1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,480 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of the Keek Verst 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,919 podcast. I am one of your hosts, the Hmmm Taylor Field, and 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,400 I am joined by I Am Not All Bad Kirkland Patzer and I am the 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:21,640 Idiot with two needlers Dolmas. Yes we are here because, as a wise 5 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:24,839 man, mister Patser once said, at the end of all things, we 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:33,000 are at the finale. We're at the finale of Halo season two, episode 7 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:36,560 eight. We're gonna be talking spoilers tonight, so if you haven't seen the 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,119 episode, go watch it and you can come back after we got our non 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,399 spoilers thoughts before we get into all that fun stuff. 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Lots of retros that are 19 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:23,799 popping off right there. We got the mad Max retro that is concluded, 20 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:27,920 No, not concluded. We got the Fury Road We're actually getting next, 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,400 that's right, so one more and then it's concluded just in time for the 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Furiosa film. We also have the Plan of the Apes retro that's popping off 23 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:42,400 on there. We just did the first was like mid two thousands, late 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,200 two thousands rise. Yeah, then we'll be moving on to the next two 25 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:49,120 anticipation for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. So there's some good stuff 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:55,879 there. Thank you to everyone that supported our Phadrennachrohne film as well. If 27 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:59,159 you rented that on the Patreon, it's no longer rentable now as it's going 28 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:00,840 into festivals, so if you want to see it, tune in in a 29 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:07,120 couple of years. Eventually a little two year early plug. Yeah yeah. 30 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,879 What else is popping off over there with side Quest Still on side Quest, 31 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,840 we had a good, very fun episode this week talking about the Outlast Trials, 32 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:17,800 and next week, I mean Kirklin and a team up, we're gonna 33 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:23,879 be talking about Princess Peach showtime. We got some news new Marvel game got 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,479 a well it wasn't announced, but we got a new trailer for it and 35 00:02:27,759 --> 00:02:30,159 some other good stuff. So always fun things going on over its side quest 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,159 amazing. What about you, Kirkling, You got anything going on? I 37 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:38,159 got just Halo on the brain right now. It's a little practice this goose 38 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:43,039 egg. Well, who wants to take it away with non spoilers? What 39 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,199 are your guys' thoughts? Give it to Halo brain over here, Halo Brain. 40 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:50,680 Yeah, I'm hot off the episode. I literally just finished it like 41 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:57,240 ten to fifteen minutes ago, and it's I was like thinking about so many 42 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,560 other like shows and stuff like just making me think of how this show makes 43 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:06,199 me feel because I've gone I feel like I've gone through certain emotions of just 44 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,240 getting super super hype on the way that they just nail like certain haloisms. 45 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:15,000 They're usually super few and far between, but when they hit them like they 46 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:17,479 certainly hit them dead on the center. And I think this episode had a 47 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:23,400 few of those more so than I think any other place of this season so 48 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:27,400 far. I think season one maybe had a little bit more, But there 49 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:30,080 was definitely some moments that I was actually like getting pretty hyped on. I 50 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,840 got like semi emotional at one point of the show, which is just hilarious 51 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:38,280 because I am not attached to, like really any of these characters, and 52 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,039 the character that I was feeling most attached to was like a super side character, 53 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,599 being one of the Covenant members, and I just I kind of chuckled 54 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:50,000 at the fact that it was making me feel that way on like such a 55 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:53,479 minor character that just goes to show how like poorly I think our main characters 56 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,080 are written for the most part. While I was watching this, I was 57 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,199 thinking of, like, man, maybe this is a better show if they 58 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,319 just kill off master Chief and just just like get rid of the main head 59 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:08,800 haun show. It's again, like it's a funny feeling to be thinking about 60 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,479 like what this show is trying to do, and it's just kind of pushing 61 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:15,000 me in the other direction. But as I was saying with my name, 62 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,839 like, I definitely think this there's not all bad content throughout probably the show 63 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,439 in general, but mostly for this episode, when it reaches certain highs, 64 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,279 it makes me forget a little bit of the mishaps. But then, you 65 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:30,879 know, in classic Halo fashion, at least for the TV series, they 66 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,600 bring in a lot of things for you to just not like at all. 67 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,800 I don't know that this is a bit of a mixed bag of an episode 68 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,680 for me. I think it'll be a fun one to kind of break down 69 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,079 because I think there is kind of a lot to talk about with just the 70 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:49,680 various areas that certain characters are in. We say go a bye to you 71 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:55,720 know, certain characters in this episode. But yeah, I think as a 72 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,439 finale for what this season is it it doesn't save it by any means, 73 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,120 but I think this is a higher point at least for me personally. Like, 74 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:09,639 you know, Taylor, you were super high on the last episode. 75 00:05:09,879 --> 00:05:13,040 I think, Dylan, you were maybe last episode of the second last episode. 76 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,399 I think this was my episode in that sense of finally I have one 77 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:20,639 that I'm I'm kind of giving possibly a thumbs up. But I don't know. 78 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,360 Maybe if we break down certain things, I'll just get reminded on some 79 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:27,680 on some garbage, because yeah, this is not a perfect show by any 80 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,000 means. And I don't know, I just want to talk about certain things, 81 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,120 so I'll just pass it along to you guys so that we can die 82 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:38,839 right into the episode. But yeah, I think I can be pretty quick 83 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:42,759 here. Once again, I had a good time this week. So that's 84 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,480 pretty awesome to see that. You know, this whole, this season as 85 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,040 a whole, was mostly a drag, but then, like you know, 86 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:53,480 the final twenty five percent of the last two episodes worked for me, and 87 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:56,399 we're entertaining. We're a good time in this episode in particular, there's so 88 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,639 many big swings they take here. I don't think all of it necessarily as 89 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:03,959 a home number. A lot of it also feels like kind of a setup 90 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,079 for next season in a way, but it's like it's bold stuff, and 91 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,600 so it's entertaining. It was like fun on screen, I think because there's 92 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:15,480 so much going on. There wasn't really any filler in this episode there, 93 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,480 and you know, there's always there's a couple of character storylines that we have 94 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,480 not been a big fan of, but I felt like even those were turned 95 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:24,879 a bit more fun because of the surrounding content new things that were going on. 96 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,879 So definitely a lot going on here. And I think because that it's 97 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,120 probably a bit messy, but it's also like it was only like an hour 98 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,399 and it kind of once again breezed by, Like I felt like it was 99 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:36,360 just a lot a lot going on and it was all like fairly fun. 100 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:41,439 So yeah, I'm I'm pretty pleased at the end of the day. Like 101 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,839 just it's always good to have a strong ending, and we had a nice 102 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,160 two episodes swing here at the end that I was a pretty big fan of. 103 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,680 I guess, so I'm happy. I really, you know, I 104 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,360 would have been great if I love the whole season, but like, I'm 105 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:56,720 not gonna complain at this point. I'm pretty happy with where we left off. 106 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,160 I see, you got some Halo games erect in the back ground there 107 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:06,399 and three my favorite, and then Reach there and then more couple of spines 108 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,600 if you look really close. Oh, I might need my magnifying glass, 109 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:17,839 so check that on the recast episode. Yeah, I am dare I say 110 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:24,360 reluctantly positive on this episode. That's three in a row for you, isn't 111 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,439 it. That is three in a row for me this season. I don't 112 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,360 like admitting that I'm more positive on this finale, but it is because of 113 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:38,399 those bold swings like you mentioned Dylan, but it's done messily. I'm getting 114 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:44,199 to see things that I like, but it's it's just it's it's it was 115 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:50,000 unpleasantly achieved. It's like being in a really toxic relationship and you just have 116 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,120 like you go on a date every so often with them, with the person, 117 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:57,120 it's like really nice and wonderful, like you're just going to like a 118 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,360 buffet, you're gonna do something, realize, but then ninety percent of the 119 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:01,240 time when you're not going on a day, it's just toxic. It's fucking 120 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:09,639 atrocious. And that's what this kind of feels like. So the I there's 121 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:15,360 introductions, there's there's story narratives and plots and stuff that they're really tackling in 122 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,720 here, and I feel like they, really, like you said, they 123 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:20,879 cram so much into here, and that is why I like it, because 124 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:26,800 there's so many haloisms that they've implemented in this episode. But it's messy, 125 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:31,120 and from a general audience's perspective, I don't know how they would handle it. 126 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,639 Where a few of my friends that haven't played Halo, but they're watching 127 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,360 the show and they think, oh, you know, it's not a bad 128 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,159 show, it's kind of decent. But I don't know how they would handle 129 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,840 seeing so many things that were boldly introduced in this episode, because it's so 130 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,279 confusing where we've had such a slow build up and a slow burn. Reach 131 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:54,039 was done in an episode and a half if that, which is such a 132 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,200 huge thing. Yeah, which is crazy, and just to transition from like 133 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,120 Reach should have been at least half a seat and it should have been a 134 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,519 huge, epic scale thing, but they really diminished it. And I feel 135 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:09,799 like all the story points that they introduced and they covered in six episodes were 136 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,360 cast it aside, and they didn't even do a good enough job at leading 137 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:18,600 towards what we are at now. I feel like what we're at now should 138 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,960 have been It should have like Reach should have been four episodes, and then 139 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 where we're at now in these last two episodes should have been to pick me 140 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:33,960 up after how can I say this Reach four episodes and then give us like 141 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:37,200 two episodes to build up to where we are at now, and then everything 142 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,320 they introduced in this episode shouldn't have been introduced. They should have saved this 143 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,240 for later, and then they should have maybe hinted at this more like last 144 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,120 week's episode could have been a good finale. They should have just spaced it 145 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,240 all out better. But we could have cut that random episode in that town 146 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,840 that I already heard the name, yeah totally, the bonfires Vanik and and 147 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,200 the yeah so much. Let's cut the this guy's funeral, none of the 148 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,120 other stuff like that. Cut the funeral quant attacking the villagers with her shovel. 149 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,279 It's so much shit that I didn't need, and they threw in there. 150 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:15,279 So uh yeah, I just nothing else I can say a non spoilers. 151 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:16,799 The rest is all gonna be spoiler talk. And then he said I 152 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,120 know him being negative, and I said, I'm reluctantly positive, but there 153 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:24,320 are some stuff that I think that was really cool. It was nice to 154 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,360 see. It's just unfortunate that they implemented it in such a poor story narrative 155 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,519 way. So, man, one last thing I'll say before we Joe with 156 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,759 the spoilers. I was saying, I was thinking of certain shows while I 157 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:43,120 was watching this episode, one of them being Bobafet, and I absolutely hate 158 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,159 that show. That show actually brought down the character of Boba fet my eyes. 159 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,879 I just don't like that character. Anymore. It's funny because I feel 160 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:52,600 like before that he was just such a badass. He looked such a bad 161 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,039 like such a badass. Didn't really know too much about him, but I 162 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,759 just knew that he was a badass. That's pretty much the same thing with 163 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:01,840 me and master Chief. I feel like I don't actually know this character, 164 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:05,200 even like I've played him for so many like so many years throughout the Halo 165 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:11,399 campaigns, and I, like, again preface, I didn't like stay super 166 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:13,559 focused on like what goes on in the campaigns, mostly just like doing the 167 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,840 missions, probably cutting sorry skipping cut scenes here and there, but just the 168 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:20,519 character. I really don't know too much about him, but he's such a 169 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,320 badass. And then we're getting these like Pablo moments throughout this season, and 170 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,679 I'm just like, I just don't think I like this character anymore. You 171 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,840 know, you know, I should hold up and maybe dive into some books 172 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:35,639 because I'm like, well, actually, I guess there is some uh like 173 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:39,000 Halo Legends novels on Boba fet. I'm sure that like tell a good story 174 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,639 about him, and I know that there's great Halo books that you know, 175 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:46,919 talk about this character. But just for what portrayed in the show. I'm 176 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,120 just like, man, wea did take like just such an icon of a 177 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,840 character and just really make him feel like a Dufis And like doubling down what 178 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,080 I was saying, I'm just like, I think you don't really need this 179 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,440 character to tell this story. By the end of the episode, maybe he 180 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,080 is pretty for the story reasons, but uh yeah, it's unfortunate. Just 181 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,320 kind of how I'm feeling on Master Chief through two seasons. Like it's like 182 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:11,120 it's all like he was really good in season one, it's just overall the 183 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:18,799 character I'm not not fond of. Yeah, well, anything else you guys 184 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,480 got or should we taking that break and get into spoilers. I'm really just 185 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:26,720 spoiler it out all right, I'm gonna spoil it out in three two one 186 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,879 and we are back. So where do you guys want to start in the 187 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:37,200 world of spoilers. Well, I mean it's a big topic, but we 188 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:41,039 got to talk about the flood, right particularly, so you know last week 189 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,759 and just this whole scene, we've were talking about what the cannon event is 190 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:48,799 for, how Chief and others get to the ring, and how they've changed 191 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,200 that we kind of I think at this point, we've probably all accepted that, 192 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,360 or more mostly Taylor, who's like deep on the Lord. It's like, 193 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,279 okay, just how this series decided to make it. So we find 194 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:01,159 the ring, but I'm curious, but first of all, the flood, 195 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,799 Like how different this is from the games and books or whatever, because like, 196 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:07,240 I don't know, I could not tell you a single story beat about 197 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,159 the flood. I remember fighting them, but I don't remember like what the 198 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:15,039 origins are and whatnot. So I'm curious how like closely it compares and if 199 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,440 you like what I presume the twists and turns they've taken it in the series. 200 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,679 So every installation, every Halo installation has flood samples on it. And 201 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:31,320 after the Forerunners basically took out their food source because the Flood need anything with 202 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:37,039 the nervous system to tap into sentient life doesn't look good for us, so 203 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,200 that's what they need. And so when the flood was spreading, the fore 204 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:46,519 Runners basically put all the main species, humans, elites, everyone bruts all 205 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:50,879 in these capsules that would be unaffected by the Halo rings, and they activate 206 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,000 the rings, and the remaining four Runners died out, left the galaxy and 207 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,120 boom. There you go. They left the only remaining flood samples left in 208 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,919 the Halo Rings to be studied by future civilizations to create a cure. So 209 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:09,480 enter Halo one where you have the Covenants on the Ring. The Covenant encounter 210 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,720 the flood and they seal off the flood and contain it well. Captain Keyes 211 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,000 and the unsc think that it's actually a weapons cache that the Covenant was stockpiling, 212 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:22,759 so they take out the Covenant guarding the area and break into it, 213 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:26,159 and the flood just go rampant and they go loose. The flood spread all 214 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:30,879 over the Ring, and it gets to the point where the flood take over 215 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,480 like the Covenant cruiser, and they take over keys, and they're turning Captain 216 00:14:35,559 --> 00:14:39,200 Keys into a Grave Mind, which is like a sentient. Flood are higher 217 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,759 key of command. So the flood at the base level of what they're what 218 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,799 you see in this episode two, they're like drones. Anything that's living nearby, 219 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,720 they're going to attack, and their objective is to grow rapidly, expand 220 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:56,399 and to form a colossal organic piece called the Grave Mind, and that Grave 221 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,600 Mind will then be able to distribute commands and collectively consciously control everything like a 222 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:05,919 hive mind. So that's their goal. And in Halo one, all the 223 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,360 flood gets destroyed. That's great. And then obviously they find another installation, 224 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:13,240 another Halo ring in Halo two, and that has flood on it. The 225 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,240 flood outbreak kind of occurred sooner without the Covenant and the humans getting there, 226 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:20,440 and the Grave Mind formed on there, and the Grave Mind is the villain 227 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:24,240 Halo three. And yeah, yeah, yeah. There are other worlds that 228 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:31,159 have flood outbreaks, you see that in Halo, Halo Wars and such, 229 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:37,759 but this in particular is very different. It's different because to my knowledge, 230 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,080 Onyx didn't have a flood outbreak, it didn't have any flood related stuff in 231 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:48,080 the Forerunner vault that they checked into the way that the flood spreads. There's 232 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:54,320 only one instance where you see maybe a character get infected in Halo where they 233 00:15:54,320 --> 00:16:00,840 aren't directly attached by like an infectious form and the infectious forms. I took 234 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,440 this with a grain of salt, and I really tread lightly in here and 235 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,120 their adaptation of the flood, and actually I'm pretty positive to it, because 236 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:10,759 well, they they they've skipped over meeting the flood on the Halo Ring, 237 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:12,039 which I think is a shot in the foot. I really don't like that. 238 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,879 I don't like how they introduced it as spores here, but the fact 239 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:21,320 that it is spores in this little device I'm okay with and I can I 240 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,879 can get on board with that for the most part. The little smaller infectious 241 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:29,600 forms things, I thought that was interesting, A normal flood sized infection form, 242 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:30,320 like yeah, I'm sure you guys have seen in the game. So 243 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,679 they're like the size of a human head, maybe a bit bigger. I 244 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,080 think of the face grabbers from Half Life whenever I think of those things, 245 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,840 if you know what I'm talking about, basically the face grabber, the face 246 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:45,360 hugger from Alien as well to same idea. Yeah, I don't know if 247 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,559 that answers your question, Dylan, No, I mean that even just like 248 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,759 the origin of them being on the ring generally speaking versus Yeah, it coming 249 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:56,799 from that vault and Onyx getting taken up to the space station and then breaking 250 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,639 open there and spreading from there. So you'd think, like, I mean, 251 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,079 I guess it's two like one, it is kind of contained to that 252 00:17:03,119 --> 00:17:07,000 ship. But then also once it gets smart enough, it can use these 253 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,720 ships to like navigate elsewhere and keep spreading. I guess, so that kind 254 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,319 of sets up kind of two ways that it could occur if we were to 255 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,839 get to a season three there. But no, I like to hear that 256 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,960 that kind of difference of the origin of it. But I that was just 257 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,440 to me. I thought it was like really successful in this episode. And 258 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,880 once again, I'm not really comparing it to my knowledge of the story because 259 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,200 in the Games, because oh my god, my memory is not that good. 260 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,920 But I thought like the horror element of it, the creepy element of 261 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,039 it, the way it was shot, you know, the very zombie like 262 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,160 acting of these people, and then eventually we do get like more of the 263 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,119 kind of pussy flood that we know and love, and you just love shooting 264 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,559 their pimples and watching them pop and all that stuff. I thought all of 265 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:52,640 it was just fun. I mean, I just love a good zombie movie, 266 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,240 and it was just like that kind of contained within the finale of this 267 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,319 show. So yeah, definitely made for a lot going on in this episode. 268 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,759 But I thought all of it was was good. And also, you 269 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:07,519 know, not a big fan of Soren and in that whole family, and 270 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:10,559 you know, Lara she's she's a bit the bullet. Now she's gone, 271 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:14,880 So I guess that's a that's a plus Onli And sorry sorry Lara about that. 272 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,079 Yeah. I for me, I don't know, I feel like I'm 273 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,200 not fully sold on the Flood as of right now, like it maybe it's 274 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:29,319 just too close to how like Infected in the Last of Us kind of went 275 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:32,079 like that show is still kind of kind of sleep my mind with the sport. 276 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,319 Yeah, like the I think specifically the harry in the mouth thing, 277 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,160 the hairry in the mouth thing, the hairy mouth object that was in there, 278 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:41,799 Yeah, coming down their throat. It was just a little bit too 279 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,680 samesease in that sense. I did like when like the zombie carried well, 280 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:52,400 I guess just the infected uh started to like really morph into like the objects 281 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:56,440 a little bit more that I remember, from looking more like flood like as 282 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,599 opposed to just being like a zombie. But I don't know, Like maybe 283 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:06,599 we'll see next season if it's a little bit more like the Flood that we 284 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,680 know as opposed to just zombie characters, maybe that'll that'll win me over a 285 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,119 little bit more. The whole infection thing. Yeah, I'm with you. 286 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:15,400 Like I didn't know the origins of the flood or like kind of how all 287 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,559 that stuff worked. Thanks to the wiki that is Taylor Field over here, 288 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,400 I'm definitely a lot more knowledgeable on that now, so thanks for that. 289 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:30,200 But yeah, I think I was mostly just looking for the versions of the 290 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,119 flood that I recognize, and because I didn't get that it it was a 291 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,319 little bit like, eh, okay, I do like just the overall threat 292 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,680 of what the flood is, and I wish that was maybe talked about a 293 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,200 little bit more on the scenes that we got from like McKee and The Covenant, 294 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,680 you know, aspect of it, Like they don't really unless I'm like 295 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,559 really mistaken, Like they don't really seem too bothered by the flood right now, 296 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,640 a like throughout their conversations through the season. It's not like it's been 297 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,880 a big focal point. It's mostly just about funny they are. They aren't 298 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,079 even aware at this point, which is a shame because when they learned about 299 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,599 it in the games, like it's pretty like it scares them, Like they 300 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,240 they're terrified at this And I like that neutral threat on the on the both 301 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:17,119 sides, because I think on the surface, when you see Halo, you 302 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,519 know, like general viewer, you would see like the human side, you 303 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:23,279 know, the unsc and the Covenant side, like those are the two armies. 304 00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:26,839 So I think even just playing through the games, like I remember the 305 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:30,079 first time I encountered like a Covenant shooting at the flood and not me, 306 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,599 I was kind of like, oh, this is this is interesting, like 307 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,440 uh, And then obviously as the games go on, it's just the threat 308 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,359 of the flood is so much bigger and so much scarier as they go along. 309 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,200 So I do hope I think that we get there as like the big 310 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:51,240 threat in between. But yeah, like personally, I just think the delivery 311 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,000 of the flood it didn't hit the mark like I was maybe expecting it too. 312 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:59,119 But there was a couple of weird choices, like the first scene when 313 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,640 happens and is like doing her microscope stuff and there's the other lady and she's 314 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,960 like the first one that we see get infected. Like the music choice in 315 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,519 that scene was really fucking weird. I yes calling that out. I completely 316 00:21:11,559 --> 00:21:15,920 forgot to write that down, but I was so like tripped out by the 317 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,000 music that was going on. And then it's just like showing a bunch of 318 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:21,599 like transmissions. I guess, like it just keeps going to like different people 319 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:23,559 that I guess would be getting exposed. It'd be like a zoom behind or 320 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:29,960 something in terms of the vibe of it. Yeah, very uh interesting choice. 321 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,559 And m Taylor, can you, well both of you, I guess, 322 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:37,039 but can you guys help me explain what's going on with the vision? 323 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:41,480 And Kwan I that was a scene I had to watch a couple of times 324 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,160 and I was still a little bit confused. My understanding is that this vision 325 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,119 that she's been having is like, I don't know, some thing in her 326 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,960 head to do with the flood, and she's somehow related to the flood. 327 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,599 And then she's like a protector of the flood. But she's like she helped 328 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,839 I guess get the flood out of that vault, and that was like always 329 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:04,640 her purpose. I'm a little I'm a little lost on it. Even after 330 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,680 watching the scene a couple of times. She's like she's an original character and 331 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,920 I don't know anything about characters like this that can make the flood come into 332 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:21,200 like a standstill, and like dead old Lady Priestess has the ability to control 333 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,079 the flood too, like this is totally new, unless it's in some Halo 334 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,920 book that I have not read. I think this is just an original concept 335 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,799 stemming from an original character, and I'm not super big on it. Like 336 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:38,640 the only time the flood wouldn't attack he was when the Grave Mind makes them 337 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:45,039 not attack, which he's done in the games. So I was at first 338 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,440 when she like the vision of the old Lady, she like stops the flood 339 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,839 from advancing, and then she's like talking about how like we are all your 340 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,359 ancestors, and I'm like, oh no, Kwan's gonna be like the origin 341 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,480 of the flood and it's all attached to her like family. I was so 342 00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:02,880 like worried in that moment because one hundred percent thought that's where we're going. 343 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,599 And then and then she goes off like I can only hold them for so 344 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:08,279 long ago, and I was like, Okay, this is uh, this 345 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,039 is like a third party coming into it, which is Kwan's ancestors, and 346 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,559 yeah, just again, like that's that whole story isn't really working for me. 347 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:19,720 Although I've like maybe warmed up to the character of Kwan, I think 348 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,799 the more important she's becoming, the less interested I'm kind of being becoming in 349 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:30,240 that aspect. But the way the ladies talking about it is that like she's 350 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:34,559 definitely affiliated with the flood, and she's talking about how like it was a 351 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:41,200 prophecy that Kwan would be the one to free them from their cave whatever and 352 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,480 help them spread. And so I guess the part that doesn't really make sense 353 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,319 to me is like where, why why they're letting Kwan go? Like she's 354 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,200 fulfilled her purpose at this point, why not let her become one with with 355 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:55,440 them? Don't think they let her go. I think it was legit, 356 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Like the old lady said, like, we're we can hold them off only 357 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,759 for so long, so it was kind of just cut off. Yeah, 358 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,319 we didn't really get it. Yeah, conclude, I took it as the 359 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:11,480 fact that Kwan has some sort of ability of not repellent, but like a 360 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:17,200 protective ability or something that can like withstand or withhold or keep the flood at 361 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,319 bay of some some shape or form. Ultimately, with all the talk about 362 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,599 four hunder DNA and whatnot, I wouldn't be surprised if she's got some type 363 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:29,480 of forehinner DNA and her family tree or something like that that gives her this 364 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:37,680 whatever ability that they've conjured up. I don't know. Yeah, that parts 365 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,799 a little bit confusing for me, for sure. It is. It is 366 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,880 just to add to what you guys said with the flood, like I already 367 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,240 said, I think that it was it was, it was. I enjoyed 368 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,279 it. I did. And I think that the way that the spores were 369 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:56,119 acting like airborne, I like that. I think it makes sense as I 370 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200 said that only one character I think has been affected airborne while the rest are 371 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,440 infected with like the actual infection forms themselves. The way the characters everyone was 372 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:08,799 just kind of standing still and it was happening at an accelerated rate, it 373 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,960 was really really unnerving and uneasy and uneasy, Yeah, uneasy, just to 374 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:21,039 kind of like see that. I enjoyed the movements when they would like tweak 375 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:25,400 and stuff like that a little bit that that was really well done in Yeah, 376 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,480 crack in the neck. And I really liked when that one flood form 377 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:32,240 just started to like break through the cell and like squish out and like that 378 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,039 was super super freaky, really well done. Again, my takeaway is that 379 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,279 I feel like they should have done this in another future episode, but it 380 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,480 is what it is. When they're in the control room, and the flood 381 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:48,079 just start taking over in that room and like tweaking out, and everyone's like 382 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,759 trying to figure out what's going on, and Parrenggovsky gets fucking mauled by dozens 383 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,240 of flood forms. But the one scene where Halsey gets and closes the door, 384 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,400 I hate shit like this. It's just because it grows as me out. 385 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,599 But the person's banging for help in the flood form like goes on her 386 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,960 eye, like goes like, oh, just gnarly, gnarly. That's a 387 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,079 good nerve to go for if you're the flood. Yeah, well, yeah, 388 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,759 nervousness exactly what they go for. And fun little fact if you remember 389 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,519 Sergeant Johnson from the Games, I don't know if oh yeah, Marie, 390 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,319 did I give you permission to bitch? That's like one of my favorite lines. 391 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:27,519 He he You learned that he actually has an immunity to the flood through 392 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:33,559 he was subject to plasma damage from a plasma explosion finding the Covenant and it 393 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,279 actually affected his nervous system to the point where the flood could not infect it. 394 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,920 And yeah, they actually were at a point where they let Chief basically 395 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,599 make the decision whether they could take him and cut him up and harvest him 396 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,359 and find a cure for the flood, but Chief said, no, no, 397 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:56,160 no, we're not going to do that. So Chief looks like meats 398 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,920 back on the one of the Yeah, so the note I made for Pengngoski 399 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,039 is that, like, she's definitely getting messed up, but technically we don't 400 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:10,960 see her die on screen, so she could still be saved some some someone 401 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,799 with another gun. He could have shot the flood that we're on her. 402 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Maybe she didn't get bit yet, so I don't I'm not writing her off 403 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,640 yet. But also we kind of felt that way potentially about Keys of like, 404 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,680 oh, technically he could be alive, and he's like, no, 405 00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:26,680 he's he's long calling at this point. So if I had to guess, 406 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,480 I'd say she's dead, but there's there's a chance. There's a chance. 407 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,880 And then Halsey Halsey gets uh gets infected. I thought that was a nice 408 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,519 scene that she had with Miranda where she runs down to the lab to try 409 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,839 and just connect with her, but yeah, she gets infected. So she 410 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,519 throws her in a cryo in a cryo bed and then like, I don't 411 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,720 know it is Miranda gonna be like the last living person on this whole ship. 412 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,519 I guess, well, they're not even on a ship, right, 413 00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,160 They're still on ONYX on ONX space. Oh okay, I thought they were 414 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240 in like a space some space thing, so that I don't know. No, 415 00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:00,880 I doubt what she's getting out of that like that she's a little mouse 416 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:06,240 in that, because I guess Soren and Kessler escaped through that like basement thing 417 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:10,519 when then and then ley lay Leirah stayed. I thought her name was Layel 418 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:15,119 whole season until I had sub pedals on eventually, and so it's Laria or 419 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,319 something. So she's stays behind it they get out, but I guess, 420 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,839 yeah, Miranda, who knows she's gonna have to come back to get her 421 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,119 get Halsey out at some point. But I don't have to be long in 422 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,920 the future. They're watching her door now right, like she she freezes Halsey, 423 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,960 which Halsey getting infected by the flood is totally not Cana and this they're 424 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,960 changing. That's that was a bold story choice, really was, and I 425 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,839 mean it fooled me. I'm not actually hating it, but it definitely fooled 426 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,519 me. When she stopped talking and Miranda is like what Halsey? What, 427 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720 like, what's more important than than Yeah? And then like you look at 428 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:53,480 her, it's like, oh fuck, she's she's infected because she's doing a 429 00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:59,839 freezing thing and you see in the like, uh what am I trying to 430 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:03,279 say? A peripheral vision. You can see people around the room starting to 431 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,079 freeze too. It's just it's it's a nerve. Yeah. I did like 432 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:11,480 that detail with the like the flood just takeover, I guess of them just 433 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,319 freezing up with the Halsey thing. I just kind of thought she was safe 434 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:19,319 because she's such a great actor and like a great character as well. I 435 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,519 think she has like a lot of ties to numerous factors in the show, 436 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:26,079 so it makes sense to keep her around. But the second that she just 437 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,920 froze up like that, because I thought that she was so safe, it 438 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,920 definitely got me in the surprise factor. And I mean it shows some like 439 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,319 steaks right, like there is characters that are important that can still get infected. 440 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,440 Not Chief I bet, I bet he's gonna be fucking evincible. A 441 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:47,039 degree of shielding that can keep He's got an eyeslit. Now they can get 442 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:51,759 in there that's a big nerve to a right in the eyeball. Yeah, 443 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,799 I'm trying to think if there's any other flood related notes I had, But 444 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,440 I think that was I think that was it. Let me take a gander 445 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:07,240 here and see whatever went down for flood notes. Do you just have flood 446 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,079 notes like a section in your notes that you took more or less some of 447 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:18,680 my notes? I don't understand. You just write like keywords and you're like, 448 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,480 oh, remember what that mean? I like, I've done that. 449 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:22,920 I write a sentence and I had like hyphens to it and I look back, 450 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,599 like, what the fuck was I talking about? You watched this at 451 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,880 midnight? Right, so it was a while. Like actually I watched this 452 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,559 episode twice, actually not back to back. I watched it. I watched 453 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,880 the midnight and the next day I snuck it in another viewing and watched it 454 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,359 again. You sneaky, Yeah, I just watched that one scene again. 455 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,279 But Kirklan, you said a particular scene made you tear up. What was 456 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,279 what was that? Yeah? So that was the death of the arbiter. 457 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,960 Actually, I the whole like honor thing for him. That was totally just 458 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,799 like catching me off guard. I think of him just being this like outcast 459 00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,400 and like while this is going on, while she was just beating his face 460 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240 and he's like him to just put him out of his misery and like restore 461 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,119 his honor. I'm like, I just fucking want to show about like the 462 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,640 Covenant like this sort of aspect, like give me Arbiter is the main character, 463 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,319 and like I want to see his his redemption quest and like just all 464 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:17,480 of like like hit like where he went wrong and why he like he is 465 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,160 the Arbiter right now. Like I am so interested in that story just because 466 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,839 of kind of what I've seen from him in the season, which has been 467 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,119 so minor. And then yeah, he's just like this defeated soldier. He's 468 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:32,160 he's just down and out and he's just begging for death and then of course 469 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,319 the Demon gives it to him, and I was just like wow, like 470 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,559 that, like there's some music in there too. I'm like, man, 471 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,000 they made me like miss the Arbiter and that's not even the Arbiter that I 472 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,279 know from the games, right, So I mean, yeah, like we've 473 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:51,039 lost Commander keys Halse. He's infected now, like there is some really big 474 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,839 blearra like she's gone. There's some big players that I should be more attached 475 00:31:53,839 --> 00:32:00,279 to, but uh, this super side character was the one that I was 476 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,920 the most invested in. So goodbye Arbiter. I don't think we'll get a 477 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,799 replacement Arbiter. I don't expect that happened throughout the show, But I don't 478 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:10,920 know. I I am glad that you know, Taylor, we're joking about 479 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,920 Pablo's face off with the Arbiter with no armor and the energy so arm. 480 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960 We're like, this could be so cool. Hey, we got that finally 481 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,240 by the by the end, so I was definitely happy to see that. 482 00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,640 But yeah, and like the whole setting of I'm usually just dogging on CGI 483 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,839 in like daylight. It just usually looks way too bright. But I thought 484 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,720 that they like really blended that well. It probably helps that like everything I 485 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:37,000 guess is CGI in that moment. But still I thought it was a really 486 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:43,079 good fight scene, really good ending, and yeah, just yeah, I 487 00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:45,920 don't know, I was I was. I was surprised how I felt with 488 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,519 that episode or that part of it. Yeah, I thought it was a 489 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:52,359 fun battle. I'm surprised Arbiter is gone. I thought he would be he'd 490 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440 have a longer run. I guess if the show this might just be the 491 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,960 end of the show in general, might not get the season three, So 492 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,680 in that sense, I guess it makes sense to have more conclusive ending there. 493 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,119 But I like the battle like that. There's kind of two phases where 494 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,160 Arbia was just destroying Chief and then he starts using the grappling hook and starts 495 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,079 messing him up, so he kind of have that. I think, once 496 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:15,119 again my criticism here is that of like almost all the action in the show, 497 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,240 just like the shaky cam is way too much. It really bothers me. 498 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,680 I think that's the only thing that made the scene look a little janky, 499 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,480 But otherwise I thought it looked really solid. So yeah, it was 500 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,279 a fun a fun duel, and I just love the setting of the Halo. 501 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:31,880 I guess it's just like British Columbia pretty much. It really looks like 502 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,799 our backyard. But it is really beautiful. And even that scene when he's 503 00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:38,839 looking out and like those towers are rising through the woods and mountains in the 504 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,359 distance just like really cool. So it's a great backdrop with a pretty good 505 00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:49,119 fight with pretty good steaks, and especially Arbora when he's having those last couple 506 00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,279 of lines on like one of his mouth tentnacles is like completely broken and not 507 00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:57,599 working anymore. Brutal stuff, but yeah, a really fun scene. It 508 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:04,000 was probably Pablo's hometown because apparently it's them, like British Columbia, Like, 509 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,000 I got a great place, guys, we'll go film there. That's why 510 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:13,679 I got the role. I agree. It was the Halo ring it looks 511 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,800 beautiful and the Arbiter seeing him pass away here. I didn't like a lot 512 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,800 of the stuff with the Covenant and their whole hierarchy and their their dialogue. 513 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,840 I feel like we got just a taste of it, but we didn't get 514 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,280 to explored enough. And that's what makes Halo Too shine so hard is the 515 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:34,639 deep dive into the Arbiter is a character, and the deep dive into the 516 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:39,880 hierarchy of the Covenant. It's just a it's a freaking fantastic story. And 517 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,119 they killed the Arbiter and they kept m key Are you kidding me? Like 518 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,239 Chief like looks up and mckey's got her power sets like I'm a demon too. 519 00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:52,280 It's like, what the fuck are you babbling on about? Get the 520 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,000 fuck out of here. God damn. Then she's gone. It's just so 521 00:34:55,199 --> 00:35:00,039 stupid. I'm like to take her out and take the Arbiter going through this 522 00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:04,280 journey, Like you don't, that would make more sense. I feel of 523 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,599 like having like you know, the human demon and then like the Covenant demon. 524 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,119 They're like pretty similar power levels. But go m key there, No, 525 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:14,159 you got fucking McKee. Like, she's not a demon, she's not 526 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,760 doing anything. Get out of here. God damn. It was even pretty 527 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,920 awkward just like she goes, she has the dramatic like the door closes behind 528 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,719 her as she goes into the structure, and then he follows her like four 529 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,119 seconds later, and then she's like long gone. It was like, how 530 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:34,679 did she get so far in this short period of time. It was very 531 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,119 weird stupid. Maybe her key opened up a different door. It just it 532 00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:40,719 was like a shortcut, and then when he did it, it was a 533 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,079 long way. Well it looked like, oh, sorry, go ahead. 534 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:46,719 I was just gonna say one last detail on that fight that I loved was 535 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,840 when the Arbiter just like super power smashes energy sort of just like shattered chiefs, 536 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,760 and like the plasma just like went all over them. I didn't never 537 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,679 thought that could happen because obviously I don't think that's ever been shown in the 538 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,840 video game before, but such a sweet detail in the way that it was 539 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,519 just like like just chewing away at his armor. I love that. I 540 00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,320 love that sequence. Mm hmm. Yeah, everything about it was was great. 541 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,400 The plasma like went onto his suit a little bit and like sizzled. 542 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,920 That was really cool. They really didy could job with the CGI and and 543 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,559 all that in that scene too. And before McKee leaves and then Chief looks 544 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,159 up, you can see another tower rising up, and I'm not sure what 545 00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:29,920 that is in response to they kind of we're kind of mysterious about that. 546 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,519 But then it looked like it was like the human fleet of ships getting ready 547 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:37,519 to land or at least approach orbit of the Halo Ring. I think it 548 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:39,000 was human ships or it was Covenant ships. It was a quick scene. 549 00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:44,320 You just see a bunch of ships incoming, so I wasn't sure how to 550 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:50,480 take things. It's very quick. Maybe just the wars coming to both well. 551 00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:53,239 I mean, like we'll talk about it a bit. Kai took out 552 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,480 that main Covenant carrier and then paren Goosky's like the tides of turned. Now 553 00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:01,559 we got the upper hand. Oh my god, you never have the upper 554 00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:04,960 hand. It's a fucking Covenant. They made it seem like that was the 555 00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,559 end of the battle, like they just Oh, I felt like, this 556 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,119 is it. This is all of humanity and all of the Covenant. And 557 00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:15,039 my fear, my genuine fear, is that that is the case. This 558 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,079 is this is all of humanity, that's all the Covenant, and the flood 559 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,639 is not going to get further than Onyx. We're just gonna see it in 560 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,400 this little area. Miranda's gonna find a cure stop it, and then they're 561 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,960 gonna go back to just McKey and Chief trying to make the halo. There 562 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:35,039 on Home Demon two. Oh, what a stupid line. Jesus christ Man. 563 00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:38,159 You just mentioned Pengowski there and a character I've definitely just I don't know 564 00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:42,719 if I ever loved her, but this season definitely did nothing in the in 565 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,519 the love category for I. I just laughed so hard in that sequence. 566 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:50,079 But she's like, finally the Todds have turn like like we won the battle, 567 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,639 and the whole like lead up to that moment, she's like control, 568 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,239 Chief, Chief, listen to me. He's like like she's just so not 569 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,599 in control. Of the situation and then Kai basically like ignoring her again, 570 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,960 just like pilots. The ship destroys the like the main Covenant ship, and 571 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,159 then she's just like all right, going exactly the plan. Like she just 572 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,880 seems like such a goofball in the in this episode, specifically, especially when 573 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,559 she's trying to talk to Chief, and I just love the idea that Chief 574 00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:20,239 could just hear her like the entire time, because as soon as Halsey comes 575 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,079 in, he like replies instantly, and I'm like, oh my god, 576 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:27,880 Like the Halsey stuff was so funny too, because she's like, tell Halsey, 577 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,599 tell Chief to listen to you and do this thing. Halsey immediately doesn't 578 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,840 do that. It tells him like how to infiltrate into the ship. And 579 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,960 they don't even care, Like they don't do anything to Halsey. They don't 580 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,039 put her into prison, they don't send her out of the room. They're 581 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,480 just like, yeah, I guess she can hang out in the command center 582 00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:45,639 and continue to go against our plans, Like they don't even care that she's 583 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:50,679 continuing to be there. It's so goofy, the logistics of that. The 584 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,599 Yeah, she's just so goofy. Her dialogue with Chief really did crack me 585 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,559 up. When she goes in the coms like Chief, it's so good to 586 00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:04,000 see your alive, and you're here fighting with our troops and everyone's listening to 587 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:09,480 this conversation. It's just it really makes me laugh. She's on speakerphone as 588 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,519 he's just like shit talking her, and like the whole season, like she's 589 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,760 been trying to basically stop Chief from like being in this position. So yeah, 590 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,519 this season has not done her justice at all. And uh yeah, 591 00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,480 not a character I going to miss by any means, no more fluid Odd. 592 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:30,119 In this episode, Chief, I brought your favorite tea from a from 593 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,079 a farm on Earth. And then by the end of the conversation, I 594 00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:40,760 actually did it in elab it wasn't real. Kai Do you think kai Is 595 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,639 is dead? Another one that's like ambiguous, like she could you could see 596 00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:47,199 like in season three, it just shows that shot again and then she like 597 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,639 twinkles her toes and she's she's just knocked out temporarily because her body wasn't like 598 00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:57,760 you know, imploded or anything like. She's still floating there, so could 599 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,320 go either way. But I think I think I'm fine if that's the the 600 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,079 end of that character. Spartans never die, they only go missing. And 601 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,400 I I don't think that she's dead except for except for the one that we 602 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,440 saw die straight up, plus all the Spartan threes. You know, they 603 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:22,559 definitely got mrked. They went through a few squads of Spartan threes. But 604 00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:23,960 uh, yeah, no, I I don't know. I feel like the 605 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,960 fact that she still has her helmet on like it could be contained in that 606 00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:34,960 moment. It's nice dramatic like send like you know, like fake out maybe 607 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,920 as a good way of say it. If they do that, go that 608 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,760 route, I'd be kind of surprised if that is the end of that character. 609 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,719 But I think at one point I would have been emotional about her passing 610 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:53,239 away. Yeah, but not anymore. I don't think she's dead. I 611 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,840 feel like that if they ended on the scene of for It just crashing into 612 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,440 the Covenant carrier and that was it, then I would believe it. But 613 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,159 the fact that we got that second shot of her floating in space. We 614 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:10,079 know that those Milner armor suits are definitely space resistant or space proof, but 615 00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:16,320 the big thing too, and I don't know if they're gonna really this might 616 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:22,159 be too much of a call callback for the showrunners to do, because I 617 00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:25,760 feel like they're just like, fuck the Lore. But in Halo, in 618 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,159 the events of Halo one, uh it mattered. She was not the only 619 00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:31,679 spartan two on the Pillar of Autumn when they crashed lined on the ring. 620 00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:37,159 There was another spartan called Linda, who is a character that actually comes back 621 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,760 in Halo four five Halo five Guardians. Actually she's part of the Chiefs Blue 622 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:47,159 Team squad with Fred and Kelly, and so Linda she got the names. 623 00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:54,800 I'm just like John, Linda and Fred over that's a good point. Actually, 624 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,920 John is a very basic game. Sorry, the John's things. So 625 00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:05,840 Linda gets injured, I believe on Reach, Chief and Linda are fighting on 626 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,519 Reach and that's when they bounce. Chief takes Linda, puts her on the 627 00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:14,480 pillar bottom, puts her into a cryotube, keeps her like alive until they 628 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,320 can get medical help. So same play. It's it's very similar in that 629 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,679 regard. Actually, you're right. So they get to the Halo Ring and 630 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,320 being pursued by the Covenant. So when the Pillar Bottom crash downs on the 631 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,639 ring, it jettisons the pods out into space. And so Linda's in cryo, 632 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,679 floating in space, and Chief proclaims her after he escapes the Halo Ring 633 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,679 in the first game brings her back to Earth. So that's what makes me 634 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,079 think, here you have this Spartan too, floating around outside the Halo Ring 635 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,920 kind of like unconscious. I just feel like that's a pretty good call out 636 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,599 to the same scenario that happened with Spartan to Linda. But again, I 637 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,960 don't know if the show I don't even if the show winners know that they 638 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440 could have just done this just as their story without reading them to the lore 639 00:42:53,679 --> 00:43:02,840 they don't know about. They don't. Uh, Cortana and shef are back 640 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:10,079 together. M h, what do you guys think about that? I mean, 641 00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,360 I think it's a little bit weird how much they they love each other. 642 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,400 I'm just gonna I feel like I've never felt that that tie throughout the 643 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,480 games, like their unit throughout the games. But in here they're just still 644 00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:23,480 something a little bit extra, a little little extra sparkle that they give these 645 00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:30,159 two characters for my liking. Uh, Yeah, it's rushed, i'd say, 646 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:32,239 because there's definitely there, definitely is. I feel like that's Sparkle, 647 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,159 but it always feels platonic when it gets into the later Halo games, and 648 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,800 not like a super sexualized version, but even the sense of like Kurtana being 649 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,800 adult human sized, you don't you see that here, But you don't see 650 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,639 that until Halo four after they've been through so much, at the very end 651 00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:52,239 of the game. But here, no, she just pops up human size 652 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,960 like ready to you know, Pablo, let's fucking do it here on the 653 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:04,719 Halo Ring of all things, like speaking through the character to the actor. 654 00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:10,440 But but I mean, I like her as the voice in his head and 655 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,519 stuff like that, giving him the information. But she gave up on him 656 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:17,920 pretty quick, like she's like, I'm here to rescue Kurtana's like too late. 657 00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,760 There's nothing you can do. We're both going to die, Like just 658 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:28,440 that's not my Kurtana. Yeah, she made a miscalculation. Apparently, She's 659 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,039 like, I've gone through all the all the simulations. This is only ends 660 00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:35,599 one way. Apparently, not fucking flawed. Man, she's not a good 661 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:42,000 AI. But yeah, just like when I guess it's when well, Paragowski's 662 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,559 getting Halsey to prevent John from like going to save the AI and like it's 663 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,920 just I don't know. I think the dialogue there is just like really bad 664 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,320 for me where she was just like she's more, She's more than just an 665 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,199 Ai and like all all of these things, Like I get it. Katana 666 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,960 is important to Chief. I only really know that because what's been pulled from 667 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:01,519 the games and like what I've taken into this show. I don't think the 668 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:06,920 show has done a good job but like really showing that that connection between the 669 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,519 two, mostly just because I think the season like they've really just been a 670 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:15,239 part and it's just like I don't know, I guess that relationship just peaked 671 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,719 last season and then they've just been trying to get that back, and now 672 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,360 now that they're back, I don't know, it's like it's probably a nitpick, 673 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,719 but it's just it's just their dynamic. I'm not super loving, which 674 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,000 is a shame because that's that's like a big that's the dynamic duo in the 675 00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:37,679 in the entire franchise. Really, I'm gonna add to that note after this 676 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,679 quick at Break and Back. So the note to that too was just like 677 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,920 Chief going after Kurtana and all that, Like this so much with Katana is 678 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,519 so important ye, there was a line here where Perngoski looked at Halsey and 679 00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:57,480 was like, you can build another one. It's not like I was trying 680 00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,119 to remember, Yeah, it's not like she just grew a fucking clone of 681 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:05,039 herself in a lab and then carved out her brain cavity and like went through 682 00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:08,679 a lot of crazy shit, like you can't just make another one that easily, 683 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,679 but not very bright. She doesn't know much, she doesn't even know 684 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,199 Linda. No. It's it is because when I think about the game and 685 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:22,119 the characters, I think about Chief Arbiter Johnson and Cortana, like those are 686 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,440 to me, like the four iconic characters and sports specifically, Kortana is like 687 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,800 one of the most iconic ones. The fact that I just don't care about 688 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,159 her at all in this show is kind of a kind of a bummer and 689 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,960 generally forgettable. And I feel like whatever arc she had this season with McKee, 690 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,079 the McKee kind of gets what she wants from her smashes her. I 691 00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:45,239 didn't really feel like that I had any attention to it either, And then 692 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,679 it was kind of Yanky's like, oh I jumped into the ship's ai. 693 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,199 It's like, Okay, what's going on here. I don't think it worked 694 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,159 it that way, but sure, whatever you say. So I don't know 695 00:46:53,239 --> 00:47:00,559 if if we do get another season of the show. I guess I'm looking 696 00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:05,159 more forward hopefully to the future of that of that character now that she's kind 697 00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,599 of with Chief in this more interesting place, and if they especially Chief now 698 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:13,719 he has less and less allies by the freaking minute in this episode because everyone's 699 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,239 dying off. I think that could be really good time now for us to 700 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,639 really dig into that those characters and build that bond between them. But yeah, 701 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,000 at this point in time, not not a character that I care too 702 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:34,760 much about. Mm hmmm, mm hmm, what agreed? Let me look 703 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,679 through my notes here. A couple quick hits for me Akerson. I was 704 00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:43,760 saying it this whole season, what a waste of a character. Oh yeah, 705 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,360 and he's still around too, right, like a full good guy. 706 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,480 Now, Yeah, I don't need him. He should have got flooded in 707 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,960 and stayed Miline Chief And the coin was that slow more or did he make 708 00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:04,000 it stop in mid air? I think it's slow mo it was? Did 709 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,119 you kirk him? What's your take? I thought? Did he make it 710 00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:12,320 Levitay? Does he have telekinesis. I don't like that. I really don't 711 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,280 like that. I'm gonna say slow for my own sake, I'm going to 712 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,039 tell I really don't like that. I think it's telekinesis. I don't know 713 00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:22,960 what I'd like, more like less, but seemed like telekinesis to me. 714 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,079 So what did I wrote a note on that specifically, I wrote, Okay, 715 00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:36,280 Chief is now Harvey Dent, so he's trying to figure out what to 716 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,079 do in the situation. So they flipped the coin just like Harvey Dent would 717 00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:43,480 do, but he knows the outcome, so he's just gonna flip it just 718 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,480 to do what he wants to do. Anyway, pretty much, it's kind 719 00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:47,559 of a thing with Harvey Dent, Right, he's got the trick coin. 720 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,199 I guess before he becomes too fair. I don't know Harvey. Yeah, 721 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,679 he makes his own. Oh he is fucking master chief literally not fucking but 722 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,000 he is the fucking master. So they didn't watch They didn't play the Hill 723 00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:04,719 Games to study up. They watched they watched The Dark Knight there like Dark 724 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:07,039 Let's make Halo this guy, or let's make Halo. Let's make Cheaf this 725 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:15,400 guy. Him the Dark Knight. Maybe they watched the other one with oh 726 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,400 I see, yeah, the old one. Yeah. Just I guess in 727 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:27,159 that moment too, when Chief is I guess regretting his decisions to just leave 728 00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:30,639 the Spartan Threes. I thought this was so ridiculous that, like he makes 729 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:34,639 this big moment of like telling Kai that he's not going with her. He's 730 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,960 basically just saying fuck you to the Spartan Threes, like I'm just gonna go 731 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,119 on my own mission. He gets like halfway to his mission, he's like, 732 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,400 I'm gonna do my telecnsis, flip on this coin, and then I'm 733 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,960 gonna go join them. It's gonna be awesome, And like it's kind of 734 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,039 directed in that sense of being like, oh my god, our Chief is 735 00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:53,800 here. But like for me as the viewer, I'm just like he's such 736 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,480 an asshole, Like he just lets so many Spartan Threes die and he ended 737 00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:02,639 up going by the end of like the anyways, like Perez was almost dead 738 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,280 because he didn't show up on time there, Like maybe maybe the mission would 739 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,719 have gone similar if he had just gone with them, but like still I 740 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,440 just thought that was such a weird, like weight of a decision in last 741 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,800 week's episode to be to just come back, and he's just there, and 742 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,960 then what does KAYI even say to him, Like, it's the Chief. 743 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:25,679 I thought you weren't coming. I thought you were saving humanity or something. 744 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,400 Yeah, yeah, something about humanity. He's like, you're welcome, and 745 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,559 I'm like, what a fucking tool. I hate this guy so much. 746 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,320 It's not my Chief, And like this is where I'm just thinking of Boba 747 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,480 fet and how that show just ruined that character. I'm like, they're not 748 00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:43,199 doing this character well at all, Harvey Dent, but he's not like Chief. 749 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,880 I want Linda. Make Linda the main character of the show. I'm 750 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,400 glad that you mentioned that, because you're totally right, hands down, one 751 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,239 hundred percent. If Chief was there at the start, that first squad that 752 00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:00,239 got obliterated would have survived because he just has god like luck. You just 753 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:05,800 wouldn't have gotten blasted. I bet like, if they keep mentioning this luckstat 754 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,159 that he has that like and he wasn't even there, he like, no, 755 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,440 I'm just gonna go join the team later. I guess began Alf you 756 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,840 know, show up on the third day of the Third Light would let them 757 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:21,599 clear out the joint first and then I'll saunder in after what a prick. 758 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:24,960 The scene with the Spartan threes, I did like all that kind of stuff. 759 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,239 I liked when Kai was there and they're in the drop ship and she's 760 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,719 like telling Prize like get it out of your head, all that kind of 761 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,360 stuff, and just I don't know where the ship just half of it fucking 762 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,760 explodes. Everyone just gets sucked out, Like man, that's fucking terrifying. 763 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:42,639 They're like flying through it. All the dead bodies are floating around too. 764 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,559 Yeah. That I love the way that that was done, especially like it's 765 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:52,239 such a similar situation that then that or Sorry that they did in the simulations. 766 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,000 I did like that it was basically like the exact same mission. Yeah. 767 00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,760 I just like that aspect. And then when they or what does Kaya 768 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,159 say? She's like, don't worry, like it's all gonna go all right, 769 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,760 and like as she's saying that, it just like blows up. It 770 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:10,159 honestly reminded me of like the like storming the beaches of like Normandy, when 771 00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:13,920 they're just like in the ships and there's just like ships all around them just 772 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,199 getting exploded by mortar strikes. It felt very similar in that sense. And 773 00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:22,719 they're just like floating through the debris, which is not actually a debris. 774 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,639 It's just like the first squads that went through. It's just so much psychological 775 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,119 logical damage that the troops are taking in that moment without even like getting boots 776 00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:34,000 on the ground, you know, to actually start the fighting. So I 777 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:37,400 really did like how chaotic that sequence was, because it was scary the way 778 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,599 that it was shot in the simulations, but like the real thing was just 779 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,039 turned up a whole another notch. And yeah, the soldiers were just their 780 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,679 morale was breaking as soon as they were all there. They're freaking out. 781 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,920 They were not they were not saying, let's be bees, guys, just 782 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,840 be bees going to the gun masses, you know. You know in Return 783 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,880 of the King when the scene where they see Aragne like a last and give 784 00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:04,800 leaving the army like we're going, where are you going? And then like 785 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,599 he leaves because it's no hope. That's when Chief is leaving and all the 786 00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:14,400 spartan threes, Lord Chief, where are you going? You reminded me of 787 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,400 another thing here, just to talk about the casualties. It wasn't just the 788 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,599 Spartan three is the Chief is responsible for So when when Perez and Ky were 789 00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,519 down the ground, I think Mullins was there too, but Kai looks back, 790 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,519 it's like, oh, the fleet's here, and you see the whole 791 00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,280 fucking UNSC fleet, which is super cool, and they're just they're coming in 792 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,719 full force. And Kai hops on the hops on the phone and it's like 793 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,880 I need an evac here, YadA, YadA, YadA, and you get 794 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,480 a response like yep, we're coming in hot. Bearing on your position. 795 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:47,079 You see a huge un SC ship comes in just gets fucking annihilated. You 796 00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:52,760 know who's fault that is, That's fucking Chief's fault. If he was there 797 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:58,199 and kind did call it in. Chief is responsible for thousands of fucking human 798 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:06,599 lives dying, and that you know, you couldn't get humanity. The coin 799 00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:12,039 told me, Oh my god, he's just so in his own world. 800 00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,000 But he does not give a ship about humanity. He's just chasing the high 801 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:21,800 once again of touching an artifact and touching the key with McKee. Yeah, 802 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:28,559 he's hoping to have a similar similar meet up with the Tell me about this 803 00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:34,119 forge mode dude. At the end, what's going on against three four three. 804 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,960 So every Hailo ring had, every installation has a monitor basically, and 805 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:45,559 these guys oversee and maintain the Halo rings to keep up the maintenance all that 806 00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:51,519 kind of stuff, and there their programming is where they are usually in the 807 00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:54,800 games referred to Cheap as reclaimer. It's because the fore Runners left Humanity is 808 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,039 to take up humanity, take up the mantle responsibility, take over all the 809 00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:01,039 fore runer, tack all that of stuff. That's why he refers to humans 810 00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:07,960 as reclaimers. And I really wasn't expecting him at the beginning of the episode. 811 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,840 I thought Chief it was after all the events and he was being interviewed 812 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,639 and asked about the flood all that kind of stuff. Right, Not the 813 00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:19,119 case. It is Guilty Spark, and so he's he is in Halo one. 814 00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:22,840 He's a companion of Chief kind of, and he is a reoccurring character 815 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:29,360 throughout the games. It's interesting the dialogue that's going on because it seems like 816 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:34,320 he's it's weird. I'm trying to figure out what's going on, really, 817 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,760 because usually when humans first arrived in the games, the monitor, Guilty Spark 818 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,320 was getting super excited and started doing all these different things on the on the 819 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:49,199 Halo rank getting things going because humanity was here and it's finally happening. But 820 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,480 this feels different. It felt like it didn't trust Chief. It trusted McKee, 821 00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:55,360 and Chief's trying to like figure out like, oh, what, you 822 00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,719 gave her this information, but you gave her the wrong information, like she's 823 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,599 she's evil, you need to trust me kind of a thing. I'm I'm 824 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,199 very excited to see this character and hopefully we get to see more of this 825 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,840 character in season three and what's gonna come out of it. But yeah, 826 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,480 I'm just I'm not sure, and I feel like it's another thing that's just 827 00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:15,400 so bold and just so much to put in here. People that are general 828 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,000 audience members, they're gonna be like, Okay, we've got zombies. Now 829 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,039 this is the Covenant not even a thread anymore because the Arbiter died, and 830 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,760 now what is this robot ball we got here? Like it's just a lot. 831 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,400 Yeah I forgot I forgot his name, but I definitely remember him popping 832 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,599 up here there. Side note, I always love that Forge mode, like 833 00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:39,960 contextualize how you're flying around and building stuff through being one of the robots as 834 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,400 well. Is there a reason his name is Guilty Spark because I remember that 835 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,000 name now. But it's like it's such a cool name but also not very 836 00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:52,280 foreign for Runnery. Yeah, it's no Linda. Yeah, and John's definitely 837 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,840 not creative enough to come with a name like that. Yeah, this is 838 00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:02,599 John at least. Oh, it doesn't seem like there's a real reason why 839 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,840 some of the other monitors they kind of malfunctioned. And oh interesting, the 840 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,960 monitor of the arc is called Tragic Solitude. That's interesting. My gosh, 841 00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:19,920 they all have like they almost have like Xbox generated gamers. We're just like 842 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,840 adjective noun kind of penitent tangent. That's another one that's an Xbox name right 843 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,719 there, Guilty Spark. It seems people are the people are thinking that he 844 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:38,559 just he chose his name h in Plan of the Apes. Yeah, the 845 00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:47,599 name of a king. Yeah, I'm it. I guess I got a 846 00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:52,000 Halo game question for you, Taylor, because you said each Halo ring has 847 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,000 a monitor, right, but doesn't the halar ring, Like, doesn't he 848 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:02,639 get destroyed? This Halar ring does get destroyed, but the monitor you see 849 00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:08,639 that it survives basically. Yeah. Interesting, No, I really liked that 850 00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:13,039 reveal. I like you were saying, I didn't know really what was going 851 00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,679 on in the interview. I kind of thought it was either a flashback or 852 00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:20,400 a flash forward or something along those lines. But I really liked the reveal 853 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,840 of it at the end. Although I like, I didn't know too much 854 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:30,559 about this guy. This this guy being the Monitor, I I do just 855 00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:34,760 remember him from like just throughout the games, like I remember seeing him, 856 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,920 so that when I saw him right there, it was like, Okay, 857 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,400 that's a cool that's a cool character to bring in this point in time in 858 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,079 the show. And yeah, I don't know, it seems like it's some 859 00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:49,280 sort of like a trial thing or something that it's like McKee and Chief I 860 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,280 guess are like competing on to get something out of like the Forerunner stuff. 861 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:58,800 That's I was a little bit confused with the dialogue between Guilty Spark and Chief 862 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,199 there, but I don't know. It was definitely a cool way that they 863 00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:06,800 had done that that sequence of like showing the interview, because it's an unfamiliar 864 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,000 voice, it's definitely not Accresson, it's definitely not any other characters that we 865 00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:13,760 had experienced before, And like I thought, maybe it was like a new 866 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,559 AI or something along those lines, which I guess technically it might be guilty 867 00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:25,239 sparks probably along those lines. But yeah, that's all my notes. I 868 00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:35,639 think I was actually impressed that between Chief and the Arbiter stuff, I was 869 00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:37,760 so expecting the show just trained me. I was so expecting him to just 870 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,679 take his helmet off for that entire fight, but like they actually kept it 871 00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:45,800 on. Definitely kudos to the show for finally doing what we asked. When 872 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,360 he first lands on the planet, he takes the helmet off, and I'm 873 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,239 like, there's no fucking reason to take this helmet off right now, but 874 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,320 whatever, and then, but so I thought from that point on he just 875 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,480 wasn't gonna be wearing the helmet. I am very glad that he put it. 876 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:02,400 He donned the mask, as one might say, so it's very very 877 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,760 underused throughout the show, but I'm glad they kept it at least for this 878 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,960 episode. That shot too, when he takes the helmet off and he's holding 879 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,159 it to his side. That's a snippet out of Halo Infinite, the original 880 01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:22,039 trailer cinematic that they released a little years and years ago. Oh yeah, 881 01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:27,519 that's right. I totally forgot about that. Yeah, but him with the 882 01:00:27,519 --> 01:00:30,880 helmet on, like he had those fight scenes on that Covenant corvette. That 883 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,119 was really cool too. When he's in the hallway fighting the elites, he 884 01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:36,400 like puts the plasma grenade, sticks it onto a guy's chest and he just 885 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,840 walks out of the smoke holding the energy sort. I was like, man, 886 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,199 that's pretty cool. As all the Spartan three is are just bleeding out. 887 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,239 Yeah, They're like where was he? You're welcome, you don't need 888 01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:51,840 to be there, like everyone's the master Chief and then he just shows up. 889 01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:57,880 I'm here and I saved the day. You're welcomes the beam from the 890 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,079 show. For me, there was a line that Guilty Spark had when he's 891 01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:07,000 talking to the chiefs. He said something about waiting in the dark, and 892 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,920 I was speculating that, Okay, are they gonna jump to the end here 893 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,920 and just put like a grave mind actually in this scene something lurking below, 894 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,760 because in Halo two, the Monitor basically got taken under control of that grave 895 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,599 mind, and the Grave Mind basically had it latched onto its tendrils and was 896 01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:28,960 talking to it and all that kind of stuff. So I wonder if maybe 897 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,519 there's there's something else on the Halo Ring that they're alluding to, but yeah, 898 01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:40,679 that's that's pretty much it. While the note again fucking McKee, but 899 01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:45,760 I wrote it feels now it's like humans against humans in this war. The 900 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,880 key being the representation for the Covenant is super lame. Uh So there's that 901 01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:57,639 agreed, And I think the only other thing I have is Vice Admiral Stanforth. 902 01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:01,400 He was introduced in Halo two and they mentioned him last episode. But 903 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,480 it's very cool to see his name mentioned again here as well. Basically in 904 01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:10,239 charge of the fleet. Uh you alluded to this earlier, Dylan. But 905 01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:14,719 when pres is being dragged, she grabs two needlers. It's a good shout 906 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:20,480 out to Halo two when they introduced the dual needlers as a new combat tool 907 01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:23,039 there. So I really like that Easter egg that was That was pretty cool. 908 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,400 Nice. It's like one of the most op weapon setups I remember from 909 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:34,199 that game. So peek, God damn needlers are really strong. Tak Otvan 910 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,239 took out and that's not supposed to die. Only one took him out. 911 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:44,639 Yeah, no suits, no suits. I have nothing else to add. 912 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,079 Yeah, I think that's it. That's all. I got h So I 913 01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:52,320 mean, in closing, what are your closing thoughts for this season? Give 914 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,960 a rating, give no rating. Yeah, it's just it's just, uh, 915 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,320 it's weird, right. I was down on the show for so long 916 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,599 and then like they kind of wrapped it up nicely for the most part, 917 01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:07,400 or at least, like you know, this episode was still like I feel 918 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,360 like, mostly negative, and so in last week there was a lot of 919 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:15,199 nippicks and whatnot as well, but it was at least like two episodes I 920 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,800 enjoyed watching a good, good hour in front of the TV catching up on 921 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,039 the latest. So yeah, I don't know. I guess it's at a 922 01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:27,039 point where it's like, man, I kind of do want like another season 923 01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:30,360 now, but I don't really know if we get it. And I think 924 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,400 within a couple of weeks if we if it gets confirmed that they're not making 925 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,880 it, I don't think I'll be heartbroken. But just in this moment, 926 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,639 there's some fun things that have been set up. We've kind of weeded out 927 01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:44,400 some characters that I'm not as interested in, so ideally we could reinvest in 928 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:49,559 some more new characters or characters I'm more interested in. Some new dynamics and 929 01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:52,880 whatnot. But overall, just you know, just a fun, like very 930 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,079 Halo centric episode. We got a lot of chief in the sue, we 931 01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:58,960 got a lot of flood, we got to be on the Halo for a 932 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,800 little bit. So just some fun stuff as a as a fan of the 933 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,280 games and whatnot. So yeah, I don't know, it's I guess it's 934 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:11,199 a bit bittersweet, and I wish the whole series, at least this whole 935 01:04:11,199 --> 01:04:15,119 season could have been as fun for me as these last two episodes were. 936 01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,559 But that's, you know, can't always get what we want. That's that's 937 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:23,280 what I got today. Yeah, that's hoping for Linda and we got no 938 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,639 Linda. Maybe, I mean, uh yeah. Overall, I think this 939 01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:33,480 is a pretty disappointing season for a disappointing show. Although they're like I was 940 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,880 getting pretty hyped with certain moments of this show, and I just feel like 941 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,079 it would have been better if those moments were spread out throughout the entire season, 942 01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:47,519 as opposed to just just having them just very minorly, and like, 943 01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:50,599 there's really not much for me to like want to rewatch this season. I 944 01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:54,719 think, if anything, it would be like this episode probably alone, and 945 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,000 there'd probably still be quite a few things I'd be able to fast forward through 946 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,480 and and like, this was my favorite episode of the season. So I 947 01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:05,639 am glad that we least ended on a high note. It would have sucked 948 01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:08,840 if, you know, we just peaked early on and it would have been 949 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,559 like a drag, because it, like this season definitely felt like a drag 950 01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,880 at numerous points. But it was nice that they kind of picked it up 951 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:23,320 here at the end. I think that if the show gets canceled and and 952 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,159 like we don't get another season, I'll be I'll be okay with that. 953 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,480 I think, although there is some nice questions that they're they're leaving us with, 954 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,320 like at the end of the season here, I'm really just not attached 955 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,880 to the show to the point that if if it is canceled, like if 956 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,360 I never get those answers, I'll just I guess I'll be okay with that. 957 01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:44,920 But I don't know. I guess it won't be. There'll be something 958 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,639 that if if it gets announced and we get that next season, they'll there'll 959 01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:49,199 be some things where it's like, okay, well, I'm at least a 960 01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:54,039 little bit excited to get that answered, but uh, I don't know. 961 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,360 Hopefully that they listened to our reviews throughout the season and just learn from our 962 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,480 criticisms. Maybe not Pablo, though, I mean that might be too much 963 01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:02,880 for the man. He might not be It's true, Yeah, I know, 964 01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:08,039 but I'm okay, they kill that guy off here pretty soon, and 965 01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:12,559 maybe next season is just like all Covenant stuff, that would be cool. 966 01:06:12,599 --> 01:06:15,159 They would never do that because it's so bold, but maybe that's the show 967 01:06:15,159 --> 01:06:19,840 that I want. Looks like season three not confirmed yet, but the head 968 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,920 writer has said that he's he's already planned a lot of stuff, which is, 969 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,920 you know, potentially mean to be expected. If you're a writer of 970 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,159 the show, Yeah, ideally you think about future proofing your product a little 971 01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:34,320 bit, like all right, we got the next season, you got that 972 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:41,119 script? He's like what, but yeah, on episode eight spot, I 973 01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:44,119 think if I had to like rate this season, I would definitely have to 974 01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:48,320 give it a failing grade. I don't know, four point eight or something 975 01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:53,079 like something in that range. It Like I do want to pass it because 976 01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:57,960 of some of the big haloism stuff's in there, but like Kessler, we 977 01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:03,119 got like all all of that stuff with that family and like not a fan 978 01:07:03,159 --> 01:07:06,840 of what they're doing with the kwan Ha, the last of the Has, 979 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:11,639 and just the importance of that character. I don't need that at all in 980 01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:15,880 this show. So yeah, I somewhere in that failing grade right now. 981 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:24,880 I'll give it the high four. Yeah. I this this show. The 982 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:31,239 back end here had things that I liked, but as a Halo fan in 983 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,199 general, I think that everything that they've done so far in this season has 984 01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:45,239 been very convoluted, poorly written, and very controversial. I don't like how 985 01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:49,400 they're telling the story. I really don't. I feel like they're I stand 986 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:55,039 by the fact that I feel like the showrunners watched Halo in five minutes on 987 01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:59,239 YouTube and then just are pulling their favorite things and sprinkling it in in a 988 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:09,199 very loosely cohesive forward narrative that is playing off the main game story but still 989 01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:14,599 trying to be its own thing, the original the original ideas that they've introduced 990 01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:17,439 to. Again, I'm not really enjoying it. I like certain parts of 991 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,560 Quant's character in the show, but then it just gets sprinkled in with other 992 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:27,840 things that I'm not enjoying. The stuff with Kessler not really a fan this, 993 01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:30,359 other scenes too that just I can't help, but I shouldn't laugh because 994 01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:33,199 some of them is pretty dark, but stuff like we talk about just laughing, 995 01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:36,840 like when they're training, like Kessler and the other kids and this man 996 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:42,319 comes out of the smoke with his fucking baton thin and he's gonna beat these 997 01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:45,079 kids down, which is horrible and then full on fucking sore and comes out 998 01:08:45,119 --> 01:08:47,920 like there's stuff like that that makes me laugh. Other stuff too, with 999 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:53,159 Pablo, just his his decisions like yelling at the guy changing the fucking sign 1000 01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:59,720 on the wall. Just so many different things that yeah, there's so much 1001 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,880 weird shit. And then the character dynamics too that just they're so different from 1002 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:09,159 their their counterparts and the games and the books. It it hurts me as 1003 01:09:09,159 --> 01:09:12,720 a Halo fan. But I stand by that sentence that I saw someone post 1004 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,600 online, like is it an okay sci fi show? Like it has its 1005 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,600 it has its merits, but it's a very bad Halo show, And I 1006 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:24,279 stand by that. I think it's very very spot on. Other people seem 1007 01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:29,680 to enjoy this online and I'm baffled, but hey, you're entitled to enjoy 1008 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,159 what you enjoy, and if you enjoy this show, then by all means 1009 01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:35,279 you're helping us get that third season, So there you go. I'm gonna 1010 01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:38,640 give this, however, a four out of ten. I'm not going to 1011 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,840 pass it. I genuinely think that it could have been better on many aspects. 1012 01:09:43,079 --> 01:09:45,880 Is it better than season one? I'll say yes. I don't remember 1013 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,520 what I gave the first season. I'm pretty sure I would have failed it, 1014 01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:53,880 but I would put this over it in terms of rewatchability and just how 1015 01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:58,159 I enjoyed it. So there's that. But I would like to see a 1016 01:09:58,199 --> 01:10:01,680 season three. I'm not gonna lie. The finale definitely tempted me to put 1017 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,800 my toe into that pool and hopefully we'll see something. If they cancel it, 1018 01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:11,279 then I'll just go play the games to see how the story ends again, 1019 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,479 and I'll leave it at that. So anything else you guys have in 1020 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,680 a conclusion here, No, it's been fun to ride with you guys once 1021 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:26,880 again on this on this show. But another reason. Yeah, that's another 1022 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,079 reason why I want to season three, so we can keep the ride. 1023 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,640 We can do other content too. We don't keep sticking around for retrospective of 1024 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:40,439 the games. Let's do that next yeah ship. Yeah, But ladies, 1025 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,800 gentlemen, thank you, for tuning in joining us on this adventure of Halo 1026 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,319 season two. So we'll be back next time. I'm in the geek Verse, 1027 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:53,199 so until then, you're welcome. Bye.