WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:05.799 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez sound Fox Sports 2 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:11.439 fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio while just surgery I 3 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:15.359 on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball hero Fox 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:19.359 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay, and you're sid with Ricky. 5 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:25.640 News on the Ball. News. All right, for the news today, 6 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:29.160 We're starting off with the Raiders hiring Antonio Pierce. I know we kind 7 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.320 of touched on it earlier, but that's huge news for him and the way 8 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:36.039 that he's been able to jump up the coaching ranks. Yeah, he fell 9 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.640 forward, he did, Yeah, he did. He fell forward. Not 10 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.039 to say he's not a bad coach, but the circumstances of him coming to 11 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:46.960 coaches, well, the thing about what happened up at ASU was the fact 12 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:52.600 that the whole disregard for the rules, and you think about you think about 13 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:57.079 a guy's way of doing things, and you know, hopefully Antonio Pierce has 14 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.000 realized, Okay, I gotta be a different guy. Right, there are 15 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.719 rules that I have to follow. But again he's at the Raiders, so 16 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:08.439 who knows or I don't have to follow anymore? Because because I did that 17 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:11.879 and now I'm here right. Well when you see when you if you were 18 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:17.959 an issue grab, how would you feel one of seeing her on ESPN giving 19 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:25.480 his advice of being herm and now this, I'd probably be indifferent, I 20 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.280 really would. If you're an issue guy. Yeah, I mean yeah, 21 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.840 you know, like I like, I'm indifferent if Kevin someone goes and gets 22 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:36.239 another job somewhere, like he's out of side, out of mind. True. 23 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:40.760 Okay, well did you go to churchs this morning? I've told you 24 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:46.879 I'm not even a CND Catholic anymore. You went somewhere? Let me check 25 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:49.280 the ingredients on these these throat drops I've been. I've been, Uh, 26 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.280 I need what your dream? I don't know, Steve. I think I 27 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.239 honestly, I think i'd be pretty different because once they're gone there, they're 28 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.840 honestly, I don't really care what what they do or what happens to them. 29 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.319 Well, you're holding the bag of I mean like like, okay, 30 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:13.120 like we saw the other day that that Kevin someone got arrested for pop I 31 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:14.800 was like, okay, I read it, I looked at it. I 32 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.800 wasn't surprised, and then I moved on right, I'm not wishing bad things 33 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:22.280 on the guy, am I am? I will I forever be pissed at 34 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.560 him for what he did here. Absolutely, I'm still pissed at John mcovic. 35 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:29.439 But you know, uh, if somebody told me John mcovic got a 36 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:34.120 job at wherever I'm not, I don't really care. I can't let that 37 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:37.680 stuff in my life, Steve. I have enough grudges. I don't need 38 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:46.680 any extra words if I if I'm going to take on another grudge, I 39 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:52.280 got to get rid of one. Yeah, so so that need that would 40 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:54.840 not rank to give up one of my other grudges. That's just it, 41 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:59.560 all right. Sticking to NFL news, I don't know if you guys saw, 42 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.759 but the Buffalo Bills fans back at it again, helping shoveling snow out 43 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:07.639 again again that bat over there still, Yeah, two weeks in a row. 44 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.439 The field was great when they played the other day. Yeah right, 45 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:15.439 yeah, So the fans they're bad, they're committed. Why would you live 46 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:21.960 there that I can't Yeah, I don't understand. I people in Buffalo, 47 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.800 and you know who lived there or who has a lot of tiser's Kevin Leeman. 48 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.960 We'll talk to him sometime soon. But the people in Buffalo and Joe 49 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.360 Arsons, what the hell you think? You know what, all day, 50 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:35.479 all day, I'll go golf in that weather. Are still go golfing in 51 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:38.800 the weather they have right now? So yeah, but that weather's going to 52 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:42.840 be huge over there, ye Buffalo casee. That's I think it's probably gonna 53 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.479 be a game of the weekend. I mean, right with all the previous 54 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.080 matchups they've had, and they both playing that stuff, so it's not like, 55 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:51.280 you know, it's like kind of fair for one, fair for both. 56 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:53.400 It was it was. It was you know when when Miami went to 57 00:03:53.479 --> 00:04:00.039 Kansas City last week they got no shot and they didn't. Yeah, so 58 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.960 so a big news for this gamepe hopefully we had another good one. But 59 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:10.400 sticking with the topic of football and moving into college football specifically, Dean Sanders 60 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:15.400 made a comment today saying, how fifty thousand dollars will get you a walk 61 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.600 on these days? What? How is this money? How is this money? 62 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:25.959 Where's coming from? Yeah? I mean, you gotta pay fifty thousand 63 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:30.959 dollars for a walk on? Come on. Maybe he was being sarcastic in 64 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.720 a way, but maybe he's just emphasizing the fact that even walk ons at 65 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:44.120 this point are something. But just the whole topic of money college football is 66 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.240 is insane right here. The more I hear that, guys, is exactly 67 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:53.839 why we had Rubio on and and then and coach Lopez on here before. 68 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:57.759 I don't know if I'd want to coach under these conditions. Yeah, I 69 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:01.160 mean there's already so much to coaching, and now you throw Now you're a 70 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:04.199 coach and a general manager, right and have to go out and sign players. 71 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:08.160 You remember, did you watch your movie Blue Chips? You must a 72 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:12.279 million times and that was a different situation. Right now, it's like get 73 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:14.759 them, get them the bag, make sure it has a lot of Diesel 74 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:16.360 hundreds in it. Get the bag, the bag of money in the track. 75 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:20.120 We've got to keep them. You gotta keep them happy. And there's 76 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:24.720 that. Yeah, it doesn't make any say each college sport at some point 77 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.240 is going to need to have a GM to to run the money for their 78 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:33.319 sport. I mean for nil, especially again if the Charlie Baker thing comes 79 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:40.639 to fruition where it's the schools that are paying, Yeah, how do they 80 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:44.240 find that money? And like you said, Ohio State has thirty six sports 81 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.120 with eight hundred students or whatever. It seems to me the only way they're 82 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.680 going to do that is they're gonna have to get back get into the coaching 83 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:53.920 salaries. Coach is gonna deal with that. They might have to. They 84 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.560 might have to guess what, you know, if you think you can go 85 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.600 get that money somewhere else, go get it. This is all I got 86 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:00.959 because we got to pay players. Yeah, I mean, there has to 87 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.720 be a way to to put a limit, because I mean the amount of 88 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:10.600 players on a football roster, and each of them have to guess sort an 89 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.839 amount, right, you'd assume, yeah, or maybe it comes down to, 90 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:15.560 Okay, we're gonna have our eighty five scholarship players and that's it. 91 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.759 I don't know. I don't know how you manage all that. Yeah. 92 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:23.160 When when I first started, I mean, the main problem everyone was thinking 93 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:27.839 about was, well, certain players look at other players and say, well, 94 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.680 I'm as good as this guy. Why am I not getting that? 95 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:35.120 My initial concern, right, you know, if I'm blocking for sid who's 96 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:40.279 making one hundred thousand dollars, how much do I want to block? I 97 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.560 don't get nothing? Yeah, you know, hell would you? Then you 98 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.480 get hit see how it feels. I was gonna say something spetter, but 99 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:57.639 yeah. Sticking with the college football, Ohio State has announced their offensive coordinator 100 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:03.279 Bill O'Brien. I thought was very interesting stat from him. He spent eight 101 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:09.000 years with Saban and Bill Belichick and he didn't win a Super Bowl or a 102 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:12.160 national championship in those eight years. Everybody else did, but not that, 103 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:18.079 not him. Did I find that a really interesting thing? That h that 104 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:21.959 Bill O'Brien. I mean, he keeps, he keeps getting great jobs, 105 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:27.120 and like everywhere he goes, he proves that he was not that good. 106 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.279 He must interview with I guess, yeah, I guess. I guess it's 107 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.920 right up there with the what the Cliff Kingsburg getting? You know? And 108 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:41.439 did you did you see or listen to Jody Jody Taylor's brand, because he 109 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:45.519 continued he doesn't shredded him? What he? What do he? He just 110 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:46.879 went off saying, what the you know, what the hell you do? 111 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.360 It's a complete disaster. The guy is terrible. He was awful with the 112 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.519 Cardinal. I mean it was very long, basically saying, what the hell 113 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.000 are you doing even thinking about this guy? When did you listen to him? 114 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:00.800 This morning it was, he tweeted it out. I I listened to 115 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:05.360 the clip on on social media. Yeah, bubbah. Sticking with the college 116 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:11.959 football topic and transfers, Alabama five star Julian Saying is in the transfer portal 117 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.519 now, so we'll see where he lands. But I mean, like we 118 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.759 said, this is gonna be very common no matter what coach you bring in, 119 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.279 it really doesn't matter at this point. It's up to the player. 120 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.800 And and and I yell too well, I think it's all too though. 121 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:33.840 Also, a highly regarded quarterback from Washington is now Alabama. So this so 122 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:41.039 it's funny because the coaching changes have impacted not only coaching staffs at other programs, 123 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:46.879 but but players all over are transferring now and so replacing each other. 124 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.799 I don't know, we'll see what happens with with this kid, but yeah, 125 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.320 at this point, we don't know nobody, nobody on any roster with 126 00:08:54.320 --> 00:09:00.320 with the new coaches is safe, right right right? And then uh, 127 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:05.879 we have the topic of Arizona women's basketball tonight and Seattle. Oh did you 128 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:13.200 see who's gonna be there? Coleman? Right? Coleman and the quarterback Williams. 129 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.919 Yeah, in the game, local kid we'll see. We'll see if 130 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:18.279 we see if they show up on camera, Yeah, we'll see. If 131 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:24.559 it's personal tonight for the women's basketball to handle business, Yeah, there in 132 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:31.519 need of a big road win here. Okay, what else? So, 133 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.039 sticking with basketball and Christian Coloco, Yeah, we talked about him yesterday, 134 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.559 right, Yeah, briefly but yeah, but now now we have more news 135 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:48.679 about he has a blood caught issue that has impacted obviously his play and and 136 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.840 teams having him on the roster. I was asking about that, like, 137 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.279 if you're injured or something like that, can't you not be waived put you 138 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.320 on the I or something? Yeah? Don't they don't they put you on 139 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.759 some sort of an And who plays for? Who plays for the team? 140 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.039 Does they're supposed to even even when they're no longer with the team. Well, 141 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.919 that's what I'm saying, though, I thought you couldn't get rid of 142 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.559 a guy I don't know over an injury. That's the first thing I heard 143 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.399 last night when when he when they announced that, I thinking, Okay, 144 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.559 now he's hurt, Is he on his own or what? So? I 145 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:20.720 don't know, I'm not I'm not sure how how it's gonna work out. 146 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.639 But yeah, unfortunate news for him. He had a great career, he 147 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.519 developed. We'll see you at some point. He can let me back. 148 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.840 He would have been he would have been a junior, He would have been 149 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:33.799 done. This would have left, would have been his lest y. Yeah. 150 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.759 Uh, did it matter that he left, saying it didn't matter at 151 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.679 Arizona? Didn't you right? Right? Right, right? And he would 152 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:43.159 have got any better, right, He would have been the same he was. 153 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.919 Yeah, exactly, he was lumar Balo. But about one hundred pounds 154 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.879 later. Ye see, and Jake is talking about the basketball team, He's 155 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.879 seen exactly the same thing I'm saying, ballow and they're not playing hides. 156 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.799 Could be if you start developing these habits. Did you see that's about lay 157 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.519 up and dunks that they missed? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was 158 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:05.639 in my story. Tell you about Brian Peterson. It was. It's horrible, 159 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.840 it's bad, not good all that. You know, who decides if 160 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.879 a shot is a layup? Oh no, never mind, check those numbers, 161 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.440 check those numbers. But it's around the basket. Yeah, yeah, 162 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.799 it's just you know, it's a it's pretty easy. A layup is a 163 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:24.480 layup, right you're under the basket. You're you're trying to lay it in. 164 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:30.279 But yeah, that's that's one of my judgment calls when i'm when I'm 165 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:31.879 putting instead. One of the things that I wish we could see, I 166 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.759 don't know if they have anymore, is the shot clock shut chart where you 167 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:41.480 have the members shot truck, how the shot truck, how late in the 168 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.360 games? In the game book. Yeah, because we never see those things. 169 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.159 We just can go on and get the game book. They posted pretty 170 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.039 much right after the Internet. Okay, I don't want to use that to 171 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.480 go to the schedule where you get at the game. The game book is 172 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:54.399 there and that's got the shot chart. Okay. And I'm telling you this 173 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:58.000 program that we produces everything, and it's got a whole bunch of it's got 174 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.639 a whole bunch of other stuff. The shot chart is. I wanted to 175 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.919 make sure we ended on the most important news, in my opinion, of 176 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:09.639 the day when it comes to sports and uh journalism. Uh Sports Illustrated had 177 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:15.120 a huge amount of layoffs today and I wanted to see your guys opinion. 178 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:16.480 Obviously, you guys have been in this business for for a long time. 179 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:26.879 It was it was the new York Yankees of journalism or the whatever what you 180 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.320 know, whatever, the best team in it was. That's the you know, 181 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:33.480 you went, you went it, you went and worked at There's no 182 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.279 daily start because some day you wanted to work in sports illustry. You know, 183 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.960 we we all wanted that. But then it's fans, right. I 184 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.600 mean I was great shorts and they had access that we didn't have access to 185 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.200 the old sports illustriets. Okay, Jay Steven, you deal with the interviews. 186 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.600 We gotta take this guy back, yea, we gotta take you got 187 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.879 it. Sports Illustrated is here, you know. Uh and those guys, 188 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.679 you know, the guys who wrote the guys that the people who wrote for 189 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.960 that were you know, to us, they were celebrities. You know, 190 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.440 you go to a final four or a n C double a tournament and you 191 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.840 see this there's that's the Sports Illustrated guy. So so I sent you because 192 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.320 I told the story that Anthony and I started with them may even about four 193 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.759 or five years ago. So I sent Anthony a note in that time. 194 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:18.679 I said, see what was happening in s I says, yeah, weird 195 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:20.679 message. It's a weird messaging though, because if you read the story. 196 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.919 It's kind of gonna be defunct, but not really defunct. Somebody might buy 197 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.440 it again. Blah blah blah. Pat Forty says, not everyone is gone, 198 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.080 and they will still be doing a magazine, which is weird because you're 199 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.279 getting different news from these stories from today. I think that certain people are 200 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.879 going to try to buy it and still kind of do it. But have 201 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.240 you seen it lately. It's like the Sunday Paper. I mean, it's 202 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:48.399 really thin. I'm just an online subscriber now. I follow a certain writer. 203 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.240 Yeah, Pat Forty being one of those. I read that stuff. 204 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.039 So I'm an online subscriber. But you know I did. I did miss 205 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.480 the magazine. You know, you get on Monday mar Market, right, 206 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:07.879 you get on my near, the the the the NFL previews and the Major 207 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.799 League Baseball previews that would you would use for your fantasy drafts, all that 208 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:13.559 stuff. I mean, now, you know we grew up with that. 209 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.960 I remember. I remember. It's funny because remember I bought my dad we 210 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:24.159 got to get out of here to get I bought my dad a subscription to 211 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:30.159 Sports Illustrated for Christmas one year. But it was for me. 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Steve Rivera and Jacob Solis they 285 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:48.079 have their Eye on the Ball on Tucson's sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 286 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.559 Hey, welcome back to my the bucko Foxworts fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 287 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.240 Rovera. He's Jacob Jawis. We're trying to reach out to Yogi Runt for 288 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.680 our next interview, so we'll get back to you. I hope we didn't 289 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.119 get the time zones mixed up. You know. Yeah, there now an 290 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.799 hour off different from where we are, only three fifteen over there, so 291 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.559 right, but hopefully he'll call here in a couple of minutes. Okay, 292 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:18.000 So since we're you know, it just came across a. Florida is now 293 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.359 under investigation by the n C double a first of all football for some nil. 294 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:25.599 Well that's some Ani asked stuff for the recruitment of Jade and Rashata, 295 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.640 remember the kid. Yeah, they allegedly signed a big deal, big nil 296 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:36.039 deal and then the thirteen card and now he's at ASU. So he wasn't 297 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:41.000 that impressive as a freshman coming in. I was expecting a little more. 298 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.640 She didn't even play that much. Yeah, I don't know for that money, 299 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.880 I don't know would you get for thirteen million? Not much Okay. 300 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.480 You know, if somebody's gun and says I got ten million bucks for you, 301 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.240 don't you really think, come on, this can have to do Yeah, 302 00:20:56.240 --> 00:21:00.599 this can't. This can't be real. Where you kidnapping me? Uh 303 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.000 yeah, well guess what. The Florida job might be even more open now 304 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.240 than ever. Yeah, exactly, so, I you know, I I 305 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:10.160 don't know, but uh yeah, Okay, he's at a s U. 306 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:11.839 So all right, good luck to him. I hope it goes. We'll 307 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.599 see what happens with them. You got to think that there's gonna be a 308 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:19.599 bunch of ni L investigations, right, Yeah, even when it's legal, 309 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:26.839 it's not. There's certain things that there's certain intricacies to doing that, right 310 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:32.640 you know, if in fact Jedfish is over here or his somebody from representing 311 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.000 Washington is over here, you know, telling players they can get X or 312 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:41.440 they can get that, you know, how do you how do you monitor 313 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.039 that and how do you enforce whatever rules that are because there aren't a lot 314 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.400 of rules. Well, they did say that it's the wild, wild West, 315 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:53.720 and here we are front and center. Yeah, so I don't know, 316 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:59.039 I don't know, but yeah, so there and obviously the thing that. 317 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:02.799 The thing that came up right away was Okay, if if a billion 318 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:07.720 aper gets fired before the season starts, his Jed go, that's a legitimate 319 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.759 question. That's a legitimate question because who do we have on more? Is 320 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.599 it more? If something happens in the NFL? If Philly the film coach 321 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:21.559 gets right, what's to prevent him from the money compared to a protein where 322 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:25.200 the I mean, sure, sure, and you know what you say? 323 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:29.720 You knew that was a possibility. Yeah, yeah, he tiptoed the question. 324 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.720 He knew that. Funny funny that this conversation would come up, because 325 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:37.759 I just ran into a tweet that has Jedfish's buyout at at Washington if he 326 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:41.880 gets hired out before January eighth of twenty twenty five. It's twelve million dollars. 327 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:47.240 That's all that's between an NFL team's couch cushion, right, yeah, 328 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:51.640 I mean that that's in the ashtray in the car over there. Do you 329 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:57.960 know what an astray is? No? Don't holy what do you think? 330 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.039 I asked that was a good chance he was gonna say, summer there used 331 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:07.240 to be there used to be summer there used to be these little things in 332 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.480 the arm rests of all the cars, or if you're smoking a cigarette, 333 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:14.799 that's where you dropped your ashes or put your cigarettes, or you can have 334 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.440 them on the coffee table or or no, in the center console of the 335 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.160 car too. Well, but you know what, you plug in your stuff 336 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:22.759 too in your car. That used to be for cigarette lighters. That's why 337 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.599 I do you have one of those. That's where those came from. Those 338 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:33.119 are cigarette lighters. So now you win a trivia game some point, go 339 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.119 watch it, Go watch it. Go watch a great scene in this movie 340 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:41.279 called Man on Fire. But Denzel Washington uses cigarette lighters in a way it's 341 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.400 probably not so yeah, yeah, I remember that interesting stuff. Yeah, 342 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.599 well, well so we'll see. I mean, loyalty is only as good 343 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:55.039 as yesterday or the day before. Yeah, so he's moved a lot he 344 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:56.400 used to. But you know what, to tell you the truth we talked 345 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:02.880 about who called us yesterdya is it? Uh? It was uh Jim Jim. 346 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:07.920 I thought Jim was correct and both sides could be truthful. But he 347 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.559 came, he did what he wanted to do, He improved the program and 348 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.119 left. Thank you, Thanks ran right, thank you, and let's move 349 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.839 on. Yeah, I'm ready to move on. Yeah, I didn't want 350 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.839 to talk to Yobi Roth about it. I want to talk to him bit 351 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.839 yeah at his future. I mean obviously PAC twelve Networks is no longer. 352 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.920 Yeah. Yeah, see, and he's good. Yeah, so I'm sure 353 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:32.319 he'll sell somewhere. He's good, he's young, somebody will take him on, 354 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.400 you know. But you know, there's a lot of stuff going on. 355 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.160 We're coming up to the PAC twelve basketball tournament. That's sort of the 356 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:41.039 I know they do a baseball tournament, softball tournament, but you know, 357 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.839 basketball tournament is the last like major, huge, giant event. Yeah. 358 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.359 You know, I'm thinking that they're probably going to lose a bunch of people 359 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.759 after that, right unless the PAC twelve, of the PAC twelve as it 360 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.599 stands with the PAC two brings in. Well, they did already have the 361 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.680 Mountain West tournament there, right, so yeah, we might have to go 362 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:03.000 see that too. No, it'll be the same time as there's the Big 363 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.519 twelve five. Well, we just have to save our money to get to 364 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:10.119 kansasitye to Kansas City. You can't drive there, no, No, I'm 365 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:14.640 sure we could get it planned away. I like Kansas City yeah, I've 366 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:15.799 been there once. Well, i've been there. The one thing it was 367 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.160 like forty years ago, but still it was fun. Yeah, great barbecue 368 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:25.640 there. Yeah, okay, all right, let's go back. Well, 369 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:27.000 if you guys want to call, we have a still well I don't know, 370 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.640 should we will? No, let's not tie up the fox. We're 371 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.759 waiting for Yoga to call. Must have got tied up with something. So 372 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.880 and if we don't get him today, we'll get him another day. But 373 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.640 we do have Matt Othic coming in at four thirty five because there is a 374 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.440 basketball game tomorrow, basketball game that, under normal circumstances, everybody will be 375 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.119 talking about, right the l and they did beat the issue, They did 376 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:55.640 the road. Did you see the Bobby Hurley rant after that? How many 377 00:25:55.640 --> 00:26:00.480 texted did they have in that game? Asue five? Five technical falls five? 378 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.200 He was a tony one ten and thought we're the bad guy, the 379 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:10.400 bad guys. But yeah, but he's he's certainly entertaining, you know. 380 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:11.720 He see he gets in front of us at the you know, at the 381 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:17.440 games here Kale and you go, does he converse with you guys? No, 382 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.480 No, no, he doesn't know because the people behind him won't let 383 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:25.039 him talk about they raged on last year's was classic. Yeah, they rag 384 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:30.400 on him relentlessly last year. He came back and said he I got you 385 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.079 got it? Did he did? O? Yog? You just uh said, 386 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.240 he'll be calling us here in just a second for a few minutes, 387 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:44.519 about ten minutes so just about but uh no he uh no, you know 388 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.359 it's it was. It was vintage Bobby Hurley and then he was a lot 389 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.680 like that as a player too. You know, he was always, you 390 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.480 know, very demonstrative on the court. Let me just put it that way, 391 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.279 you know, on the court. So his brother has done a great 392 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:02.480 job, but he's done very well and they're number one right now. Very 393 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:06.680 good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know it's uh basically to 394 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.480 see when I SU comes to town this time, because I think Arizona will 395 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.519 be ready for that if they're not. If they're not, Yeah, what's 396 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:15.920 have you seen a line on the UCLA game for no? In fact, 397 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.319 that's a good question. Yeah, I would assume it's like fifteen sixteen, 398 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.799 given that U s U A didn't cover against you a C and they've been 399 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.440 pretty good at covering teams, especially at home. Yeah, I didn't think 400 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:32.480 Arizona was going to cover the nineteen too much, too much. I thought 401 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.240 it was too much, and not because I didn't think they're playing well. 402 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:37.440 I just thought that was too big of a point spread for a PAC twelve 403 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.880 game. Uh, you know, I really, I really didn't think. 404 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:49.160 I'm gonna check right now. I'm gonna check right now. So anyway, 405 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.480 so yeah, still wait for Yugi Roth here. He should be here any 406 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.559 second. We'll we'll catch him. Just get some some his thoughts on Brent 407 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.920 Brandon. He's very you know, he knows all these guys they run in, 408 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.720 you know, covering West Coast to sports. I think I saw, 409 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.799 you know, like one of the first things he put out was that he 410 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.559 really liked jet Fish and he really likes break. Yeah. Well, these 411 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.079 guys in that their business, they like everybody because they have to. They're 412 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:21.680 not they're not they're not print journalists. Uh, we'd have to ask you 413 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:25.200 do you like him? I know I'm talking I'm about I'm asking you did 414 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.480 you like him? At the game? I didn't know. I didn't know 415 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.640 him. I still didn't know him. I told you about my interaction with 416 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.400 him at the dentist because we had the same Dennis, but it was indifferent, 417 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.319 so indifferent, so in different and Jed too. I was just you 418 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:41.720 know, I didn't ask very many questions. You didn't ask very many questions. 419 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.880 We asked what we asked, and I didn't get attested. And I 420 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.240 think the guys is the star have to because they're the beat guys. But 421 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:53.920 no, I have to say, I'm I was indifferent. But I mean, 422 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.920 I'm talking about the TV guys because you got a smooth to get the 423 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.799 inside scoop. Yeah, you gotta be able to talk to those guys, 424 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.000 you know, and when you're talking and get what you need to get for 425 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.720 your coverage. Exactly because during the game you said, well, in the 426 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.480 in the team meetings or in the in the coaches meetings, this is what 427 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:12.599 they told us. No, I hear you, I hear you. Okay, 428 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.279 So all right, I'm gonna try to find that points for okay, 429 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:21.039 And well, I'm uh, I know what to tell you here with with 430 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:22.960 Yogi, so he says he said he was gonna call him a moment. 431 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.079 Wait, yeah, because then we have a right out of time if we 432 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.799 have, we got mad Othic coming up, so we can get them. 433 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.000 Why don't you just text him. We will get them on Monday, because 434 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.960 we've got to go to break here in about a minute or so, uh 435 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.200 to get our commercials in and then come back with because it's no rush with 436 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.279 yoga, you know, get them on Monday. Yeah, all types off. 437 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.359 Okay, Okay, you go to the game tour, I assume you 438 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.240 are. Yeah, yeah, I'll be there. I try to go to 439 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.839 most of them, most of the home games here. I have yet to 440 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.640 travel to a game that's on my list though, as well. You better 441 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.599 go to the issue game. You'll get a final ticket. You yeah, 442 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.640 come up with me. Okay, he just he's just right. We'll do 443 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:10.759 it Monday. Yeah, yeah, all right, that'll be better. Yeah, 444 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.759 we don't we don't want to rush it, right, Okay, I'm 445 00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:21.839 still I'm getting to the point of the game. Maybe not, Okay, 446 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.400 let's go to break. Yeah, okay, well let's let's let's yeah, 447 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.640 let's let's head to the break. We'll come back, we'll have we'll get 448 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.880 to Matt Ethic and Yogi's responding to me here, so we'll get yoga at 449 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.599 four fifteen again on Monday and get you know, maybe some stuff happens over 450 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.400 the weekend, so we'll see it, all right. We'll be right back 451 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:45.519 Matt othic Uh for your Letterman in Arizona ninety eight, ninety nine, eighty 452 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.359 nine to ninety two. Yeah, eighteen points eighteen. Wow, that's a 453 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:53.680 lot. All right, We'll be right back with Mattothen. 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Good to be with you 502 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:31.480 guys, and today it seems like you're the motivator guy. Yeah, yeah, 503 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.519 I was. Uh. I got to go to practice today and talk 504 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.360 to the team after. It was great. So what does Matt Othick tell 505 00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:45.800 these guys? Oh, I just talked about that. The team reminds me 506 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.960 of a couple of our teams. They have size, and they have guards. 507 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.400 They they got there, they're the whole package. And you know, 508 00:34:53.440 --> 00:35:00.119 I just talked to him about going after it and staying connected and U you 509 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.440 know, it's it's easy to stay connected when things are good, but when 510 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:08.079 things get tough, sometimes it's hard to stay connected. I thought that was 511 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:15.280 really important and and just stuff of that nature, but really just complimented, 512 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.920 you know, the team, and I love I just love the team. 513 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.920 I love this team, I love the coaching staff, and it was it 514 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:27.800 was a great opportunity for me. How much did you talk about the UCLA 515 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.639 rivalry because you almost feel like, I know, it was kind of huge 516 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:35.880 last year, but over the years, maybe the last ten years, I 517 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.840 don't know if it's been as intense as it was, you know, during 518 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:44.239 your time later in the you know, late nineties, early two thousands, 519 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.039 it seems like it's lost some of its intensity, maybe because Oregon has come 520 00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.360 along and been better and stuff like that. I don't know. But how 521 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.280 much were you able to, you know, give them about the rivalry. 522 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:59.679 Yeah, so that's that's how I kind of closed it with the UCLA rivalry 523 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:05.719 and talked about how Derek Martin hit that last second shot to end the home 524 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.239 win streak and my undefeated at home streak. Right, So that's the only 525 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.679 game I lost in my career was that game. So I asked him to 526 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.920 get one for me. No, that's true. But you know, let's 527 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.840 we've had you on the show a number of times before, but talk about 528 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:27.920 the circumstances of that game as it pertains to you, because I know, 529 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.280 yeah, I mean, that was a tough one. It was. I 530 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.960 had foul trouble in that game and had four fouls at the end of the 531 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.800 game and ended up not being in the game on the last place. So 532 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.239 that was really tough for me because Derek Martin was a big rival of mine 533 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:52.119 all through high school and then and and coach actually had Totto Meyer on him 534 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:53.320 and at that time, Damon was little, you know, he was a 535 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:59.599 freshman and pretty pretty small, and Martin took him down about twelve feet and 536 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:07.280 shot right over him and the rest is Historyard. I can still picture Derek 537 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.119 Martin and like just what he looked like when you let the shots go to 538 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:14.280 the right in front of me, and I'm looking like man, and it 539 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.079 was right right, Yeah, it was in the minute he let it go, 540 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.079 no doubt about that. Yeah, you could see what was going in. 541 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:28.079 I remember him hopping around the court like a frog, like sticks of 542 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:37.760 my like a thorn in my side. Keep it keep your So you mentioned 543 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.440 you love this this team. What what do you love about this team? 544 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.039 You know, I think they're really versatile. They have uh, you know, 545 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.800 they've got great quickness and and they also have bigs. They got guys 546 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.960 that can shoot, they can defend. They you know, they really are 547 00:37:54.400 --> 00:38:00.159 they really are a well balanced team. You know, I think people get 548 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.679 a little hung up on on losses in conference on the road. I mean, 549 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.840 it's it's really hard to go on the road and win in conference, 550 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:15.239 especially you know, they played one one dud game at Stanford and but losing 551 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.800 the game at Washington State was was not a horrible loss. I mean, 552 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:22.719 Washington State's now playing really well. I think they won three or four in 553 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.800 a row, and so you know you're going to have those moments in conference. 554 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.920 You know, It's just that's why nobody ever goes undefeated, right. 555 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.719 I just think they'll get it together. I think, you know, they 556 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.360 may take one or two more losses, but I really believe in this team, 557 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:42.840 and I believe that, you know, we can win the Pac twelve 558 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.239 and move on and possibly win a national title. So the coach you mentioned 559 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:51.599 that, Tommy mentioned that the games will be continue our hopes to continue with 560 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.760 UCLA and the Arizona, but it's been a story career. You must have 561 00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.400 been sad when you heard that the PAC twelve is no longer gonna happened, 562 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:05.599 especially induscible. Yeah, it is. It's it's really sad. It's a 563 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:09.239 sad I mean, rivalries are what makes sports, and I just I'm not 564 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:14.119 It's hard to wrap my head around what they're what they've done here, you 565 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:19.840 know, the centigrating a great conference and it's too bad. You know, 566 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.199 who knows what's going to happen down the road. It wouldn't shock me if 567 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:28.360 the Fact twelve came back in a few years. Wow. Interesting. Well, 568 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.599 you know, you never know because you know, again whatever the TV, 569 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.719 whatever TV wants to happen, is what will happen. I mean, 570 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.360 put yourself in the Big twelve though, you know, if you're going to 571 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.440 playing you know Kansas and Houston and you know Baylor and Texas Tech and all 572 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.320 the you know these programs that have been you know, at the top of 573 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.000 the at the top of the heap. Uh, you know for quite a 574 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.559 while now, how much fun would that be? Well, I think it's 575 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.599 going to be great, you know, it's just different because they're the rivalries 576 00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.159 aren't there. You're you're starting over, you know, like, Okay, 577 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.559 we're playing Houston. They're great, but we've never played them really before. 578 00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:07.599 We've only played them a couple of times in the recent history. So the 579 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.199 games will be great. I mean, they're they're they're great teams in that 580 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.639 in that league. And I still feel it's gonna be difficult for these these 581 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:21.800 West Coast teams to be traveling all over the place. And uh, I 582 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:23.519 think it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard, you know, more 583 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:29.400 for some of these other sports than even basketball. It's gonna be crazy for 584 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.719 some of these sports. Yeah. So so we all know the rivalry with 585 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.880 u C. L A. I can't off the top of my head, 586 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.920 I can't remember some of the guys from UCLA who played against you. You 587 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.559 talk about Derek Martin, Uh, there's others. Uh In Tracy Murray, 588 00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:44.119 I can't remember if he was we were talking, Yeah, Tracy Murray, 589 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.599 Don McClain, who was the all time leading scorer in Pact twelve history. 590 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.119 Uh, my senior year. So that was they had great teams at that 591 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.960 time, the great ones before with with Miller and all the other guys got 592 00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.280 Zurich. I think it may have been a year time. I can't remember. 593 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.039 But now you you know, you're a southern California businessman, so be 594 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.920 careful what you say here. Are you? Are you still friends? Are 595 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.880 you with friends with any all of them? Are you not friends with any 596 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.760 of them? Or how is that? I am? Yeah, I'm I'm 597 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.559 real friendly with a few of them, very you know, I've known McClain 598 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:21.039 since high school. Don McClain and Tracy Murray is an unbelievable good guy. 599 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.719 Been friends with him a long time after I left Arizona. I mean I 600 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.440 competed against these guys in high school, so I had prior relationships with them. 601 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:35.559 But when they were when they were U c. L A. Colors, 602 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.400 I don't like him very much. Well, let me ask you that 603 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.920 because and this goes back. I think even before you got here, you 604 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.119 know, when I was covering the team and the rivalry was huge, you 605 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.719 know then, and I remember I was at I was at Michale, UCLA 606 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.320 was coming in for their shoot around and Arizona was walking on Arizona guys were 607 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.159 walking off the court. So this would have been the I remember, God, 608 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.440 there's a guy I can't think of his name, but smoking. But 609 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.760 you know, they walked on the court and there's some guys are walking off 610 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.880 the court and they're all shaking hands and hugging and saying hey, and you 611 00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.159 know, they were all really friendly with each other. I'm thinking, wait 612 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:14.360 a minute, I thought you guys hated each other and and and they really 613 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:19.360 didn't talk about those relationships when you're playing against them. Yeah. I was 614 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.320 never that way with I just I'd never I kind of had the Larry Bird 615 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:29.519 the way he thought like he didn't he didn't make friends with anyone. I 616 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.239 didn't really want to be friendly with anyone until after I was done playing. 617 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.440 Yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. Who was your Who's your 618 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.639 friendliest guy? Was it Marie Tracy? You know your your friends back then? 619 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.079 I'd say, yeah, probably Tracy Murray. He had a relationship. 620 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:53.000 He actually played against Wayne Walmack and was really close with him. So I 621 00:42:53.719 --> 00:43:01.239 kind of became friendly with Tracy probably first him and Don McLean. Oh everybody 622 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:07.840 hated that. Well, he was the he was the villain. If you 623 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.800 remember he he would he talked a lot of maths and uh, but he 624 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.039 could back it up. That guy could back it up. So but we 625 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:21.280 had some great, great rival great games with those guys over the years because 626 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.039 we I don't think everyone was going to go to UCLA this year and everyone 627 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.440 talks about Paulie and the mystique, but I don't think, I know, 628 00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.880 having been there for twenty three years with covering you guys, to me, 629 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.280 it was a mistique. It was just that it was Paulie and it had 630 00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.480 all the had all this stuff on the you know, the rafters and all 631 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.159 that. But to me, it was kind of like a stale, stale 632 00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:45.400 situation outside of your game, outside of this game. Yeah, it was. 633 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:47.880 I never it was nothing like McHale. No, I mean, no 634 00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.760 tail was rocking and that place was realiant. You're right, it was pretty 635 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.039 quiet. Some of that could have been we beat him up there most of 636 00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.480 the time, so maybe that's why they were quiet. Right. Well, 637 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.719 it's funny because we were having a conversation about, you know, favorite games 638 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.199 in the rivalry, you know, top games in the rivalry. The ninety 639 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.079 two game, you know, the loss was one, the game where Selim 640 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:15.440 Start hit that eighty foot three pointer was one over a flalow there was the 641 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:22.599 one in eighty nine in LA where Sean Elliott hit a fallaway jumper at the 642 00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.000 buzzer to get it to overtime. Then they won in overtime. Those games 643 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.840 stick out. Which one stuck out for you, even whether you played them 644 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:34.320 or not. Well, the one that stuck out for me was at UCLA 645 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:38.519 in ninety one. It was a huge game, and well, yeah, 646 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:44.079 Brian Williams had a huge game and we were actually down two with five or 647 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:47.360 six seconds to go. Khalid Reeves drove the length of the floor, tried 648 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.119 to pass it, it got deflected to Chris Mills and he threw it in 649 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.000 at the buzzer and we beat him in overtime. So that one was another 650 00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.840 one that was unbelievable, right, with a big win for us that year. 651 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:01.880 Yeah, you have no question. It's always good to win those huge 652 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.400 games. There's god, there's so many of them, right, yeah, 653 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.159 so many of them, and they won their fair share. Yeah, yeah, 654 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:13.400 no, they did. I did, but we we got the best 655 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.199 of them through from eighty from when I was there. I think we were 656 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.559 nine and three or eight and three against them. But they did beat my 657 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:22.199 senior year. They beat us both games. So let me ask you, 658 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:27.559 because Luke always thought or his his muncha was every game was as important as 659 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.360 the next, nothing was special. But do you really believe that, especially 660 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:37.199 when it came to this one? You know? Uh yeah, I mean 661 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.800 this game was big. No matter what Lot said or anyone else. When 662 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.400 we played U C. L A. It meant more. You know, 663 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:46.360 we we did not want to lose to those guys. We wanted to you 664 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.079 know, show them who the boss was in the fact ten at the time. 665 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.280 Yeah, yeah, those less fun. Let me we have some time 666 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.599 here, but I'll be a little selfish. And I know we've talked about 667 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:59.559 this on the show with you with the book, Uh, you were instrumental 668 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:06.079 and something that hadn't happened in years was you brought back a Loot and Tarkanian 669 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.719 to be to have a great photo that was in the book and that relationship. 670 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:15.000 Could you explain how that happened? So I was at the I was 671 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:20.280 at the Delmar Race track and they just both happened to be there, and 672 00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.440 I said, you know, what better time to try and get them together 673 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:27.599 and see if I can get them to take a picture with me. And 674 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.400 they both agreed and had a nice conversation, so I thought it was a 675 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:36.679 pretty cool picture. And Cedric Dempsey was there as well, which was was 676 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.880 really cool. Okay, right right, because you know the history there was 677 00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.840 three guys, man, it was three huge was you know, they didn't 678 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.480 like each other. They didn't like each other exactly, and you brought them 679 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.960 together. I don't know if they had been friendly up until that point, 680 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.320 but that was a photo after people knowing the history of the two of the 681 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:58.239 two. Yeah, I think it was pretty cool to be able to bridge 682 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.400 those two together. I respect both of them tremendously, and it was it 683 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.400 was it was a fun, fun day, all right. So so going 684 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.360 into tomorrow, you know, what do you think, what do you want 685 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:14.159 to see and what do you make of the UCLA program? Now? Yeah, 686 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:20.000 well I think you know that they're really young and UCLA started slow. 687 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.239 They're starting to play better now, so you know, I just I hope 688 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.840 we I don't think we will overlook Ucla, but I think we're a pretty 689 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.440 pretty big favorite. So I just hope we come out and execute. You 690 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:36.119 know. I was able to get to watch practice today and I think we're 691 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.719 ready. Yeah. Okay, well that's what people want. It just seems 692 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.119 like it'd been a little sluggish last couple of games. You mentioned the Washington 693 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.199 State game they lost. But you know, I think people kind of expect 694 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.199 that Arizona just runs through the league. And I don't know if the vision 695 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.599 of the league is tainted by the fact that UCLA and USC aren't very good, 696 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:59.199 but these other teams clearly are better than we think. Yeah, that's 697 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.920 I think that true. I think everyone expected us to walk to the league. 698 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.280 You know, I really didn't as good as we are. I thought 699 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.400 we would stumble in a couple of places. It's just it's just part of 700 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:14.800 it's part of the game. I mean, it's it's so hard to go 701 00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:16.800 on the road and win every game. It just is. It's it's very 702 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.519 difficult. And you know, they're this this team is still getting better, 703 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.159 and they're they're gonna have some some growing pains, and you know, they 704 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.039 didn't play great in a couple of those games, but I think they're gonna 705 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:35.159 get it together. They got a great group, and I'm excited about the 706 00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.559 future and a big enough game tomorrow to bring you back in town. Seriously, 707 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:45.639 Yeah, I'm excited to be back in town and yeah, it was 708 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.559 a special day to day to get to talk to the team. No, 709 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.719 cool, cool, Well, thank you very much, Matt, and we'll 710 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.519 see you at the game tomorrow. That sounds great. Guys, have a 711 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.920 great day. Thank you so much. Thanks very much. I appreciate it. 712 00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.480 We're still not going to break with come up from a couple of mins 713 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.239 out of here, big game. It just kind of fell on top of 714 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.840 us on this bit. Well again, we've just you know, it's all 715 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.920 been, you know been. But it's a it's a huge game, big 716 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:13.559 point spread. You he's not very good. I'm if I had to bet 717 00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.639 it, I'm not going to take it over under ull. He's gonna come 718 00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:22.480 in fired up that I might go over. Yeah, but likes to slow 719 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:23.800 it down, you know that. I don't know. They got a score 720 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.320 for you. They got a score. Yeah, I don't know. I 721 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.559 don't know. If you put an ife to my throat whatever, I probably 722 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.159 take the points because that's a lot coming. And as you said, if 723 00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.760 you say if if there's not a lot of scoring, it's gonna be harder 724 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.119 to cover the right Let me say we have two minutes here. Tell me 725 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.639 all week we have some good shows where can they find us? Right? 726 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.599 Okay, you can catch us on the podcast. It'll be up there. 727 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:52.159 Even I'm driving up to Phoenix tonight. I'm going to catch the Eagles at 728 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.639 the Footprint Center. The podcast will get up probably, it'll be up within 729 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.079 the hour after the show. You can catch any of our any of our 730 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.920 shows from this week. We had the nine ten Minutes with Brent Brent Brennan 731 00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:08.239 uh in the first hour today. So go to go to iHeart the iHeart 732 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.880 app I Heeart website, search I on the Ball. Go to Spotify, 733 00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.079 go to Apple Podcasts, search I on the Ball and you'll find us. 734 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.519 And you can catch any of the shows that we did this week. And 735 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.320 I would love to hear your thoughts follow us. I have not had were 736 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.039 being every day is a good day. People are listening to every think that 737 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.760 there's a lot of people out there. We even had somebody I had somebody 738 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:37.280 tech me saying, what's Jake Fisher going to be on Brother? No it 739 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.280 wasn't, but yeah, so you know, any day you can go back 740 00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.639 as far back as you want to catch up. Previous shows are just Google 741 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.960 google the name. Can they put a well in the search in the search 742 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.079 on neither of those apps. Search Eye on the Ball and you'll find us 743 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.239 and you see our logo, uh the Iron the Ball logo that is on 744 00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:59.239 there, and you'll we break up the show so you can listen to an 745 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:00.920 hour at a time. You don't have to put on the whole thing. 746 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.760 U. We we do a little summary of the show in the in the 747 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.360 inext, so you know what's on that in that segment. Well, it's 748 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.800 a good weekend. Thank you for being here. Fun. Yeah, man, 749 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:15.000 I am hoping by Monday this thing is gone. Yeah. Well well 750 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:20.920 no, I hope we know something who's going to be coaching a little yeah, 751 00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:22.599 you know, a little piece of me says that, uh T Mac 752 00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.800 and Fefida and and and Manu and all the bat football team runs out on 753 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.840 the court and they all say we're staying. Well tomorrow, yeah tomorrow, 754 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.719 we decided to stay. Thanks everybody, Bert, thanks for that catch exactly 755 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.800 throwing dollar bills. Thanks for making a rain on the football players. All 756 00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.280 right, we're out here. Have a great weekend, everybody. We hope 757 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.079 you enjoyed the show all week Yogi Roth will be back on Monday, so 758 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:50.400 we'll get Yogi and we'll get his take on Brent Brandon, uh coming, 759 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.079 uh coming to our ownself. Be back on Monday. Have a great weekend