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Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino,
Hi Tom Martina here, Welcome to the

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Now I want to go right to
the phones and help, and then we'll

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talk to doctor Joel Trudak about stem
cell therapy. Also about semiglutide or tizerpetide

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terzepetide, I mean turzepetite is the
newest ingredient in these weight loss things.

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I've heard none of those advertised on
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names, I don't know what brand
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to this semigluetide, but better stronger. So guys, listen to that if

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you're looking to lose weight, or
if you're a diabetic, because some diabetics

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have been going to uh denver Regen
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I know you do this for weight
loss, but we're a diabetic and can't

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get the brand names, you know, and in that case even their insurance

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would have paid for it, so
they just say, what the hell for

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two hundred and fifty bucks or whatever, We'll just go with you, guys.

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So that's very interesting, right,
because it's it can be done.

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You know, you talk to your
doctor and they can supply you. Now,

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Brad wants to talk about an issue
with a boat loan. You know,

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Bread, how long have you owned
a boat? Hey, hey Tom,

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how are you doing? Good man? How long have you owned a

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boat? Well? I haven't.
And that's a little bit of the reason

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I'm going in is that I went
into if I can say the name of

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the business. Sure, go ahead. We as long as it's the truth,

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we can talk about anything. Okay. Well, I was in a

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bass pro shop and I was looking
at one there, twenty twenty four tahoes.

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The price on the boat was a
refer around sixty eight thousand dollars.

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Holy correct. I didn't know boats
for that. Again. I mean,

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I know yachts and stuff, but
tell me what you get for sixty eight

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grand. Well, it had a
Mercury thirty three twenty five on it,

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open about, had the racks for
the wakeboarding, all that kind of jazz,

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and yeah, that was a nice
looking boat. Anyway, I talked

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to one of their finance managers over
there, and you know, she just

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wanted to go ahead and pull my
credit and see how thing was going to

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roll there, and see if I
could get PERF for the loan. Waited

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about forty five minutes and they came
back with an a PREF loan. But

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the down payment and you have to
understand on the sign on the boat,

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they show up five hundred and ninety
one dollars monthly payment. Yeah, with

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good credit. I came back at
let's see, for twenty years at one

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thousand and eleven dollars in ninety six
a month. Hold on a second,

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You mean to tell me they financed
those suckers for twenty years? That's correct?

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What is your down payment on that? The down payment that they listed

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was seven thousand, five hundred and
fifty eight dollars five hundred okay, and

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so tell me where are we going
with this? Well, you know I

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have a question because I got a
letter because when I got back the information,

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you know, I'm not gonna when
when you add everything out there with

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the now payment that's two hundred and
seventy four thousand, Well, of course

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it is. Have you ever looked
at what you're paying for your house?

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Of course it is? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, of course it is

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seventeen point nine nine percent interest.
Anyway, I got a note from Experience

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and the boat lender and they said
that I was not approved for the loan

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and it dropped my credit by eighty
points. Now, okay, Brad,

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I want to I want to pull
this apart a little. Let me get

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this straight. Did you make the
purchase or not? I did not?

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Okay, good, But when you
went there, they pulled your credit and

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they said seventy five hundred dollars down
twenty years one eleven. When you did

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the math, you realize how much
the cost of financing really is and what

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it's costing you. If you add
that to the fact that the boat's depreciating

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over all that time. Depreciating assets
and financing don't mix. Well, Okay,

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so I don't want to get into
that. But in any case,

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you got you got spanked, and
now, to add insult to injury,

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your credit took a hit. I
don't know why your credit would take a

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hit if you were not approved of
that. It just seems a little bit

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untruthful, I guess would be the
best word. What's untruthful? Because I

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had the emails showing that I was
approved for it. Oh oh, that

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part, well, that part is
I can't address why they said you were

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approved. Then you weren't, but
I'm kind of glad you weren't because this

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is not a great deal. Well, I actually I've got the email is

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showing that I was approved. I
could find the line that I know,

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but I'm saying, I'm saying I'm
glad you weren't because now you're not going

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to buy it, and I don't
I think you should make a wiser purchase

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with the better finance. I guess, I guess. My big question is

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is there any type of restitution for
uh scored? Well, well, hold

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on, okay, you're blaming them
for hitting your credit. I don't understand

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your credit took how much of a
hit? Have any points? I don't

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understand that part. That that part
just for an inquiry. I think they

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showed you as getting this loan.
I think you need to get this corrected.

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I think it's a mistake. They
showed you as approved. They showed

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you as now having more debt.
That's the only There's no way that your

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credit would go down seventy points from
one inquiry. There's no way, And

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I agree with you. That's kind
of the reason for my call, is

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it? But let me say something, Brad, I would contact New Housing

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and New Bottle Loans and you know
this is going to affect my credit for

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a while. Is there any type
of recitation you can do against company?

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Well, of course, there's no
rest because the dealer. The dealer didn't

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do anything wrong. What did the
dealer do wrong? I would agree with

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you. It seems a bit greedy
on that type of the loan loan.

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Hold on, Brady, No,
Brad, now you're talk hold on,

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are you talking about the loan or
are you talking about your credit? Because

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but the dealer, it doesn't matter
what loan it was. It was one

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inquiry. You know, I think
you're mixing things apples and oranges. You're

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upset with this loan because it's greedy. I totally agree with you. It's

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a terrible loan. I would never
do that loan. Did you say it

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was seventeen percent interest? Some deem
point nine? I well, of course

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at eighteen percent, you know,
geez, that's a lot of money.

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It's a greedy loan. But that
has nothing to do with pulling your credit.

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I think what happened is somewhere a
mistake was made that showed you got

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to prove. Now they're showing you
with an eighteen percent loan at that much

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money, and I think if you
pull your credit, you will find that,

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and when you find it, you
dispute it. That's how you do

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it. You pull the report when
if they show that credit was granted,

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you have to show it was not. You'll get you'll take a hit of

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a few points for a credit report, and that's it. Okay, and

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you know I did a request yesterday
when I called in to them, so

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they've got the paperwork coming over to
me. That was my question. I

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just didn't know. But let me
explain something. Okay, again, there

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is no restitution because they did not
do it. If they did something reckless,

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that would be different, or reported
you as Let's say they reported you

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as defaulting on the loan because they
wanted you to buy it and they approved

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you. And when they approved you, they took recourse on the loan.

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By the way, this has happened
in the past on other things. So

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in other words, they are so
sure you're going to buy they take recourse,

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meaning they guaranteed the loan with the
lender. You, on the other

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hand, decided not to buy it
because you never signed a buy order and

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therefore they have a loan sitting at
the dealership. So then you didn't come

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back to get the boat. So
they default you on the loan. That

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would be slander of credit, that
would be totally illegal. But they didn't

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do that. I don't believe.
So yeah, I don't believe. So

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that kind of clears things up for
me. Tom. I appreciate your time

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today, but man, I listen. I hope you find a boat,

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but man, don't get tricked in. Don't ever get tricked into that kind

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of money. Oh no, can
you let me if you can afford that?

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You do you have equity in your
home? Uh? You know,

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I'm actually I ran it. Okay, buy a house first, broa and

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then and then a boat or rent
a boat. I mean, I don't

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know how bad you want the boat, but man, it's not a good

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economic I was kind of looking at
it and the payment seemed kind of reasonable

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for what I was looking at.
And then I said, but it's not

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reasonable because it's a twenty year commitment. Here, it's you're never going to

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keep the boat twenty years? Are
you? Oh? No, okay,

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so listen to this one, Brad. You're not going to keep it twenty

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years. So tell me the truth. How long do you think you will

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keep it? You know, next
time I get a boat, I'm pretty

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good enough keep so you know I
would like it till last, you know,

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at least fifteen, possibly twenty years. Oh, I didn't realize you

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actually have you ever had a boat
that long? How old are you?

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Yes? Fifty? So man,
so you're not you sound like a kid.

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I don't know. I'm sorry.
Man. So, Brad, you've

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actually owned so you're an experience.
You've owned a boat and kept one for

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a long time. Yeah, read
both them. CA. Okay, Well

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then you're a different animal, man, and you're you're a different animal.

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But my concern is once you finance
something like this a depreciable asset over a

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twenty year period for a good part
of that loan life, you are upside

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down, so you will always have
to come out of pocket to get rid

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of it. That's all I'm saying. We got more coming up. I'm

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Doctor Joel's with us from Denver Regen
dot com. Doctor Joel real quick

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here. I wanted him ask you
how's are people? Are people? They're

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responding like crazy, I know that
yes, are you getting diabetics as well?

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They can't get the brand names?
Uh yeah, particularly since we started

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mentioning on your show. What about
trus epetide, Can you explain that to

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me? What is that? So
tur's eppetite is also it acts in a

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similar way as some meglatide. They're
both called golp one agonist. So all

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that means is that they are attaching
to a receptor that causes your appetite to

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decrease. Tre'zeppetite is a little bit
more specific. It's a little stronger of

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a drug, it has less side
effects. It's the same active ingredient that's

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in Manduro. Oh okay, so
there is a brand name called Manduro.

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Yeah, yeah, and that's trus
appetide. Some meglotide, which is our

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biggest seller, which is what most
people are taking, is the same active

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ingredient that's in will go via nozempic
so, but they all act in the

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same way. It's just very simply, the TR's appetite is a bit stronger

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of a medication with less side effects
than the semeglatite is all right, and

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that Denver Regen dot com starting at
two fifty a month. You can't beat

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it, man, can't beat it
all right now? And I know people

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on it. Let's talk to Niles
as an issue with Brighton Ford. Niles,

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what's happening? How you doing,
good man? What's going on with

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you? Uh? So my issue
basically stands from earlier this year. So

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I bought a brand new twenty twenty
two Ford Maverick from Brighton Ford. Those

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are nice, man, Oh yeah, ordered it out online, waited a

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whole year to get it. Now
what year was it? New? Twenty

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two? I bought? Okay,
your model? All right. So the

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this January, I'm at work,
my powertrain went out on me. No,

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what do you mean? What what
the powertrain is a lot of stuff?

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So they I thought, they told
me, is the powertrain went out?

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And well, what do you mean? They told you? What?

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Tell me what happened to you?
You were driving and all of a sudden

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could put or what so I went
to go get in my car, go

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to turn it on and go drive
forward, and then it loses all powered.

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It's a hybrid, so it lost
all power. Started it back up

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nothing. After a couple of minutes
started it back up. I was able

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to put it in reverse, get
it parked, and then my phone gave

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me a notification saying that there's a
powertrain connection issue and I need to take

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it to the dealership. Wait a
minute, your phone. Yeah, it's

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connected. Thought, It's all connected, like with the computers and stuff.

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So, by the way, may
I ask something on this hybrid? How

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many horse power do they rate that? Oh? God, I couldn't even

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tell you. Well, did you
feel like it? Or like is it

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a one? Is it equivalent to
like a one fifty? Or what I'd

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say? Probably like maybe like that
or two? Like two hundred horse powers?

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A take No, No, I
don't mean horsepower. I mean like,

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is it like a fifteen hundred pick
up? Think of like a smaller

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Ford Ranger, just like a Ford
Ranger. Oh, it's one of those

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smaller downsize trucks. It's just like
a smaller, smaller Ford Ranger, just

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a smaller It doesn't have plenty of
power for what I needed. Does Yeah,

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I get a toe a. You
know, I can tow up to

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a ton with it. I can
do what I need to do for my

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job. It's great for me.
But anyway, the powertrain ended up having

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an issue. I had it towed
to Bright and Forward. They had it

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for about two weeks and then I
finally get a phone call from them saying,

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hey, we've got it fixed.
It was the power training. I

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don't get. I don't hold on, bro, I don't want to hear

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powertrain. I mean, there's so
many components. What did they tell you

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anything specific they did? They just
said they fixed it. But here's where

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the problem comes in. They go, we fixed it, but while we

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were out test driving, your vehicle
was involved in a small accident. There's

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some damage. You can come and
get your car. It's driver. So

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I get you have a brand new
truck, little and they say, sorry,

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what kind of accident? And they
got rear ended by some dump truck

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or something and they were pushed into
another vehicle because they were parts two clothes

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and so now I have rear ends
and front end damage. Hold on,

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hold on, it was parked when
it happened. They were stopped at a

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light waiting. Okay, now,
Niles, you're gonna hate hearing this.

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Here it is. They were a
permissive driver. They did not steal your

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truck. They did not negligently use
your truck going out to a bar after

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work. It wasn't an employee on
a joy ride. It was a permissive

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use of the car and they did. What's that? I totally get that,

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and I know that they're now hold
on, no, no, I

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want to tell other people listening,
not only was it a permissive use,

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but they were not at fault.
It would have been a whole different ballgame

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if they were at fault. They
were a permissive driver and another driver hit

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them. It's exactly the same as
if you were driving and another driver hit

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you. It's all about collecting from
the other driver and from your insurance or

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both. Gotcha. It sucks?
Oh yeah, but it's but it's true.

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You can I can't see you suing
them for negligence or for damages.

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Now you're going to say it was
in their Karen custody. I totally agree

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with you. There might be attorneys
who believe there was a bailment created and

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they had a duty to uphold,
and they have to give it back to

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exactly the same as was given to
them. That might hold up, and

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I'd like to check with an attorney. In fact, John Fuller doesn't do

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property damage. He does personal injury, but he knows about it, So

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I'm going to ask him. I
want to get an attorney's opinion. What

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were you hoping that they would just
have to make you whole? Right?

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Yeah, at least either fix it
or you know, I mean, what

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do they say about that? What
do they say about it? What do

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they say about it not our problem? They do? They say basically the

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same thing as I said, it's
not their fault. Yeah, they just

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said, it's not our fault,
it's here's the other guy's insurance. It's

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on you now and then and then
basically they were just kind of like.

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What frustrates me though, is I
did buy the gap coverage. Thankfully I

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was smart enough to do that,
because the autobody shop puted me at twenty

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five thousand dollars in repairs. That's
more than the truck is worse. So

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well, you're gonna get so you're
going to get a new truck anyway,

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right, Hopefully if the if the
insurance is going to do that, the

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other guy's insurance, the other party's
insurance is and what do you care?

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Let me ask you something. Let
me ask you something. Straight up,

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it's a not at fault accident.
Why do you care if your insurance,

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the other guy's insurance, or the
dealer pays it. What do you care?

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I'm out the three thousand dollars cash
I put as a down payment.

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No you shouldn't. No, no, no, no, no no.

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You would not be out that if
you bought the gap and you listen,

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if you're made whole and get another
truck, how are you out three thousand

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dollars if they give me a new
truck? The other insurance company has been

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very well, no, they're not
going to give you a new truck.

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They're going to give you a truck
equivalent to the truck you had one second

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before the accident. And I'd love
that. I would love if they could

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do that that. Well, how
many miles were on this truck? Only

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eighteen thousand? Then you should get
a truck of comparable value. Why do

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you think they won't? Are who
was the other guys insurance? It's a

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company called Seduick. Okay, here's
what I want to do. Let's get

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our attorney on you called in.
I want to get you some quality advice.

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Okay, that'd be great. I'd
appreciate that. Thank you. Sure,

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Let's get John Fuller on Kaschina if
you can. And then I understand

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we're also going to have a follow
up that Deputy Chopper was working on with

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Solar. So I'd like to get
either Mark On or brook either Probidenergy dot

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Mark conkleprobid Energy dot com. Or let's

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get Brooke on from Red Rocks roof
and Solar. Okay, so we got

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I want to line her up for
when that Solar call comes in. I

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Now, let's figure this out.
I have John Fuller with me. He's

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a personal injury expert, but he
deals in this stuff all the time.

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When it comes to accidents and cars, he knows about it. Let's put

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it that way. It's about property, dam John. I want to just

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run this by you. Let's say
it's you. I know you like pickup

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trucks, so you take your pickup
truck to a dealer for repairs. They're

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out test driving it. They're a
permissive driver. They're out test driving it.

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The guy didn't take it home from
work. I want to make it

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clear it wasn't unauthorized us. The
guy was test driving. It rear ended

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by another truck. So what happens
now? He'd like them to replace his

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truck the dealer. The dealer says, listen, it's just like an accident.

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It's not our fault. Somebody ran
into us. So what do you

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think, John? Is there any
bailman agreement when a dealer takes a truck,

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do they have a higher level of
responsibility to him or can they say?

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Please say? That's like, hey, if your truck was stolen,

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we wouldn't have been responsible unless we
contributed. I don't know. I mean,

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I'm not trying to bait you.
I need to know what you think.

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Okay. So my analysis of this
is that you hit the nail on

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the head when you said they're a
permissive driver, and as a permissive driver,

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the insurance coverage that you have on
the vehicle would still be in effect

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and would provide all of the coverage
that is on that vehicle. The only

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exception I think that may come up
would be if it was not a permissive

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use. And generally, as you
know, if you give somebody permission at

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any point to use your vehicle,
then forever more until the end of time.

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They're considered to be a permissive driver
under Colorado laws. So I kind

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of think that with a dealership it
may be it may be the case that

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that permission stops at the end of
their authorize you. So you couldn't they

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couldn't take your car and go to
the fast food place for lunch or you

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know, or go to a bar
after work or do something like that.

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But as long as they're operating it
within the scope of the permission that you

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granted them, I think that your
insurance is going to apply. But in

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this case, because they were rear
ended, even though they subsequently hit another

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vehicle, it's still going to be
the fault of the vehicle behind them that

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did the rear ending. Right,
That's where all the coverage is going to

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start. The dealership does not owe
them a new vehicle in my opinion.

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Okay, Niles, I want to
ask you something you're not denying it was

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permissive use, right, I'm assuming
it was. Yeah, I'm that they

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had to take it out and test
dry that once they were done repairing it,

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So yeah, that's too bad.
Now as far as your down payment

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goes, they may not say to
you, here's your down payment and here's

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money for the truck, but they
have to settle with you on the value

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of the truck. Where it might
get dicey is where you can't come to

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an agreement on what the value is
and for that, I want to refer

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you to someone else. And that's
petty details. Look for petty details on

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a referral list. They do this
for people for free, most of the

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time a small fee of you really
have to fight and go into arbitration.

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These guys are the experts at valuing
vehicles. Okay, petty details. So

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I'm sorry about this, but you
know what I'm thinking. It's one of

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those things that that happened and I'm
telling you people they just can't stand it.

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Two other examples, Niles. Let's
say your truck's there and he gets

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hit by hal. I say,
what happens if it was part at a

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friend's house or at a mole and
a guy hit by Hell, it's not

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the dealer's fault. The way it
would be the dealer's fault is if they

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promised you they were going to keep
it inside and they didn't, or they

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saw it coming and said, you
know what, let's pull this guy's truck

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out. We don't like them,
you know, something stupid. The other

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one is theft or vandalism unless they
contributed to it they left the keys in

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the car, or they were stupid
about it. So that's the way that

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normally works. Three oh three seven
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it's Melissa's Melissa's uh turn, Melissa,

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what's happening? Melissa high? Anyways, I think somebody has I used my

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unemployment, your unemployment? How do
you? Why do you think that?

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Because there got me on an integrity
hold? Now as hold on? Were

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you on unemployment and then they put
you on a hold or did you try

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to get unemployment? I tried to
get unemployment, so you were not on

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unemployment. You just tried to apply
and they said to you. You know,

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Melissa, you're on an integrity hold. Mm hmm. So when did

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you try? When did you apply
for unemployment? Around the fourth of February?

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And what did they say? They
said you can't How long did they

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wait to tell you this? I
told me I had to be put to

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go through an integrity hole before I
could get my unemployment. And what did

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that mean is this something everyone goes
through. I've never heard of this before,

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or did they tell you it was
due to a problem. It's due

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to people froggy department layer before twenty
sixteen. But so does everyone go on

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this integrity hold or or is it
only if they think you've been hacked?

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As far as I know, they
said everyone has to do this. Oh

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okay, and how long do they
put you on an integrity hold? Suppose

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to the age of ten weeks?
Wow? Wait a minute, so anyone

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who goes for unemployment is put on
an integrity hold for that long? Yeah,

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at the least. What I don't
know if you saw the New last

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night, but they had a lady
that's been on that so longer than that.

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What do people do for money when
they're I don't I don't even understand

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this hold on? So so what
are you calling us to let us know?

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Or did you think we could get
through and have it lifted or what?

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You know? I need I need
to let people know. Yes,

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so this is going on. But
at the same time I'm having problems with

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this. Well, of course,
because you need to pay my bills now,

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you know. I you know what
Katschina, get one of our deputies

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on this. We need to ask. We need to get a spokesperson on

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from Unemployment to to talk about integrity
holds. Seriously, I have never heard

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of this before. It's Kachina.
I don't know if she's on the phone,

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she's here, Okay, Kaschina.
We have a contact over at Unemployment.

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We do. I want to hear. I just want to know.

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Maybe Phil will come on Spsshart if
he's if he could maybe comment on integrity

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holds. I can always reach out
to them. Let me let me see

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what I can keep saying. Everyone
is being put on this due to excessive

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fraud. But what is what happens
to her? Melissa? Leave your name

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and number so we can call and
figure out what the heck is going on.

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show. Three zero three seven to
one to three talk three all three each

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seven one three eight two five five. We got another thing here. Let

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me put on that wide shot for
doctor Joel. Another question we got texted

409
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to us five seven seven three nine. You can text me if you have

410
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a question. They want to know
if you go off. They've heard different

411
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things. When you go off of
semaglutide or chrzepetide for weight loss, do

412
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you gain the weight right back?
I have an answer for that, but

413
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I mean you tell me what the
official answer is. Well, there was

414
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a study in the Journal of the
American Medical Association on that very topic,

415
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and what it showed is that people
lose tend to lose about twenty percent of

416
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their body weight over the course of
twelve weeks if they go off to if

417
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they go off some meglotide, then
over the course of the next thirty over

418
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the course of the next thirty six
weeks, they gained back about half of

419
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the weight. So you maintain at
least ten percent of the weight loss over

420
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the next three years, even if
you go off of it after the first

421
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three months. Okay, here's what
I think. The whole idea is,

422
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you get used to new eating habits
if you do it right right, in

423
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other words, you look at what
the volume was and what you're doing now.

424
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And the only reason I think you
would go off it, I think

425
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your body gets used to less calories. And I think the only reason you

426
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go off it is psychologically. Yeah, I mean, really, I another

427
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not go off it. I mean, the only reason you would increase your

428
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caloric intake, it's not because you
need it. Your body will be convinced

429
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of that after time. Yeah,
I mean, we see that with our

430
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patients that have been on it for
three four months that they're just maintaining the

431
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.960
weight loss that they've had Denver Regen
dot com. Let's go to Michael.

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He has a comment on integrity holes. So I found out something today I've

433
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never heard before war and that is
integrity holds for unemployment and that means that

434
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everybody has to wait. I don't
know what that means, but go ahead,

435
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.880
what do you have to say about
that? Michael? It is a

436
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real thing. Uh. I you
know back at the oh, you know,

437
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starting at the COVID you know,
yeah, craft that went around.

438
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.799
You know, that's a lot of
fraud job loss. Yeah, what a

439
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:42.640
front. And I collected unployment and
after a while, you know, managed

440
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:49.079
to kind of get back on my
feat get another job, and unfortunately that

441
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:53.559
one also came to an end,
and so I reapplied and uh, were

442
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:59.400
you put on hold? Yes,
you know there was a problem and it

443
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:04.000
like was Scott six months into it
and I'm like, what's the what to

444
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.640
you? And know what? So, by the way, did you finally

445
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.239
get the back payment? I did? I did finally, But then you

446
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:13.079
know that was the term that came
up. Well, I see there's an

447
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.960
integrity goal placed on your Okay,
thank you for confirming that we're going to

448
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:21.119
find out more about it coming up. I'm Tom Martinez three O three seven

449
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.000
one three eight two five five.
Don't forget. We have more with Denver

450
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:31.840
Regen dot com as well. What
would your twelve year old self say?

451
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.800
Now, you want to be a
doctor. You don't think teachers saved lots.

452
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.880
Go with a sure thing Denver's best
roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You

453
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:46.960
don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance check up free,

454
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.519
no obligation. In comparison, call
Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

455
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.400
at dozens of insurance companies find out
now three oh three seven seven to one

456
00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.519
help. You'll think you're his only
customer when you choose Frank durand Real estate

457
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.960
Man dot com to list your home
with Remax Alliance three all three nine two

458
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:19.920
zero sixteen twenty two ripped tough news. Need advice so you don't have come

459
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:25.880
running as fast as we can.
Shooter's gonna help. Come man, This

460
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:32.039
is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom
Martino. Hey, I'm Tom Martino.

461
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.719
Welcome to the show. If you're
looking for home improvements. The Castle Rock

462
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.599
Home Show coming up this weekend starting
at noon on Friday. They're fun.

463
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.760
The Castle Rock is really fun.
Plenty of parking you don't mess with downtown

464
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:51.119
Denver Douglas County Fairgrounds. Look it
up. The Castle Rock Home Show this

465
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.599
weekend like over three hundred booths.
If you're looking for something to do,

466
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.920
I think I'm gonna drop down.
It's gonna be fun. And that's Friday,

467
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.880
Saturday and Sunday Saturday. It starts
at ten in the morning Sunday at

468
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.840
eleven, So that's casser Rock Holme
Show. Hey, let's talk to you

469
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:10.760
today. We have our guest in
talking about semaglutide and turns eppetide, which

470
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:19.280
are weight loss drugs that they are
compounding at way reduced prices. And we'll

471
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.199
get to that in a little while
if you have any questions Denverregen dot com.

472
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:29.519
We're also going to talk about unemployment. By the way, unemployment,

473
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:40.400
we're told now people are put on
integrity holds. Integrity holds not just select

474
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:45.760
people but everyone, which means you
automatically have to wait longer than you would.

475
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.760
We're trying to find out more information
on that. So if you know

476
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.760
anything about it, give us a
call. Meanwhile, we'll talk to This

477
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.679
happened by the way to Melissa,
and we're trying to get an answer.

478
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.800
But I think she's also talked about
social security. Melissa, do you also

479
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:08.800
have a social security question or issue? No, I think somebody took myself

480
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:14.960
security number in Oh I get it. No, No they didn't. I

481
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.239
think you're just hearing. You're just
as you heard from that other caller.

482
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:24.760
I think what's happening is that really
what's going on is what we thought,

483
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:32.320
and that is people are all all
people are on this, not just you.

484
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:37.519
It's kind of happening to everyone.
So it's a pain and it's going

485
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.880
to be inconvenient. But if you
keep listening to the show, we will

486
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.679
talk about that when we get somebody
from unemployment on to talk about it.

487
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:52.320
Three oh three seven one three eight, two five five Lorraine, what's going

488
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.239
on with you? After? Lorraine
will have some open lines as well,

489
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.320
and you can also call three oh
three Martino twenty four to seven, three

490
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.840
oh three, six two seven eight
four sixty six High Lorraine, What's going

491
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:09.960
on? Tom December fifteenth, twenty
twenty one. The roof blew off my

492
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:15.719
commercial building. Wow, I'm a
state pouk. Wait wait when did this

493
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:22.199
Happencember fifteenth of twenty twenty one,
oh, twenty twenty one? Okay,

494
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:28.800
yeah, I'm the state farm adjuster. First he was arguing with my roofing

495
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:32.360
company over what type of roof?
Well, what kind was it? By

496
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:39.320
the way, it was a torchdown
and they wanted to put a hot mod.

497
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:43.280
Bit. Now, when you say
a torchdown, was this a flat

498
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:49.639
roof or just a light light pitch? What was it? Very little pitch?

499
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:57.639
Mostly flat? Okay, the tubble
was torchdown. Materials wouldn't be available

500
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.199
till March. They wanted to put
a mode which is three thousand dollars cheaper.

501
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.320
The adjuster dickered with them for several
weeks. Now, who is it

502
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.840
that wanted to who is it that
wanted to put the different kind of roof

503
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:15.400
on? My roofing company? Turned
on why? Because why you get a

504
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:22.320
roof on? Oh? Because the
other one wasn't available wasn't available for four

505
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:28.400
more months. So he argued with
him for quite a while. And the

506
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:36.000
kind that you opted for was was
what kind? Was three thousand dollars cheaper?

507
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:38.639
Okay, got it. I was
okay with that, get a roof

508
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:44.119
on, but the adjuster kept arguing, and he was out with COVID for

509
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.559
two weeks, and he played a
week at Ketchup by What was the original

510
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.400
roof? By the way, what
kind was it? The kind that is

511
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:57.360
on delay? Yes, the original
was the kind on delay? Got it,

512
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.199
and the adjuster said, we had
to put like kind. Oh we

513
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:06.320
couldn't get this. Well, they
never complain usually about like kind or cheaper

514
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.880
for goodness sakes, Oh this one
did. Huh. And he was out

515
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.280
with COVID for two weeks. Then
he played a week of Ketchup. I

516
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.400
didn't get a written estimate for forty
days. The ruffers could have put a

517
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.159
roof on in two weeks. We
were waiting for, obviously a written approval

518
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.880
from the interns adjuster. By the
time forty days comes and he gets around

519
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:35.079
to doing giving me a written estimate
after he gets over his COVID and the

520
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:40.119
roofers couldn't come till February twelfth day
they started, we got an unexpected snowstorm.

521
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:45.079
Hold on, so you're telling me
the adjuster. The adjuster turned down

522
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:52.960
the roof until he could do but
then he eventually approved it. Eventually approved

523
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.320
it after he got back from having
COVID and playing ketchup for three weeks.

524
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.400
It took forty days to get an
estimate. By that time, the roofers

525
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.239
couldn't do it for another couple of
weeks. By the time they started,

526
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.400
we got a snowstorm and interior damage. Yeah, you're not gonna know You're

527
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.679
I know where you're going. You're
not going to get anyone. You're not

528
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:21.079
going to blame the adjuster for that, Hi, because you're not. He

529
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.360
was first. I'll tell you.
Okay, you asked why, I'll tell

530
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:29.559
you because under your policy, under
your contract, you're obligated to mitigate your

531
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.559
damages and protect your roof, no
matter what it cost. You're obligated to

532
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.119
protect it to prevent further damage.
The second thing is there's no control over

533
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.239
a guy getting COVID. The third
thing is there's no control over your roof

534
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.440
for delaying. So it wasn't all
your insurance company's fault either. So how

535
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:53.079
do you assign blame? Okay,
Well, number one, the roofers did

536
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.280
come and try to tarpet Tom.
This is a fifty by one hundred foot

537
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:04.280
bill. Okay, But the short
Call an attorney and they'll tell you.

538
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.360
They'll tell you you're not gonna get
anywhere. You have to put in a

539
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:14.800
second claim and pay your deductible,
but you will be covered by your insurance.

540
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.599
What trouble is? Okay, they
did I did want me to do

541
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.639
a second claim. They said they'd
do, they would put it on the

542
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:28.000
original claim. But they've low balled
every general contractor estimate I've submitted. Well,

543
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.920
that's a whole separate issue. You're
dealing with a company. You shouldn't

544
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.960
even be dealing with him. You
should call a public adjuster and get and

545
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.639
get this damn thing done the right
way. A public adjuster will kick their

546
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:45.599
ass. I call multiple public adjusters. One talked to Big Talk. Big

547
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.280
Talk jerked me around for six weeks. He was supposed to show up with

548
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.000
his crew one day, didn't come. I called him. He said,

549
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.000
oh, I'm on an inspection and
call her a spree. Well, then

550
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.360
guess what you called the wrong one? Who did you call? Did you

551
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.400
call? I hope it wasn't someone
in my on my list. I don't

552
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.639
know he's on your list. It
was company? Okay, So what happened?

553
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.480
What's the bottom line. Where where
are we right now? And now

554
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.159
we're twenty eight months out? My
building shuttered? They keep lowballing every general

555
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.000
contractor estimate. I sin, okay, you still need a public adjuster.

556
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:29.119
You still need a public adjuster.
I'm hoping you didn't lose any rights.

557
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:34.000
You're twenty eight months past the damage. You never well, no, you

558
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:39.719
filed a claim though you only have
You only have three years until it's closed

559
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.440
out completely. You need to call. Listen. I want you to try.

560
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:53.480
I want you to try Paragon Services. They have public adjuster. YEP,

561
00:43:53.519 --> 00:44:01.360
a public adjuster. Paragon Services,
My buddy, Matt Stanford. You

562
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.639
tell him that I told you to
call. What's that? I want you

563
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:07.360
to listen. I'm going to try
to get that number for you right now.

564
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:15.719
I want you to tell him that
I told you to call, and

565
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.960
I want to see what he can
do. I'm not promising he can drop

566
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:25.719
everything, but you need to protect
yourself. You're just getting jerked around right

567
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:31.199
now. That's what's happening. You're
getting totally jerked around. Let me see

568
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:37.840
the number is damn it? Okay? Here it is seven to one nine

569
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:45.360
seven two six zero zero two zero. What was his name? Again,

570
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.440
Matt, Matt, just say I'm
Matt Stanford, but call just call him

571
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:57.599
and see what he says. How
tell me the dollar difference? Do you

572
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.199
know you can sue them for bad
faith and win and get a tourney.

573
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:05.760
You can get attorney's fees even if
they turned down a legitimate claim without a

574
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.679
good reason. Did you know that
I've called a handful of lawyers. They

575
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:14.559
all say this is not their type
of case. Well that's because you didn't

576
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.639
call a did you. Did you
know there are attorneys that handle nothing but

577
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:25.039
nothing but bad faith. But first
they want you to get they want you

578
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:29.760
to go through the process. So
so Lorange, just listen. First,

579
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.599
you get a public adjuster to determine
what you need and if it's reasonable,

580
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.960
then you get a contractor to bid
it. And if your insurance company turns

581
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.800
it down, you have a bad
faith claim and most of the time you

582
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.719
will win and you will get a
lot of damages. Now you want to

583
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.280
know a law firm, I already
told you. But first you go through

584
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.880
Paragon, then Black or Daily Black. I believe it's called the Black Daily.

585
00:45:53.000 --> 00:46:00.320
I think it's Daily Da l Y
Black. And they are are attorneys

586
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:08.719
that do bad faith. Yep,
it's daily and black daily and black da

587
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:15.639
l y and black the color black
daily and black and those suckers, those

588
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:23.280
suckers, here's the number for them. Seven to zero nine two five zero

589
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:32.280
seven eighty five. Okay, let
me know what happens, because I think

590
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.239
I think you have a good case. Three all three, seven to one

591
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.800
three talk seven one three eight two
five to five. You know, Frank

592
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.400
Duran, the real estate man,
will do an evaluation of your home what

593
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.400
they call a market analysis, to
see what it will sell. Where you

594
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:50.000
might think, wait, I'll just
list it with a guy because he said

595
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.079
it's worth this much. No,
don't. Frank Duran will never lie to

596
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.400
you. He's accurate. He's one
of the best, most prolific real estate

597
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.000
brokers in all of Colorado. He
will go there and he will examine your

598
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.679
home and no obligation whatsoever ever to
list. He'll tell you what it will

599
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.639
sell for, in my opinion,
in almost a certainty three oh three nine

600
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:17.880
two zero sixteen twenty two. Frank
durand the real estate man dot com go

601
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with a sure thing Denver's best roofer
Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay

602
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a cent until you're content. Time
for an insurance checkup free no obligation comparison

603
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:36.519
call Compass Insurance paying too much your
coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out

604
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.119
now three oh three seven to seven
one help. You'll think you're his only

605
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:44.000
customer when you choose Frank durand the
real estate man dot com to list your

606
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:53.119
home with Remax Alliance three oh three
nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

607
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:59.599
Tom Martine here three O three seven
one three talk three O three seven one

608
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three eight two five five. Lines
are open. You can call right now

609
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:05.639
with any problem, question or complain, and you can always call three H

610
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:09.159
three Martino three O three six two
seven eight four sixty six. Now,

611
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:15.440
Deputy Chopper, you said Chopper's there, right, I assume, And uh

612
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:20.719
you said that the solar company or
the solar people might be calling. Now

613
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.599
tell me what's going on there.
Uh, we're waiting to for them to

614
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:29.000
call in. They haven't called in
like they said. But uh, we

615
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.159
were going to talk about they We
thought we could go or tell them how

616
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:38.760
to go against gold Leaf finance.
In other words, the finance company can't

617
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:45.639
collect on something that in a solar
business that is not being done right that?

618
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:50.679
And this is the worst solar company
I've ever heard of, this first

619
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.519
solar whatever one solar, one solo. And not only is one solar,

620
00:48:54.719 --> 00:49:04.119
does one solar suck? But also
I don't like the idea that that even

621
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:09.440
the other place, Vallot Valor Solar
sucks too because they sold it. So

622
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:15.199
you have two sucky companies. And
Valor wouldn't put any pressure on one solar.

623
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:22.400
No, they made their money and
they moved on. And so this

624
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.639
is a fifty four thousand dollars Is
this the one? I mean? The

625
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:32.320
system is inoperative, right, Yes, it's a good leap that financed it.

626
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:40.519
Yes, was this first? Okay
is the name of the consumer,

627
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:45.440
Beth? No, it's Alex and
Coy and they should be calling in any

628
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.719
guess what? Guess what? This
is the second complaint that we have,

629
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.280
because I just found another one I
was talking about and okay, yeah,

630
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:00.119
yeah, so this, okay,
this is Sleeves Brigade time. I didn't

631
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:05.159
realize this. Did you know?
We had a second one? The same

632
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:10.199
thing happened, totally inoperative. I'm
not aware of that. They did give

633
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:15.599
them a battery, which they said
cost sixty thousand, but it only costs

634
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.159
ten. But that's not enough to
run their system. You know, Valor

635
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:24.760
sucks. In fact, did you
ask? Wait? So we have literally

636
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:30.960
three problems with Valor right now,
three of them and one Solar. Three

637
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:36.400
problems with the same thing, three
of them. That's you know, that

638
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:42.159
tells me something. So I definitely
have to put them on the seas brigade.

639
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.239
They're not coming through. They're not
coming through at all. Valor and

640
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.960
One, you mean both of them, they both suck. They're good partners

641
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.480
and in fact, screw these people. I want people to let Valor know

642
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:59.119
that they suck. I just realized, what are you kidding me? What

643
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.920
do they call Valor roofing, Valor
roof and Solar here? People, I

644
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.159
want you to call them and let
just be kind. But here's what I

645
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.000
want you to say. You know, we just found out from Tom Martine

646
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:15.800
that just on his show alone,
there are three complaints about inoperative solar systems

647
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:20.960
because you suck. But say it
in a nice way, Tom. I

648
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.880
just got a message from Lloyd.
They had the wrong number. They're going

649
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.880
to try to get in as soon
as they can. Here's the number for

650
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:35.880
Valor remember Valor and one solar,
Valor and one Solar they suck. Valor

651
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:45.679
sucks three oh three seven seven zero
seven six six three. Valor sucks three

652
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:52.039
oh three seven seven zero seven six
sixty three. Valor sucks, and Solar

653
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:58.199
one or one solar. Here's the
problem. They sell systems and they can't

654
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.920
freaking get them to operate. I'm
gonna go over these problems. Okay,

655
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:06.320
I'm really pissed. Okay, I
didn't realize this. So Beth and her

656
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.920
husband listen to this one. This
goes way back. Beth and her husband

657
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:17.000
signed up for solar with Valor Roofing
fifty four thousand dollars. Then they had

658
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:22.360
a tax credit coming off of that. They don't have the inqueme to qualify

659
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:29.079
for the credit. The system was
installed by one Solar and it's being financed

660
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.559
through good Leap. Is that the
same one that financed this other one?

661
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:37.400
Chopper? Yes, that's correct,
but says they never signed the purchase financing

662
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:43.039
your agreement. She has pissed at
the entire process. Plus the system is

663
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:50.280
inoperative. Think about that inoperative,
Tom, the caller's coming in now,

664
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:55.320
and the next one, Jack,
Valor Roofing and Solar sold him a one

665
00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:04.199
solar system that sucks. That's another
one. That's Jack he called in a

666
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:08.760
while ago and that was given to
Smarty Panch. That was a while ago.

667
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:14.519
They suck. I'm getting them on
the sleeves, brigade, man,

668
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.280
this pisses me off. I just
put this all together. And then the

669
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:25.599
next one is Lly and alex Or. Alexis they contracted in October twenty twenty

670
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:35.480
two. Their system is not working
properly. Why because of Valor and one

671
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.480
Solar. So I want you to
let Valor know that we know about him.

672
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:42.599
Listen when I tell you this,
and I mean this sincerely. I

673
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.840
really don't want you to be vulgar
or vile. I don't mind even say

674
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:47.719
they suck or we heard you suck, or we heard that you don't come

675
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.920
through and you're a terrible company.
And if you don't like it, Martino

676
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.480
would love to have you on the
air to give your side of the story,

677
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:58.320
which you refuse to do. And
you can call him at three zero

678
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.719
three Martino, just telling that three
oh three Martino, Okay, their number

679
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:07.480
at Valor three O three seven seven
zero seven sixty sixty three. Damn it.

680
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:12.079
I hate this. I hate when
people get ripped off, and they

681
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.559
do get ripped off by these people, So stay tuned for this. I'm

682
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.079
going to talk to these consumers who
were ripped off. Dan McKenzie, by

683
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:24.000
the way, an estate planning attorney. And everyone needs a will, You

684
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:28.440
may need a trust if you want
to pass on your business, you want

685
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:30.480
to pass on your assets, even
your fine arts, whatever you have.

686
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:35.320
Dan McKenzie can come up with a
way for you to do it in a

687
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:40.719
very simple way. Dan McKenzie McKenzie
Law, eight three three co Plans eight

688
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:54.360
three three co Plans the website co
plans dot co. Go with a sure

689
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:59.920
thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot
com. You don't pay a cent until

690
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:06.519
you're contenth wait time for an insurance
check up free, no obligation. In

691
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:10.920
comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too
much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies

692
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.440
find out now three all three seven
seven to one help. You'll think you're

693
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.360
his only customer when you choose Frank
durand the real estate Man dot com to

694
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:28.039
list your home with Remax Alliance three
all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

695
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:35.960
Hi Tom Martino here three oh three
seven one three talks seven one three

696
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:39.840
eight two five five All right,
So here we are helping you solve problems,

697
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:43.320
answer questions, take complaints, make
your life a little easier. And

698
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.079
I want you to remember this.
Valor roof and Solar sucks three all three

699
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.800
seven seven zero seven sixty sixty three
they suck. We have three complaints.

700
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:54.880
Now you might think tom three complaints, Hell, three complaints aren't a lot

701
00:55:54.880 --> 00:56:00.159
of complaints. Now remember this,
I use the old road kill Do you

702
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.559
know what I mean by that?
By the way, do you know what

703
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:08.320
roadkill theory is? I don't.
Road kill theory is this that if you

704
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:16.159
see particular road kill of a species
more than other species, what does it

705
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.360
tell you? It tells you,
Joel? What do you think it tells

706
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.800
you, doctor, Joel? Come
on, if you see more of skunk's

707
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:29.079
killed than rabbits, or you see
more rabbits killed than raccoons, or more

708
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:34.559
raccoons a particular year, it's the
road kill theory. I would say this

709
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:39.400
because there's just more of those.
That's exactly right that they actually came up

710
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:45.559
with this years ago. Well,
it's because not all species go on the

711
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.000
roads. But if they go on
the road, if there's enough of them

712
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.920
to go on the roads and get
killed. Well with solar the fact that

713
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.960
my show, because I'm not going
to brag and say, well, I've

714
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.159
been here forty five years and everybody
knows me, because they don't. And

715
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:06.079
with all the outlets out there,
if my little old show gets three complaints

716
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.119
about this company, three, that's
a lot, you know what I'm saying.

717
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:14.480
And now, obviously people do think
about complaining to me, so I'll

718
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.119
tend to get maybe more than someone
else, but still think about that.

719
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.639
I'm getting three complaints about the same
company. It's not that big of a

720
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:27.760
company, so there's got to be
a problem. The roadkill theory. Has

721
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:30.320
anyone heard about, by the way, YouTube morals? Have you heard of

722
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:34.280
the YouTube? Not the YouTube kill
theory? Now, have you heard of

723
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:40.559
the roadkill theory? Fines? Really
have you ever heard that before? Now

724
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:52.159
let's talk to Lloy who was a
victim of Valor. They did such a

725
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:58.880
stupid thing, Valor and one solar. Listen to this one. I find

726
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:05.400
this fascinating. They put in a
solar system. Now, the solar system

727
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:13.480
itself isn't shoddy, but they did
not do their due diligence. They actually

728
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:23.159
put the solar system in an area
of Excel territory that cannot accept solar and

729
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:34.840
net metering and certain feeds because of
old infrastructure. To make a long story

730
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:40.039
short, for that solar system to
work in that area, Excel would have

731
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:45.239
to build a new substation, oh
about twenty million dollars or so. Well,

732
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:52.039
you see, they wouldn't do that. So you know, lloy and

733
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:58.360
Alexis has this power the solar system
that they can't hook up to the grid,

734
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:05.000
and so Valor would have found that
out, or one Solar would have

735
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:09.440
found that out. Had they done
it the right way, they would have

736
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:15.280
found that out, and therefore they
wouldn't have sold them the system. But

737
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:21.960
now the only way they can use
the system is if they're off grid with

738
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:30.519
a battery backup off grid. They
can go on grid during certain times,

739
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:34.639
but they have to have their system, their solar system, disconnected, So

740
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:38.960
they'd have to come up with some
crazy hybrid system that is disconnected from the

741
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:45.440
grid part of the time where they
use batteries and then connected to the grid

742
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:51.320
other times. It's just too crazy. So in order to make the system

743
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:55.920
work, their only option would be
completely off grid or this battery backup system

744
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:05.360
or just get it removed. So, Lloyd, what happened? Did they

745
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:10.639
finally after we talked to them,
did anything change? No? Yet,

746
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:17.880
we are waiting for an answer for
a solution. So your solar system is

747
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:28.239
not functioning right now? No,
never they installed but never working? And

748
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.079
did I explain it properly? How
much? First of all, how much

749
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:39.119
did this system cost you? Four
thousand dollars? Yeah, we are paying

750
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:45.320
through. We are way paying to
the bank since last year for fifty four

751
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:51.400
thousand dollars that they paid to battle. The bank paid to battle without even

752
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:57.440
telling us anything. And who's the
bank? Because because Mark was really adamant

753
01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:02.280
about this, this finance situation,
Chopper, what did I might be able

754
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:07.679
to get Mark on the line,
but he was really adamant about them not

755
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:13.519
being able to charge due to this. You remember that, Yes, I

756
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:17.599
do. Tom. Let me just
call Mark right now and see. Uh,

757
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.960
I know he's here somewhere. Let
me just call him and see.

758
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.599
I'll get him on the line.
What's that, Oh, he knows enough

759
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:28.440
not to cuss. Hold on,
let me just bring him up here.

760
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:39.239
I'll get him on and he was
he said, this is the option we

761
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:45.360
should explore. Mark, Mark,
you're on the air, by the way.

762
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.559
You we got this solar guy on
this the one the people that were

763
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:55.000
ripped off by Valor and and he
said, they've been paying on this loan

764
01:01:55.039 --> 01:02:00.719
for a year now. You were
adamant about this, this option going after

765
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.480
the lender. What did you have
in mind? I know what you're talking

766
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:07.920
about, so kind of follow me
down the road. We had Brooke in

767
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:13.280
Geez, I don't know about two
or three months ago. You were out

768
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:15.800
and I got to spend a lot
of time with her and talking solar on

769
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.320
the air, and one of the
things she brought up, and I think

770
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:23.440
we should get her back on is
this those companies lend money out to solar

771
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:28.639
have an agreement with the companies that
are installing them or selling them. I'm

772
01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:32.440
not sure, but if it is
not a working solar system, the agreement

773
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.840
gets sent back. Funding then shifts
to the company, not the consumer.

774
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:44.159
And the company those people went through
was one of the companies that Brooke said

775
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:46.920
would definitely do that. So if
you get her on, I think we're

776
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:50.639
going to okay out all right,
It's going to be the best option.

777
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:58.480
Now, who financed you? Loyokie
good leap, that's the one they always

778
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.599
use. That's right, So you've
been paying on it the whole time.

779
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:06.920
Okay, we're going to contact them. Mark. Thanks and by the way,

780
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:12.159
okay, appreciate it. So Mark
is working on on our other businesses

781
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:20.400
right now. So listen, let's
do this. Let's let's talk to Red

782
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:27.199
Rocks. Let's call up our friend
Brooke Kachina and Looy hang on. I

783
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.119
want to get I want to get
them on to talk about how we approach

784
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:37.199
the finance company to put pressure on
this other company. They should not have

785
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:42.039
done this and you should not be
paying I don't know how much you're paying,

786
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.559
but you shouldn't be paying for an
in op system. And again,

787
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:51.960
people, I can't say this enough. Valor roof and Solar sucks. Do

788
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.679
you hear what these people are going
through? Valor is at three oh three

789
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:01.000
seven seven zerold seven six sixty three. It's a shame. These poor people

790
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:06.519
have been paying for a year on
something that doesn't work and they haven't come

791
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:15.519
up with a freaking solution. Oh. I'm gonna be honest here. Sometimes

792
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:19.559
I want to swear on this show
and say, w TF you know,

793
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:28.719
or, as they say on the
on the Michael Brown Show, this is

794
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:41.960
foxtrot uniform, Charlie Keilo uniform,
Papa. All Right, I didn't put

795
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:44.079
the D on the other one.
Nevermind, I'll come up with it.

796
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:46.280
I'm saying it out of my head
here, okay. Three all three seven

797
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.840
to one three talk so we have
more coming up. Stay tuned. We're

798
01:04:49.880 --> 01:05:00.159
gonna get Red Rocks on Brooke to
talk about this. I'm Tom Martine.

799
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:05.599
Go with a sure thing Denver's best
rufer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't

800
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:13.440
pay a cent until you're content.
Time for an insurance check up free,

801
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:17.159
no obligation. In comparison, call
Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at

802
01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:21.320
dozens of insurance companies find out now
three all three seven seven to one help.

803
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:26.039
You'll think you're his only customer when
you choose Frank durand the real estate

804
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:30.480
Man dot com to list your home
with Remax Alliance three all three nine two

805
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:42.039
zero sixteen twenty two Know what does
Hi? Tom Martino, You're a troubleshooter

806
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:47.800
three all three seven one three talks
seven one three eight two five five Brook

807
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:55.480
is with Red Rocks Roof and Solar. They do a great job. Red

808
01:05:55.599 --> 01:06:01.360
Rocks rs dot com. Heybrook,
So I looked into my records. I

809
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:09.880
didn't realize I had three problems,
all different ones, but basically incomplete systems

810
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:15.159
from Valor Roof and Solar. Who
works through one Solar And I'm saying this,

811
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:20.039
not you, They suck And you
know Mark was saying Tom, I

812
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:26.440
talked to Brooke about this and there
might be some hope for Loy. Loy

813
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:30.679
and Alexis bought this system fifty four
thousand. They've been making payments on it

814
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.599
for a year and they don't have
a system they can operate. I don't

815
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:38.679
know if you're familiar with the system
with the problem, but it was built

816
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.760
in an area of Excel that can't
accept solar. Now I've never heard that

817
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:47.079
before, by the way, but
apparently for them to take more solar,

818
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:50.239
they would have to build a new
substation. Have you ever heard of something

819
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:56.239
like that, Brook, It's very
rare. Usually it's just a transformer that

820
01:06:56.280 --> 01:07:00.559
needs to get upgraded in the neighborhood
or wire from the transformer to the house.

821
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:03.519
So the fact that a substation needs
to be upgraded is I've never heard

822
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:11.000
of it either. Anyway, what
we're told is Valor or One Solar should

823
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.719
have found this out when they did
their due diligence. Is that something you

824
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:20.400
would know about if they if they
had an inadequate transformer or substation. Yeah,

825
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:27.119
one Solar at the EPC, So
it's their responsibility and throughout Excels permitting

826
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:32.119
process. That's part two of that
permitting process is whether or not the system

827
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:36.159
is going to be accepted. So
the only issue now is they need sixty

828
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:40.679
thousand dollars worth of batteries and I
don't know how that works, but somehow

829
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:45.639
they'd have to have some switch on
switch off of the solar because they can't

830
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:47.280
take the net metering. So I
don't know how that works, but they'd

831
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.559
have to turn it off during certain
parts of the day then turn it on.

832
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:57.079
Does that make sense to you?
So with the sixty thousand dollars worth

833
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.559
of batteries, they'd essentially be off
grid, so they would have a disconnect

834
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:09.039
that would not allow their house to
continue to push power out to Excel or

835
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:12.440
to take power from Excel. There's
a disconnect that would exist between the main

836
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:17.520
channel and the meter. Would they
ever be able to take excel. They

837
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:19.920
can go back on the grid if
they want to, but then they would

838
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:23.760
have to shut off their solar system. Because that's what I met, that's

839
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:28.319
what they had they were gonna they
proposed some stupid system where they would turn

840
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:31.800
off and turn on and turn off
and turn It's ridiculous. The bottom line

841
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:39.159
is this. They are financed through
good Leap and they've been paying on it

842
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:45.880
for a year. So is their
recourse going through good Leap? I am

843
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:49.920
unsure they can file a customer complaint
with them, but from what I understand,

844
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:56.479
loy and Alexis have called Good Leap
and file complaints with them for the

845
01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:00.760
last year and there's been no avail
for them either. Because Mark said that

846
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:10.199
you were mentioning that some finance companies
will take recourse. Yeah, So for

847
01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:15.520
instance, if the system isn't turned
on within a certain timeframe, then that

848
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.479
company can get in trouble by the
finance company and then that can do what

849
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:26.079
called a clawback. So if it's
been over six months since the if you

850
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:28.479
can hold on, Brook, I'm
running out of time. Hold on,

851
01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:33.119
I want to bring you back to
just recap this to make sure go with

852
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859
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:26.079
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two thousand. That's nine zero four
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872
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:16.399
up with Loy in the solar system. Then I want to follow up with

873
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:20.760
Brook our experts. So bottom line, Loy can't use their solar he can't

874
01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:27.239
use the solar system. Loy and
Alexis and Brooke said there there there could

875
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:31.359
be a recourse with Leap. But
Loyd, did you already call good Leap

876
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:36.680
where it was financed and told did
you tell them the system is in operational?

877
01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:45.439
Yes? I did. I received
a call in April last year telling

878
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:55.600
me that my law on start in
mainspire. I told them that the system

879
01:11:55.760 --> 01:12:02.760
is not working and the answer was
they know their business, none of their

880
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.640
business. So they've just been saying
they've been accepting money from you knowing the

881
01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:13.359
system isn't working. Yeah, yeah, easy. So yeah, but he's

882
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:18.880
not working and how much how much
have you been paying a month? One

883
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:26.319
sixty three? So Brooke, Brooke, So really there is no protection as

884
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:30.880
we thought then through financing. Yeah, so they can call. By the

885
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:34.039
way, brook is our expert,
I should mention with red Rocks, roof

886
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:39.680
and Soler go ahead. Yeah.
So this is a unique case in that

887
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:45.199
the utility company stated that PTO will
never be allowed or permitted. So if

888
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:50.199
lay and Alexis called them back again
with myself or somebody that could explain the

889
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:55.880
situation, then there would be greater
recourse. But as of right now,

890
01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:59.960
it's very common for systems to get
installed in it to take longer than six

891
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:02.960
months to get activated. Even though
the system can be activated, in this

892
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:08.840
case, the system cannot ever be
activated unless the substation is upgraded, which

893
01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:15.600
will take years to do. So
okay, so I would like to I

894
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:19.840
would like to have you help them
out. We can have Kachina off the

895
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:26.760
air kind of make that connection and
basically see what we can do for them.

896
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:32.239
This is a terrible situation. Have
you heard of complaints about this about

897
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:38.960
this company before? By the way, yes, So both one Solar and

898
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:42.560
Valor are the reasons why I open
up my own company based on how they

899
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:46.680
treated customers and their lack of integrity
and ability to install appropriately according to code.

900
01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:53.680
That's well said. Thank you.
That's Brooke, red Rocks roof Andsolar,

901
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902
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:01.640
Thank you Brook for being here.
Lloyd. We're gonna follow this up.

903
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:06.880
Lloyd. We're gonna follow this up
at another time, and we're going to

904
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:13.520
get you Kachina. Let's get Lloy
and alexis in touch with Brooke off the

905
01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:17.520
air, and then they call good
Leap and then I believe good Leap.

906
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.760
She can talk to good Leap and
explain what's going on, and maybe if

907
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:25.439
they claw back the money, Valor
might have something to say about it.

908
01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:30.319
But man, this cannot be good. And this is going on the Sleeves

909
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Brigade as Sleeesbrigade dot com because it
sucks. Now in other consumer news,

910
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:49.000
this is really pretty telling. Tesla
is laying off ten percent of the entire

911
01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:59.279
global workforce. And here's what they
say, basically that there's competition finally,

912
01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:06.399
and the allure and the shininess of
Tesla is kind of wearing off and a

913
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:13.000
lot of the production has been slowed
down, so really they're having a setback.

914
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:17.239
Now. Elon must says it's the
calm before the storm, and that

915
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:25.520
it's a lull, a planned lull
before their growth. But I think he's

916
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:30.720
doing that to try to keep his
stock from tanking. But they could be

917
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:40.840
laying off another ten percent according to
some insiders. And I don't mean like

918
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:46.199
inside stock rumors, I just mean
of the industry, of the ev industry.

919
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:51.239
So if that happens, that's going
to be a ton of people,

920
01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:57.880
because you know, right now thousands
I had the exact number. I don't

921
01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.079
have it right now, but thousands
of people were laid off. Oh yeah,

922
01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:10.319
ten percent, Okay, more than
fourteen thousand people. But so they

923
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:16.800
say there could be another fourteen or
twenty thousand in the near future. Now,

924
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:23.760
what's interesting is they are kind of
penalized by their own success because what

925
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:29.640
happens is tax credits are dolled out
based on the first so many millions of

926
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:34.479
cars produced, not millions of cars
produced in the country, but per company,

927
01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:40.800
So they were they're going to run
out of tax credits before other companies

928
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:44.840
run out of tax credits. It's
really sad the way that's happening. You're

929
01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:51.960
a victim of success. But they
say that the EV industry in general is

930
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:57.640
growing, which is good news if
you like electric cars. There are some

931
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:03.520
that believe it's never ever going to
take a never take a hold completely because

932
01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:08.640
of the grid, and that the
grid won't be able to take it.

933
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:13.840
I'd like to know what you think
about that. I was thinking my next

934
01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:17.560
car might be electric, but I'm
not sure right now. I'm really not

935
01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:24.319
sure. There's, first of all, shortage of battery materials to make batteries,

936
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:31.960
and there's a problem with grids in
some states like California are saying they're

937
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:36.279
gonna make it so unless you have
an EV you can't even get into the

938
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:41.880
state that's gonna be Well, that's
not surprising for California. I mean,

939
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:47.560
those people are crazy. But it's
amazing to me that we're moving headlong into

940
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:54.840
the EV industry when we haven't figured
out the infrastructure for charging and keeping them

941
01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:59.520
charged, and we haven't figured out
what we're going to do about making batteries

942
01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:05.399
or better batteries. And this is
all happening because of, of course,

943
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:13.119
our move toward more green, sustainable
energy. Three oh three seven one three

944
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:17.479
talk three oh three seven one three
eight two five five. Now we're going

945
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:25.359
to talk about other stuff like Denver
Region, Denver Regenerative Medicine, Denver regen

946
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:32.960
dot com. A lot of people
are going on compounded semiglutide or churzepetide in

947
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:42.319
order to lose weight. It was
originally introduced as a diabetes drug. Now

948
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.640
what does it do? Somebody asks
by text and you can text me at

949
01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:49.800
five seven seven three nine. Somebody
asked, what the heck does it do

950
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.279
to your blood sugar? They said, tom, if if we're going on

951
01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:57.000
a diet and we didn't have a
problem with blood sugar, can we get

952
01:18:57.159 --> 01:19:00.279
low blood sugar from this? And
that's that's really a good question. That's

953
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:02.960
really a good question. So what
does it do to their blood sugar?

954
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:09.720
So by by decreasing your appetite,
what it does for diabetics is it decreases

955
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:12.960
their consumption and food in general,
which des well. Also, it decreases

956
01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:17.680
its move of food through the digestive
system, which slows the absorption of glucose

957
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:24.319
right, so evens out glucose,
right. But it doesn't actually lower blood

958
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:28.760
sugar. It it does lower blood
sugar in the fact that people are consuming

959
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:32.600
less all of sugar altogether. Okay, that's true, and it also evens

960
01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:36.119
it out. So is there I
guess what we're asking, is there a

961
01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:41.039
danger of going low sugar. No, all that's happening is you're just eat

962
01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:45.159
You're just consuming less calories. But
they say, now, and I want

963
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:49.600
to talk about this in a little
while, that it's having other plus benefits.

964
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:54.199
Do you know that some people claim
it's helping them to stop smoking.

965
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:59.319
Well, it does affect something with
the brain. It affects the satiation centers

966
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.000
and the addiction center. If there
is such a thing as something so compulsive

967
01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:05.680
compulsive behavior can also be effect Now
we'll talk about that. I don't I

968
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:08.880
don't want to give away too much
of that. But Bill, you you

969
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:11.680
want you have a question about fluorescent
light bulbs, Go ahead. I don't

970
01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:16.039
even know if they make fluorescent.
I meant the compact fluorescent. They don't

971
01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:19.600
make anymore. If you're talking about
fluorescent tubes, they still make those,

972
01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:21.840
but they're on the way out.
Go ahead, Bill, what's your question?

973
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:26.079
Well, that's the question I have, is what's going to happen with

974
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:29.399
the whole walls are going to have
to do a change over. Well yeah,

975
01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:31.319
but that's not a big deal because
they're making two kinds of bulbs now,

976
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:36.560
they're making an addition to fluorescent,
two replacements. I've seen that they

977
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:42.159
have the LEDs that can go in
just the way it is, and the

978
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:45.920
starters, those little transformers are starters, won't won't hurt them. Then they

979
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.359
had the other kind and the truly
the best kind, or the kind where

980
01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:54.000
you take the transformer out and the
starters you don't need them at all.

981
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:58.680
And what you do is you wire
past them and put the new tubes in,

982
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:01.319
or if you're not, if you
don't want to mess with rewiring,

983
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:08.319
you simply put up a new fixture. Yeah okay, Well my problem is

984
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:12.640
with fifteen foot up in the air
with it. Stuff is fifteen foot for

985
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:16.840
fluorescence? Well, no, from
the floor to the ceiling for fluorescence or

986
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:23.960
for regular My lights are in the
ceiling. But I got what kind of

987
01:21:24.119 --> 01:21:29.119
lights? Bill? A fluorescent?
Regular? Fluorescent? What in your kitchen

988
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:32.680
or where in your regular house?
It's a family room, Okay, you

989
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:38.359
have fluorescent lights in your family room? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I

990
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:41.359
just had them put in when we
built it. So that's kind of weird.

991
01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:45.920
I mean, I've never seen fluorescent
lights in a house except maybe in

992
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:49.840
a kitchen or something. Well,
I got fluorescent in the in the family

993
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:54.000
room, Like, do you have
a lot of them? Is it really

994
01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:58.520
bright? Yeah, it is really
bright. And but you know I got

995
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.800
fluorescinal I got them down stairs,
I got I probably got fifteen lights.

996
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:08.520
Fish, Why did you do that? What's that? Why did you do

997
01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.640
that? I don't know. What
was easy to do? I guess at

998
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:15.119
the time. Well, because this
is the I did this in ninety six.

999
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:18.039
Oh my god, never mind,
Now I understand. Okay, that

1000
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:23.159
was the rage fluorescent lights. No
one puts fluorescent lights in houses anymore.

1001
01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:26.920
But Bill, listen, here's the
bottom line. They can all be converted.

1002
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:30.319
It's not going to be that much. In fact, you'll you'll make

1003
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:32.880
up for it in energy and in
lifespan where you never have to go up

1004
01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:35.920
and change them anymore. Well,
you will, but they last for so

1005
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:40.359
damn long. We have more coming
up. Three oh three seven one three

1006
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:49.119
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five Go with a sure thing Denver's Best

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customer when you choose Frank durand the
real estate Man dot com to list your

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01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:20.119
home with Remax Alliance three all three
nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:28.960
Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter three oh
three seven one three talks seven one three

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01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:31.960
eight two five five. I want
to go to Barry Miller. Now you

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01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:35.840
may have heard that name before.
Barry Miller. I've known him for many,

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01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:41.000
many years. In fact, years
ago, I remember interviewing for Channel

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01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:45.239
four on buying broker. It was
the one of the It was a brand

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01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:47.359
new concept. No one ever even
heard of a buyer broker. I think

1019
01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:50.640
Barry, you were probably one of
the first I've ever interviewed or was around.

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01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:57.039
We didn't you pioneer that area of
real estate? We did it?

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01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:00.640
Happy that it all started right here
in Denver, Metro Colorado. Did you

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01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:06.960
actually start it? Well, there
are two guys before me, one in

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01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:12.239
California one in Virginia. They did
it locally. I went and met both

1024
01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:14.920
of them and they said, oh
no, no, it's too good,

1025
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:19.279
we're not spreading the words. So
yeah, I came back to Denver both

1026
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:23.079
those trips and said, you know
what, we're going to start it and

1027
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:26.319
go nationwide. So yeah, I
did start right here, and I was

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01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:29.640
so I was one of the first
journalists ever to talk about it. I've

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01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:33.640
loved totally. Yeah, totally the
first Wow, I remember do you remember

1030
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:40.560
the interview way back? Oh?
I remember on East on the oh,

1031
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:44.760
just off of Hampton and Yamy way
back. Oh, okay, that was

1032
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:47.680
my radio show there too, that's
right, and then there too. Yeah.

1033
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:51.640
So now listen, I want to
talk about what you're doing now as

1034
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:57.840
well, because I heard Michael Brown
doing one of your commercials about vest Era

1035
01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:02.159
Investments, and I'm going to tell
you my first impression. I said,

1036
01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:05.199
well, this is a bunch of
bees. What are you talking about doubling

1037
01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:09.840
my money? Bet? Okay,
come on, man. So I figured

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01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:13.680
I want to delve more into it
than just okay, double your money,

1039
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:15.199
because look at Barry, you know
as well as I do. You've been

1040
01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:17.199
around a long time. And I
do respect you. By the way,

1041
01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:23.800
this is not an ambush. But
you know people, when people promise like

1042
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:26.479
this, you think, what the
hell's going on? So just tell me

1043
01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:31.119
what tell me what the hell's going
on? Total total, right now,

1044
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:34.039
right now. And I want to
make something clear, by the way.

1045
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:36.720
I want to make something clear,
seriously, this is not a commercial.

1046
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:42.079
By the way, this is not
a commercial. I called him just out

1047
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:44.800
of the blue and said, Barry, I need to talk to you about

1048
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:48.039
this because I always talk about investments
and stuff. Okay, I just wanted

1049
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:51.680
to make that disclaimer. Go ahead. Yeah, no, that's the folly.

1050
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:56.159
I mean, yeah, two hours
ago, I did not know we

1051
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:00.800
would be talking. Yeah, you
know, that's that's it. But it

1052
01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:09.920
is based heavily on heavy duty,
thorough I mean bigger than Moody's does research

1053
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:15.399
out of over two hundred and twenty
metro areas in the country, heavy research,

1054
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:18.399
and it takes us two and a
half months of research every October through

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01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:24.119
December. Long story, made sure
we come up with five or six of

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01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:30.520
the absolute best real estate cities.
We call them cities. Okay they're metro

1057
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:36.600
areas, yeah, but metro areas, but cities where the return of appreciation

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01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:42.800
is the highest anywhere. But then
we go and we call them. They're

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01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:47.199
people, but I find the best
fire agent microscopes. We call them and

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01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:50.479
I said, look, you have
one hundred neighborhoods in your city. Find

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01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:57.199
me the best five or ten highest
return, most popular, best rental areas.

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01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:00.439
And we have a couple secrets.
You know, I can't reveal at

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01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:08.000
all, but we keep it in
the price range under the national median price,

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01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:12.279
which is four hundred thousand. Okay, so we are in cities where

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01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:17.359
the median price is under four hundred
thousand. The return every single one of

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01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:21.800
our customers this year, the return
all our new customers. The returns that

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01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:28.279
are projected conservatively are fifty two percent
or more for the first time. So

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01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:31.119
well, that's doubling your money in
two years, Barry. I want to

1069
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:34.399
ask this though. I want to
ask this when you say the returns,

1070
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:40.920
so these are not reachs. These
are individual purchases or they pulled money for

1071
01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:44.159
example, Yeah, thank you dude. Do five people buy a house,

1072
01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:47.119
do twenty people? Do you all
buy the same houses or do you buy

1073
01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:51.279
different ones for different people? And
I don't buy any of them. The

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01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:57.840
consumers. As you said, they
themselves become the owners of the property.

1075
01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:02.920
But we're fully turnkey oversee the management. We pick the managers, we find

1076
01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:09.399
the buyer agents, we find the
neighborhoods the property managers find out, but

1077
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:15.159
we find insurance brokers in that local
area. All all of our hotspots in

1078
01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:17.560
this year happened to be all right
to the Mississippi. Now, I have

1079
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:20.720
a ton of questions, so I
want to put you back on If you

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01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:23.600
have some time, I'm going to
put you back on hold so I can

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01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:27.920
take a break and some calls in
between. But seriously, like all kinds

1082
01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:30.359
of questions, like how it works
and if if it's always one to one,

1083
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:35.039
or are people pulled or a risk
or anything like that. So hang

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01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:40.319
on. And I'm talking to Barry
Miller, who is a real estate broker

1085
01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:45.039
and he pioneered the buyer broker in
the entire country. He also is doing

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01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:47.359
this thing called Vista Investments, and
that's what I want to know about.

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01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:51.720
It's, by the way, it's
not a security so he's he's allowed to

1088
01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:56.640
sell it. It's an exempt or
not even exempt. It's excluded from any

1089
01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:00.640
securities laws. The way he's doing
it, So it's very very interesting.

1090
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:03.079
So hang on. And although I
don't know, I might. You know,

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01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:08.600
that's one thing I want to talk
about because sometimes when you buy something

1092
01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:12.319
and depends on the efforts of others, some people could call out securities,

1093
01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:15.560
but I doubt it. I doubt
it. So I want to talk to

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01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:18.680
Bill. Excuse me, Jack,
Jackie or Jacqueline. Did you say you

1095
01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:23.479
just had a scam call? I
wanted to make sure we alert people what's

1096
01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:28.199
going on with that, Jacqueline.
Yes, Kathleen, it was somebody calling

1097
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:33.119
me saying I know you you check
account is that Wells Fargo, and we

1098
01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:39.920
want to refund you a bunch of
with public service, refund you some money

1099
01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:44.880
and we need your checking. We
need your account information, the routing and

1100
01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:48.600
the account number right correct, he
said. And the agent down at the

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01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:54.239
bank is James Adams at twelve forty
two par Street, et cetera, et

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01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.359
cetera, and gave me the phone
number. So I said, you know,

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01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:01.359
call me back in two hours.
And I went down there and talked

1104
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:06.359
to will Spargo employee and he said, hey, they don't have James Adams

1105
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:12.920
be the prefix of the phone number
was wrong, and he said it's a

1106
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:15.880
scam. Don't give after checking account. Do you have that phone number,

1107
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.279
by the way, sure his phone
number. I don't want to. I

1108
01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:21.720
don't want it right now. I
want you to give it to Kachina off

1109
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:26.479
the air. Okay, okay,
I just want to. I want to

1110
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:29.840
research this, So hold on,
Jack Jacqueline, thank you very much.

1111
01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:32.199
Three oh three seven one three tong
seven one three eight two five five.

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01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:38.920
People listen, don't ever, ever, ever, ever ever buy into the

1113
01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:42.760
refund to your account, the credit
to your account. We made a bad

1114
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:45.680
charge to your account, a fraud
we found on your account, and now

1115
01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:50.960
they want to. The whole idea
is get access to your account never ever,

1116
01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:55.840
ever. A bank will never call
you to get access to your account

1117
01:30:55.880 --> 01:31:01.319
ever. I'm telling you they don't
do it. Three O three seven one

1118
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:05.439
three talks seven one three eight two
five five. Kachina, could you just

1119
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:09.239
read that note for Lyne one and
let me know what's going on with that

1120
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:15.359
one? And then I got more
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01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:41.319
only customer when you choose Frank durand
the real estate Man dot com to list

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01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:45.800
your home with Remax Alliance three oh
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1127
01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:51.000
Hi Tom Archino here. Okay,
so let's go to Villus. Question about

1128
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:56.119
Sema glue tide. Go ahead,
Bill, what's happening? Oh? Yes,

1129
01:31:57.079 --> 01:32:01.319
I'm on Samaglue tide. Uh.
I'm I just took my fourth injection,

1130
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:08.239
and I'm I'm on a small dose
because I just started on a point

1131
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:15.479
five US or whatever it is.
I don't or five, but right now

1132
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:19.720
I don't feel anything. I'm still
always hungry. Hey, Bill, let

1133
01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:25.439
me ask you something. You you
It usually takes They usually build you up

1134
01:32:25.520 --> 01:32:29.199
over four injections. Do you know
how many units you have? Do you

1135
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:32.880
know how many units you're on?
Yes? Uh, it's point I think

1136
01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:38.159
it's point five. Very small.
No, I mean, okay, how

1137
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:43.359
to convert that to US anyway?
Bill? Bill? It does take a

1138
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:45.359
little while doctor, Joel, what
what do you have to say about that?

1139
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:49.560
It does take he has to get
up to that full dosage. Yeah,

1140
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:53.560
and that usually takes four weeks to
get people up to that full dosage.

1141
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.840
I would say give it another thirty
days. But now once you're up

1142
01:32:56.920 --> 01:32:59.479
to the when are you going to
be up to the full dosage? Bill?

1143
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:05.439
Well, next week I start on
ten ten milligrams or point ten?

1144
01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:12.159
I don't okay any First of all, I'm not talking. I'm not sure

1145
01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:14.920
what you're talking about when it comes
dosage, but I can tell you this,

1146
01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:20.760
twenty units is a full dose,
twenty units, and I won't be

1147
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:26.039
on that for another month. Okay, they're kind of taking you extra slow.

1148
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:29.039
If you've already been on it for
four weeks, you should be up

1149
01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:31.800
to a full Listen, I'm not
going to second guess your doctor, but

1150
01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:38.840
but normally they take you up to
a full dose within a month. Yeah.

1151
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:42.359
Well, they must be starting me
out slow, because let me ask

1152
01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:45.279
you something. Are you on the
brand name or are you on the compound?

1153
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:53.479
The compound and and okay, okay, well we get from Denver region.

1154
01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:58.680
Okay, well hold on you guys. You guys don't take two months

1155
01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:00.960
to get them. He's says,
you've been on a month already, Bill,

1156
01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:08.560
how long you've been on at total
of four weeks and you're only at

1157
01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:15.359
a half okay, and you still
haven'te And and then this week I started

1158
01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:21.199
ten in this thyringe. Okay,
So they must have we must have started

1159
01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:25.560
you off a little bit slower than
most people for some reason. Uh.

1160
01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:28.640
But I would say give it a
few weeks once you're on the full dose

1161
01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:32.760
before you decide whether or not it's
it's working for you. Uh. And

1162
01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:35.800
if you still aren't feeling any effects, get back in touch with Tye,

1163
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:40.000
our patient coordinator, and he'll go
through everything with you. In fact,

1164
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:42.960
I would recommend that you reach out
to Tie now. Why don't you call

1165
01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:45.479
him right now? Really, you
should call him right now. And again

1166
01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:53.640
I've heard this from people directly that
after you're on the full dose, after

1167
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:58.239
you reach full dose, you'll feel
it. In about two weeks at full

1168
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:01.319
speed, you'll you'll start and then
because your body gets used to that.

1169
01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:04.840
And again, I'm not a doctor, I'm just telling you what people have

1170
01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:09.000
told me. Three three seven one
three talks seven one three eight two five

1171
01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:13.560
five. I want to talk again
to Barry Miller. Barry Miller, he

1172
01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:15.880
is a real estate broker. He
has been around for years and years and

1173
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:19.640
years in Denver. Fully trusted.
I trust him fully, I really do.

1174
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:26.039
You don't last this long without having
a great reputation. He's doing something

1175
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:29.439
called Vista Investments. And again,
I want to make this very clear,

1176
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:32.159
this is not a commercial, this
is not a sponsorship. I'm talking to

1177
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:36.319
him about it because I heard about
these returns. And what he does is

1178
01:35:36.359 --> 01:35:43.000
he buys real estate in a great
markets and they're in it for the appreciation.

1179
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.000
Barry, I need to ask just
a couple of questions when you do

1180
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:49.840
these investments. Do you do one
to one in other words, one investor

1181
01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:56.279
comes to you and then you hook
them up with one or more properties,

1182
01:35:56.600 --> 01:36:00.880
or do you pull the money.
We do not pool the money because that

1183
01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:08.159
would be securities, and we are
in real estate. More cannot security,

1184
01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:12.960
so we cannot initiate pooling of the
money. Okay, So what you do

1185
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:16.279
is if I come to you and
I say, Barry, I have fifty

1186
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:20.239
grand, one hundred grand, whatever
I have to invest, you take me

1187
01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:27.119
to a specific investment or two or
three for me? Well yeah, yeah,

1188
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:28.960
yeah, And we would sit down
with you, you know, for

1189
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:31.560
the men. However long it took
to say, what is it that your

1190
01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:36.920
financial objectives are? Because some people
are retiring in six eight years and they

1191
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.279
want to have cash flow of a
big nature, like ten grand a month

1192
01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.800
in six or eight years. Well, that'll be a particular plan. Other

1193
01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:49.600
people say, bet. Most most
of our customers say, Barry, get

1194
01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:54.600
me that highest return that we hear
about. Yes, we'd like to double

1195
01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:59.399
our money in two years. Now, Barry, do you do the people

1196
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:02.840
who come to you for vesterra investments? Do they come to you for monthly

1197
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:10.319
income off the rents or do they
come to you for appreciation of the equity.

1198
01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.920
Truthfully, I could say both,
but the whole truth would be most

1199
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:21.239
all of them for the equity gain, because that's where the big money is.

1200
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:27.880
When researched properly. It's safe as
can be in residential real estate,

1201
01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:30.680
but it has to be researched big
time. Okay. So if they come

1202
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:35.800
to you for appreciation and they put
money in, is that that's money I

1203
01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:41.600
assume is used for loan for them
to get loans on the property right down

1204
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:45.960
payment down. Most people are putting
the twenty five percent down. Now,

1205
01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:49.920
when they put twenty five percent down
on a property and they get the property

1206
01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:57.800
financed, do they always run a
positive cash flow? Our requirement is the

1207
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:02.319
only properties will look at, meaning
neighborhoods and properties have to have a break

1208
01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:06.560
even or positive cash flow in the
first year, and it has to get

1209
01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:12.439
better in the years after that.
And how long do your people expect to

1210
01:38:12.479 --> 01:38:16.560
stay in that property before they sell
and appreciate and get appreciated? Yeah,

1211
01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:20.399
go ahead, Yeah, and that
one, Tom, that's always always a

1212
01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:26.840
very pertinent question. It depends on
what their financial plans are. Again,

1213
01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:30.199
someone retiring in eight years, you
know, we're structuring it for them,

1214
01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:33.760
or twelve years some of them want, you know, family passed down,

1215
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:41.399
generational wealth. It could be a
little longer, but most of our owners

1216
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:45.560
have a plan that is definitely in
what we call mid range, closer to

1217
01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:50.560
the ten year period. However,
we do say, now, do you

1218
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:56.159
want to double your turns in a
matter of years? They said, yes,

1219
01:38:56.239 --> 01:38:59.039
how do we do that? Ten
thirty one time, We'll take one

1220
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:02.720
property and in two years sell it
and buy for those people to properties,

1221
01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:09.520
doubling their amount of income return.
Okay, And no, cash out of

1222
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:12.880
their pocket. Now, Barry,
I'm going to ask you some other questions

1223
01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:15.840
coming up, and I appreciate your
patience. I want to know, do

1224
01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:19.479
any of your investors ever suffer negative
cash flow? What if my property needs

1225
01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:24.000
a furnace? What if? What
if? What if? All of that

1226
01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:28.079
coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.
This is fascinating to me, by the

1227
01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:31.119
way, and I'm happy to be
talking to Barry about it. More coming

1228
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:42.720
right up. Go with a sure
thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

1229
01:39:42.760 --> 01:39:48.079
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content. Wait time for an insurance

1230
01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:53.720
checkup free, no obligation. In
comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much

1231
01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:58.119
your coverage at dozens of insurance companies
find out now three oh three seven seven

1232
01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:00.520
to one help. You'll think you're
his own week customer when you choose Frank

1233
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:05.199
durand the real estate Man dot com
to list your home with Remax Alliance three

1234
01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:15.479
all three nine two zero sixteen twenty
two. Hi tom Archino, you're troubleshooter

1235
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.720
three all three seven one three talk
three oh three seven one three eight two

1236
01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:24.279
five five. By the way,
I'm talking to Barry Miller, and he

1237
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:27.920
has uh, he's been a real
estate broke for years. And we have

1238
01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:31.359
some interesting comments on our from our
YouTube. I lovely call him YouTube warns.

1239
01:40:32.399 --> 01:40:38.760
And I'm sure that they probably linger
in the in the questions of people's

1240
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:44.640
minds in general. They're pretty reflective
of They're pretty reflective of people what they're

1241
01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:48.960
thinking. Okay, so some of
the questions. First of all, this

1242
01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:55.680
is a private investment. So what
about tax implications. Do they get right

1243
01:40:55.760 --> 01:40:59.039
offs? Do they get gained not
gains, but do they get income during

1244
01:40:59.039 --> 01:41:01.880
the year or do they suffer losses? Somebody, you know, I can't

1245
01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:04.680
believe that a house would be perfect, or an apartment or whatever. They

1246
01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:10.720
buy duplexes and that's another thing.
What kinds of properties? And what about

1247
01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:16.439
furnaces and air conditioners and septic systems
or whatever, drain problems? What about

1248
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:23.680
it? All of it. We
have a requirement that the property to the

1249
01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:28.640
triple check. Now we have a
buyer agent who checks it first before it

1250
01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:31.520
comes to us, that he sends
us the numbers. The numbers have to

1251
01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:38.880
meet certain criteria. We have a
proprietary analysis of the property. But deferred

1252
01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:45.199
maintenance we call all those things had
a septic tank issue. Today it was

1253
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:50.039
cleaned out and certified less than a
year ago. We must have a strong,

1254
01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:58.640
strong, written inspection report that makes
it appear clearly clearly that in the

1255
01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:04.159
next two years there will not be
more than seven thousand dollars of deferred maintenance.

1256
01:42:04.199 --> 01:42:09.039
Now, that's getting into the furnace
and air conditioning. Okay, they're

1257
01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:13.239
the two big items we look at. Roof is also the third big item.

1258
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:17.039
We are finding what we call cherry
picked properties and neighborhoods that do not

1259
01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:24.640
have many rentals. Newer homes typically
under twenty years and if they're twenty years

1260
01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:28.640
old, we have to make sure
that the furnace that heat pumps back east

1261
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:33.239
you know they use them. But
the same idea air conditioning that everyone including

1262
01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:42.319
the arms length home inspector says every
indication is this house will not have deferred

1263
01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:47.239
maintenance items of over seven grand in
the next two Sometimes we push and say

1264
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:51.720
tell us two to three years now. We also don't want at the end

1265
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:57.680
of three years four problems the total
seven or eight thousand tom. In our

1266
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:03.479
four years of being reactivated in twenty
nineteen we reactivated, we have had zero

1267
01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:09.119
problems The biggest problem was the thirteen
hundred dollars replacement of a door. When

1268
01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:13.680
I got involved because we oversee the
management, that turned down to that turned

1269
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:17.680
out to be an under four hundred
dollars new front storm door. So we

1270
01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:23.760
are hitting the mark, but it's
through real, real, thorough research and

1271
01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:29.439
monitoring every single property that every one
of our customers buy. Is it totally

1272
01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:35.800
hands off for the investor? It
can be totally hands off. Some of

1273
01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:40.720
them like to be more involved than
others, but that's typically just a little

1274
01:43:40.720 --> 01:43:45.079
bit more involved with us than asking
us more questions that we welcome that,

1275
01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:49.520
and we love skepticism in the beginning, and we loved communications throughout the brand.

1276
01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:53.119
I didn't get to all my questions
from my people. If you can

1277
01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:57.439
hang on, I'd truly appreciate it. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best

1278
01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:04.279
roofer Excelroofing dot com. You don't
pay cent until you're content. Time for

1279
01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:09.640
an insurance check up free, no
obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance.

1280
01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:13.760
Pay too much your coverage at dozens
of insurance companies find out now three

1281
01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:16.680
oh three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

1282
01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:20.399
you choose Frank durand the real estate
man dot com to list your home with

1283
01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:33.640
Remax Alliance three oh three nine two
zero sixteen twenty two Ripped News. You

1284
01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:43.279
needed that so you don't have come
run in as as a cam shooter's gonna

1285
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:53.199
help come Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez, Oh, welcome

1286
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:56.840
to the show. I'm Tom.
Solving your problems, answering your questions,

1287
01:44:56.840 --> 01:45:00.920
taking your complaints, make your life
just a little easier. I hope that

1288
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:04.000
you've been hearing my call with Barry
Miller. I'm going to go back to

1289
01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:09.560
that. I also have doctor Joel
Trudak with me Denver Regen dot com about

1290
01:45:09.840 --> 01:45:14.720
Semiglue Tide and we have questions about
that as well. So we also have

1291
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:19.560
an update about the bows radio that
a couple they moved and it was smashed

1292
01:45:19.560 --> 01:45:23.159
and they needed a new one,
and we'll go to that one. In

1293
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:30.479
fact, let's do that right now. We have a deputy a dollar depty

1294
01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:38.239
dollar. This problem occurred when this
older couple they were moving and their Bow's

1295
01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:42.720
radio was destroyed. Right is that
it in a nutshell And of course the

1296
01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:45.840
movers as usual said there's nothing we
can do about it. Linda and Dean.

1297
01:45:46.119 --> 01:45:50.479
What happened then? So then a
couple of weeks ago, Linda had

1298
01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:58.079
called into the show and a listener
heard the call and said, oh,

1299
01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:01.319
I have a bowse radio that I'm
not you using, and he dropped it

1300
01:46:01.359 --> 01:46:05.439
off here at the station. And
then when I when I came in this

1301
01:46:05.600 --> 01:46:11.000
morning, I asked Kelly if it
was here, and she said yeah,

1302
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:15.880
and I called Linda and they live
about two minutes from the station. Oh,

1303
01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:18.840
no, fooling yeah, And they
just came right over and they're the

1304
01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:25.319
sweetest little couple and they were so
happy. They brought a CD to test

1305
01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:29.039
out, you know, if that
worked, but they were so thankful to

1306
01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:34.399
the efforts. And that's cool.
Yeah, I did not realize that that

1307
01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:40.039
is so wonderful. So they have. In fact, you know, it's

1308
01:46:40.079 --> 01:46:42.960
been a while since I used my
dinger, so I may as well use

1309
01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.359
it, because if you don't use
it, you know what they say,

1310
01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:50.319
you lose it. So here's the
dinger. And thank you for that listener

1311
01:46:51.319 --> 01:46:56.640
who provided that you working on anything
else? Dollar, Oh yeah, I've

1312
01:46:56.640 --> 01:47:00.279
got a couple other ones that I'll
have updates here in the new Kay day

1313
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:01.960
or two. All right, by
the way, you can call us.

1314
01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:05.479
We got another hour to go three
all three seven one three talk three old

1315
01:47:05.479 --> 01:47:10.560
three seven one three eight two five
five. In fact, if you have

1316
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.840
any questions for my guest Denver Regen
dot com on stem cell therapy or Semaglue

1317
01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:18.239
tide for weight loss that you've heard
about, they provided at just two hundred

1318
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:21.119
and fifty bucks a month. Now
the other thing I'm talking if you have

1319
01:47:21.159 --> 01:47:26.279
any questions for Barry Miller. Barry
Miller is you know I met him many

1320
01:47:26.279 --> 01:47:30.039
many years ago. I met Barry
many years ago and he was doing he

1321
01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:33.520
was he pioneered the buyer broker in
real estate. He literally pioneered it.

1322
01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:38.560
And I did a story on him
and interviewed him, and then over the

1323
01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:41.479
years I've watched him and he's done
this. He's doing this thing now called

1324
01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:45.079
Vestera Investments, where really it's it's
not a reed, a real estate investment

1325
01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:51.800
trust, it's not a pooled investment. But what it is is he advertises

1326
01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:56.199
and people want to get into real
estate. He does it all basically as

1327
01:47:56.239 --> 01:48:00.319
far as the management and the prospects
and the buying the properties are helped them

1328
01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:02.800
by it, and these consumers come
to him. It's not pulled money.

1329
01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:06.439
So a consumer will come to him. He'll set them up in a rental

1330
01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:11.600
somewhere in a great market, he
says, with good appreciation. But I

1331
01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:15.960
have some very basic questions. There's
always risk when you're in the rental business.

1332
01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:18.920
So what could go wrong? Obviously
there could be losses, But so

1333
01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:25.279
far, so far, you're saying, and again you know there are no

1334
01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:29.000
guarantees in anything, but you're saying
so far in how long you've been doing

1335
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:32.840
this? Now? So Tom,
the company started in two thousand and three.

1336
01:48:33.159 --> 01:48:36.840
I had some terrible family situations.
I had to shut down for about

1337
01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:44.399
eight years, from twenty ten to
twenty eighteen, so roughly fourteen good solid

1338
01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:49.000
years. And really the losses that
we had, the only losses were because

1339
01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:54.319
of the Great Recession. I was
telling some of our rights sell, sell,

1340
01:48:54.720 --> 01:49:00.239
and some didn't sell soon enough.
Now right now, though, Tea,

1341
01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:03.359
Yeah, we got super active,
super active more than ever before,

1342
01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:09.680
because I have wound down my real
estate professional practice because of this, and

1343
01:49:09.760 --> 01:49:15.640
we have had no losses, zero
losses in four years. In four years.

1344
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:20.960
It's not quite one hundred properties,
but it's approaching one hundred properties and

1345
01:49:21.039 --> 01:49:26.960
now we're growing exponentially. Okay,
next thing, do they get passed Do

1346
01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:31.079
your people get passed through write offs? Yeah they do. That's up to

1347
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:35.920
their situation with their tax you know, prepare, but yes they do.

1348
01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:42.000
Because some of them are taking you
know, accelerated depreciate. I always warn

1349
01:49:42.079 --> 01:49:45.600
them that when they do that,
that's good for those years. But when

1350
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:48.000
they sell it, let's say,
attend thirty one, they they're going to

1351
01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:54.000
have to give back that gain.
But no, but we're we're killing it.

1352
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:58.720
Okay, because there's recapture of gains. But sometimes it's better to take

1353
01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:02.920
the deduction in your high income years
and then take the gains later on recapture

1354
01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:06.840
in your lower income years. So
they do get some tax right off.

1355
01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:11.920
So they do, of course make
most of the time long term capital gains,

1356
01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.439
right because they're keeping them longer.
Well yeah, yeah, and then

1357
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:19.399
when they sell, you know,
it's usually in an exchange situation. But

1358
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:25.680
eventually, you know, when people
we have some wonderful listeners from okay,

1359
01:50:25.800 --> 01:50:29.439
how of course, who are in
their mid eighties now, and they're just

1360
01:50:29.479 --> 01:50:31.920
saying, we're not ready to slow
down yet, you know, but when

1361
01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:36.039
they do it. They're going to
not be hit with terrible capital gains.

1362
01:50:36.760 --> 01:50:41.159
We all think they're terrible, but
they won't be hit as hard as whether

1363
01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:45.600
they would have when they were in
their fifties. Okay, Now as far

1364
01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:54.760
as as far as let me see
somebody says here, people say these investments

1365
01:50:54.760 --> 01:50:58.399
sound almost too good to be true. That's one of the COIs. Okay,

1366
01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:00.279
but you're saying it. The proof
is in the pudding. And of

1367
01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:06.000
course there's no guarantee now, but
conversations and meeting with us and then seeing

1368
01:51:06.039 --> 01:51:11.319
the numbers. We everyone who comes
to us after they I mean, we

1369
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:15.119
want skepticism, but they have to
sign a non disclosure because we reveal to

1370
01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:20.199
them actual properties that are recently purchased. If they want a four year old

1371
01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:25.720
property. They want to talk to
our current customers, but they do sign

1372
01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:31.399
an NDA so that they don't go
telling some sloppy real estate or securities person,

1373
01:51:31.840 --> 01:51:34.720
you know, and then and then
somebody's going to hurt them. Okay,

1374
01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:39.359
but this is really important to you. Is it totally If I come

1375
01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:42.359
to you and I don't want to
mess with anything, is it all hands

1376
01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:46.039
off? Other than signing my name, other than signing your name. You

1377
01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:50.479
get an annual report from the property
manager. You get monthly reports from the

1378
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:56.560
property manager. But it's hands off. We are fully turnkey. That's why

1379
01:51:56.600 --> 01:52:00.640
we really are pushing the change of
our name. We changed our I haven't

1380
01:52:00.680 --> 01:52:06.359
done it at the Secretary of State's
office yet to invest Terra turnkey investments because

1381
01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:13.720
we are now totally turnkey. Okay, the next thing, how do you

1382
01:52:13.920 --> 01:52:16.079
make your money? You never trust
anyone till you know how they make money.

1383
01:52:16.159 --> 01:52:20.000
Right now, Oh you bet you
better ask that question. Well,

1384
01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:25.319
the consumer does not have to pay
us anything directly, but Tom, you

1385
01:52:25.399 --> 01:52:30.039
know that both with commissions, the
buyer commission, the buyer broker commission and

1386
01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:35.039
the seller broker commission are built into
still even with the court cases, into

1387
01:52:35.159 --> 01:52:41.520
the asking or selling price of course, purchase price of the property. Okay,

1388
01:52:41.720 --> 01:52:45.560
we're doing over half the work having
the buyer prepared. So the buyer

1389
01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:53.960
then goes to our selected buyer agent
in let's just say North Carolina. The

1390
01:52:54.000 --> 01:53:00.640
North Carolina person becomes our customers buyer
agent. They close the transaction, that

1391
01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:05.279
buyer broker sends us in round numbers
half of the commission that they received.

1392
01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:11.359
That's how we get paid okay,
but hold on, then what about I

1393
01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:15.439
would imagine that's pretty hard to sustain
with all you're doing, I mean just

1394
01:53:15.560 --> 01:53:20.159
the buyer commission or half of it. Do you make anything on the management?

1395
01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:24.960
No? Nothing on the management.
No, no, No, it's

1396
01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:30.840
not hard to sustain. We have
it down to very very efficient. If

1397
01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:36.880
you will on behalf of the consumer
business processes that in ballpark figure, fifty

1398
01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:43.760
percent of that buyer broker fee that
comes back to us covers our expenses,

1399
01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:47.319
our research, which is the big
big item, and we make a profit.

1400
01:53:48.319 --> 01:53:53.159
Okay, I mean that's wonderful,
but wow. So but do you

1401
01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:56.039
also get them on the way out
when they sell? And I don't mean

1402
01:53:56.079 --> 01:54:01.439
get them, I mean do we
get a referral fee from the seller agent?

1403
01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:04.119
Yes, we do. It's a
little it's modified, it a little

1404
01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:09.279
different because we don't do as much
work and we try to get that seller

1405
01:54:09.319 --> 01:54:13.680
agent. So your total commission,
your total commission is on buying and selling.

1406
01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:17.399
Absolutely, and then there's no one
between you. Don't you don't charge

1407
01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:21.760
me a fee at all? No
fees at all. No, there's an

1408
01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:28.199
optional fee if you want us to
do extra extra like what search and I'll

1409
01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:31.439
tell you what it is over see
the property manager. In other words,

1410
01:54:31.479 --> 01:54:35.000
people are putting us in charge.
Say up to a five hundred dollars problem,

1411
01:54:35.039 --> 01:54:39.560
Barry, we want your team to
take care of the problem. Well,

1412
01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:44.000
hold on when you say property manager, do you have? Then you

1413
01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:47.000
turn when I give you the money
or invest the money, and you set

1414
01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:51.520
me up. Do you find the
loans? We find the loans. We

1415
01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:56.600
get no money from that. We
do not. We find the property manager.

1416
01:54:56.680 --> 01:55:00.159
We get nothing from them. But
you pay us, ridging out about

1417
01:55:00.199 --> 01:55:05.800
two hundred and fifty dollars a year
per property. If you want us to

1418
01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:12.479
oversee the manager themselves and the management
of the property. Do you use the

1419
01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:17.399
same management company in each market?
We have one, no more than three

1420
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:23.079
in any of the bigger markets.
And the property managers you've been working with

1421
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:27.720
and you trust them, Oh,
we trust them. And I mean my

1422
01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:31.399
wife and I are in the company. She has to line up in line

1423
01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:35.560
just like all the other customers.
And we do that very open book,

1424
01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:41.720
paper flow process. And I go
to the when we pick a hotspot city,

1425
01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:45.159
I go there. I mean I
meet the property managers and all the

1426
01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:50.199
people actually working the properties. I
meet the local insurance brokers, of course,

1427
01:55:50.239 --> 01:55:55.560
I meet the buyer broker and seller
broker. I meet attorneys. North

1428
01:55:55.560 --> 01:56:00.920
Carolina is an attorney state, unlike
Colorado. So I meet the attorneys who

1429
01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:04.159
do the closings, and we make
sure that they are pro customer, pro

1430
01:56:04.239 --> 01:56:10.680
consumer centric, consumer centric people,
and yes we trust them. But no

1431
01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:15.840
matter what, it's my house,
my loan, my responsibility. So if

1432
01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:19.279
the and again I'm not looking for
trouble, but if the management company goes

1433
01:56:19.640 --> 01:56:26.840
tango uniform or if the uh,
if the you retire or of them,

1434
01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:30.199
you know, I mean, it's
my ultimate responsibility to get rid of the

1435
01:56:30.199 --> 01:56:35.479
property or to keep it going.
Ultimately, it is at our company invest

1436
01:56:35.479 --> 01:56:40.720
there now we have two companies,
vest Sterra Turnkey Investments, and then my

1437
01:56:40.880 --> 01:56:46.399
brokerage. We have a couple of
failed uh safe systems that are people oriented.

1438
01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:49.560
We have three layers of people.
Yes, I'm one of them.

1439
01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:54.479
If I you know, go,
I'm no youngster and uh, but I

1440
01:56:54.600 --> 01:56:59.079
have young people coming into the company
who'll take it over. We watch all

1441
01:56:59.119 --> 01:57:03.079
those things. And yes, nothing
is one hundred percent safe, but nothing

1442
01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:09.039
no investment anywhere in this great country
of a country. We limit ourselves to

1443
01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:14.640
the United States for obvious economic and
political reasons. We're not going elsewhere where.

1444
01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:17.960
The the risk is much higher.
Nothing is lower risk than what we're

1445
01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:23.720
doing. We have so many failed
safe systems built in the entire process,

1446
01:57:24.239 --> 01:57:30.119
and that includes researching the neighborhood after
our customers buy the property. Okay,

1447
01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:36.840
so their investment. What's the shortest
time you had someone in and out we

1448
01:57:36.920 --> 01:57:44.039
had, Well, the shortest time
is about two years, a little under

1449
01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:49.720
two years, and that's because they
had an economic unforeseen negative let's call it

1450
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:54.840
a financial disaster in their family and
they had to get out and they still

1451
01:57:54.880 --> 01:57:58.000
made good money. Now, a
year ago, less than a year ago,

1452
01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:01.600
I had a person tom her job
and we were doing the research on

1453
01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:08.239
her property. Her return if she
had to sell it after about twelve thirteen

1454
01:58:08.279 --> 01:58:14.000
months was going to be thirty three
percent after sales costs. Okay, that's

1455
01:58:14.039 --> 01:58:16.560
the worst that we've had. And
then her job came back and she said,

1456
01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:18.880
Barry, I don't have to sell
it. Don't have to sell And

1457
01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:25.000
she has since purchased another property.
Wow, we watch it. We care

1458
01:58:25.039 --> 01:58:32.880
about our customers. All it is
is microscopic care and macro economics combined,

1459
01:58:33.520 --> 01:58:38.760
all the way to microscopic care.
You know. I'm talking about walking the

1460
01:58:38.800 --> 01:58:43.399
streets and making sure we get the
best house at the best time. Sometimes

1461
01:58:43.439 --> 01:58:46.199
we put our offers in and they're
not accepted. Fine, we just quickly

1462
01:58:46.239 --> 01:58:49.479
walk. We're easily walk. You
know. If it's not the right property,

1463
01:58:49.520 --> 01:58:54.520
we're going to walk through negotiations.
People are buying it all time.

1464
01:58:54.600 --> 01:58:59.000
High interest rates right now right and
high prices time interest rates, and this

1465
01:58:59.079 --> 01:59:03.159
is now. We lost a couple
of hotspot cities because of the high interest

1466
01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:08.680
rates. San Antonio, I will
say, was a hotspot city combined with

1467
01:59:08.760 --> 01:59:12.920
high property taxes of Texas. But
when the interest rates went up, it

1468
01:59:13.039 --> 01:59:15.800
was no longer a positive cash flow. I just told the broker and the

1469
01:59:15.800 --> 01:59:19.279
people we were working with, I
said, we got to take you off

1470
01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:24.720
the hotspot market. We can't work
with you until the interest rates come down

1471
01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:28.640
or if you will get Texas to
lower their property taxes, and that's not

1472
01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:30.800
going to happen. So there's nothing
to prevent someone to go to a hot

1473
01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:34.199
market, although they don't have the
research, but if they could find out

1474
01:59:34.239 --> 01:59:39.119
a hot market to go there,
buy a rental and get a management company.

1475
01:59:39.560 --> 01:59:43.159
So I've had people go around me. I'm sorry to say yes.

1476
01:59:43.640 --> 01:59:46.640
I mean because I mean it's not
magic, right or is there some is

1477
01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:49.479
it? Is it all in the
research or do you do the people know?

1478
01:59:49.640 --> 01:59:53.840
Do the manager companies know? Well, Barry's involved. Let's treat these

1479
01:59:53.840 --> 01:59:59.479
people extra well I mean or correct
correct? Think about it. One person

1480
01:59:59.600 --> 02:00:02.920
goes and they get a manager for
one property. Okay, something goes wrong

1481
02:00:03.039 --> 02:00:08.359
that property management company loses one customer. With us, they're going to lose

1482
02:00:08.399 --> 02:00:13.800
dozens of customers. Our people are
getting great, great attention, all right,

1483
02:00:13.840 --> 02:00:15.479
and we know it. We know
it, and it works. But

1484
02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:21.000
we have everything gear Tom and by
the way, we love love, healthy

1485
02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:26.880
skepticism. And we say to all
the consumers you talk to anybody either I

1486
02:00:26.880 --> 02:00:29.520
don't care for you know, go
ahead and we love it. And we're

1487
02:00:29.560 --> 02:00:32.479
here to answer questions at anytime.
Now listen, I want to make sure

1488
02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:35.920
people know this is not a commercial. This is just a real interview.

1489
02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:40.399
I had questions. Now here's the
deal. Give out your number. I'm

1490
02:00:40.439 --> 02:00:43.039
going to reserve the right to call
you back. If people call in and

1491
02:00:43.079 --> 02:00:45.119
ask about it, we'll get you. We'll get Okay. What where should

1492
02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:55.680
people call for more information? Three
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1493
02:00:55.960 --> 02:01:00.880
eight. And then your website website
is vest Tara. Now that's via in

1494
02:01:01.039 --> 02:01:06.359
victory E s T. That's the
word vest as in invest. And then

1495
02:01:06.399 --> 02:01:12.079
it's Tara t E R R A
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1496
02:01:12.119 --> 02:01:17.800
t vest Tara turnkey dot com.
All right, thank you very much,

1497
02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:26.239
Barry. Appreciate that we got more
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02:02:01.840 --> 02:02:06.920
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02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:13.239
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02:02:36.800 --> 02:02:40.960
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02:02:41.840 --> 02:02:45.199
You have a half hour. You
want to get in, you want to

1512
02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:47.079
talk about anything. And again I
let Barry Miller go, that was,

1513
02:02:47.199 --> 02:02:50.880
uh, just a very It's just
an interest I had because I heard the

1514
02:02:51.039 --> 02:02:56.800
ads and I thought, you know
what, how when you do these kinds

1515
02:02:56.840 --> 02:03:00.760
of promises on returns that's based on
the past, never getaranteed, of course,

1516
02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:03.079
But here's the bottom line. If
you have a track record and you're

1517
02:03:03.119 --> 02:03:09.000
doing it, you're doing it now. There are so many things that come

1518
02:03:09.039 --> 02:03:13.680
into play like that. There are
so many people promising things. What you

1519
02:03:13.800 --> 02:03:17.079
need to look at are guarantees in
writing, or you need to look at

1520
02:03:17.680 --> 02:03:24.039
track records. And again, there's
nothing to prevent another great recession from coming

1521
02:03:24.159 --> 02:03:29.760
or anything like that, as of
course everyone knows things can happen, right,

1522
02:03:30.439 --> 02:03:33.720
Okay, So what is on your
mind today? Well, I have

1523
02:03:33.840 --> 02:03:38.399
some questions about Semaglue tide. Again. Let me go to my text here

1524
02:03:38.479 --> 02:03:44.800
real quick but we did hit upon
the We did hit upon the obsessive behavior.

1525
02:03:45.319 --> 02:03:49.800
It seems to be doing well for
that. One texture, by the

1526
02:03:49.800 --> 02:03:56.640
way, said they lost on this
seventy five pounds in five months. Holy

1527
02:03:56.760 --> 02:04:01.520
crap. All right, now,
let's talk about the Oh and somebody else

1528
02:04:01.560 --> 02:04:06.800
wanted to make a comment on when
I talked about Tesla, they talked about

1529
02:04:06.880 --> 02:04:12.359
the Porsche and Macon, the Macon
A twenty twenty five making it's it's an

1530
02:04:12.399 --> 02:04:16.600
EV vehicle. Let's talk about obsessive
behavior. What do you know about it?

1531
02:04:17.399 --> 02:04:20.319
I know there was some research on
it. There's been some research and

1532
02:04:20.359 --> 02:04:26.000
there's been a lot of reports from
patients people have gotten over addiction from it.

1533
02:04:26.279 --> 02:04:30.720
That or that's what they attribute to
it. Compulsive behavior smoking Obviously,

1534
02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:33.279
overeating is a big one because that's
what it controls. But in addition and

1535
02:04:33.439 --> 02:04:39.560
drinking, drinking smoking, I wonder
why, well, because it it.

1536
02:04:39.600 --> 02:04:44.359
The theory is is that because it
takes care of the centers of your brain

1537
02:04:44.760 --> 02:04:49.680
that are affected by those compulsions,
including eating, those pleasure centers of your

1538
02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:57.279
brain are satiated by the drugs.
So basically it suppresses your compulsion to want

1539
02:04:57.279 --> 02:05:01.319
to eat or want to do these
other things. Okay, Now somebody also

1540
02:05:01.479 --> 02:05:04.520
asks will you ever have pill form
in some of glue tide? I don't

1541
02:05:04.520 --> 02:05:09.520
even they have that. That does
exist. It's very but is it as

1542
02:05:09.560 --> 02:05:12.560
effective? Not at all, which
is why we don't offer it. You

1543
02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:15.760
have to take more or you have
to take it more often. I don't

1544
02:05:15.760 --> 02:05:19.279
think that it works very effectively at
all. I think because it's passing through

1545
02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:24.560
your digestive system that it gets broken
down to the point where it's very I

1546
02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:27.640
would say you'd probably have to take
more and more often. You probably have

1547
02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:30.439
to maybe even Daly who knows.
I mean, it would be a waste,

1548
02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:35.079
right. You see some online pharmacies
offering that for discounted prices, but

1549
02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:41.479
really it's not a very effect Do
you find that injections are a barrier to

1550
02:05:41.640 --> 02:05:46.880
entry from a lot of people?
What percentage once they speak with us?

1551
02:05:46.920 --> 02:05:51.279
It isn't because really what it is
is a minor insulin injection, so it's

1552
02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:56.279
a really thin nied. It'll be
surprised though, how many people can't inject

1553
02:05:56.279 --> 02:06:00.560
themselves. I remember when I started
doing testosterne shots, I never thought millionaires

1554
02:06:00.600 --> 02:06:01.880
I could do it. Well,
this is different. Obviously, it's a

1555
02:06:01.920 --> 02:06:04.119
much. Well, no, it's
much smaller. But once you get over

1556
02:06:04.199 --> 02:06:06.399
that, you can do it.
I mean, I don't know how to

1557
02:06:06.479 --> 02:06:11.640
explain it. It's just almost that
initial thing. But the insulin needle is

1558
02:06:12.119 --> 02:06:16.079
it's it's a mosquito, but it's
it's painless after you do it the first

1559
02:06:16.079 --> 02:06:18.800
time, it's it's a piece of
cake. Okay, So you know,

1560
02:06:18.840 --> 02:06:21.520
we can you can always. One
of the benefits of our clinic and our

1561
02:06:21.560 --> 02:06:26.000
clinic being local is that you can
always come in and our staff can show

1562
02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:29.119
you how to do it. That
being said, I don't think we've had

1563
02:06:29.159 --> 02:06:32.079
one patient come and take advantage of
that. Uh. The so everything is

1564
02:06:32.359 --> 02:06:35.840
sent to them, ship to them, everything is shipped to them. So

1565
02:06:35.960 --> 02:06:41.000
right now somebody else want to know, is everything virtual from the right from

1566
02:06:41.000 --> 02:06:45.880
the get go? It can be, and most patients opt for that.

1567
02:06:45.119 --> 02:06:48.520
The convenience of of being able to
talk to the doctor and talk to the

1568
02:06:49.279 --> 02:06:55.239
to our patient coordinator remotely is a
convenience for most people. That being said,

1569
02:06:55.600 --> 02:06:58.479
we always offer anybody if they want
to come into our clinic, they're

1570
02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:00.479
welcome to do so. Three three
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02:07:26.920 --> 02:07:30.319
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1577
02:07:30.359 --> 02:07:40.760
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martinez here three all three

1578
02:07:40.880 --> 02:07:45.399
seven one three talk three h three
seven one three eight two five five Java,

1579
02:07:45.600 --> 02:07:47.880
what is happening? And I'm sure
no one has ever called you Java

1580
02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:51.800
the hut? What's going on?
Oh? Yeah they do. So I

1581
02:07:53.079 --> 02:07:59.399
have a story for you about people
trying to get past that insulin needle you

1582
02:07:59.439 --> 02:08:01.560
know, you in your body.
It's not that big a deal. Yeah,

1583
02:08:03.359 --> 02:08:11.399
Well, I personally have injected it
into my member for viagra, And

1584
02:08:11.560 --> 02:08:16.359
I mean, does it stuff work
or what? Now? Get over that?

1585
02:08:18.880 --> 02:08:20.960
What do you mean by that?
I think what he's trying to say

1586
02:08:22.000 --> 02:08:30.319
is that he has no problem object. Oh my goodness, Oh that you're

1587
02:08:30.359 --> 02:08:41.319
talking about the ed shot. Yeah
you lane. Oh he's a that's his

1588
02:08:41.399 --> 02:08:46.560
GPS. So listen, hold on, bro hold on. Are you telling

1589
02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:52.800
me that you've done that? Oh
yeah, I got prescriptions for a year

1590
02:08:52.880 --> 02:08:58.199
to do it. And and okay, this is a family show, but

1591
02:08:58.239 --> 02:09:03.520
we can talk about this a little
bit now. You got to be pretty

1592
02:09:03.680 --> 02:09:09.000
so nothing else worked? Is that
what you're saying. No, that's just

1593
02:09:09.039 --> 02:09:11.560
what they prescribed. It was just
a helper, you know. And is

1594
02:09:11.600 --> 02:09:16.960
it like us? Is it as
small as an insulin needle? Exactly?

1595
02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:20.439
Yep, exactly like it. It
is an It is an insulin needle.

1596
02:09:20.680 --> 02:09:24.239
It's the same thing that we use. It is the same thing. How

1597
02:09:24.279 --> 02:09:28.359
do you know about it? Well, because we've offered that the patients as

1598
02:09:28.359 --> 02:09:31.840
well. You have okay, you
offer that service as well. So no,

1599
02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:35.399
seriously, So that's what the man's
men's clinics and all those you hear

1600
02:09:35.439 --> 02:09:37.039
advertised say, you know, come
into the office. If the dose do

1601
02:09:37.319 --> 02:09:43.760
work, they use an insulin needle. Okay, yes, but I do.

1602
02:09:43.119 --> 02:09:46.640
Hold on, hold on, hold
on those men's clinics and stuff.

1603
02:09:46.680 --> 02:09:50.840
You don't put it into your penis. They just put it in your body.

1604
02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:54.720
You put hormones in your body or
whatever. No, No, we're

1605
02:09:54.760 --> 02:09:58.640
not talking about testosterone. There are
some clinics. I know. I'm talking

1606
02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:03.960
about the actual stuff like viagra,
And you put it directly in. I

1607
02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:07.760
know, I know exactly what you're
talking about. And it's not viagra medicine.

1608
02:10:07.800 --> 02:10:11.680
It's not even close. It's a
different kind of medicine altogether. I

1609
02:10:11.760 --> 02:10:15.000
know all about it. I mean, I shouldn't say I know all about

1610
02:10:15.039 --> 02:10:18.880
it. I've heard all about it. It's just that I couldn't even imagine

1611
02:10:18.880 --> 02:10:22.960
someone doing that. I mean,
you gotta be truly really, I don't

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know, y yeah, yeah,
yeah. And by the way, I

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02:10:28.039 --> 02:10:35.239
believe the reason for that is that
it constricts venus flow, and the venus

1614
02:10:35.319 --> 02:10:37.439
I don't know. Then you know, the yeah, venus flow. In

1615
02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:41.880
other words, what it does is
it keeps it from outflowing. Most men

1616
02:10:41.960 --> 02:10:46.840
have a problem. You see.
What viagra and the others do is increase

1617
02:10:46.960 --> 02:10:52.079
the inflow, and they hope to
increase it enough where the outflow can the

1618
02:10:52.119 --> 02:10:56.399
inflow will keep up with the outflow. But as you get older, the

1619
02:10:56.520 --> 02:11:00.920
leakage or the outflow of blood is
more severe than an anything you can put

1620
02:11:00.920 --> 02:11:05.680
in. So that's why those needs
me though, Tom hold them. What

1621
02:11:05.760 --> 02:11:09.760
was killing me was when I was
taking set of phil or all those ye

1622
02:11:09.880 --> 02:11:15.840
yeah, yeah, my head,
my head, my head, shoulders,

1623
02:11:16.439 --> 02:11:20.760
on my head, on my shoulders
would feel like it was exploding. A

1624
02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:22.439
lot of people have said that,
a lot of people have said that,

1625
02:11:22.680 --> 02:11:26.600
and again, you know, you
know, we can be we can be

1626
02:11:28.199 --> 02:11:33.000
sophomoric about it and all that,
but there is a problem with a lot

1627
02:11:33.079 --> 02:11:35.119
of men with ed as you get
older, and it's not nothing to be

1628
02:11:35.119 --> 02:11:39.560
ashamed of, but but truly,
those injections you're talking about, more power

1629
02:11:39.560 --> 02:11:43.319
to you if you can do it, and that is to restrict venus flow.

1630
02:11:43.399 --> 02:11:46.560
That's exactly what it does. I
mean, that's exactly and all I

1631
02:11:46.600 --> 02:11:52.319
know is it works. Yeah,
okay, so I don't know how you

1632
02:11:52.359 --> 02:11:56.279
get over it. But again,
congratulations, because if I ever went to

1633
02:11:56.319 --> 02:11:58.840
one of these men's clinics, I
say, I never went to one.

1634
02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:01.720
I heard the commercials, but can
you imagine if I walked in and they

1635
02:12:01.720 --> 02:12:03.720
said, oh, by the way, here's what we have to do.

1636
02:12:05.159 --> 02:12:07.880
I'm thinking, what I mean,
I never even dreamed of that. I

1637
02:12:09.000 --> 02:12:11.399
never even heard about it. I
think, who was it that somebody told

1638
02:12:11.439 --> 02:12:13.439
me about it? And said,
you know what that is, right?

1639
02:12:13.439 --> 02:12:16.199
And I said what those commercials?
You know what they are? They're injections

1640
02:12:16.239 --> 02:12:22.039
And I said really, but but
doctor Cherdak, you guys, so you

1641
02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:26.319
do testosterone too, right, Yes, and you do a testosterone along with

1642
02:12:26.399 --> 02:12:28.800
sema glue tide, you do,
you know, so you do the weight

1643
02:12:28.880 --> 02:12:33.720
loss, you do the stem cell
therapy, even hair therapy, the PRP

1644
02:12:33.840 --> 02:12:37.840
and stem cells for hair growth.
So basically anything to do with the hormones

1645
02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:41.600
and the regenerative minds, regenerative medice
the right. So I did not know

1646
02:12:41.680 --> 02:12:48.199
you did those injections though, And
how the heck do you do you teach

1647
02:12:48.239 --> 02:12:50.239
people? How do they get over
it? Do you get the same reaction

1648
02:12:50.359 --> 02:12:54.239
this ew? We do? And
it's pretty rare that we have those patients

1649
02:12:54.279 --> 02:12:58.199
that need that service. Yeah.
Primarily the patients that we have are on

1650
02:12:58.640 --> 02:13:03.000
you know, your generic Biagora,
your generic Cialis and things like that.

1651
02:13:03.359 --> 02:13:07.279
But in the rare cases where those
products don't work, the injection is the

1652
02:13:07.319 --> 02:13:11.319
next step up from that. All
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02:13:56.600 --> 02:14:03.279
two five five finish out the show
with Denver Regen dot com. And we

1662
02:14:03.279 --> 02:14:07.119
were talking about we got off on
some crazy stuff today, but that's okay.

1663
02:14:07.159 --> 02:14:09.600
We can talk about anything we want. All you have to do is

1664
02:14:09.640 --> 02:14:13.279
call us at three zero three seven
one three talk seven one three eight two

1665
02:14:13.319 --> 02:14:22.000
five five. So here's the dam. Here's the thing is if you want

1666
02:14:22.159 --> 02:14:26.319
to do this semiglue tide, that's
what they're doing, okay, and they're

1667
02:14:26.359 --> 02:14:31.479
doing it cheaper than anyone. And
I say cheaper is cheaper. Two hundred

1668
02:14:31.520 --> 02:14:35.880
and fifty bucks a month is pretty
low cost. The Church Sepside Church's eppetite

1669
02:14:35.960 --> 02:14:41.279
is a little more, but it's
well worth it. And they also,

1670
02:14:41.359 --> 02:14:45.920
of course, as we heard,
do other services for men, uh for

1671
02:14:46.079 --> 02:14:50.520
you know, testosterone treatments or for
hair growth to thickening hair, all kinds

1672
02:14:50.560 --> 02:14:54.920
of stuff. Stem cells, And
we don't talk about stem cells a lot,

1673
02:14:54.960 --> 02:14:58.159
but I just want to touch on
that a bit. Stem cell therapy

1674
02:14:58.199 --> 02:15:03.479
is still going strong, and of
course we've been shifting our advertising with you

1675
02:15:03.960 --> 02:15:07.199
more toward the weight loss thing because
it's such a hot commodity. But I

1676
02:15:07.279 --> 02:15:11.800
can't help but say how that stem
cell therapy helped me. In fact,

1677
02:15:11.840 --> 02:15:16.399
I'll tell you what. I came
so close Joel to not doing the surgery.

1678
02:15:16.600 --> 02:15:20.039
The reason I did a surge,
I told people I had nothing to

1679
02:15:20.039 --> 02:15:22.720
do with pain at that point.
It had to do with the point that

1680
02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:30.119
my bone was so far gone that
I opted for that implant. But had

1681
02:15:30.119 --> 02:15:33.119
it not been because what my doctor
said was, I'm so happy you're out

1682
02:15:33.159 --> 02:15:35.600
of pain, And he said it
must have been stem cells because we didn't

1683
02:15:35.600 --> 02:15:39.600
do anything and I was off all
drugs, all pain, and then I

1684
02:15:39.840 --> 02:15:43.479
opted for that because what he said
is when you get into your if you're

1685
02:15:43.520 --> 02:15:46.760
fortunate enough to live to eighty or
more. You know, this is gonna

1686
02:15:46.800 --> 02:15:52.079
be a problem now. I imagine
with stem cells there are people who are

1687
02:15:52.119 --> 02:15:56.800
just too far gone. But no
matter, I can't believe with the amount

1688
02:15:56.880 --> 02:16:01.479
of deterioration I had that it took
the pain. I just can't. I

1689
02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:05.960
always tell you that that I was
blown away by it. Yeah, well,

1690
02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:07.960
you know in your case, and
we talked about that. You know,

1691
02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:11.479
you were at a pretty severe issue
with your back. You guys were

1692
02:16:11.479 --> 02:16:13.880
honest with me saying, yeah,
we can get rid of your pain maybe,

1693
02:16:13.920 --> 02:16:16.960
but we're not gonna get rid of
that condition, right. And we

1694
02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:20.319
have patients with all levels of degenerate
arthritis and other conditions and their joints,

1695
02:16:20.520 --> 02:16:24.399
and we'll be honest with them and
tell them, you know, based on

1696
02:16:24.439 --> 02:16:28.319
our experience, what percentage of improvement
we believe that they'll so experience. But

1697
02:16:28.479 --> 02:16:33.959
it never ceases to amaze me as
well, how bad somebody's deterioration can be

1698
02:16:33.079 --> 02:16:37.000
and we can eliminate the pain.
Here's why you don't get credit. Maybe

1699
02:16:37.719 --> 02:16:43.040
it happened three months later gradually,
and I was out of pain. And

1700
02:16:43.079 --> 02:16:48.559
then I said to my wife,
I'm out of pain, man, And

1701
02:16:48.600 --> 02:16:52.760
she said don't you remember because she
was with me? Right? She don't

1702
02:16:52.760 --> 02:16:56.159
you remember we were there? You
got stem cell? I mean, I

1703
02:16:56.840 --> 02:17:01.280
joel. It sometimes is so subtle
afterwards, people aren't connecting it with the

1704
02:17:01.319 --> 02:17:05.639
treatment. They're expecting your treatment to
work two weeks later. In some cases

1705
02:17:05.639 --> 02:17:07.239
it does well. Okay, okay, you know, it's just it really

1706
02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:11.280
depends on the patient. We tell
patients, you know, it takes about

1707
02:17:11.639 --> 02:17:15.600
thirty days before you start really noticing
some significant effects. But that being said,

1708
02:17:15.600 --> 02:17:16.840
we have a thirty to ninety I
would say, right, is not

1709
02:17:18.000 --> 02:17:20.239
unusual? Or is that too way
longer? It also is dependent on the

1710
02:17:20.239 --> 02:17:22.959
body part two. Oh, so
the lower back because there's not as much

1711
02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:26.040
blood flow as there are to take
long the other joints. It does take

1712
02:17:26.120 --> 02:17:30.959
longer for people to notice results.
But we're talking about a knee or a

1713
02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:33.920
hip, which are our bread and
butter joints. I have a silly question,

1714
02:17:33.079 --> 02:17:35.479
and again this is a silly question. We're running out of time.

1715
02:17:35.559 --> 02:17:37.959
So I was thinking, you know, I work out, I still get

1716
02:17:37.959 --> 02:17:41.879
ags and pains. Everyone does,
right, Can it help with normal ags

1717
02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:45.879
and pains? Or you don't recommend
it? It's only for deteriorated condition.

1718
02:17:45.959 --> 02:17:48.840
No, absolutely. The sooner you
get on top of regenerating your joints,

1719
02:17:48.840 --> 02:17:52.319
the less pain you have to obture, and the less degeneration you're Denverregen dot

1720
02:17:52.360 --> 02:17:54.879
com. We're out of time.
By the way, thanks for being here.

1721
02:17:54.959 --> 02:17:58.120
Back here tomorrow and remember three all
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1722
02:17:58.159 --> 02:18:03.360
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