WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:16.519 Get some facts and come back and Seebee. Get some facts and come back 2 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:20.760 and Seebee. Don't fill out salaries or other things. Get some facts and 3 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:25.120 come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you 4 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.879 need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats 5 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.519 in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my 6 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.439 extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We 7 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:39.039 don't need no meals. We don't need no cats. We need more dogs. 8 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:44.439 Why are not a detain Oh you're not. That day we weren't good. 9 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.880 There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm telling you. 10 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.240 We laid an egg, So I'm not gonna break it down for you. 11 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:54.119 He sucks. He sucked, but he laid an egg. That's all 12 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.119 I have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not going to break 13 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.079 it down for you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. 14 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:03.000 We have to figure it and we went. During the break, I had 15 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:11.120 an opportunity to look at something that was sent out on social media about the 16 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:19.719 Pistons great backcourt in the day, and it was reminiscent of an anniversary where 17 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:25.799 Byron Scott missed Game one of the NBA Finals, so LA went with a 18 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.400 big backcourt, Magic Johnson, Michael Cooper. Johnson was what six' eight, 19 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:38.920 Michael Cooper six' seven, Tony Campbell former Piston sixt' seven Detroit used 20 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:44.519 Joe Dumars in, Isaiah Thomas and Vinnie Johnson carve them up. It is 21 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:52.439 a thing of beauty watching those guys Thomas and Dumars and Johnson dribble into the 22 00:01:52.439 --> 00:02:00.040 front court, pull up and hit mid jumpers. It's phenomenal. God, 23 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:08.560 it was good basketball. Those guys were so fundamentally sound, dribbling, passing, 24 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:14.759 shooting the way they shoot the ball. I don't know how many of 25 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.560 you out there had a chance to watch them growing up, but it's just 26 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:23.719 it's awesome. So check that out if you can, just go back YouTube 27 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:30.319 and do whatever real quick. MLB recently sent this out on x Power Pitcher 28 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:38.840 Rankings or Pitcher Power Rankings Trek Schoubile number one. I don't know if this 29 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:44.319 is like power Pitchers is in these guys with the strikeouts, because I mean, 30 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.159 otherwise it would be Garrett Crochet, he leads the league in strikeouts per 31 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:54.759 nine. Second would be Sonny Gray Saint Louis, then Freddie Peralta, Jack 32 00:02:54.800 --> 00:03:00.759 Flaherty's top five. I mean that's case per nine. I think it can't 33 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:05.639 be ERA. If it's ERA, then you'd have Seth Lugo in there, 34 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:10.039 right, because I think Seth Lugo leads all of baseball and earned run average. 35 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:15.840 But Scoball is number one in pitcher power rankings. Then Ranger Suarez of 36 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.759 Philadelphia, his ERA is one point seven. By the way, he's nine 37 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:24.080 to one on the year. Then his teammate Zach Wheeler ERA of two point 38 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:30.439 two to three strikeouts ten point two batters per nine. Luis Geel is four, 39 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:37.960 Corbyn Burns five. I read that about Corbin mcburns and I think Milwaukee 40 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:42.759 couldn't use that. But Milwaukee's leading the division. Baltimore will take it. 41 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:53.080 Tanner Hawks six, Boston Tyler Glass now La is seventh, Paul Skeens is 42 00:03:53.240 --> 00:04:02.479 eighth. Out Standing rookie from Pittsburgh, Shota Imanaga for the Cubs is nine, 43 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:10.080 and Max Freed for the Braves is ten. Braves, just keep getting 44 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.360 it done, man, even though they lose certain players. Those are your 45 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:17.839 pitcher power rankings courtesy of MLB, and as I mentioned, earlier, Derek 46 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:26.879 Scoubel will pitch Game two of the series against Milwaukee. What's in a nickname? 47 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:32.199 How important is a team nickname? The reason I ask this is because 48 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.639 the NHL will have a new hockey team next year and it'll be in Utah. 49 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:42.839 It's the Arizona Coyotes, but they've moved to Utah. They're trying to 50 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.800 find a nickname for the franchise. They have narrowed it down to six. 51 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:56.439 It's either the Utah Blizzard. Now while you're driving, while you're listening, 52 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:05.240 you're either nodding or shaking your head thumbs up or thumbs down, or you 53 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:12.399 know, kind of nose scruff or nodding you're like, oh, I could 54 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:18.480 see that, or no way right. Utah Blizzard is one name that's a 55 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:24.720 thumbs down for me. Utah Hockey Club, that's a thumbs down. That's 56 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:29.959 soccer stuff, it's not hockey. You Taw mammoth, three strikes, you're 57 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:41.319 out, Utah Outlaws, No Utaw venom, Utah Yetti. What's the logo 58 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:45.199 of a Utah Yetti? This is part of the problem. When you just 59 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:49.759 want fans to vote fans, just seriously, you're gonna have a cooler or 60 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:57.000 a cup on your on your jersey. Let's be real, maybe it's the 61 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:00.199 Blizzard. I don't know, I don't I don't get where you get some 62 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:04.040 of these names, but not a fan of any of them. As I 63 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:10.360 read this yesterday, I thought, boy, we're lucky, lucky to have 64 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:15.560 the nicknames that we have. For example, the Red Wings. You know 65 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:20.720 about the Red Wings' nickname, right? James Norris, the Canadian American businessman. 66 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:26.800 He bought the team in nineteen thirty two and he named it the Winged 67 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:32.160 Wheelers because he used to play for that team. And he chose the Winged 68 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:41.639 wheel as the logo. It was based off a Montreal Amateur Athletic Association logo. 69 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:48.439 He thought that it kind of went along with the auto industry. That's 70 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:53.199 pretty cool. I'm sure you knew that, but in case you didn't, 71 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:59.360 just want to let you know. And of course it's been that way ever 72 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:06.839 since. To pay homage in that regard has a nice historical significance to it, 73 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:15.680 don't you think. Yeah. Tigers baseball team nickname believed to have come 74 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:20.040 from the Detroit Light Guard, a military unit that served Detroit for two hundred 75 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:27.800 years, earned the nickname Tigers during the Civil War first appeared in an article 76 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.360 in the Detroit Free Press back in eighteen ninety five, called them the Struthers 77 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:39.120 Tigers in honor of that light guard, and the name stuck. So when 78 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.839 the Tigers began playing in the Western League back in eighteen ninety six, they 79 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:48.800 were already being called the Tigers. You know. The Lions went from Portsmouth, 80 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:55.319 from the Portsmouth Spartans in nineteen thirty four to Detroit, and they were 81 00:07:55.360 --> 00:08:03.160 renamed the Lions by George A. Richards, the guy who owned it. 82 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.480 He was a radio executive, the guy who owned the Portsmouth Spartans. He 83 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:13.360 chose the name actually to honor Detroit's baseball team, the Tigers. He thought 84 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:20.079 it represented a pride in the city and he wanted the name to reflect the 85 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:26.000 king of the NFL. Like the lion is king of the jungle. This 86 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.399 is going to be King of the NFL. That's why he chose Lions. 87 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.879 But I have the reasoning, and maybe it's just because we're from here and 88 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:39.759 we have used that representation for as long as we've been alive, But it 89 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:46.000 makes sense, right. It's a good association with the city. There's a 90 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.519 reasoning behind it. Reading about Utah and the struggles they're having to figure out 91 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:58.039 what their nickname is going to be made me think, Wow, how fortunate 92 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.799 are we to have a a team that has been here for as long as 93 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.519 these teams have been here and b to have that association with the city. 94 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:13.480 The reasoning behind it, you get the Pistons Fred Zolner moved him from Fort 95 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:18.879 Wayne, the Pistons car industry, winged wheel car industry. Tigers had to 96 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:24.559 do with the story I just told you right regarding the military unit and then 97 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:31.039 the Lion's bouncing off that to a certain extent, pretty neat. Just want 98 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.519 to share that with a ten after the hour do forget Greg Camp. He 99 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.600 joins this bottom of the hour eight thirty five to talk about his new contract 100 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:43.399 and a lot of things, including college coaches in the NBA. We're back 101 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:52.679 with more after this on Axis and Bros in the Den with Dan Dickerson's Hey 102 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.080 Tiger's Fans. 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We'll talk with Greg Campy about that and a whole lot more coming 158 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.039 up, But first let's get to some techs. As we mentioned sports radio 159 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.679 to twenty one thousand. Then who do we got? Yeah? One from 160 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.559 Freddie It says, should the Pistons buy out Money Williams and take a shot 161 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:13.200 at Danny Hurley giving him six years at ninety million? Yeah, I don't 162 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:18.399 know. I'm not sure where you get the six years ninety million. At 163 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.360 least you come with a plan, So I give you credit for that here, 164 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.440 it's not my money first, and foremos not my money. I get 165 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:37.440 all that. I just don't understand why we think throwing more money and years 166 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:46.039 at an unproven guy is going to fix the problem. So people are suggesting, 167 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:52.679 there have been articles written out West that Danny Hurley and the Lakers contract 168 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:58.519 offer could top one hundred million dollars. Personally, I think that's irresponsible. 169 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:07.960 I think it's simply ridiculous. But I suppose that's the way of the world. 170 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:18.840 Monty Williams is under a long term contract here with the Pistons, a 171 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:25.159 guy who has been Coach of the Year, a guy who knows what it 172 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:26.720 takes to win in the NBA. I'm not saying he's the right choice, 173 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:33.360 all right. They lost twenty eight straight games at one point. That's the 174 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:40.879 longest losing the streak in NBA history for crying out loud. However, I'm 175 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:48.679 not a huge believer that you fix the problem by just going out and creating 176 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:56.399 another one. And whether he's the right guy or not, I suppose remains 177 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.080 to be seen. Are you willing to give up on my anti Williams after 178 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:07.119 one year? Again? You signed him to a six year deal worth seventy 179 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.839 eight and a half million dollars. He's done one year of that where their 180 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:18.960 mistakes made you bet and it was early on. By the way, you 181 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:27.079 want to give a guy, so roughly, roughly, Monty Williams is making 182 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:34.880 what seventy eight and a half million dollars six Okay, So he's making thirteen 183 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.640 million a year, is that right? Okay? So thirteen million a year. 184 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:44.680 You're going to have to pay him an additional thirteen million dollars per year 185 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.519 over the next five years. You're going to pay him sixty five million bucks. 186 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.759 Then you're going to bring in a guy for six years and ninety million 187 00:17:55.920 --> 00:18:03.519 who's never done it at this level. NBA Coach of the Year, NBA 188 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.000 guy, a guy in the NBA who got his team to the postseason, 189 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:10.160 couldn't done it, couldn't do it in one year. But you're going to 190 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:14.839 bring in a college guy who's never coached NBA players, and you're gonna give 191 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.519 him that type of commitment. Personally, I would not. It's not my 192 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:25.960 money. I'm not the owner. Now. I'll be truthful here. When 193 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.519 the Pistons were pursuing Monty Williams, while people were getting caught up in Coach 194 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.240 of the Year and what he's done in Phoenix and all this other stuff. 195 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:38.720 Here's what I asked. He said he wanted a break. He said he 196 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:48.160 wanted out for a period of time. Why did he come back? Was 197 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:56.359 it the challenge? Was it the money? Was it the history of the 198 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:03.680 Pistons? What was the reason you had to go and float out the highest 199 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:10.640 contract for a coach in the NBA to get him to come here. That's 200 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:15.640 troubling. The only real I'm not saying this is the only reason, but 201 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:19.720 it sure looks like on the surface, the only reason you get him is 202 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:26.119 because of money. That's not the reason you want. So I would say 203 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.319 no to that. But I would have said no to Matty Williams in the 204 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.759 first place, because they went after him, he said no, then they 205 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:41.680 circle back went after him again with more money than he said yes. Another 206 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:47.559 text Ben what do we got? And says Tiger's History five sixteen and seventeenth 207 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:52.559 nineteen eighty seven, Phil nicro and Steve Carlton, both with three hundred wins 208 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.160 at the time through back to back games, versus Jack Morris and Walt Morrell. 209 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:02.720 I'm guessing that has never happened in baseball. Just a guess, here's 210 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:07.480 a good here's a good little uh nugget if you're talking about Tiger's history. 211 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:15.640 Back in nineteen thirty one, the A's Trunks the Tigers twelve to two in 212 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:19.880 their one day road trip to Detroit, made necessary by the Sunday prohibition of 213 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:29.799 baseball in Philadelphia. Tiger stranded eighteen of twenty base runners that day. Nineteen 214 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:34.119 forty four, Hel Neuhauser he walked nine batters in six innings in the loss 215 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.440 to the White Sox at Comiskey Park. Prince hal, a future Hall of 216 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.759 Famer, averaged nearly four and a half bases on balls per nine innings during 217 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:49.839 the nineteen forty four season, and yet he beat teammate Dizzy Trout for the 218 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:53.559 al MVP. He was twenty nine and eight, had a two point two 219 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:59.599 two ERA, and won the first of his back to back al MVP awards. 220 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:06.359 That year. He walked four and a half batters per nine that's nuts. 221 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.319 Also on this date, in two thousand and four, the Tigers selected 222 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:18.200 Justin Verlander. Then they would turn around three years later and draft Rick Porcello. 223 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:26.519 That's on this date June seventh, Back in those days, right, 224 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.880 Greg Campy's got a really good story. He's been a really good coach for 225 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:41.119 a long time, and he just signed a contract extension deservedly, so he's 226 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:45.079 going to join us and we're going to talk about that, the push toward 227 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.799 the push in the NCAA Tournament a year ago, and we're going to talk 228 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:55.720 a little bit about college coaches and the transition to the NBA, his thoughts 229 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:00.400 on that and more coming up with Greg Campy, the head coach of Oakland 230 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.559 University Basketball, on Exors and Bros. 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Learn how 246 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:47.200 you can get involved at Purplecommunity dot org. Thirty five after the hour welcome 247 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:49.759 out of Friday, I hope you get plans for the weekend and we'll enjoy 248 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:53.160 it as well. Always enjoy the conversation we have with Great campy On, 249 00:23:53.240 --> 00:24:00.519 one of the most accomplished coaches in his division one tenure forty years at Oakland 250 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.799 University. What a ride it has been and he gets a contract extension, 251 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:07.400 and deservedly so. He joins us here on Exus and Bros. Coach, 252 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:12.599 hope you and your family are well. Congratulations you are the longest tenured coach. 253 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.400 You've done it for forty years. Why do you keep doing it? 254 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.480 That's another question, Matt, especially you know, in this day and age 255 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:25.400 with you know, the way things are changing so much, and those of 256 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:32.000 the people in my generation, you know, are moving on to do something 257 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.279 else. And it's funny, is because when I talk to is So, 258 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.480 I think we start every conversation with why we're still doing this, you know, 259 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.440 And the truth of the matter is, Man, I don't know what 260 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.559 else I would do. I'm going. I love it. It's still no 261 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:48.039 matter how it changes, no matter you know you're here, of Doom's day 262 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:52.599 coming and all that kind of stuff. I still get to be around eighteen 263 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.680 or twenty two year old young men, you know, every day and having 264 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:00.640 a part of their lives and being able to help shape their lives. Whether 265 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.359 they're only with me for a year and now or they're with me for four 266 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.759 it's still something that I kind of enjoy and reveling. Yeah, but you 267 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.039 could retire. Are you one of those guys who just can't sit still and 268 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.119 you need to do something? Or is it just because of the intoxication you 269 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:19.519 get from coaching basketball and make it a difference in young people's wives, both 270 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:23.680 on the floor and off it. I like that word intoxicating it because it's 271 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:29.359 probably what it is. Yeah, you know it's it's yeah. I don't 272 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:30.799 know what else I would do, really, man. I play golf. 273 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:34.640 I play a lot of golf, but a lot of that is because it's 274 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.079 like playing hooky. You know. If I get out there and play around 275 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.440 the golf, I enjoy it because I know maybe I shouldn't even be out 276 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:44.960 here. And you know, if I could play every day and not have 277 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.359 to worry about anything, I'm not sure I would enjoy it as much. 278 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:52.440 So, and then you know, there's competition has been in you know, 279 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.839 my whole life has been competition growing up as a kid, as a player, 280 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.200 and then I got into coaching right away, and you know, I'm 281 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.400 a very competitive person, and I think I would really miss that, you 282 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.640 know, I really do. And I'm sure there'll be a day that I 283 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.640 walk in and say, Okay, I've had enough but right now, I 284 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.720 don't see that day anywhere near so Khaki Cousins or the Sharf, because both 285 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:21.880 are fantastic there at your school. Yeah, there are very few golf courses, 286 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:26.160 or very few institutions at college institutions in this country that have two golf 287 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.759 courses, and they are value that have. Yeah, they have one good 288 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.759 one, let alone too. So I'm an old school guy. Though I 289 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:38.200 like Khaki yeah better, you know, I just I think it's a better 290 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:42.119 test of Boffy. There's nothing wrong with either. I mean, they're both 291 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:47.359 top twenty thirty golf courses in the state of Michigan, so it's kind of 292 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.400 cool that we have them on our campus. And yeah, but I like 293 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:56.599 Khaki the best. I asked this the other day of somebody of Jim Leland 294 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.319 when he was on our show, and I said, who's the who's the 295 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:04.240 ideal for them? If you could have any forsome your three other golfers obviously 296 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:10.200 to play with, whether they're alive or dead, and whether they're good golfers 297 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.640 or not, who would be in that forsome for you? Oh wow, 298 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:19.400 jeez. If that would depend on are we playing for money? Are we 299 00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.720 just playing for fun. No, you're playing for the enjoyment of life. 300 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:30.039 Oh okay, because if we were playing for money, i'd want guys with 301 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.680 a lot of money, they were gonna get a lot of right, and 302 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.680 guys who can hit from the whites. Yeah. Yeah, you guys go 303 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.079 all the way to the back and let me come up here. Right. 304 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.680 So well, I mean I'm a I'm a religious guy. So obviously, 305 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:52.160 if Jesus Christ was alive, that would be that would be number one of 306 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.880 all time, you know, to have an opportunity to do that, that 307 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.440 would that would be I think if I could get him a be me and 308 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.279 him, I wouldn't want to share him with anybody else. Oh that's a 309 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:04.640 great answer. Yeah, that's a great answer. And you know what the 310 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.519 only thing is, you know, you wonder if he would give you the 311 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.799 three foot gimmes. You know that's good. You'd probably make you put it 312 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:17.599 in a great camping joining us here on exes and bros. What's the biggest 313 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.319 challenge you faced today as a head coach compared to maybe not when you first 314 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.359 started, but even just twenty years ago. What's the biggest challenge in how 315 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.480 do you deal with it? Well? Well, I think social media is 316 00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:37.400 obviously, you know, far and away, social media has changed the world. 317 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.480 You know, it's just not changed. It's just not changed sports or 318 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.440 athletics or college basketball football. It's changed the world. The amount of disinformation, 319 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:52.000 the amount of people that feel free to say whatever they want to say, 320 00:28:53.519 --> 00:29:00.319 the way that our youth and the way people believe what's on there, 321 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:07.960 and how we our youth really strives for likes and follows, And now why 322 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.680 wouldn't they because you're they're being compensated. The more people they can get to 323 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.680 follow them, the more you know, they can be compensated for that. 324 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.839 There's all these influencers out there, and I think that's the biggest, biggest 325 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.880 challenge. You know, we talk a lot within our team to you know, 326 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.200 keep the outside noise out, you know, that type of stuff, 327 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:32.440 but it's almost impossible to do today. And it's not just college kids. 328 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:33.920 I mean that's what pros do. As soon as they get back to their 329 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.240 locker, they're on their phones to see what's going on and what's being said 330 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.480 about them, which is which is really unfortunate. You win the Horizon League 331 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:47.799 regular season title a year ago and the tournament title a year ago. I've 332 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:52.680 said this for a long time. I don't think mid major programs get the 333 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:59.000 opportunity enough to get enough teams in for you to have the resume you had 334 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.160 and win the regular season and then to have to do it again in the 335 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:11.359 tournament is borderline unfair. What do you think should change for mid major teams 336 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.319 to have I don't even want an equal play necessarily a level playing field, 337 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:22.359 but a better opportunity to showcase more of the thrilling moments we get, like 338 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:30.000 when your team beat Kentucky. Yeah, that's an age old question. And 339 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.640 what I tell people, and I think it surprises them, is our conference 340 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:38.920 tournament is it is the I don't ever want to see that go away, 341 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.480 because at the mid major level, the only other times you're going to cut 342 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.920 NETS down is if you go to the final four, and then again if 343 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.400 you win the championship, you know, you don't cut next we beat Kentucky, 344 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.240 we didn't cut the nets down. If you know, we almost beat 345 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.960 NC State, we lost in the line, you know, and overtime, 346 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.759 and even if we'd won that game, we're going to the sweet sixteen. 347 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:03.759 We don't cut the NETS down. And so every conference tournament ends with, 348 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:08.039 you know, the confetti flying, the team cutting nets down, the you 349 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.920 know, you've accomplished something so hard that I would hate to see that go 350 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:18.319 away and our players lose that because the chances of them cutting the nets down 351 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.559 at the national Championship game aren't probably that good. Yeah, it's hard. 352 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.400 I mean, of the thirty leagues, last year, twenty one of the 353 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.640 thirty champions got beat in their conference tournament. And then, you know, 354 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.359 I say this a lot. I don't think people really understand what I'm saying. 355 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.279 I think they're trying to They look at me as making an excuse or 356 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:42.599 something like that. But you know, Michigan State's got a string of twenty 357 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.880 eight or nine straight years going to the nca Tournament something like that, correct, 358 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.599 yea. And in the last twenty years, since two thousand and five, 359 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:57.640 the only way that Oakland can get to the NCAA Tournament is to win 360 00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:05.039 our conference tournament, right, we just talked about that. So we've won 361 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:08.119 it four times in the last twenty years. The conference tournament. How many 362 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.960 times you think Michigan State is one of the big ten conference tournament knows twenty 363 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:17.440 years? The number four I was going to say three, but yeah, 364 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:24.599 okay, yeah, Michigan has won at three. I think Western Michigan's won 365 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.680 at once, Detroit's won at once. Eastern Michigan I don't think has won 366 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.680 it in the last twenty years. Central Michigan maybe no, I don't think 367 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.000 they have either. So that's how hard it is to win that conference tournament, 368 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.920 and that's how hard it is for mid major to get to the NCAA 369 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.279 tournament. But the Power Fives, obviously, Michigan State's gone twenty eight years 370 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.160 in a row. And I'm not belitterally that it in any way, shape 371 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.680 or form. I'm just I'm just giving honest information out there. So when 372 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:59.279 we have this conversation, we realize how hard it is. But it's also 373 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.880 really hard to win the regular season. Is my point, and it's been 374 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.039 my point for a long time. I'm not taking anything away from Power five 375 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.279 conferences either. And look, I'm a MAC guy, I'm a mid major 376 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:15.640 guy, so there might be some bias. But when you put together and 377 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.000 you're as a coach, you're telling you guys, look, every game matters, 378 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.559 we want to be the one seed, so on and so forth, 379 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:27.680 and then you slip up one game compared to the entire regular season. I 380 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.000 think that is short changing a mid major team. I don't have the answer, 381 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.599 so I don't want to be a hypocrite here. I don't necessarily have 382 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.839 the answer. I just think it's a really tough challenge for these teams, 383 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.599 and I think there has to be a different way of looking at possibly getting 384 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:47.160 them in even if they happen to stub their toe in a mid major tournament 385 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.759 championship game. I noticed this the whole talk about Danny Hurley going from Yukon 386 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:58.119 to possibly the Lakers. He's interviewing with the Lakers today. Eleven coaches over 387 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:02.240 the last thirty years coach can't be have jumped from the collegiate game to the 388 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:09.440 professional level. The winning percentage combined is forty five percent. Two men, 389 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:16.599 Billy Donovan and Brad Stevens are the only ones to have winning records. What 390 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:23.280 do you think is the biggest issue for college coaches to try and adapt to 391 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:29.119 the NBA game. I don't think it's the coaching part of it, man, 392 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:35.119 I really don't. I think some of it is probably you know, 393 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.079 when you're in college at eighteen to twenty two year old and you're trying to 394 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:45.159 turn them from you know, not children but young adults into men. And 395 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.480 when you get to college at the pro level, you've already got men there, 396 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.519 I think. So that's part of it. But the biggest thing is 397 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:59.519 roster construction. And in college, I construct my roster. If I took 398 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:05.119 an NBA, I'm not constructing your roster. They have general managers and presidents 399 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.440 and directors of operations and all these people are making millions of dollars and that's 400 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:14.840 their job to figure out contracts and come up with the roster. So part 401 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:20.239 of college coaching is being obviously having a good roster. So then the second 402 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:25.559 thing on that I think is that most pro coaches take over and that's why 403 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.320 it's open. They take over a bad situation. And it's a lot easier 404 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.920 to fix a bad situation at the college level than it is at the NBA 405 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:40.280 level through the draft or through however you know, trades or however it's being 406 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.880 done at the NBA level. And at college you have say, you know, 407 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.719 now, did John Calipari when he went to the nests that he have 408 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.800 total say, I don't know. I would guess he didn't. But John 409 00:35:52.840 --> 00:36:00.559 Callipark can coach now, and so it's more situational than it is coaching coaching 410 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:05.719 of it. But I do think there is you know, you're not in 411 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:10.119 the college level. Dan Hurley is king of you con right now. All 412 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.079 the roster decisions are made by him. If he says jump, everybody in 413 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.719 that building says how high it's? You know, all the players if they 414 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.960 just want to be there, if they're being paid enough, they just want 415 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.599 to be there. So, uh, you know, it's a whole different 416 00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.719 situation when he goes to the Lakers and he's going to have players that you 417 00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:31.639 know, believe they should have a say and everything you've got, an owner, 418 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.800 you've got, So I think it all has to do with that more 419 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.639 than it has to do with the exors o's of coaching. I agree on 420 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:43.079 how to pursue with it. What do you like most about your situation at 421 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.360 Oakland? Speaking you of king of campus, what do you like most about 422 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:51.079 your situation there? Well, when you've been at a place as long as 423 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.840 I've been, you know everybody right, and now there's turnover and everything, 424 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:58.480 But you know, you walk into a building and the guy that's sweeping the 425 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.159 floor comes over and you have a common versation with him. You know, 426 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.079 he's got a son named so and so, you know you you know, 427 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.760 and it's we've got twenty thousand students. But it's a small town atmosphere. 428 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.679 And you know, I'm a small town guy. I grew up in Defiance, 429 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:15.840 Ohio. That's how my life always was. And so it just really 430 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.800 has fit me. Well. You know, I've got I got a group 431 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.880 of friends that you know, I got, I've got you know, a 432 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.639 golf courses to play, I've got you know, those are the things that 433 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.559 I have a here's a better way to put it. I have a great 434 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.400 quality of life. And in this business, and you've been around this business, 435 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:40.239 you know, the quality of life. For the pressure of college coaching 436 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:45.360 at the level, you know, the highest levels, it really affects your 437 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.960 quality of life. You know, there's so many you know, pitfalls, 438 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.719 there's so many people you have to please, there's so many things that have 439 00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:58.559 to be done that you know, the stress and the pressure of it can 440 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.000 really get to coach and you see them get out and you see a lot 441 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:06.800 of coaches get fired because of that kind of stuff. So I've been lucky, 442 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.360 you know. I I love what I do. I have an unbelievable 443 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:20.000 situation that I live in and I've never you know, there's there's a song 444 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.360 out there. The lyrics was, you know, it's not wanting what you 445 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.920 it's not getting what you want, it's wanting what you've got. And I 446 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.840 think that I've been somebody that's just wanted what I have. You've had chances 447 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.679 to go elsewhere, right plenty over your forty years. Why did you ever 448 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:45.360 learn about it? Because it was never it was never life changing money. 449 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.599 You know, I'm saying, it wasn't Michigan at three million a year, 450 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.480 five million a year or whatever it is, or it makes four million. 451 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.559 You know. It wasn't a Michigan or a Michigan state. It wasn't a 452 00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.719 you know, obviously those are you know in this where we live, those 453 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.719 are the two jobs to the best, you know, ten jobs in the 454 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.559 country. It wasn't those places. It wasn't a Kentucky or you know, 455 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:14.880 a Power five that you can go to the National Championship in. And I 456 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.679 didn't want to chase that. I never wanted to chase it. I didn't 457 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.920 want to take I wasn't willing to take the next step like the Missouri Valley 458 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.840 or you know, I've been offered, you know a handful of jobs like 459 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.159 that over the years, and when I looked at them, it just wasn't 460 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.719 worth the chase. And and you know, probably that's why I've not gotten 461 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.559 you know, the Tennessee that. You know, we go to Tennessee and 462 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.079 we beat them. Yeah, they're at seventh in the country. We beat 463 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:46.039 them, and the coach leaves and uh, you know, I make a 464 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.559 phone call there and they say, yeah, yeah, wow, you're a 465 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:52.440 great coach. But you know, it's just not what we want right now. 466 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.719 So okay, you know that's fine. I'm lucky. I got what 467 00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:00.280 I got. Good perspective. Last thing before I let you go. It's 468 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:05.760 been enjoyable. I always enjoy it with you. How much can you use 469 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:12.920 last year's success toward building quote unquote momentum for next year or this coming season? 470 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:17.519 And afterwards we're hot? Right? I mean that ended, and I've 471 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:24.559 had more speaking engagements, more, you know, interviews, more, taking 472 00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:30.079 more pictures with people come here. I tried at the draft. You know, 473 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.280 of course, there were seven hundred thousand people there and they're all sports, 474 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.679 you know, related people, so it's not like a regular walk to 475 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.440 the park where somebody has no idea about basketball. Right, it took me 476 00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.880 over two hours to walk from I was. I did something at the Caucus 477 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.280 Club on one side of town, and I had to walk to the Detroit 478 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:50.280 Athletic Club, which is about a ten minute walk. It took me over 479 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.800 two hours to get there, just because of the amount of pictures I had 480 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:58.639 to take with people. So we're a hot commodity right now, and we 481 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.840 want to keep that going. We want to build on it. We want 482 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.199 to get to a Sweet sixteen next year. We want to get to a 483 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.920 Final four. That's our goal and that's what we're trying to do. But 484 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:12.159 the reality of it is, you know, every white six foot five shooter 485 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.159 in the country's calling us and want to come here because they think they can 486 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.800 beat Jack Golki and shoot three hundred threes right right. So when they call, 487 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.639 and some of them are really really good, I mean, they're guys 488 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:27.719 that could do what Goki did. But when they find out that we don't 489 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.800 have one hundred and fifty thousand dollars or two hundred thousand what they're asking for 490 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:36.199 to come, that conversation ends. They're more interested in the money than the 491 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.639 opportunity. You know, Jack Golkie, no one knew who he was. 492 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:46.239 When the Kentucky game tipped off. He had four hundred followers on Instagram, 493 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:52.840 when five hours after the Kentucky game he had sixty five thousand followers on Instagram. 494 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.800 He's made a ton of money because what he did. I can't convince 495 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.400 these people to make it that way. They want it up front, they 496 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.639 want I'm the outcome for one hundred good. Well, they've got to consider 497 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.679 you because you're such a great coach. You're a great person. I've always 498 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.360 appreciated our conversations and our friendships. I hope you and I can play golf 499 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.519 sometimes. In the meantime, enjoy your summer. You've earned a coach. 500 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.519 Thanks for the time today. Have a great weekend, man, I appreciate 501 00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.840 it. 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