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without any further ado, we're going to bring on our very special guests joining
us from Western Canada is Darren and we've been emailing back and forth for quite
a bit, but we finally caught up. We have a lot in common
and I'm really looking forward to the conversation. Darren, how are you doing
today? I'm doing awesome. Good morning, George, good morning. It's
great to meet you. So before we kick off the conversation, why don't
you introduce yourself to the audience. Yeah, can we start with prayer?
Please? That would be great, father, and we just we give this
time to you. Pray that you've got our words in our conversation, needed
where you wanted to go, and I just prey would be a blessing to
everyone who hears Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Yeah, boy. There's
parts of my life that I usually don't talk about, but I really felt
I needed to share a bit of it today. Grew up in a home
where my dad had major schizophrenia and he had nervous breakdowns pretty well all growing
up, every two years around Christmas. But when I was a kid,
I had some pretty spiritual experiences like four years old, five years old,
six years old, they kind of of dreams and dark shapes come in the
room, and some of these experiences they were I was awake for sure,
and sometimes they'd get into bed with me. I'd have dreams where I'd come
home and they pull me down into the basement, things like that. Something
as I got older, sometimes i'd go around in my dream. I'd go
around the back of the house and look in the window because I didn't want
to go in the house because I didn't want to get pulled down again.
So things like that happened a lot. There was, you know, dreams
where I couldn't couldn't talk, get carried away in the like up above the
ground, kind of floating, and then I couldn't scream, and I see
it hurt other people. I have similar experiences like that. But the one
thing I want to point when I was about sixteen and I got baptized on
the Only Spirit. When I was twelve and still learning to speak in tongues
was kind of normal. I remember sixteen, I had this the last dream
I had of those, and I went into basement and I was a little
fed up, and they weren't just dark shapes anymore, like lingering behind me
or you know, tall and thin. They were kind of floating, and
they didn't have arms, they didn't have legs, and they had this kind
of purple glowing center in the middle of them. And I stood in the
basement and I pointed my finger at them all, and I started speaking in
tongues and going in a circle and just really angry. And that was the
last dream I had of those. So I don't know if that that holds
anybody. That kind of formed a lot of you know, being a Christian.
When I was about six years old, baptizing Holy Spirit and those guy
formed a foundation of in my dad. Adding schizophrenia, I found a lot
of refuge in the church. So I would find people to to take me
to church, go to youth group and things like that. So that was
that became my family growing up, finding people to spend time with, go
to the church. That's like just a love for God has been there since
since day one. I went to Bible School and what was about nineteen she
where do I go from there? One question, would you say what you
experienced was partially like a sleep paralysis type of deal I never had with sleep
paralysis, like really can't move. I do remember times when they would come
in the room and I just start praying and like Jesus helped me. Jesus
helped me. And it was weird because I thought Jesus would just get rid
of them right away, but that didn't happen. But I was able to
go to sleep, so that was great. Sure, I think I was
more scared than anything, but it wasn't like I couldn't move. And I
do know what you're talking about, and I don't know why. And maybe
it's because I was a Christian, Maybe because I did have, you know,
a renewed spirit that I wasn't able to fall into sleep for alliss I'm
not sure exactly, but yeah, no, interesting, that's uh. And
obviously a church was, like you said, it was a refuge for you
when you were going through a difficult time. Well my whole life. I
remember twelve years old calling guys up and they'd come, give me ride,
give me ride home. We sitting and drive way and talk for hours and
stuff like that. But growing up, my dad was usually in bed,
you know. I'd come home and eusually sleeping down and recovering from his last
episode. Yeah, so my family wasn't really at home, although you know,
home was it was fed well, was dressed well, but home wasn't
really where I felt safe, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely,
yeah, uh she I got married in ninety nine. I was teaching by
that time, and nine to eleven was a big deal for sure and for
sure, and so the thing I wanted to bring up there is I remember
watching this. I remember the thought that hit my head was like, boy,
those terrors sure got lucky, right. I was like wow, because
like, how could they have just hit those columns just right? It just
came down just right, and it's like, man, they got lucky that
day. That kind of just was there, right, It was in the
back of my head. Sure, And I was always kind of anti corporation,
anti business. You know, these big corporations, they don't they don't
really care about it, not much. But that was about it. Two
thousand and two, my wife got cancer. I was a big deal.
And she was pregnant at the time, so that even made it a bigger
deal because they had to hold off until the baby, our daughter was viable.
I would say that that was a lynchpin are really that helped me go
down the road. I wouldn't be where I am today without that. So
and my wife says the same thing. But the biggest thing we learned out
of that was just food. Like the more research that we did, the
more we seem to realize that the most likely cause is just food that we'd
probably been eating, or maybe bathroom products that we'd been using. How does
a thirty year old, viable, healthy woman get cancer, Like, where
does that come from? And it was limpomous, so it's in her immune
system. Right. So when I when I talked to people about my awakening,
you know, I've been saved a whole life. And one of my
big all the time a creation evolution. I just was passionate about that.
I teach kids in school about, Yeah, the woodpecker with the tongue that
wraps around its head, and trees that go through many fossilized layers, and
I love Kn't Hogan, the dinosaur guy and Doctor Dino. So those things
I was just passionate about. So that was always rested in my crowd too.
But my awakening started two thousand and four. I watched a movie called
Amazing Grace And if anybody hasn't seen that movie, I just just love it.
It's the biography of William Wolverforce and put an amazing, amazing He basically
poured himself out to fight slavery in Britain. And this is before the Civil
War Greater around the same time, but before the Civil War in the States.
And at the end of the movie, I was just like wow.
And then I started going through the extra credits, the extra resources, and
they had links in there about the slavery still going on in the world.
I'm like, no, slavery camp you God thought we fought all that stuff.
I thought because Lake in high school, we were always taught that we
brought freedom and democracy everywhere, and all these wars are about helping the world
and fighting communism, and we just have the greatest civilization ever and we're just
spreading it. It's like, slavery cam't be going on. What are you
talking about? So I started doing its research, like, well, we
macharl, there's slavery going on in the world. I read a little story
about ick Ball, this little Pakistani boy twelve years old who made soccer balls
in Pakistan, and then I learned about these kids who are chained to weaving
looms to make rugs for us, and just started like, oh, my
goodness, he's brick making kids. Ever read about the kids that make bricks
and Indian Pakistan and over there and just slave boy all day to make bricks
for other people in other countries, And I'm like, this is is is
crazy? And then the big book was The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.
Have you ever read that, George, what was it called again, Shock?
The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Kahin, No, I have not. I'm
writing it down now as we speak. Though. Yeah, she's a Canadian
investigative journalist. She's totally on the climate bandwagon now, so I'm not I'm
not a huge fan anymore. But The Shock Doctrine is an amazing book.
And she's got a whole chapter in there on on what shock is, and
she gets an mk ultra in the CIA and all that stuff. And then
the premise of the book is this is that anywhere free market capitalism has gone
in the world, it's always been preceded by a shock. And sometimes those
shocks are manufactured and sometimes they're natural. She goes into the asunami that happened
in near India there and Thailand. Well that sosnami wiped out prime oceanland right
like Maui right now. And uh, but so they took the fisherman and
they took their boats, and they gave them the land like a mile inland,
and then they took over a lot of the shoreline and put up major
resorts. That happened like all over the place. She talks about Iraq,
how they bombed and bombed Iraq like crazy, and you know a lot about
this. Yeah, we brought all freedom by dropping bombs on them. Yeah.
Well, then they wanted to rebuild the country, George. And there's
all these people, all these poor people in Iraq, and there's all these
companies over there, and they actually make cement. But the West didn't use
the people of Iraq, and they didn't use the companies of Iraq to rebuild
Iraq for ten times the cost. They brought in cement across the ocean,
and they brought into workers and companies from across the ocean to rebuild Iraq.
And the name when he gets into that, it was like this is just
insane. And she gets in a whole bunch of she gets into a lande
and the overthrow of different countries. What's the Chicago School of Economics is a
big topic in the book. It very much matches up with John Perkins The
Economic Hitman. Basically, the West is they sell loans to countries all over
the world. They want to build infrastructure, they want to make their countries
better. So the World Bank and the IMF go in and say, yeah,
we'll help you out. We'll give you We'll give you all this money
and just sign this contract right here. And for some reason you can't make
these exorbitant payments. They wouldn't use that word. Then all the resources of
your country are collateral. And that was what John Perkins did in The Economic
Hickman. He talks about that, And there's a quote in a book,
Oh No, I think the only kind is a There's a man named Davis
and Buddy and he worked for the IMF for twelve years and I'll never forget
the quote. He resigned and he wrote a letter to them and he says,
the names I have, the things I've done, and the name of
the IMF I'm rephrasing. I can't remember exactly, but they haunt me.
He says, the blood is dripping from my hands. In fact, it's
caked on and dried, and I can't get it off. All the things
I've done in the name of the IMF. Yeah, and you can actually
find that video on YouTube. He did an interview for like an hour ninety
minutes. But he's speaking in another language. So I always wanted to play
that as part of we do classic audio on the other podcast, but it's
I don't remember which language he speaks, but it's subtitled. And yeah,
he really he gets it. He understands that, you know, the bankers.
You know, you can have whatever, you can talk about your Prince
Charles, you can talk about your your bidens, but the people who run
this world are the bankers. Definitely. Definitely, so right around the same
And I've always been involved in the church and as a youth group leader,
but right around the same time, my wife and I started feeling a little
bit uncomfortable, like what are we doing here? What is this? What
are we doing every Sunday? And I think part of that is we had
little kids. We had a four and a three year old I think at
a time maybe three and a two year old, and so go to church
is hard. Just getting there is is good, and then getting home is
the day is hard, just to get the church and get home, and
it's a lot of work. It's like what are we doing here? It's
like, what is this sting church? And the word that we started to
churn in our heart was repentance, just a really need for repentance. And
I'm reading this book and I'm realizing that this life that we have here in
the West. I had always been told it's it's the residue of us living
for God and all this beautiful Christian heritage that we have, and there's some
truth to that, but I began to realize that most of this comfort that
we have in the Western world has been built on the blacks and the bodies
and the blood of the third world nation, and we've basically stolen their resources
from Him so that we can have materialism. And if you've never seen the
Story of Stuff, that's a great little video and I've played that kids in
class. She's got amazing quotes in there, but she says after the Second
World War, there's a quote by a government official where he says, we
need to make materialism the new religion where we consume stuff in ever and ever
greater quantities, and that became government policy back in the fifties. And so
you can see that the Western world, that's exactly what we've done. But
we haven't done it on our own. We've we've stolen it flat out.
Yeah, and the church isn't you're not saying anything. We don't really talk
about it that much. And my church was it was a non denominational,
charismatic church, and so we weren't directly involved, but we are very much
linked to Have you heard of the NR or the Reformation? Yea, so
I started, you know, learning a little bit that. But this group
is all about prophets and prophecy. Well, these prophecies are these prophets are
supposed to be hearing from God. God's supposed to be speaking to them,
but you never hear you read prophets in the Bible. And that's not what
they're talking about. They're talking about our sins. They're talking about the things
that we're doing wrong, the things we need to repent of. And if
you repent, then God will bless us. And if you don't repent,
then then not have to punish you there's a great verse. It says,
God says, I love judgment. I love judgment, And what is judgment?
It just it means I'm going to bring you back onto this narrow path
again. Let's come back. We're going to go back to the ancient ways,
the true ways, the simple ways. That's what God says. And
so I'm learning these things and I'm like, uh, And then I got
into I found Loose Change and Alex Jones and nine to eleven, and you
know, the pieces started to fall into place about what is this thing that
we're living in here? What are these things that has happened. You can't
have girder has cut at forty five degree angles, and you can't have molten
metal that is hot for months on end, and you can't have buildings fall
at free fall speed, and on and on and on. The gold stolen
from from New York the day before it happened was in two point three trillion
dollars from the Pentagon. Just going to mention that two point three and there's
a beautiful number that two point three seems to come up a lot. Uh.
Yeah, So they're just lying to us, they're lying to us,
lying to us. So Basically at that point, my wife and I stopped
watch and TV. You know, Survivor, it was a big show back
then, and we just started watching documentaries, documentaries every single night. What
documentary were gonna watch tonight? And that was just an amazing time, just
learning so much food inc the Corporation. There's a great video ah, etcetera,
etcetera. And one guest on Alex Jones and time with Steve Quaile.
It's like, oh, who's this guy named Steve Quayle started listening to Steve
Quaile. Holy Moly, there's some rabbit holes. And so Steve Quail had
a guest one time named Tom Horn and they did this six hour, I
think trilogy podcast on Genesis six, and I in combam just the whole the
Bible just opened up in a way that never ended. Steve Quail says,
Genesis six is the Rosetta stone of the whole Bible. And then we just
just dove in. I just I don't know where I go from there,
but uh, learning about the ephelum and giants, and I'd always been a
lover of ancient history sure, and things just really made so much more sense.
And you know, a big one off of that is as it was
in the days of Noah social be when the sun of Man returns, and
so now we're sensing okay, things are spiraling, things are going in this
direction. Oh. The Book of Joshua, they practiced the mixing of species
in order to provoke the Lord. Oh, we're doing this again. We're
practicing the mixing of species. Not only are we doing or passionate about it.
Oh, we want to mix the animal DNA with human DNA. Yep,
okay, I'll pause there. Yeah, that's a perfect place to pause
and hold on. Let me write that down, because that's something I want
to talk to you. I have like nine questions to ask you just on
that you talked about. You've touched on a lot of important things, and
I've changed my life as well. I don't remember which document entry it was,
but the products that you use in the shower, the shampoos. But
the most alarming was, uh, you know, I never you know,
I was. I wasn't an athlete growing up, but I played sports year
round through school. In the military, I played on a few soccer teams
until nine to eleven, and then we didn't really have a lot of time
for fun stuff. But you know, if you look at the ingredients on
your deodor and one of the most absorbent spots on your body, I think
the two. And I might be wrong, folks, make sure you check
me, but just don't use Google. But it's the armpits and I think
the bottom of your feet are like the most absorbent parts of your bodies,
like sponges. And you put yeah, and you put aluminum in you know,
under your armpit, and then you know, you look at the it's
just man, is that something that? And then you can I can go
on about shampoos, about suntanan suntan lo. Yeah, you don't get you
don't get skin cancer from the sun. You get it from this this untan
lotion exactly. So yeah, we changed wholesale. We use a lot of
Tom's products. You know, we were into the you know, the body
washes, like the old spice or whatever was the but for the last however
many years, it's been you know, we use the I can't think of
the name of the soap, but it's just straight soap, no fragrances,
no additives. Uh no, it's I want to say it's from England,
but it's it's it's just very pure. And what was the next thing?
So you've gone through a lot in your life, specifically when you were younger,
and I think one of the common themes that I've noticed through interviews and
then my own reflection on life is the people who go through a lot of
trials and tribulations are going or currently are the stronger ones. And when things
really go sideways, I think those are the people who are more likely to
succeed when they really put their foot on our throats, if you know what
I mean, Oh, totally totally young. In order to build up our
muscles, I have to be broken down exactly. And we will talk about
your homesteading and everything else here in a little bit. The next remark,
I guess is you'd mentioned the slave trade around the world. I did a
podcast on this some time last year. Now, obviously, you know,
you hear, you can read reports, and there's numbers out there. You
don't really know whether it's high or low, but I've seen numbers. I
think the most average number is fourteen to fifteen million slaves in the world,
and most of them are in Asia, particularly I would say Eastern Asia,
and it's there's just millions and millions, And what you said is like the
thing. And I've told my wife this, I've told my children the things
we enjoy just looking around my office right now, that the computer monitors my
mix or my TV, my musical insustry's. Most of them are made in
like China or the Philippines, places where the people making these things are getting
like a buck or two bucks an hour. Yea, what do you say,
George. I talked to a friend about this and he said, oh,
but their lives are better than they would have been. No, yeah,
no, I've why don't we help them build their lives? Yeah,
these people were like six sometimes seven, twelve hour days a week, and
they don't get over time, they don't get dental h and they live where
they work. That's what a lot of people don't understand. They will work,
they'll just clock out. They'll go to their little get their soup kitchen,
get you get their slop in their soup, and hang out. Yeah,
and go right back back at it the next day. Now, this
one I was I did contracts in Iraq And I think you said her name
was Naomi Klein. Yeah, she's right for the most part. Now,
here's what they did. They would be it out the small contracts to the
local people. So I did contracts for concrete pads and and like latrines.
They would set the latrines and come once a day and clean them out,
you know, the porta potties. They would get the small contracts. But
anything with you know, food services, laundry, building, force protection,
with the tea walls, anything like that always went to either Kellogg, Brown
and Kabar or some other big company. They would they would throw the minnows
to the local people make them feel good about themselves. But anything over well,
I don't want to put a number on it, because I'm sure there's
a few locals that that did okay. But for the most part they got
they got crackers, right, They just they just got the very small contracts
and man some of the contracts and the fact that eight billion dollars was missing
from l. Paul Bremer, who was just flown in palettes of cash for
him to use it his discretion, and then when they audited everything, he
was short eight billion dollars, and nobody blinked an eye, Just like nobody
blinked an eye about the two point three trillion dollars and it's infuriating and I'm
so thankful. I do a nine to eleven special every year on the Fact
Hunter, and I actually had a gentleman reach out to me. His dad
was a firefighter and he died on the forty fourth floor trying to get up
there and save people. He knows that nine to eleven was rus and he's
going to speak out about it. So it's it's encouraging to see people,
like for folks in the truth community, to see actual people who were affected
directly by nine to eleven, to see those people come out and speak and
say, yeah, we know, yes, my dad was a hero.
Obviously his dad was a great hero, but also to the effect that you
know, I know that my father should be alive today and it's all because
of X, Y and Z. I think that's very strong and that speaks
to the fact, like what we're doing right now, we're having a conversation,
it's going out to a lot of people and we're making a difference.
I think that's how we've kind of win win over more people and eventually,
if there's a tide to turn, this is one way to do it.
The other thing, you were talking about it. It's very interesting. I
saw a video three or four months ago we talk about once and needs.
They gave this paper to a guy who was eighty years old, a guy
who was forty five, and a guy who was eighteen, and they said
put a W for want and an end for need, and they had things
like cell phone, food, water, And it's interesting the eighteen year old
when it got to cell phone, it was an end, it was a
need. And I think that's a big part of our problem today. Is
a lot of people and I'm not limiting it to an age group here,
but there's a lot of people out there who don't truly understand the difference between
once and need. It's what are your thoughts on that? No, they
don't, And I think it's the end of empire. I'm thinking where the
materialism, the hedonism, the pleasure all kind of gets wrapped up in it,
and we don't truly understand what it means to have a harder life but
a more content life. We become weak, we become a spineless. It's
it's all part of the and I don't know if it can be fought because
it's a cycle of history. Yeah, there's a great paper out there about
the end of Empires and I was written by a military man, just excellent.
He has seven empires in there, and he goes through the common denominators
of every empire, ends up with materialism and hedonism and pleasure, and that
the foreigners coming in and the evaluation of the dollar. So I think the
best that we as a remnant can do is just get ready for those that
can be take Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And man, I
had something I was going to say, and and then I was just listening
to and it dropped out of my head. But going back to the food,
everybody heard of the roth Child. So everybody's heard of the Rockefellers and
the DuPonts. Yeah, I would encourage everybody to research this family, the
Cargos, C. A, R, G. I, L. L.
And they, I want to say, they own about seventy percent of
the food that gets distributed, certainly here in the country, and they have
a large handle on it worldwide. And if you look at all the lawsuits,
because we talk about often that we know about Black Rock, we know
about Vanguard owning all the corporations, but it's the same story with our food,
and that goes back to what you were saying is being cognizant of what
you eat, because we are being poisoned in our brains. Right, Oh,
you got a dandylion, you better go get some round up and spray
round up on something that can heal. And then we're eating processed food,
which is causing a lot of the issues that we're encountering later in life.
Well totally. That leads right in to the next part of my stories.
About two thousand and eight, we said, you know what, we need
to get control of our food or we're gonna die. You know, I
was learning, like Mike Adams had a video on they spray plastic on foods
in order to make a last longer, this thin sheet of plastic, and
it's been approved, Like that's insane, Like who do things up stuff like
that except psychopaths. But then they saw it to us, Oh yeah,
it's just fine. So we endeavored to get out of the city and really
living in Cologna at the time, So we looked around and we that we
moved up to the West Coutnees and got an acreage and we had a little
kids and we were able to raise our kids in homeschool on an acreage.
We got a cow. I milk the cow for several years, just amazing.
Raw milk is just so good. We had a jersey so my wife
and I love coffee, and there's nothing better than jersey cream and a coffee
in the morning. I tell you, that's just a bit of heaven.
I remember that first meal we sat down too, and her parents moved onto
property with us, so we had a three generation farm and which was just
beautiful, and they helped with the homeschooling, especially my mother in law.
And I remember the first meal we sat down too, and there was no
meat, no meat at the meal. It was all kind of like fall
vegetables. And I've never eaten a meal that felt so rich and dense and
incredibly nutritious. And my body was just like, oh, it was just
like where did this come from? Type thing? It was just beautiful.
So this is what food is supposed to be. And part of that conversation
in my heart at the time too, was like they robbed this from us.
Two. You know, there's stuff in the grocery store is just another
facade of what real food is, and we've let this be taken away from
us as well, and you know, so live in a life where we
can take that back, like real nutrition, real health coming right out of
the ground. I remember one of the documentaries we'd watched before is that I
learned about in New York parents were buying dirt bacteria for their kids because their
kids were getting sick when they came in contact with dirt. So they would
go, you know, and get this special thing down at the door so
their kids would become accustomized to dirt bacteria. Just like, what, what
what is this culture we're living in? This is It was just one of
the things I like, this is loupy. This is loupy. We got
it. You know, Let's get our kids in the country and do something
about that. So those are those are really good years, really good years
on the farm. That's awesome. And while we're kind of still on health
and things like that, you had mentioned how Genesis six kind of changed the
way you looked at things and how you read the Bible, and it kind
of opened your mind to other things, maybe who might be involved in a
lot of the evils And then you're also seeing those things today, you know,
whether it be the big trans push which also is a big part of
their push for lowering the population. Right. They're big on that. You
hear Bill Gates talk about that all the time. The Georgia Guidestones. The
very first rule on there was keeping the world population at five hundred million in
perpetual balance with nature, right, whereas God says, go forth and multiply.
So I want to real quick, and I don't know how deep dived
you've gone into this, but vaccines I pulled out the CDC dot gov the
ingredients. Now they say these are the excipient ingredients. Which are they just
they serve as the vehicle, right? But you look what's in vaccines and
the common ingredient for maldehyde aluminum. And I will folks listening, I'll put
this in the show description and it is from the CDC. This isn't from
Natural News or anything like that. This is from the CDC saying what is
going inside your bodies? Have have you looked into vaccine and what are your
what are your thoughts on them? I've looked. I couldn't like teach somebody
about it, but what I what I know about it is it they're vial
and they're just pure poison and we did not vaccinate our kids, so I
think our first daughter we did. But it was right about that time that
we were waking up and we stopped at pretty quick. So yeah, I
mean, and this is way before COVID, right, so right, right,
you know when COVID hit, we were we were out from day one
on that one, which is actually a whole nother subject. But when do
you when you look at how they do vaccines, there's a couple things about
it. Is a lot of the technology is based on how stakes inject venom
into their to their prey. And another technology, when you get into how
it works, it's like a rape of the cell. You're basically first forcing
something into the cell that in God's view, the way God designed to cell
wasn't designed to do. So there's a raping and an injecting that is a
violation of the way the God's designed us. And when you look at that
technology, that's that's the philosophy behind how how the vaccine works. When you
look at it that way, it's like, well, that's evil. It's
not that just bypasses everything God's design. Why would I do that? Agreed?
And the flu shot from twenty twenty one included a piece of a sell
proteins from a kidney from a dog. It's called Maiden Darby cane on kidney
and don't believe me, look it up for yourself. It's literally from a
dog and we're putting this in our body. It's just unbelievable. An animal
semen, yep. And the worst one, the worst one is aborted fetal
sauce. So now we're involved in cannibalism. So yeah, no, I
mean, it's just it's just viole right from from the beginning it is.
It's certainly not going to do it. No, not going to do it.
If we build anything, you know, the end does not justify the
means. If we whatever we're building, if we're sinning in the process of
building something, then that foundation of whatever we're building is built on sin,
and it be it permeates the whole, the whole structure. Well said,
let's continue in your journey. Yeah, uh, where do I go from
their all? I I mean, part of what some of the things that
are dear to my heart is we were attending a local church here at the
time, and some things are starting to alarm me there because they were a
lot of people there that were I would call them Betheltes, people who go
down to bethelert places like that and bring back those teachings and that doctrine.
So I spent a lot of time researching the foundations of an aar and the
prophetic movement and not really not really impressed with with what I was seeing.
Yeah, I don't want to get too deep into that right away, But
it's soul. It's it's based on soul. It's and when it's sorcery,
it's you were declaring something, You're exerting your will through something like a lot
of the teaching is if your will is strong enough, if you want something
strong enough, if you pray for it hard enough, you can make it
happen. Declaring things from the pulpit or you know in prayer that you're almost
like forcing God to do so if you do something in the right way,
then God's going to come through for you. And Bill Johnson, there's a
pastor at Bethel, has said something he doesn't believe that God would allow anybody
to be sick, like God hates well, God does hate sickness. But
if you believe that nobody can be sick, and if you're sick that you've
just missed it, or your faith isn't strong enough, if you've sinned somehow
you're missing, you're missing how God wants to raise us up. God's goal
isn't for us to have a life full of peace and joy and happiness.
That is not not what we're doing here. God's goal is to build the
image of his son into us, to build the character of God into us,
and he will do whatever it takes to make that happen. One of
my favorite writers is Oswell Chambers, and the title of his biography is Abandonment
to God. You know that we would be utterly abandoned to him, and
we'd be like Shadrack Mishak and the Bendigo. So we will not bow down
to your idols. And we know that our God is able to save us.
But if he doesn't, we still won't bow down because you know,
and there's another thing David said, even though he slay me, yet will
I praise him. That's that's the attitude I want. That's that's where I
want to want to go with it. Okay, So I think the flatter
attorney would probably be probably next. I got a good friend and he was
just kept talking about flatterth flatter, and I'm down a lot of rabbit holes.
I mean, I think once you get down to neph alone, you
get to Fritz Springmyer and Bloodlines of the Illuminity Rust Dizdar. I have several
books by Rust Dizdar, and he is all about what was God bless see
him in Heaven No, the Black Awakening. He's good. That's where Rust
Beliezer's millions of people who have been satanically and sexually sexually traumatized, they've been
basically it's like an MK ultra thing. But you haven't if you you were
Ruststor's work at all. Vaguely, I'm very aware obviously them k Ultra.
I'm very familiar with mister Springmyer's work. I've done research and I have all
his books, but not so much. Yeah, rest would be like a
satanic ritual abuse that angle dis dar d I z d a R. Thank
you Dar. He wrote a book, a book called The Black Awakening,
which is probably his most well known one. When people are traumatized and they
go through a trauma and you get into MK ultra and what what the dark
side the elite do at different levels is they deliberately traumatize people. It would
get into like an adrena chrome type situation. But instead of doing an adrena
chrome angle, you know, extracting that I guess they would extract soul.
You could look at would would be a great way to look at it.
So traumatize the individual and when someone has that much fear of that trauma,
then they regress it that they can split apart. And so what they do
is they directly split the soul. And they've developed ways of this gets into
army stuff too, like there's people have come out and testify it that the
different divisions of the army will do this on purpose. It would get into
like a Manchurian candidate type thing. So there's a direct splitting of the soul.
And then that soul split, you can in the ceremony you can then
attach a demon to it. And the women Aody do this. They do
this with their their teenagers when they come of age. They go through a
special ceremony and Russ has talked about it about this. They'll go to a
special ceremony and they will somehow they will attach a demon to that split personality.
And you could do this many, many, many times. I think
the soul is I don't. I don't think we fully understand what our soul
is. But you know, you look at Jesus right, we are a
legion. There's thousands of demons and how do you get thousands of demons inside
of body? And there's so there's something to who we are and what we
are that I don't think we fully comprehend yet. Which is a really important
question I want to talk about today is why do the demons care about us,
the fallen angels? Why are we so important to them? Why don't
they do they just want to I just want to hurt God if they just
want to cause gods. But I just want to drag as many souls down
to Hell as I can. I don't think that's the full picture. I
think there's something more that they want. There's a there's an end goal in
the game. Yeah, So rust is Star Rusty Star. That book is
eighteen hundred dollars on I guess it's not produced anymore. Uh, it's really
hard to find on Amazon it's eighteen hundred dollars and on other like ISBNs dot
net where they can usually find them. There there's no new, no use,
no Reynolds. But yeah, how put the link to check it out?
If you have eighteen hundred dollars dot com, let's say again try Lulu
dot com is self publishing, so he did a lot of his books through
Lulu. Oh, okay, gotcha, I'll check it out. That's very
all right, So I think I've been out a lot. Sorry to go
aheaders. No, no, I just said that's very interesting. I need
to find at least the PDF or fucking get it affordable. I'll definitely get
it. Go ahead. I'm sorry, didn't mean interrupt. Yeah, Russ's
a great teaching like, if anybody's interested in spiritual warfare, I highly recommend
him. So I got this friend and he's not a Christian, and he's
like, you're at this flat, dude. I'm like, I don't know,
man, and both this time I Canary Carry Radio. One of my
favorite podcasts, Gone's, Gone's and Basil There's so much fun. So I
listened to them a lot, and Gone said did a great documentary. Ah,
what was it called? Again? It was about the nim and the
fallen Angels. Great, great work. So he had this guest around twenty
fifteen. And sky's talking about flat and ironically, I just listened to your
interview it was Mark Sargeant, and uh so I'm listening to this podcast.
I'm like. And I woke up the next morning and I went out my
door before I started working, I looked up at the sky and I remember
screaming, and I was I was looking into a hollow earth theory at the
time too. It was justin Fallow and watched his documentary and I thought,
this flatter thing is a it's got to be a CIA psyop. They're trying
to distract this from all over. And I looked up, I looked up
at the sky and I just screamed in my heart. I don't live in
a terrarium. Just it just felt wrong, It just felt weird, and
I just I talked to my wife about it, and she's like, we're
not talking about this. She was so opposed to it. It was just
like there's just no way. And so I dropped it put in the shelf.
But my friends still needling me still every time we talk. And I
said, what difference does it make whether we live on a ball or on
a flat plane. We still have to deal with Jesus we have this man
that came died Rose again and we have to know what who he is and
what he said. That's that's the game. And he's like, no,
you know, it's pretty important. She says, come out on a test
for me. All right, sure, let's let's do this. So finally
we did it, and we went out on our link up here and we
were able to do a ten mile test and I sent the link to the
video to you to that today. And I had that camera six inches off
the water, and he had his laser light a foot off the water at
the other end, and dot laser light was pinpoint right in the camera,
just right there. And I'm like, m And I'm a math teacher.
It's one of my main subjects. And I tried to do the math once
and I gave up. And then I did the test and I'm like,
okay, we're doing this. And I took about an hour and I finally
got my bropped my head around and I did the math and I'm like that
checks out. There's no way, And anybody out there who's talking about refraction,
give me a break, Like, I don't even know how you can
call yourself a lever of science or a lever of math. Refraction doesn't even
remotely compensate for sixty six feet a drop at ten miles. It doesn't even
come. You wouldn't even make a foot. Come on, it's not going
to do it, no matter what conditions you're talking about. So I'm like,
okay, that's that's definitely a problem. And so then I dived into
flat Earth and I've probably been researching nothing else for the last few years because
I got Hendrew's book, and I read Gleason's book, and I David wardlaw
Scott on. The biggest one is Dean Odle. I love that guy.
I mean, he's he's got a book in the prophetic movement too, so
that I love that. But his book, As Clay Pressed to a Seal,
that's the best book I've read on the subject because he brings it all
back to Jesus again. It's that's the center of it all. He's the
center of it all. Denotos video presentation on flat Earth is just phenomenal and
I just loved it. And so I know you always ask, what are
the lynchpins? Well, we can see too far. That's just that's game
over right there. We can see too far, submarines, sonar radio waves,
line of sight weapons from the military at one hundred miles. That just
throws everything out the window. For Probably the other big one for me was
learning about pressurized atmosphere. There is just nowhere you can have two gases of
different pressures next to each other and not dissipitate in equal wise. There's just
no scientific, scientific evidence for that anywhere. And that's the thing I loved
about flat Earth. I'm learning more science than I've ever learned before in my
life. The knee on gas is all shining at different colors when they get
eliminated by the sun. That's just a beautiful one for me. The Aurora
Borealis one of the most significant experiences of my life where God really made himself
real to me. Just I felt like he really dived into my heart.
Was a knight. The Aurora Borealis is out, and I just the only
thing I could say in my heart again again, I never knew, I
never knew, I never knew, And what I meant was his glory,
His majesty is awesomeness. And I never knew anything about flat Earth at the
time. But the Aurora was just dancing over my head that night, and
now I realize that now the aurora is in Revelation four talks about the green
rainbow around the throne of God. You know. Wow, you know it's
that magnetic mountain that lives at the center of our creation. That's right,
that reaches up to Polaris. That's what the aurora is. So when you
see the orlen hits everybody that's just dancing around the throne of God. It's
his glory. So that that's a significant connection for me because I didn't know
before then when I had that experience, and now that I do, I
can make that connection and that's a beautiful one for me. Yeah, it
is. And it's funny because we talk about Maker all the time that the
people who are not on Team God, who control the world, the magnetic
north Pole, the mountain itself is called Rupus Nigra, which is also known
as black Rock, and who controls up most of the world right now exactly.
And Mercator it said it's thirty three French miles and side. So there's
your thirty three two So yeah, amazing, yep. And you said that
was Revelation four. That's right. The rainbow, Yeah, there's another person
I think in Isaiah or Jeremiah, that might be Daniel. Where it brings
up the light around the throne. Yeah, Revelation four three. Yeah,
that does really uh. And that he sat was to look upon like a
jasper and a sardine stone, and there was a rainbow around about the throne
in sight like untwo emerald. That's amazing. Yeah. And you just had
to be standing there and all watching this amazing. I was lying flat on
my on my back and on my face. I couldn't stand up. Yeah.
You know, being in the in the desert in Iraq is not really
pleasurable. But what I will tell you is because there's no light pollution and
a lot of those places you could see the stars like nowhere else. Amazing.
Some of the nights we had there when we weren't getting more dirted rocket.
One thing I've noticed out here is just the naked eye. Some stars
are just incredible and they flash red, white and blue and sometimes you can
see it green in there, just like that's pretty awesome. That is phenomenal.
Now I'm assuming and maybe I'm leaping too far here, but your wife
on board. Now, when I did the laser test and I came home
when I was doing the research and I started bringing it up with her.
I have no explanation for it, but she was like, yeah, that
makes sense. Every single rabbit hole we've gone down, and we've gone down
together, and there's really been none that we've really disagreed on it. It's
just always walking down together. And it's been a really cool thing. Yeah.
When when I got on board, she was right on board with me,
and it's really awesome. That's amazing. That's great to hear. And
have you had any luck sharing this with family and friends in the community.
No, welcome to the club. I was really excited when, like when
I was learning it and I had a staff conference and I'm with my my
vice principal and his wife who's a nurse, and I started sharing about James
Cook and uh, sixty five thousand miles around not fine, and you know,
the perimeter of Antarctica and seeing too far and etcetera, etcetera, and
a lot of nods and stairs, and it just didn't get very far.
That was an early experience I got. We have a home church and got
some good buddies in there. One guy listens and he's he's I think he's
going to come around. My other friend, he's just a big skeptic.
He's still he still thinks nine to eleven happened through terrorists. So it's but
he's such a good brother. He loves a word of God so much.
I just wish he'd he wasn't such a skeptic sometimes about conspiracy stuff. But
his wife is a flat earth and she's a yeah, and she's a student
of the word, like she's always in the this Hebrew word means that,
and this Greek word means that, and she knows that rakiya means and she
knows what like the Amos four versus about the vaulted the vaulted dome, but
they just completely disagree on it. So but as far as convincing anybody myself,
No, I found people you don't have conversations and I'll look at them
and go flat around and they're like flat like, and then we go down
the conversation. But not anybody. I have one friend in Kelowna, and
I brought it up to him one time and and we didn't talk that much
after that. You know, we're kind of reconnecting again. But the conversations
that happened periodically, they kind of stopped for a bit, so I got
gotta do a big, flat out no. Yeah, it is difficult,
and that is a million dollar question. I get emails and people saying,
hey, can you call me. I just there's somebody very important in my
life that I'm trying to wake up and I just can't do it. And
that is you know, I've learned less is more. The two big things
that I tell people is less is more and they just have to be ready
to accept the information. Yeah, and I learned that. That was one
of the first things I learned about flat earth because after I woke up in
my little two weeks of I guess like a locust losing its shell, right,
Askato losing its shell? And then I was a new guy and realized
everything. I was excited, like you, and I wanted to share it
with people, and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, mister crazy
pants, what are you talking about? Yeah, and it reality punches you
in the face really quick. Yeah. I want to learn to I want
to get better at the Socratic method. I'm really trying to incorporate that into
a lot of what I do. Just ask questions. Yep, yes,
try to get You had a guest recently to talk about just kind of setting
something in there and letting them go you on it and turn on it,
And I really think that's the best way. One of my favorite questions is
what scientific proof do you have that you're at the spinning? You know,
can you do you have any evidence for that other than NASSA? Right?
Yeah, yeah, And I thought more people would That's a great one.
Yeah, it is. It is. I thought more people would come around
after the COVID thing, because you know that little rumor story the other day
talking about that down here, Biden's talking about bringing back mask mandates, and
you know, I'm telling people they got to get the vaccine again. So
I've seen on you know, even social media that the normalist of normies of
people, I know, we're saying, I'm it's not going to do it.
But once again and again, it really speaks to the level and how
much effort they put into the propaganda into making it such a stigma. Is
I mean, just flat earth is I mean, if I don't know what
percent what what what percent of people just in North America or whatever, would
you say are hip to flat Earth? Is it one percent? Five percent
less than one percent? Oh, I don't know. I know Dave Weiss
and Mark are way more in the game on that than than I am.
And they say it keeps growing. I think they're right, it is growing.
They're not going to be They're not going to be able to hide it
forever. Our technology is outrun their lives, right. Indeed, I think
that I meant that Indian. Yes, I said that India video. But
your friends of mine this, I said it to the skeptics. By the
way, the skeptics haven't replied. But you know, my one friend,
she she just emailed back as you had. Wow. She was just hysterical
about it. That's ridiculous, and it is. It's completely ridiculous. I
don't know. Why don't they spend more money on CGI for I don't I
don't get that. I don't get that. I think part of it in
the Indias go ahead. I'm sorry. India's a pretty good computer India's a
pretty good computer country. I mean that's they got graphics, guys are Yeah,
I don't get that was cringe between the Atari twenty six hundred level video
and that. I don't know if it's their prime minister. What's sitting there
with a fake smile waving their flag? It was so cringe. They're laughing
at us. The friend that got me into flod Earth. He thinks they
do this on purpose, you know, just trying to make us wake up.
I don't know. He might be right, like daring us. Yeah,
like just how far? How far away can they get? With and
still the lemmings remain lemmings. He might have a point, for lack of
a better word, where do you find flat Earth in the realm of conspiracies?
Number one? Number two? Number three? Oh it's number one.
Yeah, I mean we're talking about we're talking about the creational world, the
end the greatest engineering task of of eternity. Well I shouldn't say eternity.
I don't know what God's got for us, but of this time and space.
This is the engineering marvel, this beautiful, glorious terrarium we live in.
I love what the guy wrote, Doctrine of the Flat Earth. Starting
to read that what's his name again? Okay? He mentions it beginning there
that every engineering feed needs a foundation's right, So what's the foundation the foundation
of this of this place? With it and Jesus is a cornerstone, and
that just to me, that's that's awesome. So what's the foundation of a
heliocentric, spinning, combobulated universe. What's what's the foundation of that thing?
Gravity? Is that your foundation? I don't know what else there would be
for So the greatest engineer of all time makes the foundation gravity. That doesn't
fit with this character. And here's the other one that I've mentioned to my
friends when I'm trying to convince them. It's seems to me a pretty imp
It's a fact that the biblical model is fat. The Israelites believe the earth
is flat with a dome. Every ancient civilization believed that that. I don't
know how you could say that that isn't the truth. Okay, so this
is the main viewpoint, and I think Yser even comes out kind of this
point a little bit. God allowed them to believe that way because they weren't
ready for the true nature of the universe. So the God of the universe
allowed them to believe a lie forever, and then when we were ready,
he kind of okay, well, this is really what the world's like.
Does that meet the character of God? Is he in the deception and falsity,
and we're just not mature enough before he actually lied, he allows them
to believe a lie that doesn't fit. No, that doesn't sound like him.
That's not the god I worship. I don't know, that's my point
on that one. Yeah. And like you were saying, all the ancient
civilizations, and I use ancient loosely because a lot of people think that we're
so much smarter now today. Well, we may be more industrialized and technologically
advanced, but the people we're more in touch with the world back in the
day. And you're talking about the Mayans, the Navajos, the Inca's,
Norse, Celtic, Chinese, Egyptians, Hebrews. They all knew that we
were on a flat plane with the firmament over top of us. Go study
ancient architecture and then tell me they were dumb, right, you know those
stones I can't pronounce a nameto, whatt coon or something. Yeah, And
then Marzili has been there, these stones six feet wide, fitting like a
glove with little handholders, handholds, it looks like in the side or something
like that. Come on, it's like unbelievable architecture. And then they fit
to the stars and are aligned, and the Great Pyramid of Egypt has never
moved. Yeah, just amazing, amazing stuff. And then you know,
Nephelim kind of fits in a thought. That's what I was just going to
ask you. I've heard a lot of people say that recently that the Nephelim
because the Egyptian story doesn't really make any sense, right, that that seems
fabricated, a mean, slaves, slaves building the pyramids. Oh well,
as far as that, I've heard a lot of people say recently they believe
the Nephelim were the ones who built the pyramids. I think so. I
think the Great Pyramids different. There's something about that. There's a book I
have here that the author believes a great pyramid was built by Seth and an
Enoch really down in that time. Yeah, the Great Pyramid has no hieroglyphics
on it. It has encoded within it all kinds of mathematics, which is
just amazing. It's still a line to true North. It seems like a
different type of pyramid and diverse that he uses. I don't I didn't do
researching this for the interview, but sure there's a god set a sentinel or
something at the edge of a certain area of land, and he uses that
to say that that is probably the Great Pyramid, but I don't know it's
it's it's possible. That's interesting. Yeah, I found I've been a little
uh something from Sacred text dot com here about the Miracle Stone and the Great
Pyramids Seth and Enoch. That's interesting. I'll have to look into that.
I got every time, I'll send it. I'll send you the look the
book later. Yeah, that would be great, Thank you so much.
Well so so I'd love to talk about songs chapter two, let's do it,
Kase, why the lie right? And another one one? Another thing
you like to ask is on before I forget. The reason I love your
podcast so much right now is uh because it's people given their testimonies and their
stories. And I just love hearing everybody's story and everybody's testimony and when God's
doing in their lives. Uh. To me, I just find that just
so much fun. There's something very energizing about that. And then there's at
verse rate they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and the word of
their testimony. So I think that's what's refreshing and I think that's what's going
to keep this going as long as God wants it to, because you're not
going to run it a story, s George, I know, trust me
him. I'm looking at my board the waiting list. There's a lot of
people who want to tell their story. And it's obviously touching a lot of
people the same way, like you said, because people want to come and
give their testimony, and it's it's just great that every episode is a little
different, and I've learned from every single episode. I've learned a little something
from everyone, so it's been great. Yeah, I mean, we can
just encourage each other. Been so encouraged. I wish I could go back
through all the episodes and just speak to everybody out there the things that they
did that encourage me. Psalms too, Why does it escape me right now?
Is it particular? Well? I call Psalms to the Oxyomatic chapter the
whole Bible. I think all of human history hinges on this chapter. It
starts with why do the heathen rage? And the people imagine a vain thing?
Yeah, exactly why do the heathen or why do the nations? I
like to amplified, why do the nations assemble with commotion, and why do
the people imagine an empty scheme? The kings of the earth take their places?
And who are these kings? I wonder? The rulers take counsel together
against the Lord and against his anointed one, saying, let us break their
bands asunder and cast their chords from us. So fat earth, what are
the chords? In order? The bands, operation, fish bowl, etcetera,
etcetera. Right there, all of human history, I think, I
think we go, who are they? The chief religion on the other side
is nastiss him, and even I think deeper than that is Kabbalah. And
from my study, I think Cabala goes right back to Kane. Kane was
the rebel right, and then the Mason's talk about two ball and a cane
and all the things that emerge out of that and what they're learning, and
I think Solomon probably put all of that together. But they are not.
They hate God. They hate him with every fiber of their being, and
they hate his son and everything about him. And that's why they mock him,
and that's why he's His name is a swear words. That's why when
he comes back in revelation and all the Earth will see him. Is that
the whole Earth points their weapons at him, and it's like here he is
now, and this is what Lucifer is doing. I believe he's building Babbel
two point er because Babbel two point one or one point oh didn't work very
well. So he's got a new plan, a new way. He's building
another tower because he wants to break out. He's not willing to God loves
judgment. He's not willing to have that narrow path that left and that right,
that good and that bad. He wants chaos. He wants to do
whatever the hell he wants, right, that's right. So yeah, nastissism.
In nacissism, the creator of the world is a demi urge, and
the demi urge is a stupid god. He's an insane god. He's a
bit of looped in the head and he doesn't really know what he's doing.
And outside of him, beyond him, there's these better gods and these more
glorious gods. And so they teach that if we can just have the right
nosis, the right illumination, that we can actually get out and now do
what we want, and we don't have to be constrained by this notion of
good and evil, or man and woman that has been inflicted upon us.
So they conspire together, and the Lord in heaven laughs, and you shall
cast him into derision. And and then it talks here, Yet have I
anointed my king on my holy hill of Zion, which I think is the
magnetic mountain, And I will declare the decree of the Lord. He said
to me, you or my son, this day? Have I begotten?
You? Ask of me, and I'll give you the nations as your inheritance,
in the uttermost parts of the earth for your possession. So have you
ever, what is your opinion? George on For God so love the world
that he gave his only begotten son, How does the son get begotten?
That's interesting, That's that's a hard question, it is, and I've had
I've had email conversations with people that are very passionate about this particular subject.
Right, if you look at the literary you know explanation for it, it
is, you know, bringing a child into existence by the process of reproduction.
Right, but obviously you know that's you know, Jesus came through you
know, a virgin vessel. Not uh, it wasn't produced as every other
human being on this earth has been produced. And that's what's so amazing about
the Bible. You could you could ask a hundred people to sit down and
read a chapter and there's a chance you'll get fifty years, sixty different explanations
on what it means to them and how it's read. Yeah, but there's
layers of onions. Right, we can going deeper and deeper amazing, but
we need each other. We need each other on that point or else we
get let off into delusion. Yes, sir, so, I I mean
I I'm not convinced, but chewed on this a lot. What does it
mean to be be gotten? And we were talking about it at home church
of their day and debating this back and forth. I this is my theory,
my working theory, right. I think the godden is when the God
had decided on this creation. There you have the Trinity. And I'm a
firm believer in the Trinity for lots of good reasons. They're fully content in
themselves, they're fully happy and fully at peace, but they're fully full of
love, and love wants to share, and love wants to grow, and
one wants to build and there's just this desire to have family and to share
what they had to grow family. I mean that's kind of this desires in
us too. I mean, it's so natural for humans to want children.
So what does it take for God to have children for them to become part
of a perfect, holy, infinite God. You can't just I mean a
lot of people to steery, like why does God allow evil in the world?
Why does God do this? Why does I do that? You can't
just make people and say okay, now you're part of the family. Because
these created beings aren't They don't have the nature of God. And then you
have you know, Adam and Eve and they fall right, So what does
it take for us to become part of that? I think, you know,
the Lamb of God was slain before the foundation of the world. There
was an understanding of what would happen, so he was needed in order to
have us, you know, for the joy set before him. He endured
the cross, and that joy was us, That joy was his children.
So we get this time and space thing where we fell and fall into sin.
But he loved us so much he wasn't willing to abandon us. He
wasn't willing to let us go, so he came. But I think that's
when the Begotten part. But it was a kind of a decision in the
Godhead that Christ was going to be needed in order to to achieve this plan.
I don't know, what do you think about it. It's quite viable
explanation, it certainly is. And the Trinity, it's very interesting you mentioned
that that has been quite a hot topic recently. Yeah, that the podcast
here, and I get dozens at emails and addition that I don't share on
the air, But I will tell you that Michelle, who was a guest
back in I think May, she wrote a substack recently that if I'll try
to remember and put it in the show description, that she really hits it
on the head about the explanation of the Trinity and the Godhead and the importance
of it and not everything that we talk about it is in the Bible verbatim,
right, and she really explains it really well. Well, there's a
few points I have in that Jesus said, it's deedful for you that I
go away, because if I don't go away, I can't send the comforter.
And he will lead you and he will teach you, and he will
guide you, and he will be your advocate. And the word paraclet and
jer and Greek is just an amazing word. If you guys haven't gone out,
look at the word periclet and then you're like study that word, like
that's the Holy Spirit is to me, to us, So just just amazing.
And then the other thing I see about the teaching that there is no
trinity is and what does Jesus become if there's no trinity, because usually at
least the God being the Father and then sending this lesser being who's higher than
us to earth, well, it seems to lend to a theology where Jesus
is not equal to God, or it wasn't always equal to God, that
the full divinity isn't there. But that's not biblical. We all know that.
So it's pretty scriptural that Jesus is God, there's divinity is there.
We have the Holy Spirit and Jesus said he's going to send him to replace
him. The Holy Spirit replaces Jesus for us. So those are two examples
for me of how, yeah, we have it, we have a trinity.
I had this thought the other day too, and again I'm not one
hundred percent fixed on this one either. But and I really want to get
into this before we end up here, what is the nature of who we
are as people? Because we are entering into and this gets into rust isn't
our stuff? We are entering into the darkest time in history, Yes,
undoubtedly, and we're we could get into like the transhumanism and the mk ultra
stuff and rusted his star. He's like got millions of people out there who
are demonized, and the church isn't ready. We are not ready for the
amount of evil that is going to be unleashed on this world. Unvest We're
starting to spend time with him and we start to understand our real spirit warfare
is Oh, I lost my thought? Why you try to remember? I
just wanted to mention you really, Yeah, you hit something on the head
just about two or three minutes ago. So parically it's translated as like you
said, comforter or counselor. Also I think it translates as paracletos, And
it is very interesting where it says the counselor or the paraclete is God,
the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Trinity, who's been called by
our side or called to our side, I should say, yeah, yeah,
it's a thick, thick word. Yeah it is. Well. So
God made Adam out of the soil, He made him out of clay and
dirty, and it says God breathing him numa his breath. That's spirit.
So God's spirit entered into the clay, and it says, and Adam became
a living soul. So we are body, soul and spirit, and this
is this is huge and that really really want to encourage anybody who's sensing anything.
You think this is into you study gg Member or It's earliest ages.
Jesse Penn Lewis, I'll send you atlant to her book to Watch My Knees,
Latent Power of the Soul, and Andrew Murray The Spirit of Christ.
All four of those authors get into spirit, soul, and body and what
we are as people. And this gets into why does the dark side care?
Why do they care about people? Why are they always on us?
Why do they want to inhabit us? Why do they want to attack us?
Where do they want to use us? What is this all about?
And Knees Watch him N's book The Latent Power of the Soul, I think
is essential, absolutely essential reading for these times, and he actually says it
in his book I had the quote here, Okay. He basically says that
he feels that this is necessary information for spiritual warfare, and he uses the
phrase at the end of the age. The feeling exists is that when Adam
fell, there were certain powers that Adam had, He says, to have
dominion over the earth, and he spends a lot of time talking about this
at latent part of the soul he had. He had to have certain abilities
in order to have dominion over the earth. But when he fell, God
didn't remove those abilities from him. He made them latent. He kind of
capt them, He preserved them within us. Every religion on the earth tries
to tap into these abilities, whether a whirling dervish or a guru or or
any armistic there's this, there's this feeling this you go through rituals or whatever
you need to do to buy I passed the body and get to the soul.
You know. The first one of the first skills in the New Age
that you're trying that is often taught as astral projection. Oh you can astral
project you can go anywhere. And the army actually teaches us they call it
remote viewing, So what's what's going on there? What is that? These
are what NI calls them soul power. He goes there tons of examples.
He talks about people who can freeze water with their mind, people who can
find hidden objects in a room, prophesy, even events in the future.
And I was always talking growing up these are just demonic powers, and there's
some truth that there's some help. But NI basically says that these are soul
powers. These are things that we can actually do and get into. But
because the Bible says that our flesh is at enmity with God, our flesh
hates God, that's where sin resides. It resides in these flesh, and
that's when we when Jesus comes back, we're going to get new bodies.
At the end of time, it's going to be the end of all flesh.
Those things, all the heavens and earth to get are wrapped up all
the way and we're going to get it a different body because the sins are
wrapped up in it. So right now where we are, sin resides in
these bodies of flesh. And then when you're before you're born again, your
spirit is dead nothing, and it's our spirit that communicates with God. That's
where the communication realizes. It's our spirit to His spirit, and he says
that's where life comes from. Life has to come from His Spirit through our
spirit to people. So we're not going to be able to help people if
it's not spirit to spirit. But when we try to do things with soul,
and that's where this prophetic movement in the church is so awry and so
unhealthy and so demonic in my opinion, what's going on in these churches and
Denotal gets into he wrote a book about it. And Andrew's Strom also wrote
a book Andrew Strom is in the prophetic movement. When he started, it's
Kundalini, it's a it's the experiences are basically the same. There's demonic possession
going on, you've got gold dust falling from the sky or even prophecy.
It's all soul. So needs premise of this book as this is that if
we want to be a mature Christians, if we want to have an impact
in the world today, if we want to do real spiritual warfare, we
have to allow ourselves to die, to take up our cross daily, to
allow ourselves to be pruned, to allow it to go through these times of
pain and discomfort and suffering and allow God to do what he needs to do
in us, so that every day we die, we die daily, we
die more, and we learn to walk in the spirit, with His spirit
and everything that we do, because we're not going to be able to walk
by the knowledge of good evil anymore, not with what's coming down the pipe,
not with the a little evil that's happening. We're gonna have to know
instantaneously exactly what God wants to do and be in constant communicating and practice that
now. And what does that look like? And what does that feel like?
To in like a Frank bolotox, be a reservoir, not a canal,
to be filled with Him all the time, and to be able to
outflow from our reservoir out to wherever we go. So I I want to
ask and encourage everybody, how much have you died today? How much you
allowing your souls to die and allowing God to do his work in you.
I think we try too hard sometimes, And when I was in home church,
I actually swore on once where right now? But we try too hard
to do good, to change the world instead of just instead of just walking
with God in the cool of the garden. How he wants us to Yeah,
really well said, and I know I've meant it before. But the
people who are trying to lead us away from God, they want you to
believe that that Adam and Eve were the victim, and God had these people
trapped and wanted the knowledge for himself. And it's everything is inverted. That's
why you look at the Freemasons or the Illuminati. They've got the black and
white checkerboard floors. That's why they push trans that the trans agenda. Everything
is inverted. A couple things in reflection of what you just said. I'll
put this in the show description as well. Pastor Odel has a great series.
I haven't caught part three yet. I hope to tonight or tomorrow.
But it's an Eschatology, the Great End Time Delusion. The first two parts
were amazing. Part three drop last night. Please check them out. I'll
put him in the show description. It's amazing how he is basically saying,
hey, be aware because they're probably going to do a Project Blue Beam type
of thing, and they want people. You know, when Jesus does come
back to think that, you know, he's the bad guy and he talks
about the pope. It's just really credible how he puts these things together,
excuse me to together and delivers the message he's awesome. They hate him,
They hate him with a passion. Yeah yeah, So what do they want
to do? Like how are they using us? Right? I look at
virtual reality or are these our cell phones? Like you said, the constant
goal is to that getting people to sin. The more they can get us
to sin, the more power they have. Ye. So sin, sin
breeds on sin, breeds on sin, which leads to iniquity. And if
we the more we learn to forgive, Like look at Jesus and Stephen,
Father, forgive them the greatest sin in history. And Jesus's father, please
forgive them. He took the power of that sin and he cut it right
there. That sin was not able to move on and build up because he
cut it right there. And that's what we all need to practice. I
think that's one of the first rules of spiritual warfare. When when somebody hurts
us we see hurt, we can forgive what's going on around us, somebody
that's where haunted. How's this coming from, by the way, you know,
paranormal experiences, some great sin has been performed, and so the enemy
comes in, is able to infest that place. You go in and you
forgive that sin, you ask God to forgive it. That power is broken
right there, right then, Yeah, and they don't hide it anymore,
like I all we say right during during COVID, you know, all the
mom and pop stores they were not essential, but your liquor stores and your
dispensaries remained open. And it's easier to find porn on your computer than it
is any truth on flat earth because they're getting us to sin. That's a
fact. Absolutely, Yeah. And virtual reality. What's the first thing people
are doing in virtuality? They're making porn. They're making porn, a eyes
porn, Jot Watts if it's just kind of but it's like West World,
right, it doesn't matter what I do inside there, it's not. No,
you're sitting, that's right. You're gonna You're gonna go in this virtuality
and sin. You don't think that's going to have an impact. No,
you're building. You're building what Michael Lake likes to talk iniquity force, building
up that iniquity force all around us. Indeed, Yeah, ten minutes left,
I need to try to get down these last three things. Yeah.
Number one is do you think the people that are on the world stage,
do you think they truly understand what they're getting into? And do they realize
that while they may harvest the power here on earth, what awaits them at
the end of the game. Which people exactly I'm talking to people who bend
their need of Satan and are given worldly goods. The people who run the
world, the people at the top of the food change, whether it be
the roth Child's, the Rockefeller that, the people who are obviously in Caho's
with Satan, the people you know at the top that is encouraging all this
eabil to happen. I don't I don't think Lucifer knows what he's got himself
into. I'm convinced he's a father of lies. He's actually convinced himself that
he's deluded. He believes he can win, and he's convinced all his minions
around him that they're going to win. So they're all walking in the delusion
together. So I think I think these people at the talk they actually think,
no, we're going to do it this time. Like I believe in
this Internet, this tower Babble two point zero is that human beings like we
are the bricks in the pyramid, like on the Great Seal of the United
States. Like the first European Union poster. If you watch that, the
people or the bricks walking around, and in ancient times, they'll actually take
babies and they put him in the bricks, you know, they sacrifice people
and put him in the bricks of the wall. So we are the source.
There's something matrix like about what's being built where our soul power becomes the
energy behind what they're doing. So they actually think that, oh, this
is gonna this is going to be the right one. It's gonna work the
side. We're going to break through and overthrow the god at the universe,
like in the book A Sure right, they broke up into three different groups,
and we're going to overthrow this and you guys gonna take on the angels
indeed, And they're deluded, they're deluded, indeed. And there's also another
poster that I recall when the European Union was that in the nineties when they
kind of started kicking things off. We're eighties nineties with a European Union.
I think that was that was the eighties, I think eighties. There's also
a poster I recall that had eleven stars. Eleven is a very powerful number
to them, hence eleven, twenty two, sixty three, and nine eleven,
but it's eleven stars. And then underneath of it something very very reminiscent
of the Tower of Babbel being built. Oh probably, yeah, yeah,
they probably look at it with nostalgia, right, Nimrod. You know they
almost succeeded. Let's do it again. Yeah. I do remember that German
poster with the people being part of it as well. That's uh, I
do recall that. Man, there was something else I wanted to say,
Oh, George, come on, Oh, I know it's fits hard that
I watched my train of thought several times. Do you want to talk a
little bit about the numbers that you sent? I could just mention it if
you want. But they leave their signature, right, they leave their signature
everywhere. We've probably all seen as meme about all the six six sixes and
everything, and I just wanted to take some time to actually do the proof
of where the six six sixes in the space math come from. So I
put together a document and you can share in the links, and there's here
six there or six everywhere, six six six. I think one of the
neatest things I found in there was nautical miles. I never really knew it
nautical miles before, but a nautical mile, the math of it is based
on the curvature or the Earth. I had no idea. So there's two
numbers in there that are based on nautical miles. Once the speed of sound,
and the speed of sound has to do with the temperature, and so
when the temperature is sixty six point six degrees fahrenheit, then sound moves at
sixty six hundred and sixty six knots, and a knot is based on a
nautical miles. Just you can't make this stuff up. It's just like holy
moly. Indeed, and that that link will be in the show description as
well. Folks, it's really interesting. Make sure you check that out.
And you said, you know the tower, Babbel one point zero, the
people two point zero. Where does NASA fall in there? Do you think
they're actually is that just simply a distraction or do you think there's a more
nefarious use of NASA they're just propaganda arm Like what are they really accomplishing.
They're just a propaganda arm to keep us deceived. The real power is going
on behind the scene with the sin. Yeah, the more the more sin
that happens, we all we all get the propaganda game, the Edward Burneese
thing that's going on, to the sheep, the lemmings. It's just a
world of lies we love. Yeah, you know, like the flat earth
being a chief conspiracy. It's just like when when we get that and everything
is just like everything is a lie. I want to know truth. Truth
as a name, and his name is Jesus. Amen. Let's close for
these last few minutes. Tell us a little bit about your home school and
kind of what you're using for curriculum, and have you implemented flat earth into
it? No, not yet. If anybody out there wants to work with
me on a flat earth curriculum, I would love to do. That might
be a long project, but it would be collaborative and that would be a
ton of fun. I would really really enjoy that. I would probably use
a Charlotte Mason type method where we have a bunch of living books, which
we've mentioned already, and then kind of spring off it there and try to
develop some because the great thing about flat Earth is a science is so simple
and it can all be done in your in your home, So that would
be that would be neat. Homeschooling is a whole another great conversation we go
on for hours. My hero is John Taylor Gotto. John Taylor Gotto wrote
a book called The Underground History of Education in America, and it gets into
a ton of these subjects. But it's the best way to educate. It's
the best to be homeschool all our girls. I tried homeschooling my adopted son,
but he just wouldn't stand for it. He's way too social. So
we had to let that one go. So at homeschool after school hours did
I did answer all the questions on that absolutely. By the way, John
Taylor Gatto, that guy has more education than I think everybody in my town
here. He went to so many college super smart guy, super smart guy,
so much fun to listen to, so much information. Yeah, I
think he's big on and he doesn't beat around the bush either. He comes
out and says they're dumbing you down. They're not educating you, they're literally
dumbing you down. Yep. He wrote a book called Dumbing us down.
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Just go take a book John Taylor
gotta quotes and just read his quotes for a while. It's great. Ten
minutes awesome. This has been a tremendous, tremendous ninety minutes. And I
want to thank you so much for your time and your reflection and sharing your
story. And I just want to give you the platform here for the last
few minutes to kind of close out with anything you'd like to say. No,
thanks, thanks for talking. We wish we could sit down for a
coffee sometime. I just want to encourage everybody to like, it's all about
Jesus. He's the beginning, he's the end, he's the middle, he's
the front, he's a cornerstone. All things are made through him, by
him and for him, And that's what this thing that we're all living here
is all about. It's it's for him. At the end of time,
all every eye is going to see him. And you know that day I
want to be able to look up and have my arms out wide and and
say I want him to look at me and say well done, good and
faithful servant. So everything is going on around us, it's because they hate
him so much, they just despise him. So please read Late and Power
of the Soul. It will change the way you look at the way you
live your life every day. Practice walking in the spirit, be able to
step back when when things get tense and conflict and you're going to get angry
or you feel stuff, have you know going down, step back in your
mind and your heart and say, is his soul or is a spirit?
And there's a verse that says that the Word of God divides between soul and
spirit. Never understood that before, But we need to understand what a soul
soul is going to need to stand or what a spirit spirit is going to
need the life. So as we walk in our day and we move forward,
and God builds his kingdom all around us. The way he builds his
kingdom isn't the way that we think he should build his kingdom. It doesn't
look like we think. It's kind of secret, it's kind of underground,
it's kind of subversive. It's way softer and gentler than the way we think
kingdom should be built. So let's all just practice walking with him and and
see what that looks like, and be a reservoir and not a canal amen
be a reservoir and not a came out well, said my friend, and
it was really great to meet you. Yes, that's Frank Bola. That's
I mean still, it's it's it's it's it's great and it resonates well and
I'm sure with a lot of people. Again, thank you so much for
your time. And I know you're a busy guy and to be able to
take the time out and share your knowledge and your story, your journey that
will certainly resonate with everyone else. I greatly appreciate it. And thank you
to everyone. I wanted to throw this out there real quick, to everyone
who has been a part of this who's come on for an interview, I
want to thank you all so very much for really making this podcast what it
is. But I do I was thinking I would like episode one hundred to
kind of be like a best of. So if you were on this podcast,
like Darren is Today or let's say you're I'm just pulling this out here
Steve from episode twenty eight. If there's a particular part of the interview that
really resonates you think that was very important to the folks, just send me
an email say hey, it's so and so from episode twenty eight and just
give me the little the time, like around the twenty three minute mark I
said this, and I'll go back and I'll grab the audio from it just
a few minutes from everybody who's been on here, and I want to kind
of put together like a best of podcast for episode one hundred. So you
know, we'll take a little bit of audio from everyone, we'll put it
together, and we'll release it kind of a as a celebration and as a
thank you to everyone who's been on this show. So don't forget do that.
Just send it to the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com and then
the show description just put episode one hundred or something like that, so I
make sure I give it priority because we're coming up on it pretty soon.
So thank you everyone, and again, thank you Darren so much for your
time. I'm George God bless everyone. Have a wonderful week. And until
the next time we meet, my friends, we will see. Uh.
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