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Hi, and welcome back to The
Unseen Podcast, a podcast dedicated to missing

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people, unresolved cases, and UK
true crime. Today, we're going to

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be doing something a little different with
our episode about a missing person, and

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we're going to be doing an update
episode of sorts. Following on from my

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episode about the disappearance of Anne my
Ring, which was published in April of

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this year, I had the pleasure
of communicating with one of Anne's sons,

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David. He spoke to me about
the impact that his mother's disappearances had on

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him and his family, and he
added more detail to the initial episode that

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I did. I wanted to put
out an update episode just for clarity and

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to make sure that I could include
the things that David told me. I'm

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going to add the initial episode to
the beginning of this one so that you

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can either refresh your memories about the
case, or so that you can listen

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to it if you haven't already.
If you have already listened and remember it

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well, then skip forward to around
the thirty minute mark. This episode does

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not contain any graphic details. However, it does concern a missing person,

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so listener discretion is always advised.
This is the first of these episodes,

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and today we're covering the nineteen ninety
seven disappearance of Admiring from South Gloucestershire.

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This is a case with so many
twists and turns and some developments over the

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years, but her disappearance is still
a mystery and it remains unsolved. This

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episode is about a missing person and
so does not contain any descriptions of violence,

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but listener discretion is always advised.
Stoke Gifford is a village located in

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the south of the County of Gloucestershire. In two thousand and one, the

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village had around eleven thousand residents.
However, in twenty years this number has

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almost doubled. It's around seven miles
from the city of Bristol and there far

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as an area where many people commute
to and from on a daily basis.

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It's a relatively quiet and peaceful area. However, its proximity to several head

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offices meant that it was an area
where people would travel to for work.

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One of these couples who had made
their careers in and around Stoke Gifford was

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Brian and Anne my Ring. Brian
and Anne were married with two sons,

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David and Stephen. Brian worked at
the Rolls Royce facility in nearby Filton,

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Bristol, and Anne worked as a
clerical officer at the computer company Hewlett Packard.

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The couple met in nineteen seventy one
when they were in their late teens

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a pub named a New Inn.
They'd hit it off very quickly, and

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they married and moved to Chevining close
in Stoke, Gifford. Together. The

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pair had their two sons, and
it's reported that Anne put her career on

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hold to raise her children. Both
Brian and Anne were involved with the local

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community, and particularly in the cub
and Scout groups in Filton. In Bristol,

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the couple were well liked and Anne
was known as a caring and thoughtful

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person who was close to her family
and did everything to try and help them.

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During nineteen ninety seven, Anne and
her family were dealing with a very

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stressful situation when Anne's mother, Gwendolyn, was diagnosed with throat cancer. Anne

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was constantly with her and by her
side, getting her through the treatments.

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Gwendolen would later describe Anne as her
best friend and not just her daughter.

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This must have added a great deal
of stress. The Myring family. However,

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Anne continued to look after only her
mother, but her family as well.

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Her son David later described her as
a warm and caring mum who always

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showed him affection and love. He
said she was really caring, always there,

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intelligent as well. She liked doing
crosswords and that a metal detecting she

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used to find quite a few coins. Stephen An's other son also described her

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in the same way, stating she
was a real kind, caring person.

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I could speak to her about many
things and she was always there for us.

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The Myring family appeared to be just
like any other family, with teenagers

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always busy, but also trying to
make plans for their own futures when their

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children flew the nest. By nineteen
ninety seven, Anne and Brian were forty

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four and forty five years old and
were enjoying their lives. This so called

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normal life that the family were living, however, was rocked. In July

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nineteen ninety seven. The Myring family
had been almost ripped apart by an unexpected

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incident. Anne had left a family
home and hadn't returned, and it had

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been several weeks since any one in
her family had seen her. This was

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so out of character, and everyone
who knew Anne didn't understand where she had

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gone or what could have happened.
She hadn't been reported missing for a few

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weeks since she had last been seen, and the events surrounding that last day

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were relatively unclear. That day,
Anne Miring headed to work at Hewlett Packard

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as she usually did. Her colleagues
didn't report anything different about her that day

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or anything out of the ordinary that
she said or did. Anne allegedly told

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them that she was going to head
home and then she was off out for

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a meal with her husband Brian that
night. This of course, didn't ring

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any alarm bells and sounded like any
usual evening to her colleagues. Anne left

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Hewlett Packard at the end of her
work day, and her sons David and

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Stephen saw her that night. When
she got home. The next day,

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however, was a different story.
They both later recalled that the next morning

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their mother wasn't there. When they
asked where she was, their father,

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Brian, told them that Anne had
gone away to a health farm for the

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rest of that week and the weekend. While this seemed a little out of

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the blue, David and Stephen seemed
to accept this explanation until the following morning,

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when the weekend had ended and their
mum had still not returned. At

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this point, Brian told his sons
that Anne had actually left him and there

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had been problems with the relationship.
This shocked David and Stephen, as they

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hadn't been aware that anything was wrong, especially to the extent that their mother

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would have left the family home.
David later commented on how he felt at

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the time hearing this new piece of
information. He told the Independent newspaper,

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Me and Steve were really shocked.
We didn't think anything was going wrong with

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the relationship. Apparently they had been
arguing quite a lot that week and going

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out on regular drives to chat about
it away from us. I think it

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was about money. The fact that
their parents were having problems in their marriage

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wasn't the most shocking part. It
was the fact that Anne had simply left

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the home and then behind without contacting
anyone at all. This seemed so unlike

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her and couldn't really be explained.
When Anne hadn't returned, she was officially

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reported missing to the police. Brian
later stated that he didn't report her missing

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straight away as he thought she had
left him. It was only when a

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family member also noticed her absence that
they officially reported her missing. Brian had

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contacted the police about her disappearance,
However, this was done informally and an

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official report had not been made before
this point. The police were able to

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establish that she had last been seen
on the twenty fifth of June, and

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they attempted to figure out where she
could have gone next. They had established

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that Anne had driven her Voxhall Carlton
car home and that the car remained there

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despite Anne's absence. They also discovered
that Anne had already booked off the next

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day, Thursday, the twenty sixth
of June. When police looked into her

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bank account activity, they discovered that
Anne had not accessed her account or used

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any credit or debit cards, and
she had also not picked up four hundred

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pounds in wages that she was owed
from her job. If she had vanished

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of her own volition, then why
had she not told anyone where she was

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and how was she going to live
her life without contacting them. When her

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belongings were checked, heard that she
had taken some of her belongings, like

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some clothing. However, there were
some odd features particularly the fact that she

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had not taken her makeup, her
jewelry, and seemed to have left behind

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nine single shoes. The police were
not convinced that Anne would have just walked

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away, and neither were her family. Anne's younger sister, Jane, spoke

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to the press at the time that
Anne went missing. She stated, We're

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all very worried about Anne and just
want to hear from her. It's very

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stressful. Our mother has had an
operation for cancer and this isn't helping her

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recovery. We're a very close family
and it's very out of character for Anne

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not to keep in touch. She
was devoted to her boys. She has

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never left home like this before.
We have no idea why she has disappeared,

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and there is nothing obvious that would
make her go, and she's never

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done it before. We just believe
that she was unhappy. We have no

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clues as to where she is.
The fact that Anne's mother had had an

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operation and Anne had not checked in
to see what the results were was also

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alarming, given how close Anne and
her mum were and how hard she'd been

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working to look after her after her
cancer diagnosis. Anne's family contacted the missing

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person's Bureau for help in trying to
locate her, and they supported the family

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by printing hundreds of posters and flyers
with Anne's information. These were distributed in

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the hope that someone had seen her
and could help. Her disappearance was so

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strange and so unlike her that no
one understood what could have happened. Brian

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made an appeal to the public about
his wife, saying their sons were missing

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her terribly. He said, I
would like to appeal to Anne to get

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in touch with their children. We're
coping okay, but the boys are desperate

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to hear from her. It appeared
that Brian and his children were hoping that

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Anne would return home and that there
would be some reasonable nation for why she

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had disappeared. Over the next several
months, there would continue to be some

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hope that Anne would return. However, as the weeks then months passed,

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this was a harder and harder to
believe. There were no known reasons why

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Anne would leave, and particularly why
she wouldn't tell her children where she was.

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Her family and the police were increasingly
worried about her safety. By October

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nineteen ninety seven, Anne had still
not returned, and it was this month

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that there was a new development in
the case. Regional and national newspapers reported

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that there had been two arrests made. The articles described how the arrests had

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taken place at Chevening Close in Stoke, Gifford. The arrests had been made

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at the Myring family home. Brian
Myring and a woman had been arrested in

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relation to the murder of Anne my
Ring. This shocking development was unexpected and

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raised many questions for those that heard
about it. One of the main questions

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was who was the woman who'd been
arrested with him at his home. This

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would become clear and the woman's name
would be revealed as Teresa Kempster, who

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was thirty eight at the time.
It would turn out that Brian and Teresa

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were having an affair and that they
had been for the previous two years.

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Teresa was also married, and the
pair had met at the Cubs and Scouts

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group that the couple were involved with. This relationship was apparently quite well known

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to other people who knew the couple, and Anne had found out about it.

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However, she seemed to be one
of the last people to know about

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this affair. It was reported that
despite knowing about the affair, Anne was

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happy to stay with Brian and wanted
to make it work. Anne's mother stated

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that Anne idolised Brian. The shocking
news that Brian had been arrested and that

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he was also having a long term
affair during his marriage to Anne was sensational

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and articles began to come out about
the evidence that the police had against Brian

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and even possibly Theresa Kempster. Police
soon let Theresa go without any charges,

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but they did formally charge Brian Myering
with the murder of his wife. Many

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people speculated about what the evidence exactly
was to charge Brian, and the fact

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they hadn't yet found Anne was something
else concerning about the case. If Brian

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had murdered her, where was her
body? Nobody. Murder trials are particularly

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difficult to take to trial due to
the lack of evidence to prove anything either

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way. The police, however,
had decided to take this case to trial,

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and it would turn out that the
evidence was entirely circumstantial. Brian Iiring's

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trial did not end up taking place
until November of nineteen ninety nine, and

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in the time in between, Anne's
family were trying to get to grips with

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the news. That police believe that
Anne had been murdered, and most importantly,

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they didn't know where her body was. In December of nineteen ninety seven,

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Anne's family and the Avon and Somerset
Police spoke to the press. Anne's

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sister Jane told the grief that they
were feeling at not being able to put

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her to rest or knowing what happened. She said. On Christmas Day,

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it will be six months since her
disappearance. The family have accepted that she's

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no longer alive and that the police
are searching for her body. At this

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most difficult time of year, we're
looking for any news that will locate Anne's

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body. It will help us greatly
if she's brought home to her family so

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that she can be properly laid to
rest. We can't grieve as we have

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nothing to grieve over. Yet this
feeling of limbo must have been even more

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excruciating given that they believed that Anne
had been murdered. Avon and Somerset Police

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spokespersons said at this time of year, families come together and its common practice

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for them to go out on walks
in the countryside or beauty spots. We're

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asking people while They do this to
keep an eye out for clothing scattered about

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in beauty spots, or possibly an
abandoned suitcase. By this point, Brian

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Myern had been released on bail pending
his trial for her murder, and police

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were hopeful, but by the time
that that came around, they may have

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located Anne's body. During the summer
of nineteen ninety eight, police searched several

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areas to find her. They knew
that she was a keen rambler and that

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she enjoyed the countryside, and so
they began to focus their attention on these

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kinds of areas. They searched the
area of tog Hill, which is a

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picnic spot around fifteen miles away from
Anne's home. They searched the area for

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around four days before moving the search
to Woodland in the area of Wick,

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less than two miles from tog Hill. Many of her favorite walking areas were

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checked, and at the end of
July it was confirmed that an area close

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to the Gloucestershire Force Area was going
to be searched. Shortly after this announcement

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of further searches, Brian Myering was
in court at a hearing he pleaded not

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guilty to the charges of murder.
His trial eventually took place in nineteen ninety

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nine, and the prosecution set a
case out where Brian Myering intentionally set out

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to murder his wife due to his
obsessive affair with Teresa Kempster. They alleged

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that he wanted to get Anne out
of the way so he could pursue this

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relationship, and this was a substantial
motive to murder her. The defense stated

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that they had no evidence that Brian
had killed his wife or that she was

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even deceased. More insight into Anna
Brian's relationship was gained at the trial,

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with Brian stating that Anne had been
siphoning money out of their joint account before

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she went missing and that they had
been arguing about this. Brian stated that

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Anna had taken around fifteen thousand pounds
out of their account and that she had

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made a withdrawal of around nine hundred
and twenty pounds before she went missing.

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The prosecution, however, led by
Paul Chad QC, said this was untrue

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and actually CCTV footage showed that this
transaction was made by Brian Myering himself.

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Paul Chad explained it became clear to
the police that the only person to benefit

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from her disappearance was her husband.
This was a carefully schemed murder of his

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wife. He also stated that myering
had got to the end of his tether

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when it appeared that Anne was not
just leaving him, and stated that they

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had gone for a drive on the
evening of the twenty fifth of January and

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they argued out of earshot of their
youngest son. He said that the argument

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had not been resolved and that Anne
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During the trial, the jury also
heard that Brian had been in possession of

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Anne's bank card. Teresa Kempster took
to the stand to give some insight into

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their relationship. She said that her
husband had found out about the affair and

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had attacked Brian when he saw them
in the car together, and had also

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found out after seeing them meet at
a service station. Reportedly, Brian had

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denied having an affair when approached by
police initially, then admitted to it later

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on. The prosecution set out that
they had checked on hospitals and solicitors and

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all lines of inquiry exhausted when trying
to locate her, suggesting that it was

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obvious that she was no longer alive. They also explained that Anne had left

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too many of her belongings behind,
including a treasured family heirloom, and that

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she had booked a holiday and a
hair appointment, implying that she hadn't planned

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to leave. On his part,
Brian Myering denied all the allegations against him.

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He explained that he had noticed that
Anne was taking money out of the

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account, and he had confronted her
about it on the car journey, saying

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he believed she'd taken it out.
When asked by Antony Arledge, QC defending

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did you kill your wife in the
course of that journey or at any other

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time, Brian replied no. When
he was questioned about why he'd delayed in

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telling authorities that she was missing,
he said that he didn't want to worry

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her mom about her disappearance, as
she was having an operation and he was

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convinced that she had just left him. Towards the end of the trial,

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the prosecution made some admissions to the
defense, saying that Brian Myering had co

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operated fully with analysis of his bank
accounts and forensic examination of his clothing and

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vehicles. They also stated that four
of Anne's bank cards had never been found,

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and searches had found no trace of
Anne. There was no forensic link

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to Brian, and Anne had not
been recovered, and so there was no

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concrete evidence that she was dead.
The case against Brian was circumstantial and it

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was unclear how it was going to
conclude. The jury took the case and

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within just two and a half hours
they were back with a verdict. They

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found Brian Myering not guilty of the
murder of his wife. Brian was visibly

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relieved at the news and was pleased
with the result. Outside court, Detective

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Chief Inspector Jeff Anderson said the case
was still open. He said, this

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has been a difficult investigation and unusual
circumstances, and as far as we're concerned,

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and my Ring is dead, we
would welcome any information which might lead

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to the whereabouts of her body so
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The outcome of the trial was disappointing
for the police, who had taken

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this as far as they could with
the circumstantial evidence that they had. It

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must have also been very distressing and
confusing for Anne's family. Anne's brother Mark

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told the press in the days after
the acquittal. Listening to the evidence has

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been hell. At times it has
been too much to bear. They not

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guilty verdict means the story is not
closed. He also stated that the family

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had known for a while that Anne
was dead, but that they now needed

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to find her body to find closure. Anne's sons must have also been going

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through the worst time of their lives, given that their mother was missing and

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their father could have gone to prison
for her murder. David and Stephen,

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as well as their father, spoke
to the Independent newspaper in two thousand,

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three years after Anne's disappearance and a
year after Brian was acquitted. Brian gave

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the paper a statement which read,
I was very surprised I was arrested as

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there was no forensic evidence at all, no history of violence, and there

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had been several sightings of Anne around
the country, with three in an area

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that Anne knew, although myself,
David or Stephen had not been told of

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any sighting. I suppose the worst
thing is the two years I spent away

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from my family on bail. David
was only fifteen going into his final year

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at school, and for some four
months I was not allowed to see or

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talk to him. This initial period
was very traumatic for myself and for David.

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David and Stephen stated that they do
not believe that their father had anything

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to do with their mother's death,
and described Brian saying, we couldn't imagine

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anyone like him ever doing something like
that. He's never hit us, never

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shown any violence towards anybody. Really, He's really nice. I just don't

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think it's feasible. Stephen is equally
adamant. I'm the best person at winding

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anybody up, and Dad has never
ever raised a hand. He's quite mellow.

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Actually, he's got a good sense
of humor as well. It never,

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ever, not once entered my mind
at all. David, Stephen,

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and Brian explained that they believe that
Anne is still alive and don't accept that

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she has died. They hoped that
they would see her again and that she

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would get in contact. David stated, we're all encouraging each other to try

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and do as much as we can
to try and find her. I'm not

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bothered about her reasons. I'm more
concerned about her making contact. If she

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came back, I wouldn't even ask
where she'd been. I would just be

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crying. I'd be so happy.
I would rather take the positive approach.

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There is lack of evidence both ways, but I'd rather be more positive.

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I'm always going to believe that she's
alive. There has never been any significant

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evidence as far as I'm concerned,
to say that she's dead. Brian also

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said, I would like to say
to Anne, come back. I know

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it means facing up to a lot, but the boys miss you a lot.

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Although we shall never be together,
the first twenty years of marriage was

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very good and I'd like to know
that you're all right. Stephen explained that

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he's gutted by his mother's disappearance and
that he still wears her gold necklace,

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and since she disappeared, he had
had a daughter and he'd given her the

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middle name of Anne. He said, with my job, I'm out on

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the road on my own, driving
about, and you've got to think about

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something. Unfortunately, it always seems
to be about my mum and where she

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can be. I do still cry
about it. There's no doubt that Anne's

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disappear had an incomprehensible effect on her
sons and her whole family. But when

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Anne's mother Gwendolen was spoken to for
the same article, she had a different

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outlook on her daughter's disappearance. She
believed that Anne had been murdered and that

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she was not just going to walk
back through the door. She stated David

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was the apple of her eye.
She would never have walked out on those

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boys. Ever. She'll never come
back. She's dead and that's all there

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is to it. I had cancer
five and a half years ago, and

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there's no way my daughter would not
have looked after me. We were like

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that. She was my best friend, not just a daughter. She would

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come and take me out once a
week, sometimes twice. She idolized her

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husband. I'm not very happy about
them wanting their mother to come home when

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it's absolutely impossible. I think it's
very sad. She was my daughter,

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she was my flesh and blood.
Gwendolen by this point in two thousand,

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had lost her voice box due to
the spread of cancer and had to use

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a voice and hancer. She was
described as being visibly angry about the situation

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and its stated in the article that
the two sides of the family now no

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longer speak. This is such a
sad story, and the fact that Anne's

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close family has been ripped apart by
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the trial and then acquittal of Brian. In the years following the trial,

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David and Stephen continue trying to locate
their mother, with a poster campaign in

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areas where Anne had links to and
a feature in Big Issue magazine to appeal

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for her return. At the time, Detective Chief Inspector Jeff Anderson from Avon

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and Somerset Police, who was leading
the investigation, stated that they believe that

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Anne was dead. Told the Independent
newspaper does a woman leave home leaving nine

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single shoes, all her makeup,
her jewelry and all her money. Her

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mother was ill with cancer and she
was very supportive of that. She was

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very supportive of her children. There
was a huge amount of circumstantial evidence that

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suggests this woman had not left that
home on her own volition, carrying two

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suitcases with all her belongings. Police
have remained convinced that Anne is dead and

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that they were looking for her remains. However, these have never been located.

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It would appear that her bank accounts
remained untouched. However, seven years

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after she disappeared, a sighting of
someone fitting her description in Leeds was reported.

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David and Stephen ups the poster campaign
in the area. However, this

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did not locate Anne or figure out
if this sighting was her. While doing

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the podcast, all of the cases
are tinged with sadness as they're all unsolved,

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but sometimes some cases really affect me. This is one of them,

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and I think it's because of the
damage that has been done to Anne's family

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as a result of her disappearance,
Brian's trial and later acquittal. Her family

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seems to have been broken beyond repair
by it, and while there hasn't been

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many updates and articles since two thousand, it's clear that the opinions and thoughts

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of all the family members are very
different. David and Stephen want to remain

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hopeful that their mother did just walk
away and was alive. However, police

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and anne side of the family believe
that she is no longer alive. The

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questions that remain are numerous. What
happened to Anne that night? Where did

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she go, why did she not
take any useful belongings with her, Why

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has she not touched her bank accounts, and why did she leave her car?

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All of this is unclear, and
I completely understand and her son's desire

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to remain hopeful the facts We do
know, though, is that Brian Myering

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has been acquitted of all charges,
and that police still maintain that Anne is

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dead and that they are on the
recovery for her remains. Since her disappearance,

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nothing has been found to pinpoint where
she is or what happened to her.

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Anne is still missing, and her
disappearance and potential murder is still unsolved.

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Without her body, there does appear
to be a little chance of any

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progress being made, or without any
more sightings, her location will be tricky

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to figure out. I really do
hope that her family can finally get some

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closure and that soon there will be
some information or evidence forthcoming. They deserve

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answers, and David and Stephen deserve
to know what happened to their mom.

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If you know anything about the disappearance
of Anne my Ring in nineteen ninety seven,

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then please contact Avon and Somerset Police
at one oh one. After the

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release of the episode, David got
in touch with me about it. I

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always appreciate when this happens, and
I want to thank David for taking the

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time to speak to me. In
all of my episodes, I do say

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that I'm only using known facts that
have been reported in the media, and

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so I know that there's always more
to everyone's story, and so it's always

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good to get firsthand information from those
close to the person or to the case.

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David wanted to add some more detail
about the events leading up to his

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mum's disappearance, and wanted to explain
that Anne leaving the evening before was not

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the only possible scenario and that it
was just as if not more, likely

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that she left the next morning.
David explained that it has been difficult to

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get the right kind of attention for
his mother's case, and this is something

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which is been echoed by other families
that I have spoken to. David explained

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that he last saw his mum on
the evening of the twenty fifth of June,

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and that this was before she went
on a drive with his dad.

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Much was made of this car journey
that night, particularly at trial. However,

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David told me that nobody actually saw
either of them return, as he

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had already gone to bed and his
brother Steve had come home late that evening.

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He explained that his brother was always
the first to get up and leave

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the house and that this was the
same that morning. David said his dad

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was the next to leave, and
before he left, he told David not

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to disturb his mother as she wasn't
feeling well and was still in the bedroom.

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His dad then took the car and
went to work, saying that he

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had taken the car as he didn't
want and to take it if she were

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to leave him. David said that
he then just went to school as usual.

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He explained to me that this is
the moment that we're forever hard on

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him, as if he had made
the decision to check on his mum that

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morning, a lot of things could
be resolved by now. He explained that

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because he didn't check on her that
morning, it was completely feasible that his

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mum was in the bedroom at that
time, and that she then had all

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morning to leave the home before David
returned for his lunch later in the day.

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This, of course, would affect
the known timeline for Anne's disappearance.

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David also wanted to address the fact
that there hadn't been any sightings of Anne

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in the area at the time.
He explained that as Anne hadn't been reported

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for twenty four hours, he wouldn't
necessarily expect that anybody would have noticed or

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remembered her. He referred to bus
drivers, taxi drivers, and those at

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Bristol Parkway train station, saying that
after this time had elapsed, they may

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not necessarily remember her. He also
added more detail, saying that you can

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exit Chavening Close where Anne and the
family lived, on foot and be out

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of view within thirty seconds, suggesting
that Anne could easily have left the family

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home and have been out of sight
of people that would recognize her very quickly.

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Therefore, it would make sense that
there were no sightings of her in

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the area that she lived. The
last thing that David wanted to mention was

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that there were some indications that there
may have been something bothering Anne in the

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lead up to her disappearance. He
explained that her colleagues at Hewlett Packard had

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reported that Anne had been snappy at
work on the twenty fifth, and that

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this had been out of character for
her. This is of course important information,

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given that this was unusual for her, and anything out of the ordinary

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is always necessary to look into.
It's clear that Anne's disappearance is certainly not

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straightforward, and there are many things
that are unknown, but also many situations

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that could be plausible. David expressed
his sadness about his mother's disappearance and how

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it affected them as a family.
He explained that they were still young at

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the time and that he and his
brother never felt fully supported. He said

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that after she disappeared, many people
that they knew turned their backs on them,

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including many of his mother's friends.
He stated that he knew this is

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not what his mother would have wanted
and that she would have been extremely upset

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about what has happened. Since this
is the sad reality of what is left

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behind when something like this happens,
and I really appreciate David sharing this with

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me, as it isn't something that
is often discussed when speaking about missing people.

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Anne's family have been left without the
answers they need, but also without

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the support that they also needed over
these years. The heartbreak of their mother

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being missing and also losing the life
they knew and many people close to them

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must have been devastating, and I
do really feel for David and his brother

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Steve. This is the reason I
created the podcast, and speaking to families

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of missing people is so important to
me. I say it all the time

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in my episodes, but families deserve
to know what happened to their loved ones,

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and there are so many people impacted
by these cases. I again want

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to thank David for speaking to me
and clarifying some of these points about his

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mum's disappearance. I hope the family
do eventually get answers to what happened to

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Anne, but if you do know
anything, then please contact police on one

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oh one and let them know the
information that you have. Thank you for

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