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Imagine world where you can see anyone, go anywhere, do anything. Are

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the artificial intelligence created to protect us? Detonated a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.

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We are seeing ongoing cyber attacks across
the country. We have unconfirmed reports

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of a large seismic event off the
California coast, with reports of power outages

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across the United States. Nineteen states
have succeeded. The United States Army rams

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of activity. The White House issued
warnings to the Western Forces as well as

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the Florida Alliance. Sure President assures
the uprising booming down with swiftly. Hello

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and welcome to another episode of the
Headless Giant Podcast. I got my buddy

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Rider lead and we're going to be
talking about mind control drugs and mind control

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operations. Talking a little bit about
what you can expect to see from mind

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control drugs, some of the symptoms, some of the history, and let's

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get into it. So I guess
we're going to talk a little bit about

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MK Ultra program. This is Rider
Lee Raised by Giants podcast. Why don't

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you introduce them yourself and tell people
where they can find you. What's up?

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Brother, Thanks so much for having
me on. Really appreciate it.

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Always love these kind of lead back
conversations of some of the best ones that

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I've had or super laid back and
chill. Yes, you can find me

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on Raised by Giants, on YouTube
and Indian all podcast platforms. You can

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follow me on Raised by Giants,
eight, on Twitter and well Twitter x

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and Instagram at Raised by Jarian's Pod. And I am back on Facebook.

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Yes, after a half, well
more than almost a year hiatus from Facebook,

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I am now back because you know, you got to utilize all those

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platforms, my friend, you got
to do do the whole deal. When

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you're a content creator, you can't
be slacking on a lot of those platforms.

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So thanks for happy. Even though
it's distasteful, I get on Facebook

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and I feel like I got to
take a shower afterwards. It's like,

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oh, it was so toxic,
so toxic on on Facebook. But what's

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interesting is that like TikTok, but
trying to do the TikTok band, And

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regardless of what you think of like
TikTok, I think that the reason that

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they're hiding it under the guys that
is China and like a data collection thing

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when it's really not. It's really
about the ability to blow up and go

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viral. They don't want normal everyday
people having the ability to amass thousands and

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thousands of views. You know,
TikTok is kind of well, not so

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much anymore, but it used to
be the way that YouTube was. Remember

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YouTube back in the early two thousands
to mid two thousands, Like people would

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just blow up on there because the
algorithms supported it. And that's kind of

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what TikTok was, and that's why
they were going after TikTok, you know,

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hardcore and saying, oh, it's
trying to spy, which it may

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be, who knows, but at
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your videos out regardless of what you
said or what the content was even about.

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So I think that that's what's going
on with this government TikTok band.

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It's not about data, it's not
about Chinese spying on us. It's literally

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the ability to blow up and go
viral, and they don't want to just

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give that ability to anyone and everyone. So they're starting to reel that back

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now. And now TikTok is getting
more community guidelines stuff, just like what

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YouTube did with people, right,
they can just slap on the community guidelines

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violation for whatever it is that they
want, even though though you may not

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have even have done anything. So
that's the direction that TikTok is going.

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So really, X is our only
uh free speech platform, so well,

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I mean it's it's definitely better than
a lot of the other ones, right,

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you can pretty much get on there. I know that there's still been

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people that's lost their account and gotten
violations and all that, but for the

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most part, for me, I've
never gotten anything on X ever. But

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I've gotten them on Instagram, I've
gotten them on Facebook, We've gotten them

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on YouTube, gotten them on TikTok. Right, it's like, as soon

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as I start to get any kind
of momentum going, it's like boom,

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immediately a freaking community guidelines violation every
time, everywhere but acts. But you're

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trying to break stories, that's the
that's the problem. If you're coming out

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with rehashed old material that a lot
of other people have done, they don't

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care so much. But if you've
got original reporting and you've got original perspectives

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and original you know, breaking news, they don't want that. They don't

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want that at all. And you
know, in a lot of ways,

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I see that as sort of like
the mind control aspect. It's it's you've

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got to control the filters, right, So if you can control the filters

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as to what people are focusing on
and thinking about, you can have a

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much greater degree of control. And
I think we saw that really with the

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with the Google studies that they were
doing, where they actually looked at which

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search results popped up most often,
and they found that with a little bit

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of manipulation, you can basically control
a person's attention and focus it towards the

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places you want them to go.
And in an election year, that's incredibly

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important. But well, not only
that, you've got Google's AI doing all

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kinds of wacky things. Well yeah, Google's AI like given diversity and like

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creating people out of thin air,
and you know, it's wild. I'm

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pretty sure Google's AI has lost millions
of dollars based off of the bogus results.

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Whenever you type in something you know
and they give you stuff that isn't

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true, you know, it's like, well, you know what's going on

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here? I thought Google was supposed
to be the arbiter of truth and the

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Google AI is just making up a
bunch of nonsense. And throwing people into

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roles that they weren't supposed to,
that they were never in. You know,

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it's it's so interesting that people think
that we live in such an advanced

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society, in such an advanced world
when and that thing is, you know,

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can just you get better and get
better and better? And I'm like,

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well, you know, is it
really is AI really that good?

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I haven't seen AI really produce quality
things, right, Well, that's the

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point is that it's low quality and
mass production, you know. I mean

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it's all you see everywhere is just
this low quality AI video and just slapped

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out there. All these people who
do voice acting and everything else. They're

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all out of a job. You
know, why would you need them?

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You just need three minutes of their
speech, you know. And writers too,

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you know, writers are really going
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and TV writing. And I think
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whole writer strike in Hollywood, right, It was like, oh, well,

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you guys don't want to work,
you guys want to be paid more.

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Well, guess what we're gonna do. We're just gonna have AI take

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all your jobs. AI is now
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shows, you know. I mean, I'm pretty sure that what's that one

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movie where they had the evil the
Evil kids Superman. It wasn't like Superman,

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but it was you know, gave
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was no, no, no,
no. It was like a rated R

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like Superhero movie where it was like
a kid and then he was like an

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evil Superman. I can't think of
the name bright Burn. No, isn't

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that bright Burn? I don't know. Anyway, they're making a sequel to

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that movie, and it's going to
be completely written by AI, right,

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and they could have AI actors and
everything and just go in and re edit

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it. All you gotta do is
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pretty high quality video. It's almost
indistinguishable from you know, regular video.

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And these are all just AI characters, all just rendered out of nothing.

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So I think that's gonna be a
huge mind control factor in the next coming

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elections. I don't know if you
heard, but they recently caught a teacher

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who was about to get fired try
to frame the principle for racism by making

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an AI recording of his voice and
then saying this is him saying those racist

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things and before it could take off, they just ran it through a program.

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They're like, no, this is
AI. This guy's trying to frame

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up this principle because he was getting
fired. And now this is our first

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AI false flag. So I think
there's gonna be lots more, you know.

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Well, then that becomes a question
too, is like, well,

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if we're just now getting this type
of technology in the public is able to

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do this, how long have these
other organizations and through letter agencies in the

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military and the government had this technology. Because we know that they don't give

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us anything that they don't already have. There's no possible way that AI was

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just now created in the pas past
couple of years. I mean, AI

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has been running these social media companies
for freaking years. I think that these

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are people that are that are doing
all this stuff. And it's not people.

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It's freaking AI. I mean,
it's it's all and it's been AI

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for a really long time. And
I'm sure that if you talk to somebody

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that works at one of these social
media companies, they don't even know how

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it works. Well, we do
have no idea. We do have your

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work as sort of like a benchmark
when it comes to jfk X and your

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high quality video showing the squibs,
because if they had AI back then,

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they wouldn't have had to do all
that, you know, all the editing

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and all the missing frames and everything
else. That's a pretty good benchmark.

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Maybe at that point they started to
pivot away from thinking about you know,

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physical effects. I mean, look
at the moon landing. You can see

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a lot of physical effects going on
there. And I think having that sort

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of benchmark is important because now we
could sort of see the transition and because

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the governments have always been involved in
hoaxing and faking things, and what we

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see now is sort of like the
next level of that, the next iteration.

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And I think, you know,
even UFOs, if we want to

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talk about mind control UFOs, I
know, uh, you've got the operation

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Bluebeam. I don't know how real
that is. I think that's more of

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like a preparatory thing, sort of
getting people accustomed to the idea of it.

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But at the same time, that
would be a mind control event,

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just a mass level hoax that if
you go against it in the future after

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that point, you're a pariah.
You know. That's That's sort of the

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thing too, is having big events
that are meant to shape your personality and

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shape your mental perception, creates a
rift automatically right off that, Right off

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the bat. People have two solutions
in mind, they're given two solutions,

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and if those two solutions don't accommodate, then they add another one, They

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add another layer, and then they
put that into the mix and see where

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things shake out. But basically,
like you were saying, the reason why

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they want control over these platforms is
because they don't want to let something go

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viral that they don't already have a
narrative for. That's right, That's exactly

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right. And with Project Bluebeam,
I don't think that that's ever going to

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happen because there's been too many people
that's warned against that, and normally things

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that people mourning about and say that
is going to happen never happens. And

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I talked about, actually talked with
a gentleman that's going to be in our

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second documentary which is going to be
about MK Ultra in Hollywood and Stanley Kubrik

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and the moon landings and the shining
and all that. And his dad was

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the right hand man to Sydney Gottlieb, which was ahead of the MK Ultra

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programs I was, and I was
yeah, and I was sitting down and

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I was talking with him, and
you know, he brought up this,

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uh, this idea of you know, Project Blue Beam, and uh he

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was like, oh, yeah,
there's supposed well he brought up that people

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were seeing Mother Mary, remember that
whole big thing back I don't know,

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maybe eight ten years ago, where
people were seeing like visions of like Mother

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Mary and all that. And I
was like and I was like, yeah,

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that that seems like a Project blue
Beam type of thing, Project blue

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Beam event, right, because I
think that that was you know, the

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goal was to you know, make
it seem like these messiahs from these religious

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camps have all come back, you
know. So for the Christians it would

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be Jesus, you know, for
the Muslims would be Mohammed. The Buddhas

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that would be Buddha, and they're
all descending from the clouds and all that.

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And then he was, well,
you know what Project blue Beam originally

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was, right, I said,
oh, no, I don't and he

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said, well, it was an
MK Ultra subproject, but it wasn't called

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a Project Blue Beam. It's called
Project Blue Bolt. And the what they

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were trying to do with Project Blue
Bolt was to put the vision, not

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make it external to people, but
to beam the hallucination directly inside of people's

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heads, so instead of making it
external to them, like something that they

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see in the sky is actually a
hallucination that's being beamed into your head.

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And that made sense to me because
then you can make other people see different

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things than other people, because if
everyone saw the same thing, I mean,

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everyone's got cameras in their pocket.
Now, you know you have a

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very high definition camera on your phone
that you can get video of something.

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So if they did a big event
like that, then they would see that,

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well, this country is seeing Buddha, this other country is seeing Muhammad,

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this other country is seeing Jesus.
So why is all this stuff different?

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It made more sense that, well, if they did it inside of

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your head, if they beam the
signal directly into your head, then it

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could all be happening simultaneously. But
everybody's seeing something different, right, And

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then that correlates to what mk Ultra
Monarch survivor Kathy o Brim I've talked about

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on my show several times before that
that's pretty much what they did with her.

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But they did it with an extraterrestrial. They did it with a reptilian.

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They showed her and holographic portrayal of
a reptilian and tried to make her

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believe that it was these extraterrestrial tillions
that was responsible for all the stuff in

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order to cover up government involvement and
human beings actually being the ones to do

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this. And that's what I think
the agenda is behind the extraterrestrial narrative,

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is to cover up the fact that
it's all humans and it's always been humans.

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But in order to take the blame
away from humans, they've created an

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invisible scapegoat, something that you never
see, something that you can't prove exist,

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something that you don't that no one
can prove exists, there's no evidence

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for. So if you can shift
the blame to something that is questionable,

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if it's even real or not,
then you can continue to get away with

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everything that you've been doing, all
the other crimes, and the real humans

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and the real people that are perpetrating
this upon humanity just gets slid under the

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rug. And I think even the
hardcore UFO people call those like screen visions

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or something where you've got this sort
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going on, and it's funny that
that would be, you know, an

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admission. But at the same time, you have to assume that these programs

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are actually harder to fool people with
up close. You know, you'd have

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to have several trained magicians on staff
basically figuring out the best angles and the

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best ways that you could have these
things work out and not suspect that there

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were humans behind it. But doing
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know, brings a lot of attention, and so you don't necessarily want that.

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You got to kind of make do
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that not enough people are into it. But I think times like now,

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when people are focused on the UFO
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tough questions of their own governments,
is like, how much involvement is this

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Because you guys were involved in MK
ultra and you poison many, many thousands

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of people, you know, and
you had Clyde Lewis talking about how there

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was experiments going on in West Virginia. Yeah, that was a very interesting

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theory which I brought up my theory
of what happened with the Mothman and he

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had a whole new one and how
it was kind of like, holy crap.

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It makes a lot of sense,
and of course we don't know if

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it's true or because there's no evidence
and no proof of it, but it's

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a very interesting theory. But at
least he agreed with me that they,

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you know, purposefully brought down the
silver Bridge and you know, did that

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on purpose to distract away from something
now, regardless if that was the Mothman

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or if it was, you know, to get people off track on really

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what was going on. And it's
just a coincidence that nobody in Point Pleasant

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after the silver Bridge collapsed ever saw
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I don't think that that's a coincidence. And putting two and two together,

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the minut Black showing up to tell
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stop talking about the moth Man.
It kind of correlates when you put two

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and two together. But you know, it's just a theory. But the

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interesting part of screen Memories is that
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in his book, and I believe
in nineteen eighty it was either nineteen eighty

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or nineteen eighty one called missing time, and he created a lot of different

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theories that have been perpetuated with in
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of course, missing time. The
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screen memories and how we got these
ideas and these thoughts were regressing so called

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alien abductees and experiencers. Right,
And this is where the whole thing of

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like regression really like takes on a
life of its own, because you know,

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regression was never meant to, you
know, hypnotic aggression was never meant

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to like find out if you had
been freaking abducted or that if you had

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alien contact or like any of that
stuff. It had everything to do with

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like helping you better your life,
like quit smoking, like you know,

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help people with addictions and stuff like
that. And then it's evolved into like

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a past life thing or an alien
regression thing or an alien abduction thing.

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And yeah, and the problem is
is whenever if you have somebody that already

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thinks that they've been abducted, they
go to a person that is quote unquote

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specialized in alien abduction regression sessions.
Right, what do you think that you're

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going to find alien abduction regressions?
That's right? And then if you go

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to a you know, let's say, it's kind of like the theory that

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I've you know, kind of been
trying to talk to people about. It's

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like, and I spoke about it
with Clyde Lewis yesterday. You know,

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if you take a paranormal investigator,
you take them to a haunted location,

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they're going to find they're gonna come
out of there saying that the house was

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haunted. Right, you take a
Bigfoot investigator into that exact same house,

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they're gonna come out and say,
it's Bigfoot. Bigfoot's definitely here, Bigfoot's

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been here. If you take an
alien and a UFO investigator to the exact

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same house, they're gonna come out
with say, oh, it's it's definitely

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aliens. You know, like we
tend to just stay on our preconceived notions

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of what we already believe, and
when we already believe in something, it's

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easy to see that everywhere. You
know, It's kind of like that old

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expression, if you look into something
long enough, you can create whatever it

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is that fits your agenda. You
know, if you dig hard enough,

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you can find whatever it is to
support your your preconceived beliefs. Thoughts and

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ideas. It's kind of like Bible
right, Like you can the Bible is

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like a catch all for everything,
Like you can pretty much find an example

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of anything in the Bible to justify
your beliefs or your idea or whatever it

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is that's going on in your life
at that time. You can find a

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reference for something that's happening to you
in the Bible, right, And it's

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done that way on it's written that
way on purpose. Right. But at

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the same time, I think people
have done this naturally, like we see

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the examples in polytheism where you'll have
similar gods in different areas, but they

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kind of change from one place to
the next. And I think what it

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really depends on is what the people
are focused on, and I think that

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goes back into what their professions are
in that area and how they make their

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living. So you'll have some Bible
versus in a city that will be focused

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on and then in a rural community, they're obviously going to be much more

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agrarian in the Bible and they're going
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it's almost like the land and how
you work the land is sort of the

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lens and how you view God and
the supernatural and all the rest of these

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things. You know, unfortunately that
doesn't make for very easy communication, but

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at the same time it makes sense
and a lot of contradictions as well,

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you know, like they can just
contradict each other. And that's why there's

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all these different sects of Christianity,
you know, there's why there's all these

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different denominations because they're like, oh, well, I don't believe in that

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section that you're talking about. I'm
going to go create my own church and

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create my own thing where the people
believe what I believe. You know,

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it's the exact same type of rhetoric, and that's been spread across really everything.

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And when you look into the MK
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that the government really was trying to
bring the experiments and the things that they

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were doing on an individual level to
the public, but under the guise of

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something virtuous. And that's something that's
been a thing for a really long time.

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It's always been in the guys of
something virtuous, because the way to

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get people on board with something is
to make them believe that it's their idea

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to do it. That's how everything
works, that's how the whole AI thing

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that we were talking about earlier.
That's how all that works because four or

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five years ago you had, especially
people in this community, they were like,

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oh, oh, I'll never use
AIS the devil, I'll never mess

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with no way, I don't want
to know cyborgs run running my stuff,

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you know. And now all those
people are on board with it. They're

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all using it right right, So
what you do is that you have to

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subvert them in a way that makes
them think that they actually have a benefit,

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that they're going to get something out
of it. And then whenever a

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few pe people hop on board with
it and the others that were against it

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for a long period of time sees
what kind of benefit that it gave the

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people that were into it, then
they jump on board because they're like,

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oh, well, I don't want
to be at a disadvantage. Like these

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people have an upper hand because they're
using AI to create some of their content,

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write their stuff, make AI photos, make AI videos, so I

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might as well jump on the bandwagon
too. And that's how things are really

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gotten away with. But through studying
these mk Ultra programs, you see that

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and this is an important thing because
a lot of people think that mk Ultra

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was just about LSD and that's not
true. That's uh, but that's what

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they try and put it out there
as like a like a wacky thing that

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they don't do anymore. And then
it all just was from this wacky guy,

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Sidney Gottlieb that was into the occult
and all this stuff, and he

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was just trying to dose these people
with LST to try and see if he

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can mind control them and make them
do things that they normally wouldn't do.

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But that's through reading the documentation,
which there's been a lot of them that

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has been destroyed. I believe whenever
the CIA got in trouble for doing the

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mkulture programs, they ended up burning
I think documentation for at least one hundred

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and fifty to two hundred or maybe
even more documents. So you have one

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hundred and thirty nine subprojects of mk
Ultra that are verified, but who knows

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how many more that there were,
and who knows how many more Canada also

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got because whenever mk Ultra, you
know, got in trouble and the CIA

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got in trouble, they just outsourced
all that to Canada and Canada kind of

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took over the program after that.
But when you look into these programs and

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you read the documentation, which a
lot of people don't because they they either

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don't have the time, they don't
want to do it, they think that

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it's boring, But some documentation is
really really important to read. You'll see

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through the mk Ultra subprojects that not
only were they using LSD, they were

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using UH anti psychotics. Antipsychotics were
tested on these mk Ultra victims before that

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they were brought to the public.
Anti depressing phyt huge all pretty much all

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of them, and amphetamines emhetamines were
tested on k Ultra victims before that they

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were brought to the public. Which
amphetamines is like adderall and brittle in which

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adderall and brittlin, you know,
that's given to our children at a really

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young age for ADHD, you know. And all of those types of pharmaceutical

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compounds and pharmaceutical drugs were tested on
the people within the programs before they were

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brought to the public. And it
just brings into the question, well,

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you know what's going on here?
And when you look at the statistics,

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which I looked them up, like
I don't know, like a year ago,

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and the most recent study that I
could find was from twenty to fourteen

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to twenty and sixteen, and that
study said that forty eight percent of the

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United States population was on some form
of pharmaceutical drug. Now, that's an

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alarming amount of people, very alarming, And I'm confident in saying seven to

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eight years later after that study,
it's dramatically gone up. I could confidently

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say, even though there's not you
know, confirmation on online, or there's

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not any study that's been done in
twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,

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I can you could pretty much agree
that you could say that more than half

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of the United States is on some
form of pharmaceutical drug. Now, what

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is that doing to the population?
You know? Is that stunning our spiritual

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growth? Is that cutting off our
connection to the earth? Is that cutting

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off our our spiritual antenna? You
know? Jerry Jerry Marzinsky Watch is a

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psychiatrist and he went to I've had
him on my show three times, I

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believe. And he's a psychiatrist who
read a wrote a book called The Amazing

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Journey into the Psychotic Mind, and
he went around to all of these prisons

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and hospitals and emergency units and emergency
care units, and he worked with schizophrenic

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people, and he discovered that these
drugs really do nothing and they pretty much

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make the symptoms worse. Now that's
not my opinion, that's his opinion.

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He's a psychiatrist. I'm not a
doctor. I'm not a psychiatrist. I

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don't know, uh, you know, I can't comment on the effectiveness or

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the non effectiveness of any of these
drugs. And I've never used any of

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them, so I don't know how
they are. But he says that with

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working with these schizophrenics and these people, which brings in a completely other conversation

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of like these voices that these patients
here, and the where do our thoughts

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come from? You know, our
thoughts, our own thoughts. And he

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equates it to like, you know, our consciousness is like kind of like

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a dial, right, like a
radio frequency, And depending on where you

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turn the dial on the radio band
depends on the type of thoughts that you

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get. So if you're turning it
at high frequency, you're going to get

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more positive thoughts. Of tuning it
to lower frequency, you're going to get

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low, you know, more malicious
and more evil thoughts. And he equates

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these schizophrenic people and these ones that
have, you know, mental health problems.

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As to being demonically possessed, No, I can't confirm or deny that

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either, because I don't really know
what a demon is, Like I don't

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think anyone really knows what actual demon
is. But if it was a demon,

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then it would be in control of
your thoughts. It would be a

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voice. But the way that he
explains it is it's not an external voice,

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right. He says that it's not
a voice that's talking to these people

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that's different than what they are.
You know, it's not like a I

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am the voices, I am demon, beels abub or whatever. He says

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that it's literally the just the voice
in your head is alms like you,

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but it's really destructive and very negative. It tells you all these evil things,

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like to harm yourself, to harm
others. And I think it's a

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possibility that a lot of this has
to do with drugs. Drugs is the

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portal that opens this up. And
I actually had him back on with another

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gentleman. His title is Boston Boston
two percent. That's his tag on a

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social media and on TikTok, and
I had him on and he's talking about

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how methanphetamine just opened his like put
him into like a complete psychosis where he

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thought that he was God and that
he had like all these superpowers and like

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all this stuff that he's talking about. And I'm like, well, yeah,

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I mean that makes sense that,
you know, and ALYSSA drug use

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is a really big factor as well, So you not only have pharmaceutical drugs,

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you also have illiced drugs, like
illegal drugs that you can't get from

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a pharmacy or get with a doctor's
prescription that almost sort of kind of does

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the exact same thing. I mean, you can go into a psychosis with

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cocaine, you can go into a
psychosis with you know, crack, you

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can go into psychosis with myths.
Some people can go into a psychosis with

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freaking downers, you know. So
we're being hit from many different angles.

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actual study of how many people in the

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United States are on illicit drugs.
There may be, I might be able

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00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.839
to google it, but if you
combine illicit drugs with pharmaceutical drugs, then

407
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.480
the numbers just go up, right, and they continue to go up.

408
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.400
So it's like, what is happening
you're in. Of course, I want

409
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.400
to let you talk because I've been
rambling for a second. No, I

410
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.160
think you're bringing up a really good
topic there, which is the intersection between

411
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:07.440
drugs and spirituality. I think that's
been you know, so played out when

412
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:14.159
it comes to hallucinogens and all the
rest of these different mind expanding experiences,

413
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:19.840
that there's some sort of connection between
how we perceive the world and how you

414
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.679
know, we interact with it.
And I think, you know, for

415
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:28.400
a long time, you can find
even references in the Bible, the marijuana

416
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.639
references, like cana in the Bible
is actually marijuana. It comes from the

417
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:37.000
Proto Indo European word cana, which
means cannabis, canna bossam, and so

418
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:45.280
they're referencing that as a sacrifice or
a burnt offering. And so what you

419
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.960
can assume is that that's what was
going on inside the temples all across the

420
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.719
Mediterranean, is they had these massive
braziers full of cana that they would burn,

421
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.280
and you know, people would come
to the temple and get really super

422
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.840
high as these offerings were going on. And so you know, that should

423
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:08.159
put some of the ancient religions into
perspective is you know, if it doesn't

424
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:13.440
make sense, it's probably because the
people who are experiencing these things were really

425
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:22.159
super high. You know, I
agree. You know, having that perspective,

426
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.000
it brings us up to the CIA
and what they've been doing using because

427
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.639
again what you keep talking about is
that it's all sort of connected to prophecy.

428
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.360
They want to be able to say
this is going to happen, and

429
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.880
then having the people experience that so
that they can all be on the same

430
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.639
page, all beyond the same narrative. And that's the essence of what I

431
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:47.320
think mind control is is giving people
a prompt having something happen, and then

432
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:54.320
shoveling them all into that narrative sort
of portal or dichotomy so that you know,

433
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.400
they can destroy the evil doers and
you don't have to spend as much

434
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.880
on military, right, so you
can get everybody on the same page,

435
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.239
all of society, and then they
go after the outsiders and increase your powers,

436
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.840
the one behind the whole process.
And I think, you know,

437
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.800
if you look at what they were
doing as a massive drug trial, when

438
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:22.119
it comes to you know, MK
ultra, you start to see maybe the

439
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.000
reason why everybody's on these drugs today
is because they know what it does to

440
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:29.800
people, and they know what it
does long term, and the best pharmaceutical

441
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:35.679
results they could get were these you
know, unscrupulous doctors like Jolly and West

442
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:40.400
who just basically went around dosing people
whoever the government told them to. And

443
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:46.360
you see him right next to us
that what's that hippies name? He died

444
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:52.480
recently, Charles Manson, right,
And he's also close to the guy who

445
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:59.639
shot what's his name? The guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah RFK and

446
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:06.400
Jack Ruby too, yeah yeah,
it's uh. Well. Then you also

447
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:15.480
have like Operation Midnight Climax. You
have one of the operations that was destroyed

448
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:21.559
with the files that I was talking
about earlier, was a was a speculatory

449
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.840
and the theory at this point because
there's not any proof or evidence of it

450
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:30.599
because it was destroyed, which was
called Project Spellbinder, which was a project

451
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:40.760
in order to mind control someone like
mk ultrim a, someone to assassinate people.

452
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:50.599
And what the whole idea and the
theory behind Project Spellbinder was to brainwash

453
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:57.199
someone to assassinate Fidel Castro. That's
what it was. It was not out

454
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.800
of the realm of possibility that you
know, violence is also a part of

455
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:08.920
this, not only subservience and you
know the agenda, but also violence and

456
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:19.440
in some cases, like the theoretical
projects spellbinder assassination as well. And that's

457
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:25.840
sort of what our next documentary is
going to involve as well. So I

458
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:32.079
think one of the main goals of
a good mind controled drug is to induce

459
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:38.079
apathy, because with apathy you could
start to reprogram the individual, right,

460
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:44.960
so once you don't care so much
about what it is you're doing, then

461
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.480
it can be really easy to get
you into that next phase of well,

462
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.199
this is what you're doing. We're
giving you this option. And one of

463
00:38:52.280 --> 00:39:00.159
the most prominent and recorded drugs in
that regard is one called scopolamine, and

464
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:06.800
that comes from this bort ahadow tree
down in Colombia and South America, and

465
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:15.039
it's used down there by drug gangs
and prostitutes as a method of doping someone

466
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.360
and then having them give over all
of the information that they may need,

467
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:25.519
all of the money. They've even
had people empty out their entire apartments of

468
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:30.159
all of their furniture so that this
pimp in the prostitute can steal it.

469
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:36.559
It's called devil's breath, and this
devil's breath. Scapolamine is a common mind

470
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:40.599
controlled drug down in South America.
And it's really interesting because you know that

471
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.840
that was part of the mk Ultra
program, but they only talk about LSD

472
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.960
because talking about scipolamine in some of
these other quote unquote truth serums, because

473
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:58.719
scipolamine is also used in truth serum
to get the person to be more relaxed

474
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:05.599
and able to be suggestible. Right. And so you've also got another truth

475
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:10.960
serum that's called sodium pentathol, and
that's commonly portrayed on you know, lots

476
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.519
of different TV shows. They give
somebody an injection, they put them into

477
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:20.320
the polygraph test and then they start
to get loopy and dopey and start to

478
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:24.440
answer the questions a little bit more
freely. But all of those were definitely

479
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:30.679
tested in mk Ultra, and it's
not just limited to LSD, which didn't

480
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:36.599
have a high mind control quotient,
but it did produce the type of hysteria

481
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:43.400
that they would want to have a
mass population sort of induced into so that

482
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.960
they could, you know, come
forward with the solutions. That's right,

483
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:54.039
problem problem action, problem reaction solution, right, that's the thing that they

484
00:40:54.199 --> 00:41:00.519
always follow. So if you if
you create the problem, you already know

485
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.320
what the reaction is going to be
because it can only be a handful of

486
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:08.599
different things. So then you plan
for all the different reactions and then based

487
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:14.599
off of those reactions, you already
have the solution, all right. So

488
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.239
it's a plan on top of a
plan on top of a plan, And

489
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:28.119
there's a detailed way within the mk
Ultra documents on how they break down the

490
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.079
mind in order to insert the odds
ideas and beliefs into people's eyes. Because

491
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:37.199
it was originally done with a drug
that was called BEZ. Now I can't

492
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:45.000
pronounce the real title of what bez
is because it's a really weird like quinsol

493
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:52.360
diosa binzel late or something like that, really weird name the actual pharmaceutical name.

494
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:59.360
But this substance was one hundred times
more powerful than LSD and it was

495
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:05.280
like in like a powdered like a
white powdered form. It would essentially make

496
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:10.360
people go out of their minds for
long periods of time, like weeks and

497
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:17.320
weeks and weeks at a time.
And this was originally tested on military personnel

498
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:23.880
to see if they could get these
people then had top secret information or classified

499
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:32.639
information, if they could remove the
top secret classified information from the military personnel's

500
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:38.519
had, so they wouldn't be able
to reveal any of the military secrets,

501
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:44.760
so they can go out and live
a normal life after their military service was

502
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:49.079
over. And once they figured that
out, then they were like, okay,

503
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:54.239
well, if we can remove memories
and thoughts and ideas and top secret

504
00:42:54.480 --> 00:43:06.119
classified information from these military people's heads
military personnel, can we insert ideas,

505
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:10.360
thoughts, and beliefs into their head? Right, So pretty much what they

506
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:17.239
would do is they would torture these
subjects to a point to where they lose

507
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:24.239
their They lose common sense and like
critical thinking, so it kind of wipes

508
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:32.199
their brain of like normal rational thoughts. And this torture doesn't have to be

509
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:45.280
like horrendously torture. Is I think
that people have a wrong idea of of

510
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:52.360
like what torture can be. It
doesn't have to be like physically brutal.

511
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.239
It can be psychologically brutal, right, right. It can be to the

512
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.679
point where, which is just an
example, like you could be in a

513
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:06.320
small encased room. They could come
in and tell you you have to put

514
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.960
your hands up on the wall and
keep your hands on the wall with your

515
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:19.679
feet spread apart for twenty four hours. You know what that's psychologically going to

516
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.119
do to you. And if you
fall, then they'll come in and taze

517
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.079
you or whatever. Which is just
an example, not seeing that that really

518
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:29.199
happened, but it can be as
something as simple as that, And the

519
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:36.800
psychological torture of just having your hands
constantly on the wall not being able to

520
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:42.360
move or take your hands off the
wall or move around is going to eventually

521
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:47.199
break you down. And I think
that people think that it's like a like

522
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.800
a hardcore physical thing that they're going
in and they're beating them and they're doing

523
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:57.320
that creates too much resistance. See
that they want to break down people psychologically

524
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:01.320
because when you break them down their
mental state down psychologically, that pretty much

525
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:06.280
clears out the common sense, critical
thinking, and rational thoughts. So then

526
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:13.360
they can come in and reprogram your
mind with something that may possibly be real,

527
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.519
might not be real, in order
to implant thoughts and ideas into your

528
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:21.280
head according to the agenda that they
want you to do. So then they

529
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:25.159
would come in and after this,
after they felt that they had been broken

530
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.239
down enough psychologically they would come in. And this is the official version.

531
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.159
They could have been doing this many
different ways, but the official version of

532
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:43.119
what psychic driving is as they would
take any looped repeated audio message, something

533
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.800
that's just on a recorder that would
play twenty four to seven for weeks and

534
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:54.039
days, and it could have had
whatever on it. It could have been

535
00:45:54.400 --> 00:46:00.920
as simple as you're nothing, your
garbage, you know, everyone hates you,

536
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:06.559
or it could have been something way
more nefarious, right, and nobody

537
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:12.760
really knows what was on those looped
audio messages, and that kind of gets

538
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:17.960
tucked away in the subject's mind,
like and then I'm thinking, well,

539
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:23.039
if they could do that with like
a recorder and like a just an audio

540
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:30.960
message, could they have not a
wheeled a freaking TV into the room and

541
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:37.159
played the same thing and also gave
them a visual and an audio psychic driving

542
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.760
message. And then you can take
that one step further. Could they have

543
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.079
not have put something on the subject's
head? Could they have not put some

544
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:52.360
kind of goggles, some sort of
VR technology on their head? And then

545
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:59.360
after they've been tortured and drugged and
then they dozed them with some sort of

546
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:06.519
drug, put the VR simulation on
their head. They're gonna believe it.

547
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:13.199
They're gonna believe whatever was on whatever
was on that looped audio message, whatever

548
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:20.960
was on that TV screen, whatever
was in those VR goggles. Well,

549
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.960
what's to what they refer to over
and over again in the MK Ultra documents

550
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:30.679
is de patterning. So the D
pattern that's the right. I was trying

551
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.159
to think of what that was called, and then you're correct, that is

552
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.000
what it's called, is de patterning. That's where they remove the common sense

553
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.920
and credit. Thank you, I
appreciate that, right, But that's sort

554
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:44.159
of like the three step process.
So this is why LSD was important is

555
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:49.719
because it aided in the de patterning. So it sort of takes you outside

556
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:53.960
of that normal sphere that you're comfortable
thinking in. And then once you've got

557
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:58.920
that that place outside of it,
then you can start to input those new

558
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:04.119
patterns that you want to see come
about. And you know, it's funny,

559
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:08.480
for so many years the government said
the mk Ultra projects were a failure,

560
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:13.079
and it's like, by what degree, by what metric are you calling

561
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.519
them a failure? And that was
never explained. You know, it was

562
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.519
a success in showing that this is
the way you do it. But maybe

563
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:25.119
LSD wasn't the drug that they were
using, because again scopolamine or devil's breath

564
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.599
is right there, and they never
talk about that in any mainstream sort of

565
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.880
examination of the mk Ultra program or
what could have come out of it.

566
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:40.639
You know, yes, depatterning,
drugging and then psyche driving. That's the

567
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.159
way that that it was done,
and it's all over the documents, just

568
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:52.920
like you know what you said.
And I think the the way to throw

569
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:58.480
the public off is to say that
there wasn't any results for it and that

570
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:05.639
it didn't work because maybe it didn't
work in the way that they wanted it

571
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.800
to work. But then they just
tweak it and turn it into it because

572
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:15.599
normally whenever there's like an operation and
the operation doesn't work out the way that

573
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.679
they wanted it to work out,
they have figured out the way not to

574
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:25.840
do it right, so they can
tweak it and adjust it, change the

575
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.440
name of it, make it a
different program, run it under a different

576
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:37.559
name. But the testing phase of
it was mk Ultra. The official mk

577
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:45.519
Ultra program was the testing phase was
then trying to figure out how it works,

578
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.400
what they need to do, how
they need to do it, and

579
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.920
then it got disclosed in order for
everyone to be like, oh, well,

580
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.559
this was something that we did years
and years and years ago, and

581
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.800
we're no longer doing it anymore.
Bullshit, bullshit, you're not doing anymore.

582
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.400
I mean you can just look around
you in the world and see that

583
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:13.519
it's a what's going on, you
know, And it's the exact same thing

584
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:21.360
that happened with the Stargate project.
They're removing Stargate projects that happened in nineteen

585
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:28.079
seventy eight and ran until ninety five. They did the exact same thing.

586
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.840
The CIA was supposed to take over
the remote viewing program in ninety five.

587
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:38.320
Then the CIA came out and canceled
the program and said that no intelligence data

588
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:42.840
had ever been collected from the program. Well that's bullshit too. Why would

589
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:47.320
you keep a program operating for fifteen
to eighteen years if you didn't yield any

590
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:52.960
results. It's nonsense. You're not
going to keep something running for that amount

591
00:50:52.960 --> 00:51:00.719
of time and be useless. I
think it's important for people to know that

592
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.760
the government has a different form of
reproduction than human beings. They reproduce when

593
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.760
it comes to policy. So as
those policies start to come into effect,

594
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.840
you get what's called fail forward.
So what they'll do is they'll say publicly

595
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.599
we failed, and then privately they'll
throw all of their stuff over to a

596
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.440
corporation that they've outsourced all of those
duties to, and then they'll pick up

597
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:29.039
there and then anything that that corporation
of that government contractor is doing is now

598
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:34.880
part of their corporate secrets, so
they can keep that without any disclosure to

599
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.159
the rest of the public. So
it's this constant process of starting with something

600
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:45.599
unethical, throwing it over to your
business associates, letting those business associates take

601
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:51.360
it from there and use the same
protocols and policies to advance the agenda that

602
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:58.320
was behind the whole project to begin
with. That is a perfect example of

603
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.079
what's going on and what continue to
go on. I mean, that's the

604
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:06.679
that's the way to do it.
Because no private organization or government contractor is

605
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.880
required to disclose any information about any
testing, any program, anything that they

606
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.119
that they've been doing. They're not
because it's not a government it's not an

607
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.760
official government program. It's being as
an outsourced government program to private companies.

608
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.599
So you got like s RI with
the s R International with the remote viewing.

609
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:29.840
A lot of those stuff was funded
by the c i A, funded

610
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.519
by the d i A, funded
by the d O D and the Air

611
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:37.920
Force at one point, you know, and you have like you know,

612
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:45.320
raytheon, you got, you got
what's the other one? Uh north of

613
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:53.000
you got big a low aerospace.
You have all these different uh private government

614
00:52:53.119 --> 00:53:01.920
contracting groups that are pretty much can
considered the government at this point by how

615
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.159
many programs and operations that has been
outsourced to them. But again they're private

616
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:13.880
companies, they're private organizations and nothing
can Ever, they don't have to disclose

617
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.519
any information. And that's the way
that a lot of this stuff has been

618
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:22.360
gotten away with is because the government
starts at government discloses it says that there's

619
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.119
nothing to it, nothing happened,
that wasn't successful. Then it's exactly what

620
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.239
you said. Then they just outsource
it to these or they can do it

621
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:34.199
to a different country, like in
the case of mk Ultra, they outsourced

622
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:38.840
all of the most of the mk
ultra stuff to Canada, right which is

623
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:46.079
outside the government's The United States governments
grasp and very little from those mk Ultra

624
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:53.159
programs from Canada has been disclosed,
but most of them happened in like psychiatric

625
00:53:54.199 --> 00:54:05.159
facilities like state hospitals and prisons and
stuff like that, where like electroshock therapy

626
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:13.000
and like really torturous things were happening
at mental hospitals, which then brings into

627
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:16.320
a whole other topic and a whole
other thing too, because you know,

628
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:21.559
a lot of this stuff is being
done on children as well, and that's

629
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:28.239
a really important topic to get into. And there is a Netflix documentary I

630
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.039
don't know if you've watched it,
yeah, but it's called The Programs,

631
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:37.159
cons Cults and Kidnapping. And this
documentary is unbelievable. I had no idea

632
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.760
that this was an actual thing,
and I couldn't believe that it was actually

633
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:45.159
on Netflix. It was like,
holy crap. I was shocked, right

634
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:52.519
well, behavioral modification schools, behavioral
modification camps. There's actually another documentary that

635
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.519
came out, I believe in twenty
twenty that was called Hell Camp or maybe

636
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:00.960
it's Camp Hell or something. And
this whole thing started in this seventies in

637
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:07.280
Utah where they would take these kids. They would abduct these kids in the

638
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:12.760
middle of the night from their home. Their parents would pay this company in

639
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:19.679
this organization to have these men show
up in a blacked out suv come to

640
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:25.199
these kids homes in the middle of
the night, handcuffed, blindfold their kid,

641
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.199
throw them in the back of an
suv, either throw them on the

642
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:36.320
plane or drive them if it's close
enough to one of these behavioral modification schools

643
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:40.119
to a behavioral modification camp, or
like I was mentioning, the first one

644
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:45.719
was in Utah and it was like
a sixty day journey through the freaking wilderness

645
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:53.199
where these kids would just be out
hiking for sixty days. But the really

646
00:55:53.239 --> 00:56:05.880
nefarious ones are these behavioral modification schools
where they're actually like they're not in the

647
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:10.280
wilderness, they're not outside, They're
in like a building. They're not allowed

648
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:16.639
to leave the building. It's like
a psychiatric facility for children for kids,

649
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:22.519
and they would be beaten, they
would be torture, they would be psychically

650
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.519
driven. If people really need to
watch this documentary, I did a show

651
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:32.800
about this with Shane the Ruin or
called the Academy programs. But that is

652
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.599
going on, and it is still
going on to this very day, still

653
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.960
a thing that still happens. Paris
Hilton was also involved in this. She

654
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:45.719
was taken to a facility called Provo
Canyon where she was tortured. You know,

655
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:52.679
these are like these are mini mind
control freaking facilities, that's what they

656
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:57.280
are. And they have them repeating
these phrases over and over again. Like

657
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:01.079
it's unbelievable the footage that is in
this documentary of abuse and torture that these

658
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:07.519
children were going through. And they
also had the parents brainwashed. They would

659
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.760
they would do these meetings, like
these monthly meetings. Dude, this is

660
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:16.440
wild shit. They would do these
monthly meetings with these parents that put their

661
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:21.519
kids inside of these schools, and
a lot of them were really expensive,

662
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:25.880
like upwards of like thirty to forty
thousand dollars a year to some of these

663
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:32.920
behavioral modification schools. And they would
have these meetings monthly where they would have

664
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:37.800
these all these parents come and they
would have them like dress up, like

665
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:42.960
they would have men like dressed up
in women's clothing and like all the dresses

666
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.000
and like all this weird shit,
and they were like doing like meditations and

667
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:51.119
they were like all holding hands,
like running around in a circle and shit,

668
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.800
it's like a ritual, dude.
It was the weirdest freaking thing that

669
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:58.960
I've ever seen. So not only
did they have the kids, the kids

670
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:04.920
weren't able to tell their parents what
they were going through in the tortuous conditions

671
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:09.159
and like not being fed, being
beaten, being you know, tortured,

672
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:15.840
pretty much being mind controlled, being
told to psychically driven by repeating phrases like

673
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:17.800
hands up, hands down, hands
the side, hands together, like over

674
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:22.280
and over and over again for like
hours. One lady on the documentary said

675
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:27.360
that they would use the opening to
A two thousand and one A Space Odyssey

676
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:31.159
on repeat over and over and over
again, which sound which is exactly what

677
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:36.000
I just explained. Is what psychic
driving was, is it looped the audio

678
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:43.880
repeated message over and over again.
And it's just unbelievable that this is even

679
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.719
legal, that it's even legal to
do. How can you do that?

680
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.199
And the thing about these programs is
a lot of them were completely unlegitimate because

681
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:57.239
they they basically say that, and
a lot of the kids weren't even that

682
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:02.800
bad of children. They weren't.
That's the whole The problem with these programs

683
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:10.199
is that it's the parents thinking that
their children are unruly and unbehave children when

684
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.880
they're really not. The parents just
don't want to deal with them, so

685
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:21.519
they It's almost it's literally like a
psychiatric facility, some of the insane asylums

686
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.920
that were in the United States and
the very beginning, because whenever those first

687
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:29.960
opened up, you could take a
family member, you could take your wife,

688
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:32.119
you could take your child. You
could just drop them off at this

689
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:37.320
psychiatric insane asylum and they would admit
them for nothing. You could just say,

690
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:43.519
oh, my my wife isn't abaying
my uh, she's not doing exactly

691
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.360
what I want her to do,
and they would take her and torture her,

692
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.840
electric shocker, hydrotherapy her, do
all this torturous stuff, maybe even

693
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:58.280
lobotomizer to perform surgeries on her.
For all her all the husband said is

694
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:04.079
that she wouldn't take out the trash
a couple of times. It's ridiculous stuff

695
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:08.199
like that, right, And these
kids are not bad kids, they're not

696
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:14.760
that unruly, but they're put in
this situation. Their kids pay this company

697
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:16.320
to come and abduct them. They
take them to this facility. They're not

698
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:22.599
able to leave. They're being beaten, they're being mind controlled, and they

699
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.119
say that they have to obey the
program in order to graduate. So whenever

700
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.079
you graduate the program, you get
a diploma, high school diploma. But

701
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:35.679
it turns out that the high school
diplomas weren't even real r they weren't even

702
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.039
real high school diplomas. They were
fake high school diplomas. So everyone that

703
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:43.599
went through this facility, that graduated
at the age of seventeen or eighteen doesn't

704
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:45.840
even have a freaking high school diploma. So they basically went through all that

705
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:51.199
for nothing. They have to go
and get their their ged. Well.

706
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:53.760
I think it's important that it took
part. It took place in Utah because

707
01:00:53.920 --> 01:01:01.079
Utah is the you know, alphabet
agency playground. They love recruiting from Utah.

708
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:05.800
They love having Mormons join up.
I think most of the FBI are

709
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:10.280
Mormons. A lot of the CIA
are Mormons because a lot of what Mormonism

710
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:16.440
is is keeping secrets and being able
to keep secrets, and even the you

711
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:22.159
hear a lot of Mormons on podcasts
talking about how they would never reveal what

712
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.400
they've actually done in these confessional sessions
because then they get in trouble, right,

713
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.519
But that teaches the children how to
lie, and it teaches them how

714
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.400
to cheat, and it teaches them
how to get away with stuff in front

715
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.559
of authorities when really you want to
have an open dialogue and an open communication

716
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.159
with your kids. But at that
point there is no more open communication.

717
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.599
It's only lies. And so you
know, having that take place in Utah

718
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.440
is a big giveaway. Who is
behind it. Well, that's where the

719
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:58.320
original process and the original foundation for
what would later become behavioral modification schools,

720
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:07.039
starting with the wilderness retreats, but
it branched out into schools and they're located

721
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.400
all over the United States, And
in the early two thousands, is not

722
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:15.480
just Utah. The one that the
Netflix documentary that I'm talking about, the

723
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:21.239
program cons cults and kidnapping, happened
in upstate New York in a place called

724
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:25.639
Ivy Ridge. So it's not just
it's not just Utah. It's kind of

725
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.159
like everywhere. But Utah is a
big hub for it. Arizona is another

726
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:35.440
big hub for it in New Mexico, so like that part of the sort

727
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:40.440
of Midwest area. Yeah, four
Corners is the is really the hub for

728
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.760
a lot of these behavioral modification schools. And I mean Paris Holton I think

729
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:51.400
went to the one in Utah.
It became a school after it had become

730
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:58.639
a wilderness retreat. So I mean, it's just wild, dude, it's

731
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:05.320
wild what they're what. I mean, it's basically a human trafficking, That's

732
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:09.559
what it is, right, And
in some form or another, we've had

733
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:15.159
institutionalized human trafficking in America since the
very beginning. And you know, you

734
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:19.079
don't really think about it like that, but that's really the case. You've

735
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:23.400
got slavery going on. Then you've
got which is interesting too, because the

736
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:30.559
underground Railroad was a project by Northern
troops. You know, it was a

737
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:32.599
project by the government, and it
was funded by the government, and that,

738
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:37.360
you know, was also a human
trafficking ring. And then you keep

739
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.599
on going through the years and you
find it over and over again. You've

740
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:45.440
got these orphan trains going around at
the turn of the century, a huge

741
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:51.320
human trafficking coming directly over from Europe
and then just taking these kids and plucking

742
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.679
them out, you know, wherever
people wanted to bid on them and buy

743
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.159
these orphans quote unquote orphans. They
weren't actually orphans, they had parents.

744
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:02.360
They just bought the kids and shuttle
them out to the American West, you

745
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.639
know, and a lot of those
kids, we never know what happened to

746
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:10.840
them, and so this is just
really an extension of that whole project.

747
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:15.400
And what I think Jerry Marzinski was
really important about his work is is there's

748
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:18.360
no time limit on anything he's talking
about. It's always been this way,

749
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:24.760
you know, and having that as
a clue and knowing other observant people,

750
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:29.719
maybe psychopaths have been watching this for
centuries. They kind of figure it out

751
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.559
after a while, and they sort
of keep those secrets to themselves and spread

752
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:38.599
them amongst themselves, and then we
get massive states, you know, working

753
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:45.920
on the same principles. Yep,
sorry, coffee and try to eat over

754
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:51.920
sickness here the yeah, And Jerry
Marzinski's work is really incredible. I mean,

755
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.320
he's got them, he's got the
data. He's talked to a lot

756
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:02.519
of these schizophrenaly schizophrenic mentally ill patient
as he sees these voices and that there's

757
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:08.920
patterns to these schizophrenic people they talk
about the same thing. The dialogue between

758
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.880
the voices that they're hearing and their
own voice is like almost identical. It's

759
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.119
almost the same thing. So there's
only there's only a few conclusions that you

760
01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:21.039
can really come to if you're seeing
all these weird and strange patterns within each

761
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:27.840
and every single person. They're different, different people, but all their experiences

762
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:33.559
are typically the same. You know, it's always a negative voice. It's

763
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:41.239
never positive. It's always telling them
the harm themselves if they well, I

764
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:44.000
think first it's, you know,
harm someone else, and then if they

765
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:47.280
can't harm somebody else, it's harm
yourself. You know, Pluck your eye

766
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:50.679
out of your head and we'll leave
you alone. You know, cut your

767
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:54.199
tongue out and we'll leave you.
Those are just examples, not saying that

768
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:59.960
those actually happen, but or cut
yourself and we'll we'll stop, we'll stop

769
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:01.840
messing with you. And then they
just never do, you know, they

770
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:09.239
just keep at you. And there's
a lot of instances where the voices will

771
01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:15.639
be correct. It's really weird.
It's really strange. Like there's instances where

772
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:23.199
there were people that were told to
run out into traffic and that they would

773
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:27.360
be safe and that they would be
protected, and then when I ran into

774
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:31.440
traffic, got hit by a car, got up and just walked away unscathed.

775
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:38.440
Right, weird, weird and crazy
stuff, especially when it comes to

776
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:42.639
meth because what you find is that
a lot of meth heads have similar instances,

777
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:48.320
similar experiences with shadow people. And
you know, meth is normally considered

778
01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:53.039
a mind controlled drug, but any
mind altering drug can be a mind control

779
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.840
drug it's done in the right way. And so these shadow people, you

780
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.840
know, I think it's related to
the extreme sleep deprivation that goes on when

781
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:05.039
it comes to meth. So you
end up seeing these things that normally your

782
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:11.280
mind filters out, and they all
have similar experiences with them, Like these

783
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:15.679
shadow people are just watching them and
they can't figure out why, you know,

784
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:17.559
they're having these experiences. They talk
it over with other people who have

785
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:20.400
done meth and they're like, yeah, I had those shadow people too.

786
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:27.920
So it's really interesting how there is
that crossover and something that seemingly metaphysical can

787
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:32.800
manifest for multiple different people. Yeah. And then I mean there's been people

788
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.360
with the like the gentleman that I
was talking about that did the show with

789
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:43.440
Jerry Margizen scheme. His name is
Michael Dirk and which is on my show,

790
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:45.519
and you want to check it out, it's on Reason by Jerons on

791
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:50.559
YouTube. But he basically, you
know, talks about how he would see

792
01:07:50.760 --> 01:08:04.199
full on people that weren't there,
like full on human beings that nobody else

793
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:08.840
can see, that we're interacting with
him, that he was speaking with,

794
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:13.960
that he thought was there, but
wasn't there. It's wild And I think

795
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.359
a lot of it does have to
do with, uh, sleep deprivation,

796
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:26.159
because methamphetamine is a common thing to
the people do not sleep on because and

797
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:32.079
the more that you don't sleep,
the more your your body's your mind starts

798
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:39.039
to go and you start to hallucinate
things. Yeah, I think that that

799
01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:48.000
should be a common like a study
and not not to like usemphetamine or methamphetamine

800
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:54.159
for the study, but just to
see how long someone can stay awake and

801
01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:58.600
what the effects are of that when
when at what point do they start to

802
01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:02.319
loosen? At what point do they
start to see things that aren't really there?

803
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:09.600
And can they get back to normal
when their their mind has been that

804
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:14.039
far gone Because some people they that
are on these types of drugs, they

805
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:18.560
just don't come back like they're they're
like perma burnt, perma burnt right,

806
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:25.359
you know, permafried right. It
really doesn't take too much too A lot

807
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:29.239
of people think that, you know, these things can be something that you

808
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:34.239
come back from, but if you
look at the chemical potency of a lot

809
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:39.640
of these mind control drugs, they
do permanent harm to the brain. So

810
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:45.000
and in the doses that the CIA
used in the nk Ultra experiments had a

811
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.960
lot of permanent effects on the people
that they tested on, especially some of

812
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:54.640
the people who you know, killed
themselves because of it. But I think

813
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:58.600
that was more of like a cover
up operation. They knew that giving a

814
01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:03.520
certain amount to one of the members
who might be going public would result in

815
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:12.760
a plausible, plausibly deniable death.
Yeah, you have those types of strange

816
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:16.560
things all over the place. You
have Sidney Gottlieb dosing some of the CIA

817
01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:24.439
personnel with unknowingly with LSD, one
of them committed suicide. You also have

818
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:31.479
the instance of James Forrest All,
which was the Secretary of Defense. There's

819
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:39.640
speculation and theory that maybe he was
dosed with some sort of hallucinogenic as well,

820
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:45.479
and then or he was murdered.
And then there's also theories and thoughts

821
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:51.800
of like an LSD aerosol, it
can also be used in the same type

822
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:57.159
of way, kind of like the
Devil's breath thing that you're speaking about,

823
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:06.319
that it could be done in a
way that can be put through the ventilation

824
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:14.119
system of a building or your house
or or something like that to you know.

825
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:18.479
And that's a big theory that I
got with our our next film.

826
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:24.119
So I don't want to give too
much away on the aerosol aspect of this.

827
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:29.239
But there has been a history,
a really big history of people being

828
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:34.199
dosed with these hallucinogenic drugs unknowingly,
and that's a very scary thing. I

829
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:38.760
mean, we have reports of all
the time of like women going to bars

830
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:43.880
and being dosed with weird freaking drugs
and like you know, date rape drugs

831
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:48.000
and all that and stuff like nowadays, you know, so and there's a

832
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:54.840
long history of using these this and
that would have to be the scariest thing

833
01:11:55.079 --> 01:12:00.760
that you could possibly go through.
It. Like taking some hallucin genic drug

834
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:06.000
recreationally and knowing that you take it
is one thing, But unknowingly taking it

835
01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:12.039
right, that's gonna bug you out, dude, Like that's gonna, you

836
01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:15.079
know, get your brain pretty much
a deep pattern right there, because you're

837
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.239
not going to know what's going on. Like why am I experiencing this?

838
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:24.600
I didn't knowingly take anything right.
I've known a few people that's been dosed

839
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:30.840
with lst unknowingly and it's been a
really terrifying experience for them. Do they

840
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:36.199
think that they're losing their mind right
now? I'm not sure if inducing vomiting

841
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:40.600
would be the thing to do,
but I know that in a lot of

842
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:45.880
cases they talk about activated charcoal as
being a mitigation tool for when it comes

843
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:50.279
to if you feel like something is
changing, and it's very harmless. So

844
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:56.520
if you carry around activated charcoal,
if you've got, you know, a

845
01:12:56.640 --> 01:13:00.640
night out on the town, having
some activated charcoal that you could take as

846
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:03.960
soon as you're starting to feel weird, right, take two, you know,

847
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:09.479
little pills, and then you're starting
to mitigate some of that poison that's

848
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:15.199
affecting your body. Activated charcoal is
something to carry around without too much trouble.

849
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:21.600
You know, they're like, why
why would I need to carry around?

850
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:29.520
Just the thought in the theory that
someone would need to carry around activated

851
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:40.920
charcoal dispersed being unknowingly drugged is alarming, right, Why would we Why would

852
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.800
that ever be a thought? But
that's the type of world that we live

853
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.760
in. You know, it's strange
terms, especially if you're in Columbia and

854
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:50.079
a lot of people are running around
with Devil's breath. You've got about twenty

855
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:55.199
minutes to get out of there,
or you are going to basically be a

856
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:58.520
zombie, and you're going to be
a zombie for about eight hours. If

857
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.560
they get the dosage right, they
get the dose that's wrong, you could

858
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:08.439
die. So having that activated charcoal
and having the ability to escape those precious

859
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:13.119
moments after you start to feel weird
before you start to go into a completely

860
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:17.319
deep patterned state are the most critical. So you've got a very short time

861
01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:20.359
window, and if you're going to
start mitigating that, I think have an

862
01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:26.000
activated charcoal. Even if somebody else
is having an experience, having your own

863
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:30.479
activated charcole would be preferable. I'm
not sure about what other chemicals there are,

864
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.000
but this is sort of like the
catch all. If you want a

865
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:36.159
good catch all, that's one way
to go. And once you can start

866
01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:41.960
to you know, stay loocid.
That's the key is to stay lucid in

867
01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.760
these situations because if you can't stay
loocid, you're going to find out it's

868
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:49.000
not going to go well for you. Noah, and some people can have

869
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:55.960
a really that they're mentally strong and
they're like psychically strong and they have a

870
01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.520
really good mental capacity. But just
wrapping your brain around what's happening to you

871
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:08.199
is probably the hardest thing, you
know, because it's a scary process of

872
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:13.600
not knowing exactly what's going on because
you didn't knowingly take some kind of drug.

873
01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:16.560
Like, if you knowingly take a
drug, you're expecting to feel some

874
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:21.760
sort of way different than the way
that you were previously feeling, so you

875
01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:27.600
know what's going to happen. But
unknowingly getting dosed with a drug is a

876
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:31.199
completely different story because in your mind
saying well, where did this come from?

877
01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:38.560
Who did this? What is this? And it becomes a the patterning

878
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:45.399
tactic to me because you know,
you can't wrap your head around why and

879
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:51.000
who did this? You know?
Right? And not every drug affects people

880
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:57.880
the same way, So having these
different chemicals come into your body is not

881
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.159
a given that you're going to have
the same output. So a lot of

882
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.880
these things can affect people in completely
different ways and that they don't see coming,

883
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:08.439
especially when it comes to allergies and
things like that, which brings up

884
01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:11.880
what I think is the number one
mind control drug, which is wheat.

885
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.479
Right, we've got bread, which
creates. You know, these gluten allergies,

886
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:23.760
right, these gluten allergies are the
result of massive swelling and inflammation and

887
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:28.039
having an inflamed brain, you're not
able to make decisions as well as you

888
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:31.560
were before. And if you think
about the history of humankind and the making

889
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:35.680
of cities and clustering all these people
together, that came about because of these

890
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:43.319
grains that create a foggy perception of
reality because you've sort of decided you're going

891
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:46.000
to spend the rest of your life
in this partially inflamed state. And once

892
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.239
people get out of that inflame state, they're like, I can think clearly,

893
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:56.119
so and what do we see associated
with wheat is ergot. Ergot fungus

894
01:16:56.359 --> 01:17:00.600
is where we get LSD from.
So it's interesting how all these sort of

895
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.920
chemicals kind of have an interplay on
the level of well, you know,

896
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:11.399
we created wheat and we really likes
what we've done with it, so it

897
01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:15.199
has it died out. It's it's
sort of become domesticated, and it allows

898
01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:17.960
us to continue sort of harvesting it
in the way that we do. It

899
01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:21.920
doesn't shut down, it doesn't have
a you know, a huge reaction to

900
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:26.520
the environment. That it's in.
So it's like all of these things come

901
01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:33.000
together to create environments cities that allow
people who want to centrally control things to

902
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:41.920
do so. You know, so
when Ergot poisoning also being responsible for apparently

903
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:46.159
the Salem witch trials as well,
and the whole idea of where we get

904
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:59.800
the witches from in the first place
is supposedly from which is well women,

905
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:02.119
it's a theory and speculation. I
don't think there's any proof for it,

906
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:10.039
but I think it's just interesting that
they would wipe the substance on, like

907
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:15.640
on on a broom, and then
they would get on the broom and then

908
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:20.840
the substance would absorb into their skin, and it was a psychedelic substance.

909
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:28.840
And uh, it's just an interesting
theory of how which is the whole idea

910
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:32.520
of a witch writing a broom came
about? Was from a woldersnogenic substance being

911
01:18:32.520 --> 01:18:38.000
put on a broom and then them
getting on the broom naked and absorbing into

912
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:43.239
their skin. And that's where we
get the whole idea of which is being

913
01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:46.119
on a broom. But er Got
poisoning, for sure, that is a

914
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:54.319
I'm pretty sure that that has been
connected to the Salem witch trials and being

915
01:18:54.359 --> 01:19:02.079
a part of the reason why the
women sail and we're executed because they were

916
01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:06.720
all tripping. They're all tripping balls, just like what you were mentioning earlier

917
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:12.600
with these people that you know in
biblical times and tripping balls du braying down

918
01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:17.119
these wild and wacky stories, right. And you've also got the Oracle at

919
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:24.720
Delphi, where they've got this oracle
sitting atop this volcanic crevice inside of a

920
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:30.199
cave, you know, taking in
these fumes and then relating visions of the

921
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.079
future. Right, it's sort of
like it's all tied into this sort of

922
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:39.079
altered state of consciousness to be able
to, you know, see beyond the

923
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:44.560
physical world's physical reality, and in
a lot of ways that that is a

924
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:48.600
huge threat to the powers that be. I watched this movie last night called

925
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:57.520
The Illusionist with Edward Norton, and
in that movie, he's seen sort of

926
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:02.680
bringing back the dead in these hollow
that he's created, and in doing so,

927
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:10.359
the people of this Austrian I think
it's just Austria, they decide that

928
01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:14.239
they're going to follow him instead of
following their king. So it's like the

929
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:19.840
belief that this guy could contact the
spirits made him a more central figure than

930
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:25.720
the prince who was running that town. And so the idea there is that

931
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:30.279
if you can start to show people
a different way or some other vision of

932
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:35.399
the future, you could kind of
command their actions. And that kind of

933
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:41.279
goes back to the Assassins or the
Hashashin, which would be this group of

934
01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:47.119
people who use potent chemicals to drug
these children into thinking that they're seeing the

935
01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:54.680
afterlife. And the afterlife that they
set up was this massive play stage where

936
01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:57.920
they believed that they were in paradise
and then they would drug them again,

937
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:04.159
they would wake back up. These
assassins as they're called, would become fearless,

938
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:09.840
you know, murderers, so they
didn't have any fear of death anymore.

939
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:15.760
So they would go out there and
kill anybody who this Assassin's guild wanted

940
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:20.680
debt and the use of mind control
chemicals in that regard is just amazing.

941
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:26.239
I mean, like this guy figured
it out. He had this whole beheading

942
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:30.319
scenario where he promised he could bring
this person back to life. So he

943
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:34.359
set up this sort of magic trick
where they could speak right, and so

944
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:39.439
he would have his troops come in
there and show them that he had this

945
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:43.680
person's head on a platter and it
was speaking, and that after it was

946
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:47.000
over with, he would actually behead
the person to show that, yeah,

947
01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:51.800
look this head was really a real
person's head and it was really talking to

948
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:57.520
you. And you know, the
unfortunate victim would be just a prop in

949
01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:01.520
this whole sort of magic trick to
it. All of the troops on board

950
01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:04.920
with what he was doing, and
they would just kidnap these orphans from all

951
01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:08.840
over the Middle East and turn them
into the perfect assassins. And this was

952
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:15.279
in the thirteen hundreds. Unbelievable.
That's wild, tricking people in the believing

953
01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:23.159
in the afterlife, under the under
a hallucinogeny drug to turn them into assassins

954
01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:30.640
because they know for sure that the
afterlife exists. M that's wild. That's

955
01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:34.880
wild. See, all these things
can there's no telling what they've done and

956
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:42.239
how they've how they've done it because
the mind is such a fragile thing and

957
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:48.079
the way that they can, the
techniques and the things that they may have

958
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:54.000
done will never really know. But
that is very that is very interesting,

959
01:22:54.640 --> 01:23:00.359
right this kingdom. I think you've
heard of Shambalah. Right, So these

960
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:02.600
are the halls of Chambala, and
you know, that's what they were talking

961
01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:06.199
about, is like this is the
afterlife, this is this great place.

962
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:13.000
And it was a very small kingdom, the Hashashian Empire, and they sort

963
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:16.880
of had a love hate relationship with
the Templars and so this is actually before

964
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:23.800
thirteen hundred, but like they dominated
the region because everybody was scared to death

965
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:30.119
of this guy's abilities, right,
And so it's the fear that really creeps

966
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:33.119
into other people's minds once they start
to see these things happen, then the

967
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:36.840
fear sort of takes over and leads
the way from there. And all we've

968
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:45.239
seen since COVID basically is one fear
tactic after another. It's just constantly trying

969
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:47.880
to get people in this fear state
so that you can lead them better in

970
01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:53.279
the direction that you want them to
go. Well, you have other techniques

971
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:57.960
that have been done as well,
you know you have, especially when it

972
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:02.640
comes to these UFO call its like
you have to make yourself be perceived as

973
01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:06.199
something bigger than what you are,
and that and that you're better than everyone

974
01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:11.560
else and that you're the only person
that can do this that you're the prophet,

975
01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:16.960
that you're the Messiah, that you're
the reincarnation of this famous historical figure.

976
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:23.520
They're all famous reincarnations of historical figures. They all claim that they're the

977
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:28.840
only ones that can disseminate this knowledge
to the people. They're the only ones

978
01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:35.800
that are in communication with Ashtar thirty
three, Galactic Federation of Planets, the

979
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:43.000
Great White Brotherhood, Afreaking Avians.
You know, it's they have to put

980
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:48.920
themselves on a big pedestal, and
that is a common theme with any cult.

981
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:58.560
The Williams some of in contact with
Williams, Robin Williams. You got

982
01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:00.880
to be in contact with Robin Williams. He's got to be a part of

983
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:06.239
the Galactic Federation and assist you in
your healings for one hundred and twenty two

984
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:12.840
dollars through Zoom, and he's got
to appear to you in your in your

985
01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:18.960
bedroom at night. That's a real
thing, having the Love as one cult

986
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:29.640
with Amy Carlson, And that's the
common thing with anybody that is perceived to

987
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:38.039
And it's so interesting too, because
those types of people seem to be the

988
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:43.239
most popular people for some reason,
and it's so strange, like it's the

989
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:50.079
ones that are that profess to have
something that nobody else has. You know,

990
01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:58.199
it's not like somebody like me that
is just looking at research and digging

991
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:03.920
into things and trying to figure out
like truths and you know that does real

992
01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:14.560
work. You know, it's the
people that profess to know something that you

993
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:21.279
don't know, and instead of telling
you that, they keep that information to

994
01:26:21.319 --> 01:26:27.520
themselves when the information is completely one
made up information, it's not real.

995
01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:32.600
But that attracts an audience, right, that attracts intrigue. You know,

996
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:43.199
people don't want to listen to hardcore
factual information, which really bewoters me,

997
01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:47.880
doesn't make any sense to me at
all. Like I would much rather listen

998
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:56.880
to someone that is critical, common
sense, has good information, accurate information,

999
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:02.319
trustworthy information. Then I would rather
listen into somebody that has that is

1000
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:05.720
seen that they are the only one
that has this information. They know what's

1001
01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:11.479
going to happen. They have all
these wild and wacky predictions for twenty years

1002
01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:15.199
in the freaking future or next month
or next year or any of the stuff.

1003
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:17.960
And it's a newsflash because it's the
same thing that happens every single time.

1004
01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:23.920
It never happens none of it ever
happens, but people keep falling for

1005
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:27.199
the same nonsense over and over and
over again. And these people on mass

1006
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:32.560
are really really big following of people
they do. They get thousands and thousands

1007
01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:38.600
of views, like hundreds of thousands
of subscribers, like everything they post just

1008
01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:43.439
completely goes viral. It's unbelievable.
I don't understand it. I really don't

1009
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:45.560
get it, and I think I
get I got a good explanation for you.

1010
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:51.439
So let's say that most of the
people following them have had something unexplainable

1011
01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:56.439
happen in their own lives, and
so the very first thing that they think

1012
01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:00.840
is that since this was unexplainable and
it happened to me, there must be

1013
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:08.880
more completely unexplainable things happening that I
can sort of gravitate to now. Instead

1014
01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:12.680
of coming back and saying, how
do I break this down rationally? Put

1015
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:15.760
the things I do understand in certain
containers, put the things I don't understand

1016
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:19.479
in other containers, and then try
to walk through the steps to get to

1017
01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:25.399
this greater understanding of truth. Instead
of doing that, they go, well,

1018
01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:31.680
I've got to look for somebody who's
got the maximum amount of unknowable stuff

1019
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:40.600
that's going on, and so it's
almost like a traumatization through inexplicable circumstances.

1020
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:47.920
That's yeah, like almost like a
trauma bond. That's exactly what it seems

1021
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:53.600
like. And people love the unknown, and that's why I'm convinced that people

1022
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:59.399
really don't want the answers, and
that's why content like mine I have to

1023
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:03.880
work one hundred times harder than other
people, because really people they don't want

1024
01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:11.800
the truth. They don't want ration. They don't because there's already enough problems

1025
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:16.039
in their life as it is,
right. They want the unexplainable. They

1026
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:26.760
want the fairytale nonsense because it takes
them away from their normal, everyday,

1027
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:33.800
mundane life, you know, and
turns it. Because that Netflix docuseries that

1028
01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:39.560
I had Clyde Lewis on that he
was on episode seven with the Blobs of

1029
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:44.960
the Blobs of Washington State. He
was in episode seven of that. He

1030
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:48.640
was like the main person of that
whole episode. Every one of those episodes

1031
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:58.279
were like weird, supernatural, strange, mystery things and they're unexplained, right,

1032
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:03.319
I Mean, there's rational thought and
rational people inside of them that has

1033
01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:06.159
their opinions. But at the end
of every one of them. They're like,

1034
01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:11.640
oh, it's we still don't really
know what happened in this scenario,

1035
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:17.720
and it's the most watched Netflix document
docuseries of all time. People want that

1036
01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:23.319
stuff and it's the frontier, and
I think that's great. I mean,

1037
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:26.560
that's what's always driven people, is
where the frontier is. And we're at

1038
01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:32.479
the frontier now where we have to
start looking at the unexplainable stuff because there's

1039
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.720
no more continence for us to divisit, at least that we know of.

1040
01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:40.880
So, you know, there's the
front tier is basically the mind and what's

1041
01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:46.600
unknowable all around us, you know. I mean there's been this big push

1042
01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:54.119
for WU things all the time.
You know, it's it's and WU is

1043
01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:59.239
really popular right now. It's popular
then, it's than it's ever been.

1044
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:05.319
And I think that that is in
due part two religion as well, and

1045
01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:11.399
people not wanting to believe that this
is the only thing that we have,

1046
01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:16.359
that life has no meaning, that
we're just here floating in space, that

1047
01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:21.880
we're just a rock in the middle
of nowhere and life has no meaning and

1048
01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:29.840
life has no purpose. You know, they would rather take you know,

1049
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:34.319
the extraterrestrials. The universe is so
populated that there's these other civilizations and these

1050
01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:40.479
glanky civilizations running around on spaceships.
There's life elsewhere on the planet, even

1051
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:43.319
though there's no evidence and no proof
of it. They would rather take that

1052
01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:47.840
than the example of us being alone. And I think that in my personal

1053
01:31:47.960 --> 01:31:56.159
view, us being alone is a
way more fascinating thought and a way more

1054
01:31:56.199 --> 01:32:00.199
fascinating idea, like why why would
we be alone? What is this?

1055
01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:04.840
You know? What? What are
we doing here? Is just a simulation?

1056
01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:10.880
You know, I think there's way
more questions and way more things to

1057
01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:15.239
ask if we are the only living
things in the universe, If we are

1058
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:25.399
the only physical incarnation on the only
planet that is inhabited by human like beings,

1059
01:32:26.319 --> 01:32:31.439
right, well, there's a way
more fascinating than we're just a you

1060
01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:38.199
know, a little blimp on the
radar of the entire universe that there's thousands

1061
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:41.800
and thousands of other planets. Because
that doesn't make us special, That doesn't

1062
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.840
make us special at all. It
actually makes us more special if we are

1063
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:53.319
the only living beings in the universe, right, I would mean are very

1064
01:32:53.359 --> 01:33:00.199
important? Well, I think it's
it's interesting how the narrative flipped on the

1065
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:05.640
UFO disclosure thing. I mean,
we see them sort of going from,

1066
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:11.840
well, we've got these what do
they call them? This non human intelligences?

1067
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:15.760
Right? What does that mean?
Like we've got all these new abstractions

1068
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:21.000
that they've sort of jumped to instead
of talking about their involvement in all of

1069
01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:25.479
these other cases. Now, what
you've been doing is showing people, yes,

1070
01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:30.720
there's government involvement in all of these
cases, that should cause you to

1071
01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:35.119
question the validity of all of it. But instead they sort of had to

1072
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:41.960
jump to other sort of new abstractions
to kind of keep people on that same

1073
01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:46.119
level of thinking that maybe it was
something else, like non human intelligence is

1074
01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:49.640
not a computer? Is a computer
a non human intelligence? Could I use

1075
01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:54.199
AI in this process and then say
I've been in contact with the non human

1076
01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:59.199
intelligence? That's right. All these
words have multiple meanings in multiple things.

1077
01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:01.039
In the public said it means one
thing, and the people that are listening

1078
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:04.479
to think is that it means one
thing, and then what they're actually meaning

1079
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:10.199
is something completely different. And that's
been the game from the very beginning.

1080
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:14.119
Like a lot of these buzzwords and
a lot of the things that people talk

1081
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:19.960
about have ulterior and multiple meanings and
what you think that it means isn't the

1082
01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:27.520
correct meaning from my personal not you, but you know people within the community,

1083
01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:30.359
right, like you got crash retrieval. Crash retrieval's a big buzz where

1084
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:33.000
the floats around the community a lot, and people are like, oh,

1085
01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:36.359
well, crash retrieval means that it
was something that was that was visible.

1086
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:39.560
They saw it fall out of the
sky, They saw it on radar,

1087
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:44.000
and they called the the military.
The military wind and excavated and found it,

1088
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:47.119
and they took it back to the
freaking lab, the deep underground military

1089
01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:50.279
basis, and then reverse engineered it
and turned it into their own technology.

1090
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:53.880
Well, that doesn't have to be
the case. One, It doesn't have

1091
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:58.479
to have happened in modern times.
It could have happened hundreds of years ago,

1092
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:01.880
could happen thousands of years ago.
The craft could have been dug up

1093
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:05.920
in an archaeological dig in modern times, but it could have been there for

1094
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:11.840
thousands of freaking years. Right.
Alien invasion. Right, you go to

1095
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:15.079
a different country, you're an alien. You're not from that country. You're

1096
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:19.119
an alien there, you're just visiting. You're an alien. Right, you

1097
01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:25.960
just put freaking illegal in front of
alien, and you have a completely different

1098
01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:29.600
term of what an alien means.
Right, Everyone's like, oh, well,

1099
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:36.600
you know aliens are all around us, they've always been here. You

1100
01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:43.000
know, they're creating alien human hybrids. Well, when you just tack on

1101
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:47.079
illegal in front of alien, it
makes a lot more sense. Okay,

1102
01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:51.479
they are everywhere, they are here, they've always been here, and they

1103
01:35:51.520 --> 01:36:01.079
are making hybrids. Right. I
think it's so funny that people don't think

1104
01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:05.479
of words like brushstrokes. Right.
So if we're gonna, if we're gonna

1105
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:10.399
take these abstractions, what we should
do is think of them like a brush

1106
01:36:10.520 --> 01:36:14.760
joke on a painting. And if
you have absolutely no idea why that brush

1107
01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:18.039
joke is right there on that painting
in the place that it is, maybe

1108
01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:24.039
it's time to look at it differently
because it definitely means something to somebody.

1109
01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:27.760
And once you can have access to
that meaning, you can kind of get

1110
01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:31.520
away from some of the confusion that
it produces. You know, Well,

1111
01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:36.359
then you have like national security threat. Right. That's something that the UFO

1112
01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:45.359
community, especially the big proprietors of
disclosure, talk about, is that this

1113
01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.119
is a national security threat. Every
time they have a panel or a governmental

1114
01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:53.960
organization, it's always, ah,
these things are repeeding our airspace. They're

1115
01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:59.600
just all over military airspace. They're
they're they're traveling with impunity and like all

1116
01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:06.319
this stuff. Well, if you
look at what national security threat actually means,

1117
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:17.800
a national security threat is another country
threatening our country or the citizens of

1118
01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:25.279
a country threatening the country itself,
right, the government, Yeah, that's

1119
01:37:25.319 --> 01:37:28.640
what a national security threat means.
So it makes more sense to me that

1120
01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:36.000
a national security threat would be that
this is our technology, it's our military

1121
01:37:36.079 --> 01:37:41.439
drones, it's our military craft,
and if another country finds out that it's

1122
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:46.039
our craft, then they and they
figure that out and they're like, this

1123
01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:51.680
isn't really unidentified flying out, this
isn't really UAPs, it's your guys' craft.

1124
01:37:53.399 --> 01:37:57.000
Then we get exposed. And then
if that other country gets a hold

1125
01:37:57.399 --> 01:38:02.199
of that advanced military technology and they
do it too, then that's the national

1126
01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:11.000
security threat. Right, Not because
extraterrestrials are flying around in American airspace or

1127
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:15.479
unauthorized airspace. It's because if another
country finds out that it's our technology,

1128
01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:21.680
then we're screwed. That's what they
mean by national security threat. But it's

1129
01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:28.479
been hit under the guys of ufology
and hit under the guise of the community.

1130
01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:34.560
And when people would hear national security
threat under the context of UFOs and

1131
01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:43.119
UAPs, they automatically assume that it's
extra tresh true. Right, Well,

1132
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:45.279
that goes straight back into the MK
ultra. You know, we can't reveal

1133
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:49.359
our own crimes because that would be
a threat to national security. That would

1134
01:38:49.359 --> 01:38:55.760
be a threat to us the people
who committed the crimes exactly. So I

1135
01:38:55.760 --> 01:38:59.680
think this has been a great episode. I love talking my control with you,

1136
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:02.600
but to tell people where they can
find your documentaries and tell them what's

1137
01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:08.640
coming up next. You can find
my documentary JFKX Solving the Crime in the

1138
01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:15.199
Century on Amazon Prime. You can
also watch it on to Be for Free

1139
01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:18.159
with ads. If you have the
two B app you can just type in

1140
01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:24.079
JFKX and you can watch it on
there, or buy it on or rent

1141
01:39:24.079 --> 01:39:29.279
it on Amazon Prime, whichever one
is easiest for you. And if you'd

1142
01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:32.479
like to check out my work,
you can find me on Raised by Giants,

1143
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:35.960
on YouTube, on any and all
podcast platforms, and if you'd like

1144
01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:41.840
to reach out to me personally on
Instagram at Raised by giants Pod and Twitter

1145
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:45.119
x at raised by Giants eight.
Thanks for having me on. Brother,

1146
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:48.840
really appreciate it. Is a great
conversation, absolutely absolutely wonderful. I can't

1147
01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:53.359
wait for your new documentary to come
out about all this sort of stuff.

1148
01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:56.720
So it's been great having you on. Thanks for joining us, everybody.

1149
01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:58.000
I'll see you again next time.