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let's welcome Infidel Pharaoh to the stage. Infidel, what's up? And welcome
to the boiler room. Thank you, sir. Glad to be here.
Missed you guys last week. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man, very
glad you're with us here. Lots to go through tonight. I'm sorry we're
starting a little bit late and appreciate you staying up late with us. Man
now, oh good man, looking forward to it. Yes, there is
a lot to talk about tonight, for sure. For sure. All right,
let's welcome to the stage, Grunt, what's up? Man, Welcome
to the boiler room. What's up? Everybody? UD taking a different approach
today, just doing some audio because it's uh, it's wait, way late,
but I figured I'll join you guys for a little bit and have a
little bit of fun and then so I get a couple hours of sleep and
go back to work. All right, man, don't let us keep you
up too late. Feel free to punch out whenever you need to. Glad
to have you. And uh, I guess you're in your pj's right,
in your your BUCkies full body pjs with the flip down butt that. Yeah,
that's actually exactly what I'm wearing. How did you know what else would
one be wearing at night other than your technical BUCkies pjs. Yeah, I've
got got BUCkies pjs on literally in my bedroom, just chilling hanging out.
All right, man, all right, cool beans, glad to have you
here. Let's welcome Baze lit Analyzer based. What's up? Welcome to the
boiler room? Yo, what's up? Everybody? Happy? Spooky season?
Spooked? Ob er ooh, tomorrow's Friday the thirteenth. Is everybody sitting there
with their pumpkin spice getting spooky? If everybody's doing well the festive season?
Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, all right, let's welcome Jay Dyer
to the stage. I believe Jamie Henshaw's in the background there, Jay,
Great to have you, thanks dud. Yeah, I got my pumpkin spice
hamas latte because we're all gonna get blown out tomorrow and terror events that were
staged by the terrorists tomorrow, right right, yeah, Friday, Yeah,
yeah exactly. It's like you don't even need to buy toilet paper, right,
you can just kiss your ass goodbye. We're all gone tomorrow. It's
all gone. Right, Well, it's good to be with you on the
eve of the apocalyps All right, let's welcome ruckus to the stage, Rugas.
What's up? Welcome to the boy of the room. Yo, I'm
operating three machines tonight, so I just posted on Facebook on my other equipment
there in the other room, on the facebooks there, so go do the
thing over there. Got a cool graphic for tonight, the dude with the
fighting fists. We've got a full house tonight. Looks like we have a
late edition. So sorry if I missed your name on the announcement. But
yeah, happy to be here. We got a big room, sure,
and we got some big news, big events happening. Hey, this could
technically be the last boiler room ever, right because the world might end tomorrow,
who the heck knows, but we might get into that we might not,
but if we do, great, If not great, great either way.
Absolutely we could talk about underwater basket weaving all night and painting mushrooms and
I'd be perfectly happy. But we shall see. It's good to see your
records, all right. Let's welcome Wandering Wolf to the stage. What's up
man, How you doing? Welcome to the boiler room. Good evening everyone.
I'm doing fantastic, And I for one am happy about the late start
because I managed to slide in right as you were up the intro music.
So I'm happy to be here. And if this is the last boiler room
that we all do together, I will be glad to go up into apocalyptic
smoke with such fine people. That's right. That's right man, all right,
and let's welcome the one, the only, the very lovely keeper of
all things Whiskey Tango foxtrotting on the interwebs, Lovely Spore. Welcome to the
boiler room. How you doing? Thank you? I am very happy to
be here as well. And I mean similar sentiments as other people have said.
If this is my last night, these are the people I want to
spend it with. Yeah, well, personally, I don't think we need
to worry about it. We're pretty resilient and well armed country, so we'll
just have to wait and see. But I don't know, we'll get into
that maybe at some point here. But Mark Twain said I think it was
Mark Twain. He said something along the lines of ninety five percent of the
things that I worry and stress about never came real. There you go,
There you go. Something to keep in mind. Now, let's see here
spore. That was loud in my ear. Sorry, everybody. What do
we break in the ice with tonight? I believe this one was brought to
us by our lovely listener, Brian Snotty, And the title of the article
is, oh great, I have an ad that always helps. Okay,
Okay, here we go, killer clown stalking village weeks before Halloween, leaving
residents terrified. Yeah, exactly. I mean I kind of like, you
know, there's a few articles and ice breakers that were brought to my attention
that like once I actually looked at them and I'm like, oh my gosh,
this is too dark. I mean, like, okay, kind of
funny title, you know, Firecracker and a woman's vagina, And then you
read it and it's just like, oh my god, yeahs, yes,
sorry what oh yeah, you guys covered this. You guys covered the same
thing, this phenomenon years ago, exactly a few times. Actually, this
happened a few times pre COVID, and it was like kind of you know,
funny and weird at the first time, like oh, okay, is
there like actually something going on? No, no, and then it was
just like okay, this again. And then of course post COVID, then
we've got the wandering gimps on the street. So we've been there, and
then now we're back to this. So this is in Glasgow. It's a
little village in Glasgow, Scotland, and this guy is basically, to sum
this up, he is copying Penny Wise from what what movie was that?
The It? Yeah it. So he's like and he's recording himself doing things
like snarling at the camera and like he's got the same makeup, and he's
leaving balloons places and things like that. Like I don't know, I don't
know what you guys think about this. Are you guys scared? Hello?
We all float down here? Yeah? Very scary? Thanks man, Thanks,
We're gonna say ruckus. We all float down here. You know what's
so weird? I was, he sure. Night the other night we went
to we only have a few like local eateries in our town here, pretty
small handful of places to go out and hopefully trust the food that you're gonna
get. And there's one that we've been going to ever since we moved here
eight years ago. And we walked outside of it and it's a nice place.
Jay and Jamie, you've been there, Rucus, you're gonna be there
soon. It's it's it is a very expensive place if you go to the
dining area, and there's also a bar area that has, like, you
know, we're reasonable prices and discounts on drinks and things like that. And
we've actually never been to the fancy side of the restaurant. We've only been
to the bar area where you can get the bar food. But when we
when we left the place the other night, there was a dude that was
not from our area sitting outside and he straight up said, oh, you
guys must be really well off. You're eating in the most expensive place in
town. Can you, you know, give me some work, give me
some money. Like it was like it was really strange, and I feel
like this is like, I mean, our our town has changed a lot
in the last several years, and I find that to be a bit scarier
to have somebody stalking certain you know, eateies things like that, looking for
people to ask for things from. Did he say, actually give me work?
Did you say that? Yeah? Actually, oh really interesting. They
usually like want money, but I never seen someone else they have work for
me. That's what he said, Ray Bright. I'm not going to be
able to repeat everything that guy said in that conversation, but yeah, I
take your points for but yeah, he did say. I mean, it
was a very you know, convoluted sort of you know, a sad situation.
You know, has a car but the car doesn't work, can't get
work because he doesn't have a car, needs money to fix the car,
to get to the judge, you know, you know the doom loop there.
So he was experiencing that doom loop and came up with a couple of
creative ways to ask for help, you know. But definitely a little bit
of judgment in there also about you know, you're in my capabilities to help,
but friendly you know, I wouldn't. Yeah, no, no,
I'm not trying to say anything bad about the guy, I'm just saying it's
just the societal change. You're societal change where we have you know, people
that are that I mean, you've been talking about this a lot on T
and T. It's like, we need to look out for the citizens of
the United States. You know, that's what our government should be doing right
now, and yet we're just you know, handing all of our taxpayer money
over to other countries. And so, I guess my main main point is
that I'm not afraid of the clown. I'm afraid of what's actually happening in
our world. I thought you were going to say you went to a scot
Test restaurant and they had some some hagis and that you were more terrified.
Why does everybody hate on higas. It's like people hating on like liver worsts
because it's nasty. Bro, you just say liver Wars? Did you just
recite? I love Liver Wars especially. I don't want any I guess from
Hamish McGonagall. Outside of the bar. In my my previous hometown there,
Albuquerque, New Mexico, menudo was pretty big. I've never had that either,
But here it's fabruous. It's so good. Never had it. Yeah.
Oh anyways, back to the icebreaker. When I mentioned is the tod
Jamie earlier she said that the time that she had been living in for many
years was the first breaking incident from a creepy clown on the streets. It
is that is literally like that whole situation is the epitome of fuck around and
find out. Like if you come up to me with a clown costume and
like when it's dark outside, you're gonna have a pistol in your face,
like just straight up like do they do they not? I mean it's Scotland.
They probably aren't even allowed to have knives or some ship like the UK
they have knives in Glasgow. Yeah they yeah, they they'll give you a
Glasgow quess. You made a loglass smashed across your foot your face, Like,
who thinks? What was Wasn't there a recent there was a recent story
about that because some dude was like making tiktoks and ship about, you know,
running up and scaring people or some ship and he got shot and then
like sued the guy like you come within a couple of feet of me in
my face, I'm probably gonna pull a pistol on you too, that was
Are you talking about the one that happened in the in the mall? Yes,
yeah, yeah, like the food court or something. Yeah, the
the YouTube prankster went up to some guy, and you know, all these
months later, we finally have video of it. You can actually see video
as of like last week of the prankster going up to the guy. You
can see the guy like, I mean, I don't think he had He's
gonna have some legal problems for sure, but you can see the argument that
he might be making if he has good legal counsel because he got exonerated,
didn't he did he? I don't know. Yeah, he got off.
Oh really okay, got off. Yeah. And the and the guy that
was smoked is still alive. He's fine. Yeah, got smoked in them
all. Yeah. By the way, Limerick is the stabbing capital of Europe.
Just so everybody knows. That's a nice fy. I got told me
that when I went there. Here useless knowledge again, that's right, you
know it so there and I don't know what the rules are. I'm not
sure what city or town that happened in. The guy that shot him shot
the dude in the mall, but it was in Dulles. It was in
it was in northern Virginia, Okay. In Texas, we have like the
law is super kind of skewed. I guess you could say, it's not
like there's a little bit of gray area there, but there's like the three
foot rule. You have a personal bubble very easily, you know, justifiable
here. People call it the castle doctrine and protecting your home blah blah blah.
But if somebody comes up to you, and I'll clarify this to be
sure, within like three feet of your personal space, you have every right
to defend yourself by whatever means you know necessary to handle the threat. I
guess so unless unless, right, unless you're in Austin and you're dealing with
a Black Lives Matter protester, then those rules don't count. Apparently, well
nothing counts against Black Lives Matter because you know they're fucking, you know,
outstanding goddamn citizens. Yeah, Jay, do you remember when we first started
seeing this stuff? Like how many years ago was this? You had to
throw in my my penny wise? Are you talking about penny wise? Shit?
What people? Are people dressing up like clowns and stuff? Yeah?
That was twenty fifteen, sixteen ish. I remember. I remember it was
around the time that it was coming out the you know, Stephen King,
the Part one, and I remember thinking, all right, it's this like
viral marketing, and then I think people just kind of doing it to be
be weird and create you know, TikTok and viral video clips and stuff,
and it is a weird phenomenon. Then we had what a couple of shooters
remember the Batman Joker or the Joker, not not the James Holmes, no,
the Joker Killer guy that like went and killed and killed people. Oh
that yeah, yeah, incident like the weirdo like he didn't shoot you.
I think a rampeople with a car or something. I forget exactly what it
was, but there was another Joker Killer basically after or around the time that
the The New Joker came out with Joaquin Phoenix. There was a Joker Killer
anyway, right, Yeah, it's weird to see the clown meme com back,
but it does seem to. So I'm looking to see what the new
Stephen King crap as is coming out, because I'm thinking, like, is
it just another Stephen King film. He's a great PR Department. If this
is all his doing it kind of made me think of your conversation with Bays
today too. Mm hmmmmm. Serial killer stuff. Yeah, they remember they
had the the bum killers too. They had the people going around killing all
the homeless people. And one of those was the guy was a guy that
I mentioned today, this guy Escobar. He was like, I think they're
deporting him. He killed five people, five homeless people. Yeah, in
La right, right, Well, Infidel just dropped me a let me switch
off my background here. Infidel just dropped me this one in the chat.
So we got a bit of a timeline here, clowns in America, clown
world, timeline of scares and sightings. And boy, this is an older
public he that says twenty sixteen that Jay was just talking about, right,
Okay, yeah, so twenty sixteen, right before it came out, just
like he was saying, it came out in twenty seventeen when the clowns began
to surface, many guests they might be part of a gorilla marketing campaign for
a horror movie. Now, after a summer of sightings, several clown related
threats, I almost said crown related threats. I think we have those two.
But we'll save that robberies and close encounters involving children have law enforcement and
communities across the country on edge. Some of the first clown sightings began back
in June and August of twenty sixteen, stretching from the Midwest to the east
coast through the south. In Wisconsin, Gags the Green Bay Clown gained virtual
viral status after grainy photos of a clown surface walking the streets under cover of
night. Speculation was that GAGS and other clown sightings might be related to viral
marketing campaigns for a movie, Haunted House or other entertainment product. Then clown
sightings took a scary turn. In late August, win authorities in South Carolina
began reports of a person dressed as a clown trying to lure children into the
woods. Deputies said they received several reports of suspicious characters dressed like clowns with
white face paint, who were flashing green lasers and enticing kids with large amounts
of money. Wow, money, huh Remember when it used to be candy?
I got a se note, kid, I got a ce note over
here. And then mid September, three children in Georgia told police about an
incident involving two adult men dressed as clowns. McDuffie County Deputies say Cameron Frale's
twelve and his little brother are walking to a bus stop after six am when
they were chased by men dotting all black clothing, clown masks and red wigs.
Uh, and it just it goes on. There's there's one in Pennsylvania,
there's Kentucky, Tennessee. I mean, geez, that's just you might
that's yeah, seriously be scared of clowns. I mean, wow, this
is like, I mean, I'm it's kind of like pathetic that this is
actually like making headlines because as far as I could tell from the article that
I read, this guy has done nothing other than dress up in weird shit
and make freaky faces at a camera and post it on his Facebook current.
But of course, you know, back in the day, there was that
serial killer that was probably the you know which today, Yeah, yeah,
Pogo, Pogo the Clown. There's a there's a photo. I know we've
talked about this, probably talked about this every time the clowns come up.
But there's a photo of John Wayne Gacy dressed as Pogo the Clown with U
was that Carter's wife? I think it was President Carter's wife standing there next
it is? Yeah, yeah, do you know anythink about that? What
was the origin of that? I mean, do you know why he was
there? I can't remember. It was like a party or something. Yeah,
he was involved in Democrat politics. He was like a party precinct precinct
leader. Right, yeah, he was like big into party politics and all
that stuff. Yep, you're right. Well, acts like quite a few
serkillers, man, Yeah, what's up with that? Man? I just
went blank, who's uh zach Efron when he was killing people? Buy?
I don't know the actual scuse. I know that I know the actors of
lam. Yeah. He was also a rising star in the GOP. So
yeah, that's that's what weird. Yeah. Well, and you guys were
talking about how Dahmer too, don't remember Dahmer had that thing about calling the
White House and he got the tour. Yeah, he talked to Mondale.
He got direct direct access to Mondale's office somehow, which people know. But
he served in uh, you know, the military, and got to a
certain point where and when they were investigating him in Germany for mergers of a
curve while he was stationed in Germany. A high ranking US military official shut
down that investigation. There's an actual cable about it, So yeah, interesting.
I would say one one element just speculating, I'm sorry to cut you
all off an means too, but one one idea is that aside from the
conspiracy element of it, which I do, I do think is relevant.
You know, politics, just like acting no offense b l A does attract
you know, the narcissistic psychopath right Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
I know that from experience. I know that. Wait, Basis is a
psychopath pretty much? Yeah? Hello Sidney Kevin. Kevin Spacey was the artistic
director of the of the parent theater of the My Drama School when I was
there, So we rest our case on the psychopath wandering Wolf. What about
you, man, what do you think about the reappearance here, I mean
not less, especially in the media. What do you think about the media
amp in this a little bit clown scares in America? Is it's just a
holiday phenomena for spooptober or is there something deeper going on? It does seem
like misdirection to me, Although I will say one thing is the only thing
about this clown. Thing that is frightening to me is the quality of the
mad's rhymes. I mean, have you have you read some of the stuff
that he said in the articles? I've got three really good ones here for
you. The police have been informed. Do you think I care? They'd
have to catch me first anyway, And yes, that's a Dare you know
how about this one? Well? Well, well I've made the news again.
Should I smile for the cameras with my hideous grin? I'll spare you
the rest of them. I think the clown needs to get a new agent.
I you see, this is misdirection. Although wasn't there a case of
a killer clown in Florida that earlier this year ended on a plea deal?
Do you guys know about that one? I know gypsy crusader who was dressed
as joker. That's sort of on the other side of things and was not
a killer. But that's the only want to know. Yeah, it was
another thing I found Sheila Keene Warren. Apparently, this woman dressed as a
clown, rocks up to sub woman's house with flowers in full clown regalia,
rings the doorbell, The woman opens the door, and then she shoots the
woman dead in front of her son. And this is a case that didn't
make the news. So I'm I'm now going down on this clown rabbit hole
to kind of see, okay, what else was going on around the time,
to see if I can prove the misdirection angle. Interesting. So this
one you're talking about here, Florida killer clown case closes after thirty three years.
Thirty three years okay, yeah, she look Warren pleads guilty to second
degree murder while claiming innocence and doorstep murder of husband's former wife. Wow,
that's crazy. So she was running free from nineteen ninety to twenty seventeen.
Am I reading that right? Wandering Wolf? Yeah that's my understanding as well.
Yes, wow, yeah. So apparently this phenomenon dates back before twenty
sixteen, although I do recall twenty sixteen there seemed to be a rash of
them, but that's because a lot of people were having ring cameras installed,
so they seem to be footage all over the place, including in my neck
of the woods, of clown's terrorizing neighborhoods. But nineteen ninety's the earliest instance
of this I've been able to find Yep, Yep, there you go.
In nineteen ninety, witnesses told investigators the two were having an affair, though
both denied it. Detective said costume shop employees identified Shila Keen Warren as the
woman who bought a clown suit a few days before the killing. One of
the two balloons, a silver one read quote, you're the greatest. We've
sold at only one store, a public supermarket near Keen Warren's home. Well,
it kind of makes you wonder, like this seems like it could have
been a pretty easy case to close, Like why it takes so long exactly?
And it's sort of when I found this article that kind of disproved the
threat that was going on in my mind, which is, so we live
in this age now of dopamine available all the time twenty four to seven,
because we've got these shots of glass in our hands, and so I was
thinking, Okay, is this just the rationals I might say, irrational extension
of us not getting the dopamine fixation from engaging with devices anymore, and now
it has to go out into the streets, into meat space in order for
people to get that dopamine hit. But then I saw this nineteen ninety instance,
and I began to question that. Yeah, understandable. Well, that's
why it's worth peeling the layers back and looking at the timeline. Zooming out
on the timeline a little bit infidel. What about you? Any anything else
you want to throw out there on this one? No, no, truly,
all right, it's uh, we'll see what comes out of it.
It's Halloween season, so yeah, it's it's it's we're just hours away from
Friday the thirteenth minutes. I guess for you. Huh, there's one more
clown. I don't know if he's killed anybody, but he's like the most
successful bank robber in US history, the Too Tall Bandit, the too no
no tell us. I put a link. I put a link right there
in our chat. He's on the FED watch list and he's We've robbed many
mini banks all over the country. He's six foot eight and he wears I
think there's a picture of him in the article wearing a sort of a mutant
clown mask. He's always masked like a different thing. He's six foot eight.
Yeah, that's a giant dude, that's not yeow. Yeah, he's
the two he's the too tall bandit when you see his when you see his
mask, it's it's pretty Friday and he hasn't been caught. I don't think
I thought you're gonna see Biden first. Now, I'm dude, did the
city see exactly the same thing? When he's like, old clown that's stealing?
I'm like, oh, yeah, it took all Biden. Now,
don't think it was called neffort. What are those big creatures called neffort?
It's sort of a skull skeleton. He's worn a clown mask before, not
in that picture, I guess, But wow, it's more of a grim
reaper type, I guess. But I want to know how he come on?
How many yeah, how many six foot eight people are out there?
Right? Come on? I mean you would think like going back into his
neighbor's house in the neighborhood, right, and he's six foot eight and he's
like, I'm just carrying my grim raper clown mask. How you doing?
Somebody would recognize him, but I guess probably the people he associates with their
like, I ain't snitching. Fuck, no, you see ruckus? What
about you? You stand with the clowns? Or no? Uh, maybe
there might be something to this phenomenon esoterically speaking, I did a little research
into this. Are you all familiar with sacred clowns? Perhaps maybe Kay in
the Cloud? So apparently thing, yeah there love that one. Their paradigm
shifters apparently in some cultures historically speaking, if that's a good way to describe
it. But I did find this one piece on here where they talk about
it. Uh. They brought up there's something called the Nieweki, who are
mud eaters, who were the Zuni equivalent of a sacred clown. Cherokee had
sacred clown known as boogers, I'm not making this up, who performed booger
dances around community fire. In Tibetan Buddhimism. Buddhism they have something similar called
crazy wisdom, where the guru adopts this crazy clown character, you know,
personality in order to shock their students out of fixed cultural and psychological patterns.
Then they say here that the most popular type of a sacred clown is the
Lakota equivalent called the Hioka, a contrary thunder shaman who talked through backwards humor.
But they did point out what I wanted to share with you guys,
is that almost all types of sacred clowns combined trickster spirit with shamanic wisdom to
create a kind of sacred to tomfoolery that keeps the zeitgeist in check. Their
methods are unconventional and typically antithetical to the status quo, but extremely effective.
So the idea is that these things appear and are used to try to wake
everybody up and slap them across the face before it's too late. And considering
the state of the world currently, maybe it's not by accident that we're starting
to see some of them manifest in society. Just a suggestion. Yeah,
the Commedia del arte archetype, the harlequin our li queen, now he does
that. He functions as that and Renaissance Italian theater the fool in king Leir
are sort ofunctions is. I mean, he's not a killer, but he
functions as the person who was supposed to wake up, wake up the kingler's
status quo. He's a wise fool, he's a sophomore. He speaks the
truth while the others become clowns. So he reverses the societal roles. Interesting,
well, send in the clowns. I guess the timing couldn't be better,
right, Yeah, well, okay, well we'll leave that one there
unless anyone else wants to throw anything in on that, going once, going
twice. Yeah, kick the clowns out. All right, We're done,
hopefully, and now we can talk about all the other clowns, the politicians,
the bankers, the warmongers. My goodness, Where to begin? Now,
let's go back to the other clowns there. Yeah, no, I
prefer pennywise to our politicians, that's for sure. Well, where do you
guys want to start? I'm I'm I don't even know. We've got a
lot going on. We just lost someone who we lose It's okay, all
right, I'll say I'm gonna I'm probably gonna jump out before we get too
deep into something. Well, okay, if you got to go, is
there anything else you want to bring up tonight? Grunt? Really, I
mean, the the fucking elephant in the room is We've all been talking about
it. We've all been going across Twitter with it or X or whatever their
lame shit is called. Now. I mean, there's been a lot of
threats about tomorrow. I don't think I'm not sure that many of them are
quality threats. I guess you could say, but well, no, it's
that would be that would be a rabbit hole that's too deep to uh doing
anything other than of sticks hour podcasts. Well, I'll ask you real briefly
here, Grunt, then just a quick one on that. Do you think
the most likely thing is that tomorrow will be a normal day here in the
United States as always, and everybody who was running around like chicken little will
now have a lot of people go and see you're crazy. You are an
absolute MAGA influenced, weirdo conservative crazy person. Do you think that's maybe what
it's going to be tomorrow? I am. I am fifty to fifty on
this. I'm on the fence only because of our borders being as open as
they are and the amount of people that we have caught on the Tarror watch
list. It's a fifty to fifty shot. I don't think that this terrorist
group is you know, fucking around, so to speak. But at the
same time, I feel like we with the amount of spying and all that
that happens, something tells me that we would know if there was a serious
threat. But then are they telling us if there is a serious threat?
I don't know. There's just there's not there's not enough legitimate information out there
that we can really sink our teeth into to say one word or the other.
But I'm fifty to fifty. I think tomorrow is going to be interesting.
I know that the NYPD basically recalled everybody, no matter where they were
at or what they were doing, to come in, So it's gonna be
Tomorrow's gonna be interesting. I think there's gonna be definitely some lone wolf,
little mini attacks, people just trying to be taking advantage of the media coverage.
But I don't think there's going to be anything super big. All right,
Well, if there was, we wouldn't be surprised regardless of what has
gone on in the Middle East this week with this many people flooding over the
border. We've all been talking about it for a long time. But uh
yeah, remains to be seen. Mm hmm yeah. All right, Well,
uh do you need to punch out? Are you gonna hang for a
bit? I'm I'm hang out for a lot, all right? Cool?
Cool, all right, let me ask uh Jay Jay, what do you
think about this man? I'm finding you know, I heard Patrick talking this
morning and him and it was either him and Christian or him and Basil.
We're making a good point that we've got all these you know, quote unquote
conservative influencers now who have monetized Twitter accounts, who make money, uh when
they tweet out the fear porny sort of stuff. You know. So like
MTG, for example, is banking in some cash every time she tweets something
uh you know, watch out for the terrorists sort of tweets that you've been
seeing her do. What do you think about that? Factors like incentivizing people
to participate, Well, I think the right wants to be ready for anything
that happens, to be able to jump on that and say see we told
you yeah, and look at you know, look at how Biden failed.
So that's the motivations for them. I can tell you that Twitter does not
pay very well when you monetize it. So I've monetized my Twitter. I
got paid one hundred dollars the first month, and I think I made fifty
dollars the next month. So and those were months where actually I had quite
a few you know, I had videos that had like two hundred thousand views
somewhere in there. So that doesn't pay that that much. But again,
maybe if she's getting you know, ten million impressions, she's making a few
few thousand dollars. I don't know, but I would say that anything that
happens tomorrow was let they let it happen. So it plays into the overall
strategy of tension that they want to go with. Perhaps big events could marshal
more support for Israel versus whatever's going to happen in the Middle East, and
then that could lead to, you know, up time to finally do something
with Iran. I mean, who knows, it might blow up into something
big. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bomber Ran
people are certainly excited right now. Infidel What about you, man, what
do you what do you think about the threats of Jihati's cells waking up in
Europe and the United States tomorrow Friday the thirteenth. You mean, does you
is that our CIA funded? Yeah? Those ones boom, I mean Hamaz
that actually Israeli's and the CIA founded. Yeah, as Ron Paul famously said,
years ago, Yeah, I don't know, man, I think it's
uh, it's getting old. I would say, I don't think we need
terrorists really to threaten America or right now, our own politicians destroying America from
within. Was their open borders, right whether it was coming from the southern
border, or or terrorists from Afghanistan and flooding the country, or or they
are illegals from Honduras, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day,
you have millions of people that are just flooding the country and they're going
to create because one haveocurse the other right one way or the other right.
So, but there's definitely I would say, there's a lot of hypes right
now, and then everybody is seeing it. And it's interesting, you know,
because I'm coming from a from a different background, right because because I
am you know, I used to be Muslim, right now I'm an Infidel,
right but uh, you know, and I'm actually very outspoken against Hamas
for a long time because they are actually cause a lot of issues and terrorist
acts in Egypt. In twenty eleven when the US was was was doing this
color revolution in the Middle East, they were actually using the Muslim Brotherhood and
their arm and in Palestine, which is Hamas really to cause a lot of
havoc. And then they cause a lot of terrorist acts in Sinai and Irish
like and in mid like eleven, twenty fifteen, twenty thirteen were able to
you know, the Army intervened pretty heavily really to to put them down.
But back to your point, because I don't want to derail out. There
is more to say there, but there is a lot of fear mongering,
and I think they will they will try to use any excuse right now to
start stupid war right which is, I have no idea anybody with any brain
sell that think that US or even the Western countries combined can actually get an
a World War three. Again, it's the East right now, Russia,
China, Iran and can win. It's stupid, not in the state where
we are right now. So I think we did. My tweet, my
last tweet today was like, I think we need to shut down our borders,
we need to deport our illegals, and we need to focus on our
economy and building ourself back and then now we can think again about the world.
Other than that, just shut the fuck up. And that's my that's
my two cents on that. Yeah, I mean, if there's one thing
that is very obvious, the rhetoric that we're getting from both of the power
politics sides and all the mainstream media is one of get ready for, get
ready to have to accept ethnic cleansing, war, battle fear, you know,
invasion, sleeper cells. And this is on top of get ready for
you know, pandemics, financial collapses, famines, supply chain problems, and
culture wars and you know, race wars right here in the United States,
which is also unnecessary, also driven by those that want to do the fundamental
change here. And I just can't believe it, man, I cannot believe
that we're literally as a nation experiencing long term chemical warfare. We've got over
one hundred thousand people that have died from fentanyl here because of that open border.
And you think about that number, you know, any number of people
being poisoned, killed, bombed, or whatever. Oh, ruckus, that's
pretty cool. Is horrible, but hundred thousand Americans and you know, it's
just like this little conservative talking point ruckus that is awesome. Yeah, And
it is really interesting to see, you know, those people that keep preaching
America first, America first, America first, and oh it's not fun.
The Ukraine and everybody was against Ukraine and now just just see flash Israel and
everybody's just running and and and lo, let's let's give them money, like
like, you know, Israel first, not America first. I'm sorry it
applies. We don't have eight billion dollars to give to anybody right now.
Yeah, because it's not it's not it's not America or it's not Americans first,
it's America. America's like, at least the way I see it that
America is is the politicians and the the fucking rich liberal retards that spend the
money and trade the money and you know, do all the the illegal ship.
But they're not. You know, it's kind of like we've talked about
before where they're like, you know, sixty percent of Republicans disagree with this,
Like when the fuck did you ask me? You know, like,
it's it's not, it's it's not They're not focused on the American people.
They're focused online in their fucking pockets under the name of America. Yeah,
yeah, which America about which whichever they all caps because it's corporation, whichever,
whichever one makes them the most fucking money. Can I also like say
something, we should ban anybody from entering Congress if they have dual citizenship.
Uh yeah, that's that's yeah. We could do that. We could put
a cap on lobbying, we could put a cap on their wall street capabilities.
I mean, we've talked about this before. It's just amazing that some
of these people have, you know, one hundred million dollars stock profiles,
or in the case of New Jersey senator lined all the suits with one hundred
dollars bills and silver bars and new Peloton exercise bikes. Listen, yeah,
sure did you guys? Have you all ever taken one of those tests back
in the day that they would make you take before you get a job.
It was we used to have to do it over the phone, actually,
if I'm not mistaken, but sometimes it's a written test or might have been
an online thing where it was like they would give you these scenarios. It
was like a more morality test in a way. I don't know what the
official name for this was, but like, like, do you agree with
this statement or do you how do you strongly agree or strongly disagree with this
statement? Susie thinks it's okay to steal? Do you agree or disagree?
And you're like what and based on the way you would answer those questions.
They were creating a psychological profile to determine whether or not you would steal from
the company that you were working for, is the gist of it. But
how come we don't do such a thing for our damn politicians? Like,
at what point do they have to pass some sort of like sniff test for
corruption or giving a shit about their constituents. No, it's just it's all
about votes, you know what I mean. It's it's the most ridiculous process
known to man, in my opinion. But their test is the skull and
Bones ritual at Yale acceptance for the opposite. Yeah, Well, if there
are laws about foreign you know, against foreign espionage, why doesn't dual citizenship
qualify as something you know, associated with that? I mean, are there
there There must be I guess, plausible situations or excuses or you know,
reasons why people have a dual citizenship that exclude them from being subject to foreign
espionage. But it seems like there would be more scrutiny with that ship right
right, Like today we spoke with with George Papadopoulos's wife. Her name is
Simona, and she was really interesting, nice Galt. She ran, well,
you know, obviously there's all the stuff that happened with Papadopolis and there
was some weird intelligent snaffoos there they brought him. You know, that's a
whole rabbit hole there. But she has been notified that she might have to
use the FARA Act, the Foreign Agent Registration Act, something to do with
her campaign, like she had a campaign in Italy, and it's just really
weird because she was saying that there's only three other Italians that have had to
register with the FARA and you know, she feels pretty much like they're they're
doing that to her because she's you know, been and made a political enemy
and now she you know, tells her story and speaks out against these things
and you know, tries to you know, had a campaign in another country.
But it's like you look at Capitol Hill and it's like there's a lot
of dual citizens up here, a lot of them that are not registered with
that. So it's like, what the hell, you know, another sort
of weaponized aspect of the government. Perhaps they're so it's fine for everybody that's
a dual citizen of israel I guess, and most of the people that are
dual citizens of Italy but not her. Yeah, I mean, that's that's
what we found out right. It's a it's a system that allows for those
who serve the system to do whatever the hell they want. And if if
you're labeled again as a system, they're going to find the tiny saying and
then there we'll go after you. Yeah, man, Yeah, I just
know the neocons have come out like blasting, dude. And and you know,
just from getting in the car and driving to work and turning on the
local AM radio. I mean it's and then driving home to it just like
for five minutes. It's insane. Yeah, it's you know, it's total
Big nine. You knew right away when the stuf happen, you knew it
would be Big nine terminology, you know, but it was it's failure of
intelligence. How can anybody ask for evidence of these war crimes? What are
you some kind of sick person? You're asking for evidence? Is what the
ladies said today on the radio. I mean, and I think it's amazing.
It's also amazing for just to you know, to think about the fact
that there are people who don't remember this from the last time, that it's
the same same, exact sort of terminology and diction that they use, and
then it was definitely a heavy flex to send that aircraft carrier over there.
It's useless, right, right. But I just figure it's like that combined
with the seven you know, the immediate seven billion dollars that they sent in,
you know, when you compare that with the seven hundred dollars to the
American families in Hawaii, right, which you guys sort of just mentioned.
But I also tend to think that, you know that the it's so hard
to predict the time the time scale for these sorts of things. It's like,
oh, well, for it's Friday the thirteenth, you know, or
tomorrow's you know, March twenty you know, if it's March twenty second,
you know it's three twenty two, the big thing's going to happen, you
know, But it never seems to occur on the timescale that we think it's
gonna happen. So World War three, yeah, I don't know. I
don't know. You're right though, dude. I mean, if you look
at Beck or Hannity or any of those those names, I mean, Tucker
Carlson was on with Vivaik and uh, what's his face Daily Color Shapiro,
and Shapiro had a mini fit like he had a full on. Shapiro's had
multiple mini fits in I think he's not going to make it through this,
dude. He's having Wobbler's right, vain is going to burst and he's just
he's done, bro. Yeah, and he's mad because other people aren't being
as warhawkish as him. Other people are not as upset as him. So
it's just like, I mean, he it's almost a that's kind of a
leftist attribute, wouldn't you say, Jay to be like, you know,
silence is violence or you know, the wrong words or violence. Like it's
just it's almost I don't know, it's almost inverted. It's facts and logic,
man, it's just straight but no emotions, right, straight fac logic,
journalism and that's his thing, facts of logic, remember, right,
Yeah? Yeah, pull that tweet hashat if you have a second. So
he got owned by community notes. You're muted, We can't hear you.
Sorry, I'm gonna put it on screen and you can tell us what's going
on here. Give me a second. I'm gonna juggle my virtual background,
all right, uh boom, there you go. And yeah, so who's
going around about that talking about that forty four babies, right, And then
he posts this as an evidence, and then basically he got on by community
notes this is an AI generated image. Oh my gosh, it's about as
good as the Mexican ET. I'll say that. So his his yeah is
ah, wait, you think that et is not real? Maybe that's a
big reveal tomorrow. I think we can all agree that the Mexican ets at
least were not AI. Right, that's true. If the ET was part
of Hamas and he's sneaking in, he's impiltrating, you might be onto something
there. So for you out there listening, Ben Shapiro, here's what it
says. You want to says terror, extra terrorrestrial, extra terror. Rest.
So Shapiro tweets out you wanted pictorial proof of dead Jewish babies. Here
it is you, pathetic jew haters. Israel will minimize civilian casualties, but
Israel will not allow the pieces of human shit who did this to live.
Every ounce of blood spilled in Gaza is on hummas, okay. And then
readers add context here, I do love this part about x H. This
photo is AI generated. Uploading the image to GA n detector site AI or
not dot com proves the verdict. You can also look at the telltale signs,
such as the distorted fingers, which is a usual indicator. And yeah,
we've pointed that out before. We're looking at AI. Come on,
man, come on, man, come on man, Can I just go
ahead and say the obvious thing? Like I know that guy, He's like,
he did he did this in response to all the people who are demanding
the evidence. He's like, here you go, you you jew haters or
whatever he says. And I'm like, you're the one who seems like more
interested in finding proof to back up your claim than the people demanding it.
Brother, So yeah, calm down. Yeah, And he came was what's
the other guy at the the senta of the vague? Oh yeah, you
have. All of them are coming together now like a hole in chill on.
Yeah, And isn't it funny? Wondering? Well, if I'll ask
you this one, isn't it funny? How? It's like I keep thinking
about this And I'm sorry, if you've been listening to me on TNT's gonna
be repeating myself a little bit today. But I keep thinking about that Overton
Windows shift. We were talking about you and I s book about this earlier
today where it's like, okay, Grunt, I know you gotta go,
man, good night, thanks for being here tonight, dude. Oh absolutely,
guys. Sorry that uh it's a little it's a little slow going,
but I'm still get my ass take by this job. So hey, man,
get some rest, get out there, have a good have a good
day tomorrow, and keep us safe from all those those terror cells coming over
the southern border. Man. Don't worry. I've got plenty of things.
Oh no, wait, I lost those in a boating accident. Right,
yeah, I'm I'm as defenseless as everybody else. Yeah right, okay,
all right, guys' peace out, Grunt alright, guys later, all right,
there goes Grunt, so wondering what I was about to say. Is
it was like, remember when it was not okay for us to be anti
vaxers, anti this, anti that, not okay for us to make cultural
commentary on Trump Russia, not okay for us to make commentary on lgbtq A
eight issues, all these things. And then somehow the conservative influencers all caught
up and realized we were talking about the stuff that was actually going to change
our society or it just became okay for whatever. You know, Media mogul
blessed these topics to be brought up and now, but now the new one
is going to be this. They're talking about shutting people down for wrong think
that. We've got these new digital media acts coming out of Canada, out
of EU, out of Australia, New Zealand. They tried to do one
here. They're trying again with various methodologies to get their disinformation board functionality up.
They're talking about clamping down on x dot com for people not talking about
this topic right, this is this is uh and and it's like all the
people that were late to the game saying, you know what, you lied
to us about COVID, You'll lie to us about the VAS, You'll lie
to us about A, B, C and D all the way back to
whatever, and all of a sudden, it's like they just all believe all
the media. All of a sudden, they believe all the intelligence agency talking
points. You know. And I'm not trying it again. I hate having
a caveat this all the time. I'm sick of it. But I'm not
trying to say everything's fake. But at the same time, these people are
not able to recognize the war machine and the propaganda machine when it spins up
and hold any sort of forbearance of judgment and decision. Yeah, I'm right
there with you. I mean, it's interesting. I always have to catch
myself in these instances where I want to look at the artifice of things,
and certainly not everything is fake, but enough of it is that it's difficult
to know where exactly you delineate. And as I've kind of I've really made
a point to hang back and watch all this unfold and just focus on maintaining
my grounding insanity wherever possible, I refuse to take a side, because I'm
just trying to analyze the information as it's coming in, and I'm watching both
sides converge in the degree to which they're fractured and into the degree to which
there's this reactivity. Pick a side, declare your side, Declare exactly where
you stand on issue X, Y or Z, the current thing, whatever
it is. And I count say that I'm at all surprised because I think
that this is the end point of media. I think that this has become
such a pastiche of reactivity on all sides, that people have become conditioned to
react to whatever they're presented with and identify themselves as one or the other tribe,
and those of us who take a more measured approach and say, Okay,
I don't know what I think about this yet where I stand because I
need more data. Right, we are really the odd men and women out
here because we're actually trying to analyze and understand exactly what's going on in the
environment. Now. What's interesting to me about all this as well is that,
you know, I'm looking at a lot of articles trying to get some
information about what they're predicting might happen tomorrow. And one thing that has come
up multiple times is law enforcement in Idaho, Montana, and Utah working together
specifically on alert. They seem to be particularly hypervigilant about things that might take
place on Friday the thirteenth. And I remember the last time we kind of
talked about all of this chaos, the open border situation, everything going on,
I made the comment that this seems like the perfect conditions for some kind
of false flag because we're seeing chaos everywhere. So I'm starting to wonder with
both sides clamoring to identify with hypervigilance around this issue. Are they setting up
the conditions for some kind of event that will then be used as casas belly
for some police action on the part of the United States and the Middle East.
That's what I'm looking for now, all right, Well, building on
that, and then we'll go around the room on this one. One of
the things that many people are concerned about, and I'd be lying if a
side. It hadn't crossed my mind too before I started hearing a lot of
other people bringing it up. Is this idea of calling off the election,
the twenty twenty four election, using something a scenario like you just laid out
as a premise to call martial law, call off the twenty twenty four election,
and then boom the Democrat, the so called Democrat Party. I'm just
going to say, the uniparty, the current uniparty off. Both sides have
power until this is done, resolved, whatever whatever comes on the other side
of it. I mean, what do you think about that? I mean
to me, if that's the case, if that's really a plan that we
should be concerned about. It seems like Friday the thirteenth tomorrow or tonight,
almost in four minutes. If you're a Jay and Jamie or Infidel or based,
it seems a little unlikely because we still have you know, a number
of months, or you know, does it just get bad? You know?
Okay, first off, do you think that's possible? Do you think
that could be a thing that you know should be looked at in that scenario,
I, for one, do, I absolutely think it's possible. I
think that given the degree of chaos that we're seeing and the degree of chaos
that's been predicted, I think that there's a likelihood of something like that occurring.
I also think it's something that they would have to build up to so
that they would have to be a chain of incidents that create the sense of
desperation that gets people to clamor for that moment of apotheosis. Right, something
must be done. We need a mandate. So I don't think it's going
to be an isolated incident. I think it'll be a series of incidents that
seems so unprecedented and so improbable, maybe even impossible, that it gets the
people on both sides to say, suspend everything because we need a sense of
safety. Again, it's just like the like we've talked about from the standpoint
of how mass shootings are reported on. I think it's the exact same chain
of understanding. Yeah yeah, Jay, what about you? What do you
think about that scenario there? This whole suspend the election blah blah blah.
I think that's something we're up against. Well, I've been hearing that since
probably the Obama election. The first time I remember, Oh, they're going
to suspend the elections and blah blah blah. So this is this is every
election cycle you hear this, there's going to be emergency martial law. However,
if there's ever been a time where I think it's actually possible and likely,
it's now. Yeah. Yeah, I think anything goes. I agree
with Tucker that the next twelve months are going to be insane. Probably.
I've gotten to be not best friends, but good good at least regular communicator
with Colonel McGregor's son, Cameron McGregor. He's a really good I can nomics
and geopolitical analyst. He mainly focuses on economics, and he has a really
good track record, and he thinks there's going to be like like Biden won't
be there much longer, and there's going to be like big economic problems,
so so it may shift over into economy and not war, or they may
ramp up war to distract from the economy. But yeah, I think they
you know, the Integrity League said that at all costs, Trump cannot be
president again. And that doesn't mean because I'm I think that Trump is like
I'm not a huge you know, like if Trump's going, I'm not a
big maga person. But that is what was in the Integrity Leagues. Do
anything to prevent Trump? Do you remember that? Like it says that we
can't we we the global eleague can't survive another Trump election? Right, Well,
I agree with you. If ever, we have been told that one
for many many cycles now, and but if ever it did seem more plausible.
Yeah, now seems to be the time. What do you think,
Infidel about the election canceling elections? Yeah, this idea of like having you
know, terrorist attacks here in the United States and using that as a premise
to call martial law, cancel elections, that sort of stuff. Yeah,
I mean again, I heard that floating a few times. I think they
will try to do all kind of shenanigans. Really to either like divert that
election, right, something that happened to get everybody to vote by mail again
to insure that another twenty twenty happen, right, or for me, that's
more realistic scenarios and than actually canceling the election. But I think we're heading
very soon actually to more dangerous scenario. I know, I which movies the
pers the beginning, you know, I don't know if you so that one
the beginning one right of that fit to fail party system, and then basically
you have that new founding father party that comes up. So I think people
are feeling that and actually we're heading to that direction pretty soon with with with
the lawlessness in the in the country, the economical collapse that that we're about
to see we're about to witness, uh, which actually will be more of
a if they do anything, will be more divergence from the economical collapse and
actually the collapse of our dollar values that we're about to see and hit us.
I think that that's more of a global catastrophe happen around that actually to
divert use more than just elections. But that scenario of that purge the beginning
hits me more than anything I don't know why. Uh. Jethrow in the
chat says, why cancel the election when you have mastered the art of getting
the outcome you choose? That is a very very good question worth considering their
Jethro. They have this down to a science. Now we've honed in on
how that all works. It's a giant network of corruption and partisans in the
legal system, in the in the judicial system, judges, das, county
recorders, secretaries of state, and a few other positions that make these these
selections, these outcomes come out the way that they have been based. What
about you, man, what do you think. I think everything's on the
table. I mean, you know, three years ago the entire world shut
down everything everywhere, and so anything's possible. I think it's interesting in terms
of a terrorist attack. You know, I want peace and on earth and
goodwill towards men. But I think if in terms of a terrorist attack,
it's interesting. We just had the you know, the emergency testing and all
this stuff, and I a cyber polygon is in the back of my mind
with all this stuff, and I wonder what sort of you know, terrorist
attack it would be probably I'm guessing probably not a large scale Big nine type
event, but some sort of you know, localized attack on the on the
infrastructure, on the power grid where people are at a loss, you know,
and don't know if anything towards canceling, you know, talking about canceling
elections because there's no communication, everything's chaotic. Combined with the economic crash or
leading to an economic crash, it seems like that would be completely on the
table. So yeah, yeah, and hopefully not. Yeah, yeah,
what do you well, you know, it's like food, energy, finance,
what else, culture, gasoline. Yeah, all that stuff is like
in the balance, the combined with before all the combined with an absolute attack
on morale, you know, anesthetic terrorism in every possible area. Uh,
the complete demoralization of the United States at the very least or uh people.
You know, it's like with the clowns, you know, clown it's it's
total that led into complete clown world, right, Uh, the apotheosis of
clown world, which just seems too We've had a little bit of a lull
and now Ukraine, you know, the Ukraine thing is like almost completely evaporated
in the media, and now it's shifted over to the place where it always
goes over which is which will come back home hopefully not but hmm yeah,
yeah, and just quickly Heshi, I mean, I wanted to kind of
bring this back around because it's been a while since we talked about it.
The last time we talked about this, you know, it was in the
context of the daily shooter events that we've covered for years. But as I
was watching how this propaganda is deployed, I kind of theoretically developed some stages,
and I've been applying this as a rubric to all of this reporting that's
gone on over the past three four days, and I thought it might be
good time to bring it back because I think it still applies. So you
have an incident that occurs, and immediately after that, the next stage culturally
is the performative outrage. So we see this voyeuristic display of pure emotion.
There's no logical analysis of the event. People take signs, battle lines are
drawn, and then we go to the next stage, which is reckoning.
In repetition, there's an obfuscation of facts, usually due to an abundance of
information, but not necessarily Conflicting accounts seem to disappear as the information is coalesced
into the next stage. This singularity, which is when you get a unified
narrative of the occurrence that everyone is pressured to agree to. After that they
move into the next stage, which is the revelation. So there's usually an
unmasking that occurs. Known wolves are identified and called out, and everyone is
invited to reference those known wolves everywhere around them. And then the next stage
being the apotheosis, which is when the narrative that's been unified about Incident X
gains pre eminence and glorification and it becomes sacred religious and anytime people refer to
it, there's this cultural unified understanding of the event what it means, and
there's a whole canon of horrors that are attached to it, everyone knows.
And then that leads to the final stage, which is the mandate, this
idea that something must be done and people will sacrifice anything to have that sacred
call to action answered. Rinson repeat yeah. And with regard to some of
these calls to action, Ruckus has put in a couple of reminders in our
private chat over here about exactly that those sort of reactions that we are as
free people, free liberty loving people a little bit concerned about and they're happening
in places like UK, Germany, this sort of thing, but you know,
I mean it's bad so Germany talking about arresting people for desecrating Jewish flag,
BBC in trouble for not calling Hamas terrorists properly, and sky News taking
a lot of flak because they seem to be one of the few that are
willing to push back in the media there, and all this in the environment
where they're trying to bring in extra hate speech laws, extra regulation. Look
at the bill in Canada in particular that we've been looking at for the last
few months. That's going to make people. I don't know what the exact
stipulations in it are, but it's like, you know, if you have
more than a thousand followers, you have to have the Canadian equivalent of an
FCC license to have a podcast or a YouTube channel or this kind of stuff.
And then there's all this gray area about well, wait a minute,
the Internet is worldwide. What happens when you start taking entire continents and removing
inherent rights that people in other countries have While you know, these our own
governments working to create disinformation boards and using its intel services and federal law enforcement
and political agencies to tell social media platforms who to censor. So that's extremely
disturbing. What's a Jewish flag? What do you mean, like, what's
a Jewish is it you're talking about the Israeli flag? Yeah? Sorry,
is it called a Jewish flag? Now? I don't know. Yeah,
the Israeli flag. But it's funny that you bring it up because it's one
of the only flags I know that has a religious symbol on it. That's
that's an interesting, uh sort of side note. Yeah, that's that's why,
like again, tying anti Semitism was was was Zionism is just ridiculous.
Mmmmmm, I have to bring that narrative. Yeah, the flag of Scotland
is a Christian flag. There you go, all right, Andrew, there
you go, Irish flag, a cross of Saint Patrick. Okay, one
thing just kind of a stretch, but to put it in context, I
mean reading I just finished reading War of the Worlds, and it's interesting that
one thing that Wells brings up in the book is the response to invasion.
I mean, the book is written kind of when we're sort of at the
at the beginning of the modernist era, and you know, the climax of
colonialism, and the one thing that the English didn't fear was invasion, you
know. And so one thing that is interesting in the book is the response
to the invasion, because he makes like a quarter of the book throughout the
book is descriptions. Is a description in various places of like this juxtaposition,
juxtaposition between like the pastoral landscape and the death clouds that occur. And he's
constantly making reference to these things. He's like, I'm looking out the window
and I see the idyllic landscape of you know, the Cotswolds, and then
on the right, I look and here come the death rays of the alien
invasion. So the alien is like the other right coming in. I mean,
he's literally talking about aliens in the book, but it's a you know,
it's figurative. It can be figured. There's a figurative meaning as well.
But the response is like they fit. The response fits into like a
few different categories. One is that people are completely caught off guard and they
don't want to believe what's happening. And the other is that people go crazy
and they loot and pillage and rob and there's drunkards in all the villages and
people are sort of going insane. And the other is that there's a military
response, right, but people are they're they're shelling the alien crafts and they
could you know, and the cylinders, the falling stars, the cylinders,
but they like, people are watching this happen, but they're still they won't
believe that it's happening. So he has to, like it's this psychic break
that occurs in the speaker where he's trying to he's trying to like delineate between
things, and when he comes across people, he has to keep his logic.
And I think that that's interesting in light of you know, orson Wells
is broadcast, right, which was time and with intelligence and the sort of
test of how people would deal with a quick invasion or a quick event.
And I think that it speaks volumes for if something were to happen. I
mean, we've seen this already now, but it was sort of also over
a progression of time. But if it were to happen quickly, I think
it would probably mirror that perfectly. And these are called shocks, right,
there are future shocks that Tavistok studied and talked about, and in fact,
the Hadley Cantrell that did the Invaders from Mars was working in the Princeton Research
Project to study that very event as part of a Rockefeller funded study. So
that was a study in terror basically, and so future shocks, which can
be culture shocks or actual terror shocks, are all part of that maladaptive process
which Tavistock has mastered. So that's the purpose of those big shock events.
And you're absolutely right to compare it to the War of the World's broadcast psyop
and that's why they will probably continue to rely on, you know, terror
Allah Gladios to elements, mm hmmm, yeah, yeah. And I was
at ruckus. Do you want to jump in there? You're all got your
camera all set. It looks good now, tripod And the funniest thing was,
as I was pulling out the tripod, in my mind even before bas
was talking about the unlike, this reminds me of the War of the World's
uh spacecraft. Very weird. That's what it looks like too. It's creeping
me out, uh because it's got like this camera. You guys would have
to see this. The camera is really tiny, so the whole thing looks
very bizarre. There you go or the world's love it. I'm very concerned
with the narratives on this one and where they're going to take it, because
I don't think they're, for lack of a better word, I don't think
they're fucking around this time. And by day, I don't mean Hamas,
I mean the powers that be. I think that they've they we're well past
the point now thanks to the COVID bullshit, where they're going to be like,
oh, we're going to subtly project our punches and only the people who
are paying attention they're going to get it. No, they have literally been
telling us in our faces, no questions asked about what's happening and what's going
to go down. I mean, I don't know if you all noticed,
but we've moved from the subtleties to hey, we're just going to tell you
now, and if you're too stupid to even hear us telling you to your
face, then you literally deserve what's about to happen to you. They've already
come out and invoked nine to eleven one hundred times sideways till Sunday over this
event. They said, this is our nine to eleven is what Israel said.
This makes nine to eleven. This is ten times worse, one hundred
times worse that they are telling us exactly. Yes, I hate to say
it, but I'm ninety nine point nine to nine percent sure some event will
take place tomorrow, if not multiple events, But I can't say how many.
I'm going to guess probably none are at organic. They will be false
flags. This is the moment, is ripe. This is what they're doing.
Then they're probably gonnaf and do it. They ain't mess it around anymore.
They're trying to throw Trump in prison. I mean, look what they're
speaking in prison and Trump. Look what they've gone to the jan six ers.
This lawfair crap. I don't care what you think about politics. This
is happening, you know what I mean. This is real. This is
scary shit going on right now. And then this in the middle of it.
And look how quickly and how hard we keep referring to this the forty
be headed children's stories being like the Incubator Baber. No, this is nothing
like the Incubator Baber story. Okay, this is that story alone is a
million times worse than the incubator story. As we didn't have the social media
when they did the incubator story. I remember the incubators. I remember kids
in my classroom crying who had to go home from school that day when we
heard that news and we were like an eighth ninth grade I can't remember what
it was. I mean that emotionally wrecked teenager's hearts and minds, people's mind
And that was before the Internet. That was before this three sixty five in
your face Twitter universe. I mean, people have been forced to watch graphic
images. We were just shown like allegedly a burnt baby. This is some
serious shit. They are not fucking around and they are going to do something.
They are gonna They would not throw that out there if they weren't ready
for whatever they're doing and what I think they're trying to do. Call me
crazy, Call me a conspiracy theorist, call me a Christian, but this
is biblical. There really are They really want to start some all out holy
war if if Israel over reacts the way that I suspect Israel is going to
react, that's the one I'm more afraid of than the terrorists, because let's
say there is a false flag. Now, they went over the hearts and
the minds of all the Western world and the military and the money. And
sorry, Zelinsky, you got to sit on the sidelines now. For sure,
they will cut him off. Mark my words, It's all going to
be Israel, Isral Israel. But I think Israel is gonna like a you
been saying, Hesher, They're gonna glass that place. I think they are
going to do something so horrendous to the people of Palestine that it is going
to spur a natural reaction from a huge portion, a huge, a large
population on this planet. I e. The Muslim Islamic religion. They are
they are you watch. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I
am. I think we really passed the point in no return on this one.
I hate to say it, but I gotta share that. Yeah.
No, if they if they wipe that piece of land off, I mean
no, why is no one? And it's like, is are all the
politicians so fucking stupid that they can't see down the road where It's like,
yeah, there's pretty much a political science theory here that if you do something
like that, you kill two point three million p people, fifty percent of
which are eighteen years old and under, who are living in those conditions,
it may have a unifying response from Iran, from other places, from the
entire Arab world, I mean, Infidel Maybe you could weigh in right here.
What do you think you know, I've never been there, but you
know a lot more about the region than I do. What do you think
would happen if like, what do you think would happen if you know,
if they just nuke the whole place or destroy the whole place. Uh yeah,
So a couple of things. Number one, what they are doing right
now and as by bombing is not targeted ouramas hamas a underground. Their weapons
is underground. They have shit ton of tunnels in the cities. And I
want to tell you that Israel will be scared to go into as was was
ground troops because they're gonna lose because basically, go in, you're gonna be
doing street fights that army is not equipped for that. They have few commandos
like teams maybe, but you get into like situations like this, your street
fight, they have like tunnels everywhere. Those are people like desparate and you
already prime them to to to just so, I don't think they're going to
go and ground. So we'll see how it goes. But their game has
always been like they want to push other and it's specifically Egypt that that's a
player they've been trying to play. And there's multiple deals that they tried to
do before. We're basically getting Egypt to give a piece of Sinai and basically
it's smallest trip where they basically can migrate all those Palestinians in there, right
and and and and then they can take the rest of the land from their
side. But I mean, Egypt is pretty firm right now, even from
opening any borders to US or any people to come in, So I don't
think they're planning on doing this anytime soon. It's definitely going to create more
hatred, you know, toward the Middle Eastern people. Right they say why
people in the Middle East hate Israel. It's really I don't think people hate
Israel or people hate Actually people don't hate Jewish people. People hate Zionism.
Right. They hate the idea of state that forced itself in there. Right
now, we accept that it exists right now in instead of working on a
solution that guarantees the existence of the original estate that they came in right now,
they want to just fully wipe it right, which which is not going
to guarantee anything. And at the end of the day, they are and
waged in this area and they don't have a way out, like like where
are they gonna go? Are they they cannot nuke anybody, right, because
they're gonna be nuking themselves, right. It's just such a small area.
And and again I doubt that it's gonna be World War three over this because
I don't think US can support, can can actually afford the World War three.
We're such an our military is such a bad shape right now, our
economy is in bad shape. The West is just lost so much that and
there's the support of the Ukrainian war right that I don't think we can afford
it. And what we did is we hardened a lot of those Middle Eastern
countries. We hardened Iran with the sanctions we did for Iran. Iran is
producing everything and all backfired. Every place we've done on Iran have so much
technology right now, and it's so advanced and it's all into Iran gives weapons
to Russia. Now. Yeah, So like that notion that that you seem
like like a freaking aircraft carrier to go on bomb errand that's stupid, especially
if it's in the the Mediterranean Sea, which is so far away from Iran.
Anyway, it's I don't know, but but but you know, it's
it's the gut reaction always is to support for past. And again I don't
I personally, you know, like I think Hamas has hurt those Palestinian more
than anything, right Uh it Actually they put them in place to to to
counter eggs a liftists and and and and the thought back in the days right
and and and you see big shift and even in the Israeli policies after this
nineties, right after Sabin and he they wanted to actually find the solution,
and then now we have like Nitan Yaho and and and and and and these
other people right now. Was also one thing I want to just I know
I'm jumping between topics, but there's a lot of turmoil that's happening in Israel.
So don't think that that is something like this, because number one question
is like how the hell and Moosa didn't know about that? Yeah, this
is hell, they didn't know about that. Let me three days before they
even warned them. Yeah there might be something. Let me don't forget your
path here. I want you to continue your thought, but I just want
to agree with you right there and say this, this is their nine to
eleven in the sense that it might be an inside job, and it is
their nine to eleven in the sense that it was we're to believe we have
to have belief and faith in government intelligence agencies and politicians telling us that this
was a massive intelligence failure. I'm sorry, I don't have the ability to
have that belief. Carry on, Infidel, No, And where did they
get their weapon? Did you really get it from it? On? So?
How did they bring it inside Gaza? Right? I actually believe that
they got weapon even from Israel itself, because especially with all those weapons coming
like us, they're finding it's US weapon. Either it was in Ukraine or
Afghanistan. How did they make it there? Right? So, But anyway,
so the point I was saying is there's a lot of turmoil inside Israel.
It said, yeah, I was under big pressure. Right, So,
I don't know what are the motivations for something like this, right,
whether to to to divert attention, whether to I didn't know what it is.
But but whatever the motivation for it, it's going to backfire. That
That's all what I can say right now. And it's actually, if anything,
it actually proved how weak the Israeli Army is and that fake image that
they were putting for this Iron dome, and it's failed from like freaking five
southern like rockets, right, got overwhelmed and I didn't function after a few
rockets, and and and then the army was some of the images, how
they surrendered it just the whole optics of its is bad. And I think
what's happening in Gaza right now is nothing more than saving face and just killing
as much Palastinia as possible for them to save face, right, But it's
not hurting Hams. Yeah you can't. I mean they told us we needed.
They gave us similar images of violence and against civilians and stuff in Iraq,
in Libya and in Syria, and then when it washes out. I
mean, Jay, think about how many Sunday wires we did between like twenty
fifteen and twenty eighteen regards to the events in Syria, breaking down the propaganda
in Syria, going so far as to send people we knew there, you
know, and then have them on ACR and report with them, right,
And twenty one wire and how many pieces of war propaganda we found. I
mean, just look at the case of the White Helmets. And I was
listening to patstee boy, yeah, Omron Dusty boy, right, all that
stuff by barrel bombs and all that stuff. Right, What's what's your question?
I mean my question is like, how can we drive it home that
we've been lied to over and over again and we've pointed out even to the
point in previous conflicts where we can point to a group like the White Helmets
who's providing all of our you know, the lion's share of the most inflammatory
audio and video and then narrative wrapped around it. And then knowing that that
was they were getting millions of dollars from from the US, from NGOs and
from government. And I was listening to Patrick talk today about this, and
I can't remember the name of the agency, but he's already like found the
analog to the White Helmets out there in Israel and they're known for you know,
similar operations. Right. Well, it's not surprising because you know,
this is how these kinds of conflicts are partitioned and maintained, and you know
there's a long history of As. I think Infidel was already discussing. You
know, Hamas comes out of the creation via British intelligences running of the Muslim
Brotherhood and then the CIA in Israel itself creating Hamas. In fact that I
found the twenty nineteen statement from Yahoo where he says that it is important to
support Hamas because Hamas is the thing that prevents a Palestinian state. I don't
know if you saw that quote. That's a pretty that's a pretty devastating quote
right there, because you know, kind of gives away what's going on here.
So, yeah, the intelligence failure is completely suspicious given the echoes of
nine to eleven. And I totally agree with that analysis. And that's you
know, part and parcel with how the the false flags and the fake news
are run, which again we've seen going all the way back to twenty fourteen
with the my don Ku and then twenty fifteen sixteen Syria. Absolutely. Yeah,
yeah, I just posted a link. Is this new just nineteen minutes
ago is Reel awards the war is the evacuation of one point one million people
from northern part of Gaza. Yeah, let me bring that one up here.
Hey, I'm gonna have to let you guys go. I'm I got
a super bad headache, so hey, thanks for having me. It was
a great chat tonight. Yeah, Jay, really appreciate you being here tonight,
man, missie, And hope everything is good when you wake up with
your brain hope it feels good. And uh yeah, well we'll do this
again real soon. Okay, Yeah, let's suit again next week. All
right, that week awesome? Yeah, I bet dein right later. All
right, you guys gonna talk to you Afidel and Bla and everybody else.
Good night, all right, Jay Dyer. Okay, punching out. Okay,
let's see, it is getting late. Don't let me keep anybody up
too late here. But yeah, let's uh, this is a little clunky
tonight because I have to turn off my virtual background to bring on my secondary
monitors. So I apologize for the grops and glitches there. But here we
go. Yeah, I guess beys, do you want to say it?
Breaking breaking news, folks, We have the documents here. Israel's military on
Friday directed the evacuation of Northern Gaza region that it's home to one point one
million people, about half of the territory's population. Within twenty four hours.
This is from October thirteenth, twelve or five am. This could signal an
impending ground offensive, though the Israeli military has night you confirmed such an appeal.
The order delivered to the UN comes is it ual presence and offensive against
Hamas militants. You and spokesman Stefan Dujarak called the order impossible without devastating humanitarian
consequences. Earlier, Israeli military pulverized the Gaza Strip with air strikes. Visit
by Anthony Blinkn along with some shipments of US weapons, offered a powerful green
light to Israel to drive ahead with its retaliation and gaze after Hamas' deadly attack
on civilians and soldiers. Israel's halted deliveries of basic necessities and electricity to Gaza's
two point three million people when prevented jury of supplies from Egypt. All right,
now there you go. Right after Friday, the turn the thirteenth begins.
Yeah, like right on Q where you were just literally talking about this,
right, not funny. I'm not laughing because it's funny. Yeah,
I know, it's it's laughing at the absurd world that we live in.
Yeah. The clownish factors. You know, it was the historical Friday the
thirteenth, that was on October as well, you know talking about the templars,
Ye, templars when they rounded them up. Yep, it was October.
I forget the year it was. It was October thirteenth. In the
twelve hundred is the destruction of the total destruction of the templars at the hands
of the Yeah, but I can't remember how how long it was in advance,
how many months or weeks that the king had sent out letters to all
the constables giving them the secret orders to arrest all these people on that day,
So everyone it was a plan ahead of time. They all had this
like sealed orders to do this thing on this day, thirteen fourteen. Grandmaster
Jacques de Malay I did a stream on this called Utremare, which is the
term for the Holy Land and during the crusades, Yeah, and the sea
and the seizing of all of their wealth. But yeah, you're right,
that was preceded by a long period of torture and confessions. Yeah, confessions
to that. I believe that the date holds some sort of significance with the
elite secret society types who definitely do have a hand in this. I keep
dropping about this in the chat, but I'll bring it up now on air
real quick. But it's actually something I learned from Bill Cooper back in the
day. There's also a pretty popular book about this where the guy at least
talks about it in this book as where it's well known for him because there's
dispute whether or not this thing is real. But the book was called Satan
Prince of This World by former naval officer William Guy Carr, and he quoted
in there or referred to and discussed an alleged letter written by none other than
Albert Pike, super freemason, you know, high degree, kind of a
kind of a big deal, kind of a Nazi kind of KKK guy too
and all that. But apparently he wrote a letter to an Italian politician by
the name of Giuseppe Mazzini. The letter was dated August fifteenth, eighteen seventy
one. In the letter so it claims to basically break down three world wars,
all the plans and how they would lay out. I want bore you
with part one and Part two, but part real World War was one and
two basically happened exactly as predicted, but the third Global War, according to
Pike, would be fought between the West and the leaders of the Islamic War.
Or more specifically, let's see how is the word basically that the Third
World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agent
tour of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic world.
Wow, bring in eighteen seventy one prophetic. Yeah, seems to fit
into the hole there, square block, square hole. What do you think,
wondering Wolf? Yeah, I was just kind of going through and reading
this letter. It's absolutely fascinating. It does seem to fall in lind with
how we've seen events unfold. A couple things that jumps out at me,
though, was when he's talking about leaders of the Islamic world. My first
thought was, you're talking about a larger percentage of the human population than just
what is in the Middle East, because that also encompasses parts of Asia,
so the potential conflagration in that context could be massive. I'll just read one
quick quote that also jumped out at me about unleashing all the nihilists and atheists
to provoke a formidable social cataclysm, which, in all its horror, will
show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery,
and of the most bloody turmoil. And then later he talks about this manifestation
will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and
atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time. Now, that is
interesting when you consider that the context of all of the people drawing battle lines
and identifying with one side of the other and fracturing into small tribes. How
many of the people who are clamoring for an escalation of the conflict on both
sides are atheists, nihilists, secularists. I don't know. It bears for
the scrutiny. Yeah, yeah, very interesting. I guess I see that
you're having a tech issue there. We'll know what happens if you turn into
a pumpkin here once it hits midnight. That would be spooky. That would
be very spooky. Yeah. I don't get frightened, everybody, but my
battery might die on my laptop and I can't recharge it midstream right now,
all right, noted, infidel, let me ask you, considering this breaking
headline here Israel orders the evacuation of one point one million people from the northern
part of Gaza. What does that terrain look like? I'm told there are
fences everywhere. You can't just leave. I mean, given there's probably some
holes punched in the fence at this point. But what happens when someone who
has been in Gaza for the last five days with no power, no water,
no food. What happens to them when they evacuate? What does that
look like? Can you give us any context there? Well? Do you?
First? Do you know what is a square area of Gaza? It's
not all that big, is it? It's like seventeen square mile? Yeah,
it's like slightly bigger than the city of San Francisco or something. Let's
see how big is San France. I think that's like seven square miles.
It's actually really small. But I mean, actually, if San Francisco's forty
six point nine a square miles, oh, I stand correct, all right,
Yes, it's almost like three times size actually, And how many people
live there? Like two million people? Yeah, two and a half two
points So what are you going to evacuate this one? Let's say I don't
know how many people live in there, Yeah, in that area, Like
what are they gonna go? Well, that's what I'm getting at. Like
I've heard some conservative types say, well they can just you know, go
to neighboring Jordan, like you know, pick a name out of a hat.
But I'm like, well, number one, is that even possible?
Those borders are something I can't even comprehend. And number two like if you
can get outside of Gaza, which in and of itself might be uh impossible,
too difficult, what are you in? Are you just in a desert?
Do you you know you even have five days? I mean Gazza bordering
Sinai and Egypt, so that actually a whole like eastern side is Egypt,
so what what's a Sody's a western side is Egypt of Gaza. So and
it was very clear both Jordan and Egypt they said they are not opening their
borders because that's what they really wanted is they wanted to basically get those two
million people out of Gaza and this person in Egypt and Jordan, which which
is not going to happen. Egyptian are not going to allow that to happen.
Yeah, So what like one point one million people are supposed to just
walk out of Gaza. Yeah, exactly supposed to in the day. They
have one day, you have one day. That's I think that's what I
was looking at that the that the message that they posted. I mean they
said, yeah, they said they cannot come back until they they let then
I don't know, I think I I don't again, I I don't think
it's for a ground in region. I still doubt that they're going to go.
I agree they're they're going to use air air superiority, They're going to
use artillery. There are what's about Yeah, WAPO and Reuters and all these
people reporting, is really using white phosphorus sausphorous. Well, they used this
in the past, it's not this is not the first time. If that
is the case. Ye, Well, C I A and M I see
loves white fox sprang white phosphorus on weddings and DU they like to use DU
two right, depleted uranium rounds that you know. So so yeah so hashar
so. Yeah, there's really like it's it's it's a meaningless exercise because there
is no place for these people to go. Yeah, it's too bad.
It's not right between us and Mexico right wondering wolf, because we'll t we'd
take them. We're we're wide open. Well, you guys in Gaza can't
hop on the flight t W eight hundred and make your way over to Bogata
real quick. I mean, this is the attitude we're seeing from from people.
It's like, you know, your ben Shapiros of the world are just
like, ah, just crush the place, vomit glass. It tell one
point one million people to get out there. That's approximately the number we'd need
to say that we didn't kill a million people age eighteen and under. I
mean, ah, dude, it's it's just I don't know. I mean
maybe, And that's why I'm asking Infidel and you guys like am I dumb?
Am I for not just jumping on the Hey, We're gonna get all
the Hamas out of there with white phosphorus and bunker busters and this is gonna
be great. And then we'll go on over to Iran and drop some bunker
busters there and you know, make the dreams of John McCain come true from
the grave, and then it's all gonna be hunky dory, you know,
I mean, where the fuck is the foresight in people just to see where
this all goes, you know, regardless of taking a side. I don't
think there's foresight. Honestly, don't think new cons and the people in power
right now have any foresight. I think these people are ideologues. They are
they think there were still they still I don't know, really, I don't
know how they think. There's just no foresight. There is no even logic,
yeah yeah, there is, Yeah, yeah. I don't think that
that logic really applies to them. I think that it's performative. They're performers.
They're strutting and fretting their hour across the stage, you know, that's
what they're doing. And they're playing to their base. They're doing everything possible
to ensure that they continue to be elected into their positions and be positioned to
line their pockets. I think that's really what it's about. As far as
the evacuation order is concerned. I look at that and I just see that
as plausible deniability. Oh hey, well we warn them before we dropped white
phosphorus and bunkery busters and everything else in our arsenal on to one point one
million people. We tried to warn them. We tried to follow a code
of conduct, even though of course we knew that they really goodn't escape.
That's that's all it is to me. It's it's it's paving the path so
that most of the international community won't condemn them for what comes next. I'm
afraid. So I think that's astute observation there. Based I saw a bit
of a grimace on your face when we were talking about the logistics of getting
that many people out of that space. You know, I know, you're,
like many of us, a pretty big hearted person, and and that's
kind of a hurtful thing to think about, you know, even more so
than unfortunately, if if their numbers are all above board, the you know,
thousand plus people that are already dead on both sides. I mean,
this is orders of magnitude we're talking about here, you know. Yeah.
Well, my grimace was because I know a family who has a house in
the West Bank, and I taught well i'll just say I taught many members
of the family, and they go there every year and they when this broke
out, I called I called one of them, one of my old students,
and talked to him and said, please tell me you're not there right
now, and they when they you know, when they I'm not trying to
be uh overly emotional here or sensitive about this, but I just about you
know, individuals I care about. I mean, when they when they go
to visit their home there, you know, they fly into Jordan and then
they have to cross the border by car. They can't fly into that country.
And when this happened, you know, I was worried because he had
told me, one of them, had told me a story about when he
was younger and just like you see the videos of the kids like throwing rocks
at tanks, and they did that, you know, when they were younger,
and they got shot at and he said that they escaped into tunnels and
it was, oh, it's all right, you know, and he was
just a kid, so it was it was innocent for him. But I
just prayed that they were out and he's he did tell me that they had
that net. And Yahoud opened up the airport for Palestinian Americans for the first
time, like I don't know, is that the first time ever? And
uh and I said, yes, it's a one way ticket, you know,
to get you to get you out. And I'm and thank thankfully you're
here. But uh, you know, I won't share like his sentiments about
all this. But yeah, but you were, you know, you worry
you were. I worry about you. We're human beings. And uh again,
you know, I'm a I'm a Christian. I want peace on earth
and good will towards men. But of course the people that run this,
like Wandering Wolf said, are performative and they are not interested in that,
and uh, they want destabilization and instability as long as it suits their purposes
until they don't. We don't don't see you know, we have white papers
and books where we read these things, and we read about the Grand chest
Ward and these things pop up, and but we don't know. I just
I just hope this isn't, you know, the big one. Yeah,
I hope this is in the big w W three. I don't think it
is, but you know, I certainly hope not. And uh just pray
that we have peace peace on earth. Yeah, yeah, man, definitely.
I mean based as a Christian from from one identifying to another, do
you think that like, okay, if if things pop off and then now
we have a bunch of angry like actual like we have some sort of Holy
Jahad where they're there. I don't know if I buy into this or not,
but the idea that we're sold or fed is that they're going to we
have to slaughter the Jews on the Christians. Do you think that if if
they were given the chance to slaughter the Jews as it were, they're going
to come after us Christians next? And and does that mean that in order
to prevent that, we probably should just nuke that place? Do you feel
that way? Or? I mean, come on, am I am?
I a Glenn back Am radio pro nuke turned the desert into glass LINUS.
Now, I think, well why not? How dare you? I think
I think that you know, I want, you know, I want Christians
to be in charge of the Christian holy sites, you know. Uh.
And I don't know. The rest is complex, uh, you know,
as far as that place. But I think that A we always get ourselves
into an offensive war of defense right in these in far off places. I
think that coming here is a different story. I think coming here we fight.
You know, it's a I'll say, coming here it's a defensive war.
But but then again, you don't know what I'm talking about. Like
in the street here individualized. You know, we we have to defend our
faith, our our family, and our friends and our property in the future.
H And I guess that's all I can say about that. But no,
I don't think that we should send the big plutonium you know, d
e w rod from God over there, you know, and turned the place
into glass. No, I don't think we should do that. So you're
not cheering for World War three? Is actually to fulfill the end of world
prophecy? Negative. I think that that's that's uh, that's that's that's hubris
in extremists, right, we know, neither the time nor place, right,
So yeah, some of these people think that they can create it.
This is what's really disturbed. That's that's that's if anything, that's like some
sort of gnostic Krallian pyramid, you know, Illuminati thing. Right now,
the end of the world is uh, you know, is in God's providence.
That's for him to know. So yeah, so who would we lose
what just happened wandering wolf. Hopefully he'll be right back. But yeah,
this like we've actually seen people saying shit like that, like we need to
do that, and you know, have the third you know, the construction
of the Third Palace or whatever the hell you know, and start ushering in,
you know, the the resurrection or I don't even know what the hell
kind of crazy shit they're they're asking for, but they're they're talking about basically
like bringing about the Second Coming, and it's just it seems psychopathic to me,
And like, I don't know, I'm building the Third Temple, that's
what you're talking Thanks, I'm tripping over my words. I've been on mic
too much today. Yes, rebuilding the Third Temple. I heard someone,
I've heard multiple people talking about that, Like this is like they think they
have some sort of push in like the biblical fricking timeline, and it's just
like, what is wrong with you people? Yeah, that sounds that's satanic.
That sounds satanic, right, And I think that I don't know,
man, you know, I I know people that if there are two sides
in this conflict, that's there are you know, not in terms of the
top, but there are two sides. And I know I have a good
friend on one side, and I know a good family on the other side,
if if that's what we want to call it, and you know,
and I pray for them both, and I just man, all these fucking
people in charge, you know, doing this shit non state. It just
doesn't stop, you know. But I don't I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to do or say about it. It's one thing
I'm amazed at is again is the language and the posturing of people just like
that echo the sentiments and even in day in like daily life, and I'm
like, this is the thing that occurs every like ten years, every twenty
It's like, they don't remember Ariel Sharon doing this. They don't remember the
the Iraq, they don't remember the desert storm, they don't remember the war
that the forever war that just ended, you know temporarily that we had for
twenty years. People just don't remember anything. Yeah, And in fact hgu
Wells talks about that at the end of War of the World. He says
one of the things that occurs because he looks back at it in the hindsight
after the alien retreat in the book, right where they have the red the
red weed, the red death that sort of creeps and then ends up being
like it folds back on itself. It ends up being a symbol of the
tentacles strangling them it's their it's sort of their death. But he says that
a few years go by and he's and he's like, he's looking at it,
and nobody remembers. It's everyone that's in such shock. I think that,
you know, it sort of breaks the psyche of the average person.
It's like the Tommy Lee Jones meme that's going around, right. Was it
worth it? Yeah? It was worth it if you're strong enough, right,
you gotta be. You gotta be strong enough and see through this stuff
and just not get too crazy about things. I mean, honestly, just
for my own part, you know, I state, I'm already off Twitter
anyway, so I when I saw this whole thing popping off, and that's
up to people, of course, you know, to do, but just
for my own sake, you know, me personally, I just stayed away
from it and I just get I get my news through you guys and through
a couple other people, and through you know, some basic things. But
I don't want to see I don't want to have to be barraged with the
propaganda again. You know, it's the the nine to eleven references and the
greatest ally references, and that people were very quick by the way, to
go right back into two thousand and one, you know, anti you know,
you know, the anti Muslim thing. I mean, just right right,
dude, I've been tripping off. I mean they went, they went
full one hundred percent right back to two thousand and one. Yeah, I
think that's I think it's wild. I just think it's it's absurd. It's
it's so absurd, I don't know, you know. And they can't live
in my life, man, and they can't see it. I soonious say.
I've been attecked so many times on twitters the last few days, so
I guess and and and people just are so Americans are just so I hate
to say that, but they are so stupid when it comes to the Middle
East. You have no idea what the fuck is going on? And and
and and it's it's insane and and so it's as a matter of fact,
I actually one of my my really very good friends and Israeli that that moved
here to us, and I called them right after, you know, those
things that happened, to check on his family and make sure that everybody's okay.
And and you know, it's it's interesting because the first thing he said
like, oh, I'm so glad that I moved here and my kid is
here, So that's what away of the ship. So a lot of us
that actually leave the Middle East and come here to us is actually because we
want to run away from the ship that we lived there, right yeah,
But people here just love to just light fire on this ship, right and
and and and actually create division, whereas actually a lot of people that come
here they don't have that division really. So it's we need to stop that
madness and hatred, and we have to stop being pushed by negative from Neocon's
paid people, from politician. There's a lot of people on the pay h
you know, taking paid checks to really push that narative right now and against
Muslims, and you just can't stop that. I agree, but I think
that, you know, the geopolitical spectrum is obviously important, and the thing,
it's amazing how we live in a world now, how everything everywhere affects
everyone individually in every town. You know, it's no longer like you read
the newspaper and the war is happening on the other side of the world.
Everything affects us in the here and now. And I just for me,
it's you know, I think that the wars keep going on and everything happens,
and I'm just constantly concerned more about what happens right here, like in
my city, in my town. I mean, there are people I know
another there's another young person I know who got killed just the other day,
got shot another one just the other day, and I worry about are they
you know, schools shutting down, people shutting down. Gas prices, food
is too high, people don't have anything to eat, and you know,
I don't want them to shut the churches down again. And I know that
that may sound naive, right, or it may sound small minded, but
I think that that's we lose sight of those things. You know that we
just went through where we just went through something three years ago that was that
was global and was a war on the self, and now we're going into
a physical, hot war. So it's important not to lose sight of those
things that just continue. But under the surface, yeah, dude, they
violated our country's first Amendment, right, they're doing their best to take away
our Second Amendment, right, working on violating that in every state they possibly
can. Everything has been violated. Everything, it's been violated. A single
thing that is important to people in every way has been violated. And again,
for me, the first thing was that the church is shut down,
you know, I mean that to me, that's a symbol of Yeah,
that's your freedom, and you can't you can't go pray. You got to
hide your face when you go to the church. I mean, it's hard.
I'm never gonna forget. I'm never gonna forget that. Yeah, no,
it's it's part of your fucking first fucking Amendment. That's why they call
it the first one. And we've already lost freedom of the press. That
is fucking gone. It's owned by big corporations and intelligence agencies. Now they've
they did the Smith Mont Act repeal or reworking, I forget the stupid name
they put on it, revision, I don't know. And now it's completely
legal for them to do propaganda on us. And I've been just going back
and rereading about propaganda this week, and propaganda is such a deep topic,
you know, and it's it's key in what we've done here in the boiler
Room in the last nine years. And it's used not just to demoralize your
enemies, but it's also used to uplift others, you know, your your
allies, and let's just stop for a fucking second here and remember who the
US government, the federal government's agencies, have called their enemies over the last
few years. They weren't. They weren't talking about Black Lives Matter, as
they stole money from everybody and essentially laid the philosophical groundwork for a race war.
They weren't talking you know what I mean, Like, that's not the
enemies this propaganda is pointed at. They weren't talking about the enemies that have
come here and poisoned over one hundred thousand people with fentanyl. They weren't talking
about the enemies that, as Bees is pointing out, egregiously shat on all
of our freedoms and liberties. No, they were talking about conservatives. They
were talking about Trump people. Remember the same people you're taking your intelligence and
your news from right now are the same ones that gave you all those egregious
violations of your rights. And now you want to like let them fucking pied
piper us off into acceptance into what could potentially turn into something nasty, something
that might appear you're biblical when it's not, when it's completely fucking engineered by
these psychopaths. I mean, yeah, these people are not going to save
anybody. And and you know, did you guys see did you guys see
the interview between Brian kill Me, the Fox, and the guy who was
the head of the thing that got McCarthy out as speaker. It's one of
the It's yeah, it's it's one of the it's one of the most It
wasn't Matt Cat's it was. It was like a Tennessee or a Texas guy.
Oh, very very funny because Brian kill Me says, so tell me
one question, why do you hate America? Right? And then the guy's
like, listen, you know, I just I just I don't. I
just thought he was a bad leader, and I just wanted to get him
out of there. And he's like, yes, but don't you aren't you
supposed to work for Congress And he's like, no, actually I'm not.
I'm supposed to work for my district. And they didn't. They overwhelmingly thought,
you know, McCarthy was a bad leader. We wanted to get out.
And he's like, yes, but why did you veto the money being
sent to Ukraine? Is that because you hate America? I mean, it's
it's unbelievable, you know, it's it's unbelievable. And then I listened to
McCarthy's speech and he said he said something like he said, there are oh,
we got to close the borders because there are ninety two people from one
hundred and thirty two countries. I thought, what, that doesn't even make
sense who have come over? We know ninety nine percent of them are terrorists.
And also I think it's important that we, you know, bomb the
cartels, and you're like, you know, just anything about bombing and destruction
elsewhere, right, as long as it's the alien, as long as the
other and then break it over here. It's just it's absurd, I guess.
Yeah, real quick observation about something too that I'm not voiced yet,
but I Ke keeps bugging me in like because this is kind of weird.
Like you guys, remember it wasn't that long ago when like something would happen
anything like usually a kind of minor event, and then these terrorist groups would
come out and say that was us, Yo, we did that. That
would yo plaving responsibility, right, yeah, dude, how come Hamas has
not come out and be like, yeah, you bet your ass. We'd
beheaded forty children and there's more of that coming. No, they said,
yo, hello, we didn't do that. They also denied the thing with
the alleged rave killings too. That's kind of an odd move for a terrorist
group if they're supposed to invoke fear and terror. I would own up for
that if I was a terrorist, but they're denying it. It's very strange,
and no one's really pointing that out. Just thought I bring it up.
And they moved the rave too, the hippie spiritual Oh, they put
that. They put that at the last minute. They moved that into a
very inconvenient place. If if you're not in a fan of getting shot in
the middle of a giant fight between two militant groups, right, why would
you take something like that and forty eight hours before it move it to a
place like right near near the drip. It's insane, Like, how are
we? Here's the thing, everybody, This is sort of like the Big
Bang theory, right, Like you can do all the math in the world,
have it make sense, but you still have to have that faith in
that moment of the unlikely spark, right Like, you cannot do Big Bang
without having faith in the spark for no reason or for untold reason, we
cannot have faith that this conflict is in any sort of appropriate framing. If
there was not an intelligence failure for you to want to pick a side in
this and take it to whatever you know level you think is appropriate, just
you know, all of us individually, in our minds and in our worldviews,
all you could come up with to say, if you have any fucking
soul in my opinion is stop this right now, everybody, fucking stop right
now. We were not told the truth about how this started. And even
if that truth is that it is not an intelligence failure and that people knew
about this ahead of time and it was allowed to happen, pump the fucking
brakes, right, Like we went to World War Two without having this conversation
because we didn't have internet. We didn't know that FDR was warned. Right,
But now we're watching this in real time, and we know the patterns,
we know about how these things work. We've read the we've read the
documents, we've read the books. We've read the documents books. I've got
them right here, stacks and stacks of documents printed out under my desk.
But it's like not mad at the crew, all right, I'm not mad
at you guys, But it's like we didn't have that before World War Two.
Look what world War two turned into. We didn't have the same kind
of internet and fast moving, high speed information on the after nine to eleven,
in the lead into Iraq, in the lead into Afghanistan. You know
what I mean, we had to get everything filtered out, like from their
backwards. You know, Panama files start coming out, Vault seven starts coming
out, Snoweden thing happens, all this other shit happens, a saune happens,
Boom, the information is off flowing so fast. And we've just spent
the last nine years trying to unfucked and untwist the ways in which we are
allied to by the various levels of establishment that caused these things. Right,
and now now we're asking the big question, Hey, can we pump the
brakes because this might have been engineered, allowed, false, flagged in one
way or another, which, by the way, doesn't mean it's fake if
you're a newbie. It's a nuanced thing. It can mean a lot of
different things. But if same with nine to eleven, right, I mean,
but we're at a point now where we're able to ask this question on
day five, day six of this conflict. Well, it's interesting that we
you're right, I mean, we didn't We didn't have this fir wwww one
right with the Huns and the Bayonets and Burnet's. And we didn't have this
in w W two. We didn't have it in Nam, we didn't have
it in Korea. We didn't have it in Grenado, we didn't have it
in Panama invasion, right, we didn't have it in Falklands War. We
didn't have it in all these places. And yet in the meantime, first
of all, that the asymmetrical guerrilla warfare thrives UH in these instances, right
with propaganda and information and methmetic warfare. But we did start to have it
on the Big nine, and then we certainly had it before the Big Courunka
Kung Flu people, and we had it, and then we watched it in
real time and still it was like, Nope, now it's in your face
and we're just gonna do it anyway. And by the way, the people
who knew about it are gonna they gotta go mm hmm. Right, And
then we saw it with the the January thing, and now we're seeing it
with this where we know all the signs and the things. It's just just
just you know what, did JFK say that secrecy was anathema to our society?
Right? Yeah, well look where I got him. I guess sadly,
you know, sadly. But it's just it's we're the toddlers, right,
and we've got to be babied by the people who control the the story
because we can't handle it apparently. Yeah, oh shit, hash sure,
look at your clock, Oh, twelve oh five. It's it's it's it's
happening, folks. It happened here in Central Texas. It is now Friday
the thirteenth. Spooky. How are you feeling? Yeah? How sure?
Do you feel terrorized? I don't, No, I'm good. Yeah,
it's only five minutes in. I guess it's too early to tell. I'm
one. I'm one hour ahead of you, and I think, well,
I guess, yeah, think what about it? What about this? The
last day of the year is one two three one two three. Oh that'sting
spooky. I got you guys all they think about that now? Oh crap,
that's true. It is it is one three one three. Uh,
well, yeah, go ahead, wonderwolf. I was, I was just
gonna say, and and I'm I'm two hours behind you guys, So so
maybe i'll I'll check in in two hours and see if anyone is still on
the other end to answer my question. But so, you know, the
thing that I wanted to kind of say about all this too is, you
know, this war is well, war in general is being marketed to us
right. It's being packaged and sold and positioned and optioned. People in every
ideological tribe are buying memetic shares in this new Israeli war as if it's the
latest corporate fad. And and I don't know the degree to which we've we've
really seen the propaganda this scale before, you know it's It's often been remarked
that von Klaschwitz says that war was the continuation of politics by other means.
And it reminds me when I look at this and I step back and look
at all all of what's transpired over the past couple of days, reminds me
of something that I love him or hate him. Jean belgria I had said
in nineteen sixty six, when he was talking about the deterrance strategy, you
know, in the context of the Cold War, and he talked about war
as the archaic violence of expanding systems. And he was remarking on the media
and saying that no one talks about deterrence and that increasingly there will be a
point where there's no discussion of an adversary or a strategy, and it kind
of coalesces into a planetary structure for the annihilation of stakes, the stakes themselves.
And I find that very interesting in the context of what's going on right
now. And the quote is everywhere were irreversible apparatuses of control or elaborated everywhere
with the notion of security becomes omnipotent everywhere where the normal places the old arsenal
of laws and violence, including war, and it's the system of deterrence that
grows and around it grows the historical social and political desert. Right. So,
yeah, we are in the desert of the real We are really attached
to the mimetic understanding of what's going on in far flowing parts of the world.
But what's being annihilated and destroyed here really is the stakes, or what's
being illuminated here is the stakes, which is what I think that we're all
talking about here. We're the only ones who seem to be saying, hey,
pause for a minute, understand what's actually happening, what we're being told
versus what is truly happening on the ground, and understanding the stakes and implications
of the decisions that are made. We're not buying. We're not buying the
mimetic shares in this whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah,
I'm not buying. No way, man, this is there. You go,
Rocus, this is pretty insane. Here to check this out, let's
read you this one paragraph out of this document I pulled up earlier today.
I can't cite it right now because I cut and pasted it. But talking
about war propaganda, so as you contrast the tremendous volume and intensity of war
propaganda today, and keep in mind, this is kind of like referring,
well, I'll just continue on never mind. As you contrast the tremendous volume
and intensity of war propaganda today with the situation in wars of other eras,
you can't escape the conclusion that what's going on is now a modern phenomenon,
propaganda of some sort. Had it's been it is true been used in warfare
for centuries, but all the social, economic, industrial, and military factors
that make propaganda a large scale part of war in nineteen forty four first made
themselves seriously felt in World War One. In that war, propaganda for the
first time became all important and a formal branch of government. It is in
modern times that we have become familiar with such governmental institutions as the British Ministry
of Information, the German Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment, the American Committee
on Public Information in World War One, the Office of War Information in World
War Two, and their counterparts in many other countries. It should not be
forgotten that the astonishing forward strides in communications in the twentieth century have had a
lot to do with the development of propaganda, especially radio broadcasting. See this
is a little bit older of an article. As I was getting at.
Not only is propaganda vital to the conduct of modern war, it is also
possible to reach many millions of people regularly day and night, who only twenty
five years ago might have been almost beyond the reach of propaganda. Not only
the words, but the actual voices of the leaders of the nations at war
are familiar to millions of people over the world, carried by the magic of
radio. Now take that mindset and slide it to the right to where we
are on the timeline, where we literally have artificial intelligence offices of propaganda inside
and outside of government, corporate entities doing it, NGOs doing it, intelligence
agencies doing it in collusion with a technocratic machine that has cybernetic feedback loops attached
to it, algorithms, image creation, all this stuff. And then imagine
that all being held by a set of a conglomeration, a cabal that wants
to do global governance. And then bring it back to the United States where
they've weaponized all these factors against their own people. And now I want to
use that same trick to get us into larger conflicts. Well, they've already
named us, many of us in the United States as enemy combatants simply for
their political stance. I think that's pretty profound right there. You know,
these new agencies we have would make the German Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment
fucking blush. That's right. Yeah, I just had to get up and
get this book. I don't want to show the cover of it because it's
got spicy symbols on it. But I'll show you the spine, which is
this book right here on Gebels. This is a recent book. I read
this in twenty sixteen. Peter Longrich published in twenty ten, and it's a
biography of Gebels. And then if you read that and Gebels his own book.
I mean this is that in reading Burne's, Brenees's propaganda is like the
key, that's like the twin pillars. Plus this biography of understanding propaganda in
any sort of a you know, a coach of context, I guess for
now because the same principles still hold. You know, brene said that the
thing about propaganda is how the the elites run the invisible war over the masses
and control them. And it's still mean, it still holds great examples of
not great, but important or significant examples of propaganda in terms of warfare.
I mean, we've all lived through this, right, we live through the
War on the Self, the War on tur and the Cold War. But
just you know, when I lived in Northern when I went I went to
school in Northern Ireland, and so I was I lived in Belfast, and
this was just post good Friday Agreement, and so you know, I guess,
just as an American seeing this over a couple of years, I saw
kind of a I think, a unique perspective on this sort of thing.
And it really is incredible. I mean because at the time also there were
clearly, you know, there was there was solid like if you went into
a loyalist neighborhood there would be Israeli flags, if you went into a Republican
you know, or a nationalist neighborhood there would be Palestinian flags. This was
in late nineties, early two thousands, and it really is amazing. It's
amazing the way that you know that at the time, especially the Internet was
in its sort of beginnings not really that effective. But the way that television
and state media and then newspapers and magazines work is one thing, but word
of mouth is so is so influences people on a deeper level. And so
I think that once these things start to reach the point where the average person
is speaking about this and has like you know, spicy opinions where they're willing
to they're willing to argue with you in a visceral sense, like in a
Walgreens, then it's like it's it's getting to a it's getting to a point,
you know, where it's like everybody just needs to chill the fuck out,
man, you know. Yeah, And I'm not I'm not trying to
be glib or anything, you know and say like this aggression will not stand
man, But seriously, everybody, I mean, I know it doesn't do
any good to say, you know, everybody chill out, But I'm glad
that we are. Yeah, you know that we have a sort of objective,
just passionate opinion about this. And aren't you know, can see it
for what it is. I suppose. Yeah, people just freaking out this
week, man, you know, and I get it. I get it,
but it just takes me back to incubator babies, takes me back to
WMDs, takes me back to it's very seductive, that the fear is seductive.
It's it's almost sexually potent. And how seductive it is, and how
how people really get swallowed up in this stuff. And it's I think once
people get to that point, it's very very hard to chill and take a
step back. But that is possible, you know, and we're pre programmed
right now, we you know, as a larger population here are pre programmed.
We were pre programmed to reopen the lid on the Arab hatred. You
know, everybody had that kind of oh we gotta we put that one down
for a good twelve years or so, didn't we. Like as soon as
the drama Hamed thing happened here, that was kind of the last uh,
you know, fear the Muslims sort of thing. And then like Obama years
carried on and it was all of a sudden it was the religion of peace
was the Charlie and the bataclon Yep, heb doo bataclono. Yep, definitely
exactly. You know, they had the beheadings on the beaches and the right
the bridge and you know, wandering Wolf, I think you were talking about
the guy, you know, making rhymes. I mean remember the Beatle,
Remember the the the g hottest Beatle. Wasn't that guy executed? No,
he was killed in Spain in a prison, that's right. Yeah. Yeah,
But you know, this stuff is all tied into one another, into
itself, and again it's just very seductive for people. So yeah, same
with the fear and outrage responses, right, I mean, but it's pre
programmed for that, after COVID and all the trump Ism of axism in all
those years, and aren't they going hard after Facebook and Twitter? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, there's calls to have them do censorship now, Like people
are literally asking, that's impossible. It's not going to happen on Twitter or
x because Elon Musk is a free speech app right, I mean, it
can't happen or anybody. No, we certainly won't see that, will we.
We shall see. Have you guys been reading dugans out Alexander Dugan's tweets?
I saw a kerfuffle today over one of his tweets somewhere in my doom
scrolling for the day. Yeah, he's doom scroller three twenty two. Yeah.
I mean again, I don't have Twitter. This is something somebody sent
me. But and I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm a Duganist, folks,
I'm saying it's important to read what people say. But you know,
he did have a one of the clearest takes on the thing, at least
from a Russian perspective on in terms of the West and the divisions within the
West and some of the deeper causes of this stuff and decadence, degenerousy and
lack of belief in things, and this sort of East versus West push at
the beginning. I haven't read his tweets since, but he had a couple
of good ones a few days ago. Are interesting ones to read. I
shall say, Oh yeah, don't call them good. Oh you might.
You just that's not what I meant. That's not what I meant, folks.
I just had it. I had it on the desk in a snack
of documents. Right. Trump says the same thing that he said about the
Russia thing too, about this. Did you hear that? So this would
have never happened. Days is going to have to do it. This would
have never happened if I was still president. Listen, folks, this would
never have happened. It would never have happened. I walked in, I
said, they're at war. I looked, I saw that we were at
war, and I said, you know, I told you this. By
the way, we've got a Senator Ronda Sanctus. He wants to bomb Mexico.
Now there'd be but no bombing of Mexico people. You know, remember
his speech about he said, and that is it true, mister president,
that you called the leader of the of what was it al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Yes, he called me your magnificence. That's what he called me.
I don't know if he calls anybody else that, but he called me your
magnificence. We were and I sent him a picture of my of his house.
I said, look that's your house. There's your little piazza, your
little garden. We've got a hell fire missile going down on it right now
if you don't change your mind. He said, yes, you're magnificence.
That's you know, people call me magnificent. And he said Hesblow is very
smart. And he got in trouble for that one. Oh yeah I did.
And he's like, look, I called him very smart. I didn't
say that I like him or something. These people are very smart. I'm
not saying that they're smart. A lot of people want to call him smart
asses. That's what they say. I call him smart people. Oh my
god. All right, let me float this one by you, guys.
I had this great conversation with Mike Ryan last night and he brought this up
to me, and I've just been thinking about it ever since. It's just
like, okay, follow me on this so they're saying, the media and
analysts and people are saying that there are American weapons being used by Hamas against
Israel. Right, has everybody seen that? Everybody's seen you raise your hand?
Have you seen this? Talking point? Larry Johnson, former CIA analysts,
was talking big about this too, suggesting that a lot of the weapons
that were sent to Ukraine have somehow managed to accidentally oops, land over there,
oops, which is completely It's very plausible, right, because it was
just a few months back that Pentagon came out and said, we don't know
where seventy percent of those things go once they're out the door and land over
there in Ukraine. Well, look, a tank that we sent to Ukraine
ended up at a gas station in Louisiana. I don't think so remember that
guy. Yeah, look I got it from somebody. I'm not gonna say
it. So, yeah, we got a F thirty five we found on
eBay too, but we'll save that. So if this is true, and
it seems plausible because you know, they're saying, hey, we don't know
where seventy percent of this stuff goes. It disappears into a black hole,
I believe was the quote when asking about Hey, could we do an audit.
Maybe, Like we spend a lot of money, a lot of tax
dollars, a lot of our a lot of our stuff. Guys, Uh,
do our own soldiers need these things? So all right, let's just
game theory this out. Our government takes billions of dollars of our tax dollars,
right, prints it whatever, I don't know, craps it out of
one of their little machines, or you know, just tap some zeros on
a keyboard. Whatever. Oh, maybe send some in crypto. All right,
we could use this FTX thing. Maybe they'll kick a some back on
the side. Okay, I won't go too too far down this, but
let's just say, okay, this happened. Spend all these billions of dollars,
and we sent over artillery, some newtered tanks, a lot of guns,
a lot of guns, right, some M four's, maybe some of
those ak's they got laying around a lot of ammo, right, Probably not
enough for anyone to save themselves with, but enough to say, hey,
we tried. We gave him, you know, four bullets in that gun
that no one trained him to use. Anyways, So all this stuff right
goes to Ukraine and then cash too, because Olena has to go do jewelry
shopping in Perie and get people fired when they don't treat her like the royalty
that she is. Of course. Anyways, back to the weapons. The
weapons go from the United States and maybe a couple other countries right to Ukraine
to kill Russians. Okay, we're this is follow the bouncing ball. This
gets really dissonant in a moment here. Trust me, this gets really fucking
dissonant in a moment here because seventy percent of them disappear. They're being sold
online that we're seeing. Some of them end up in the hands of Russians,
some of them in Sudan, some of them in Turkey by some reports.
Right, so our stuff is, you know, not all landing in
the hands of the Ukrainians that are fighting for democracy up there where they've already
shut down churches and journalists and political parties. So that's their democracy, I
guess, I don't know, but that's why we had to send all those
weapons over there. Right, So the weapons they go to those guys,
except for seventy percent of them disappear, we don't know, and all of
a sudden this pops off and we're told that Hamas has some of these weapons.
So wait a minute, let me just make sure I have the circle
correct. Here, US sends weapons to corrupt Ukraine, which has Nazi factions
floating around in this little militia cloud. You know, Nazi factions in this
little militia cloud. I don't know. That's kind of weird, right,
that we're arming groups like that, But let's just set that aside. Maybe
I'm crazy. Anyways, said weapons go there ostensibly to kill Russians, but
they get rerouted to Hamas and are used to kill Jewish people. And now
our government is telling us we need to send more money and more weapons and
more intelligence to Israel so they can defend themselves from the weapons we gave to
Ukraine which ended up in Hamas's hands. Are you starting to see the like
recycle icon here? Let me stop you right there. Not once ever in
in living memory history, as long as the military industrial complex and wars have
existed, Never once have we ever seen an instance where there is an industry
supplying arms and ammunition to both sides to profit from it. Not once you're
crazy, your tinfoil hat bro is showing I just wanted to underline that,
because I think that shows a piece of dissonance that we should all think about
for a second. It reminds me. It reminds me of arms and cocaine
moving from the United States to Iran to Nicaragua in a big triangle, or
how Europe was angry about heroin flooding in, you know, across the Caucasus
and through the Russian borders. And then and then we funded various groups in
Iraq right to fight Iran, and then we invaded Afghanistan where all the opium
comes from, and then we go part of the poppy fields, and then
that somehow made its way back to here where we have an opiate opioid crisis,
which then drugs then we have and we have a war on drugs,
and then we send soldiers and marines there to take care of that and to
guard it, but also kill the people that are guarding it or something.
And then they get their legs blown off and then they're prescribed opiates, and
then we cut them off, and then we give them synthetic opiates from all
over the I mean, yes, sounds weird, weird stuff, These concentric
circles I do not like. I don't like it. I feel like we're
having the wool pulled over our eyes a little bit here. Do you remember
that scene in that movie Munich. There's a scene, you know, after
the the Olympic attack and they send the Massiah commandos out to like the safe
house and they walk into the safe house and they're like, what are you
guys? And they're like like, are you guys? Are you a r
eh? And they're like no, And then the other guys are like,
no, we're South African. And then the other guys are like Columbia and
the other guys are fark and then they're like, oh no, we're PLO
And they're like, oh, we here the guys we're looking for. But
we're all in the same safe house together, by the way, big community.
Oh man, what a weird, weird place to find ourselves. Oh
it disappeared into a black hole or a black budget. Yeah, oh,
rugus, did we lose you there? I saw you looking like you were
going to talk and then it didn't happen. I gotta do a security check
real quick, all right, opsec in effect, let us know when it's
all good. Maybe that's the Friday the thirteenth, effect outside the Rugets studio
and I hit my microphone. Sorry guys, Yeah, man, no problem,
you got it fixed super quick. Wandering wolf, I mean, what
do you think about that, dude? Just like, can you believe that
the arms trafficking circle that we're looking at here, if this is really the
way this is working. And let's also not forget the six billion dollars worth
of gear that was left in Afghanistan. And I can't help but think that
this turn of events, if it was expected or planned or you know,
coerced or anything in any anything other than what the mainstream narrative is the pull
out of Afghanistan could make a little bit more sense now why they pulled out
so fast? Yeah, it makes a tremendous amount of sense. I remember
saying even back then. I was having conversations with friends of mine who are
Green Berets, and they were saying as much at the time too. And
so you just watch, wait and see where these arms end up. Something
is gonna eventually take place in the world, and American weapons will be involved.
And yeah, I'm not surprised at any of this. I've been saying
it for a long time in my circles I just think it's uh, it's
just interesting playing Carmen san Diego with uh, with weapons of war and trying
to guess exactly where these things are going to turn up, and how many
different cities they've been to and countries they've been to. Yeah, none of
this is surprising at all. I think that I'm just glad to see more
and more people talking about this and this information being more readily available because it
I I've really wants it to snap some people out of their stupor. But
no, none of this is surprising. They know where the weapons are.
I mean, the the Sas used to do this thing in the eighties in
Northern Ireland called jarking where they would find the weapons cachets and they would essentially
track. They would put a track on them, so they knew when the
weapons were being moved, how many weapons were there. They'd have surveillance on
where the people were going back and forth. These are like farmhouses informata,
you know, and and real rural shit, right, But it was on
a massive scale and that's how they were able to I mean, I'm sure
you know they couldn't track everything, right because they still had to have the
decommissioning and all that stuff. But that was in the eighties, so I'm
sure now the process is just advanced. They know where things are, where
they're moving. I guess it's just who wants to control what and what's the
destabilization process until it leads to an actionable event. Yeah, and if any
if it was premeditated, they need plausible deniability. So there has to be
some sort of crisis or mismanaged pull out, something to predicate these weapons going
missing in the first place, and had to look like incompetence not malfeasance.
Right, So like you're like, you're you're nineteen hijackers with box cutters basically,
yeah. Or the weapons running program in Mexico, remember that. Yeah,
fast and furious rest, Yes, got a border patrol agent killed,
multiple other people killed. Yeah. What Wandering Wolf just said describes Joe Biden's
presidency perfectly. Oh man, well, you guys, I don't know.
We're two hours and forty minutes into this, and I think, uh,
we could clearly do this for a long time. But let's let's let's round
it out. Let's round it out and call it a night. Uh.
Based it was great having you on Brian McClain's show with Me today at Today's
News Talk. People can find that in the podcast area up there under episodes
at TNT Radio dot Live. That was fun conversation man, And of course
you got a really cool stream coming up, right, So yes, the
thing, big time stream coming up, and that's gonna be tomorrow night if
it's a busy time of year for everybody, so hopefully you know, I
plan it for Tomorrow night. But it's on out of Body. It's on
out of body desolate, not darkness. And that's on my spooky season Darkfall
series for October. I've done three three of those so far, really four,
but three of those so far. I did Final Girl Night Creatures,
I did the Dark half by Stephen King, and this one is on sort
of d I D Demons out of Body Experiences and this is the Night's Configuration
by William Peter Bladdie. Great book. It's also a movie Phoenix Program,
Vietnam Stuff and Exorcists three and Exorcist three. It's gonna be a lot of
fun to cover tomorrow night because don't forget people. Patrick Ewing m v P
NBA All Star is in Exorcist three as the Angel of Death playing with tarot
cards and Fabio is in the movie. Yes, And another thing I'd forgotten
is that the Gemini Killer makes his first makes his first predatory action in Richmond
in the film, and so that's interesting. I've done it stream on Gemini
Twins and so that's gonna be a fun one to do. Saturday night,
I'll be doing Natural Born Killers with made by Jim Bob, so that'll be
a full, you know, long analysis on that, and then h G.
Wells, I'll have that coming up. We're doing War of the Worlds
and The Island of Doctor Rowe Moreau Human animal pig comeras folks. I've never
seen a splice between an animal and a Reesius monkey, a human being and
an amphibian spider gouts, all right, So that's gonna be an interesting one.
Last thing I'll say is I did see a funny meme about Biden this
week. It said, Joe Biden a points weird bug in charge of the
night time. Did you see that something? A bug? It's playing slayer.
I thought you were enjoy the uh, just a little diversion from all
the darkness happening now. But listen, you know, I hope everybody.
I hope we live through the next day. A lot of events coming up
where I live, a lot of fun, you know, wholesome things,
some white pills coming out, and I hope everybody has a good one,
has a good rest of their spooky season. And you know, you've got
to be strong enough, right, If you're strong enough, it'll be worright.
So thanks you all for having me. I appreciate you. And Wandering
Wolf Ruckus hasher love y'all and I'll see y'all. Say all right, man,
all right there he goes Baselet analyzer on YouTube, get on over there
and follow him. Let's see here, Wandering Wolf over to you, save
rounds, final thoughts, anything you wanted through out there. And you're gonna
be on the Brian McLean Show at Today's News Talk tomorrow, right, I
think I got you on my calendar last I checked. I will be on
your show tomorrow, looking forward to it. I've got that that two forty
slot at least in my time zone. I'm going to talk a little bit
about a project I've been working on for the last year. But as far
as tonight's conversation goes, you know, it's been I'd been looking forward to
just chatting with all you guys about the happenings of the past couple of days,
you know, just just making sense of it. I mean, most
people I'm around are so enmeshed in what's going on psychologically and emotionally that they're
too close to it and they're not really in a place to evaluate it.
And I've been staying silent intentionally, and that's because A it's my nature.
B. I knew I was going to be in here in the boiling room
making sense of it all with you guys. So I just really want to
say just how much gratitude I have to have the whole gang at acr NT
and T, including all the listeners, to just make sense of this desert
of surreality that we're all in. I mean, it does seem more and
more that the tempo of crisis is picking up, and it's just good to
know that there's other people on the planet that I can always pick up the
phone, ring them up and say, hey, let's talk about this and
let's ground each other in the moment. It's good to have that. So
yeah, that's that's all. Apart from that, whatever tomorrow brings I hope
everyone out there just stay safe, stay safe, take care of yourselves,
and hopefully we'll see you all next week. Thanks again, Yeah, all
right, thanks man, looking forward to speaking with you tomorrow. We will
see Wondering Wolf tomorrow on TNT with me and uh yeah, join us over
there of course, and if you miss those you can pick them up in
the episodes over there at the website for Today's News Talk Ruckus, I stand
with Rugus. We're gonna call it a show. Anything else you want to
throw out there before we close it down? My friend, you stand with
Rugus. That's funny. I stand with Rugus too well. You know,
if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. Right. Don't
don't stand for something just because the news, or the politicians, or the
celebrities or your political persuasion is telling you to stand for that. Always use
your critical thinking, Always read everything, listen to everybody. Don't believe anything
unless you can prove it with your own research, Thus said Bill Cooper.
I ain't got nothing else. I was looking for some good news to end
it on. The Only thing I could find, if it counts, was
I guess. Greta Thunberg is facing a fine for you know, she's been
double jeoparded. I guess she got fined again for the same thing she did
back on July twenty fourth, which was my birthday by the way. But
yeah, she disobeyed a police order, so she had to pay some money
back then, and I guess as of today or yesterday, they decided to
find her again a four hundred and fourteen dollars. So poor Greta. Anyways,
how dare you? But yeah, so I hope everybody stays safe,
and I hope cooler heads prevail ultimately. But since we're talking about geopower politics,
it's probably not going to happen. So it's on each of us as
individuals to stay safe. So I hope that happens. Thanks for having me
here. Make God bless you and every one of you, and make God
save this republic and the whole world. Yes, all right, thanks ruckus.
All Right, that's it, everybody, we're out of here. Thanks
for hanging with us for the two hours and forty five minutes so far.
Working on a three hour episode here always one of those nights where we kind
of start a little bit late and I'm just like, I'll just try to
keep it brief, and you know, we'll have a short conversation and try
to keep it concise, but it's too much fun. And I gotta agree
with what Wandering Wolf said. I think it's important for all of us as
a group of colleagues and friends just to keep each other sane in these times.
And really appreciate you joining us in that journey. You know, we
put ourselves out there and have these conversations in public in hopes that it benefits
you as well. And we sure appreciate you viewing and listening to the boiler
Room. And we'll see you again next week no matter what. All right,
we're not taking any disruptions, We're not taking any wars on, not
taking any terror cells, waking up, fuck all that shit. Everybody,
have a great weekend, enjoy your Friday. Come listen to us at tnt
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