Did you j have sex with on Saturday morning? Someone lives in my building
and comes over sometimes so handy. Where it was? Hi, guys,
and welcome to this week's episode on the Latch podcast. Today it's me your
host JP Longland. Yes, Sue's Beg Beg Beg energy season for she is
coming. Yeah, last episode and she suddenly comes up with a bit just
in time, finally given energy because I've got two weeks left yea of school.
She wants a difficult Yes. Who sorry, I just did your bit.
There's the black game. She's here barely to me at guy pusy.
I am also back. Hi, Where have you been? Have you been
somewhere? I was in Italy just now. The pictures were gorge thank you
um. And I was in Glastonbury before that. How was Glastonbury? Oh
my god? It was so much fun any t. I had a lot
of fun. I was in the hospitality area with glamping. Yeah, no,
I was. I had lovely you know. I was in the EE
tent with Tilda Swinton just sort of having prosecco and cash. It was so
cash and weird, like she was just sitting there like dripping in channel and
I'm like, why are you here? I know why I'm here, and
I'm cheap and broke, so you tell me there's free pizza. I will
ignore the music that's going on. But like, you're an Oscar winning actress.
But what's she liked because she's she looks so Ethereal yeah she did,
she was, she looked at did It was almost like you were like,
I'm not sure if you told me, but she was never here all along.
Yeah, I'd be like, I guess someone was like, no,
she's in La right now. I'd be like, oh, yeah, sure,
it's like Petronus or something. A mirrage has a mirage. Um.
So, yeah, I had a lot of fun. I stayed in this
little Wendy house. Oh yeah, I didn't I hear a story about that.
I had some fun in a little Wendy house. It wasn't my Wendy
House. Someone else's Wendy house. Someone in the back doors of those Wendy
house blew off. No. No, non penetrative sex is nevertheless difficult in
the Wendy House, really difficult. It was like, yeah, um,
it was like five foot four the Wendy House. Wendy House is like a
little shed for kids. But that's where we all slept in these posh little
Wendy houses. Um. So I saw Lizzo and she was amazing so good.
I saw Miley. I was dancing next to Miley at three o'clock in
the morning at the glade next to Bit with the Faithless. But she had
like a bucket hat arm and I couldn't like be like Cyrus because I know
she'd be like, no, of course, Pip like when Lindsay Lohan was
like when she got back accident weirdly. Oh god, oh no, no,
absolutely not. I am Hannah more Tanner. Yeah, so Minley ash
oh, Darling, Darling. The Killers was amazing. They brought perpet shop
boys on and that was really fun. Yea pride, it was. I
had a really really fun time. Did you see Kylie? I don't like
Kylie? You know, my god, you know I'm not going on.
I should have dragged you probably because that's one of the things that actually people's
that's one of the things that people have come up to me and said,
I cannot believe guys had that about Kylie. It turned my stomach the old
Pixie lot. It's accurate, you know, I always Kylie being like I
got a new pa, I got a new attitude like you is an absolute
bart. No, it is terrible. I'm saying that she's mediocre as is.
Wow anyway anywhere, Congratulations, Tokali is now number fucking one with her
step time CD. We do stand here? Oh she dropped another one?
Didn't know? Yeah, always on the pulse step. Gay rathmumps out in
full fourth. Ye, I've been very well. Thank you very good,
David. How are you? Where have you been good? I'm good.
I've been gathering my energy up. Yeah, you know, any dick of
course, you know now I've got a little bit more free time in my
hands, in your hand, not coming to record the podcast that as well?
Yeah, anyone's I would taste like and wow, A lady does not
tell but I have been seeing someone and is it your cousin? Wow?
Why would he? Is the writer in from episode one circle? No,
of course not who is You don't have to tell us everything, but you
have to tell us something classified information, all of it. I mean,
after the podcast, I'll tell you give us like a tiny snippet. What's
like, how long have you been dating? I mean it's still very much
early days. But like a couple of weeks again, very much early days.
But we're still getting to know each other. And have you fucked.
I'm enjoying it. No, oh my god, marriage you were ely I
know. Can't wait. I'm John's coming soon. I could feel it.
U M M I n g. Oh that's cute. Hope you well touch
would yeah, definitely, yeah, you better touch words to you. Just
find out I recorded podcast and just dump me. No, I mean only
be listened to it. Actually, that reminds me now I will listen to
his first episode of on the Latch, not last week, the week before
which one, Um, not the Pride one, the one before one.
I don't think I was in it. I was like, okay, that's
probably the best, um, and he said, yeah, I mean he
usually doesn't listen to because he calls it Josh will see propaganda, which isn't
that's true. That's true. That's true. You know I'm out here in
doctrinate in the children. Yes, any but on a series note, So
that was quite Baganda Wow, Phil Sam's impact. Um, yeah, so
that was yeah, So that was quite cute. I'm dead, I'm absolutely
deceased. We'll get into the reason why shortly? Okay, but how are
you jumped thirteen? That's too much. So we're recording this the day after
UK Black Pride, at the end of a wild Pride weekend. Mine started
on Friday with Sleandon. Oh god, oh my god, let me tell
I had not hope. Okay, So so on Friday I got a little
bit as usual messium watching Sleendon and somehow became the start of this random Scottish
floggers what Instagram story? Um at totally Evelyn showered to her that at totally
Evelyn on Instagram. Okay, it's not there anymore, rely, because it
was more than twenty five hours ago. I'd message her and in the morning
I woke up. I was like, was I dancing with a lady in
a green dress last night? And was just like, you're on her Instagram
story, Josh, you can take over from here, because when I saw
the fugging Instagram droy, I was cackling. It started off just kind of
being a bit of a voya. Sorry baby, she would being a bit
of a voya, like, you know, you were having an absolute moment
and he was doing this classic JB long leg. When he does it doesn't
dance. He doesn't like this lean back, like the big lean back,
and he was really in it. He was so invested, and so she
was kind of enjoying and getting in on the action. Then slowly but surely,
she started inserting herself into the drama. God, I thought there was
something else. Yeah it was a p OV. It's what lean would have
wanted, gay right, Um but yeah, so it just it just became
more and more pharsical as the story went on. And it was off cause
one of those where like dot dot dot Yeah exactly. Um, and yeah,
you were just fully in it. You were hugging Seene John singing My
Heart Will go On. Obviously, my boyfriend's somewhere in the background, and
I'm just wrapped around this random woman having a big old moment. It was
I don't remember it didn't didn't you made or hold her that? Oh yeah
yeah yeah, maybe my boyfriend hold her back because I could dance with her.
Oh my god, absolutely as that's absolutely comp deserved. I mean,
did you enjoy it or do you did you feel exploited? I mean he
looked like he loved I know, I really I really enjoyed myself. Seint
John was absolutely incredible. I do you remember seeing John being there quid to
see her? So yeah, it was such a good day. But how
is everybody's Pride weekend? Oh? It was good? It was really you
remember it? I mean I like, I remember the London Pride really well.
I feel like I want to laugh most of it. You have such
pensive pauses. I'm sorry, I'm literally just trying to like drag some memories.
I'm not to remember it. Love marching with Stonewall Pride. That was
really nice, although I did get a little bit panini pressed. You did
via twistably because I saw the day before we were marching that we were in
We were in section K. There's only eleven. I mean there's only only
goes up to l um And so as you can imagine, I was absolutely
prissed because we were, like we said, we weren't setting off. Ton't
know who you are? Thank you? Hi. This is Josh Willisy at
Stonewall Houses. I'm drinking out and drinking but is it? So? Then
it says I obviously like I'd had a few gelerts when I found this out.
So I talked to Twitter and was like, really interesting to know that
there's like over one hundred and fifty companies ahead of it. You know,
an lg ETQ charity that like homes LGBT alness people provide services for domestic violence.
Like it's literally working with dissen manage of people in the city. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Um, and it popped off, oh
of course, and I at London Pride. Yeah, but you have a
definite problem. I mean, like at the end of the day and like
they say, oh, it's rotated. It's oh, it's rotated, it's
rotated. We'll let me tell you what. It's not rotated for everyone,
because I've marched in that about four times and I don't I don't remember ever
being in great Also, of course it doesn't rotate. The headline bonds a
la la lahlah. So you know there is something around it is like,
yeah, it's a bit broken now. And I know you can say it's
not all about who's at the fund whatever. That's fair. That's that's that's
a fair comment. However, I do think that LGBT charities and charities that
are working specifically with LGBT people should kind of lead them on three. But
also I think that it's worth, mentioning that gay spaces like the Royal of
Voxhall Tavern could not afford quite high subscription fees to be able to march.
And yeah, I know that they're not a charity, but they are.
They are providing an incredibly valuable service to the LGBTT community in this in this
city. And so for them to be like pown not be able to spend
the several hundred pounds that's required for a business to march in Pride because they
are giving preference to the conglomerates that can give thousands, it's also that is
also unacceptable. There's a huge problem. Absolutely, And everybody who was like
there were some people who are like, you know, it rotates every year.
But I'm like, but that's working off the assumption that like everyone can
afford it every year. Privilege. Yeah, privilege anyway, I guess there's
nap room for everybody. Yeah. But yeah, as I said via Twitter,
you know, it wasn't your favor supermarket that through the first reduced past
apartment. I'm getting it on a T shirt. Hapitalism winds Jesus, I'm
not coming to stores near you of me. Oh my god. Well,
you know, I want to get some men of trash drop sharps. And
that's the one thing I'm really scared actually edit that out copyright copyright. Would
you have it on the front of a jock or would you have it on
the strap back? On the strap on the back, I would say men
are on the front and then on the back trash, because then it makes
your whole look like a trash shoot. I mean, well tr tea babes
if the drop fits garbage just both wow, um you you just had to
lower the quiet even a double on Toendra And one of my favorite things from
IM. I didn't really enjoy Saturday at all. I spelt I spent my
entire Saturday in a queue for what fucking thing. First of all, Tesco,
thanks so much for throwing your money at Pride in London. But also
like ah, the qube went up and down every fucking aisle, every aisle,
pissed off and some love to people in the que they were great.
And then you should have bought things before I did. But you know what
I'm like, I drink a lot of booze. Yeah, I can't possibly
carry that much booze. I'm one man. And then I got out of
the cue for Tesco and Ha's que for the Toilet, and as I was
literally about to piss myself literally, some man grabbed me from behind and was
like, John from that podcast, you're my favorite. I'm trying to pretend
I'm not starstruck right now. I don't know who you are, but you're
my favorite too. You're not my favorite. That was a long way to
humble Brack. I got you, gotta set the same And then the rest
of the day was just a bit like stagnated. I think we spent a
lot of time sat in Soho Square and then I got yelled at on the
and the tube journey home, some random angry woman was just unprovoked, sat
opposite me my boy friend and was like, hadn't spoken to her, hadn't
even made eye contact, and she's limped forward, lit me in the eye,
went He's poisoned. And I was just that was me. I was
just like, what And he's going to who you call him? Fucking poison
And he's like shy and timid at the best of the times. And she's
like yeah, and she's like it's gonna last six months maximum. He's poisoned.
He's poisoned and her mate sat there like, oh my, what are
you doing? That's what he's doing. Absolutely weird. Next tube, this
woman covered head to toe, straight woman, obviously covered in head to toe
in rainbows. I've got my KFC. I mean, quite a good mood.
I'm a little bit tipsy. I'm like, oh, how is your
pride? Babes? She's like, oh, yeah, really gratized that my
whole day looking at game and dicks, Like what a day in soho I
don't know, sat in a toilet at somewhere. She was like, who
doesn't want to I was like, rise, that's quite problematic, right,
yeah, of course. And she's like, no, I don't realize that.
Who doesn't want to look at a game man doctor's dick all day?
Doctor's dick? He apparently was one of them, was a doctor. Now,
guys, really interesting dropped the Pine Street, the hospital, glory hole
somewhere I'm not aware of. It's just a fucking like, a really weird
day that I didn't enjoy fifty six Could you imagine fifty sixteen street glory hole?
Oh my god, my god, straight after the Jagger. No,
you'd have to have a post medication Glory Hull. Yeah, okay, anyway,
so yes, sorry, we were talking about being hate crammed back to
you. I wouldn't know. I wasn't being specifically hate crime, but I
think gaming in general will being objectified. But that's fine. I got groped
at Glastonbury by this woman and she was like, oh, but your assuk
so good in that rumper and I was like, I know it does,
but like if I had done that to you, that would be a not
the conversation, and she was like ha ha, and I'm like like it's
fine, like I'm not angry, like you know, we're dancing and it's
fine, but it's like, just don't don't do it, So don't do
it because it would be like I would be kicked out of this festival.
Yeah if someone saw me doing that to you, because I your ask looks
fun in no sequence, ha um, you look great in that room.
But oh I know, I do, I know? I did, she
say, as she lays down and splexes my legs her legs. No,
I love that rump. I'm gonna wear it everywhere. You should? Did
you you wore one? You wore? I wore the same one yesterday yeah.
Someone said that I looked like a paramedic and I was like, bitch,
And she's like a sexy paramedic and the same womanizes her on the tube.
She loves a doctor. Anyway, did David guy, did you go
to Pride? I didn't go either. Last year was the first time I
went to London Pride. I mean, oh yeah, it was shame being
a Londoner um. But I had a good time. But I just didn't
enjoy it. I don't know why. I there was something about it that
I didn't feel A bit off. Yeah, it felt off, like it
feels like London Pride feels a bit spaced out, like there's two many people
and it's spaced out at the same time. Like I don't know, I
don't I don't know how to describe it. But I just didn't. I
didn't feel it as much as I do when I mean Manchester Pride my first
ever Pride that I went to. Oh, I love it. I love
it. Like did you get a general sense of community? Yeah, up
there, but in London, no, and I can see too much.
I can't really deal. Yeah, And I can see why London Pride is
way down there in like the rankings of the best Pride. I would say
it's all about the march, and then after that, I just feel like
it's just a bit yeah, like everyone's kind of like milling a back.
Yeah, it needs a part like the brain needs end in like Hyde Park
or something. Then it would feel like like that's the difference between Like I
mean, there's lots of difference between London Pride and Black Pride, but that
is one of the biggest I think that's really what they should do. They
should do the parade. You turn right epicted circuits instead of left. Yeah,
you walk down past the Green Park and then you end up in Hyde
Park. That's what we should do. Like a kind of nice secure walled
area is that the people will still end up in Soho but there's not many
people, Like it's just you can't move. And then I said, accused
for toilets. I had to as well. Had to. I had to,
like, you know, when you why am I going to about to
tell you that I pissed myself on the podcast, you know, like when
you just need to release the pressure from your bladder. And I was like
I was wearing some new pants and I like Dick was just flopping up the
cycle little bit brief, but so apparently asos breefs don't fit very well,
and I was I just need to release the pressure, thinking that my little
dripple go in to my pants. I'm gonna have to edit this out right,
and it didn't. It went all into my light dinning shorts. So
I had to refashion my flag as like as the wrong. I pissed myself
and pissed yourself a pride, Yeah, basically that's what I'm saying. Yeah,
good for you. Oh my god, golden shower, it is going
to be going. You're gonna get like, like, send me the shots.
I was just like, honestly, at this sevent at this point,
at this point, take them. However, yesterday UK Black Pride so much
fun what I wanted to go? Yes then why didn't you, darling?
I just didn't feel it again, I really wanted, yeah, I really
wanted when it came to it, I just I just didn't feel it,
like I don't know, just before yeah I went last year. Um,
I mean I feel like pride as for me, it's kind of losing its
touch. Wow, I don't I don't know why I feel that way but
I feel like I don't feel involved, Like I don't feel well, you
won't be fucking involved, you don't turn it off, shut top, but
you're not engaged by it in the same way that it used to be.
Um, I don't know, I don't know what it is, but I
just I just feel like I'm over it, the internalized homophobia. I definitely,
I definitely see what you mean, because like I did not get to
Pride on Saturday because I have kind of been disillusioned with it, and I
went I just went to a friend's house and we all, you know,
we just had a kind of nice gay time and drank and just sort of
fingered each other, fingered each other. No, no, no, no,
there were women there. Um well, and also I don't think of
my friends the misogyny. But so I've definitely but I will like I did
got a black Pride and I thought it was amazing. I really did.
I felt so um welcome and just sort of went to a couple of talks
and I had a drink or two and danced to some really good music,
and I felt that that's how Pride should be. Actually, I think having
that enclosed space where you show up, your check, your que up,
you you're checked on arrival, You get a drink at a bar. There
are several bars, there are several stalls. There's a field with music.
I think that was kind of how pride should be. I loved it.
I thought it was really wonderful. Yeah, it was lovely. Could have
done with a few more bars. I actually always say that been at least
one more bar. I think is either I didn't mind that que as much
because like, everyone's having a nice time, beans in a tesco, thought
all of your prior, isn't this fun? Like I fucking adore yesterday?
It was so good, so everybody I knew, Yah, everyone's having the
best time. I didn't see you, didn't see me, No, you
know me why I had a good time. I saw Josh. I don't
think Josh remember seeing me, but absolutely ages I do remember all of it.
In the park, I saw Raheim as well. Rahem sends his love.
He had to be a bank for the condoms, so it was like,
what the like? You know, I don't use you know, I'm
roaring him positive dripping now, absolutely, Kiley, stop it. There was
a plastic bag in there from for leaking no, no, you could was
for JD Sports, but like you could use it. It was nice to
see him as well. That's cute. Yeah, I mean it was such
a joyful day and it kind of just reminds me. It was like,
yes, this is what I'm here for. Yeah, this is a day
for us to just kind of exist and to celebrate. So I absolutely adored
it, and I do remember all the part it was just the glories.
I don't remember. It's obviously massive hats off to like Lady Phil and Rivers
and to everybody else who was involved that it shout out to everybody. We
had fun. But my favorite part was was Josh Willisy screaming in my face.
Tell me, tell me that one of your best friends. Tell me,
I am in no way need to slowly. I like to play,
Like what can I say? I just needed to hear the words of for
it to feel natural. I think that what really struck me this year.
You know, I wasn't at probably on Saturday, but just kind of watching
on social media and also just being a black point on Sunday. I just
felt there was such a sense of solidarity and an inclusion across the whole community
in a way that I haven't really witnessed before, and I thought that was
really healthy and really kind of galvanizing. I thought that was really I just
really warmed me. It was so so lovely to see so many trans,
so many transflagers. Yeah, so many trans flags, so much so many
trans people on the march and naturally end up Black Pride as well, And
just to see that kind of visibility and ally ship, you know, particularly
after last year what happened on the March, it was so nice to actually
just see people coming together and yeah, that's what we need now more than
ever. So it was just it was really really lovely. And each year
you're just seeing more people like just living their best lives, living in their
most authentic selves. You know, there's so much hate within within the community
at the moment, and just to see that kind of that solidarity was such
a really beautiful thing. It certainly felt a lot more political year in terms
of the amount of different flags withferent parts of the community. We saw people
seem to be a lot more respect full of Pride as of protests as opposed
to as a party. From what I saw, at least from my base
out of my asking a whole square and even even the wonder to it myself.
Yeah, I have a pissy puddle. Yeah, it certainly felt a
lot more aware, I think. I mean, I think generally people are
becoming like, not just over the weekend, people are becoming more aware.
People are calling out ship where it needs to be called out, like I
was when I was at Glastonbury. I might not have mentioned that was at
Glastonbury. What did you say in you? And I was, you know,
hosted anyway roasted? I was, It was very warm, but I
am anyway. I bumped into I was with some friends and they we linked
up with some other friends and then obviously one of them was like, oh
my god, one of my friends is here that you would love, Oh
my god, you'd love him. And I was like, you just mean
he's gay, right, And they were like, no, you'd really get
on with it. You know. What it meant was there's another gay here
too, So at some point you kind of joined us, and there was
definitely there is something their intention, but like we'd hear off. But my
friend was speaking to him first and he she was like, you're having a
nice time, you know, in liking the music. He's like oh my
god, I'm loving it all except for storm Sea. And she was like
why and he's like, oh, he's just so angry. And she was
like, oh, so you're racist and he was like no, and she
was like yeah. She was like you are. He's like, what do
you mean, He's like she's She was like, you are falling in line
with this horrible trope of like black music and aggression and rage, and that's
racist. Tea is tea, I mean, And I to make people call
that out, like even like I friend friends of mine would never have sort
of like stood that pot in that way before my friends, and I think
people are like falling, like they're getting woke, y'all, opening y'all.
And so he left. She's sorry, I hope you actually want to suck
his not after that. No, but like, oh yeah, that was
an absolute fucking momentum, and there was it was a lot of hate online.
Someone like said all you got to do is put in a cup of
tea and it's like, not my cup of tea. That's a bit too.
It was just so many tweets it was actually ridiculous. It's like,
yeah, you stay mad. Did you see that iconic Billy Billy bought talking
about how he wore a dress. Yea, he made people uncomfortable. Good.
I was like, yes, yeah, so hard. He's to take
an up space in working twenty nineteen slash twenty like I am here, I
am queer, and I am here to fucking protest for our motherfucking rites.
You know. Yeah, I really felt that this year in a way that
I hadn't before. And we spoke about this pretty last week. But we
had a curious cat asking us about probably being a part of your protest and
do we feel that people at bare minimum should go and see the parade rather
than pre drinking at home. Um I personally think that if everyone came to
the parade, it would be too busy because the prade is already backed out
with people. Do you think it's something like I feel like if you've never
done it the parade, I feel like you're missing a part of the experience.
Do you go at least one? I feel like it's a real like
for me, I love the attention. Um no, but what I know
shock up? But no, for me, there's something really not not just
attention, it's affirmation. It's like, you know, there's people who are
just lining up and they are cheering, and they are you know, they
are so positive and they're so like, they're so celebratory, and you know,
I've marched with lots of young people and just to see the look on
their faces, it's just so nice to see that they'd been held up in
so many families this weekend. Actually, in particularly yesterday, you could back
prade that there was there was this like families for days. It was like
icon it It's sweet. And my views on the seeing the parade, and
I've seen parade many many times. I didn't see it this year because I
was hungover from Selene to you're busy wetting yourself. I was trying to find
a dry pair of pants that could fit my dick in them, and I
thought, you know what I mean, it's just there's just he doesn't by
the way, everyone, if anyone's actually wondering, there's just so many.
It was an ITV bus who like platform fucking Piers Morgan every morning get oh,
like it's too many things. I'm just like, oh, I don't
want to see Tesco sapped in a rainbow. Like if it was full of
people that do amazing they weren't priced out and did amazing things for our committe,
Like yeah, all year round. I would fully go and support it.
And a lot of people probably wouldn't go and see that because it want
to be is that's cloud or as colorful or as like fun to watch quote
unquote, So yeah, make it like let's Tesco. I don't know what
out for Tesco to that cute. Also, season four, we are looking
for sponsors. Yeah, if you are listed Tesco exactly, you know platform
platform, this valuable and needed podcast. Yeah, we can't march just the
six of us, get us on your bus. U if I had a
free ride around the parade on a bus, yeah, I'll be up for
it. One thing I do actually love about this parade and it's more than
I've had previously, and it's just happening in a lot moree and you know,
we talk about it so and won't I won't lave the point too much.
But I had so many people came up saying they listen to the podcast
and how much I love it. Okay, hold that thought. Okay,
oh we have we have a curious cat. I've got a curious cat for
that, I do I do not sure if you remembers this, But I
had a lovely chat with Joshed out of side Soho Square in London, Pridday.
I just want to let him know that he's an adorable human and he
made me feel like we're two friends catching up. Oh yeah, you were
so lovely whichever one you were, no remember and yeah, thank you son
world for coming up. Was well, it's so nice to hear because you
do forget. We do forget? Do we forget that people like lesson,
don't we? And every time I'm like, yeah, no, no,
really listened, but we've got the fallen to our guns to their head.
Wow wow, but yeah, David, David doesn't doesn't. The only way
you get David to listen, but you just forget that people listen to us
and actually care that we say us a lot. But he's wild that we
go out and meet our fans, like what the like wild guys? Like
what can I get out of it? Can I get out of three drinks?
Yeah? I'll give you a stamp every time you come up to me.
We've we've got the tenth ones free. We've got another couple of curious
cats. The first one I think it's probably from Guy. Actually, it
says Guy and John making only fans please. Wow, Why white? Why
the white ones they raised him stayed out? I know, I'm sure I
can obviously see where you're coming from. The black just say it with your
jets, what my drugs? I'm all right, actually sick of it.
No, I don't mind racism when I benefit from it. No, life
the white gay stayed out goes to Black Pride pentyfour. I was like,
I mean, if it benefits I mean no, I mean, obviously,
if you want me to set up on only fans, I will, but
just not like to be. But I don't see why. Literally, I
think that all you were boys can participate equally and fairly, will go And
if not, you can all you can know you can spin. I actually
cannot go. Ya, how dare you that it's hilarious? It was so
disgusting And yeah, that was on me. He was I told you,
no, no, I actually don't want to join someone else on the off
the back of last week's episode says someone needs to go up, Someone needs
to write the screenplay of Josh and his high school rival makes the film like
very confessions of a teenage drama. Meets high school musical money. I really
want to meet him. He's say sweet, and he's so sweet. I
couldn't you know he was actually he was. I mean he was freaking hilarious.
What I would say about that is a gay child me. I mean,
let's like, yeah, told me I was hilarious and I'm joking.
But I had some absolutely wild times. Yeah. I was mister g essentially
so and I looked like Corbyn Blue. I had hair man so of high
school musical fair. Oh yeah, I can imagine you like doing the moves.
Oh yeah, absolutely, why yeah, sorry, whoa, whoa?
Thank you pipes. I've got pipes. Okay. Then we've got a slightly
more and maybe thought provoking a curious cat to end this half the episode on.
I'm going to reword it slightly, so the curious cat in essences is
not sleeping with trans men as a gay man transphobic hmm. I think that's
an interesting question and it's definitely I think a complex one in some ways because
I suppose it refers to m preference kind of what we talked about before,
you know, when we talked about racial preference. Yeah, I mean,
what I would say is I'm always where we have questions like this because often
it can be coming from a trans exclusionary place. Yeah, you know,
I think there's a really dangerous mythic the kind of gets bandied around the kind
of trans people are forcing people to have that sort of sex with them,
and that isn't the team want it. So just I would want to precede
any kind of discussion don this by saying that. Secondly, it's something that's
really a sensitive topic as well, So I think, you know, it's
just to be cheated with respect. So all I can say is my opinion.
Um. So I I'm attracted two men and that includes trans men,
trans men or men. UM. I have UM for trans men in the
past. UM And for me, that's that's where my that's where my attraction
lies is in somebody's gender and that's what I'm I'm attracted to. UM.
So yeah, so that's that's where I'm coming from it, Like what I
what what we can't do, even as as as people as dictate people's preferences,
but what we can, I think be reflective of is the fact that
these preferences aren't created in a in a vacuum. Yeah, that's my opinion
on it. I would just I would, I would agree with you in
everything you said and just to kind of add to it, the problem the
problem. The problem comes when for me, when you're like, like you
just said, transparent and men tras women and women. The problem comes when
you were vocal about your disdain or you're vocal about not what's the opposite of
preference, don't like, yeah, exact your vocal saying I don't want to
sleep with transman blah blah blah, transparent or not men. That is where
the problem is for me. Yeah, So like it's a bit like yeah,
similar, So like, okay, so my date like white guys,
but like like if you're out there like no blacks exactly like the other curious
cat guy we see you boom, then yeah, then then that's where you
run into rocky territory. Okay, I agree. I think I think I'm
with John. I think that it's I have not slept with transmand before.
But I think to like actively go out and be like I'm putting a grind
of prof file or actively say it or whatever, I think that is hugely
problematic. It's almost saying like you have a hate. Yeah, exactly,
and you know you you you meet people and fall in love with people and
feel things for people. And if you have these horrible prerequisites kind of written
down in your head somewhere, then you've got too much hate inside you.
It's not it's not a good place. But yeah, like shout out,
Like I just want to say, like to be visibly queer and trying in
a really hostile environment at the moment is um, it's really difficult. And
so that's the last thing. Um. You know, sex should be a
joyous thing, you know. And what I would say is just make sure
that you find people who who celebrate your body whatever. It does feel like
a loaded question. Actually yeah, I think so, I do. I
do actually want to say that we've we've had turfs upping out. I've been
a curious cat and you're not welcome here. Tea is tears, like why
would you be listening to this? I really like, what's not clicking?
Go do something else? Anything else? Anything else? Go watch that.
I had to get I had to get off my chest that you're not working
our DM cat go away. Yeah, if you're trying, like if you're
sending that question because you're interested to hear opinions cool, but like, if
you're trying to be then you can fuck off. Oh that feel good?
It feel good, feel so good. Right, We're gonna take a quick
break and we'll be back with impot God, aren't we done? You can
keep that in? I mean, I mean it can I leave? Hi,
guys, I'm welcome back. I haven't got time to edit this fist
going out tomorrow. We're going from here. Look at these lovely good tits.
Well. I actually in the first half I missed. I forgot.
We had a DM on Twitter as well. Oh baby, And this is
definitely a bit of self promo on the person's behalf direct mail give it so
shout to Alexander Leon who has GM us to say, please talk about how
fucking attractive every single person at UK back White Pride was and the fact that
melanin is obviously the secret ingredient to be stainingly beautiful Exhibit A. Me f
yi, also start all messages, all mentions to my DM's thank you and
good night. I mean I was there too, Yeah, looking like Dale
Brad, I'm tand literally a little bit of me yeah, a little bit.
Oh my god, No, not that classic white people things, same
shade I'm coming out. Yeah, yeah, I know, Yeah, you
are you are, No, you are looking a definite shade of aggressive beige,
aggressive being the main where John straight out here looking like a fucking drumstick.
Not anymore, not anymore. Oh my god, but my nose did
actually peel after last week. He was awful on my shoulders, bad times,
bad times with the white person problem, many many I could never be
me. Yeah he stayed that on your only these two fucking peeling sun burned.
I have to laugh. So we're going to finish the entire season,
my god, with tell me with an international dilemma. Oh yes, I
am lying to Berlin. I'm but I'm busy. Oh my god, two
niche I don't know, I don't know. Sometimes shout out to our five
followers. Happy birthday, Miranda. Yeah, so I saw jack on Jackman,
who just did random thing on the most beautiful jawline he hasn't he but
slu gorge. I saw him square and he literally took his glasses off in
like stunned. You actually really good? Who? My whole weekend was this
post piss It was actually preep. Guess what I actually talking about happy birthday
Miranda. Guess who followed me on Instagram today? Miranda some sum legend followed
me from London to New York. Birthday babies anyway, dilemma. Hello from
New York, London, New York. So just wondering if I'm completely trash
or circumstances allow me room for trash behavior. I have a friend let's call
him Ian. I love it when they do that. Yeah, I help
for getting a name. Well, God, we've barely been talking about Ian.
Oh no, we were talking about that before we went on. I
have a friend let's call him Ian, who has a revolving door of good
looking boys he brings around our group of friends. Jealous, he never commits
to them enough to ever be boyfriends with them, so usually they stopped dating
after name more than a few weeks. However, a couple of them are
stuck around integrate themselves into our friend group, or at least the outskirts of
our friend group. The question is it okay if I hook up with the
boys he brings around after he's done dating them, I'm trying not to date
any of them. That trying not to date any of them with all out
dancing and one of them wants to make out. Should I hold back the
dilemma? I love that he's breaking down. Was that not the dilemma?
No, that was the that was That was that question, David. That
was David, David. And suddenly you go filthy with a bit. But
I'm sick of you to put him in Rice put him in right, it's
richtel Pale for men rise. Yes the kea and yes, I didn't say
quinnowa because oh my god, culture, oh you know me. The dilemma.
There was a situation a couple of years ago with one of his excelling
flings. Let's call him Noah Noah, Yeah, she's getting biblical. Let's
call him who I interesting he knew before he met me, and that's not
We're at a club dancing and things turn sexual in the club. Yeah,
my favor against my better judgment. I followed now into a dark corner when
we fucked we love a bloot to. I felt so bad after and tried
to talk to Ian about it, but he iced me out for some time.
We're cool now, but it's something that hangs over our friendship. It
makes it weird when the boys who the boys joining the group are also attracted
to me. Is it time to have an unfinished conversation with Ian? I
don't want to reopen an old wound, but it makes if it makes things
easier to deal with many boys who are evidently being round. Thanks for the
great Across the Pond the podcast Anonymous in Practice Law Because of female I think
you want to fuck Ian? Wow, twist that's vibe. I'm getting what
you got the vibe I'm getting. How did you get to that? I'm
just thinking, you know, you're kind of looking at the people, but
he's had sex with him, then you're kind of like, I don't know,
are you desiring them by association? They say he has a revolving door
of good looking boys. I don't know, So okay, what I would
say, vibe, let's talk a wine. What Mama Nita Madison? No,
I probably wrong, but but what I mean what I would say is
this, there's this. I think let's break up into two things. Is
it okay for you to people when he's finished with them? Firstly, yes,
I mean if you're not close friends, yes, but they are like
you just like living with each other, or it doesn't they lived didn't They
didn't I think they are I would friends, but in the same group of
friends. But this guy doesn't love these people that he's leaving behind. Yeah,
I mean talk in sloppy seconds on the menu agreed, Oh my god,
that's your whole David, That's my favorite PiZZ and you've ruined it.
Sloppy SLOPPI is heappy with the guy on Saturday when he was waiting for the
towel? No, No, he's Australian. His name is not just oh
wow, timy kangaroo down. So I would say this day like happened,
I forgot about that. Let's not getting Yeah, the crossover nobody wanted.
Um, so going back anyway, John is right right now ropery um okay.
So like what I would say is this, if he doesn't have an
emotional connection to them, then I think it's absolutely fine. Like and also
like you've got to think about these are you know, these are people with
our own mind as well, and so if they're attracted to you when you're
attracted to them, then I would say just be adults about it and say,
look, you hooked up for a while, you know, you splodged
and dodged you like you know, and you know my squirted and deserted.
Squirted and deserted. I like that one. Um ump wow um can you
tell that we've been ghost m after every holiday? Wow? Tragic? Um.
So, like what I would say is that that like, go for
it, live your truth, and I would sit him down and get it
all on the table and say, look what like what's te why did you
freeze me out because of you know, the nore fucking today? Yeah,
what I would say is, maybe don't just rely on Ian to be your
source of men. It sounds like you don't rely on it. Sounds like
you're like a hyena, just like waiting for the lion to finish and just
dive in and have your way. Yeah, you get your own dick girl,
do it. Yeah that's really true. Actually, I mean you know
you sound Yeah. I would about just hey, oh my god, like
union, this is going to be We're empowered, thede, we're taking over.
Um. But hey, but yeah, like it is, um,
yeah, this is our episode. Keep your garrets of thanks for having me,
no problem literally edits records hosts. Um. But yeah, like you
think you absolutely right, it mustn't be good for you. I'm selves team
to can constantly be getting like, you know, left over dick. You
know, yeah, yeah, get some of your own dick. You can
still go for that left over dick. Yeah, yeah, hanging dick when
it comes home. I mean I think we all like a hanging deck.
When it comes down to it, we are all sloppy seconds. Wow,
brave Sherry Spring, I thought of a dick. Yeah, we are like
they are. You know, in theory, there are a few of you
know, not all of us, but like, when it comes down to
it, ninety nine point nine percent of gay men, we have all been
fun before. We're all somebody's sloppy seconds. And if you worry about where
they've been, who they've been with, blah blah blah, then you'll never
you'll never be happy. I'm definitely not. But okay, baby, do
you want this lobby like just just you know, let let go and you
know, fu Ian, No, you need to stop shipping and on just
yeah, I mean I do. That's the thing. I do think if
you are, you know, following his movement, stop your seconds, then
maybe there's something there, maybe you could love Ian, But how would you
actually feel because sometimes, like I know, I'm like fucking you. But
if I was Ian, would would anyone be a bit salty? I mean,
you ask first, but he hasn't asked something, that's what you're saying.
I would. I think I would be ready voted. I actually would.
If it was like a recurring theme, I might be It'll be like,
yeah, if it was always happening, I'd be really like once like
two years ago. Yeah, build a bridge. Yeah you can fuck you
one. I mean, I don't know what ads are you expected from this?
We tried. I love you. Yeah, but thank you and thank
you for listening when across the run an international moment in US, and also
if you are listening from somewhere that isn't the UK, can you just shout
out because I want to see something on Twitter especially that would be lovely trying
to see something. What is everyone's highlight of this season being please finished?
Well? Obvious? Um, Josh, I mean, I know, well,
but I loved that first episode we did. It was just that it
was really fun to can be back with all of you. I remember when
we actually like recorded the podcast and then forgot like it to stop these yeah
we start again in the wel we were here justly ours Yeah, yeah,
we got tired of listening to you too. But I would say that was
a drag. That was I think I love that one. It was all
done hell. From that, I think my favorite thing has been, um,
the wine. I I mean I paid half the time. But it's
been so nice. You've been wow this season. That's saying that you're my
whole life and the pub has just been so nice. You're welcome. Yeah,
I've been very funny this season. Tea is t t um no,
excuse me, busy. I've had a really it's been a pleasure with all
of you. Um, I hope. I wish you all well. And
they never saw him again. So we're playing on taking a much shorter break
this time, right, we're planning to be back in like a month ish.
Now you're scaring the people. No, my month, Okay, a
month, No scared. Nobody's okay, we'll call you. We'll call you.
I'm not joking a bit. We seat we get I don't know what's
going on. I'm gonna wrap it up. Guys. You can follow us
on Twitter that on the latch. You can send us your dilemmas in a
couple of weeks time. If you'll just send them now. If they're long,
if they're like longitude and all dilemmas, like, if they're like over
a long period of time, if you tell if you're going to be going
through it in a month and hit us up. Okay, you can just
send them, Vike your risk, cat you can. I mean, one
of us will get bet to you. We won't. On the Latch podcast
at gmail dot com for us on Instagram, on the la podcast. And
that is it. Oh my god, season three with a rap. It
is a rap chat out to everybody. But I love you all guys.
Yeah, it's been really nice. I think we've met more fans this season
than we have before. It's been really nice, have we I mean,
David? But yeah, thank you as a boy in um yeah, do
you want to sponsors for season four? Oh my god? Yes, Emerald
Glides, I know you're listening. Love you bye bye? Yeah? Right?
Yeah, I hope you recovered. Are you listening it? Okay?
Sorry? I don't know how about people who's not well? Who's not well?
Who are you wishing a speed of a Corey? Josh? Is it
you? Bye? Bye bye? Thank god? That was nas