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Welcome to the Teachers Need Teachers Podcasts, the podcast for teachers who don't want

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to just survive teaching, but actually
thrive. It has been a while since

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I last posted because I got sick, And what's kind of interesting is that

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I posted my last episode about how
to prepare for substitute days, and then

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I got sick and I used all
that information because I was out for a

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while. So if you haven't checked
out that episode, be sure to do

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that. And I'm really excited about
today's episode because I've been reading a lot

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of information lately about students cheating with
AI, and I definitely wanted to address

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it. Even though it's only banned
about a year. Since chat GPT was

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unveiled to the public, AI has
permeated pretty much every aspect of our lives.

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It has been useful in so many
different ways than people could have even

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dreamed of, but it's also become
quite a headache in the education space.

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It seems like people are on either
side of the fence when it comes to

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AI. They're all in and super
excited about using it and their teaching in

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their classrooms, or they're assembling teams
to try to find out ways to battle

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this technology in education. I absolutely
love AI and specifically things like chat GPT,

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but I do acknowledge that students aren't
using it effectively and are frankly being

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pretty lazy about it. They're just
asking AI to write their assignments for them

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and just pass it off as their
own, which ill So in this episode,

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I'm discussing five hacks that will make
it harder for your students to cheat

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in the age of AI. Stay
until the end because I have a bonus

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tip that's going to work for a
lot of you, and you don't want

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to miss out. The first step
to making your assignments more cheap proof is

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to get a baseline of your student's
work. I would suggest that you do

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some kind of paper and pencil assignment
to make sure that it's authentic, and

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I would make it really low stakes. In fact, I wouldn't even grade

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this initial assignment. You would be
more along the lines of show me what

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your teacher taught you last year,
show me what you know in my particular

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subject, and just make it so
that the students don't necessarily feel compelled to

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cheat in any way and they don't
freeze, and they'll actually show you what

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it is that they can do.
You could even make it a group assignment

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if that makes it easier for the
students, But I would suggest giving them

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some easier material, something that they
should have already learned by the time that

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they've got to you, and then
have them work through that and write out

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their answers, whether it's math or
science or any subject, just basically what

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is it that they're coming to you
with and so that they can give you

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authentic work. And if you teach
a subject where students are going to have

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to site sources or anything like that, go ahead and ask them to do

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that as well. Now, one
of the reasons why I like to do

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this is because the different programs that
use AI, like chat, GPT or

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Bard, they have their own voice. They have a particular syntax and cadence

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that after a while of using them, you kind of get used to the

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way that it sounds. So having
a baseline of how they actually write or

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how they actually work their thought process, you can compare something that they in

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that maybe doesn't seem like it's really
there, You can compare it to the

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baseline, and that can be further
proof that they probably cheated on it.

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It's actually pretty interesting to see how
each AI functions. For example, what

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chat GPT, when you ask them
a question, they will repeat the question

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in the introductory sentence, and then
they'll give you the answer, and then

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they'll have a conclusion, and a
lot of times Google Bard, they like

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to give you things in bullet points, and they also kind of summarize what

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you just said, and they don't
necessarily provide you with as much of a

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conclusion, but just the way,
it's kind of like having a conversation with

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different people, you can just kind
of tell, or even like if you

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text someone, you can tell just
by the way that they text who they

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are. So next, you're definitely
going to have to tweak some of your

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assignments and create more specifications and requirements. So this is really important because the

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AI isn't capable of fulfilling all of
the requirements for your assignment, especially if

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you're picky. So what this could
look like is requiring a certain format for

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your submission. For example, my
PLC, we teach seventh grade English,

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we require what we call the race
paragraph format, and so race is R

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for rey, A is answer,
C is site, and E is explained.

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Although it's more like racist is because
I do cite and explain twice,

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plus I require a summarizing sentence.
So if a student goes into chat GPT

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or Bard and asks it to write
a race paragraph about a particular subject,

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most of the time when those paragraphs
come back, it's not in the proper

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format. It doesn't fulfill my particular
requirements. For example, when they cite

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their evidence for me, they have
to use direct quotes. Also for their

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explanations, they need two sentences,
and those sentences cannot paraphrase or summarize the

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quotes. Sometimes I even require that
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And so the more specific that you
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in which you put on the rubric, the harder it is for them to

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use AI to cheat. For math, you could do something that require that

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they divide their work up into certain
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Maybe they have a more metacognitive area
where they have to write out their thinking

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process on that and it has to
be like on a certain area of the

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page. It just makes it a
little bit harder for them to do copying

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and pasting. And I would definitely
deduct points from any deviation from your format,

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so that students learn that they have
to do it precisely and in this

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way, and they're going to find
that it's actually more work for them to

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use AI to help them with the
assignment than to just figure it out on

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their own. It's gotten to the
point where when I'm using AI to create

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multiple choice quizzes, it can't even
give me the exact format that I need

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in order to import it into my
learning management system, and so I still

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have to go in and tweak some
things. It's also given me incorrect multiple

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choice answers when I've asked it about
a particular story, and so you still

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have to go back and check your
work to make sure that the AI is

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correct. And I've had even students
submit assignments using AI. The quotes that

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they use in there didn't even exist
in the story, and so everyone pretty

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much has to be careful when they're
using it because AI isn't full proof.

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Something that I would also consider is
your revision, redo retake policy. Now

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there's going to be a subset of
kids who are going to cheat regardless of

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what your policy is because they just
don't want to do the work. They're

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just lazy, they don't want to
do the work. But at the same

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time, they don't want to be
hassled by their parents because they have an

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F in your class, So they're
going to use AI to cheat. But

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then there's also those students who because
they want to go to a higher level

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college or university and grades really matter
for them because of that, they are

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cheating so that they don't get a
bad grade in your class. And so

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sometimes if you have a really strict
policy where you don't allow revisions or any

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kind of retakes, you're more likely
to get students who are going to cheat.

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The next thing that you can do
that will definitely forward any attempts to

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just copy and paste from AI is
to require and proof. So what this

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would look like for a writing assignment
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the assignments. And I know it
doesn't apply to every situation, but if

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you can make it apply to writing
assignments specifically, you're going to find that

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students are going to be less likely
to cheat if you do this. So

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one thing that you could do is
create a minimum number of citations, say

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five to ten per assignment, and
then I would ask students for screenshots of

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the sources. So let's say that
they had to read a nonfiction article and

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then they had to do some kind
of write up about it, and they

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would have to include a quote from
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to do is not only quote it, but also screenshot it. That way,

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you know for sure that they know
where that quote is in the article

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and that they didn't just pull it
from AI. And then if you do

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allow them to paraphrase the evidence,
they still need to include a screenshot of

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the actual quote. And here's why
I took a class for my own professional

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development, and I decided that I
was going to see if I could use

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AI to help me with my assignments
and what that would look like and what

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would happen, because honestly, I
was just curious, not that I needed

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the help because I am an English
teacher, but I just wanted to see

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what it could do. I have
to tell you that in many ways,

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it kind of sucked. So something
that I tried doing was copying a chapter

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from the textbook and pasting it into
the AI and then asking it to pull

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quotes to support a certain claim.
Something that I like to do is the

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double check and find where that quote
is in the text. And I would

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go back and I couldn't find that
quote in the text. I would do

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a control F and search specific words
in the quote that it gave me,

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and it didn't exist. So then
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it for me. So then I
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find that particular quote that it was
pulling from, and it was just the

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same amount of work as if I
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it took longer. I've also found
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things. So if you're asking students
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you're asking them to give you the
original citation, then they are less likely

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to cheat because it doesn't do them
any good. It's easier if they just

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go and find the quote themselves,
rather than having chat GPT you write it

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out for them and then have to
go back and find where it lines up

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with the quote. I also asked
various AI programs to give me a list

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of studies that I needed for a
research paper. So I just wanted to

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see if you could give me websites
or scientific studies so that I wouldn't have

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to look it up myself. But
here's what I did. I took the

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ten studies that it gave me,
and I actually search for those. And

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I'm a fairly good googler, So
if I don't find something on the first

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try, I know how to tweak
it so that I can really find what

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it is that I'm looking for.
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of those sources actually existed. It's
like it made up these articles or journals

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or studies. I don't know what
it was, but I couldn't find at

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least half of them. So then
I had to still go to like Google

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scholar and find our goals on my
own. But it's not necessarily the most

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reliable thing. So if you have
something like that where the students have to

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prove to you that something exists,
or that they have to prove where they

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found something, it's going to be
a lot harder for them to cheat.

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So then I mentioned for writing assignments
that they would have to cite sources,

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but this also works for something like
science. So if they're doing elaborator,

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there's a good chance that you're having
them apply something that they learned in the

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textbook. So what you could do
is require them to cite sources from the

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textbook or cite information from the textbook
to back up their claims. What this

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could look like in math is asking
them to show their work and again to

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be really metacognitive in terms of putting
out their thought process of Okay, why

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did I do that next step?
Why did I do that other stuff?

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And also properly labeling it. You
could also incentivize them not cheating by allowing

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them to get full points if they
do test corrections or if they go back

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and fix certain answers, but they
have to explain where their faulty thinking was,

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and then they could still get full
points, or at least they could

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earn back some of the points that
they lost. If students are struggling in

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your class and they're doing poorly on
the homework, and then they can go

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back and fix it by just telling
you what it is that they got wrong,

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then they're less likely to cheat because
you're letting them take risks and you're

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encouraging that learning process for them.
You know, in extreme cases of cheating

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and math, something else that you
could consider doing, which could seem like

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a little more work, is to
do an oral exam, So you could

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give kids the types of questions that
you're going to ask them ahead of time,

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let's say like ten to twenty questions, and then on the day of

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their oral exam they pull out a
question from a JAR and that's someone that

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they're going to have to work out
in front of you and again be metacognitive

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and think out loud, and their
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that one question. I mean,
even if you gave them the questions ahead

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of time, if they use AI
to help them with that, they're not

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really going to do so well in
person on that exam. You can figure

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out who needs reteaching or some remediation, and then you can help them catch

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up later on. Now this next
part will be a little bit controversial,

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but you can kind of take the
wind out of your student sales by actually

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requiring them to use AI. I
mean, if you can't beat them,

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join them. And what's great about
this is that you can actually show them

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the limitations of AI so that they
are less likely to depend on it.

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So, for example, you could
do a before and after assignment, so

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students have to write out their assignment. Let's say in class paper and pencil.

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You give them a prompt and they
just have to write it out and

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then they have to go in and
type that into the AI and ask for

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feedback. All the programs will give
them feedback on their writing, and then

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they have to revise their writing based
on that feedback. And I would add

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the additional step of having them highlight
what it is that they fix. So

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if they fix sentence structure or grammar
or whatever it is that they fix that

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chat GPT told them to do,
they have to actually highlight that. So

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again, yes they could copy and
paste it being rewritten in AI, but

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they have to take that extra step
of going through it anyway to highlight where

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it was fixed. And of course
I would ask for screenshots of all of

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the steps to prove that they actually
started out on their own, they went

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to chat GPT, they read the
feedback, and they revised it. Another

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fun assignment, maybe if you teach
science or social studies is to have them

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ask AI for information. Maybe you
can give them certain questions that they're going

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to ask the AI, and then
they have to fact check the answers that

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they get. That could really turn
it into a great conversation because they'll see

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that AI is wrong a lot of
times, and like I did with that

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one class that I was taking,
you can have them ask the AI for

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ten sources for a research paper,
just ten sources for something in general,

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and then they could go and look
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would those actually be something that I
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even exist in math? You could
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learned before and have them ask chat
GPT or Bart or any other AI to

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teach it to them, and then
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to see just how well the AI
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could have a discussion about that,
like how did it teach you how to

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solve this? What types of examples
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learn this concept? And then you
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But it's a really good learning experience
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can and cannot do and that it's
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teacher or for them, and they're
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these types of assignments where they have
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like a student in your class,
what would compel them to cheat, but

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would compel them to use the AI
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do that. So again, if
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have my students ask the AI to
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and then have a discussion with each
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race paragraph. Adding these requirements where
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they're still learning along the way.
They're learning during the process so that they

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can see what it is not only
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they are validating the information that's coming
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or whatever it is that you want
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mean, I have to tell you
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for multiple choice questions and things like
that, a lot of the answers were

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wrong, and you might be telling
me that my prompt isn't good or that

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I'm using it incorrectly. But if
I'm using it incorrectly and I like to

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use AI, you can just imagine
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finally, I think it would be
time well spent if you had an honest

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conversation with your students about how AI
is it going to replace them or they're

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thinking Now, you want to make
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of a sympathetic place. I mean, people have been cheating on assignments for

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ever. They've just gotten more sophisticated
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kids sitting outside of their lockers copying
each other's work, or hiding in the

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bathroom copying each other's work. And
then when they had cell phone cameras,

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they were taking pictures and sending it
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screenshots on their iPads. I mean, the kids have just gotten really savvy

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in terms of how they cheat.
But just remember they've always cheated, So

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we don't want this to be a
lecture about how they shouldn't cheat or use

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AI to cheat. That's not the
point. And then you're just going to

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tune you out if you come at
it from that angle. You need to

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know that students are willing to die
on this hill in terms of using AI

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as a tool, and no matter
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if they want to use it,
they're going to use it. So let's

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try to come at it from a
different way. Let's communicate to them that

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the students still need to learn the
material and it's really important for them,

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especially if they're going to have a
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If they didn't learn the material,
frankly, they're going to look dumb.

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I mean, they know what it's
like to be in a group and

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not know the material. They didn't
do the work, and they're just sitting

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there while everyone else is frustrated with
them. If they rely on the AI

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to always do their homework for them
or their assignments, they're not going to

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learn. AI can't build a better
body for us in a gym anymore then

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it can build our brains. So
our brains should be doing the heavy lifting

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and not the AI. The AI
should absolutely be a tool that we could

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all use. The way that I
like to use AI honestly is to use

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it as a launching point to give
me ideas, to help me get unstuck,

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to help me phrase something when it's
coming out pretty ugly and clunky,

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and so I put down that ugly, clunky sentence and it just kind of

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cleans it up for me. I
feel like students should want their authentic voices

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to be heard, and that what
they present to you as a student should

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be the best that they have.
It should be this is the best that

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I can do. Take it or
leave it. I'm willing to improve it

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and make it better if you help
me. But this is really what I

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know. I just feel like as
students, as they're getting older, they

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have their right and the responsibility to
make sure that we know who they are

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and that we know what they're capable
of doing, and not try to hide

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behind a robot something along those lines
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Because I've told my students how much
I do like AI. I've written

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articles for them to analyze and rate
and answer questions and annotate with the help

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of AI, and I'm really open
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you come from more of a hey, this is a really cool tool,

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and I think you can help them
see how using it to cheat is not

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going to help them in the long
run. Now, as promised, my

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bonus tip is to use a lockdown
browser. Now, your school or district

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will probably have to purchase this,
but this is something that is being used

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by California and when it gives its
standardized testing every year, and basically it

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locks down the student's device, whether
it's an iPad or if it's a tablet,

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or if it's a computer, it
locks it down so that they can't

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go to any other tab or window
or app or program or anything. It

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literally locks them into that exam.
So if you have a lot of cheating

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when it comes to online exams and
kids are using AI or just using study

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guides or whatever, then purchasing a
lockdown browser is really going to help curb

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that. Now, if you haven't
played with AI yet but you want to,

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and you don't know where to start, then I would definitely suggest checking

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out episode one ten or I do
give you some prompts and also show you

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how to better craft your prompts when
you're asking AI to do things for you.

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And so go ahead and check that
out so that you can kind of

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start to play with it and get
an understanding of how it works. Thanks

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for hanging out today with me,
and I will see you next time.
