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Speak and he's eighteen years old,
or reminds us of course, and what

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happened with tomorrow Hamlin and with summer
conditioning underway, with temperatures in the upper

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nineties, no person, no person
in the history of our community. It

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is better positioned to talk about conditioning
and what to do, what not to

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do as apparent what can you stop
what can't you stop? Than Doctor Timothy

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Kremchek and Doc Hollywood. Welcome again
to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Doc,

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first of all, can you explain
to the American people what is cardiac

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arrest? Well, there's a whole
lot of different definitions or cardiac arrest,

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but the bottom line is is when
the heart is unable to pump enough blood

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to the rest of the body,
whether it be the brains or the major

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organs, and it just can't do
it, and so it goes into it

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just stops working, It stops beating, you know, consistently, goes into

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what we call it with me,
is so the heart just stops working properly,

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and then it becomes a huge problem
when you lose that blood supply to

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the brain and you know, the
other major organs, and so you know,

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we we think that people having heart
attacks and their seventies, eighties and

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nineties, what have you, coronary
arter disease from smoking or eating habits.

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It becomes a real problem when we've
got our eighteen year old kids or as

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uh you know DeMar Hamlin love we
saw last year it gets hit in the

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chest, and you know, it
brings a huge awareness to all of us

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that have kids and grandkids and that
are out there playing sports and wondering is

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this safe? Why is this becoming
more common? You know, how do

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we prevent it? Or can we
prevent it? Or how do we diagnose

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it? So you know, it's
it's becoming a major problem. Well,

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one brings to mind what happened with
COVID nineteen, and that is, uh,

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you're like a dock and you've spent
your life in it. But I

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believe that Damar Hamlin and I believe
Lebron James Jr. Both had COVID nineteen

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shots. And I've had one or
two friends who have had cardiac unuse,

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your cardiac conditions having and they were
vaccinated. Is there any desire by medical

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authorities to do copious research as to
whether COVID nineteen or the vaccine is causing

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more of these events? Or can
I even ask the question without being put

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down one? No, No,
I think there's there's no question. I

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think there's still a lot of questions
about number one, what does COVID do?

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What is it due to your body? And number two what are the

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vaccines do? There is there are
some opposing opinions. I think research is

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being done. The question is,
you know, is the booster shot as

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the COVID shot? Can it cause
more problems than it can help you?

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Is the COVID once you get it, can it cause this problem? We

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all know that car problems, you
can't get cardiac in long pulmonary problems from

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COVID, and or we think the
booster. But in these particular cases,

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I will tell you that when the
barn Hamlin got hurt, he actually got

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got hit right in the chest.
And it's a very very known entity.

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When you get hit in the chest
and all of a sudden your card goes

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into an arrhythmi, it's called blanket
on it. Now the commoo cordis in

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other words, you've seen and I've
seen baseball players you get hit in the

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chest. A picture that the ball
gets battered and he get hit in the

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chest and you go into cardiac arrest. In his particular case, it was

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a traumatic event that can happen in
any sport at any time. I think

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when we're talking about somebody like Bronnie
James, there are entities and we see

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these and basketball players, tall thin
kids that can have what we call cardiac

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myopathy or and these are these are
congenital problems that you really cannot diagnose to

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a routine physical examination. And what
happens is their heart is just congenerally thick

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and so it can't pump Once you
start really exercising a lot, you cannot

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it cannot pumping up blood out.
And why did it happen? Now?

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Who knows? Is it related to
COVID? Who knows? The big question

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now is that parents are going to
ask as my child's safe. And you

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know, when you do your routine
physical exams for these kids going on to

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play sports and say high school,
the routine the exam doesn't it rarely ever

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picks up any of these problems.
Ye, doc, I can recall when

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we played there was none of this. And I'm watching CNN this morning with

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this cardiologist from U see who's an
expert on this. He was one of

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the treating docs Tomorrow Hamlin, and
the question was asked, right now,

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it's like ninety eight degrees. Kids
are running around getting ready for soccer and

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football, and girls are running around
with soccer and they're getting ready. And

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I know you do more work with
high schools than any doc the history of

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Cincinnati. And when you say we
don't you can't test, am I right

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to say you can't test for this? Well, yes and no the routine

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examination listen to the heart and lungs, you cannot. And some people have

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talked about getting EKGs. Most of
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electric cardiogram, most of the time
the electric cardiogram doesn't show anything. But

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there have been people that if you
have any type of thought or history taught

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the mar Fan type, tall thin
kids that you know might be the prototypical

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type that have a congenital heart problem. We recommend getting echo cardiograms, which

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can see the size of the heart
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the heart. And so any parent
that has a child that's going to play

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a sport and if their primary care
doctor says yeah, maybe it's not a

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bad idea family history of how you're
built. Maybe you want to go get

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this echo cardiogram, or even if
you just want to be extra safe,

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you can get an echo cardiogram,
which which can show you a lot of

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these especially congenital problems, but there
are other things that happened too. I

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think that you've got to wonder a
lot of these kids are taking supplements,

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creatine all of these things and boost
energy. Those are the things I wonder

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about. You know, kids that
get dehydrated and they go out this hot

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sun and their hearts got to beat. You know, it's one hundred and

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eighty beats a minute. It's crazy. And so now you're taking supplements and

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help you, you know, stay
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you get your energy level going.
And there's a gazillion of them out

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there. My question is what are
those What are those do to the heart?

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What are those doing? Combination with
somebody that might have had a COVID

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booster, what do those do?
And somebody that might have some kind of

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family history. So I think my
advice to any parent whose child is going

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to go play a sport is to
know, again, we do examinations on

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all the kids prior to them playing. But go to your primary doctor,

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you're pediatrician, why don't you and
go get worked up and they'll do it

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for you. And I think it's
a responsible thing to do for your kids.

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So if you add multiple factors,
I know from previous discussions I've had

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with you on other issues, that
is one thing leads to the other,

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that leads to the other, the
leads to the other. So if some

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kid is working out in LEBRONI James
case, it was like it was like

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ninety four degrees and he was outside
and he just passed out. I think

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a Hank Gathers who played for Liola
Marymont who played in the Gardens. I

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think his running mate was a guy
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on the court itself, lost consciousness
and died. And they did not know

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at that point about what to do. If you take a kid who is

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trying to make a team in its
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in which the exam by the physicians
were not cardiac related. Add on top

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of that, maybe creatine or other
growth and hormone supplements which young kids take

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all the time, and add on
top of out a family history, a

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bottom boone bottom bang bottom bank.
That's the kid, male or female that

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needs to have this echo done.
Is that correct? Absolutely? And again

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go back and look at you you're
you're right. I think it's being sensationalized

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now and that's great because it's bringing
the awareness. But go back and look

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at some of the NBA players that
have passed on at early right. These

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are tall, thin guys, that's
the prototypical. They might have some cardiac

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abnormality. I mean I remember a
number a couple of the Boston Celtics,

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you know, they had they had
just in the summertime, they were working

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out and they died. They found
out that they had this this cardiac issue.

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And I'm pretty sure that the NBA, now that's a pretty good work

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up with these echo cardiograms to make
sure none of these players have it so

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this doesn't happen, or at least
they're aware of it. So I think

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your awareness is number one and two. If you have any questions, as

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you just said, I mean we're
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family history, the way you're built, You talk to your doc and go

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get worked up to give you some
peace of mind. I mean I've had

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patience of mind. I've had big
kids that we're nineteen years old. I

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know that where colleges had died and
they did an autopsy. No nineteen year

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old should ever die, and so
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got this cardiac abnimality. They played
college football, they played sports all their

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lives, they never had a problem, and boom, it just happens.

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So again, the awareness, it's
unfortunate, Debrouni. Fortunately he's fine.

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They'll do a complete work up on
him to find out exactly why this happened.

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And there's a lot of reasons and
things that can go on with the

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heartness to why and then decide if
it's safe for him to go back and

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play basketball to that level again.
But again, I think the awareness in

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the shock that people get when they
see an eighteen year old kid have a

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cardiac arrest. You know, maybe
that'll help somebody else and it will save

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their life if you know, they
get worked up and they get diagnosed and

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bingo, they can treat it well. Lastly, doctor Timothy Kremcheck, the

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ae eds were available at USC because
they had a kid last year with exactly

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the same thing that occurred, and
the AEED was available. If ten minutes

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go by, fifteen minutes go by
and there's no restarting of the heart,

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that's not a recoverable event. No
usually organs in the brain, and you

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get to that far out without oxygen, it becomes irreversible. But again,

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that's the reason about trainers. That's
the reason we have trainers at our high

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schools. That's the reason they're all
trained on ae D. That's why they're

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all in the field at all sports
men's and women's And you know, these

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these can be lifesavers. And you
know we've got these athletes that are playing.

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But he did for people in the
Spans, coaches, anybody around.

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I mean, gend the ad has
been an unbelievable resource to help help people

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with these problems. I mean,
it happens in restaurants, it happens everywhere.

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And I think the other advice I
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family members that are maybe a little
bit older or you've not even that,

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learn and have an ae ED if
you've got one available, know how to

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use it. Do we know why
boys? Do we know why boys?

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According to the experts, boys are
more affected than girls, and blacks are

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more effected than whites. Do we
and youth is more effective than older folks?

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Do we know? Why? Well? I guess youth. I mean

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obviously, you know older folks would
have more wear and tear in their hearts

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to coronary arteries. To me,
that makes more sense. Why men and

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women and black or white? I
really don't know. I don't know.

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I don't have the answer to that. But you would say that right now,

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conditioning is happening. It's the it's
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think football starts. I think high
school football probably has already began, and

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high school soccers began that you must
have an aeed available because it's almost like

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ten to twelve minutes is too late. But more important, most importantly,

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gotta know how to operate them.
Are those difficult to learn? Yeah,

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no, it's very simple, and
the coaches should learn how to use it.

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They I don't know where it is, you know, I don't know

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how many times you hear where is
it? I don't know where it is.

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I mean, people need to be
aware of the trainers. The administrators

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of the schools needn't make sure the
coaches now, and you're right, it's

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gonna be hot. It's it's gonna
be ninety seven degrees I hear tomorrow.

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And these kids should not be running
out to get dehydrated. They take these

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stimulants, they get dehydrated, all
sorts of things can happen, as far

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as muscle injuries, muscle cramps.
I mean, you hear this. These

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these people that you know, the
dehydration I think is a huge problem and

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can also lead to cardiac problems,
you know, the heat exhaustion, a

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heat stroke, and we talk about
this every year. So you know,

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our young athletes out there, we've
got to protect them. The more we

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learn about these things, the more
we've got you know, everybody knows how

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to protect them, whether it be
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You're seeing when they're getting overheated,
anybody that might have trouble breathing or having

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any type of physical problem, you've
got to pull them out and you've got

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to take a look at them.
So again, this awareness and these things

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that happened happen for a reason,
and I'm hoping that this opens the eyes

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of everybody around to be aware.
It's no longer suck it up, be

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tough, you know, you know
the athletes don't cry or athletes don't stop.

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No no, no, no,
no, no no no. We've

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got to be responsible adults for our
kids. And again this phone call being

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on the air like this, you
know, hopefully people will hear this and

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say, okay, what do I
have at my school? Or ask the

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questions, you know, go to
the school, ask the coaches, ask

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the trainer, ask the principle.
You know, what do we have here

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to protect our kids? What do
we app in motion here to make sure

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that my son or daughter is safe? Again, those questions are great ones

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to ask because maybe nobody's asking them
and so maybe that will you know,

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save a life. Well maybe right
now, I mean check out with the

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ad. You go to the principal, talk to a board of education member

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in your school saying do we have
training? I know when I played,

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it was a matter of weakness to
drink water. If you had water breaks,

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it was like something's wrong. You
got a tough en up man.

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That's not the way the world works
today. Well, you know what I'll

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tell you. I'll tell you you
think that we've learned, but you know

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you've got these Now you read the
newspaper, you find these college coaches,

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the harassment, the hazing, the
things that are going on there are so

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unhealthy and so unnecessary and irresponsible.
And again it's the same one. Tough

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guys don't need water, you know, I mean, yeah, break and

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well that's just stupid. So again, as a parent, go to your

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school, ask the question, Ask
the trainers, find out, make everybody

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aware and look, there's no harm
in that. And there's a peace of

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mind knowing that everybody eats on the
same page. If somebody gets you know,

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hurt, injured, repeat, exhaustion, what have you asthmatic attacks,

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beast things. I mean, all
these things happen to our athletes out there.

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But we've got to protect our kids. And you know, you said,

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I've been out there and I take
care of high schools. I've been

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doing it forever, and I've seen
almost everything that can happen on the field,

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and it's you know, some of
them are tragic. But the more

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awareness that we have and more responsible
we are as schools and parents and coaches,

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trainers, the better these kids do, the safer it is for them

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to play. And that makes me
proud that I'm part of all this.

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Doctor Timothy Cremcheck, you're the best
of what you do. And thank you

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again for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Show. God bless you, Thank you

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all right, buddy, thank you. Forewarned is forearmed as a parent to

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involve now on seven hundred WLW.
Hey are you drowning in credit card debt?

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You want to get cash out of
your home Zech