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and welcome to another episode of the Headless Giant Podcast. I got my buddy
Rider lead and we're going to be talking about mind control drugs and mind control
operations. Talking a little bit about what you can expect to see from mind
control drugs, some of the symptoms, some of the history, and let's
get into it. So I guess we're going to talk a little bit about
MK Ultra program. This is Rider Lee Raised by Giants podcast. Why don't
you introduce them yourself and tell people where they can find you. What's up?
Brother, Thanks so much for having me on. Really appreciate it.
Always love these kind of lead back conversations of some of the best ones that
I've had or super laid back and chill. Yes, you can find me
on Raised by Giants, on YouTube and Indian all podcast platforms. You can
follow me on Raised by Giants, eight, on Twitter and well Twitter x
and Instagram at Raised by Jarian's Pod. And I am back on Facebook.
Yes, after a half, well more than almost a year hiatus from Facebook,
I am now back because you know, you got to utilize all those
platforms, my friend, you got to do do the whole deal. When
you're a content creator, you can't be slacking on a lot of those platforms.
So thanks for happy. Even though it's distasteful, I get on Facebook
and I feel like I got to take a shower afterwards. It's like,
oh, it was so toxic, so toxic on on Facebook. But what's
interesting is that like TikTok, but trying to do the TikTok band, And
regardless of what you think of like TikTok, I think that the reason that
they're hiding it under the guys that is China and like a data collection thing
when it's really not. It's really about the ability to blow up and go
viral. They don't want normal everyday people having the ability to amass thousands and
thousands of views. You know, TikTok is kind of well, not so
much anymore, but it used to be the way that YouTube was. Remember
YouTube back in the early two thousands to mid two thousands, Like people would
just blow up on there because the algorithms supported it. And that's kind of
what TikTok was, and that's why they were going after TikTok, you know,
hardcore and saying, oh, it's trying to spy, which it may
be, who knows, but at least with TikTok, they they would push
your videos out regardless of what you said or what the content was even about.
So I think that that's what's going on with this government TikTok band.
It's not about data, it's not about Chinese spying on us. It's literally
the ability to blow up and go viral, and they don't want to just
give that ability to anyone and everyone. So they're starting to reel that back
now. And now TikTok is getting more community guidelines stuff, just like what
YouTube did with people, right, they can just slap on the community guidelines
violation for whatever it is that they want, even though though you may not
have even have done anything. So that's the direction that TikTok is going.
So really, X is our only uh free speech platform, so well,
I mean it's it's definitely better than a lot of the other ones, right,
you can pretty much get on there. I know that there's still been
people that's lost their account and gotten violations and all that, but for the
most part, for me, I've never gotten anything on X ever. But
I've gotten them on Instagram, I've gotten them on Facebook, We've gotten them
on YouTube, gotten them on TikTok. Right, it's like, as soon
as I start to get any kind of momentum going, it's like boom,
immediately a freaking community guidelines violation every time, everywhere but acts. But you're
trying to break stories, that's the that's the problem. If you're coming out
with rehashed old material that a lot of other people have done, they don't
care so much. But if you've got original reporting and you've got original perspectives
and original you know, breaking news, they don't want that. They don't
want that at all. And you know, in a lot of ways,
I see that as sort of like the mind control aspect. It's it's you've
got to control the filters, right, So if you can control the filters
as to what people are focusing on and thinking about, you can have a
much greater degree of control. And I think we saw that really with the
with the Google studies that they were doing, where they actually looked at which
search results popped up most often, and they found that with a little bit
of manipulation, you can basically control a person's attention and focus it towards the
places you want them to go. And in an election year, that's incredibly
important. But well, not only that, you've got Google's AI doing all
kinds of wacky things. Well yeah, Google's AI like given diversity and like
creating people out of thin air, and you know, it's wild. I'm
pretty sure Google's AI has lost millions of dollars based off of the bogus results.
Whenever you type in something you know and they give you stuff that isn't
true, you know, it's like, well, you know what's going on
here? I thought Google was supposed to be the arbiter of truth and the
Google AI is just making up a bunch of nonsense. And throwing people into
roles that they weren't supposed to, that they were never in. You know,
it's it's so interesting that people think that we live in such an advanced
society, in such an advanced world when and that thing is, you know,
can just you get better and get better and better? And I'm like,
well, you know, is it really is AI really that good?
I haven't seen AI really produce quality things, right, Well, that's the
point is that it's low quality and mass production, you know. I mean
it's all you see everywhere is just this low quality AI video and just slapped
out there. All these people who do voice acting and everything else. They're
all out of a job. You know, why would you need them?
You just need three minutes of their speech, you know. And writers too,
you know, writers are really going to suffer hardcore, especially movie writing
and TV writing. And I think that that was the whole purpose of that
whole writer strike in Hollywood, right, It was like, oh, well,
you guys don't want to work, you guys want to be paid more.
Well, guess what we're gonna do. We're just gonna have AI take
all your jobs. AI is now are going to rule and write all these
shows, you know. I mean, I'm pretty sure that what's that one
movie where they had the evil the Evil kids Superman. It wasn't like Superman,
but it was you know, gave the impression and the idea that it
was no, no, no, no. It was like a rated R
like Superhero movie where it was like a kid and then he was like an
evil Superman. I can't think of the name bright Burn. No, isn't
that bright Burn? I don't know. Anyway, they're making a sequel to
that movie, and it's going to be completely written by AI, right,
and they could have AI actors and everything and just go in and re edit
it. All you gotta do is put in the text and now you get
pretty high quality video. It's almost indistinguishable from you know, regular video.
And these are all just AI characters, all just rendered out of nothing.
So I think that's gonna be a huge mind control factor in the next coming
elections. I don't know if you heard, but they recently caught a teacher
who was about to get fired try to frame the principle for racism by making
an AI recording of his voice and then saying this is him saying those racist
things and before it could take off, they just ran it through a program.
They're like, no, this is AI. This guy's trying to frame
up this principle because he was getting fired. And now this is our first
AI false flag. So I think there's gonna be lots more, you know.
Well, then that becomes a question too, is like, well,
if we're just now getting this type of technology in the public is able to
do this, how long have these other organizations and through letter agencies in the
military and the government had this technology. Because we know that they don't give
us anything that they don't already have. There's no possible way that AI was
just now created in the pas past couple of years. I mean, AI
has been running these social media companies for freaking years. I think that these
are people that are that are doing all this stuff. And it's not people.
It's freaking AI. I mean, it's it's all and it's been AI
for a really long time. And I'm sure that if you talk to somebody
that works at one of these social media companies, they don't even know how
it works. Well, we do have no idea. We do have your
work as sort of like a benchmark when it comes to jfk X and your
high quality video showing the squibs, because if they had AI back then,
they wouldn't have had to do all that, you know, all the editing
and all the missing frames and everything else. That's a pretty good benchmark.
Maybe at that point they started to pivot away from thinking about you know,
physical effects. I mean, look at the moon landing. You can see
a lot of physical effects going on there. And I think having that sort
of benchmark is important because now we could sort of see the transition and because
the governments have always been involved in hoaxing and faking things, and what we
see now is sort of like the next level of that, the next iteration.
And I think, you know, even UFOs, if we want to
talk about mind control UFOs, I know, uh, you've got the operation
Bluebeam. I don't know how real that is. I think that's more of
like a preparatory thing, sort of getting people accustomed to the idea of it.
But at the same time, that would be a mind control event,
just a mass level hoax that if you go against it in the future after
that point, you're a pariah. You know. That's That's sort of the
thing too, is having big events that are meant to shape your personality and
shape your mental perception, creates a rift automatically right off that, Right off
the bat. People have two solutions in mind, they're given two solutions,
and if those two solutions don't accommodate, then they add another one, They
add another layer, and then they put that into the mix and see where
things shake out. But basically, like you were saying, the reason why
they want control over these platforms is because they don't want to let something go
viral that they don't already have a narrative for. That's right, That's exactly
right. And with Project Bluebeam, I don't think that that's ever going to
happen because there's been too many people that's warned against that, and normally things
that people mourning about and say that is going to happen never happens. And
I talked about, actually talked with a gentleman that's going to be in our
second documentary which is going to be about MK Ultra in Hollywood and Stanley Kubrik
and the moon landings and the shining and all that. And his dad was
the right hand man to Sydney Gottlieb, which was ahead of the MK Ultra
programs I was, and I was yeah, and I was sitting down and
I was talking with him, and you know, he brought up this,
uh, this idea of you know, Project Blue Beam, and uh he
was like, oh, yeah, there's supposed well he brought up that people
were seeing Mother Mary, remember that whole big thing back I don't know,
maybe eight ten years ago, where people were seeing like visions of like Mother
Mary and all that. And I was like and I was like, yeah,
that that seems like a Project blue Beam type of thing, Project blue
Beam event, right, because I think that that was you know, the
goal was to you know, make it seem like these messiahs from these religious
camps have all come back, you know. So for the Christians it would
be Jesus, you know, for the Muslims would be Mohammed. The Buddhas
that would be Buddha, and they're all descending from the clouds and all that.
And then he was, well, you know what Project blue Beam originally
was, right, I said, oh, no, I don't and he
said, well, it was an MK Ultra subproject, but it wasn't called
a Project Blue Beam. It's called Project Blue Bolt. And the what they
were trying to do with Project Blue Bolt was to put the vision, not
make it external to people, but to beam the hallucination directly inside of people's
heads, so instead of making it external to them, like something that they
see in the sky is actually a hallucination that's being beamed into your head.
And that made sense to me because then you can make other people see different
things than other people, because if everyone saw the same thing, I mean,
everyone's got cameras in their pocket. Now, you know you have a
very high definition camera on your phone that you can get video of something.
So if they did a big event like that, then they would see that,
well, this country is seeing Buddha, this other country is seeing Muhammad,
this other country is seeing Jesus. So why is all this stuff different?
It made more sense that, well, if they did it inside of
your head, if they beam the signal directly into your head, then it
could all be happening simultaneously. But everybody's seeing something different, right, And
then that correlates to what mk Ultra Monarch survivor Kathy o Brim I've talked about
on my show several times before that that's pretty much what they did with her.
But they did it with an extraterrestrial. They did it with a reptilian.
They showed her and holographic portrayal of a reptilian and tried to make her
believe that it was these extraterrestrial tillions that was responsible for all the stuff in
order to cover up government involvement and human beings actually being the ones to do
this. And that's what I think the agenda is behind the extraterrestrial narrative,
is to cover up the fact that it's all humans and it's always been humans.
But in order to take the blame away from humans, they've created an
invisible scapegoat, something that you never see, something that you can't prove exist,
something that you don't that no one can prove exists, there's no evidence
for. So if you can shift the blame to something that is questionable,
if it's even real or not, then you can continue to get away with
everything that you've been doing, all the other crimes, and the real humans
and the real people that are perpetrating this upon humanity just gets slid under the
rug. And I think even the hardcore UFO people call those like screen visions
or something where you've got this sort of screen reality in front of what's actually
going on, and it's funny that that would be, you know, an
admission. But at the same time, you have to assume that these programs
are actually harder to fool people with up close. You know, you'd have
to have several trained magicians on staff basically figuring out the best angles and the
best ways that you could have these things work out and not suspect that there
were humans behind it. But doing that brings a lot of heat, you
know, brings a lot of attention, and so you don't necessarily want that.
You got to kind of make do with what you have and just hope
that not enough people are into it. But I think times like now,
when people are focused on the UFO thing, they're really starting to ask the
tough questions of their own governments, is like, how much involvement is this
Because you guys were involved in MK ultra and you poison many, many thousands
of people, you know, and you had Clyde Lewis talking about how there
was experiments going on in West Virginia. Yeah, that was a very interesting
theory which I brought up my theory of what happened with the Mothman and he
had a whole new one and how it was kind of like, holy crap.
It makes a lot of sense, and of course we don't know if
it's true or because there's no evidence and no proof of it, but it's
a very interesting theory. But at least he agreed with me that they,
you know, purposefully brought down the silver Bridge and you know, did that
on purpose to distract away from something now, regardless if that was the Mothman
or if it was, you know, to get people off track on really
what was going on. And it's just a coincidence that nobody in Point Pleasant
after the silver Bridge collapsed ever saw the Mothman again, you know, And
I don't think that that's a coincidence. And putting two and two together,
the minut Black showing up to tell the people at Point Pleasant to kind of
stop talking about the moth Man. It kind of correlates when you put two
and two together. But you know, it's just a theory. But the
interesting part of screen Memories is that screen Memories first popped up with Bud Hopkins
in his book, and I believe in nineteen eighty it was either nineteen eighty
or nineteen eighty one called missing time, and he created a lot of different
theories that have been perpetuated with in the community. One is, you know,
of course, missing time. The other one is, you know,
screen memories and how we got these ideas and these thoughts were regressing so called
alien abductees and experiencers. Right, And this is where the whole thing of
like regression really like takes on a life of its own, because you know,
regression was never meant to, you know, hypnotic aggression was never meant
to like find out if you had been freaking abducted or that if you had
alien contact or like any of that stuff. It had everything to do with
like helping you better your life, like quit smoking, like you know,
help people with addictions and stuff like that. And then it's evolved into like
a past life thing or an alien regression thing or an alien abduction thing.
And yeah, and the problem is is whenever if you have somebody that already
thinks that they've been abducted, they go to a person that is quote unquote
specialized in alien abduction regression sessions. Right, what do you think that you're
going to find alien abduction regressions? That's right? And then if you go
to a you know, let's say, it's kind of like the theory that
I've you know, kind of been trying to talk to people about. It's
like, and I spoke about it with Clyde Lewis yesterday. You know,
if you take a paranormal investigator, you take them to a haunted location,
they're going to find they're gonna come out of there saying that the house was
haunted. Right, you take a Bigfoot investigator into that exact same house,
they're gonna come out and say, it's Bigfoot. Bigfoot's definitely here, Bigfoot's
been here. If you take an alien and a UFO investigator to the exact
same house, they're gonna come out with say, oh, it's it's definitely
aliens. You know, like we tend to just stay on our preconceived notions
of what we already believe, and when we already believe in something, it's
easy to see that everywhere. You know, It's kind of like that old
expression, if you look into something long enough, you can create whatever it
is that fits your agenda. You know, if you dig hard enough,
you can find whatever it is to support your your preconceived beliefs. Thoughts and
ideas. It's kind of like Bible right, Like you can the Bible is
like a catch all for everything, Like you can pretty much find an example
of anything in the Bible to justify your beliefs or your idea or whatever it
is that's going on in your life at that time. You can find a
reference for something that's happening to you in the Bible, right, And it's
done that way on it's written that way on purpose. Right. But at
the same time, I think people have done this naturally, like we see
the examples in polytheism where you'll have similar gods in different areas, but they
kind of change from one place to the next. And I think what it
really depends on is what the people are focused on, and I think that
goes back into what their professions are in that area and how they make their
living. So you'll have some Bible versus in a city that will be focused
on and then in a rural community, they're obviously going to be much more
agrarian in the Bible and they're going to be focusing on those things. So
it's almost like the land and how you work the land is sort of the
lens and how you view God and the supernatural and all the rest of these
things. You know, unfortunately that doesn't make for very easy communication, but
at the same time it makes sense and a lot of contradictions as well,
you know, like they can just contradict each other. And that's why there's
all these different sects of Christianity, you know, there's why there's all these
different denominations because they're like, oh, well, I don't believe in that
section that you're talking about. I'm going to go create my own church and
create my own thing where the people believe what I believe. You know,
it's the exact same type of rhetoric, and that's been spread across really everything.
And when you look into the MK Ultra programs, man, you see
that the government really was trying to bring the experiments and the things that they
were doing on an individual level to the public, but under the guise of
something virtuous. And that's something that's been a thing for a really long time.
It's always been in the guys of something virtuous, because the way to
get people on board with something is to make them believe that it's their idea
to do it. That's how everything works, that's how the whole AI thing
that we were talking about earlier. That's how all that works because four or
five years ago you had, especially people in this community, they were like,
oh, oh, I'll never use AIS the devil, I'll never mess
with no way, I don't want to know cyborgs run running my stuff,
you know. And now all those people are on board with it. They're
all using it right right, So what you do is that you have to
subvert them in a way that makes them think that they actually have a benefit,
that they're going to get something out of it. And then whenever a
few pe people hop on board with it and the others that were against it
for a long period of time sees what kind of benefit that it gave the
people that were into it, then they jump on board because they're like,
oh, well, I don't want to be at a disadvantage. Like these
people have an upper hand because they're using AI to create some of their content,
write their stuff, make AI photos, make AI videos, so I
might as well jump on the bandwagon too. And that's how things are really
gotten away with. But through studying these mk Ultra programs, you see that
and this is an important thing because a lot of people think that mk Ultra
was just about LSD and that's not true. That's uh, but that's what
they try and put it out there as like a like a wacky thing that
they don't do anymore. And then it all just was from this wacky guy,
Sidney Gottlieb that was into the occult and all this stuff, and he
was just trying to dose these people with LST to try and see if he
can mind control them and make them do things that they normally wouldn't do.
But that's through reading the documentation, which there's been a lot of them that
has been destroyed. I believe whenever the CIA got in trouble for doing the
mkulture programs, they ended up burning I think documentation for at least one hundred
and fifty to two hundred or maybe even more documents. So you have one
hundred and thirty nine subprojects of mk Ultra that are verified, but who knows
how many more that there were, and who knows how many more Canada also
got because whenever mk Ultra, you know, got in trouble and the CIA
got in trouble, they just outsourced all that to Canada and Canada kind of
took over the program after that. But when you look into these programs and
you read the documentation, which a lot of people don't because they they either
don't have the time, they don't want to do it, they think that
it's boring, But some documentation is really really important to read. You'll see
through the mk Ultra subprojects that not only were they using LSD, they were
using UH anti psychotics. Antipsychotics were tested on these mk Ultra victims before that
they were brought to the public. Anti depressing phyt huge all pretty much all
of them, and amphetamines emhetamines were tested on k Ultra victims before that they
were brought to the public. Which amphetamines is like adderall and brittle in which
adderall and brittlin, you know, that's given to our children at a really
young age for ADHD, you know. And all of those types of pharmaceutical
compounds and pharmaceutical drugs were tested on the people within the programs before they were
brought to the public. And it just brings into the question, well,
you know what's going on here? And when you look at the statistics,
which I looked them up, like I don't know, like a year ago,
and the most recent study that I could find was from twenty to fourteen
to twenty and sixteen, and that study said that forty eight percent of the
United States population was on some form of pharmaceutical drug. Now, that's an
alarming amount of people, very alarming, And I'm confident in saying seven to
eight years later after that study, it's dramatically gone up. I could confidently
say, even though there's not you know, confirmation on online, or there's
not any study that's been done in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
I can you could pretty much agree that you could say that more than half
of the United States is on some form of pharmaceutical drug. Now, what
is that doing to the population? You know? Is that stunning our spiritual
growth? Is that cutting off our connection to the earth? Is that cutting
off our our spiritual antenna? You know? Jerry Jerry Marzinsky Watch is a
psychiatrist and he went to I've had him on my show three times, I
believe. And he's a psychiatrist who read a wrote a book called The Amazing
Journey into the Psychotic Mind, and he went around to all of these prisons
and hospitals and emergency units and emergency care units, and he worked with schizophrenic
people, and he discovered that these drugs really do nothing and they pretty much
make the symptoms worse. Now that's not my opinion, that's his opinion.
He's a psychiatrist. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a psychiatrist. I
don't know, uh, you know, I can't comment on the effectiveness or
the non effectiveness of any of these drugs. And I've never used any of
them, so I don't know how they are. But he says that with
working with these schizophrenics and these people, which brings in a completely other conversation
of like these voices that these patients here, and the where do our thoughts
come from? You know, our thoughts, our own thoughts. And he
equates it to like, you know, our consciousness is like kind of like
a dial, right, like a radio frequency, And depending on where you
turn the dial on the radio band depends on the type of thoughts that you
get. So if you're turning it at high frequency, you're going to get
more positive thoughts. Of tuning it to lower frequency, you're going to get
low, you know, more malicious and more evil thoughts. And he equates
these schizophrenic people and these ones that have, you know, mental health problems.
As to being demonically possessed, No, I can't confirm or deny that
either, because I don't really know what a demon is, Like I don't
think anyone really knows what actual demon is. But if it was a demon,
then it would be in control of your thoughts. It would be a
voice. But the way that he explains it is it's not an external voice,
right. He says that it's not a voice that's talking to these people
that's different than what they are. You know, it's not like a I
am the voices, I am demon, beels abub or whatever. He says
that it's literally the just the voice in your head is alms like you,
but it's really destructive and very negative. It tells you all these evil things,
like to harm yourself, to harm others. And I think it's a
possibility that a lot of this has to do with drugs. Drugs is the
portal that opens this up. And I actually had him back on with another
gentleman. His title is Boston Boston two percent. That's his tag on a
social media and on TikTok, and I had him on and he's talking about
how methanphetamine just opened his like put him into like a complete psychosis where he
thought that he was God and that he had like all these superpowers and like
all this stuff that he's talking about. And I'm like, well, yeah,
I mean that makes sense that, you know, and ALYSSA drug use
is a really big factor as well, So you not only have pharmaceutical drugs,
you also have illiced drugs, like illegal drugs that you can't get from
a pharmacy or get with a doctor's prescription that almost sort of kind of does
the exact same thing. I mean, you can go into a psychosis with
cocaine, you can go into a psychosis with you know, crack, you
can go into psychosis with myths. Some people can go into a psychosis with
freaking downers, you know. So we're being hit from many different angles.
And I don't think that there's an actual study of how many people in the
United States are on illicit drugs. There may be, I might be able
to google it, but if you combine illicit drugs with pharmaceutical drugs, then
the numbers just go up, right, and they continue to go up.
So it's like, what is happening you're in. Of course, I want
to let you talk because I've been rambling for a second. No, I
think you're bringing up a really good topic there, which is the intersection between
drugs and spirituality. I think that's been you know, so played out when
it comes to hallucinogens and all the rest of these different mind expanding experiences,
that there's some sort of connection between how we perceive the world and how you
know, we interact with it. And I think, you know, for
a long time, you can find even references in the Bible, the marijuana
references, like cana in the Bible is actually marijuana. It comes from the
Proto Indo European word cana, which means cannabis, canna bossam, and so
they're referencing that as a sacrifice or a burnt offering. And so what you
can assume is that that's what was going on inside the temples all across the
Mediterranean, is they had these massive braziers full of cana that they would burn,
and you know, people would come to the temple and get really super
high as these offerings were going on. And so you know, that should
put some of the ancient religions into perspective is you know, if it doesn't
make sense, it's probably because the people who are experiencing these things were really
super high. You know, I agree. You know, having that perspective,
it brings us up to the CIA and what they've been doing using because
again what you keep talking about is that it's all sort of connected to prophecy.
They want to be able to say this is going to happen, and
then having the people experience that so that they can all be on the same
page, all beyond the same narrative. And that's the essence of what I
think mind control is is giving people a prompt having something happen, and then
shoveling them all into that narrative sort of portal or dichotomy so that you know,
they can destroy the evil doers and you don't have to spend as much
on military, right, so you can get everybody on the same page,
all of society, and then they go after the outsiders and increase your powers,
the one behind the whole process. And I think, you know,
if you look at what they were doing as a massive drug trial, when
it comes to you know, MK ultra, you start to see maybe the
reason why everybody's on these drugs today is because they know what it does to
people, and they know what it does long term, and the best pharmaceutical
results they could get were these you know, unscrupulous doctors like Jolly and West
who just basically went around dosing people whoever the government told them to. And
you see him right next to us that what's that hippies name? He died
recently, Charles Manson, right, And he's also close to the guy who
shot what's his name? The guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah RFK and
Jack Ruby too, yeah yeah, it's uh. Well. Then you also
have like Operation Midnight Climax. You have one of the operations that was destroyed
with the files that I was talking about earlier, was a was a speculatory
and the theory at this point because there's not any proof or evidence of it
because it was destroyed, which was called Project Spellbinder, which was a project
in order to mind control someone like mk ultrim a, someone to assassinate people.
And what the whole idea and the theory behind Project Spellbinder was to brainwash
someone to assassinate Fidel Castro. That's what it was. It was not out
of the realm of possibility that you know, violence is also a part of
this, not only subservience and you know the agenda, but also violence and
in some cases, like the theoretical projects spellbinder assassination as well. And that's
sort of what our next documentary is going to involve as well. So I
think one of the main goals of a good mind controled drug is to induce
apathy, because with apathy you could start to reprogram the individual, right,
so once you don't care so much about what it is you're doing, then
it can be really easy to get you into that next phase of well,
this is what you're doing. We're giving you this option. And one of
the most prominent and recorded drugs in that regard is one called scopolamine, and
that comes from this bort ahadow tree down in Colombia and South America, and
it's used down there by drug gangs and prostitutes as a method of doping someone
and then having them give over all of the information that they may need,
all of the money. They've even had people empty out their entire apartments of
all of their furniture so that this pimp in the prostitute can steal it.
It's called devil's breath, and this devil's breath. Scapolamine is a common mind
controlled drug down in South America. And it's really interesting because you know that
that was part of the mk Ultra program, but they only talk about LSD
because talking about scipolamine in some of these other quote unquote truth serums, because
scipolamine is also used in truth serum to get the person to be more relaxed
and able to be suggestible. Right. And so you've also got another truth
serum that's called sodium pentathol, and that's commonly portrayed on you know, lots
of different TV shows. They give somebody an injection, they put them into
the polygraph test and then they start to get loopy and dopey and start to
answer the questions a little bit more freely. But all of those were definitely
tested in mk Ultra, and it's not just limited to LSD, which didn't
have a high mind control quotient, but it did produce the type of hysteria
that they would want to have a mass population sort of induced into so that
they could, you know, come forward with the solutions. That's right,
problem problem action, problem reaction solution, right, that's the thing that they
always follow. So if you if you create the problem, you already know
what the reaction is going to be because it can only be a handful of
different things. So then you plan for all the different reactions and then based
off of those reactions, you already have the solution, all right. So
it's a plan on top of a plan on top of a plan, And
there's a detailed way within the mk Ultra documents on how they break down the
mind in order to insert the odds ideas and beliefs into people's eyes. Because
it was originally done with a drug that was called BEZ. Now I can't
pronounce the real title of what bez is because it's a really weird like quinsol
diosa binzel late or something like that, really weird name the actual pharmaceutical name.
But this substance was one hundred times more powerful than LSD and it was
like in like a powdered like a white powdered form. It would essentially make
people go out of their minds for long periods of time, like weeks and
weeks and weeks at a time. And this was originally tested on military personnel
to see if they could get these people then had top secret information or classified
information, if they could remove the top secret classified information from the military personnel's
had, so they wouldn't be able to reveal any of the military secrets,
so they can go out and live a normal life after their military service was
over. And once they figured that out, then they were like, okay,
well, if we can remove memories and thoughts and ideas and top secret
classified information from these military people's heads military personnel, can we insert ideas,
thoughts, and beliefs into their head? Right, So pretty much what they
would do is they would torture these subjects to a point to where they lose
their They lose common sense and like critical thinking, so it kind of wipes
their brain of like normal rational thoughts. And this torture doesn't have to be
like horrendously torture. Is I think that people have a wrong idea of of
like what torture can be. It doesn't have to be like physically brutal.
It can be psychologically brutal, right, right. It can be to the
point where, which is just an example, like you could be in a
small encased room. They could come in and tell you you have to put
your hands up on the wall and keep your hands on the wall with your
feet spread apart for twenty four hours. You know what that's psychologically going to
do to you. And if you fall, then they'll come in and taze
you or whatever. Which is just an example, not seeing that that really
happened, but it can be as something as simple as that, And the
psychological torture of just having your hands constantly on the wall not being able to
move or take your hands off the wall or move around is going to eventually
break you down. And I think that people think that it's like a like
a hardcore physical thing that they're going in and they're beating them and they're doing
that creates too much resistance. See that they want to break down people psychologically
because when you break them down their mental state down psychologically, that pretty much
clears out the common sense, critical thinking, and rational thoughts. So then
they can come in and reprogram your mind with something that may possibly be real,
might not be real, in order to implant thoughts and ideas into your
head according to the agenda that they want you to do. So then they
would come in and after this, after they felt that they had been broken
down enough psychologically they would come in. And this is the official version.
They could have been doing this many different ways, but the official version of
what psychic driving is as they would take any looped repeated audio message, something
that's just on a recorder that would play twenty four to seven for weeks and
days, and it could have had whatever on it. It could have been
as simple as you're nothing, your garbage, you know, everyone hates you,
or it could have been something way more nefarious, right, and nobody
really knows what was on those looped audio messages, and that kind of gets
tucked away in the subject's mind, like and then I'm thinking, well,
if they could do that with like a recorder and like a just an audio
message, could they have not a wheeled a freaking TV into the room and
played the same thing and also gave them a visual and an audio psychic driving
message. And then you can take that one step further. Could they have
not have put something on the subject's head? Could they have not put some
kind of goggles, some sort of VR technology on their head? And then
after they've been tortured and drugged and then they dozed them with some sort of
drug, put the VR simulation on their head. They're gonna believe it.
They're gonna believe whatever was on whatever was on that looped audio message, whatever
was on that TV screen, whatever was in those VR goggles. Well,
what's to what they refer to over and over again in the MK Ultra documents
is de patterning. So the D pattern that's the right. I was trying
to think of what that was called, and then you're correct, that is
what it's called, is de patterning. That's where they remove the common sense
and credit. Thank you, I appreciate that, right, But that's sort
of like the three step process. So this is why LSD was important is
because it aided in the de patterning. So it sort of takes you outside
of that normal sphere that you're comfortable thinking in. And then once you've got
that that place outside of it, then you can start to input those new
patterns that you want to see come about. And you know, it's funny,
for so many years the government said the mk Ultra projects were a failure,
and it's like, by what degree, by what metric are you calling
them a failure? And that was never explained. You know, it was
a success in showing that this is the way you do it. But maybe
LSD wasn't the drug that they were using, because again scopolamine or devil's breath
is right there, and they never talk about that in any mainstream sort of
examination of the mk Ultra program or what could have come out of it.
You know, yes, depatterning, drugging and then psyche driving. That's the
way that that it was done, and it's all over the documents, just
like you know what you said. And I think the the way to throw
the public off is to say that there wasn't any results for it and that
it didn't work because maybe it didn't work in the way that they wanted it
to work. But then they just tweak it and turn it into it because
normally whenever there's like an operation and the operation doesn't work out the way that
they wanted it to work out, they have figured out the way not to
do it right, so they can tweak it and adjust it, change the
name of it, make it a different program, run it under a different
name. But the testing phase of it was mk Ultra. The official mk
Ultra program was the testing phase was then trying to figure out how it works,
what they need to do, how they need to do it, and
then it got disclosed in order for everyone to be like, oh, well,
this was something that we did years and years and years ago, and
we're no longer doing it anymore. Bullshit, bullshit, you're not doing anymore.
I mean you can just look around you in the world and see that
it's a what's going on, you know, And it's the exact same thing
that happened with the Stargate project. They're removing Stargate projects that happened in nineteen
seventy eight and ran until ninety five. They did the exact same thing.
The CIA was supposed to take over the remote viewing program in ninety five.
Then the CIA came out and canceled the program and said that no intelligence data
had ever been collected from the program. Well that's bullshit too. Why would
you keep a program operating for fifteen to eighteen years if you didn't yield any
results. It's nonsense. You're not going to keep something running for that amount
of time and be useless. I think it's important for people to know that
the government has a different form of reproduction than human beings. They reproduce when
it comes to policy. So as those policies start to come into effect,
you get what's called fail forward. So what they'll do is they'll say publicly
we failed, and then privately they'll throw all of their stuff over to a
corporation that they've outsourced all of those duties to, and then they'll pick up
there and then anything that that corporation of that government contractor is doing is now
part of their corporate secrets, so they can keep that without any disclosure to
the rest of the public. So it's this constant process of starting with something
unethical, throwing it over to your business associates, letting those business associates take
it from there and use the same protocols and policies to advance the agenda that
was behind the whole project to begin with. That is a perfect example of
what's going on and what continue to go on. I mean, that's the
that's the way to do it. Because no private organization or government contractor is
required to disclose any information about any testing, any program, anything that they
that they've been doing. They're not because it's not a government it's not an
official government program. It's being as an outsourced government program to private companies.
So you got like s RI with the s R International with the remote viewing.
A lot of those stuff was funded by the c i A, funded
by the d i A, funded by the d O D and the Air
Force at one point, you know, and you have like you know,
raytheon, you got, you got what's the other one? Uh north of
you got big a low aerospace. You have all these different uh private government
contracting groups that are pretty much can considered the government at this point by how
many programs and operations that has been outsourced to them. But again they're private
companies, they're private organizations and nothing can Ever, they don't have to disclose
any information. And that's the way that a lot of this stuff has been
gotten away with is because the government starts at government discloses it says that there's
nothing to it, nothing happened, that wasn't successful. Then it's exactly what
you said. Then they just outsource it to these or they can do it
to a different country, like in the case of mk Ultra, they outsourced
all of the most of the mk ultra stuff to Canada, right which is
outside the government's The United States governments grasp and very little from those mk Ultra
programs from Canada has been disclosed, but most of them happened in like psychiatric
facilities like state hospitals and prisons and stuff like that, where like electroshock therapy
and like really torturous things were happening at mental hospitals, which then brings into
a whole other topic and a whole other thing too, because you know,
a lot of this stuff is being done on children as well, and that's
a really important topic to get into. And there is a Netflix documentary I
don't know if you've watched it, yeah, but it's called The Programs,
cons Cults and Kidnapping. And this documentary is unbelievable. I had no idea
that this was an actual thing, and I couldn't believe that it was actually
on Netflix. It was like, holy crap. I was shocked, right
well, behavioral modification schools, behavioral modification camps. There's actually another documentary that
came out, I believe in twenty twenty that was called Hell Camp or maybe
it's Camp Hell or something. And this whole thing started in this seventies in
Utah where they would take these kids. They would abduct these kids in the
middle of the night from their home. Their parents would pay this company in
this organization to have these men show up in a blacked out suv come to
these kids homes in the middle of the night, handcuffed, blindfold their kid,
throw them in the back of an suv, either throw them on the
plane or drive them if it's close enough to one of these behavioral modification schools
to a behavioral modification camp, or like I was mentioning, the first one
was in Utah and it was like a sixty day journey through the freaking wilderness
where these kids would just be out hiking for sixty days. But the really
nefarious ones are these behavioral modification schools where they're actually like they're not in the
wilderness, they're not outside, They're in like a building. They're not allowed
to leave the building. It's like a psychiatric facility for children for kids,
and they would be beaten, they would be torture, they would be psychically
driven. If people really need to watch this documentary, I did a show
about this with Shane the Ruin or called the Academy programs. But that is
going on, and it is still going on to this very day, still
a thing that still happens. Paris Hilton was also involved in this. She
was taken to a facility called Provo Canyon where she was tortured. You know,
these are like these are mini mind control freaking facilities, that's what they
are. And they have them repeating these phrases over and over again. Like
it's unbelievable the footage that is in this documentary of abuse and torture that these
children were going through. And they also had the parents brainwashed. They would
they would do these meetings, like these monthly meetings. Dude, this is
wild shit. They would do these monthly meetings with these parents that put their
kids inside of these schools, and a lot of them were really expensive,
like upwards of like thirty to forty thousand dollars a year to some of these
behavioral modification schools. And they would have these meetings monthly where they would have
these all these parents come and they would have them like dress up, like
they would have men like dressed up in women's clothing and like all the dresses
and like all this weird shit, and they were like doing like meditations and
they were like all holding hands, like running around in a circle and shit,
it's like a ritual, dude. It was the weirdest freaking thing that
I've ever seen. So not only did they have the kids, the kids
weren't able to tell their parents what they were going through in the tortuous conditions
and like not being fed, being beaten, being you know, tortured,
pretty much being mind controlled, being told to psychically driven by repeating phrases like
hands up, hands down, hands the side, hands together, like over
and over and over again for like hours. One lady on the documentary said
that they would use the opening to A two thousand and one A Space Odyssey
on repeat over and over and over again, which sound which is exactly what
I just explained. Is what psychic driving was, is it looped the audio
repeated message over and over again. And it's just unbelievable that this is even
legal, that it's even legal to do. How can you do that?
And the thing about these programs is a lot of them were completely unlegitimate because
they they basically say that, and a lot of the kids weren't even that
bad of children. They weren't. That's the whole The problem with these programs
is that it's the parents thinking that their children are unruly and unbehave children when
they're really not. The parents just don't want to deal with them, so
they It's almost it's literally like a psychiatric facility, some of the insane asylums
that were in the United States and the very beginning, because whenever those first
opened up, you could take a family member, you could take your wife,
you could take your child. You could just drop them off at this
psychiatric insane asylum and they would admit them for nothing. You could just say,
oh, my my wife isn't abaying my uh, she's not doing exactly
what I want her to do, and they would take her and torture her,
electric shocker, hydrotherapy her, do all this torturous stuff, maybe even
lobotomizer to perform surgeries on her. For all her all the husband said is
that she wouldn't take out the trash a couple of times. It's ridiculous stuff
like that, right, And these kids are not bad kids, they're not
that unruly, but they're put in this situation. Their kids pay this company
to come and abduct them. They take them to this facility. They're not
able to leave. They're being beaten, they're being mind controlled, and they
say that they have to obey the program in order to graduate. So whenever
you graduate the program, you get a diploma, high school diploma. But
it turns out that the high school diplomas weren't even real r they weren't even
real high school diplomas. They were fake high school diplomas. So everyone that
went through this facility, that graduated at the age of seventeen or eighteen doesn't
even have a freaking high school diploma. So they basically went through all that
for nothing. They have to go and get their their ged. Well.
I think it's important that it took part. It took place in Utah because
Utah is the you know, alphabet agency playground. They love recruiting from Utah.
They love having Mormons join up. I think most of the FBI are
Mormons. A lot of the CIA are Mormons because a lot of what Mormonism
is is keeping secrets and being able to keep secrets, and even the you
hear a lot of Mormons on podcasts talking about how they would never reveal what
they've actually done in these confessional sessions because then they get in trouble, right,
But that teaches the children how to lie, and it teaches them how
to cheat, and it teaches them how to get away with stuff in front
of authorities when really you want to have an open dialogue and an open communication
with your kids. But at that point there is no more open communication.
It's only lies. And so you know, having that take place in Utah
is a big giveaway. Who is behind it. Well, that's where the
original process and the original foundation for what would later become behavioral modification schools,
starting with the wilderness retreats, but it branched out into schools and they're located
all over the United States, And in the early two thousands, is not
just Utah. The one that the Netflix documentary that I'm talking about, the
program cons cults and kidnapping, happened in upstate New York in a place called
Ivy Ridge. So it's not just it's not just Utah. It's kind of
like everywhere. But Utah is a big hub for it. Arizona is another
big hub for it in New Mexico, so like that part of the sort
of Midwest area. Yeah, four Corners is the is really the hub for
a lot of these behavioral modification schools. And I mean Paris Holton I think
went to the one in Utah. It became a school after it had become
a wilderness retreat. So I mean, it's just wild, dude, it's
wild what they're what. I mean, it's basically a human trafficking, That's
what it is, right, And in some form or another, we've had
institutionalized human trafficking in America since the very beginning. And you know, you
don't really think about it like that, but that's really the case. You've
got slavery going on. Then you've got which is interesting too, because the
underground Railroad was a project by Northern troops. You know, it was a
project by the government, and it was funded by the government, and that,
you know, was also a human trafficking ring. And then you keep
on going through the years and you find it over and over again. You've
got these orphan trains going around at the turn of the century, a huge
human trafficking coming directly over from Europe and then just taking these kids and plucking
them out, you know, wherever people wanted to bid on them and buy
these orphans quote unquote orphans. They weren't actually orphans, they had parents.
They just bought the kids and shuttle them out to the American West, you
know, and a lot of those kids, we never know what happened to
them, and so this is just really an extension of that whole project.
And what I think Jerry Marzinski was really important about his work is is there's
no time limit on anything he's talking about. It's always been this way,
you know, and having that as a clue and knowing other observant people,
maybe psychopaths have been watching this for centuries. They kind of figure it out
after a while, and they sort of keep those secrets to themselves and spread
them amongst themselves, and then we get massive states, you know, working
on the same principles. Yep, sorry, coffee and try to eat over
sickness here the yeah, And Jerry Marzinski's work is really incredible. I mean,
he's got them, he's got the data. He's talked to a lot
of these schizophrenaly schizophrenic mentally ill patient as he sees these voices and that there's
patterns to these schizophrenic people they talk about the same thing. The dialogue between
the voices that they're hearing and their own voice is like almost identical. It's
almost the same thing. So there's only there's only a few conclusions that you
can really come to if you're seeing all these weird and strange patterns within each
and every single person. They're different, different people, but all their experiences
are typically the same. You know, it's always a negative voice. It's
never positive. It's always telling them the harm themselves if they well, I
think first it's, you know, harm someone else, and then if they
can't harm somebody else, it's harm yourself. You know, Pluck your eye
out of your head and we'll leave you alone. You know, cut your
tongue out and we'll leave you. Those are just examples, not saying that
those actually happen, but or cut yourself and we'll we'll stop, we'll stop
messing with you. And then they just never do, you know, they
just keep at you. And there's a lot of instances where the voices will
be correct. It's really weird. It's really strange. Like there's instances where
there were people that were told to run out into traffic and that they would
be safe and that they would be protected, and then when I ran into
traffic, got hit by a car, got up and just walked away unscathed.
Right, weird, weird and crazy stuff, especially when it comes to
meth because what you find is that a lot of meth heads have similar instances,
similar experiences with shadow people. And you know, meth is normally considered
a mind controlled drug, but any mind altering drug can be a mind control
drug it's done in the right way. And so these shadow people, you
know, I think it's related to the extreme sleep deprivation that goes on when
it comes to meth. So you end up seeing these things that normally your
mind filters out, and they all have similar experiences with them, Like these
shadow people are just watching them and they can't figure out why, you know,
they're having these experiences. They talk it over with other people who have
done meth and they're like, yeah, I had those shadow people too.
So it's really interesting how there is that crossover and something that seemingly metaphysical can
manifest for multiple different people. Yeah. And then I mean there's been people
with the like the gentleman that I was talking about that did the show with
Jerry Margizen scheme. His name is Michael Dirk and which is on my show,
and you want to check it out, it's on Reason by Jerons on
YouTube. But he basically, you know, talks about how he would see
full on people that weren't there, like full on human beings that nobody else
can see, that we're interacting with him, that he was speaking with,
that he thought was there, but wasn't there. It's wild And I think
a lot of it does have to do with, uh, sleep deprivation,
because methamphetamine is a common thing to the people do not sleep on because and
the more that you don't sleep, the more your your body's your mind starts
to go and you start to hallucinate things. Yeah, I think that that
should be a common like a study and not not to like usemphetamine or methamphetamine
for the study, but just to see how long someone can stay awake and
what the effects are of that when when at what point do they start to
loosen? At what point do they start to see things that aren't really there?
And can they get back to normal when their their mind has been that
far gone Because some people they that are on these types of drugs, they
just don't come back like they're they're like perma burnt, perma burnt right,
you know, permafried right. It really doesn't take too much too A lot
of people think that, you know, these things can be something that you
come back from, but if you look at the chemical potency of a lot
of these mind control drugs, they do permanent harm to the brain. So
and in the doses that the CIA used in the nk Ultra experiments had a
lot of permanent effects on the people that they tested on, especially some of
the people who you know, killed themselves because of it. But I think
that was more of like a cover up operation. They knew that giving a
certain amount to one of the members who might be going public would result in
a plausible, plausibly deniable death. Yeah, you have those types of strange
things all over the place. You have Sidney Gottlieb dosing some of the CIA
personnel with unknowingly with LSD, one of them committed suicide. You also have
the instance of James Forrest All, which was the Secretary of Defense. There's
speculation and theory that maybe he was dosed with some sort of hallucinogenic as well,
and then or he was murdered. And then there's also theories and thoughts
of like an LSD aerosol, it can also be used in the same type
of way, kind of like the Devil's breath thing that you're speaking about,
that it could be done in a way that can be put through the ventilation
system of a building or your house or or something like that to you know.
And that's a big theory that I got with our our next film.
So I don't want to give too much away on the aerosol aspect of this.
But there has been a history, a really big history of people being
dosed with these hallucinogenic drugs unknowingly, and that's a very scary thing. I
mean, we have reports of all the time of like women going to bars
and being dosed with weird freaking drugs and like you know, date rape drugs
and all that and stuff like nowadays, you know, so and there's a
long history of using these this and that would have to be the scariest thing
that you could possibly go through. It. Like taking some hallucin genic drug
recreationally and knowing that you take it is one thing, But unknowingly taking it
right, that's gonna bug you out, dude, Like that's gonna, you
know, get your brain pretty much a deep pattern right there, because you're
not going to know what's going on. Like why am I experiencing this?
I didn't knowingly take anything right. I've known a few people that's been dosed
with lst unknowingly and it's been a really terrifying experience for them. Do they
think that they're losing their mind right now? I'm not sure if inducing vomiting
would be the thing to do, but I know that in a lot of
cases they talk about activated charcoal as being a mitigation tool for when it comes
to if you feel like something is changing, and it's very harmless. So
if you carry around activated charcoal, if you've got, you know, a
night out on the town, having some activated charcoal that you could take as
soon as you're starting to feel weird, right, take two, you know,
little pills, and then you're starting to mitigate some of that poison that's
affecting your body. Activated charcoal is something to carry around without too much trouble.
You know, they're like, why why would I need to carry around?
Just the thought in the theory that someone would need to carry around activated
charcoal dispersed being unknowingly drugged is alarming, right, Why would we Why would
that ever be a thought? But that's the type of world that we live
in. You know, it's strange terms, especially if you're in Columbia and
a lot of people are running around with Devil's breath. You've got about twenty
minutes to get out of there, or you are going to basically be a
zombie, and you're going to be a zombie for about eight hours. If
they get the dosage right, they get the dose that's wrong, you could
die. So having that activated charcoal and having the ability to escape those precious
moments after you start to feel weird before you start to go into a completely
deep patterned state are the most critical. So you've got a very short time
window, and if you're going to start mitigating that, I think have an
activated charcoal. Even if somebody else is having an experience, having your own
activated charcole would be preferable. I'm not sure about what other chemicals there are,
but this is sort of like the catch all. If you want a
good catch all, that's one way to go. And once you can start
to you know, stay loocid. That's the key is to stay lucid in
these situations because if you can't stay loocid, you're going to find out it's
not going to go well for you. Noah, and some people can have
a really that they're mentally strong and they're like psychically strong and they have a
really good mental capacity. But just wrapping your brain around what's happening to you
is probably the hardest thing, you know, because it's a scary process of
not knowing exactly what's going on because you didn't knowingly take some kind of drug.
Like, if you knowingly take a drug, you're expecting to feel some
sort of way different than the way that you were previously feeling, so you
know what's going to happen. But unknowingly getting dosed with a drug is a
completely different story because in your mind saying well, where did this come from?
Who did this? What is this? And it becomes a the patterning
tactic to me because you know, you can't wrap your head around why and
who did this? You know? Right? And not every drug affects people
the same way, So having these different chemicals come into your body is not
a given that you're going to have the same output. So a lot of
these things can affect people in completely different ways and that they don't see coming,
especially when it comes to allergies and things like that, which brings up
what I think is the number one mind control drug, which is wheat.
Right, we've got bread, which creates. You know, these gluten allergies,
right, these gluten allergies are the result of massive swelling and inflammation and
having an inflamed brain, you're not able to make decisions as well as you
were before. And if you think about the history of humankind and the making
of cities and clustering all these people together, that came about because of these
grains that create a foggy perception of reality because you've sort of decided you're going
to spend the rest of your life in this partially inflamed state. And once
people get out of that inflame state, they're like, I can think clearly,
so and what do we see associated with wheat is ergot. Ergot fungus
is where we get LSD from. So it's interesting how all these sort of
chemicals kind of have an interplay on the level of well, you know,
we created wheat and we really likes what we've done with it, so it
has it died out. It's it's sort of become domesticated, and it allows
us to continue sort of harvesting it in the way that we do. It
doesn't shut down, it doesn't have a you know, a huge reaction to
the environment. That it's in. So it's like all of these things come
together to create environments cities that allow people who want to centrally control things to
do so. You know, so when Ergot poisoning also being responsible for apparently
the Salem witch trials as well, and the whole idea of where we get
the witches from in the first place is supposedly from which is well women,
it's a theory and speculation. I don't think there's any proof for it,
but I think it's just interesting that they would wipe the substance on, like
on on a broom, and then they would get on the broom and then
the substance would absorb into their skin, and it was a psychedelic substance.
And uh, it's just an interesting theory of how which is the whole idea
of a witch writing a broom came about? Was from a woldersnogenic substance being
put on a broom and then them getting on the broom naked and absorbing into
their skin. And that's where we get the whole idea of which is being
on a broom. But er Got poisoning, for sure, that is a
I'm pretty sure that that has been connected to the Salem witch trials and being
a part of the reason why the women sail and we're executed because they were
all tripping. They're all tripping balls, just like what you were mentioning earlier
with these people that you know in biblical times and tripping balls du braying down
these wild and wacky stories, right. And you've also got the Oracle at
Delphi, where they've got this oracle sitting atop this volcanic crevice inside of a
cave, you know, taking in these fumes and then relating visions of the
future. Right, it's sort of like it's all tied into this sort of
altered state of consciousness to be able to, you know, see beyond the
physical world's physical reality, and in a lot of ways that that is a
huge threat to the powers that be. I watched this movie last night called
The Illusionist with Edward Norton, and in that movie, he's seen sort of
bringing back the dead in these hollow that he's created, and in doing so,
the people of this Austrian I think it's just Austria, they decide that
they're going to follow him instead of following their king. So it's like the
belief that this guy could contact the spirits made him a more central figure than
the prince who was running that town. And so the idea there is that
if you can start to show people a different way or some other vision of
the future, you could kind of command their actions. And that kind of
goes back to the Assassins or the Hashashin, which would be this group of
people who use potent chemicals to drug these children into thinking that they're seeing the
afterlife. And the afterlife that they set up was this massive play stage where
they believed that they were in paradise and then they would drug them again,
they would wake back up. These assassins as they're called, would become fearless,
you know, murderers, so they didn't have any fear of death anymore.
So they would go out there and kill anybody who this Assassin's guild wanted
debt and the use of mind control chemicals in that regard is just amazing.
I mean, like this guy figured it out. He had this whole beheading
scenario where he promised he could bring this person back to life. So he
set up this sort of magic trick where they could speak right, and so
he would have his troops come in there and show them that he had this
person's head on a platter and it was speaking, and that after it was
over with, he would actually behead the person to show that, yeah,
look this head was really a real person's head and it was really talking to
you. And you know, the unfortunate victim would be just a prop in
this whole sort of magic trick to it. All of the troops on board
with what he was doing, and they would just kidnap these orphans from all
over the Middle East and turn them into the perfect assassins. And this was
in the thirteen hundreds. Unbelievable. That's wild, tricking people in the believing
in the afterlife, under the under a hallucinogeny drug to turn them into assassins
because they know for sure that the afterlife exists. M that's wild. That's
wild. See, all these things can there's no telling what they've done and
how they've how they've done it because the mind is such a fragile thing and
the way that they can, the techniques and the things that they may have
done will never really know. But that is very that is very interesting,
right this kingdom. I think you've heard of Shambalah. Right, So these
are the halls of Chambala, and you know, that's what they were talking
about, is like this is the afterlife, this is this great place.
And it was a very small kingdom, the Hashashian Empire, and they sort
of had a love hate relationship with the Templars and so this is actually before
thirteen hundred, but like they dominated the region because everybody was scared to death
of this guy's abilities, right, And so it's the fear that really creeps
into other people's minds once they start to see these things happen, then the
fear sort of takes over and leads the way from there. And all we've
seen since COVID basically is one fear tactic after another. It's just constantly trying
to get people in this fear state so that you can lead them better in
the direction that you want them to go. Well, you have other techniques
that have been done as well, you know you have, especially when it
comes to these UFO call its like you have to make yourself be perceived as
something bigger than what you are, and that and that you're better than everyone
else and that you're the only person that can do this that you're the prophet,
that you're the Messiah, that you're the reincarnation of this famous historical figure.
They're all famous reincarnations of historical figures. They all claim that they're the
only ones that can disseminate this knowledge to the people. They're the only ones
that are in communication with Ashtar thirty three, Galactic Federation of Planets, the
Great White Brotherhood, Afreaking Avians. You know, it's they have to put
themselves on a big pedestal, and that is a common theme with any cult.
The Williams some of in contact with Williams, Robin Williams. You got
to be in contact with Robin Williams. He's got to be a part of
the Galactic Federation and assist you in your healings for one hundred and twenty two
dollars through Zoom, and he's got to appear to you in your in your
bedroom at night. That's a real thing, having the Love as one cult
with Amy Carlson, And that's the common thing with anybody that is perceived to
And it's so interesting too, because those types of people seem to be the
most popular people for some reason, and it's so strange, like it's the
ones that are that profess to have something that nobody else has. You know,
it's not like somebody like me that is just looking at research and digging
into things and trying to figure out like truths and you know that does real
work. You know, it's the people that profess to know something that you
don't know, and instead of telling you that, they keep that information to
themselves when the information is completely one made up information, it's not real.
But that attracts an audience, right, that attracts intrigue. You know,
people don't want to listen to hardcore factual information, which really bewoters me,
doesn't make any sense to me at all. Like I would much rather listen
to someone that is critical, common sense, has good information, accurate information,
trustworthy information. Then I would rather listen into somebody that has that is
seen that they are the only one that has this information. They know what's
going to happen. They have all these wild and wacky predictions for twenty years
in the freaking future or next month or next year or any of the stuff.
And it's a newsflash because it's the same thing that happens every single time.
It never happens none of it ever happens, but people keep falling for
the same nonsense over and over and over again. And these people on mass
are really really big following of people they do. They get thousands and thousands
of views, like hundreds of thousands of subscribers, like everything they post just
completely goes viral. It's unbelievable. I don't understand it. I really don't
get it, and I think I get I got a good explanation for you.
So let's say that most of the people following them have had something unexplainable
happen in their own lives, and so the very first thing that they think
is that since this was unexplainable and it happened to me, there must be
more completely unexplainable things happening that I can sort of gravitate to now. Instead
of coming back and saying, how do I break this down rationally? Put
the things I do understand in certain containers, put the things I don't understand
in other containers, and then try to walk through the steps to get to
this greater understanding of truth. Instead of doing that, they go, well,
I've got to look for somebody who's got the maximum amount of unknowable stuff
that's going on, and so it's almost like a traumatization through inexplicable circumstances.
That's yeah, like almost like a trauma bond. That's exactly what it seems
like. And people love the unknown, and that's why I'm convinced that people
really don't want the answers, and that's why content like mine I have to
work one hundred times harder than other people, because really people they don't want
the truth. They don't want ration. They don't because there's already enough problems
in their life as it is, right. They want the unexplainable. They
want the fairytale nonsense because it takes them away from their normal, everyday,
mundane life, you know, and turns it. Because that Netflix docuseries that
I had Clyde Lewis on that he was on episode seven with the Blobs of
the Blobs of Washington State. He was in episode seven of that. He
was like the main person of that whole episode. Every one of those episodes
were like weird, supernatural, strange, mystery things and they're unexplained, right,
I Mean, there's rational thought and rational people inside of them that has
their opinions. But at the end of every one of them. They're like,
oh, it's we still don't really know what happened in this scenario,
and it's the most watched Netflix document docuseries of all time. People want that
stuff and it's the frontier, and I think that's great. I mean,
that's what's always driven people, is where the frontier is. And we're at
the frontier now where we have to start looking at the unexplainable stuff because there's
no more continence for us to divisit, at least that we know of.
So, you know, there's the front tier is basically the mind and what's
unknowable all around us, you know. I mean there's been this big push
for WU things all the time. You know, it's it's and WU is
really popular right now. It's popular then, it's than it's ever been.
And I think that that is in due part two religion as well, and
people not wanting to believe that this is the only thing that we have,
that life has no meaning, that we're just here floating in space, that
we're just a rock in the middle of nowhere and life has no meaning and
life has no purpose. You know, they would rather take you know,
the extraterrestrials. The universe is so populated that there's these other civilizations and these
glanky civilizations running around on spaceships. There's life elsewhere on the planet, even
though there's no evidence and no proof of it. They would rather take that
than the example of us being alone. And I think that in my personal
view, us being alone is a way more fascinating thought and a way more
fascinating idea, like why why would we be alone? What is this?
You know? What? What are we doing here? Is just a simulation?
You know, I think there's way more questions and way more things to
ask if we are the only living things in the universe, If we are
the only physical incarnation on the only planet that is inhabited by human like beings,
right, well, there's a way more fascinating than we're just a you
know, a little blimp on the radar of the entire universe that there's thousands
and thousands of other planets. Because that doesn't make us special, That doesn't
make us special at all. It actually makes us more special if we are
the only living beings in the universe, right, I would mean are very
important? Well, I think it's it's interesting how the narrative flipped on the
UFO disclosure thing. I mean, we see them sort of going from,
well, we've got these what do they call them? This non human intelligences?
Right? What does that mean? Like we've got all these new abstractions
that they've sort of jumped to instead of talking about their involvement in all of
these other cases. Now, what you've been doing is showing people, yes,
there's government involvement in all of these cases, that should cause you to
question the validity of all of it. But instead they sort of had to
jump to other sort of new abstractions to kind of keep people on that same
level of thinking that maybe it was something else, like non human intelligence is
not a computer? Is a computer a non human intelligence? Could I use
AI in this process and then say I've been in contact with the non human
intelligence? That's right. All these words have multiple meanings in multiple things.
In the public said it means one thing, and the people that are listening
to think is that it means one thing, and then what they're actually meaning
is something completely different. And that's been the game from the very beginning.
Like a lot of these buzzwords and a lot of the things that people talk
about have ulterior and multiple meanings and what you think that it means isn't the
correct meaning from my personal not you, but you know people within the community,
right, like you got crash retrieval. Crash retrieval's a big buzz where
the floats around the community a lot, and people are like, oh,
well, crash retrieval means that it was something that was that was visible.
They saw it fall out of the sky, They saw it on radar,
and they called the the military. The military wind and excavated and found it,
and they took it back to the freaking lab, the deep underground military
basis, and then reverse engineered it and turned it into their own technology.
Well, that doesn't have to be the case. One, It doesn't have
to have happened in modern times. It could have happened hundreds of years ago,
could happen thousands of years ago. The craft could have been dug up
in an archaeological dig in modern times, but it could have been there for
thousands of freaking years. Right. Alien invasion. Right, you go to
a different country, you're an alien. You're not from that country. You're
an alien there, you're just visiting. You're an alien. Right, you
just put freaking illegal in front of alien, and you have a completely different
term of what an alien means. Right, Everyone's like, oh, well,
you know aliens are all around us, they've always been here. You
know, they're creating alien human hybrids. Well, when you just tack on
illegal in front of alien, it makes a lot more sense. Okay,
they are everywhere, they are here, they've always been here, and they
are making hybrids. Right. I think it's so funny that people don't think
of words like brushstrokes. Right. So if we're gonna, if we're gonna
take these abstractions, what we should do is think of them like a brush
joke on a painting. And if you have absolutely no idea why that brush
joke is right there on that painting in the place that it is, maybe
it's time to look at it differently because it definitely means something to somebody.
And once you can have access to that meaning, you can kind of get
away from some of the confusion that it produces. You know, Well,
then you have like national security threat. Right. That's something that the UFO
community, especially the big proprietors of disclosure, talk about, is that this
is a national security threat. Every time they have a panel or a governmental
organization, it's always, ah, these things are repeeding our airspace. They're
just all over military airspace. They're they're they're traveling with impunity and like all
this stuff. Well, if you look at what national security threat actually means,
a national security threat is another country threatening our country or the citizens of
a country threatening the country itself, right, the government, Yeah, that's
what a national security threat means. So it makes more sense to me that
a national security threat would be that this is our technology, it's our military
drones, it's our military craft, and if another country finds out that it's
our craft, then they and they figure that out and they're like, this
isn't really unidentified flying out, this isn't really UAPs, it's your guys' craft.
Then we get exposed. And then if that other country gets a hold
of that advanced military technology and they do it too, then that's the national
security threat. Right, Not because extraterrestrials are flying around in American airspace or
unauthorized airspace. It's because if another country finds out that it's our technology,
then we're screwed. That's what they mean by national security threat. But it's
been hit under the guys of ufology and hit under the guise of the community.
And when people would hear national security threat under the context of UFOs and
UAPs, they automatically assume that it's extra tresh true. Right, Well,
that goes straight back into the MK ultra. You know, we can't reveal
our own crimes because that would be a threat to national security. That would
be a threat to us the people who committed the crimes exactly. So I
think this has been a great episode. I love talking my control with you,
but to tell people where they can find your documentaries and tell them what's
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x at raised by Giants eight. Thanks for having me on. Brother,
really appreciate it. Is a great conversation, absolutely absolutely wonderful. I can't
wait for your new documentary to come out about all this sort of stuff.
So it's been great having you on. Thanks for joining us, everybody.
I'll see you again next time.