WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:14.439 Yo, me go me bait, it's the Internet. You're busy. Let's 2 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:17.760 do this for November ninth, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or 3 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.440 so, let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess 4 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:25.160 Mornings Live with me Jeff Grubb. Today, Sony is delaying a bunch of 5 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:29.800 games, Spider Man two is a red hot hit, and David Zaslov is 6 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:33.679 jumping on the Games as a Service bandwagon in twenty twenty three. But first, 7 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.679 please join me and welcome me today's co host the Game Mess Mornings. 8 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:41.119 It's Jason Bonelli. Everybody, Jason, how are you doing? Year's Internet 9 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:43.920 doing great on a Thursday morning. As I was saying before we started, 10 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:47.759 Daylight Savings time kicking my butt, But I think I'm finally over the hump 11 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:51.000 and ready to talk some great gaming news with you. Miss mister Grubb. 12 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.600 Are you ready for me to be a pedantic asshole? I got good news, 13 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.200 love, Daylight Savings time is over. See We're in standard time now, 14 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.039 so you can just feel like, oh, I don't have to worry 15 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.399 about daylight Saving time anymore. And just to talk yourself out of feeling anything, 16 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:03.920 I gotta say I've been I've been feeling pretty good about it because the 17 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.760 going back an hour and getting that extra hour, the kids kind of got 18 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.799 on a decent sleep schedule for the first time and a half a year. 19 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.079 I'm like, okay, I'm gonna make the most of this. Of course 20 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:15.799 that's already kind of going to shit, but yeah, that was a good 21 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.560 couple of days. Our kids are on a very strict bed by seven, 22 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.519 seven thirty up at six am, six twenty am thing, So this backwards 23 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.200 hour, they still go to bed the same time, but they're still getting 24 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.840 up. Oh boy, that hurts time. Ouch. Okay, so five 25 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:33.120 o'clock in the morning, dead, I have to go to the bathroom. 26 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:34.400 Yeah, go ahead, you're seven and five. Now, you don't have 27 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.159 to tell me anymore. We'll just go do your thing and go lay down. 28 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:40.560 Please. It's for the rough week, but yeah, that would be 29 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.040 rough. Coffee's here, We're good, I'm refueling. Let's do this. 30 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:48.480 Oh that's a good coffee mug too. He's got a red Ranger coffee mug. 31 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.200 If anyone wants to screenshot that and send that the jan tell him what 32 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.719 he's missing. He'll appreciate that. Mason recognizes Jason. It's right, yes, 33 00:01:55.799 --> 00:02:00.040 exactly. Was that as a kid, like, that's Jason, so 34 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.840 I'm into him? Oh yes, my my, my mother had painted and 35 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.920 painted him on my wall, my bedroom wall, and that's a big bust 36 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:09.319 with his name and a coin. It was awesome. Oh yeah, That's 37 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:13.120 the reason I got into the Power Rangers was there was a Jason and MI 38 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:15.280 name was Jason. It was very easy. We were talking before we got 39 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.479 started about Super Mario RPG. You were on your mellow shirt getting excited about 40 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.360 that game coming out soon? Is it like? Wait, is it a 41 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:24.199 for me? It's okay. Soon as that game's out dropping everything else, 42 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:28.680 I'm playing Super Mario RPG again, I don't care it Is it the same 43 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:31.439 for you? Uh? Yes. I have been reviewing a lot of games 44 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:35.479 between in the last couple of weeks and I have been able to make it 45 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.520 so all of my reviews will be done and then all I have to do 46 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:45.400 is play Super Mario ORPG on November seventeenth, and I'm very very excited. 47 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:50.479 It looks really good. It looks good. It's it's uh, it's a 48 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.759 dream come true for someone who this was the game that got me into turn 49 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.479 based RPGs. I got him late right, Corona Trigger passed me by Final 50 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.560 Fantasy three now six passed me by. On the Super Nintendo, I was 51 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.039 all Mario and easy platform or stuff. Played a lot of Bubbsy as a 52 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:08.520 kid. It was weird, but Mario because it was Mario in a new 53 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:10.479 format. So I'm like, all right, I like Mario. I'll try 54 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:14.000 it, and then the rest is history. It's a very formative game in 55 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:19.039 my in my childhood, pretty much same here where I was like aware of 56 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:22.000 Final Fantasies and the Dragon Warriors, and I was looking over it and I'm 57 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:23.479 like, it would be nice to be into those, but I'm not gonna 58 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:28.479 like take a risk and waste my money or my money waste the couple of 59 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:30.280 times my parents get me games a year on asking for stuff like that. 60 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:35.240 I'm gonna stick with Mario. So then you know Super our rpgc that in 61 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.520 the magazines, and then you see it getting really good reviews in the magazines. 62 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.680 Well we're getting this, and even that's like I think I rented it 63 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.000 a bunch of times before we ever got it, just rented it so many 64 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:49.759 times, and it was like a surprisingly decent rental RPG where yeah, I 65 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.560 mean, you're probably not gonna beat it in the weekend, but you can 66 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:53.919 get to a lot of the good stuff in a weekend, and then you 67 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.039 can just take the risk of them. Man, let's see if we're gona 68 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.039 get it again, and if I see our save file is still there, 69 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:00.599 And a lot of times it wasn't, and it wasn't that bad, Like 70 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.120 let's just start over. This is a great game. And so I played 71 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.719 it so many times that way where where I didn't never got to the Indian 72 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:11.159 Plane it that way, and that happened later. But yes, the good 73 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.759 rental game for sure, and my not blockbuster was called the Video Update. 74 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:18.959 It was around the corner from my house. I could walk there. I 75 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:23.439 got in good with the cashier, so we would do the here I'm returning 76 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.240 this. Here, I'm renting it again. Oh, that's got a good 77 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:30.279 deal. They were cool with me for that, and like probably since twenty 78 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.519 twelve, twenty thirteen, I play RPG once a year, whether it be 79 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:39.240 on a on an emulated handheld or the Sees Classic. I think if it 80 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.680 wasn't already on there, I modited to be on there. Yeah, that 81 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:46.720 actually is on there. Remember that. Yeah, yeah, so I once 82 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:47.839 a year I loaded that up, but I hadn't done it yet for twenty 83 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:53.000 twenty three. So perfect timing, perfect timing excellence. All right, let's 84 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:55.480 explain what we do here most weekdays, I, Jeff Greb, will help 85 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:59.120 piece your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some 86 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.600 of our own original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the input 87 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:04.199 of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. If you were 88 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.720 watching live on twitch welcome, You can always listen to the show later on 89 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.959 podcast feeds by searching for Game Mess Mornings, or find the RSS on giant 90 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.800 bomb dot com. You can also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps 91 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:20.720 on YouTube. Hello YouTube, Hello, And I was like, wait did 92 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:24.439 I say that? I was like a flashdac Wait did I turn on YouTube? 93 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.839 It's that's the first thing I did, so seriously, Hello YouTube. 94 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.160 All right, we have a lot to get into, so let's start the 95 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.560 morning mess with PlayStation five has shipped four point nine million units during its Q 96 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:38.240 two twenty twenty three. This is from Sophie Macaway. Games Industry Dot is 97 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:43.560 sort of wrapping up the Sony financials and specifically PlayStation financials. Sony has released 98 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:47.759 its second quarter results for the financial year, showing an increase in overall revenue 99 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:51.600 due to a rise in its movie, music and gaming businesses. Sales were 100 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:57.680 up eight percent to around eighteen point five billion dollars. Net income was down 101 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:02.120 twenty nine percent to about one one point two one point three two billion dollars. 102 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.600 Game in network services, meanwhile, was up thirty two percent to around 103 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:11.800 six point three to one billion dollars. For the highlights, Sony attributed the 104 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.000 increase in sales during the second quarter to growth in its games and network services, 105 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:20.000 music and picture sectors, while also experiencing an income decrease in its financial 106 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:25.639 and entertainment, technology and service segments. Looking at games and network services more 107 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:30.279 closely, growth was attributed to an increase of sales in hardware, non first 108 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.240 party titles, including add on content, and the impact of the foreign exchange 109 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.639 rates. Software sales were up twenty six percent to three points one to six 110 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:42.560 billion dollars, representing sixty seven point six million copies sold across PlayStation consoles. 111 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.519 First party titles represented four point seven million units. Of this total was Spider 112 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.160 Man two, selling more than five million units worldwide as of October thirtieth. 113 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.560 You might be wondering, how the hell does that math work out? Well, 114 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.680 Spider Man two came out after the end of this quarter, so they're 115 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.519 just throwing in Spider Man two for a little bit of fire like flavor to 116 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:01.959 like let people know, hey, next quarter is going to be even bigger. 117 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.240 Sony said this was in line with its expectations and represented a twenty five 118 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:11.879 percent increase over the number of PS four units sold in the second quarter of 119 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:15.040 the fiscal year ended March thirty first, twenty seventeen, during which twenty million 120 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:19.879 units of the console were sold. Just a few small things here, and 121 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:24.319 really we should probably get to the next door relatively quickly the next two stories 122 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.800 because they're kind of all tied into this, But Sony is hitting its stride. 123 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:31.959 Everything is lining up for the PlayStation five to be everything it needs to 124 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:38.079 be for Sony. It's I think it's got to be all good news because 125 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.800 there are a lot of question marks about what the lineup looks like for Sony. 126 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.279 But even that those question marks haven't turned into anxiousness yet. Right. 127 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.160 People are like a little bit like what's coming down later? But right now, 128 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.160 everyone's pretty happy to be playing Spider Man two and to get a PS 129 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:55.839 five and have all this pretty strong library of games that have already come out 130 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.879 for it, pick those up, and then know that the third party support 131 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:03.240 is going to be there. Everything's working in Sony's favor right now, regardless 132 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.839 of those question marks. Right. Yeah. So, last time I was 133 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:07.480 on here, we talked about how they thought that the stock of the PlayStation 134 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.360 five was finally where they wanted it to be in detail, would be able 135 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.079 to find it wherever you wanted to during the holiday season. They picked a 136 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.800 good year for that because this is one of the strongest overall years for game 137 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.920 releases from January to December calendar years. So this makes perfect sense to me, 138 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.199 and that number I think will only go up the amount of quarterly consoles 139 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:33.200 they sell, And yeah, they really are in a good position. I 140 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.759 think there's one sector of first PlayStation titles that people might be worried about, 141 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.159 and we'll get to that, I think, But as far as general overall 142 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:43.840 concern, no, I don't think there's very much of that at all. 143 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:48.279 Would they rather there be some new, shiny first party titles to talk about? 144 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.559 Sure? I mean, there are a lot of dormant franchises in PlayStation's 145 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.879 library that we'd like to hear a little more about. But people are happy 146 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.720 with Spider Man two sold crazy as that number says right there, and those 147 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.960 announcements will come when they decide to make them showcase state of play what have 148 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.360 you. I personally am not worried about Sony. I know that they're going 149 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.279 to end up first selling the most consoles this generation like they always do, 150 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.840 but yeah, I would like to see some more first party titles too. 151 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.279 Yeah, And I mean, we can look at net income being down twenty 152 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.240 nine percent, but it's still one point three two billion dollars for a single 153 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:28.399 quarter. That's a decent amount of profit to make. And you can imagine 154 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.639 net income going down is because they're spooling up a big marketing campaign and they're 155 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.279 spending a lot of money on these live service games, which we will we 156 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.000 will get to in a second what's happening there, And they're spending a lot 157 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:43.080 of money to market Spider Man two specifically, So it's like, yeah, 158 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.759 net income down twenty nine percent compared to the year before, but those bets 159 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.840 are going to pay off even bigger, especially through this holiday season, at 160 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:52.919 least when it comes to Spider Man two and selling consoles. The live service 161 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.519 games still a question, but the you got to spend money to make money, 162 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.559 and that's seems to me where they're at right now. Remind me where 163 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.799 the the PlayStation plus rate hike happened? Was that in this quarter? Will 164 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.600 that be first in next quarter? God, that's right, when did that 165 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.960 happen? That might have been in this quarter? Let's see if they even 166 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:15.720 talk about that. Yeah, I think that was in this quarter. So 167 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:20.240 that because that would explain the network service sales being up so much because people 168 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.559 maybe as did not cancel that they didn't have as many cancelations as they expected. 169 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.039 That's what they said. Yeah, so that could be a big part 170 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.080 of this too, which the live service thing, which we'll get to in 171 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.600 a minute. Maybe they're hoping people will come back and that's why they're delaying 172 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.840 live So but yeah, that's that's that's a couple segments away. But yes, 173 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.399 I think I think the PlayStation Plus adjustment might have had some impact on 174 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:46.519 that network and service sales part at the very least. Yes, let's kind 175 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.039 of get to this next part Marvel's Spider Man two sold five million units last 176 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.399 month. This is from Alex Hopley at gam Reactor. That's a big number. 177 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.320 Marvel Spider Man two is the fastest selling first party PlayStation game in history. 178 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.279 They said it hit two point five million sales at launch. In the 179 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.919 few weeks since its first released, it managed to top more than five million 180 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:07.879 copies sold total. Pretty good, huh, pretty good, And I'm not 181 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.679 surprised. I mean that Insomniac and Spider Man just makes money, and they 182 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.279 did it for a while in the two thousands, they stopped doing it, 183 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.559 and now they're back again. Playing through it right now, I'm actually got 184 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.639 a code late, but I am reviewing it for a mmrpg dot com. 185 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:26.399 Loving what I'm playing so far. I personally am not the best at the 186 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:30.360 swinging mechanics, Like I get it. I just side every once in a 187 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:31.440 while I get messed up and I run into a building or something. So 188 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:37.080 having that glider has really helped me get through this city, not to mention 189 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.559 the excellent fast travel and the combat is out of this world. I really, 190 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.240 I get it. It makes a lot of sense. It's nice to 191 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.600 see a game sell this much. And then have the critical acclaim and the 192 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.840 juice to back it up. So this is all well deserved and makes total 193 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.559 sense today. Yeah, I mean to put it just want me Super Mario 194 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.960 Brothers. Wonder was the fastest selling Mario game and sold about four point three 195 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.120 million copies in a couple days, more than what we're talking about here. 196 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.799 This is last month, so these both those games came out October twenty second. 197 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.360 I want to say that probably that's fuzzy you I think that's right. 198 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.639 So this game had about, you know, nine to eleven days worth of 199 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.120 sales something in that range, and to have five million copies sold in that 200 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.120 time is bonkers. It's just it's huge, and really it is. Spider 201 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.279 Man was the franchise that has been doing this for Sony, so the fact 202 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.679 that it's continuing to do that, it's just maybe the little surprising thing here 203 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.559 is this was just on PlayStation five and that just did not slow it down 204 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.720 at all. Right, And you mean to continue the Wonder analogy. Wonder 205 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:43.320 sold less on a much larger console install base. There are way more switches 206 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.440 out there than the RPS fives, and Spider Man two still outsold it with 207 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:48.399 less time and less consoles. It's amazing. Yeah, I mean, Spider 208 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.080 Man is one of those characters. It turns that is actually up there with 209 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.279 Mario and Mickey Mouse and Superman and all that stuff. It is. Spider 210 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.639 Man is a globally recognized and beloved care you name, Yes, exactly. 211 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.039 So them being able to capitalize on that, like, yeah, you could 212 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.000 say that that's true for a lot of and it's true for Superman, and 213 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.000 we haven't had a game that's been able to capitalize on that. So having 214 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.320 its Omniac come through make a game that people really really like. It is 215 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.399 a Game of the Year contender, at least in that top ten, and 216 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.960 so people are going to gobble this up. Turns out that's exactly what's happened 217 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.600 here. And you know, this is a game that probably will sell for 218 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:30.120 they will have legs a lot of PlayStation games that do do very well out 219 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.120 of the gate. You know that you see him reduced price in the sales 220 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.399 slow down pretty quickly. That that's fine, and that's what they sell to 221 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.960 their audience. And they found that audience right away and all those people show 222 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.720 up on day one. That's what you want. But Spider Man two is 223 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.440 going to be the kind of game that when people are buying at PlayStation PlayStation 224 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:48.799 five of two three years from now, well, they're going to do it 225 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.120 to play this game. Still. This is going to be what they pick 226 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:56.320 up. So even though like Mario Wonder is going to have legs as well, 227 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.559 that game is going to keep selling they always do. Spider Man two, 228 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.919 I think, is to be right there with it. It's probably probably 229 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:07.320 won't have quite a strong legs as Mario Wonder. Almost nothing does as compared 230 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.639 to two D Mario games, But I think Spider Man two is going to 231 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:11.799 be so close it's going to be indistinguishable. And really, in the end, 232 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.360 Spider Man two could end up selling just as many copies as a Mario 233 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.720 Wonder, which is going to end up around twenty five million copies sold. 234 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:22.840 So that's big numbers for a game. Huge. I think both of those 235 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.039 games could sniff ten million this holiday season. Yeah, but oh yeah, 236 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.399 I don't think it's out of the realm with possibility, which is amazing. 237 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.759 It's amazing, all right. And then the last little bit of tip bit 238 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:39.559 of information from Sony out of its financials, Sony is delaying six Live service 239 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.600 titles. This is from Alex Hopley at Game Reactor. Again, a lot 240 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.480 of gaming companies have big plans for live service projects. We'll talk more about 241 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.000 that in a second, as well. As we reported on recently, Warner 242 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:52.080 Brothers is making a big push into the model. But even with so many 243 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.919 live service games and the works, not even not every one of them is 244 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.480 going swimmingly. Sony's reportedly delayed six of the twelve live service games it has 245 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:03.919 in the work. During an earnings call, Sony President, CEO, president, 246 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.080 CEO, and CFO Hiroki to Toki confirm some games were pushed back for 247 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:11.960 quality reasons. We are reviewing this. We are trying as much as possible 248 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.440 to ensure these games are enjoyed and liked by gamers for a long time. 249 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.879 Of the twelve titles, six titles will be released by fiscal year twenty five. 250 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.399 That's our current plan now, just real quick. Originally they said we 251 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.519 want to have twelve titles and the games of Service Realm released by the end 252 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:31.360 of fiscal year twenty twenty five. As for the remaining six titles, we 253 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.080 are still working on that. That's the total number of live service and multiplayer 254 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.440 titles and mid to long term, we want to push this kind of service, 255 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.639 and that's the unchanged policy of the company. It's not like we stick 256 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.720 to certain titles, but game quality should be the most important thing. I 257 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.519 think that's completely fair. But so you know, this is them like kind 258 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.159 of having to reckon with the fact that this is a not going to be 259 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.799 of snap your fingers and suddenly you have twelve live service games that everyone's loving 260 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:02.000 and playing. It's going to be a long slog to get to that point. 261 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.000 And even when many of these games come out, doesn't guarantee they're going 262 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.600 to be liked at right when you launched them. It's going to be a 263 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.639 big push after that point to get them to a place where people really like 264 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:14.440 them. That's happened with a lot of live service games. So the strategy, 265 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.600 it's something that Sony says they're still committed to. But how are you 266 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:22.600 feeling about it. There's only so many players to go around and so much 267 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.320 time to go around. So if you want to launch twelve live service titles 268 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.559 and expect your most fervent fans to play all of them, like I only 269 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.240 play one live service game at the moment regularly, and that's Fortnite, and 270 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:38.360 I still go days without even being able to jump in for a match. 271 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.840 So to expect their fan base now, granted, you'll have like, if 272 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.519 there's like factions the Last of Us, if that's one of them, you'll 273 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.360 have the Last of Us fans that play that. Just hypothetically speaking, I 274 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.919 don't have any information here. If there was a live service game set in 275 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.000 God of War universe, somehow you have the God of War people playing that, 276 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.480 Spider Man playing that, so on and so forth. So I get 277 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:03.240 how they think they could build like a foundational base and then maybe attract people 278 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.680 with you know, limited time events and stuff like that. But still, 279 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:11.039 twelve is way too damn many. It's too many. Six, I would 280 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.799 even argue is too many. So I hope that they have some sort of 281 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:21.039 you know, I like that they want to focus on gameplay or game quality. 282 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:26.599 It definitely, you know, live service has that that connotation to it 283 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.240 that people are they release live service games to make the quick buck. Yeah, 284 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.039 they can be. They can be very profitable when they're successful. So 285 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.559 it the fact that they're not rushing these twelve games out is good. But 286 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:42.559 at the same time, is there enough money disposable income to go around to 287 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:48.599 make all twelve titles successful even with this half and half delay. I just 288 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.119 don't see it. I mean, I think we have to assume that they 289 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:55.720 know and we know, and that people making these games know not all twelve 290 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:57.880 of these games are going to succeed. In fact, it's I think they 291 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:03.559 at Sony probably believe two of them might make it out of the maelstrom that 292 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.559 will happen as these games are launching and the whole and that's that seems to 293 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.880 be the strategy though it is. You know, you're putting things a bunch 294 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.079 of bets on the craps table, and and you're trying to do it strategically 295 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:15.279 so that one of them pays off really big and then pays for all the 296 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:22.119 other failures. And I think that's fair to an extent. It's just right 297 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.319 now, as we are looking at Sony's uh, you know, schedule of 298 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.000 game releases and coming out of their last PlayStation showcase, which was pretty heavily 299 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:34.279 focused on live service games, or at least the suggestion of those, and 300 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.920 and had a dearth of the kind of previous games that when people are used 301 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.960 to from Sony First Party and say, Okay, we know you're saying you've 302 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.240 said previously, you're spending more money on those traditional kinds of games while also 303 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.559 spending a ton of money on this stuff separately. This is a new initiative 304 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:55.759 with a new budget. But I mean there is opportunity cost and a lot 305 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:59.160 of these studios are kind of making decisions like, hey, there's a lot 306 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.200 more money if we pitch to Sony that we will make a live service game, 307 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:04.440 and it could. It feels like it still could be a distraction. 308 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.160 We don't know if it will be, but right now that's how it feels. 309 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.920 And it's like, boy, live service is in a place where everyone's 310 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:18.200 sort of recognizing it's not the answer, and Sony this feels like a half 311 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.480 step. It feels like a half measure of Sony recognizing it's not completely the 312 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:25.559 answer, but they also have so much momentum behind it that they feel afraid 313 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:29.400 to abandon it. I guess, do you think all twelve of these games 314 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:34.920 actually end up coming out? No? I think I think a acceptable or 315 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:41.079 a reasonable rate would be of the twelve six launch and two of two or 316 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.400 three of them succeed, So fifty percent launch rate twenty five percent success rate 317 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:48.359 of the initial twelve is what I would think, and that's probably generous as 318 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.279 well. Also too, this is like it is a half step, but 319 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.039 it's a safe one because we don't know what these six games are. They 320 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.160 haven't announced them. They haven't even or they haven't even said if it's one 321 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.839 they have announced that is being delayed, like for example, they own Bungee. 322 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:06.440 Now they say twelve live service titles? Is Marathon included in that? 323 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.480 I think they previously have said that it's not included in that twelve. Oh 324 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.279 they did say that there's twelve. There's twelve besides. Oh man, it 325 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:17.200 just it just makes less and less sense to me. I don't understand where 326 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:18.400 they're gonna get all these players from. I don't. I don't get it. 327 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.119 Yep. I mean, you know, it's the video game business is 328 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:27.559 like it's big, but it's because it's a relatively small industry, even relatively 329 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.039 small audience. It's getting bigger all the time, but we just spend a 330 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.200 lot of money. We're passionate enough that we kind of each person, person 331 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:37.480 by person, tends to spend a lot of money on video gaming across all 332 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.880 the stuff that they play, and so I mean it comes back to your 333 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.599 original point of there's only so many hours in the day, so many games 334 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.319 that people can play. As someone chat said, twelve live services game of 335 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.160 games is about how many that they believe the industry can support total, And 336 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:55.039 it's like, yeah, kind of, that's I mean, if we like 337 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:56.440 count them out, like right now, how many are running? I mean 338 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.799 Fortnite, Apex Legends, the very things that are happening a Call of Duty, 339 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:06.200 it's like three right there. And then like PUBG is like big still 340 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.400 in a lot of other territories, but not so big anymore. But that's 341 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.880 still a big live service game. Fall guys. Yeah still yeah, okay, 342 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.880 yeah, Rocket League, I mean there're I guess I mean, as 343 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.319 you start like branching out into different genres, I think, okay, it 344 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.440 could probably support more than twelve. We probably can do more than twelve, 345 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.680 but how many more than that? It's and then and then if you if 346 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.960 you get into like other like like Disney Dream My Valley, that's technically a 347 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:36.559 live service game because they're expanding and adding free content. You could purchase uh 348 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:40.880 in game currency for the star paths to unlock new items, technically a live 349 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:44.160 service game even though it's a you know, animal crossing style life sim So 350 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:45.880 then you have to figure out how many of these games have these kinds of 351 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:51.240 currencies that may qualify them for live service even if they're not on their surface 352 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:57.799 a live service service title in the traditional respect. It it just again, 353 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:03.000 it just the more we talk about this, the less sense it makes to 354 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:08.119 me that they would put this much backing into live service, which is funny 355 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:11.720 because of what we're going to talk about after the break, Yes, exactly, 356 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:15.279 and just to like keep things in perspective here before we do go to 357 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:21.519 a break. I get why Sony makes some of these decisions because they spend 358 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.079 a lot of money on their very big games, and they're very good at 359 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:26.240 that, but they're sort of tapped out on what they can do there. 360 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.119 They could probably start up a new studio, but there's no guarantee that studio 361 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.279 will be able to replicate the success that they're getting from Insomniac, Naughty Dog, 362 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.160 all these other things. They probably will keep doing that, though they 363 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.200 probably will slowly start up other studios to try to take on those kinds of 364 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:42.039 projects, but that takes time, and again, no guarantee, and so 365 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:47.119 they have to do something to keep growing all their I talk about this every 366 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:51.319 time, but it's important to just reiterate, like their success right now is 367 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.920 built in to their expectations. People expect them to put out those big games 368 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:59.000 that sell about ten to fifteen million copies and to be two hundred billion dollars 369 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:03.720 budgeted buster games. And then they also expect games and network services, PlayStation 370 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.319 network to be to do what it's doing and slowly grow as well. That 371 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.279 stuff is factored into the stock price of Sony. And so when you are 372 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.720 a company and you have to grow and you have to make returns for your 373 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.960 investors, you have to have something next. You have to have something new, 374 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:19.720 and you've got to take big swings. And for a while there, 375 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.720 I think a lot of publishers believed, and maybe we rightly so for a 376 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.799 couple of a couple of years, especially during the pandemic, that live service 377 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.119 was going to be the answer. And now we see it's like, man, 378 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.119 everyone's mostly sort of retreating back to the games they know and they're going 379 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.720 to stick to those, like and it's very much like sports as a hobby, 380 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.200 right, Like, yeah, pickleball is a new hot thing, right, 381 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.720 that's like the first new like sport that people are putting a lot of 382 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.079 money into in a very long time. It's like there is no competitor to 383 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.319 golf. People just go to golf. You're not gonna be able to make 384 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.920 a new golf not not really. And so it's like in these live service 385 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.079 games are very similar to the way that we treat those hobbies. So it's 386 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:02.480 just it's a tough, tough not to crack. And I think that's why, 387 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.200 like someone say, Okay, we got to rethink about this once again. 388 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:08.000 At least they are reconsidering some of it, and they're willing to make 389 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:11.480 some delays. We'll talk about Warner Brothers here after the break. We're gonna 390 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:17.240 take a small little sex section right here to go. Here's some messages from 391 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:26.920 our sponsors. We'll get back to it right after this and we're back. 392 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:32.880 Warner Brothers doubles down on live service games again. This is from George Yang 393 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:37.960 at GameSpot. Warner Brothers reaffirmed its stance on to double down on live service 394 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.440 games as part of a recent investors briefing. This is despite the fact that 395 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.319 it owns Hogwarts Legacy and is the number one best selling game of twenty twenty 396 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.279 three so far, a game that is just not in any way a live 397 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.519 service game, and Warner Brothers Q three earnieds calls. CEO David Saslov explained, 398 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:57.440 our focus is on transforming our biggest franchises from largely console and PC based 399 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:03.480 with three four year release. The schedules to include more always on gameplay through 400 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.440 live services, multi platform and free to play extensions, with the goal to 401 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:11.839 have more players spending more time on more platforms. David, it's nice to 402 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:18.440 want things. It sure is. His mouth is talking, but all the 403 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:23.839 noise is coming out of his backside exactly. It's god lot of it. 404 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:26.759 What do you now see? I say this right, I say this, 405 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:32.599 but a little hypocrisy here. One of my favorite live service games of the 406 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:37.039 last couple of years was Multi Versus. I loved that. I have been 407 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:41.440 looking for the something to fill the void of Smash Brothers ever since Ultimate stop 408 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.799 releasing characters. I was having a blast with it until they decided to take 409 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.440 it in house and re release it sometime next year. If that happened, 410 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.400 I mean that was like a de facto cancelation. In some ways. I 411 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:53.440 mean, I know that's going to come back out, but like that was 412 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.759 an emission that their live service strategy for that game was not working, and 413 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:02.359 that was like one of those early indicators. It was an early a sign 414 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:06.240 that there was something wrong in the state of Denmark with live service games. 415 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:07.799 It was like, oh, that game's just gonna go away for a while, 416 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.920 what's going on there? And then we heard all this live service game 417 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:12.720 is closing down and there was like five or six or seven back to back 418 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:17.519 with that all happening at the same time. So it's like, I think 419 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.839 liking these games like, yeah, the hypocrisy, no way you're allowed to 420 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:25.759 like these games. It's just there when people decide like how to fund these 421 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:29.200 games, it's just are you looking at what has happened to them recently? 422 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.240 And it feels like David Zasloft has no idea what he's talking about here, 423 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:36.359 right he wants he's just telling his investors what they want to hear to. 424 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:38.599 You know, it's it's in infinite growth, increase profits, all the things 425 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:44.319 that typically don't work, and then you're laying off half the industry. I 426 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.400 would I would love to know if he's brave enough to say how many projects 427 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.160 they have in the pipeline, like Sony is his money to his mouth is 428 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.720 probably because if he can't, if he can't give you a hard number, 429 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:59.920 then again talking out his backside, As the copy mentions here, Suicide Squad 430 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.160 God was lamb bastard for its live service stuff, yep, and they're taking 431 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.160 all that out. In Mortal Kombat one has some live service you know, 432 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.039 currency in game currency stuff in there as well, which is hit or miss. 433 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.000 I haven't really spent a whole lot of time with it. I haven't 434 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.839 had the live service part. I haven't had to. But I just I 435 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.839 need more specifics and I don't trust Zazi here to give me those. So 436 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.519 I think he just wants to sound cool and then go back into his board 437 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.160 and say, all right, what did I just say? What just happened 438 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.359 there? Or some studios that that WB runs are now scratching their heads like, 439 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.359 oh really, so this game we've been working on and are about to 440 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.680 announce next year, let's say, is that not happening because you want to 441 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:48.279 do live service? Just the top of Warner Brothers Discovery ever since he took 442 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.599 office, has been an absolute Nightmare two. Not only for the people that 443 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.160 work for him, but for the people that have to parse what the hell 444 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.559 he's saying every time they do these calls. And I just remember, let's 445 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.359 not forget, this is the guy who told us that Mortal Kombat one was 446 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.759 coming before well what four or five months before they had decided to announce it. 447 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.519 Yep, just absolute what a dumbius. It's exactly the perfect word for 448 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.000 him, dumbass. That's why we have that word. Yeah, I mean 449 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:19.279 Mortal Kombat one and Hogwarts Legacy. There are those the two Warner Brothers, 450 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.319 two big games this year. They had some other stuff, right, I 451 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.759 think, but those are the two that come to mind. And Mortal Kombat 452 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.799 definitely has a lot of live service elements, but I mean that game is 453 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:33.920 also just a straight up like sales juggernaut on its own, and that does 454 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.279 feel a little bit disconnected from whether or not anyone plays at live service or 455 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:38.440 not. To a certain extent, people are like, we show up for 456 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.400 Mortal Kombat, we like the story campaign, and then we play. I 457 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.759 play with my friends. Obviously, having costumes and stuff in there to buy 458 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.160 makes that game a ton more money. I'm not saying, don't do that 459 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.119 stuff, go to town, do what you gotta do, but more it 460 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.079 seemed feels like Hogwarts Legacy Mortal Kombat one would have sold just fine regardless of 461 00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:02.279 live service implementation. He does go on says, ultimately, we want to 462 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.640 drive engagement and monetization of longer cide goals, and at higher levels we have 463 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.880 put specific capability, or we have put specific capabilities. We are currently under 464 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:15.319 scale, and we see significant opportunity to generate greater post purchase revenue. And 465 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.880 yeah, this is the song and dance we were hearing from EA and Take 466 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:25.400 two five, six, seven years ago and consistently the Take two's consumer recurrence 467 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:26.920 spending, I think is how they would always refer to it. And it's 468 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.799 like, yeah, I mean people like to buy more stuff in the games 469 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.480 they really like. Of course, how are you just coming to this now? 470 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.559 And frankly, you should be pointing out that, hey, if we 471 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:41.440 put more money more games out like Hogwarts Legacy, we could probably find a 472 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.400 lot more ways to grow, but they're not talking that way. It's like, 473 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.759 man, how is this lesson not being learned that having a big property 474 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:56.000 and delivering a decent game for those fans can actually be a key to success. 475 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:57.960 It's saying, you guys own a lot of properties, So how is 476 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:00.720 that not like the thing you're trying to replicate? And it just it's because 477 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.480 I think still internally they see the numbers in the way that the math works 478 00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.480 with. Here's a game that costs about as much as any of these other 479 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.759 games, but they have it has an endless ceiling. Shouldn't we have more 480 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.880 of those? And David Zasloff just goes yes, But it's like, it's 481 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.880 just not that simple, right, No, it's not. And I wonder 482 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.640 again, consider your source. I wonder if he considers something like a combat 483 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.640 pass in Mortal Kombat one Live Service, it's it's an expansion, it's a 484 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.119 DLC expansion. It ends at a certain point. But I wonder if they 485 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.039 if he just thinks they're just gonna keep making combat passes and keep adding characters 486 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:38.160 at infinitium or however you say that Latin word ad infinitum. I said that 487 00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:42.279 once and Dan, Mike Manatti and Jam rawl like you're saying that wrong, 488 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.680 and they jumped on me, and then I was like, ah, gotcha, 489 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.880 asses, no bomb cast for me over Then they're gonna scream, no, 490 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.880 you actually have to pronounce where it's wrong to be on the BombCast. 491 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.680 That's how it works. That's how it works. But yeah, I wonder 492 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.240 if he just thinks I'm just gonna keep and keep finding new partnerships for guest 493 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.000 characters. Barney the Dinosaur are coming to Mortal Kombat one. You did not 494 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:07.079 hear that here first. But but yeah, I again, my problem with 495 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.039 this is considering the source. I don't trust this guy as far as I 496 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.400 can throw them, So, like what he in the next call, he 497 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.200 could say, now live service sucks were doing single vast single player Hogwarts legacy 498 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.720 style games, then we'll all just scratch our heads it. I can't put 499 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.279 any stock into what he's saying until they start announcing actual titles. Yeah, 500 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.720 I think just the final thing here. I mean we talked about opportunity costs 501 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.000 over at PlayStation. I mean I think that's it feels like what's happened here 502 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.640 at WB with rock Steady, where they've just been working on Suicide Squad for 503 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.039 so long, trying to get it right, and that felt like a game 504 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.720 Like I know that the reporting was rock Steady decided to do this themselves, 505 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.400 but that doesn't come from nowhere. They exist, They don't exist in a 506 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:52.279 vacuum. They make these decision because they're looking at what's happening elsewhere in the 507 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.000 market and what's going to continue get in getting them support from their owners. 508 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.200 And so they decide, Hey, we're going to make Suicide Squad into a 509 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.079 live service game. And now that's just been such a hot mess. And 510 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:06.960 you kind of like, it's so easy to say endless money. Isn't that 511 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.640 what we want? It's like you got to look at the ramifications and what 512 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.960 it can do to a really great studio and how it could cause them headaches, 513 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.920 especially if they haven't done it before. So would you say it's a 514 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.559 hot game mess. It's a hot, hot game mess. Welcome to the 515 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.200 show, everybody. Let's keep going here. Take two losses Deep into five 516 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.880 hundred and forty three point six million dollars in its latest quarter. This from 517 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.799 James Batcher at Games Industry job is And I know, like a bunch of 518 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.039 numbers always like throw people off, just losses. They're big, and we 519 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.000 just got GTA six announced. I think let's just put the piece, let's 520 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.480 put the pieces together here a little bit take two as it released its financial 521 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.200 results for the second quarter, which show net losses deepening to about a half 522 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.799 billion dollars for the three and that for the three months ended September thirtieth, 523 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.440 twenty twenty three, the company saw a one hundred eleven point five percent difference 524 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.759 between this loss and a two hundred and fifty seven million dollar loss recorded in 525 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.680 the same quarter last year. So it's like the losses are trending down downward, 526 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.799 like the using more money. Net revenue and net bookings both saw a 527 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.839 slight dip, but the publisher said both were in line with previous previous guidance. 528 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.440 And there's a bunch of more stuff here, but let's just bounce off 529 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.920 there for a second. They're spending a lot of money and they don't have 530 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:15.519 a lot of stuff creating money right now. It's like, boy, what 531 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.680 could they be spending a lot of money on? And then and so that's 532 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.160 why you know, the day before this they say, hey, GTS at 533 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.599 GTA six is in the works, and previously Strauss's on that, I said, 534 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.319 we let Rockstar make their own decisions about when they're going to announce things. 535 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.400 Things seem like they've changed a lot of key people at Rockstar have left. 536 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.400 Dan Hauser isn't there anymore, Leslie and Benzay's isn't there anymore. So 537 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.119 you know, Sam Hauser still is there, but it feels like maybe like 538 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.319 Sam Houser might be more willing to play ball and be like, I'm gonna 539 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.119 come out. Sure, I'll say that if it's going to help keep the 540 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.400 stock price where it's at. I have a lot of stock intake too, 541 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.720 I would not like that to go down. So yeah, he comes out 542 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.559 and says GT six is coming, don't worry about it, And the stock 543 00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.519 price went up, and it seems like it's mostly weathering this although I haven't 544 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.839 looked since we started the show and since I start started putting the show together 545 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.240 this morning. Uh yeah, Hey, spend a lot of money to make 546 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.320 a lot of money, right GTA six. I mean, it's there's nothing 547 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.519 guaranteed in the world except for maybe GTA six being a big hit, right, 548 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.079 a big launch title for sure. We were just talking about Spider Man's 549 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.119 launch numbers being five million. I could see GTA you know, tripling that. 550 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.239 Oh yeah, I mean, especially since it's going to be everywhere, 551 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.519 maybe won't be a right away. But it'll be on multiple consoles, yes, 552 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.159 yeah, yeah, it will be absolutely it'll be the kind of game 553 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.280 like in the old day's midnight release lines around the stores, you know, 554 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.880 servers crashing because people are trying to download the game right at launch. I 555 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:44.000 fully expect that to be an absolute sales drugger nap. But just because they're 556 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.199 showing the first trailer next month does not necessarily mean it's twenty twenty four. 557 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.239 True, so we also need to figure out when this game is actually coming 558 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.000 out. I would not be surprised if some of that stock optimism takes a 559 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.599 little tiny hit if the window says twenty twenty five. Yes, right, 560 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.320 yeah. Just because like first trailer, you expect, oh, it's coming 561 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.119 out next year, that's not necessarily the case. So I want to I 562 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:07.800 want to, you know, pump the brakes on that. Granted, I 563 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:13.519 don't really want to talk about the leak that happened, but that footage did 564 00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.679 not look terribly bad for being where it was in production, So maybe it's 565 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.440 further along that I'm giving it credit for. But again, I don't think 566 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.960 you can really put a Then again, they probably know something we don't, 567 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.320 right They know already what the launch window is, and they may have told 568 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:36.800 they and they've spoken previously about how they expect their next financial year. So 569 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:38.880 right now we're in their current twenty fiscal year twenty twenty four, which will 570 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.000 end by March twenty twenty four. Then fiscal year twenty twenty five will start 571 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:47.360 and run through March of twenty twenty five, and so they've said that fiscal 572 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.840 year twenty twenty five is going to be massive for them, and their biggest 573 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:54.079 year ever, and people are like, well, how is that going to 574 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:59.840 be possible if not for GTA six. So we're putting pieces together still, 575 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.519 but that could be early twenty twenty five, to be fair, that could 576 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.800 be in that first three month period of twenty twenty five. So you're right 577 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.000 that there's still reasons to be skeptical if it falls into April, which I 578 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:14.199 believe is when GTA four launched April of two thousand and eight. I worked 579 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:15.599 at GameStop then, so it's like, you know, see what in my 580 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.119 brain, I think it was around April or May that that one came out, 581 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.800 But five came out in September of twenty thirteen, so there's no real 582 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.280 precedent to go on with the other games. If you want to include Red 583 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.800 Dead Redemption two, that was October of that year, So maybe fall is 584 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:37.000 their sweet spot. And they've had six years between Red Dead Redemption and GTA 585 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.480 six, assuming it comes out in twenty twenty four, to get that done. 586 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:45.199 Yeah, I mean, it definitely seems like they're gearing up for a 587 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:51.360 year long GTA marketing blitz, and none of these losses are going to mean 588 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.679 a damn thing when that comes out, So we will see what they have 589 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.639 plan. I'm looking forward to it though. It's gonna even if I don't 590 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.880 get into the game immediately, just watching the launch, should people reacting to 591 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.199 it, It's going to be a blast. Games of this streep Is did 592 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.960 talk to Strauszelonick a little bit about like, hey, the future of GTA 593 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.639 on all that stuff, and said, hey, are you worried about competition 594 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.800 since it's been ten years since you lost the last GTA. Strauszelnik said, 595 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:21.599 We're always concerned. We never take success for granted, and all titles degrade 596 00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:24.400 at some point. There is a decay curve. But what Rockstar has done 597 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.960 to fight that curve and in fact to create ongoing growth has been nothing short 598 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.880 of extraordinary, and I think it reflects the near perfection of these properties. 599 00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.559 Zonic also talked up solid results from other titles such as NBA two K, 600 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.559 which sold over four point five million units, and netlookings for this this title 601 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:45.119 are expected to be up year over year despite market challenges. He also cited 602 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:51.679 good performance from catalog titles such as Borderlands, BioShock, Civilization. Prior to 603 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:53.039 this, you mentioned that GTA five, GT Online, and Red Did It 604 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.679 Redemption two all did better than expected as well, you know, in their 605 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.000 various year like red Redemption two is act getting pretty old at this point. 606 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.559 In GTA five, of course ten years old, so I mean losing money, 607 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.119 yeah, sure, but this is I think this is for with them 608 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:14.480 having the expectation that next year is going to be a you know, a 609 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:19.360 couple of billion dollars in revenue and then probably a very solid amount of that 610 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.760 going to be profit, and then that will last for years as long as 611 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.559 GT Online two or whatever launches in a somewhat solid state and can carry that 612 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.400 momentum forward. And just as a side thing to Zinga, I for completely 613 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:35.079 forgot they owned Zinga. Take two did that Star Wars Hunters was that there 614 00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:39.119 we go, yes twenty four, so that one could provide a bit of 615 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.400 a boon too. Star Wars property always a big one. I expect they're 616 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:49.159 expecting big things, so that might play into their optimism as well. Assuming 617 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:53.039 that that live service game yep does well yep, And that one's that's a 618 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:58.239 that's a shooter from Zinga that's launching on mobile and switched. Who knows that 619 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:01.039 ends up changing because by next year the switch reality could be very different. 620 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:05.440 But I don't launch it on Switch. I just wouldn't be like it's on 621 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.679 Switch. Why not launch it on other consoles? I guess we'll see, 622 00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:12.960 all right. Valve is reportedly working on a Steam update that lets you hide 623 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.480 your sex games. Said anything about sex games, I want to hide other 624 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:21.639 things. Maybe this from Jess Howard at GameSpot Debian's rejoice. After twenty years 625 00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.480 of limited privacy settings, Valve appears to be rolling out a new future that 626 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:30.079 will allows Steam users to hide what games they play. Steam dB creator powl 627 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.960 June dick A noted Steam Data Minor was the first to discover the reported update, 628 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.000 and took to Twitter to share a photo of what the process of hiding 629 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.039 a game looks like According to June Dick's post, once a user marks a 630 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.679 game as private, it will be hidden from their friends, thus permitting them 631 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:50.079 to play Koi Katsu Party to their arts content and far away from the prying 632 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:53.719 eyes of their friends. Hey listen, I say, where your dirty, 633 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.800 filthy games. Loud and proud, don't be empowered, show off what you 634 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.440 got going on for you. The worst thing the Internet Internet ever did was 635 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:08.039 a lot anonymity. Goddamnita. Also, I have to laugh at the guy 636 00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:12.440 who created this this mod. His theme just happens to have Dick in it. 637 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:16.119 Definitely did not get back to me either. Every time I said it, 638 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:21.440 I was like, well, there it is. Let me my Steam 639 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.280 automatically created a category for me because it does that help you like sort of 640 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:30.159 games, and it's called adult games. Uh. And let's see if I 641 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.800 got some real highlights in there. I have a way of the press account, 642 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.840 so I just kind of sometimes I fix some stuff dark. Here we 643 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.360 go. Yeah, there is that that butts VR game. That's an adult 644 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:46.039 via VR game. But so is foot Massage the game. Let's see what 645 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:50.760 else is in here. I do have that Kuikatsu party. I've never played 646 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.239 Scarlet Maiden. That's what I talked about before, where it's like a Castlevania 647 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:58.960 game where you run around as a pixelated lady who bounces I guess I'll say, 648 00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.840 uh. And that game has like plants with dicks and stuff. It's 649 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.920 it's wild. Wow. Yeah, there's a super naughty made too. I've 650 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.440 never played the original, so I haven't tried this one yet. I don't 651 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.119 want to miss out on the war. Jason, you're missing out and you 652 00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.079 need the deep Deep Lure exactly. Yes, welcome to paradise there. So 653 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.000 yeah, listen, I'm not hiding any of these I'm not afraid of y'all. 654 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.880 You guys can't judge me. Oh boy, you even got chat has 655 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.960 is lightened up with some uh some suggestions here made all right? When's the 656 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:31.119 Koi Katsu stream illusion makes a lot of bangers. Uh, They're they're really 657 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:34.679 helping you out here. Don't listen, you, I don't. I don't 658 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.920 play those games, of course, I'm a sophisticated monster. Uh no, 659 00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:43.079 I I just PC gaming was never my thing and you can't get those things 660 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.119 on consoles, so I've never dabbled. I don't know. I'm I am 661 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.039 of the belief that if you if you're going to play these games and like 662 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.320 talk about them with your friends or you know, review them on some website, 663 00:41:54.679 --> 00:42:00.880 if that's even possible, just you know, we're on your sleeve now. 664 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:05.679 If this, if this Steam update hides everything, like or is it 665 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.119 it's made obviously or the way it works is like you can right click on 666 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.360 individual games. I think you could already hide all your library. You can 667 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.320 already make that. I think there is an option to do that, but 668 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.559 I think this enables you to not have to do that. To hide an 669 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:22.079 individual game, you just click on it, go to its properties, and 670 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.920 there's a toggle to say hide this, hide this shame, and keep it 671 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.480 in my deep secret tomb where no one else can see it. Now see 672 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.239 if you want to put a a g rated silver lining on this. Reviewers 673 00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.599 could use that, yes, for reviewing a game, any game at all. 674 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.320 But let's face it, the people are going to be used this to 675 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.480 hide their shame. Oh yeah a lot. And everyone asked if I have 676 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.480 genital jousting, I absolutely have general just I think I got a code for 677 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.559 that one. I probably did too, And I know exactly where it came 678 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:57.480 from. Shout out to Steph. But uh yeah, I mean fine, 679 00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.280 if people want to be a little more subtle about their sexy times, they 680 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.000 go right for it. Thank you, mister Dick. We appreciate it. 681 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.320 Yeah, shout out to June Dick. All right, let's keep going here. 682 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.480 The Starfield DLSS update goes live in Steam Beta. This is from Cameron 683 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:17.880 Woolsey at Destructoid At long Last, Starfield has DLSS so long as you opt 684 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.239 into the Steam beta for the update, which is live today but is allowing 685 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.960 Starfield's most interested and impatient players to get a taste of things to come. 686 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.599 With this beta. It brings in videos DLSS technology along with a few choice 687 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.000 fixes and changes, and yes, that includes the ability to eat those iconic 688 00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.920 Starfield sandwich is right off the floor like a filthy spacer. DLSS is something 689 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.480 that people have been asking for for a long time. There has been fan 690 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.639 mods that have enabled it that work pretty well. I've had some crashes because 691 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:51.199 of that specifically, but it works pretty well now Now Bethesa themselves are integrating 692 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:52.400 it and it seems like it'll come everywhere eventually. But right now, you 693 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.480 just have to go to the Steam settings, go to properties and go to 694 00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:59.760 the betas tab and opt in from the drop down menu there to play the 695 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.320 bata A branch and you get DSS and you get see There was another update 696 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.400 notable improvements in the beta. A major one includes a gameplay change that adjusts 697 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.000 the stealth to be more forgiving, which is definitely something I noticed, Like, 698 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.559 well, stealth just doesn't work in this game, not really, so 699 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.559 that's that's pretty useful as well. I I have the Windows version of this. 700 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.440 I'm not gonna like go back and replay the game just to get DLSS. 701 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:28.000 And I'm not necessarily waiting for this anyhow, because I was I've been 702 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:34.039 playing mostly Starfield on my Roger ally so and that's not gonna support DSS anyhow. 703 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.880 But hey, this is nice, a cool feature for people who have 704 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.719 Nvidia GPUs, something that you would ever check out. Jason, No, 705 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:45.320 I'm playing on console, like, I'm very fledgling PC. Hence why I 706 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.599 don't have any sex games in my Steam account. Oh yeah, I gotta 707 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.320 gotta catch out, gotta catch up. But but I I love that they're 708 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.320 doing this for the people, like this seems like such a like a niche 709 00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:58.800 thing. I know there are plenty of PC gamers out there who want, 710 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.599 you know, Top of the Line fixed look like you could just jump into 711 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:06.480 your screen and be part of the game, and this is good for them. 712 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.480 I personally am not going to get anything out of it. It's like 713 00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:13.639 that this is too long to read, but congratulations, are sorry that happened. 714 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:15.960 Good for you guys, but it's it's not something I'm going to use. 715 00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:20.239 Have you seen what Alan Lake looks like on like the top of the 716 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.639 Top of the Line PC, Because that's that's the one thing right now where 717 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.480 it's like, okay, I do want to be playing that on the big 718 00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:30.199 boy PC with all the bells and whistles because they have global illumination and that 719 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:37.119 lighting just looks so fantastic that it's there is a marked and measurable difference between 720 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.719 seeing that on a PS five or Xbox Series X versus seeing it on like 721 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.559 a forty ninety And so have you checked that out? Have you seen it? 722 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:49.199 Have you been jealous at all? Jealous? Yes? But I have 723 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.360 I been able to do it? No. I played on PS five as 724 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:58.039 well, and I barely saw most of that game, not through one of 725 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:02.039 the France. Yes, so any any interesting technology with the landing is not 726 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.559 going to matter because I'm not looking at that. I'm too busy screaming coming 727 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.960 after me. But no, again, cool, I would love to try 728 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.960 that. I would love to you know, forty ninety that with that giant 729 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.199 monitor from Samsung that just wraps around your entire yeah, your entire desk. 730 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.039 That would be wonderful. But it's just like I have a twenty seventy in 731 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.400 my rig. That's that's the best I can do. So good good for 732 00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.960 you PC folks. That's just not mine, not my thing. The reality 733 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.960 is, though, we're talking about one game and maybe like the Cyberpunk Phantom 734 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.239 Liberty, so like two games that really take advantage of this stuff, and 735 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:38.559 you know those are that's at a certain point, that's an edge case, 736 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.599 right, It's just the people who have to have the best for everything. 737 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.039 And hey, I'm glad that for the people who feel the need to have 738 00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.760 the best of everything, they are seeing a difference because it's expensive. But 739 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.639 mostly it's like, ye, you're going to get the experience on console just 740 00:46:53.679 --> 00:47:00.239 fine, especially these consoles pretty beefy still, all right, Finally, Raid 741 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.960 Anniversary Edition confirmed for April release. This comes from Jason Finelli at game Spot 742 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.159 Can't trust this guy. Fifteen years ago, the indie platform or Braid, 743 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.599 first launched. It became one of the most critically acclaimed games of its generation. 744 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.079 THEKLA Inc. Is hoping lightning could strike twice, as the company has 745 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:20.480 announced that Braid Anniversary Edition and updated version of the indie Darling is coming on 746 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.280 April thirtieth. Braid follows the adventure of a young hero who is trying to 747 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:27.760 say to Kennet Princess, but all is not as it seems. I was 748 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:29.960 thinking about this game on my walk this morning, Jason, I was like, 749 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.559 literally just cond I'm like, what never happened that Braid Anniversary Edition this 750 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.880 game. The game's main mechanic was the ability to manipulate time while traveling through 751 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.039 its world, as it let players rewind with every mistake and attempt an attempt 752 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.559 an obstacle in a different way. Updates coming in the Braid Anniversary Edition include 753 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:51.719 the following improved sound effects, newly recorded soundtrack mixes, updated graphics repainted by 754 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:57.039 hand by original artists original artist David Hellman, extra frames of animation which enables 755 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.360 smoother endgame motions, the ability to switch switch which the updated and the original 756 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:06.119 versions at will as well. Hey, this is pretty cool. Braid is 757 00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:07.679 a game where I've tried it a couple of times and I never it never 758 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.440 really drive with me. I eventually like fell in love with the Witness and 759 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.880 I'm like, oh, I should go back to the Braid to Braid and 760 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.480 try it out. So I'm gonna do that with this right here. Is 761 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.320 this a favorite of yours? Yes? This was one of the first like 762 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:24.039 major indie titles to come out when I started my writing career back in October 763 00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.360 of two thousand and eight, so it just it had already come out if 764 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.159 I remember correctly, and it was still pretty big, so I checked it 765 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:31.480 out. I wasn't really big into the indie games at that time, but 766 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:35.079 I figured this would be a good one to start with. And yeah, 767 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.920 when it when it turns, when it hits you with that twist, I 768 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:39.400 don't know if're familiar with it, so I'm not going to I do know 769 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.760 the twist. That's what I was thinking about this morning, was Yeah, 770 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.079 yeah, it really is a I think that's it's the kind of moment that 771 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.280 can transcend the amount of time it's beens as it's come out, like a 772 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.119 whole new generation of young players are going to check this out, like whoa, 773 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.920 that is super cool. Now if they could build on it a little 774 00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.960 bit more, I feel like, yeah, that was great, but didn't 775 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.599 go anywhere with it after the fact. So if they decide to add some 776 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:07.400 maybe extra content towards the end to maybe further flesh out what the heck was 777 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.039 actually going on there, I would appreciate that. But no, I think 778 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.880 this I think this game could would definitely find a nice little niche in twenty 779 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.320 twenty four, especially with the I'm going to play it again just for the 780 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.360 improved graphics, and the soundtrack is fantastic. I still have a couple of 781 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:28.000 songs for this soundtrack in my like in a couple of playlists, like for 782 00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.800 relaxing or chilling out, because it's just very, very good. I do 783 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.320 wonder, though, how the newly recorded soundtrack mixes will be, because we 784 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.920 were talking about Mario RPG earlier and so far I've heard a couple of remix 785 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.719 tracks and I'm not yeah, I mean, you know, and nostalgia is 786 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.440 hard to get over there, right, I mean, the original artists overseeing 787 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:53.000 that those remixes for Super Mario RPG. That's I mean, okay, at 788 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:57.840 least they have that going for him once it's in context. I won't be 789 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.000 able to judge it until it's in context, right, You've got to be 790 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:01.599 playing the game to know how you feel about. At least that's how it's 791 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.280 been for me with these kinds of things. So Super MARIRPG, I'm like, 792 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:08.960 let's wait and see for And you know in that game you can switch 793 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.719 back and forth between the old music and the new music at well as well, 794 00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.239 so fantastic. So I know what you mean here where it's like, 795 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.559 well, well to just play the game to know whether or not these remixed 796 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:23.239 soundtracks are going to be But you know, the music technology and games has 797 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:25.920 has improved to a certain extent, they probably might want to do like maybe 798 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.679 surround or something like that, and that's all they're going to do. We'll 799 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:31.639 see that's true. And there's one other element I want to highlight here. 800 00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:36.800 It's coming out April thirty. It's coming on Xbox both Xbox one and Series 801 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.880 X, PlayStation four and five, PC, and mobile devices, but only 802 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.800 through the Netflix app. And I feel like this is something that people don't 803 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.719 even know they do. And now that Crunchy Role has gotten into it too. 804 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.679 With these games that will only come to mobile but through our platforms, 805 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.199 this is something I think is going to expand in the next couple of years. 806 00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.360 These are games that would not have been on mobile right but because these 807 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.960 these companies have stepped up and said we want you to do it and will 808 00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.679 help you do it however we can. It's coming to iOS and Android, 809 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.239 but you have to download it through the Netflix app and it won't be it 810 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.719 won't be sold separately. That's what happens with these Netflix ones is it's only 811 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.199 through Netflix. It's not like, oh, I could get it through Netflix 812 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.159 or go to the store and get it. It's like, no, they're 813 00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:21.119 exclusive to Netflix. No, no, no. On mobile, this is 814 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.079 still coming out everything else, but on mobile it's exclusive to Netflix. Yeah, 815 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.800 and you have to go through the Netflix Mobile app to get them. 816 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.639 And the Crunchy Role will work the same way the announced earlier this week. 817 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.800 It's it's just a fascinating new way to play the game. I may even 818 00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.159 try it on the iOS app or on the on the iPad through the Netflix 819 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.039 app, just to see how it works im mobile. Yeah, I played 820 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:43.760 a bit of Into the Breach through Netflix, which is still exclusive to Netflix 821 00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.159 on mobile, and boy played way more of that game than I intended too, 822 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.719 because it's a great game and it works and it is that game. 823 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.239 But but yeah, I mean, I know that in the Netflix game and 824 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.719 stuff has not taken off, at least that's been what they said in the 825 00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.320 most recent earnings report. I believe it's like it's not really making much of 826 00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.400 a difference when we're or the other. But it does feel like they are 827 00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:06.239 slowly kind of all these things feel like them dipping their toe in of like 828 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:10.199 trying to figure out how gaming can work with their current subscriptive subscriber base and 829 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.840 whether or not they should try to do things bigger. I think it was 830 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:19.079 very smarter them not to go Google Stadia and just feel like we are We're 831 00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:21.719 the next player in games, We're the next console. Fuck your console. 832 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:22.960 You don't need that. All you need is Netflix. They're just like, 833 00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.920 do you want some games? I guess it's okay, No, that's cool, 834 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:31.760 that's fine. If they can land a couple more heavy indie names exclusively 835 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:36.360 through their app for mobile devices. I feel like they may be able to 836 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.519 find their footing, but they've offered some great ones, Don't get me wrong. 837 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:43.039 Kentucky zero great game only through the Netflix, Apple on mobile. But 838 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.199 they're not They're not there yet. They need a couple more big titles, 839 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.320 I would say before they're there. Excellent. All right, We have a 840 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:53.239 pull question from yesterday. Let's go ahead and bring that up. Grand theft 841 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:57.960 aut of six is real? And then twenty six percent said look at us, 842 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.599 forty eight percent said who would have thought, and twenty six percent said 843 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:06.159 not me. And then we had another poll granted six main character is it 844 00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:09.239 going to be Jimmy Bowley? Sixteen percent said Jimmy Bowley, thirteen percent said 845 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:14.840 Roman Bellick, and seventy two percent said Daniel Radcliffe. Who if you don't 846 00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:20.280 know, Jason played I believe Dan Hauser in the made for BBC television movie 847 00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:24.559 about the story of Rockstar, where Bill Paxton played Jack Thompson. That's oh, 848 00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:30.840 incredible, incredible stuff. Yes, all right, we have a we 849 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.760 have a new poll question that we will talk about on Monday, because we're 850 00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.400 off on Friday. It's a veteran's day work said, don't come in. 851 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.119 I'm not gonna make anyone else work. So I'm taking it off to see 852 00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.480 you on Monday for that. But before we talk about what that pole question 853 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.239 is, Jason Finelli, where can people find you? What you have going 854 00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:51.679 on? All that good stuff? Yeah, so big Man Finelli is my 855 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.639 ex It's actually any social media really if you want to look for me, 856 00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:58.920 that's where I am. I have a couple things in the pipeline. Like 857 00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.239 I said, I'm reviewing Sweaterman too for Memo RPG. Also on MMRPG, 858 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.920 I got to preview exclusively reveal a preview card for Disney lore Khana if you're 859 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.719 a TCG fan, their second set comes out in two weeks or in a 860 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:14.280 week excuse me, and they gave me a card to preview there. Also 861 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.840 in my podcast Cheese, Steaks and Controllers, next episode out tomorrow, I 862 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:23.360 spoke with Black Tabby Games about Slay the Princess Indie Darling that came out just 863 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:27.960 before Halloween and is really impressing people. Yeah. I just started really hearing 864 00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:30.400 about that game in a lot of different places now and I was gonna check 865 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.440 it out. Yeah, very cool interview with them. I'm also going to 866 00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.159 talk about the Zelda movie. I'm not going to worry about casting because we 867 00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.519 all know Link should be played by Billy Crystal. I'm gonna instead talk about 868 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:44.760 the story and other things of that nature. I personally think that you get 869 00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:47.440 around the whole Link shouldn't talk in this movie by not having them in the 870 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:52.559 movie at all. Yeah, and I'll explain how that works make them a 871 00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:53.639 force of nature. Okay, I'm definitely gonna listen. I want to hear 872 00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.039 your take on it, that's right. And then I've tweeted it a couple 873 00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.760 of times so you can spoil yourself if you really want to. And then 874 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.119 I'm going to try and predict the Game Awards nominees because they came out on 875 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:06.199 Monday. That's that's a Game of the Year is gonna be loaded, and 876 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.039 I have no idea what that's going to look like, how many games it's 877 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.639 going to be, So we'll talk about that as well. And one final 878 00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:14.039 shout out. I don't know if I actually see this, but I want 879 00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.119 to do it anyway. At the anniversary of my parents thirty eight years of 880 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.639 marriage. Hey, I don't know if you remember this, Jeff, but 881 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:24.280 you accidentally met my mother via a FaceTime call at Summer Games Fest. You 882 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:29.360 were walking through the call, she was on the beach, So I thought 883 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:30.599 it would be cool to you know, a good time to bring that up. 884 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.360 So thirty eight years of marriage to them, a shining beacon example for 885 00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.880 me and for my sister, and I appreciate the very much. Happy adiversary 886 00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:44.159 guests, Happy anniversary to the finale family. Fantastic. All right, new 887 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:46.559 poll question will be going up, actually should be up already. Let's just 888 00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:50.559 refresh this and see what it's there. I scheduled it. There you get 889 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.920 there is do you own any And then there's the eyebrow waggle adult video games 890 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:59.719 on Steam? Yes? No? And what are you a cop? So 891 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:01.559 we'll go ahead and feel free to vote on that. We'll talk about that 892 00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:06.599 on Monday. Everybody on giant bomb dot com speak at a giant bomb later 893 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.239 today, BombCast Revengeance. You're not gonna one miss it. We're gonna be 894 00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:13.320 talking about something that you don't know about it yet, the little it's embargo. 895 00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:15.239 You don't know about it. You should listen. There's gonna be some 896 00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.960 cool conversations on there. In fact, about an hour you should be able 897 00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:21.880 to see some cool videos on the website as well. I can't tease it 898 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:23.760 beyond that, but yeah, so just stick around for Giant Bomb today. 899 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:28.320 We'll have some cool stuff on there. And again it's Thursdays BombCast. Revengeans 900 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.599 is happening today, but we're off tomorrow, so no UPF and voicemail dump 901 00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:34.679 truck. If you wonder one where that was that happened yesterday, you can 902 00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.079 listen to that where I admit to a crime and you can get mad at 903 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.800 me about that. So that's a lot of fun. People can enjoy doing 904 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.199 that, all right, Jason, thank you so much for spinding today talking 905 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.639 me oil video games. Man. You know how I love it. I 906 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.440 love it too, and I love that you have me. Anytime you need 907 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.960 me, you just say the word and Philly Jason will be here. Cheers 908 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.119 mate. We'll definitely make it happen again soon. Thank you all for listening. 909 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:57.599 You're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good 910 00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:00.199 one, take care of yourself and goodbye. Hey,