1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,719 This is London Calling, London Calling. Welcome, good afternoon to everyone. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:14,080 Not so good for me, but good for for Carlos. Um. I 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:19,960 have to start obviously with praises to to Carlos and to his team. Amazing. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,359 What a quality in the end of the match too, when you had 5 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:26,559 to serve it out you you came up with some big serves and big place 6 00:00:26,719 --> 00:00:39,399 or you deserve it. Absolutely congratulation, amazing, amazing, Welcome to London 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,359 calling with me James Danning Poe and my very good friend mister Taby Young. 8 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,039 Now terms, as you can probably see in the background, UM, I 9 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:55,640 am on holiday in on Oleg Deripaska's yacht. Um. We're touring the Baltic 10 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,560 with with luminous that I can't name, and it's just amazing. You know, 11 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:07,000 we'll have kind of prostitutes flown in from from Moscow's Boris Johnson there. 12 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,239 I you might think that I couldn't possibly say I'm not telling you whether George 13 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,480 Osborne's here either, because that would be giving the game away. Um. 14 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:19,760 And as for but mind you, I will treated to one thing. You 15 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:26,680 should see Klaus Shrub's outfit. He's wearing that that transparent you know that his 16 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:30,040 beach wear. Um, it's it's something to be, something to behold. 17 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,640 How about you? I can see I can see from the background from your 18 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,159 room. Are you still in Nibitha? No, I'm not. I'm I'm 19 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,640 I've I've I came back to London and now I've flown back out to the 20 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,640 Blairic Islands, this time accompanied by my family, and I'm in ma Yorker. 21 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:53,200 Can I ask you something? A friend of my daughters has gone out 22 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,239 to ma Yorker recently, and whether you whether you've gone to the same party. 23 00:01:57,959 --> 00:02:01,439 She went with her mother to what she assumed was what they were told 24 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:07,439 was going to be a big fireworks party, and instead people were wearing horns 25 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:13,479 and sort of masks and things and prances. It was an eyes wide shut 26 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,800 party. It was. It was. It was in the streets and she's 27 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,879 that They said, you know, what are the fireworks? Fireworks? Later 28 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,199 the woman said, what's this about? We killed God, That's what she 29 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,400 said. We killed God. So so she she in the height of the 30 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:37,479 tourist season somewhere in New Yorker and nowhere is holding this satanic festival here? 31 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:40,199 James, Yeah, that's why I've flown out for that. Yeah, you 32 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:46,680 don't surprise me. Um, yeah, I'll tell you a few travel horror 33 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,840 stories. So um, I don't think I told you this last week, 34 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,719 but or maybe I did and I'd forgotten, but now tell me on our 35 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:59,080 way to a beat. So I was in a pub in Highgate because a 36 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:07,199 friend of mine all organized an impromptu fortieth anniversary yet reunion for the class of 37 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:13,199 eighty three at William Mellot's school I went to in North London Schools. School 38 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,039 never organized as anything even approaching a reunion, so we decided to organize one 39 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,599 ourselves. And so I was in the middle of this pub. All these 40 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,520 people I hadn't seen for like forty years were kind of showing up, and 41 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:30,919 I discovered that British Airways had canceled my flight to a Bitha the following morning. 42 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:36,879 Well, I went to check in, you know, before everyone, 43 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,000 or I'd got there about ten minutes early, and decided I'd use that time 44 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,120 to check in on the British Airways app because it was less than twelve hours 45 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,280 before the flight, less than twenty four hours before the flight, and I 46 00:03:49,319 --> 00:03:52,719 couldn't check in. Now that that wasn't a definitive sign that something had gone 47 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:55,400 awry, because the British Airways app barely worked at the best of times anyway, 48 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,280 So I went on the British Airways website and discovered that the flight had 49 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:03,719 been canceled no notification from BA, possibly because I booked it through Air Iberia, 50 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,599 don't ask anyway. So then I then had to embark on this mad 51 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:14,240 dash while surrounded by people I hadn't seen for forty years wanting to talk to 52 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,759 me, to try and get another two tickets the following day out to a 53 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,879 bether and of course I was competing with all the people that have been binned 54 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,000 off this flight that had just been canceled, so it was like, you 55 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,519 know, it was really hard. Anyway, we managed to get a flight 56 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,120 out of East Midland's airport the following day, which was no picnic because you 57 00:04:32,199 --> 00:04:36,240 know, intermittent train strikes getting there would have been great for me, great 58 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:41,240 for you. Yeah, and actually East Midlands Airport is quite a nice airport, 59 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,879 turns out, but we managed to We managed to get out there, 60 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:54,399 and but Caroline called Air Iberia and asked for a refund for the outbound canceled 61 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:59,639 flight, which proved suspiciously easy to get, you know, only she was 62 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,680 only on hold for like fifteen minutes, maybe twenty, and it was surprisingly 63 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:06,720 frictionless for a kind of you know, travel emergency in this daurn age. 64 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,600 But we discovered actually we were right to be suspicious because when we were then 65 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:16,120 returning from a Betha we had to quete. We again couldn't check in using 66 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,480 the BA app not a definitive sign barely works, so we had to queue 67 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:26,600 for an hour to check in to the British Airways flight at a Betha airport. 68 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,759 By the time we get to the head of the queue, talk to 69 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,920 the checking plot, Oh, no, your tickets on this flight have been 70 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:34,399 canceled. You should have been fully refunded. And it turned out that Air 71 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:40,680 Iberia had canceled both legs of the flight outbound and inbound, so we couldn't 72 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,240 get on the British Airways flight, and we couldn't buy a ticket on that 73 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:46,639 flight because it was about to close because we've been queuing for an hour to 74 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:48,480 check in. Yeah, so we then had we had to Then it was 75 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,439 like again kind of mad scramble. All these people that have been you know, 76 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,279 bend off oversold flights. It was like trying to get everyone trying to 77 00:05:57,319 --> 00:05:59,800 get out of a beef. Everyone really hung over, all partied out, 78 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,040 need to get back to London, and really hard to get a flight which 79 00:06:03,079 --> 00:06:06,600 didn't have a layover in Munich, you know, or Madrid where you'd have 80 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:10,839 to spend the night. It was like trying to get the last chopper out 81 00:06:10,879 --> 00:06:14,959 of Saigon, you know. Yeah, And eventually we get the last two 82 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:18,920 seats on a Ryan Air flight that gets into Standstad at ten pm. Costs 83 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:26,079 nearly seven hundred pounds, and that was too late to get the connection with 84 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:29,759 Elizabeth Line from Liverpool Streets. We had to get an uber home from Stanstead. 85 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,360 You know, we're talking approaching a thousand pounds now sort of additional costs. 86 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:39,720 But I can barely be fagged to actually lodge a compensation claim with Air 87 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,959 Iberia because the number of if you if you, if you, if you 88 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,160 divide the total amount that I'm seeking by the number of hours it'll take to 89 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:47,680 secure it, I'll end up being paid less than the minimum wage. So 90 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:55,319 that's not going to be so. But the okay flying out to Mayorka was 91 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,120 not quite so bad because we decided to go the cheapest possible option and just 92 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,600 fly out from Stanstead on Ryan Air to Palmer. And it turns out you 93 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:06,720 won't believe this, James, I didn't believe It's like I checked it. 94 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:13,839 But actually Ryan Air is now twelve times more reliable than British Airways. So 95 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:18,600 in twenty twenty two, British Airways canceled three point five percent of flights I 96 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,879 think out of the UK, whereas Ryan Air canceled just zero point three percent. 97 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,360 I mean, it's come to something when the national carrier is twelve times 98 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:32,879 less reliable than Ryan Bloody Air. Anyway, so the flight out of Stanstead 99 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:36,079 to Palma wasn't canceled. But when we got off the flight and arrived at 100 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:41,920 kind of border control in Mayorka, my eighteen year old son discovered that he 101 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,519 didn't have his passport and he immediately tried to blame me. So I gave 102 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,240 it to you, Dad, I'd give it to you to look after it, 103 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:51,720 which of course they always do, they always always do. Yeah, 104 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,480 And it turned out it had fallen out of his one of his capacious tracky 105 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:03,759 bottom pockets on the plane, and so we kind of we sort of in 106 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:09,319 a panic, try to kind of retrace our footsteps, kind of fighting against 107 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,680 the tide of disembarking passengers eventually could go no further. Official kind of blocked 108 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:15,560 us. Where are you going? He can't get back on the flight. 109 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,000 You know, it's about to be boarded by passengers going back to London. 110 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,920 It was my son's lost his passport. He must have left it on the 111 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,360 plane to anyone handing anything in and eventually we and you know, then we 112 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:28,199 have a kind of agonizing weight and my son's thinking, oh no, I'm 113 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,000 going to have to go back to London. I have to be on my 114 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,840 own for ten days. And I'm thinking we'd be lucky if you get back 115 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:37,440 in the house you arrive at you know, UK border control. Without a 116 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:43,000 passport, you might end up in a detention center and you know, hazes 117 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,480 or harms Harmon's work, and that'll learn him look gartas possible after that. 118 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:56,759 But anyway, then a flight attendant appeared kind of waiving the passport, smiling 119 00:08:56,799 --> 00:08:58,919 at us, and turned out they'd actually found it. They had been handed 120 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:03,600 in by It was that the Christians. What No, it wasn't the Christian 121 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,200 sun, No, it wasn't. It was the older one. Anyway. 122 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,039 So so that was the only that's the only disaster that's befallen us so far. 123 00:09:09,159 --> 00:09:16,559 But having said that, there is an orange alert for Wednesday, which 124 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,519 is, you know, a severe heat warning. So that's when the temperature 125 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,120 is expected to be between forty and forty five degrees centigrade. Ye, so 126 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:28,440 that of course my kids just want to head straight for the beach and just 127 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,200 going to fry um and I'm honor them to put on the sun cream and 128 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,519 stay on the shade. It's the usual family dynamics. I'm feeling your your 129 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,360 your relaxation, and it looks looks a really nice villea you've got that it 130 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:45,919 actually the villa is really nice. Yeah. How do you do you get 131 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 free bits? Do you do? Do you get travel articles or do you 132 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:52,240 get some off airbnb or what? No, we got it off Airbnb? 133 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,799 Um but um, and no it's not free. I wish it was. 134 00:09:56,399 --> 00:10:01,080 No. Money is just being hoovered out of my pockets since I arrived, 135 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,840 and I'm going to be completely fleeced by the time I get back on the 136 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:11,120 plane to return to London. Why did you choose me, Yoka? Well, 137 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:15,000 we kind of we had a we stupidly, my wife and I asked 138 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:18,279 our children where they'd like to go. So that just got four kids, 139 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:24,039 all teenagers. They just kind of couldn't agree endless, you know, dinner 140 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:30,320 time arguments. My my my Christian son formerly Christian son, Freddie he wanted 141 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:37,360 to go to Japan. My daughter Sasha that, yeah, how it has 142 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,000 already cost us? End How many of you are the seven of you to 143 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:43,879 Japan? Six of us? Yeah, yeah, very extend that would work. 144 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,480 At one point, we're looking at Kenya and my friend Aiden, who 145 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,279 spent most of the time in Kenya, he did he did find as someone 146 00:10:52,360 --> 00:11:00,600 renting a house in on the kind of on the coast um near Lamo, 147 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:07,399 but anyway, Lama near Niar Mombassa. And but the flights a loan were 148 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,039 a thousand pounds each um, so that wasn't really that yeah. And also 149 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,200 then you get you get kidnapped by um Somali pirates and health hostage fruit mind 150 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:20,759 you save on the on the bills at home, wouldn't it if you being 151 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:26,480 kept in a in a in a hut and fed on goat for a year? 152 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,799 But that's true? Do you think they yeah, I mean, do 153 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:31,759 you think when they when they ask for the ransom. They also kind of 154 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:39,039 factor in kind of you know, accommodation lodging, Bordon lodging. Yeah, 155 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,919 I would, I would hope. So if they're canny, as I imagine 156 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,679 Somali pirates are, and also if you're reaching goat, you're going full carnival, 157 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,720 aren't you. I mean, you're not going to get any that's true. 158 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:52,279 Might be tough on my my wife and daughter, both of them, 159 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:58,159 the vegetarians. I think that force measure, that's the phrase I'm looking for, 160 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,240 might might alter that. Yeah, obviously I'm still preoccupied as dark we'll 161 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,759 just talk about at the moment. Can I just say though, that all 162 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:09,519 the things that you think in your anecdote there you think of as this kind 163 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:16,080 of random things that have happened to you this summer, it's all deliberate. 164 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:22,080 It's all that the war on travel is not accidental. And it may seem 165 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:26,639 old that British Airways is conspiring it in its own demise, but I think, 166 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:31,080 but I believe it probably is. I believe all the airlines are ultimately 167 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,799 in on this because they've had they've been given the nod from upstairs. Air 168 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:41,759 Travel is toasts, and we want it as a preliminary to stopping us, 169 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:43,000 you know, locking us up in our fifteen minutes. It is what they 170 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,840 want to do, is so in the idea in our heads that the idea 171 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:50,440 we don't even want to travel because the experience is so grueling and unpleasant and 172 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,320 random as to whether we get our flights allowed or not. That we same 173 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,559 with your heat wave, by the way, I mean, do you not 174 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:03,000 remember the time when one used to go to the Mediterranean in the summer and 175 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:07,600 fully expect it to be it won't pray indeed that it would be forty five 176 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,559 degrees? Is in foreign in foreign language, or about you know, in 177 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:16,080 the nineties in in English because that's what in old money, because that's what 178 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:20,279 you want, you don't and you don't characterize it as a kind of climate 179 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,799 emergency. I mean, have you seen how on the weather forecast now they 180 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:31,840 always show the weather with these red in the background, you know, indicative 181 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:35,559 of danger and man's selfishness and greed and all the other. I know that 182 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:39,399 the weather map on the BBC is practically in flames, isn't it these days? 183 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:46,679 It is so differently orange? Yeah, yeah, amazingly up until up 184 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:50,519 until this this decade, people went to the Mediterranean on holiday every summer and 185 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,840 did not die. So yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't think 186 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:58,360 the trouble, I mean it weren't surprised to learn. I think the trouble 187 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:05,320 chaos is cock up, not conspiracy. I don't think that Klaushfab was responsible 188 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,240 for my son forgetting his passport on the plane. But um, I think 189 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:16,200 that they certainly, certainly efforts are underfoot to make travel more difficult as part 190 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,840 of some you know, climate change agenda. There's no question about that, 191 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:26,360 and they are certainly exaggerating the risks posed to asked by elevated temperatures. I 192 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,759 mean, you know, in the state of Texas, I think it's it's 193 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:33,960 over forty degrees centigrade, you know, for most of the summer, and 194 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,960 people still manage to function, you know, tourists still come to Texas, 195 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:43,039 people don't spontaneously combust in the street because the thermometers climbed above forty degrees. 196 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,799 So I agree, it's it does seem to be kind of the exaggeration of 197 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:54,919 the risks associated with severe temperatures, does seem to be part of a kind 198 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:01,759 of net zero agenda, which you've kind of and seated my point without admitting 199 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:05,639 it or conceding it, because you are kind of admitting that there are forces 200 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,399 in the world which are determined to in the name Yeah, I mean I 201 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,759 agree with you, by the way, in the name in the name of 202 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,919 the false god climate change. They are trying to stop us traveling. So 203 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:22,480 it's only it's only a question of degree that. Yeah. But I don't 204 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:28,240 think British Airways needs any prompting, um to you know, to cock up 205 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,240 its schedule and cancel flights. It just needs to be general incompetence. And 206 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:35,480 I think it's partly because um, it's partly because you know, they can't 207 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,120 get the staff. Um. And they can't get the staff because lots of 208 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,360 people have decided to retire because the government paid them to work from home during 209 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:46,679 the lockdown. They don't want to go back to work, and it takes 210 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:52,559 a while to train flight attendants, let alone pilots. So um, you 211 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:54,360 know, I think I think, I think, let's not forget that the 212 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:58,879 Jamed pilots who are dying. Yeah, that's the other problem. Were you 213 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:07,679 disappointed to see no Vacs Djokovic lose in the final of Wimbledon's I was, 214 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,080 I was rooting for the older man and for the unjabbed person in fact, 215 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,159 in fact, during during the match, just to go the rest of the 216 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:23,480 family who are not let's say as um as um fanatical about anti anti anti 217 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:30,600 vacs as I am. Um. My son googled to see whether what's he 218 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:37,000 called Alcarez acna Traz we call him, Yeah, he has got a bit 219 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:41,879 of here, Acnatraz that he googled to see what acne trass position on the 220 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,080 vaccines were and low age seventeen. He said, I think we should get 221 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:52,840 the vaccines for all, for the good of all, or something something like 222 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:59,200 that, and everyone's safe. So I thought, I want Acnatraz to lose 223 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:03,320 this one. Even though he plays, he plays some lovely shots. I 224 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,559 mean, his winning shots are something else, aren't they? He pulls them 225 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:08,519 out of the hat. Yeah, I watched a bit of a bit. 226 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:11,359 It was he's pretty impressive for, you know, someone who's just turned twenty. 227 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:15,759 I mean, my wife was absolutely rooting for him, not because she's 228 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,799 not because she's not because she's a vaccine so I think she just felt, 229 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,240 I mean, she doesn't have much sympathy for Novak. And you know, 230 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,240 notwithstanding his principled stance on refusing to get vaccinated, he's not a terribly sympathetic 231 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,720 characteristic. He's got a little bit of negative. Oh hang on, did 232 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:36,440 you hear his his speech? His speech was very gracious. Oh god, 233 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,839 it was lovely. It completely belied his reputation as this as this kind of 234 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:47,279 stolid, unemotional um, just a machine. It was a beautiful speech, 235 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:51,640 a lot better, a lot better than actress. I mean that's English. 236 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Well yeah, yeah, Alcarez only congratulated Novak as an afterthought, as though 237 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,319 someone in his box had kind of said, you haven't congratulated no bread yet. 238 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Come on, Yeah he wasn't. Yeah, it was a very gracious 239 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,599 speech, but it seemed, yeah, it was. It was slightly unexpected 240 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,279 because out of character. And he did smash his racket sort of like literally 241 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,759 fifteen minutes beforehandy. But then he gave his smash its true man in yellow 242 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:22,880 in the crowd. So he apparently. I like Djokovic. I think he's 243 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,599 I think he's good obviously. Um yeah, his position on the on the 244 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:33,440 death jabs has been I mean I talked to um. I mean it's hard 245 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:40,480 to remember now because we've all memory holded just how much pressure sporting stars were 246 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:45,400 under to take these bloody death jebs they were, and Pat Cash was was 247 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:49,279 helping to sort of fight this rearguard action, sort of spreading the word quietly 248 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:55,279 through the back door, trying to get as many tennis players as possible saved 249 00:18:55,799 --> 00:18:59,119 from the death. Jeb I think, um, how do you how do 250 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,319 you say Medvedet? Is it Medvedev? Was it me? Or I'm not 251 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,759 sure your sound? I wish I could. I want to learn Russian. 252 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:10,640 Maybe some some volunteer can come along and teach me how to speak Russian. 253 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,519 I'd love to be able to pronounce the name. So I don't. I 254 00:19:11,559 --> 00:19:18,079 don't call Levin Levin. I called him Leevin Um. But Medvedev Medvedev hasn't 255 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,559 had a jab, so I was kind of rooting for him against the American 256 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,079 kid who I mean basically, I'll always root for the older player against the 257 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,039 youngsters because I don't like young upstarts that mean sold them. You know, 258 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,000 they've got youth on their side. They don't need victory as well. Yeah, 259 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:37,839 um, so we should, we should, we should break for a 260 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:41,839 programmatic ab James, Yeah, and then come back and talk about your the 261 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,839 loss you've suffered in the previous week. Yeah, everybody, James Lilac, 262 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,960 you're for the Ricochet podcast, the Flagship Podcast. It's July. That means 263 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,759 it's hard. What better to do than sit inside with the air conditioning going 264 00:19:56,039 --> 00:20:00,960 four blast while they listened to the heated, sparkly brickly fireworks opinions of Peter 265 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:04,319 Robinson, rob Long and myself as we talked to Well, you'll just have 266 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,079 to tune in and find out, won't you. That's ricochet dot com where 267 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:15,960 the Flagship Podcast can be found every week. Don't miss it. So I'll 268 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,119 tell you what terms whatever that programmatic ad was, I'll bet you it's going 269 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,599 to be inimical and antithetical to all the things that we try to represent on 270 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,799 this podcast. So it'll be it would have been pushing climate change, offset 271 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,880 carbon off sets, wind turbine credits. Yeah, no, it would have 272 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:41,880 been visor because until everyone's safe, nobody's safe. Yeah yeah yeah, Nasaton 273 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:47,680 de belably your local farmacists, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and yeah um 274 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,880 well um yes i am. I'm I'm more upset than I should be. 275 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:56,960 Um or perhaps now I'm as upshit set as I should be that, as 276 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:00,039 you know, because I think we hinted it last week, but I think 277 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:07,640 the full impact hadn't hit home. I've had my Twitter account with one hundred 278 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:18,720 and twelve thousand followers hat and stolen by this company promoting some kind of shitcoin, 279 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:29,559 some kind of cryptocurrency, and Twitter, which you'd think would be lightly 280 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,519 interested in stopping people's I mean, theft, That's what it is, isn't 281 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:38,279 it. It's theft because I'm sure an account with one hundred and twelve thousand 282 00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:45,359 followers has has great monetary value inasmuch as you can use I mean I used 283 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,000 it to promote my podcasts and stuff like this and you know this this podcast 284 00:21:49,519 --> 00:21:55,400 included, and to have chat and stuff. And presumably there are people on 285 00:21:55,519 --> 00:22:00,200 Twitter who are there for people like me because they don't on just the boring 286 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:06,079 commentary from um you know, Alistair Campbell and Gary Linka being put out by 287 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,359 their bots. They actually want real people saying real things. And because I 288 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,559 think I think the one thing Twitch has got over the over the possibly um 289 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:22,079 better run sites or more honest sites like getter and gabs, that it's got 290 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,640 diversity hasn't it, it's got diversity of opinion, and I think it's more 291 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,880 fun to be on because there's more of a cut and thrust and if if 292 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:36,519 you get rid of the people like me, you're just essentially killing what makes 293 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Twitter interesting. But it seems that Elon Musk and Twitter support that I mean, 294 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,400 it's not that. I mean I keep making appeals, but a to 295 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:51,920 try and get get through the Twitter's appeal system is a bit like you trying 296 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,079 to get your money back for your flights or to try to rebook a flight 297 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,839 with with with Ryan Air, when when everyone else from BA is trying to 298 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,640 get one too. Um that there are plenty of opportunities to complain if you've 299 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:11,759 been misgendered or if I don't know, you've been hurt by somebody's hurting words, 300 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:18,160 but you try complaining that your site, your your Twitter profile with one 301 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,119 hundred and twenty one hundred and twelve thousand followers has been stolen and is being 302 00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:27,000 used by a cryptocount. You just stolen in plain site and everyone can see 303 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,799 it. I mean, it's it's not like it's hard to prove, and 304 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,920 Twitter support is not interested. I've I've I've appealed three times, and every 305 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,119 time I've checked on on my case with my case number, it says your 306 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,519 case has been closed. And I think we'll hang on a second. When 307 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:47,720 did you when was it open? When did you do anything about what evidence 308 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:51,680 you look at before you close my case? So I'm I suppose what I'm 309 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:55,599 doing here is appealing, apart from anything else, to all my old followers. 310 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,400 Have you got the name of my my temporary Twitter account? I think 311 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,839 it's at James Delling, isn't it. Yeah, yeah, I'm following you. 312 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:07,000 But if if, if, if you could use your your two hundred 313 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:11,799 thousand followers and an appeal to like minded people to kind of spam. Elon 314 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:18,119 Musk was saying, like, can you reinstate James Dannypole's stolen account? I'd 315 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,279 appreciate it because it's it's horrible. I mean, if I leave Twitter, 316 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:23,920 I'd like to leave of my own accord because I'm the sick of it, 317 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,640 rather than because some criminal enterprise has stolen my account and Twitter does nothing about 318 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:37,039 it. When I when when I first heard reports James that you were claiming 319 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,359 your Twitter account had been hacked, I thought, oh my god, what 320 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:47,039 has he said? Like I thought you'd said something so unspeakable on Twitter that 321 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,160 you you'd panicked and said, all right, cat was hacked, wasn't me? 322 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:53,680 My cat was hacked? And people the standard default position, if you're 323 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,759 threatened with cancelation for saying something politically incorrect on Twitter, you immediately go to 324 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,039 my account was hacked. But but I couldn't think of anything. You know, 325 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,759 you could say that you know you haven't said already, and that would 326 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,799 likely get you canceled when you know, I mean, it was just hard 327 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,480 to imagine something that you even you considered beyond the pale, whereby you'd have 328 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:15,920 to kind of invent the fact that your account had been happy. I can't 329 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,319 imagine that thing would be No, I can't imagine what d so anyway, 330 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,960 I looked at your account and clearly has been hacked. Um, yeah it 331 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,519 was. Did you hear what happened to Patrick Christie's at GB News? GB 332 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:32,079 News presenter Patrick Christie's married to engage your many carvar so he after just stopped 333 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,319 oil protested George Osbourne's wedding. Um, it was quite a mild predatim he 334 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,640 saw it, but confetti was thrown at the happy couple. It turned out 335 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,960 the the the confetti thrower, that just Stop oil protester. The Daily Mail 336 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,000 dug into her and turned out she she just got back from a holiday in 337 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,279 Thailand. Couldn't make it up anyway. So Patrick Christie's said on Twitter, 338 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:02,799 if a just Stop oil protester turned up at my wedding, there end up 339 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,240 in the graveyard behind the church. And this was taken and this prompted various 340 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:12,400 complaints by all the gb News haters to Twitter, and he was notified that 341 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:21,440 his account had been closed because he breached Twitter's rules about not threatening people with 342 00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:26,279 violence or not using violent language. It was obviously a joke, he didn't 343 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:30,920 mean it literally. It wasn't actually going to murder adjust a boil protester if 344 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,640 they turned up to protest his wedding, And so the Free Speech Union he 345 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,880 reached out to us for help and we helped him compose an appeal and his 346 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,440 account was reinstated. I think also gb News corporate got in touch with Twitter, 347 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,400 you know, corporate, to complain about it. But anyway, his 348 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,200 account was reinstated within twenty four hours. So when you appealed, did you 349 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,279 I think there is a kind of button you can push if you're you can 350 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,240 you can you can tick a box which if your account has been hacked, 351 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:03,640 So it hacked account division of Twitter Support. You did all that, did 352 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,240 you? Yes? I did, although I have to say i've did. 353 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,920 Yeah, I went through that today. I mean, um, my previous 354 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:22,839 complaints were to Twitter Support different I don't know terps. I'm not very good 355 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,079 at tech. Um, but yeah I have. I have gone through that 356 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,920 hacked thing. Um. So okay, is there there is there a special 357 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,279 fast tracking thing that one can get to if one's if one's a big hitter 358 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,160 with with like lots of followers, you think you think they care a bit 359 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:45,119 more? Just did not not be purchased a blue Now I didn't know? 360 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,160 Okay, I agree that would have been I think, I mean, I 361 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,759 think I don't know, you know if if if any, I mean, 362 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:55,759 I don't know how many people are left in Twitter Support these days. It's 363 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:59,559 probably you know, two men and two men and a dog, um somewhere 364 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:03,039 in you know, California, but um or possibly Bangalore. But but but 365 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,559 if you kind of I think it's probably worth saying that. You know, 366 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,119 you're you're, you're, you're, you had over one hundred thousand followers that 367 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,000 you clearly that you're you're, you know, an award winning journalist. You've 368 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,680 been a journalist for forty years. You're still right for the spectator, you 369 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,279 know, try and make yourself sound super respective, the kind of person. 370 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,240 Yeah, that's going to work. I'll see you through that one. I 371 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,559 didn't tell you. I didn't tell you the other thing. Um, in 372 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:34,039 my desperation when I was when I I had a Twitter account with like four 373 00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:40,039 with four followers, you know, a temporary account, and one of my 374 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:45,039 one of my team, one of my my production team, UM, very 375 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:49,799 sweetly said, UM. On that kind of work work chat on on WhatsApp. 376 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:53,200 He said, lots of people are saying you should try this. This 377 00:28:53,400 --> 00:29:00,359 this Russian hacker guy who specializes in getting your your account back. I thought, 378 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,319 And he said, lots of people have been saying this, and I 379 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,319 hadn't. I hadn't got my on Twitter at this point, or I'd only 380 00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,240 got four four of sight, so I hadn't got I wasn't in a position 381 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,920 to check so right, So I looked at his screen shot and I took 382 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:18,200 that noted the name of this Russian hacker person who who's apparently a white hat 383 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:23,079 who rescues your accounts. And I contacted him and I explained the situation, 384 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:30,880 and he's very eager and friendly and and he says, um ah, yes, 385 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,480 I can help. But but well, I thought he's Russian. I 386 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:37,559 mean, he's Russian. He's got to be good because he's gonna. He's 387 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:38,079 gonna. I mean, that's his job is. And he's a hacker. 388 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,759 I mean they're they're hackers by nature. So he does this for fun, 389 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,759 but for the ships and giggles, and then he says he mentions that he 390 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,599 needs seventy five pounds for this special bit of software. And I'm thinking, 391 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,000 sorry, seventy five dollars, and I'm thinking, well, that's sixty quid 392 00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:00,160 in real money. And actually I would pay sixty quid even if he is 393 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,839 a fraud. It's worth it for the anecdote. Yeah, I've so, 394 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,160 So I start going through this process and I pay him um and um. 395 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:18,240 Then he tries to I paid to this one account and and and he says 396 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,640 it's being delayed. So so he gives me. He gives me a refund, 397 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480 and I can see I've got my refund clearly from him. They say, 398 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:27,759 try this account so I send him mine to that account and he says, 399 00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:30,880 no, this one doesn't work either. I'll send you a refund. 400 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,039 Can you try this account? And I say, yeah, sure, i'll 401 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:37,480 send I'll send more money to the next account, but not until I've got 402 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,240 the refund from this account. And he says, but I have sent you 403 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:44,720 refund. You trust me. I send it back before, And I said, 404 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,480 yeah, you sent it back last time, but you didn't send it 405 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,319 back this time. And until I get receipt of funds, I cannot send 406 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,079 you anymore because I was thinking, yeah, sixty quid, I can lose 407 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,400 one hundred and twenty. No, that's not worth the anecdote anyway. Of 408 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,920 course, it turns out that he is a hacker because when I refuse to 409 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,759 pay this extra money, he starts getting very angry with me and starts making 410 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:08,920 threats and stuff. And he said, you realize I am a hacker. 411 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,240 And I'm thinking, if you were a hacker, actually you wouldn't be. 412 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,519 You wouldn't be making threats like I am a hacker. Don't you know who 413 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,960 I am? I'm a hacker. You basically you're a scamster. So what 414 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:26,079 I would say is if if somebody advises you you can get your Twitter account 415 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:34,440 back by with this Russian hacker. Don't. Don't go for it, because 416 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:41,359 it's because unfortunately my my extreme desire to get my Twitter account back overcame the 417 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,839 voice in my head that says, hang on a second, are you sure 418 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,279 you want to be paying money to this guy who claims to be a Russian 419 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:52,240 hacker? Yeah? Yeah, well that sounds yeah, it sounds like you 420 00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:56,759 were wise not to send the Oh but while we're here, given I haven't 421 00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,519 got a Twitter account, I just like to advertise is my coming my next 422 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,279 delling pod speaker event with Live Dealing Pod Live with Clive to Carl, which 423 00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:10,559 is quite coming up quite shortly. Um endorse it in doorset Um, sorry 424 00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:16,160 shit shit um Dorset accent um Endorset on the twenty eighth of July. Um, 425 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:21,079 it's going to be great. Obviously I did my live events always are. 426 00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:25,279 Did you do Nick Dixon's other podcast last week? I did? How 427 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,240 was that? Oh? It was great? Um? And I think he 428 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,240 thought that I was being you know, like, I'm James Delingport, I'm 429 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:38,440 so grand. I don't do podcasts with little people. Um. And actually 430 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,319 the reason that I was being so hard to get was just like, I'm 431 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,640 really I'm really flaky and disorganized, and I don't like committing to anything I 432 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,759 don't like. I don't like committing to events more than two weeks in the 433 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,920 future, which makes my which makes my Dary a real problem because I know 434 00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,759 that sensible people plan way in advance. I hate planning an advance. I 435 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:06,200 don't know why it's it's you know, maybe I was attacked by Dary in 436 00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:09,079 my youth and I never forgave it or something. I don't know. That's 437 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:13,839 interesting because it's almost like a kind of, you know, a crossover event 438 00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:17,279 in which, you know, Spider Man appears in the MCU because I do 439 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,720 a podcast with Nick Dickson every week called The Weekly Skeptic, and now you've 440 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:29,599 appeared in his other podcast, which is called The Current Thing, and so 441 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,160 that must have been that might be a bit strange for our mutual fans. 442 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:37,480 Yeah, well, well here's the thing. So it turns out he told 443 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,079 me I don't whether this is true. Maybe you can confirm now, you 444 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:45,839 know, how you keep trying to your best argument against my conspiracy theories is 445 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:52,359 that you believe in Paul is Dead theory and you don't believe in dinosaurs, 446 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:59,079 therefore all your conspiracies aren't real. I mean, that's that's roughly your line. 447 00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:02,799 And he played that I don't believe in the Paul is Dead conspiracy theory. 448 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,799 No, you don't believe. But and you think you believe in dinosaurs 449 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,559 as well. I do, yeah, yeah, And you are constantly throwing 450 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:14,119 out in my face that you don't believe in dinosaurs, James, and you 451 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,239 think that Paul is dead. Therefore all your conspiracies all belong to us, 452 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,800 you know that they're all rubbish. And he tells me that he invented this 453 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480 particular line of attack. This is his obsession which he fed to you. 454 00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:32,079 Ah, I think his his his his line, his his line, I 455 00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:37,440 think wasn't quite that, but I think his his line was that it's slightly 456 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:47,599 odd that you would be so intelligently skeptical about various claims made by authorities such 457 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:53,079 as, you know, unless we reduce carbon emissions to net zero by twenty 458 00:34:53,159 --> 00:35:00,239 fifty, the world's going to explode, but rather credulous when it comes to 459 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:07,119 conspiracy theories, not applying the same skeptical, analytical forensic approach to an How 460 00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:12,440 do you know as you would. Well, that was his original arguments. 461 00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,239 It wasn't quite quite, but that theory if you believe in A and B, 462 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:21,360 then C cannot possibly be true either. I think I think I probably 463 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,000 did scool him on this. I did go through a fairly lengthy explanation as 464 00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:32,440 to why I cautiously but reasonably confidently I think dinosaurs didn't exist, whereas ain't 465 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:37,440 dragons did exist but not dinosaurs. I think he's more open. He's probably 466 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:43,960 more open to being persuaded than I am about same dinosaurs. But perfect But 467 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:50,679 just on one point. You can't accuse somebody of being credulous if if the 468 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,800 things that things are matters where which I actually turn out to be true. 469 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,400 I mean, you don't know whether Paul is alive or dead. You've you've 470 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,639 seen the kind of the Paul impersonator fall McCartney. But you don't know that 471 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:06,599 I'm wrong in the same way you don't know I'm wrong about dinosaurs. Is 472 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,039 your assumption based on having not looked into it? But you can't. You 473 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:15,440 can't accuse me of not having um looks for revidence and stuff and looked into 474 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,599 it, which which I have done. I'm pretty confident that the guy you 475 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,719 see doing all those stumbs up signs on chat shows and stuff is actually a 476 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:30,880 Paul impersonator, and that dinosaurs were invented in order to as part of the 477 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,239 campaign to persuade us that the Earth is older than it really is. But 478 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,199 that's where we are. What is the evidence that Paul was replaced by a 479 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:49,719 Yeah, well, I think I don't want to sort of misrepresent that the 480 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,719 complexities of it, but I think that part of the theory is that the 481 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,280 real Paul died in a car crash, he blew his mind out in a 482 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,400 car in nineteen sixty six, and that this this replacement came along. There 483 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:07,599 may have been more than one replacement UM, and it like all these these 484 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,840 was the was the evidence for that they were? Well, well, I 485 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:19,880 say the evidence ranges from photographs of the You look at the before and after, 486 00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:23,559 and it does not look like the same person. That's so that's one 487 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:27,119 of them. I don't I'm not so convinced by that because I think it. 488 00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:36,039 I think it's I've I've I've spoken to female UM skeptics about this, 489 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,320 and they are much more alive too, including some of some of them who 490 00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:44,360 were remember being real fans of of of Paul McCart of the Beatles in the 491 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,519 early days, and then switching because something happened and they couldn't you know that 492 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:53,039 looking back they realize is that that they they saw that he wasn't the same 493 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:58,199 person. So what I'm saying is that maybe maybe women, in the same 494 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,440 way that men can't tell whether they're wives about a haircut, we're not very 495 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,119 good at good at physical observations and say where women can spot it. Maybe 496 00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,599 that's more of a female friendly conspiracy. But there are others, other bits 497 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:10,760 and pieces which I can't remember. Monarchaus. The problem with each, with 498 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,000 each of the individual conspiracy theories is that you need to be on top of 499 00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:19,119 it. Listen, we should probably break for one more program that we should 500 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,239 add, and then get a culture corner. 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That's power Lines three Whiskey 506 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:51,320 Happy Hour, hosted by Ricochet and found on all of your favorite podcast platforms. 507 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,599 So, James, I, because I'm on HO day, I did 508 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:05,559 manage to find some time to do a bit of TV watching, and I 509 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,239 managed to finish The Tulsa King, which which I thought was really pretty good. 510 00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:16,000 I remember you initially recommending don't like the premise, Okay, I don't. 511 00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:20,039 I don't like the idea of if Tulsa is a place of God, 512 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,159 guns and horses, like three of my favorite things. Why do I want 513 00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:30,159 to Mai matthios see matthis Matthioso going into this town and ruining it and corrupting 514 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:34,760 it. I want Tulsa as it as it is. I see. Yeah. 515 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,320 Um, well, notwithstanding you know that objection, I thought it was 516 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,719 reasonably well done. I mean, tap tap is it the guy who the 517 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,280 guy who wrote it and produced it, who also does Yo Stone. He's 518 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,480 Taylor Sheridan. He's he's he's a talent. He's a great filmmaker and a 519 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:59,239 great television maker too. And I've also downloaded season two of yellow Stone so 520 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,320 I can watch that while I'm here. But yeah, I thought, I 521 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,360 thought, I mean, it's still it's quite in some ways quite hard to 522 00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:14,039 buy Stallone as a kind of you know, to Familiars as a kind of 523 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:20,199 charismatic kind of gangster who manages to kind of assemble this crew from scratch to 524 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,960 take on the kind of the home crew in New York when he's seventy eight 525 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,960 and he's been banged up for twenty five years, and you know, doesn't 526 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,360 that's what happens? Well, oh, no, spoilers. Have you not 527 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,599 watch the spor haven't you? You spoke the entire Actually you actually made me 528 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:39,039 want to come back now because they were they were very nasty is New York 529 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:44,400 Controllers? Yeah, so what I thought I thought it was. I thought 530 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,519 it was pretty well done, pretty entertaining, And in the end I quite 531 00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:51,519 like Stallan and sort of believed in him as that character so much better than 532 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,320 schwartz Effort, He's horrible in Foo Bar. Yeah, yeah, okay, 533 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,159 I might I might on that recommend now I know where the plot goes, 534 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:05,639 I might come back to it. So he recruits So you're saying he recruits 535 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:12,920 a team in Tulsa. Yeah, of all places and I'm buying that. 536 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,559 Yeah, okay, I'm looking. I hope there's going to be another season. 537 00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:19,480 I haven't actually checked, but if there is, I'll be there. 538 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,079 So, um, have you've seen anything in the past week? Well, 539 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,559 yes, um, I saw a terrible thing on Netflix, absolutely awful, 540 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:36,760 awful, awful Eldorado, which was a documentary about the supposedly true story of 541 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,519 the of the Berlin nightclub scene that gave us Babylon Berlin. You know. 542 00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:46,400 So the thesis was Weimar Republic was paradise and it was especially a paradise for 543 00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:52,079 for LGBT Plus and if you don't support every aspect of the LGBT plus agenda, 544 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,360 you are a Nazi. So I'm not going to waste time on that 545 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,920 because it's so awful. So I then fled to a place I never go 546 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:07,599 to normally, which is BBC BBC three and watch this reality series which is 547 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:15,000 kind of appalling but kind of addictive, called The Traitors. Do you know, 548 00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,039 but have you seen The Traders? It's okay, So it's made in 549 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:28,719 Australia and it's a bunch of about twenty five contestants go to a nice country 550 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:37,000 hotel in Australia, and four of them are secretly chosen to be traitors, 551 00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:44,760 and the traitors meet every evening in secret to discuss which contestant is going to 552 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,079 be bumped off next, and when they can churn up to breakfast, one 553 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,360 is missing because they've been killed by the traitors. And then and there are 554 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,760 various pointless game show elements, and there's a there's a visibly small prize which 555 00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:02,079 we're encouraged to be excited about, but it's not really And the um, 556 00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:09,320 the the faithfuls, as the non traitors are known. Every every evening everyone 557 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:16,840 gathers traitors and faithfuls alike to eliminate one contestant UM and they keep hoping they're 558 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:22,920 going to eliminate a traitor and so so so they have a roundtable discussion of 559 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,960 the clues that might have been that you know, the traitors might have given 560 00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:35,960 them, and and every time they end up um binning one of their own 561 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:42,239 because they're because they're deceived by the traitors. So it's an incredibly it's characteristic 562 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,880 of the way that popular entertainment is designed to subvert our culture and make us 563 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,199 weaker. And you know, so so here is a here is a series 564 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:55,400 designed to encourage lying, deception, to promote conspiracy, to um you know, 565 00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:59,760 to promote division, and we're encouraged to root for the baddies in a 566 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:07,639 way, because it's extraordinary how weak and gullible and distracted the faithful are that 567 00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:14,039 they keep sort of having these hunches which proved to be to be completely false. 568 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,519 And you think, if this is if these people were on a jury 569 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,559 and you were innocent, God help you, because they'd be inventing all these 570 00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:27,199 sort of reasons about why why you done it, and there you'd be sitting 571 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,519 in the door, actually completely innocent. But it's quite entertaining, sounds quite 572 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:37,360 good. So I'm still on Framley Parsonage. I think the fourth in the 573 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,079 BArch To Chronicles, which I'm enjoying. Someone said that they had listened to 574 00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:49,639 the Palace and novels, but narrated by somebody else who they thought was quite 575 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,159 good. The first one is not done by is not done by um By. 576 00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:59,079 Yeah, this wasn't, But this wasn't just the first one. This 577 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:05,960 was an entirely different narrator called Shaw Parker, and he takes a lot longer 578 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,960 than Timothy West. So this was this is the Duke's Children. That's not 579 00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:15,360 the first one, is it? No? Nice, So I think that's 580 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:20,039 I think that's the last one. Um so maybe the last. I mean 581 00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:23,239 I haven't actually listened to the last one yet, so maybe it's the Just 582 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,639 as the first one, as you say, wasn't read by Timothy West, 583 00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:30,079 maybe the last one wasn't either. But it sounds like it's just a completely 584 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:34,480 different version read by a different voice actor, who my friend says is quite 585 00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:38,679 good. It was certainly good on the first one. I'm not dissing him. 586 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,639 I just think Timothy West is so good, so good with it it 587 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,119 Shaw Parker on the first one, man, I think it may have been. 588 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,000 I think it may have been. But the thing about Timothy West, 589 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:57,079 unlike almost every other voiceover artist I've come across, I've never yet found him 590 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,480 get a word wrong pronounced certain true mainly yeah. I mean, he may 591 00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:07,599 be a lovey, but he's an educated Yeah. Yeah, and that's quite 592 00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:09,880 important when you're reading trollope, I think, because well it is. I 593 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,079 told you. I'm sure I've mentioned this before that when the reader of Memoirs 594 00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:22,519 of the Fox Hunting Man pronounced the pie lee the pitch lee, right, 595 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,360 and I think he want this is a book about pop fox hunting. You 596 00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:34,519 cannot pronounce the name of one of the four Great County hunts um incorrectly. 597 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:40,519 M h it's it's us anyway. Yeah, well it's my hunt. So 598 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:49,519 obviously I'm slightly pissed. But yeah, um, I'm I'm still finishing um 599 00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:57,280 shamus a tool or whatever it's called. Yeah, yeahs finn phineas finn um. 600 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,440 Yeah, I still haven't worked how he's gonna he's gonna go back to 601 00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:05,119 the nice Irish girl um that he should marry at the end. I'm sure. 602 00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,159 I'm sure Trump is working his way around to it. Yes, yes, 603 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,800 yes, m okay, Well all right, James, I'm gonna leave 604 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,000 you because it's your really children and yeah, I think they want to go 605 00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:19,679 to the beach. So are you there for just before you go? Are 606 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,920 you in a nice part of New York? Or I mean has it all 607 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,000 been ruined like everywhere? Now we're in the north. It's near a town 608 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:31,039 called Alcudia, Um, Alcudia, and it's actually pretty nice. Um the 609 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:35,480 north is nicer than the south. But yeah, it's I mean, you 610 00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:37,840 know, you go into town, there are quite a few tourists around, 611 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,440 but it's not kind of, it's not magaalouf. It's pretty nice. And 612 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,679 no no wind turbines, No wind turbines as far as I can see, 613 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:52,840 no um no. And you know, supermarkets reasonably well stocked um. And 614 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,800 restaurants not you know, wildly of a priced. Went to a nice tapas 615 00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:01,159 spark or but Imperial in Port the Plensa on the first night and go away 616 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,079 under two hundred quid for six of us, which was Now you've mentioned that, 617 00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:09,639 Toby, what's the name again? Bar Imperial? Okay? And what's 618 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,920 what's I have advertised you on my podcast? Can I have a free free 619 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:16,360 a night? Yeah? I'm going to mention that when I go back there. 620 00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:20,719 Yeah, I definitely want to go back before we leave. Definitely the 621 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,800 best first place we can, so go for it. Um okay, what 622 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,760 hopes? Well? Um? Have um fun? Oh? Yes, you 623 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,960 can get tickets to my climb to carfing at event right, look up Delling 624 00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:37,559 Pod twenty eight July. Indorse it okay, all down right, all right, 625 00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:39,039 James, good to talk to you, okay, and you have fun? 626 00:48:39,519 --> 00:49:02,599 Why this is London falling? Ricochet joined the conversation