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The following presentation isnt Al Marvet Studios
Production. Welcome back truth Seekers from around

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the world. It is time for
another edition of the flat earth Files podcast

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Lots to talk about here today with
our very special guests who will be

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joining us in just a moment before
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And there you go. All right,

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without any further ado, we're going
to bring on our very special guests joining

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us from Western Canada is Darren and
we've been emailing back and forth for quite

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a bit, but we finally caught
up. We have a lot in common

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and I'm really looking forward to the
conversation. Darren, how are you doing

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today? I'm doing awesome. Good
morning, George, good morning. It's

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great to meet you. So before
we kick off the conversation, why don't

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you introduce yourself to the audience.
Yeah, can we start with prayer?

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Please? That would be great,
father, and we just we give this

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time to you. Pray that you've
got our words in our conversation, needed

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where you wanted to go, and
I just prey would be a blessing to

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everyone who hears Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Yeah, boy. There's

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parts of my life that I usually
don't talk about, but I really felt

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I needed to share a bit of
it today. Grew up in a home

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where my dad had major schizophrenia and
he had nervous breakdowns pretty well all growing

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up, every two years around Christmas. But when I was a kid,

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I had some pretty spiritual experiences like
four years old, five years old,

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six years old, they kind of
of dreams and dark shapes come in the

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room, and some of these experiences
they were I was awake for sure,

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and sometimes they'd get into bed with
me. I'd have dreams where I'd come

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home and they pull me down into
the basement, things like that. Something

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as I got older, sometimes i'd
go around in my dream. I'd go

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around the back of the house and
look in the window because I didn't want

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to go in the house because I
didn't want to get pulled down again.

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So things like that happened a lot. There was, you know, dreams

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where I couldn't couldn't talk, get
carried away in the like up above the

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ground, kind of floating, and
then I couldn't scream, and I see

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it hurt other people. I have
similar experiences like that. But the one

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thing I want to point when I
was about sixteen and I got baptized on

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the Only Spirit. When I was
twelve and still learning to speak in tongues

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was kind of normal. I remember
sixteen, I had this the last dream

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I had of those, and I
went into basement and I was a little

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fed up, and they weren't just
dark shapes anymore, like lingering behind me

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or you know, tall and thin. They were kind of floating, and

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they didn't have arms, they didn't
have legs, and they had this kind

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of purple glowing center in the middle
of them. And I stood in the

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basement and I pointed my finger at
them all, and I started speaking in

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tongues and going in a circle and
just really angry. And that was the

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last dream I had of those.
So I don't know if that that holds

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anybody. That kind of formed a
lot of you know, being a Christian.

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When I was about six years old, baptizing Holy Spirit and those guy

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formed a foundation of in my dad. Adding schizophrenia, I found a lot

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of refuge in the church. So
I would find people to to take me

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to church, go to youth group
and things like that. So that was

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that became my family growing up,
finding people to spend time with, go

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to the church. That's like just
a love for God has been there since

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since day one. I went to
Bible School and what was about nineteen she

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where do I go from there?
One question, would you say what you

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experienced was partially like a sleep paralysis
type of deal I never had with sleep

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paralysis, like really can't move.
I do remember times when they would come

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in the room and I just start
praying and like Jesus helped me. Jesus

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helped me. And it was weird
because I thought Jesus would just get rid

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of them right away, but that
didn't happen. But I was able to

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go to sleep, so that was
great. Sure, I think I was

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more scared than anything, but it
wasn't like I couldn't move. And I

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do know what you're talking about,
and I don't know why. And maybe

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it's because I was a Christian,
Maybe because I did have, you know,

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a renewed spirit that I wasn't able
to fall into sleep for alliss I'm

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not sure exactly, but yeah,
no, interesting, that's uh. And

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obviously a church was, like you
said, it was a refuge for you

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when you were going through a difficult
time. Well my whole life. I

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remember twelve years old calling guys up
and they'd come, give me ride,

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give me ride home. We sitting
and drive way and talk for hours and

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stuff like that. But growing up, my dad was usually in bed,

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you know. I'd come home and
eusually sleeping down and recovering from his last

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episode. Yeah, so my family
wasn't really at home, although you know,

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home was it was fed well,
was dressed well, but home wasn't

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really where I felt safe, if
that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely,

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yeah, uh she I got married
in ninety nine. I was teaching by

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that time, and nine to eleven
was a big deal for sure and for

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sure, and so the thing I
wanted to bring up there is I remember

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watching this. I remember the thought
that hit my head was like, boy,

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those terrors sure got lucky, right. I was like wow, because

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like, how could they have just
hit those columns just right? It just

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came down just right, and it's
like, man, they got lucky that

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day. That kind of just was
there, right, It was in the

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back of my head. Sure,
And I was always kind of anti corporation,

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anti business. You know, these
big corporations, they don't they don't

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really care about it, not much. But that was about it. Two

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thousand and two, my wife got
cancer. I was a big deal.

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And she was pregnant at the time, so that even made it a bigger

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deal because they had to hold off
until the baby, our daughter was viable.

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I would say that that was a
lynchpin are really that helped me go

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down the road. I wouldn't be
where I am today without that. So

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and my wife says the same thing. But the biggest thing we learned out

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of that was just food. Like
the more research that we did, the

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more we seem to realize that the
most likely cause is just food that we'd

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probably been eating, or maybe bathroom
products that we'd been using. How does

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a thirty year old, viable,
healthy woman get cancer, Like, where

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does that come from? And it
was limpomous, so it's in her immune

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system. Right. So when I
when I talked to people about my awakening,

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you know, I've been saved a
whole life. And one of my

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big all the time a creation evolution. I just was passionate about that.

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I teach kids in school about,
Yeah, the woodpecker with the tongue that

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wraps around its head, and trees
that go through many fossilized layers, and

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I love Kn't Hogan, the dinosaur
guy and Doctor Dino. So those things

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I was just passionate about. So
that was always rested in my crowd too.

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But my awakening started two thousand and
four. I watched a movie called

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Amazing Grace And if anybody hasn't seen
that movie, I just just love it.

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It's the biography of William Wolverforce and
put an amazing, amazing He basically

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poured himself out to fight slavery in
Britain. And this is before the Civil

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War Greater around the same time,
but before the Civil War in the States.

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And at the end of the movie, I was just like wow.

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And then I started going through the
extra credits, the extra resources, and

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they had links in there about the
slavery still going on in the world.

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I'm like, no, slavery camp
you God thought we fought all that stuff.

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I thought because Lake in high school, we were always taught that we

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brought freedom and democracy everywhere, and
all these wars are about helping the world

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and fighting communism, and we just
have the greatest civilization ever and we're just

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spreading it. It's like, slavery
cam't be going on. What are you

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talking about? So I started doing
its research, like, well, we

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macharl, there's slavery going on in
the world. I read a little story

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about ick Ball, this little Pakistani
boy twelve years old who made soccer balls

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in Pakistan, and then I learned
about these kids who are chained to weaving

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looms to make rugs for us,
and just started like, oh, my

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goodness, he's brick making kids.
Ever read about the kids that make bricks

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and Indian Pakistan and over there and
just slave boy all day to make bricks

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for other people in other countries,
And I'm like, this is is is

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crazy? And then the big book
was The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.

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Have you ever read that, George, what was it called again, Shock?

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The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Kahin,
No, I have not. I'm

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writing it down now as we speak. Though. Yeah, she's a Canadian

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investigative journalist. She's totally on the
climate bandwagon now, so I'm not I'm

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not a huge fan anymore. But
The Shock Doctrine is an amazing book.

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And she's got a whole chapter in
there on on what shock is, and

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she gets an mk ultra in the
CIA and all that stuff. And then

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the premise of the book is this
is that anywhere free market capitalism has gone

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in the world, it's always been
preceded by a shock. And sometimes those

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shocks are manufactured and sometimes they're natural. She goes into the asunami that happened

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in near India there and Thailand.
Well that sosnami wiped out prime oceanland right

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like Maui right now. And uh, but so they took the fisherman and

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they took their boats, and they
gave them the land like a mile inland,

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and then they took over a lot
of the shoreline and put up major

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resorts. That happened like all over
the place. She talks about Iraq,

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how they bombed and bombed Iraq like
crazy, and you know a lot about

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this. Yeah, we brought all
freedom by dropping bombs on them. Yeah.

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Well, then they wanted to rebuild
the country, George. And there's

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all these people, all these poor
people in Iraq, and there's all these

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companies over there, and they actually
make cement. But the West didn't use

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the people of Iraq, and they
didn't use the companies of Iraq to rebuild

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Iraq for ten times the cost.
They brought in cement across the ocean,

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and they brought into workers and companies
from across the ocean to rebuild Iraq.

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And the name when he gets into
that, it was like this is just

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insane. And she gets in a
whole bunch of she gets into a lande

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and the overthrow of different countries.
What's the Chicago School of Economics is a

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big topic in the book. It
very much matches up with John Perkins The

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Economic Hitman. Basically, the West
is they sell loans to countries all over

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the world. They want to build
infrastructure, they want to make their countries

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better. So the World Bank and
the IMF go in and say, yeah,

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we'll help you out. We'll give
you We'll give you all this money

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and just sign this contract right here. And for some reason you can't make

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these exorbitant payments. They wouldn't use
that word. Then all the resources of

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your country are collateral. And that
was what John Perkins did in The Economic

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Hickman. He talks about that,
And there's a quote in a book,

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Oh No, I think the only
kind is a There's a man named Davis

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and Buddy and he worked for the
IMF for twelve years and I'll never forget

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the quote. He resigned and he
wrote a letter to them and he says,

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the names I have, the things
I've done, and the name of

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the IMF I'm rephrasing. I can't
remember exactly, but they haunt me.

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He says, the blood is dripping
from my hands. In fact, it's

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caked on and dried, and I
can't get it off. All the things

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I've done in the name of the
IMF. Yeah, and you can actually

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find that video on YouTube. He
did an interview for like an hour ninety

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minutes. But he's speaking in another
language. So I always wanted to play

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that as part of we do classic
audio on the other podcast, but it's

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I don't remember which language he speaks, but it's subtitled. And yeah,

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he really he gets it. He
understands that, you know, the bankers.

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You know, you can have whatever, you can talk about your Prince

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Charles, you can talk about your
your bidens, but the people who run

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this world are the bankers. Definitely. Definitely, so right around the same

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And I've always been involved in the
church and as a youth group leader,

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but right around the same time,
my wife and I started feeling a little

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bit uncomfortable, like what are we
doing here? What is this? What

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are we doing every Sunday? And
I think part of that is we had

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little kids. We had a four
and a three year old I think at

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a time maybe three and a two
year old, and so go to church

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is hard. Just getting there is
is good, and then getting home is

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the day is hard, just to
get the church and get home, and

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it's a lot of work. It's
like what are we doing here? It's

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like, what is this sting church? And the word that we started to

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churn in our heart was repentance,
just a really need for repentance. And

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I'm reading this book and I'm realizing
that this life that we have here in

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the West. I had always been
told it's it's the residue of us living

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for God and all this beautiful Christian
heritage that we have, and there's some

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truth to that, but I began
to realize that most of this comfort that

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we have in the Western world has
been built on the blacks and the bodies

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and the blood of the third world
nation, and we've basically stolen their resources

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from Him so that we can have
materialism. And if you've never seen the

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Story of Stuff, that's a great
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class. She's got amazing quotes in
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World War, there's a quote by
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need to make materialism the new religion
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greater quantities, and that became government
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you can see that the Western world, that's exactly what we've done. But

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we haven't done it on our own. We've we've stolen it flat out.

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about it that much. And my
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charismatic church, and so we weren't
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linked to Have you heard of the
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I started, you know, learning
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is all about prophets and prophecy.
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supposed to be hearing from God.
God's supposed to be speaking to them,

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but you never hear you read prophets
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they're talking about. They're talking about
our sins. They're talking about the things

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that we're doing wrong, the things
we need to repent of. And if

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you repent, then God will bless
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then then not have to punish you
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God says, I love judgment.
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again. Let's come back. We're
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the true ways, the simple ways. That's what God says. And

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so I'm learning these things and I'm
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into I found Loose Change and Alex
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know, the pieces started to fall
into place about what is this thing that

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we're living in here? What are
these things that has happened. You can't

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have girder has cut at forty five
degree angles, and you can't have molten

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metal that is hot for months on
end, and you can't have buildings fall

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at free fall speed, and on
and on and on. The gold stolen

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from from New York the day before
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dollars from the Pentagon. Just going
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a beautiful number that two point three
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Yeah, So they're just lying to
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lying to us. So Basically at
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watch and TV. You know,
Survivor, it was a big show back

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then, and we just started watching
documentaries, documentaries every single night. What

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documentary were gonna watch tonight? And
that was just an amazing time, just

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learning so much food inc the Corporation. There's a great video ah, etcetera,

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etcetera. And one guest on Alex
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It's like, oh, who's this
guy named Steve Quayle started listening to Steve

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Quaile. Holy Moly, there's some
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a guest one time named Tom Horn
and they did this six hour, I

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think trilogy podcast on Genesis six,
and I in combam just the whole the

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Bible just opened up in a way
that never ended. Steve Quail says,

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Genesis six is the Rosetta stone of
the whole Bible. And then we just

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just dove in. I just I
don't know where I go from there,

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but uh, learning about the ephelum
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lover of ancient history sure, and
things just really made so much more sense.

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in the days of Noah social be
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so now we're sensing okay, things
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direction. Oh. The Book of
Joshua, they practiced the mixing of species

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in order to provoke the Lord.
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practicing the mixing of species. Not
only are we doing or passionate about it.

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Oh, we want to mix the
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okay, I'll pause there. Yeah, that's a perfect place to pause

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and hold on. Let me write
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to talk to you. I have
like nine questions to ask you just on

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that you talked about. You've touched
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I've changed my life as well.
I don't remember which document entry it was,

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but the products that you use in
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the most alarming was, uh,
you know, I never you know,

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I was. I wasn't an athlete
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round through school. In the military, I played on a few soccer teams

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until nine to eleven, and then
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for fun stuff. But you know, if you look at the ingredients on

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your deodor and one of the most
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the two. And I might be
wrong, folks, make sure you check

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me, but just don't use Google. But it's the armpits and I think

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the bottom of your feet are like
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like sponges. And you put yeah, and you put aluminum in you know,

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under your armpit, and then you
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just man, is that something that? And then you can I can go

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on about shampoos, about suntanan suntan
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don't get skin cancer from the sun. You get it from this this untan

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lotion exactly. So yeah, we
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Tom's products. You know, we
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washes, like the old spice or
whatever was the but for the last however

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many years, it's been you know, we use the I can't think of

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the name of the soap, but
it's just straight soap, no fragrances,

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no additives. Uh no, it's
I want to say it's from England,

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but it's it's it's just very pure. And what was the next thing?

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So you've gone through a lot in
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and I think one of the common
themes that I've noticed through interviews and

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then my own reflection on life is
the people who go through a lot of

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trials and tribulations are going or currently
are the stronger ones. And when things

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really go sideways, I think those
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succeed when they really put their foot
on our throats, if you know what

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I mean, Oh, totally totally
young. In order to build up our

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muscles, I have to be broken
down exactly. And we will talk about

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your homesteading and everything else here in
a little bit. The next remark,

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I guess is you'd mentioned the slave
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podcast on this some time last year. Now, obviously, you know,

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you hear, you can read reports, and there's numbers out there. You

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don't really know whether it's high or
low, but I've seen numbers. I

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think the most average number is fourteen
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and most of them are in Asia, particularly I would say Eastern Asia,

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and it's there's just millions and millions, And what you said is like the

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thing. And I've told my wife
this, I've told my children the things

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we enjoy just looking around my office
right now, that the computer monitors my

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mix or my TV, my musical
insustry's. Most of them are made in

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like China or the Philippines, places
where the people making these things are getting

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like a buck or two bucks an
hour. Yea, what do you say,

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George. I talked to a friend
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but their lives are better than they
would have been. No, yeah,

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no, I've why don't we help
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these people were like six sometimes seven, twelve hour days a week, and

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they don't get over time, they
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they work. That's what a lot
of people don't understand. They will work,

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they'll just clock out. They'll go
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get you get their slop in their
soup, and hang out. Yeah,

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and go right back back at it
the next day. Now, this

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one I was I did contracts in
Iraq And I think you said her name

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was Naomi Klein. Yeah, she's
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here's what they did. They would
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local people. So I did contracts
for concrete pads and and like latrines.

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They would set the latrines and come
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you know, the porta potties.
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anything with you know, food services, laundry, building, force protection,

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with the tea walls, anything like
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and Kabar or some other big company. They would they would throw the minnows

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to the local people make them feel
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I don't want to put a number
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a few locals that that did okay. But for the most part they got

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they got crackers, right, They
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and man some of the contracts and
the fact that eight billion dollars was missing

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from l. Paul Bremer, who
was just flown in palettes of cash for

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him to use it his discretion,
and then when they audited everything, he

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was short eight billion dollars, and
nobody blinked an eye, Just like nobody

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blinked an eye about the two point
three trillion dollars and it's infuriating and I'm

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so thankful. I do a nine
to eleven special every year on the Fact

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Hunter, and I actually had a
gentleman reach out to me. His dad

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was a firefighter and he died on
the forty fourth floor trying to get up

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there and save people. He knows
that nine to eleven was rus and he's

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going to speak out about it.
So it's it's encouraging to see people,

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like for folks in the truth community, to see actual people who were affected

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directly by nine to eleven, to
see those people come out and speak and

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say, yeah, we know,
yes, my dad was a hero.

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Obviously his dad was a great hero, but also to the effect that you

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know, I know that my father
should be alive today and it's all because

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of X, Y and Z.
I think that's very strong and that speaks

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to the fact, like what we're
doing right now, we're having a conversation,

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it's going out to a lot of
people and we're making a difference.

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I think that's how we've kind of
win win over more people and eventually,

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if there's a tide to turn,
this is one way to do it.

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about it. It's very interesting. I

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saw a video three or four months
ago we talk about once and needs.

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They gave this paper to a guy
who was eighty years old, a guy

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who was forty five, and a
guy who was eighteen, and they said

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put a W for want and an
end for need, and they had things

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like cell phone, food, water, And it's interesting the eighteen year old

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when it got to cell phone,
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need. And I think that's a
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a lot of people and I'm not
limiting it to an age group here,

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but there's a lot of people out
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once and need. It's what are
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don't, And I think it's the
end of empire. I'm thinking where the

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materialism, the hedonism, the pleasure
all kind of gets wrapped up in it,

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and we don't truly understand what it
means to have a harder life but

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a more content life. We become
weak, we become a spineless. It's

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it's all part of the and I
don't know if it can be fought because

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it's a cycle of history. Yeah, there's a great paper out there about

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the end of Empires and I was
written by a military man, just excellent.

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He has seven empires in there,
and he goes through the common denominators

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of every empire, ends up with
materialism and hedonism and pleasure, and that

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the foreigners coming in and the evaluation
of the dollar. So I think the

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best that we as a remnant can
do is just get ready for those that

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can be take Yeah, yeah,
one hundred percent. And man, I

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had something I was going to say, and and then I was just listening

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to and it dropped out of my
head. But going back to the food,

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everybody heard of the roth Child.
So everybody's heard of the Rockefellers and

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the DuPonts. Yeah, I would
encourage everybody to research this family, the

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Cargos, C. A, R, G. I, L. L.

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the food that gets distributed, certainly
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a large handle on it worldwide.
And if you look at all the lawsuits,

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because we talk about often that we
know about Black Rock, we know

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about Vanguard owning all the corporations,
but it's the same story with our food,

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and that goes back to what you
were saying is being cognizant of what

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you eat, because we are being
poisoned in our brains. Right, Oh,

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you got a dandylion, you better
go get some round up and spray

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round up on something that can heal. And then we're eating processed food,

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which is causing a lot of the
issues that we're encountering later in life.

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Well totally. That leads right in
to the next part of my stories.

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About two thousand and eight, we
said, you know what, we need

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to get control of our food or
we're gonna die. You know, I

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was learning, like Mike Adams had
a video on they spray plastic on foods

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in order to make a last longer, this thin sheet of plastic, and

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it's been approved, Like that's insane, Like who do things up stuff like

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that except psychopaths. But then they
saw it to us, Oh yeah,

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it's just fine. So we endeavored
to get out of the city and really

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living in Cologna at the time,
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moved up to the West Coutnees and
got an acreage and we had a little

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kids and we were able to raise
our kids in homeschool on an acreage.

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We got a cow. I milk
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Raw milk is just so good.
We had a jersey so my wife

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and I love coffee, and there's
nothing better than jersey cream and a coffee

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in the morning. I tell you, that's just a bit of heaven.

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I remember that first meal we sat
down too, and her parents moved onto

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property with us, so we had
a three generation farm and which was just

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beautiful, and they helped with the
homeschooling, especially my mother in law.

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And I remember the first meal we
sat down too, and there was no

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00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.920
meat, no meat at the meal. It was all kind of like fall

409
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:40.599
vegetables. And I've never eaten a
meal that felt so rich and dense and

410
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.160
incredibly nutritious. And my body was
just like, oh, it was just

411
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:51.119
like where did this come from?
Type thing? It was just beautiful.

412
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So this is what food is supposed
to be. And part of that conversation

413
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.960
in my heart at the time too, was like they robbed this from us.

414
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.799
Two. You know, there's stuff
in the grocery store is just another

415
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.960
facade of what real food is,
and we've let this be taken away from

416
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.839
us as well, and you know, so live in a life where we

417
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.960
can take that back, like real
nutrition, real health coming right out of

418
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:23.200
the ground. I remember one of
the documentaries we'd watched before is that I

419
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:30.599
learned about in New York parents were
buying dirt bacteria for their kids because their

420
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.960
kids were getting sick when they came
in contact with dirt. So they would

421
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.079
go, you know, and get
this special thing down at the door so

422
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:44.839
their kids would become accustomized to dirt
bacteria. Just like, what, what

423
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:49.119
what is this culture we're living in? This is It was just one of

424
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.480
the things I like, this is
loupy. This is loupy. We got

425
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.559
it. You know, Let's get
our kids in the country and do something

426
00:32:53.559 --> 00:33:00.000
about that. So those are those
are really good years, really good years

427
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.799
on the farm. That's awesome.
And while we're kind of still on health

428
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:08.039
and things like that, you had
mentioned how Genesis six kind of changed the

429
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:12.960
way you looked at things and how
you read the Bible, and it kind

430
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.839
of opened your mind to other things, maybe who might be involved in a

431
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.119
lot of the evils And then you're
also seeing those things today, you know,

432
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.960
whether it be the big trans push
which also is a big part of

433
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:30.319
their push for lowering the population.
Right. They're big on that. You

434
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.400
hear Bill Gates talk about that all
the time. The Georgia Guidestones. The

435
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:37.640
very first rule on there was keeping
the world population at five hundred million in

436
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:43.359
perpetual balance with nature, right,
whereas God says, go forth and multiply.

437
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.079
So I want to real quick,
and I don't know how deep dived

438
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:53.559
you've gone into this, but vaccines
I pulled out the CDC dot gov the

439
00:33:53.799 --> 00:34:02.279
ingredients. Now they say these are
the excipient ingredients. Which are they just

440
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.320
they serve as the vehicle, right? But you look what's in vaccines and

441
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:15.199
the common ingredient for maldehyde aluminum.
And I will folks listening, I'll put

442
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.920
this in the show description and it
is from the CDC. This isn't from

443
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.800
Natural News or anything like that.
This is from the CDC saying what is

444
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.719
going inside your bodies? Have have
you looked into vaccine and what are your

445
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.920
what are your thoughts on them?
I've looked. I couldn't like teach somebody

446
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.440
about it, but what I what
I know about it is it they're vial

447
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.320
and they're just pure poison and we
did not vaccinate our kids, so I

448
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:44.239
think our first daughter we did.
But it was right about that time that

449
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.679
we were waking up and we stopped
at pretty quick. So yeah, I

450
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.559
mean, and this is way before
COVID, right, so right, right,

451
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.679
you know when COVID hit, we
were we were out from day one

452
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.920
on that one, which is actually
a whole nother subject. But when do

453
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:02.920
you when you look at how they
do vaccines, there's a couple things about

454
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:09.599
it. Is a lot of the
technology is based on how stakes inject venom

455
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:15.559
into their to their prey. And
another technology, when you get into how

456
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:22.559
it works, it's like a rape
of the cell. You're basically first forcing

457
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.679
something into the cell that in God's
view, the way God designed to cell

458
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.199
wasn't designed to do. So there's
a raping and an injecting that is a

459
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.599
violation of the way the God's designed
us. And when you look at that

460
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:40.320
technology, that's that's the philosophy behind
how how the vaccine works. When you

461
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.039
look at it that way, it's
like, well, that's evil. It's

462
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:51.480
not that just bypasses everything God's design. Why would I do that? Agreed?

463
00:35:51.639 --> 00:36:00.280
And the flu shot from twenty twenty
one included a piece of a sell

464
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.360
proteins from a kidney from a dog. It's called Maiden Darby cane on kidney

465
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.360
and don't believe me, look it
up for yourself. It's literally from a

466
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:14.760
dog and we're putting this in our
body. It's just unbelievable. An animal

467
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:19.079
semen, yep. And the worst
one, the worst one is aborted fetal

468
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:24.199
sauce. So now we're involved in
cannibalism. So yeah, no, I

469
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:29.280
mean, it's just it's just viole
right from from the beginning it is.

470
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:30.960
It's certainly not going to do it. No, not going to do it.

471
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:36.440
If we build anything, you know, the end does not justify the

472
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.039
means. If we whatever we're building, if we're sinning in the process of

473
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:44.000
building something, then that foundation of
whatever we're building is built on sin,

474
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:50.320
and it be it permeates the whole, the whole structure. Well said,

475
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:59.280
let's continue in your journey. Yeah, uh, where do I go from

476
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:06.800
their all? I I mean,
part of what some of the things that

477
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.920
are dear to my heart is we
were attending a local church here at the

478
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:14.639
time, and some things are starting
to alarm me there because they were a

479
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.760
lot of people there that were I
would call them Betheltes, people who go

480
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:23.280
down to bethelert places like that and
bring back those teachings and that doctrine.

481
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:30.920
So I spent a lot of time
researching the foundations of an aar and the

482
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:37.440
prophetic movement and not really not really
impressed with with what I was seeing.

483
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.199
Yeah, I don't want to get
too deep into that right away, But

484
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:50.239
it's soul. It's it's based on
soul. It's and when it's sorcery,

485
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.679
it's you were declaring something, You're
exerting your will through something like a lot

486
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:00.079
of the teaching is if your will
is strong enough, if you want something

487
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.360
strong enough, if you pray for
it hard enough, you can make it

488
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:12.159
happen. Declaring things from the pulpit
or you know in prayer that you're almost

489
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.159
like forcing God to do so if
you do something in the right way,

490
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.679
then God's going to come through for
you. And Bill Johnson, there's a

491
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:23.559
pastor at Bethel, has said something
he doesn't believe that God would allow anybody

492
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:28.800
to be sick, like God hates
well, God does hate sickness. But

493
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.920
if you believe that nobody can be
sick, and if you're sick that you've

494
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:35.679
just missed it, or your faith
isn't strong enough, if you've sinned somehow

495
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.800
you're missing, you're missing how God
wants to raise us up. God's goal

496
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.639
isn't for us to have a life
full of peace and joy and happiness.

497
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:51.840
That is not not what we're doing
here. God's goal is to build the

498
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.000
image of his son into us,
to build the character of God into us,

499
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:59.639
and he will do whatever it takes
to make that happen. One of

500
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:04.119
my favorite writers is Oswell Chambers,
and the title of his biography is Abandonment

501
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.199
to God. You know that we
would be utterly abandoned to him, and

502
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:12.039
we'd be like Shadrack Mishak and the
Bendigo. So we will not bow down

503
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.800
to your idols. And we know
that our God is able to save us.

504
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:21.920
But if he doesn't, we still
won't bow down because you know,

505
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:23.840
and there's another thing David said,
even though he slay me, yet will

506
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:30.679
I praise him. That's that's the
attitude I want. That's that's where I

507
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.559
want to want to go with it. Okay, So I think the flatter

508
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:39.599
attorney would probably be probably next.
I got a good friend and he was

509
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.960
just kept talking about flatterth flatter,
and I'm down a lot of rabbit holes.

510
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:46.960
I mean, I think once you
get down to neph alone, you

511
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:53.280
get to Fritz Springmyer and Bloodlines of
the Illuminity Rust Dizdar. I have several

512
00:39:53.320 --> 00:40:00.440
books by Rust Dizdar, and he
is all about what was God bless see

513
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:07.360
him in Heaven No, the Black
Awakening. He's good. That's where Rust

514
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:15.719
Beliezer's millions of people who have been
satanically and sexually sexually traumatized, they've been

515
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:22.079
basically it's like an MK ultra thing. But you haven't if you you were

516
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.599
Ruststor's work at all. Vaguely,
I'm very aware obviously them k Ultra.

517
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.119
I'm very familiar with mister Springmyer's work. I've done research and I have all

518
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:37.840
his books, but not so much. Yeah, rest would be like a

519
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:47.239
satanic ritual abuse that angle dis dar
d I z d a R. Thank

520
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.000
you Dar. He wrote a book, a book called The Black Awakening,

521
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:59.800
which is probably his most well known
one. When people are traumatized and they

522
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:05.360
go through a trauma and you get
into MK ultra and what what the dark

523
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:10.800
side the elite do at different levels
is they deliberately traumatize people. It would

524
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:19.679
get into like an adrena chrome type
situation. But instead of doing an adrena

525
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.360
chrome angle, you know, extracting
that I guess they would extract soul.

526
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.719
You could look at would would be
a great way to look at it.

527
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.559
So traumatize the individual and when someone
has that much fear of that trauma,

528
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:39.199
then they regress it that they can
split apart. And so what they do

529
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:45.480
is they directly split the soul.
And they've developed ways of this gets into

530
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.239
army stuff too, like there's people
have come out and testify it that the

531
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.039
different divisions of the army will do
this on purpose. It would get into

532
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:58.519
like a Manchurian candidate type thing.
So there's a direct splitting of the soul.

533
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:04.480
And then that soul split, you
can in the ceremony you can then

534
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.719
attach a demon to it. And
the women Aody do this. They do

535
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.800
this with their their teenagers when they
come of age. They go through a

536
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:15.239
special ceremony and Russ has talked about
it about this. They'll go to a

537
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.519
special ceremony and they will somehow they
will attach a demon to that split personality.

538
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.159
And you could do this many,
many, many times. I think

539
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:28.960
the soul is I don't. I
don't think we fully understand what our soul

540
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.480
is. But you know, you
look at Jesus right, we are a

541
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.880
legion. There's thousands of demons and
how do you get thousands of demons inside

542
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:42.119
of body? And there's so there's
something to who we are and what we

543
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.960
are that I don't think we fully
comprehend yet. Which is a really important

544
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.880
question I want to talk about today
is why do the demons care about us,

545
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.519
the fallen angels? Why are we
so important to them? Why don't

546
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:59.119
they do they just want to I
just want to hurt God if they just

547
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:00.760
want to cause gods. But I
just want to drag as many souls down

548
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:05.719
to Hell as I can. I
don't think that's the full picture. I

549
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.960
think there's something more that they want. There's a there's an end goal in

550
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:21.360
the game. Yeah, So rust
is Star Rusty Star. That book is

551
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:27.320
eighteen hundred dollars on I guess it's
not produced anymore. Uh, it's really

552
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.800
hard to find on Amazon it's eighteen
hundred dollars and on other like ISBNs dot

553
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:37.199
net where they can usually find them. There there's no new, no use,

554
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.280
no Reynolds. But yeah, how
put the link to check it out?

555
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:46.280
If you have eighteen hundred dollars dot
com, let's say again try Lulu

556
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:52.280
dot com is self publishing, so
he did a lot of his books through

557
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:58.920
Lulu. Oh, okay, gotcha, I'll check it out. That's very

558
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.239
all right, So I think I've
been out a lot. Sorry to go

559
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:04.679
aheaders. No, no, I
just said that's very interesting. I need

560
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.800
to find at least the PDF or
fucking get it affordable. I'll definitely get

561
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:12.159
it. Go ahead. I'm sorry, didn't mean interrupt. Yeah, Russ's

562
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.960
a great teaching like, if anybody's
interested in spiritual warfare, I highly recommend

563
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:20.719
him. So I got this friend
and he's not a Christian, and he's

564
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.039
like, you're at this flat,
dude. I'm like, I don't know,

565
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:28.920
man, and both this time I
Canary Carry Radio. One of my

566
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:34.639
favorite podcasts, Gone's, Gone's and
Basil There's so much fun. So I

567
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:40.360
listened to them a lot, and
Gone said did a great documentary. Ah,

568
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.800
what was it called? Again?
It was about the nim and the

569
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.360
fallen Angels. Great, great work. So he had this guest around twenty

570
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:53.119
fifteen. And sky's talking about flat
and ironically, I just listened to your

571
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:59.000
interview it was Mark Sargeant, and
uh so I'm listening to this podcast.

572
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.920
I'm like. And I woke up
the next morning and I went out my

573
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.960
door before I started working, I
looked up at the sky and I remember

574
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.559
screaming, and I was I was
looking into a hollow earth theory at the

575
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:15.039
time too. It was justin Fallow
and watched his documentary and I thought,

576
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.280
this flatter thing is a it's got
to be a CIA psyop. They're trying

577
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.000
to distract this from all over.
And I looked up, I looked up

578
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.760
at the sky and I just screamed
in my heart. I don't live in

579
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:30.599
a terrarium. Just it just felt
wrong, It just felt weird, and

580
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:37.000
I just I talked to my wife
about it, and she's like, we're

581
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.400
not talking about this. She was
so opposed to it. It was just

582
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:44.280
like there's just no way. And
so I dropped it put in the shelf.

583
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:50.480
But my friends still needling me still
every time we talk. And I

584
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.840
said, what difference does it make
whether we live on a ball or on

585
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.639
a flat plane. We still have
to deal with Jesus we have this man

586
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.599
that came died Rose again and we
have to know what who he is and

587
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:06.000
what he said. That's that's the
game. And he's like, no,

588
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.960
you know, it's pretty important.
She says, come out on a test

589
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:15.199
for me. All right, sure, let's let's do this. So finally

590
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.039
we did it, and we went
out on our link up here and we

591
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.159
were able to do a ten mile
test and I sent the link to the

592
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.239
video to you to that today.
And I had that camera six inches off

593
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:31.679
the water, and he had his
laser light a foot off the water at

594
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:38.039
the other end, and dot laser
light was pinpoint right in the camera,

595
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:44.559
just right there. And I'm like, m And I'm a math teacher.

596
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.400
It's one of my main subjects.
And I tried to do the math once

597
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.559
and I gave up. And then
I did the test and I'm like,

598
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.559
okay, we're doing this. And
I took about an hour and I finally

599
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.880
got my bropped my head around and
I did the math and I'm like that

600
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:07.920
checks out. There's no way,
And anybody out there who's talking about refraction,

601
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.519
give me a break, Like,
I don't even know how you can

602
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.519
call yourself a lever of science or
a lever of math. Refraction doesn't even

603
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:22.840
remotely compensate for sixty six feet a
drop at ten miles. It doesn't even

604
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.320
come. You wouldn't even make a
foot. Come on, it's not going

605
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:32.039
to do it, no matter what
conditions you're talking about. So I'm like,

606
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.559
okay, that's that's definitely a problem. And so then I dived into

607
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.480
flat Earth and I've probably been researching
nothing else for the last few years because

608
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.119
I got Hendrew's book, and I
read Gleason's book, and I David wardlaw

609
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:52.480
Scott on. The biggest one is
Dean Odle. I love that guy.

610
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.480
I mean, he's he's got a
book in the prophetic movement too, so

611
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.880
that I love that. But his
book, As Clay Pressed to a Seal,

612
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:02.800
that's the best book I've read on
the subject because he brings it all

613
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:08.159
back to Jesus again. It's that's
the center of it all. He's the

614
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:15.079
center of it all. Denotos video
presentation on flat Earth is just phenomenal and

615
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.599
I just loved it. And so
I know you always ask, what are

616
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:24.360
the lynchpins? Well, we can
see too far. That's just that's game

617
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:30.599
over right there. We can see
too far, submarines, sonar radio waves,

618
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.800
line of sight weapons from the military
at one hundred miles. That just

619
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.280
throws everything out the window. For
Probably the other big one for me was

620
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:47.920
learning about pressurized atmosphere. There is
just nowhere you can have two gases of

621
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:55.000
different pressures next to each other and
not dissipitate in equal wise. There's just

622
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:02.000
no scientific, scientific evidence for that
anywhere. And that's the thing I loved

623
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.440
about flat Earth. I'm learning more
science than I've ever learned before in my

624
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:12.599
life. The knee on gas is
all shining at different colors when they get

625
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:17.239
eliminated by the sun. That's just
a beautiful one for me. The Aurora

626
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:24.639
Borealis one of the most significant experiences
of my life where God really made himself

627
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:30.039
real to me. Just I felt
like he really dived into my heart.

628
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.079
Was a knight. The Aurora Borealis
is out, and I just the only

629
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.440
thing I could say in my heart
again again, I never knew, I

630
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.239
never knew, I never knew,
And what I meant was his glory,

631
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.079
His majesty is awesomeness. And I
never knew anything about flat Earth at the

632
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:52.719
time. But the Aurora was just
dancing over my head that night, and

633
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:59.119
now I realize that now the aurora
is in Revelation four talks about the green

634
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:04.519
rainbow around the throne of God.
You know. Wow, you know it's

635
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.679
that magnetic mountain that lives at the
center of our creation. That's right,

636
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.840
that reaches up to Polaris. That's
what the aurora is. So when you

637
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:17.760
see the orlen hits everybody that's just
dancing around the throne of God. It's

638
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:23.760
his glory. So that that's a
significant connection for me because I didn't know

639
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.480
before then when I had that experience, and now that I do, I

640
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.679
can make that connection and that's a
beautiful one for me. Yeah, it

641
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:36.440
is. And it's funny because we
talk about Maker all the time that the

642
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.480
people who are not on Team God, who control the world, the magnetic

643
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:45.760
north Pole, the mountain itself is
called Rupus Nigra, which is also known

644
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:52.079
as black Rock, and who controls
up most of the world right now exactly.

645
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.119
And Mercator it said it's thirty three
French miles and side. So there's

646
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:05.960
your thirty three two So yeah,
amazing, yep. And you said that

647
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:09.880
was Revelation four. That's right.
The rainbow, Yeah, there's another person

648
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:15.320
I think in Isaiah or Jeremiah,
that might be Daniel. Where it brings

649
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:25.360
up the light around the throne.
Yeah, Revelation four three. Yeah,

650
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:30.599
that does really uh. And that
he sat was to look upon like a

651
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.719
jasper and a sardine stone, and
there was a rainbow around about the throne

652
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:42.480
in sight like untwo emerald. That's
amazing. Yeah. And you just had

653
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.159
to be standing there and all watching
this amazing. I was lying flat on

654
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:52.880
my on my back and on my
face. I couldn't stand up. Yeah.

655
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.199
You know, being in the in
the desert in Iraq is not really

656
00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:00.719
pleasurable. But what I will tell
you is because there's no light pollution and

657
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:06.599
a lot of those places you could
see the stars like nowhere else. Amazing.

658
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.960
Some of the nights we had there
when we weren't getting more dirted rocket.

659
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.159
One thing I've noticed out here is
just the naked eye. Some stars

660
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:21.199
are just incredible and they flash red, white and blue and sometimes you can

661
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:28.880
see it green in there, just
like that's pretty awesome. That is phenomenal.

662
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:32.920
Now I'm assuming and maybe I'm leaping
too far here, but your wife

663
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:40.440
on board. Now, when I
did the laser test and I came home

664
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.960
when I was doing the research and
I started bringing it up with her.

665
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.000
I have no explanation for it,
but she was like, yeah, that

666
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.079
makes sense. Every single rabbit hole
we've gone down, and we've gone down

667
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:57.719
together, and there's really been none
that we've really disagreed on it. It's

668
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:02.000
just always walking down together. And
it's been a really cool thing. Yeah.

669
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:05.599
When when I got on board,
she was right on board with me,

670
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.800
and it's really awesome. That's amazing. That's great to hear. And

671
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:15.119
have you had any luck sharing this
with family and friends in the community.

672
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:24.159
No, welcome to the club.
I was really excited when, like when

673
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.480
I was learning it and I had
a staff conference and I'm with my my

674
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:32.239
vice principal and his wife who's a
nurse, and I started sharing about James

675
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:37.079
Cook and uh, sixty five thousand
miles around not fine, and you know,

676
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:42.880
the perimeter of Antarctica and seeing too
far and etcetera, etcetera, and

677
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:46.639
a lot of nods and stairs,
and it just didn't get very far.

678
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.280
That was an early experience I got. We have a home church and got

679
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:58.760
some good buddies in there. One
guy listens and he's he's I think he's

680
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.079
going to come around. My other
friend, he's just a big skeptic.

681
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:07.519
He's still he still thinks nine to
eleven happened through terrorists. So it's but

682
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:09.400
he's such a good brother. He
loves a word of God so much.

683
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:16.360
I just wish he'd he wasn't such
a skeptic sometimes about conspiracy stuff. But

684
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:22.079
his wife is a flat earth and
she's a yeah, and she's a student

685
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:25.239
of the word, like she's always
in the this Hebrew word means that,

686
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:29.519
and this Greek word means that,
and she knows that rakiya means and she

687
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:35.519
knows what like the Amos four versus
about the vaulted the vaulted dome, but

688
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:40.880
they just completely disagree on it.
So but as far as convincing anybody myself,

689
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.039
No, I found people you don't
have conversations and I'll look at them

690
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:50.480
and go flat around and they're like
flat like, and then we go down

691
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:57.199
the conversation. But not anybody.
I have one friend in Kelowna, and

692
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.719
I brought it up to him one
time and and we didn't talk that much

693
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:05.599
after that. You know, we're
kind of reconnecting again. But the conversations

694
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.159
that happened periodically, they kind of
stopped for a bit, so I got

695
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:13.719
gotta do a big, flat out
no. Yeah, it is difficult,

696
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.679
and that is a million dollar question. I get emails and people saying,

697
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:20.440
hey, can you call me.
I just there's somebody very important in my

698
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:22.440
life that I'm trying to wake up
and I just can't do it. And

699
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:28.039
that is you know, I've learned
less is more. The two big things

700
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.519
that I tell people is less is
more and they just have to be ready

701
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:35.880
to accept the information. Yeah,
and I learned that. That was one

702
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:39.079
of the first things I learned about
flat earth because after I woke up in

703
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:45.559
my little two weeks of I guess
like a locust losing its shell, right,

704
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:50.039
Askato losing its shell? And then
I was a new guy and realized

705
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.400
everything. I was excited, like
you, and I wanted to share it

706
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:53.599
with people, and they're like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, mister crazy

707
00:55:53.679 --> 00:56:00.480
pants, what are you talking about? Yeah, and it reality punches you

708
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.840
in the face really quick. Yeah. I want to learn to I want

709
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:07.159
to get better at the Socratic method. I'm really trying to incorporate that into

710
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.800
a lot of what I do.
Just ask questions. Yep, yes,

711
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:15.920
try to get You had a guest
recently to talk about just kind of setting

712
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.199
something in there and letting them go
you on it and turn on it,

713
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.239
And I really think that's the best
way. One of my favorite questions is

714
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:27.000
what scientific proof do you have that
you're at the spinning? You know,

715
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:31.639
can you do you have any evidence
for that other than NASSA? Right?

716
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.960
Yeah, yeah, And I thought
more people would That's a great one.

717
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.280
Yeah, it is. It is. I thought more people would come around

718
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:45.400
after the COVID thing, because you
know that little rumor story the other day

719
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:50.920
talking about that down here, Biden's
talking about bringing back mask mandates, and

720
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:52.920
you know, I'm telling people they
got to get the vaccine again. So

721
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:58.679
I've seen on you know, even
social media that the normalist of normies of

722
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:00.760
people, I know, we're saying, I'm it's not going to do it.

723
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:06.800
But once again and again, it
really speaks to the level and how

724
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:10.800
much effort they put into the propaganda
into making it such a stigma. Is

725
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.880
I mean, just flat earth is
I mean, if I don't know what

726
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:21.519
percent what what what percent of people
just in North America or whatever, would

727
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:24.239
you say are hip to flat Earth? Is it one percent? Five percent

728
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:30.280
less than one percent? Oh,
I don't know. I know Dave Weiss

729
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:35.280
and Mark are way more in the
game on that than than I am.

730
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.519
And they say it keeps growing.
I think they're right, it is growing.

731
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:40.800
They're not going to be They're not
going to be able to hide it

732
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:51.199
forever. Our technology is outrun their
lives, right. Indeed, I think

733
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.679
that I meant that Indian. Yes, I said that India video. But

734
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:58.280
your friends of mine this, I
said it to the skeptics. By the

735
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:00.800
way, the skeptics haven't replied.
But you know, my one friend,

736
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.559
she she just emailed back as you
had. Wow. She was just hysterical

737
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.639
about it. That's ridiculous, and
it is. It's completely ridiculous. I

738
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:14.159
don't know. Why don't they spend
more money on CGI for I don't I

739
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.840
don't get that. I don't get
that. I think part of it in

740
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.960
the Indias go ahead. I'm sorry. India's a pretty good computer India's a

741
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.880
pretty good computer country. I mean
that's they got graphics, guys are Yeah,

742
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:31.920
I don't get that was cringe between
the Atari twenty six hundred level video

743
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.519
and that. I don't know if
it's their prime minister. What's sitting there

744
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:45.079
with a fake smile waving their flag? It was so cringe. They're laughing

745
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.639
at us. The friend that got
me into flod Earth. He thinks they

746
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:53.599
do this on purpose, you know, just trying to make us wake up.

747
00:58:54.639 --> 00:59:00.239
I don't know. He might be
right, like daring us. Yeah,

748
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:06.480
like just how far? How far
away can they get? With and

749
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:13.559
still the lemmings remain lemmings. He
might have a point, for lack of

750
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:17.119
a better word, where do you
find flat Earth in the realm of conspiracies?

751
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:23.320
Number one? Number two? Number
three? Oh it's number one.

752
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:30.800
Yeah, I mean we're talking about
we're talking about the creational world, the

753
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:37.639
end the greatest engineering task of of
eternity. Well I shouldn't say eternity.

754
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:42.039
I don't know what God's got for
us, but of this time and space.

755
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:47.199
This is the engineering marvel, this
beautiful, glorious terrarium we live in.

756
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.920
I love what the guy wrote,
Doctrine of the Flat Earth. Starting

757
00:59:52.920 --> 01:00:00.559
to read that what's his name again? Okay? He mentions it beginning there

758
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:05.800
that every engineering feed needs a foundation's
right, So what's the foundation the foundation

759
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.800
of this of this place? With
it and Jesus is a cornerstone, and

760
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:15.519
that just to me, that's that's
awesome. So what's the foundation of a

761
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:22.599
heliocentric, spinning, combobulated universe.
What's what's the foundation of that thing?

762
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:30.000
Gravity? Is that your foundation?
I don't know what else there would be

763
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:36.920
for So the greatest engineer of all
time makes the foundation gravity. That doesn't

764
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.679
fit with this character. And here's
the other one that I've mentioned to my

765
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:46.760
friends when I'm trying to convince them. It's seems to me a pretty imp

766
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:54.800
It's a fact that the biblical model
is fat. The Israelites believe the earth

767
01:00:54.920 --> 01:01:00.760
is flat with a dome. Every
ancient civilization believed that that. I don't

768
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:05.239
know how you could say that that
isn't the truth. Okay, so this

769
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.599
is the main viewpoint, and I
think Yser even comes out kind of this

770
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:14.800
point a little bit. God allowed
them to believe that way because they weren't

771
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:19.760
ready for the true nature of the
universe. So the God of the universe

772
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.760
allowed them to believe a lie forever, and then when we were ready,

773
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:24.599
he kind of okay, well,
this is really what the world's like.

774
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:30.800
Does that meet the character of God? Is he in the deception and falsity,

775
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:37.039
and we're just not mature enough before
he actually lied, he allows them

776
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:42.280
to believe a lie that doesn't fit. No, that doesn't sound like him.

777
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.079
That's not the god I worship.
I don't know, that's my point

778
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.079
on that one. Yeah. And
like you were saying, all the ancient

779
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.119
civilizations, and I use ancient loosely
because a lot of people think that we're

780
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:58.119
so much smarter now today. Well, we may be more industrialized and technologically

781
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:00.679
advanced, but the people we're more
in touch with the world back in the

782
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:04.360
day. And you're talking about the
Mayans, the Navajos, the Inca's,

783
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.920
Norse, Celtic, Chinese, Egyptians, Hebrews. They all knew that we

784
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:14.880
were on a flat plane with the
firmament over top of us. Go study

785
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:21.039
ancient architecture and then tell me they
were dumb, right, you know those

786
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.679
stones I can't pronounce a nameto,
whatt coon or something. Yeah, And

787
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:30.840
then Marzili has been there, these
stones six feet wide, fitting like a

788
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:36.079
glove with little handholders, handholds,
it looks like in the side or something

789
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:40.719
like that. Come on, it's
like unbelievable architecture. And then they fit

790
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:45.519
to the stars and are aligned,
and the Great Pyramid of Egypt has never

791
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:51.400
moved. Yeah, just amazing,
amazing stuff. And then you know,

792
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.679
Nephelim kind of fits in a thought. That's what I was just going to

793
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:59.239
ask you. I've heard a lot
of people say that recently that the Nephelim

794
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.480
because the Egyptian story doesn't really make
any sense, right, that that seems

795
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:07.719
fabricated, a mean, slaves,
slaves building the pyramids. Oh well,

796
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:09.960
as far as that, I've heard
a lot of people say recently they believe

797
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:15.440
the Nephelim were the ones who built
the pyramids. I think so. I

798
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:17.599
think the Great Pyramids different. There's
something about that. There's a book I

799
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:23.000
have here that the author believes a
great pyramid was built by Seth and an

800
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:29.679
Enoch really down in that time.
Yeah, the Great Pyramid has no hieroglyphics

801
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:35.679
on it. It has encoded within
it all kinds of mathematics, which is

802
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:39.280
just amazing. It's still a line
to true North. It seems like a

803
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:45.800
different type of pyramid and diverse that
he uses. I don't I didn't do

804
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:52.079
researching this for the interview, but
sure there's a god set a sentinel or

805
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.159
something at the edge of a certain
area of land, and he uses that

806
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:03.199
to say that that is probably the
Great Pyramid, but I don't know it's

807
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:09.000
it's it's possible. That's interesting.
Yeah, I found I've been a little

808
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:14.920
uh something from Sacred text dot com
here about the Miracle Stone and the Great

809
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:18.639
Pyramids Seth and Enoch. That's interesting. I'll have to look into that.

810
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:21.159
I got every time, I'll send
it. I'll send you the look the

811
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.360
book later. Yeah, that would
be great, Thank you so much.

812
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.880
Well so so I'd love to talk
about songs chapter two, let's do it,

813
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:38.159
Kase, why the lie right?
And another one one? Another thing

814
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:42.559
you like to ask is on before
I forget. The reason I love your

815
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:48.320
podcast so much right now is uh
because it's people given their testimonies and their

816
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:53.960
stories. And I just love hearing
everybody's story and everybody's testimony and when God's

817
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.559
doing in their lives. Uh.
To me, I just find that just

818
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:00.559
so much fun. There's something very
energizing about that. And then there's at

819
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.320
verse rate they overcame him by the
blood of the lamb and the word of

820
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:09.639
their testimony. So I think that's
what's refreshing and I think that's what's going

821
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:13.800
to keep this going as long as
God wants it to, because you're not

822
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:15.880
going to run it a story,
s George, I know, trust me

823
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:18.199
him. I'm looking at my board
the waiting list. There's a lot of

824
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:23.360
people who want to tell their story. And it's obviously touching a lot of

825
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.440
people the same way, like you
said, because people want to come and

826
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:30.119
give their testimony, and it's it's
just great that every episode is a little

827
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:34.840
different, and I've learned from every
single episode. I've learned a little something

828
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:39.960
from everyone, so it's been great. Yeah, I mean, we can

829
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.480
just encourage each other. Been so
encouraged. I wish I could go back

830
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:46.000
through all the episodes and just speak
to everybody out there the things that they

831
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:54.800
did that encourage me. Psalms too, Why does it escape me right now?

832
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:00.199
Is it particular? Well? I
call Psalms to the Oxyomatic chapter the

833
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:05.840
whole Bible. I think all of
human history hinges on this chapter. It

834
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:10.920
starts with why do the heathen rage? And the people imagine a vain thing?

835
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.599
Yeah, exactly why do the heathen
or why do the nations? I

836
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:19.559
like to amplified, why do the
nations assemble with commotion, and why do

837
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:25.599
the people imagine an empty scheme?
The kings of the earth take their places?

838
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.719
And who are these kings? I
wonder? The rulers take counsel together

839
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:34.679
against the Lord and against his anointed
one, saying, let us break their

840
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:41.280
bands asunder and cast their chords from
us. So fat earth, what are

841
01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:45.960
the chords? In order? The
bands, operation, fish bowl, etcetera,

842
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:53.840
etcetera. Right there, all of
human history, I think, I

843
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:59.199
think we go, who are they? The chief religion on the other side

844
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.159
is nastiss him, and even I
think deeper than that is Kabbalah. And

845
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:09.360
from my study, I think Cabala
goes right back to Kane. Kane was

846
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.480
the rebel right, and then the
Mason's talk about two ball and a cane

847
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:17.280
and all the things that emerge out
of that and what they're learning, and

848
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:24.400
I think Solomon probably put all of
that together. But they are not.

849
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:30.920
They hate God. They hate him
with every fiber of their being, and

850
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:34.920
they hate his son and everything about
him. And that's why they mock him,

851
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:40.639
and that's why he's His name is
a swear words. That's why when

852
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.400
he comes back in revelation and all
the Earth will see him. Is that

853
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:48.920
the whole Earth points their weapons at
him, and it's like here he is

854
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:55.559
now, and this is what Lucifer
is doing. I believe he's building Babbel

855
01:07:55.599 --> 01:08:00.440
two point er because Babbel two point
one or one point oh didn't work very

856
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.719
well. So he's got a new
plan, a new way. He's building

857
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:08.840
another tower because he wants to break
out. He's not willing to God loves

858
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:12.920
judgment. He's not willing to have
that narrow path that left and that right,

859
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:16.439
that good and that bad. He
wants chaos. He wants to do

860
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:23.640
whatever the hell he wants, right, that's right. So yeah, nastissism.

861
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:28.199
In nacissism, the creator of the
world is a demi urge, and

862
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:32.119
the demi urge is a stupid god. He's an insane god. He's a

863
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.680
bit of looped in the head and
he doesn't really know what he's doing.

864
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:39.840
And outside of him, beyond him, there's these better gods and these more

865
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:45.079
glorious gods. And so they teach
that if we can just have the right

866
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:50.520
nosis, the right illumination, that
we can actually get out and now do

867
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:55.760
what we want, and we don't
have to be constrained by this notion of

868
01:08:55.880 --> 01:09:00.319
good and evil, or man and
woman that has been inflicted upon us.

869
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:06.479
So they conspire together, and the
Lord in heaven laughs, and you shall

870
01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:11.960
cast him into derision. And and
then it talks here, Yet have I

871
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.000
anointed my king on my holy hill
of Zion, which I think is the

872
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:19.159
magnetic mountain, And I will declare
the decree of the Lord. He said

873
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:24.119
to me, you or my son, this day? Have I begotten?

874
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:28.039
You? Ask of me, and
I'll give you the nations as your inheritance,

875
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:32.960
in the uttermost parts of the earth
for your possession. So have you

876
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:39.479
ever, what is your opinion?
George on For God so love the world

877
01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:42.640
that he gave his only begotten son, How does the son get begotten?

878
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:46.960
That's interesting, That's that's a hard
question, it is, and I've had

879
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:55.039
I've had email conversations with people that
are very passionate about this particular subject.

880
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:00.680
Right, if you look at the
literary you know explanation for it, it

881
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:06.680
is, you know, bringing a
child into existence by the process of reproduction.

882
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:12.680
Right, but obviously you know that's
you know, Jesus came through you

883
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.479
know, a virgin vessel. Not
uh, it wasn't produced as every other

884
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:21.720
human being on this earth has been
produced. And that's what's so amazing about

885
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:26.359
the Bible. You could you could
ask a hundred people to sit down and

886
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:30.319
read a chapter and there's a chance
you'll get fifty years, sixty different explanations

887
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:35.039
on what it means to them and
how it's read. Yeah, but there's

888
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:42.159
layers of onions. Right, we
can going deeper and deeper amazing, but

889
01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:44.640
we need each other. We need
each other on that point or else we

890
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:51.279
get let off into delusion. Yes, sir, so, I I mean

891
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:58.079
I I'm not convinced, but chewed
on this a lot. What does it

892
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:00.640
mean to be be gotten? And
we were talking about it at home church

893
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:05.760
of their day and debating this back
and forth. I this is my theory,

894
01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:11.520
my working theory, right. I
think the godden is when the God

895
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:17.359
had decided on this creation. There
you have the Trinity. And I'm a

896
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:26.000
firm believer in the Trinity for lots
of good reasons. They're fully content in

897
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:30.600
themselves, they're fully happy and fully
at peace, but they're fully full of

898
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.319
love, and love wants to share, and love wants to grow, and

899
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:42.159
one wants to build and there's just
this desire to have family and to share

900
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:45.199
what they had to grow family.
I mean that's kind of this desires in

901
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.640
us too. I mean, it's
so natural for humans to want children.

902
01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:55.279
So what does it take for God
to have children for them to become part

903
01:11:55.439 --> 01:12:00.680
of a perfect, holy, infinite
God. You can't just I mean a

904
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:02.399
lot of people to steery, like
why does God allow evil in the world?

905
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.560
Why does God do this? Why
does I do that? You can't

906
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:09.520
just make people and say okay,
now you're part of the family. Because

907
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:15.000
these created beings aren't They don't have
the nature of God. And then you

908
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:21.000
have you know, Adam and Eve
and they fall right, So what does

909
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:25.920
it take for us to become part
of that? I think, you know,

910
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:29.159
the Lamb of God was slain before
the foundation of the world. There

911
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:33.279
was an understanding of what would happen, so he was needed in order to

912
01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:39.479
have us, you know, for
the joy set before him. He endured

913
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:43.920
the cross, and that joy was
us, That joy was his children.

914
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:48.279
So we get this time and space
thing where we fell and fall into sin.

915
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:51.840
But he loved us so much he
wasn't willing to abandon us. He

916
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:58.760
wasn't willing to let us go,
so he came. But I think that's

917
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:02.479
when the Begotten part. But it
was a kind of a decision in the

918
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:09.359
Godhead that Christ was going to be
needed in order to to achieve this plan.

919
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:13.079
I don't know, what do you
think about it. It's quite viable

920
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:18.079
explanation, it certainly is. And
the Trinity, it's very interesting you mentioned

921
01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:24.199
that that has been quite a hot
topic recently. Yeah, that the podcast

922
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:28.319
here, and I get dozens at
emails and addition that I don't share on

923
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:30.560
the air, But I will tell
you that Michelle, who was a guest

924
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.760
back in I think May, she
wrote a substack recently that if I'll try

925
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:38.239
to remember and put it in the
show description, that she really hits it

926
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:43.479
on the head about the explanation of
the Trinity and the Godhead and the importance

927
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:48.880
of it and not everything that we
talk about it is in the Bible verbatim,

928
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:54.359
right, and she really explains it
really well. Well, there's a

929
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:57.960
few points I have in that Jesus
said, it's deedful for you that I

930
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.760
go away, because if I don't
go away, I can't send the comforter.

931
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:03.880
And he will lead you and he
will teach you, and he will

932
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:08.520
guide you, and he will be
your advocate. And the word paraclet and

933
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:13.399
jer and Greek is just an amazing
word. If you guys haven't gone out,

934
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:15.560
look at the word periclet and then
you're like study that word, like

935
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:20.439
that's the Holy Spirit is to me, to us, So just just amazing.

936
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:24.960
And then the other thing I see
about the teaching that there is no

937
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:30.119
trinity is and what does Jesus become
if there's no trinity, because usually at

938
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:35.079
least the God being the Father and
then sending this lesser being who's higher than

939
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:42.079
us to earth, well, it
seems to lend to a theology where Jesus

940
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:45.520
is not equal to God, or
it wasn't always equal to God, that

941
01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:49.039
the full divinity isn't there. But
that's not biblical. We all know that.

942
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:56.560
So it's pretty scriptural that Jesus is
God, there's divinity is there.

943
01:14:56.720 --> 01:15:01.880
We have the Holy Spirit and Jesus
said he's going to send him to replace

944
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:08.479
him. The Holy Spirit replaces Jesus
for us. So those are two examples

945
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:12.800
for me of how, yeah,
we have it, we have a trinity.

946
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:15.560
I had this thought the other day
too, and again I'm not one

947
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:19.600
hundred percent fixed on this one either. But and I really want to get

948
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:26.279
into this before we end up here, what is the nature of who we

949
01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:30.760
are as people? Because we are
entering into and this gets into rust isn't

950
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:34.600
our stuff? We are entering into
the darkest time in history, Yes,

951
01:15:35.119 --> 01:15:43.760
undoubtedly, and we're we could get
into like the transhumanism and the mk ultra

952
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:46.640
stuff and rusted his star. He's
like got millions of people out there who

953
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:51.600
are demonized, and the church isn't
ready. We are not ready for the

954
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:56.319
amount of evil that is going to
be unleashed on this world. Unvest We're

955
01:15:56.319 --> 01:16:00.520
starting to spend time with him and
we start to understand our real spirit warfare

956
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:08.000
is Oh, I lost my thought? Why you try to remember? I

957
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.479
just wanted to mention you really,
Yeah, you hit something on the head

958
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:16.199
just about two or three minutes ago. So parically it's translated as like you

959
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:21.760
said, comforter or counselor. Also
I think it translates as paracletos, And

960
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:29.880
it is very interesting where it says
the counselor or the paraclete is God,

961
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.960
the Holy Spirit, the third person
of the Trinity, who's been called by

962
01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:39.159
our side or called to our side, I should say, yeah, yeah,

963
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:41.479
it's a thick, thick word.
Yeah it is. Well. So

964
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:45.319
God made Adam out of the soil, He made him out of clay and

965
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:50.199
dirty, and it says God breathing
him numa his breath. That's spirit.

966
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:55.399
So God's spirit entered into the clay, and it says, and Adam became

967
01:16:55.439 --> 01:17:00.600
a living soul. So we are
body, soul and spirit, and this

968
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:08.520
is this is huge and that really
really want to encourage anybody who's sensing anything.

969
01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:13.079
You think this is into you study
gg Member or It's earliest ages.

970
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:17.720
Jesse Penn Lewis, I'll send you
atlant to her book to Watch My Knees,

971
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:21.840
Latent Power of the Soul, and
Andrew Murray The Spirit of Christ.

972
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:27.319
All four of those authors get into
spirit, soul, and body and what

973
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:31.399
we are as people. And this
gets into why does the dark side care?

974
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:33.960
Why do they care about people?
Why are they always on us?

975
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:38.920
Why do they want to inhabit us? Why do they want to attack us?

976
01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:41.800
Where do they want to use us? What is this all about?

977
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:47.359
And Knees Watch him N's book The
Latent Power of the Soul, I think

978
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:51.560
is essential, absolutely essential reading for
these times, and he actually says it

979
01:17:51.680 --> 01:18:00.760
in his book I had the quote
here, Okay. He basically says that

980
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:04.920
he feels that this is necessary information
for spiritual warfare, and he uses the

981
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:13.359
phrase at the end of the age. The feeling exists is that when Adam

982
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:18.000
fell, there were certain powers that
Adam had, He says, to have

983
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.279
dominion over the earth, and he
spends a lot of time talking about this

984
01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:28.800
at latent part of the soul he
had. He had to have certain abilities

985
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:32.439
in order to have dominion over the
earth. But when he fell, God

986
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:35.960
didn't remove those abilities from him.
He made them latent. He kind of

987
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:43.000
capt them, He preserved them within
us. Every religion on the earth tries

988
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:49.520
to tap into these abilities, whether
a whirling dervish or a guru or or

989
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:58.640
any armistic there's this, there's this
feeling this you go through rituals or whatever

990
01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:00.680
you need to do to buy I
passed the body and get to the soul.

991
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:05.119
You know. The first one of
the first skills in the New Age

992
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:10.199
that you're trying that is often taught
as astral projection. Oh you can astral

993
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:13.520
project you can go anywhere. And
the army actually teaches us they call it

994
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:20.560
remote viewing, So what's what's going
on there? What is that? These

995
01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:26.760
are what NI calls them soul power. He goes there tons of examples.

996
01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.840
He talks about people who can freeze
water with their mind, people who can

997
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:36.199
find hidden objects in a room,
prophesy, even events in the future.

998
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:42.000
And I was always talking growing up
these are just demonic powers, and there's

999
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.600
some truth that there's some help.
But NI basically says that these are soul

1000
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:49.560
powers. These are things that we
can actually do and get into. But

1001
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:56.560
because the Bible says that our flesh
is at enmity with God, our flesh

1002
01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:59.439
hates God, that's where sin resides. It resides in these flesh, and

1003
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:03.479
that's when we when Jesus comes back, we're going to get new bodies.

1004
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:06.239
At the end of time, it's
going to be the end of all flesh.

1005
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:10.199
Those things, all the heavens and
earth to get are wrapped up all

1006
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.279
the way and we're going to get
it a different body because the sins are

1007
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.960
wrapped up in it. So right
now where we are, sin resides in

1008
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:21.239
these bodies of flesh. And then
when you're before you're born again, your

1009
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:27.319
spirit is dead nothing, and it's
our spirit that communicates with God. That's

1010
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:31.239
where the communication realizes. It's our
spirit to His spirit, and he says

1011
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:35.399
that's where life comes from. Life
has to come from His Spirit through our

1012
01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:39.680
spirit to people. So we're not
going to be able to help people if

1013
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:43.960
it's not spirit to spirit. But
when we try to do things with soul,

1014
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:49.279
and that's where this prophetic movement in
the church is so awry and so

1015
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:57.920
unhealthy and so demonic in my opinion, what's going on in these churches and

1016
01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:01.800
Denotal gets into he wrote a book
about it. And Andrew's Strom also wrote

1017
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:04.800
a book Andrew Strom is in the
prophetic movement. When he started, it's

1018
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:13.039
Kundalini, it's a it's the experiences
are basically the same. There's demonic possession

1019
01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:16.199
going on, you've got gold dust
falling from the sky or even prophecy.

1020
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:20.520
It's all soul. So needs premise
of this book as this is that if

1021
01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:25.279
we want to be a mature Christians, if we want to have an impact

1022
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:29.000
in the world today, if we
want to do real spiritual warfare, we

1023
01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:32.239
have to allow ourselves to die,
to take up our cross daily, to

1024
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:35.600
allow ourselves to be pruned, to
allow it to go through these times of

1025
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:41.399
pain and discomfort and suffering and allow
God to do what he needs to do

1026
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:45.279
in us, so that every day
we die, we die daily, we

1027
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.800
die more, and we learn to
walk in the spirit, with His spirit

1028
01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:53.520
and everything that we do, because
we're not going to be able to walk

1029
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:57.279
by the knowledge of good evil anymore, not with what's coming down the pipe,

1030
01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:00.439
not with the a little evil that's
happening. We're gonna have to know

1031
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:05.039
instantaneously exactly what God wants to do
and be in constant communicating and practice that

1032
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:09.039
now. And what does that look
like? And what does that feel like?

1033
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:15.119
To in like a Frank bolotox,
be a reservoir, not a canal,

1034
01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:18.920
to be filled with Him all the
time, and to be able to

1035
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:25.479
outflow from our reservoir out to wherever
we go. So I I want to

1036
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.159
ask and encourage everybody, how much
have you died today? How much you

1037
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:31.640
allowing your souls to die and allowing
God to do his work in you.

1038
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:36.439
I think we try too hard sometimes, And when I was in home church,

1039
01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:41.399
I actually swore on once where right
now? But we try too hard

1040
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:49.119
to do good, to change the
world instead of just instead of just walking

1041
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:56.600
with God in the cool of the
garden. How he wants us to Yeah,

1042
01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:00.479
really well said, and I know
I've meant it before. But the

1043
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:03.760
people who are trying to lead us
away from God, they want you to

1044
01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:09.039
believe that that Adam and Eve were
the victim, and God had these people

1045
01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:14.399
trapped and wanted the knowledge for himself. And it's everything is inverted. That's

1046
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:16.560
why you look at the Freemasons or
the Illuminati. They've got the black and

1047
01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:23.159
white checkerboard floors. That's why they
push trans that the trans agenda. Everything

1048
01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:29.119
is inverted. A couple things in
reflection of what you just said. I'll

1049
01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:32.359
put this in the show description as
well. Pastor Odel has a great series.

1050
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.760
I haven't caught part three yet.
I hope to tonight or tomorrow.

1051
01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:41.560
But it's an Eschatology, the Great
End Time Delusion. The first two parts

1052
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:44.880
were amazing. Part three drop last
night. Please check them out. I'll

1053
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:47.960
put him in the show description.
It's amazing how he is basically saying,

1054
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:53.159
hey, be aware because they're probably
going to do a Project Blue Beam type

1055
01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:55.479
of thing, and they want people. You know, when Jesus does come

1056
01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:58.399
back to think that, you know, he's the bad guy and he talks

1057
01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:00.680
about the pope. It's just really
credible how he puts these things together,

1058
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:05.960
excuse me to together and delivers the
message he's awesome. They hate him,

1059
01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:14.439
They hate him with a passion.
Yeah yeah, So what do they want

1060
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:16.760
to do? Like how are they
using us? Right? I look at

1061
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:21.840
virtual reality or are these our cell
phones? Like you said, the constant

1062
01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:27.319
goal is to that getting people to
sin. The more they can get us

1063
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.920
to sin, the more power they
have. Ye. So sin, sin

1064
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:35.279
breeds on sin, breeds on sin, which leads to iniquity. And if

1065
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:39.560
we the more we learn to forgive, Like look at Jesus and Stephen,

1066
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:44.840
Father, forgive them the greatest sin
in history. And Jesus's father, please

1067
01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:47.079
forgive them. He took the power
of that sin and he cut it right

1068
01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:50.920
there. That sin was not able
to move on and build up because he

1069
01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:55.560
cut it right there. And that's
what we all need to practice. I

1070
01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:59.640
think that's one of the first rules
of spiritual warfare. When when somebody hurts

1071
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:04.239
us we see hurt, we can
forgive what's going on around us, somebody

1072
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:06.880
that's where haunted. How's this coming
from, by the way, you know,

1073
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:12.399
paranormal experiences, some great sin has
been performed, and so the enemy

1074
01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:15.039
comes in, is able to infest
that place. You go in and you

1075
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:18.319
forgive that sin, you ask God
to forgive it. That power is broken

1076
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:24.279
right there, right then, Yeah, and they don't hide it anymore,

1077
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:26.800
like I all we say right during
during COVID, you know, all the

1078
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:30.720
mom and pop stores they were not
essential, but your liquor stores and your

1079
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:35.199
dispensaries remained open. And it's easier
to find porn on your computer than it

1080
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:40.239
is any truth on flat earth because
they're getting us to sin. That's a

1081
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:45.520
fact. Absolutely, Yeah. And
virtual reality. What's the first thing people

1082
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:47.800
are doing in virtuality? They're making
porn. They're making porn, a eyes

1083
01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:53.720
porn, Jot Watts if it's just
kind of but it's like West World,

1084
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:56.439
right, it doesn't matter what I
do inside there, it's not. No,

1085
01:25:56.600 --> 01:25:59.840
you're sitting, that's right. You're
gonna You're gonna go in this virtuality

1086
01:25:59.880 --> 01:26:00.920
and sin. You don't think that's
going to have an impact. No,

1087
01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:06.960
you're building. You're building what Michael
Lake likes to talk iniquity force, building

1088
01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:15.079
up that iniquity force all around us. Indeed, Yeah, ten minutes left,

1089
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.039
I need to try to get down
these last three things. Yeah.

1090
01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:23.119
Number one is do you think the
people that are on the world stage,

1091
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:27.720
do you think they truly understand what
they're getting into? And do they realize

1092
01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:30.159
that while they may harvest the power
here on earth, what awaits them at

1093
01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:34.359
the end of the game. Which
people exactly I'm talking to people who bend

1094
01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:38.399
their need of Satan and are given
worldly goods. The people who run the

1095
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:40.439
world, the people at the top
of the food change, whether it be

1096
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:44.800
the roth Child's, the Rockefeller that, the people who are obviously in Caho's

1097
01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:47.439
with Satan, the people you know
at the top that is encouraging all this

1098
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:53.199
eabil to happen. I don't I
don't think Lucifer knows what he's got himself

1099
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:58.680
into. I'm convinced he's a father
of lies. He's actually convinced himself that

1100
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:02.319
he's deluded. He believes he can
win, and he's convinced all his minions

1101
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:05.600
around him that they're going to win. So they're all walking in the delusion

1102
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:11.359
together. So I think I think
these people at the talk they actually think,

1103
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:15.920
no, we're going to do it
this time. Like I believe in

1104
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:19.239
this Internet, this tower Babble two
point zero is that human beings like we

1105
01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:24.159
are the bricks in the pyramid,
like on the Great Seal of the United

1106
01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:28.399
States. Like the first European Union
poster. If you watch that, the

1107
01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:32.800
people or the bricks walking around,
and in ancient times, they'll actually take

1108
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:36.439
babies and they put him in the
bricks, you know, they sacrifice people

1109
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:42.279
and put him in the bricks of
the wall. So we are the source.

1110
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:47.239
There's something matrix like about what's being
built where our soul power becomes the

1111
01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:53.119
energy behind what they're doing. So
they actually think that, oh, this

1112
01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.760
is gonna this is going to be
the right one. It's gonna work the

1113
01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:59.039
side. We're going to break through
and overthrow the god at the universe,

1114
01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:01.560
like in the book A Sure right, they broke up into three different groups,

1115
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.720
and we're going to overthrow this and
you guys gonna take on the angels

1116
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:12.680
indeed, And they're deluded, they're
deluded, indeed. And there's also another

1117
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:15.920
poster that I recall when the European
Union was that in the nineties when they

1118
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:19.239
kind of started kicking things off.
We're eighties nineties with a European Union.

1119
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:23.159
I think that was that was the
eighties, I think eighties. There's also

1120
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:27.359
a poster I recall that had eleven
stars. Eleven is a very powerful number

1121
01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:30.680
to them, hence eleven, twenty
two, sixty three, and nine eleven,

1122
01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:36.520
but it's eleven stars. And then
underneath of it something very very reminiscent

1123
01:28:36.560 --> 01:28:41.640
of the Tower of Babbel being built. Oh probably, yeah, yeah,

1124
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:46.920
they probably look at it with nostalgia, right, Nimrod. You know they

1125
01:28:47.039 --> 01:28:53.159
almost succeeded. Let's do it again. Yeah. I do remember that German

1126
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.119
poster with the people being part of
it as well. That's uh, I

1127
01:28:56.199 --> 01:29:00.319
do recall that. Man, there
was something else I wanted to say,

1128
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:03.960
Oh, George, come on,
Oh, I know it's fits hard that

1129
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:08.359
I watched my train of thought several
times. Do you want to talk a

1130
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:14.079
little bit about the numbers that you
sent? I could just mention it if

1131
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:20.039
you want. But they leave their
signature, right, they leave their signature

1132
01:29:20.039 --> 01:29:25.439
everywhere. We've probably all seen as
meme about all the six six sixes and

1133
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:30.199
everything, and I just wanted to
take some time to actually do the proof

1134
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:34.319
of where the six six sixes in
the space math come from. So I

1135
01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:39.199
put together a document and you can
share in the links, and there's here

1136
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:43.640
six there or six everywhere, six
six six. I think one of the

1137
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:47.880
neatest things I found in there was
nautical miles. I never really knew it

1138
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:54.359
nautical miles before, but a nautical
mile, the math of it is based

1139
01:29:54.439 --> 01:30:00.279
on the curvature or the Earth.
I had no idea. So there's two

1140
01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.479
numbers in there that are based on
nautical miles. Once the speed of sound,

1141
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:10.199
and the speed of sound has to
do with the temperature, and so

1142
01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:15.039
when the temperature is sixty six point
six degrees fahrenheit, then sound moves at

1143
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:21.560
sixty six hundred and sixty six knots, and a knot is based on a

1144
01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:26.680
nautical miles. Just you can't make
this stuff up. It's just like holy

1145
01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:30.960
moly. Indeed, and that that
link will be in the show description as

1146
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.279
well. Folks, it's really interesting. Make sure you check that out.

1147
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:34.920
And you said, you know the
tower, Babbel one point zero, the

1148
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:39.079
people two point zero. Where does
NASA fall in there? Do you think

1149
01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:42.079
they're actually is that just simply a
distraction or do you think there's a more

1150
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:50.039
nefarious use of NASA they're just propaganda
arm Like what are they really accomplishing.

1151
01:30:54.039 --> 01:30:59.039
They're just a propaganda arm to keep
us deceived. The real power is going

1152
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:06.079
on behind the scene with the sin. Yeah, the more the more sin

1153
01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:11.319
that happens, we all we all
get the propaganda game, the Edward Burneese

1154
01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:16.560
thing that's going on, to the
sheep, the lemmings. It's just a

1155
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:20.359
world of lies we love. Yeah, you know, like the flat earth

1156
01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:27.359
being a chief conspiracy. It's just
like when when we get that and everything

1157
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:33.159
is just like everything is a lie. I want to know truth. Truth

1158
01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:40.479
as a name, and his name
is Jesus. Amen. Let's close for

1159
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:44.840
these last few minutes. Tell us
a little bit about your home school and

1160
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:48.840
kind of what you're using for curriculum, and have you implemented flat earth into

1161
01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:55.880
it? No, not yet.
If anybody out there wants to work with

1162
01:31:56.039 --> 01:31:59.079
me on a flat earth curriculum,
I would love to do. That might

1163
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.359
be a long project, but it
would be collaborative and that would be a

1164
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:06.600
ton of fun. I would really
really enjoy that. I would probably use

1165
01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:11.760
a Charlotte Mason type method where we
have a bunch of living books, which

1166
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:15.479
we've mentioned already, and then kind
of spring off it there and try to

1167
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:19.720
develop some because the great thing about
flat Earth is a science is so simple

1168
01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:24.640
and it can all be done in
your in your home, So that would

1169
01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:30.119
be that would be neat. Homeschooling
is a whole another great conversation we go

1170
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:33.680
on for hours. My hero is
John Taylor Gotto. John Taylor Gotto wrote

1171
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:38.960
a book called The Underground History of
Education in America, and it gets into

1172
01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:42.920
a ton of these subjects. But
it's the best way to educate. It's

1173
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:46.880
the best to be homeschool all our
girls. I tried homeschooling my adopted son,

1174
01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:49.960
but he just wouldn't stand for it. He's way too social. So

1175
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:58.279
we had to let that one go. So at homeschool after school hours did

1176
01:32:58.319 --> 01:33:00.720
I did answer all the questions on
that absolutely. By the way, John

1177
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:05.439
Taylor Gatto, that guy has more
education than I think everybody in my town

1178
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:10.399
here. He went to so many
college super smart guy, super smart guy,

1179
01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:14.359
so much fun to listen to,
so much information. Yeah, I

1180
01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:16.560
think he's big on and he doesn't
beat around the bush either. He comes

1181
01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:20.600
out and says they're dumbing you down. They're not educating you, they're literally

1182
01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:24.760
dumbing you down. Yep. He
wrote a book called Dumbing us down.

1183
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:28.920
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Just go take a book John Taylor

1184
01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:31.159
gotta quotes and just read his quotes
for a while. It's great. Ten

1185
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:36.960
minutes awesome. This has been a
tremendous, tremendous ninety minutes. And I

1186
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:42.119
want to thank you so much for
your time and your reflection and sharing your

1187
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:45.159
story. And I just want to
give you the platform here for the last

1188
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:48.600
few minutes to kind of close out
with anything you'd like to say. No,

1189
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:51.720
thanks, thanks for talking. We
wish we could sit down for a

1190
01:33:51.720 --> 01:34:01.640
coffee sometime. I just want to
encourage everybody to like, it's all about

1191
01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:05.279
Jesus. He's the beginning, he's
the end, he's the middle, he's

1192
01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:11.079
the front, he's a cornerstone.
All things are made through him, by

1193
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:13.439
him and for him, And that's
what this thing that we're all living here

1194
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:15.960
is all about. It's it's for
him. At the end of time,

1195
01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:19.880
all every eye is going to see
him. And you know that day I

1196
01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:25.279
want to be able to look up
and have my arms out wide and and

1197
01:34:25.479 --> 01:34:28.000
say I want him to look at
me and say well done, good and

1198
01:34:28.079 --> 01:34:31.319
faithful servant. So everything is going
on around us, it's because they hate

1199
01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:36.359
him so much, they just despise
him. So please read Late and Power

1200
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:40.399
of the Soul. It will change
the way you look at the way you

1201
01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:45.479
live your life every day. Practice
walking in the spirit, be able to

1202
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:51.560
step back when when things get tense
and conflict and you're going to get angry

1203
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:57.239
or you feel stuff, have you
know going down, step back in your

1204
01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:59.920
mind and your heart and say,
is his soul or is a spirit?

1205
01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:03.399
And there's a verse that says that
the Word of God divides between soul and

1206
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:08.600
spirit. Never understood that before,
But we need to understand what a soul

1207
01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:12.279
soul is going to need to stand
or what a spirit spirit is going to

1208
01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:15.960
need the life. So as we
walk in our day and we move forward,

1209
01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:19.520
and God builds his kingdom all around
us. The way he builds his

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kingdom isn't the way that we think
he should build his kingdom. It doesn't

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look like we think. It's kind
of secret, it's kind of underground,

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it's kind of subversive. It's way
softer and gentler than the way we think

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kingdom should be built. So let's
all just practice walking with him and and

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see what that looks like, and
be a reservoir and not a canal amen

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be a reservoir and not a came
out well, said my friend, and

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it was really great to meet you. Yes, that's Frank Bola. That's

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I mean still, it's it's it's
it's it's great and it resonates well and

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I'm sure with a lot of people. Again, thank you so much for

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your time. And I know you're
a busy guy and to be able to

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take the time out and share your
knowledge and your story, your journey that

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will certainly resonate with everyone else.
I greatly appreciate it. And thank you

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to everyone. I wanted to throw
this out there real quick, to everyone

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who has been a part of this
who's come on for an interview, I

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want to thank you all so very
much for really making this podcast what it

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is. But I do I was
thinking I would like episode one hundred to

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kind of be like a best of. So if you were on this podcast,

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like Darren is Today or let's say
you're I'm just pulling this out here

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Steve from episode twenty eight. If
there's a particular part of the interview that

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really resonates you think that was very
important to the folks, just send me

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an email say hey, it's so
and so from episode twenty eight and just

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give me the little the time,
like around the twenty three minute mark I

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said this, and I'll go back
and I'll grab the audio from it just

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a few minutes from everybody who's been
on here, and I want to kind

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01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:00.960
of put together like a best of
podcast for episode one hundred. So you

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know, we'll take a little bit
of audio from everyone, we'll put it

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together, and we'll release it kind
of a as a celebration and as a

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thank you to everyone who's been on
this show. So don't forget do that.

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Just send it to the flat Earth
Files at gmail dot com and then

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the show description just put episode one
hundred or something like that, so I

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make sure I give it priority because
we're coming up on it pretty soon.

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So thank you everyone, and again, thank you Darren so much for your

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time. I'm George God bless everyone. Have a wonderful week. And until

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the next time we meet, my
friends, we will see. Uh.

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You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio
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