,360
and you hit the golf ball.
But the true rotational person doesn't drop down

527
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,239
and hit the ball. His right
side stays level and he just slams his

528
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,119
right side through that golf ball.
He hits it, hits through the golf

529
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:12,760
ball, his right side goes past
the ball. If you're using the golf

530
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,920
ball. And this is what I
tell all my students. The golf balls

531
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,320
a line. It's just a point
of reference to align your club hit at

532
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,239
the target. But you've got to
move past that line. Your divot has

533
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,559
to be on the other side of
that line. It can't be behind that

534
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:29,760
line when you put your golf club
behind the ball. If you brought the

535
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,039
club right to that spot each and
every time, you'd be hitting the ball

536
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:37,000
fat because the club sets behind the
golf ball. So we've got to catch

537
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,599
that ball and then the divit forward
of it. Okay, so we've got

538
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,280
to be moving through it. The
more underneath you work. For all the

539
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,719
people that hit it thin and fat
and thin and fat. You're behind the

540
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,000
ball, so you have to be
in position to hit the ball with power.

541
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,199
And most people are behind the ball
too far, so the only thing

542
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,559
they can fire is their hands,
and they hit and fall back. They

543
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,400
step back in the box like baseball
players used to do. I mean that

544
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,639
that move is prevalent in golf.
There's PhDs with that movement. I can

545
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:17,320
tell you that this seems to be
your creation, your discovery, not of

546
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,920
your creation. Obviously you're you're basing
it on on what you're watching from Hugan.

547
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,800
But even if you uh were to
put in a search engine on the

548
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,480
internet, single pivot swing, it's
gonna pop back up with stack and tilt.

549
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:32,159
Yeah yeah, and it's not.
And believe me when I tell you

550
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,679
the only similarity is that we we
set up more weight left. But that's

551
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:40,559
the only similarity. Stack until is
totally different than what I do. And

552
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:45,320
God bless them, that's that's their
method. I don't I don't talk about

553
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,559
their method because it's it's not my
method and it's not what I believe.

554
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,079
And I'm sure they're just as passionate
about their method. Heck, they wrote

555
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,719
a book and and and they did
a tape. But I can. I

556
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,280
can honestly tell you that when my
art article came out and Golf illustrated,

557
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,159
I got a lot of emails from
people that bought their book and bought their

558
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,159
tapes and said, I can't do
this. It hurts my back. But

559
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:13,679
when I tried your method, I
could hit the ball. Now does that

560
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,480
mean I'm right, No, It
just means that some people think that my

561
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,119
method is easier. I do know
one thing. Ben Hogan rotated through the

562
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:27,840
golf ball. He didn't tilt.
He was stacked. He was what we

563
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,239
call posted, straight up and down. When he hit a golf ball,

564
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:34,599
he did not tilt back. His
chest was left with the target, and

565
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,960
he was always in perfect balance.
He didn't go down and search for that

566
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,440
golf ball. He didn't need to
do that. He could turn to the

567
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,360
ball. He cleared his right side
and his early swings, he was very

568
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,159
long with the swing, and his
swing looked the same, but there was

569
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:55,559
a big change to his golf swing. His knee position was more towards the

570
00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:00,280
ball as he turned. In his
later years, his knee jetted straight out

571
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,519
to the left foot, as did
a gentleman by the name of James Barnes

572
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:09,800
in the twenties with Hickory Chefts.
So again, that wasn't Hogan's invention.

573
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,920
It was I'm sure Ben found that
if when his knee worked that way,

574
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,639
he was more balanced and braced,
because that's the whole key here, is

575
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:23,400
that your body has to be ready
to make a really athletic move, and

576
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,599
when it's drifting right and drifting left
like a willow, there's nothing athletic about

577
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:32,480
that. And one of the things
that you haven't mentioned yet as a comparison

578
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:38,280
or even its relevance are the other
terms that we hear so frequently are the

579
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:45,440
single, single and two plane swing. Yeah, you know, and Jim

580
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Hardy is it Jim Hardy? Yeah, he wrote the book on plane swing,

581
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:53,719
on single plane swing, and he's
a very fine teacher, and he

582
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,599
even shows that Hogan got a little
bit on his left side when he does

583
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:05,039
his demonstrations. Well, I believe
that the body rotation puts the club in

584
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:08,119
a position just like when you're going
to throw a baseball. You kind of

585
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:12,760
wind up, but there's no specific
position that you put your arm, and

586
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,760
your arm goes to a place where
your body feels strong so that you can

587
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,000
make a hard throw. And I
think the golf it has to be that

588
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,159
way. I think that when we
set up properly, and if we're not

589
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,760
changing our spine angle, if we
just rotate the body and keep the arms

590
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,880
connected to the body, that they're
going to find the position that you should

591
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,360
be in. I have never believed
that you should try to get your wrist

592
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,480
hinged at the top or flat at
the top. I think that I think

593
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:43,360
that that hurts people primarily because they're
thinking about their hands and their position,

594
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960
and you can't shut that off.
At the top, you're going to be

595
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:49,800
thinking about your hands and trying to
get that club flat at impact. And

596
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,000
I've got scores of film of me
hitting the golf ball where my left wrist

597
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:57,960
is flat, and I can tell
you that I have never tried to get

598
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:05,159
left wrist flat. Leave, lag
and all of that are they're the consequence

599
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:08,159
of doing something before that. So
as I rotate and that club is being

600
00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:12,320
pulled, that club is going to
be lagged, and my left wrist will

601
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,519
have to be flat. When my
body stops and the club goes forward,

602
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,239
that's when my left wrist is going
to hinge and it's going to cup.

603
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:22,280
That's when you hit the ball weak, but that's because the body stopped.

604
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,320
Okay, but there's no way that
you can bring your arms down and try

605
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,960
to keep your left wrist flat.
I mean, that's insanity. I see

606
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,320
people hurt themselves doing that and they
hit everything weak right, And yet there

607
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,639
are people that are teaching that today. And you know, that's one of

608
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,039
the things that I've always said.
I'm a pgm ember since nineteen sixty five,

609
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,199
and not one person from the PGA
has ever come over and said,

610
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:46,639
Okay, let me see what you're
doing to make sure you're not making people

611
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:51,679
crazy here. And I think that
a lot. There's our teachers that are

612
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,000
teaching out of a book and they're
just not cognizant of why things happen.

613
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,840
There is cause and effect, and
the left wrist flat of impact is an

614
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,599
effect of something else. It is
not because you purposely try to keep your

615
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,679
left frist flat. I mean,
that's just that's ludicrous. You're moving too

616
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,599
fast, there's too much weight forward, especially when you have a driver in

617
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:15,800
your hand. Even though it may
be fifteen ounces or so, the weight

618
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,199
of that clubhead is enormous as it's
moving through time. And if you're if

619
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,760
you're if your body stops, that
weight is gonna is gonna flip your hands.

620
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:27,400
I don't care how strong you are, they're gonna, they're gonna,

621
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
they're gonna cup. And that's why
a lot of people when they go to

622
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:31,559
hit the ball hard, they hit
that sky shot, they go straight up

623
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:35,000
in the air and they get that
mark on the top of their club.

624
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,880
I know there's a lot of people
out there now nodding their head. I'm

625
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,320
raising my hand. I'm one of
those people. Yeah, okay, that's

626
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,280
because you pull the club down steep, the clubhead turns over and you make

627
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,239
contact with the top of the club, not the face. The top.

628
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,320
Okay, well, that's because the
body is still and the arms are down.

629
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:57,719
They're coming down and nothing is releasing
except the arms. I can remember

630
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,159
so many times when I, you
know, I'm from another ear I played

631
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:05,079
with for Simmon Woods, and I'd
have these pure woods and I'd take I

632
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,880
try on a par five to kill
the ball, and there there'd be a

633
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,760
big white spot in my on the
top of my club, and I just

634
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,079
hated myself for that. But I
never knew why I did it. I

635
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,039
always thought I was going underneath the
ball. But you can't go under the

636
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,400
ball. Yeah. How many times
you see people go, you know,

637
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,280
I need to tee it up higher? Yeah, change change their tea position

638
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,280
after they do that. It's nothing, nothing, nothing about that. So

639
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,400
all of those things, the golf
God was whispering my ear. Hey,

640
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,599
you see what you just did?
You know why? And finally, my

641
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:40,039
inquisitive nature. Uh and and I
was driven by the passion not to play

642
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:44,800
any better anymore, but to be
able to teach people. And also when

643
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,199
I want to demonstrate, I don't
have to think, God, hopeing O

644
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,000
shank this one or something like that. I mean, I don't have those

645
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:53,000
thoughts anymore, especially when my kids
are all, like I say, really

646
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:58,440
solid players. I've got a fifteen
year old that's blasted in the sixties all

647
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,719
the time, and he hits it
about three twenty off the tee and he's

648
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,599
fifteen years old. I want to
slap him. But when I'm trying to

649
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:07,960
tell him to do this a little
bit more, I've got to get up

650
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,360
there and be able to produce.
I've got to get up there and say,

651
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Okay, we'll watch this. I'm
going to hit this fire and it's

652
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,880
going to be dead straight. I'm
going to hit at that yellow flag and

653
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,039
I'm going to make it fall right
just a little bit. And I can

654
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:22,800
do that. I have no fear
about doing that in front of anybody,

655
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,440
because I know there's a mathematical thing
going on. If my left arm is

656
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,920
trapped against my chest and I rotate
my chest, my club's coming into that

657
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,760
ball square. So if I align
myself properly and those conditions stay in place,

658
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,280
I'm going to hit that ball.
Now. Have I ever hit it

659
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,800
when I was trying to do this? Have I ever pulled one or push

660
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,880
one? Absolutely, but I knew
exactly what happened. And I'll say my

661
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,079
arms went first that time and I
reconnect bam. I hit it perfect.

662
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:52,280
So there's no doubt in my mind
that this works. There's no doubt in

663
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,440
my mind that anybody can do this, male, female, young or old.

664
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:00,239
And I think I think that it's
I think it's what the aster figured

665
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:06,360
out. And I've just kind of
add a little signature things in there that

666
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,440
that I think are very really you
know that that relate to what he was

667
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,960
trying to do and then make it
easier again. To set up. You

668
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,159
have to be set up against the
wall, against the brace, and you

669
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:20,079
can't you can't let your lower body
go underneath your top top of you.

670
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:22,159
So the slides under because it's got
a slide back the other way. And

671
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,719
then you're just you're you know,
you're in China town. I mean,

672
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,840
it's it's it's over. Sell the
clubs, buy a dog, go for

673
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,280
a walk. If you're going to
go for a walk, don't hit anything.

674
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:38,480
So well, you mentioned how you
know when you talked about popping the

675
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,440
ball up off the tee, and
then everyone always has advice about where your

676
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:50,440
tea placement was. The other thing
that I frequently see from from armchair golf

677
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,920
instructors are the people who say,
oh, you lifted your head. Oh

678
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,559
you lifted your head. Oh you
lifted your head. And that's just insanity.

679
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,840
You know. I tell I show
people, well, you know,

680
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,400
I have a number of because in
a golf management program, there's a lot

681
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,480
of boys that came in to learn
the business, but they're not really skilled

682
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,840
in golf. They're double digit handicaps, and I get them out there and

683
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,679
I, you know, I try
to feed them a little bit of this

684
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,519
and try to help them and they
top the ball on occasion and they say

685
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,599
to them, you know why you
top that golf by say, well,

686
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,239
I looked up, and I sa, are you sure? Are you sure

687
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,920
you looked up? And they see, oh yeah, I looked up,

688
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:27,000
and I said, well, let
me show you something. You watch my

689
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:29,679
head. I'm going to be I'm
gonna hold my head dead's still, and

690
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,000
you're going to see my eyes are
going to be an egul ball and I'm

691
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,360
going to hit the very top of
that golf ball. Now you know,

692
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,840
I don't have timing enough to swing
this club seventy miles an hour with an

693
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,840
iron and hit the very top of
that skin. But I'm going to do

694
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,440
that, and I'll top that ball. I'll make a really hard swing and

695
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,159
then the ball will go four or
five feet and they'll say, how did

696
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:50,639
you do that? It was really
easy. I anticipated impact. So what

697
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,239
happens when you anticipate the impact you
clinch. So when you tighten your hands,

698
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,280
your arms get shorter, they pull
in towards you, and that's why

699
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,159
you top the golf. So for
people out there that a the top it

700
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:05,440
a lot, especially with that faraway. Would it's because they're hitting to the

701
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,039
golf ball. So there's only one
cure for this. You got to be

702
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,320
brave. Number one. You got
to set up to that golf ball so

703
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,679
that you don't get way behind it
and then you're trying to catch up.

704
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,079
You kind of focus on where you're
going to go with your body and the

705
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:21,719
club head and not the golf ball. So when you get to the coil,

706
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
let's just say that's phase one of
a two part swing. Then you

707
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,760
got to unwind to the second part
and hold that position. Look, you

708
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,119
know, look pretty, look like
if someone's taking a picture of your follow

709
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:36,559
through. And if you get your
mind off of impact, then you'll quit

710
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,079
trying to hit, and when you
hit, you'll won't have that response.

711
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,519
So for everyone that's top of the
ball, I can promise you you're tightening

712
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:52,480
up, not looking up. That
is phenomenal observation. We even had a

713
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:55,639
listener write me and said once that
his dad always used to say to him,

714
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,559
if you lift your head, the
only thing you're going to see is

715
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:07,000
a bad golf shot. When I
watch Annaka, it always looks like she's

716
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,880
lifting her head before she hits the
ball. Well, she looks like she

717
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,400
was looking at the target because she
rotated her body and because her head and

718
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,280
eyes moved towards were moving following the
ball. That's another thing. You don't

719
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,400
stay down when you hit a golf
ball. You let your eyes release.

720
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,000
You have to because if your head
is looking to the right and you're trying

721
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:29,719
to turn left, your head is
going to block your rotation. So you've

722
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,760
got to release your eyes. I
mean that's been said forever. There's a

723
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,119
lot of great players. But Anika
David the ball at one time, and

724
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:42,800
it's a shame that he moved away
from his original swing, but he was

725
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,119
that left arm was so across the
chest. He had that club face shut

726
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:49,719
at the top. But it didn't
really matter because he just rotated through the

727
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,360
golf ball and his eyes were really
down the target line. When he was

728
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,960
hitting the golf ball, he was
looking where he wanted the ball to go.

729
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,639
And Anika did the same thing becausefully, if you in your spine angle,

730
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,559
you don't want to focus on the
golf ball anyway. I mean,

731
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,679
they're old saying a good player sense
where the ball is and bad players stare

732
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:14,559
at it. And there's a lot
to be said about that, because if

733
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:16,760
you get stuck looking at that golf
ball or looking at a dimple on that

734
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,440
ball and all that blowning that we've
been told to do, you're going to

735
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,400
stay on that ball and you're going
to shut down your swing because the ball

736
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,840
is not the golf swing. The
ball is the center of the swing.

737
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,239
You're going to decelerate like crazy if
you're focusing on the back of the ball

738
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,920
or anything, and you gonna use
your hands. Your body's going to stay

739
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,400
behind the ball. I mean,
you're going to be You're going to be

740
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:40,119
and just still when you're hitting it
instead of active. And that's why so

741
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:45,639
many people hit so short. I
mean, I had a guy recently come

742
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,480
up to me about six foot three
and he says, well, I'm you

743
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,400
know, I'm fairly new at the
game. I've been played about a year.

744
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,440
I said, okay, well tell
me about you. So how far

745
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,440
do you hit a how far do
you hit a driver? He says,

746
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,679
oh, I hit about one sixty
five, one seventy And I said,

747
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,280
you should be able to throw it
that far. Forgot with your size.

748
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,400
And when I got through with him, you know, he was two thirty

749
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,400
two forty because the side was there. The length. You know, he

750
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,360
had a very long arm and then
a club on top of it, so

751
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,320
he had a huge lever. But
he didn't know what to do with the

752
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,679
lever, and so so all of
these things, you know, are are

753
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,920
they all relat If your body's in
the wrong position. I don't care how

754
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,199
strong you are, you can't hit
the golf ball very far. I used

755
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,519
to give lessons to Gene Upshaw years
and years ago when he was with the

756
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:36,719
Open Raiders. Jeane was a massive
man, and I weighed one hundred and

757
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,000
fifty pounds and I just drilled it
by him, I mean one hundred yards

758
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:44,239
okay, And he'd say, how
can you hit it so far? My

759
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,000
leg's bigger than you did, and
blah blah blah. But when he got

760
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:52,000
to when he got right, when
he figured out where to be instinctively,

761
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,280
because he was an athlete, you
know, he hit it two miles And

762
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:59,239
I didn't know all of this then, but you'd get there every now and

763
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,400
then, do you understand what I
mean? Every now and then you clock

764
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,320
one, you say, what did
I do there? When your body is

765
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,400
in the place? Well, now
I know where that place is. That's

766
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,880
the thing. I know what put
you and you're gonna You're gonna hit the

767
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,719
ball farther. You're going to hit
the ball straighter. And it's it's and

768
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,920
it's not hard. I have people
say, well, how many lessens do

769
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,719
I have? And I say one, maybe two, and then then then

770
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,800
I can pass it. I'm pass
it on to you, and then you'll

771
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,400
know every time you hit the golf
ball what that ball is doing will tell

772
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,079
you what you did or did not
do. Well, We're gonna come down

773
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:35,480
to Palm Springs. I'm going to
spend some time with you. Well,

774
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,599
i'd problems you. It's not going
to take a lot of time. And

775
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,920
you don't have to be a great
athlete. You don't have to be young

776
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,559
and springy. You can, you
know, you can be just a regular

777
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,679
guy that doesn't have eight hours to
day to practice. And I'll show you.

778
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:51,159
I'll show you how to hit the
ball and hit it solid. And

779
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:55,199
I mean that's a flat guarantee.
I love it. I love that kind

780
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:59,079
of flat guarantee. That is confidence, and that's what the game is about.

781
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,559
Having that confidence. Well, you
know, you know I've been at

782
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:06,079
this a long time. I've you
know, I've made my bones. As

783
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:09,400
they say, I know how to
teach golf. And I've been doing this

784
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,679
since, you know, I've been
a pros in sixty five. But it's

785
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,079
really the last fifteen years that I've
learned how to swing the golf club.

786
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,400
And I just wish I had done
this a little earlier and really and where

787
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,079
I really was sure it was right, it's probably been the last six or

788
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:30,800
seven years and now I and now
there's a couple of guys on the tour.

789
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:31,880
I'm not going to mention, but
I just wish I could have a

790
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,000
conversation with them. I don't want
any money, I don't want anything.

791
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:39,000
I would, in fact, I
would do it anonymously, but unfortunately egos

792
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,320
they're not going to say, hey, there's a guy on a driving me.

793
00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:45,079
I could really help you. You
know, it's just not going to

794
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:47,239
happen, but just for the sake
of the game, you know. So

795
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,800
when do you come back from China. I'm going to be there a week

796
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,320
hopefully that's going to be all.
I mean, I'm enamored with it,

797
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,400
but I have so much to do
on this side of the pond. I've

798
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:06,960
got to catch up. But I
want to really try to get some golf

799
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,320
academies there and teach people how to
operate a facility, because it doesn't make

800
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,360
sense to me that they're going to
build ten thousand golf courses in the next

801
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,920
five or six years. And that's
the that's on the drawing board that they

802
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,800
don't that their own people can't operate
them. Doesn't make sense to me that

803
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,159
they have to get somebody from Australia
or America or whatever to run their golf

804
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:30,079
course. So they should build their
own base of employees, you know,

805
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:34,199
so it benefits them just like we
have we have here. We don't have

806
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,440
to call someone in Australia to run
a golf course here, and that's what

807
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,440
they need. So they need junior
programs and they need some management programs so

808
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,760
they get an understanding. You know, this is not rocket science. The

809
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,400
golf industry is a service oriented business. To accommodate people. You anticipate what

810
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,440
they're going to say before they do
it, and you're ready to per form

811
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:57,440
that accommodation. And that's it.
Learning to fold the shirt or sell a

812
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,079
set of clubs, Come on,
we can all do that. But the

813
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:05,360
secret of this business is to make
people feel welcome and not when they walk

814
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,159
through the door and look at them
and say, well, that guy's not

815
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,079
going to spend any money. You
know, you don't qualify people in this

816
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:15,119
business, nor should you in life
for that matter. But that's a secret

817
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:17,480
of this business. And I've been
lucky because that was taught to me as

818
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,679
a young man, and I've made
a lot of money in the golf industry

819
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:28,119
and times when people didn't make money, and and you know, it's what

820
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:30,159
I pass on to most students so
that they can go out there and they

821
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:35,400
can become successful. Well, if
you receive two phone calls from the last

822
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,880
episode that we barely even scratch the
surface on the single pivot swing, I'm

823
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,079
hoping you're going to get a lot
more emails and phone calls. I will

824
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:49,079
make sure to post your email address
on our blog site. And you told

825
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:53,320
me tam Manzoni at College of thedeesert
dot EEDU correct. That's correct, And

826
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:59,400
then let's let them contact you that
way, unless you want to give the

827
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,400
phone number that I contacted you at, that's this one. If they want

828
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,960
to, they can call me on
my cellular phone. If they don't agree

829
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,119
with me, please don't call me
and call me a bunch of names.

830
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:14,039
If you don't agree to call me, just get a hold of me and

831
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:17,199
we'll let them my cell phone.
My cell phone is seven to six zero

832
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,119
five three four three one nine zero, and you have my email. And

833
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:27,840
anyone that's interested in trying to find
out more if they're a little bit confused,

834
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:30,760
you know, and drop me into
litt or give me a call and

835
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,280
I'll be happy to help them in
any way that I can. Well,

836
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,039
like I said, I'm going to
try to come down to the Palm Springs

837
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:40,079
area around the first part of twenty
eleven. And if I do and we

838
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:45,280
get a chance to get together,
I hope that you'll allow me to bring

839
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,599
a video camera and and maybe even
put a little bit on video on here

840
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:52,360
so we can get that on golf
Smarter TV too, to show people,

841
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,000
because based on this information and the
emails that I received, they want more

842
00:54:57,039 --> 00:55:00,880
information. They are intrigued by what
you're saying and want to know more,

843
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,960
so we've got to get it out
there. Well, that's great, and

844
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,719
I and I appreciate, I really
do appreciate the opportunity to tell you all

845
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,159
this stuff because it's it's it's it's
like, you know, I feel like

846
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,519
I have a lightning in a bottle
right now and it's trying to get out

847
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,239
and I want to get it out, and not so much to praise myself,

848
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,599
but to help people with this game, because it's such a fantastic game,

849
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:28,719
and to suffer with it like I
know I did for many years.

850
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,719
UH, is ridiculous. If you
get the right amount of information, it

851
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:38,039
isn't that complicated. We're not building
a rocket here. Okay, we're swinging

852
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:42,840
a club. And if we just
play on an access and rotate around that

853
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,920
access, that makes it so much
easier