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Dwyke Heward on our website. Win
that's win. Enter it now. Do

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you want to be an American idiot? It's the substitute idiot And for the

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usual American idiot Garry Jeff Walker.
Filling in for Scott Sloan on this Monday

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morning, May sixth, twenty twenty
four, Dave Keaton tells me, you

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may have heard in the news big
problems if you're on Ronald Reagan trying to

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get on northbound seventy one, that
ramp is completely shut down because of a

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car on its side. Dave said
he thought eyewitnessed it firsthand. Didn't look

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like a fun way to start the
work week. To be sure, it's

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great to be with you. I
had a nightcap planned for tonight, and

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you'll hear more about that later because
we actually got an interview that I had

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planned for tonight's night cap with the
Reds off and boy do they need to

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take a break, go back to
Maybe a full day of batting practice will

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help. But I've got an interview
that I recorded for the nightcap I'm going

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to air today because it was just
a really cool interview with a guy who

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was at the forefront of the British
Invasion of the early nineteen sixties, toured

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extensively with the Beatles. Had the
same manager as the Fab Four, Brian

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Epstein. And we'll talk with Billy
J. Kramer a little bit later on

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today. Karen Katalene joins us first, right off the top, and who

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knows what we will get into,
And of course the phone lines are always

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open if you'd like to opine on
any of the guests or maybe dig into

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what we're talking about. It's always
a good idea to invite you in.

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Not that you'll come, but the
door is open five to one, three,

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seven four nine, seven thousand one, eight hundred the Big One and

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they contact me email at Gary Jeff
Walker at seven hundred WLW dot com without

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any further ado. One of my
favorite guests on my night show that I

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will bring along with me anytime.
She is ready, willing and able,

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and she said she was all three
today, which is great. I might

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call her a professional skeptic because she's
always very skeptical about people's opinions of different

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news stories and has her own take, and that's why I love talking to

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her. The host of Spouting Off. You can find her online at Karenkatalene

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dot com. That's k A T
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can find her right here right now. Good morning, KK, How you

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doing well? Good morning GJ.
Dubbs. How are you. I'm good?

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Professional skeptic. I didn't know I
was, but well, I mean

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I'm skeptical. If if you can
get paid to be skeptical, why not.

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I mean I'll question everything and often
have. Yes, absolutely, I

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think it's a wise habit to get
into. Yeah, I mean I was

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just questioning over the weekend for some
reason, going back four years and all

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of the things that people like you
and I were pointing out that should have

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seemed to be obvious for most people
but weren't when they were locking us down

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and shutting us down at the height
of well, actually the beginning of what

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they called the pandemic and what I
called the scamdemic because it was all planned

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demic to me, and I was
thinking about our visceral reaction to masks and

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lockdowns and how we were largely derided
by a large population of the people,

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a large percentage of the population,
rather about our stances and calling it out

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for the bs that ultimately it was
especially the lockdown, especially the lockdowns and

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the lockdowns, the isolation abb the
isolation, the discouraging of methods of healing

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that have always worked in the past, that had a sixty and sixty year

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track record now being derided and laughed
at because they, you know, they

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showed their motive. Sorry I interrupted
you. Were you done? I'm never

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done? So you just got you
just gotta jump in. I was gonna,

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you know, before I get into
any of these number of topics I

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wanted to talk to you about.
I wanted to ask you. Try and

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keep it under the three hour time
limit of the show because there are other

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guests planned. Now, Yeah,
let me tell you what I think about

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that, what you mentioned. Yeah, you know, you sometimes often have

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a talent of u zeroing in on
something that I was just writing about this

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morning when I got up, and
that was these times are are calling upon

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us to look at our blind spots, our weaknesses, our moral and ethical

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challenges, if you will. And
we've all talked to friends and loved ones

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and tried. And it doesn't mean
we are perfect either, Oh, absolutely

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not. I have incurred. I've
had this one conversation with an old friend

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who believed everything he was told,
and he's a rocket scientist. For heaven's

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sake, he's a smart man,
but somehow he was going off previous information,

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his earlier biases. And here's the
kicker. He takes people at their

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word. He's an engineer minded scientist. That doesn't mean they all do.

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But this man is a smart man
who, as it has become a parent,

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he couldn't really identify what the true
motive was. And in fact he

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refuses to assume, make assumptions,
make a check out what's going on anyway.

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What I'm really kidding at here is
you have to in these times read

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the behavior, not the rhetoric.
And there's a great word in your tradition,

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which is an English word discernment.
We're all being asked to use our

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discernment. That doesn't mean we're always
right, but you have to be willing

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to say, well, I was
wrong, or just because someone is saying

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something to me, it may not
be the truth. The upshot of it

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was that those of us who were
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when we got a response of censorship, hatred, absolute, absolute vicious

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response, how dare you disagree?
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that we were on the right track. Yeah. Yeah, there's this story

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out just over the weekend where for
former CNN host Chris Cuomo disgraced CNN as

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host. Chris Cuomo said in a
recent segment that he is suffering from a

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health condition after he received a COVID
nineteen vaccine. And so Megan Kelly also

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came out these people who believed what
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government and the corporations who were pushing
everybody to get jabbed that I refused.

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He made the revelation during his program
that's on News Nation now. He said,

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we know that vaccines can have unintended
consequences aka side effects, but nobody's

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really talking about it because they're too
afraid to blame and they just wanted to

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go away. And that's again back
to your smart rocket scientist who just took

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people at their word and believed everything
that he was told by the powers that

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be, you know, in a
state of fear, in a state of

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fear, and followed and got a
new study out from the Cleveland Clinic.

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I was pointing this out on Saturday
morning. Karen new study Cleveland Clinic,

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the data shows that if you received
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vaccines, any of them the mRNAs, you were more likely to contract COVID

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than people didn't have any jabs at
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had more than three doses, you're
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have COVID to be infected. So
it was the way we were pushed,

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the way we were forced, the
way we were demonized when asking a question

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and having doubts. Doubts were now
a crime. No less than Alan Dershowitz,

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who I interviewed, he almost hung
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got the morning crowd this morning.
It's going around, he wrote. He

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wrote, it's not COVID, he
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a right to force a needle in
your arm if they want to. And

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now he's silent. I don't know
what he's saying now. But the point

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is that when you take a massive
departure from every tradition this country has ever

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had, about welcoming debate, welcoming
descent, especially from the left, who

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led the charge on free speech,
on marching to your own drummer, on

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oh my God, pro choice,
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it's all as if overnight it became
your killing grandma if you do not put

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a rag on your face, if
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Meanwhile it became clear, but only
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was, to realize that they're the
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And their behavior after that four or
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something that quite possibly is deadly and
covering it up, sweeping it under the

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rug, making it a crime,
almost a social crime to do what you

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and I are doing right now,
which is to discuss it is what points

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to their guilt. I think what
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let themselves believe some people that any
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be could do something that diabolical.
It's like in nineteen eighty two, if

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all the media and the politician said, go to your medicine cabinet and now

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that there's been cyanide in tailanol,
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you can. What if they covered
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there was cyanide? No, what
did they do? They were terrified.

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Everybody in the country took tailanol off
their shelves because that was the responsible thing

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to do. It may have even
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no doubt. People were showing that
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being. Now we're all just fodder
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pretend. And if you do not
pretend, you are called all manner of

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names. No. I had a
called a domestic terrorist. I had a

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friend of mine that is no longer
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than welcome him back into my life
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the COVID nineteen vaccine. He had
a very good friend himself who passed because

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of COVID and who refused to I
guess, get treatment in time. So

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he kind of blames me and people
like me for his friend's death. And

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it's incredibly sad, Karen, and
so sad. And think of the logic

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that people were swallowing some people.
A vaccine is supposed to act as a

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shield to protect you from the dangerous
whatever it is, and yet they were

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successful in making people believe that the
unprotected who are supposedly vulnerable, were infecting

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those people who are supposed to supposedly
supposed to be protected. Yeah. Easy.

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So they turned truth on its head, and and they succeeded. Remember

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the mass mention that Biden the puppet
was saying over and over and over again,

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and everybody was repeating it. It's
a it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

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In other words, they're the bad
guys. Go after them. You

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know, this is classic scapegoating and
and inciting people to hate your enemies.

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Where have we seen that in history? Where well, we've seen a lot

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of it in recent history in America
on college campuses too, in a different

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form. And how telling we got? We got like no time left,

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but with this, I just wanted
to leave you with one thing, Karen,

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How telling was it that the punk
protesters, the over educated, useful

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idiots and on these college campuses,
including here in the Tri State at Miami,

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wearing masks and then referring to the
police as being the same as the

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KKK when they're the ones covering their
faces. Wearing masks is a cowardly act.

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And that's why you can't go into
a bank and wear a mask.

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Every the truth has been turned on
its head. I know you got to

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go. I think one of the
bright spots in a very dark time is

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that we're all being called to know
what we stand for, to use what

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discernment we have, to determine truth
from falsehood, and to trust your gut

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and look at your own self and
what you know, what, where are

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your fears and where are you willing
to stand up and be counted. It's

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for liberty and true diversity age,
diversity of thought. Karen Kataline, thank

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you so much. Thanks for a
spout off with us this morning on the

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Scotch Loan Show, Gary Jeff Walker. We'll take a break and come back

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with Tim Hale, who was a
January sixth prisoner, his tale of woe

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and more as we continue. If
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At nine thirty seven on a Monday
morning, May six, the judge

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in the Trump trial in New York, Juan Mrshan, who imposed these ridiculous

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gag orders on President Trump find him
a thousand dollars per violation last week,

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says the fines are not working and
will consider jail time for Trump on contempt

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of court charges. He says the
gag order violations are a direct attack on

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the rule of law. Well,
almost everyone who knows anything about law and

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the rule of law says that the
gag order he imposed on President Trump are

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a direct attack on the first amendment
of the Bill of Rights in the Constitution,

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free speech. When everybody else can
talk and the defendant can't, So

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now they're going to put Trump in
jail. I have, oddly enough,

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a former political prisoner on the line
right now to talk to us to find

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out what it's like to have your
freedom of speech violated by the so called

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rule of the lawless in places of
power, like in seats of judges and

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in prosecutors. Tim Hale, a
January sixth prisoner political prisoner, joins us

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on the Scotch Loan Show. Gary
Jeff with Tim Hale. How you doing,

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Tim, I'm doing phenomenal. Thank
you for having me on. So

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I mean you're gonna good morning.
You're gonna have something else in common with

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Donald Trump if Judge Murchon gets his
way and puts him in jail on contempt

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of court charges for violating his unconstitutional
gag order. Your thoughts, it's actually

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not very different from January sixth.
They prosecuted us for First Amendment demonstrations and

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then they threatened us for speaking out
about it. You know, they not

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only denied it like they wouldheld our
evidence for instance, and if we tried

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to go to the public about it, a lot of people were penalized.

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You got people who have who got
longer sentences for talking about their cases.

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This pure weaponization of law, and
it's an absolute violation of his you know,

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of his civil rights. Why shouldn't
he talk out about the people who

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were trying to destroy his life.
It's America. It's it's amazing that this

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is happening in the United States of
America. And yet the the the Biden

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DOJ or the Department of Injustice as
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continues to use this as their tool
to Trump down any kind of or tramp

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down any kind of descent. And
two, just when people won't shut up,

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just put them away. Take I'm
waiting for them to come in this

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studio and take me out in handcuffs
for this commentary. It's it's unbelievable that

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this is happening in this country.
Tim, You serve this country in our

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military and you spent how long in
jail for being at the Capitol on January

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sixth, twenty twenty one. How
long did you serve in jail? I

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was incarcerated for three years for being
at the capitol and not even and with

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no violent charges either. Well,
so this is the future. This is

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going to happen to anybody soon.
Let me ask anybody whos anybody who supports

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Trump just be there. Yeah,
I mean, that's what it is.

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It's all one sided. It's unequal
protection under the law. It's exactly flies

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in the face of what we're supposed
to be protected from our government according to

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what the founding fathers said out and
they've turned it on its head. Let

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me ask you first, what was
your motivation to be at the Capitol on

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January sixth in the first place?
Tim I was just there for a speech,

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and I went there in a suit
and a tie. That tried to

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to, you know, make me
out to be a domestic terrorist. After

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that, you know, they went
through my phone to find offensive memes,

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you know, to make me look
like I was this, uh you know,

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far right extremist. You know,
I was an internet troll. They

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tried to use that against me.
So there's your other Here are your other

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First Amendment violations, you know.
I mean I was there in a suit

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and a tie. I would if
I was there for a revolution, I

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wouldn't have worn men's warehouse. I
guarantee it. You'll look You'll look good

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at it. I guarantee it,
especially when they're carting you off to jail.

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Now let me ask you this.
Uh you went to to President Trump's

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speech at the Ellipse, correct,
So you went to the Capitol when that

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was over, you marched to the
Capitol grounds or you walk to the Capitol

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grounds, correct? Right? Oh? Yeah, I mean, And here's

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the thing, Like a lot of
stuff went down at the Capitol, but

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most people did know any of that
was going to happen because by the time

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people showed up, by the time
people showed up to the Capitol. There

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were barriers that were knocked over by
guys like refs and stuff like that,

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you know, and his crew,
And that happened a half hour before people

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like me even showed up. So
thousands and thousands of people just pour it

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in thinking it was just going to
be a protest. They didn't even know

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they were on restricted grounds, so
you know, I mean, it was

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clearly a setup, and it was
also a way for them to target Trump

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by attacking us. You know,
I think they planned this years ahead of

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time. What were you charged with
to be incarcerated for three years? I

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mean, initially it was just like
stupid misdemeanors like trespassing. But once Biden

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got into office after the inauguration,
then that's when they started indicting people.

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And they basically took this en run
era charge called eighteen USC. Fifteen twelve.

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It's tampering with a witness. But
they used this sub section that was

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at it from the n run era
called obstruction of an official proceeding, which

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has to do with destroying documents.
Somehow the DOJ created this ridiculous legal theory

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that interrupting the boat count was somehow
obstruction of justice, an obstruction of an

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official proceeding of Congress. Therefore,
they could charge us with this ridiculous felony

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charge that's never been applied and it
carries up to twenty years in prison,

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and not everybody's getting twenty years.
But he saw how you know, how

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they treated, say the Proud Boys
and the oathkeepers. They're trying to get

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every you know, drop of blood
that can get out of us. You

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know, they're trying to get blood
out of a rock. So and by

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the way, I was in jail
with informants who confess that they were at

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the Capitol to get out of trouble
for drug conspiracies from twenty twenty. So

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they're actually at the capital to get
out of trouble. And these are also

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the same defendants who said, well, these are the same defendants who had

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fifteen twelve first up held in federal
court. And this charge, by the

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way, is now being used against
President Trump, the substruction charge. Hopefully

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the Supreme Court will toss it out. They just had a hearing on the

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sixteenth. But it's important people understand
why I think that this was a setup

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not just for us, but also
for Trump, that charge. That charge

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being used against us and against Trump
was first upheld in court for federal informants.

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That makes this look very suspicious.
Now, the informants you were in

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jail with, I mean, were
they were there to get out of trouble

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for d How are they going to
get out of trouble for being at the

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Capitol on January sixth. There were
a lot of actors at the Capitol who

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were there in costumes, with recording
equipment, and they were basically there to

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promote the insurrection narrative. And so
it's just it's very interesting. People don't

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see the nuance here, see you
like the same twenty second clip of a

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window being broken for three years,
But they don't realize that the crowd is

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full of predominantly just regular Trump supporters. But there are also a lot of

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assets in the crowd, and so
people there were Antifa there, there were

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undercover Feds, and there were a
lot of suspicious people who've been outed since

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then for basically being asses, people
who went there basically to stir up trouble,

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to incite chaos, and really to
get other people in trouble. It

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was basically in Trotman. You mean
like the twenty five percent, as much

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as twenty five percent of the so
called student protesters that we've seen on college

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campuses for the last week and a
half are actually paid by someone to be

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there and stir up trouble. You
mean like that, Yeah, kind of

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like that. Or when I went
to Trump's inauguration in twenty seventeen and there

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was all that rioting and chaos there
and people had pre made signs that sort

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of thing too. Yeah, it
is all about Trump derangement syndrome. Why

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why are the establishment powers that be, especially now during the Biden regime,

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so afraid of Donald Trump and his
supporters? Well, you know, I

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think it's uh are they afraid of
because are they afraid of losing America?

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First? Yeah, I think it's
I think it is about the I think

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it's about the fact that the people
who control the levers of power don't want

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to give them up. And the
second there's a little hiccup in twenty sixteen,

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that's when they start losing their minds
and melting down. It's not about

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his tweets. It's about the factors. Scared of losing power, they steer

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the guy. They will do anything
to get rid of him, and it's

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the most Unamerican thing I've ever seen
in my life. Well, let's see,

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Uh, it looks like this judge
in New York, who's obviously should

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have recused himself at the beginning of
the trial since he's a Biden donor and

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his daughter is being paid by the
Democratic National Committee. It looks like he's

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going to try and put Trump in
jail now on contempt to court charges for

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a gag order that never should have
been issued. So we're watching that.

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How about the difference of treatment for
the spoiled brats on college campuses that are

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supposedly pro Palestine protesters, even though
they're talking about the Green New Deal and

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any number of things that the Left
all was guards is close near and dear

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to their hearts. The treatment of
them when they are arrested, when they're

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finally stopped from breaking into buildings,
and you know, violence against other people

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and threatening other people, intimidating Jewish
students, the treatment that they're receiving from

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the legal system, as opposed to
serious concerned American citizens in a suit and

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tie at the Ellipse watching a speech
and being on the Capitol grounds. I

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don't see any of those protesters going
to jail for three years, But I

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guess they're not really threatening the corridors
of power in Washington, d C.

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Is that the difference? Yeah,
that's about it. You know what's interesting

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is, you know you talked about
with the Founding Fathers wanted. I mean

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it's even more than that. Like, if you look at the Fourteenth Amendment

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from after the Civil War, you
have this idea of selective prosecution, you

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know, the idea that we're supposed
to have not just due process, but

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equal protection. It's like, we
can, we can do this, we

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can, we can do this dance
all day. It's like, look at

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the Antifa riots, like the Portland
riots. You know, one of the

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biggest legal arguments we made is that
this was selective prosecution, that even if

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the laws were legitimate, and they're
not, they're being applied with an equal

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eye and an uneven hand. You
know, you look at the BLM riots

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from a year before January sixth,
tear I remember when we were locked up.

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You had environmental protesters who are rioting
in DC and like rammingh ramming bike

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racks in the cops and stuff like
that. Yeah, you see this all

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the time, and now it's not. It's what the most disturbing thing is

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that this is going to this is
going to reach levels that aren't even political

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anymore. You got that Daniel Penny
guy who was just trying to be a

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citizen from what I could tell,
and they arrest him for choking out a

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bomb on a on a subway,
which you know, I don't I'm not

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happy anybody died there, but you
know they're going to use the law.

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This is just this isn't just law
there. They're going to weaponize the law

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against anybody who's just trying to do
normal American citizen behavior. It's insane.

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The country's going to be destroyed by
this, but it's it's well on the

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way, especially when you see the
expensive all look the same tent set up.

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You know this is this is orchestrated
from somewhere. Like you said,

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the ready made signs Trump's inauguration in
twenty seventeen and the instant ready to go

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signs that are all similar. This
is not grassroots. This is not somebody

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getting out some cardboard and doing some
kind of project at home with their magic

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markers making these signs. They had
them ready to go for the Palestinian protests

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and for you know, whatever protest
you can think of that airs on the

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side of anti American sentiment, an
anti freedom sentiment. It's always it's always

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the same. The pro Palestinian protesters, to me, are no different than

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the BLM or the ANTIFA. It's
all the same group of people. And

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there's a great percentage of them that
are paid to be there, that are

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organized and paid to be there.
Tim and we're seeing it now. How

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come Congressman Jamal Bullman, the black
congressman from New York, wasn't arrested on

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obstruction of official business when he purposely
pulled the fire alarm to keep a vote

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from happening in his own in his
own building. You know that is he

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got a slap from the rest And
do you want to talk about obstruction of

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official business? He pulled he cried
fire in a movie theater and and and

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he got a slap on the wrist
and said, don't do that again.

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Right, Well, that's the that's
the that's actually, that is a sign

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that I think, I think what
you just pointed out is a really good

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point. Actually, And one of
the funniest things is when they had this

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the Supreme Court hearing on the sixteenth
about the obstruction charge. I believe it

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was I believe it was Justice Gorsic
who actually made a reference to what could

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possibly be considered obstruction under the DOJ's
interpretation. Then he asked them could it

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Could it include someone pulling a fire
alarm and stopping Congress. So I think

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that the and he was obviously trolling
them, but I think that that I

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think that's a really good point.
I mean, whether it's you know,

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whether it's black block rioters who were
you know, just burning the country to

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the ground, or whether it's people
on the highest offices of the country,

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this standard never gets applied to anybody
else. So yeah, you're that's a

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that's a really good point, and
people really need to pay attention to that.

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It's it's really it's this. This, this, this toxic abuse of

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the law has creeped into every level
of our governments. Whether it's the state

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governments and you know, these state
trials, or whether it's the federal The

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whole system has just been plagued by
this. Americans really need to pay attention.

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They can't. They can't just shrug
their shoulders. This is a really

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important thing. You're absolutely right,
and I and again, I promise you.

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I was with a friend in twenty
seventeen in DC. I saw people

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rioting just over Trump. I know, I almost missed Trump's parade because of

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these people. This. They do
this all the time all over the place.

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We just don't hear about it because
of course or you know, nobody

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wants to talk about it. But
yeah, yeah, they this, Uh,

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they want to burn this country to
the ground, and they'll give people

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a slap on the wrist for it. Well again, they almost burned a

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federal courthouse to the ground. And
uh when they were rioting before I know,

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And and the Democrats, we're paying
bail for those people because it was

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all an orchestrated protest. It wasn't
about George Floyd. It wasn't about uh

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a lack of it was just like
these protests on college campuses aren't about Palestine

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or or the treatment of Palestinians.
It's about sewing. It's about sewing chaos

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and taking down our society. That's
it, plain and simple. Yeah,

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it's it's might makes right. Unfortunately
of it, they're the ones, they're

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the ones with the mic because everyone
else wants to be civil and go on

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about their day. Yeah, but
the thing is there were more of us

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than there are of them. I
believe that wholeheartedly. So we just need

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to stand firm where and whenever we
can. How can people get in touch

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with it? Tim, we're out
of time. They can follow me on

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Twitter. I'm Tim Hale, Criminally
Funny Jay sixer and uh you know,

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if you want to learn more about
the January sixth defendants, you can go

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to Patriot Freedom Project dot com.
All right, appreciate you having me on.

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Oh, thank you, good stuff. Tim Hale with us on the

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your financial four. Yeah, Trump back

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in courtroom in New York, and
the protests still continue at some college campuses,

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which, by the way, now
we know who's pay or at least

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have an idea of who is footing
the bill for the paid protesters that aren't

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college students, and so maybe you
are that are fomenting the violence. Yes,

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they have been violent. They've proven
themselves to be violent in Colombia and

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also a UCLA in US and many
other college campuses. Intimidation can be violence,

416
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and George Soros has donated to Jewish
Voice for Peace and If Not Now,

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which are both funded by the Tides
Foundation. George Soros gives lots of

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money to these groups, as does
David Rockefeller Junior, as does Bill and

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Melinda Gates. Guess what all three
of those sets of people have in common.

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They're also huge Biden donors. Maybe
that's why Joe hasn't been clear cut

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on the protest a semitic and threatening
violent protest. Switching gears here to the

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environment. By the way, some
really cool pictures out from the European Space

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Agency. They have a solar observer
it's close to our star here in the

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Solar system, and ejections and eruptions
on the Sun, some of them bigger

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than the Earth and minuscule compared to
the Sun's size. But I wonder how

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that affects our weather. Could the
Sun possibly have anything to do with our

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climate? We have the executive director
of the Climate Science Coalition, an author

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of many great books on energy and
climate. Steve Gorham joining us. The

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00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:59.960
latest is Green Breakdown of the coming
green breakdown of green energy. The Inflation

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00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:06.239
Reduction Act, which is really a
green energy bill and did nothing to in

431
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.360
fact, it inflates inflation, does
exactly the opposite with all kinds of green

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policy demands and mandates. And Steve
Gorham here talking about the coming electric power

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shortage we will be facing very soon
because of these policies. Steve Gorham,

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00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.039
good morning and thanks for joining us. Hey, Gary, Jeff, great

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to join you again. All right, Yeah, we've got some We've got

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some real big things on going on
right now, and that is the coming

437
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.519
electrical power shortage. This is really
going to be a big, big issue.

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So what do you, Steve,
just just at first blush, what

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happens? What is the more important
factor in determining climate on Earth Solar cycles

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or carbon emissions. Well, it's
the solar cycles. And you mentioned the

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eruptions on this sun. I hadn't
seen that, but if that is occurring

442
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right now. As I talked about
my first two books, Climatism and the

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Mad, Mad World of Climatism,
there's a lot of data that shows when

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the sun is very active when it
has sun spots and eruptions that we end

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up with global warming. The Sun
sends out a thing called the solar wind,

446
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which is a lot of particles that
go out through the through the solar

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system, sub atomic particles, and
they tend to block the the ions that

448
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are coming from space that bombard the
Earth continuously, and then it affects the

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cloud formation in our atmosphere and it's
less cloudy when the Sun is very,

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very active, which means that we
have some global warming. Yes, So

451
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the electric power shortage you're talking about, there are some new big demand drivers

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for electric power. Can you go
through? Why are we going to need

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more or while we're producing less?
Yeah, So for many years our power

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has been flat. About the last
two decades, the United States has used

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about a four point one million gigawade
hours, very very little change. But

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now we have a whole bunch of
things that are occurring. Three of those

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are green drivers we have. Well, first off, I should say the

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green movement. The first thing they
want to do is shut down our coal

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and natural gas power, and that's
fifty nine percent of our electricity today comes

460
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from coal and natural gas. A
bigger share of gas coal's been dropping gas

461
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and win and soil have been replacing
it. But we've got three big drivers

462
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now, and three big green drivers, and then one that's even bigger.

463
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The green drivers are the bush for
electric vehicles. Of course, we now

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have seventeen states with zero missions vehicle
mandates want to get rid of all gasoline

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cars. That's going to be a
big demand. Second is electric applyciences.

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A number of towns, cities,
counties have banned natural gas and new construction.

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New York City is about the biggest
one there. And in New England,

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for example, the independent system operator
that does the electricity in New England

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New England is SO has estimated at
a shift to electric appliances, heat pumps

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instead of gas furnaces and propane water
heaters. Those sorts of things will have

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more demand than the evs will.
And then the third one is a big

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new push for green hydrogen. The
Biden administration has put billions forward to try

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and create a green hydrogen fuel industry
for industry and for vehicles, and that

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requires vast amounts of electricity to produce
the green hydrogen. It's done by electrolysis

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of water. But bigger than all
of those is the new artificial intelligence revolution.

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This is really the big thing that's
driving it. We have to produce

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AI. We need huge amounts of
processing power, and so the big guys

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Meta and Amazon and Alphabet and Apple
are building these huge data centers. And

479
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for example, in Virginia, that
came to the Virginia Power Company and said,

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we need a giggle watch for a
couple of data centers. And that's

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that's as big as a nuclear plant. You know, where do you find

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a nuclear plant? I don't have
one of those when the solar can't do

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it. And not only new plants, but we have twenty seven hundred data

484
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centers in the United States and those
are being upgraded with new Nvidia high speed

485
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processing cards to do aiy and they
consume when they do that, they consume

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six to ten times more power.
And so artificial intelligence electricity demand is going

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to rise from about four percent today
to over twenty percent within a decade here

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at least that what it wants to
do. And there's just not enough electricity

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around to do that. So we're
going to go. Well, Steve,

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here's the point. While these mandates, these Green New Deal mandates and the

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green energy that's being forced on us
by the government. Well, we're going

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to be reducing our ability to produce
energy. We're going to need more than

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we've ever needed before. How does
that How does that translate to the normal

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person. Yeah, it's going to
all. This whole thing is going to

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crash. What's going to happen for
the normal person? First off is they're

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gonna they're going to quit closing coal
and gas plants around the country. And

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we've had some nuclear plants closed too, They're gonna quit closing those. We've

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just had a couple extended. The
first thing we're going to see is that

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they're going to stop closing them and
they're going to start extending and refurbishing nuclear

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plants. California's Diablo Canyon plant was
scheduled to close next year. It's been

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extended to operate to twenty thirty.
In Michigan, they shut down the Palisadess

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nuclear plants in the summer of twenty
twenty two, but it just received a

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00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.119
billion and a half dollars from the
federal government to restart operations. So that's

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the first thing that's going to occur. The second is that the regular citizens

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is going to have much higher electricity
bills. You know, a guy who

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wants a big guy like Meta,
who wants a gigawatt, they're going to

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probably be able to get that.
They're a big demand customer. But what

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that means everybody else is going to
have less, and so prices are going

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00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:35.599
to rise for all the regular citizens, and they're going to rise for EV

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00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:40.039
and EV charging and for heat pumps
and green hydrogen just isn't going to be

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cost effective. So this thing is
going to stop the green energy movement right

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in its tracks. That's what we're
going to see in the next decade.

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And it's going to be a lot
of wheeling and gnashing teeth on the environmental

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side. Yeah. So what about
nuclear power? Where are we at in

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this country? And and did we
just go off the deep end, say

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when things like Three Mile Island happened
and we had the know nukes movement in

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this country as you mentioned the Diabolo
Canyon and the other facility being extended.

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Do you are their plans to build
more nuclear power plants now in this country?

519
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.320
Well, it's kind of mixed,
but we're heading toward a problem with

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nuclear as well. There are ninety
four operating nuclear plants in the US today

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down we used to have about one
hundred and four of a decade or two

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ago. But these are aging.
They provide nineteen percent of our electricity in

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the US, and we have mostly
we are built between nineteen seventy and nineteen

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ninety and so they're thirty to fifty
years or more old. And the good

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00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.599
news is they can be extended to
be about run about sixty years. But

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within by the end of this decade, we're going to have to retire a

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00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.360
lot of those that refurbish them.
And this is the same time that we're

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having this tremendous demand for electricity,
So you know, we've got a problem

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with our aging nuclear plants as well. There are a bunch of people trying

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00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:15.239
to do modular nuclear and molten salt
nuclear. I hope they get some cost

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00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.480
breakthroughs there. But to produce a
nuclear plant today it takes a couple of

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decades. This is not a quick
fix, right, oh. Nuclear is

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not probably not going to be able
to bail us out. Do you see

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a re emergence of coal fired,
clean coal fired plants in this country and

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what would that take? Well,
I think what they're going to do is

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stop shutting them down. You know, a large part of the Midwest has

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a lot of coal today, places
like Ohio, places like Missouri, pretty

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00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:52.519
big percentages of electricity comes from coal. And those folks have all been told

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00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.079
you got to shut those down,
put in wind and solar. Well,

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that's not going to happen. Those
are going to continue to run because we're

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just not gonna have enough a lot
electricity otherwise. And so the green energy

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00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.599
movement is just going to crash.
And it's part of the green breakdown that

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they've written about. So I understand
that in Germany they are reopening plants that

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they had shut down because they've realized
exactly what you're talking about, that there

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is absolutely no way they can provide
power for their people and their industries with

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the green energy of footprint alone.
With yeah, they restarted more than a

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dozen coal plants. Europe has also
built twenty five there in the process of

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building twenty five liquified natural gas import
terminals to bring gas in from the United

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States and Qatar and other places.
Europe's kind of a mix. England is

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becoming a third world country. Their
electricity consumption has dropped about twenty five percent

551
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in the last two decades. But
in the case of Ireland, where we

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have all these multinational firms, they
have a problem also they have these data

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centers there and they're running out of
electricity. So it's kind of a mix

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across the continent, but it's going
to make it very, very tough for

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wind and solar to try and replace
all of these as the green movement has

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been trying to push. As we've
seen a lot of car makers in this

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country with the EV mandates losing billions
of dollars because nobody wants to buy their

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product or not nobody. But it's
not looking like we're going to be all

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EV's by twenty thirty or whatever the
made up date for the elimination of fossil

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fuel powered vehicles. What's going to
happen there? Do you believe that that's

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also on the road to like they're
just going to give up on the EV

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dates. What's going to happen when
no one's buying the cars and there aren't

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charging stations and there's not enough electricity
to power them. What happens then?

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Yeah, it's going to be real
ugly. We've already seen some of that

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00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.639
the price of used evs you can
get them dirt cheap now. They dropped

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thirty percent last year in the United
States. Hurts a rental car had to

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write down last quarter and the first
quarter this year and last quarter last year

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like almost five hundred million dollars in
the loss of the value of the evs

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that they purchased. We had EV's
lost share in the first quarter of this

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00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.559
year for the first time in a
couple of years. They dropped from about

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nine percent of a new light vehicle
sales down to about seven percent. So

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00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.159
it is kind of ugly right now. I think EV's are going to continue

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to penetrate markets, but you know, the small EV companies, I think

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they're going to go bankrupt. They're
just not going to be able to compete.

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Tesla will be hanging around. Yeah, I see Tesla. I see

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Tesla's all over the place, but
I mean they're the only ones primarily that

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that I see on the road on
a regula. Thing too is, you

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know, depending on what happens to
this election, we could have a huge

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shift. Now we've got During the
Biden administration, they were subsidizing renewables.

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I'm sorry. During the Obama administration
subsidies about fifteen billion dollars a year subsidies

581
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.440
from the federal government going to renewables
that dropped during Trump, It's come back

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up during Biden, but then they
passed this Inflation Reduction Act, and the

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Cato Institute is projecting for fiscal year
twenty twenty five that the federal government is

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00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:45.920
going to allocate eighty billion dollars in
subsidies for all this stuff like charging stations

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and carbon dioxide pipelines and carbon dioxide
capture and storage and green hydrogen. I

586
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.920
mean, just just a huge amount
of money flow for industries that wouldn't even

587
00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:00.519
exist without the subsidies. But if
mister Trump gets in there, he recently

588
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called for cutting all this stuff back, and that would just crash just dozens

589
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.679
and dozens of companies that have come
to rely on these subsidies. So it

590
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:14.880
could become very ugly next year.
We'll just have to see what happens.

591
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Well, natural gas is probably one
of the cleanest forms of energy known to

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mankind, and they've been trying to
curtail that as well, haven't they.

593
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.360
Well, they have. Yeah,
the green movement doesn't like natural gas because

594
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it gives off no other pollutants,
but it gives off carbon dioxide when it's

595
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burned. And by the way,
I sometimes ask audiences what fuel source has

596
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done the best to reduce air pollution
around the world, And the answer isn't.

597
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When it isn't solar, it's natural
gas. When you put natural gas

598
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in a home in place of either
burning wood or burning coal, we used

599
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.760
to have coal furnaces and homes around
this country. Yep, you reduce into

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our air particulates by one hundred to
one thousand times. I mean, it's

601
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very very big improvement and air.
But we've got that evil carbon dioxide which

602
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:09.519
is very very foolish, so they
want to be in gas as well.

603
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:16.119
CO two is not pollution, It
really isn't. That's it. CO two

604
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:22.840
is a necessary part of our atmosphere, of our biosphere. And the people

605
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.800
who are anti CO two are just
anti science period. Steve Gorham, You're

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00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.719
not anti science, and I appreciate
the information not in doctrination this morning.

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00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:37.199
The book is Green Breakdown and it's
available right now. Thank you, Steve,

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00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:43.239
Thank you, Geary Jeff On the
way Pastor Mark builts America at War

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twenty twenty four, twenty twenty six, Biblical references and more to what is

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going on right now in our country
and around the world. Ten twenty five

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at seven hundred WLW Men, are
you suffering from a reptile function or pe?

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The medical providers that Proactive Men's Medical
Center offer break Gary Jampman for scotch

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Loan on this Monday and we'll go
from mental health Monday to spiritual health Monday

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maybe this next segment. Next cast
is Pastor Mark Bilts. He is a

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founder and senior pastor at El Shadai
Ministries in Washington State. Well known popular

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speaker on the feasts of the Lord. Find out what that is if you

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don't know, authored four best selling
books and videos on the feasts that have

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gone global, and he has written
his latest book, America at War twenty

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twenty four, twenty twenty six.
Many people asking if these are the end

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times as prophesied in the Bible,
and I think those are valid questions for

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people of faith. Although no man
will know the hour nor the day,

622
00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:00.559
Mark Bilt says he is seeing some
signs, and the Bible does say you

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will see signs. Mark Bilts,
good morning and thank you for joining us.

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On seven hundred WLW. How are
you. I'm doing great. I

625
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just want to thank you so much
for having me on your program. Well,

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it's great to have you here.
So explain for folks who don't know

627
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the feasts of the Lord. Sure, the problem is English. In Genesis

628
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one fourteen, as it got created
the sun and the moon for signs and

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seasons. Well, the word seasons
is the same Hebrew word for feast,

630
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and this is why English is so
messed up. The word moaid actually means

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an appointed time. So what the
feasts of the Lord are referring to are

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passover, Pentecost, trumpets, yum
kapoor, the feasts of tabernacles. Those

633
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are the appointed times in history when
God was going to intersect human history and

634
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.840
we would be aware of it,
like he has a daytimer and they're scheduled.

635
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.679
Well, I know, I talked
to you before the full solar eclipse

636
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that we were all enamored by back
on April eighth, and you said this

637
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:14.440
was a sign again of one of
these seasons. Correct, exactly, And

638
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.840
many people were saying something was going
to happen on that day. I never

639
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:21.679
said that. Just like a train
signal is a warning, a train is

640
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coming. But you don't get attacked
by the signal, you get hit by

641
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the trains. And so things are
definitely coming down, and I see it

642
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:35.239
happening right before our eyes. In
America at War twenty four twenty six,

643
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you described this this conflict and America
really for the end times to be fulfilled,

644
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.800
or the prophecy's to be fulfilled,
America has to fall. Is that

645
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:57.559
that's what you're assuming or asserting.
I don't assume or assert anything, but

646
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:01.039
America isn't really mentioned too much in
the last days. But I think America

647
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:07.280
is going to fall just because she's
become morally corrupt, right right, So

648
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:15.760
what do you Was it any coincidence
at all to you that these so called

649
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:21.159
pro Palestinian protests sprung up on college
campuses across the country and they're still ongoing,

650
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:25.400
but they happened to coincide with passover? Was that any big coincidence to

651
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.440
you, Mark bilts Oh, I
truly think it is not. Really that

652
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I'm the only one in the whole
world. In my book, when I

653
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wrote six months ago, I said
I ran would attack Israel this April,

654
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and that's exactly what happened. And
that's in my book on page one twenty

655
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four, so I can see these
things that are happening. And a lot

656
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:51.159
of things you're hearing in the newspapers
now are all written in the book.

657
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But the thing about the college campuses, it's all outside influence. They'll arrest

658
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one hundred people and find sixty of
them even go to the college. The

659
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:07.039
biggest problem is Cutter. Believe it
or not. Cutter has been sending billions

660
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:15.800
of dollars to about one hundred different
universities, and so they're buying professorships who

661
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are teaching all about Islam. They
about one hundred American colleges and universities.

662
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When they received the money from Cutter, they illegally withheld information on about thirty

663
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:34.599
billion dollars in the undocumented contributions from
foreign governments. Okay, and so wow,

664
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that not only that I don't ever
heard of. Pearson Publishing. Pearson

665
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:46.159
Publishing is the number one global publishing
company for textbooks, be they nursing textbooks,

666
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:52.199
high school, college, grade school
textbooks, and Pearson is owned by

667
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:58.519
Cutter. The largest shareholders are Cutter, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Turkey,

668
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:04.280
and so they're influencing all the colleges, both by the professors as well as

669
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the textbooks even in the high schools
and peers of Publishing is the most anti

670
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Semitic publishing company there is. All
this an anti sentimism, excuse me,

671
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:21.800
anti sentematism, all kinds of begs
the question two that I wanted to ask

672
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.639
you, pastor Mark Builds is our
guests from Elshadai Ministries in Washington State.

673
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:30.519
What does the Bible say about those
who oppose Israel or those who would try

674
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:37.480
and defeat Israel. Well, Psalm
eighty three talks about the nations coming together,

675
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saying they want to make Israel be
no more in remembrance, but God

676
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:45.000
is going to destroy every one of
them. And the main reason why is

677
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.400
they're trying to prove from the Satanic
point of view, They're trying to prove

678
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that either God is impotent and he
can't fulfill his word, or he's a

679
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:59.440
liar. So God, it's not
saving Israel for Israel's sake, as for

680
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his own namesake. It says that
he's going to do this. He wants

681
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people to know he can fulfill his
word and that he keeps his promises.

682
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:13.400
So that's really what this final battle
is coming down to sitting trying to show

683
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:17.599
God isn't believable, you know,
or able, just like with the like

684
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.880
you were talking about earlier, the
Passover. Well, yeah, I mean

685
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:27.719
the reason that Satan was kicked,
that Lisper was kicked out of heaven was

686
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because he thought he was equal to
God. Correct, Yes, sure,

687
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and so this is just an extension
of that. I mean, I figure,

688
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:40.840
you get kicked out of heaven by
God, you'd kind of get the

689
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:50.039
clue you're not on par with the
man who made you. Exactly what's said

690
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.840
though, is many humans think they
are they become God, they think they

691
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:58.320
have the power, and it's it's
just insane the times that we live in.

692
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:06.400
Yeah, I'm just looking at Zechariah
fourteen too. Oh exactly, Behold

693
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.800
the day of the Lord cometh,
and thy spoil shall be divided in the

694
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midst of thee or I will gather
all nations against Jerusalem to battle, and

695
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:15.360
the city shall be taken, and
the house is rifled, and the women

696
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:20.320
vanished in half. The city shall
go forth into captivity, and the residue

697
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.079
of the people shall not be cut
off from the city. They're talking about

698
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:29.719
people rotting as they stand and you
know all these other really incredible things.

699
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So it's probably not a good idea
to be anti Semitic or to oppose Israel

700
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:43.280
if you care about your eternal soul, right yeah, oh your physical soul,

701
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:47.599
well yeah, because he will wipe
you out. The thing is most

702
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:55.119
people don't understand the threat of this
radical Islamic jihaut. The first thing they

703
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:59.199
do is the jihat of the hand
when they want to kill you. If

704
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:01.880
they can't do that is the g
hut of the mouth with protests. And

705
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:05.239
if they can't do that, it's
thee hout of the heart where they have

706
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.840
training camps and they train. Well, we've had the training camps. I

707
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.559
know a FBI agent personally, and
he said, there are terrorist training camps

708
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.880
all over the United States. That's
his job is watching over those. And

709
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:21.599
so that's the hat of the heart. Right now we're seeing the g hut

710
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.920
of the mouth with all the protests, which means we're going to have a

711
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:28.880
terrorist attack. This is exactly what
happened at nine to eleven. Well,

712
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.800
I mean, and don't you believe
that the poorous open border where we don't

713
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:38.360
know who's been coming into the country
through our southern border for three years now,

714
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:45.360
just unvetted and full scale like we've
never seen before as far as the

715
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:52.719
invasion goes, the evasion aspect aspect. Don't you believe that this is another

716
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:57.639
sign that this kind of terrorist attack
is about to happen in this country?

717
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:01.840
I mean, how much Hamas has
come in through the southern border. How

718
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:07.519
many Islamis who want to do us
US harm have coming through the southern border.

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01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.639
They say over one hundred nations have
come through, many from Iran,

720
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:16.039
from Afghanistan. But I just read
an article this morning that in the last

721
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:22.360
two days more Chinese military age men
have come in than in all of the

722
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.199
last three years. Yeah, in
the last two days, in the last

723
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:30.960
two days, yeah, we were
already at like twenty five twenty eight thousand

724
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:35.880
to this point. Crazy, So
yeah, it's not crazy. And they

725
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:39.159
want to take down our electric grid
and things like that. They don't need

726
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:44.039
a trojan horse to sneak in.
Our government's inviting them in and paying them

727
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:49.000
and taking care of their medical needs
and housing them and feeding them. It's

728
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:52.199
just totally insane. We are going
to see terrorist attacks on our soil this

729
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:57.519
year, all right, So you
predicted when you wrote the book America at

730
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.920
War twenty twenty four to twenty twenty
six, six months ago, you predicted

731
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:07.119
accurately the attack by Iran in the
month of April, which we saw the

732
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:13.519
drone attacks and the missile attacks on
Israel directly from Iran and their proxies.

733
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.960
So we saw that you predicted that
what else can we look for in the

734
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:22.079
next few months according to what you
have seen in your vision and what you

735
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:29.039
wrote about in the new book mark, I believe there's a real good chance.

736
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.400
And again I always tokenly say we're
nonprofit ministry. I don't claim to

737
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:38.079
be prophesied like you can. A
forecaster would forecast the hurricane five coming in

738
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:43.880
okay Man that being a two.
But I see this coming just from the

739
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:47.719
Bible, from bath from science,
studying patterns. I believe the Isaiah seventeen

740
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:53.000
war where Damascus is going to be
destroyed, could be fulfilled more than likely

741
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:55.840
this year, if not this year
next year. The same thing with the

742
01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.840
Psalm eighty three war. But I
see total during the elections right now.

743
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:07.320
Even the Counselor for Relations wrote an
article about how we could have mass chaos

744
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:12.199
around our elections but not only that, not just between the right and left.

745
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:16.000
I think we're going to see more
problems between the pro Israel pro Palestinians

746
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.440
this year on our soil, and
then we're going to see more problems between

747
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.960
the anti immigrants and the immigrants.
We are so fractured on so many levels.

748
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:29.199
And what's amazing is how you can
tell this is more satanic than anything,

749
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:37.159
because why would so many of the
lesbian gay people stick with Islam in

750
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:44.119
hating Israel. When would they know
that Islamists will kill all the homosexuals but

751
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.599
they side with them on the situation
with Israel. This just shows you that

752
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:52.360
it's total just ignorant and bias against
the God of Israel. Oh yeah,

753
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:58.159
you know what, You're flying the
Palestinian flag, whatever that is, and

754
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:03.360
just keep in mind that your pride
flag would not fly in Iran or any

755
01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:10.239
Islamis country. They threw gay and
lesbian people off roofs, they put them

756
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:14.719
to death. Right you want to
talk about don't ask, don't tell,

757
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:18.039
Well, you better not tell if
you're an Islamis nation, and yet you're

758
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:28.039
supporting this push of anti Semitism and
the pro Islam message. It's crazy,

759
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:32.000
It's crazy. Yeah, it's absolutely
crazy. And what people need to understand.

760
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.119
The Hebrew word for Hamas is violence. That's exactly what it is,

761
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:41.039
and that's why God destroyed the world
with the flood. And Amelek. We

762
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:45.760
know what Hamas did to the Israelis
on October seventh. Ammelek in Hebrew means

763
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:53.920
a people group who chops up bodies. That's what it means. Amelek for

764
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:58.159
no reason attacked Israel when they came
out of Egypt. They weren't attacking them

765
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:02.239
for land. They didn't have any, you know, and so or possessions.

766
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:05.320
Really, so we see it's just
a demonic attack. And that's where

767
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:10.639
we're coming right too. Right now, this is I believe. Now I'm

768
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:13.960
saying I believe. I'm not prophesying, but I think there's a good chance

769
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:20.639
of tribulation could start uh in about
five years, okay, So so yeah,

770
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:25.920
everybody who's predicted to the end of
the world so far has been wrong,

771
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:30.400
Mark, so we'll go with that. I know, I know you're

772
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:36.119
not you're not predicted. You're not
predicted another thousand years. Well, yeah,

773
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:42.280
because when when this is all done, when the tribulations are done,

774
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:45.119
Jesus comes back in rules for a
thousand years, right exactly, So I

775
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:48.920
don't preach the end of the world. All right, Well, listen,

776
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:53.239
it's it's good to talk to you. Interesting stuff, especially in light of

777
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:58.159
everything that is going on, and
it's clear that we are reaching some kind

778
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.599
of tipping point. Pastor Mark Bilts
from Elshudi Ministries in Washington State. You

779
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:06.199
can how can people find out more? Mark? Yeah, well they can

780
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:11.800
go to a website EESM dot us. They can get my book on Amazon

781
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.960
dot com as well. All right, It's America at War twenty twenty four

782
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:20.960
to twenty twenty six by Pastor Mark
Builts our guests this morning. Back in

783
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:27.559
just a moment when you're feeling overwhelmed
and tired, I'm here. It's like

784
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.280
my favorite slippers, warm and comfy, and you may be feeling beaten,

785
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:34.119
like a birthday pinont. Willy always
makes me feel better. But my friend

786
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:38.239
Willy is here to heal. I'd
like to make him a thank you sandwich.

787
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.440
Raise your head, open your ears
like a blt or tune on rye,

788
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:46.199
and hear my mighty words of hope. Brick Cunningham Today at twelve noon

789
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:51.320
on seven hundred W L W.
Marty brought them in here for Trash State.

790
01:06:51.400 --> 01:07:02.360
Menzelle, the leader in Last Why, yelled to me and that was

791
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:10.519
the first time many people heard Billy
J. Kramer and the Dakota's nineteen sixty

792
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:15.480
three was it? Yeah, And
he is back and he's still here.

793
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:18.719
He's still doing what he loves to
do. And I think that's so cool

794
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:23.679
because I'm getting to do what I
love to do, which is interview people

795
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:27.000
like Billy J. Kramer, Gary
Jeff Walker as we continue here on seven

796
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.039
hundred WLW. And I've looked forward
to this. When our friend Jeff Perholtz,

797
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:34.519
who's been working with you on your
new album Billy, mentioned that you

798
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:38.440
were going to be in town and
we had a chance to do this,

799
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:43.039
I was just like blown over.
Billy Kramer. Really, I get to

800
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:47.719
interview Billy Kramer. Very very cool. This was the early stage of what

801
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:53.079
became the British invasion. You were
obviously way bigger in the UK than you

802
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:57.000
were in the US, but you
had hits here too, and you had

803
01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:01.760
the benefit of some pretty pretty prolific
songwriters. We'll get into that in a

804
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.280
moment, but how are you.
I'm very well, thank you I'm nice

805
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:10.760
to be here. Yeah, what
brings you to America this time? Well,

806
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.119
I've lived in America for many years
now, Okay, you know I

807
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:17.319
lived in America for like thirty six
thirty seven years, all right, So

808
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.239
what brings you to town? Then? I came to town to work with

809
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:29.199
Jeff Perholtz her Holts, my friend
Jeff her Holes. That's what I came

810
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:33.199
to town for. So how did
you get hooked up with Jeff? I

811
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:42.560
was doing a cruise last year,
about a year ago, and they they'd

812
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.960
linked me. It's all right.
They tied me up with Jeff, and

813
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:54.119
I came to Cincinnati and rehearsed for
the cruise with Jeff a studio, and

814
01:08:54.159 --> 01:09:00.159
then we did a cruise together.
And I was going to Abby Road to

815
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:06.760
to celebrate sixty years in show business
on my atheist birthday, and I I

816
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.920
have some fire with Jeff and his
wife, Missy, and I invited them

817
01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.800
to a couple of long sibyll They're
wonderful people. I've known him for about

818
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:18.119
twenty five years and actually hadn't seen
him for about twenty years until we met

819
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:23.079
in a parking lot and for the
first time in twenty years and he just

820
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:27.000
mentioned working with you, and I
said, really, Billy J. Kramer,

821
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:30.720
that's so cool. And I said, well, is there any chance

822
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:34.359
since he's going to be in town
we could get together. And here we

823
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:42.000
are. So it's coming on sixty
years since you first appeared on the Ed

824
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:47.720
Sullivan Show. Sixty years June seventh, June seventh, the year of the

825
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:54.359
Great British Invasion. Yes, June
seventh was when I was on The Sullivan

826
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:59.600
Show. And it's come by very
quickly. What do you remember about that

827
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:03.520
night? Specifically? I was very
nervous. I remember, you know,

828
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:11.399
funny enough, it's it's a bit
scary to think that, you know,

829
01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:15.279
you know, you stand there in
front of a camera and realize that there's

830
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:19.479
going to be seventy million people looking. It's a bit of a scary thought.

831
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:25.039
So I'll be honest with you.
I I did the rehearsal Joe on

832
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:28.479
the day and then I went back
to the hotel and I timed it that

833
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:30.840
I just went back and just about
time to walk on and do it.

834
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:35.079
So you were managed by Brian Emstein
as I was who managed the Beatles out.

835
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:41.119
He's saying many other acts right at
that period in popular music in Great

836
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:46.000
Britain and how did that happen?
How did you get together with Brian?

837
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:54.760
And it came about where there was
a local paper, Mersey Beat, that

838
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:58.600
all the young kids used to buy. You know, I was very very

839
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:03.880
popular music paper and there was a
popularity poll and it was you know,

840
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:10.800
at the time, I think it's
about four hundred bands around Liverpool and I

841
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:15.359
came second in the popularity pool to
the Beatles, and that's not a bad

842
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:19.600
runner up. I was during second
with a guy called Lee Kurs and the

843
01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:25.920
All Stars, and then you know, I was doing shows with the Beatles.

844
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:30.199
I was opening for the Beatles as
if it's certain shows. And then

845
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:32.880
when I came second, there was
like they had this show. It's like

846
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:39.920
a big showcase and we all got
got a price. And I remember Brian

847
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:45.720
there because he he'd he'd given a
tour of Scotland for the highest place non

848
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:50.399
professional and I declined it because I
was I was at the time. I

849
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:56.720
was I was training to be an
engineer. Right, you were a railroad

850
01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:59.479
engineer, right, you know,
No, I was. You know,

851
01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:02.039
people when you say I was an
engineer on the railroad, people think that

852
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:05.560
you drove trains. I didn't drive
trains. I took them to pieces and

853
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:09.680
maintained and put them back together.
Okay, that was the kind of work

854
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:14.159
I was doing. I was,
you know, I was actually about to

855
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:18.800
leave Liverpool and go to a place, go Crew for a year, which

856
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:23.000
to me, i'd been there doing
gigs and I didn't fancy the idea of

857
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.560
going there for a year. But
I was. I was about to pack

858
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:29.479
up the music business altogether, because
part of the train was you went to

859
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:34.479
Crew for a year to rolls Royce. And I was about I told the

860
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:39.239
guys in the band was I was
going to pack it all in. And

861
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:43.199
then Brian came about about a month
before I was going to go. Brian

862
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:48.520
came along and offered me offers and
management. Well, tell me about obviously

863
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:56.680
through your association with Brian Epstein,
how how met the Beatles. Yeah,

864
01:12:56.720 --> 01:13:00.880
Well, and the fact that they
gave you songs. They were so prolific

865
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.319
at writing songs. They had a
lot of songs that they never recorded and

866
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:08.880
they kind of threw you those bits
and you turn them into hits. That

867
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:12.520
that's wonderful. That tell me.
Tell me about John and Paul and what

868
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.520
it was like to work with them
or to you know, open for them.

869
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:20.880
What was that so open for them? You know, it's it's more

870
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.560
when I look back now, it's
more of a big deal to me now

871
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:27.520
than what it was then. I
think, you know, it was like

872
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:32.359
when you share dressing rooms with people
and people share your hairbrush and stuff like

873
01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:35.880
that. You don't you know,
to me, it was you know,

874
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:39.760
I mean I never thought anything about
it, you know, Paul McCarney,

875
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.680
like what I did that Christmas show. I remember, we used to do

876
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.520
this like pancake makeup, just to
slup. We used to call it slap

877
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.800
and they go, well, can
I go, where's your slap? Believe

878
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:53.920
I kind of buy you a hairbrush? And you know it's like I never

879
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:58.880
looked at it. You know.
The funny thing is I never eat all

880
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:02.079
the times of the Big many songs. I never even asked for an autograph,

881
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:05.479
right, No, I just don't
think. Well, if you'd have

882
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:10.239
known what we all know now,
I probably would have saved some of Paul's

883
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:13.479
hair from my hair brush. Yeah, you know what I mean, you

884
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.640
know, but I never thought about
it. Yeah, you know, it's

885
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.880
like, you know, people say
to me, like when I did like

886
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:25.760
set Lennon McCartney songs and the lyrics
of that that they've written out by hands.

887
01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:28.920
I never I just like roll them
up in the ball and throw No

888
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:31.520
Bay's paper bit. I never nobody
thought it was going. I don't know,

889
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:35.439
I never thought about it. So
tell me about this new work that

890
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:41.039
you're doing now. You you've continued
to record and obviously play all these years.

891
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:44.199
Yes, and you and I were
talking about what a what a blast

892
01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:48.720
it is to do what you've always
wanted to do in life. Yes,

893
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.439
you know, I was seven years
old and I wanted to be on the

894
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:57.319
radio, and from nineteen until now, you know, I've been blessed enough

895
01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:00.199
to be able to do that.
And you've been in music now for this

896
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:03.319
sixty year period. Well, I
mean I feel very blessed. And you

897
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:06.199
know, like I send to you
earlier, I've never considered this to be

898
01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:11.680
a job. You know, we
don't get a gold watch after so many

899
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:17.439
years. It's something It's like I
remember my sister, you know, she's

900
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:20.359
older than me, she's ninety four, and she said to me, like

901
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:25.399
why do you do all this?
You know, you know, why how

902
01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:27.960
come you know you make these records? And you do this and you do

903
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:32.199
that, And I've said it's because
it's what I do. I've told people

904
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:38.680
for years, Billy that my retirement
plan is death. You know what do

905
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:41.279
people ask you? Are you going
to hang it up? You know?

906
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:44.479
I mean, I'll be honest with
her. We've put a tremendous amount of

907
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:47.439
work into this album, you know, and I'm delighted with it. I

908
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:53.600
said to Jeff yesterday, what are
we going to do next? That's right,

909
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:56.880
you're thinking about the next project.
He said to me, Let's get

910
01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:00.119
this one out of the work first. But that's the way I yeah,

911
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:04.600
all right, exactly, you know. I mean it's like, you know,

912
01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:08.199
I'm azy, and people go,
you know, why you're still doing

913
01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:11.239
this just because it's what I do. Well, look pretty damn good for

914
01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:13.840
Adie, I'll tell you that,
Billy. Thank you probably better than I

915
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:17.920
look at sixty three. Well,
you know, do you attribute that to

916
01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:23.319
clean living? Yues? I mean, I'll be honest with you. I

917
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:26.439
mean I wasn't always clean living.
I used to drink. I used to

918
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:30.520
drink and smoke and stay out late
and all those things, oh the stuff.

919
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:33.159
But I quit all lots of fools
of years ago. Really, I

920
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:38.159
quit all lots of forty years ago. Yes, well that's a tribute to

921
01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:43.479
you and also a testament to what
that kind of life can give you,

922
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.920
this longevity. There's a lot of
different pretty famous people playing on this album

923
01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:51.000
too. You want to talk about
some of the sidemen that you've got working

924
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:56.600
with you, Well, there's Steve
Hawley. Yeah, you know, it

925
01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:04.119
was a great trummer. It was
with Paul Lawrence Jupa playing guitar. Alan

926
01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:11.159
Thompson it's a bass player with Jess
Hotel. Wow. You know I met

927
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:14.760
Ian Anderson once? Yeah? Have
you ever met Ian? No? I

928
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.039
met Ian he was doing something.
He was in town, doing something across

929
01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:25.279
the country called the Rubbing Elbows Tour
And it was so neat because we were

930
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:28.800
on a stage at music Hall and
there was a big couch in front of

931
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:33.840
the band on stage, and Ian
had some local musicians who were playing the

932
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:38.880
songs with him, and he'd do
a song and then we we'd sit and

933
01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:41.960
do an interview in front of the
audience about the next song and talk about

934
01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:44.319
then, and then he'd get up
and perform again. It was a very

935
01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:48.439
cool experience, you know, it's
that is a I do similar thing.

936
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:56.720
Now, do you where I do
this? Acoustic songs and stories, and

937
01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:01.800
I have somebody like a DJ interviewed
me and asked me questions about different songs

938
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.399
how I acquired them. Keep me
in mind the next time you're in Cincinnati,

939
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:10.960
Billy, I will you know songs
that I acquired, how I recorded

940
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.920
them, and hey, stories about
them, and I talk about that and

941
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:18.520
then I sing the songs. Yeah. So were you ever married? I've

942
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:26.000
been married twice. Yeah, yeah, I was married. I always say,

943
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:29.880
but all insightles, so make one
mistake. Yeah, you know I

944
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:31.000
didn't get I'll be very honest with
you. I didn't get it right the

945
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:36.520
first time. Neither did I the
second. My second marriage was tremendous.

946
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:41.199
I was married to a girl from
Long Island, New York, Ronnie.

947
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:45.239
We were married for over thirty years. Unfortunately she passed away. I'm sorry

948
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:48.279
to hear that. Uh. So
you say you've been in the United States

949
01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:54.239
now for thirty six years living here. Yes, what prompted you to move

950
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:57.960
from me? Huh? I met
you met her? I met her.

951
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:01.840
I was I was over doing it
to all in the United States and I

952
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:08.920
met Ronnie. Aren't the girls wonderful
on tour. Billy. No, it's

953
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:11.920
strange because you know, I think
we had an argument the first time I

954
01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.760
met she was to get it out
of the way. She was into like

955
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:19.600
photography. That's how I met her. She'd come to take some. So

956
01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:25.920
that's another thing you had in common
with Paul Linda, Right, So I

957
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:30.479
did you keep touch with the boys
and the initial I'll be honest with that.

958
01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:34.680
In the early days I told with
the Beatles a lot, and then

959
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:38.159
you know, I'll be honest with
her. I got to a point where,

960
01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:42.640
you know, I didn't want to
hang on to the hotels. You

961
01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:45.520
know. I used to stay at
this place in Russell Square in London,

962
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:49.079
the President Hotel, and I used
to see Neil Aspinall and male Evans.

963
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:53.079
Then they go, you come to
polls to night and Saint Johnson Wood and

964
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:56.439
I was calling, No, I'm
taking some chick out, some dancer,

965
01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:00.920
you know, good for you.
And I'll be honest with I sort of

966
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:05.760
like backdazz. I think you know
I also have a life, sure you

967
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:10.159
know, oh absolutely, And that's
that's what I mean. From time to

968
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.399
time over the years, I've seen
the Beatles, you know, the last

969
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:16.319
time Paul came to Long Island.
I got together with him, but I'm

970
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:18.680
not going to call him up every
day of the week. And that's confirmed.

971
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:20.000
Oh no, no, no,
no, no, no, I

972
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:26.319
didn't. I didn't think that he's
driven crazy. You know, I'll be

973
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:30.079
honest with you. He's probably crazy
counting as mine, you know, I

974
01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:32.840
was. I was with a lady
friend at Christmas time. We were going

975
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:36.720
through some big department store and I
said, you know, Paul can't do

976
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:41.000
this. Yeah, you're right.
I thought, you know, I wouldn't

977
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:44.800
want that. I like going places, I like going stores, and I

978
01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:48.399
like, you know, I like
being in show business. I like performing,

979
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:51.680
I like making music. But would
you like to be somewhat anonymous when

980
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:56.479
you're rist to me, I'm like, I always say that Billy J.

981
01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:00.439
Crame is someone that I take out
of a suit bag. So you've got

982
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:02.399
a new single coming from this new
album. What is the title of this?

983
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:05.560
Well, we have a single after
the Moment we Are You with Me,

984
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:09.079
But there's a new one coming.
There's a new one coming which is

985
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:13.600
written by Mark Husson. Oh I
couldn't have done it without you. Well

986
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:15.840
again, the benefit of a pretty
darn good songwriter. You know, he's

987
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.279
a heck of a songwriter. I've
done a lot of shows with Mark.

988
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:23.359
I'm funny enough. When we were
like compiling what songs we're going to do

989
01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:30.439
Abby Road, I'd spoken to Mark
about a year before. We we had

990
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:34.399
talked about ideas and then I sort
of like made the list of ten songs.

991
01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:38.760
I thought it would be good to
do. And then a week or

992
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:42.039
two before he called me up and
he says, you know this song we

993
01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:45.880
were talking about by I said yeah, He said, well, I finished

994
01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:50.800
it, I'll send it to you
and it was so flipping good. I

995
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:55.039
thought, you know, what can
I take out? And puts this one

996
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:59.560
in? So the album though,
is debuting, correct? When does that

997
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.159
happen? It's going to come out
at the end of May. We can

998
01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:06.680
in view all right, and the
title of the album is are you with

999
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.680
Me? Well we are today and
it's been a joy. Thank you.

1000
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:15.119
It's been an absolute joy. So
you're gonna do videos and everything for the

1001
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:18.039
song? Yeah? We We did
a great video one. Jeff and I

1002
01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:25.279
went to Liverpool after we did the
Abby Road thing going and Jeff Conny did

1003
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:30.239
a great video which is a lot
of fun. Is there something about is

1004
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:33.560
there still something about the mystique about
Abbey Road Recording? There is there something

1005
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:39.159
to that, you know, is
it just a studio or is it something

1006
01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:41.399
else? There is something special about
it. But you know, I'll be

1007
01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:45.039
honest with you. I have we
had this wonderful party and my best day

1008
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:47.960
and everything there. But you know, it's like there was so much going

1009
01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:51.960
on. The only thing is I'll
be honest with that. Somebody came up

1010
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.840
to me and for us, what
does it feel like? And I looked

1011
01:22:55.840 --> 01:23:00.000
across them and remembered exactly where John
Lennon was when sat at the piano and

1012
01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:04.760
played Bad to Me and I call
your name, and where Paul played from

1013
01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:09.920
a window. And I'll keep you
satisfied, you know. Yeah, it

1014
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:15.920
is a bit like a bit melancholy, you know. Well, I love

1015
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:19.520
I love even the old stuff.
I mean, we started with the Bad

1016
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:24.199
to Me, which was your first
big one, and Little Children is a

1017
01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:28.000
fantastic song too, And I'm looking
forward to hearing the album Are You with

1018
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:32.159
Me by Billy J. Kramer comes
out end of May, first of June,

1019
01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:35.359
and we'll keep you posted, thank
you very much. Anything else,

1020
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:39.840
anything else, No, it's just
been a pleasure. It's been great to

1021
01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:45.520
be here in Cincinnati. It's being
wonderful to have met Jeff and Missy and

1022
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:49.560
do this album. They're very very
special people. Oh they're great people.

1023
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:55.239
And on top of that, they're
phenomenal musicians. See absolutely phenomenal, and

1024
01:23:55.279 --> 01:24:00.279
I just feel blessed to meet such
people. At this time. You need

1025
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:04.920
custom exterior or into seven hunderd WLW
and joining us for our last segment as

1026
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:11.079
we wrap things up. The guy
that used to be the host of sports

1027
01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:15.279
talk on the Big One, and
these days he does his talking on Fox

1028
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:20.960
Sports Radio. Fox Sports thirteen sixty
is a Sunday morning show that if you're

1029
01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:25.640
in the parking lot of the transmitter
you can get. You can also get

1030
01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:31.960
aired on Serious XM and you can
get it right now while it's hot.

1031
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:38.239
The fur Ball, Andy Furman,
how are you doing? You don unbelievable.

1032
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:40.960
I could have done the flying pig
during that break, you know that

1033
01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:45.079
really see you're killing me, killing
me hey, talk to the sales to

1034
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:49.079
break. Thank you for leading me
up to feature me at the end.

1035
01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:53.000
Everybody was my undercar today. But
I got a lot to get up my

1036
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:55.880
chest. As you know, I'm
so appreciative you put me on the air.

1037
01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:58.199
Right now, I'll tell you you
know, Andy, Andy, I

1038
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:02.239
thought you shaved your chest. No, really, how you don't get that

1039
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:05.680
close to me? Really, please
don't be looking. No one wants to

1040
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:09.279
know those facts. Really, I
want to move on. I want to

1041
01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:12.239
talk about football. But listen,
everybody talks about it is the sports.

1042
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:15.560
There's only sport that moves the needle
on talk radio, be it college football

1043
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:16.880
or NFL, so that people talk
football. But I want to go back

1044
01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:20.439
to the NFL draft. I want
to talk about not particular players that were

1045
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:24.159
drafted, but exactly what happened at
the draft. Now, I'll talk about

1046
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:28.399
the commissioner, Roger Goodell. Roger
Goodell has put these end zone messages in

1047
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.399
their end racism, right. I
mean, it's a beautiful thing. I

1048
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:33.319
hope it happens. I'd love to
see it happen. Okay, but if

1049
01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:35.880
you recall, and I think I
read this in the New York Post that

1050
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:41.520
prior to the opening of the NFL
Draft they had two national anthems. The

1051
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:46.560
unofficial Black national anthem. I don't
know what that is. Well, it

1052
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:50.479
was a pretty song with no nationalistic
patriotic concept, but a beautiful song.

1053
01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:57.000
And then of course the regular it's
not no lift every voice and sing or

1054
01:25:57.039 --> 01:25:59.880
whatever it's called, is no one's
national anthem. They made that up.

1055
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:03.840
That's Rodica del said, the national
anthem, the black national anthem. Yeah

1056
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:09.039
right, so we were back.
We're back to segregation again. Go ahead,

1057
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:13.640
exactly. And you could not conclude
that rogicdl supports racial segregations because he

1058
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:15.880
did that now here. Here's the
thing, this is what I want to

1059
01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:18.880
know. Should white people Should white
people stand for the Black national anthem or

1060
01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:23.239
what they be called racist if they
don't, And if you're a protester,

1061
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:27.359
what need do whites take and what
need do blacks take? I just want

1062
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:30.039
to know these because I ask you
or Roger Goodell is somebody what is happening?

1063
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.079
What's going on? The world has
gone nuts. I think he's gone

1064
01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:42.439
crazy. Rochicadell's part of it,
somebody else, because I'm not generally unless

1065
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.800
I'm there and the flag is in
front of me, then I'll stand for

1066
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:53.199
the national anthem, which is about
America, and America is about the United

1067
01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:57.800
States of America, not the divided
States of America. And if you're going

1068
01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:00.479
to divide it along racial lines,
and I'm not standing for any of that

1069
01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:05.640
nonsense. And it has nothing to
do with racism. Andy, look,

1070
01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:10.439
don't talk to me. Don't preach
to me. As Roger Well, you

1071
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:15.479
asked, you asked, what need
do you take? And I'm not going

1072
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:20.159
to take any knees because I'm not
wearing dads. Let me give you another

1073
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:24.920
question, if I may party,
would it be disrespectful that for white people

1074
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:28.199
not to stand for the black version
of the national anthem? Help me,

1075
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:30.479
help me on this. I'm afraid
to go to a football game now knowing

1076
01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:33.600
what to do. I don't know
what to do. Well, I don't

1077
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:39.720
know. I mean I might,
I might stand, uh to go get

1078
01:27:39.760 --> 01:27:43.560
something from the concession stand while it's
playing. I mean, I don't know.

1079
01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:48.000
Andy, Look, you're asking the
wrong person. I really don't know.

1080
01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:53.600
It's not just I don't know.
And I think you bring out some

1081
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:59.039
good questions. But again, the
national anthem, the Star Spangled banner is

1082
01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:03.279
in honor of the flag that is
a symbol of the United States of America.

1083
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:08.920
Is there a flag breaking away from
tyranny from the British rule? Well,

1084
01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.319
and again united is in the name
United States of America. We may

1085
01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:15.439
be very divided, and I'm not
going to stand for anything that may divide

1086
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:19.079
people even more than they already are. I guess that's my point. And

1087
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:25.680
is there a flag that flies during
lift every voice and sing? Well,

1088
01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:28.680
you know, honestly, maybe at
the next football game they play the Israelian

1089
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:30.640
national anthem? I don't know.
You know what I got, by the

1090
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:36.079
way, Hold on a second.
A couple of Saturdays ago, you called

1091
01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:43.199
into the Saturday Morning Show and asked
if because I had mentioned that I was

1092
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:46.439
tired of this nonsense and I was
going to get an Israeli flag to put

1093
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:51.560
alongside my American flag at my home
there in South Kate, Kentucky. And

1094
01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:57.039
you said, get you on too
if I do. And I offered to

1095
01:28:57.079 --> 01:28:58.760
do that, and you said,
no, no, I don't want to

1096
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:00.039
do that, or what are you? You have no room? But I

1097
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.600
gotta. I have a Ukrainian flag
out there with the USA, so you'll

1098
01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:08.119
have a Ukrainian but you're you're Jewish
and you won't have an Israeli flag.

1099
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:13.199
You're afraid, you're afraid. I
don't want to instigate anybody, you know,

1100
01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:15.680
I know in my heart of hearts, what I what I root for,

1101
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:17.960
and who I I've loved for.
I love everybody and every people take

1102
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:21.640
us. But that's like putting a
red flag in front of a bull.

1103
01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:25.720
That's what you're doing when you do
that. All right? And is your

1104
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.479
flag up? Now? Is it
up? Yes? Do you? I

1105
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:30.520
mean, do you have to?
Do you have tons of Let me ask

1106
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.039
you. Do you have a little
betting over and on how long it stays

1107
01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:39.199
up there? That's been up there
for the whole weekend? It came.

1108
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:43.520
It came like Friday. Okay,
okay, well fin Friday. I do

1109
01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:46.560
you have tons of Do you do
you have tons of pro Hamas protesters in

1110
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:50.720
Florence where you live? Andy,
I don't know. I don't ask and

1111
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.520
I don't care. I live and
let live. That's what I do so

1112
01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:58.720
far, So far, Organ Soros
hasn't paid anybody to come to Southgate and

1113
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:03.600
protest in front of my house,
or nothing happens, I'm taking the over

1114
01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.640
under. By Saturday, that flag
will be gone, right, it'll be

1115
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:11.000
ripped up over a Nazi swasta gone
there. Okay, hope not. I

1116
01:30:11.079 --> 01:30:14.119
pray not, but you know that's
basically the course of action. But let's

1117
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:16.880
talk to something, talk about something
a little more life arting and it's close

1118
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:20.079
to your heart, which is the
state of Iowa. State of Iowa.

1119
01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:28.079
Let's talk about your girl, Caitlin
Clark and in the preseason of the w

1120
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:31.279
n B A and then I'm glad
you brought that because for all her stats,

1121
01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:34.239
for all the records, what she
has done, uplifting women's sports and

1122
01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:38.600
uplifting you know, the w NBA, for everything that she has done,

1123
01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:42.880
her legacy will be remembered, not
so much for basketball on the court,

1124
01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:45.600
It'll be remembered for what she will
be doing. For the travel aspect of

1125
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:50.399
the w NBA. They don't travel
on charter planes. They travel commercial.

1126
01:30:50.680 --> 01:30:54.840
That's what they do. And in
Dallas on Friday night, prior to the

1127
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:58.239
game, there's a preseason game in
Dallas. She was at the Dallas Airport.

1128
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:00.199
Thank goodness, she has a security
person. She was a near riot

1129
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:04.279
trying to get a picture, putting
phones in her face for pictures and things

1130
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:09.319
like that. It was disgusting.
And they're flying commercial. I don't think

1131
01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:14.159
any professional teacher five commercials. Is
specifically the fact that she flied charter when

1132
01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:15.479
she was at the University of Iowa. So I got to believe down the

1133
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:20.479
road that's her legacy. The WNBA
will eventually fly charter thanks to Caitlin.

1134
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:25.520
Do you think that's going to be
the legacy of Caitlin and the WNBA is

1135
01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:30.119
that they fly charter? Now do
the Fever could fly charter? Maybe?

1136
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:36.159
I don't know about the mystic ruling
in the WNBA teams cannot fly charter and

1137
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:40.800
the ownership of the New York Liberty
in Brooklyn at one point in time a

1138
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:42.960
year ago. So we're gonna fly
charter and the league said, no,

1139
01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:45.439
you can't because it's an advantage because
no other team can nor will. And

1140
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:48.039
then I'm permitted to that. Probably
don't have the money to do so much.

1141
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:50.880
I mean, that's that's a big
issue. That's a big issue,

1142
01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:57.680
is that the w NBA, for
all of you know, our equality and

1143
01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:00.439
for all that you know, we
we think that women should be in the

1144
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:04.720
same par with men in professional basketball. It simply ain't. So just like

1145
01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:12.119
even the National Women's Soccer League is
not going to generate what the the US

1146
01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:17.199
women's team did as far as interest
and ratings and dollars. Uh, there's

1147
01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:25.960
just the l the UFL. They
should have called they should they should have

1148
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:30.920
called the UFL. The WTF.
What the football that? This is all

1149
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:35.600
this This league only exists for the
gamblers. That's the only reason you would

1150
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:41.640
have a Springs Football League. There
is no interest in the UFL, just

1151
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:45.199
like there has been very little interest
in the w n b A compared to

1152
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.800
the NBA until now with Kaylin Clark
right, it's a developmental league, the

1153
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:51.760
UFO for players that hopefully will get
that chance to one day play in the

1154
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:56.800
NFL. That's basically what is a
developmentally But I'm glaid it. The comparison

1155
01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:00.840
aspets up there because there was an
article in The National last week comparing and

1156
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:03.359
hold your breath on this, Caitlin
Clarke to Larry Bird. It was bad

1157
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:08.800
enough. It was bad enough that
compared her statistics to Pete Marraviage, which

1158
01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:12.119
is so ridiculous because ay, when
Pete played there was no three point goals.

1159
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:15.880
But number two you made a great
point just now. They don't compare

1160
01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:21.079
the MLS stats to the Women's National
Soccer League. They don't compare the National

1161
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:25.479
Hockey League stats to the Women's National
Hockey League, which there is one.

1162
01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:29.800
They don't compare crossover stats men and
women's stats in least, why are they

1163
01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:34.560
comparing stats from men's college basketball to
women's college Well, I mean Andy no

1164
01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:41.800
me. When there was an article
comparing her to Larry Bird. It wasn't

1165
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:47.640
about stats matching stats, I hope, but style. I said this watching

1166
01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:51.960
Caitlin at the end of the season
and then threw out the NCAA Women's Tournament.

1167
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:57.399
I said, she plays like Larry
Bird because she has that total.

1168
01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.600
I said that in that matter,
either they comparing in the fact that she

1169
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:04.000
has elevated the league like when Magic
Johnson and Larry Bird came. Look,

1170
01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:08.680
when they first started in the league, the NBA's games were not even on

1171
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:12.680
live TV. They're on CBS at
eleven o'clock on tape. So they created

1172
01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:15.880
the image. They created the forefront
of what the league is right now because

1173
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:19.920
the league was a bit shape back
then. But her style of her style

1174
01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:26.399
of play, the outside shooting,
touch and the full court vision, which

1175
01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:30.000
is exactly what Larry Bird had.
He could. He was a great passer.

1176
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:33.279
You know, you think about Larry
Bird scoring and he could. But

1177
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:39.119
he was an incredible team player and
an incredible passer. From anywhere on the

1178
01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:43.119
court. And that's what Caitlin Clark
demonstrated to me. And I made the

1179
01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:45.800
comparison myself the first time I really
watched your player. Said, God,

1180
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:50.159
she plays the game. She's like
a female Larry Bird more than pistol p

1181
01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:54.479
She's a tremendous player. I mean, what she has done to the game

1182
01:34:54.479 --> 01:34:56.479
is she's did it to me.
Because look, I don't go to many,

1183
01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:00.199
if any, NKU Xavier or UC
women's basketball games. However, I

1184
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:04.159
got in my car and I drove
to Bloomington, Indiana when Indiana played Iowa

1185
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:06.760
this year to see her play.
And I did, and I met the

1186
01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:10.560
coach and I went to the postgame
news conference, and it was a wonderful

1187
01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:13.640
experience. I really did. She's
a wonderful young lady and a great player.

1188
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:15.479
And she's a benefit of the game
of basketball, be at men or

1189
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:18.399
women. She's just a great player. Well, you don't get it.

1190
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.960
You don't get out in the public
much because you're afraid of being mob because

1191
01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.439
people know who you are, and
and you're I went to Bloomington, they

1192
01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:28.800
don't know me and Bloomy, Yeah, you're a timid. You're a timid

1193
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:31.960
little rabbit though generally, and you're
afraid because you know that there'll be a

1194
01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:35.600
throng of people within a couple of
minutes, and knowing that Andy Furman is

1195
01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:41.399
in the house, and they'll be
tearing at your clothes, They'll be asking

1196
01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:47.279
for autographs and pictures, and it'll
be total bedlam. I speaking about that,

1197
01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:50.920
and leave my phone number to management
over there, because obviously they need

1198
01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:54.439
some fill ins if from time to
time. I'm ready, I'm ready,

1199
01:35:54.439 --> 01:36:00.239
willing and able. I see,
I'm fighting for fill ins every day.

1200
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:03.680
So why am I gonna suggest someone
that might take some time away from me.

1201
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:06.439
I need, I need the guidtis, I need the cabbage Andy.

1202
01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:11.760
I got to have the extra work. I mean today today is probably I

1203
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:14.359
don't. I can tell him I
don't. So this way they'll take me

1204
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:18.279
over you. Today's probably gonna pay
my grocery bill for a day or two.

1205
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:20.720
To me, no one cares.
No one really cares. No.

1206
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:27.079
I know you care because you care
deeply about everyone that you know. I

1207
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:29.000
do have a heart. People don't
think I do it, but I do.

1208
01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:30.279
You know, let me run this
by s think about money. You

1209
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:33.560
know, when the Pittsburgh Steelers come
to town. What are the season ticket

1210
01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:36.840
holders of this entire Bengals do?
They sell the tickets to those crazy people

1211
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.960
that come here from Pittsburgh. They
get big money and that money usually pays

1212
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for their season tickets for the next
season because it's all about the cash.

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Yeah, sure, not a big
deal. Let me tell you what happened

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Game six. The New York Picks
are playing the seventy six ers in Philadelphia.

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The ownership the ownership of the Philadelphia
seventy six is brought out about two

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thousand tickets, So New York nick
fans couldn't come down for New York to

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make the arena in Philadelphia Madison Square
Gardens South. That was a bush move,

1218
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bush move that says they went public
with it. Don't go public with

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it. When I read that,
I should How low can you be?

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And then it's still be speaking of
going public with things you shouldn't go public

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with. What do you think about, uh? South Dakota Governor Christy Noman

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her book going public with the fact
that she killed a dog because it wasn't

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behaving right? How stupid is that? And what does she do? Why

1224
01:37:26.319 --> 01:37:29.760
shouldn't you bring it to some ASPCA? How stupid? Is that are people?

1225
01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:31.159
You know what? The problem with
social media it makes you in your

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mind you think you're a star.
People love to get on there and tell

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01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:36.560
their story. Well, this is
a book. This is a book she

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01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:42.319
wrote. She chose, she chose
to tell this story in a book.

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01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:47.479
What does she trying to prove that
she's a she's a humanitarian by that?

1230
01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:50.479
I don't know what is she proving
that she's an idiot? Well, you

1231
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:55.279
know what, in other countries they
eat dogs, Andy, So it's just

1232
01:37:55.359 --> 01:38:00.039
this country and our personification of animals. Uh, it's it's just we're crazy

1233
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.600
with our animals. Do you have
animals, Andy, Well, I've had.

1234
01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:08.960
I've had four pugs and my last
one passed a year ago. It's

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01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:12.920
a terrible situation when they go,
and I told my wife I don't want

1236
01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:15.560
to do it again. I just
I can't. I love them, I

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01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:17.960
love being with them. They're great
pets and they're just comforting. They really

1238
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:21.279
are, and they're part of the
family. But when they go, it's

1239
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:24.680
the worst. It's like a relative, it's like a family member. So

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01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:27.760
I'm not doing it again. I
may get goldfish, they get some fish.

1241
01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.399
They will do that. This way
when they die and just flush them

1242
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:36.520
down the toilet. You're the You're
the Christy Gnome of aquariums. That's what

1243
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:40.640
you are. Hey, listen,
fur Ball, it's always good to talk

1244
01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:44.560
to you. You always have some
really really weird takes, and I like

1245
01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:49.640
that really. Today it's the the
black national anthem versus the national anthem.

1246
01:38:50.119 --> 01:38:54.319
I don't think it's so weird.
And I don't know in which need If

1247
01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:57.560
you're going to take a knee during
either one, which need do you take

1248
01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:02.600
depending on well, okay, right, twenty seconds. It's such a weird,

1249
01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:05.720
weirdo story. But I don't know
why the mainstream media has not touched

1250
01:39:05.720 --> 01:39:09.920
on that because they were all covering
the NFL Draft. That's all I'll say.

1251
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:12.520
I'll leave it at that, all
right. And you think the NFL

1252
01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:16.119
Draft should be in Cincinnati very soon? Yes, yes, it will be

1253
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:20.600
great. I'd love it, all
right, fantastic. The only problem is

1254
01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:24.680
that that means we've got to welcome
in Roger Goodell. We've got to take

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01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:27.279
a break. Red's round up.
Thanks for tuning in. I'll be back

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on Friday. Okay, ladies,
The Mother's Day Complaint Conference is open.

1257
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:35.199
Does anyone have any grievances. Screw
the breakfast in bad pancakes. Make Mommy

1258
01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:41.000
some mimosas. I still have the
flowers they gave me last year because they

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01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.600
were plastic. No, what does
mommy want on her special day? Three

1260
01:39:44.640 --> 01:39:47.800
little words? Leave me alone?
Listen up. If Daddy gives Mommy another

1261
01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:54.479
vacuum for Mother's Day, Daddy's sleeping
on the couch. Yeah, Mother's Day

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01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:59.000
Sunday. Let's try to get it
right this year. An important reminder from

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