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Weird things happened in the weird weird
weird Yo. Yo, hey hey hey,

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hey, hey hey hey they are
pard What a wonderful day. What

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a wonderful day we have upon us. So it's a wonderful day, folks.

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Alex had the idea. A lot
of good ideas stem from Alex's idea,

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and then we take them and we
shape them to what we really want,

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and then we take credit for them. Yeah. I wouldn't do all

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that, but I'm kidding. I'm
kidding. Alex had a pretty kidding I

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give no, I give you all
the credit. You. I worship you.

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Put the camera on me, put
it on me. You got it

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all right. I'm bowing before Alex. It makes you feel better. Thank

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you. You're the god of ideas. Kiss his ring, Give me your

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rum and coin. I'll kiss that. You got it on you. Wow,

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it's the it's on the nice stand, on the altar, if you

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will on the on the thing.
So Alex had a good idea and it

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was to do an episode about led
Zeppelin. And I was like, that's

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that's cool, that's that's a really
good angle. And as the days went

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by, I started thinking about it
and I was like, Man, why

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don't we expand that and just make
it more so about the message, the

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message and the music. This is
something that I'm not sure if we've ever

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talked about on the podcast, but
there's a little known element of my dad's

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story and how it is connected to
music. So I'll just tell that story

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and then we can go from there. When I was in high school,

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so particularly like senior year, so
I would have been like seventeen, maybe

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twenty eleven, and Dad started becoming
really obsessed with led Zeppelin and just playing

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it every day in the truck.
He'd take me to school, picked me

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up from school, and it was
all led Zeppelin, led Zeppelin, led

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Zeppelin, Aha, just obsessed like
that out of nowhere. My whole childhood.

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I never heard him utter the word
led Zeppelin, and all of a

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sudden, boom, it was all
he ever wanted to listen to, like

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suddenly, out of nowhere, sudden, and I you know, come to

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find out he liked him growing up, but when I was growing up,

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it was all like Aerosmith, Van
Halen, dr Cash, Like it was

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never you know, led Zeppelin.
It just completely in my life. It

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was out of lead field and he
just couldn't stop playing it. And I

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liked it, you know, I
thought it was cool and and really enjoyed

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the music. And so about a
year goes by of this every day led

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Zeppelin and then he, you know, sees the Lady and he starts getting

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these messages. Yeah, the Lady
came when I was eighteen, a year

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later after my senior year of high
school. I was a freshman. It's

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crazy. He just like got a
bug for led Zeppelin, like a year

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before all that happened. Yeah,
wild, And then the Lady or however

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you would imagine they communicate to him. I mean, they kind of hit

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on it in the History Channel episode, tells him that there's a message in

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the music, particularly Kashmir the Battle
of Evermore after the Gold Rush by Neil

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Young. And then he noticed the
song I Think It's Love Walked In by

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Van Man. So he started to
become obsessive about particular songs and the message.

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And we'll get to the lyrics in
a bit on all of those songs,

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and even Stairway to Heaven has a
shining Lady of Light. And he

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started to become obsessed with this concept. And then I guess a year or

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two goes by, and then there's
this UFO researcher by the name of Grant

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Cameron. Back in the day.
He came to our property, probably around

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twenty thirteen, and he starts investing, maybe twenty twelve actually his original visit,

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and he starts to investigate our property. And there's a story that I

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don't know if we've ever talked about
this on the podcast, but anyway,

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so Grant Cameron's in town and at
the time, in twenty twelve, UFOs

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was still a very niche subject of
conversation, and he during this time period

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was accredited as like the world's number
one UFO researcher. He had some sort

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of award from some sort of thing. I don't know. They'd be throwing

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hell a UFO conferences and patting each
other on the backs and stuff, and

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it's it's anyway, So he shows
up and it was kind of like,

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oh wow, he's gonna investigate us, like kind of a big deal at

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the time, you know. And
he sticks around for a little bit and

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then he leaves. He has to
go to Florida or something like that.

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He comes from Canada, and then
on his way home, he's like,

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hey, can I swing by again? And Dad's like sure, and he,

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you know, swings by and the
second time he's at our property.

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This is the story where he's out
in the backyard talking with Dad and Nelly's

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neck slash. Yeah. So I
had this black labrador named Nelly that actually

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I named after my great grandmother,
Nelly bled So And anyway, she was

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just the sweetest little dog and she
had just a mysterious she just started shooting

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blood, just squirting blood. Yeah. I think that it was like they

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were like talking in the backyard and
she didn't she like run inside or and

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she was projectile squirting out of I
don't nowhere. No, she was just

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wagging her tail one second, the
next second she's squirting blood. My dad

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tackles her. He thinks she's dying. Go get a rag, somebody help,

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you know, And they start struggling. What do we do? Do

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we call you know, nine one
one? Do we call the vet?

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Like she's gonna die? And they're
freaking out. It was a lot of

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blood. It was a lot of
blood. Yes, I have pictures of

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it, Like she may have bled
out. Yeah, at least that's what

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they thought. Yes, And Dad
just kind of praised, like, God

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help me, I don't know what
to do, and he sticks her hand

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on her neck and then the bleeding
stops. His hand put his hand on

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her neck, yeah, to like
stop the bleeding, right, and he's

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like, God help me. I
don't know what to do. And then

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the bleeding stops and the slash disappears. He said he felt something come from

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him into the dog. Next thing
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she's kind of wagging her tail and
she's fine. She's totally fine. The

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bleeding is gone. Now Grant Cameron
was like, what's this happen? What?

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How do you explain that? Right? Right? So he gets this

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bug from my dad. Oh my
god, this is real. I saw

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something crazy happen. And he starts
coming around more often, calling my dad

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all the time, asking like every
question you can imagine under the sun.

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And one thing my dad keeps telling
Grant is there's a message in the music.

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Look at After the Gold Rush by
Neil Young at Kashmir, look at

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the Battle of Evermore and Love Walks
In by Van Halen. So next thing

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you know, Grant's like, okay, interesting. Then he starts digging and

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he starts going into interviews from famous
musicians from as far back as like the

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seventies and finding out that a lot
of them at some point in time said

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in an interview that they were inspired
by UFO encounters. Right, so they're

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saying I can't. Grant Cameron found
that Yes, after Dad saying there's a

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message in the music. The phenomenon
is in inspiring the music, Grant goes

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and he determines a connection. Whoa
next thing, you know? He goes

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on to write an entire book where
I think it's called let me find the

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name of it. I don't.
Isn't that funny that you are following the

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trend, which is the connection between
the experience direct experience with the phenomenon and

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music. The book was called Tuned
in the Paranormal World of Music, and

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he credits my dad as giving him
the inspiration for this entire area of research.

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And he finds out that a lot
like I think Bruce Springsteen was one

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of the names, and a lot
of other artists saying, oh yeah,

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I saw UFO and it inspired me
for these lyrics or whatever. And then

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it gets deeper. So down the
road, we start hanging out with you

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know, especially around twenty thirteen and
beyond, we start getting more involved with

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people in the CIA, and then
we get introduced to characters like John Alexander,

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Jim Simmy Van and you know,
their regular characters in our story.

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And at some point, I honestly, for the life of me, I

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can't remember which of the two or
if it was one of their mutual friends

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that we knew said it, but
one of them indicated to us that a

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CIA scientist named Kick Green actually gave
the lyrics to led Zeppelin. Huh to

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like see prophecy into the world.
Okay, what so, yeah, we're

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going to read the lyrics, but
before we do that, I wanted to

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show people that there is a genuine
led Zeppelin connection with my dad. This

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is an excerpt from his book,
chapter nineteen. This is completely out of

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context, but I'm just gonna read
the excerpt so you know, I'm not

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just blowing smoke and there's a led
Zeppelin connection. Dad says. I didn't

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sing out loud for fear of ruining
their investigation, and also because there is

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no imitating the vocal acrobatics and falsettos
of Robert Plant and Sandy Denny on the

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Battle of Evermore. I chose that
song because led Zeppelin was huge when I

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was a kid, but mainly because
it was longer than four minutes and I

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knew all the words already. So
I'm gonna jump around a little bit in

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the timeline and when I'm done with
the story, then we'll go to the

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lyrics and we'll move on. So
obviously, and for very obvious reasons,

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led Zeppelin is like a big deal
in our house and with my dad and

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his story, and so I kid
you not. So it's twenty twenty four

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now, February. Last April in
twenty twenty three, was you know,

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Dad announced the motion picture back around
like I don't know, m October,

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December something like that. But he'd
been daily working on it since April of

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twenty twenty three. And I kid
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the text, we have a deal. I was at a Robert Plant concert

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right that's right here in Wilmington.
Robert Plant is still alive. He's the

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original vocalist for ledg Zeppelin. He's
literally still touring. He tours with Allison

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Kraus. They make new folk music
together. It's really pretty. And I

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was seeing him live at a venue
here in Wilmington, and for me it

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was a big deal. Oh my
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He's coming to town, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And I go

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to the concert and I'm just thinking, like, wow, what a crazy

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moment like that, I get to
see him live, and I'm getting text

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from my dad about the deal.
And then I look up in the sky

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and over the venue, I saw
three orbs. So that's so insane,

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and I was like, Okay,
this is weird, Like that's a that's

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the phenomenon, like confirming that connection. You know, You're you're there seeing

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Robert Plant after being like basically told
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Like obviously, like the lady didn't
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you need to listen to led Zeppelin
right right, But like he always

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knew that there was a connection there. Yeah, he always knew that there

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was a message in that music.
It was obvious that it was inspired by

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the phenomenon. And then if you
had any shred of a doubt in your

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mind, you're there seeing Robert Plant, getting text messages just from your dad

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about that and seeing orbs at the
same time, exactly, like it just

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wiped out any shadow of any doubt
exactly. So let's look at the lyrics

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for Kashmir. You ready, I
got actually either way? Oh go ahead,

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Kashmir. If there's anybody listening or
watching that is maybe not super familiar

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with led Zeppelin, Kashmir gotta be
one of their best songs of all time.

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Oh yeah, ca, and you've
probably heard it too. Like there's

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a few songs that even if you're
not familiar with the band, you've probably

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heard these songs. That's gotta be
one of them. Oh yeah, such

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a good song. So these are
the lyrics for Kashmir. Oh let the

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sun beat down upon my face and
stars fill my dream. I'm a traveler

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of both time and space to be
where I have been, to sit with

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elders of the gentle race. This
world has seldom seen. Okay. They

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talk of days for which they sit
and wait all will be revealed. Talking

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song from tongues of lilting grace.
Sounds caress my ear, and not a

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word I heard could I relate?
The story was quite clear, and it

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says, oh baby, I've been
blind. Yeah, Mama, there ain't

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no denying. It's kind of like
the verse or whatever. Ain't no denying.

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I've been flying. And then it
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brown as the sun burns the ground, and my eyes fill with sand as

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I scan this wasted land, try
to find the way that I feel.

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O pilot of the storm, who
leaves no trace, like sorts inside a

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dream, leave the path that lead
me to that place, yellow desert stream,

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my sh angry law beneath the summer
moon. I will return again as

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the dust that floats high in June. We're moving through Kashmir, Oh,

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father of the four winds, fill
my sails, cross the sea of years

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with no provision but an open face
along the streets of fear. Oh when

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I want, I'm on my way. Yeah, and my feet wear my

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fickle way to stay. And then
it's just like oh yeah, yeah,

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I'm down. Oh but it's it's
like prophecy. It's like, first of

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all, it's talking about elder beings
of a different race. This speak a

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language that only a few can understand, which is like, okay, maybe

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that's weird. If that doesn't do
it enough for you, let's go look

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at Battle of evermore. Oh no, no, no, wait, hold

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a hold, hold the hold up. There were multiple things there, like

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the let me see the lyrics real
quick. He said something about like my

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feet are my fickle way to stay. Let me see, let's see where

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was that? Okay, another thing
shangri lob beneath the summer moon that hit

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me across the sea of years with
no provision but an open face along the

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straits of fear. Here it is. And my feet where my fickle way

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to stay. Oh, when I
want, when I'm on my way,

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my feet wear my fickle way to
stay. That that reads to me as

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like feet being the fickle way to
stay is like being grounded, like witnessing

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this this like this phenomenon, or
witnessing this like infinite power, this infinite

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wisdom, these these people beyond the
stars, or this gentle race. Yeah,

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the elders, the elders, this
gentle race of elders. Like that.

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That sounds like this person whoever is
like telling this story, is having

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a profound experience with the phenomenon and
feeling like the separation from the material world

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and the spiritual world. But I'm
a traveler of both time. I'm in

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space to be where I have been, right, Yeah, and that's that's

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also really wild, like time is
a more ethereal, abstract concept, whereas

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space is more it's more material.
Like time is immaterial, space is more

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material. You know. That's that's
kind of the vibe that I'm getting from

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that. To sit with the elders
of the gentle race, the world has

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seldom seen obviously, that makes me
think of the phenomenon. Absolutely they talk

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of days for which they sit and
wait. All will be revealed. That

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makes me think of like Age of
Aquarius. Yes, exactly, all will

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be revealed, a new knowledge.
And that the part when he says all

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I see turns to brown as the
sun burns the ground. If you recall,

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that's the part in the song where
it sounds very clearly Egyptian I'm talking

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about. Yes, Like I know
that sounds funny, but if you go

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and you listen to Kashmir by Led
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there's a part that's like, Okay, I feel like I'm an ancient egypt

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Yeah. No, I mean they
use like citars and there's they had like

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a whole symphony for that song.
Right, there's viole lens, there's sitars,

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there's like all sorts of different instruments, so I want to stress though.

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The main song that was given to
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Evermore and Then and real Quick before
you go on the Kashmir was the song

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that made me write down the idea
to bring to the meeting to have this

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episode. Really I figured it out
listening to y'all talk about it. Wow,

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wait till you hear this one,
thisvermore uh huh. First lyrics,

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The Queen of Light took her bow, Wow, and then she turned to

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go. The Prince of Peace embraced
the gloom and walked the night alone.

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Oh, dance in the dark of
night, sing to the morning light.

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The dark Lord rides and forced the
night, and time will tell us all.

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Oh, throw down your plow and
hoe rest, not to lock your

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homes side by side. We wait
the might of the darkest of them all.

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I hear the horses thunder down in
the valley below. I'm waiting for

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the angels of Avalon, waiting for
the Eastern Glow. WHOA. Now,

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if we know anything about the King
Arthur Mine, if Avalon is like Heaven,

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right, which is this is a
mystical tie to you know, you

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can say King Arthur Templar's kind of
like Masonic imagery there talking about the Eastern

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glow. Well, in the Bible
it talks about when Jesus returns, it's

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from the east, or it's the
sun of the morning, the sun it

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rises in the east, and so
shall God or Jesus or whatever return in

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the east. Is it literal?
No, about it was something else real

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quick, all right, Lord of
the Rings two Towers, Gandolf was gone

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for all that time, and he
said three days time I will return.

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Look to the east. Yeah,
he looked to the east. They came

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down into the valley, thundering with
horses the road here him Like that was

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like low key, like the I
mean, Gandolf is the Jesus character of

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Lord of the Rings. Like that's
that's almost identical to the Battle of Helm's

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Deep. They're gonna there's a reference
of Ring Raiths in the song too.

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They were obviously huge Lord of the
Rings fans. Oh yeah, So they

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have multiple songs that are I'm waiting
for the Angels of Avalon, waiting for

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the Eastern Glow, that apples of
the valley hold the seeds of happiness.

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The ground is rich from tender care, repay, Do not forget, no,

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no, oh, dance in the
dark of night, sing to the

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morning light that apples turn to brown
and black. The tyrants face is red.

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Oh. The war is calm and
cry, pick up your swords and

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fly. The sky is filled with
good and bad that mortals never know,

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which for me was like, Okay, my radar's tingling, Because when I

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was a little kid and we started
seeing this phenomenon, Dad always told me,

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I say, yeah, bro,
like there's angels and demons in the

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sky that we can't see fighting all
the time. Right. Dad always said

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that. He was like, it's
like the scripture, Son, I don't

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remember the character Jacob or something.
He's like, and God opened his eyes

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and he could see all the angels
in heaven. It literally says the sky

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is filled with good and bad,
that mortals will never know that. Just

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that imagery comes to my mind.
This quote, I think is the most

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important quote, and it's something that
Dad raised me on to never fear bad

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times. He said, the pain
of war cannot exceed the woe of aftermath.

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The drums will shake the castle wall, The ring raths right in black,

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right on but specifically, the pain
of war cannot exceed the woe of

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aftermath. And the way I've always
been made to understand that is like whatever

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bad time, I mean, even
if World War three were to theoretically happen,

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it's like things can only get so
bad before there's intervention from the light.

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You know, It's like it's gonna
get I mean potentially, I don't

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know the future, but like there's
all this fear mongering in the world,

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and like, dude, today we
lost AT and T service and there's a

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million conspiracy theories, oh chinas he
and pianists. I mean, everybody's panicked

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about everything that ever happens because AT
and T you went down for two hours.

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I'm telling you right, people are
panicked about everything on from every walk

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of life. Everything is like this
little panic trigger that makes people freak out.

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And I'm not going to weigh in
on that one. Oh my god,

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I'm not gonna feed I'm not keeping
myself. Yeah, don't feed the

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fear, That's what I'm saying.
Who cares if they're if they're in p

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and US, great, I'm just
gonna stay here and play my steam deck

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off the Wi Fi. Like I'm
gonna enjoy myself. Yeah, you get

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your A D n T conspiracy anywhere, you're not gonna get it at Bloody

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said not today, And you know
I'm not. I'm not knocking people that

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that spread that theory. My point
is the world is they're always no,

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I totally get it. Yeah,
that's why I'm siding with you here.

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Everybody's in fear of everything, and
it's like there has to be a point

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when it's only gonna get Like,
obviously the world is bad, but it

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can truly from a cosmic perspective,
only get to a point, yes,

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and then the balance is gonna shift. There's a balance, there's a universal

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balance, and and that's how my
dad has always interpreted that line. The

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pain of war can't exceed the woe
of the aftermath. Yeah, I mean

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people like today, it feels like
more so than maybe ever, but people

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seem to have like this natural propensity
to want to latch onto any little fear

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and blow it way up and like, oh see what they're doing. You

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see in the world. Yeah,
it's the in the world. It's the

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end time start buying all the food, like you know, it's like all

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right, yeah, sure, something's
happened in the world, and some of

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it's not so great, but like, not everything that happens is a worldwide

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cataclysmic They're not like after us at
every turn. You know, obviously there

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are bad people in the world doing
horrible things, and like there's there's definitely

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strings being pulled in the background against
the masses in my opinion, don't get

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it twisted, for sure, but
like, come on, now, every

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little thing, like how scared are
you going to get before you realize?

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All right, well, my fear
doesn't help anything, right, I think

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it's I think it's more so conditioning
and people have to be unconditioned, like

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just the years and years and decades
of fear mongering, war mongering, most

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of the news cycles, negative news. It's like, how can you not

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feel like everybody's out to get you
and that you have to, like,

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you know, be the first one
in the grocery store to buy all the

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toilet paper, Yeah, you know, because how else are you gonna wipe

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us? No, I'm just like, it's it's got to be a process.

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It's like, hey, let's let's
tone it down. Like I heard

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from a buddy about the whole outage
thing. I'm like. He's like,

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didn't you see the news. I'm
like, no, yeah, I mean

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I hate to be one of those
like boomer sounding guys, but like I

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don't even look at the news at
all. I only look at it when

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it's bombarded at me and it's pops
up on my feet. It's yeah if

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it's like inescapable, Yeah, if
they're you know whatever, But I don't

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know. I hit a point in
like my probably mid twenties or so,

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where it was like every day or
every week there was some new thing that

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was going on that like I have
to be I'm scared, Like, oh

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my god, is this Like is
this the end of the world? Is

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this the end of Like are we
being attacked? Are we going to be

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attacked now? Like you know that. It's like news story after news story,

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and my fear hit that cap more
than once before I realized, like,

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a I'm only gonna get so afraid
and like how many times is that

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gonna happen with no actual like cataclysmic
result before I realize like it's fine and

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be like being afraid doesn't do anything
for anybody except hurt me and the collective

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consciousness right living in fear. It
is so wild to me. It's just

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like when you break it down,
not to go off on this tangent,

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please, it's just like you were
you were feeling some type of way because

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somebody on some screen similar to this
one that we're sitting here on, you

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told you something that evoked a feeling, right, and so it's like,

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that's that's the transaction that's happening.
So did whatever happened happen. It doesn't

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matter because this person that you trust
said, hey, this is happening,

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be afraid, be afraid, and
you said, ah, I'm afraid because

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I heard these words like it,
Like it's the reaction is the same,

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regardless of if the cause actually happened. So wild, it's like the fear

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very likely could have been the goal
all along. And oh yeah, you

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know, because then you're watching,
You're watching the next news cycle and the

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next well, oh, I hope
they learned something about this thing I'm afraid

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of they told me to be afraid
of, So I hope I hope there's

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some more news about that, because
I'm trying not to be afraid. So

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I'm only gonna not be afraid if
you tell me, don't be afraid.

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Literally, you're you know who said
be not afraid the angels bro right.

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When I realized again, probably around
my mid twenties, when I had the

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like thought the connection finally, like
wait a minute, news shows are television

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shows and and their success is based
off of the amount of ratings that they

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get. When I made that connection, I was like, oh, you

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motherfuckers. You know what the kill
shot is when you find out that every

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news station in the mainstream media is
owned by only six companies. Come on,

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now you know what the other kill
the illusion of being opponents. Oh

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yeah, it's like, no,
yea, all these major sporting outfits are

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classified I'm pretty sure this is true. You can fact check me. I

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don't care that they're they're they're classified
as entertainment industries. Yeah, which is

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some sort of loophole to where what
are sporting channels? Yeah? Oh like

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so like the NFL is a entertainment
industry. So it's like you can kind

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of use that to support an argument
that their league is rigged or the outcomes

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yeah or whatever. I little key
believe that stuff. It's true. It's

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absolutely true. Yeah. I mean, bro, too many times I don't

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I've never really cared about sports,
but my my dad and my brother it

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was always on the TV whatever.
There were like countless times where it was

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like obvious that a team was crushing
another team, and then all of a

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sudden at the half, like call
after call after call after call from referees

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that's like what what what are they
getting called for? Well, over and

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over and over and over and over, and then the other team would win

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and you're like hold up, Yeah, so we hadn't really addressed this and

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it's not like that important because I
feel like we're falling in the mainstream by

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addressing this year. But like,
okay, what can we just talk about,

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Like what are the odds Taylor?
What are the odds that Taylor Scheft

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gets with a football player and that
football player wins the super they wanted last

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year? No, I get it. Look, and the team's phenomenal.

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Andy Reid is like great coach,
Like I get even though I can't believe,

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you know, their jersey sales for
the NFL went up like four Yeah,

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what's you know what I don't understand
about this. I don't understand why

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more people in America, the land
of the Underdog, were not all about

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the brock pretty underdog story. Bro. You know, I'm so confused this

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this is the power of that.
My wife and I were flying back from

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Florida in December, and you know, Jenny likes Taylor Swift, like we

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we listen to Taylor Swift, like
some of her songs are pretty. And

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I mean, you didn't have to
admit that, but that's fine and admit

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that. Yeah, I mean,
you're on the wrong side of the fence,

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Alex, Yeah, honestly you are. I mean, how about like

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not judging people wave that bro?
We about positivity in here, Brian,

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I'm sorry. You can listen to
whatever you want. It doesn't bother me

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or have it. Oh, I
know it, Son, it doesn't have

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any bearing on my life. I
would have come out on this show and

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said a lot of things. No, but for real, you know.

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So so Jenny thought this was really
funny, and she's aware of the like

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crazy fandom stuff, but also like, you like what you like and it

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doesn't really like Dude, if everybody
that told me Naruto had a toxic fan

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base when we were in high school
and I gave into that, I would

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have never watched it and I would
have missed out on a great show.

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Yeah you know what I mean,
like who of all time? Yeah,

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because back when were in high school, everybody was like, oh dude,

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the people that like Naruto are weird
and they're running around when him z owns

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and it was true, but it's
like, damn, it's a good show.

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Where are you going with this?
Football? School? Was that kid?

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I was flying home from uh Florida
in December and Jenny was like,

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look and there was legit like a
twelve year old girl on across the aisle

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right beside me watching the NFL on
her tablet? What And Jenny was like,

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Dad, is exactly why this partnership
happened. Jenny was like, she's

408
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.240
a Tailor Swift fan, right what
twelve year old girl would be watching NFL?

409
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:07.359
And we were just kind of like
not being mean, but like giggling,

410
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.200
like this is ridiculous wits. Don't
sit here and tell me I can't

411
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:22.720
judge people. It's different, you
got it. You gotta hate The difference

412
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.920
is I didn't look at the girl
and be like you fucking take I wouldn't

413
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:34.680
have admitted that it's a little bit
like football. Yeah, No, it's

414
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:41.200
a little different. When you're giggling
very clearly. You know what. You

415
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.359
just go on, man, go
yeah, yeah, go on, man,

416
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.039
go on, get out mister mister. Oh, I'm not going to

417
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.960
weigh in on at and tis.
I did it. I did it.

418
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.880
Yeah, don't. I took us
off the rails. Can I pull us

419
00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.799
back here? No? No,
I'm glad you did this. I'm god

420
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.960
I enjoyed the conversation. This is
all tertiarily related. The point is I

421
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:07.880
agree with you about the NFL all
that stuff being ragged. No, I

422
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.480
know it's all right. I don't
want to die on that hill, though

423
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.599
I am not dying on an NFL
being rigged hill. Okay, see what

424
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:22.640
she does to us, man,
this is why she shouldn't be. The

425
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.039
other day, Nick was like,
on your on Alex at dad's porch.

426
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.599
Nick as in Alex's brother, Nick
was like, dude, I swear man,

427
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.200
there's frequencies in her music. Think
about it. And I'm like,

428
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:40.279
I mean, I mean probably,
I mean, come on now, oh

429
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.759
yeah, there's something. No,
I want to I want to pull up

430
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.799
here the frequency in the music.
Thing. I can't. I can only

431
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:52.079
shut it down so many times.
It doesn't it doesn't make sense, doesn't

432
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.920
make sense, you can't. You
can't do that, like from a music

433
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.079
theory perspective, from music. So
just to break it down as simple as

434
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.599
possible, the frequencies that we know
of that have effects on the human body

435
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:10.519
are outside of the frequency ranges of
the standard twelve note system that has been

436
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:15.480
used for everything thousands of years.
Well, I mean less than two thousand,

437
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.839
I think. But so what would
be more probable than the frequencies in

438
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:25.960
the music would be message suggestive messages
and what do they call that? That's

439
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:33.880
illegal? It's a it's illegal in
America. Yeah, Because just the simplest

440
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.039
way to put it is, if
they put frequencies that could have an effect

441
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.599
on the human body into music,
it would sound horrible because it would be

442
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:48.279
completely out of yeah, and it
would be out of key from the song

443
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.920
itself. So it's like, because
those notes don't match into the twelve note

444
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.680
system, they're like they're like fine
tuned completely outside of that range. They're

445
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.039
in between our twelve notes. So
like it's that's just not possible. But

446
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:07.680
the subliminal messaging thing, I've yeah, I one thousand percent believe that that's

447
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.359
Like, dude, you listen.
Think about it. You hear a catchy

448
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:15.759
song and you listen to it fifty
times in a year. Let's say that

449
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:21.640
message is getting pumped into your subconscious
Yeah, whatever the message is or the

450
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:23.480
song is about, like that,
especially Mileys Harris. I'm a witch,

451
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:27.880
I'm evil. I'm like, man, you really you're inciting a ton of

452
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.680
young ladies just be singing that.
Yeah, Like, what are you doing?

453
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.599
To be honest, I never heard
that song. I don't, but

454
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.759
I want to go listen to it
now, just to see how close that

455
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.839
singing was. Think of the children. Man, it's bad enough. We

456
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:44.480
got to watch an NFL on planes. Yeah, on playing young ladies.

457
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.759
Yeah, it's crazy, bro And
I said, I never, I never

458
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:52.000
said, I judge her. I
giggled because of the effect that the artist

459
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.079
had on this young girl who doesn't
give a flying fuck about football. Yeah,

460
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.759
I never. I never knew who
brock Pretty was, but I'm a

461
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.240
big brock Pretty fan. Now.
Who is that rock party is? The

462
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:08.200
was the other quarterback in the in
the Super Bowl for the forty and he

463
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:15.160
was the last draft pick off.
Man, he was the last draft What

464
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.519
are you saying? I said,
I said the forty nine ers, he

465
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:27.799
said twenty off man. All right, all right, I'm bringing this back,

466
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.920
bring us back. All right,
I want to share with you evermore.

467
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:37.559
I'm interrupting you. You already did
I know? I want to share

468
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.200
these small lyrics from look Around by
the Red Hot Chili Peppers. So this

469
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.720
is a good one. So you're
going to enter. You're going to interrupt

470
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:49.079
Ryan's lyrics in the middle and add
a whole song's worth of lyrics. This

471
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.759
is a good one. It's a
good haanger. It's just yeah, we'll

472
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.720
be right back, right back to
Ryan's Yeah, this was for the folks

473
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.160
in Fayetteville. It'll come true if
you say it will I don't know.

474
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.519
Wait, that was it. That's
the one little bit from the song that

475
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.079
I wanted to share. Okay,
So people are like, I don't know,

476
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:14.760
what does it mean? Is it
could just be some random thing that

477
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.920
he came up with. It could
be just a random ride there's a bunch

478
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.599
of Fayettevilles, or maybe he knew
something. I don't know, let's find

479
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:30.679
out when that song was written.
I never liked them. What I don't

480
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.360
even think you don't like the Chili
Peppers. I mean, I can enjoy

481
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.599
him now, but like growing up, I never here, I am judging

482
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.639
you again. I'm sorry. I'm
sorry, damn bro you on the judgment

483
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:45.400
wave. Yeah, damn sorry.
Sorry. Well, here we are out

484
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:51.079
there gassing you up for your hog, for your hog. Will you please

485
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.719
elaborate on that for you? Yeah, Alex just got a shiny new motorcycle

486
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.280
and two of them. Yeah,
two of them actually, And we went

487
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.840
out there and we're looking at him
and just he was just begging us to

488
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.639
sit on his hog man, and
I don't think any of us could stomach

489
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.400
the thought of knocking it over,
right, Yeah, we were all petrified

490
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.760
him. I'm not there in crocs. I'm like, I'm not equipped to

491
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.360
get on this. Yes, I
wear crocs, same same, I just

492
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.960
got my first pair. The song
was written or released in twenty eleven,

493
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:25.199
so good check out. I don't
know. It's definitely weird. This stuffinly

494
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.599
weird. Back to them, Thank
you for that sponsored message, Alex.

495
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.480
So yeah, that's from me.
Now back to Ryan for the Battle of

496
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.679
overmore So, we're waiting for the
Eastern Glow. If you remember where we

497
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:39.920
left off, the Apples of the
Valley, Hold the seeds of happiness.

498
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.199
The ground is rich from tender care, repay. Do not forget, no,

499
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:45.320
no, Oh, dance in the
dark of night, sing to the

500
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.679
morning light. The apples turned to
brown and black. The tyrants face is

501
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.760
red. Oh, the war is
calm and cry, pick up your swords

502
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.559
and fly. The sky is filled
with good and bad that mortals will never

503
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.800
know. Oh well, the night
is long. The beads of time pass

504
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:01.679
slow, eyes on the sunrise,
waiting for the eastern glow. The pain

505
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.599
of war. Oh, I did
actually read this part. I'm sorry,

506
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.679
I'm loving it going. The pain
of war cannot exceed the woe of aftermath.

507
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.719
The drums will shake the castle wall. The ring rates right in black,

508
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.800
right on. Uh, seeing as
you raise your bow, shoot straighter

509
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.519
than before. No comfort has fire
at night. The lights wo that lights

510
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.000
the face so cold. Oh,
dance in the dark of night, Sing

511
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.920
to the morning light. The magic
runes are written gold. To bring the

512
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.519
balance back. O, bring it
back at last. The sun is shining.

513
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:36.760
The clouds of blue roll by with
flames from the dragon of darkness.

514
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.440
The sunlight blinds his eyes and then
the rest of it is just like,

515
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:44.760
bring it back, Bring it back, dude, come on, tell me

516
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.840
that's not like prophecy about like the
Final War, you know, metaphorically like

517
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.039
the spiritual forces, the final war
of darkness and light and the Eastern Glow

518
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.119
and the angels of Avalon coming down
and the sky is filled with the good

519
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.360
and bad and you know, the
tyrant is destroyed and the dragon of darkness

520
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:01.760
is blinded the light of the sun. It's it's like it's like biblical prophecy.

521
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.880
Man also wild that lord of the
rings two Towers, uh Gandolf shines

522
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.800
a white hot light at the ring
rays to make them fly away. Yeah,

523
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:20.360
like bro it's and and also the
this this allegory, this like endless

524
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:27.440
uh war, this final war between
good and evil is like one of the

525
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:32.480
most used tropes out there. But
if you pay attention, like it's low

526
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.119
key, the most important, like
it is, it's the central it's the

527
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:44.760
core message of so many because popular
works throughout history absolutely like it's not just

528
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.880
for nothing, and also like you
can feel it in your soul. It

529
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:57.880
just resonates that it's not just talking
about material good bad fight like it's it's

530
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.440
a it's a battle of souls,
right, the spiritual wars, Yes,

531
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.599
yes, it's a spiritual war,
absolute dude. Even growing up like it

532
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.360
was, it was so weird.
But around the time that my parents made

533
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:13.639
me rip up my Pokemon cards,
that the way that they would rationalize if

534
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.199
things were okay to watch or not
is they would tell me, well,

535
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.760
yeah, like that's sure, you
can watch Lord of the Rings. That's

536
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:28.239
fine because that's about the battle of
good versus evil. Literally bro literally thatjectively

537
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:34.679
way more horrifying than and magical and
demonic and Pokemon. Oh absolutely, absolutely

538
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.079
they would rather. That's how they
would like. That was their barometer for

539
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.239
if it was okay for me to
watch or not. There are demons in

540
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.960
Lord of the Rings. There there
is a fucking king of darkness, Like

541
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.760
there's like a stitch king. Yeah, there's like a straight up Satan character

542
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:57.039
like with an eye of flame.
Like it's it's pure evil, Like it

543
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.039
is pure fucking evil. And yes, they're right, like it's like the

544
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:06.400
good triumphs over the evil, and
so ultimately it is like the best message

545
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.480
that there is. But like,
come on, it's like cutesy little blue

546
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:15.599
and red animals like shooting little water
and fire at each other versus like a

547
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:23.960
fucking orcs, limbs flying around and
like eating people eating like that was the

548
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.639
barometer. Okay, yeah, no, that's the You kind of got lucky

549
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.119
that you were able to watch.
You're very lucky. Yeah, I really

550
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.360
did get it. That's hilarious.
Okay, So if we thought it was

551
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.960
a coincidence, the Battle of Evermore
literally started with the Queen of Light.

552
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.199
Right, Oh okay, Chris Bletso
saw a lady, she says, beams

553
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.000
LEDs up on into his head songs
about Queen of Light. Well, let's

554
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.119
take a look. Stairway you ready, stairway to Heaven. There's a lady.

555
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.639
Wait can you take wait, can
you do the the can you do

556
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:58.960
the intro Stairway to Heaven? Boom
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom

557
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:07.360
boom. This says something like,
yeah, dune down, huh boom boom.

558
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:13.760
Yeah, that's exactly it goes.
Yeah, check it. There's a

559
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:20.360
lady in the sky. Put your
hands up. There is a lady who's

560
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.440
sure all that glitters is gold,
and she's buying a stairway to Heaven.

561
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:28.280
When she gets there, she knows
if the stores are all closed with a

562
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.679
word, she can get what she
came for. Oh, and she's buying

563
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.440
a stairway to heaven. There's a
sign on the wall, but she wants

564
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.239
to be sure, because you know, sometimes words can have two meanings.

565
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.760
In a tree by the brook,
there's a songbird who sings. Sometimes all

566
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.239
of our thoughts are misgiven. It
makes me wonder, It makes me wonder.

567
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:46.719
There's a feeling I get when I
look to the west and my spirit

568
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:51.719
is crying for leaving and my thoughts. I have seen rings of smoke through

569
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.360
the trees and the voices of those
who stand looking. What are they looking

570
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:58.239
at? I don't know. Oh, it makes me wonder, really makes

571
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.400
me wonder, And it's whispered,
that's soon. If we all call the

572
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.280
tune, then the piper will lead
us to reason. Hang on, hang

573
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.239
on, pause, because that that
lyric right there reminds me of when your

574
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.760
dad gets everybody on the same page
to look up at the sky. Yeah,

575
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.880
we all call the tune. Yeah
wow, like tuning into the same

576
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:22.400
frequency, tuning into the same like
mind wave, mind wave. And it's

577
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.360
whispered that soon. If we all
call the tune, then the piper will

578
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.880
lead us to reason and a new
day will dawn for those who stand long

579
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.880
in the forests will echo with laughter
age of Aquarius. I don't know.

580
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.559
Damn if there's a bustle in your
hedgerow, don't be alarmed now, it's

581
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.719
just a spring clean for the may
queen. Yes, there are two pads

582
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.880
you can go by, but in
the long run, there's still time to

583
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.519
change the roads you're on. And
it makes me wonder. Your head is

584
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:45.800
humming and it won't go. In
case you don't know, the piper is

585
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.840
calling you to join his zetta.
Sorry, was that a right hand left

586
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.800
hand path? Reference there too?
That's what I was to pass. Two

587
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.280
pads you can go by. Yes, there are two pads you can go

588
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.639
by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road

589
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.679
you're on. I think about it
like Christ consciousness awakening, like you can

590
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.079
never it's never too late to get
on the right path. It makes me

591
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.559
wonder your head is humming and it
won't go. And in case you don't

592
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.679
know, the piper is calling you
to join him. Dear lady, can

593
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.079
you hear the wind blow? And
did you know your stairway lies on the

594
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.119
whispering wind? And as we wind
on down the road our shadows taller than

595
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.119
our soul. There walks a lady
we all know, who shines white light

596
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:28.440
and wants to show how everything still
turns to gold alchemy the soul, right,

597
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.639
o man, And if you listen
very hard, the tune will come

598
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.599
to you. At last. When
all are one and one is all to

599
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.800
be a rock and not to roll. Rock and roll baby, and she's

600
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.079
buying a stairway to heaven. Damn, when all are one and one is

601
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.760
all to be a rock and not
to roll. I think about it like

602
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.079
the transmutation of the soul and the
awakening, you know, like first of

603
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.239
all, there's a lady, there's
a queen of light and two of their

604
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.039
songs. Oh yeah, no,
no, that's where did they get that

605
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:58.119
from exactly? That's like a central
recurring theme, this lady of light,

606
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.920
this lady that will following. And
it also mentioned a may queen, which

607
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.119
is obviously referring to the same entity
most likely. But it's like there's all

608
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:12.480
this imagery of this like divine feminine
entity or energy. We were a big

609
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.719
van Halen family. I want to
harp on this real quick, okay,

610
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:24.360
because in in the fifth grade,
I had to do a project and it

611
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:29.920
was the worst project ever where we
had to take a song and then change

612
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.519
one word in the song to give
it a new meeting. Ultimately I ended

613
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.039
up, but I ended up choosing
Stairway to Heaven. Oh N. So

614
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.800
I have read those lyrics and listen
to that song like I can't listen to

615
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:45.000
it anymore because I over listened it. Right, So anyway, I may

616
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.320
be telling you guys something that you're
like, yeah, duh, But this

617
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.639
is the first time hearing it said
where I'm sitting here thinking she's not buying

618
00:43:53.719 --> 00:44:00.320
the Stairway to Heaven for herself.
This is not a selfish I always thought

619
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.119
for us to be a selfish acts. She's building the Stairway to Heaven.

620
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:09.639
She's bridging the worlds for us.
I and if we all call the tune,

621
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.880
we get to use it. This
is late to change the roads you're

622
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.960
on? Right, No, Alex, No you're that That did not occur

623
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.400
to me at all until this moment. Yeah, every time I listen to

624
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.800
the song, I think, damn, that lady, she just keeps,

625
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:29.840
she comes down, she buys whatever
she wants. Stairway to Heaven. Yeah,

626
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.039
I always thought of like the Tower
of Babylon, Like yeah, like

627
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:36.280
that or something. Yeah, that's
what I meant. Jacob's like they're trying

628
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:42.880
to like find some material way into
the spiritual. Oh okay, like yeah,

629
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:46.079
like cheating their way to heaven kind
of thing. Sele, Wow,

630
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:54.440
yeah, you just be No,
that's that's really really insightful. Alex.

631
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:00.440
That's crazy anytime that I'm hearing the
lyrics broken down, like like okay,

632
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:05.679
wait, let's take this a step
further. No, no, no,

633
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.960
no, no, no, we
have done that in like three years.

634
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.639
It's not it's not it's not.
It's she's buying a stairway to heaven,

635
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:21.199
and so like, let's just pretend
that this is an exact relation to your

636
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:29.239
father's story and the lady. What
did this cost the lady? Like what

637
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:37.320
karmicalle or like what at what cost
did the lady come and buy this stairway

638
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:43.159
to heaven to interface with us,
to help us on our journey? Is

639
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.119
this rhetorical or do you have no? I mean, is it? I

640
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.960
don't know. I mean I don't
expect you guys to have the answer.

641
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.880
Do you I'm like hooked right now, and I'm like begging you for the

642
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.159
answer. Do you have the answer? Well, no, because I'm sitting

643
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.280
here thinking, you know what,
like because i'm and correct me if I'm

644
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:06.599
wrong. But she said, we're
we're the the guardians of of humanity and

645
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.840
we're the shepherds of humanity. Well
being said that. The being said that,

646
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:12.719
Okay, so not the lady.
I think the lady is a little

647
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:16.639
bit, but she's a being.
So I'm sitting here thinking, like like

648
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:22.039
comically or like because I don't I
don't think that there's like like angel lady

649
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.719
currency, But I'm like, dang, like what did it cost her?

650
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:30.000
Like what like what was the cost? Because nothing's free, right, Like

651
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:37.000
maybe maybe the cost because like if
you think about we've talked about the realm

652
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:42.199
of the phenomenon as sort of like
that they're in the spirit realm that which

653
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.400
you could call it heaven or whatever
whatever you want to call it. So

654
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:52.920
maybe the cost is like being here
instead of being there, like she is

655
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.239
here helping us. It's similar to
it's a parallel to like the story of

656
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.599
Jesus. Mean yeah, like God, because God and Jesus could have been

657
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:06.079
That's what I was thinking. The
price was some sort of could have I

658
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.639
mean, you could just be chilling
in heav right, Yeah, yeah,

659
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:14.199
you didn't. You decided to come
down and experience pain. It's like it's

660
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.920
like Galadriel from the Lord of the
Rings. She was gonna she was gonna

661
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.159
pass on to the land of the
West. And he said, he keeps

662
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:27.599
looking towards the west for his soul. Yes. Uh. And she was

663
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.199
on the ship about to pass into
the land of Valenor, which is heaven,

664
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:35.199
and she looked back on the world
of man, and she dove out

665
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.320
of that ship and she came back
nice. She sacrificed. That's the cost.

666
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:44.519
Maybe, you know, she sacrificed
that like paradise to come here and

667
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.360
into this like you know, hell, like realm, if you would,

668
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.360
and like help humanity. That's really
cool. Let's let's move on because I

669
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.199
got two more songs, okay,
And this is going by a lot quicker

670
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.280
than I thought it would. So
remember I told you when I was a

671
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.800
kid, we were all up and
down Van Halen. Dude, that's my

672
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.360
dad's favorite band of all time,
Big van Halen family as well. Yeah,

673
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.199
as we got older, it became
more led Zeppelin. But like literally

674
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.920
when I was a kid, we
were jamming Van Halen and yeah. Dad

675
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.000
was like, oh, yeah,
the song love Walks in. Go look

676
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.079
at the lyrics. There's a message
in it. I was like, Okay.

677
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:21.599
Contact is all it takes to change
your life, to lose your place

678
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.039
and time. Contact asleep or awake
coming around. You may wake up to

679
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:31.760
find questions deep with it now more
than you ever realize. And then you

680
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.840
sense a change. Nothing feels the
same. All your dreams are strange.

681
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.960
Love comes walking in some kind of
alien, waits for the opening, then

682
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.239
simply pulls a string. Another world, some other time. You lay your

683
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.599
sanity on the line. Familiar faces, familiar sights, reach back, remember

684
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.360
with all your white, all your
might. Oh there she stands in a

685
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.960
silken gown, silver lights shining down. So when you sense a change,

686
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.800
nothing feels the same. All your
dreams are strange. Love comes walking in

687
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:06.519
some kind of alien, waits for
the open opening, then simply pulls a

688
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:09.519
string. Love comes walking in.
Oh, sleeping dream is all I crave.

689
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.440
I travel far across the milky Way
to my master. I become a

690
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.639
slave till we meet again some other
day, where silence speaks as loud as

691
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.800
war. Earth returns to what it
was before, and then you sense a

692
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.360
change. Nothing feels the same.
All your dreams are strange. Love comes

693
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.599
walking in. Some kind of alien
waits for the opening, then simply pulls

694
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.719
a string. Love comes walking in, and then it just repeats. Love

695
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.159
comes walking in, dude, some
kind of alien. A lady in a

696
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.280
silver gown walks in, and she's
addressed as love, and she takes you

697
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.159
far across the milky way. Come
on, it could not be more on

698
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:44.119
the nose. And when you hear
that song, like when I was a

699
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.719
kid, you know, my dad
would be like singing that song like to

700
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:50.480
my mom, like in the car, like looking at my mom, like

701
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.760
schmoozing her up. Whatever. So
I'm always like, oh, it's a

702
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.239
cheesy love song. Whatever, it's
just a love song. But then looking

703
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.960
at it through this lens, it's
so obvious. It's weird. It's it's

704
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.079
very weird, and I'm like,
I've never looked into this, but I'm

705
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:10.920
compelled to look into Like if Sammy
Hagar had some sort of UFO experience,

706
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.719
probably did, because that's a Sammy
Hagar van Halen song, right, I

707
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.360
mean that's not David Lee Roth.
That is which album, is it show

708
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.800
that's Sammy Hagar. Yeah, that's
Sammy Hagar. Okay, so this might

709
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.800
be the weirdest one of them all. This is after the gold Rush that

710
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.320
Neil Young. Yeah, this is
crazy. This is one of the main

711
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:37.360
songs that the phenomenon told him.
They were like after the gold Rush,

712
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:45.360
Battle of Evermore and then Love Walks
In and Cashmere. It was. It

713
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.079
was a few songs, but this
is one of the ogs. And this

714
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.840
is me and Ryan's first like experience. Yeah. When I when I was

715
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:57.320
explaining this to Alex, he was
just shook. So it says, well,

716
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.599
I dreamed I saw the knights and
armor coming saying something about a queen.

717
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.639
There were peasants singing and drummer's drumming, and the archer split the tree.

718
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:07.639
This came out in the seventies.
By the way, there was a

719
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.599
fanfare blowing to the sun that was
floating on the breeze. Look at Mother

720
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.960
Nature on the run in the nineteen
seventies. Look at Mother Nature on the

721
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.639
run in the nineteen seventies. I
was lying in a burned out basement with

722
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.000
a full moon in my eyes.
I was hoping for replacement. When the

723
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:25.119
sun burst through the sky. There
was a band playing in my head and

724
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.719
I felt like getting high. I
was thinking about what a friend had said.

725
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:30.679
I was hoping it was a lie. Thinking about what a friend had

726
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:36.119
said, hoping it was a lie. Well, I dreamed. I saw

727
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.880
the silver space ships lying in the
yellow haze of the sun. There were

728
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:44.079
children crying and colors flying all around, the chosen ones, all in a

729
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.920
dream, all in a dream.
The loading had begun, flying Mother Nature's

730
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:58.079
silver seed to a new home in
the sun. That's very weird. That's

731
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:04.360
very very weird. Is weird?
There are so many things. So yeah,

732
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.639
so something I wanted to hit on, which was I think this was

733
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:12.400
initially Alex's idea for this episode was
like the more I started digging after my

734
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.840
dad told me these things, I
started researching into led Zeppelin. And it

735
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:22.920
turns out, as you guys know, Jimmy Page was like an extremely devout

736
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:30.800
disciple of Aleistter Crowley's teachings, went
so far as to buy Aleistair Crowley's bullskin

737
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:37.400
manner, which is like the mansion
that sits on lockneis lockedness. So there

738
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.400
are actually conspiracies out there, like
if there's any sort of nessy entity or

739
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.960
whatever is going on with lockness.
Some people out there think it's because of

740
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.320
that manner, if there's anything at
all, I have no idea how could

741
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.760
I ever know full disclosure, I
did not know that where I did not

742
00:52:54.920 --> 00:53:00.519
know that that is wild. Yeah, And Jimmy Page actually reported that it

743
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:07.119
was haunted by a head of a
previously beheaded soldier or whoever owned the manor

744
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:12.840
before and yeah, and he would
do rituals and sort of occult practices there.

745
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:17.199
And when they were asked like what
is the meaning behind the symbols and

746
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.079
the name Zoso on the Zoso album, they didn't really give like a real

747
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:27.760
explanation other than that it was esoteric
in nature. And we you know,

748
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:31.639
we know for a fact that Jimmy
Page was into the esoteric, and it

749
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:38.199
speculated that Zoso was the name of
some sort of demon that perhaps may have

750
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:44.000
been communicated through with a Wuiji board
that gave the name Zoso. Is any

751
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.519
of this true, I don't know. What I do know is that he

752
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:52.119
really said these things, which right
there automatically that gives us like a firm

753
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:57.360
connection to led Zeppelin and some sort
of knowledge of the occult right, so

754
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.639
we understand, do I really know
that they're evil? In talk the demons

755
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:02.199
know? And quite frankly, I
don't care. I don't know them.

756
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.960
But what I do know is that
there's some sort of esoteric symbolism in their

757
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:09.679
music for sure, right, without
a doubt. To deny that at this

758
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:14.519
point would would kind of like border
on ignorance, considering that, like it's

759
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:19.320
public knowledge that Jimmy Page was a
disciple of the occult, you know,

760
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.559
dude, black Dog. Yeah,
I don't know the lyrics, but it's

761
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:28.960
it's about the serious. Yeah,
and even like the Immigrant song is a

762
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:32.599
song about Norse mythology. Yeah,
Like it's like you know, they're talking

763
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:37.239
about Balhalla in that song like and
stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

764
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.480
I wish you would put the camera
on yourself when you did that, But

765
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.639
I'm so glad I've been trying to
camera. I'll forgive you even that,

766
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.480
which, like you know, somebody
could say, what about immigrants song,

767
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:54.360
Like even that is about we just
did a Norse Mythology episode about how esoteric

768
00:54:54.440 --> 00:55:00.880
it is absolutely like mythology. All
of their songs have like these fantastical lyrics.

769
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:06.280
It's very high fantasy, high mythology, high occult, esoteric, like

770
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:10.519
it's rich in their music, not
to mention like, uh, when led

771
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:15.079
Zeppelin was at their prime, they
were literally the biggest band in the world.

772
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:20.800
Yeah. So, like if there
was a band that some CIA operative

773
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.480
would like try to you know,
we know what's that band that was,

774
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:29.159
uh, the one that the CIA
worked with, the Grateful Dead, like

775
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:34.440
the Doors. Yeah that's because uh
gosh, you got me on the spot

776
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:38.920
here and I can't remember the name
Morris Jefferson. His father was in the

777
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:42.360
CIA, was high level CIA.
I'm just saying, like, we know

778
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:46.400
that they work with artists and and
slip you know, propaganda and information and

779
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.800
things like that. And you know, we also know because they studied your

780
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.599
boy, that they're very aware of
occult knowledge and the phenomenon and prophecies and

781
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:57.639
things of that nature. They're very, very fucking interested in that stuff.

782
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.360
I can tell you that through lived
experience, and it would make sense to

783
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:04.519
me that if that was true,
that they actually did that, led Zeppelin

784
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:09.039
would be the band to do it. Yeah. Absolutely. The symbol the

785
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:14.360
symbols are everywhere. The symbology in
the lyrics is everywhere, and I mean

786
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:19.639
like it's that's one of the most
on the nose examples, like that's Jimmy

787
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:24.079
Page is the name that gets brought
up the most in the like hateful discussions

788
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:29.400
about rock music and the devil.
It's it's always Jimmy Page, Like led

789
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:36.599
Zeppel Ozzy, Yeah, well think
about it. Ozzie came after after eighties.

790
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:38.599
Yeah, I mean they were around
in the seventies, like the late

791
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:43.519
seventies, but yeah, Ozzy is
very much like after the whole led Zeppelin

792
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:46.880
wave. So they they try to
point at led Zeppelin and Jimmy Page as

793
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:52.639
like the original example. Dude,
even in a even in Pick of Destiny

794
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:57.000
like that that he was the first
like rock guitarist that got a hold of

795
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.239
the pick. I think I'm pretty
sure, pretty sure it was Jimmy Page,

796
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.840
and then it eventually fell into the
hands of Eddie van Halen, which,

797
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:06.800
by the way, we didn't say
all rip, all right, oh

798
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.920
yeah, that breaks my heart.
That was I don't really get crushed over

799
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.719
like celebrity death and things like that, but that one was like, dang,

800
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.719
yeah, that's like he's the reason
why I play guitar. The first

801
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:21.159
time I ever went to Nick's house, I was like fifteen years old.

802
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:22.519
I was like, can you play
a eruption by Van Halen? And you're

803
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:29.639
just like, my but you know
why. But you know why because my

804
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:35.360
dad showed me a video of Eddie
van Halen playing eruption and he was just

805
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:39.480
it was the most mind blowing thing
I've ever seen. It truly really blew

806
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:44.239
my mind. I'll never forget him
showing me that. And then he was

807
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:45.639
like, Okay, he showed me
and then he was like, Nick,

808
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:52.320
I will get you a guitar,
a simple guitar if you can learn that

809
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.880
song, I'll buy you any piece
of guitar equipment you want, wow,

810
00:57:55.159 --> 00:58:00.400
anything. And so I got a
guitar that Christmas. I made it my

811
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:06.559
mission and I learned it. And
then he bought me this freaking huge sweet

812
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.360
Marshal amp. You remember that big
marshal huge You would sit on it?

813
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:13.039
Yeah? Literally, I turn it
on, sit on it to play.

814
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.599
Yeah, yep, that's like that
is ingreat. That's a that was a

815
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.920
core memory. You know, it's
crazy there. So last Christmas, I

816
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.599
went to a wedding in Cleveland,
Ohio. So naturally we went to the

817
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:24.519
Rock and Roll Museum or Hall of
Fame or whatever it's called. And I

818
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:30.480
went to like this exhibit on the
top floor that had like these documentary stock

819
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.239
videos about like rock legends, like
eddievan Halem was one of them, and

820
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:38.880
he was explaining in his sex segment
that the way he learned how to do

821
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:45.960
fingertapping was he was like watching Jimmy
Page Page on stage. He was doing

822
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:51.119
it was basically like Jimmy would hit
it out and then hold his guitar up

823
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:54.159
in the air and do hammer on
and pull off notes, which is like

824
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:59.320
a fairly simple thing. But Eddie
saw that and was like, what if

825
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.800
I did that and then just did
one more finger and then he you know,

826
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:08.519
he used to turn around. Yeah, yeah, because he saw it,

827
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:13.119
and I thought that was so cool. It was just kind of like

828
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:15.519
to build the mystique around it,
because even in interviews he would be like,

829
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.519
no, I didn't invent it.
People were always like, you invented

830
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.159
this brand new Like He's like,
no, I didn't invent it. I

831
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.199
saw Jimmy Page do it, yeah, and then he but he just turned

832
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:29.440
around to like build the mystique.
He'd always do like a kitchy little smile

833
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:34.400
and he would turn around and start
tapping like so iconic. Yeah, so

834
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.360
iconic. That's awesome. Yeah,
I don't think I have any more songs

835
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.320
at the moment. How do you
guys feel about that one? That was

836
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:44.559
pretty fun? Yeah, that was
so cool. Uh. I think that

837
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:50.800
this whole like message in the music
thing is pretty much like an infinite,

838
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.880
evergreen thing that we could do every
now and then, like, because there

839
00:59:55.239 --> 01:00:01.599
this is we kind of stuck in
one very like focused little niche here of

840
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:07.480
like seventies rock and roll, seventies
and eighties rock and roll vibes, you

841
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.800
know, and look how many examples
we found. I like that because,

842
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:14.199
like, I don't think that,
you know, some shiny angel has to

843
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:16.599
come down or a CIA operative and
give you lyrics for them to be inspired.

844
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:21.119
Like I do believe that there are
many artists out there who just are

845
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.840
tapped in and they reach to a
really deep place and they pull out very

846
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:30.119
profound lyrics. And also to this
day, some of our very first episodes

847
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:34.719
of this entire podcast were about concepts
like that, Like, if I remember

848
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:39.599
correctly, episode five, I was
talking about just like Magic by Ariana Grande.

849
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:43.679
Yeah, and in that episode I
said I hated Taylor Swift ooh.

850
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.000
And three years later, I mean, I'm just calling them out on what

851
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:54.920
he said. Now, three years
later, I can humbly say I tolerate

852
01:00:55.039 --> 01:01:00.800
her what and it makes my wife
very happy. For three years I've been

853
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.280
waiting for you. Yeah, the
truth comes out. Man. I'm I'm

854
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.599
a more mature person. Now do
you guys know about Jim Sullivan? No,

855
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:16.320
never met him. Oh, Jim
Sullivan. Jim wrote this album and

856
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:21.599
the album title is UFO, and
then he wrote this album and disappeared.

857
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:25.360
We didn't even get into Boston,
Bro Boston. Their album covers the UFO

858
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:29.199
right right, right right, Yeah, it's more than a feeling, you

859
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:31.000
know what I mean. That fits
right into that niche too. Yeah,

860
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:35.639
like the seventies. Yeah, I
like that idea having some more like kind

861
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.480
of music segments that'd be fun.
It's just like music is uh. I

862
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:44.679
feel like music is one of those
like pure channels for like that humans can

863
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:50.239
access, like it bypasses your like
logic thinking brain. You can get into

864
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:55.360
that like flow state with music where
it's like stuff comes from another realm through

865
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:01.880
you, like you see me dance. What is that supposed to be corroboration

866
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:07.599
for what I'm saying, is reaching
down? Yeah, yeah, I'm not

867
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.920
a dancer. And then and then
y'all start playing music. We're sitting at

868
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:15.880
the studio and I start grooving.
He do be shaking his ass. Ain't

869
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:21.079
gonna lie, man, what he
great idea for this episode? Great?

870
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.880
It was Alex's idea. I'm gonna
bow to Alex again and I shall as

871
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:30.719
well. We worship you, yes, thank you for your venerate you well.

872
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:36.639
Thank you guys for listening. And
I want to say a lot of

873
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:38.760
exciting things are happening in our lives, as you heard on Stream of Consciousness

874
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:43.079
three. But actually Nick has been
living with me this week. It's been

875
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:49.719
freaking awesome. And uh, if
you guys are members of our Patreon slash

876
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:52.199
discord, uh, we're gonna do
a special full disclosure tonight and Nick is

877
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:57.760
gonna be our special guest. Yeah, it's my first time and I'll probably

878
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:02.599
have been out for weeks already after
this episode comes out, but you'll see

879
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:07.360
what watch them all. I'm excited. Yeah, bye guys, Bye guys.

880
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:15.960
Weird things happen in the backyard of
Bletsoe House and see it over said,

881
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:27.880
look up, it's so weird coming
closer to us. Here stayed straight

882
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:36.719
up, like smiring on the inside
of it. No one knows. Man,

883
01:03:39.280 --> 01:04:21.360
Wow, it's come right ever shin
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