WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:11.439 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with the 2 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:18.440 aaw fanhob podcast team in the week leading up to Double or Nothing. This 3 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:23.559 is Kelson and this is Alex, and we're gonna lead with a little bit 4 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:29.079 of news we just got. They've pushed back All Out from I think it 5 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:34.119 was Sunday, September first, to a week later, maybe Sunday September eighth 6 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.079 instead. No, I think it's the sixth, actually the sixth. Yeah, 7 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:44.439 I think it's on Saturday now. Yeah, okay, it definitely prefers 8 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:50.079 Saturday pay per views, so I like that, Yes, I agreat Yeah, 9 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:53.759 especially at the five hour marathons you can actually sleep in the next day. 10 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:58.119 Yeah, it was. It's really bizarre considering they don't have even a 11 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:03.439 pay per view every month that they were having All In and then a week 12 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:08.079 later doing All Out. Like what could possibly be the reason for doing that? 13 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.079 I don't know, but let me ask you, did you feel like 14 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:15.959 All In then they had All Out? Did you feel like a little bit 15 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.359 burned out on wrestling? You know, because you had All In then you 16 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:26.200 had you know, had your regular dynamite, you had your rampage, you 17 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.959 had your collision, then you had All Out. It's almost like, what 18 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.079 seventeen hours worth of wrestling in that week? Yeah, you know, it 19 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:40.560 seemed like it fifteen hours. Yeah, And I remember having like zero expectations 20 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:46.000 for All Out last year. It just felt like it was like the throwaway, 21 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:52.079 like throw on the matches that aren't good enough for all In is what 22 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.079 it felt like. It ended up being a much better show, I think 23 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.319 than anyone expected it to be. But yeah, yeah, it was fine, 24 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.200 But what you're saying, it felt like I described it as a go 25 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:08.199 home pay per view. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah. I bought All 26 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:12.639 In, but I but I refused to buy All Out, and I think 27 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:15.919 I missed a shot of standing. It's the paper review, but I'm glad 28 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:22.319 they're separating a little bit more of this time. A lot of people were 29 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:23.599 saying last year. I don't know if you guys agree with this, that 30 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.719 with the close proximity of the two pay per views, they should have done 31 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:32.400 a two for one package for maybe ten dollars more. Yeah, yeah, 32 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:37.879 definitely. Yeah. I don't know if it's available for you guys, but 33 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:42.680 I know in Canada on Trailer TV they do have a package for the last 34 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:49.759 three months with like Forbidden Door double or nothing and well or I think it 35 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.879 was, Yeah, Dynasty, the one that we just had, it's like 36 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:57.039 three and three months, so it's it's still super expensive. It's like one 37 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.800 hundred and forty Canadian instead of one hundred and sixty or something. It's not 38 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.080 a big savings, but it's it's still something. Yeah, yeah, it's 39 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:10.960 something. It's a big burden to pay that much, so yeah, back 40 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:19.199 back. It is interesting because obviously, like WWE is just a streaming service 41 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.560 now, so it's you know, ten bucks a month or fifteen or whatever 42 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:27.719 it is. Like AW when they started, they had four pay per views 43 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.159 and it's sixty bucks a pop or whatever. So it's it's a lot of 44 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:37.039 money, but it's maybe more comparable the ten to fifteen bucks a month. 45 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:43.919 But AW has increased their pay per views now I'm counting nine, Like in 46 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.560 twenty twenty four, we're gonna have nine pay per views and they're all fifty 47 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:54.719 sixty bucks each. Yeah, I'm just wondering everybody's thoughts on aw's pay per 48 00:03:54.840 --> 00:04:02.960 view schedule and the price point and how it kind of balances out. I 49 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:13.599 guess aw's schedule. Well, honestly, well, and I believe that the 50 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.839 only reason that they added the extra pay per views is because Warner brother when 51 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.680 they signed the last contract, said we need more pay per views. They 52 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:26.160 wanted one a month, from what I understood, and Tony kind of has 53 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:30.399 been spacing them out and he hasn't got to that one a month, and 54 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.279 I don't think he's going to. But I think most people misunderstood what happened 55 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:40.399 with Like Dark and and Elevation. Why it went away was because of Warner 56 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.560 Brothers. And I think that was the same reason that they brought extra pay 57 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.800 per views, is because they wanted them as part of the TV deal. 58 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:54.839 Well here's the thing though, and I don't know if you guys agree with 59 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:58.160 this, so please let me know. A pay per view is only good 60 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.240 when it has an identity, you know, like with you got what you 61 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:08.319 got, say for WWE, you've got the Royal Rumble. You know what 62 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:12.519 the identity of the Royal Rumble is. You know, you've got King and 63 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.639 Queen of the Ring. You know, you you know, whatever they do, 64 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:19.399 there's a certain identity with it, money in the bank, you know, 65 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:26.480 whatever. You know, they have different identities where aw's are just pay 66 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:30.399 per views now. Not being negative here because I do feel like with the 67 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:36.560 pay per views and the increased number of pay per views, it has improved 68 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:42.839 the storytelling quite a bit in AW where they used to like, Okay, 69 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:45.759 we've got three months until the next pay per view, so we're just going 70 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:50.439 to throw matches at you and see if anything sticks on the wall, you 71 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:54.839 know kind of thing. Now they're doing this because they have to establish a 72 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:58.360 story to get pay per view by So I do see a positive in that. 73 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.199 But yeah, and I'm not saying that it's it's a bad thing that 74 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:09.480 right now, But like Double or Nothing, wasn't that the pay per view 75 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:15.439 that had the Casino Battle Royal? Yes, we have not seen a mention 76 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.720 to that's that's an identity, that's it. That's the kind of thing I'm 77 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:24.120 talking about. When you when you're here Double or Nothing, you're like, 78 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.480 oh, that's the one with the Casino Battle Royal. What do you see 79 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.079 Forbidden Door. That's the one where the Japanese wrestlers come over to America to 80 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:34.720 get crushed. You know that kind of thing. You know. That's what 81 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:41.600 I'm saying is that if they make it identify if a popular segment or even 82 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.480 a theme of the whole pay per view, you have to give it an 83 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:49.279 identity. I think that AW will eventually get there, but it is concerning 84 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:54.680 that double or nothing doesn't have a casino battle royal with a joker and all 85 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:59.399 that. That's to me, that's the fun part. Yeah, I agree 86 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:04.319 with you. Yeah, I can agree with them. I can agree to 87 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:09.160 that. I can. I think there needs to be five main pay per 88 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.600 views, and I would like to see them get rid of Battle of the 89 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.920 Belts. And I don't remember what it was called. Back in the baby 90 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.519 WCW had a big house show. I don't think it was Class of Champions, 91 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:26.600 but smattering of those big televisions to a little suspective that you know, 92 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:30.360 something may big may happen because when you go to Battle of the Belts, 93 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.319 you know no champions are gonna lose, because that's that's the precedent that's been 94 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:38.439 set. But I don't think they need that many pay per views because that's 95 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.959 gonna blow people. You know, if they had one per month like WWE 96 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:48.040 sometimes has, then that wears you out. But but as Kelson said, 97 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:53.360 they have they really do, they really have gotten better storyteller because they had 98 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:57.639 to build for a couple of months, so they are getting better. But 99 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.720 I would like to see just five. I don't think there needs to be 100 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:09.600 any more than that. M Yeah, I think, like I have no 101 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:16.439 problem with having eight pay per views. Welve is maybe a bit too many, 102 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:20.800 just because they're charging people fifty sixty bucks for each pay per view and 103 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:26.199 that's a lot of money to pay. But I do and what Kelson was 104 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:30.839 saying is, I do feel like it helps the storytelling. Like AW goes 105 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.879 through a cycle, especially when there's two three months between a pay per view, 106 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:39.879 where it's like kind of things kind of drag on a little bit in 107 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:43.399 month two just coming into the pay per view, like it seems like the 108 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:50.759 storylines kind of struggle, the TV shows not as interesting, people are saying 109 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:54.559 more bad things about AW, and then all of a sudden, they have 110 00:08:54.679 --> 00:09:00.320 a big, successful pay per view and everyone's happy, everyone's excited again, 111 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:05.399 and then they kind of repeat that cycle over and over again. Especially it 112 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.279 was bad when you know they had three months between a pay per view and 113 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:11.440 they used to try to split it up. They do like winners coming after 114 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:16.200 about six weeks, so they at least had like something to build to because 115 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:20.919 yeah, Glant, Yeah, because a lot of times they don't have those 116 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:28.120 matches on the TV shows where it's really in question who's gonna wind. The 117 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:33.679 main title is not going to change hands until the pay per view, So 118 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.720 then if you have three months between that, you know, what are you 119 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:43.440 doing? You're just spinning your wheels for three months. So I don't want 120 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:50.200 too I think what they were doing in the beginning was not so much that 121 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:56.279 the storytelling wasn't as good. It was done differently. They would do it 122 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:01.720 on a per match basis. They weren't really worried about building things that entire 123 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:07.240 three month period. They would just go in and do storytelling per match instead 124 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.919 of making it like they do now. But I agree, you know they 125 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:18.759 I think right now is at the right number. You know. Where I 126 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:24.480 had the biggest problem, and this is probably gonna be unpopular, but bear 127 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:26.440 with me, because I do have a point here where I have a problem 128 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:31.080 with the old pay per view cycle was when they brought in Forbidden Door. 129 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:35.320 The first two Forbid Doors. When you look at it, it was right 130 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.600 in the middle of nowhere. They filled it a spot with Forbid Door, 131 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.879 But for like three weeks before Forbidden Door, and for a couple of weeks 132 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:48.679 after Forbidden Door, they were setting up Forbidden Door specifically, which meant that 133 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:54.799 nothing AW related was happening during that time except for throwing together matches. So 134 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:03.720 I used to refer to Forbid Door as the momentum killer, because you put 135 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:09.039 a total stop to everything that was being done in AW to focus on Forbidden 136 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.720 Door. And then again after Forbidden Door you had a couple of wrap button 137 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:18.080 matches, you know, and then then then you got aw agains. But 138 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:22.919 for a month and a half or at least a month on the week of 139 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:28.879 the month of Forbidden Door, all AW activity stopped, and that that was 140 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.840 a momentum killer. Now if you look at it this year, I don't 141 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.279 have a problem with it. Why because you've got the whole thing with Jack 142 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.240 Perry going to through Japan and being familiar with that over there, so he's 143 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.519 got a little bit of a foot in the door in New Japan. You've 144 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:50.000 got John Moxley as the IWGP champion. You've had Eddie Kingston until very recently 145 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:56.519 as the Strong open Weight Championship champion. You've seen in the women's division. 146 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:00.360 You've had Mina Shirakawa over here, You've had ACM, You've had tam Na 147 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:05.879 Kano, You've had three other women from stardom over here. That's the kind 148 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.039 of thing you do, you slowly incorporated building a mistique. And they've actually 149 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:13.440 built a mystique with like Mina Shirakawa. There's a story going on there. 150 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:20.360 There's a story with Willow Nightingale going over to startup just this past week and 151 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:26.879 Miking tam Tocano. So they're doing things that make sense, but not forgetting 152 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:33.120 or pushing aside ae W stuff. Yeah, And I would say like the 153 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.480 first year for bidd Indor they had injuries and oh yeah, it was not 154 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.679 a strong card. And last year's for bid Indor was a lot more interesting. 155 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.600 They had Omega Osprey too, they had Ocatta Danielson, So there it 156 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.919 was a lot more interesting to me and exciting. And I really like for 157 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:58.639 Bid Indor just the concept that they can have that, and I'm hoping it's 158 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:07.360 much more integrated this year. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's what 159 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:16.200 you want and you want my boy, yeah, you know. But I 160 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:24.320 think really the important thing with Forbidden Door is in the meaningful matches. Have 161 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.000 somebody who came through Forbidden Door win at least one or two of them. 162 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:33.039 I mean, because it's I hate to say it, but you know, 163 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.480 somebody brought up Battle of the Belts earlier. Forbidden Door's this Battle of the 164 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:41.440 Belts, buddy, it's just Battle of the Belts. Well, I understand 165 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:43.919 that, and I get it and all, but it's like anything else. 166 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.080 There's not too many companies, even well in New Japan. I can't really, 167 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.399 you can't really say that because New Japan will put up to whoever they 168 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.720 win will be the best for the match. And that's always been the problem 169 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.279 with American wrestling. Whoever is running that company wants their people to win, 170 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.960 and I don't. I don't, I don't see I. Unfortunately, it's 171 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.559 never been different, and that's one of the biggest reasons why people always complained 172 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.200 that, you know, WWE would never you know, somebody somebody told me 173 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:20.759 the other day we were talking about the Forbidden Door, and they said, 174 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.360 yeah, well, it would be cool to see you guys from w W 175 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:24.440 in there. I said, yeah, that would be cool too. If 176 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.440 if if w W E con get it to their head that they're not going 177 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:33.360 to win every match, because that's why companies don't like working with them. 178 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:39.320 Tony's getting he'll get to the point hopefully where that will change. But there 179 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.639 are some things in a W that they do that they just might as well 180 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.080 not because you already know what's gonna happen, And if you could schedule them 181 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.480 the whole year long, and you're gonna know the Battle of the Belts, 182 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.720 never going to see a belt change, never have yet. Eliminator matches. 183 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:54.600 What the hell is the point of an eliminator match because champions never lose, 184 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:03.200 so you know, in no And I think there was one time that's happened, 185 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.559 and that was like in the first year, but I can't remember it 186 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:11.039 was somebody I know. I know that thunder ROSSA went to Japan to t 187 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:15.399 j p W and lost the eliminator match. To me. You you have 188 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.799 Ashida, so MEA, you have Ashida got a World Championship match and came 189 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:24.720 to the United States and fought thunder Ross on TV and lost. I think 190 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.200 that's the only one that's been that way. They're five years in, you've 191 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.919 got one of those happened, makes no sense. I mean, we all 192 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:37.039 know, we all know the wrestlings predictable. I mean, you sit there 193 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.480 and you can It's gonna be hard to give everybody what they want. It's 194 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.720 gonna be hard to make it so that, you know, people can say, 195 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.240 you know, wow, this card like tonight or tomorrow night's card, 196 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.519 you pretty much knew who's gonna win them all. It's a set up matches, 197 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:54.080 set up matches for the for the pay per view. It gives everybody 198 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.440 involved in the pay per view chance to be in the in the show beforehand 199 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:02.759 and ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Do you 200 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:06.240 guys? This is what just answer all at once if you want. Do 201 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:11.279 you guys remember when Action Andretti beat Chris Jericho? Yep, yeah, yep. 202 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.000 Do you remember when Chris Jericho beat Action Andretti a couple months later? 203 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:22.120 Nope? No, no, Why Because Action Andretti beating Chris Jericho was unpredictable. 204 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.639 It was entertaining. That's what AW has to do. That's what all 205 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.120 wrestling companies have to do. It doesn't matter if you put on a great 206 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:33.200 match, it really doesn't. You could have an average match, but if 207 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.120 the result is unpredictable, it's going to be memorable. Remember when I believe 208 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:42.679 Bill Goldberg's first match was against you Morrison in w c W. Nobody knew 209 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.240 who Bill Bill Goldberg was. He came out and he won. That was 210 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:52.559 a big moment. Why because it was unpredictable. Well, unfortunately, everybody 211 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.320 that worked for WCW knew who Bill Goldberg was, but the fans didn't because 212 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:03.200 he never wrestled before. Right, Yeah, I get what you're saying fans. 213 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.720 I'm not talking about the people. Unfortunately, Unfortunately, that's just not 214 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.400 how it's ever been done. I mean, you do get some that are 215 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:15.359 unpredictable. Sometimes it's because when injury in a match. Uh like when uh 216 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:23.960 the international title was given to uh shooting what's his name Phoenix? Yeah, 217 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.400 Ray Phoenix. When there was an injury in that match, it was unintentionally 218 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:34.240 unpredictable. Yeah, right, but I mean, well I get it, 219 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.920 but I mean it was still a surprise. But you know, it comes 220 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.359 down to it, it's great to have that happen, and it's it's a 221 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:48.440 it's a it's something that's it seems like it's always been that way. It 222 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.559 would be great it wasn't, but A W is really bad at it though, 223 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.640 Well, and there, and and there's still you got to think about 224 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.279 it. They're still in their incumbency, there their infancy. I don't I 225 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.880 can't use that as an excuse. Cannot use that as an excuse. I 226 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.079 don't know. I think the opposite way. I think a lot of their 227 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:12.759 matches are just done phenomenal matches and it really doesn't matter is if they if 228 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:18.839 they to me, if the match is a phenomenal match and you know who's 229 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.200 gonna win it, I would rather see a phenomenal match than a master that 230 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.799 goes half assed and you know, you know he's gonna win. Look, 231 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:30.359 actually a Dready and great Chris Jercho. That was a great match. But 232 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.359 people remember it because of who won it. Oh yeah, not because it 233 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:37.680 was a great match. They remember it because they who want it and how 234 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.359 impressive he was and winning it meeting actually a Dready. I mean, you're 235 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:47.400 not gonna get somebody like Sir Pentico going out there and beating Squerve Strickland, 236 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:51.519 and that's kind of unbelievable. And nothing against Sir Pentaco. He is actually 237 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:56.839 a really good wrestler, But that's unbelievable. But you know, Mariah May 238 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:06.480 going against Tony storm ary mation with that match baking because predictably it's Tony Storm. 239 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:10.599 You gotta go against every once in a while, you got to go 240 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:15.480 against the norm, and sure it has to be a reason. You've got 241 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.519 to be able to give somebody a push. But I'm sorry, but throwing 242 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:23.720 Brian Keith against whoever the helly wrestle did in the qualifier match on on uh 243 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.880 what was Jack cart Wheel? I think it was U qualifier match on Collision. 244 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.880 You knew that Jack cart Wheel wasn't going to be going into Double or 245 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:38.599 Nothing pay per view for a you know, go well, go with the 246 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:44.400 Dynamite for a chance for a pay per view appearance at Double or Nothing. 247 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.720 That for you know, to qualify, that's that's preposterous. So you knew 248 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.960 who was gonna win a Shabbata match. You know who's gonna win the win 249 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.920 the hook match, et cetera. And you know what, let's go on 250 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:00.559 to the Dynamite preview and why we're on this subject, Let's talk about the 251 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:07.000 qualifier match for who will face Chris Jericho for the for the World Championship at 252 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:11.599 Double or Nothing. It's going to be Shabata versus the Bounty Hunter Brian Keith 253 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:19.000 versus Hook. Uh are you suggesting that this is a predictable match? Calson 254 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:26.079 though, Well, no, I what with it? Because we were talking 255 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.839 about, you know, the qualifier matches being predictable. Now this is the 256 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:37.079 ultimate qualifier match. Conventional wisdom would say to Hook's gonna predictably win this match. 257 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:41.160 I don't think Brian Keith stands a snowswall's chance in hell of winning this 258 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.440 match. Shabbata has a chance, you know. Uh, but wait, 259 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:51.039 the way I look at it, Uh, the way I look at it 260 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:59.279 is that uh. Here, here's my my one in a million prediction. 261 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:10.079 Is that remember when Hook and and uh Chris Jericho were partners with Shabbata and 262 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:12.799 Hook and Hook and Chris Jericho kind of got into it, Shabata got pinned. 263 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:22.079 Maybe this is retribution. Maybe Hook and Brian Keith get into it at 264 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.440 Chabata gets the pin, you know, so maybe it will be Shabbata going 265 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:32.400 into double or nothing. Let me be honest with you, I really don't 266 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:37.720 want to see another Hook and Chris Jericho match. I would really root for 267 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.160 Brian Keith and or uh Shabata to win it. I don't know about you, 268 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:47.440 guys, So let me know my fantasy. Yeah, go ahead, 269 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:53.319 go ahead, Uh, okay, what is passed among I would book it. 270 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.960 You know, he talks about surprises, but I would love to see 271 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:00.440 you know, Jericho kind of getting because he doesn't want to face Hook or 272 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:07.079 Shabata and they somehow it's heat and it be uh Brian Keith versus Trip versus 273 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.880 Chris Jerker. It could. It could put Brian Keith on the map and 274 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.720 show people that he can still go. He can go with Chris Jericho and 275 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.359 put on a good match. Yes, I know he won't win, but 276 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.880 it would be nice because I like Hook and I like Shabata, but they 277 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.960 both face Jericho and it's time to let other people shine. It will remind 278 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:32.000 me of a match, you know, like Chris Jerke, like back in 279 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.440 the day when Felton Benjamin beat Triple H and stuff like that, where it's 280 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:42.400 a good there's a decent chance. But Keith lee to me ise who look 281 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.160 to do it? I think Shapada would be a good match. I don't 282 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.440 want to see another Hook right now, and I don't think they need that 283 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.839 because he doesn't need because Hook doesn't need to get the belt back right away. 284 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.440 Well, if Brian Keith wins the match, MK, would you agree 285 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.200 that that is not a good pay per view buy? And that's a zero 286 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:06.200 hour match against Christ Jericho. Well, but that title is ben zero hour 287 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:11.000 before, so I mean, but I don't think Chris Ego could contain being 288 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:18.160 a zero hours so I don't know. Yeah, I I feel like I 289 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:25.799 would definitely say like one hundred percent or ninety nine point nine percent hook is 290 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:33.640 winning here. I I'd love to see more Brian Keith. I'd love Apparently 291 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.480 he's a supernatural bounty hunter. I heard him saying that on his podcast, 292 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.200 and I don't think I don't think that's ever been conveyed on aw television. 293 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.880 And I'd like to see him in a feud with like Shane Taylor and see 294 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:52.839 more about his character and what makes him a banty hunter with real much. 295 00:23:52.720 --> 00:24:00.559 Yeah. Yeah, he's like the little undertaker, I guess, the bounty 296 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:06.799 hunter instead of a funeral home guy. That's that's just what he's That's what 297 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:14.440 he's described his character. That's why I mean, it's not the least weird 298 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.359 you know, we have. Abo was gonna say he could give him something 299 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:25.079 to do, he could be a team with Abdon, like they could back 300 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:33.720 each other up. I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I 301 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.680 think it could be funny. But yeah, this match, I think we're 302 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:45.640 gonna see some drama between Shabata and Hook. I saw someone post somewhere an 303 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:51.960 image of Shebata leaving his collision match through the heel tunnel, so I thought. 304 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.759 I started thinking in my head. One of is if we see Shebata 305 00:24:55.880 --> 00:25:03.839 join the Learning Tree, Oh, I need to put him there. And 306 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.559 I don't know, I don't know what about that makes me happy, but 307 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.200 I could see it being pretty funny and pretty good. He could be the 308 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:25.400 bon learn That's true. That is true. No comment. It's a little 309 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:29.519 bit racist though, no not. I know it is. And I'm just 310 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:33.640 saying, you know, this is the Internet. Somebody's gonna call you racist 311 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:41.599 first. That's just getting ahead of it. I can anymore. We're getting 312 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:52.960 were everybody else, anybody else want to talk about this? Frankly, what 313 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:59.079 I feel is like the most ridiculous batch. It is. It is, 314 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:04.880 But you know, I want to hate Chris Jericho so much. That Learning 315 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:11.319 Tree is so obnoxious and so ridiculous, but it's just so funny every time 316 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:18.400 I listen to him talk, it just gets funnier and funnier. It's unbelievable 317 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:26.000 how unaware he seems to be of exactly how aggravating he is to those around 318 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:32.240 him, and it's it's so silly. I can't believe he's doing that. 319 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:44.160 Yeah, I don't know after this, that's why. Yeah, I guess 320 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:48.720 so. I wonder what he's gonna do next, you know, like, 321 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.759 what else is there for Chris Jared? What else? Exactly what else he's 322 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:57.400 done everything? Yeah, Alex, if you don't mind, I'm going to 323 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.720 bring up the next segment is, well, I know it's your turn. 324 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:06.880 I want to bring up this is a three part segment because I really don't 325 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.160 want to talk about these very very often, very much. Uh. John 326 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.200 Moxley is going to be in the building. I shit you not. That's 327 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:18.519 what the promo says. John Moxley will be in the building. Who gives 328 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.039 a flying you know what? Uh. The second part is the Bag Bang 329 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.480 Gang will be at Dynamite. Hey, the promotional people over at a w 330 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.720 are knocking it out of the park set sarcastically. And the third thing is 331 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:37.680 we're getting a TBS Championship preview between Willow Nightingale and uh and Mercedes Monet, 332 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:44.359 which has been having the has it the last three months? Been a TBS 333 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.960 Championship preview? Why do we need another one? I don't understand it. 334 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:53.039 These three segments are like wrap it up nice and tight, you know, 335 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.680 rease it up real nice, and shove it up. You're you know what? 336 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:03.440 Tiller, especially just saying TBS Championship preview, that just sounds like a 337 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:11.000 video package or something like god yeah, possibly a venu or interview between the 338 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.480 two. I just think it's a good way to get Mercedes Monet on TV 339 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:23.160 and let her to learn how to get promos better, teaching an old dog 340 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:30.400 new trick. The one thing that the one thing that you might see actually 341 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.599 happen in that it's because of what happened this weekend. But Tam said something 342 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.880 about, you know, she's not happy that she lost, and she really 343 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.960 had claimed that she was going to be the one defending that title next weekend, 344 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.880 so she could be. They could have them too, john at each 345 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.559 other and have her come out and challenge the winner or do something to be 346 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:57.920 involved. Yeah, before it, before I had heard of the match, 347 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:03.839 because I'm sorry, I this match I have a interest in seeing as someone 348 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:11.319 who has never seen Mercedes Monet or Sasha Banks for Rust Alive meaning on TV, 349 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:17.000 even I've watched replays of a couple of her matches, I'm interested to 350 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.119 see what she could do. I already know what Willow Nightingale can do, 351 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.440 and uh well, I'll just face it for me, tam Tocano is five 352 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.240 times the wrestler that Willow Nightingale is, So I kind of like to see 353 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:34.400 tam To Conno added to the match at Double or Nothing or something. Maybe 354 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:41.640 she comes out and does something so that Mercedes does win so Willow doesn't get 355 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.200 a clean pin. I don't want to talk about it too much because we're 356 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.839 gonna be doing a Double or Nothing preview show tomorrow night, but I think 357 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.559 tam To Coano may get involved in that match at a point where we have 358 00:29:53.799 --> 00:30:00.799 a match between Mercedes and tam at Forbidden Door. H Like you said about 359 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.799 Monet, I got to thinking about that. I haven't seen her wrestle in 360 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:10.160 a long time, and the more I think about it, I was never 361 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.359 that impressed with her wrestling ability either. She was just to me, she 362 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:22.400 was just kind of like one of those she had a gimmick, and that 363 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.720 was basically it for her. It wasn't. She wasn't. I mean, 364 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.920 there's not a whole many too many in the other company that impressed me as 365 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:37.240 wrestlers. Here's the thing. When you look at the AW fat up subred 366 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.359 and there are a lot of people on there like me who their only exposure 367 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:48.400 to Sasha Banks Mercedes Monette has been since she's been an aw one like me. 368 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:53.759 Her promotion, her, her her personality is confusing to me because she 369 00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.079 comes out and has these really phoned in CEO chants built into her music, 370 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.640 which bothers the heck out of me. She calls herself the CEO for no 371 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:10.200 reason whatsoever. That's like me calling myself the mountain. I mean, there's 372 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.559 no reason for it, but hey, so I'll just call myself the mountain. 373 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:18.119 And and then she's got you know, people say she's the CEO for 374 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.640 no reason, and all she does is as I say, most of the 375 00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:23.519 time, people are much nicer than I am when they say it. But 376 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:29.640 the only thing that she does is fall over her tongue and do that stupid 377 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:37.720 goddamn dance. Well, that's the thing she's building on her history from WWE. 378 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.680 That's what this is. And that's one of the things I thought was 379 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:45.079 kind of weird that when they brought her in they were going to continue in 380 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:52.799 it with slight differences her character as what she was when she was in WW. 381 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.519 It made no sense. I mean, you know, you bring in 382 00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.440 uh, well, let's see you got came in. He changed just he 383 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:09.039 changed completely, And I really can't do that, I said. And I 384 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:14.000 didn't change change much either when he came in. No, but I mean, 385 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.920 but he's he's but he wasn't that over. I guess it's more like 386 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:24.039 WW still has an issue when it comes to making the women like they tried 387 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:30.319 to get away from the big time, over the top characterizations like they had 388 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.319 way back in the days with like uh, you know before when they had 389 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.440 Undertaker and all those guys when they first started out. They didn't get away 390 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:44.480 from that with the women. They've they've not really done the women as just 391 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:51.960 them, and she had that, you know, it was like she was 392 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:53.960 the bank, she was the business woman. That was what it was, 393 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:59.839 and that's why she's the CEO. She was the bomba so that instead of 394 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.640 being called the boss, they call it a CEO. Instead. Yeah, 395 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:09.680 but they're the only woman in WWE that impressed me with wrestling would be the 396 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:15.880 man. Other than that, I've never really been impressed with any of them, 397 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.200 and Sasha was never there. So I get that she's a big name. 398 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.160 I think on the main roster she didn't do a whole lot, but 399 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:30.960 in NXT her matches versus Bailey, I feel like that kind of put I 400 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.839 don't want to say put women's wrestling on the map, because I think internationally 401 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:40.400 things have happened, but in America, Yeah, yeah, that was like 402 00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:45.240 really a big moment. It was just treating women's wrestling as on the same 403 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:50.279 level as men's wrestling, giving the main event matches. It was just n 404 00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.200 XT. It wasn't the main roster, and she didn't do as well there, 405 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.880 but that was like a big moment for me, and she had really 406 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.680 really great matches. That's on ten years ago at this point. But I 407 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:07.800 do you think she is the Yeah, yeah, out of the four horse 408 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:13.199 Women as they were called, I think Sasha was lower on that tote and 409 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.960 pool, but but she was all about her gimmick. You know. They 410 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:22.360 had Queen, you know, had Becky, and they had all those and 411 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:30.119 Sasha was more of the larger than life gimmick, and she couldn't. She 412 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:35.639 wrestled decently and she carried you a good mat But I really am interested to 413 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.000 see how she does have the title. I think they're putting because of her 414 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:44.039 name. I don't think she's earned it. I think they should have waited 415 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:45.920 to bring her in so they didn't have to wait forever in a day just 416 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:52.159 for her to see a match with her and maybe waited until she was ready, 417 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.519 so for a few times she'd actually have a even being tag mated. 418 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.400 But we don't know how she can go, and that feels like, you 419 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.039 know, kind of a waste because we don't know how good she is. 420 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.119 And she kind of stepped up the line when she said hey, I'm next, 421 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.039 when there was a whole line full of people that could have went. 422 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:14.840 So I think she stepped on some toes as well. Yeah, I have 423 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:21.639 to agree with you. Yeah, I agree, mm hmm, Gilson, 424 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:30.400 it's quiet. Anything else else, well, yeah, I think they presented 425 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:37.360 her as a big deal coming out of big business, and she hasn't done 426 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:43.280 a lot of favors for herself in like filling the shoes like they teed her 427 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.800 up and I don't think she hit it out of the park by any means. 428 00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:51.320 Yes, but now she gets a chance to wrestle and show herself that 429 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:57.320 way, and hopefully she impresses. There's a lot of running online. Yeah, 430 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.960 she's supposed to be top dog, and I don't think she is. 431 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.440 I think Tony Storm is a better wrestler. I think Mariah Mays is a 432 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:12.760 better wrestler than her better actors too, like they're yeh charisma. I love 433 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:19.320 that Tony Sworm lives a gimmick even inside of wrestling. On that photo that 434 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.039 was posted from Tim from the wedding, that was funny to me too. 435 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:30.719 Yeah, but you know, but she's Tom's not that great of her wrestler, 436 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:37.239 but herr her persona is what puts her over and you know, leading 437 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.000 into there were nothing I don't you know, we know the winner of that 438 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:45.079 probably too. But there are a lot of people who are better than wrestlers 439 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:49.079 and than Mercedes, and she's gonad to step it up, and she can't 440 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.760 step it up, then I'm going to say that he right now, I 441 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:59.960 don't think that Mercedes Monette was worth the money that she's getting. Yeah, 442 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.400 and it's just weird that everybody else that the two gentlemen that came in at 443 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:12.360 the same time have been food blown, going balls out crazy with matches ever 444 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.679 since they came in. They wrestled almost every week. What didn't Why isn't 445 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:20.639 she wrestling? There's plenty of opportunities she had to get in the ring. 446 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.400 She's hurt? Is she still hurt? She was not cleared. She was 447 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.800 cleared to wrestle her first match at ard Nothing. We need to move on 448 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:34.039 because we've been speaking about this. Nobody said, hey, you know what, 449 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.519 we're just repeating ourselves over and I'm cutting this whole thing out of the 450 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.280 podcast because there's no sense of talking to it for talking about the same thing 451 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:46.239 for fifteen minutes. So let's move on to Alex uh yeah talking about newer 452 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:52.039 members of AW. We have a tag team match Orange Cassidy and will Ospray 453 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:58.760 versus Trent Burretta and Roderick Strong. Hey, I mean this match will go 454 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:04.760 either way, and it's interesting we're setting up both the Don Kallis family storyline, 455 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:10.119 the Orange Cassidy versus Trent Bretta storyline, will Ospray versus Roderick Strong. 456 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:16.880 Yeah, so I think there's a lot of drama at play in this match, 457 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.440 and I like all these guys as wrestlers, so I think it'll be 458 00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:27.599 a pretty fun match. And there's history between Osprey and Orange Cassidy. Yes 459 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.480 they had. Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm give a spicy prediction, as 460 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:37.320 as Kelson says, and I really feel that this is the match that somebody 461 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.800 is going to turn, whether it's going to be Trent gonna turn but Trent's 462 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:51.639 gonna join Callous family or Orange Cassidy is going to do something, said it 463 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.159 because they don't have that match, and there has to be more of a 464 00:38:54.280 --> 00:39:01.760 beef between Orange Cassidy and Trent than just have a match already that so something's 465 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.440 got to build. I don't know what, but I think there's something spicy's 466 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:12.000 gonna happen. There's a lot of tension there, but I don't know where 467 00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.000 they're going with it. Every time I think there's gonna be a turn, 468 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:22.159 nothing happens, So I don't know, you know what. Here's here's my 469 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:27.199 opinion on this, Okay, and I'm going to actually talk about several of 470 00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:31.000 the matches You've got Will Osbury and Roderick Strong Arett who have matches at double 471 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:36.199 or nothing? Tony Storm as a match at double or Nothing's worth. Strickland 472 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:43.159 has a match at double or nothing. Malachai Black, Brian Danielson, Well, 473 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.039 can I catcha Sorda has a match at double nothing? You've got all 474 00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.679 these matches with people that are gonna rest on pay per view. What happens 475 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.440 if one of these people get injured on have an unfortunate injury? Why are 476 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.880 you having any of these matches? I literally will be watching this matches not 477 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.480 giving a day am about who wins or loses these matches. All I want 478 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.679 is for them all to come out of this healthy because these are stupid matches. 479 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:12.119 You gotta have them on there. I mean, you got to be 480 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.599 able to match. You got to give him a reason to watch, and 481 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.480 I would have watch prefer Brian John Moxley, Brian Danielson, can Testa, 482 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:25.280 Roderick Strong, Orange, Cassidy will Osprey, et cetera, et cetera will 483 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:29.960 be in the building. Yeah, but then there would be no wrestling on 484 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:36.119 their show. Sure will just be two hours of guys walking around backstage and 485 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:40.199 you just have walking up the and then it would be a raw so you 486 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.360 don't need a raw on on a Dynamite show. I mean, I'm just 487 00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:49.400 saying this makes no sense. I'd mean, I'd rather see sky Blue against 488 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:57.679 Harley Cameron than have Tony Storm. In the tradition, it's always the same. 489 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.639 Every time you have a go home show or the beginning of the week 490 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.559 of that pay per view, they always had the guys involved in the pay 491 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.840 per view involved in matches. It's always been that way. I just I 492 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.480 just don't mind it, especially especially when you look at you know, the 493 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:20.760 unfortunate injuries that have plagued a w There's been injuries in WWE stardom. Now 494 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:25.159 even Merrigold had had uh as an injury. Julia got hurt. She's out, 495 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.679 so you know, Eddie Kingston's out until for nine months. You know. 496 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:37.199 It's just it's just like, don't kept faith. Don't you up your 497 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.559 pay per view for for a Dynamite that six hundred thousand people are going to 498 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.760 watch. Yeah, well, they're professionals, and like they're not going to 499 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:51.039 have a crazy match, like like Eddie Kingston broke his leg getting suplex out 500 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.599 of the ring through a table into the barricade. Yeah, hopefully they don't 501 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.320 do that, not dynamite, they might. I wouldn't put it past these 502 00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:04.880 guys they like that, like Brian Danielson. I just said, there's a 503 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.599 report that he needs neck surgery, So what do they do? They put 504 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.960 him in a match with sat and them saying that doesn't mean that at all. 505 00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.840 That's the one that question, that's that's kind of that's the one. 506 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.280 I agree. Malachi Black has a history of injuries over the last couple of 507 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:22.639 years, So what do you do before his big shot at the pay per 508 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.239 view? You put him in a match with Kyle O'Reilly, who also has 509 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:35.519 a history of injuries. You know you have you're world champion in a completely 510 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:40.920 meaningless match against Nick Wayne. Uh Ka is already in a meaningless match at 511 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.239 at double or nothing, So you're putting him in a match that against Matt 512 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.880 Sidel that there's no chance that Sidel's gonna win. So why even bother having 513 00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:55.159 it. I just don't understand. I wouldn't put Nick Wayne versus as meaningless 514 00:42:55.199 --> 00:43:00.280 because those who have a history and it's building that that swerve has to pay 515 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:05.559 for his past past deeds and what and what he did, So that one 516 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.760 I can't say, meaningless that had to least some grudge involved and that the 517 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:14.159 rest don't really. Yeah, the only problem I have with that is that's 518 00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.400 over a year ago. But it's part of the past. I mean, 519 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.519 he can't move past that. Yeah, it's part of the past. But 520 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:28.599 they didn't continue that storyline, you know what I mean. He went into 521 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:32.679 that and then they moved on to two separate things. They went two separate 522 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.599 ways. It wasn't like it was something that's been going on for the last 523 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.639 year and then all of a sudden they're bringing back a year later, going 524 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.639 oh, yeah, well they had this last year, so well, I 525 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.199 just I kind of agree that it's kind of weird to have that match. 526 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:52.880 But but but but on second thought, this couldn't be part of a leading 527 00:43:52.039 --> 00:44:00.480 to the downfall of Christian Cage mm hmm, because Wayne's trying to if he 528 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.679 you know, he could he could look at that as jealousy of Nick moving 529 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:10.480 in on his match beforehand, and that could help. Hopefully that's what it's 530 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:19.199 gonna do. Yeah, you would swear leaving Nick Wayne like drenched in blood 531 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.000 a year ago and now Nick Wayne got his revenge. Where was squirting blood 532 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.800 out on the ring last week and now they're going to have a match. 533 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.199 Yeah. I like this match. I think there's a lot of drama behind 534 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.280 it. It is obviously just the work like a try up or a work 535 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.880 up match for Swerve Strickland, but there's a lot more to it than just 536 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:47.800 that. And Nick Wayne's exciting and I yeah, I'm excited for this match. 537 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.119 Yeah. Well, just so you guys know, I mean, I've 538 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:57.159 said all that I'm gonna say. I have something else to say. I 539 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.320 think the rest of that died of my back. I think that the vast 540 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.519 majority of this side of my card makes no sense, and I honestly they'll 541 00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.760 probably watching it with like, Okay, my only hope. I don't care 542 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:12.199 who wins, who loses anything. I just don't want anybody to get hurt. 543 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.199 So it doesn't ruin before nothing, because frankly, double or nothing is 544 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:21.760 we're coming from. But you know, so that's it, So enjoy the 545 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:30.400 rest of the podcast. I am out by ELK So okay, I'm gonna 546 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.960 I was gonna move on to Kyler Riley Malachi Black, but I'm Katie, 547 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.960 do you have something else to add? No, I was just inn comment 548 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.000 on Kyler Riley versus Malachi Black, But I think it's an uniful energy. 549 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:47.719 Yeah. I really think those who can go at it both are kind of 550 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:55.320 strikers. So that'll be a very good match to put those those two together. 551 00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.079 I like Carler Riley doing good things. I'm glad he's away from the 552 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:07.400 abysmal mess that is on the Speaking Kingdom, so you know. And plus 553 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.519 Malachi is getting yet another singles match with by one by an award along the 554 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.480 graph about and say that he never gets him, and now he's getting him, 555 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.920 so they'll find something else to graph about me. But it's a big, 556 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:27.840 good match up, yeah, for sure. Like I I think Malachi 557 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.920 Black he had a singles match versus Brian Keith at one point. I think 558 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.320 he had one other one, but he really hasn't had a singles match versus 559 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:43.920 anyone with any real credibility or has actually one matches an ae W. So 560 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:49.559 I am excited for this match and their styles match up kind of beautifully. 561 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.280 Yeah, I'm really excited for this match. Kind of announced it in nowhere, 562 00:46:54.519 --> 00:47:00.679 Yeah, really good. Surprised. Well, it's us into the storyline. 563 00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.559 I mean it does because O'Riley had coming out to help. Uh, 564 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.159 yeah, Adam, But it's one of those things where it should be a 565 00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.079 really good match. It might be the best match of the night, to 566 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:19.880 be honest about it. But yeah, I love Malachai. I think it's 567 00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:23.119 a good thing for him. Hopefully you'll you know, it's one of those 568 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:28.719 things. It's a match that they'll put on and I think it'll be great. 569 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.960 It should. I don't say the reason why it wouldn't be. Mm 570 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:40.400 hmm, all right, Sutton, what match do you want to talk about 571 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:46.039 next? Oh, let's see, that's a good question. Well, let's 572 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:52.280 talk about the Giant. The Giant versus the the Dragon Good. Now, 573 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:59.199 honestly, this match makes absolutely no sense. I get it. It's about 574 00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:06.599 the bounty, that the it's it's it's furthering the the the the e VP's 575 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.920 storyline of setting up the thing. But to be honest with you, this 576 00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.440 is the one match that they really should not do. Yeah, it should 577 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:21.800 have been Jared or you know, somebody else, but putting him up against 578 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.320 a guy who is not that good a wrestler in the first place. I've 579 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.039 never seen something them do anything that made me impress that he was other than 580 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:37.079 what the old fashioned you know Giant that they had back in the old days. 581 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:44.039 He's just there because of his size. Great college, yeah, the 582 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:52.440 great colleague or Giant Gonzalez or you know the guys that were there who they 583 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.519 were, the favorite of the owner, the type of guy they wanted. 584 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.079 But I just don't see a reason why you have this match. I yeah, 585 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:07.599 yeah, Sat has been he's been fun a few times on TV. 586 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:13.719 I don't know if he's I can't picture him wrestling. I'm looking at its. 587 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:19.000 Apparently he wrestled in a twelve man match on Zero Hour against the Bang 588 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.960 Bank Scissor Gang. I guess he wrestled in a and then he wrestled on 589 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:28.440 Ring of Honor and a TV taping for Ring of Honor. But yeah, 590 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.079 he doesn't have a lot of matches. I think this match will be just 591 00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:37.559 silly fun. Yeah. I can see Jeff Jarrett and his game getting involved 592 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.960 in this match somehow to getting paid by Jarrett to get involved, by the 593 00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:47.199 by the e VP to get involved too. But Satin Seeing is very good 594 00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.519 at being a part of a a good bit player. But we'll see how 595 00:49:52.840 --> 00:50:02.159 how good Brian Anderson is He able a carry satinum platinum singing a match, 596 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.880 but e them, I can do it. It's it's brand and oh yeah, 597 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.599 they'll definitely. I mean it could be a great match, a good 598 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:17.199 match. I won't say a great match, but the the good that could 599 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:22.960 come out of it compared to what could happen bad, there's no way in 600 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.400 this one that you would do that. Now, if they get in the 601 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:28.360 ring and they have a few minutes and they go at each other a couple 602 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.360 of times and then all hell breaks loose and you've got FTR coming out because 603 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.920 they're not on a match, and you get Darby come out, and Jeff 604 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.079 and the other everybody else come out, and you have a big old beat 605 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.000 down in the middle of the ring. That would be good, and that 606 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.639 might be what happens, but yeah, I don't know. This is just 607 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:52.480 weird. This seems like a like a filler match. Yeah, yeah, 608 00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.280 like it's filler, but it's so weird that it's interesting. Like like if 609 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:07.480 you compare the Keno skated catch the Matt side ow, that's that's just you 610 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.480 know, that's just there so to catch they can get a win before, 611 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:20.239 but is very good. I mean he's yeah, y, when's the last 612 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:25.079 time to catch the wrestle. I can't teach. I think it's been a 613 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:32.400 while since he's had a match. Uh he did against Offbreay. Uh the 614 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:38.519 last pair you did those two weeks ago, two three weeks ago. Yes, 615 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:43.119 I'm looking on the internet. They had. He had a match like 616 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:49.119 a month ago at tag team match, him and Fletcher versus Danielson and Claudio 617 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.119 Costa on the bunk House Brawl match. I think that was right before. 618 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:59.400 Yeah, that's why you have that match. Yeah, but but I mean 619 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.880 Matt Soidell is very good at putting on good moves and moves, and you 620 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:12.400 know he was the one who had the cool r KO back in the day, 621 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.719 oh from a shooting star press. Yes, you know, he's good 622 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.840 enough. You know, he's very good at pitting people over. He will 623 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:23.239 never be the top guy. He may never get another belt. But Matt 624 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:29.400 Sidell has a long history and he's he's a guy who I enjoy every match 625 00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:34.119 he's in. Mm hmm. Do you guys know why he's called Matt Sidell. 626 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.360 No. Apparently he was a big fan of Sab who was like the 627 00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:47.039 suicidal genocidal and then he wanted to be the Matt Fidal, which doesn't make 628 00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.079 I just thought that was funny. That's very interesting. M M. Yeah, 629 00:52:53.079 --> 00:53:01.920 it's a Sabo reference. So it'll be the story. It'll be the 630 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:09.960 title match or the Nick Wayne versus Uh you think, yeah, probably that'll 631 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:20.000 be the event. Like I would Malachite Black match just because that seems the 632 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:24.119 most interesting. But yeah, well you never know what them because because a 633 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:31.000 couple last week or so, it would the one went out next to last 634 00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:37.840 and the main event was Young Bucks coming out or something like that. I 635 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.360 can't remember which one it was. So they had a history of we know 636 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:50.840 there's an overrun tory been said so past months, an overrun. If you 637 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.480 if if I was to choose the match, it would be the final match 638 00:53:53.599 --> 00:54:01.800 based on there being an overrun, it would have to be the Settingham Thing 639 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:07.840 and Brian Danielson because you know what I mean, there's there's there's there's no 640 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:13.880 other there's no other match on the card that would require an overrun. Now, 641 00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.559 I mean you could have one from the Malachy Black Thing because Adam Adam 642 00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:22.199 Copeman could come out and they could do the whole thing like that. You 643 00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:29.039 have the sword too, because yeah, I mean, yeah, that's true. 644 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.800 I mean that that could be in there. My question though we haven't 645 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:36.440 talked about it, but but I've just been bugging me. So you've got 646 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.400 that. We talked about the tag team match between Orange Cassidy and Osprey versus 647 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:46.239 Trent and uh Rodert. But here's my question. If there you know, 648 00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:51.719 we somebody said something about Don Callis, but when's Don Callus gonna start helping 649 00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:57.199 Osprey again? He's not, I think, okay, I think they're heading 650 00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.320 into he doesn't want their help. Oh, I guess that. But when's 651 00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:06.559 that ever stopped? Callous? Yeah, you know what I mean, he's 652 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:14.000 done absolutely After the three matches that Osprey had with the three members of the 653 00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.920 family, that was it, he's not been a I mean they were one 654 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.039 time in the background they talked about the after that match, but other than 655 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:27.159 that, there's been nothing. But he's supposed to be Don Kallas's golden boy. 656 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.320 Yeah, yeah, Like he's the guy that won all those matches, 657 00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:36.639 so he should be the number one guy in Don Kallis's hard But yes, 658 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:42.360 Don Callas, then Don Kallas should be sending his guys after him to beat 659 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.960 him up, right, yeah, right, it happened, left it, 660 00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:50.559 Yeah, and it just it just kind of stuck out to me that that's 661 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.800 not been something that nobody's mentioned it, which is odd to me because I 662 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:59.039 mean you would think, you know, we talked about for the longest time, 663 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:00.440 how who's going to be this, what they're gonna do with that, 664 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:05.239 and then you've got rats Cassley might join, Trumperetta might join. Who's he 665 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.679 gonna go with there? But nobody says anything about that, And I'm sitting 666 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.239 there going, what the hell is he up to? Because you know, 667 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:15.199 he's got to be up to something? Mm hmm. Yeah. And I 668 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:21.239 feel that could play heavily in to Forbidden Door. And Tony Kahn has a 669 00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:27.000 tendency in these like go home pay per views before the big shows to hint 670 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.760 at things that come for the next pay per view, So we're Forbidden Door, 671 00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:37.599 so we could see someone show up or hints at what a possible matches 672 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:45.719 for after. Yeah, I know k Kelson's upset about these matches and doesn't 673 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:47.920 see the thing for him, what's he gonna say when they start scheduling some 674 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:54.679 of these guys in matches on Saturday. I mean, you know, you 675 00:56:54.800 --> 00:57:00.559 still got two more shows to go before the pay per view. Yeah, 676 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.599 it'll be interesting. It does make it a tough sell, like that that 677 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.800 Saturday show before the pay per view. Usually they end up filming it like 678 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:15.079 on the Thursday. They don't do it live after or after Dynamite. Yeah, 679 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:21.760 yeah, for sure, it'll be interesting. It'll be a good show. 680 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.599 I just don't know, you know, I get what everything's about, 681 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:30.000 but mm hmm, it's just it seems to me that it's really a lot 682 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:35.079 of things you've got not You've got eight matches plus three three side things. 683 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:40.159 That's a lot to do on a two on a two hour show. Yeah, 684 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:45.760 yeah, for sure. I guess one last match we haven't talked about 685 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:57.960 Tony storm rim A versus Sri Harley Cameron. I don't see a lot of 686 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:04.079 uh excitement here. They've had like kind of a mini storyline with Soriah Harley 687 00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:08.480 Cameron, Tony storm Mariam. We're getting three Her Harley Cameron matches in a 688 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:15.480 bro on Dynamite. I don't know. Maybe we'll see a little bit of 689 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:23.480 tension between Tony Stormer and Mariah May heading into the pay per view. Mm 690 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:34.320 hmmm. Oh, there's nothing with Seringadeed either, So I don't know. 691 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:40.519 That's what's complexing me, is why I don't has she had a match on 692 00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:47.280 Collision that I've missed or I remember she had a match on Collision, Okay, 693 00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:57.880 she wrestled. Who did she wrestle? I don't remember. It was 694 00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:00.960 somebody she'd be not too long ago. I don't. I don't know, 695 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:05.360 but they're not treating this Serena Deep. You very good, and I kind 696 00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.920 of feel sorry for Serena Deep in a way because I haven't gotten the publicity 697 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:15.599 that uh Brazo or Rosa has, so I don't know what to deal with 698 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:22.000 with that. Mm hmm. Yeah. If I just showed you these match 699 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:27.239 cards, you'd think you'd think we were getting Tony Storm versus like Sayah on 700 00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:36.639 the pay per view. It is a little strange. Yeah, m hm. 701 00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.280 Well, you know, it's one of those things that I think it 702 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.880 would have been better, a better benefit to Deep had they done whatever they're 703 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:54.280 going to do to separate Storm from Mariah and got that taken care of before 704 00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:59.599 they give her a title shot, because deeds being put into a match a 705 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:05.679 month after she got put into it for actually no reason. But there's so 706 01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.800 many other things going on around her that she's not being fit into that kind 707 01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:20.280 of It kind of does make her like almost unimportant. Yeah, yeah, 708 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.480 for sure, And it's definitely felt that way. It makes it feel like 709 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:30.000 they have a zero percent chance that Serena deep wins. Yeah, they're really 710 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.679 I don't I don't know why they're doing this, but they She deserves so 711 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:39.599 much better. I know she'll never be the top woman in a woman's division, 712 01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:46.360 but she deserves a better treatment in my opinion. Yeah, for sure. 713 01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:52.400 Like I could definitely see her with the TBS championship at some point. 714 01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:57.559 I don't see anytime in the near future because it's theoretically going to be with 715 01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:06.760 Mercedes and then he's gonna will live for probably quite a while. But yeah, 716 01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:14.440 yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think that's it. Yeah, 717 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:21.599 okay, no this entire time. Do what I said. I said, 718 01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.000 if I've been muted this and I've just been talking to talking to talking 719 01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:29.880 to nobody who's paid attention to me. Never mind, we're just ignoring you 720 01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:40.039 now, So I thought, I think you're anyway your micro anyway, But 721 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:47.800 overall, I think this will be a I don't see this being a rip 722 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.360 A good time for DIALD. This won't be there. This would be a 723 01:01:52.480 --> 01:02:02.360 very low grade uh dynamite for me. I think I don't know it would 724 01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:08.760 be in decent dynamite. Sorry, you got decent matches. It's just it's 725 01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:13.880 just one of those that it is kind of a filler show that you know, 726 01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.599 you really could probably do without it. But like I said, I 727 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:20.400 wonder how you're gonna feel, Kelsey when they put some of these guys in 728 01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:25.800 matches on Collision this weekend. I think Collision has already been taped, so 729 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:30.960 it won't bother me. Oh it has, yeah, because they're not stupid 730 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:37.440 enough to do that. Yeah, Closure was taped last week. Oh that's 731 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:42.920 good. So I'm not sure. Now I may be wrong, but I'm 732 01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:47.280 pretty sure it's been That makes sense that they've been doing. Yeah, but 733 01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:53.000 uh, I've already said my myself anyway, what I might have it? 734 01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:59.000 I don't know. So are we finished talking about dynamite? Yeah? We 735 01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:02.360 cover everything or everything? Yeah? Okay, great, Well that was a 736 01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:14.719 great show, guys. Sorry I talked so much. Tomorrow night we will 737 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:19.199 cover everybody who gets their arms broken and teeth ripped out, and then we 738 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.920 will do our dynamite pre dynamite holy cow, I almost said Dynasty. I 739 01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:28.079 did want to say Dynasty, so I said Dynamite instead when I met double 740 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:34.079 or Nothing, Double or Nothing Preview and prediction show. So get your score 741 01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.559 cards out ahead of time, and I'm hoping that we have at least a 742 01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:45.440 you know, one or two more matches revealed tomorrow night for Zero hour or 743 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:49.639 even the main show. You never know. I could see thunder rosson Diana 744 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:54.960 Pronzo. Somebody mentioned them earlier. Maybe they'll get a zero hour match anyway, 745 01:03:55.239 --> 01:04:00.360 So we will see you tomorrow night for all we talked, for all 746 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:05.880 he talked. Listen to me what I don't use for audition, Hey, 747 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:13.599 I just Mercedes Mods does ship out of that anyway? For edition and the 748 01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:21.519 a W Fan podcast team, this is Kelson, Alex whatever, whatever you 749 01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:25.400 like, Joe Orange, Cassidy, Metro