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Hi, and welcome back to give
us more nave. I'm Megan and it's

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our first episode of twenty twenty three. Okay, listen. We said we

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weren't going to kick off, and
then we had like a few scatchuling conflicts

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of times and dates of when we
could record and stop lying, and then

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I just tell them that when I
came home, you punched me right in

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my face. You saw me and
you punched me, and then you kicked

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me in my vagina. Sweetie,
you've been throwing off this Christmas. You

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did not need a punch in the
face from me. I got a punch

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in the face from God. He
said, you've been living in sin.

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Fucking dare you we laugh? Because
if we don't walk right. Megan came

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home for Christmas and her brother got
COVID, and then her dog died of

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fourteen years yet rest in peace,
nearly my baby, and then her mother

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went to hospital. Hmm. I'm
only laughing because, like we weren't joking

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about the punch in the face of
God. And then to top it all

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off, the cherry on top of
the fucking shit cake. I got sick,

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violently fever over forty degrees sick and
I got to see me once,

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literally one time once. It's great, And it was like two days before

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I went home. Yeah, no, it was. We had some we

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were supposed sorry, that's my phone
telling me to go to bed. We

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were supposed to record, and then
Megan's microphone decided to and then I came

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home and I moved. So we
were planning on moving before he even left

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Malta, before Christmas. And the
way that it ended up was that we

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hadn't even really stepped foot into a
new apartment. So the day that we

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flew back home, we are walking
into an apartment that was completely unpacked.

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Had our stuff in it, but
it was completely unpacked, like there wasn't

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even a sheet on the bed,
nothing. So yeah, Megan's just been

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doing that. So in other news, I got a shelf for my child's

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toys. That's what I've been doing. I saw it. I love it.

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It's behind me. Hold on,
I'll move you so you can see

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it for a quick minute. I
love the way there is a human sized

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Teddy Bear beside me and the shelf
is iconic. I absolutely love it.

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It's like so beautiful. It was
needed. She has too many toys that's

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too old children never no such thing. Yeah, So we're back now,

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guys, and we're sorry about that. We didn't take as long as last

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year. You know what I was. I was sitting on the toilet earlier

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and I was thinking, we have
taken so many long breaks. But we're

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like mold. You literally cannot kill
us. We are at the black growing

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mold in the corner of your bathroom
that you can't kill. You want to

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get rid of us, but you
can't get rid of us. So how

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about that? So myself and I
we are not part of animals. We

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don't go it at the weekend.
Usually I'm at home either playing Sims or

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starting Valley, which I can adjust
to that, or watching movies or just

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being doing stupid shit. So we've
decided to watch better movies with our time.

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We watched last week Meet Joe Black. Have you seen it? It

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sounds familiar, but I can't remember. It's Brad Pitt as death. Yeah,

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and I've never liked Brad Pitt before, but I don't know. That

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awakened something in my loins and in
that movie, and he's death like that

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that should not be a thing,
but it is so I just wanted to

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announce that to the world. And
we watched Benjamin Button like two nights ago,

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and he's in that too, and
I was like, ah, yeah,

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so it's literally justin met Joe Black. We watched the Bansheese of Innish

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hearing Is it good? I thoroughly
enjoyed it and so did Call. So

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what's what's the vibe? It's like
rural Ireland or laural. Yeah, it's

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rural Ireland. There's like so many
clips that like you're just like that is

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exactly what it's like being in a
small town. You're like, they told

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no lies and even the way like
I went, the way they talk and

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everything, it's just yeah, I
thoroughly enjoyed it. It's not like it's

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like the premise of the movie is
that Brendan Gleeson no longer wants to be

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friends with Colin Farrell and then like
that's right, and then it's just like

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it goes from there and like,
so Colin Farrell is like, why don't

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you want to be friends with me? I take it they're grown men.

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Yeah, grown men, you're not. But it's my birthday party. I

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don't want to be a friend anymore. But it's I thoroughly liked it because

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it's very funny. There are very
funny scenes in it, and I don't

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know, like, I don't know
if you'd find them funny if you were

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an American or not, or you
know, like if you were from like

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me and call find them funny because
it's like spot on, yeah, relatable.

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But then it's also like they're supposed
to be that whole discussion of like

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low loneliness, loneliness, loneliness,
thank you, Why can't I talk and

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like depression, like they're supposed to
be the thought of like that in there.

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I'm like, oh God, like, yeah, how would you feel

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if, like one day your friend
just doesn't want to be friends with you

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anymore? Well, I felt that
when you put me in the face and

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kicking me into vagina. Please don't
spread that around. It's like I'm gonna

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get hate in the discord now or
something that mean, like why'd you puncture?

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Her? Dog died and you punched
her. I didn't actually puncture you,

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guys, stop sucking Lyne. Speaking
of, if you want to join

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our discord, just let us know
because we have to send you an invite.

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Actually, no, I made an
invite link that doesn't expire, but

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I haven't sent it anywhere, So
I'll put that on our Instagram story and

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then put it in our hearts or
you can find it so you can join

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our discord fun. I mean,
I'm not great in there. I won't

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lie, but you know, when
I do okay on a real level,

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I get super overwhelmed when it comes
to social media, even my own personal

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social media, like texting people back
and stuff. So when it comes to

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stuff forgive us more. I try
to push a little bit more. But

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I'm so bad at it. I'm
just really fucking bad at it. But

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you know, join in. There
are plenty of people, plenty of there's

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like four people in there, but
they're all really cool people. And we

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do occasionally chatting there. Yeah,
we do occasionally occasionally. And one last

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thing I want to say, movie
wise, we watched American Beauty last night.

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Did you see that? Yeah,
it's a classic. That was our

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first time I ever watching it.
Your man in it, Kevin Spacey.

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His name is Leicester, and I
just thought it was really funny because now

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he's known as a molester, so
he was at one stage Leicester the molester.

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Yeah, well he's Leicester the molester
in the movie as well a girl.

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But now turns saying he's that in
real life. Yeah, are imitating

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life? What? I just thought
it was fucked up? Oh yeah,

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it's a but it's a good movie. The neighbor, the recording guy,

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I was like, who is he? Who is he? I know him?

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Where is he from? And he
kind of looks at little bit like

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a werewolf. He's the detective in
American horror story Hotel? Is he?

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Yeah, the guy that lives in
the hotel. My brain is like,

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mind blown. I did not know
that when he am the bit where he's

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it's like a plastic bag in the
wind. Oh my god, I've never

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realized that that's where that scene comes
from. All I can think of now

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is do you ever feel like a
plastic bag? So we watched that last

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night and then we got into bed
and we like to have a little wine

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down after all of our movie watching, you know. So we put on

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a Family for Her Life and a
family guy had taken the piss out of

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American American Psycho No American Beauty in
one of their episodes, and they got

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Chris Hamson to show up in the
episode. I was like, yes,

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thank you. Finally somebody's fucking saying
it snaps and claps. Yeah, I'm

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gonna turn off my heating because she's
making noise. Excuse me, all right,

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So tell me what have you got
for me this week? This week,

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I have got Louise Pete for you. You've told me a little bit

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about her, and I'm curious.
Yeah, she's um many to make it

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work. Yeah, pretty much.
Um so, I guess I'll just like

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a dad write in, wait,
can you do the podcast her vocal for

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I? Please? Okay, we
just watched this episode of Simpsons and they

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were talking about true crime podcasts and
they were taking the piss out of the

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vocal fry that like every podcaster has. So hi, such a guy.

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We're talking about Louise pay. Don't
worry, I will ever talk like that

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again. Thank you. So.
Loffe Louise press Star was born on September

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twentieth, eighteen eighty in Benville,
Louisiana. She went by Louise instead of

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Lofi because yeah, I was like, what the fuck is LOFFI? Lofi

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Lofi? It's like a form of
music now, But I'm sure it wasn't.

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Back in eighteen eighty, Louise came
from a really good background and her

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parents actually tried to give her the
best start in life, and she was

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sent to some of the best private
schools. At the age of fifteen,

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however, Louise was expelled from her
school for for stealing from her classmates as

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well as quote promiscuous behavior. Oh
okay, so the stealing people with money,

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Sorry for stealing from her classmates and
promise, not the promiscuous behavior.

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Okay, No, why is it
that the people with money and the people

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with like good backgrounds. I'm not
saying I know that she has like tons

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and tons of money, but she's
in private school back in eighteen eighty,

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Okay, so we can probably assume
she has enough to go around. Why

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do people with money field and need
to fucking steal from others? Yeah,

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but what is that? I really
I don't know, because it was like

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it's the eighteen eighty well by the
time she was fifteen, it was like

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eighteen ninety five. But still there's
not loads about her background. I just

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got that basically she her family like
weren't the richest, but like they didn't

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struggle up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were what are you

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stealing from your classmates in eighteen eighty
five or eighteen ninety five the hoop and

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stick probably Wait was that your fridge? Yeah? I don't want that to

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end, just for podcast reasons because
it's so creepy and I love it adds

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to the to the mood. Oh
and there goes again. So she has

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a lot to say. She's like, oh my god, no way behavior.

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She's basically our co host. She's
the third co host Trion now so

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um, yeah, she was basically
expelled. So she had no other option

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but to move back home because you
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o three, Louise met a traveling
salesman called Henry Bosley. Pair wasted no

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time and soon were married, and
Louise began traveling with Henry for his work.

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In nineteen oh six, the pair
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One evening, Henry arrived home from
work to find Louise in bed with

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a local oil man. You mean
to tell me that she was displaying for

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miscuous behavior again, but the misculous
behave because nowhere. Henry was devastated,

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and two days later he committed suicide
that went from like zero to one hundred

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real fast, real quick. She
must have some pussy magic or something,

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because honey, honey, are you
getting men to fucking kill themselves over like

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Angela in the office when the two
of them are fighting, Dwight and Andy,

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you're fighting over her? Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Louise sold all

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of Henry's belongings, like pretty much
straight away so that she could move to

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Shrevenport Shrevettport, Louisiana. She then
began working as a prostitute because she decided

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she wanted to move to Boston in
nineteen eleven. She wanted to make a

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bit and I'm like three sorry.
Louise began seeing some of the local rich

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men as her clients when she was
in Boston being a hooker. She's a

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high class kind of gal. She's
like, only if you've got money,

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well, prostitution would you gotta do? She would go around to their homes

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and while she would be left unattended, she would steal their wives jewelry in

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order to lawn shops. Why are
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Why you gotta be or something?
Or like she'd be like oh,

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I just have to go to the
toilet real quick freshen up, and then

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you know we're just like rummage.
I just have to go bleach my vagina

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real quick because it's like the early
nineteen hundreds and we don't know about badge

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as yet, so br b.
Yeah, So she stole from their wives

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jewelry in order to sell at paunchops
for like extra cash, get it.

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Louise eventually got caught, no,
and like scattered real quick before she could

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be arrested. I'm pretty sure it
was a wife caught her and was like

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get that fuck out before I actually
stab you, you dumb bitch. No

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way, Oh not the wife,
imagine. So Louise then started to pretend

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that she was a heiress, an
heiress who was forced to run away from

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home. She you know what,
I got a hand it to her.

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She has reinvented herself already, like
twice, three times her third time.

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Yeah, and like she's not merely
like twenty at this point, well,

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like she's basically almost dead back in
those days. You know, well,

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one coffin, she's gone. So
Louise convinced a family to take her in,

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and she began stealing from this family
and then their friends as well.

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She then began buying some some things
from some of the most expensive shops in

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the town, and she was charging
it to the family's account. No way,

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it didn't take long for Louise to
be discovered that, you know,

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she was bullshit, she was plain
old lying. Yeah, she was just

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doing doing a crime or two.
Yeah. The police told Louise that as

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long as she left the town,
they wouldn't press any charges, and it

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was to avoid any more embarrassment to
the family. So it was a like

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high up, high up family.
You know, we're talking like a judge

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or well, she's an heiress.
She could only stay with the high highest

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of higher ups exactly. So it
was like to avoid any more embarrassment,

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if you just leave and don't come
back, okay, will be good and

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you won't press charges anyway. Anyway, Louise then moved to Waco, Texas,

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which I did not know it was
a real place, but don't Yeah,

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Waco, that's where that big but
remember the big church there was and

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a guy like kept a bunch of
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a bunch of people in the church, and the FBI were trying to go

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in and like swatt it and get
people out, and he like exploded the

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church. So yeah, yeah,
So she moved to Wakeo, Texas,

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where she met a wealthy oil baron
Joe Apple. The pair began a romantic

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relationship when Joe was suddenly Fenn shot
dead and some of his diamonds were missing.

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I guess he really wanted a doctor
day. That was such a bad

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badly thought I'd put I'm so sorry, I loved That's okay. It obviously

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naturally didn't take place long to arrest
Louise and charge her with Joe's murder.

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Louise's case then went to trial,
and she told the jury about how she

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had to kill Joe, okay,
because it was himself defend because she was

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claiming that good old Joe had tried
to rape her and she panicked and killed

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him. Jerry found Louise not guilty
and applauded her bravery forgetting that he was

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missing diamonds. Well, I mean, if a guy tries to rape you

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and then you kill him, I
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she has a thing about lying.
WHOA what what. In nineteen thirteen,

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Louise moved back to Dallas, Texas. Didn't take her long to meet a

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local nightclerk, Harry Farrott. I
don't know how to pronounce his name.

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I'm so Harry faut fat. Harry
worked at Saint George's hotel, and you

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guessed it. They quickly got married, pussy. It is reported that Louise

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then stole twenty thousand dollars worth of
jewelry from the hotel that Harry worked at.

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She's not good and police immediately question
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Harry was eventually cleared of any involvement
and they believed that Louise acted alone.

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However, the police did not have
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theft. Louise began having many different
affairs on Harry. Harry became depressed over

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his relationship with Louise and having been
accused of robbery in his job. It

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is reported that Harry hung himself in
the basement of the hotel, but some

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people believe that Louise did have something
to do with his death. Oh my

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god. So why well, if
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he yeah, maybe that's why.
Like she literally walked into his life,

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got married, and then ruined his
life. Yeah, and like, can

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I just this is all in the
space of like two years. Oh my

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god. Yeah, she wastes no
time. In nineteen fifteen, Louise moved

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to Denver, Colorado, where she
met Richard Pete, a local salesman,

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and she wasted no time in marrying
him. And this is then when she

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takes his name, this is husband
number four. Yeah. The pair went

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on to have a daughter together in
nineteen sixteen, Frances Anne, who went

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by Betty for some reason. I
mean, Betty's kind of better than Frances

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I'd take it. Richard and Louise
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Louise wanted to live this wealthy lifestyle, and Richard just did not earn

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enough money to provide for the lifestyle. She wanted. Hey, Louise,

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why don't you get a job?
I mean, you know, just saying.

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In nineteen twenty, Louise packed all
of her belongings and left Richard and

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Betty. She decided she's going to
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She was going to be a star. While Louise was looking for summer to

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live, she met a man,
Jacob C. Denton, a mining engineer

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who was recently widowed. He had
a teenage daughter from like that marriage,

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and he also had a fourteen room
mansion. Oh, I wonder what attracted

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her to him? Family, family
values. Richard was looking to rent out

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his mansion for three hundred dollars a
month, which today is about four thousand,

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five hundred dollars a month, which
for fourteen roomed mansion, it's not

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half bad in La In La.
Somehow, and it's unclear how, but

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somehow, Louise convinced Jacob that she
should move in with him as his living

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companion. She claimed that the pair
were in a sexual relationship, but according

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to Jacob, she was just a
companion and that was it. There was

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nothing like sexual about it. Like
she was literally just to keep him company

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because he was he was a little
bit old. Oh okay, but she's

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trying to keep up appearances, being
like, yeah, we'd be fucking like,

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why why are you lying? Louise
wanted Jacob to marry her, and

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when she asked him about marriage,
he said that he wasn't planning on ever

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remarrying. He was like, that
ship sailed, I'm old, Like I'm

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not doing that. Wait, so
Louise asked him. Yeah, She's like,

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what do you think about marriage?
Like we should get married, like

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marry me. Oh, Louise,
No, I'm already married. And he's

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like, I'm old as fuck.
I'm probably gonna die soon. So like

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nah, and then he dies a
lot sooner. Louise then asked the caretaker

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of the mansion to plant a ton
of dirt in the basement, as she

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wanted to grow some of Jacob's favorite
mushrooms down there. What is that?

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What? Yep, I casually grown
mushrooms and he has favorite mushrooms as well.

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Yeah. On June, I have
a second, but I think it's

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supposed to say twentieth. On June
twentieth, nineteen twenty, Paco went missing.

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This wasn't long after Louise had moved
in as his living companion. Okay,

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she moved in on the fifth of
June. He went missing, like

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June twentieth or something, so literally
two weeks later. Yeah. Louise then

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began forging Jacob's signature in order to
withdraw three hundred dollars from his bank and

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to gain access to his safety deposit
boxes. This is where like Louise decides

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to take an interesting stance with everything. So the bank obviously question Louise.

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They're like, listen, Jacob's a
long term customer, right, and that

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don't look like his signature and we've
literally never seen you before in our lives.

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Who are you? Who are you? Well Curly is like yeah,

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so listen, right, Jacob had
his writing arm amputated because a mysterious Spanish

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woman whom he had had an argument
with, shot him. Of course,

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that's the only explanation. I mean, obviously, obviously, um, for

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some reason, the bank were like, yes, that's legit. Yeah,

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you know what, I don't blame
them, that's a perfectly reasonable excuse.

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I feel like they were like,
that's so absurd it has to be true.

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Yeah. I mean I feel like
the bank were like, that's so

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absurd that it has to be true. Yeah. Back in the day,

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when you're like in school, you
would tell your teacher or your mom that

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you were like vomiting and had violent
diarrhea, and you would go into detail,

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you know, when really you just
wanted to stay off school because you're

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like, it's so embarrassing that they'll
believe it. They wouldn't think I'm just

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embarrassing myself just for fun. Yeah, they'd be like, there's no way

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she's going to tell me she has
explosive diarrhea if she doesn't have it.

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Louise does go on to change her
story, like Girly can't keep stories straight.

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She starts telling people that this mysterious
Spanish woman whom Jacob argued with argued

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with, stabbed him in his writing
arm with a sword. I love that

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she brings the sword into it.
She really like brings up the fantasy play

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here m. She then goes on
to say that he's missing a leg and

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that he's embarrassed by his handicap and
he doesn't want to be seen out in

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public. So he's missing an arm
and a leg at this stage. Yeah,

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I guess he's not all right then, or maybe he is. I

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don't know. Bad pauns today,
you've been hanging out with Nile too much.

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I really have herd help me.
She said that Jacob didn't want to

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return to society until he had his
prosthetic fitted. I mean all right,

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yeah, I get it. So
Louise begins to tell everyone that her and

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Jacob got married, she began driving
his car and spending his money, and

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she was also pawning off some of
his belongings. Louise even managed to convince

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the tenants of Jacob's rental property out
in Arizona to write their checks out to

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her and not to Jacob. Oh
yeah, because you know, the loss

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of a leg and the loss of
an arm would mean that you don't want

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your rental check. Of course,
of course, Jacob's daughter decided that she

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was going to hire a lawyer to
try to find out what happened to her

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father. Like she's like, that's
something, it's not like adding up here.

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I'm curious, Yeah, because where's
the teenager at this point? Was

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she living with her dad? And
then one day her dad's just not there

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and then his weird companion that just
moved in is like, oh, some

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Spanish woman came in and step him
with the sward and then she shut him

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and Lewie's last off of his legs
and now he's differently aired. I think

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like she had moved out at this
stage. I think she was like by

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this rate, is like eighteen,
oh, like living elsewhere on her second

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divorce, five kids. Yeah.
Yeah. The lawyer questioned Louise on Jacob's

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whereabouts, and she told the lawyer
that she didn't know where he was.

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She then told the lawyer that she
would forward on his finances. She would

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forward on like Jacob's finances to Jacob
as soon as she could for him to

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have a look at, and like
would let him know that the teenage daughter

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is like looking for him, okay, and like she's just like, I'll

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do that as soon as I can. I'll get around to it. Meanwhile,

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she's getting fed grape. Louise then
started throwing lavish parties in the mansion,

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and then she decided that she didn't
want to live there anymore and that

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she was going to rent it out. So she's like, you know what,

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I've had my fun in La,
I'm gonna rent this out, convinced

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those to send me the rental checks, and I'm just going to go home

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to my sweet old husband and child. Oh okay, So she's done.

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Like any I have a question though, Yeah, when the new tenants moved

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in, did they ask about the
fucking mushrooms growing in their basement or was

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that just a given? It was
just like you ignore those they're not there.

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M So, while Louise is out
of the mansion, Jacob's daughter hires

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a private investigator to go search the
house for any clues that might be there

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or that might tell her where her
dad is like. She's like, he's

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either they're dead somewhere, or he's
like she's like placed them in a fucking

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mental home or something, or you
know. So, the private investigator is

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sleuthing through the house, an he
goes down to the basement, and here

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he finds then of dirt, mushrooms, and in the ton of dirt is

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the body of Jacob with a bullet
wound in his head. Okay, first

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of all, I feel fucking led
to Okay, there was no mushrooms.

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And secondly, the fact that she
was going to rent that house out with

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a fucking decomposing body in the basement, A girl girl, what make it

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makes sense? What is happening?
So obviously she becomes immediately the prime suspect,

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and it does not take them long
to locate her in Denver at all.

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So Louise is brought into questioning with
the Denver police department, and she's

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unaware that they've found the body,
okay, Like she thinks they're just trying

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to find out like where he is. And she begins telling police about the

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Spanish woman and his amputated arm and
leg, and the police informer that they

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know he's not missing any limbs.
They're like, we know he's not missing

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any limbs. She's like, wait
for it. Then she's like, you

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know that's not Jacob. That's a
body double that Jacob shot so he could

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go disappear. She's riding herself into
a mystery novel. I swear to god,

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how are you finding a body double
shooting him and then putting him in

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your basement under dirt. However,
the police do have DNA evidence and like

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they're like, no, no,
we know what's Jacob, like dental records,

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like man's man's loaded, so like
he's easy to identify because we'll get

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paid to do that. Yeah.
So Louise was tryings fared back to Los

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Angeles, where she was charged with
first degree murder. Louise's trial began on

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January twenty first, nineteen twenty one. She was found guilty and was sentenced

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to life imprisonment. Louise's husband,
Richard remained loyal to Louise for the first

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two years of her sentence. This
side I leave just gave me when she

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said remained loyal, you were like
remain loyal like no like he believed she

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was innocent, but she just left
him. She just abandoned him and her

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child for however long came back,
got arrested for murder and charged with murder.

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Is on trial and found guilty of
said murder. And he's like,

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nah, no, nah, not
my Louise. She would never, she

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would never. In nineteen twenty three, Louise told Richard that they should get

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a divorced so that he could be
free from her and remarry. But really

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it was just because she just was
sick of him and wanted to divorce on

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to us in number seventy eight.
So when the divorce was finalized, Louise

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stopped answering Richard's letters and would refuse
to see him at visitation. Richard became

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distraught. He told Louise he would
wait forever for her to be released.

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However, Louise was like, I'm
done with you, yeah, bornel bitch,

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And in nineteen twenty four, Richard
committed suicide in a motel room in

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Arizona. So that's the third man
to commit suicide over Louise over her.

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When asked about it, Louise said
that he must have just felt guilty over

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her conviction. And she talked about
how he had per health why would he

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feel guilty over her conviction, And
she's just like fine, whatever, okay,

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bye, Like she's too chill about
this. This woman is crazy.

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I'm starting to think she's not one
hundred percent all there. Well, the

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story doesn't end here, oh okay, So before I go any further,

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we're just going to take a quick
little lad break. Hey guys, Megan

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here, I just wanted to tell
you about the season of That So Fucked

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Up Presents that I was lucky enough
to be a part of with host Ashley

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Richards. Every season actually covers a
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Hamoka, are more. Here's a
sneak peek. Are you ready for the

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gnarliest part of the story? Nope? Okay, here we go. She

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then went on his skin him and
did this so precisely that his skin wasn't

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one piece. I am fucking nauseous. Louise was sentenced to San Quentin State

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Prison, but she was eventually transferred
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there, Louise maintained the flower garden. She was the dentist's assistant, and

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she enjoyed She enjoyed writing for the
prison newspaper. She's a busy little bee.

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Was she grown mushrooms in the garden. No, because she doesn't know

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how to. She had no dead
body to put down. So Louise was

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00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.599
actually considered to be a model inmate. She was granted parole for good behavior

408
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:52.760
in nineteen thirty nine, after serving
eighteen years, she was released into the

409
00:37:52.800 --> 00:38:00.719
custody of Jesse Mercy, a woman
who believed that Louise was innocent of murdering

410
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.679
Jacob and should be set free.
Because you have to remember the only reason

411
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:12.079
she was charged and found guilty wasn't
anything to do with like DNA evidence or

412
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:14.920
anything like that. It was literally
just like she was the last person to

413
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:19.679
see him alive. She had this
a wild story. Yeah, well it

414
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.639
was the lies that would got her
convicted, you know. Yeah, But

415
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.199
like she's like no, no,
Like as far as I knew he was

416
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.800
alive in that case, then still
if you knew that your partner, whoever

417
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.280
the fuck this guy is to her
at that stage, has a dead body

418
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:40.159
of his body double, his stunt
double h in his basement, why didn't

419
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.719
you say anything? What do you
need a stunts double for or a body

420
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.440
double for in like ninety, this
is twenty, this is so, this

421
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:53.480
is the thing. So she gave
Louise a job as her live inmate,

422
00:38:54.679 --> 00:39:00.199
and she was then granted permission to
change her name to Alee. Now it

423
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.440
does not confuse everybody. I'm still
going to call her Louise, but everyone

424
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:12.480
she meets up from here on out
believe her name is Anna Lee. Jesse

425
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:17.719
died of natural causes, and Louise
then had to move into her parole officer,

426
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:25.440
Emily Latham's home. As then her
parole officer became ill in nineteen forty

427
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:30.440
three, Louise became her career and
approximately two weeks later, Emily died of

428
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:38.079
a stroke. Then a woman called
Margaret Logan, who was a friend of

429
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:46.679
Louise's offered her it's under Oh no, I didn't. That's really sad.

430
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.239
Then Margaret Logan, a friend of
Louise's, offered her a job as a

431
00:39:54.320 --> 00:40:01.079
living nurse for her husband, Arthur
Logan. Louise met a banker named Lee

432
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:07.039
Borden Judson. Lee knew Louise as
only Anna Lee. It was reported that

433
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:13.159
the pair got married in May nineteen
forty four, but Louise kept the wedding

434
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.679
a secret as it violated her parole
because obviously, when her parole officer died

435
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:23.320
like she just got a new parole
officer. Louise told Margaret how she was

436
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:29.079
due to inherit property in Denver and
it needed to be renovated, and she

437
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:34.960
asked if Margaret would be interested in
investing in the property. Now, Margaret

438
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.400
didn't have much money as she had
to give up work to care for her

439
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:45.960
husband, Arthur, who was suffering
from dementia. However, she believed in

440
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:52.119
Louise and she agreed to invest in
the property. Louise then tried to have

441
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:59.480
Arthur taken into an institution for his
dementia. The closest she ever got was

442
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:05.440
when he had Arthur in the hospital
to have him evaluated, and Margaret was

443
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:09.159
going to go along with the evaluation, but then Margaret felt too guilty about

444
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:17.119
abandoning her husband and she took him
home. Oh my heart. Louise then

445
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.159
began telling the neighbors that Arthur would
get violent with Margaret and that he would

446
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:29.519
often attack her when he was having
a bad episode. Louise then told her

447
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.159
husband Lee that she had to go
stay with Margaret for a little while to

448
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:39.199
discuss business about her investment in the
Denver property. Soon after this, Margaret

449
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:49.360
disappeared. Louise cashed out train tickets
that, like Margaret, had to use

450
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:55.079
the money to pay off debt.
Louise then signed Arthur into Patton State Hospital,

451
00:41:55.239 --> 00:42:00.280
pretending to be a family member.
Shortly after this, Louise and Lee

452
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:07.840
moved into the Logan home. Louise
told all of Arthur's doctors that on May

453
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.079
twenty ninth, Arthur had gotten physical
with Margaret during an episode and had bitten

454
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:17.039
her on the nose and neck,
and this led Arthur to be held at

455
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:23.840
the state hospital on a court order, but that could be easily bruthon though.

456
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:30.679
No, wait, so he did
actually get a court order or she's

457
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:35.440
telling people. He did actually get
the court order, so she is like,

458
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.719
she gets him in there, pretending
to be a family member, and

459
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:45.880
then she goes and she tells the
doctor, like all the doctors and nurses

460
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.519
that oh, like, he attacked
his wife Margaret, bit her on the

461
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.800
nose, bit her on the neck
when he was having a really bad episode,

462
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.760
and she's really super injured. And
they're like, oh, well,

463
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.960
then in that case, he is
a danger to others and we'll have to

464
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:09.639
keep him. Yeah, okay,
okay, I get it. Louise then

465
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:15.559
began telling neighbors and friends the same
story, and she informed them that Margaret

466
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.800
was left disfigured by the attack and
was self conscious of how she looked.

467
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.239
She told everyone that Margaret didn't want
to be seen like that, so she

468
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:30.119
was hiding out. On December sixth, nineteen forty four, Arthur Logan passed

469
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:37.920
away believing his wife had abandoned him
at a state hospital. Louise, isn't

470
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:44.559
it like that per man just thought
his wife abandoned him. Louise had Arthur's

471
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:50.519
body donated to science, claiming it
was Arthur's wish. So that's because you

472
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:54.559
didn't want to pay for your funeral. Yeah, stingy bitch, like you

473
00:43:54.599 --> 00:44:00.719
put him in there, Yeah,
donate his body to science fuck off?

474
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.880
Like I mean do that, because
I will. I would look into that.

475
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.239
To be honest, for myself,
I think it's cool, but like,

476
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.119
don't do on behalf of other people. Don't make that decision for somebody

477
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:21.159
else exactly. Several weeks later,
Louise's parole officers started to notice that Margaret's

478
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:28.960
signature looked different from June onwards on
her like parole forms, because obviously they

479
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.800
had to fill out forms to say
like, yes, she lives here,

480
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.840
Yes she works for us, you
know, like no, she's not doing

481
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:40.320
anything illegal as far as we know. Yeah, So she's like, that's

482
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:46.880
weird. So she became suspicious that
Louise was possibly filling out the forms and

483
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:52.400
signing her parole forms herself, which
is obviously against the law and against her

484
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.159
parole. So she took the evidence
to her superior, who agreed that the

485
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:01.840
signatures were different, like the ones
from before June were definitely different to the

486
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:08.960
ones after June. So they both
went to the district attorney Fred Hauser.

487
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:15.639
The parole officer told Fred Hauser,
who Louise was that her name isn't really

488
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:22.400
Annaie, that she's Louise Pete,
and Fred Hauser actually remembers the case and

489
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.519
it's like, oh, yeah,
I remember that, like she like killed

490
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:31.679
some old guy. Oh she got
exposed. So he's like, yeah,

491
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:37.760
that's super duper weird. So he
decides that he's not going to waste any

492
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:43.199
time and he just and he sends
a homicide detective over to the Logan Logan

493
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.320
household. Didn't take long to figure
out that something was up, because when

494
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:53.199
the detective is questioning, like all
the neighbors and family and friends, they

495
00:45:53.280 --> 00:46:00.199
all have the same story, but
like a different variation. No one has

496
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:07.719
the same exact story, Like no
one has the same information. Why can't

497
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.920
she not keep a lie straight?
It's like, sis, that's all you

498
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.960
had to do, and you probably
would have got away with it, yeah,

499
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:19.639
literally. And on top of that, no one had seen Margaret for

500
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:24.760
almost seven months at this stage,
and while Arthur was in hospital, he

501
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.000
hadn't a single visit from Margaret,
which everyone is like, you know,

502
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.800
like that's super weird because like she
loved her husband to death and like would

503
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:39.840
even if she was disfigured, like
she'd still risk go seeing him. On

504
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:45.599
December twentieth, nineteen forty four,
early in the morning, several detectives sneak

505
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:52.440
onto the Logan property. Two different
officers snucked down to the cellar while the

506
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.159
lead detective, Tad Brown had a
luck on the porch. When he looked

507
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.599
through the window, he saw Louise
and Leeting looking over a strong box.

508
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:10.480
Detective Brian rang a strong box that
I'm pretty sure it's like basically what they

509
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:19.000
would a strong box be, like
what they use in um what's called I

510
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:23.360
just said it earlier. What take
a head from the bank, like a

511
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:29.039
safe a safety deposit box. Yeah, would that be like a strong box

512
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:34.199
like something that like you can you
know like yeah, no, I've I've

513
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.280
no like proof of this, but
in my head, I would imagine in

514
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:44.519
it is probably Arthur and Margaret's wills
and like the deed to the house,

515
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:49.599
and you know, like something that
you'd keep like all the important bits like

516
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.719
as song, like something like a
strong box would be like something that wouldn't

517
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.159
catch fire. Yes, yeah,
so you keep in all your important shit

518
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.639
in there, like the d to
your house, your life and sharance policies,

519
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:08.559
all that you're vape. So Detective
Brown rings the doorbell, and Louise

520
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:14.719
is like super annoyed, like she's
like, fuck sake Wise, there police

521
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:19.920
at my door, fuck me,
fuck my life because you've killed people.

522
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:27.679
She reluctantly lets them in. She's
like, let's do this, I guess.

523
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.280
Detective Brin wastes no time and he's
like, where the fox's Margaret?

524
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:42.159
Yeah, and she Louise replies,
quote, Oh, she's in a sanitarium

525
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:52.679
near Patton. Her husband died there
December sixth. Louise, sweetie, that's

526
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.760
something that they can check up on. Yeah, and I feel like they

527
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.599
would have already checked at this stage
of the game. Louise, so like

528
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:09.119
any hoodles. She then went on
to say that Margaret was recovering from plastic

529
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:16.320
surgery from her attack. She comes
up the wildest shit, I'm sorry,

530
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.960
no, like, where does your
brain go? No? She has an

531
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:30.280
overall, overam active, overactive imagination's
crazy. After being questioned, Louise went

532
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.199
on to admit that she'd been signing
the forms. That she had been signing

533
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.719
her parole forms, but she was
claiming that Margaret had told her to do

534
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:44.639
it while she was recovering. Detective
Brian decides that he's just gonna come out

535
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:52.679
and he's like, did you hurt
Margaret Killer? Did you killer? Comme

536
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:59.480
on it, and Louise replies,
you know, Jean bis Qualez told me

537
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:04.559
someday I'd blow my top again.
I'll only talk to Jean now. Jean

538
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.639
Qualez, and I'm so sorry if
I'm saying that I'm wrong. He was

539
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:14.920
the county sheriff at the time of
the murder of Jacob Denton, so he

540
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.400
like dealt with her, okay,
and she's like, he told me I'd

541
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:25.599
blow my top again someday. Imagine
the county Sheriff's like, yeah, you'll

542
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:30.320
probably killed somebody again one day,
but hey, we're gonna let you out

543
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:36.159
on good behavior. Yeah you mentioned
serve life, but here after eighteen years,

544
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.159
you're good. You're good. Louise
was then taken to the police department.

545
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:46.079
The police searched the Logan property to
try and find Margaret's body, obviously,

546
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:52.639
and eventually they dig up her body
under a freshly painted under a painted

547
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:59.440
under a freshly planted tree. When
police were questioning Louise, they inform her

548
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:05.679
that they found Margaret's body, and
she finally made a confession just wasn't the

549
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.679
one that they're hoping for. Can
I guess? Did she blame Lee?

550
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:15.440
No, she doesn't blame Lee.
It's worse. She decided to tell police

551
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:22.000
that while having an episode, Arthur
got physical with Margaret, beat her,

552
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:28.559
and then shot her. That is
so sick that both of these people are

553
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:34.239
dead. Nobody can like defend themselves, and that they were a loving couple.

554
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.039
He would have never heard her,
She would have never heard him.

555
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.679
She said that she felt no one
would believe her because of her history,

556
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:46.440
so she buried Margaret's body and placed
Arthur in the care of the state hospital.

557
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:58.599
However, the gun that was used
to shoot Margaret belonged to Louise's old

558
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:05.400
parole officer, the one that we
got the smoking gun, the one that

559
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.639
she was a living care for for
a whole of two weeks before the woman

560
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:15.280
had a stroke. Yeah, yeah, that gun. She still her gun.

561
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.400
How did nobody come looking for her
gun? I would have imagined,

562
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:23.079
like, yeah, like that stuff
all has to be taken back. That's

563
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:30.559
not Marca. Margaret's autopsy showed that
she was shot in the neck from behind

564
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:36.559
while on or near a telephone.
She was then hit in the head with

565
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.599
a blunt object. The blows to
the head were the official cause of death.

566
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:44.920
So the woman didn't die from the
gun shop. How did they know

567
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.440
she was on or near a telephone. I don't I'm assuming they found like

568
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.719
pieces of a telephone. Oh okay. I thought they were gonna like say

569
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.320
some crazy fucking nineteen fifty shit or
whatever, being like, oh, there's

570
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.840
many active levels in her blood,
you know, I mean nineteen forty four.

571
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:07.840
Very well. Police question Lee Judson, and he stated that he had

572
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.320
believed every lie his wife had told
him, and he believed that she had

573
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:17.280
nothing to do with Margaret's disappearance.
Like when Margaret disappeared, he was like,

574
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.840
I had no reason not to believe
her. And he's like, I

575
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.280
didn't even know her name was Louise. I thought it was Anna. Lee.

576
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:30.880
This man is something special because he
falls in love gets married to somebody

577
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:32.320
he doesn't know anything about. That's
okay, no fault of his one.

578
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:37.679
We can we can get down with
that. Secondly, this woman that he's

579
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.800
just married is like, hey,
I know a special place and then she

580
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:45.559
just brings him to this like random
house that it's just empty, and she's

581
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.880
like, we can just like live
here, mortgage, what is that?

582
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:58.599
What is that? He's just like
okay with it? Yeah, pretty much.

583
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.679
Police question Lee on and off for
weeks, but eventually determined that Lee

584
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:08.320
was telling the truth that he was
released on January eleventh, nineteen forty five.

585
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:19.239
Depressed and embarrassed by what Louise had
done, Lee threw himself Dennis stairwell,

586
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.800
oh my god, I'm laughing from
your Oh my god, enough for

587
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:40.039
this leg sentence. Just fyr okay, Lee died for me in fact a

588
00:54:45.079 --> 00:55:01.079
laugh. Oh my god, he
died the timing. I'm very sad that

589
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:10.360
the bad died. Don't care.
I'm not m Lee died from the impact

590
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:15.760
and his injuries. And that is
the like fourth person to commit suicide on

591
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:23.719
this woman because of this woman.
Ah hm. So I'm just gonna take

592
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:30.320
another little quick outbreak and then we'll
wreck this baby up and we're back from

593
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:37.880
her at break me. So.
Louise's trial began on April twenty third,

594
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:43.519
nineteen forty five. The prosecution pointed
out to the jury that the murder of

595
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:49.639
Margaret Logan is similar to that of
Jacob Denton. A neighbor then testified that

596
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:53.480
she had gone over to the Logan
residence to tell Louise that Arthur Logan had

597
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:59.920
died, and Louise almost seemed happy
about the news. When the neighbor asked,

598
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:04.239
like, why don't you seem so
like, why are you almost happy

599
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:09.519
about this? Louise replied, quote, Oh, he's an all sick man.

600
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:15.679
He's better off dead. Oh whoa, okay, Louise, No need

601
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:22.239
to be so curt about it.
Tell us how you really feel. Swear

602
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:28.320
to call it like damn. Louise
then decided that she wanted to take the

603
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:32.440
stand against her legal team's wishes.
They're like, no, no, please,

604
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:37.400
don't. You're not that lovable,
and she's like, I got pussy

605
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:43.760
power. Okay, that'll be fine. Do you know how many men have

606
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:49.639
killed themselves for me? Louise,
sweetie, it's not something to be bread

607
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:55.559
up. It's really not. Louise
claimed that she was unsure who killed Jacob

608
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.000
Denton, and then went on to
tell her version of the events the night

609
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:06.559
that Margaret Logan was murdered, which
was that Arthur was having a bad episode,

610
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:14.920
shot her, beat her all that
jazz the prosecution like or whilst they're

611
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:19.360
like, you know, cross examining
her, ask her how long it took

612
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:24.599
her to dig Margaret's grave, to
which Louise responds, quote, I don't

613
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:28.360
know. The night was endless,
and I don't want to talk about it

614
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.280
anymore. Oh okay, you can't
just take this down and then be like,

615
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:37.440
actually, I just like don't want
to talk about it anymore. This

616
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.960
conversation has just been going on like
far too long, so like, can

617
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.440
we wrap it up or something?
Yeah, you're kind of boring me.

618
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:51.800
On May twenty eighth, nineteen forty
five, Louise was found guilty of first

619
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:58.840
degree murder. After the jury deliberated
for three hours, Louise was sentenced to

620
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:05.199
death. Louise maintained that she was
innocent, and she appealed her sentence several

621
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:09.239
times, but it was never successful, and on April eleventh, nineteen forty

622
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:14.920
seven, Louise was executed in the
gass chamber at San Quentin State Prison.

623
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:22.960
Louise is the second woman to be
executed in the California state by the state.

624
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:27.559
Damn she that was a swift end
for her after all of that life,

625
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:34.320
after all, like after all of
those like lies and like reinventing yourself

626
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:38.599
twenty billion times, and like getting
married another twenty billion times and she didn't

627
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:45.239
have more kids. It's weird.
But at the same time, like she

628
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:50.480
was just marrying these men for money, Like but was she getting money because

629
00:58:50.519 --> 00:59:00.039
she had to steal from Arthur and
Margaret to pay off debt. So she

630
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:06.400
was trying to marry for money.
She just wasn't very good at it because

631
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.880
she killed them. She killed the
men too quickly, like girl high her

632
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:12.679
in like a few years. Get
yourself written into the wheel, you know,

633
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:15.760
get yourself written into the wheel.
Let them get their money up a

634
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:19.800
little bit, come on, and
then like have them die of like natural

635
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:24.320
causes. It's not a gunshot wound
to the head. Yeah, you're you're

636
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.920
being a little bit too obvious,
a little bit too for it. Louise,

637
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.119
We're gonna need you to kind of
dial up back a smidge, all

638
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:35.199
right, Like come on, hunt, have you never seen how to get

639
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:42.800
away with wurther m clearly that she's
being a silly ghost, But damn,

640
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:45.960
what is with these people? Who
else was it? You told me a

641
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:50.400
story about somebody else before? And
she also had like fifty million husbands,

642
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.039
Yeah I did not too long ago
actually as well. I can't remember that

643
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:58.280
woman's I feel like her name was
Elizabeth, and she kept naming all of

644
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:00.800
her children Elizabeth. Yes exactly.
We were like, girl, find a

645
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:07.159
new different. We also googled when
condoms were invented. I forget when they

646
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:13.079
were invented. Yeah, same,
but they were invented at that time.

647
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:17.920
I think of that. I believe
h find it heat. We can't remember.

648
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.760
You could just get yourself a job
might be easier than killing all these

649
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:29.239
men. What happens to her prostitution
gig? I mean, she wasn't very

650
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:37.800
good at it, fair enough Mary
Anne Cotton, Oh yeah, that's her

651
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.599
name. She did. She named
all of her children Elizabeth, though she

652
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:45.760
was fucking wild. It's a it's
a rollercoaster of a story because she gets

653
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.400
caught and you're like, oh,
so this is it, and then they

654
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:58.280
release her and she gets caught again
and you're like, wait what, Yeah,

655
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:04.320
she is not good at whatever she's
trying to do whatsoever. No,

656
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:09.880
she's really really bad at it.
And you know what the people listening to

657
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:17.519
this episode are not really really bad
at is subscribing to our podcast m wherever

658
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:24.320
they listen to us, exactly on
all platforms You can follow us on Spotify,

659
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.639
Apple Music, Deezer. Oh,
I'm pretty sure ron all of them

660
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:34.519
at this stage. You can also
follow us on Instagram and on Twitter at

661
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:39.719
give us Morgue. We're also on
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662
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:43.880
you wanted to see who you were
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663
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:47.159
follow us on our own personal instance, which is at Megpale Underscore and at

664
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:50.840
like as Nave. What did you
think of that segue? That was a

665
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.280
pretty quick segue, right, That
was clever? That was that was clever.

666
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:57.519
I would like to say, it's
sincere thank you, and it's sincere

667
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:02.519
sorry for being away for so along. And there are a few of you,

668
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:06.440
a good few of you who are
new and only coming to the podcast

669
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.440
kind of pretty recently. We actually
had like a pretty big surge in listeners,

670
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:15.119
which is absolutely amazing. Literally,
I don't think people ever realize how

671
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.239
much it means, but it means
a lot. And like, you know,

672
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.400
it's gonna be a year. I
can feel it in my bones.

673
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:28.960
Yeah, and guys, we're just
getting started. We are just getting started.

674
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.719
And if we fall off for like
more than one week, you need

675
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:36.960
to bully us. You need to
bully us back into it, because you

676
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.159
know what happens is where like nobody
listens to us anyway, nobody's even gonna

677
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.719
miss us. So what we know, like we know that there are people

678
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.320
that they're listening. They've left plenty
of amazing reviews, by the way,

679
01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:53.320
which thank you so much for those
to literally make me cry every time exactly.

680
01:02:54.079 --> 01:03:00.119
But I am a weepy person,
weepy needy so just as well,

681
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.440
and I would like used to give
all of your support and all of your

682
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:13.079
love to our knive. She was
like formally diagnosed with fiber maylja, fiber

683
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.480
maylga. It's a hard word to
say. I struggled with it too,

684
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:22.000
don't worry, yeah, said it's
a big word, but I'm I'm a

685
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.760
big, old exhausted person. It
was. It's not funny, but it

686
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.639
kind of is funny. She messaged
me one day with the screaming shout symptoms.

687
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:34.639
That was like it you know,
like tiredness. Yeah, it's like

688
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:39.920
tiredness, like sore joint, and
then it's like tired him crying slash weepiness

689
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:51.000
And I was like I cry like
all the time. It was one of

690
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.280
those things where you're not like what
happened earlier. You're not supposed to laugh,

691
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:59.199
but you can't help but laugh.
And sometimes when you try stop laughing,

692
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:04.679
you laugh even harder. Exactly,
But God, yeah, send you

693
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:10.280
all of your love and support.
And if you want to listen to more

694
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:15.239
content and you've binged on us,
guys, if you've binged on us and

695
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:18.280
you're over it, you want to
go listen to somebody else another podcast that

696
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:24.239
we'd really hugely recommend. I absolutely
love them, and I was lucky enough

697
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:28.679
to be on a couple of episodes
with Actually, That's So Fucked Up.

698
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:31.880
Yeah, go blaxing claps, snaps
and claps. Go listen to That's So

699
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.719
Fucked Up. You may have heard
of them before. We talk about them

700
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:38.639
on this show all the time,
and I will likely be on a couple

701
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:44.119
of episodes to Actually in the future. So go listen, enjoy. If

702
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:46.719
you want more making content, you
know what a finder? Okay, we'd

703
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:53.320
love you guys. We'll see you
next week. Don't worry. We're at

704
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:57.039
it now. We've got a really
tough case for you next week. Like

705
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.880
there's not going to be any laughing
next week, then the week after,

706
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:09.280
all right, let's go to bed
sluncha. What's her second name, Louise

707
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:15.000
Pete. I want to look at
her. Get ready to be warmly disappointed.

708
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:17.320
This woman looks like a midwife.
That's going to be really mean to

709
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:23.119
me. You're right about the mean
part. Okay, Well, back in

710
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:32.360
nineteen twenty, she was something I
guess. I mean, Oh ah,

711
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:38.639
thank you. I told my Ali
could tell a joke. You can tell

712
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:42.320
it at the end. Oh my
god, he doesn't even have it ready.

713
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:45.920
I do have it ready. You
do this all the time, Nile.

714
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.320
That's the real reason. He gave
her tea, just so that you

715
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.960
could come in. And she said
a joke. He wasn't, actually,

716
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:59.719
I'm sure so. My penis was
in the Guinness Book of Horror Records,

717
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:05.599
but the librari, being the smallest, the librarian told me to take it

718
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:15.039
out about it, Yeah, like
I had it between the pages. No,

719
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:20.880
we get the joke now and you
don't need to explain it, thank

720
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:29.760
you very much. Yeah. Yeah, he's giving me the evils from the

721
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:33.480
door as well. Oh that's so
funny. He did bring me a baby's

722
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.760
coffee that was so it can't be
bad. He was joking forbad

