1 00:00:03,759 --> 00:00:13,400 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks, your source of information 2 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:17,559 and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Fuck off to step 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:23,839 on, stay lots. Here's your hosts, Jesse Soup Here and Victor Nuno 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:31,039 Fantasy Hockey Live. We're back, Victor Nuno, Jesse Severe. Ready to 5 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:36,039 talk some Vancouver Canucks. Victor, how you doing today? I'm doing awesome, 6 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,920 Jesse. Yeah, I'm really excited to talk Canucks. They have some 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,840 pretty good fantasy assets and some pretty strong performances this year. I think we 8 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,159 need to dig in and figure out if these are going to continue or what's 9 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,000 going on with them. How are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm 10 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:55,039 doing great. It's it's a wonderful time of year. You're listening to us 11 00:00:55,039 --> 00:00:58,439 in the past, but we still are not done with the Stanley Cup playoffs 12 00:00:58,479 --> 00:01:02,399 and you're probably listeners are a little bit further along. But that's just how 13 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:04,760 life is going to go. But yeah, Victor, I'm I'm fired up. 14 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:10,239 I'm ready for getting on team previews and getting to all in. The 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,840 draft is coming up. The draft is heating up, Victor, and so 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,359 is the Patreon. Why don't you tell people why those two things are like 17 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,120 chocolate and peanut butter in terms of going together. Now I'm hungry thanks to 18 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,239 a lot. Yeah, now are it's good stuffed over there in the Patreon. 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,599 I know some people have been asking me, like where can I find 20 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:37,280 rankings? Where can I look up certain information about which guys are good for 21 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:40,319 hits, blocks, things like that? That we have all that you just 22 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,840 that we just needed you. We just asked you contribute a little bit because 23 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,920 it is a lot of work to put it together. So it is behind 24 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,319 the paywall at Patreon. But we got ranks. We got organizational ranks, 25 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:55,040 team ranks, like each team we have ranked who the top prospects are, 26 00:01:55,079 --> 00:01:59,920 with more information about them in terms of when their arrival is, like upside 27 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,719 for points, hits, shots, blocks, all that kind of stuff, 28 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:07,640 including twenty twenty three ranks. I know those are Yeah, those might shift 29 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,479 a little bit, but we got those all in there and goalies. So 30 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,719 I've been been refining these as we go through the team previews and all through 31 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:20,080 the offseason. They'll be more and more and so you can check all that 32 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:25,120 out. That's the prospect ranks we of course have are we have extra bonus 33 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:30,520 content patron casts. We have top ten lists for each team. 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Victor Nuno twelve VI C t O R and 44 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,360 U n O one two is how to find mister Victor. It's Sun. 45 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:17,319 It's time to go talk Canucks with with our guy Patrick, Patrick Johnston. 46 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:30,039 So right after this we're gonna talk Vancouver Canucks. We'd like to welcome a 47 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:34,759 man who is willing to talk some Vancouver Canucks with us. It's Patrick Johnson. 48 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,439 It's not that bad from the Province dot com ready to talk Knucks. 49 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:40,960 How you doing, Patrick? I think that's well put, willing, ready 50 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,560 and willing, because if you spend any time how trying. This team has 51 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:49,919 been at times obviously lots of exciting stuff. But when you've only been in 52 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,759 the playoffs a couple of times in the decade, it's you got accept reality, 53 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,240 which is this team hasn't been good enough. Too much of the has 54 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,199 not been good enough often enough that we're sitting here looking at another playoff last 55 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,280 season and watching all these teams with all kinds of narratives that are Canucks related. 56 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,240 They didn't draft Matthew Kuchuck but they could have, and things like that, 57 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:14,360 Yeah, we're doing okay, all right. I have said before, 58 00:04:14,439 --> 00:04:18,680 I've thought many times that if the NHL kept stats of a team's ratio of 59 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,519 drama and fan based consternation divided by standings points, the Knucks would be at 60 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:28,680 the top. There is so much stress going on in Vancouver, and I 61 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,399 don't want to just because they're not a laughing stock, but there is always 62 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:35,079 a lot of anks coming from the Pacific Northwest. And that said, there 63 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,920 were some good things and we want to talk about them as well as the 64 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,199 challenges from this season. The Canucks started slow again, the coach was fired 65 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,360 again, the team went on a late run again, and they ended with 66 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:50,720 a fourteen five and two record from March fourth, tied for second in shutout 67 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:56,639 six That was a surprise to me, but the league's worst penalty kill seventy 68 00:04:56,639 --> 00:05:00,399 one point six percent. On the other hand, the most shorthanded point four 69 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,360 or points that shorthanded points for it's a weird stat. How about the most 70 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:09,879 shorthanded goals that's fifteen or a second second shorthand points fifteen. League's fourth best 71 00:05:09,879 --> 00:05:14,120 shooting percentage, but the second we're saved percentage, So no boring goalie duels 72 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:17,319 and Rogers arena. Everybody could shoot. Twelve players on this team have contracts 73 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,399 the four plus million, which seems aggressive on the middle class anyway. I 74 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:25,800 guess Patrick would have builds too. Was this season just a deja vu of 75 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,759 the year before, or to Canucks watchers see some improvement coming around the corner? 76 00:05:30,319 --> 00:05:32,720 Well that's two. I would say there's almost two questions. There wasn't 77 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:39,480 deja vu? No, not really, not quite the same because last year 78 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:44,160 that they had this great Bruce Brudeau comes in and they just reel off. 79 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,639 I think they're undefeated news first eight games eight games and had a great push 80 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,079 to the playoffs and almost made it. And to the point where it was 81 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:55,160 it was getting a bit silly, like they wouldn't quite their hopes and you 82 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,720 thought, was I think ten years ago their hopes were over. But then 83 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:00,000 they've kept winning and then all the teams around them not winning. There was 84 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,319 just I think we went into the last week where it was like they had 85 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,439 to pull off this like inside straight and then everyone else had to like they 86 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,879 had the bomb and whatever, and it almost happened. It was ridiculous. 87 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:15,240 There was that sort of energy. Okay, they have changed the coach, 88 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,959 there are a lot of it was they were getting outstanding coltending. When they 89 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,959 finally changed the coach here in late January, it was over. Like everyone 90 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,959 knew they like they knew it wasn't happening. And the GM Patrick Alvian said, 91 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,639 no, like realistic. I asked him at the time. We're one 92 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:36,480 week into Rick Talkeet's tenure and they're shutting down Elia m Kayev and I'm just 93 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,560 like, you know what, why now? And he goes, we're twenty 94 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,600 nine from the league or whatever. They were twenty seventh, and they were 95 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,040 near the bottom in all kinds of categories. And he wasn't just saying points. 96 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,279 He said, look at all the trends. The idea that we're somehow 97 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:55,680 going to snap our fingers and start playing well enough to make the playoffs is 98 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,639 ludicrous. There wasn't that. There was obviously the late season run, which 99 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,800 kind of drove everyone crazy, because they were at one point since or a 100 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,959 fifth, sixth from the bottom with pretty good lottery odds. And it's not 101 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,720 just about winning the lottery. It's about just the fact that if you dropped 102 00:07:08,759 --> 00:07:11,000 in the top five or six or seven, you know, the kind of 103 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,040 player getting is very different than the kind of player you're getting from eleven or 104 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,800 even There's been some noise lately that maybe they'll have to do a good deal 105 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:19,759 with Chicago for the nineteenth packtraight back to nineteen. Obviously, there's a big 106 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:26,160 difference between picking six and nineteen, and you look at this team and what 107 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,519 they do need. Obviously they've got a very good high end, but they 108 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,399 need a lot of other gaps to fill, and the idea of getting another 109 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,319 exciting young defenseman or you might get like you might get at eleven or even 110 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,920 at five, or a young, exciting forward. Obviously, there's a deep 111 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,519 draft here that kind of drove people crazy. But in a way, the 112 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,120 deja vu element here, there is a bit of that, whereas that they're 113 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,879 saying next year is going to be the year we make the playoffs because they 114 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,480 really believe that. I don't know, to be honest in hint, I 115 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,439 don't know how much they believe that. They said, listen, look how 116 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,000 well the team played. Look at well the goalie played. And the goalie 117 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,079 play is a huge part of this season story because the first half of the 118 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,160 year that cheer Demco was terrible and for I think we've got into it. 119 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:09,879 I think he got away from himself mentally. He was he had a pretty 120 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:15,319 i think in hindsight, pretty significant surgery coming out a last season on his 121 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:18,639 leg. He just didn't look himself in the first half of the year, 122 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,519 and then he got hurt. He pulled his grond basically and was out for 123 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,959 two months. And he came back and he was like he was like a 124 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,560 new man, like he was refreshed, like he just there was a new 125 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:31,040 attitude. I wrote a story about them about him late in the year. 126 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,840 I do think I talked to him a little bit about it. I do 127 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:35,039 think he found out that he and his wife found out they were gonna have 128 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,200 a kid. That often does change your mentality, like you get a kind 129 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,600 of your eyes open up to everything else. And he came back with a 130 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,600 new purpose, like he was the goalie that we've seen more than anything since 131 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:52,919 he broke into the league four years ago. And you know, that's that's 132 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:54,840 the thing they going next year. Last year it was like, look, 133 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,320 how while we played down the stretch and we got a coach that got the 134 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,919 players energized. But I think a lot a lot of cases were like how 135 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,519 well were they actually playing? They could score and they had a good goalie, 136 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:05,200 but there were a lot of defensive issues. But then the problem was 137 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,879 this year, coming into the training camp, they were a mess. Their 138 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:13,440 defensive play was terrible, and they just they could break the puck out. 139 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,639 And then they changed coaches and they changed in personnel, and Ali were Eckman 140 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,200 Larson got hurt, and more than more than anything, they had to play 141 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,360 a couple of other guys. There were a couple of other injuries and just 142 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:28,039 it was a addition, almost by subtraction. They brought in a bunch of 143 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,039 Bell guys, vaguely familiar games like Christian will land in right. But that 144 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,080 shouldn't be the magic cure. And yet they all of a sudden, we're 145 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,080 breaking the puck out better. And some of that was down to coaching and 146 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,840 some of the system stuff that Rick Talking and his assistant coach Adam Foot were 147 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,559 really driving home. We saw marginal improvements down the stretch, and so now 148 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,919 they're going into next year going, well, hey, next year, we're 149 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:54,639 gonna make the playoffs because of all these things we saw late in the season. 150 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:56,200 So it's a little bit of a fool me once, shame on me, 151 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,840 foomy twice. We're now maybe in the floomy shame on you kind of 152 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,720 thing, or shame on you now we're in the middle of the shame on 153 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,440 me situation potentially. I do look at this team, and I'm sure we're 154 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,600 going to talk about this because we're talking about how many points these guys are 155 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:15,039 gonna get. I do think this team isn't I don't think you're unreasonable for 156 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,120 them to think they should be a playoff team. Look at how good their 157 00:10:16,159 --> 00:10:20,000 top end talent is, but they do have to figure some stuff around the 158 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:24,200 edges to truly compete and make it and make it in the Pacific Division next 159 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,080 season. Yeah, that's an awesome overview. Let's talk a little bit about 160 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,679 some of the individual guys, because yeah, there's definitely some fun ones talk 161 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:37,600 about here. We're gonna start with Elias Patterson EP forty and he had an 162 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:41,080 amazing season, finally hit that century mark. I think a lot of us 163 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,480 thought he could get there, but even on this sort of down team. 164 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,039 And we're gonna quote some ranks because Jess and I do preseason ranks. I 165 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,919 had him around the forty seventh. He had around fifty six, so we 166 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:56,240 were around fifty and he ended up the twelfth best forward in Fantasy. We 167 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:58,840 had him as a tier two guy going in last year. This year, 168 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:01,480 we've changed our mind a little, had moved him up to a tier one 169 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,879 And besides the offense, he was actually really good defensively, which is not 170 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,000 hasn't always been the case for him, at least in terms of his expectacles 171 00:11:09,039 --> 00:11:15,039 against P sixty and I would say making this jump from seventy sixty seventy points 172 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:18,720 the last couple of seasons two hundred and five, A lot of his metrics 173 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:22,559 really are not out of line. Is shooting percentage was actually a bit below 174 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,679 his care average. PDO was slightly high, but he tends to rock a 175 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,200 pretty high one. His IP was slightly high, and I think one of 176 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,600 the big things at the time when ice went up about two minutes, so 177 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:35,799 that was something that could sustain. Just looking trying to poke holes here on 178 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:39,399 what might not be able to continue, because I think we all want this 179 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:45,279 is the big question. Is Elias Petterson gonna be in the hundred point club 180 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:50,320 moving forward? Yeah? I think he is the player that we saw coming 181 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,639 into training. He hadn't had a proper training camp last season, he had 182 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,120 his contract situation. Him and Quinn used were both holding out, but he 183 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:01,519 came in like fresh prepped. Like you can just see he was bigger and 184 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,120 strong. He's twenty twenty three now, yeah, twenty three, he's you 185 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:09,960 know, he's growing, getting that man strength and and just physically you could 186 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:13,480 just see he was really looking strong and just in a good way. There 187 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,159 There are a lot of stories in this town going way back, but of 188 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:20,039 guys who came in who had bulked up too much. And I don't think 189 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,639 anybody looked at him and said they just you looked at him, You're like, 190 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,399 okay, he's looking ready. And right from the start he was dominant. 191 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,679 He was a guy that we always knew the talent, but it was 192 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:35,799 the ability to dominate opponents and and and because of that, it was not 193 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:39,720 a shock to see him scoring. And it's interesting you mentioned about the shooting 194 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,480 percentage. One of the reasons that was down probably was he couldn't buy a 195 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,639 goal on the power play for the longest time. It took him forever, 196 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,039 took him to January to get his first power play goal. In the season, 197 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,320 he was putting up points and their powerplay was mostly humming along. That 198 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,679 was the other thing is that a lot of the other their power play was 199 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,159 scoring at one point that it's a power play that has potential. It has 200 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,279 been top five in the league and to the point where he is a difference 201 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:07,039 maker in the team's overall results. It slipped a little bit this year, 202 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,919 I would say, but it was still a very good five on four unit 203 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,320 and he picked up a bunch of points. But he was a dominant five 204 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:18,200 on five player right He was outstanding, and it's important to mention, Yeah, 205 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,240 he was very good in his own end and a player who just he 206 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,519 just is such a sort of a personal drive to just beat the other guy 207 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,399 that it really really stands out how much does stuff matters to him? And 208 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,080 yeah, so as a result, like I think it is repeatable. I 209 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,600 think this is he's he is right end, it's p prime scoring window, 210 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,120 right. I think there's every reason to think he can do it again. 211 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,679 And he found a partnership a lot, especially with Andrew Kuzmenko, who wasn't 212 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,480 always his winger but was his winner for a lot of the season. He 213 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:52,879 found a partnership in Kuzmenko that really I think took his game to the next 214 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,679 level. But he kept scoring even without the Russian. Early in the year 215 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,039 they were playing a lot with He was playing a lot with Illiam mckayev as 216 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,120 well, And I think there's a feeling that what those two players brought to 217 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:07,919 the table was really good complimentary stuff like McKay have speed, at least in 218 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,519 theory. He obviously came played most a year with an ACL injury, but 219 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:16,320 McKay of speed in theory was supposed to really open up space for him. 220 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,000 He was going to be further down the ice and stretching defenses and giving Petterson 221 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,480 more space to play into. And so it'll be interesting to see how they 222 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:26,320 worked that next year. But yeah, he's a guy that's everything that happened. 223 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Like he's a bottle popper, right. Like his shot, the first 224 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:33,200 goal he scored in his career was this incredible shot where he sniped the top 225 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:39,000 corner and he really announced himself over Mikes and the shoulder and really announced himself 226 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,120 as I'm the guy and I'm going to be a guy. And yeah, 227 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,080 it's an exciting he's a very much an exciting part of his career. And 228 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,320 the other thing two, of course, he's going into contract season, right, 229 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,399 so there's a motivation there to really drive himself and really put his foot 230 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,960 down again to say, listen, no, I am this player, I 231 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,120 am the guy, I am a hundred I'm one hundred point player, I 232 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,120 am one of the one of the league's right play Another guy who certainly had 233 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,720 a great season, especially from fantasy perspective. JT. Miller, Victor and 234 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,360 I both said number fifteen forward coming to the year he was number seventeen pretty 235 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,559 much nailed it right on first tier for both of his last year first tier 236 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:20,519 this year. He recently turned thirty years old and his statuet is just stacked. 237 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:22,200 That's why we love him. Over a point per game in three of 238 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:26,440 his four years in Vancouver, every year except the pandemic year. He tied 239 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,320 a career high thirty two goals last year. Fantasy players love three shots a 240 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,159 game and two and a half hits per game. It's a gold not to 241 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,480 mention his propensity to play different forward positions and therefore give us multiple position eligibility 242 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:43,559 number seven forward in our bash, which is blocks, plush shots plus hits 243 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:48,799 and a lot to do with that shorthand and stat I gave early on in 244 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,159 this episode. Five of those shorthanded goals belonged to JT. Miller, and 245 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,799 that led the NHL had a rotating cast of blind made throughout the year. 246 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:02,000 It looks like Connor Garland brock Bess were his top two. But it's good 247 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,240 that he has all that going because the team has given him their biggest financial 248 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,639 commitment, seven year extension that eight million per kicks in this offseason. So 249 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,879 is GT. Miller just the continued slam dunk to keep up this level of 250 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,960 production. He's always been a second half guy. And I actually talked to 251 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:21,200 him at one point about this. I said, why is it that you 252 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,440 always seem to get better as the season comes along, And in this season, 253 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,279 for example, he was terrible in the first half. And he was 254 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,559 the first person to admit it. He just I think he's a bit of 255 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,200 an emotional cannonball, I guess is the best way to put it. Bowling 256 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,120 ball. I don't even know. He goes everywhere at times, and I 257 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:41,799 think the biggest challenge for him remains channeling his energy. And he came into 258 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,240 the season a little bit. I don't think he would put it this way, 259 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:49,080 but I think our impression was he had popped his ego got popped up 260 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,320 a little bit. He had signed that deal, he was feeling good. 261 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:56,039 He's the top dog, and I think he let that runaway from himself a 262 00:16:56,039 --> 00:16:59,399 little bit. And he talked about He even talked abouim. He got a 263 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:03,880 hockety in Canada, like Kevin Bixa and Kelly, Rudy especially the extra will 264 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,039 tell you the truth. Generally, Rudy generally tries to find the sort of 265 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,559 upbeat kind bangle on everything. But there was a sequence late in the season, 266 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,119 or sorry, late in the late in twenty twenty two, so right 267 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,400 coming into New Year's there was this. There was a moment that I think 268 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,440 a lot of people saw where he was yelling at Collodelia to get off late 269 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,319 in the game against Winnipeg, where the guilty party was Bruce Boudro hadn't called 270 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,720 for Delia to leave the ice for the extra tacker. Miller lost his cool 271 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:32,960 on the ice, slammed at stick on the back of the net so to 272 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:36,960 get off, but didn't really wasn't really aware it stood out to people. 273 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,759 Delia said in the end he wasn't mad at Miller. Everyone knows that Miller's 274 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:41,599 a passionate guy, and then he just trying to say that. But it 275 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,200 was a look that caught a lot of people off guard. It's not something 276 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,119 you often see, and it perhaps got built into something bigger than it actually 277 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:51,759 was. But then the next game in Calgary, I think on New Year's 278 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:56,960 Eve, Miller looked terrible on a back check on one goal and then was 279 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:00,839 the victim of an unfortunate change on an other goal, and it just looked 280 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,839 there was a it looked back bad for a guy that's supposed to one of 281 00:18:04,839 --> 00:18:08,240 the team's leaders. There was just there was some real sort of bad optics. 282 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,079 Certainly there have been. It's not the first time that Miller had been 283 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,200 caught out not backchecking. There was an instance last season where we had to 284 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,440 ask Boodro, actually, yes, he was less not good enough in overtime. 285 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,480 There was a case where that they lost a game and Miller was caught 286 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:30,200 Lolligagan on the back check and on TV BX and Rudy ripped Miller for what 287 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,559 that basically what he had done in terms of his lack of effort on a 288 00:18:34,599 --> 00:18:37,720 back check and just what you expect from the team's top player. And he 289 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:41,680 actually referenced it to me a couple months later when I started asking, hey, 290 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,400 you've really caught fire again in the second half, and he called to 291 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,240 the Shenanigans in Calgary. And I think the criticism in that respect like he's 292 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:52,160 not a guy that he really is one of these classic guys I don't listen 293 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,160 to the media, and I think he's aware of it, but I think 294 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,039 he mostly just kind of laughs at what he hears from us, which is 295 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:02,519 fair enough. But when you hear from a former player, especially someone is 296 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:07,400 esteemed as BX, a guy that obviously is a legend in Vancouver and carries 297 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,799 a lot of weight I think around the league, just because he is one 298 00:19:10,839 --> 00:19:14,119 of the smartest hockey players you'll ever run into. He's got a very strong, 299 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,480 intelligent personality, like when he speaks, people listen, and so to 300 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:22,599 be criticized publicly by him, I think really hit home. And so you 301 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,759 got this Millard reset himself if you will, and got himself moving in a 302 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:30,200 direction and moving forward. And I think some of it, too, is 303 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,640 there was a lot of kind of noise around because things were so chaotic with 304 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:41,000 the Bruce Brugro situation that essentially got called out. The coach got called out 305 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,200 by president Jim Rutherford in like early November and wasn't fired for two months. 306 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:52,440 That it just the environment became The players admitted late they didn't say toxic, 307 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,319 but we knew it was toxic. It was difficult on them. They were 308 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,839 totally unsure what was going on. It's hard for them. You show up 309 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:00,400 to work, you want to feel like you know what's going on, and 310 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,519 when there was all kinds of noise and it's not just media generated, like 311 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:08,119 it's team generated by itself. You know, that starts to wear on you, 312 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,640 and that was difficult. He talked a lot about that. And then 313 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:17,200 there was the bow Horvat situation where once they'd signed Miller before the season, 314 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,440 essentially became clear that was almost certainly they were gonna have to trade bow Horbat. 315 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,720 There was almost no way they were going to be able to resign him. 316 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:26,759 And so that started to become as we got closer and closed the deadline, 317 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,319 you get to the new year, you get to January, it started 318 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:33,799 to become a bit of a circus. And even then like even that's just 319 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:36,440 it's just chattered. People are just going to talk about it. And it 320 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,680 wasn't even so much every day. Bowback, I think, handled it pretty 321 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,720 professionally, perfectly, honest. He came out in December and said, guys 322 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,799 that him, this is all I'm gonna say and are going to say. 323 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,079 We actually talked to him about why he said it, and he was really 324 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,640 good about it. But it wasn't like we were coming in every day asking 325 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,319 him what do you think? What do you think? What do you think? 326 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,440 But nonetheless, there was the constant sort of when is bow Horback going 327 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,559 to get traded? When is Bruce Boudreau going to get fired? And that 328 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,759 was another thing that Miller admitted I think got in their heads, and he 329 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:07,160 said once they got past all that, I think they mentally reset themselves. 330 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,160 They got cleared up, and again, like I said, he had this 331 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:14,519 dominant second half. You look at it's wild, you bring it back up, 332 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:17,759 and you look at how good, how good his second half was, 333 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,319 and that was a guy that was just figuring it out. He mentioned that 334 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,039 the penalty kill, like Miller has been not an amazing two way player. 335 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:27,079 He's got this reputation as a defensive kind of guy, like a Ryan Kesler 336 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:30,839 two point oh kind of guy. He's not that player, let's be clear, 337 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:36,680 but he has a nose for offense. And I would say that there 338 00:21:36,839 --> 00:21:41,759 was some evidence their penalty kill was all time bad before talk it showed up, 339 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,519 and they've managed to reset it. They brought it up and still was 340 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,039 terrible, but it wasn't all time bad. And part of what they were 341 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:52,000 able to do is they reset a lot of what they were doing and a 342 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,359 lot of the time they would have Miller and Patterson killing a penalty together and 343 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,720 they were these dynamic threats. They became quite a threat on the PK and 344 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:02,960 in many ways reminding I would think people here a little bit going back to 345 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,400 the nineties because Knocks used to run Pavo Burrey out in the power Play because 346 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,079 the pat Quinn thought that was a chance to attack the underside of the underside 347 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:14,440 of the belly a little bit, right, Like, there's some vulnerabilities there 348 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,119 when you're on the power play, and and you can put some scoring talent 349 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,960 who knew how to play the game, and LEAs Patterson knows how to play 350 00:22:21,079 --> 00:22:25,079 like. He is an amazing anticipatory player, and so putting him and Miller 351 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,720 together really became an interesting dynamic in the PK because they were Petterson so good 352 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,680 at intercepted passes and Miller reads off Petterson really well. They may not be 353 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:37,680 the tightest of friends or closest they as far as as far as I know, 354 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:41,359 probably spend no time at all together off ice, which is which has 355 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,519 happened, But they certainly found a bit of a happy medium. I think 356 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,880 eventually, you know, there had been some issues that get their backstory that 357 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,799 you look at how he played. The question now is at the age of 358 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,160 thirty. How much longer can he sustain this? And I think certainly you 359 00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:59,599 go into next year, there's no suggestion that he's going to fall off, 360 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,799 there are You know, once you get a three in front of your at 361 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,680 the beginning of your age, things can turn. Things can turn quite quickly. 362 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,039 But I think next year, certainly, going in next year, he's 363 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:14,200 a good bat. He's going to be a center. You're right, he's 364 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,000 got he's had always had the positional flexibility. But I think more than anything 365 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,759 now unless there is some unless somehow the Cannucks pull off a trade, and 366 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:25,799 I don't think that's impossible. He's going to be their second center going into 367 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,440 next year, and he'll play a lot in the powerplay. I would say 368 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,279 that's the one thing, interestingly enough, on why he didn't hit ninety nine 369 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,680 points two seasons ago. You know why he was a little bit behind. 370 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,400 That was again that power play, as they scored a lot in power play, 371 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,720 But like I said, Petterson didn't score till the end of January, 372 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,200 and Miller picked up a lot of points on the power play last year. 373 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,920 So that's the one sort of question mark. He's a pretty consistent five five 374 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,599 score, but I'd say the one question mark is forever that Canucks powerplay, 375 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,759 which has tons of potential to score, and certainly when it was on last 376 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,440 season, was scoring a lot and has a bunch of threats on that first 377 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:03,279 unit. First unit plays three quarters of a power player every night. There's 378 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:06,559 a lot of opportunity to score. He's a guy that's going to keep keep 379 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:10,119 seeing those minutes and for the next couple of seasons anyway, I think he's 380 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,400 going to continue to be one of those top end scorers, definitely, and 381 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,799 another one of the top end scorers. We got to move on to Andre 382 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:22,359 Kuzmenko, and we didn't really know what to expect with Kuzmenko. He'd been 383 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:26,160 a pretty decent player in Russia, but it wasn't really until his final season 384 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,359 putting up fifty three points into forty five games in the SHL for Scott Saint 385 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,880 Petersburg that he really popped off the page. Before that, he was a 386 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:40,519 thirty ish point player in their season, and in the preseason, I was 387 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,119 the one who thought I'd watched some of his KHL tape and I was really 388 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,920 trying to figure out what I thought of him, and I said, I 389 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,519 think he can put sixty to seventy points, which was pretty high. I 390 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,680 think most people were a lot more conservative on him. I did not think 391 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,200 he'd go over my expectations seventy four point base. He did me there, 392 00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:03,559 but incredible first season there for the now twenty seven year old I Jesse and 393 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:06,680 I didn't rank him because we weren't really sure. He ended up one hundred 394 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,960 and eighth, so we usually in the rank the top one hundred and so 395 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:12,039 that was pretty reasonable. Actually, going in the next year, I have 396 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,000 him as his Tier two Jesse Tier three, and part of that is because 397 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,799 he really isn't a guy who's going to hit, block, or shoot all 398 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:22,359 that much. He's getting under two shots a game. He only had thirteen 399 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,480 hits in eighteen blocks and eighty one game, so those aren't really things that 400 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,759 he's gonna do. But it's not like he's a defensive liability either. His 401 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,400 suspected goals against are above the mean, and so's his corsi against. But 402 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,400 really it's his goals that are his bread and butter. He's really far and 403 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:45,079 above the NHL average there. But I also seriously doubt he's a career twenty 404 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,960 seven percent shooter. So that might come down a little bit. His PDO 405 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:55,279 is also ten twenty seven, which we see really elite players rock high pdos 406 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,559 like that. We just don't have enough data to say if as Kuzmenko can 407 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,519 do that and based on his shooting percent and I think he won't. But 408 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:04,920 Patrick, what do you think about Kuzmenko? Can he stay in that seventy 409 00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:08,079 to eighty point range going into twenty twenty three, twenty four? I know 410 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,880 that you said he plays really well with Patterson and the other thing to consider, 411 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:17,799 as you mentioned it's true with Petterson, it's also true with Kuzmenko, 412 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,759 and that is that he is playing for He's playing for his new contracts, 413 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,640 so that's going to play in there. So what do you think of Kuzmenko? 414 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:29,960 Kuzmenko, Yeah, here's an interesting context. In his last month of 415 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,279 the season, he had the second lowest ice time game of his season as 416 00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:41,039 well as his highest ice time game of his season. So right there, 417 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,119 it's a season in a nutshell. You've already mentioned the twenty seven percent shooting 418 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,720 percentage. It was just it was off the charts. How good he wasn't 419 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,559 finishing? Now, if you watch the way he scored goals. It's probably 420 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,680 not surprising that he had a high shooting percentage. He scored goals exactly where 421 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,640 you want them. He was around the net. He was incredible good hands, 422 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,160 incredibly quick, gets the pluck up incredibly quick. If I'm not mistaken, 423 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,359 I didn't double check this, but he was second in tip goals this 424 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,599 season. The Canocks were like off the charts good at getting tip goals. 425 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,519 And I really came to believe that this was an intentional choice, a bit 426 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:21,359 of a strategic choice by them focusing in on basically especially on the power play. 427 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,440 But they had Bull Horbad, who had worked incredibly hard at essentially being 428 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:30,039 a net front guy, at being a guy on the bumper on the power 429 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:33,359 play, working with Adam Oates in the off season, and we talked a 430 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,400 lot about the skill of finding getting your stick free in the slot to deflect 431 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,920 point shots or shots from the side of the side of the slot, and 432 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,240 he was very good adept at that. Kuse Mako proved to be very adept 433 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:51,440 at that. And I think the analogy I used was one from there's the 434 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,279 idea of the set piece and soccer had gone away. This is going back 435 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:59,359 almost ten years now, but COO Madrid had actually gone for this idea of 436 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,920 nobody is practicing set pieces, so we're going to figure it out and we're 437 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,200 going to make this an essentially an area of advantage. And they did, 438 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:08,400 and we actually saw a little bit here locally in the MLS for banker white 439 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,720 gaps. They actually did it in a league that wasn't practicing defending set pieces. 440 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,759 They were trying to find a scene in the overall thinking. And so 441 00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:18,079 I think we saw that. I really do think we saw that with the 442 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,640 Canucks this year, that they saw something that a lot of teams don't do. 443 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,880 And I don't know if anybody's ever looked at it this way, but 444 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,079 they were really working hard on tipping point shots, finding new ways to get 445 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,359 the puck at the net in ways that were difficult for the goalie and the 446 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,880 defense to read and deal with. And now I'm finding and now I'm wondering 447 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:42,519 how much our team's going to work to adapt this approach and that or maybe 448 00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,920 it was just really good luck. Maybe they're just really lucky on this, 449 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,960 and so one way or another, I don't expect they're going to be a 450 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:53,920 successful tipping pucks in next season and Kuzminko was their best guy at that And 451 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,000 like I said, he still scores lots of goals from the areas he want 452 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,160 to score. That he is a goal scorer. He taught. He told 453 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,319 us late in the year that you go look at his stats from KHL and 454 00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:07,640 he was never a big shooter in the KHL. He shot more this year 455 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,119 than I think he had in his entire career, and he has basically admitted 456 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,319 that coaches have always told him to shoot more and he finally clued in. 457 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:21,279 And I think he's really connected with a coaching staff here that speaks in the 458 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,200 terms that he thinks talkt and Sergei Ganjar, who's here is a sort of 459 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:32,000 halftime assistant coach, essentially talked a lot about how inquisitive he is, what 460 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:34,960 a sort of student of the game, and he's constantly trying to understand what 461 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:38,799 they're partly because there's a language barrier and he's trying to learn what they're saying 462 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,000 to him, but also he want they're telling him things they see in his 463 00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:47,079 game that they think translate to the NHL. And coming into the air, 464 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,960 he said he was considering he was nervous about how hard it would be to 465 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,759 get to the net. He looked at how tight the NHL ice surfaces compared 466 00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:57,920 to the KHL, and but at the same time, he said, he 467 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,160 really liked you force a turn over on the boards and all of a sudden, 468 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,160 you turn around, you're looking at the net. It's not like the 469 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,200 KHL where you're forced to turn over on the boards and you have to skate 470 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,319 a mile to get to the slot. And so he really liked that. 471 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:15,000 Like everything went well for him, I think. So to expect that he's 472 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,160 going to score thirty nine goals again, I think is unreasonable. But he 473 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,720 clearly has proved himself to be a talent. And even if you take away 474 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,319 a few of those goals, you cut his shooting percentage down, he's still 475 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:27,079 a good chance to be a thirty goal scorer. Right. He's going to 476 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,000 play a lot. He's going to play on your top two lines, he's 477 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,400 going to be on your first power play unit. He is going to get 478 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,039 opportunity to score. And so from mass standpoint, I mean, they had 479 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,920 concerns with his two way play, and that's why we saw him playing at 480 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,920 times not as month he got benched a couple of times late in the season, 481 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,759 but it wasn't I don't think there's any suggestion that he has any kind 482 00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:51,480 of rift with him and the coaching staff. I think he in the end, 483 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,000 he wasn't happy. No one's ever happy to be scratched. But I 484 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,880 think the impression we have is he took he took that with as the right 485 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,559 message is being yes, no, they're right. I need to think about 486 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,440 these things. It was late in the season where they had no hope of 487 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,240 the playoffs. You couldn't understand why players might lose focus a little bit. 488 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:08,559 Obviously, that's the thing you have to learn. But again, if they're 489 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,319 in a playoff chase next year, he's a guy they're gonna they'll be in 490 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:15,319 a playoff chase because he's scoring, because he's playing well for them. If 491 00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,000 he's not scoring, he's not playing well for them. Next year, they're 492 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,160 not gonna be making the playoffs. He is the kind of complimentary player in 493 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,039 a tough division. When you look at the Canucks playing in the Pacific, 494 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,440 they're up against Edmonton, they're up against Vegas, they're up against la they're 495 00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:32,160 up against Seattle, they're up against Calgary. That there's some really top opponents, 496 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,039 especially on the edge of the playoffs, and the Canucks aren't or I 497 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,960 don't think there are a clear cut playoff team for next year. But they're 498 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,359 in that mix with Calgary, with Seattle, with teams like that, and 499 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,160 so if they're gonna overcome their opponents, that means they're scoring. And like 500 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,200 I said, if they're scoring, that means Andre Kuzmiko is scoring as well. 501 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,640 Let's we need to get through Brack Besser here, and I think it's 502 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,279 it's that there's a lot to say, but there's not a lot, and 503 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920 this is one of the most predictable guys, it seems like for our span 504 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,480 see guys. Anyway, He's a fine player. He's about the hundred best 505 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:07,359 player in Fantasy Victor and Ibol called that coming into the year. He's not 506 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,200 a superstar. Sixty one point pace this year, career sixty five point pace 507 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,880 prior to last year. Never does a lot of shots and hits aversham on 508 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,519 Ice seems to be dropping to its lowest level since his nine game rookie cameo 509 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,599 slid into the top five in power play tim on ice when bo Horvatt went 510 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,240 out the door but advanced mentricks don't really like his defensive impact or his contract. 511 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:34,000 Do you think brock Besser is straat sale and ahead or you think something 512 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,640 dramatic is going to change with him? We're not interested in you guys want 513 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,319 to know about points broadcasters brock Besters. I'm a huge brock Besser person. 514 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,319 Okay, Like as a person, I'm not saying unfortunately as a scorer, 515 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,839 like I really like watching Brock play. I think he's an underrated hockey player, 516 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,880 like as it just as doing things well. Obviously, his skating is 517 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,160 I think always highlighted, been highlighted as a bit of a drawback. He's 518 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,160 not a He is not a guy that pulls away from other people. And 519 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,079 I think, as he's now in his late twenties, that is something that 520 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,279 he is going to have to dial in on because you get the nail on 521 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:13,160 the head. He's done things well, but he's not playing as much and 522 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200 he's got a big contract, and he's not a player that at this point, 523 00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:21,559 even though he is quite clearly lace kind of on production as second line 524 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:25,480 winger, he is going to start moving into that realm of guys where Okay, 525 00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:30,759 what do you actually do that's different from anyone else. And certainly in 526 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,119 his first couple of seasons he had this fabulous risk shot. Everyone knew that 527 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,160 he had this. He could pull the trigger better than most. While he 528 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,720 had a career low and goals this year, some of that was because he 529 00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,400 suffered a risk injury in training camp and took a long time to recover from 530 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,480 that. Some of that was what he talked about mentally, what he was 531 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,960 going through. His father died last summer. He'd had a terribly hard, 532 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,319 really hard His father's decline had been really hard. He suffered, he had 533 00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:57,160 been suffering from Parkinson's for a long time. He'd battled cancer for a long 534 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,599 time. His father was dealing with dementia by the end. Didn't even go 535 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,079 His dad, who had been Rocks number one fan, didn't even go to 536 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,519 the last Canucks, last Canucks visit to Minnesota last last or two seasons ago, 537 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:13,440 a year ago. You know that it was really hard, and I 538 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:16,239 think I think people who pay attention to the can I certainly saw. We 539 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,880 saw this at the end of season media conference last year when he was asked 540 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,320 about his dad and he broke down and he was he ended up talking about 541 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,760 it, and he wanted to talk about it. Was hard, but he 542 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,320 felt he needed to share his story. And then this year he was the 543 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,800 head of the PHWA chapter here and we nominated him as our master to nominee 544 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,199 just for dedicate, because we knew what he'd been through. And I had 545 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,280 a really good chat with him, like he and I have, I think 546 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,880 a pretty good relationship, and we talked a lot about what he'd been through 547 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,400 this year and learning to live after the loss of a parent. And as 548 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,039 he said, all the other guys can call their dads after a game and 549 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,840 chat about how they did. He's I don't know that, and so he 550 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,199 had to learn a little bit. And then the first half of the season 551 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,320 was really difficult. It was hard. He didn't play very well. The 552 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,400 second half he improved, studied along and kept picking up points. But you 553 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:05,320 look at his record, but took he didn't score until its first. It 554 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,960 took him. He got hurt. Partly, it's because he got hurt, 555 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,199 but he didn't score until November. His first goal didn't come till November eighteenth. 556 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,639 He was sitting on coming into December, He's managed just fourteen points. 557 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,559 He was almost scratched at the beginning of December on what would have been Hot 558 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,079 Hockey Talks Cancer Night, which I think was an emotional event for him. 559 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:29,639 But he started finding his way. He started playing better. He was playing 560 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:31,840 a lot highlighted. He played a lot with JT. Miller. He used 561 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,679 to be the kind of trigger man on on Elia's Patterson's line, but that 562 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,840 Kuzmenko supplanted him as that. And then he finally found a groove with JT. 563 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,760 Miller, and he should. JT. Miller is a fantastic passer. 564 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,039 This is part of the thing. This is a thing to recognize. I 565 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,679 think going forward with Miller is that he's still going to put the puck on 566 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,440 teammates stick like he is going to pick up assists forever. That's a bit 567 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,440 of an old players skill. But that's where he's at, and so Besser. 568 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,159 But Besser also, for one time he started seemed like he didn't have 569 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:04,360 any puck luck, kept hitting the post. But and then, like you 570 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,400 said, once horbat Laft got a lot more first power play ice time, 571 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,159 and especially down the stretch as they tried to dial in with Kuzmenko. He 572 00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:16,000 kept on the first unit because Mano kind of bounced around a little bit, 573 00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:20,239 even though, because Mano seemed to be the better finisher. Whether so, 574 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,199 whether that was about a showcase or trying to say listen to trying to builds 575 00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,880 confidence up one way or another, that's where it was. But at the 576 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,599 end of the day, he finished. He scored five goals in March, 577 00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,880 two goals in April, but he'd had only two goals in February. He 578 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,400 had only three goals in January, so it was a bit of a It 579 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,760 was a really uneven season and as a result, he's in that window like 580 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,280 he's still getting the power play time, but I don't know if he's producing 581 00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:45,760 enough to justify a spot on the first unit. So he's a guy that's 582 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,280 a bit of a trade chip, I think. I mean, there is 583 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,880 this noise, like I said that maybe they'll make a deal with Chicago. 584 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,679 I think because they need to get out from a contract at least I think 585 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,159 their desire would be get out from under Tyler Myers' deal. I think that's 586 00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,840 realistically a they think they can move on from. But I think you look 587 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,079 at Chicago and what they're likely to get asked for. Look for if they're 588 00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,079 making a deal. He's one of the wingers, and so you got Rock 589 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,719 Bester and you got Connor Garland I think are the most likely. Kennedy, 590 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,920 so it'll be interesting to see it. Besser is even a Vancouver Cannuck next 591 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:16,920 year. He really he said he wants to be here. Mid season he 592 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,440 basically get asked for a trade, but by the end of the season he 593 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,199 was happy to want. He loves here. He's happy with his life here. 594 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,599 It is one of those lifestyles pretty good players like being here. But 595 00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:30,880 it's from the team's standpoint they have to I think they're having to be realistic 596 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,559 now. But what he brings to the table, and it's not clear to 597 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:36,639 me, it's not clear to me. Like I said, he scored a 598 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,400 second line rate. I think that the productions there, but the role. 599 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:44,159 He's a guy that feels like his role could change quickly, even if he's 600 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,519 getting paid what he's getting paid. Yeah, so we just have a cup 601 00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:50,960 more forwards. I'm going to challenge you, give me a sentence. Put 602 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,679 these three guys in order, because there's something they have common. Ilia McKay, 603 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,480 Anthony Pavillier, Connor Garland three more guys half point per game, kind 604 00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:04,280 of r four to five million dollar contracts a piece, So there's some commonality 605 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,239 there. What order would you put them in terms of what you're expecting for 606 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,079 production there? I think we can at the top because, like I said, 607 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:13,840 I expect that he'll be back with Petterson. They really liked how he 608 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:20,320 plays. I think realistically that's the other two are good questions because Bovillier, 609 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:22,639 I mean, I think we assume when they trade for him, he might 610 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,239 turn into a trade chip this season. I think there's still a good reason 611 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,000 to think of just a nature of his contract and sort of the kind of 612 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,119 player he is. But Garland is an option, like I just said as 613 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:38,719 well, So Garland Mobilier found a groove here. He'd struggled to score in 614 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,639 New York. They certainly liked the sort of quality that he brought to the 615 00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:45,960 table. He played a lot with Elia's Petterson at least to start with, 616 00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,400 found a bunch of some of those goals. There was some pot luck involved, 617 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,039 but certainly they liked like what he brought the table. Garlands Garland is 618 00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,960 an interesting one. Beavillia got more powerfulay time than Connor. Garland tip Connor 619 00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:00,760 Garland for whatever reason and has never been a big power play guy here, 620 00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:06,239 but he is a five on five producer and he just plays the game in 621 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,639 a way that he drives you into the fight kind of guy, like he's 622 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,840 a guy that likes to get involved. But I think the fact that Beauvillier 623 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,880 clearly is ahead of the ahead of him on the powerplay selection list, I 624 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,480 think you got to rank him ahead of Garland, and Garland's the last one. 625 00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:21,840 And like I said, Garland might get end up getting traded. For 626 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,039 both those guys might get traded, but if one gets traded, I think 627 00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:30,920 it's Garland first. All right, that's good info on the forwards. Let's 628 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,440 move over to the defenseman now, and of course we're going to start with 629 00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:39,280 Quinn Hughes. Hughes had a pretty awesome season. He had the highest point 630 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:45,159 pace to date at eighty Jesse and I because of the relatively low hits, 631 00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:49,760 blocks and shots, we tend to fade him a little bit, and I 632 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,159 had him at twenty seven Jesse twenty three. He was actually the seventeenth best 633 00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:59,440 defenseman, and that's partially because he had his career best season in shots, 634 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,119 hits, and blocks, so he really is getting up there close to a 635 00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:06,320 block per game. His hits are still under half a hit per game, 636 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:14,159 but I remember twenty nineteen twenty he had seven hits in sixty eight games, 637 00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:19,559 so he's a far cry from that. Yeah, but he's offensively dynamic and 638 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,719 awesome. His contribution of goals is way over the top, and his coursie 639 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:29,239 against for sixty was really good this season two. Not that he's like ever 640 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,719 been the most the best defensive defenseman, but he's really pretty good both ways. 641 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,760 And so you're leaving out there, leaving him out there all the time, 642 00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:43,159 really heavy time on ice, and he's got a pretty high salary. 643 00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:47,639 According to dam Lucisions model, he has a five point eight million dollars surplus 644 00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,079 on his seven point nine million dollars contracts, so worth every penny and then 645 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,159 some. I don't really think any of his metrics scream regression. So to 646 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,639 me, this leaves me wondering, is this his ceiling? Could he even 647 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,639 had? It's hard to be greedy after an eighty point paced season, but 648 00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,039 do you think that he could go above that? Or what should we expect 649 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,639 from he was moving forward here? I think that's a great way to frame 650 00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,000 it, is this his ceiling. The fact that we're even talking about that 651 00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,960 tells you what a spectacular points producer he is. At least, he's not 652 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:20,960 a guy, and he's not a big guy, so he's never gonna throw 653 00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,119 hits. It was funny in mid season they did mention here anyway that, 654 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,679 oh, look all the blocks. I said, let's get real here, 655 00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:30,840 and yeah, he's getting a block up. I think at that point he's 656 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,159 got a block per game. But contextually he was like way down the list. 657 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,960 It wasn't like it was more than essentially the essential zero that you just 658 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,559 highlighted. But he's not a guy. That's not his game. His game 659 00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:45,360 is having the puck on a stick and more and more this season that he 660 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:51,119 was amazing at that to the point where like he really needs to be. 661 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,000 He's not. It's hard to win the Norris Trophy. This is a golden 662 00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:57,599 asure defenseman. But he should be in that conversation. That's how well his 663 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,159 season wins, especially on a team that struggled defensively, like he was a 664 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,880 standout player in relative terms, like this was a team that struggled to defend. 665 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,000 They never struggled to defend when he was on the ice because he's so 666 00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:13,559 smart he handles the puck ball. Now, obviously, when we're talking about 667 00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:17,000 fantasy hockey, that doesn't matter. What matters is are you putting up points? 668 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,440 And he's going to put up points? Will there was some It was 669 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:27,000 such a remarkable season that as we went into the finish, we found ourselves 670 00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,679 looking at, Okay, can he get to X y Z? Is there? 671 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,440 What? How much further can he take this? How many assists can 672 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,199 you end up? Can he get to whatever? Goals? It's the amazing 673 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,760 thing in all this is it took him half the season actually get his first 674 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,679 goal, and some of that was pucklock. Right, So next year, 675 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,400 I mean, there you go. If he's able to score at the rate 676 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,400 in the second half that he scored this season, if he's able to do 677 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,199 that over the whole season, like that's five six more goals, right, 678 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,559 there's no reason to think he won't keep putting up the assists. And like 679 00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:57,280 I said, the power play was a little bit uneven. If it's more 680 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,880 consistent, he's the guy running the show. Yeah, could this. I 681 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,960 don't think he's gonna put up a hundred points. I don't think, you 682 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,199 know, Eric Carlson's was so stellar this year doing that, But I do 683 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,079 think he's a guy that he's a guy that, yeah, absolutely eighty points 684 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:13,760 again is not unreasonable and maybe even doing better than that once or twice. 685 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,599 Yeah, he's a guy to make a bet to do that, he's a 686 00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:21,239 safe bet to repeat, and he's not an unreasonable bet to do better. 687 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,440 What kind of two other defensemen we want to cover and not Tyler Meyers? 688 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,119 So I don't want to get into Tyler Myers. There's something going on, 689 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,599 but we got our powerplay quarterback QUINNI used. But the other two guys who 690 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,280 are usually more on the radar for the fantasy players, Oliver Ekman, Larson 691 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,320 and Philip Heronick the new arrival and Victor and I had high helps for Eckman. 692 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,719 Oel's fantasy game usually comes out a little bit ahead of his maybe his 693 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,840 real game. It depends. Your computations may vary, but they are paying 694 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,360 him a lot of money for a long time, and he scored some points, 695 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,840 he did some things, but he lost. He left for the season 696 00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,559 in mid February with a bad ankle, his time on ice little bit down. 697 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,840 Then you get over to Philip Herronick. They traded for him. They 698 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,400 paid up for Philip Herronick from the Detroit Red Wings of first rounder, a 699 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,199 second rounder, Fornic and a fourth rounder, so they invested some future assets 700 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,280 in this guy. But he had an incredible year. His defensive rating completely 701 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,480 flipped. He'd been a negative in advanced metrics for years, flipped to a 702 00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:27,840 huge positive this last year. Worry that this was this the career year because 703 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,199 he's a twenty five year old. Now he's gonna lock down five percent of 704 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,159 the cap this year, likely restricted free agency. He's going to get paid. 705 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:39,119 So are these guys fantasy half point per game type guys? Maybe? 706 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,800 I don't know what you think there? And should we expect solid world's good 707 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,880 production for these guys in the coming years. They are a great pairing to 708 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,320 discuss l His season was awful even before he got hurt. He broke his 709 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,320 foot last year the World Championships and basically admitted to us that he never properly 710 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,239 recovered from that, and his skating was terrible. He was constantly getting beat 711 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,079 on the outside. There were times when he almost looked like he was dealing 712 00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:12,320 with a knee problem. Like he had meniscus surgery four years ago when he 713 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,519 was still at Arizona. He never wanted to talk about it, but I 714 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:16,719 would look at him going to be like, I think you're just straight. 715 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,480 I think it's just you strained something. They've got a bruise in there. 716 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,360 I don't know, But in the end he said his foot was a real 717 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,599 issue. So there's a belief here going into next year that you know he'll 718 00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:30,639 be He's going to be fully healthy again. He's not going to be the 719 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,960 player he was ten years ago, Like there's just no getting around that he's 720 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,960 in his thirties. But the Canucks think that the smarts are there, the 721 00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,760 skills are still there, that he can be a even if he's not gonna 722 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,440 be as useful as his cap hit demands, he can still be a lot 723 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,599 more useful than he was last year and his first season he was a good 724 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,320 Yeah, nailed it, like he was a half point per game producer, 725 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,840 Like he put a decent run of points up. And if you're looking at 726 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,719 a player who's gonna play, probably get a lot of minutes if you don't 727 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,599 have to take like salary cap hit into consideration in your league, like if 728 00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,280 you're not in a kind of some kind of cap league that looks at actual 729 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,519 real life play cap hits, he'll be fine. Like he'll get your points. 730 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,440 He's not going to play a ton on the power play anymore. And 731 00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,480 that's the same story for Ronicronix. So much of his production in Detroit was 732 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,559 about the power play. He is now the second fiddle behind Twin Hughes. 733 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,599 He's gonna run the second unit. But like I said, the second unit 734 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,840 gets thirty minutes. If it gets a quarter of the powerplay ice time, 735 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,639 he's not going to produce a lot. But I do think the Canucks what 736 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,000 they are hoping to do is they're hoping to run things out as essentially, 737 00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,800 have Hughes run one pair, Heronick run the other pair, and those guys 738 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,880 are gonna split the game that you're gonna have a not a lot of ice 739 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,840 time from your bottom pair. So Ronic is going to be on the ice 740 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,719 a lot with top players, right, So there's gonna be a chance to 741 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,880 produce. You just have to be realistic. He is not the number one 742 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,920 guy anymore. He's gonna play a lot, but he's not the number one 743 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,559 guy. He's not the guy that they're looking to lead the charge the way 744 00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:59,000 they're looking to from Hughes. We'll see how it plays out. Obviously, 745 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:00,599 had a difficult end of the season. He got hurt right before the trade, 746 00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,920 played a couple of games, and the Canucks shut him down because they're 747 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,840 just like I mean, they claimed, well, we want him to get 748 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,000 it right. But you wondered how worried they were about the injury. I 749 00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,320 don't think there's any reason to think you heard his shoulder, but I don't 750 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,840 think there's any reason to think he's not gonna be ready to go next season. 751 00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,800 All right, let's go good info on the defenseman. Now, let's 752 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,079 switch over to goalies. The Canucks had the twenty third expected goals against per 753 00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:30,079 sixty two point seven seven, but conceded the twenty fifth most actual goals at 754 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:35,639 three point six one. Overall, they fell a little bit below expectations, 755 00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,760 but that was really just one guy. That was Spencer Martin. He had 756 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:45,519 fourteen point three negative goals save above expected and he ended up playing a fair 757 00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:46,880 number of games. Dempco had the injuries. We'll talk about him in a 758 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,000 second. They had Delia with twenty goals, sorry, twenty games and Spencer 759 00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:55,719 Martin twenty nine, Artur Silovs, who will talk about just five. But 760 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,960 let's focus on Demko for a minute here, because even though the raw say 761 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,440 percentage doesn't look that good, just a nine oh one save percentage GA three 762 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,039 point one six, but he had five point eight goals save above expected and 763 00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:14,480 his delta Fenwick was really good at point five one. So all on his 764 00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:19,079 thirty two appearances he was good. Unfortunately because of the grain injury, it 765 00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:22,760 doesn't it didn't really help all that much. I'm sure Canucks fans are wondering 766 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,920 how the season would have gone if he was there the whole time. Yeah, 767 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,199 he definitely all performed his expected He was a little worse on the PK, 768 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,199 but that's partially to be expected based on how much more difficult the work 769 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,239 is. I think the issue with Demco is he has had a bunch of 770 00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:42,559 injuries here and there, and the twenty twenty one twenty two season is the 771 00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:45,679 one he actually played the most in. I guess part of his we're wondering 772 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,960 when twenty twenty two or twenty three twenty four do you think that we can 773 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:53,679 get similar strong production and a full is season from him next? Year, 774 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,840 what do you think? Good question becomes, do you think he is the 775 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,000 goalie that posted back to back nine in safe percentage seasons in twenty one, 776 00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:04,800 twenty one, twenty two, or the goalie was eight put up an eighty 777 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,400 eight point three safe percentage in first half this year, and I think based 778 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,960 on the way he played when he came back, which was well north of 779 00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:15,559 north of nine hundred and a safe percentage, that's the goal he is. 780 00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:20,599 But you're right. In the last year he has had two substantial injuries, 781 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,679 and in exactly the kind of areas of his body that you do not want 782 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,920 a goalie to get injured. He heard his foot and then or sorry, 783 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,519 heard his knee and then he heard his growing right. Those are massive, 784 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:35,039 that's everything. He came back. He looked like his old self when he 785 00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:38,679 played once he came back. So he really does feel like a strong bat 786 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,360 and the connects need him to be. But he does feel like a strong 787 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,880 bat to be a solid, top, top tier goalie in this league. 788 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,480 And we've talked a lot about whether he should ever be in besiness consideration. 789 00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,039 I think he's just outside of that. You look at how good the top 790 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:58,159 guys are like Sorrows and Sirokan and guys like that. He's not or hell 791 00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,320 of Buck. He's not quite that level, but he's close and he has 792 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,239 shown enough. I would say, like I said, since he'd broken the 793 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,760 league in nineteen twenty and became the Canucks's number one guy in twenty twenty one, 794 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,599 that he has shown enough that this is a guy. He's going to 795 00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:15,679 play a bunch. Now. Is he gonna get sixty starts like he did 796 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,639 last year? He probably shouldn't. The Canucks do are really hopeful that their 797 00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:22,679 backup this year? Who is when we can maybe just bridge into the backup 798 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,119 discussion here? He touched on it, whether that's Spencer Martin or that's Archer's 799 00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:30,840 sealovs. I think we're looking at they need twenty five starts from their backup, 800 00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,559 and they were hoping Martin would give them that. Martin kind of hit 801 00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:36,599 the wall like he was. They didn't get the starts, they didn't get 802 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,440 any performance from Demco to start. Then Demco got hurt. Then that Martin 803 00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:42,880 had to play a bunch. Martin lost. Martin in the end, is 804 00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:46,400 he's a backup goally at best? Good dude has worked very hard to win 805 00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:51,159 his way back into the NHL after kind of bombing out in Colorado. I 806 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,760 think there's every reason to think he'll be He'll certainly get the first sort of 807 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,079 look because they I think they want like Archer, Sealoves has had an incredible 808 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,079 sort of He had a really strong season. He played well in Vancouver, 809 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,639 he played really well in the HL, was the team MVP in Abbotsford at 810 00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,719 their HL team, and now that this really great run at the World Championships 811 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:15,079 with lap yet like he has basically took them to the final four. Right, 812 00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:16,960 it was a guy the whole team played well and obviously playing home helps, 813 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,599 but he was a big story here. And so this is a player 814 00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,280 that the Canucks want to keep. They want him to play right like he 815 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,360 he didn't play a ton during in the COVID year in twenty twenty twenty one, 816 00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:30,719 he barely played and that was the distance he's come since then is actually 817 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,280 fantastic. This is a team that's leaped delighted with the progress he's shown. 818 00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:37,840 So I think it's every reason I think he'll start the year in the HL. 819 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,159 Martin will be the backup to Demco. But if Martin falters at all, 820 00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:43,639 they know they can bring selves in and he can be I think they 821 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,760 believe that he can be their kind of number two guy. If they really 822 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,400 need to, they'd rather not, but that's how they're going to go, 823 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,679 Martin is They're hoping he gives them some serviceable results, plays well enough. 824 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,599 But at the end of the day, Demco, I think there's their ideal 825 00:51:55,639 --> 00:52:00,039 would be he starts of twenty fifty five fifty five issue games and then you 826 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:05,519 get twenty seven games from your backup and hopeful there certainly will be hopeful that 827 00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:07,960 gets them enough. But again, like this is a team that is desperate 828 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,639 to make the playoffs, and teams that are desperate that makes the playoffs may 829 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,760 lean on their number one goalie war than they probably should. So that's the 830 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,800 other thing is that if the floor for Demco's fifty five, you might get 831 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,679 sixty five starts and a sixty five start goalie who's posting a nine fifteen, 832 00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:27,239 nineteen, nine, ten s a percentage. That's pretty good for your fantasy 833 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,559 team, isn't it. Oh yeah, totally, definitely. Well Patrick, 834 00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:35,599 this has been great information on the Vancouver Canucks. Why don't you tell people 835 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,119 how they can follow your work and keep up with this team as it has 836 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:44,480 I'm sure an exciting offseason. The Province dot com is where where I write. 837 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,079 It's the Vancouver Province in the newspaper here in Vancouver. And you know 838 00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:50,920 there is that Twitter machine that I'm less and less a fan of. But 839 00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:55,760 ad rising Action there. I'm on Blue Sky, same same I've gotten in 840 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,079 there, so if you manage to squeeze your way in there, it's the 841 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:01,360 same handle. I'm on the wait list. Now you go, Yeah, 842 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,239 Rising Action dot Blue beast Guy dot Social if you want to find me on 843 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,599 Blue Sky and try to figure out how navigating all the way through all this. 844 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,239 But always happy to answer questions as long as you don't say mean things 845 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,639 or swear at me and swear at me. My rule is you swear at 846 00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:20,079 me, you get a block. But if only if you're really annoying, 847 00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:22,880 do you get muted. Otherwise I'm there to hear what weird things you have 848 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,880 to ask, But yeah, there you go, so I don't get thankfully, 849 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,719 don't get too many weird questions. Mostly just get people who want who 850 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,039 want to see this team do better than they've been doing and want to see 851 00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:37,159 ownership actually believe that's actually let to the hockey ops department do their jobs. 852 00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,280 So we'll see what that's right. Our listeners aren't like that, Patrick, 853 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,480 No way, they'll they'll be nice when they follow. They're good folks, 854 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,599 all right, Thanks Patrick. I hope we can talk to you again about 855 00:53:45,599 --> 00:54:06,880 these Vancouver Canucks. Thanks Pallas. That's get fired grab Now it's your weekly 856 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:13,239 goalie talk with Kats Silverman Cats Instincts. Time again for another edition of Cat's 857 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:19,039 Instincts, this time Vancouver Canucks edition. And they got some goalies, They 858 00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:23,079 got some decent guys to talk about. Arturs SI loves, loves, SI 859 00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:28,679 loves. Not quite sure. He is a Latvian, so it probably has 860 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,400 It has a bunch of weird signals and signs above the consonants and vows that 861 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,960 I'm not really sure what it does. But he's the twenty nineteen six round 862 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,639 pick, six foot four, two undred and fifteen pounds, just turned twenty 863 00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:44,199 two Canada North America last season and struggled a little bit in the HL, 864 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,519 but when he got called up to the NHL, he actually looked pretty good. 865 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,800 And of all the goalies that they played in the NHL level, he 866 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,559 wasn't the worst spencer Martin, at least in terms of goal Sabe above expected 867 00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:01,199 took that Moniker, and of course Stemp was pretty great. And according to 868 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,960 certain metrics, Siloves was similar to Colin Delia, who has at least played 869 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,280 a bunch of NHL games to his credit. So in the Howey prospecting model, 870 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,079 he's got right now a twenty one percent chance of being an NHLer and 871 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,920 he certainly has pretty decent size, and he's twenty two, so he's not 872 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,559 super young. What can you tell us about What does Kat's instincts tell us 873 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:28,079 about Silves? He's a mixed bag for me. I think he's an incredible 874 00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:35,880 skater who greatly struggles with his transitions sometimes, which for better for worse. 875 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,679 That's something that's easy enough to mask if with good skating, which he manages 876 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:44,480 to do sometimes. The only problem is that Vancouver is not a good environment 877 00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:49,800 for allowing that to be masked per se, because that team has some absolutely 878 00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:54,599 awful defense sometimes, and so it's always tough to gauge just how a goaltender 879 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,400 is going to thrive. When you look at Vancouver in their system, they're 880 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,280 just one of those teams that doesn't give us a whole lot to work with. 881 00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:06,800 I think that he struggles a little bit with his depth management, a 882 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,400 little bit with his transitions. Pretty good at reading the plays though, and 883 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,440 manages to adapt to chaos pretty well, which he manages to do with both 884 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,559 that good skating ability, and he seems like he doesn't let some of those 885 00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:25,880 bad goals spook him, and he doesn't change up his play too much when 886 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,800 he does have a bad goal, which is always nice to see in Vancouver 887 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,280 because that's a good environment for a guy who kind of shakes it off well. 888 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,679 I'd love to see how he'd do behind a stronger team. But he's 889 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,199 doing well for the Abbotsford Canucks last time I checked, to put up some 890 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,280 pretty decent numbers in the minors. You obviously don't want to trap him down 891 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:52,360 there for too long, but I think if they're able to let him play 892 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,000 at least half of next season down in the HL again, just to give 893 00:56:55,079 --> 00:57:01,840 him a little bit more consistency see what Vancouver's doing if they start to free 894 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:08,079 fall. You don't want to waste his development behind a team that's essentially setting 895 00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:14,400 him up to lose. But if it seems like they're structurally at least treading 896 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,840 water. It's worth bringing him up and giving him another look, just because 897 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,440 I think he did roll with it really nicely last year. He played well 898 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,559 at the minor league level. When he came up, he didn't absolutely fall 899 00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:30,159 apart. We've seen a couple different goaltenders when they get called up to Vancouver 900 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:37,000 just absolutely plummet during those first couple of games because that team does not their 901 00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,079 new arrivals very well. And that, for lack of a better way to 902 00:57:40,159 --> 00:57:43,880 put it, Yeah, I think he's a fun goaltender. It's it's always 903 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,360 interesting seeing how goaltenders play out in Vancouver because I think they're a team that 904 00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:52,039 just has consistently done a good job of keeping some really good guys in the 905 00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:55,760 wings. We've talked about a couple of teams in the past that just don't 906 00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:02,360 seem to whether it's lack of availability or black of guys being willing to come 907 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,000 to their teams for whatever reason, they don't seem like they're willing to stockpile 908 00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:09,679 the cupboard very effectively. Vancouver is not one of those. They do a 909 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:15,960 bad job with some things like contract amounts in duration for their aging skaters, 910 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,400 and that's fine, but when it comes to people, when it comes to 911 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,239 goaltending, they do a really good job of just keeping they have. They 912 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,400 usually have at least one, if not two, good goaltenders at the NHL 913 00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:29,920 level, and then they usually have at least one, if not two, 914 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,360 good goaltenders in the miners, and they usually have at least one guy who 915 00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:37,559 whether it was Michael Gartigue for a while, Richard Bachman, they usually have 916 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,159 someone in their system who's like a solid tweeterer who you can keep them in 917 00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:45,880 the AHL there are a good locker room guy for the younger goaltenders that are 918 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,840 being drafted and brought up into the system and it sets them up to succeed. 919 00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,440 So confident in him. I am not always confident in Vancouver as a 920 00:58:54,519 --> 00:59:00,400 whole, but I'm usually pretty confident in what they haven't done. Awesome, 921 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,360 that's great to hear. And let's move on to the next guy we were 922 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,599 going to bring up, and that is Tie Young. Tye Young was a 923 00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:10,840 twenty twenty two fifth round pick, so just this past draft, he's actually 924 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,920 extremely young for his draft year. He's only four days away from being eligible 925 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:22,199 this year twenty twenty three, so really an interesting timeline there, and he 926 00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:25,840 has been playing in the WHL for the Prince George Cougars. Raw numbers don't 927 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,320 look great eight ninety nine percentage in thirty four games, three point nine. 928 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,920 He's six three eighty three pounds. But again, being really young and maybe 929 00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,239 not being on the best team can do that a little bit for you. 930 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,679 So, Cat, what are your instincts tell us about Tie Young? He's 931 00:59:43,719 --> 00:59:46,440 another interesting one. I Vancouver always gives us so much to talk about. 932 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,760 I was curious whether or not he was going to get drafted this last year 933 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,679 when I was looking through just scouting last year's draft boss, because he was 934 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,880 one of two goaltenders on the Prince George Cougars who was eligible. The other 935 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,159 one was their starter, Tie Brennan, who played a completely different game from 936 01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:07,599 Tye Young. It was the two ties. Tie Brennan was literally willing to 937 01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:10,559 throw anything but the kitchen, sank at the puck and see what happened. 938 01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:15,239 And Tay Young played this game that was like structured, almost to a vault, 939 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,480 and he would just keep his technique consistent even when everything else was crumbling 940 01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:24,760 around him. Because they were a bad team last year, and so I 941 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,840 wasn't sure if ty Young was even going to get drafted because of that, 942 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,320 because like you said, he was just a couple of days away from the 943 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,119 cutoff. I didn't know if teams would want to see what would happen in 944 01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:39,079 his plus one eligibility year, and Vancouver took a chance on him, which 945 01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:44,639 is nice. I think he stalled out a little bit for me this year 946 01:00:44,679 --> 01:00:50,519 because I wanted to see he was so young playing in the WHL his draft 947 01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:54,920 year. I wanted to see if after a year's experience, he started mixing 948 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,719 things up a little bit. I wanted to see if he had that situational 949 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:06,480 awareness to deviate from his sort of routine structure to in technical game when he 950 01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:12,519 needed to. Because Prince George was once again a team that just didn't do 951 01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:15,719 a whole lot to set him up to succeed. He didn't necessarily do well 952 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,639 for them in the playoffs, but they certainly did nothing to help him there. 953 01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:23,000 They weren't a team that was expected to go far. I wanted to 954 01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:27,280 see a little more creativity and he didn't really give me that. But he 955 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,039 kept his technique very let's lord him looking for very consistent. That's it. 956 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:36,880 So I just want to see what he does behind a stronger team, and 957 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,519 I wish we'd been able to see that this year. I don't know if 958 01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:45,679 he'll get traded to another team or what will happen there in terms of before 959 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,039 he hits the pros, because I think he has another year of eligibility left 960 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:52,840 here in the WHL. But I like what he has to work with. 961 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:59,440 I just want to see from a decision making standpoint, he runs the risk 962 01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:04,519 for me maybe becoming a cow pickard, someone who has a really good technical 963 01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:10,360 game but just cannot deviate from the structure of their game to make things a 964 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,800 little more creative when they need to, and almost lose games sometimes as a 965 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,719 result because they won't just throw themselves in desperation at the puck every once in 966 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,400 a while. Yeah, I've I've been burned a couple of times by Calvin 967 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:30,400 Pickard pickups in fantasy. He has the ability to, or he had the 968 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:36,000 ability to, absolutely blow up your numbers. So that's a blast from the 969 01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:38,280 best. Was a blast? Yeah you did? Yeah? Anyways, Yeah, 970 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,599 hopefully Taian can Yeah you said, play in front of a better thing 971 01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:45,400 that that obviously can make a big difference for goalie, So we'll wait and 972 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,719 see on that. He definitely has another year of WHL experience, so we'll 973 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,000 see, as you said, maybe get traded. And the next guy akus 974 01:02:53,679 --> 01:03:00,360 ken Vu, and he is a finish prospect. He was drafted on fifth 975 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:05,480 round. He's six foot four, ninety pounds and he just came to North 976 01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:08,400 America. He was playing in the HIFK system, playing in the U twenty 977 01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:14,679 SM Saria last couple of seasons and he was at Harvard only. He only 978 01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:17,719 played a couple of games and he did though he did represent Finland internationally. 979 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,760 So Cat, what do your instincts tell us about kuskin Vo. I really 980 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,280 want to see what another year two of North American coaching will do for him, 981 01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:36,440 because I think he he plays like some of the more fun finished goaltenders, 982 01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:40,239 but some of the more chaotic ones. For sure. He has some 983 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,079 of these other guys that we've talked about in the past, I say, 984 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,559 I wish they had just a little more explosive speed to their game, and 985 01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:51,880 that's not the case for Couskin Boo. I think he, especially his lower 986 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,880 body movement, is really quick, really nimble, really agile. He does 987 01:03:54,920 --> 01:04:00,239 a good job of getting across the crease quickly. He stays within his pas 988 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,559 really nicely. He doesn't get too aggressive, but weirdly enough, he sometimes 989 01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:05,199 got passive when I was watching him in games, and he would fall behind 990 01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:10,280 the play and need to make those last second moves across the crease. I 991 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:17,119 did a lot of really wide low stances that almost created this imbalance when it 992 01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:21,199 came to his recovery, and I just wanted to see him stay a little 993 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:26,320 more engaged. And obviously we didn't get a huge game sample size from him 994 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,440 this last year. We saw an international play and then we saw only a 995 01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:34,679 few games at Harvard, so that may have just been struggling to get into 996 01:04:34,719 --> 01:04:40,000 a rhythm with not a ton of consistent game play. So there's a chance 997 01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:43,960 that we'll see him really clean that up and it'll be smooth sailing moving forward, 998 01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:46,679 because he does stay caught up with the play when he is engaged, 999 01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:51,960 and when it seems like he's tracking with the play really consistently, he moves 1000 01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:55,760 with it really nice, like he doesn't seem like he struggles to keep up 1001 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,760 with the pacing of the game. He just sometimes seems like when it comes 1002 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,800 to the tracking, like he's just getting a little complacent and then something gets 1003 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,679 going a little too quickly. There's too much cross ice movement, and it 1004 01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:09,599 seems like he hasn't no crap kind of moment and has to almost overcompensate and 1005 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,679 doesn't seem like he quite gets himself into the right rhythm. So that may 1006 01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:18,440 have just been something from not getting consistent gameplay. It almost sounds like maybe 1007 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,639 he loses his focus or a little bit or a little bit. Yeah, 1008 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,119 I know it's a little different on that big ice too. Maybe you can 1009 01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:29,559 zone out a little bit longer on the bigger international ice than you can on 1010 01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:36,280 the small North American ice. Yeah, it's some of those. It's weird 1011 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,719 because a lot of the Finnish guys. Finland's pro league is one of the 1012 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,760 only ones that doesn't have a regulated rink size, so they have some rinks 1013 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,000 that are huge and some rinks that are a little closer to North American size. 1014 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,039 And I'd be curious if I really had the time to do it, 1015 01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:55,360 I'd sit down and go through and see what his games look like there, 1016 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,840 because there's a chance some of those guys really do thrive more on the bigger 1017 01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:02,599 surfaces, and then the games where they're playing on the slightly smaller ranks, 1018 01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:06,440 it almost seems like they struggle a little more because their timing is not quite 1019 01:06:06,519 --> 01:06:13,079 right. So there is a way to go and check and measure the rink 1020 01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:15,760 sizes against the game performance and see. But that's more work than I think 1021 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,639 necessarily needs to be done unless I get really bored this summer. But now 1022 01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:25,719 I think he did seem like he lost focus a little bit in just a 1023 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,559 couple games, and it wasn't like it was a consistent thing throughout the games. 1024 01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:32,159 There were just a few moments here and there, and a couple of 1025 01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:34,519 the moments that I saw it, he ended up making the save anyway, 1026 01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:40,599 so it's not like it completely burned him. But it's something that I flagged 1027 01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:44,079 as a ah, that's not what I want to see him doing. So 1028 01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:47,000 we'll see. I think hopefully he'll get more games for Harvard next year, 1029 01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:50,800 that would be my assumption, and we'll see if it seems like he levels 1030 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,639 out a little more. Some of those guys that do rely on the rhythm 1031 01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:58,039 of the game, when they are out of game play, out of game 1032 01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:00,360 action for a week or so at a time, it has impact their game 1033 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:05,360 pretty heavily, so he might just be one of those for sure. Thanks 1034 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:11,840 for giving us your instincts on the Vancouver Canuck prospect goalies. We'll be back 1035 01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:30,079 right after this. Do you the Dynasty dig. We're here to talk Dynasty 1036 01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:32,920 dig. We're here to talk Vancouver Canucks and a couple of basic things you 1037 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:38,039 need to know before we start. They got the number eleven pick coming up 1038 01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:43,159 in this twenty twenty three NHL Entry Draft. They have their own first, 1039 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,400 third, fourth, and sixth round picks. They acquired Toronto's third rounder for 1040 01:07:46,519 --> 01:07:50,800 lucchen Detroit's fourth rounder in the Heronic deal, which they is we mentioned. 1041 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,719 They also gave away a first in a second in the future, and the 1042 01:07:54,840 --> 01:08:00,719 Rangers fourth in the Matte deal. Victor has the system ranked thirty eight overall, 1043 01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:06,119 and we're starting with the no brainer. Who is a Victor? Jonathan 1044 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:12,559 Lecremaki is going to be our no brainer. It was a weird season for 1045 01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:17,000 Leamaki overall, not great. I almost didn't make him my no brainer just 1046 01:08:17,079 --> 01:08:21,039 because it was really, quite frankly, a pretty disappointing showing for him, 1047 01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:27,600 especially based on expectation, based on his pedigree and all these kinds of things, 1048 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,479 so we were Yeah, it was definitely not ideal, but we'll talk 1049 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,399 a little bit more about that in terms of the details of what went on. 1050 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:40,079 He was the fifteenth overall pick in case you forgot last year twenty twenty 1051 01:08:40,119 --> 01:08:43,880 two. His club, dru Garden's IF was in the Hockey els Venskin this 1052 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,720 season and he had nine points in twenty nine games there with them. Really 1053 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:56,079 not a strong showing, but he did have fifteen points in fifteen games and 1054 01:08:56,199 --> 01:09:00,680 the promotion qualification playoffs, which was pretty awesome. He had five goals and 1055 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,840 tennissists there, so his five goals during the fifteen playoff games were more than 1056 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,960 the three he had the entire regular season in twenty nine games. So really 1057 01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:14,960 disappointing during the regular season from a goalscorer perspective, but certainly picked it up 1058 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,279 in the playoffs. He did all he could, but these Your Gardens fell 1059 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:25,199 one game short of getting promoted back to the SHL. Moto Hockey earned that 1060 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,239 distinction, so they'll be back in the Shl's Your Gardens back in the akaels 1061 01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:33,439 Fenskin. But like an Amaki is going to be in the SHL next year, 1062 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:38,600 he's going to be on loan to orebro Hk, so that's good for 1063 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,399 his development and we'll have to see how that goes. He's still, i 1064 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,840 would say, a ways away from being NHL ready, but we'll see what 1065 01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:50,920 other people say about that too. He is really young, though it's important 1066 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:56,319 to remember he's a July late July birthdate, and so he's been eighteen all 1067 01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:59,720 this season. He was seventeen all his draft season, so he's got a 1068 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,199 little bit more runway. I would say, we have some new analytics to 1069 01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:09,159 talk about. We have a new partnership with sport Contract and so we will 1070 01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:12,640 be talking about things in a different way than we did with instad And one 1071 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,319 of the things I love about them that you can see as a patron if 1072 01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:18,039 you look at the show notes is they have a bunch of analytics and per 1073 01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:23,680 sixty stats, so you can see in really clear, colorful bars what kinds 1074 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,199 of things he's really good at and what he's not and so good at. 1075 01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:30,239 In terms of Lekamaki's playmaking, his slot passes and primary shots are not great, 1076 01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:35,159 but his ozone passing is really good. In transition, he's mostly he 1077 01:10:35,319 --> 01:10:43,159 has some issues with entries, but his percent exit and entry is overall pretty 1078 01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:45,640 good. He is someone who shooting is a big part for him, so 1079 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,720 his shots per sixty are average to maybe a little bit high, and defensively 1080 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,319 is something that you don't necessarily think of him as being good at. But 1081 01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:59,239 his course against per sixty was actually pretty good, and his force dumpins we're 1082 01:10:59,279 --> 01:11:02,119 really not bad. But the rest of his expected goals and some of these 1083 01:11:02,199 --> 01:11:06,199 things weren't as good as you would like. And that kind of makes sense 1084 01:11:06,319 --> 01:11:11,439 based on the sort of struggles he had during the year. I imagine if 1085 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,840 we broke all this down in the playoffs, it would be a completely different 1086 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,680 story. But we need to hear a little bit more about what makes this 1087 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,520 player tick, Jesse, and so you're gonna let us know what our scout 1088 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:25,239 thinks. That's right, we're shaking it up FHL scout Jeremy's report. I'm 1089 01:11:25,279 --> 01:11:30,199 going to let you know what Jeremy saw to compliment what you've heard skating for 1090 01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:34,159 Jeremy's above average good at making shark turns. Consider it more shifty or agile 1091 01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:38,880 than fast. But the balance and strength is there. Jeremy has his puck 1092 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,319 handling as elite. Clear strength is with the puck on the stick. Sometimes 1093 01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:45,039 it looks like he has a string. Nobody can catch him, and he 1094 01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:48,479 does all this while keeping his head up or knowing where to play a pass 1095 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,680 for his teammates. The shot above average as well for Jeremy's got a good 1096 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,399 shot when he chooses to use it, maybe doesn't shoot as often as he 1097 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:03,680 should. And the IQ of vision and anticipatient panic meter just average for Jeremy 1098 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,920 doesn't seem to have a particular knack for getting open or anticipating the play, 1099 01:12:08,319 --> 01:12:13,199 but again great if the puck's on his stick. Defense average looks a little 1100 01:12:13,279 --> 01:12:16,439 disengaged in the defensive zone. Don't like hearing that, but often following a 1101 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:21,199 stick length with his stick parallel to the ice. Best asset vision and passing 1102 01:12:21,319 --> 01:12:29,399 biggest concern effort level and consistency effort level, defensive issues of being average. 1103 01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:33,560 I don't know top tier potential where would put Jeremy put him Tier two probably 1104 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:39,279 is the top tier potential. Most likely tier is tier three. Bash is 1105 01:12:39,319 --> 01:12:43,720 going to be limited per Jeremy's looks, but he does. He does have 1106 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,880 points potential. It's just not elite. He's the type of guy that's going 1107 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,560 to be frustrating in leagues that include peripherals, mid tier producer and points only 1108 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:57,319 league. And if he's going to pick a style comparable Toivo Tara Vinen similarities 1109 01:12:57,399 --> 01:13:01,119 in vision and passing abilities long but the Shad don't utilize enough. So yeah, 1110 01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:04,720 Lacaramaki ability to be a secondary piece in a top six line, not 1111 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,439 an offensive driver on his own. And now we're going to talk about Mason 1112 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:15,800 Black, the NHL rank king himself and the comparison he put out for the 1113 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:23,279 people on the Twitter, Jonathan Lacaramaki versus Nick or Robertson. That is an 1114 01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:27,600 example he put out on There is one thing we can look at PNHL E 1115 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,439 similarity scores. We've got some Scott Artinal Keeper Bellows and Tyler Sagan, but 1116 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:36,720 Lakiramaki and Robertson have some similarity out there in the voting. And he also 1117 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:41,920 we also have a little bit of a look on Joakim Kimmel for this guy. 1118 01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:46,199 But in terms of the vote out there, Victor Lakarimaki sixty nine percent, 1119 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:53,359 Nick Robertson thirty one percent, and as we know, Victor speaks of 1120 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:58,399 Nick Robertson as Robertson the Lester in the Stanley Cup semi finals have taught us 1121 01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,039 that if nothing else, or the Stanley Cup play offs, that he is 1122 01:14:00,279 --> 01:14:08,880 right. So Victor Lacarimaki or Nick Robertson, it's a good one, I 1123 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:15,159 think because both of disappointed a little bit. I think Robertson maybe for a 1124 01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:17,600 little bit longer, just in terms of how long we've been waiting for him. 1125 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,560 He was a twenty nineteen second round pick. Also really young for his 1126 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:26,439 draft here, so he's still only twenty one, and he didn't play a 1127 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,199 lot of games this year. I think there were some injuries and that has 1128 01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:31,079 continued to be the case. And part of it maybe just because he's a 1129 01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:35,119 little bit small. He's five eleven one eighty and he's twenty one. He's 1130 01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:38,640 probably not growing anymore. Is a little bit on the smaller side, gets 1131 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,600 plays really fast, kind of gets bumped around a little bit. So there's 1132 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,880 that sort of disappointment of it, is he ever going to hit? Is 1133 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,680 he ever going to be a thing? Versus Lekatamaki, who had a lot 1134 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:53,840 of promise in his draft here and then really has cooled off quite a bit. 1135 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,279 I guess you would say in these types of situations, Jesse, I 1136 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,680 generally leaned towards the guy who has failed to disappoint me for as long. 1137 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,359 So in that case, I'm going with the people and let at Amaki. 1138 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:11,279 I still have my reservations about him, and I think that Robertson could still 1139 01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:15,239 end up being the better player. Part of it is the situation that he's 1140 01:15:15,359 --> 01:15:18,279 in. It's going to be it's gonna be tough to break into this lineup. 1141 01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:21,680 It sounds like some changes are coming, so maybe he will get an 1142 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:27,439 opportunity in Toronto. Like an Amaki, though, is really the one forward 1143 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,880 that you would really lean on in terms of fantasy in Vancouver. Although there 1144 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:36,800 are some other forwards that certainly have other skills and do other things that might 1145 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,119 be more interesting or valuable to the team as a whole, but he's the 1146 01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:45,960 one you want in terms of a fantasy perspective. So it's nice to have 1147 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,920 the best forward from a team, and that would be like an Amaki. 1148 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,760 Yeah, I agree. Let's go back to the wide end of the funnel 1149 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:58,800 with Lakamaki rather than the narrow end with Robertson. You mentioned he was a 1150 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,520 big forward on this team. I understand that your need to know. Prospect 1151 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:08,720 is a defenceman. Who is it Victor your real could draft step. That's 1152 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:14,359 k U d r y a v t Sev And he's a nineteen year old 1153 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,279 six foot two hundred pound left handed d He was taken just this past draft 1154 01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:23,039 in the seventh round, and yes, we are talking about a seventh round 1155 01:16:23,119 --> 01:16:26,399 draft pick. He had a pretty good season though, and that's part of 1156 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,279 that's part of why we're here talking about it. He is Russian as he 1157 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,600 sounds, but he is not in Russia, and so that's good, I 1158 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:40,199 guess in terms of his ability to maybe progress up the ladder. He played 1159 01:16:40,359 --> 01:16:43,640 the last two seasons in the HL for this Sue Greyhounds. He was in 1160 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:48,760 the Loco yaroslav system before that in twenty twenty twenty one and he was in 1161 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:55,760 the MHL there. So anyways, this past season he had fifty points in 1162 01:16:56,039 --> 01:16:59,560 sixty seven games. That was after thirty nine points in sixty eight games in 1163 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,840 his draft years. So fifty points in sixty seven is pretty good, I 1164 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:08,720 would say for a D plus one. Looking at his tracking data on Mitch 1165 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:14,239 Brown's tracking, he has not so good in terms of his shots for sixty 1166 01:17:14,359 --> 01:17:16,479 really low and so that the shots aren't going to be great, but really 1167 01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:20,800 pretty good in terms of expected A ones and slot passes. A lot of 1168 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:28,680 good transition work being done defensively, good expective, primary point involvement is really 1169 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,560 high. So I think there's a little bit more here for Crew Draft step 1170 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,520 and part of it might just be based on the team there and Sue and 1171 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:43,000 so that that's something that maybe can evolve. He's gonna be nineteen the rest 1172 01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:45,720 of this year, so he's not eligible to be in the HL, so 1173 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:50,079 he's going to be back in the OHL for his third season there, and 1174 01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:54,199 well, we will have to wait at least two three years, I would 1175 01:17:54,199 --> 01:17:57,880 imagine, until he has a chance to break it break into the NHL. 1176 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,960 But Jesse, you're gonna let us know what our FH scout has to say 1177 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:05,960 about kill kudraft Stev. That's right, Victor. Our FHL scout. Buston 1178 01:18:06,079 --> 01:18:12,560 says that Crew Drafts has some impressive growth from the start of the season to 1179 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,239 the end. A well rounded defender managed to improve upon everything he's done well 1180 01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:20,119 to solidify the best aspects of his game, but still looks to take an 1181 01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:27,119 even bigger step that will decide his potential NHL upside. Skating very good, 1182 01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:30,239 very strong, seemed like a weakness in the past, but Austin thinks that 1183 01:18:30,359 --> 01:18:35,000 it improved over the season and it looked a lot more relaxed. Puck Handling 1184 01:18:35,119 --> 01:18:40,279 slightly above average, good puck control. Vision looks to be the driving factor 1185 01:18:40,399 --> 01:18:45,640 of his mobility, but puck handling is also quite good. Shot average. 1186 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,960 He's got a strong shot, he's not afraid to use it. He isn't 1187 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,880 an elite shooter, but he has a good bit of comfortability with shot attempts. 1188 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,520 Could have a big scoring increase. Therefore, next season in the OHL, 1189 01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,760 if he leans into that. Offense IQ very good. Probably the best 1190 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,439 aspect of his game. I like to hear that and one of the defining 1191 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:09,760 reasons he's been able to grow as a player. He's a guy who plays 1192 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,399 the pro. More he plays like the pro, the more he plays out 1193 01:19:13,399 --> 01:19:15,560 there, constantly reading the game at a high level, and if he's going 1194 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,640 to make the NHL, his intelligence will be a big reason why. Defense 1195 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:24,920 good. Not all that physical, but does make up for that with mature 1196 01:19:25,119 --> 01:19:30,880 and protective game. Best asset mentality. One of the smartest players in the 1197 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,600 OHL has the awareness to know what aspects of his game need the most fine 1198 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,800 tuning. That's why you hear about improvement, I imagine, and biggest concern 1199 01:19:39,039 --> 01:19:43,159 growth. He's shown strong growth, but as a DY plus two next season, 1200 01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:45,840 he's going to need to expand on his game as well. All around 1201 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,119 game strong, but it needs to build on his game and find strategies to 1202 01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:53,640 take a high end aspect to make his game more difficult to play against and 1203 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,800 top tier potential. At his best, Austin thinks he could be a consistent 1204 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,039 third or fourth defenseman who can defend well in puck battles get a few points 1205 01:20:01,119 --> 01:20:03,920 as well. If he shows the confidence he has with the puck. Double 1206 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:09,399 digit goals could be possible. Potential to be a pesky player who won his 1207 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,840 best night a goal seeking forward just can't beat. But then also most likely, 1208 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,319 Austin could see him on a team's third line a high end hller as 1209 01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:20,800 well. How he progresses in the next couple of years will determine that. 1210 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:28,640 In a stylistic comparable, he comes with Dmitri Kolakop but potentially better offensive numbers. 1211 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:34,199 Mason Black, the NHL rank king throughout Jorian Donovan as a potential comparison 1212 01:20:34,359 --> 01:20:39,199 here, and we also have in addition to Donovan out there, we have 1213 01:20:39,279 --> 01:20:43,720 a couple of other comparisons. Matt Carl one of them that got looked at, 1214 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,159 and you can see more on that if you get into our patron notes. 1215 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,880 But Thriv versus Jorian Donovan was the poll that Mason Black, the NHL 1216 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:58,000 Rank King, put out there on Twitter, and Kudreyetzev is the winner fifty 1217 01:20:58,079 --> 01:21:02,159 five to forty five over Orient Donovan. Do you agree with that or do 1218 01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:06,159 you want to go a different way in this vote? Yeah? I think 1219 01:21:06,279 --> 01:21:12,239 that's It's one of those things where I think that kudraft Stev has a little 1220 01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:17,199 bit more to offer. He's a little bit smaller than Donovan. They're both 1221 01:21:17,359 --> 01:21:21,079 fairly young in terms of their development. Their birthdays aren't too much of part, 1222 01:21:21,119 --> 01:21:25,720 so there isn't too much that separates them there. I think the production 1223 01:21:26,119 --> 01:21:30,720 is a little bit higher for draft Stef and I like that part a little 1224 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,840 bit more, but both of these guys are probably not too much different in 1225 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:41,520 terms of their projective outlook. It's interesting the comp with Matt Carl because I 1226 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,079 saw a lot of him in San Jose and he was someone who he came 1227 01:21:45,079 --> 01:21:48,720 out of college and had so much potential and he looks so good at times, 1228 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,399 but he just you couldn't defend on a regular basis enough to be able 1229 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,600 to unlock his offense. And I think that's a pretty underlooked part for a 1230 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,359 lot of a lot of these guys, And so it seems like kind of 1231 01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:04,960 the opposite with Ku draft seves he has better overall defensive game and no matter 1232 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:09,199 of whether he can unlock the offense, but I think that's strong, that's 1233 01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:15,359 smarts, and the strong defensive play can help him get there and be more 1234 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,760 consistent. Whereas Carl wasn't he was fine, he was an NHL and so 1235 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,079 that would be a good outcome for her seventh round pick for cou draft stuff. 1236 01:22:23,159 --> 01:22:26,880 But I don't think either of these guys are making or breaking or fantasy 1237 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:31,560 team. But I would go with the voters and lean Ku draft stuff well 1238 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,319 tremendous. And now Victor to keep your eye on prospect. Who is it? 1239 01:22:38,079 --> 01:22:42,680 So this is Jacob trust Scott, probably a name you aren't as familiar 1240 01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,840 with, and I was so disappointed with luck at Imaki season that I almost 1241 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:51,319 made Jacob Trustcott the no brainer but then I realized that was silly. Trustcott, 1242 01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,359 even though I have, I want you to keep your eye on him. 1243 01:22:55,399 --> 01:22:58,920 He's not someone who's like super high end. But I did talk about 1244 01:22:59,039 --> 01:23:01,840 him on a recent or Prospects report, so you might be familiar if you 1245 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,840 listen to that episode. If not, you should. There are other good 1246 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,359 guys in there, but Truscott was a twenty twenty fifth round pick. He's 1247 01:23:09,399 --> 01:23:13,600 a six one, one hundred eighty pound left handed d who was assistant captain 1248 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,239 at Michigan and before that. He's from Michigan. He grew up in the 1249 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,600 New junior system there. He went to the USNTDP for a couple of years, 1250 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:25,880 so he was there not didn't have a prominent role, but he did 1251 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,199 factor in there and was a really solid guy for them. Last season he 1252 01:23:30,399 --> 01:23:34,119 had seventeen points in forty games, and this season he had sixteen and twenty 1253 01:23:34,199 --> 01:23:39,239 three games, so a bit more production relative to the number of games he 1254 01:23:39,359 --> 01:23:44,560 played. He also had really important minutes and drove play really well. He's 1255 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,760 a guy that has really good bash and he has experienced playing with elite defenseman 1256 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:53,840 with the last name of Hughes, and that is something that Vancouver has He 1257 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,279 played with Luke Hughes at Michigan for a good part of the year. They 1258 01:23:58,319 --> 01:24:01,720 are both left handed. Both Quinn, Luke and Jacob Trustcott are left handed, 1259 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,079 and so that creates a bit of an issue. My narrative falls apart 1260 01:24:05,079 --> 01:24:08,159 a little bit. There would be nice if he was right handed and just 1261 01:24:08,279 --> 01:24:12,640 would fit in seamlessly on on Quinn's right side, but we also know that 1262 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,119 Trustcott has played really well on his off side, and we also know that 1263 01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:20,159 Quinn often likes to play on his off side offensively. He can walk to 1264 01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:24,920 the middle and get a good shot there. But anyways, that's in the 1265 01:24:25,039 --> 01:24:29,560 future. Remains to be seen whether he can even get that far. But 1266 01:24:30,079 --> 01:24:32,119 Trustcott is going back to Michigan next year. He's a guy though, that 1267 01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:36,880 I could see actually coming right out of college and into the NHL after next 1268 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,600 season, because he's already pretty NHL ready, and so he has some pretty 1269 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,640 strong upside already, and that's nice to see. In one more year of 1270 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,960 college is going to make him all the more ready. So might be someone 1271 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,079 who's a little early now for some people, but if you're in a deep 1272 01:24:51,159 --> 01:24:55,279 league, you may just have an NHL or at the end of next season, 1273 01:24:55,279 --> 01:24:58,199 and that would be cool. He might come right after the college season. 1274 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:03,560 Looking at his tracking data, Trustcott really excels in expected goals for sixty 1275 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:09,079 and expected primary cists for sixty. Those are really off the charts in terms 1276 01:25:09,119 --> 01:25:12,159 of positives for him. He shoots a fair amount, got a lot of 1277 01:25:12,199 --> 01:25:15,239 slot plast passes. His transition game isn't as dominant as you would like, 1278 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:20,119 but he is a little bit positive in those areas. And basically he just 1279 01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:24,159 he influences the game in a lot of ways. And Mitch Brown has like 1280 01:25:24,279 --> 01:25:28,119 game score, expected primary points, advantages created, and Trustcott's really good in 1281 01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:30,960 all those. But to hear a little bit more detail, we're going to 1282 01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:35,680 hear from our fractail scout, Jesse. That's right, Jacob Truscott FHL scout. 1283 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:41,479 Jacob has a report no relation to my knowledge a skating average. Got 1284 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:45,920 decent strides are scout Jacob says, in straight line speed, but not necessarily 1285 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,279 explosive enough to give him great acceleration. Does have good top end speed, 1286 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:54,920 puck handling, good super smart with the puck, good breakout passes on the 1287 01:25:55,039 --> 01:25:59,920 ice, nearly always tape to tape while he isn't necessarily dominant with the pucky 1288 01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:04,159 show flashes of making some nice deeks around the defense. Shot good, not 1289 01:26:04,319 --> 01:26:08,760 a huge goal score, is what Jacob said, although the numbers seem to 1290 01:26:09,399 --> 01:26:13,279 suggest otherwise. But quick release loves to shoot the puck through traffic, hoping 1291 01:26:13,319 --> 01:26:15,760 to get stepped or just catches the goalie by surprise. You're going to need 1292 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,039 those dirty goals in the NHL IQ medium. When he's on this game, 1293 01:26:20,399 --> 01:26:26,279 very poised, will maneuver his way through pressure defense great. This is where 1294 01:26:26,279 --> 01:26:31,760 he thrives the most excellent defensive position positioning by having an active stick covering up 1295 01:26:32,199 --> 01:26:36,920 any potential shooting or passing lanes. And again, yeah, that defensive game 1296 01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:42,479 is his best asset. The biggest concern physical game doesn't play with a lot 1297 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,840 of physicality for Jacob's look, and that could make it difficult for him to 1298 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,920 retrieve and break out pucks at the next level. He's going to need to 1299 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:54,000 get stronger. But the potential when you put it all together. A supporting 1300 01:26:54,279 --> 01:26:59,520 top pairing defenseman playing with Luke Hughes proofs he is capable of playing with higher 1301 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,880 end play, and Jacob threw that out there too. He could see him 1302 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,520 playing a supporting defensive role with a player like Luke Hughes or Quick quinn Use, 1303 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:10,720 even if they are different types of players. Most likely tire top six 1304 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:15,000 defenseman in there somewhere, worst case scenario, becomes a reliable bottom pairing defenseman, 1305 01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:19,600 and the stylistic comp that he's thrown up there is Anton Strawman. Both 1306 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:26,880 play responsible two way defensive games, capable of pairing with elite level defenseman. 1307 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,600 So overall a reliable two way defenseman, good puck skill, great defensive awareness 1308 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,359 and ice shot effective in his own zone. And he had a great junior 1309 01:27:35,399 --> 01:27:39,319 season with Michigan, but next year will be the year he's got that chance 1310 01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:45,000 to take the big step forward as the leader of that Michigan Wolverine team. 1311 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,319 In terms of his NHL E, a guy who's going to be put out 1312 01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:55,159 there in our in our Mason Blackpole, Jack Pert is the guy we're going 1313 01:27:55,239 --> 01:27:58,760 to be looking at here with Jacob True Scott and in terms of the p 1314 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,760 NHL E similar score, Eric Jellinas, Brandy gool Mattia Samuelson. I know 1315 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:09,159 Samuels is coming up on a future episode. True Scott, Prescott and Pert 1316 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:15,119 Jack Pert, which one of those would Mason Black's pull come up with and 1317 01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:20,479 it's Jack Pert by a landslide over Jacob Trustcott seventy four to twenty six percent 1318 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:28,439 Victor Is that an accurate assessment of these two guys? I think that Pert 1319 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,319 has a longer track record of being super relevant and someone who's interesting. And 1320 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:38,159 what I love is that you can actually see this on Mason Black's app. 1321 01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:42,079 If you track the PNHL over time, you can see the same thing or 1322 01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:46,680 similar thing on the hockey prospecting in terms of like star potential and all that. 1323 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,560 I think it's important just to it's to look at the trend, right, 1324 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:55,840 and so the trend for Pert has been higher, but it trended down 1325 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,479 a little bit, whereas Trustcott he's been up and down a little bit. 1326 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:05,479 And so currently trust Good is similar to maybe slightly higher. But Pert has 1327 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:11,960 a longer track record and had higher upside previously. Where they're now are crossing 1328 01:29:12,039 --> 01:29:15,359 in terms of their trajectory. And if you believe that trust Good is going 1329 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,840 to really bust out next year when he has all the opportunity at Michigan, 1330 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,840 if you think about it, he's had power, he's had hughes, he's 1331 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,359 had other guys there. He's not going to have that next year, and 1332 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:30,079 so he really could be the guy and bust Out I think. And Pert, 1333 01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:33,079 by the way, in case people forgot or don't know, he's been 1334 01:29:33,119 --> 01:29:36,039 at St. Cloud State the last couple of years and he's been on the 1335 01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:40,199 World junior team the last two years, and so I think that is a 1336 01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:44,399 couple more feathers in his cap And for that reason, I probably would take 1337 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,560 Pert. He's in the Minnesota system and so there's a little bit more competition 1338 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:54,239 there, But I still think that he's probably the better prospect. But just 1339 01:29:54,319 --> 01:29:58,840 in terms of what Vancouver has, I think that Trustcott has a much better 1340 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,119 opportunity, like literally walk into the into a role as early as next season. 1341 01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:05,399 So I like that about Trustcout, but I would take Part. I 1342 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,000 think that I don't know that it should be this wide of a margin, 1343 01:30:09,159 --> 01:30:15,560 but definitely it makes sense to me. Great. Yeah, so Jesse, 1344 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,239 there more guys talk about. We don't have time here, but if you're 1345 01:30:17,239 --> 01:30:20,920 a patreon you can listen to my top ten recap per team on Patreon and 1346 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:26,239 if you're interested in doing some scouting or anything like that, you can shoot 1347 01:30:26,279 --> 01:30:29,119 me a DM on Twitter. You can check out the awesome access that we 1348 01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:31,920 have with sport contract as a scout and you can see all the great videos 1349 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,520 and data that we have. So do that on Twitter, discord, or 1350 01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:41,680 email us if you're interest in doing that or contributing to the show. Right 1351 01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:51,800 with big repause, come back, it blows out the show. Hey everybody, 1352 01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:55,920 before we get out of here. A couple of things to remind you 1353 01:30:56,079 --> 01:30:59,439 of. One of them fantracks dot com. It's the place to play all 1354 01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,159 of your fan to see sports leagues. You can customize your trading, draft 1355 01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:06,359 picks, you can do three way trades, you can do rookie drafts, 1356 01:31:06,399 --> 01:31:11,800 you can customize rookie eligibility. There are literally hundreds of scoring settings. Do 1357 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,960 you think I'm kidding? I'm not kidding. And the minors player pools are 1358 01:31:15,039 --> 01:31:18,119 unmatched. Everybody is there, and if somebody isn't there, send a little 1359 01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:24,720 evidence to them on a little form and they will become there. Pretty Much 1360 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,800 everything you can customize there, so I won't get into it. If you 1361 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,760 have questions, hit me up, but start your leagues on fantracks. Movie 1362 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,319 your leagues to fantracks for next year. The hockey is already opened the water's 1363 01:31:34,319 --> 01:31:42,159 worm and it is fine. Fantracks HQ has lots of fantasy content podcasts for 1364 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,000 fantasy basketball, baseball, and football. In addition to this here hockey podcast 1365 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,960 and also articles. There are fantasy hockey articles, but there are also articles 1366 01:31:51,039 --> 01:31:55,840 for all the other sports they do, and they do like ten. There's 1367 01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,880 a ton of sports. A couple of things also to mention as we get 1368 01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:04,359 out, Nate Duffett, our new producer. He has been doing yeoman's work 1369 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:08,439 helping us to prepare this show. He's not just a scout, he is 1370 01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:12,600 one of our FHL scouts. But thank you to Nate. Welcome aboard, 1371 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,319 and we definitely need to give him a shout for all the work he did 1372 01:32:15,359 --> 01:32:18,760 on this episode. We're brought to you by Dauber Hockey and Dauber Prospects. 1373 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:23,319 We're proud to be a part of not only the Fantrak's podcast network, but 1374 01:32:23,399 --> 01:32:29,000 also the Dauber Prospects network. Victor is an editor at Dauber Prospects and you 1375 01:32:29,079 --> 01:32:34,039 can follow his work there and you should. You should. He's doing a 1376 01:32:34,119 --> 01:32:38,920 lot of good writing around the draft. He does editing. I think he 1377 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,399 still does some Detroit Redwing stuff from time to time there, so stick in 1378 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,720 there. He has a podcast with Peter Harnling, the you know, Big 1379 01:32:49,079 --> 01:32:53,479 the Big Khuna. Over there at Dabber Prospects they do a show called Dabber 1380 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,960 Prospects Report that is sort of the rebooted Daber Prospects Radio. He and Victor 1381 01:32:58,039 --> 01:33:01,960 and it's great stuff. It's strictly strictly prospect based, so it's a great 1382 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,359 compliment to what you can hear here. I do a second show as well. 1383 01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:09,920 It's called Dynasty Sports Life, and on it I talk about all the 1384 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:15,239 different Dynasty sports basketball, baseball, football, and occasionally hockey, particularly cross 1385 01:33:15,279 --> 01:33:17,079 sport. Right now, I'm doing a lot to do with a new four 1386 01:33:17,159 --> 01:33:21,960 sport league that's going to have a few fantasy Hockey lifers playing the hockey element 1387 01:33:23,039 --> 01:33:25,920 and playing other elements of it. We're going to have a lot of fun 1388 01:33:26,039 --> 01:33:29,680 this summer. If people get interested in four sport, hockey might be a 1389 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,640 place to listen, and frankly, a lot of strategy really can crossover between 1390 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:36,560 sports. You heard about Patreon and the intro, but feel free to join 1391 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:42,600 up with that. The Tidy League is coming. We are already filling some 1392 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,079 of those open spots and the new league of the tiered Dynasty League, so 1393 01:33:46,359 --> 01:33:49,520 people should look into that. If you want to be a part of our 1394 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:55,199 discord, that is free, hit us up. You can email as Fantasy 1395 01:33:55,279 --> 01:34:00,479 Hockey Life at gmail dot com. Hit up Victor on Twitter viic tr n 1396 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,800 O one two or myself Fan Hockey Life. Follow us on Twitter while you're 1397 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,399 there, and hey, while you're following things. Follow the podcast on Apple 1398 01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:12,279 Podcasts, on Spotify. Wherever you follow your podcast, leave us a nice 1399 01:34:12,359 --> 01:34:15,960 rating and review. Thank you for listening. This has been a great time 1400 01:34:15,039 --> 01:34:18,600 talking about our friends to the Pacific Northwest, the Vancouver Canucks, and until 1401 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,199 next time, keep living that fantasy hockey a life.