Hi, and welcome back to give us more nave. I'm Megan and it's
our first episode of twenty twenty three. Okay, listen. We said we
weren't going to kick off, and then we had like a few scatchuling conflicts
of times and dates of when we could record and stop lying, and then
I just tell them that when I came home, you punched me right in
my face. You saw me and you punched me, and then you kicked
me in my vagina. Sweetie, you've been throwing off this Christmas. You
did not need a punch in the face from me. I got a punch
in the face from God. He said, you've been living in sin.
Fucking dare you we laugh? Because if we don't walk right. Megan came
home for Christmas and her brother got COVID, and then her dog died of
fourteen years yet rest in peace, nearly my baby, and then her mother
went to hospital. Hmm. I'm only laughing because, like we weren't joking
about the punch in the face of God. And then to top it all
off, the cherry on top of the fucking shit cake. I got sick,
violently fever over forty degrees sick and I got to see me once,
literally one time once. It's great, And it was like two days before
I went home. Yeah, no, it was. We had some we
were supposed sorry, that's my phone telling me to go to bed. We
were supposed to record, and then Megan's microphone decided to and then I came
home and I moved. So we were planning on moving before he even left
Malta, before Christmas. And the way that it ended up was that we
hadn't even really stepped foot into a new apartment. So the day that we
flew back home, we are walking into an apartment that was completely unpacked.
Had our stuff in it, but it was completely unpacked, like there wasn't
even a sheet on the bed, nothing. So yeah, Megan's just been
doing that. So in other news, I got a shelf for my child's
toys. That's what I've been doing. I saw it. I love it.
It's behind me. Hold on, I'll move you so you can see
it for a quick minute. I love the way there is a human sized
Teddy Bear beside me and the shelf is iconic. I absolutely love it.
It's like so beautiful. It was needed. She has too many toys that's
too old children never no such thing. Yeah, So we're back now,
guys, and we're sorry about that. We didn't take as long as last
year. You know what I was. I was sitting on the toilet earlier
and I was thinking, we have taken so many long breaks. But we're
like mold. You literally cannot kill us. We are at the black growing
mold in the corner of your bathroom that you can't kill. You want to
get rid of us, but you can't get rid of us. So how
about that? So myself and I we are not part of animals. We
don't go it at the weekend. Usually I'm at home either playing Sims or
starting Valley, which I can adjust to that, or watching movies or just
being doing stupid shit. So we've decided to watch better movies with our time.
We watched last week Meet Joe Black. Have you seen it? It
sounds familiar, but I can't remember. It's Brad Pitt as death. Yeah,
and I've never liked Brad Pitt before, but I don't know. That
awakened something in my loins and in that movie, and he's death like that
that should not be a thing, but it is so I just wanted to
announce that to the world. And we watched Benjamin Button like two nights ago,
and he's in that too, and I was like, ah, yeah,
so it's literally justin met Joe Black. We watched the Bansheese of Innish
hearing Is it good? I thoroughly enjoyed it and so did Call. So
what's what's the vibe? It's like rural Ireland or laural. Yeah, it's
rural Ireland. There's like so many clips that like you're just like that is
exactly what it's like being in a small town. You're like, they told
no lies and even the way like I went, the way they talk and
everything, it's just yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's not like it's
like the premise of the movie is that Brendan Gleeson no longer wants to be
friends with Colin Farrell and then like that's right, and then it's just like
it goes from there and like, so Colin Farrell is like, why don't
you want to be friends with me? I take it they're grown men.
Yeah, grown men, you're not. But it's my birthday party. I
don't want to be a friend anymore. But it's I thoroughly liked it because
it's very funny. There are very funny scenes in it, and I don't
know, like, I don't know if you'd find them funny if you were
an American or not, or you know, like if you were from like
me and call find them funny because it's like spot on, yeah, relatable.
But then it's also like they're supposed to be that whole discussion of like
low loneliness, loneliness, loneliness, thank you, Why can't I talk and
like depression, like they're supposed to be the thought of like that in there.
I'm like, oh God, like, yeah, how would you feel
if, like one day your friend just doesn't want to be friends with you
anymore? Well, I felt that when you put me in the face and
kicking me into vagina. Please don't spread that around. It's like I'm gonna
get hate in the discord now or something that mean, like why'd you puncture?
Her? Dog died and you punched her. I didn't actually puncture you,
guys, stop sucking Lyne. Speaking of, if you want to join
our discord, just let us know because we have to send you an invite.
Actually, no, I made an invite link that doesn't expire, but
I haven't sent it anywhere, So I'll put that on our Instagram story and
then put it in our hearts or you can find it so you can join
our discord fun. I mean, I'm not great in there. I won't
lie, but you know, when I do okay on a real level,
I get super overwhelmed when it comes to social media, even my own personal
social media, like texting people back and stuff. So when it comes to
stuff forgive us more. I try to push a little bit more. But
I'm so bad at it. I'm just really fucking bad at it. But
you know, join in. There are plenty of people, plenty of there's
like four people in there, but they're all really cool people. And we
do occasionally chatting there. Yeah, we do occasionally occasionally. And one last
thing I want to say, movie wise, we watched American Beauty last night.
Did you see that? Yeah, it's a classic. That was our
first time I ever watching it. Your man in it, Kevin Spacey.
His name is Leicester, and I just thought it was really funny because now
he's known as a molester, so he was at one stage Leicester the molester.
Yeah, well he's Leicester the molester in the movie as well a girl.
But now turns saying he's that in real life. Yeah, are imitating
life? What? I just thought it was fucked up? Oh yeah,
it's a but it's a good movie. The neighbor, the recording guy,
I was like, who is he? Who is he? I know him?
Where is he from? And he kind of looks at little bit like
a werewolf. He's the detective in American horror story Hotel? Is he?
Yeah, the guy that lives in the hotel. My brain is like,
mind blown. I did not know that when he am the bit where he's
it's like a plastic bag in the wind. Oh my god, I've never
realized that that's where that scene comes from. All I can think of now
is do you ever feel like a plastic bag? So we watched that last
night and then we got into bed and we like to have a little wine
down after all of our movie watching, you know. So we put on
a Family for Her Life and a family guy had taken the piss out of
American American Psycho No American Beauty in one of their episodes, and they got
Chris Hamson to show up in the episode. I was like, yes,
thank you. Finally somebody's fucking saying it snaps and claps. Yeah, I'm
gonna turn off my heating because she's making noise. Excuse me, all right,
So tell me what have you got for me this week? This week,
I have got Louise Pete for you. You've told me a little bit
about her, and I'm curious. Yeah, she's um many to make it
work. Yeah, pretty much. Um so, I guess I'll just like
a dad write in, wait, can you do the podcast her vocal for
I? Please? Okay, we just watched this episode of Simpsons and they
were talking about true crime podcasts and they were taking the piss out of the
vocal fry that like every podcaster has. So hi, such a guy.
We're talking about Louise pay. Don't worry, I will ever talk like that
again. Thank you. So. Loffe Louise press Star was born on September
twentieth, eighteen eighty in Benville, Louisiana. She went by Louise instead of
Lofi because yeah, I was like, what the fuck is LOFFI? Lofi
Lofi? It's like a form of music now, But I'm sure it wasn't.
Back in eighteen eighty, Louise came from a really good background and her
parents actually tried to give her the best start in life, and she was
sent to some of the best private schools. At the age of fifteen,
however, Louise was expelled from her school for for stealing from her classmates as
well as quote promiscuous behavior. Oh okay, so the stealing people with money,
Sorry for stealing from her classmates and promise, not the promiscuous behavior.
Okay, No, why is it that the people with money and the people
with like good backgrounds. I'm not saying I know that she has like tons
and tons of money, but she's in private school back in eighteen eighty,
Okay, so we can probably assume she has enough to go around. Why
do people with money field and need to fucking steal from others? Yeah,
but what is that? I really I don't know, because it was like
it's the eighteen eighty well by the time she was fifteen, it was like
eighteen ninety five. But still there's not loads about her background. I just
got that basically she her family like weren't the richest, but like they didn't
struggle up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were what are you
stealing from your classmates in eighteen eighty five or eighteen ninety five the hoop and
stick probably Wait was that your fridge? Yeah? I don't want that to
end, just for podcast reasons because it's so creepy and I love it adds
to the to the mood. Oh and there goes again. So she has
a lot to say. She's like, oh my god, no way behavior.
She's basically our co host. She's the third co host Trion now so
um, yeah, she was basically expelled. So she had no other option
but to move back home because you know, expelled m h. In nineteen
o three, Louise met a traveling salesman called Henry Bosley. Pair wasted no
time and soon were married, and Louise began traveling with Henry for his work.
In nineteen oh six, the pair had been living in Dallas, Texas.
One evening, Henry arrived home from work to find Louise in bed with
a local oil man. You mean to tell me that she was displaying for
miscuous behavior again, but the misculous behave because nowhere. Henry was devastated,
and two days later he committed suicide that went from like zero to one hundred
real fast, real quick. She must have some pussy magic or something,
because honey, honey, are you getting men to fucking kill themselves over like
Angela in the office when the two of them are fighting, Dwight and Andy,
you're fighting over her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Louise sold all
of Henry's belongings, like pretty much straight away so that she could move to
Shrevenport Shrevettport, Louisiana. She then began working as a prostitute because she decided
she wanted to move to Boston in nineteen eleven. She wanted to make a
bit and I'm like three sorry. Louise began seeing some of the local rich
men as her clients when she was in Boston being a hooker. She's a
high class kind of gal. She's like, only if you've got money,
well, prostitution would you gotta do? She would go around to their homes
and while she would be left unattended, she would steal their wives jewelry in
order to lawn shops. Why are you leaving your prostitute unattended in your home?
Why you gotta be or something? Or like she'd be like oh,
I just have to go to the toilet real quick freshen up, and then
you know we're just like rummage. I just have to go bleach my vagina
real quick because it's like the early nineteen hundreds and we don't know about badge
as yet, so br b. Yeah, So she stole from their wives
jewelry in order to sell at paunchops for like extra cash, get it.
Louise eventually got caught, no, and like scattered real quick before she could
be arrested. I'm pretty sure it was a wife caught her and was like
get that fuck out before I actually stab you, you dumb bitch. No
way, Oh not the wife, imagine. So Louise then started to pretend
that she was a heiress, an heiress who was forced to run away from
home. She you know what, I got a hand it to her.
She has reinvented herself already, like twice, three times her third time.
Yeah, and like she's not merely like twenty at this point, well,
like she's basically almost dead back in those days. You know, well,
one coffin, she's gone. So Louise convinced a family to take her in,
and she began stealing from this family and then their friends as well.
She then began buying some some things from some of the most expensive shops in
the town, and she was charging it to the family's account. No way,
it didn't take long for Louise to be discovered that, you know,
she was bullshit, she was plain old lying. Yeah, she was just
doing doing a crime or two. Yeah. The police told Louise that as
long as she left the town, they wouldn't press any charges, and it
was to avoid any more embarrassment to the family. So it was a like
high up, high up family. You know, we're talking like a judge
or well, she's an heiress. She could only stay with the high highest
of higher ups exactly. So it was like to avoid any more embarrassment,
if you just leave and don't come back, okay, will be good and
you won't press charges anyway. Anyway, Louise then moved to Waco, Texas,
which I did not know it was a real place, but don't Yeah,
Waco, that's where that big but remember the big church there was and
a guy like kept a bunch of it was like a cult and he kept
a bunch of people in the church, and the FBI were trying to go
in and like swatt it and get people out, and he like exploded the
church. So yeah, yeah, So she moved to Wakeo, Texas,
where she met a wealthy oil baron Joe Apple. The pair began a romantic
relationship when Joe was suddenly Fenn shot dead and some of his diamonds were missing.
I guess he really wanted a doctor day. That was such a bad
badly thought I'd put I'm so sorry, I loved That's okay. It obviously
naturally didn't take place long to arrest Louise and charge her with Joe's murder.
Louise's case then went to trial, and she told the jury about how she
had to kill Joe, okay, because it was himself defend because she was
claiming that good old Joe had tried to rape her and she panicked and killed
him. Jerry found Louise not guilty and applauded her bravery forgetting that he was
missing diamonds. Well, I mean, if a guy tries to rape you
and then you kill him, I might rob them too. You know.
It's obviously questioned now on whether that man did try rape her or not.
I think it's safe to guess not, because, as you will see,
she has a thing about lying. WHOA what what. In nineteen thirteen,
Louise moved back to Dallas, Texas. Didn't take her long to meet a
local nightclerk, Harry Farrott. I don't know how to pronounce his name.
I'm so Harry faut fat. Harry worked at Saint George's hotel, and you
guessed it. They quickly got married, pussy. It is reported that Louise
then stole twenty thousand dollars worth of jewelry from the hotel that Harry worked at.
She's not good and police immediately question her and Harry over the burglary.
Harry was eventually cleared of any involvement and they believed that Louise acted alone.
However, the police did not have enough evidence to actually charge her with the
theft. Louise began having many different affairs on Harry. Harry became depressed over
his relationship with Louise and having been accused of robbery in his job. It
is reported that Harry hung himself in the basement of the hotel, but some
people believe that Louise did have something to do with his death. Oh my
god. So why well, if she was stepping out on him, then
he yeah, maybe that's why. Like she literally walked into his life,
got married, and then ruined his life. Yeah, and like, can
I just this is all in the space of like two years. Oh my
god. Yeah, she wastes no time. In nineteen fifteen, Louise moved
to Denver, Colorado, where she met Richard Pete, a local salesman,
and she wasted no time in marrying him. And this is then when she
takes his name, this is husband number four. Yeah. The pair went
on to have a daughter together in nineteen sixteen, Frances Anne, who went
by Betty for some reason. I mean, Betty's kind of better than Frances
I'd take it. Richard and Louise fought a lot, mostly over Richard's income.
Louise wanted to live this wealthy lifestyle, and Richard just did not earn
enough money to provide for the lifestyle. She wanted. Hey, Louise,
why don't you get a job? I mean, you know, just saying.
In nineteen twenty, Louise packed all of her belongings and left Richard and
Betty. She decided she's going to start a new life in Los Angeles.
She was going to be a star. While Louise was looking for summer to
live, she met a man, Jacob C. Denton, a mining engineer
who was recently widowed. He had a teenage daughter from like that marriage,
and he also had a fourteen room mansion. Oh, I wonder what attracted
her to him? Family, family values. Richard was looking to rent out
his mansion for three hundred dollars a month, which today is about four thousand,
five hundred dollars a month, which for fourteen roomed mansion, it's not
half bad in La In La. Somehow, and it's unclear how, but
somehow, Louise convinced Jacob that she should move in with him as his living
companion. She claimed that the pair were in a sexual relationship, but according
to Jacob, she was just a companion and that was it. There was
nothing like sexual about it. Like she was literally just to keep him company
because he was he was a little bit old. Oh okay, but she's
trying to keep up appearances, being like, yeah, we'd be fucking like,
why why are you lying? Louise wanted Jacob to marry her, and
when she asked him about marriage, he said that he wasn't planning on ever
remarrying. He was like, that ship sailed, I'm old, Like I'm
not doing that. Wait, so Louise asked him. Yeah, She's like,
what do you think about marriage? Like we should get married, like
marry me. Oh, Louise, No, I'm already married. And he's
like, I'm old as fuck. I'm probably gonna die soon. So like
nah, and then he dies a lot sooner. Louise then asked the caretaker
of the mansion to plant a ton of dirt in the basement, as she
wanted to grow some of Jacob's favorite mushrooms down there. What is that?
What? Yep, I casually grown mushrooms and he has favorite mushrooms as well.
Yeah. On June, I have a second, but I think it's
supposed to say twentieth. On June twentieth, nineteen twenty, Paco went missing.
This wasn't long after Louise had moved in as his living companion. Okay,
she moved in on the fifth of June. He went missing, like
June twentieth or something, so literally two weeks later. Yeah. Louise then
began forging Jacob's signature in order to withdraw three hundred dollars from his bank and
to gain access to his safety deposit boxes. This is where like Louise decides
to take an interesting stance with everything. So the bank obviously question Louise.
They're like, listen, Jacob's a long term customer, right, and that
don't look like his signature and we've literally never seen you before in our lives.
Who are you? Who are you? Well Curly is like yeah,
so listen, right, Jacob had his writing arm amputated because a mysterious Spanish
woman whom he had had an argument with, shot him. Of course,
that's the only explanation. I mean, obviously, obviously, um, for
some reason, the bank were like, yes, that's legit. Yeah,
you know what, I don't blame them, that's a perfectly reasonable excuse.
I feel like they were like, that's so absurd it has to be true.
Yeah. I mean I feel like the bank were like, that's so
absurd that it has to be true. Yeah. Back in the day,
when you're like in school, you would tell your teacher or your mom that
you were like vomiting and had violent diarrhea, and you would go into detail,
you know, when really you just wanted to stay off school because you're
like, it's so embarrassing that they'll believe it. They wouldn't think I'm just
embarrassing myself just for fun. Yeah, they'd be like, there's no way
she's going to tell me she has explosive diarrhea if she doesn't have it.
Louise does go on to change her story, like Girly can't keep stories straight.
She starts telling people that this mysterious Spanish woman whom Jacob argued with argued
with, stabbed him in his writing arm with a sword. I love that
she brings the sword into it. She really like brings up the fantasy play
here m. She then goes on to say that he's missing a leg and
that he's embarrassed by his handicap and he doesn't want to be seen out in
public. So he's missing an arm and a leg at this stage. Yeah,
I guess he's not all right then, or maybe he is. I
don't know. Bad pauns today, you've been hanging out with Nile too much.
I really have herd help me. She said that Jacob didn't want to
return to society until he had his prosthetic fitted. I mean all right,
yeah, I get it. So Louise begins to tell everyone that her and
Jacob got married, she began driving his car and spending his money, and
she was also pawning off some of his belongings. Louise even managed to convince
the tenants of Jacob's rental property out in Arizona to write their checks out to
her and not to Jacob. Oh yeah, because you know, the loss
of a leg and the loss of an arm would mean that you don't want
your rental check. Of course, of course, Jacob's daughter decided that she
was going to hire a lawyer to try to find out what happened to her
father. Like she's like, that's something, it's not like adding up here.
I'm curious, Yeah, because where's the teenager at this point? Was
she living with her dad? And then one day her dad's just not there
and then his weird companion that just moved in is like, oh, some
Spanish woman came in and step him with the sward and then she shut him
and Lewie's last off of his legs and now he's differently aired. I think
like she had moved out at this stage. I think she was like by
this rate, is like eighteen, oh, like living elsewhere on her second
divorce, five kids. Yeah. Yeah. The lawyer questioned Louise on Jacob's
whereabouts, and she told the lawyer that she didn't know where he was.
She then told the lawyer that she would forward on his finances. She would
forward on like Jacob's finances to Jacob as soon as she could for him to
have a look at, and like would let him know that the teenage daughter
is like looking for him, okay, and like she's just like, I'll
do that as soon as I can. I'll get around to it. Meanwhile,
she's getting fed grape. Louise then started throwing lavish parties in the mansion,
and then she decided that she didn't want to live there anymore and that
she was going to rent it out. So she's like, you know what,
I've had my fun in La, I'm gonna rent this out, convinced
those to send me the rental checks, and I'm just going to go home
to my sweet old husband and child. Oh okay, So she's done.
Like any I have a question though, Yeah, when the new tenants moved
in, did they ask about the fucking mushrooms growing in their basement or was
that just a given? It was just like you ignore those they're not there.
M So, while Louise is out of the mansion, Jacob's daughter hires
a private investigator to go search the house for any clues that might be there
or that might tell her where her dad is like. She's like, he's
either they're dead somewhere, or he's like she's like placed them in a fucking
mental home or something, or you know. So, the private investigator is
sleuthing through the house, an he goes down to the basement, and here
he finds then of dirt, mushrooms, and in the ton of dirt is
the body of Jacob with a bullet wound in his head. Okay, first
of all, I feel fucking led to Okay, there was no mushrooms.
And secondly, the fact that she was going to rent that house out with
a fucking decomposing body in the basement, A girl girl, what make it
makes sense? What is happening? So obviously she becomes immediately the prime suspect,
and it does not take them long to locate her in Denver at all.
So Louise is brought into questioning with the Denver police department, and she's
unaware that they've found the body, okay, Like she thinks they're just trying
to find out like where he is. And she begins telling police about the
Spanish woman and his amputated arm and leg, and the police informer that they
know he's not missing any limbs. They're like, we know he's not missing
any limbs. She's like, wait for it. Then she's like, you
know that's not Jacob. That's a body double that Jacob shot so he could
go disappear. She's riding herself into a mystery novel. I swear to god,
how are you finding a body double shooting him and then putting him in
your basement under dirt. However, the police do have DNA evidence and like
they're like, no, no, we know what's Jacob, like dental records,
like man's man's loaded, so like he's easy to identify because we'll get
paid to do that. Yeah. So Louise was tryings fared back to Los
Angeles, where she was charged with first degree murder. Louise's trial began on
January twenty first, nineteen twenty one. She was found guilty and was sentenced
to life imprisonment. Louise's husband, Richard remained loyal to Louise for the first
two years of her sentence. This side I leave just gave me when she
said remained loyal, you were like remain loyal like no like he believed she
was innocent, but she just left him. She just abandoned him and her
child for however long came back, got arrested for murder and charged with murder.
Is on trial and found guilty of said murder. And he's like,
nah, no, nah, not my Louise. She would never, she
would never. In nineteen twenty three, Louise told Richard that they should get
a divorced so that he could be free from her and remarry. But really
it was just because she just was sick of him and wanted to divorce on
to us in number seventy eight. So when the divorce was finalized, Louise
stopped answering Richard's letters and would refuse to see him at visitation. Richard became
distraught. He told Louise he would wait forever for her to be released.
However, Louise was like, I'm done with you, yeah, bornel bitch,
And in nineteen twenty four, Richard committed suicide in a motel room in
Arizona. So that's the third man to commit suicide over Louise over her.
When asked about it, Louise said that he must have just felt guilty over
her conviction. And she talked about how he had per health why would he
feel guilty over her conviction, And she's just like fine, whatever, okay,
bye, Like she's too chill about this. This woman is crazy.
I'm starting to think she's not one hundred percent all there. Well, the
story doesn't end here, oh okay, So before I go any further,
we're just going to take a quick little lad break. Hey guys, Megan
here, I just wanted to tell you about the season of That So Fucked
Up Presents that I was lucky enough to be a part of with host Ashley
Richards. Every season actually covers a different variety of cases, and this time
we covered the world's most gruesome gals. Head on over to That's So Fucked
Up on any of your listening platforms to hear all about Katherine Knight, Carla
Hamoka, are more. Here's a sneak peek. Are you ready for the
gnarliest part of the story? Nope? Okay, here we go. She
then went on his skin him and did this so precisely that his skin wasn't
one piece. I am fucking nauseous. Louise was sentenced to San Quentin State
Prison, but she was eventually transferred to the California Institution for Women. While
there, Louise maintained the flower garden. She was the dentist's assistant, and
she enjoyed She enjoyed writing for the prison newspaper. She's a busy little bee.
Was she grown mushrooms in the garden. No, because she doesn't know
how to. She had no dead body to put down. So Louise was
actually considered to be a model inmate. She was granted parole for good behavior
in nineteen thirty nine, after serving eighteen years, she was released into the
custody of Jesse Mercy, a woman who believed that Louise was innocent of murdering
Jacob and should be set free. Because you have to remember the only reason
she was charged and found guilty wasn't anything to do with like DNA evidence or
anything like that. It was literally just like she was the last person to
see him alive. She had this a wild story. Yeah, well it
was the lies that would got her convicted, you know. Yeah, But
like she's like no, no, Like as far as I knew he was
alive in that case, then still if you knew that your partner, whoever
the fuck this guy is to her at that stage, has a dead body
of his body double, his stunt double h in his basement, why didn't
you say anything? What do you need a stunts double for or a body
double for in like ninety, this is twenty, this is so, this
is the thing. So she gave Louise a job as her live inmate,
and she was then granted permission to change her name to Alee. Now it
does not confuse everybody. I'm still going to call her Louise, but everyone
she meets up from here on out believe her name is Anna Lee. Jesse
died of natural causes, and Louise then had to move into her parole officer,
Emily Latham's home. As then her parole officer became ill in nineteen forty
three, Louise became her career and approximately two weeks later, Emily died of
a stroke. Then a woman called Margaret Logan, who was a friend of
Louise's offered her it's under Oh no, I didn't. That's really sad.
Then Margaret Logan, a friend of Louise's, offered her a job as a
living nurse for her husband, Arthur Logan. Louise met a banker named Lee
Borden Judson. Lee knew Louise as only Anna Lee. It was reported that
the pair got married in May nineteen forty four, but Louise kept the wedding
a secret as it violated her parole because obviously, when her parole officer died
like she just got a new parole officer. Louise told Margaret how she was
due to inherit property in Denver and it needed to be renovated, and she
asked if Margaret would be interested in investing in the property. Now, Margaret
didn't have much money as she had to give up work to care for her
husband, Arthur, who was suffering from dementia. However, she believed in
Louise and she agreed to invest in the property. Louise then tried to have
Arthur taken into an institution for his dementia. The closest she ever got was
when he had Arthur in the hospital to have him evaluated, and Margaret was
going to go along with the evaluation, but then Margaret felt too guilty about
abandoning her husband and she took him home. Oh my heart. Louise then
began telling the neighbors that Arthur would get violent with Margaret and that he would
often attack her when he was having a bad episode. Louise then told her
husband Lee that she had to go stay with Margaret for a little while to
discuss business about her investment in the Denver property. Soon after this, Margaret
disappeared. Louise cashed out train tickets that, like Margaret, had to use
the money to pay off debt. Louise then signed Arthur into Patton State Hospital,
pretending to be a family member. Shortly after this, Louise and Lee
moved into the Logan home. Louise told all of Arthur's doctors that on May
twenty ninth, Arthur had gotten physical with Margaret during an episode and had bitten
her on the nose and neck, and this led Arthur to be held at
the state hospital on a court order, but that could be easily bruthon though.
No, wait, so he did actually get a court order or she's
telling people. He did actually get the court order, so she is like,
she gets him in there, pretending to be a family member, and
then she goes and she tells the doctor, like all the doctors and nurses
that oh, like, he attacked his wife Margaret, bit her on the
nose, bit her on the neck when he was having a really bad episode,
and she's really super injured. And they're like, oh, well,
then in that case, he is a danger to others and we'll have to
keep him. Yeah, okay, okay, I get it. Louise then
began telling neighbors and friends the same story, and she informed them that Margaret
was left disfigured by the attack and was self conscious of how she looked.
She told everyone that Margaret didn't want to be seen like that, so she
was hiding out. On December sixth, nineteen forty four, Arthur Logan passed
away believing his wife had abandoned him at a state hospital. Louise, isn't
it like that per man just thought his wife abandoned him. Louise had Arthur's
body donated to science, claiming it was Arthur's wish. So that's because you
didn't want to pay for your funeral. Yeah, stingy bitch, like you
put him in there, Yeah, donate his body to science fuck off?
Like I mean do that, because I will. I would look into that.
To be honest, for myself, I think it's cool, but like,
don't do on behalf of other people. Don't make that decision for somebody
else exactly. Several weeks later, Louise's parole officers started to notice that Margaret's
signature looked different from June onwards on her like parole forms, because obviously they
had to fill out forms to say like, yes, she lives here,
Yes she works for us, you know, like no, she's not doing
anything illegal as far as we know. Yeah, So she's like, that's
weird. So she became suspicious that Louise was possibly filling out the forms and
signing her parole forms herself, which is obviously against the law and against her
parole. So she took the evidence to her superior, who agreed that the
signatures were different, like the ones from before June were definitely different to the
ones after June. So they both went to the district attorney Fred Hauser.
The parole officer told Fred Hauser, who Louise was that her name isn't really
Annaie, that she's Louise Pete, and Fred Hauser actually remembers the case and
it's like, oh, yeah, I remember that, like she like killed
some old guy. Oh she got exposed. So he's like, yeah,
that's super duper weird. So he decides that he's not going to waste any
time and he just and he sends a homicide detective over to the Logan Logan
household. Didn't take long to figure out that something was up, because when
the detective is questioning, like all the neighbors and family and friends, they
all have the same story, but like a different variation. No one has
the same exact story, Like no one has the same information. Why can't
she not keep a lie straight? It's like, sis, that's all you
had to do, and you probably would have got away with it, yeah,
literally. And on top of that, no one had seen Margaret for
almost seven months at this stage, and while Arthur was in hospital, he
hadn't a single visit from Margaret, which everyone is like, you know,
like that's super weird because like she loved her husband to death and like would
even if she was disfigured, like she'd still risk go seeing him. On
December twentieth, nineteen forty four, early in the morning, several detectives sneak
onto the Logan property. Two different officers snucked down to the cellar while the
lead detective, Tad Brown had a luck on the porch. When he looked
through the window, he saw Louise and Leeting looking over a strong box.
Detective Brian rang a strong box that I'm pretty sure it's like basically what they
would a strong box be, like what they use in um what's called I
just said it earlier. What take a head from the bank, like a
safe a safety deposit box. Yeah, would that be like a strong box
like something that like you can you know like yeah, no, I've I've
no like proof of this, but in my head, I would imagine in
it is probably Arthur and Margaret's wills and like the deed to the house,
and you know, like something that you'd keep like all the important bits like
as song, like something like a strong box would be like something that wouldn't
catch fire. Yes, yeah, so you keep in all your important shit
in there, like the d to your house, your life and sharance policies,
all that you're vape. So Detective Brown rings the doorbell, and Louise
is like super annoyed, like she's like, fuck sake Wise, there police
at my door, fuck me, fuck my life because you've killed people.
She reluctantly lets them in. She's like, let's do this, I guess.
Detective Brin wastes no time and he's like, where the fox's Margaret?
Yeah, and she Louise replies, quote, Oh, she's in a sanitarium
near Patton. Her husband died there December sixth. Louise, sweetie, that's
something that they can check up on. Yeah, and I feel like they
would have already checked at this stage of the game. Louise, so like
any hoodles. She then went on to say that Margaret was recovering from plastic
surgery from her attack. She comes up the wildest shit, I'm sorry,
no, like, where does your brain go? No? She has an
overall, overam active, overactive imagination's crazy. After being questioned, Louise went
on to admit that she'd been signing the forms. That she had been signing
her parole forms, but she was claiming that Margaret had told her to do
it while she was recovering. Detective Brian decides that he's just gonna come out
and he's like, did you hurt Margaret Killer? Did you killer? Comme
on it, and Louise replies, you know, Jean bis Qualez told me
someday I'd blow my top again. I'll only talk to Jean now. Jean
Qualez, and I'm so sorry if I'm saying that I'm wrong. He was
the county sheriff at the time of the murder of Jacob Denton, so he
like dealt with her, okay, and she's like, he told me I'd
blow my top again someday. Imagine the county Sheriff's like, yeah, you'll
probably killed somebody again one day, but hey, we're gonna let you out
on good behavior. Yeah you mentioned serve life, but here after eighteen years,
you're good. You're good. Louise was then taken to the police department.
The police searched the Logan property to try and find Margaret's body, obviously,
and eventually they dig up her body under a freshly painted under a painted
under a freshly planted tree. When police were questioning Louise, they inform her
that they found Margaret's body, and she finally made a confession just wasn't the
one that they're hoping for. Can I guess? Did she blame Lee?
No, she doesn't blame Lee. It's worse. She decided to tell police
that while having an episode, Arthur got physical with Margaret, beat her,
and then shot her. That is so sick that both of these people are
dead. Nobody can like defend themselves, and that they were a loving couple.
He would have never heard her, She would have never heard him.
She said that she felt no one would believe her because of her history,
so she buried Margaret's body and placed Arthur in the care of the state hospital.
However, the gun that was used to shoot Margaret belonged to Louise's old
parole officer, the one that we got the smoking gun, the one that
she was a living care for for a whole of two weeks before the woman
had a stroke. Yeah, yeah, that gun. She still her gun.
How did nobody come looking for her gun? I would have imagined,
like, yeah, like that stuff all has to be taken back. That's
not Marca. Margaret's autopsy showed that she was shot in the neck from behind
while on or near a telephone. She was then hit in the head with
a blunt object. The blows to the head were the official cause of death.
So the woman didn't die from the gun shop. How did they know
she was on or near a telephone. I don't I'm assuming they found like
pieces of a telephone. Oh okay. I thought they were gonna like say
some crazy fucking nineteen fifty shit or whatever, being like, oh, there's
many active levels in her blood, you know, I mean nineteen forty four.
Very well. Police question Lee Judson, and he stated that he had
believed every lie his wife had told him, and he believed that she had
nothing to do with Margaret's disappearance. Like when Margaret disappeared, he was like,
I had no reason not to believe her. And he's like, I
didn't even know her name was Louise. I thought it was Anna. Lee.
This man is something special because he falls in love gets married to somebody
he doesn't know anything about. That's okay, no fault of his one.
We can we can get down with that. Secondly, this woman that he's
just married is like, hey, I know a special place and then she
just brings him to this like random house that it's just empty, and she's
like, we can just like live here, mortgage, what is that?
What is that? He's just like okay with it? Yeah, pretty much.
Police question Lee on and off for weeks, but eventually determined that Lee
was telling the truth that he was released on January eleventh, nineteen forty five.
Depressed and embarrassed by what Louise had done, Lee threw himself Dennis stairwell,
oh my god, I'm laughing from your Oh my god, enough for
this leg sentence. Just fyr okay, Lee died for me in fact a
laugh. Oh my god, he died the timing. I'm very sad that
the bad died. Don't care. I'm not m Lee died from the impact
and his injuries. And that is the like fourth person to commit suicide on
this woman because of this woman. Ah hm. So I'm just gonna take
another little quick outbreak and then we'll wreck this baby up and we're back from
her at break me. So. Louise's trial began on April twenty third,
nineteen forty five. The prosecution pointed out to the jury that the murder of
Margaret Logan is similar to that of Jacob Denton. A neighbor then testified that
she had gone over to the Logan residence to tell Louise that Arthur Logan had
died, and Louise almost seemed happy about the news. When the neighbor asked,
like, why don't you seem so like, why are you almost happy
about this? Louise replied, quote, Oh, he's an all sick man.
He's better off dead. Oh whoa, okay, Louise, No need
to be so curt about it. Tell us how you really feel. Swear
to call it like damn. Louise then decided that she wanted to take the
stand against her legal team's wishes. They're like, no, no, please,
don't. You're not that lovable, and she's like, I got pussy
power. Okay, that'll be fine. Do you know how many men have
killed themselves for me? Louise, sweetie, it's not something to be bread
up. It's really not. Louise claimed that she was unsure who killed Jacob
Denton, and then went on to tell her version of the events the night
that Margaret Logan was murdered, which was that Arthur was having a bad episode,
shot her, beat her all that jazz the prosecution like or whilst they're
like, you know, cross examining her, ask her how long it took
her to dig Margaret's grave, to which Louise responds, quote, I don't
know. The night was endless, and I don't want to talk about it
anymore. Oh okay, you can't just take this down and then be like,
actually, I just like don't want to talk about it anymore. This
conversation has just been going on like far too long, so like, can
we wrap it up or something? Yeah, you're kind of boring me.
On May twenty eighth, nineteen forty five, Louise was found guilty of first
degree murder. After the jury deliberated for three hours, Louise was sentenced to
death. Louise maintained that she was innocent, and she appealed her sentence several
times, but it was never successful, and on April eleventh, nineteen forty
seven, Louise was executed in the gass chamber at San Quentin State Prison.
Louise is the second woman to be executed in the California state by the state.
Damn she that was a swift end for her after all of that life,
after all, like after all of those like lies and like reinventing yourself
twenty billion times, and like getting married another twenty billion times and she didn't
have more kids. It's weird. But at the same time, like she
was just marrying these men for money, Like but was she getting money because
she had to steal from Arthur and Margaret to pay off debt. So she
was trying to marry for money. She just wasn't very good at it because
she killed them. She killed the men too quickly, like girl high her
in like a few years. Get yourself written into the wheel, you know,
get yourself written into the wheel. Let them get their money up a
little bit, come on, and then like have them die of like natural
causes. It's not a gunshot wound to the head. Yeah, you're you're
being a little bit too obvious, a little bit too for it. Louise,
We're gonna need you to kind of dial up back a smidge, all
right, Like come on, hunt, have you never seen how to get
away with wurther m clearly that she's being a silly ghost, But damn,
what is with these people? Who else was it? You told me a
story about somebody else before? And she also had like fifty million husbands,
Yeah I did not too long ago actually as well. I can't remember that
woman's I feel like her name was Elizabeth, and she kept naming all of
her children Elizabeth. Yes exactly. We were like, girl, find a
new different. We also googled when condoms were invented. I forget when they
were invented. Yeah, same, but they were invented at that time.
I think of that. I believe h find it heat. We can't remember.
You could just get yourself a job might be easier than killing all these
men. What happens to her prostitution gig? I mean, she wasn't very
good at it, fair enough Mary Anne Cotton, Oh yeah, that's her
name. She did. She named all of her children Elizabeth, though she
was fucking wild. It's a it's a rollercoaster of a story because she gets
caught and you're like, oh, so this is it, and then they
release her and she gets caught again and you're like, wait what, Yeah,
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all right, let's go to bed sluncha. What's her second name, Louise
Pete. I want to look at her. Get ready to be warmly disappointed.
This woman looks like a midwife. That's going to be really mean to
me. You're right about the mean part. Okay, Well, back in
nineteen twenty, she was something I guess. I mean, Oh ah,
thank you. I told my Ali could tell a joke. You can tell
it at the end. Oh my god, he doesn't even have it ready.
I do have it ready. You do this all the time, Nile.
That's the real reason. He gave her tea, just so that you
could come in. And she said a joke. He wasn't, actually,
I'm sure so. My penis was in the Guinness Book of Horror Records,
but the librari, being the smallest, the librarian told me to take it
out about it, Yeah, like I had it between the pages. No,
we get the joke now and you don't need to explain it, thank
you very much. Yeah. Yeah, he's giving me the evils from the
door as well. Oh that's so funny. He did bring me a baby's
coffee that was so it can't be bad. He was joking forbad