WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:04.919 Karen, Yes, what if instead of learning about a new modality or talking 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:10.240 about another awakening ceremony today, what if we explored the possibility that we've got 3 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:14.919 all the tools and wisdom inside of us already right now? That would be 4 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:18.640 pretty amazing, right, I mean, let's go a little deeper or not? 5 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.600 What if our bodies weren't just these meat suits that we walk around in 6 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:25.440 all day? You know, I've never liked the term meat suit? Can 7 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.800 we call it something else? I came neither confirm nor deny that that might 8 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:32.640 be the reason why I said the word meat suits. Okay, if our 9 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:37.159 bodies weren't just as our guests calls them, space suits that we walk around 10 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:41.159 in, but rather actually leading the way for us? Like, what if 11 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:45.119 they were the most spiritual thing about us? So like the opposite of what 12 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:49.439 everybody else says, well kinds order. Yeah, So, today's guest feels 13 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:53.159 that we can learn to tune into our bodies wisdom, energy, and emotions 14 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:58.960 to accelerate our growth more than ever before. She believes that our bodies are 15 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:02.799 on the spiritual journey as much as we are, and in fact, she 16 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:07.680 says that without our bodies, there would be no journey at all. Well, 17 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.319 this fascinating concept is what we're diving into in this episode of the Skeptic 18 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.959 Metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'm Gar and unlike Molder and Scully, 19 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.239 both want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. We've 20 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.359 talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves 21 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:27.760 into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches and wait, 22 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:32.480 you joined a coven, yep, all on the interests of finding something, 23 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:36.719 anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, three dimensional world 24 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:48.879 we all live in. This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. And now back to 25 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:56.359 the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey, there's Will, Yep. I have something else 26 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:57.840 in my mind before we get started with the interview. I wanted to talk 27 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:02.599 about something with you. You see, most people know that Karen and I 28 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.599 are all about service to others. In every spiritual book, every spiritual teacher, 29 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.680 every message that you get, everybody is saying how important it is to 30 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:15.240 be a service to others. And in fact, in my life I've noticed 31 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:20.759 that the more I'm in service to others, the more positive things happen to 32 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:24.680 me. The less I think about myself and more about others, the more 33 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:29.280 good things come to me as a result. It just makes sense. It's 34 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.080 an energy exchange. The more energy you give to someone, the more energy 35 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:36.400 comes back to you. Right, whether you're Pagan than you believe in the 36 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.599 law of three which says that whatever you send out to universe, you get 37 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:44.639 back to you three times, or you believe in law of karma that says 38 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.280 what you give out you receive. Almost every thought process out there talks about 39 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:52.759 this energy exchange. The giving of something is what you get in return. 40 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:55.759 So I've been trying to live my life for the last few years with that 41 00:02:55.879 --> 00:03:01.039 thought foremost in my mind, and it's been truly a wonderful experience. It's 42 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:07.719 been eye opening, it's been wonderful, truly wonderful to see, for example, 43 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.919 the success of this show. The more we are in service to you, 44 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:15.719 the listener out there, the more that the show grows, and it's 45 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:20.479 been wonderful. So I want to live my life with that thought process in 46 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.560 mind at all times. But very recently, some of you may know, 47 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:28.400 I underwent difficult period of my professional life where I didn't feel like I was 48 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.479 treated the way that I felt I should have been treated. Now I completely 49 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:37.879 understand that's a totally ego driven, judgmental thought process, and I understand where 50 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.400 it comes from. But I won't go into that here. Just know that 51 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:45.280 I understand and I recognize it's not how I should have thought about the whole 52 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:51.719 process. But no matter how much I focus on spirituality, come on, 53 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.840 let's face it, I'm still just a human being just like everyone else, 54 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:59.479 and I'm learning. I'm on this path of learning and discovery just like you. 55 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.599 So petty things like that, like not getting a job that I felt 56 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:06.319 I was perfect for, still affect me as much as I don't want them 57 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:11.800 to. So in this case, it affected me in a very very very 58 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.080 hard way, and it's almost like a sort of PTSD where I'm having a 59 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.160 hard time shaking it. I meditate every day, I focus on the teachings, 60 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.920 I have interviews with wonderful spiritual people that help me put things in perspective. 61 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:27.040 Friends that I value very much remind me of things like the Surrender experiment 62 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.720 and being of service to others. In all those thought processes, and it 63 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.439 works for a bit, but I always seem to fall back, and I'm 64 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:40.399 finding that I'm falling into a more ego driven, self serving day to day 65 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:45.040 decision making process, and i have to admit that I'm not liking myself these 66 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:50.240 days again as much. So I'm trying to keep myself focused on service to 67 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:56.519 others again. So I'm writing these concepts on sticky notes, and I'm putting 68 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.160 them everywhere on my computer, in the kitchen and my bathroom mirror, were 69 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.600 everywhere anywhere that can see them, just so i can remind myself the importance 70 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:09.120 of understanding and really knowing and living the fact that I'm not here to serve 71 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:13.560 myself. I'm here to serve others. And if there's anything I can do 72 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.639 to serve others, that is a focus that I need to follow, that 73 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:19.600 I want to follow. So, friends, if you feel lost, like 74 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:25.000 I somewhat am right now, I invite you to change your focus, to 75 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.920 put your sticky notes everywhere, remind yourself over and over again of the right 76 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.560 way to move forward, the way that you know is the right way to 77 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:39.319 move forward, and be kind to yourself, give yourself grace in understanding because 78 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.639 we all know we do live in this three dimensional world. We are in 79 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:48.759 these physical bodies and our minds have been programmed for such a long time that 80 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:53.079 it's going to take some doing for us to get beyond it. So be 81 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:58.199 kind to yourself, forgive yourself, and when you fall, just get back 82 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.040 up again take the next step, just like I'm trying to do now. 83 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.160 Thanks for listening, guys, It's really helped to get this off my chest. 84 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:13.240 Hey there, I'm willing, and today we're excited to welcome Lauren Shell 85 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.120 and Tani to the show. Like many people, Lauren has spent a good 86 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:20.920 portion of her life feeling like a victim to her body and emotions, haven't 87 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:25.759 we all. Now, she since realized that there's a way to harness our 88 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:30.160 sovereign power through the body, and she's developed a method that incorporates breathwork, 89 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:35.040 movement, and visualization to unleash that energy so we can reclaim our unlimited power. 90 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:40.959 Now, Lauren helps folks to harness the power of their emotions in order 91 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:46.040 to manifest their calling with passion and purpose. I cannot be more excited to 92 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.000 welcome Lauren Sheellentani to the show. Lauren, thank you so much. For 93 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:53.199 coming on. Oh, thank you so much for having le honest such an 94 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.040 honor to talk about this meat, I mean space suits with you today. 95 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.000 I'm gonna like our conversation. All right, Lord, I can tell this 96 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.000 is awesome. Okay, lots and lots and lots of questions comes to mind, 97 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:09.040 But the very first thing that I need to ask you is how is 98 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:14.160 it that our bodies could possibly be on a spiritual journey? You hear about 99 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.439 our souls doing all this, but are our bodies different than us? Like, 100 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.199 how does that work? Well, as you guys know, we're in 101 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:26.279 this three V reality and without these bodies. You know my belief and what 102 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:30.920 I've experienced, and what all the great teachers say is that we need this 103 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:35.600 body to be able to feel because in this world of duality or contrast, 104 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:41.360 we are able to learn at a faster rate than we would at a soul 105 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:46.639 level or not in a physical or a dense type of reality. And an 106 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:53.800 embodiment in this body. So looking at our bodies not as something that's in 107 00:07:53.920 --> 00:08:00.399 the way, whether it's chronic disease or disease in your body, whether it's 108 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:05.199 an emotion, whether it's acne, whatever plagues you, quote unquote, it's 109 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:11.120 really here to help teach you that your body is not in the way, 110 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.560 it's leading the way. And my journey really started out, you know, 111 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.720 in years of chronic digestion issues, and then when I graduated from university, 112 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.279 I had my first panic attack ever, and that led to years of chronic 113 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.879 anxiety, and I was kind of confused of you know what that was going 114 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:35.200 on with me and this body. Now, retrospectively, hindsight's always twenty twenty. 115 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.679 I now know my body was awakening and it was telling me I had 116 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.120 created this life that wasn't my life. Up until that point, I was 117 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.240 the good girl. I had the good grades, I went to a good 118 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.399 university, got a degree, and then had a job lined up literally like 119 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.120 the next week after this graduation ceremony, and my body was like, hold 120 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:01.279 up, hold hold up, this is not what you're meant for. But 121 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.039 at the time, you know, I'm just like losing my shit. It's 122 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:09.919 just never experienced anything like that, and I want a very um three D 123 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:13.960 approach. You know, at the time I was in my early twenties, 124 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.759 I really wasn't into all this woo stuff. If you will that I say 125 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:22.360 very lovingly. So wait, like last year then, yeah, because you 126 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.440 do not than a decade ago plus? Thank you? Yeah, well, 127 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.440 what are you doing with your body? Is working out? It's because I 128 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.399 love her. I love this body. She's on a journey with me here. 129 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.360 So you know, you gotta love the meat suit. That's just going 130 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:41.320 to keep coming up. Go Carris is the raw meaters it cook. I 131 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.320 got to make a difference. I'm sorry. The day depends on the day. 132 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.840 I do live in southern Florida, so it depends on which sun I 133 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.960 got. So yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, so let me ask 134 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.159 you a question really quickly. Because you're talking about your body and anxiety attacks 135 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:58.879 and things like that, A lot of people actually assign that to our minds. 136 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.840 Now, are you you separating those two or is that one and the 137 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.759 same for you? I think the way that I access me personally, and 138 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:11.679 I think it's kind of lost in terms of in the awakening community, especially 139 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.200 divine feminine energy is being going through the body to connect with the divine, 140 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.159 to connect with your mind, to connect with that subconscious part of you, 141 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.799 rather than going out in the body, let's say, in a meditation and 142 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:30.480 overcoming the mind through just letting go. But what I have found is listening 143 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:37.240 to the body, my emotions of physical sensations, that I can allow whatever 144 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.360 is coming up to go deep into that physical part of it and kind of 145 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.679 open up and move that energy and always, always, always on the other 146 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:50.519 side of it, there's this wisdom. So for me, I don't think 147 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:54.480 they're two separate things in the way that one's good one's bad. For me, 148 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.960 it was always so much easier intuitively. This was my gift, I 149 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.679 think to go through it through the body. You know, I've spent years 150 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:07.559 meditating and I love that, but for me, the quickest way to get 151 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.679 there is through the body, which is this is why I love breathwork and 152 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:16.480 movements so much, is because we tend to get stuck in our heads and 153 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:22.039 where we've lost the sense of being present in our bodies and in the present 154 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.120 moment. That's where our power lies, that's where our awareness and that lies. 155 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.759 So when we can start to build the awareness of what our body is 156 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.480 telling us, and that includes those thoughts and emotions, that's when we know 157 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.720 we can we can figure out when you know, when we're lost in the 158 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:37.360 future or in the past, or just you know, lost in our head 159 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:43.360 and we can start to dive into really what's coming up by just being present 160 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.919 and allowing those sensations, whether it's emotional or physical. So I don't know, 161 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.840 I think that kind of answered what you were going for there, just 162 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.120 a different way to get there. I think, yeah, no, you 163 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.080 did. It's just for me. When I've had my anxiety attacks, I 164 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.679 went to a shrink, right, So I didn't work on my body, 165 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.080 worked on my mind. So to me, I always say that we are 166 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.919 a three body problem. We are mind, body, and spirit, and 167 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:11.039 so this kind of meshes two of them together in a sort of way that 168 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.080 I hadn't heard of before. That's all yeah, yeah, and luckily, 169 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.399 you know, luckily, or maybe not so luckily, everything's happening for me. 170 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.000 Right my family, there was such a stigma of mental health that I 171 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.120 didn't really end up going the traditional route. So I think it was more 172 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.960 like through my body, just intuitively even then, that I figured out how 173 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:35.639 to work through this and be able to feel those emotions and be led by 174 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.559 myself, which is my body who's guiding me, rather than you know, 175 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:43.799 sometimes going to therapy or having a coach or a guru. What I'm so 176 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.840 passionate about is why I love working with this beautiful thing called my body, 177 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:54.440 which is me. I get to listen and trust myself and learn these skills 178 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.120 rather than trying to look outside of myself or somebody to tell me what to 179 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.240 do, which you know is a huge part of my lesson. Sometimes that 180 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.039 might resonate with people, sometimes it might not, But to learning to be 181 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.320 your own sovereign being, which means having, you know, realizing that you 182 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.639 do create your reality, and that you do get to choose what you think 183 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:18.559 and what you believe and how you feel when it comes back to being present 184 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.919 and allowing and listening to what's coming up for you. So, what about 185 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:28.360 chronic pain no, you know, like back pain or knee pain or anything 186 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.960 like that. Is that your body telling you you need to do something? 187 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:35.080 Or is that you know a result of I don't know, working out and 188 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.799 improperly or the environment or something you ate? Yeah, for me. So 189 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.840 I started health coaching when I started getting into this years ago, and what 190 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.480 I found to go a little bit around what you just asked and circle back, 191 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:52.000 is so many of these women I was coaching knew what foods felt good 192 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:58.080 in their body. They knew they love moving their bodies, exercise, yoga, 193 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.600 pilates, but they're having all these chronic issues like digestive issues, migraines, 194 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:07.480 and fertility issues. And what I found I was teaching these women was 195 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.759 just, you know, basics of law of attraction, basics of mindfulness, 196 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:15.919 of being able to take a second to be present with your body when you're 197 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:20.879 eating, when you're moving, and not just rushing through life and doing three 198 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:26.519 things at once. And that was able to solve pretty much every single problem 199 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.480 that these women were having. And that's when I realized, Okay, I 200 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:35.200 really need to start transitioning into more this embodiment manifestation work. It's not just 201 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.200 about the body. And for me, you know, I've been on this 202 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.519 journey and whether it's anxiety or other chronic issues or diagnoses in my body. 203 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:48.519 Even a few years ago, further along on this journey, realizing this, 204 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.279 teaching this, getting a diagnosis, I was like, oh my gosh, 205 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.279 this is first. You know, you feel the fear of whatever's coming up 206 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.159 with the diagnosis, of what you think is going to happen. And then 207 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.039 and I realize, okay, wow, my body is always leading the way. 208 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:07.919 So just like my emotions, my physical body is also telling me something 209 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.919 too. It's just showing me. Just like Abraham talks about, if you 210 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:16.440 guys are law of attraction ers listening. Here the emotional guidance scale, our 211 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.159 emotions and our body, which is a more physical, dense part of energy, 212 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.519 teach us. Are we aligned with our inner being, our source that, 213 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:30.240 you know, the divine part of us, the universe, whatever you 214 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.519 want to call it, whatever the name you like to give it. So 215 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:39.799 when a physical thing happens Joe, when Joe's there, and are we aligned 216 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.679 or not? So a physical thing for me, it's just an opportunity to 217 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:48.919 say, Wow, there was this relief system, this energy pattern, something 218 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:54.440 that's been there so either at the forefront or maybe in the background for so 219 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.919 long, has come into this physical manifestation. Here's a beautiful opportunity to get 220 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.200 me to change. Our bodies are in the way, they are leading the 221 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.519 way. I know I keep saying that, But when something like a cancer 222 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:14.080 diagnosis or already immune something or these big, these big diagnosis come up, 223 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:17.639 it's really an opportunity for you to take a look and say, Okay, 224 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.440 what have I been doing? What can I do? Differently. That includes 225 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:23.080 how I look at my body, what I think, how I feel. 226 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:26.679 Yes, maybe clean up the diet, the three D thing too, But 227 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.600 you know your body's weight and kale's not going to save you if you're still 228 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.480 stuck in fight or flight, or if you're still resisting all of this energy, 229 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:41.000 or you're not feeling what's coming up, because you know, our bodies 230 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.080 are going to move the energy in the way of least resistance, and sometimes 231 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:49.600 for me, my body loves to do that through my skin and through the 232 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:53.279 acne or whatever comes up. So if I'm moving a lot of energy or 233 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.559 making being shifts in my life, my skin will just start to break out 234 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:03.840 everywhere I move country. Over a year ago, started a new relationship really 235 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.720 restarted my life and my skin. I breaking out worse than a teenager, 236 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:14.160 worse than my pre pubescent self. And I was so judgmental of myself at 237 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.880 the time, but I was like, oh my gosh, my body is 238 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:22.240 helping clearing out all that old energy that I just physically decided to shift in 239 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:26.279 my life. Still helping me. And as I started to talk to myself, 240 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.279 talk to my body, I work with my body and say thank you 241 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.880 so much for helping me. I'm so grateful that you are always leading the 242 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.839 way, and not only you're guiding me, but it's also you're helping me 243 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:41.400 because energy is still going to move in the way of least resistance, and 244 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:45.119 sometimes it's physical. And as soon as I started to do that, my 245 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.759 skin just almost cleared up overnight. But it was when I was resisting, 246 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:56.359 when I was judging and not allowing everything to happen, is when it kept 247 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:00.759 persisting. Because what we resist will persist. So I started my journey really 248 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.160 helping people with the more physical stuff, which I love, but I love 249 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:08.519 to also talk about the emotional aspect of that because so many people on their 250 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:15.200 awakening journeys might be, you know, wanting to work with their Kundalini or 251 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.960 you know, work with this their energy and tune into this. But if 252 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:22.079 you don't have a foundation of being comfortable in your body, trusting your body, 253 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:27.200 allowing it to become into the present moment and really build that momentum, 254 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:33.359 yes maybe you start to awaken that Kundali energy. But it is so much 255 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:37.880 easier when you can have that foundation of trust and ease and allowing and not 256 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:42.279 really understanding that your body is leading the way. So yes, chronic pain 257 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:48.880 is something that you can look at and you know, not so much a 258 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.160 three D way. What is this teaching me? Maybe it's asking yourself, 259 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:55.119 do I need to slow down? Do I need to be more mindful when 260 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.720 I move? It just really depends on what's coming up for you. A 261 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:03.759 really good resources you know Louise Hey, she has written a beautiful book, 262 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.400 You Can Heal your Body, and it's a little excerpt from You Can Heal 263 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:12.240 Your Life, and it talks about many metaphysical causes of these physical issues, 264 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:15.599 and that's a great place to start. Nine times out of ten, it's 265 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.359 spot on of what I'm feeling or the emotion or belief underneath it. If 266 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:23.279 it doesn't resonate for you, leave it and move on. That's a beautiful 267 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:27.200 resource on if you do have something chronic coming up to kind of start to 268 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:32.359 take a look, Okay, what am I feeling? Maybe what is that 269 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:38.440 belief underneath these symptoms or these physical manifestations to help you to start to trust 270 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:45.680 that body and start to understand that everything, even these physical ailments or manifestations 271 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.039 are here to get you to look at yourself, to get you to look 272 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.759 at your life to get you to look at this journey in a different way 273 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.480 than you were. Cancer is here because it's the inability for people to grow. 274 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.799 So it forces you to wake up and say, oh, okay, 275 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.319 what am I doing of my life? What patterns? Maybe it's something that's 276 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:10.880 quote unquote hereditary? What patterns were people my family who've had this before did? 277 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.559 And I get this opportunity to become a totally different person, the person 278 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.039 that is me and not somebody who is you know, just programmed to be 279 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.720 like my family. So in terms of physical stuff, yep, that's what 280 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:27.440 I would start. But I love working with the emotions and people who really 281 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:32.559 want to jump start their energy journey who know that they're here for more. 282 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.519 And you know that's my journey is like what am I here to give back? 283 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:40.160 And it's really coming back to the body and being able to listen and 284 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.880 it'll guide the way. So do you not think that our environment plays a 285 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:47.519 role in our physical like I'm talking about specifically cancer? Yeah, I mean 286 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:51.599 we're reading that we're having all this plastic in our bodies, and the oxyde 287 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:53.119 the error is so polluted, and the water is polluted and the fish have 288 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.559 mercury and everything. So do you think that that doesn't play a part. 289 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:03.920 I think it does. But you know, I trust that when I am 290 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.480 aligned with myself online a source and I am in a state of rest and 291 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.680 relax and my energy is just flowing really strong, that my immune system right 292 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.920 is going to really be able to fight off a lot of those things. 293 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.680 You know, Listen, I don't I eat very very healthy. I minimize 294 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:22.000 all those things in my life, but some things we just have to, 295 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.839 you know, we can't avoid, like pollution for something, you know, 296 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.559 depending on where you live. And I do think that you know, you 297 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:33.160 need to treat your body with respect, whether it's you know, the quality 298 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:38.599 of water you drink, the quality of foods or skincare products. I do 299 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.319 think that you know you need to respect your body. But I also think 300 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.880 that, you know, I do create my reality, and I need to 301 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:52.839 also, even more so take a look at these beliefs and the energy underlying 302 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.559 inside of me, because it's an opportunity for me to heal and release something 303 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.519 that's maybe been with me for many lifetimes. But this is my opportunity to 304 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.440 really change and step into more of who I really am. I love everything 305 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.240 you're saying brings up a lot of questions. But before I get into it, 306 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.839 it feels like you're saying when you say your body has the answers, 307 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:17.880 it's almost like it's not just our bodies, it's our minds, it's our 308 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:21.839 being, it's it's our three dimensional personalities. Lack of our better word. 309 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.240 Right, But then you keep talking about feminine energy and helping women and all 310 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:27.799 these kinds of things, and we're getting into the sovereign sisterhood and all kinds 311 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:33.000 of suff in a minute. But just to clarify, this is just as 312 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:37.599 good for men as it is for women. Right This pertains to whoever you 313 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.519 are. It's not just women that get affected by this that can take benefit 314 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.480 from doing these kinds of things. I just want to confirm that right now, 315 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:48.920 one hundred percent. I think women are more so naturally, and I 316 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.640 think I see so many brothers awakening to their true selves and their callings right 317 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:57.039 now. But women with the physical aspect. You know, obviously I'm a 318 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:03.519 woman, and how I servrate this energy is very feminine aspect. Men, 319 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.720 you know, and other women you might understand this and do it through a 320 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:12.359 more physical way, like working out or you know something in a different way, 321 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.599 but we all can access this wisdom, whether it's through a runner's high 322 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:21.680 or that post yoga bliss like this is the kind of wisdom I'm talking about, 323 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:25.559 is moving through the body in order to connect to that higher part of 324 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:29.279 that divine part of you. So it doesn't matter what sects you would identify 325 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.359 with, what energy you identify with, this is a universal truth. It 326 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.680 is more naturally I would say feminine in its aspect because it's through the body 327 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.599 embodiment and a masculine approach to the same thing as you know, kind of 328 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.160 going outside of the body meditation and that aspect. But you know, it 329 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:49.359 really doesn't matter. We have both energies, So whatever works for you exactly. 330 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:52.640 And that's kind of where I was going where I'm a man, but 331 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.319 I have a lot of feminine energy in me. Where I know Karen is 332 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:56.880 a woman, she has a lot of masculine energy. And it's perfectly we 333 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.720 go in and out. There's a flux. So if you're dude, listen 334 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.880 to this thing. Don't let this all throw yet. This is just as 335 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.359 good. Don't don't tune out, don't don't hit the stop button. This 336 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.799 is good for you as well as for the women. We need to take 337 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.559 a break, so we're gonna take a pause, just a quick few minutes. 338 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.720 Stay with us. Can When we come back, we're going to talk 339 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.920 to Lauren about how to now that we've talked about the importance of doing it, 340 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:23.039 how to now connect with the body so that we can be more in 341 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:26.519 tune with what we need. Stay with us, We'll be right back. 342 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.839 Welcome to the Reluctant Medium, where we cover the gamut of out their conversations 343 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.440 with an open mind and a curious heart. We want to talk about it 344 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:48.440 all, from psychic phenomenon to beings from other star systems, from energy medicine 345 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.559 to out of body experiences and much more. You'll find a great balance between 346 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:56.559 grounded science, back topics and others that well science hasn't quite caught up to 347 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:02.119 yet. From the explainable to miraculous. We want to know about it. 348 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:07.160 I'm your host, doctor Maria Rothenberger, a psychotherapist by trade and a reluctant 349 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.640 spirit baby communicator. And hey, even though I'm a medium, I'm not 350 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:14.880 buying everything folks are selling. I just have a voracious appetite to know more. 351 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.160 About what I call the world are the weird, and maybe I'll try 352 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.920 a few things on precize. Join us on your favorite podcast platform or watch 353 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:30.799 on YouTube at the Reluctant Medium. We'll see you there. And now back 354 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:40.160 to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome back to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. We're talking to 355 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:44.759 Lauren, Jel and Tani. We're talking about the body and really the three 356 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.480 dimensional personality that we have on this planet, how important it is to be 357 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.759 in tune with it because really we have all the answers inside of us. 358 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.920 So we're constantly going out to new modalities and all these kinds of things, 359 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.119 and those are wonderful as well, but the first deep is to really get 360 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.039 to know yourself and what's inside you, in what you need in your body. 361 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.480 So Lauren, right before we left, we talked about how the fact 362 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.599 that this is good for men and women in alle kind of stuff that we 363 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:15.440 also tease that we're going to find out how now to get better in tune 364 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:19.480 with our bodies. So let's just go ready intune. How can we now 365 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:22.599 that we know the importance of being in tune with the body, how can 366 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.000 we connect with it, I think first and foremost I did talk about I 367 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:33.000 use the word allow a lot, and whether it's like I mentioned my acne 368 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:38.200 example, or whatever emotions coming up for you, is just to allow yourself 369 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.960 to feel. Because if you know you're looking at yourself and you have a 370 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:47.559 face covered in sense, you're there's probably an emotion associated with that coming up 371 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:53.960 right now, working judgment, shame, whatever, embarrassment, And the most 372 00:26:55.000 --> 00:27:00.359 important thing about this is to allow yourself to feel that like there's no bad 373 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.240 emotions. And I mentioned earlier in the show that so many people want to 374 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:08.160 start working with our energy or those chakras and awaken that Kudlini force. But 375 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:14.319 emotions are the easiest way for you to do that. That is your energy, 376 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.720 that is that life force trying to move through you. And the more 377 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.920 that we resist something, or the more that we really try to move something 378 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:27.680 like like really push and like talking about more masculine, the more that it's 379 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:33.000 going to really persist. So if something looks like embarrassment is coming up for 380 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:40.400 you with this acting going along with this example is to just let yourself really 381 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:45.079 feel does what does embarrassment feel like? And allow that feeling to overcome you. 382 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.680 You're not going to die from feeling embarrassed. You'll You'll be okay, 383 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:53.599 I promise you. And to allow that sensation to come through your body. 384 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.799 And sometimes when you start to practice this, you'll start to feel maybe that 385 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:02.720 emotions in your chest, during your gut, your hip, You'll start to 386 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.000 feel. And that's what I love to teach and help people build that awareness 387 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:08.799 in their own way, in their own bodies. Start to feel where that 388 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:15.680 energy is, where that emotion is, and start to open your focus around 389 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:21.079 where that's coming, which means focusing on where that feeling is in your body, 390 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:26.720 and start to think about building this beautiful circle or the sphere around it, 391 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:32.400 opening it up and allowing that energy to dissipate outside of you or maybe 392 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.839 come up. But which I keep talking about, KUNDLINI coming up that beautiful 393 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.880 light channel through your body when I feel an emotion, like I got to 394 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:45.480 say, like I still have the emotions daily. You know. My partner, 395 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.519 God love Him helps me work through this. Even though I teach these 396 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.319 people these things, and it's like he has to remind me when I'm feeling, 397 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.759 you know, whatever's coming up. Maybe I'm mad he didn't do the 398 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.160 dishes, or even though he does the beautiful job of the dishes, but 399 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.880 whatever emotions are a three D thing that's coming up for me, and I 400 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:06.720 just want to keep going, going, going going. I know it's not 401 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.759 about the thing that's coming up. It's about me being present, feeling that 402 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:15.519 emotion, moving it through my body. It's very intuitive once you start to 403 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:21.000 practice this and just allow underneath Okay, yeah, it really wasn't about you 404 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.440 not putting your dishes in the dishwasher. This is what I've been feeling. 405 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.480 Here's the wisdom that's uncovered for me and to be able to move along with 406 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.519 your life, because when we start pushing things down, that's when sometimes the 407 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:37.319 physical manifestations happen, I like diagnoses and things pop up into your life that 408 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.359 you might not really like. But that because you're consistently feeling these emotions that 409 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:48.720 you're resisting or pushing down, you're what you feel in a consistent basis creates 410 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.160 a reality. So when you can allow, it's not going to create more 411 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.759 embarrassment if you just truly feel those emotions in the moment. I think there, 412 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.599 I forget the study, but I think it's like under twenty seconds. 413 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:04.880 If you truly feel one emotion, I'll wow, it's to you know, 414 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:10.359 to move through your body, It'll dissipate and go away. Anything more than 415 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:15.759 that is actually you're you're replicating it. So really being present in your body 416 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:21.240 doesn't take doesn't take long at all. And the second step, and this 417 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:26.359 is really just understanding and approaching life and yourself and this thing cold your body 418 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.240 with love and not judging yourself for having the acne. You're feeling embarrassed or 419 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.240 feeling this rage. Yeah, yeah, burtn around doing this. As you 420 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:41.400 know, I'm here to help you. I'm here to help you. So 421 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:47.759 you're the cause of my hip pain. I'm here to help you to face 422 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:52.000 what that hip pain is actually talking every day. Yeah, So when you're 423 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.640 working with people, it sounds like you really kind of have to help them 424 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.440 learn how to I don't know, pull back a lot of layers. Because 425 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.319 if we go back to the acne example, so you get the acne, 426 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.079 but there's some underlying cause of the acne, but then you have the acne 427 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.480 and then you're embarrassed. So the embarrassment I think would add to the acne. 428 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.640 So you've got like the double whammy going on, Like how how easy 429 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.720 or difficult is it for the people that you work with to start to unravel 430 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.000 all of this? Yeah, and that's why I really work with the emotions 431 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:25.799 first, because the physical stuff right is dense. There's more persistent emotions or 432 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.759 patterns going on. Building the awareness of am I being? Am I in 433 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.880 the present moment or not, you know, one of my feeling and starting 434 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.920 to allow myself to feel that and approach everything in my life and my body 435 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:42.039 with love and acceptance. Because when we can love ourselves, we're never going 436 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:47.440 to judge ourselves or hate ourselves into any change. I'm never going to shame 437 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.680 ourselves into to be able to change long term. M I don't know. 438 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.559 I need to make it Like when you finally go, I can't. I 439 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.119 can't stand myself. I'm not need to change, right, There's there's there's 440 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:07.279 a defining moment when you're like, I'm tired of this ship. I'm like 441 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.920 Gandolf on the bridge. I'm going to none shall pass. You know, 442 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.839 I'm not. I'm not. I'm done. Like I think there's so much 443 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.759 power and I think it's two different things. I totally agree with you. 444 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.480 There's there are two different things where there it comes a part in your moment 445 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.960 in your life when you're like, there's there's something, There's got to be 446 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.400 something better than this. I am tired of this bull crap. Like when 447 00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:36.440 you draw that line in the sand, that decision is so powerful that amplitude 448 00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:40.680 energetically is going to send out ripples into the whole universe and to your own 449 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:46.519 reality that you know you are done with this. But but what are we 450 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.119 going to just still behave and think and act and feel in the same way 451 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.359 that we were within the life that we didn't want. No, we're going 452 00:32:54.440 --> 00:33:00.400 to do something differently because when we become this personality and in the spotting, 453 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.960 we're going to feel and think in the same way. So what I'm saying 454 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.599 is, you know, love yourself. Yet, yeah, you might have 455 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.039 the old part of you still come up that you don't like, that you're 456 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:14.279 trying to change, you're tired of, but don't judge that part like that's 457 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.240 been a part of you for god knows how long. And to allow that 458 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.839 to come up and say, oh, that's just my jealous part coming up, 459 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.319 you know that's a's she helped me so much up to this point she 460 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.720 got me here, like, thank you so much. Not only am I 461 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.839 going to feel you once we start to understand these parts of ourselves like you're 462 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.119 talking about and I'm talking about right now, these characters so to speak, 463 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.839 of our old life that we don't want to really take with us. We 464 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:45.559 want to love them and see them from what they are that they were just 465 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:51.759 this really defense mechanism or the survival mechanism that we developed at some point, 466 00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.440 either this lifetime, past lifetimes. It doesn't matter what matters to be able 467 00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.359 to feel it. And sometimes we realize and I have, I've done this 468 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:06.839 in my own life when I'm trying to change I like to write down emotions 469 00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.960 that I'm feeling every single day, especially when I've really pinpointed what i want 470 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.239 to change my life. One am I feeling day to day? One am 471 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.159 I thinking about these things? And you'll start to see a pattern over a 472 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:20.800 week or two weeks of writing your emotions down. I'm really addicted to certain 473 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:25.400 emotions when it comes to this topic or just my life in general. So 474 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:31.400 really allowing yourself to feel these emotions allows them to move through you just as 475 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.480 much as we want to feel and move through the quote unquote lower emotions, 476 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.000 the same with a quote unquote good or high vibe emotions. We don't want 477 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.719 to hold onto anything, you know, vice script for too long because it's 478 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.480 it's going to go sour, it's going to go bad. So just when 479 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.400 I talk about the self love is even when those achy parts of you quote 480 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.000 unquote the shadow side comes up, just to love it and be like, 481 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.599 oh, I know why you come back up. You know I'm changing something 482 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.760 more now. And of course these old patterns are going to come up because 483 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.679 it's trying to keep me and the old reality is trying to keep me safe. 484 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.880 Thank you so much for trying to do that. But you know what, 485 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:14.159 I got this. I got this. So it's really forgiving yourself for 486 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:21.440 having been that way and understanding that you might have some backslides, but forgive 487 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.320 yourself for what you've done, but face forward with who you want to become. 488 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.760 Yeah. Well, in the pre production notes that you sent us, 489 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.920 you mentioned you dropped a term in there that I went, m I got 490 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.800 to make sure I ask her what this is, and in order so I 491 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.920 don't mess it up, I'm going to bring up my notes. You said 492 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:45.880 that we can become a vessel of creation. I need some clarity into what 493 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:51.400 you mean by that. So this kind of came to me, of course 494 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:57.760 during my own I was at a breastwork retreat during a ceremony, and intuitively 495 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.639 I was just like, all right, fine, bigger part of me, 496 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.519 I'm out of the way still, you know, whatever needs to come through 497 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.360 me in this lifetime right now to give back to the world, Like I 498 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.280 am the vessel creation, I am this vessel like fill me up. So 499 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:21.719 the irony is here. We start to feel these things, allowing things work 500 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.760 with our body, trust our bodies. But in order to become more of 501 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.079 our quote unquote's higher selves in this embodiment, we need to get out of 502 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.880 the way. We need to surrender and allow this define to move through us. 503 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.119 And I know it's kind of easier said than done, and we're kind 504 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.199 of like, oh, okay, this is a little vague here. But 505 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:45.559 the reason why I work so much with the body and allowing getting yourself to 506 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.199 allow and to trust is when you can go deep through the body or whatever 507 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.360 modality works for you, connect to that higher part of you, you not 508 00:36:54.480 --> 00:37:01.320 only can listen to what's coming through, but you also can ask how can 509 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:07.000 I be of service? What do I need to know? Because we consume 510 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.519 so much data, so much, you know, social media, we're just 511 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.519 consuming, consuming, consuming, But are we really listening to us, to 512 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:22.239 that higher power. I start with a body, but the end goal really 513 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.400 is to lead to that divine part of you, that higher being part of 514 00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:30.480 you, so that you feel you have built enough trust in yourself, in 515 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:37.039 your own experience to be able to connect and really listen to that intuition at 516 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.159 a deeper level. Because I truly believe you know, you guys have this 517 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:45.800 beautiful platform, don't only share your hearts and your energy, but to hold 518 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.280 a space for people like myself to share their healing message with the world. 519 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:54.840 And I truly believe our own stories, our bodies specifically, are all here 520 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.599 leading the way. And I keep saying this phrase over and over, but 521 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.320 leading the way to who you're really supposed to be this life nine, to 522 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:07.360 that highest potential, to that part of you, that higher self that wants 523 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:12.079 to come through here. But that all comes through your own healing journey. 524 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.559 And I truly believe we each have our own message, our own modality, 525 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:21.519 our own passion to bring to the world and when we can continue to listen 526 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:25.360 to that and act upon that. I know, I know, I know, 527 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.400 this new evolution of humanity, this new earth everybody is. You might 528 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:36.920 be so negative on where the world is going, but when we can individually 529 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:42.639 start to lead with being that vessel of creation, which is just being more 530 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:47.920 of who we really are and allowing our gifts to unfold in whatever way excites 531 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:53.360 us and whatever way we love to share that with the world, that's when 532 00:38:53.920 --> 00:39:01.360 true change will happen and we'll ripple across consciousness itself, this reality and so 533 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:05.280 much more. So that's what I mean. And feel free to ask more 534 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:09.800 questions, but that's really my higher purpose here. I am fascinated by what 535 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:15.440 you just mentioned because it speaks a lot towards why we do the show. 536 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.800 It's perfect, It's perfection, all right. So then let's move our attention 537 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:25.239 to the Sovereign Sisterhood and the Witchy Wellness podcasts. Right am I saying that? 538 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:29.199 Right? And you are okay because you've got a lot going on, 539 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:35.599 So give us a breakdown on the podcast and then the Sovereign Sisterhood. Yeah, 540 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.280 so, Witchy Wellness Radio. I've had this podcast for over five years 541 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:44.920 now, which just feels crazy to say. And I was actually taking a 542 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:50.559 bath, loving my body being present talking about what I just preached this whole 543 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:55.519 episode, and the phrase your body is not in the way, it's actually 544 00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:00.320 leading the way. Just PLoP right in you know those Mama, that's where 545 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.440 you're like, I didn't think, where did that come from? You know, 546 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:08.639 like just the download happens. And that was really the inspiration to start 547 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.920 the podcast, Which You Wellness Radio, And that's the tagline of the show, 548 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.800 and that's my mission is all the things I talked about today, having 549 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:20.960 beautiful guests on just like you guys do here to share their hearts, share 550 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:25.480 their wisdom because you never know what that one podcast that inspiration that might ignite 551 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.079 you or a love one that could really change your life. And that's that's 552 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.800 why I started Which You Wellness Radio so many years ago, because that that's 553 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.320 your divine intuition, that's your body, that's your higher self speaking through you. 554 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:42.840 Is that spark of intuition that that might inspire Oh maybe that sounds like 555 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.760 me. Maybe maybe I could do something like that or heel this, You 556 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.400 never know which podcast is going to get you. That nugget and that's why 557 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:55.039 I subscribe to sixty five of them, because I'm going to find it one 558 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:59.400 word the other, or it'll find you that when you're ready, the teachers 559 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.960 will come. It will find you. Well. I'm giving you plenty of 560 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:09.400 opportunity to find me beautiful and then and then my beautiful program that I have 561 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.920 is the Sovereign Sisterhood. It is everything I talked about here today and what 562 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:21.360 my mission is I mentioned it a little bit, is making teaching these foundational 563 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:27.400 principles, making them your own. Like it's good to know something, but 564 00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.840 to actually practice it, to be able to teach it and not teach it 565 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:35.159 but live it in your life, and to make it work for you to 566 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.960 become your own master coach like I don't. I don't. I don't want 567 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.480 these people to keep keep asking you, what shouldn't I do? What does 568 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.000 this mean? I want you to learn to listen to your body, to 569 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.400 listen to the intuition, to be able to listen to your high yourself and 570 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.480 become that vessel of creation. So I teach that, and I also teach 571 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:59.239 you how to have these conversations with other people too, in the community, 572 00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:04.480 actually space for another sister or another member to ask you know what's coming up 573 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.119 for you, and to be able to learn to listen to another person, 574 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.239 because what I have found is learning this myself it's one thing, but to 575 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:15.800 be able to practice as in a relationship, it's a whole nother level. 576 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.679 So to be able to start to learn to listen to other people in a 577 00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.159 different way, because you really do learn through the wisdom and experience of other 578 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.159 people and what they're coming through too, not only in your own story, 579 00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.159 but the stories of other people. So that's a big proponent, and that's 580 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:35.480 why we call it sisterhood because it's about building this foundation internally so you can 581 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:39.159 grow it in relationships, whether it's in the sisterhood long term or with other 582 00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.440 people in your life, because you know, we want to be around people, 583 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.360 we want to share our hearts, we want to share our love as 584 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:52.360 soon as we really start to do this deep healing work. Every single person, 585 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:54.880 whether I have them my podcast or I know them in my personal life. 586 00:42:55.320 --> 00:43:00.000 Every time that you overcome something in your life, you want to give 587 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.199 back to the world. Like I mentioned before that vessel creation. When your 588 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.960 heart is so full and overflowing, all you want to do is give and 589 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:15.199 to love and to build those relationships, whether and it's a business or just 590 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.000 in your personal life. So if you guys want to learn more and you 591 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.599 can head on to my website Lauren Chlntani dot com. I'm on Instagram and 592 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.719 on YouTube as well. I would love to hear from you guys. I 593 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.519 also love a good meme and good humor over on Instagram too, So if 594 00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:37.320 you guys like these guys here's humor, will definitely appreciate mine. So I 595 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.039 would love to hear from you guys. And if you don't like our sense 596 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.039 of humor doing, let that stop you because she's got great things too, 597 00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:45.199 right, It's not just that. 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