1 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:09,640 What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to the Clips and Yip Season 2 00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:14,240 too, Episode forty one. We'll recording this with live over on YouTube at 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,000 dot com slash at Clippers Podcast. We're just kind of doing these weekend lives, 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,559 which has been fun. We're waiting for will up. Like Adam Osland 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,440 is here. If you're new to the show and you're just listening, thank 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,359 you for listening. If you're watching, subscribe it's a good time. Over 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,280 on YouTube. You can follow us at Clippers Pod. We're talking all things 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,759 Clips today. We're gonna talk the loss of Vitza Zubats, which seems like 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,000 it might go on maybe one more game, and how that affected the Clippers 10 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:44,719 against the Wolves, and then previewing the very big important whatever metaphor you want 11 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:50,320 to use in terms of a game that means a lot versus the thunder tomorrow 12 00:00:50,439 --> 00:00:53,359 night. What Adam Osland is here? Adam? How the hell are you 13 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:58,640 after the Clippers put up a pretty good fight against the Timberwolves. How you 14 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:02,719 feeling? How are the callers? How was it the day after? I'm 15 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:07,000 all right? The callers were okay. The Clippers have built up a lot 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,159 of goodwill, a lot of equity on their side because of this run where 17 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:14,879 they have still won twenty two of their last twenty nine ball games and they're 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,319 seventeen and twenty one since December first. And as you mentioned, no big 19 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:22,519 Zoo, which is kind of a big deal when you're going up, especially 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,519 against a team like Minnesota. I said postgame last night, this isn't hyperbolic. 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:33,079 At worst, Zoo is the fourth most important player on this Clippers team. 22 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:37,840 At worst, Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, he's 23 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,280 a he's a starter. And we saw You're right, We saw what happened 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:47,239 with daniel Tyson there against a bigger team or something like that. Daniel Tyson 25 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:49,280 does a lot of things good. He hit that three to open the game, 26 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,719 but we also saw exactly why we need to beat to Zoobots. He 27 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:57,079 saved that ball from going out of bounds. He went into the stands Dennis 28 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:01,640 Rodmans style. He was the effort was there, and I thought big Plumb, 29 00:02:02,319 --> 00:02:06,000 who I've been talking about for a while now, and thought he'd get 30 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,439 some minutes. I didn't know if Eatza Zubos would be out and he'd end 31 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:14,240 up playing like sixteen minutes. He ended up at eight and four and looked 32 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,280 to be in rhythm timing wise, was in the flow of the game. 33 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:22,319 So maybe this will give them more confidence just because they had to play him 34 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:25,080 out of necessity without a beatza zoobos to give him more minutes out there because 35 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,080 it looks like the timing, the touch is back. He went at Rudy 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,719 Gobert for a layup. He had caught a couple of lobs, typical big 37 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:39,199 plumb stuff. So he did have four fouls in his sixteen expected. Yeah, 38 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:44,520 it's like he's rusty. We're gonna talk about someone in the stream is 39 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,479 saying we have to start plumbly. We're gonna talk about that next segment, 40 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,000 maybe if Zoo doesn't play, if we start plumbling against that thunder team. 41 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:55,159 But I so you mentioned plumbly. There was some good early returns from the 42 00:02:55,199 --> 00:03:00,479 plumbly hardened pick and roll that looked obviously, you know, they still need 43 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,560 to work on some stuff, but that was really encouraging to see that working 44 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:07,759 well with public coming back. And so he's a better finisher than Daniel Tice. 45 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,520 He's a better rim protector because of his size than Daniel Tye. He's 46 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,719 at least a better rebounder, rim protector, you can, you can. 47 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:25,199 I wish he was as good at his size as Daniel Tice was with his 48 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:31,400 mindset when it comes to protecting the paint. There because Mason Plumble, he 49 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:36,360 just got gets out of position sometimes, he gets pump faked out of position 50 00:03:36,479 --> 00:03:40,360 too often, he falls for fakes far too often. The effort is there, 51 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,159 He's just never been an elite rim protector, but rebounder, and then 52 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,080 on the other end, he can catch lobs, he can be a vertical 53 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,479 threat. I really think there's a lot of untapped potential there now with James 54 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:59,319 Harden. Definitely, this Wolves game, obviously the Clippers didn't play well, 55 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,680 but I didn't see anything that particularly made me think, oh, this Wolves 56 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:08,479 team is maybe even scarier or better than I thought in this game. I 57 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,120 think if zusan this game, obviously things are a lot different. We did 58 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,840 have to go super small at one point. But I'm not Timberwolves are a 59 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,040 very good regular season team. But it's a lot of people are saying it's 60 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,360 reminding them of the Jazz and all that kind of stuff, and I don't 61 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,879 know if they're totally wrong. I don't think what we saw I don't think 62 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:28,920 they're totally wrong. I brought it up on the last podcast that there are 63 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:33,319 some similarities there. But I'll say this, I think the Timberwolves are the 64 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:39,759 better defensive team than Utah was. That Utah D team was better on offense. 65 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,879 They you know, they sacrifice defense for more shooting out there with boy 66 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,680 On Bogdanovich, with Jordan Clarkson, guys like that, next to Donovan Mitchell 67 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:56,360 and Rudy Gobert. This Minnesota team can struggle at times offensively, although they 68 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,959 shot a really high percentage yesterday against the Clippers. They ended up shooting fifty 69 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,800 seven percent from the field and fifty percent from the outside, but that was 70 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:08,000 when they got shots up because they ended up with nineteen turnovers in the game, 71 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,839 and that was an issue for them. They averaged almost fifteen per game, 72 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,600 and the Clippers are top five and steals, So it was kind of 73 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,040 a recipe for what played out to happen with those teams to a strength versus 74 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:24,240 a weakness there with the Clippers taking advantage of it, they ended up getting 75 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,959 sixty more shots up. Now, some of that's also because Minnesota got so 76 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,480 many free throws on the ball game and a lot of them. Yes, 77 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,480 they'd become late because they were going to hacker go bear. They ended up 78 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:40,120 attempting thirty one free throws, but still I think defensively, just like with 79 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:43,399 the Lakers, their length, and I thought this would be a test for 80 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:47,000 the Clippers because of what we saw against the Lakers, their length really bothered 81 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,959 the Clippers to some degree. Now, well, zers still miss a lot 82 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:56,560 a lot of good luck. That was rough. That was not ideal that 83 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,079 kawhipax to like it, just it was a little tough that. I mean, 84 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:11,000 him and Harden combined to go nine for thirty three, which to be 85 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,079 in that game with two of your big three being that bad from the field 86 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:24,399 does say something about the Clippers and no effort and no zoo great point talent 87 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:27,800 wise, you could be in a game like that where I think in past 88 00:06:27,879 --> 00:06:30,639 seasons they would have just got run off the floor and they would have lost 89 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:33,600 by twenty five. Yeah, and maybe have given in earlier than they did, 90 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:39,319 because even when they went with the small ball lineup, that eventually worked 91 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,920 and I think ended up being a plus eight at first. That's how the 92 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,839 lead got up to seventeen. They brought them in. They were running small 93 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:51,360 ball and they got burnt. Coach Lou stuck with it and eventually it worked. 94 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Rudy Gobert was missing free throws, Norm got hot as he always is 95 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,639 in fourth quarters. What else is new, and they they made a run 96 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,600 and had it to within three with a minute left. Well, we saw 97 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:05,680 them getting settled. I feel like we saw the Clippers really work through a 98 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,560 process where they did have to settle a bit in the beginning, and then 99 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,839 with the small ball they had to figure it out because they don't play that 100 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,720 very often. Like it's not like something that we've seen be Okay, we've 101 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,399 leaned into having a traditional big out there most of the time. So it 102 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,199 was kind of cool to see them work through that and figure out what worked 103 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,560 and show good results. Obviously, you know, the loss is bad, 104 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,560 but there was some nice stuff for maybe later down the road. Yeah, 105 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,319 and it was for those who were watching us on the youtubeer listening now on 106 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:41,399 podcast form. They had two to one three out there next to James Harden, 107 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:45,079 next to Russell Westbrook, next to Norman Powell, something I don't know 108 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,800 if we've seen so far, and they ran with it for I want to 109 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:53,519 say about eight minutes. Uh, and they ended up being a huge plus 110 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,439 and getting them back in the ball game and giving them a chance. I 111 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,480 still have some questions about some late game execution there when they did cut it 112 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:05,480 to three with a minute left. Do you really want to foul Rudy go 113 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:07,879 Berart and intentionally foul him like Russell Westbrook did? Just let that play out. 114 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,680 See if you can get a stop defensively, it's a minute a game 115 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,439 time left. And then at the very end, when they're down by four, 116 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,319 they bring it up the court slowly, get it to Russell Westbrook on 117 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,480 the left wing. After PG got doubled, he attacks, misses the layup. 118 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,639 There's the time just runs out. Even if he had made it, 119 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:31,000 I think there would have been about two seconds of the clock. It was 120 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:37,320 like the left But the Clippers, yeah, they the and Coach lu said 121 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:43,759 postgame, we didn't play smart enough basketball out there overall. But in speaking 122 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:46,360 to more of what we saw with the small ball, I was just listening 123 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:52,679 to some of the locker room postgame audio from Kawhi PG and James Harden, 124 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,639 Uh, no excuse me, Russell Westbrook and they all were kind of like, 125 00:08:56,039 --> 00:09:00,679 at least Paul George and Russ were both saying, we just need more 126 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,960 reps because we've actually been so successful not going small this season. We haven't 127 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,159 run much of it, right, Yeah, it's new. It's like totally 128 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,120 it's what we've all It's funnily enough, it's what we've all wanted. It's 129 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:15,240 not really the version of it, but it's totally new. I hope they 130 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,120 don't lean I don't think they'll lean into it too crazy, like I don't 131 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,720 think we'll see it against okay see, but we might give them their big 132 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:26,919 size. But another thing that was cool to watch Terrence Man on Anthony Edwards. 133 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:31,000 There's something there. Terrence played some antie VIDs, is very good. 134 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,759 Obviously he had a good game, but Terrence Man bothers him. Terrence Man 135 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,960 has a thing where he bothers guys like Luca. He bothers the Edwards. 136 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,000 He was in Gobert's face. But I was encouraged by what we saw from 137 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,519 Terrence one on one against Anthony Edwards. He's not like a stopper or whatever 138 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,080 it is. Yeah, exactly. Terrence Man ended up only playing nineteen minutes. 139 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,120 I would have been interested to see him in place of Rust down the 140 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,200 stretch because of his defense and better three point shooting with that small ball unit. 141 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:03,360 But in that first quarter, two of the turnovers were generated by Terrence 142 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:07,799 Man and that defense, as you mentioned on it where they tried to lob 143 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,960 it to him on a play I think from Carl Anthony Towns where Terrence Man 144 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,120 was denying him the basketball and it ended up going out of bounds, and 145 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:18,879 then a shot clock violation on Minnesota that was due to the defense that Terrence 146 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:24,240 Man was playing. He was really good. Can we start acknowledging some of 147 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,720 these some of these comments, we're getting a lot of ye sorry about that, 148 00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:33,039 some spicy stuff. Jonathan Ang said, Man was incredible defensively against a 149 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:39,279 We have this one which is interesting that people talked about when Terrence Man wasn't 150 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,600 shooting well. Finessem if you're not, if you're just listening, Finess commented 151 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:46,559 this on the YouTube stream. I want to see Norm in the starting lineup 152 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:52,919 since he's such a bucket. That is a thing where I if Terrence wasn't 153 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:56,480 shooting well still up to January fifteenth, I could maybe understand it. But 154 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,279 we know it works well and it works so good in the middle of the 155 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,679 game, right, Like, it's just another incredible wrinkle to add to this 156 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,360 Clippers pick and roll. So and I think Norm's kind of like lou Will, 157 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,240 right, remember how lou Will talked about how he didn't like starting games. 158 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,960 He kind of had to figure out the flow of the game and things 159 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,919 like that and kind of watch it. I think Norm, with the way 160 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,559 he plays and scores, kind of needs that a little bit. It's not 161 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:22,399 a crazy idea because it is a very good lineup, but the defenses, 162 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:28,080 I think we need the defense against starters exactly. You hear it all the 163 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:33,080 time from Kawhi and Paul George. Them not having to guard, for example, 164 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:37,039 Anthony Edwards's start off a ballgame saves their legs for later in fourth quarters. 165 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:43,480 It has a trickle down type of effect. And yeah, it would 166 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,759 make more sense if I don't know that five man starting unit with Terrence Man 167 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:52,360 wasn't shooting fifty three percent from the field together and forty four percent from the 168 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:56,279 outside. If it was actually affecting their offense, then it would be a 169 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:58,919 good call to put in Norman Pallence and a Terrence Man. It's not affecting 170 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:03,320 their offense. My friend who ever put that comment in there. He's still 171 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,759 a good connector, he's still a good cutter to the basket. Uh, 172 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:11,000 he doesn't get in the way. And when you have the stars in the 173 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:15,279 starting lineup already, how many shots is he going to get up? Maybe 174 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,159 a couple in the first quarter, which is what we basically have been seeing. 175 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,720 And yeah, he needs to knock down his three point shot, but 176 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:26,279 again they are shooting forty four percent from three with the starting unit out there, 177 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,919 with Terrence Man, even with these struggles that have been going on, 178 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:37,679 and you look at what Norm does. Norm's you cut out there chuck second, 179 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:43,639 don't they? Uh? What is the second gotch does after scoring the 180 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,519 basketball? It's the second thing. Yeah, like Terrence does a lot of 181 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,840 That's a trick question, right, Yeah, Norman's rags wearing the basketball. 182 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:56,759 Danny Perez, who is getting the hat? I'm sending that off tomorrow, 183 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,080 Uh said more interested in Norm finishing. I think when we're down, and 184 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:03,320 that makes a lot of sense. Norm finishing when we need a bucket or 185 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,919 something is gonna be really good. And I'm not gonna be surprised if Norm 186 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:13,320 wins with how he plays late in games. So I think Tyler's been good, 187 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:18,240 right, we haven't seen ty really make the wrong finishing. No, 188 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:24,360 it's amazing people want this to change when it's worked so well with the starting 189 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,799 unit and Norman Powell. Look at how those five play together. They are 190 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:35,519 dominant. They're putting up dominant numbers offensively and defensively. And I see stuff 191 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:41,080 like from I Am the System with the Heisenberg avatar saying there's actually a twenty 192 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,519 five percent chance plumb ceiling is higher than Zoo because his passing and b ball 193 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,039 IQ. It's like, do you even know who beats a Zoo box? 194 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,080 No? No, no, no, it's not. He's the third best 195 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:58,200 rim protector in the league. Mason plumb Lee is not close to that conversation. 196 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:03,600 He's probably one of the worst. If you look back at the numbers 197 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,559 in Charlotte last season. He struggles in that area. Zoo is the backbone 198 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:13,200 of their defense who currently is getting thirteen to ten on almost seventy percent shooting 199 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,000 over their last twenty eight games that he has played in before he missed the 200 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:22,720 game last night, So we do gotta talk about that because the Zoo thing 201 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:28,120 obviously was a huge loss. The timeline is what he kind of felt. 202 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:33,639 He felt some calf tightness or something on Friday, I believe tried to kind 203 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:37,559 of play through it and practice through it and then couldn't. He was questionable 204 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,279 to start the game and then like two minutes into the game he was ruled 205 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:48,679 as officially out. Tyson started this game, but no, Zoo is pretty 206 00:14:48,759 --> 00:14:52,440 rough. I don't think he's gonna be back for okay see either, considering 207 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,519 the Clippers have four days off and we're gonna talk about the Okac game after 208 00:14:56,559 --> 00:15:00,720 a break in a bit. But I can't. I don't they play him 209 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,440 against the Thunder And I don't know if I wanted to, I wouldn't care 210 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,320 if he said he was feeling good. I don't think I would play him 211 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,240 when you're dealing with that part of the body or you know, it's all 212 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,120 connected to the Achilles and it started with a calf. With Kevin Durant and 213 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:18,200 how vital of Itza Zubats is to this team. No, Mayson Plumble isn't 214 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,759 close to the center that he is still very good and what he does off 215 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,840 the bench, but they have to have Aviatza Zubats. He is imperative if 216 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,440 he needs to take two weeks off if he needs to take a month off 217 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:33,919 to get right, because this is the iron man for this team who has 218 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,559 hardly missed any games over the last five seasons. So more wear and tear 219 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,759 in his body because of that. Whatever it takes, you have to preserve 220 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,480 of Ittza Zubats. They are not winning anything without him, guys, that 221 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,440 is the truth. And they have, you know, after, like we've 222 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:52,399 mentioned, they have these four days off after the game against the Thunder, 223 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:58,360 then they're home against the Nets on Sunday, home against Lakers on Tuesday. 224 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,799 Then they have a back to back in Trono and Boston twenty six, twenty 225 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:03,639 seventh, and then Cleveland the twenty ninth. So they have a lot of 226 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:07,799 games coming up. They have a three and four. Uh they're away. 227 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Uh oh. We got a special guest lurking in the wings. I think 228 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,720 he can hear me. I don't know if he can. Uh. Will 229 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:18,559 Updike is here, Will welcome, Welcome to the live. How are you 230 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,679 good? Good? How's it going? Fellas, He's back, It's going 231 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:26,919 good. Adam is trying is arguing with people in the comments about Mason Pumley 232 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:30,320 being a better center than Zoo. He's of course right, that is the 233 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:37,120 better. That's better. Yeah, here's a fun question, Alfred Rodriguez. 234 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,720 We're talking Zoo being out. Does zoobox absence give him enough of a case 235 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:44,720 to be an All Star? I'm assuming this is like when Peyton Manning was 236 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,799 out for the Colts and they lost all those games, and everyone's like, 237 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,159 well if you see if you take them out, look how bad the defense? 238 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,960 Look how bad they are? Are we going to see a drop off 239 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,399 like that for the Clippers against the thunder team. Well, the Clippers are 240 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:02,919 zero to four and it's only chances for this to happen because of Eviatza Zubots 241 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,519 is so damn available and reliable. They're zer and four without him with two 242 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,400 one three in those games. Oh, that's how important Aviatza Zubots has been 243 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,880 for them. Yeah, Kelly Johnson saying plumbly is still needed. Of course, 244 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,119 we love big plums. Yes, I've been a big proponent and advocate 245 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,640 of his. I'm just saying it's nonsense to say that he should be starting 246 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:26,559 or has more potential than a Viza Zoobots. My god, one guy is 247 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,319 twenty six, by the way, and is already much better. It's great, 248 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,519 but is Plumbly ready for the start though? If Zoo can't go. 249 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:41,319 So that's a great questions with the thunder because like they're not small, right, 250 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,559 But yeah, I mean for a few minutes the gortatt start, remember 251 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,039 that old thing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel 252 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:51,920 like it's worth a look. He had a great I thought his last game. 253 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,559 He looked great. It very much might be needed to start Mason plumbly. 254 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:03,400 If Zubots isn't going plumbly and DT are gonna play minutes, they're probably 255 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,480 gonna combine for thirty minutes or something like that against the Okac Thunder. So 256 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,480 he better be ready for that challenge of Chet Holmgren, which is not easy 257 00:18:11,599 --> 00:18:15,079 because uh, you know, you would think Daniel Tice, even though he's 258 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:22,519 undersized against Chet because of the foot speed, might be the guy they start 259 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,440 on him. I don't know, just because Chet takes out to the perimeter. 260 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,559 Yeah, well, if he takes Mason Plumbing out to the perimeter, 261 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:34,440 he's gonna fly right by him too. So that's true. There's they offer 262 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:40,160 a lot of problems the oka See Thunder. That is a great transition before 263 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,480 we do this quick ad break for those listening before we get into that Whales. 264 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:45,039 There anything you wanted to say about how you felt the Clips look that 265 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:49,079 you didn't say on the double dip against the Timberwolves. I touched on how 266 00:18:49,079 --> 00:18:55,720 the Timberwolves don't look particularly scary. I feel like that game said a lot 267 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:59,079 more about the Timberwolves than it did the Clippers. And I still think that 268 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,880 it wasn't encourage loss for the Clippers, and I'll leave it at that. 269 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,640 Is that our second encouraging loss of the season? Uh? Sure, what 270 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:08,759 was the other one? I can't remember. I think it was early Maybe 271 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:12,039 it was one of the first hard Denver? Was it the was it low 272 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:18,240 key the Denver to Reggie and DeAndre loss? Because it that was the absolute 273 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,240 floor. Yeah, I think it was rock bottom. You know, you 274 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,240 have to hit rock bottom first before you can really crawl out. Exactly after 275 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,920 we went on a nine game win streak, I think we can we called 276 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,319 that an encouraging loss. We did. We we did an episode like six 277 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,839 wins into the win streak where Will and I were like, I think the 278 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,079 bad taste of that loss against the Nuggets is finally out of our mouth we 279 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,599 just had to win in a row. Yeah, it just took sixth straight. 280 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,359 I would like to point out that I don't think it's a complete coincidence 281 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:48,880 that the two teams with the most defensive length have given the Clippers problems over 282 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,000 the last two weeks, the Lakers and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Shooting wise, 283 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,559 I don't think that is a coincidence. Clippers need to be better making their 284 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,519 open shots, but I don't think it's a great matchup to go up against 285 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:04,319 Minnesota in the playoffs, like just saying, oh, it's gonna happen, 286 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,839 just like it did with the Utah Jazz, They're gonna be able to beat 287 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,359 them. They were still down twenty five, by the way in that game 288 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,279 six the Utah Jazz, right, and we're about to have to go back 289 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:18,079 to Utah before Terrence Man went off like that. And they have better defenders 290 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,440 around Rudy Gobert on this Minnesota team. I think offensively that Utah team was 291 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,680 better, but defensively, this Minnesota team is definitely better. Here's something we've 292 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:32,079 had a couple of questions about this. Do we think the Clippers we'll go 293 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,079 with Kelly Johnson because we know her. Do you think the Clippers still need 294 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,079 another four who can slide into the five? Saw a lot of chatter about 295 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,319 that after the Minnesota lost. There have been people talking, you know, 296 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,920 now is the I think the fifteenth is when some contracts can be traded, 297 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,400 like there's there's something to kick in and things like that. Will do you 298 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,400 think the Clippers? We know they're gonna do their due diligence, but do 299 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,759 you think they're actively looking for an upgrade there? Oh, they've got feelers 300 00:20:53,759 --> 00:20:56,440 out, for sure. I think somebody at the I think somebody at the 301 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,640 four with all the wings that you've shipped out makes a lot of sense. 302 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,799 It just comes down to what what you're really what you're really willing to give 303 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,599 up, you know, in terms of assets, which I don't think is 304 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,000 a whole lot with how things are going right now. I don't know how 305 00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:18,480 big of a move you would really do. Yeah, I know, Keith 306 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:21,720 Smith had that tweet that the Clippers could add like a twenty million dollar guy. 307 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:22,920 I yet moving a bunch of stuff, But I was like, who 308 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,680 are we moving that? Yeah? Yeah, I just don't think I just 309 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,440 don't think anybody is taking that. No one is taking on the PJ Tucker 310 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:37,680 contract and giving you anything of value, like not even of value unless you're 311 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,920 attaching something else a player, And who do you want to give up? 312 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,559 I guess right, Like that's that's right. But like everyone on the team 313 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,240 is playing so good. Things are just clicking. Yeah, I mean, 314 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,519 you know, unless it's one of the guys, like unless you can figure 315 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,559 out a trade for someone who is willing to develop a younger player like a 316 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,559 Brandon Boston or something like that, and they're interested enough that they're going to 317 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:06,759 take on extra year PJ. Tucker at eleven or twelve, which that's it 318 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,880 hurts that's what hurts them. It's not like he's an expiring contract. He's 319 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,039 still got another year. That's why Philadelphia was trying to move him. And 320 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,240 it seems like he's on to get James Harden. Yeah, it seems like 321 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,000 he's unwilling to waive it or I think they would have gotten a deal done 322 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:26,519 for him, yeah, something like if he's a buyout guy. Yeah, 323 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:30,799 I mean, I think any contender would like sniff around. And a lot 324 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:36,640 of the guys are the prototypical UH player that people are looking for. Yeah, 325 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:38,759 like a four or five that can also shoot and stuff and stretch the 326 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:41,759 for a little bit and defend the ram. It's like, oh, guys 327 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:47,119 that make one hundred million dollars, Like they're kind of hard to find. 328 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,480 That's not easy to pull off. I'd like a Jokic stopper who's a twenty 329 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:56,400 point per game guy ideally for about twenty million doses. Johnnys have another brother, 330 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,799 Like that's better, Like what what about? Uh? What about Dorian 331 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,160 Finnie Smith? Do you think the Clippers can get Dorian Finny Smith? A 332 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,039 lot of people talk about him in the comments. Yeah, it just depends 333 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,559 on what the other bids are around the league. Yeah, I don't know. 334 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,160 That's I mean, that's a tasty one though. I think that's like, 335 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:19,039 that's a great pick hup. He's not getting he's not. He's not. 336 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:22,759 He's shooting, okay, shooting forty percent from deep, Like he'd be 337 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:26,319 a nice you know, it's pretty good. Another stretch guy, Like, 338 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,920 no, he'd be great. He he is the guy in the price range, 339 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,920 the other guy we've talked about before, PJ. Washington. Yeah, 340 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,079 Charlotte, Uh, those guys I think are a possibility. But like Will 341 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,400 said, it's not just the Clippers who are gonna be going after them so 342 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,599 they can drive up the price and pull in a few different assets. And 343 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,039 here's somebody talking about PJ. Washington. Yeah, we got to give a 344 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:52,039 shout out to trank Addict on YouTube. Thank you for this comment. If 345 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:55,839 you're watching, it sounds like what we acquired with k J. Martin. 346 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,559 But he's a fat which I kind of like that take like kJ Martin. 347 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,359 Also, fun fact, the only Clipper to appear in the schedule release video 348 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:10,359 no longer. Wow. Fun. I don't know if it's a fun fact. 349 00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:11,799 All right, thank you Daryl for the comments. We're gonna get into 350 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:17,119 this OKAC Thunder game preview. Before that, we gotta let you know if 351 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,240 you're listening. Sometimes the ads have been loud. If you're watching us on 352 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,880 YouTube, there's no audio ads, but there might be some ads inserted soon 353 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,200 if we get a couple more subscribers. Oh, trance addict, that makes 354 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,319 a lot more sense. Sorry about that, Trance Addicts, not traink addict, 355 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:40,079 My mistake, mister addict addict like tranquilizers. Oh wouldn't that be with 356 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,319 a Q? I don't know, I tranquilizer addic, what do you mean, 357 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:48,920 I don't want to good judge. Coming up, we got Clippers versus 358 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,880 Thunder previous, but the ads have been loud, so go ahead and turn 359 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,039 it down if they've been too loud for your ads. Coming up in three 360 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,200 two? What what's going on? Welcome back into Clip and DIP. I 361 00:24:56,279 --> 00:25:00,240 tuned in late, so I'm sure you heard all the great stuff in the 362 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,920 first segment, which was just mostly about a beat the Zoobots in his absence, 363 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,359 as well as some reactions to the to the loss of the Timberwolves. 364 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:15,640 Now we're looking ahead to the Thunder, Adam, what do you think we 365 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,759 need to do well in this one? Find a way to bottle up Sga. 366 00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:23,039 Everything starts with him offensively. They lead the league in drives per game 367 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:29,880 for a reason, and he just wreeks havoc, creates chaos in a similar 368 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,000 way that Russ used to, but in a more controlled way because his mid 369 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,960 range game is so lethal. Uh, and he just has a bag and 370 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,640 a plethora of moves he can go to that don't even include kicking it out 371 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,920 to the open man. When that double comes after he already you know, 372 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,839 exploits your defense. It gets them in rotation, so they also lead the 373 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,799 league in three point shooting, Clippers behind them by what is it at now, 374 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,759 because I'm guessing the gap closed after the Clippers ended up shooting a pretty 375 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,799 high percentage. They ended up yesterday at what forty four percent from the outside 376 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,599 after that slow start. Let me pull up the Basketball Reference real quick. 377 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:11,240 The three's got a minute. They've been dangerously close to kissing the OKC thunders 378 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:18,640 three point percentage, just kissing right under it. About thirty nine point two 379 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,000 it was, but now I'm sorry at thirty nine to four and are officially 380 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,160 number one per Basketball Reference. Woo. So they overtook OKAC after last night 381 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,400 they did interesting corna Basketball Reference cording to Basketball Reference, uh the wonky if 382 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,200 you look at the weird matchup data on stats on NBA dot com, which 383 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,160 admittedly makes absolutely no sense sometimes, but I think the time might be right. 384 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,920 Russ and Terrence were the number one and number two defenders for Shay last 385 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,480 game, which I thought was interesting. I like Terrence Moore now I feel 386 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:53,599 like he played really well against Anthony Edwards. But that's interesting, Kauh. 387 00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:57,000 I wasn't really on them very much. I wasn't playing in that game. 388 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,039 We think it's the same. I hope it's not Russ because I don't know 389 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:08,559 if Russ is in a good stretch right now. I actually I lot that 390 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:14,000 is one thing. Uh, you know, people have called a lot of 391 00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:18,279 us Russ haters if we criticized him like we do anyone else when they have 392 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,720 bad shooting nights, like I don't know, Paul George last night. It's 393 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:25,200 just a whole different thing if you talk about Russ. But I think Russ 394 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:29,440 versus SGA is interesting to me. I think him on SGA for five to 395 00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:36,440 ten minutes, could uh be successful in you know, in uh in the 396 00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:40,319 way that he only goes like forty five percent from the field during that stretch 397 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,480 something like that, because he's gonna be wildly officient. That's the other part. 398 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,240 He wasn't. The last time he played the Clippers, though, he 399 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,319 was like forty from the floor. He put up thirty one, but it 400 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,079 was one five shots. I was looking go ahead, I mean, you 401 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,599 know, you that's a start. It's not you hope you'd hope to do 402 00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,240 better than that in the in the second mean, but like that's that's the 403 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,920 thing, right is just trying to force him into less efficient shots and hope 404 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,279 that you don't get killed on three point shooting. Yes, And if you 405 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,640 look at the last game we played too, Shae was he was the worst 406 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,680 shooter of their starting lineup. Everyone else was over fifty percent and the starting 407 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,519 lineup against the Clippers last time, which is hopefully that doesn't happen again. 408 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,240 The other thing, I'll go ahead, No, you could live with I 409 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:34,039 guess Shay's stat line if everybody else is much colder and they don't end up 410 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,799 hitting what sixteen three pointers against Clippers? Yeah, sixteen to thirty four from 411 00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:41,240 the outside. But that also was a game that got away from the Clippers. 412 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,880 And I don't know how much you can put into some of the box 413 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,799 score because you know, they lost by nineteen. They didn't have Kawhi Leonard. 414 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,000 They were downs, I guess it will down by four to half. 415 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:55,960 But that third quarter, okay, Soe put up a forty five spot on 416 00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:00,799 him. Yeah, it was well I think it was that was pre Terrence 417 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,519 re emergence as well. Yeah, Terrence was bad in that game. That 418 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,759 was before the Terrassans. Yeah, okay, no, I buy that. 419 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,960 By the Terrannaissance, the terrannosuns of man. Yeah, okay, are you 420 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:22,640 listening to Jurassic World five? Ok. The thunder do another thing too, 421 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,680 which is frustrating for their opponent. They take care of the ball. While 422 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,039 they force turnovers, they don't really turn the ball over their first in blocks, 423 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,559 sixth and steals, and the opponents turn it over sixteen times a game 424 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,960 against them, which is the most in the league. So if the Clippers 425 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,480 are gonna be sloppy with it, I don't like our chances as much. 426 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:48,039 They had fifteen turnovers last time against Okac and in those two games that I 427 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,279 referenced with the Clippers who really struggled from the field. James Harden has also 428 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:56,359 struggled against the Lakers against Minnesota, not just with his shot, but he 429 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:02,240 had three turnovers last night. He's been unbelievable at times, and the Clippers 430 00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:07,160 have been much better in that area with him. But long, lanky, 431 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:14,279 athletic defensive players and wings like okay See also has has given this Clippers team 432 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:17,880 some issues. So far, they've given everybody issues. Two of those three 433 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960 teams are really good. The Lakers, I think, just are a bad 434 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,680 matchup for the Clippers because they possess some of that defensive mindset that those other 435 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:30,200 two teams do. But okay, see they don't exactly have a dearth of 436 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,319 talent. They have a surplus. They are unbelievably good and way ahead of 437 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,759 schedule than what anybody thought they would be. Even the most optimistic fans I 438 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:42,880 think coming into the season didn't have them as being a top two seed in 439 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,680 the West. Right now, Yeah, I'd love to meet though. Okay, 440 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,759 see thunder fan who was like, yeah, you know, thought they'd 441 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,759 be number two. I thought they were gonna take a huge step. Well, 442 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,839 they got Dort and Williams, who are two fantastic defenders. They were 443 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,680 on PG and Harden kind of switched between them the last game and it did 444 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:06,200 not go well despite PG having a pretty good game. Those two guys are 445 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,440 who I worry about this. The starters just have to be at their best 446 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,000 without Zoo. The no Zoo thing and hasn't been announced yet. We're doing 447 00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:17,880 this. Maybe the injury report will come in actually as we're doing this pod, 448 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,000 but it's probably it's looking like Zoo's probably not gonna play. People talked 449 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:26,039 about it earlier and we kind of touched on it but Adam, do you 450 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:30,680 want Plumb to start off this game just for a little bit, I don't 451 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,200 know a lot. Well, I'm fine with it because he's gonna have to 452 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,839 play some minutes somewhere. The question is who they feel better about going up 453 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:42,680 against chet Holmgren, and if the Clippers get into rotation easily, who's more 454 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,440 switchable? It's Daniel Tice. Uh yeah, So I wouldn't be surprised if 455 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,519 Daniel Tice still got the start even with the size mismatch, as he did 456 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,839 against Rudy Gobert. Yeah, I think that makes sense. You know, 457 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:01,079 already down a starter the team does, just have a little bit more chemistry 458 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:06,599 and just run with tys and so I think that it doesn't make sense to 459 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,079 maybe do like a double change in the starting lineup, unless that's the area 460 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,559 where you're really getting killed. Like if yeah, if they're going, if 461 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,160 that's how the Thunder are doing damage on the Clippers, then yeah, I 462 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,680 mean obviously address that, make adjustments, is what you're saying. If things 463 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:29,599 are going poorly, it's an idea we have them to score with the Thunder. 464 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,799 I'm almost you know. Defense is going to be important too, But 465 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,599 if they don't have a beats of Zoo Bots. They just have to be 466 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,519 much better offensively to make up for that, because there's no one that's going 467 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,480 to make up for what Zoo does on the defensive end. You have to 468 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,599 find a way then to put up more points and be much better and execute 469 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,000 better than they did against Minnesota. And the Thunder give up a bunch of 470 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,960 threes, and they give up the third most threes two opponents attempts per league. 471 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,519 They're guarding them very well. But this would be a nice game for 472 00:32:55,599 --> 00:33:00,480 Paul George's bounce back, right, Maybe Paul George has seven for ten day 473 00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:04,519 or something like that, because, like you said, that's a really good 474 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,119 call. They're not gonna be able to defend the same without Zoo at all, 475 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,519 so they might as well try and lead into the offense and Paul George 476 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,039 just do as he was, I guess for a bad game. Now is 477 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,640 due for a bounce back game. He was so good before Minnesota got good 478 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,720 looks early on. Started one for ten, was I think four for nine 479 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:24,880 in the second half, was a little bit better and hit some shots when 480 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,200 they gained some momentum with a small ball team. But yeah, he he 481 00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,920 and James Harden can't have games like that. We're against good teams. You 482 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,519 can't have two of the three, of the Big three be that poor and 483 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,000 inefficient, because if one of them was just okay yesterday, they win the 484 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,000 game. If they just weren't miserable shooting wise, that's how close it was. 485 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Yeah, the heart is miserable, very bad. That's why it's an 486 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,440 encouraging loss. Though. To me, we're still right there, still right 487 00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:01,640 there that we were a kidding, we were kissing them, we were a 488 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,759 kiss away. We're kissing the number one seed, start with two starters stinking 489 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:10,840 it's fine. The thing that I guess worries me in this Thunder game, 490 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,239 too, is the Thunder do not rebound well. They're fifteenth in defensive rebounds 491 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,320 per game and twenty ninth in defensive rebound percentage per game. They're thirtieth in 492 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,719 offensive rebounds per game and twenty eighth in offensive rening percentage. But we don't 493 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,519 have Zoo. So if we had Zoo, I would be like, Once 494 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,079 seeing that stat, I was like, oh, okay, I feel a 495 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:36,760 lot better about this game. Oh we got the injury report beats the out 496 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,519 right calf strain for the Clippers, So we did end up getting that. 497 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,679 If you're an injury if you're a big injury report fan, if we're live 498 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,440 anytime around five or five thirty, we will read it live on air. 499 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,400 Thank you, Kelly Johnson. An injuredport did just come in. Part of 500 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,280 the reason though they're not a good rebounding team is because they're such a good 501 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,480 three points and they can play around the perimeter like that, so they don't 502 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:04,800 have guys who alreday the basket to get shots that are likely going to be 503 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,199 made. I don't think it's like the personnel is that bad. It can 504 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,599 be a good rebounder, but he's often taken mid range shots in three pointers 505 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:19,039 too. So what's the Clippers avenue here other than I guess trying to put 506 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,039 up as many points? What specific We need another hot game from Terence Man 507 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,159 or sorry from Norm Powell. Yes, he's got to be basically kind of 508 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,440 just what he was. I guess Norm was awesome against Minnesota gay and we 509 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:37,480 need another. Like people were very excited about some of the things Russell Westbrook 510 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,639 did last game. He did a lot of good. He did some bad 511 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,960 as well, But I would love an all good rust game. Give me 512 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:46,920 a chunky stat line. Nothing crazy. I'm about asking for like a double 513 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,519 double, but like something, you know, like ten six five with you 514 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:58,599 know, like no no bad turnovers, less than ten field goal attempts unless 515 00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:02,119 he's crazy hot, Like let's let's control as much as we can control down 516 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,760 zero against the Thunder. Yeah, that game against Minnesota was definitely the Russ 517 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:15,199 roller coaster type experience. Yeah, I think overall better than more good than 518 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,159 bad. You could say, the thirteen assists to what did he have a 519 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:23,400 couple turnovers? Yeah, he's got He got them involved with their big men. 520 00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:28,719 I think he had two of the oops to Mason Plumbley, So there 521 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,679 was good stuff there. Just yeah, I'm not sure about fouling Rudy Gobert 522 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,039 three three point game, a minute left, Like, I don't know if 523 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,559 you need to keep intentionally fouling at that point. I don't know if he 524 00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:44,000 was told to though, either, because they were in that hack of go 525 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:47,039 bear mode he was in, which if you watch that game, the free 526 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:53,880 throws were quite literally laughable to start that game. Yeah, I think Gobert 527 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,639 got the last laugh though, because he Clippers were clowning him early. Yeh, 528 00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:02,239 yeah, he pretty much won the game for Minnesota with those free throws 529 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,440 in the end. So I don't know if that's a bad look. But 530 00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:13,639 I did see this stat from our friend Joseph RYA Ward regarding Russell Westbrook. 531 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,599 Uh, And I don't know if this is telling or nothing. You guys 532 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:21,880 can say if it's meaningful or not. And I know some people are gonna 533 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,840 be like, oh, this is just hate. Like, guys, if 534 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:30,480 we can't critique Russ like we do everyone else, that's not fair either, 535 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,639 Like if we're gonna critique Paul George for bad shooting games and James Harden for 536 00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,840 the way he played. I just talked about his turnovers and he hasn't been 537 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,000 good against two teams with Lakes so far. We have to do fair analysis, 538 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,679 like we have to be able to talk about these things and some of 539 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,559 the advanced stats for everyone and not just leave Russ out because we're afraid of 540 00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:55,079 being bullied by Russ. Stands like that doesn't work. Like the stat all 541 00:37:55,159 --> 00:38:00,760 right, it's a doozy boys, No, I am afraid this is from 542 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:07,840 Joseph ryle Ward, not for me. The Clippers with Russell Westbrook as a 543 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,239 member of the team going back to last season, are now twenty two and 544 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,400 twenty two when Russ plays more than twenty minutes in fourteen and two when he 545 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,840 plays less than twenty minutes, is that mean a thing or nothing? Something 546 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:29,760 or nothing somewhere between those two things, right like twenty minutes and thirty seconds. 547 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,800 He's like, yeah, it's like having two and a half fears. 548 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,800 You feel great. You should never go more and never go less. I 549 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,920 just, yeah, you gotta take the good and bad with Russ. I 550 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,440 think that's what it always is. But it also may be a situation where 551 00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:50,280 the reason why coach lose often playing him just about seventeen minutes is because less 552 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,760 can be more with Russ because he bottles up all that energy for those minutes 553 00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:58,800 and he just goes nuclear for a little bit. But there can be that 554 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,159 low of diminishing or turns at times where if you ride it a little bit 555 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,239 too long, you got to no one to hold him and fold him. 556 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,480 With Russell Westbrook, he can be an erratic, unpredictable player at times. 557 00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:10,760 That doesn't mean he's not gonna win them games. That doesn't mean they're not 558 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,840 gonna need him. If James Harden god forbid ever got hurt and they're going 559 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,039 back and starting Russell Westbrook with two one three. It's just in this situation, 560 00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:22,719 with the current construction of the team and where they are now and with 561 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,599 this new starting lineup, I think it makes sense where the minutes have been. 562 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,559 Yes, I agree, and it's gonna be now that tie, I 563 00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:32,360 guess has more time to prepare for not having a beat to Zoobots. It 564 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,639 feels like they found out very late yesterday. I think we'll see some better 565 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,800 management of the minutes in this game against the Thunder because some people were kind 566 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,519 of knocking tize rotations. But I do think it's hard last minute to find 567 00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,440 out that who's not gonna be there. So many of the comments was like 568 00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:52,719 Minnesota was big and coach Lou of course went small, and it's like, 569 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,280 yeah, and they almost won playing like that, like that guy in the 570 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,559 game. Yeah, anything else you want to talk about with this. I 571 00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:05,559 was more excited about this matchup when we thought Zoo was going to be playing, 572 00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:08,280 but still a chance for the Clippers to gain pretty important game in the 573 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,960 standings. I believe they're two and a half back. Yeah, we're two 574 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,280 and a half back of the Thunder would like to get this win. And 575 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,960 I you know you mentioned it last episode, Adam, But we're playing the 576 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Thunder second night of a back to back, which does help the Clippers a 577 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,960 little bit. Will anything to add? Oh? Go ahead? No? 578 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:30,000 I mean you never know. Maybe they only get two free throws to the 579 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:35,079 Lakers twenty three in the fourth quarter and they're upset and distracted from the night 580 00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,440 before. Who knows, Yeah, lat the nightlighte for the win. Will 581 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,239 anything to add before we make our no doubt correct player of the game picks. 582 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,079 No, let's get into it all right. Who wants to go first? 583 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:49,719 Players of the game Clippers versus the first Norm. It's gonna be Norm. 584 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,800 Man. I think Norm is gonna light it up again. I know 585 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,320 what you're thinking, He's going to go back to back. Yes, the 586 00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,800 answer is yes. Over under seventeen of the half points over all day your 587 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:07,159 hammer and the over your smash, your donkey Kong smashing the over on that. 588 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,519 I mean, I hope that, Like I hope it's a situation where 589 00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:14,159 we don't even need him to be as good as he was against Minnesota. 590 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,800 But I think against that second unit he's going to be able to more than 591 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,280 tread water for this team against against Okay, see second unit. So I 592 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,400 think that I think that he'll have he'll have a he'll have some hardy points. 593 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,800 We got great efficiency as always, great efficiency over seventeen and a half 594 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,719 points, Adam, who is your player of the game. Just to prove 595 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,239 I'm not a Russ hater, I'm going with Russell Westbrook again like I did 596 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,199 against Memphis, and I thought he had a really good game. What Yeah, 597 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,960 it's like that Russ going against his former team this time at Crypto. 598 00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:50,840 But also I have been thinking a lot about how do you slow down? 599 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,159 Okay, see, I want to see Russ on SGA at times I want 600 00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:59,320 to see that matchup. Uh. That intrigues me because this could very likely 601 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,159 be a seven game series in the playoffs this year. They could be taking 602 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,440 on the Oka SA Thunder, just like they could be taken on Minnesota. 603 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,119 So these last two games you may get a glimpse into the future of what 604 00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:15,599 we could be watching come the playoffs. Is your good Russ? Is that 605 00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:22,639 twenty plus minute Russ or sub twenty minute Russ for your prediction? Let's see 606 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,800 here if they don't play the five out small ball. I don't think he 607 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,800 would have gotten to what thirty minutes are close to it against Minnesota. I 608 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,119 don't know if that's going to happen. I guess it kind of depends on 609 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:42,559 that. I'll go. I'll go with nineteen minute Russ and I'll say that 610 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,760 in that time he gets ride in the line. I love it. Ten 611 00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:51,960 six five boards. A couple of them are offensive rebounds, but it's the 612 00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:58,280 defense that he plays that really sets a tone and slows down the Oka Sea 613 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,639 Thunder at the point of attack. I mean, I hope you're right. 614 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,760 I hope nothing more than you are right about that pick. I am going 615 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,400 and then I don't think this is a this is a huge stretch. I'm 616 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,679 going to Paul George. We need Paul George to have a bounce back game 617 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:15,760 against the Okay See Thunder. Paul George doesn't have over twenty points. I 618 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,039 think it's very difficult for the Clippers to win this game. We need him 619 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,000 to be good. James Harden, if he has a bad game, he's 620 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,840 gonna be my next sympathetic pick to be player of the Game because we'll really 621 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,159 need it. But Paul George. I'd love to see a bounce back right 622 00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:32,880 here forgot Chuck gets two players of the game. Now, I didn't pick 623 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,239 James Hard. I said, I'm not gonna pick James Hard. I pick 624 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,559 him from motivation. Paul George needs a bount and I think, Adam, 625 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,239 are you gonna We're all three gonna be at the game? I believe right. 626 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,239 Yeah, I was kicking at Club one eleven, coming out at one 627 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,679 to eleven inundate Adam with responses, with questions about stories about the games and 628 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,400 stuff like that. He's very he doesn't have a lot to do before the 629 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,639 games. At least take a picture. Yes, we will get on a 630 00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:07,719 picture. And we also Siggy Small find us on Twitter. You want a 631 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,960 hat if you're listening or watching, I don't know what you want a hat? 632 00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:15,920 You need to send us your address to get the hat. Nice hat 633 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,840 still hasn't it into it label on it, but we can take it off. 634 00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,440 I'm fine with that. And Adam got the other prize set off, 635 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:30,639 which is fantastic. Look for that bad boy in Germany. In six weeks 636 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,199 we did the Yeah, and then Clippers have four days off after this game 637 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,519 against the thunder we'll have an episode out for y'all next week. In the 638 00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:43,519 meantime, Adam, are we going to be doing a double dip after this 639 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,719 Thunder game? Oh? Hell yeah. I don't know who's coming on. 640 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,840 Is it dependent on the outcome? I think it might be my turn. 641 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239 But if We'll really wants to go on after, they will, you can 642 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,079 go on after the Clippers. They need to win this game. Guys, 643 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,719 I'm not I'm not gonna say it's okay to lose this game without a Visa 644 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840 zoom. It's just not on the second night of a back to back. 645 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,280 If we're talking about a team trying to win a championship that needs to get 646 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,639 a top three seed. You got to win this game. I like it. 647 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:14,239 You gotta beat what, you gotta beat the teams ahead of you. 648 00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:17,639 You know, Hey, I'm a dog even I know exactly what you're talking 649 00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:24,239 about. The record against teams over five hundred, immaculate. The Kimpers need 650 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,760 to get there. Well, where can these people review and maybe subscribe or 651 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,599 leave any kind of feedback they want to leave us? Yeah, if you 652 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,199 want to leave some feedback, you can do that over on Apple Podcasts or 653 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,559 Spotify. Yeah, if you left a rating and review over there. It 654 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,400 really help us out. You can listen to the audio of this show at 655 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,639 either one of those places or anywhere you get podcasts, Google Podcasts, Disher, 656 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,760 Deezer, Amazon Music. But if you want the full experience, you 657 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,039 got to check out the show on YouTube. That's YouTube dot com, slash 658 00:45:54,159 --> 00:46:00,280 at Clippers podcast And yeah, you can comment. You can comment on every 659 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,320 single one of these podcasts, every single one. He heard. You can 660 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,480 be heard, Yes, you can be heard if they're free, which is 661 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:12,119 fun. So that's great, Adam. One positive thing to say before we 662 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,639 send these listeners out, happy IMLKDA to everybody. If you had the day 663 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,480 off, you had a chill day off, Adam, what do you what 664 00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,519 are? You leave it on us with a positive note, Like well said, 665 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:28,559 you can definitely put last night's loss into the encouraging loss category because they 666 00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:32,239 made it so close against a team where they were missing Big Zoo, where 667 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,559 they were missing key players playing well out there, and they're Big three and 668 00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:40,800 I just expect James hard and Paul George to play much better in Kawhi, 669 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,119 Leonard to keep doing his thing and he didn't get his shot at okay, 670 00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:49,320 see last time around, So you know he's gonna get his opportunities on SGA 671 00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,679 as well. And Kawhi got upset yesterday. Remember when you guys used to 672 00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:54,599 call me missed her five seconds when I was going off about Kawhi in the 673 00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:59,519 preseason game against Traje Jackson. Okay, there was a play yesterday, I 674 00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:04,400 guess a bit where he thought McDaniels fouled him. He was chirping with the 675 00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:08,400 official and when he got back on defense, he went insane and knocked it 676 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,840 off McDaniels out of bounds. But he was just like everywhere, he was 677 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,400 so locked in. So why maybe upset going into this game and an upset 678 00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:22,400 terminator is not something you want. If you remember the thunder. We hope 679 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,599 the Clippers can beat the Dirty Thundays. That's something we thought of this weekend. 680 00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:29,079 We're pretty excited about it, Dirty Thundays. We'll be back with a 681 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,280 double dip that episode next week. Thank jan for listening and watching it. 682 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,039 As always, let's go clips