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All right, Billy Cunningham, The
Grand America is back in about thirty minutes.

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I will discuss where I've been in
the past two weeks and the impact

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you said. If you're on my
Twitter accounting all you had a pretty good

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idea what happened and involved me riding
a camel. That's all I can say.

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And the People's Judge also in the
back of a camel. Coming up

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later is Jilly Gunlock of the Independent
Women's Form and more and Brian Hamrick.

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Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian, if you ever warned,

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ever ever got on the back of
a camel and just went nuts on

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the back of a camera? Ever
ever do that? Thanks again, mister

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Cunningham. No, I do not
believe I had been on the back of

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a camel. What'd you get on
the back of a camel if you had

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to? But if you didn't have
one help, I would do it,

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especially if I needed that mode of
transportation. They still the camel was still

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a viable mode of transportation in some
parts of the world, and I think

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it's still the best way to get
around in some places. Well, if

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you're in a desert area, there's
nothing like a camel. And this camel,

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of course, he had some flatulence
and some spitting, but other than

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the spitting and the flatulence, it
was a good camel. And a little

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story before we talk about uptown rental
property, and also what happened in Norwood

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is that, of course, I'm
on the Mount of Olives. I'm looking

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my right. There's downtown, the
dome, and there's the old city.

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And this guy went like a little
parking lot area, beautiful area of Jerusalem.

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And the camel driver comes up and
there's this huge truck and out the

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back of the truck down the ramp
comes a camel and I I'm in a

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cigarette. I'm in a camel.
And he's yelling who want to ride my

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camel? Who want to ride my
camel? And I said how much is

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it? He said twenty bucks?
I said twenty bucks. He then said

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two for twenty. I said,
I get two for twenty. And I'm

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a small group of twenty people from
Cincinnati, and I say, who wants

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to ride the camel? And the
back of the crowd, I hear a

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familiar voice. I'll do it,
and I turn around. There comes my

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one, Penny Cunningham from the back
of the crowd. I said, Penny,

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I call her Fred. I said, Fred, are you serious?

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She said absolutely. I've never ridden
a camel, and Penny's not the adventurous

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type. I didn't think. So
she gets on the back of the camel

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and he says, you want to
let go, And he let go of

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the camel, and Penny's riding the
camel around a parking lot, heading toward

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the amount of olives. At this
point, I say, Mohammed, go

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get that camel. Get that camel
back here. He wasn't yelled at it,

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turned around, came back. She
got off the camel. People are

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dying laughing. I get on the
back of the camel and I was looking

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good. But nonetheless, assuming you've
never ridden a camel, believe me,

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they're much better than riding a horse. But you had a great story the

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other day about what happened in Montgomery
on Montgomery Road in Norwood and also the

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uptown rental property shooting also in Springdale. But tell us the story of these

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two women who popped the car thinking
they were getting off and what happened if

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anything. Yeah, well, apparently
the car was stolen, according to the

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police, somewhere down on Sixth Street
downtown. Uh, it got spotted up

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by the Norwood Lateral. There's a
four fresh is there right on Montgomery Road.

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Police apparently spotted it there, that's
right near the police station and and

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and turned on the light. They
started a chase. Police say they quickly

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realized that this car was going way
too fast to chase up Montgomery Road,

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and they they broke the chase off. I'm not exactly sure how far up

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they broke it off, but it
was still in sight whenever. Apparently the

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car didn't slow down, and when
it got up the road, we got

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a witness. Guy was driving with
his three year old daughter in the Brandon

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Freyer was driving northbound on the Montgomery
Road. He sees his car coming.

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It's swerving from one side apparently clipped
a rumkey truck, just barely clipped up.

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Not a lot of damage to the
rumpy, but it set that car

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out of control and the car went
across all the lanes of traffics from the

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lane is supposed to be going southbound, going across the northbound lanes of traffic.

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That's a four lane road there and
right into the path of Brandon prayer

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who's got his the little daughter in
the car with him. He has to

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avoid by going into the oncoming traffic
of southbound to avoid her because she's in

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the northbound lane. He unfortunately there
was nobody in that lane. The driver

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hits the curb on the northbound side, then ricochet's back over towards the VW

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dealership right there, smashes into the
front stairs a curb on that end,

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sends the car sideways and into some
poles that are sitting there, and ripped

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the car into two separate pieces.
They're actually three and four pieces of it

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to laying everywhere, but two main
separate pieces of this vehicle. Uh.

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There it screeches on to fire.
Uh to begin with, UM, and

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two people uh are are in the
vehicle. Uh, these two young ladies.

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They're they're able to UM pull them
out of the vehicle because it was

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concerned or making fire. Uh.
Police who were nearby run up to the

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scene. They start working on uh
this uh with the driver and uh,

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but it was to no avails.
She passed away. UM. The other

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drive. The other person that was
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But the victim, the young lady
who who died eighteen years old, or

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named Destiny Starks. She was um, you know the corner listed report today

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on her. She was just about
to graduate from Dawn High School. And

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so she had her whole really life
in front of her and and this,

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you know, decides to run,
taking off in this stolen car, and

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just a couple of poor choices from
an eighteen year old and had cost her

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life unfortunately. You know, I'm
reading your story that the driver, the

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innocent driver here, Brandon Prayer,
that's a good last name for him.

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He must have been saying one was
going north back in other horse, He's

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going from the Volkswagen dealership north toward
the freshes in the White Castle. And

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he said she quote, she was
coming at me head on. Man,

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I'm not gonna lie. I got
my baby in there. Man. I

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had to yank in on the upcoming
traffic. So he takes his vehicle from

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the northbound lang which on the right
side, he takes it into the left

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hand land in the south. Because
she was going close to one hundred miles

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an hour. He had to be
going. The police would only say high

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rate of speed, but in order
to chop a car in two with a

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telephone pole with a one of a
light pole, you have to be gone

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really fast. And here's the other
thing. Had that pole not stopped her,

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that intersect, that's a very er
Disney intersection there at the dealership.

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You know, Xavier has a bookstore, a place right across the street,

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some restaurants in that area, the
Bowling alleys right there. I mean,

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it's very busy. She may have
gone right through that intersection without stopping.

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And you know, fortunate for whoever
may have been in that intersection, because

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if she did that to her car
on a pole, you can only imagine

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what would happen if she'd hit another
vehicle. We do we know that destiny

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starts. Who was driving or was
a passing? Was what she had?

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The passenger or the driver? Do
we know? The police have not said,

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but the recording from what I've been
able to get from witnesses, I

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believe that she was the driver and
the other the passenger so to speak,

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another young female. I assume it's
a serious or critical condition. Yeah.

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That when the police said at last
gave us the update on her, they

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said they had severe injuries and they
were life threatening injuries to both of them

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and the one passed away, and
witness has told us that the one the

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pass and dur had been they was
making some some sounds, so they had

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some hope that she may survive.
But the other one, they were concerned

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about her from the very second that
the accident was over. Um, So,

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yeah, there's hope for the other
one. But according to police,

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it's very serious injuries. Nor would
police chase the stolen vehicle on Monday afternoon?

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It's the story and this race is
again the issue whether police should be

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chasing vehicles like this, and and
you're damned if you do, and damned

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if you don't, because you don't
know who's in that vehicle. You don't

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know what's going on. But on
the other hand, to chase vehicles down

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Montgomery Road and Monday afternoon, Memorial
Day afternoon, that's a that's a serious

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situation. Have you discussed with Norwood
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Yeah, well, you know,
I talked to him about that yesterday

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and they said that this happened like
very shortly. The whole distance is maybe

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a mile from that Volkswagen dealership where
the crash was to the frishes down on

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Montgomery Road, that it's maybe a
mile, but they said this chase did

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not last long because they quickly realized
that it was too dangerous. So I'm

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not sure they didn't know exactly where
they cut it off, but I did

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hear on the audio from that We
got the radio traffic, and you could

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hear they did cut that trace off
because you can hear one of the officers

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saying, hey, we're gonna break
the chase something like that because too fast.

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I'm not sure what point that happened, but police say it was before

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the crash and that they could still
see the vehicle in the distance, but

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it had gotten away, but the
car didn't slow down. And like you

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said, where the chase ends and
where the person driving knows the chase ends.

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You know that that's all part of
that discussion. I think tough call

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either way. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, and we'll

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see what happens. At least the
responsible parties are the ones that have suffered

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most of the injuries because if stealing
a Toyota Corolla, I guess in the

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downtown area they were joy riding,
went up to Norwood, probably got on

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the lateral got off there on Montgomery
Road and they were picked up as stolen

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and away we go, and two
lives have been profoundly affected, one dead,

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one in serious condition. Another thing
I monitored from AFAR was the uptown

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rental shooting of Nicholas Kernan. And
many times you think allowing a landscape or

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someone spreading mulch for uptown rental properties
is not in the game in a sense,

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I cannot imagine too many individuals spreading
mulch in the UC Clifton area have

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lots of money in their pocket.
And as we sit there this afternoon on

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Tuesday, I don't think it's someone's
been apprehended, but this is a this

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is a big case. But it's
a working man who was murdered, shot

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in the head at work spreading mulch
during the afternoon. Said what do we

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know about Nicholas Kernan's murder at this
point, Yeah, well, they're still

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trying to figure out exactly what happened
there and why. Nobody seems to be

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able to come up with a reason
why someone would want to murder this guy.

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He's apparently on the job at work. Everybody had talked to says a

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great guy, nicest guy ever wanted
to meet. He eats and what he

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does. He goes to work and
he and he gets his stuff done.

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And he's a respected landscaper and he's
working for Uptown properties, and they had

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nothing but good things to say about
him. We talked to family members that

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it was the same thing with him. He's got a twin brother. They

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would have celebrated her forty fourth birthday
together on Monday yesterday. They go to

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a dirt track somewhere and have a
big time, and they said that they

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had all the plans to do that
and then suddenly, you know this.

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He's shot to death for no apparent
reason and a police at this point aren't

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speculating. There had been some talk
that this may have been a robbery,

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but police aren't cooperating that, so
nobody really knows what the motive was or

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why this person who shot him,
though apparently got away. We were told

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maybe went up university. It sounds
like the police may have video of this

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person. They didn't say that,
but just talking to them reading between the

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lines, they may. They may. They haven't said exactly what they have,

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but they're certainly looking for anyone else
who has video and thinks they may

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have captured something at the time of
that murderer to let them know, because

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they liked to piece this together and
maybe you know, they'll go for a

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mile and find where did this guy
go and did he you know, go

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down this alley and then turn this
way? What direction was he going home?

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You know, what was he wearing? Did he get something to you

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know what that kind of thing was
all part of what they're looking at.

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Well, the thing is, uh, I think I'm town rental propertiessician a

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ten thousand dollars reward. I'm kind
of surprised it's been several days now and

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the police have not released a video
or description of the perpetrator. It's normally,

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okay, this is what the guy
looks like, this is what he

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was wearing, had on gold pants, had a white T shirt or whatever,

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and that you get it, get
that out quickly immediately, so these

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things get cold in a hurry.
And I'm wondering why the police haven't released

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the video. You know, I
asked him about that, and you know,

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uh, Captain the Saunders is now
in charge up there. He's he's

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got it together, you know,
he knows what he's doing. They saw

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all the lot of these. He
wouldn't go into any details. I mean,

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he just basically said, look,
we're just not to the point where

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we can release anything yet, which
you know, which that's what he said

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to me, So, you know, but that tells me that either they

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don't have hardly anything or they are
they're not to a point where they can

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release it because they've got other investigation
type things going on, like maybe they

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got an idea who this is,
maybe they're tracking it down, or maybe

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they have nothing that they can release. You know, it could be one

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or the other. But I have
to wonder if they don't have a few

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leads on this person, and maybe
they'll be able to track them down,

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and maybe they're just waiting for the
right minute to do it, and they

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may not want to say anything because
maybe you know, I'm just talking in

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generalities. You know, sometimes they'll
have a person they don't want to let

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that person know they got something because
they don't want them to ditch something that

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they have, you know, or
some evidence that they get rid of,

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and so that in the past,
I've seen them do that, But I

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have no idea, you know,
they're holding their cards too close at this

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point to know. You're looking at
a picture of a jigsaw puzzle and you've

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got about four pieces, and it's
man, anything could happen in those other

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pieces. Now. Lastly, you
know a story about twelve days ago about

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about Michael Sweeney, seventy one years
old or well known business leader and also

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a car dealer, worked in the
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And Sweeney was in some sort of
alleged road rage incident. It was in

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a Nissan Autumn with two women age
forty five and fifty seven. It weren't

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shot, but allegedly someone pulled up
alongside and shot him twice, once in

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the head, once in the neck, and of course Michael Sweeney died immediately

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at the scene. At this point, I'm told by police they do not

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have video and the case is almost
called from the beginning. They don't know

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what happened. Anything new on that
one. They haven't released anything on that.

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That's a bizarre That is a very
bizarre story there. And I don't

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know, you know, just trying
to piece all this thing together. You

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know, it came out as road
rage, as if there was some kind

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of an incident on the highway that
you know, created this situation where somebody

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just pulled out this gun and started
firing, And that may be what happened,

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you know, but there may be
there may be other ends and maybe,

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you know, I don't know what
if there was some altercation before they

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ever got on the road and this
was just somebody catching up with them,

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and people that were there, you
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to something that else had happened.
So there's a lot of loose ends on

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that one. And what really happened. I think that's going to be one

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of those truth stranger than fiction kind
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the things just didn't seem to add
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story the other day, it seemed
like there might be more to that or

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something else happened by a random road
rage. But maybe it is a sant

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X graduate in the car business forever
and I had a couple of cops tell

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me more is coming, and it
makes me think maybe there was something else

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other than road rage that was going
on. But and the absence of facts,

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speculation runs rampant, and h we'll
see what happens Cincinnatis, like these

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other cities. Watch CNN and Fox
News this morning it was mayhem all over

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the place on beaches and Myrtle Beach, Chicago. Fifty people shot in the

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city of Chicago, Huntington Beach,
California, Cincinnati. Three shot in a

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bar this morning. In Springdale.
You have the murder of Nicholas Kernan.

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You have what happened to Michael Sweeney, you have what Destiny starks in that

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crowd and Brandon Prayer must have been
saying a prayer that he's still with us

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today. And just you and I've
been around a long time. Doesn't it

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seem there's more mayhem than ever before? Or are you? Are we reporting

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on it more? You know,
that's the question, is there more?

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Are there more shootings or are we
just covering it? We're more aware of

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them because they seem to happen,
and we get you know, get out.

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I know, when I was a
kid, you know, we never

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thought about mass murders or killers or
anything like that, but there were a

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lot of them around. There was
a there's a very bizarre and interesting story

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from back in West Virginia where I'm
from, Morgantown. There was a horrific

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murder of two college co eds.
And there's a great podcast on this thing.

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As you google up like WVU co
ed murders, there's like an eight

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hour podcast. If you like those
true crime things, there's none better than

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this one. But it details what
happened. And they get into the thing

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and they're saying when they tried to
find out these two young ladies have been

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beheaded, it was so bizarre,
so grizzly that at the time, when

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I was a kid when this happened, that adults talked about it in hushed

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tones and I thought it was an
urban legend for a while, but it

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was not. But I say that
to say, when they went to try

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and find who may have done this
unbelievably gruesome crime, there were so many

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people that had been cutting the heads
off of victims that they couldn't sort of

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throw them all, and it made
it really difficult to you know. So

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I don't think we have as many
of those trying to murder. But I'm

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out there my bike around you know, we didn't think there is going on.

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They just weren't aware. But it
was more prevalent than apparently than it

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is now. Wow, I wanted. I've always wanted to see the Old

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West. You know, we think
about how this is like the wild West.

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I wonder if the wild West was
as wild is what we're seeing right

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now with all these shootings. We
may be, you know, like old

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boy, I'd be afraid of travel
Walton, the old wild West. But

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we may be living worse than they
had. And I've never seen a comparison

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though. All right, Brian Hemrick, once again, death, disease,

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destruction, Mayham and be headings everywhere, and once again, thank you for

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coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thanks again, mister Huntingham. Bran Hemrick,

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