WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.320 Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samantha Fay, and 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:08.039 I'm de Bowen, and we're so happy to have you join us for this 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:12.960 interesting show Down the rabbit Hole and through the looking Glass. We're going to 4 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.879 be talking about time slips, dimensions, portals, and all sorts of interesting 5 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:20.800 things. You know, Deb, I've often wondered if the reason why intuitives 6 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:25.559 like us can see flashes into the past or the future, or read the 7 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:30.000 present to determine what's going on with the client is because maybe we have some 8 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:35.560 unknown, unpracticed ability to slip into other dimensions. What if when we are 9 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:41.039 perceiving the future or the past, we're really temporarily peeking into other dimensions of 10 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:45.079 reality. I wondered the same thing, Samantha. Is a fascinating thought, 11 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:48.880 isn't it. It really is. So that's what we're going to be discussing 12 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:53.759 today, time slips and dimensions. A lot of people believe that those who 13 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:58.920 go missing or claim to travel astray are doing so through portals that exist all 14 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:02.880 over the earth. These have been written about in science fiction for years, 15 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:07.040 but do they actually exist? Well. I did a little bit of research 16 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.760 and according to NASA they do. NASA funded researcher Jack Scudder calls them electron 17 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:18.480 diffusion regions or X points, places where the magnetic field of Earth connects to 18 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:23.560 the magnetic field of the Sun, which creates a straight, uninterrupted path from 19 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.840 the Earth to the Sun ninety four million years away. Scudder says these portals 20 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:34.120 open and close several times a day. Now there is some belief that people 21 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:41.560 can create portals through different types of rituals, which I have always found fascinating 22 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:45.400 to consider. If you guys want to go down your own rabbit hole of 23 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:49.959 research, look into Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, and l Ron Hubbard, 24 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:53.959 who worked together for a while before they had a falling out on magical rituals. 25 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.920 Now there's a lot of speculation on what they were doing, you know. 26 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.319 Some say they were trying to raise up the Antichrist to bring Jesus back. 27 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:07.200 Others say they were trying to manifest the Woman of Babylon and they were 28 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.479 doing some type of Babylon ritual in the mid nineteen forties, and many said 29 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:15.919 that they opened a portal in California in nineteen forty six. Prowley reports that 30 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:22.000 soon after he met a being he called Lamb, who many believe looks like 31 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:25.080 a gray alien. And you can google Crowley's Lamb and see the picture he 32 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:30.120 drew of what this being looked like, and you can decide for yourself if 33 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:34.439 it indeed does look like a gray alien. And some people wonder if that's 34 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:38.560 why just one year later we had the incident at Roswell and then all that 35 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:44.919 whole UFO flag that happened in the nineteen fifties and sixties. So who knows, 36 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:49.360 Maybe we can open up our own portals. Isn't that interesting? And 37 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.719 you know, as we talk more later on in the show, I want 38 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:57.800 to talk a bit about portals that I feel like I have experienced in doing 39 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.080 paranormal investigations. We can discuss it now, because I think you can. 40 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:06.560 When I've done paranormal investigations, you can feel them. You sure can. 41 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:12.879 And you know, I remember because part of our job as paranormal investigators is 42 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:19.520 to first look for logical earth bound answers to what's happening in a specific space. 43 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:23.240 And so a lot of times when we've done investigations and somebody says, 44 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:27.759 oh, they feel like there's this sweep of air that's running through their house 45 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.560 all the time that makes them nervous. Well, yeah, that's your heating 46 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:34.159 and air conditioning system taking in stuff. You know, you can feel it 47 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:38.000 flowing up to the vents and whatever. And I don't mean coming out of 48 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.560 events. I mean that return stuff, you know, happening. So sometimes 49 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:46.439 we get debunked with that, but I have I remember one particular investigation that 50 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.360 we did some time ago where I was convinced that I was in a situation 51 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:57.800 where there was just energetic beings of some sort coming through this doorway. And 52 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.560 I don't mean a physical doorway, I mean metaph physical doorway in this house. 53 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.800 And after we did a lot of research, it turned out that there 54 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:09.360 had been a lot of trauma on that property before the house was built, 55 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:14.159 and that there were folks who had lived there and died and were not happy 56 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.279 with this house and the way it had been built on this land. So 57 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:21.120 that's just one example of several that I could give about a paranormal type portal 58 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:26.279 that way. Well, when I was doing the investigation early on in my 59 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:30.319 intuitive career, I worked with the paranormal team that had an electrician and all 60 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.279 sorts of equipment, and they were able to rule out things like, you 61 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:38.160 know, an air conditioning vent overhead, and we go up into the baby's 62 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:42.079 room where most of the activity was happening, and one of the mediums on 63 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:46.079 the team said, Samantha, put your hand all over this wall here and 64 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.639 tell me what you feel. And you know, I'm still super skeptical, 65 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:53.079 and I'm like, okay, So I run my hand down the wall and 66 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:57.079 in this one perfect circle. I mean you couldn't see it with your physical 67 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:00.199 eyes, but when you ran your hand down the wall, you could literally 68 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:05.040 outline a circle that was ice cold on that wall, and it was not 69 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:13.560 ice cold anywhere else on that wall, and the contracting electrician person couldn't figure 70 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.959 out why it was cold in that one area. Yeah, that's one of 71 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:20.199 the reasons we always take digital thermometers with us when we do investigations. It's 72 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:26.959 because it's amazing where on one wall the temperature is I don't know, seventy 73 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:30.839 two point three and you move over two inches and it's fifty five point nine. 74 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:34.120 Well, do you think that people can create portals through trauma or through 75 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:39.319 joy or do you think these portals already exist? I think the portals already 76 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:44.639 exist. Do I think that people become in tuned to them and sometimes attract 77 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:47.920 them, perhaps, but generally speaking, I think they're portals all over the 78 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:53.600 planet. Do you think that's what some of these lay lines are all about. 79 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.839 No, I don't. I think lay lines are an entirely different thing 80 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:02.639 because lay lines are energetic energy fields. They're like metaphysical longitude and latitude lines. 81 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:08.879 But I have read that where the lay lines cross each other, a 82 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:13.399 portal can be created or can already exist. Well, I wouldn't doubt that. 83 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:18.319 I mean I have certainly stood on top of places that lay lines crossed, 84 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:24.639 and what happened. My experience was what happened to me was that my 85 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:30.680 pendulum vibrated in my hand, but it did not swing in any direction, 86 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:33.079 and I felt my body. It was almost like my body was humming, 87 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:38.639 you know how when you had a minor electrical shock. That's what it felt 88 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:43.079 like standing on top of the places where a lay line crossed. But I 89 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.000 think that I don't know that it was a portal to another dimension like we're 90 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:50.040 talking about today. I think it was a I think lay line crossings are 91 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:59.240 a place of real high energy concentration that gives us an unawareness of a metaphysical 92 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.639 being in a metaphysical place, but not that it opens doors to anything that 93 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:09.000 is negative or unruly in any way. Well, I don't think portals are 94 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:13.519 all negative at all. I think some portals are incredibly positive. Okay, 95 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.199 do you think they're all negative? Well, I don't know. I guess 96 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.319 I hadn't ever really put a value judgment on portals. I simply think of 97 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.800 them as, oh, well, just what you said, they all lead 98 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:26.959 to like negative things. I just thought, well, I guess I'm thinking 99 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:31.160 of the paranormal investigations I've done where that was really frightening to the people who 100 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.639 lived there. Well, do you think in the research you did with missing 101 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:39.360 people, do you think they're slipping into these portals or do you think they're 102 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:44.199 just slipping into other dimensions? I think they're slipping into other dimensions. That's 103 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:46.560 when we get to talk about some of the stories that I have to share. 104 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.759 I think it's more of a literally a time slip into another dimension. 105 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.720 Do you want to start with your stories or do you want me to start 106 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.120 with mine? I want you to tell yours first. I'm so excited. 107 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:01.959 Okay, Well, one of the times stories that I really researched is focused 108 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.279 on the Philadelphia Experiment. Now I'll go through the facts of the story, 109 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.879 but really I can't call them facts. Most people believe this whole story is 110 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.959 nothing but a myth of fantasy, a rumor, a hoax. However, 111 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.519 it still has some interesting aspects to it that I think you guys will enjoy 112 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.720 if you haven't already heard of it. During World War Two, the Germans 113 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.160 were building rockets and the Japanese had Kamakazi pilots, and there were all sorts 114 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.480 of advancements in technological things that were going on. The US needed to up 115 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.840 their game, so they were looking for ways to make their ships invisible to 116 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.480 radar. Legend says they worked with Tesla's notes and that Einstein helped out on 117 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:48.480 this project, and out of this story grew the legend of the Philadelphia Experiment. 118 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.639 And here's how it goes. On April twenty eighth, nineteen forty three, 119 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.919 the USS Eldridge had a small crew on board docked at the Philadelphia Naval 120 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:03.679 Shipyard. The USS andrew for Soussoth. I don't know how to say that 121 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.120 Perusthoth was nearby. Between five oh five and five twenty pm, the USS 122 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:15.559 Eldridge began to glow and then became invisible. Sailors on the USS Andrew are 123 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.600 said to have witnessed this. One of them touched the side and received a 124 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:22.879 massive shock. On board the Eldridge, one of the sailors noticed they were 125 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:28.720 suddenly at a different dock. He recognized it as the Norfolk Naval Shipyard in 126 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.679 Virginia, two hundred miles away. Minutes later, they reappeared back in Philadelphia. 127 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.720 Two crew members vanished, some were reportedly fused to the ship. Some 128 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:46.039 are said to have gone insane. One sailor reportedly walked through a wall shortly 129 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.120 after getting off the ship. Two men, Al Blick and Duncan Cameron claimed 130 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:56.279 they jumped off the ship during this portal trip and landed in nineteen eighty three 131 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.639 in Montauk, New York, where time travel experiments were being done. We 132 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.320 have more on that later. Soon after, a newspaper article appeared reporting a 133 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.679 fight between sailors from the USS Eldridge who got into a fight in a bar. 134 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:16.600 Witnesses said the sailors disappeared right in front of them. Then, twelve 135 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:20.840 years later, in nineteen fifty five, the Office of Naval Research received a 136 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:26.000 book written by MK Jessup called The Case for UFOs. Inside the book, 137 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.399 the naval researchers received were written notes, all handwritten notes, in all the 138 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:37.840 margins. These handwritten notes included information about the USS Eldridge, Einstein's theory of 139 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:45.039 relativity, his unified field theory, and time travel. The ONR asked Jessop 140 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.000 if he had sent them the book. He said he hadn't, but he 141 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.399 did recognize the handwriting that were written in the margins of the book from letters 142 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:58.559 he'd received from a man who called himself Carlos Alende. Carlos said he was 143 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.120 the man on the USS Andrew who had touched the side of the Eldridge and 144 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:07.399 received a shock. Carlos claimed Einstein was on yet another ship watching this experiment. 145 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.320 When he saw Carlos get shocked, he invited him on his ship to 146 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.960 see if he was okay. Carlos claims the two became friends and that he 147 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.919 became a sort of student of Einstein's. Einstein shared his theory that would allow 148 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.559 travel at four times the speed of light. He said the disappearance of the 149 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:31.360 Eldridge happened because it was sent down a faster than light tunnel. One of 150 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:37.759 the ONR officers, Captain Sidney Sherby, published Jessup's UFO book with Carlos's notes 151 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.799 handwritten in it, and I just found that interesting because it shows that maybe 152 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.919 he thought there was something to it. Now another rabbit hole anyone can go 153 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.360 down if they want is Shortly after all of this happened, the author of 154 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:56.039 the UFO book, MK. Jessup, committed suicide, and it was just 155 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.480 suspicious to me. He's a very intelligent man. He has degrees in astronomy, 156 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:05.159 He almost had his PhD in astronomy. He was very well regarded by 157 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:11.279 everyone, and he chose to commit suicide in a park outside which I don't 158 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.639 know. Just research it if you guys are interested in this, because I 159 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:20.480 find people committing suicide connected to these conspiracy stories. It just happens too much. 160 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.080 So this was all quickly put down to a hoax and a legend. 161 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.480 Shiplogs have no record of the Eldridge in Philadelphia at that time. There are 162 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:33.919 no shiplogs showing that the Eldridge and the Andrew Ship were ever in the same 163 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:39.679 port at the same time. Einstein was in Philadelphia in nineteen forty three, 164 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.879 and Carlos A. Linde's actual name turned out to be Carl Allen. He 165 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:48.799 served from nineteen forty three to nineteen fifty two. However, thanks to declassified 166 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:54.120 documents, we do know that some secret stuff was going on in Philadelphia, 167 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.679 including a secret test where men died. There are reports that the Philadelphia experiment 168 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:05.000 was actually called Rainbow Project. This initially began in the nineteen thirties when the 169 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:13.320 Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton University was studying basic physics using electromagnetics. The 170 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.080 government is said to have gotten involved during the war. Allegedly they were trying 171 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.879 to see if they could use electromagnetics to make ships invisible to radar. People 172 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:30.120 also say the Phoenix Project was created around this time to use chemical and propaganda 173 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:35.440 to influence minds. Out of this, some speculate that mk Ultra was created. 174 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.720 So I just want to pause there to see if you have any questions 175 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:45.120 or comments more than we've got time for me to ask. But yeah, 176 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.639 I think I was going along just fine with this story and saying okay, 177 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:54.279 you know, I understand the skeptics and the debunkers of this kind of stuff. 178 00:13:54.360 --> 00:14:00.360 But I'm willing to entertain a thought that I don't know anything about until 179 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.399 I prove otherwise. So I was doing just fine with your story until we 180 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.279 got to the guy writing about Einstein, and then I went, no, 181 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.320 I just don't think that's possible. That just doesn't feel right to me that 182 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.759 Einstein would be doing that, And of course you've said that that is highly 183 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.679 unlikely. So on one hand, I listened to this story and I think, 184 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:26.240 Wow, wonder there's so much that goes on with research in government research 185 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:31.039 and other kinds of research sponsored by other organizations that we don't know about. 186 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:35.519 And I know that, so I accept the notion that certainly there were things 187 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:41.200 happening then and are today that we as the general public don't know about. 188 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:48.279 Do I believe that it is possible for an entire warship to disappear and go 189 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.600 into another dimension? Sure? I could believe that, because I don't think 190 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:56.159 that that size and spin and weight and all that stuff matters in this kind 191 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:00.639 of metaphysical world, because it's just Adam's moving around. Really, So I 192 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:05.240 will accept that this very well could have happened, and the fact that this 193 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.480 man who wrote this book killed himself or in some way died in a very 194 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:16.000 public place. Makes me wonder what might have been going on here that we're 195 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.919 not really probably ever going to know. Well. And before people write this 196 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.039 all off as a tinfoil hat story, mki Ultra really did happen, and 197 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:31.200 they really did experiment on a Harvard students, one of them was Ted Kaczinski, 198 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:35.720 who later ended up becoming the Unifarmer. And so all of these people 199 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:41.159 who were involved in this Philadelphia experiment are said to have gone and sen and 200 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:45.559 I just find it interesting that it looks as though Ted Kaczinski did indeed go 201 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:50.320 insane himself when he decided to become the Unifarmer. We also know that the 202 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.639 government has lied to us. Let's not forget nineteen thirty two, when the 203 00:15:54.679 --> 00:16:00.639 Public Health Service began the Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis, and they lied to 204 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.200 six hundred black men, three hundred and ninety nine of whom had syphilis and 205 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:10.320 were actively denied known treatments so they could research it. Nineteen fifty three is 206 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:17.399 when the CIA began its mk Ultra program and they tested drugs developed for interrogation 207 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:22.440 and mind control. Purposes. They did this on prisoners, students, hospital 208 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.080 patients. So we do know that weird stuff has gone on before and that 209 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:30.039 we have been lied to, And I just think that's important to keep in 210 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.399 mind. Some go so far as to say that the Philadelphia experiment was the 211 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:38.840 basis for the Montalk projects. The Montalk Project, located near Plum Island in 212 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.440 Long Island, New York, was allegedly created to see if the government could 213 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:48.120 use electromagnetics to bend minds and to bend time. Many believe they were successful. 214 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.320 Now let me just say a word about Plum Island if you don't know 215 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.600 about that. It is home to the Plum Island Animal Disease Center. It 216 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.120 was opened by the US Department of Agriculture in nineteen in the nineteen fifties, 217 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:06.440 and it is now under the Department of Homeland Security. They make sure animal 218 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.559 diseases like foot and mouth disease don't get out into the public. However, 219 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:15.839 conspiracy theories abound that what's really going on in Plumb Island is biological weapons research 220 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:22.680 and animal hybrid experimentations. These rumors have been circulating for fifty years. They 221 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:27.519 go really far deb Some people think that lime disease was created here, that 222 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:33.720 the West Nile virus was created here. In two thousand and three, I 223 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.039 believe it was. It was either two thousand and three or two thousand and 224 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.880 six. It moved to the Department of Homeland Security after they received information intel 225 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:48.359 that terrorists were looking at infiltrating this center for their biological weapon research or animal 226 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.720 diseases. Now, these rumors about what's really going on at Plumb Island highlighted 227 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:57.880 a lot of strange other rumors when a strange looking animal that was nicknamed the 228 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:03.680 Montalk Monster washed ashore in Long Island in two thousand and three. If you 229 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.039 google Montalk Monster, you can see a picture of it. It's this hairless, 230 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.119 spooky looking thing. And what I find so funny is the skeptics, 231 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:14.119 you know, the people who say, oh, it's all a hoax. 232 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:18.079 They said it was a deceased raccoon. Now, if you google that photo, 233 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.480 I don't know how you can see a raccoon in that, but you 234 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:25.200 know, who am I to judge? So the Montalk project is going on 235 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:30.680 right near Plumb Island. It's based in Camp Hero, which is more commonly 236 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.720 called the Montalk Air Force Station, The stories surrounding the Montalk project took off 237 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:40.640 after a series of books on the alleged government program was written by Preston Nichols 238 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:45.160 in the eighties. Nichols claimed that through remembering repressed memories, he realized he'd 239 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:51.400 been abducted for years and taken to Montalk for experiments. Nichols has degrees in 240 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:56.920 psychology and engineering. He claimed that government agents were using electromagnetic radiation to transmit 241 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:02.960 ideas directly into people's head. He claims they were made to participate in mind 242 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.960 control studies, time travel, and alien interactions. He also says the government 243 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.519 was working on a weapon that could induce schizophrenia. He claims the funding came 244 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.240 from a stash of Nazi gold found in the aftermath of World War Two that 245 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:21.359 amounted to ten billion dollars. He says to mask the underground facility, the 246 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:26.799 government donated the Montalk site to the Wild Refuge Park. He claims many people, 247 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:30.920 mainly the homeless, were abducted. Some claimed that runaway boys were also 248 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:36.880 abducted and became known as the mon Talk Boys because it's believed their young minds 249 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.240 were impressionable and easier to work with. He says psychic abilities were greatly enhanced. 250 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:47.119 He said they developed time travel through a time bortal they created. Through 251 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:52.319 this time tunnel or portal, they were able to contact extraterrestrials, and some 252 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:59.000 even claim that inventions such as the Internet were created here before Camp Hero became 253 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.799 an official wildlife park. Brian Minnick explored inside the radar tower, where he 254 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.720 found documents and sealed entrances showing that the base of Camp Hero was far larger 255 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:12.240 and more complex than thought, and that the base had operated for much longer 256 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:18.920 than the government admitted. Minnick found records of mass quantities of food ordered to 257 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.119 the base in the late eighties, long after the military said they had left 258 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:29.559 Montak. He also produced photos of rooms with brightly painted walls and psychedelic patterned 259 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:34.839 wallpaper, making some believe that captive children were actually subjected to acid tests and 260 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:40.599 other mind control things, which makes everyone, I'm sure, think about stranger 261 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.599 things and the phenomenon that that show is. A lot of people say that 262 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:51.000 Eleven and characters such as Her were created directly from these stories of children being 263 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:56.839 kept at this camp and studied and practiced on. So what do you think 264 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.279 of that? It's mind boggling. So many poles can be a conspiracy theorist. 265 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.559 I can go there with the idea of that they are all sorts of 266 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:10.440 things that happen from officials to people that we don't know about, and it 267 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:14.759 just terrifies me. It really frightens me. Do I believe it's probably true? 268 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.279 I do. How about you? I don't know if I believe it's 269 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:25.519 all true. I just find it odd that this Carlos Alende man talks about 270 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:30.200 this happening. Al bielit talks about this happening. Duncan Cameron says this happened. 271 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:36.640 Peter Nichols said this happen. I can't find any documentation, and I 272 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:41.279 could be wrong, but I couldn't unearth it that showed that these men all 273 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.160 together knew each other and talked and cooked this up. And so I do 274 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.160 think where there's smoke, there's fire. I do think something happened. I 275 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:53.680 don't know if all that they said happened happened, because it does seem quite 276 00:21:53.720 --> 00:22:00.599 fantastical. It frustrates me that every time someone is a whistleblower, or someone 277 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.759 talks about something they're not supposed to, they either end up suiciding, themselves, 278 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:10.400 or they turn out to be mentally unstable, and I just find that 279 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:17.000 coincidental. Either the powers that be discredit them and make them appear or show 280 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:22.279 that they are insane, or these men or women who share these stories disappear 281 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:27.119 or commit suicide, and I just find that kind of odd. Do you 282 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:32.200 know. I think there's a lot of this kind of stuff that is so 283 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:36.480 fascinating to us that will never be able to prove. They'll never There'll never 284 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:40.599 be a time where we can say conclusively, yes, this really did happen, 285 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:44.599 or no, it really did not happen. Maybe I'm behind the times 286 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:48.319 with what's going on in the media, but what is all this hype this 287 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.319 past week about storming Area fifty one? What is that about? It's just 288 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.200 some internet thing. My kids have been talking about it, so I think 289 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.960 it's with the younger people. But they're talking about get a group of people 290 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.920 to go and just see what's really going on there. I think it's silly 291 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:10.480 personally, because since the government has come out and said, yes, this 292 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:15.000 Air Force base is what you all call Area fifty one, since they came 293 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.960 out and admitted to that, I am sure anything there that would give us 294 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:23.440 clues into whatever they've been doing has been moving do not think. Yeah, 295 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:26.359 So if you're going to go anywhere, I would go to the Air Force 296 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:30.200 base in Ohio. I mean that's where all the freaky stuff seems to be 297 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.200 happening anyway. But you know, at least, like I said, I 298 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.759 love the young generation. I think they are amazing. I think they are 299 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:42.039 active and outspoken and kind, and I think they're going to get stuff done 300 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:47.839 for our society and ways that we haven't seen since the age of Enlightenment. 301 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:51.400 I really have a lot of hope and faith in our younger people, and 302 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:56.079 so at least they're doing something about these conspiracy theories. At least they're interested 303 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.119 in something more than looking at their phone. I don't think they'll find anything. 304 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.160 I don't even know if it'll happened, but I don't think it's the 305 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:03.920 I don't think they're going to get anything if they did it, either. 306 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:11.000 I think that's become such a publicly known situation that anything that might have evidently 307 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:15.440 been there has certainly been removed. I do respectfully disagree with you a little 308 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:21.240 bit. I hope that some of this information will come to light. If 309 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:25.359 you look at all the stuff that was hidden, for example, during the 310 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:29.559 Spanish Inquisition. A lot of that has now come to light. So I 311 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:33.519 don't know if it'll come to light in our lifetime, but I do think 312 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.880 eventually it will. I mean, we mentioned Project paper Clip on the show 313 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:44.039 a couple of months ago, the fact that we were actively recruiting known Nazis 314 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:48.839 to work on our space program in the nineteen fifties. You would never think 315 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.799 that would come to light, but it did, and now we know it's 316 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.720 true. I do hope that some of this will come to light, and 317 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:57.759 I do think. Me clarify, I didn't say I didn't hope it would. 318 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:00.200 I just said I didn't think it. No, I know you said 319 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.680 you didn't think it would. I'm just saying I think it will. It 320 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.640 do too. 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Okay, 333 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:07.000 dev go ahead and start with your tales of dimensional I want to take 334 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.880 us back in time to a time that we don't often hear about this phenomenon 335 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:17.839 happening, and yet this is probably one of the best known of the time 336 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.759 slips stories that I was able to find. Now, it happened in France, 337 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.559 so let me issue hear a caveat in that my French is terrible, 338 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:32.799 so bear with me here. So here's the story. It happened in Versailles, 339 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:38.279 at the Palace of Versailles in the eighteen hundreds. A woman whose name 340 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:45.799 was Charlotte Moberly and a woman whose name was Eleanor Jordaine went to visit the 341 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:52.160 palace in Versailles, and they in August of nineteen oh one went by train. 342 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.559 They remember not thinking much about the palace after touring it, said they 343 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:02.799 decided to walk through the gardens to particular area and then found that it was 344 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:08.079 close to the public. They recollected traveling with a guidebook and said that they 345 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:15.359 became lost after missing the turn for the main avenue in Versailles. They entered 346 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:21.640 a lane where they bypassed their destination, and Charlotte reported that she noticed a 347 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:26.759 woman shaking a white cloth out of a window, and Eleanor said that she 348 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:32.559 saw an old, deserted farmhouse and outside there was an old plow. And 349 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:37.599 so at this point they began to feel dreary and oppressed, and after that 350 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:44.920 they met men who looked like palace gardeners, who gave them directions told them 351 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.920 to go on straight down this walkway. Charlotte said that the men were very 352 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:56.599 dignified officials, dressed in long grayish green coats with small, three cornered hats, 353 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:02.519 and Eleanor reported that she noticed a cottage with a woman holding a jug 354 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:07.200 to a girl in a doorway. They really were walking down this path in 355 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:14.759 Versailles and seeing things that felt and seemed and appeared to them to be very 356 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:22.119 real. And then Eleanor says, everything suddenly looked unnatural, unpleasant. Even 357 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:27.440 the trees seemed to become flat and lifeless, like wood worked into tapestry. 358 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.359 There was no effect of light and shade, and no wind stirred the trees. 359 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.519 And then they reached the edge of the woods, and they came across 360 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.240 a man seated by a garden and a bench, wearing a cloak and a 361 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:48.480 large hat. His appearance was, says Charlotte, most repulsive, his expression 362 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:53.000 odious. His complexion was dark and rough. Eleanor says he looked as if 363 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:57.799 he had had smallpox. And then he had dark eyes that they did not 364 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.680 like at all. And nearby there was a woman sketching on the grass who 365 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.680 looked at them as they crossed a bridge. She later said the woman was 366 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.640 wearing a light summer dress and a white hat with lots of fair hair. 367 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.799 She thought she might be another tourist, but the dress appeared to be old 368 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.200 fashioned. Later, Charlotte says she thought the lady was Marie Antoinette, but 369 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.240 Eleanor didn't see this woman, only Charlotte did. Then they returned to the 370 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.599 palace and joined a party of other visitors, and then they felt like everything 371 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:37.079 was back back to normal. So for some time after this they just didn't 372 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.720 talk about it. It's almost as if they were afraid to bring it up 373 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:47.599 to each other. And then finally Charlotte sends a letter to her sister and 374 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:52.759 says, let me tell you about what happened here, And so she asked 375 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:59.759 Eleanor finally what she thought. And sometime later they began to write separate a 376 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.079 ounce of what had happened to them, what they had experienced during this trip. 377 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:08.440 And it was some time later that eventually they actually ended up writing a 378 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:14.200 book about it. They said that they were they felt like that they were 379 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:18.039 back during the time right before the French Revolution. Now keep in mind that 380 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:23.519 this happened in the early nineteen hundreds. They published their book called an Adventure 381 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:30.640 in nineteen eleven under pseudonyms. For people who aren't familiar with Versailles, Marie 382 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:36.160 and Tooinette had a village replicated on the grounds of Versailles, so she could 383 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:41.599 pretend to be a common peasant, which I think is interesting in its own 384 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:48.160 historical thing to contemplate during these difficult, impoverished times. So they believe that 385 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:55.240 they times lived and were back in Marie Andtoinette's recreated village. Is that is 386 00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:02.000 correct. So one theory is exactly as you say, that these women did 387 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:07.680 not realize that they had gone into this village like atmosphere that Marie Antoinette had 388 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.680 created. It would be like you and I, for example, going to 389 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:18.000 Williamsburg and suddenly walking through the old village in Williamsburg that's a replica of the 390 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.480 early days of that town, and not realizing that we had crossed over into 391 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.720 this place. Right, So that's one theory. Another theory is that they 392 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:33.960 had walked into a party where people were dressed in period costume and performing kind 393 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:40.319 of little plays in this party. Another idea is that they were simply mistaken, 394 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.279 that their memories were inconsistent, that they did not really experience what they 395 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:51.640 said they did and made it all up. We just don't know. Just 396 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:56.240 the fact that they saw that park marked negative looking man makes me think because 397 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.680 every time I watch shows that are I love to watch historical TV shows and 398 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.240 movies, but I always laugh at the actors because they're all so beautiful and 399 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.200 they have perfect teeth and perfect skin, and it makes me think, Gosh, 400 00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:13.079 if we could be in a time machine and just visit these times, 401 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:19.359 people would look so differently. Their skin would be pock marked because I think 402 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.200 like seventy percent of the population had smallpox at some point. Their teeth would 403 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:29.920 be horrible, they would smell odious because people didn't bathe like we do today. 404 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.599 Their clothes would be different, and their demeanor probably would feel more negative 405 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:39.559 than we'd feel and exhibit our energy today because times were more negative back then. 406 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:45.319 I mean, it really was quite a different time where violence. There 407 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.240 was no police force at this time. It was just being created after the 408 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:53.440 French Revolution, so violence was rampant, and people were impoverished and hungry, 409 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:57.960 and they felt they had to fight for everything they got. So just that 410 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.759 one man she saw seems to give it some CreI well, it does, 411 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:06.039 and it's interesting, you know, whether or not it really happened, and 412 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.519 or whether it was fictitious or whatever. One of the interesting things about this 413 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:17.400 particular time slip story is that it has so captured the imagination of people for 414 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.160 so many years, and it's still when if you google time slips, it's 415 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.640 one of the first stories it comes up. And I wonder what it is 416 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:31.599 about this story that makes us so intrigued with it. Well, I think 417 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:36.200 the two women in particular, from what I've read, are pretty believable. 418 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.599 They were both teachers, they were well regarded, they had great reputations, 419 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:44.599 and so I think that's one reason. They also didn't have anything to gain 420 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.720 from sharing this story, but they did have a lot to lose. I 421 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.640 think it's interesting if you look at these timeslip stories, so many of them 422 00:33:53.920 --> 00:34:00.359 happen around bad weather. You'll notice a lot of these stories people share where 423 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.480 you know, there's that famous one where the girl wakes up and her sheets 424 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:07.360 are different in her bed, and she goes to work and she's in a 425 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:12.119 different office and she's with the boyfriend she broke up with eight months ago. 426 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.079 Like that's a pretty well known one. And the weather was kind of off 427 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.320 that day. I think it was raining and thundering, and so it just 428 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:24.360 makes me wonder if all of these dimensions past, present and future and parallel 429 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:31.800 dimensions are existing at the same time, and maybe it's just different energy around 430 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:38.599 us and within us coupled with the electromagnetic energy being affected from the weather. 431 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.559 I don't know. I'm not a sign see person at all, but maybe 432 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.480 all of that creates this perfect storm. For lack of a better word, 433 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.719 these slips came out some of the stories that I'm nice, do you think 434 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.440 And the one next one, for example, I'm going to talk about, 435 00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.840 we didn't have anything to do with whether that we could see or were in 436 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.800 some way forecast, And now whether or not they're electromagnetic things going out farther 437 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.920 into the universe, I don't know. So let me tell you this story 438 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:14.800 about a situation that happened in Oklahoma. This story is often referred to as 439 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:19.639 the Oklahoma White Building, and it happened in the fall of nineteen seventy one 440 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:24.639 where Karl Mark and Gordon, who worked for a cattle feed distributor, were 441 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:30.920 sent to a remote area of Ponca City, Oklahoma to pick up a feeder, 442 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:36.360 and what they found they did not tell or share for forty one years. 443 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.280 So Carl says that they opened the gate, which was barbed wire, 444 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.320 had no lock, and went in. They drove through tall grass to a 445 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.679 tank that sat close to a red barn, and they got out of the 446 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:52.079 trunk, and then they realized that the tank was almost half full and too 447 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.280 heavy to load. So we decided to leave and drove around the red barn 448 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.880 and we saw this large, two story white house with no lights in front 449 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.360 of us. The three of them drove back to the cattle feed company and 450 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.079 the boss said he'd drained the tank and they could pick it up tomorrow. 451 00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.639 So we went back to the location the next night. This time we decided 452 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.360 to go through the big old white house on the hill, and they brought 453 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.920 their shotguns. They drove onto the property over the path they'd made the grass 454 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.840 the day before, and loaded up the tank, and then they pulled around 455 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:29.519 the barn towards the house. And then they went around the barn and there 456 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.400 was no house there. We walked up to the hill where it had stood. 457 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.360 There was no sign of demolition, no foundation, nothing at all. 458 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.039 What we all seemed to witness the night before was no longer there. We 459 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.400 have all talked to each other over the years about this, but none of 460 00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:51.800 us can explain the vision. So what's interesting here for me for this story 461 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.199 is that this story of this building that was there one day, one night 462 00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.920 and not the next is corroborated by three people. They all saw it, 463 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:07.679 and because it's the photograph that's often associated with this story shows a building that's 464 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:12.119 older, not run down or anything like that. That was the image that 465 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:19.440 they saw, but a large farmhouse that was just gone. So the theory 466 00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:25.000 is that they just were transported back in time for just a moment to perhaps 467 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.840 see what had at some point been on that property in that space. And 468 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.360 so they thought, well, we'll just look around while we're here. So 469 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.519 there was a barn, so they went around to the backside of the barn 470 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.800 and up on this hill behind the barn was this white house. And when 471 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.679 they went back the next day, they thought, well, you know, 472 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.920 gee, there's nobody out there. There's not supposed to be anything else on 473 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.119 this property. Let's go look. And they were into the house that we're 474 00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.320 going to go look in the house, and the house wasn't there. That's 475 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.679 fascinating. Do you have another one, let's go to Let's go to England. 476 00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.199 In nineteen ninety six, a couple whose names were Frank and Carol were 477 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:06.440 on Bold Street in Liverpool, apparently that's a fairly large shopping area, and 478 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.320 they split up. Carol was going to go to a book shop, Frank 479 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.159 was going to go look for CDs and music he wanted. So as he 480 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:20.800 walked up the incline past the Lyceum post office slash cafe building that led onto 481 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.400 the main area of this bold street, he suddenly noticed, Frank did that 482 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:30.800 he had entered a strange what he called oasis of quietness, and he said, 483 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.800 Suddenly, a small van that looked something out of the nineteen fifties sped 484 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.159 across his path, honking its horn as it narrowly missed it, and he 485 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:44.719 noticed that the name on the side of the van was Caplain's cp LA an 486 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:51.159 Apostopeus. So when he looked down, there was a confused policeman standing in 487 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.480 the road, and he wasn't sure why the policeman was standing in the road, 488 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.920 but he saw that Dylan's bookstore, where he thought his wife was going, 489 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:07.639 had a different sign over the entrance, and it said Crips Cripps, 490 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:13.320 And so he was really confused, and so he looked in to see that 491 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:17.199 there were not books in the store window as he thought where his wife had 492 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.559 gone, but now this was a store called Crips, full of women's handbags 493 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:29.000 and shoes. So he realized that there were people dressed in clothes from the 494 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:36.679 nineteen forties around him, and he spotted a young woman nearby in who was 495 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:42.960 in her early twenties, dressed in a lime colored sleeveless blouse and the handbag 496 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.400 that she was carrying had a name on it, like handbags do these days, 497 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:52.599 which reassured him that it was still partly nineteen ninety six. He thought 498 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.960 this was really weird because he was seeing two time frames at one time. 499 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:02.960 He felt like he was seeing this handbag store called Crips from another era and 500 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.960 at the same time realizing that the bookstore probably was still there. So he 501 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:15.360 goes inside and he was amazed that the building had completely changed in a flash 502 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:22.039 back to Dylan's Bookshop of the present time. The girl turned to leave and 503 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:28.239 she grasped his arm and said, did you see that? And she said, 504 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.119 I thought it was a clothing shop, but I look around and it's 505 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:37.800 a bookstore. So he was experiencing a time slip in one direction towards the 506 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.119 past, and she, this woman he did not know, was experiencing a 507 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:47.400 time slip towards the future at the same quote time. Wow, So she 508 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.199 was like seeing into his world and he was seeing into hers. Yes, 509 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.239 I wonder if they had some type of a psychic connection. I wonder about 510 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.199 that. And the other thing that I wondered about was what was his wife 511 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.639 doing. I mean, she'd gone into the bookstore. Was the bookstore still 512 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.280 there? And she wasn't experiencing anything. Well, this just all makes me 513 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:13.480 think if all of these dimensions and realities are happening at the same time, 514 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:19.599 doesn't that give credence to what metaphysics teaches in that we create our own reality. 515 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.880 You know how, I've often said that life remember that meditation I had 516 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:28.239 where my guide showed me that life is like being in a Blockbuster for anyone 517 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.840 who remembers Blockbuster, where you can just kind of look at movies and pick 518 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:36.880 which movie you want, you know, like, do you want your your 519 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.719 year to look like a horror movie, a romance movie, a fast action 520 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:45.079 movie, a drama that we get to pick. And I feel like this 521 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.880 gives a lot of credibility to that belief. Well, I do too, 522 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:54.800 and of course it certainly begs to confirm the idea that we create each lifetime. 523 00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.559 As Richard Box says in Illusions, you know. Yeah, for example, 524 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.480 I was doing a reading months ago for a client and she was upset 525 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:09.840 because her partner had decided to start this business that she did not want her 526 00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.679 partner to start. And she was really mad, and she kept saying, 527 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:15.920 I know the business is going to fail. I know it's going to fail. 528 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.639 I know it, and I'm going to be proven right. And I 529 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:24.320 remember thinking she's going to make that happen just to prove herself right. And 530 00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:29.320 sure enough, even though the business was a great idea and I thought it 531 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.039 could do well if both of them were on board and energetically sending positive energy 532 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.559 to that outcome, it did fail. And so it just makes me think, 533 00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.840 with all these stories, what if we are creating our reality in every 534 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:46.119 moment and these things are allowed just to kind of feed the collective unconscious and 535 00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.159 remind us that this is possible, you know. And I've thought a lot 536 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:55.599 about what Einstein said about time in that you know, as we move on, 537 00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.320 it is speeding up. There's also the theory that time is a real 538 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:05.280 because we really only live in the now. If you read Eckert Toole's work. 539 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.280 You know, we're all just in the now, and yet the now 540 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:14.800 may be a matter of perception, with what we sense and what our brains 541 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.880 process. And there's so much about the human brain, the human psyche, 542 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:24.039 the way we what is thinking, you know, all of that. It 543 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.840 just blows my mind. It's just so much to think about, and it's 544 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:32.440 so fascinating to me. It is to me too. You know. There's 545 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.719 a great movie on Netflix for anyone who likes lovely sweet romances. It's called 546 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.719 About Time, and it's about a man who discovers when he turns twenty one 547 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.400 that all the men in his family can travel back in time, not anywhere 548 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.360 in time, but to any scene or moment from their own lifetime. And 549 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.880 so it's really cute because it shows him like falling in love with this girl 550 00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:59.840 and he messes up on the first day, so he goes back in time 551 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.079 to before the first date so he doesn't mess up, and it's really cute. 552 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.880 Anyway, at the end of the movie, I'm not giving anything away, 553 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.159 but at the end of the movie, he decides he's so happy in 554 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:14.559 the present moment he doesn't need to do that anymore, And it's all about 555 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:17.199 learning to live in the time that you have now and embracing it. So 556 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.159 I really recommend that it's called about time, But it does make us think 557 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:28.960 about the possibilities that we have for living in the now, for thinking beyond 558 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:35.480 linear time, and for being co creators with our own universe, our own 559 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:40.199 reality. If our conscious or the collective conscious has us stuck in linear time, 560 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:49.239 can we, through meditation and positive visualization, change at least our little 561 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.079 piece of the reality in this linear time. And I think these stories show 562 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.800 that it can. I think the Philadelphia experiment that we mentioned in the beginning 563 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.079 of the show, if there's any truth to it, is showing that maybe 564 00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:07.800 allegedly some aspects of the government think it is possible, and that possibly we 565 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:14.199 can take from some of these spooky and interesting stories more sol of hope that 566 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:20.599 we can actually move into different dimensions. We don't know how many dimensions there 567 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.760 are. You know, we live in the third dimension, the material world, 568 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.360 this world of duality where we have this illusion of separateness, but we 569 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:34.079 know that there's the fourth dimension that's the astral plane, the dream world. 570 00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.599 This is the dimension that we visit when we sleep. If anyone listening has 571 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.880 tried astral travel or OBEs, it's said that where you go is the fourth 572 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.599 dimension. Many times this is the dimension that's ruled by the law of attraction, 573 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.440 Like anything can happen here. So if you're filled with fear, you 574 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.400 might see fearful things here. If you're filled with love, you will see 575 00:45:54.440 --> 00:46:00.320 positive, loving things here. The fourth dimension contains darkness and life, but 576 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.239 it's also where we can tap the collective unconscious. So if we can reach 577 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.119 the fourth dimension in the dream world, in the astral world, that means 578 00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:14.760 we can reach it in meditation and prayer as well. And if we can 579 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:20.000 tap the collective unconscious in the fourth dimension, then we can use that energy 580 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.719 to create our reality in the third dimension. I was on a website, 581 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:30.239 a physicist's website, and this website is talked about how they were at leasten 582 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.400 and probably more dimensions, And I think that would be a fascinating show for 583 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:39.000 us to do, to just talk about the energy of all the various dimensions. 584 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.159 At some point, it's way too complex for us to deal with them 585 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.119 today in the minute or two we have left. But it was fascinating research. 586 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.320 I think I've asked a lot in meditations and dreams, I've asked to 587 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.000 be given more information on the dimensions, and I always get it's more than 588 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.880 you can understand, it's more than you can comprehend. I think that's true. 589 00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.239 I do too, don't think I can really grasp it all. But 590 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.119 even if you go back to Dante's work, there's always been this belief in 591 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.079 levels of the afterlife. I have seen that explain to me when I've been 592 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:16.559 doing mediumship readings, that there are levels to the afterlife. I believe that 593 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:21.400 I've seen that. I think if there are levels to the afterlife, then 594 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:25.480 surely there are levels to this life that we're living. Oh. Absolutely, 595 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.760 you know so much of what we're talking about today, and just the concepts 596 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.960 that we're pondering that we are saying we don't know. But it's exactly as 597 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:43.119 you're saying, is that the possibilities, the layers, the dimensions, even 598 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:49.719 here on this planet and beyond to universes and multiverses that we can't even yet 599 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:54.599 fathom in our brains at this point in time, are so vast and so 600 00:47:54.760 --> 00:48:00.400 exciting and so much to learn and to give hope to us. Yeah, 601 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:05.840 me too, And So if you're living in a reality that you're not really 602 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.440 enjoying a whole lot right now, just think about spending some time in meditation, 603 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:15.079 creative visualization through a goalbook or vision board, through your prayer life, 604 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:22.239 where you just consistently, constantly fully visualize the reality that you want and try 605 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:27.840 to avoid giving energy to the things you don't want in your reality. You 606 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.639 know, think about what it is you're talking about with friends and family, 607 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.159 what it is you're worrying about, what it is you are anxious or stressed 608 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.239 about, and really think about your day at the end of your night and 609 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.239 think, Okay, how much energy did I give to the things I'm worried 610 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.599 about? And how much energy did I give to the things I'm hopeful for? 611 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.880 And if you're giving more energy to the things you're worried about, that's 612 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:58.079 what you're going to manifest. And so it's important to really focus on looking 613 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.320 at what it is I can create in my reality now and the fourth dimension 614 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.400 with my thoughts that I can pull into the reality I am living in the 615 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.119 third dimension, And that's what I think all these stories are about. And 616 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:13.719 that's why we wanted to visit this topic again today. Is to really look 617 00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:15.400 at it, not as ooh, isn't that cool? And what is the 618 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.480 government allegedly up to? And what is time travel? But to really think 619 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:24.119 about how can you apply these stories to your own life and what can they 620 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:30.079 teach us about what is possible in each of us. Well, thank you 621 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.400 guys so much for listening. 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