WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:08.720 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:24.280 day. Now here's nick coffee. All right, let's get it started. 3 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:28.359 Hour number two here on a Monday afternoon coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's 4 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:32.000 appreciate you guys hanging out with us. If you are just now joining us 5 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:35.359 here in the four o'clock hour, welcome in. And if you've been with 6 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:41.399 us, stick around. We got two more hours left. So I know 7 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:47.079 you guys do not care at all about my vacation, my my, you 8 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:49.640 know, I mean, I wouldn't say my personal life. I mean, 9 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:53.320 I know you guys don't really care, but you know, at times, 10 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:57.320 sharing some stuff from within your personal life can lead to, you know, 11 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:00.719 some interest. I don't know, but real quick, I want to echo 12 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:06.599 something John said last week when he returned from vacation, and that was going 13 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:11.200 places you've never been before like that is that's I've always I mean, I've 14 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:18.000 always felt like I enjoyed trips to places for the first time, but I 15 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.239 just don't go on them as much anymore. And mostly it's just because it's 16 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.920 just not convenient, and you know, I don't get unlimited vacation and I 17 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:27.480 don't have unlimited money. Traveling is not cheap. And when it comes to 18 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:34.079 trips with kids, trips, solo trips, just me and my wife, 19 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.439 like you know, everybody's different. There's certain places I'd love to go, 20 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.000 but I know i'd never go with my kids. There's certain places I'd love 21 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.159 to go, but I know my wife wouldn't want to go. So you 22 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:44.760 know, everybody has their own preferences and whatnot. But I really want to 23 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.760 start when I do think of a trip to take. If I'm thinking, 24 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:49.920 Okay, I got some vacation to burn, let's get away for three or 25 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.200 four days or something like that, I mean, I want to make it 26 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.599 a point to make sure I go somewhere I've never been, just to enjoy 27 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.840 the experience. So this trip that I was on, I mean it felt 28 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:05.359 like, you know, I didn't feel like I was gone for that long, 29 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:07.199 to be honest with you. But Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, so 30 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.639 three days away from the show. But then of course, you know I 31 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:15.360 was there for the weekend. But I ended up at Table Rock Lake in 32 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:19.840 Missouri. I think Kimberling City is is the town in Missouri. So I 33 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.840 have family that lives in Favel, Arkansas, and in Springfield, Missouri, 34 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.879 and the lake I guess, you know, there's a lot of lakes down 35 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.400 there. That's the Ozarks essentially. I mean that's where I was. The 36 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.280 region that we were in was the Ozarks. And it's just beautiful. I 37 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.599 mean, just seeing a place for the first time, I mean, it's 38 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.639 just it's awesome. So I have my aunt and uncle. They were celebrating 39 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:45.000 their fiftieth anniversary wedding anniversary, which shout out to Uncle Mark and and Linda 40 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.599 that it's a hell of a run fifty years and they're still going strong. 41 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:53.199 So this is my mother's sister, who is the oldest of the family. 42 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:58.680 My mom is on the younger side. And since I've been alive, they've 43 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.199 always lived in different places. My uncle Mark's job would take him, you 44 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:05.439 know, different area different I mean, he grew up in Green Bay, 45 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.840 Wisconsin. The two of them met at Western Kentucky many many, many many 46 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:12.879 years ago, and then after that he started to you know, he got 47 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.840 out of college and you know, started working in his career in his field, 48 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.280 and you know, they ended up in Murphysboro, Tennessee. They lived 49 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.639 in a small town in Arkansas, and then I think he, yeah, 50 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:24.319 he's retired in the faye Val area, which is where they live now, 51 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:28.319 but his kids, one of them lives in Favor, one of them lives 52 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:31.080 in Springfield, Arkansas. So we were really close. I mean, i'd 53 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:36.639 say it's probably my you know, two of my closest cousins and two of 54 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:38.319 my closest aunts and uncles, but we just don't see each other that often, 55 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.319 so it was just cool to be there. I mean, my mom 56 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.919 went, my stepdad me of course, and my kids and wife and my 57 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.280 sister and her son went, and then it was just a good family trip. 58 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:53.240 There's always some real benefit in having other family with you that you know, 59 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.400 you're not gonna make him watch your kid while you go out and you 60 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:58.919 know, have a day to yourself. But it's just nice for your kids 61 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.400 to be around other family to where it's not as much work when you've got 62 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:05.879 little ones around. But it was, it was great and without even really 63 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.680 any attempt, like it wasn't something I thought about, but I was as 64 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:15.079 unplugged from my phone social media as I've been in a really really long time, 65 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:19.519 and I never really, never really even thought about it, and that's 66 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.600 probably because I was just enjoying time being around family that unfortunately I don't get 67 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:27.360 to see that often because we live so far away. But it's the first 68 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.759 time I've returned from a trip in a long time where I feel like, 69 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.199 Wow, that was great. I've had good trips, trust me, It's 70 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.879 not like I had bad ones, but I feel like relaxed in a way. 71 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.519 And I don't really know. And we drove John by the way we 72 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:44.240 you know, that's not typically stressed, but I was. So we ended 73 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.240 up doing Wednesday night in Springfield was not Springfield, but Saint Charles, Missouri, 74 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.439 which is just right outside of of Saint Louis, and that town was 75 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:55.319 cool to hell. I mean it's it's a little older, uh, I 76 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.199 mean both in like it's got a very historic, like old main street area 77 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:03.079 of downtown and it's also like an older crowd. My wife and I ended 78 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.199 up there at a perfect night because on Wednesday we got an airbnb that was 79 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:09.839 like over top one of the coffee shops there in town. But they shut 80 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:14.000 down like three blocks in their little, you know, the heart of their 81 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.720 small downtown in Saint Charles, Missouri, and they have live music and it 82 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.680 was a lot of fun. We were probably the youngest couple there by, 83 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:24.959 you know, maybe twenty years, but hey, the older couples were having 84 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:28.560 themselves a good time. The band was really really good. So yeah, 85 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.199 it's just nice to experience things you've never experienced before. And I think it's 86 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.839 okay to say, like, you know, I don't know if I'll be 87 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.399 back there, wouldn't mind it, But I don't have any like I don't 88 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:40.759 know why. Maybe it's I don't know if it's something within our culture as 89 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.519 Americans, and look, everybody travels different. But I do feel like a 90 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.040 lot of people they have their spot. They when they going on a trip, 91 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.240 they know where they're going and they love it. And that's okay. 92 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.279 We have that as well with destin. But I do find as I get 93 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:54.560 older, I get a little burned out of places. And it doesn't mean 94 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:57.079 I don't like them. It doesn't mean I'm never going back, but I 95 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:01.759 find myself lately really wanting to explore more. And you know, it doesn't 96 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.279 have to be a big destination spot, right Like, it's not like I 97 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:08.759 got a bucket list of all these places. I mean, there are places 98 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:12.199 I'd like to go and see before I die. But there's something fun about 99 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:15.279 just ending up somewhere and kind of learning about it as you're there and just 100 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:16.800 kind of taking it in. I guess it's, you know, kind of 101 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.199 spontaneous in a way. I'm with you, and I know I laid out 102 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:23.720 a lot a lot of that last week when I talked about why we were 103 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:27.399 in Delaware and that kind of stuff. But I've never I guess whenever I 104 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.199 was a kid, I had my family always had the same spot, and 105 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.759 that changed over time. But what we would do is we would go to 106 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:38.000 the same spot. We would go there for probably three or four years in 107 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:42.000 a row, and then we would not really intentionally, but we would eventually 108 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.279 just switch spots. But for some reason, always got burnt out on those 109 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:46.240 as a kid. So yeah, and it's not that you don't like it, 110 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.040 it's just you know, you only get you know, a couple of 111 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:53.279 those trips maybe a year, right, And yeah, and the reuds. 112 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.079 There's a whole lot out there that you haven't seen exactly, And there's a 113 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.480 different type. There's all different types of trips, like the long weekend, 114 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.959 the weekend it away. Hey, Well, just we're gonna fly somewhere far. 115 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.319 But we're only gonna be there for a couple of days. But it's 116 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.639 okay because we've got to we've gotta we got a flight, we don't have 117 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.879 to drive. But I think you can enjoy. I don't know. I 118 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:17.000 just I feel like there are some people that if they end up going somewhere, 119 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:23.279 it's not a place that they find themselves making sure they already are planning 120 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:28.079 their next trip like it. It's a sign of them feeling underwhelmed with it. 121 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.720 And I don't. I don't. I there are plenty of places that 122 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.439 I've gone to. Heck, maybe maybe it's table Rock, Like I'm sure 123 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.480 I'll be back there at some point in my life with family. I don't 124 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:39.800 know. But you know, even if I don't, it doesn't mean it 125 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:43.120 wasn't great. You know. It's just I don't know more than anything like 126 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:48.519 destination spots right like big cities or you know, the Bahamas, or I 127 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:53.399 mean Florida, I guess is where most people around here go on vacation for 128 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:56.399 like a full week, or Alabama when it comes to like Gulf shores and 129 00:07:56.439 --> 00:08:00.800 things like that. But I don't know. I'm looking forward to our trip 130 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:03.800 to Destin next month, because you know, I love that trip and it's 131 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.560 beautiful. It's our family vacation. We'll probably do it as long as the 132 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.759 kids want to keep going. I'm sure when they get older they won't want 133 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.040 to go, but we'll make them go and we'll have fun because that's what 134 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:16.920 parents do. But you know, I just really really found myself, you 135 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.920 know, enjoying the It's one of those things where I can't give you anything 136 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.360 crazy and exciting that we did that was like, Wow, you won't believe 137 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.040 this. This was a crazy experience. But it's still a lot of fun. 138 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.320 And it's good to see family, I know, that's for sure. 139 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:35.039 And my kids did great in the car. I was so proud of them. 140 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:37.919 They were a little restless on the way there, I think because they 141 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.519 knew we were stopping early. But on the drive home yesterday, we didn't 142 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:45.200 even get as early of a start as I would have liked. But my 143 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.120 daughter slept almost the entire way, which was just a gift from God. 144 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.519 And Moose woke up and got a little whiny, little restless, but then 145 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:56.600 he fell back asleep and we were good to go. So yeah, it 146 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:01.679 was a good trip. Now, the drive from Saint Louis area to where 147 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.440 we ended up in. I guess it's Kimberling City, Missouri, and which 148 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:07.480 I'm sure none of you ever heard of. It's a really small town. 149 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.200 I wouldn't even really call it much of a town, but it's it's what 150 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:16.440 connects you to that lake that we stayed on. I mean, I now 151 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.960 know why they call it the Bible Belt. A lot of churches, a 152 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.879 lot of billboards wanting you to know that Hell is real and letting you know 153 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.279 that. You know, if you don't, you don't get yourself right with 154 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.639 God. Hell is constant torture. Like just seeing those things on billboards is 155 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:37.600 not something you typically see around here. A lot of a lot of tourism 156 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:39.879 stuff. That was about caves, which I've never seen any I don't, 157 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.279 you know, but I guess the Ozark area there's a lot of caves. 158 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.720 Yeah, I mean, and you know, not a whole lot to see 159 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.559 in that area of the country, and I guess it'd be considered the Midwest. 160 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.120 But uh, yeah, I don't know why they call it the Bible 161 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.519 bel because they they're you know, but but the little you know, little 162 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.240 you know, those who are very religious and wanting you to know about Hell 163 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.399 being real and why you need to get right with God. You know, 164 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.399 they don't own all the inventory on whatever interstate I was on, because it 165 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:13.360 was a little while to see okay, church church sign about Hell being real, 166 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.519 something about Trump twenty twenty four, and then seeing a huge billboard that 167 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:22.639 says the Lions did exit Exit forty five, I mean a little inconsistent with 168 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:28.440 the messaging. There was one store called the Pleasure Zone. We didn't see 169 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.000 the store, but like billboards, there's not a whole lot to see, 170 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.320 so the billboards actually stand out when you're in the middle of nowhere, you 171 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.759 know what I mean. It was Hell being real, Trump's Trump with the 172 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.879 country needs Trump back. That's what the sign said, you know, promoting 173 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.600 church, you know, all kinds, and you actually see some of the 174 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:48.600 churches right there off the interstate. And then the occasional sign for a porn 175 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.600 store. I guess which is what the Pleasure Zone and the lions Den. 176 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.559 The Lion's Den was. But I would say this real quick. By the 177 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.360 way, I'm a Christian, but that stuff right there, I've never understood 178 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.679 it. And there's there's different locations across the country, typically rural areas that 179 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:09.600 have always signs, and I just I feel like most people who aren't Christians, 180 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.600 they just they just laugh at those things. It's getting the message across 181 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.600 to anybody. I feel like, yeah, you're right, and I'm glad 182 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.399 you said that because I think for you as someone who uh and I don't 183 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.559 won't speak for you, but I think you are a little you're more into 184 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:26.240 your mean, you're you're very active within your church, and you are a 185 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:31.919 Christian and I am as well, but you are someone that probably sees that 186 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.600 as more harmful to whatever message. Yeah, I would you know what I'm 187 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.039 saying. Yeah, So, like I totally get it, especially if it's 188 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.320 like you know, I mean, heck, I'm sure it actually could be 189 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.639 effective at times for people who might just think, like, you know what, 190 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.919 if you know, let's just say I ended up there, I wouldn't 191 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.840 want to be tortured. So maybe I should, you know, get right 192 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:52.919 with God and if that, you know, if that helps, then you 193 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:54.960 know, I guess you did something good. But it's just aggressive, right, 194 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.559 just driving down the road. Hell is real? Okay, next billboard? 195 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:05.559 Hell? You know is constant torture? Yeah, so yeah, apparently 196 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.799 the biggest This is not a huge city, although it's a bigger city than 197 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.960 I realized. Where where Missouri State University is. And by the way, 198 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.679 they just made the move to division on FBS. I think they're the latest 199 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.320 member of the Conference USA. But Missouri State is in Springfield, Missouri. 200 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.200 Have you ever heard of Springfield, Missouri? Yes, so I've heard of 201 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.120 it and and I've been through it before. But it's a bigger area than 202 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:28.840 I realized. Like there's it's a they've never don't mean, is it the 203 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.399 capital of the state. Maybe you wouldn't know that. I think it might 204 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.120 be, But yeah, I mean, like that's a place to where. 205 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.879 Again I don't know if I'm ever gonna end up there for a night or 206 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:39.039 something like that, but like, it's a bigger area than I would have 207 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:46.000 ever thought. And it's apparently believed to be the the buckle of the Bible 208 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.519 belt. Like it's right there in the middle. And once I once I 209 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.759 saw a tagline for the for the for you know, you're entering Springfield or 210 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.480 whatnot, I knew exactly, you know, they make total sense given the 211 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:58.720 fact of all the signs that I saw on my way there, but actually 212 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.480 a little quick fact for you, John, the first ever bass Pro shops 213 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.159 was created and was started in Springfield. This is a massive like the one 214 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.120 across the road. Yeah, it's huge, and apparently the lake that we 215 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:15.519 were on it's man made and there's all kinds of like I mean, you 216 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.759 know, it was not like any lake I'd ever been to. Not I'm 217 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.080 not a big lake guy anyways, but there's a lot of cool stuff that, 218 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.120 like, you know, activities and stuff for kids, like there's just 219 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.279 a lot of things that have been added to the lake we were at, 220 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.679 all by the guy who started bass Pro. So yeah, it was a 221 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.360 good trip, but I am I'm happy to be back, and I mentioned 222 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.120 this earlier within the show if you guys weren't with us, But I do 223 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.720 return here on a big sports to day only at sports that I just I'd 224 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.919 be lying if I said I really cared about them, and that is We've 225 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.799 got Game three of the College World Series final tonight. It's going to be 226 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.240 Texas or Tech I'm sorry, Texas A and m or Tennessee who end up 227 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.039 winning the College World Series. And then we've got Game seven of the Stanley 228 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:54.159 Cup, which again we talked about it earlier. Hockey is a sport that 229 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.000 both and I, both John and I said we wish we were a little 230 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:01.200 more into because it just seems like if you're like the experience of being in 231 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.879 a big game as a hockey fan, I think would be a lot of 232 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.240 fun. I just I can't relate. I've never actually been able to. 233 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.320 I've mean never been in that situation, right, I've never had a team 234 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.720 I care about, and I've just I wasn't exposed to the sport a whole 235 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.600 lot. Again, I talked about it earlier. The level of knowledge I 236 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.840 have of hockey in any way, and there's not much of it is just 237 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.919 what I saw in Mighty Ducks growing up with Coach Gordon Bombay. Shout out, 238 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.000 Coach Bombay. Did you ever see that movie? I'll bet you didn't. 239 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:24.879 I didn't. I'm aware of it, but I haven't seen it. 240 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.159 It's right after your time, like when we started watching movies as a kid. 241 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.240 That was a little little dated at that time, but really good movie. 242 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:35.120 D two Mighty Ducks was also really good. And didn't they I think 243 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.759 they brought that back as like a series, and I couldn't do it. 244 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.080 I couldn't bring myself to watch because I feel like I would have been sad, 245 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.200 Like it just wasn't needed. Kind of like Happy Gilmore too. I'm 246 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.600 uneasy about it. I'm gonna watch it. I can't not because I'm a 247 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:48.279 Happy gill More guy. It's one of my favorite movies ever. I've got 248 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.639 Madam Sandler shirt on right now. But this just wasn't necessary, you know 249 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.320 what I mean, Like there's no chance they can give us something close to 250 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:58.399 what they did in the original and that makes me sad. But anyways, 251 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:03.240 back to hockey. Edmonton was the two hundred and eleventh team in NHL history 252 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:07.639 to go down three to zero in a playoff series. They're just the tenth 253 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.519 team to come back and tie it at three apiece. Only four of those 254 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.919 ten came back to win the series. Only one of those was in the 255 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.559 finals. That was the Toronto Maple Leafs. They did it when in nineteen 256 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.360 forty two. The last team to do it was in twenty fourteen, the 257 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:26.039 La Kings, who won their first round series against the San Jose Sharks. 258 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:33.799 So this does kind of put in perspective just how rare this situation is because 259 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.360 I again I don't keep up with hockey at all. I don't follow it 260 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.759 at all, but I remember in twenty fourteen, ten years ago, it 261 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:48.720 was a it was included within the national storylines of sports that, oh my 262 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.840 god, can you believe it? The San Jose Sharks collapsed. They were 263 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.000 up three to OHO and lost the series. Because it's I mean, losing 264 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.639 a series up three to OZHO Again, it has happened, but it's so 265 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:06.639 rare, and tonight it could happen. So eight o'clock it'll be on ABC 266 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:11.080 and ESPN plus, So I guess they put it on yeah, because they've 267 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.480 got their relationship with both TNT and ESPN now, which if you remember, 268 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:17.559 and this is a good example, and I'll move on from this because I 269 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.159 know that nobody cares. But whenever ESPN got back in bed with the NHL, 270 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:29.279 I'm night have to look this up now because at one point, when 271 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.159 I was a kid, you used to see a whole I mean, you 272 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:33.679 used to see hockey on all the time on ESPN. I mean I wouldn't 273 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.159 want to watch it, but it would be on. Yeah. So the 274 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.480 NHL returned to ESPN in twenty one twenty two, So just a couple of 275 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.879 years ago. It's the first time they've they've had games on those stations since 276 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:49.279 two thousand and four. And I won't claim that if ESPN would have kept 277 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.279 their deal with in NHL, that I would have been a bigger fan. 278 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:56.320 But I used to be exposed to it more because it would when even when 279 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:02.440 they don't have games, they are still more inclined to show you highlights because 280 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:03.720 they're still going to show highlights regardless if they have the games or not. 281 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:06.759 That's what they do. I mean, that's Sports Center, but they're going 282 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.519 to be more involved in the coverage. They're going to be more inclined to 283 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.799 show you extensive highlights if it's on their family of stations. So that's why 284 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:19.119 the NBA, I think there's a false sense of the actual viewership. It's 285 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:25.160 all they talk about on these roundtable shows. But it's because it's a business 286 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:30.200 relationship. They're in bed together. I mean, it's it's past the point 287 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.920 of the Hawk Tua relationship. Like they're in bed together every night, you 288 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:37.200 know what I'm saying. Like the NBA in ESPN Disney, they're like one 289 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:44.839 big family essentially, So ESPN the night I'm sorry, ESPN Plus if you 290 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.799 want to watch it through stream, and ABC so a national broadcast tonight. 291 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.640 All right, let's get to a quick break. We'll come back on the 292 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.519 other side talk a little more about this trip that Louisville's making to the Bahamas 293 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.799 next month, as to why you should try to make it happen again. 294 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.000 Everybody would love to go, but I'm here to tell you it's probably more 295 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:03.640 doable than you'll realize. Also, Mark PLoP, Mark Mark Poop, Mark 296 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.759 Pope, Poop PLoP, Mark Pope. That's his name, Mark PLoP. 297 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.400 My son calls him Mark Poop, but his name is Mark Pope. He 298 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:15.519 was spotted earlier today on an airplane, not flying first class. It wasn't 299 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:21.440 a chartered flight. My man was flying coach. And I think the reaction 300 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:23.880 to this is entertaining, and we'll talk about it. And again, I 301 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.319 don't want to nerd out too much, but we do have some numbers to 302 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.319 run through here as far as u of L's recent athletic board meeting, we'll 303 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.279 talk about some of the goals the university has from an athletic department standpoint, 304 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.480 as far as you know, ways to increase more revenue. They need it, 305 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.720 and we'll also look at some of the unexpected expenses they had that were 306 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.480 not included in the budget, and of course one of those is Kinny Payne. 307 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:47.240 All right, don't go anywhere. It's coffee and company. We are 308 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:52.200 Field abou Thortons right here on Sports Talk seven ninety Coffee and company. Field 309 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.359 by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven to ninety nit coffee. That's me the 310 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:57.960 company man. Mister John Allen alongside said hey, as we're about halfway through 311 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.880 on a warm, very warm Monday, and let's get to the text line. 312 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.680 Five two six five three zero seven ninety is the number if you guys 313 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.119 want to text in on the L and N Federal Credit Union text line. 314 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:11.920 I don't I don't want to neglect you guys too much. But when we 315 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:18.039 were talking earlier about the Louisville Athletic Department budget and just some of the takeaways 316 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:22.599 from their recent ULA board meeting last week, i'd mention just some things that 317 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:27.079 they can do that can probably save more money than you'd realize. And if 318 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:32.279 you do enough of those things that just you know, save you I don't 319 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:38.039 know, couple hundred thousand a year to no longer use this company for transportation, 320 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.119 use this I mean, again, I have no clue what the actual 321 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.240 prices would be, but there are some things you could cut that if you 322 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.119 do enough of it, that you could actually create money by eliminating those expenses 323 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:52.839 that can help you start paying players. But you're going to have to do 324 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:57.160 before too long. But I'd mentioned the hotel stays that they would have for 325 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:03.359 Louisville football that I remember learning about it during Charlie Strong's time here, and 326 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.759 I know Bobby still did it. I'm not sure if if Brahm does it 327 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:10.559 or not, but we had somebody who wrote in This is from Steve who 328 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:14.559 says that Howard Snellenberger actually started putting the team up in the executive inn when 329 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.279 he coached U of L. So maybe that's when it started. And look, 330 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:19.759 I'm sure there's some benefits to having everybody there the night before to make 331 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:22.759 sure you know, as best you can get in everybody on the same page, 332 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:26.400 same environment. There's a curfew that kind of stuff, but you could 333 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.359 probably do that and not you know, block off an entire hotel whatever that 334 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.519 costs. And I'm not sure if they're doing that. And maybe that's more 335 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.039 valuable than some other things they could do that would save money. I'm just 336 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:40.880 referencing things that I feel like, to me at least, seemed like a 337 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:42.160 waste of money. But I guess it's not a waste of money if you 338 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:45.519 have it. But here's what I do know, U of L and many 339 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.359 other schools across the country don't just have a surplus of twenty plus million dollars 340 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:55.279 sitting around that they can just readily use to pay these athletes. So anyways, 341 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.279 here are some other numbers from the board meeting last week that I found 342 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.400 to be I don't know if i'd say interesting, but at least, you 343 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:08.599 know, notable. So football tickets sales has generated twenty six point two million 344 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:15.039 dollars, which you know, that's to me, that sounds pretty substantial. 345 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.079 But comparatively speaking, I'm not really sure where louisvill would rank, but twenty 346 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.039 six point two million to me, sounds like a lot of money. Men's 347 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.559 basketball tickets those sales came up one point nine They came up one point nine 348 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:32.279 million short of the budget. They also have acc legal costs that have cut 349 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:36.319 into some of the money that has been provided by the league. The ACC 350 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:38.640 Network studio that is on campus, which by the way, the ACC required 351 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:48.240 every ACC member to have their own studio. Uh And apparently the projections exceeded 352 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:53.200 revenue projections by four hundred thousand dollars. And let's see the one point five 353 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.799 million over the budget on travel costs that was that was last year, and 354 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:02.359 then Kenny Paynes buy out. The cash expense was three point four million. 355 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:08.160 So obviously, you know, Kenny Payne is going to still receive money from 356 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.960 u of L from now until I mean, I think it's kind of think 357 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:17.079 it's quite a while. I mean maybe over the next three years. So 358 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:19.839 I don't know if that cash payment was just a big you know, to 359 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:22.119 get a bunch of it out of the way before you you know, to 360 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.079 where now you're paying him. I don't know. Well, here's what we 361 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.000 do know. Kenny Payne got away with a lot of money and did nothing 362 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:34.759 but cause damage to this program. And I know a lot of people see 363 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:37.880 that number in there, just like man that you know, they feel like 364 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.640 the university, they love the program, they loves being robbed, and I 365 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:47.160 get it. I can't disagree. But that's just how these contracts work. 366 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:53.519 There's nothing quite like it, because at some point winning and losing is not 367 00:22:53.680 --> 00:23:00.440 how you are evaluated in performance under these contracts. I mean, I don't 368 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.559 want to go down this path again because it leads to nowhere. But every 369 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:07.079 now and then, like right now, I just think about it. On 370 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:12.559 what planet is your job as a coach? Not? Like how can you 371 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:17.960 not be fired with cause for being bad at your job? Like it just 372 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.759 is it is crazy how that works out. I mean, you could lose 373 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.839 every game in your entire career and if they don't have cause to fire you, 374 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:30.480 they will pay you every dime that's on the contract. And I just 375 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:37.039 think it's wild that cause cannot be you know, you can't say you have 376 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:41.799 to win X number of games type of thing. Yeah, I mean it's 377 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:48.519 I don't know. I mean I think there could be clauses within a contract 378 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:49.799 that do buy you a little bit of time, But at the end of 379 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:53.000 the day, like, I don't know how we're not in a point where 380 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:57.920 after two years Kenny Payne can have the record that he has and it not 381 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.839 be a well we're going to exercise this clause because clearly we now see that 382 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.880 there's been nothing done to show that this is a good investment and in fact, 383 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.240 you owe us money. Bum. I doubt that would ever be in 384 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:15.599 any contract. But it's just crazy to me. It takes me back every 385 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.279 time. I mean, it just kind of stops me my track seeing and 386 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.480 thinking about somebody being able to make that much money and they did nothing for 387 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:30.279 that money. I mean crazy. Also, assistant coach and support staff buyouts 388 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.480 of four hundred thousand dollars. I mean, that's that's not I mean that's 389 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.000 a lot of money. I mean that's not a lot of money when we're 390 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.240 talking about like the salary for a head coach of football or basketball. But 391 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:48.839 I mean still that's a lot. Also, some unbudgeted expenses that they had, 392 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.920 meaning these are payments they had to make that were not in the budget. 393 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.839 And look, that happens every you know, every every every business, 394 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.240 which that's what this is. The UL Athletic Department is a business. Uh, 395 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.119 and they're going to have expenses that come up. Doesn't mean that you 396 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:04.440 can't afford it and you had to, you know, take out a loan. 397 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.279 It just means it was not in the budget. One of those was 398 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.359 a final payment to Papa John, who got two million for the naming right 399 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:17.160 settlement. Obviously, Pat Kelsey's buyout was one point one million dollars. The 400 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:25.319 ACC Championship game cost you four hundred thousand dollars to go to like the everything, 401 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:29.240 Like the overall athletic department expense was fore und k to go there, 402 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.279 which I mean they have to pay to go to play USC as well. 403 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:36.079 I mean they have to pay to travel. Yeah, I mean, oh, 404 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:37.400 okay, yeah, that's what the expense is, just to travel. 405 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.319 I mean, I mean, yeah, if you play in the ACC Championing, 406 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.519 you're not paying to get in. You're not buying very weird, You're 407 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:45.519 not buy Yeah, I mean that's all looks it's operational costs, Like that's 408 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:49.359 what all this is, like operational costs to keep this thing rolling right, 409 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.400 like you have to have. I mean one of the unbudgeted expenses was five 410 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:57.519 hundred and forty thousand dollars in credit card fees. That was over budget for 411 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:03.599 the credit card, I suppose, so some other budget challenges for next season. 412 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.000 They only have six home football games, which I feel like that's normal, 413 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:10.440 but I guess at times you've had seven, and I think there's a 414 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:15.680 rare year where they had eight, but they have six also losing Indiana on 415 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.759 the schedule. I mean, you replace them with Jacksonville State. What I 416 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.799 don't know is Indiana they bought out of that deal, right, yes, 417 00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.920 but I don't know what that you know. I feel like it was around 418 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.119 a million. Yeah, I don't remember the exactly. That'll probably be made 419 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.200 up for, but I don't know because you've got to keep in mind, 420 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.920 I mean, Indiana, despite being not a great football program, you replace 421 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.160 them with Jacksonville State to where you know, you have to pay Jacksonville State 422 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.720 to come in here, right, that's that's a by game. So if 423 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:51.039 if because Indiana in Louisville, that that are you know, those are those 424 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:52.640 are two Power five programs. They're not paying each other to play each other. 425 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.359 It's not a by game. So when you have to go pay Jacksonville 426 00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:00.200 State to come and play you if that's a million dollars you pay, which 427 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.000 is not crazy. I don't know the actual number, but some of these 428 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.640 schools get over a million to go pay to get their ass kicked. I 429 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.319 mean that's essentially what they're doing. And I hope that's what we pay Jacksonville 430 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:14.160 State to come in and get a butt whooping, But you know that's unexpected 431 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.039 expense. So again, if it's a million even and that's what the buyout 432 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:18.799 was, then I guess it's a wash. But you know, if they 433 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.839 bought out it was less than that and you have to pay, Jackson will 434 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.480 state that's a loss. You also have six road trips to California because of 435 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.319 the new league members. That's going to be expensive and that's certainly a challenge 436 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:36.079 for the budget. And then this is also listed evolution of NCAA rules, 437 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.160 which basically means more family members are allowed to come on recruiting visits, et 438 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.200 cetera. So when they when they change these rules, and I think they're 439 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.599 also going to make it to where And this is one of those things that 440 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.359 I didn't think of this instantly whenever the news broke, But I'm pretty sure 441 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:57.079 there's been a change made to official visits that players can take. My wrong 442 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.279 on that there is. I believe they unlimited. Yeah, they'll have a 443 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.240 certain amount that they can only take. It's whatever they want. So I 444 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.759 mean I'm thinking, hell, yeah, that's cool. Like Nope, that 445 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.079 gives you even less recruiting restrictions. Everybody, you know, you can host 446 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:12.839 it. You know, these guys can take as many trips as they want. 447 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.880 You have to worry about a guy that you like not being able to 448 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.920 take an official because he's already taken five. But I'm sure those that work 449 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.519 kind of behind the scenes within athletic departments within the college landscape are thinking, 450 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:23.960 Man, that's gonna be a lot more money, right. You know, 451 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:26.680 those official visits are paid for by the school, by the way, and 452 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.480 it's not just paying for a kid to get on a plane. It's paying 453 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.880 for a kid and maybe eight people with him. So that's more money that's 454 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.160 going to be. I mean, that's and that adds up too. Right. 455 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.519 We're not just talking about football, we're talking about basketball, other sports 456 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:47.400 too. So we'll talk more about the the the takeaways from last week's ULL 457 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.759 the board meeting later, because I do have some thoughts on their upcoming revenue 458 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.440 goals, meaning some things they're trying to, you know, goals they're trying 459 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:56.960 to accomplish that of course, will bring them in more revenue, which is 460 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.319 needed, there's no doubt about it. And it's not just say that. 461 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.279 You know, Louisville needs money because they're they're broke. Everybody in college athletics 462 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:11.119 needs more money now because of the annual twenty million to twenty two million dollars 463 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.880 that you are going to be expected to pay players. Now, will everybody 464 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:22.680 be able to do it? Certainly not. But I'm actually more curious to 465 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.839 see how creative these schools who don't have as much money are when it comes 466 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:33.000 to the messaging. Because those who can pay twenty two million annually to ever 467 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.400 you know across the board, and who knows what that actually trickles down to 468 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.960 when it comes to each sport. But if you're somebody that you know, 469 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.240 hey, our school could only come up with ten million to spread across the 470 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:48.079 entire university, I'm curious to see what kind of marketing and messaging you you 471 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.519 put in front of that to where it's not I mean, it's gonna be 472 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:56.079 weaponized against you oftentimes. But yeah, college sports has changed so much off 473 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.759 the field in the last few years, and it's about to be even more 474 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.640 different once schools are you know, paying these players, which will be happening 475 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.960 before too long. All right, if you're somebody that you know in your 476 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.799 thirties, it could be happening to you before too long. That's low TE 477 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.400 right. You know a lot of dudes, especially those that are in shape, 478 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.799 they go to the gym, they're manly men. They they probably would 479 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.480 laugh if I mentioned they could have low T because they're thinking low T. 480 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.240 Did you just see that that set I just repped out over there? Well, 481 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:33.200 lo tessosterone. It's natural, right, And some people could get their 482 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.640 levels checked and be not where they need to be, but it won't like 483 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.640 it hasn't impacted you yet because everybody's different, right, not everybody is the 484 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:45.920 same. So you could have low T and not even know it, or 485 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:51.039 you could have, you know, symptoms that you are thinking to yourself, 486 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.160 like why is this the case, and you just assume, well, guess 487 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.079 it's just because I'm getting older. You'd chalk it up to father time. 488 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.279 You blame him, and he is at fault here to an extent. But 489 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:08.519 when it comes to your testosterone, every year when you get to your thirties, 490 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.400 you lose a certain percentage, a small percentage, of course, but 491 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.559 it adds up. You lose the testosterone, and your doctor when you go 492 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.720 get blood work done, lab work, you know there's a humongous range of 493 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.119 testosterone to where it's not going to probably alarm your doctor. If your levels 494 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:29.400 are in the range of somebody that's closer to sixty but you're actually thirty five, 495 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.799 well that's probably If that's the case and that's you, it's probably because 496 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.000 that's probably why you're a lethargic. That's probably why you're developing some extra flab 497 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.759 around your waist. Maybe the man boobs are getting out of hand. It's 498 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.240 because the testosteronees lost, So do something about it. Reach out to my 499 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:45.200 friends at the Love of Men's Clinic. They can help you with that. 500 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.400 They've helped me Lovemen's Clinic dot com. Check them out online, give them 501 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:53.319 a call five two four four four thousand. All right, quick break will 502 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.920 come back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along. Get back 503 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.440 to the text line as well, so keep it locked right here. Coffee 504 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:06.240 and Company, Philbeth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety all right, So we 505 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:12.400 had a caller earlier who referenced an old call he'd made to Adam Lefkoe, 506 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.960 who, for those who don't know, Adam lefko used to work here in 507 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.519 the Louisville market for Whas eleven and he has since become you know, a 508 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.519 big deal. I mean, he's I'm not even really sure what his title 509 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:29.319 is, but I know he works for Turner TNT and you see him on 510 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:34.319 He's a studio show host for the Inside the NBA. I mean he's he's 511 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:39.160 heavily involved in tn t's NBA coverage. Also has his own podcast that's become 512 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.240 pretty popular. Yeah, I mean, just to give my main leftco the 513 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.839 proper credits here for his accomplished resume. He serves as the host for NBA 514 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.480 on T and t's Inside the NBA Studio show. He also hosts Tuesday editions 515 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.960 to the show, filling the role which Ernie Johnson's known for. Shaq and 516 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.000 Dwayne Wade as well as WNBA player Candice Parker r on air with him. 517 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:06.599 And he also has studio coverage for the NAA Tournament, which makes total sense 518 00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:12.720 given the fact that you know that's a Turner tn T CVS deal. And 519 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.559 yeah, this is the other part of his podcast that I was not familiar 520 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:21.519 with. So in December of this past December, he became the co host 521 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.920 of The Big Podcast, which is Shaquille O'Neal's podcast. So he in Shack 522 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.200 do a podcast together and he's also I mean, he's on Dan Patrick a 523 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.720 lot, so he used to be here Louisville wasn't for a very long and 524 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.960 I think he always knew he was aiming to bigger and better things. But 525 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.400 when in Louisville, he did a great job for WJS eleven and got to 526 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.480 know him a little bit. And you know, I feel like if I 527 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:43.119 texted him he'd return the text, but like if he didn't, it wouldn't 528 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.880 shock me, because you know, he's kind of, you know, in 529 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.319 a different world now. But somebody on the text line fobout two six five 530 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.559 three zero seven ninety is the number if you want to text in on the 531 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.759 L and N Federal Credit Union text line, says Nick. Correct me if 532 00:33:53.799 --> 00:34:00.319 I'm wrong. I've heard Adam Lefko was supposed to be the seven ninety KRDST. 533 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.680 Well, if you can provide more, I mean, I think i'll 534 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.039 this. I forgot all about that even as we were talking about him earlier. 535 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.960 But yes I can. Here's the story about Adam Lefko. I don't 536 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.400 think I'll get in trouble for sharing this because I don't think it matters at 537 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:20.039 this point. This was ten years ago. Roughly maybe even I guess close 538 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.079 to ten years. Maybe maybe a little bit longer. I don't know. 539 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.800 Anyways, he was here in Louisville and at the time, and I don't 540 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.599 know why this. I don't know why this changed. I mean, I 541 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:36.480 know I have some theories. But it used to be really it was a 542 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.960 regular thing that if Tony and Dave were out as the acting underdogs they were 543 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:47.800 on vacation, one of the local sports anchors for the TV stations would fill 544 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:53.320 in. Like we used to have a relationship with w was it Way three 545 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.039 Now our news partners are. I mean, we still have relationship with him. 546 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.039 Everybody around here is pretty friendly when it comes to local media, but 547 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.559 our actual deal through iHeart our news partner is WK. I used to do 548 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:06.760 Wave three. So back in the day, if Tony and Dave were out 549 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:12.559 when they were on the underdogs, or you know, let's say Joby and 550 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.880 Denny were out, I mean, we usually have an internal filling. But 551 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.679 I think even whenever you know, Jody Dimmling was out because he used to 552 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.400 host the morning show before he moved on from radio full time, and it 553 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.880 would be one of the Way three guys, like a Kendrick Haskins or maybe 554 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.559 a John Bowle. At that time, Kent Taylor was was with Wave three. 555 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.360 Now he's with WOKHY. So it's just a known thing that, like, 556 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.119 hey, if guys are gonna be on vacation, a program director would 557 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.199 call some of these guys and they would come in and fill in. It 558 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.360 was perfect because they are very well plugged into the local sports around here. 559 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.480 It's what they do, it's their job, and at that point, I 560 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.519 feel like they really liked doing radio. Maybe radio, you know, is 561 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.360 now not cool for those guys, but I would love for it to and 562 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:53.119 I'm sure money, I mean, how they got paid to do it. 563 00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.119 Maybe there was some budget reasons. I don't know why that changed, but 564 00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.000 it used to be a known thing that if we weren't going to be here 565 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.920 on vacation or whatever it may be, they go. The first calls were 566 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:09.480 too those guys, and not only were they most of the time willing to 567 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:13.119 do it, they were good like it. It was a good situation, 568 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.719 I feel like for everybody involved. And I don't know why that ended, 569 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.920 but at one point left Coo was that guy. So whenever Jody left Leftko 570 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.039 came in and did. I don't know. I feel like it might have 571 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.760 been an everyday thing, or maybe it was a few days a week, 572 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.840 but whenever they were trying to figure out what they wanted to do. Actually, 573 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.559 never mind, I take that pack. This was when this was when 574 00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.440 Drew left. That's what they were trying to figure out what they were going 575 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.519 to do. Because Jody ended up getting the job later, but at the 576 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:45.440 time, whenever Drew left and went across the street, essentially they were trying 577 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.400 to figure out what they were going to do and Leftko was one of those 578 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.920 guys that I think one of the job. I shouldn't say that for sure, 579 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.280 but you know, I don't think he'd be doing it as much as 580 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:57.840 he did if he wasn't interested in potentially doing both, meaning being a sports 581 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.480 anchor and reporter for WHS and then doing radio in the morning. And he 582 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.480 was good. I mean, clearly, the guy's talented. I mean, 583 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.440 he's an entertainer, he knows his stuff, he's sharp. He wouldn't be 584 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.079 where he is today without that. But and and everybody wanted him to be 585 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.400 the guy. Like I remember as a listener at that time, I think 586 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.320 I was I wasn't able to. I mean, I hadn't broken in and 587 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:20.199 gotten a chance to make radio my my my career, my full time job. 588 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.639 But I was working for another station in the market, doing things, 589 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.039 you know, at a lower not I don't, I don't say a lower 590 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:28.760 level, but I mean, I guess it was a lower level. But 591 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.920 you know what I mean, I was I wasn't doing a three hour show 592 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.960 every day, so I would listen, and I grew up listening to sports 593 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.440 radio. And I'm still a huge nerd for the industry, if you want 594 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.679 to call it that. And left Goo was great, and a lot of 595 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.679 people, myself included, kind of wanted him to be the guy because he 596 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.159 was good, he's entertaining. He was young, but not, you know, 597 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.719 not like a young kid like I. Some you know, I remember 598 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.880 the first time I ever hosted a show on this station with people calling in, 599 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.840 who's this kid? I don't know. It's because the things I said 600 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:00.039 or the way I sounded, but I I guess that sounded very young. 601 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.239 You don't have to worry about that with Left COO. So they ended up 602 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.559 not and I say they these are people who no longer work here at iHeart. 603 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.960 They decided to not offer him the job, knowing he would have done 604 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.679 a good job, and knowing he would have taken it, because they were 605 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:23.119 fearful that he won't be here long because he's not from here. He's probably 606 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:28.599 going to excel in his career and we may be looking for a new guy 607 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.639 in a year if we hire him. So it used to be something we'd 608 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:35.039 go back and forth about. When I say we, I mean my colleagues, 609 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.079 people I work with. They're just people in in this business, in 610 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:43.800 this market. You know, did they make a big mistake by not hiring 611 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.199 him? And you know they ended up going with Jody, and Jody to 612 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.760 this day is still as connected as anybody to U of L. And that 613 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.000 had its benefits. So it wasn't as if they, you know, they 614 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:58.079 hired the wrong guy but left Coo. You know, he was just different 615 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.360 at that time than I think what you you at that time heard on the 616 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:06.239 airwaves around here. And you know, I get it from a business standpoint, 617 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:07.280 because there's so much that goes into this that people don't realize it. 618 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.679 I'm sure they don't care, but like you need to have a guy that 619 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.360 or girl, you know, somebody on air that you know can work with 620 00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.840 clients that you know, is you know, familiar with the market, the 621 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.679 area of the city, so they can help promote products and services that are 622 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.880 clients pay you know, pay us to promote. So if this guy is 623 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.960 going to be here for a year and he's not from here, and you 624 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.079 know, it just I guess in their mind, it didn't make a lot 625 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.000 of sense. But I also, you know, we'll never know. But 626 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.159 I actually think if he was here and he did really well, he probably 627 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.519 would have left still, right, I mean, how could you not. 628 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:44.559 I mean, he ended up leaving Louisville. I think initially go work for 629 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:50.960 Bleacher Report. Who then I think TN T Turner bought Turner Sports bought Bleacher 630 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:52.840 Report from somebody, and then that's how left Goo kind of worked his way 631 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.360 up to being, you know, one of T and T's top guys. 632 00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.639 So he still would have left, But it would have been cool to see 633 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.360 him do when you know, a show with Pot, with a podcast show 634 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.760 with Shaq every week, to see him on Inside the NBA, which by 635 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.360 the way, is like the most popular sports show there is, it would 636 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:10.960 be cool to say that, you know, and we can't say it. 637 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:14.119 He did work here, he was on the air. I mean, he 638 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.320 was paid, he just wasn't a full time host. Uh, and they 639 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.960 decided not to Uh. I mean again, I don't I don't mind saying 640 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.960 it now. He was bothered that he didn't that they didn't they didn't want 641 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.519 to hire him because he wanted to do it, and he was pretty good 642 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:29.239 at radio. But I'm sure that's I'm sure it's not in his brain once 643 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:32.519 since he left, considering how how much he is flourishing as a as a 644 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.119 pro and I believe in I think I think he lives in New York now, 645 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.199 I think that's where he resides. But yeah, he came on the 646 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:45.440 show a couple of times with me. I think maybe like four years ago. 647 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:47.400 I guess no, probably longer than that, because four years ago it 648 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.599 was the pandemic, but before the pandemic, like writer, during the Patino 649 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.360 stuff, like the Patino fallout, the early part of Max's career. I 650 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.320 think he came on a few times. He was on with Venetti. But 651 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.000 yeah, he's crushing it. He's doing well. So yes, I mean, 652 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.320 I don't remember that being like a local story in the news, but 653 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.719 you are correct that there was an affiliation there and he almost became our morning 654 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:13.679 show host and they decided to go to a different direction. But you know, 655 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:17.360 worked out well for him. Probably not a good look. I mean, 656 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.519 if you explain it, obviously it makes sense, but like, I 657 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:22.840 don't know if it's something we should be saying, Yeah, we we were 658 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:28.119 going to hire Adam Lefko. We've said it not to you. But again, 659 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.880 if you consider it from like all that goes into it, then most 660 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:32.960 people would know you could at least understand why they decided because look, he 661 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.719 might have asked. He might they might have asked him, And I don't 662 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.519 know, it wasn't part of these conversations. I didn't work here yet, 663 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.440 but there might have been a conversation like, hey, do you see yourself 664 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.840 staying here longer than you know your contract at WS eleven. And if he 665 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.360 said no, then I think it would have been a no brainer that we 666 00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:50.280 want somebody who we feel like can grow here and actually you know, be 667 00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.400 here long term. All right, quick break, one hour left, don't 668 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.320 go anywhere, a lot more to get into. Stick with us right here. 669 00:41:54.360 --> 00:42:00.920 It's coffee and Company. Phil but Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Yes, really